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The DoubleHeader You've All Been Waiting For! Vern Reviews STARSHIP TROOPERS 3 And ROGUE!!

STARSHIP TROOPERS 3: MARAUDER I've been sort of looking forward to this new STARSHIP TROOPERS, and if you got a problem with that too bad because I've gotten enough "are you gonna review Starship Troopers 3?" emails to know that we can take you. Ed Neumeier takes over as director this time, which means the satirical tone remains since this is the guy who wrote all three STARSHIP TROOPERS as well as ROBOCOP. And, uh, ANACONDAS: THE HUNT FOR THE BLOOD ORCHID. I didn't know that, I just found that out on IMDB. Hmmm. I had not considered watching that one. This changes everything. This could be the big one. If you saw STARSHIP TROOPERS 2: HERO OF THE FEDERATION you may or may not remember that it was pretty different from the first one. They scaled it down for DTV, making it into mostly a one-location siege kind of story and incorporating smaller bugs that implant themselves in people's brains or something. The good part is it was directed by the effects legend Phil Tippett so it ended up having the best effects I've seen in a DTV movie. For part 3 they got somebody else doing the effects (pretty crappy) but the story is much more in line with the first one. It expands on the mythology and themes of the STARSHIP TROOPERS universe in a somewhat charmingly cheap-ass DTV sort of way. A lightly grizzled Casper Van Dien returns as Johnny Rico "the hero of Planet P," now a colonel and still following orders to bravely kill the shit out of swarms of giant alien bugs who threaten freedom and liberty and all that. The war goes on and has escalated a little bit because there is a new piece of bug technology, a sort of bug grenade that's like a huge pill bug that gets tossed into your trench, opens up and shoots out electricity. I like that. Not that much of a threat to the humans though, at least compared to their new Q-Bomb, which can crack a planet in half. Rico reunites with an old girlfriend named Lola (Jolene Blalock - Johnny likes lady pilots with giant lips) and her new boyfriend, General Dix Hauser (Boris Kodjoe). Lola likes Dix alot, she really really likes Dix. She just can't get enough Dix. Rico I think also likes Dix but you know Dix, obviously I don't need to tell you about Dix. So there's always a chance Rico will decide he has had enough of Dix. But remember, this is Colonel Johnny Rico we're talking about, he can handle Dix if he needs to. He can take it. (I think Neumeier is smart enough to know that by naming a character Dix Hauser he has made the movie into an interactive game. You will not be able to restrain yourself from talking to the movie about Dix.) I can't decide if this is good or bad, but Rico has grown slightly as a character. He's still completely loyal to the Federation and its genocidal/pesticidal goals, but he's a little more aware of the grey areas than Dix is. For example when they go to a bar and get hassled by some yahoo farmers Rico tries to make peace with them and acknowledges that their way of life has been ruined by the war and it makes sense for them to be resentful. Most soldiers are not this enlightened, so they all applaud the televised hangings of war protesters on the TV and it causes tensions. I guess sports bars are pretty different in the future. Rico ends up thinking for himself a little too much and almost gets executed, which sort of betrays the straightfaced sarcasm of Verhoeven but does make him a slightly more sympathetic hero. Don't worry, he doesn't turn against the Federation. He ends up leading the charge to clean up a complicated mess involving betrayal, religion, secret conspiracies, a crash landing, and of course a bug that looks suspiciously vaginal. And in fact (SPOILER) one character enters bodily into the giant vagina. Sadly, it's not Dix that enters into the vagina bug. The bug doesn't get any Dix. For what it's worth though there is a little more casual co-ed nudity, and at the very end Johnny does get to wear a robot suit like you guys have been whining about since 1997. I am also prepared to say that I think Casper Van Dien does a pretty good job. It's good to see him back, I think he's kind of cool in it. In my opinion he is not Marlon Brando or Laurence Olivier however he does know how to play a gung ho character like this who when asked by his executioner for his last words asks "Will you get on with it?" I think part of what makes the original STARSHIP TROOPERS so fun is that it's hard to believe they actually got to make that movie. It's so epic and obviously expensive and glamourizes these intentionally vapid characters blindly following a war-hungry government. DTV sequels obviously lose that because they don't seem as subversive and of course they don't have as many toys to play with. But if you can get past that and you enjoy this world then there is goofy fun to be had. There's alot more of the Federal Network propaganda, the highlight being the character of Sky Marshall Anoke (Stephen Hogan), a high ranking military official, psychic and pop star beloved for his patriotic anthem "A Good Day To Die." It's a good song, so perfectly clueless and insidious it should get some kind of DTV Oscar. You get to hear it again on the end credits (too bad they didn't redo it as a radio version with Bebe and Cece Winans or somebody). There were a few bits where I thought the satire got obvious by being too specific - characters use real lines from the Bush years such as "People need to watch what they say." On the other hand there are times when it's a little unclear what exactly they're trying to say, like there's a whole thread about religion being outlawed and frowned upon, but there are hardcore Christians within the ranks and then there's a conflict between Christian God and Bug God... I'm not sure what they're getting at but I guess I kind of like that. I'm sure it leaves me with more to mull over than the recent DTV sequels to LOST BOYS or WARGAMES would. Would you like to know more? The DTV includes a making of, commentary, exte-- Wait, you said no? You don't want to know more? Ah fuck. Okay, well there's another movie coming to DVD this week called ROGUE. It was midnight meat trained onto a mere 10 screens in the US so to us it might as well be DTV. The cover just shows a giant bloody crocodile mouth along with two other "don't even consider watching this crap" signs: the Dimension Extreme logo and a giant "UNRATED" stamped under the title WITH BLOOD DRIPPING! I mean, can you even imagine how NOT rated this fucker is, there is BLOOD DRIPPING OFF OF THE DESCRIPTION OF THE RATING! WHICH IN THIS CASE IS NOT A RATING AT ALL BUT IN FACT THE LACK OF A RATING! WITH BLOOD! HOLY FUCK! What you have here is one of those covers designed to ward off the people who would enjoy the movie and attract the people who would not. This could definitely be R-rated, it's hardly a gorefest at all, it's not "extreme," and it's too bad the Weinsteins didn't let someone with taste and competence of some kind buy it. If those pricks had taken a 90 minute break from ruining everything they would've seen that it's not some shitty CGI bloodfest, it's actually a very well-made Australian suspense thriller from Greg Mclean, director of WOLF CREEK. Definitely not something they would be interested in. I know WOLF CREEK is a divisive movie. To me it's one of the better horror movies of recent years despite the anticlimactic ending, to most critics it's the most shocking and amoral filth that has ever been put on film, to some of my buddies it's just not very good. But even zero-stars Roger Ebert admitted it was well directed so hey, how 'bout if this guy does a movie about a big crocodile instead of a murderer? Will that appease you guys? Or do you think it will give crocodiles ideas? I don't know about you but when I think "giant crocodile movie" I think crappy photography of some ugly swamp location, some bad actors, and way too many shots of a really bad CGI croc. This is the opposite. Believe it or not I think some people would enjoy it just for the photography and scenery. This has got to be the best use of HD in a horror movie to date because it looks like Attenborough's PLANET EARTH series. The story follows a tour boat down a river in the northern territory of Australia, and they work in all this amazing footage of animals, insects and incredible natural landscapes. Instead of trying to make everything fast and noisy like so many youths do, McClean has an old school cinematic feel. I was hooked before anything even happened, just from the dialogue-free opening minutes of star Michael Vartan (21st century Luke Perry) getting out of a bus in the middle of nowhere, smoking a cigarette and walking into a little tavern with gory croc attack newspaper clippings on the wall. This guy is a travel writer, but not an adventurer. A professional tourist. This has some of the same themes as WOLF CREEK: tension between locals and tourists, and the natural beauty and spookiness of Australia. Vartan goes on this tour boat, and just as they're about to turn back and head home somebody spots a flare. They go further down the river than they should to check it out and get attacked and stranded by this giant crocodile. Actually I should say large crocodile, because this one is 7 meters long and Mclean informs us on the extras that there is a real one somewhere that's 7.5 meters. They use the metric system in Australia, by the way, I don't know how many feet that is but it's alot in my opinion. The croc is kind of like JAWS, he is mostly a menacing unseen presence. Usually when he eats somebody (which is surprisingly often) it happens so quick you barely see it. Later you do get a good look at him and there's enough animatronics and restrained enough animation that it looks pretty real. They make him move like a real animal, this is not like those speed fiend CGI gators in ERASER. You know, this could've easily been retooled into DISNEY'S THE JUNGLE CRUISE. It looks like the same boat and everything. But then they would've had to have Eddie Murphy or somebody as the captain instead of the lovely Radha Mitchell. Mclean gets some great suspense out of the different escape plans they come up with. There were times that the sudden devouring of characters off camera without much mourning started to stretch the realism, and James Cameron's homie Sam Worthington's instant flip from asshole to hero seemed a little drastic. But every time I thought it might be losing its steam suddenly something would happen that would make me say "Oh shit!" It's a very tense movie. And you know it's not just that it's an effective thriller, it also has these little touches here and there that you just don't expect in a large to giant crocodile picture. Like there's this character Russell, played by an unrecognizable John Jarrat (the killer from WOLF CREEK, now meek and wearing a fake belly). When he gets on the boat he has two tickets, but he's by himself. He doesn't really explain it and you wonder what that's all about. He's very quiet. Later, when they're all enjoying the beauty of nature and shit and he thinks nobody's looking he takes out a small urn and pours some ashes over the side. Clearly his loss is an important part of where he's coming from as a character, but they never have him talk about it directly, and the little girl on the boat is the only one who even finds out about it. What I'm trying to say is this is pretty different from a BOA VS. PYTHON type of movie, in my opinion. Mclean is 2 for 2 if you ask me. I hope he makes another one soon, but unfortunately his brilliant cinematographer Wil Gibson died last year. That might be what's delaying him. Anyway, good week for DTV. If you have to pick one I definitely vote for ROGUE, which is legitimately good as opposed to STARSHIP TROOPERS 3's enjoyable goofiness. But you know what man? Don't be a Dix about it. Just rent both of them. --Vern

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  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I am the only human being on the planet....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...excited for Starship Troopers 3.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    The first Starship Troopers is one of my guilty pleasures

    by Kneprock

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    They showed the ST3 "trailer" during the pre-trailers...

    by MCVamp

    At the movie theater. I was struck by how it almost looked like a parody of the first movie, which is quite a feat. Vern, I probably got more entertainment out of your reviews than either of these movies, so thanks for that, I guess...I'll be skipping ST3 and maybe catch the other one on Cinemax2 or something.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    There was a Starship Troopers TWO?

    by Squashua

    I'll admit, I knew of it. I'm just asking what others will inevitably ask.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers 3...

    by Holeman

    is one of the worst fucking pieces of shit I've ever seen in my life. If this movie was a person, your dog's asshole would be bleeding when it left your home. That's how bad it is.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I Still Can't Get Past...

    by Rogue Planet

    ...a bit I saw on HowItShouldHaveEnded.com where they parodied the original film briefly in a mention that the best way to fight giant alien bugs is with an army of "soap opera stars." Sums it up nicely, dontchathink. However, that said, I'm with you...I think the original film was eager, earnest, doofy fun - an almost subsersively obvious parody of the old mid-20th-Century propaganda movies and war films. Of course, they had better effects and were overall more believable, but the dialogue certainly hadn't improved any. Still, it worked for what it was. Sequels? Not looking forward to them. I never saw the second film, but the third's trailer was everywhere when I went to see Dark Knight. Casper Van Dien has sort of become like McG - thy very name is a punchline. Deserved or undeserved, the only movie I ever saw him turn in a decent performance in was Sleepy Hollow. Otherwise, he's just pretty, blond, and tall, and he can remember dialogue. That's...about it. Probably a nice guy otherwise, but I'm not going to pay money to see a film just because he's in it. (Though, as I said, the first Troopers movie was okay.) I probably shouldn't bash on Van Dien so much, because he's probably an okay sort, but...like McG...it's so easy to do. Of course, I relented on McG after his Terminator plea, so maybe I should lighten up on Casper. He seems like such a friendly soap opera star, after all.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Uno

    by Bricktops hammer

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Finally!

    by kungfuhustler84

    Thanks Vern. I'll check them out as soon as I can. Great reviews.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I'm looking forward to this

    by Hikaru Ichijo

    and I had no problem with part two. A bad sequel beats the best reimagining any day.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Vern, can't read all that right now, but...

    by Shermdawg

    ...is there a shower scene and does Miss Blalock show da goods?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    After Starship Troopers sank ant the B.O.-

    by Playkins

    It was fairly obvious it would never get a good sequel. I actually enjoyed the forst one. It was cheesy, guilty fun that made fun of it's audience. The CG show was a lot closer to the Heinlein novel, though.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    I dont get why Starship 1 has to be a "GUILTY PLEASURE"

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What a way to pussy foot around a bad ass action film. The CG and action destroy nearly any action film of today. Its got a bad ass rousing original score, and smokin' hot chicks blasting giant fucking bugs. Grow some fuckin' balls and hold that classic up high and proud. <P>Fuck.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    So uh...Jolene Blalock is NOT naked?

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Too bad. Pass.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    DGDB

    by Mattyboy122

    I don't get why the first flick is a guilty pleasure, either. It's satire, baby! Plus it's got some awesome action, to boot, some T & A (like all Verhoeven) and, you're right, a kick-ass score.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:34 p.m. CST

    STARSHIP TROOPERS 4: THE RISE OF DIX

    by Mullah Omar

    This is crying out for prequel treatment.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is sheer genius. You get kick-ass carnage, titties, space battles, gore and not least of all, razor-sharp satire. How often can you say you've seen a movie that can combine all those things to the point where you actually are having your cake and eating it too? <p> No guilt there at all. I fucking LOVE Starship Troopers and for every single one of the reasons I just mentioned.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Mattyboy122 and DocPazuzu = REAL MEN WITH GIANT PACKAGES

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Vern i'm surprised you didn't mention the JFK Jr reference

    by Holodigm

    i liked the movie about the same as you did, but i thought the shot at the end mimicking junior was near brilliance. anyway. for people who really liked the satire of the first one, Marauder is worth a look. at the very least, it's nowhere near as bad as part 2.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Wolf Creek was solid, Rogue looks good

    by Derek Wildstarr

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    You rock Vern

    by theguyfromfresno

    Know what I'm saying? Love, Dix

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    The funniest thing...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...about ST is that it seems that the actors themselves don't realize that they're being the butt of the joke. If you've watched the extras on the DVD and seen how wooden Van Dien and Richards are, and remember how earnest and serious Van Dien was during the promotion of the film, it's even funnier. These days he pretends that he knew all along what was going on, but I don't believe him for an instant. If there were any actors in on the joke, it was Clancy Brown and Michael Ironside.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    I agree with BrowncoatJedi...

    by LabattsBleu

    Only the appearance of Jolene's twins could have made this 'must see'...

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Mullah:

    by theguyfromfresno

    "Starship Troopers 4: Dix Rising" would be better.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Vern made the best quote ever...

    by Heckles

    (Regarding Casper Van Dien) "In my opinion he is not Marlon Brando or Laurence Olivier". You f'n sure their, buddy? I mean between acting ability, body of work, popularity, how can you truly tell the difference? Heh. Man, that cracked me up. Starship Trooper 3 could be a 6-panel cartoon on the back of a damn Coca Puffs box. This review was probably longer than the plot outline. Too funny.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Jolene Blalock..too hot to be taken seriously.

    by conspiracy

    It's true..you can't look like that girl and have a career as an A-list actress..even if she had the acting chops. Plus by her own admission she's a bit of a scifi geek...ok..I must go masturbate now.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Neil Patrick Harris

    by Anakin Whoopass

    There's some dialog about Starship Troopers between Rob Corddry's character and Neil Patrick Harris's "Neil Patrick Harris" in the latest Harold & Kumar which is worth a chuckle. Apparently the DTV ST's can only afford one original cast member at a time.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers 3 was pretty cool

    by photoboy

    I think the main failure was the lack of Jolene Blalock nudity (and the blonde religious chick who was with her). A bit like the first Starship Troopers where we should have had some Denise Richards nudity.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Rogue was a great monster flick

    by bongo123

    nuff said

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Will Gibson died!?!?

    by Joey17

    Fuck! Im australian and I didnt even know. Just lost a potentially brilliant cine.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    All Dix stand at attention!

    by sott68

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    nice review

    by chipps

    Christian God wins! Bug god loses! Ha take that bug god.<p>oh yeah 21 feet

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I watched Starship Troopers 2 a while back...

    by Alonzo Mosely

    and the only thing, I mean the only thing, I remember about it is that the chick from Nip/Tuck was naked in it. A lot. The 'A Lot' is both accurate and a postmodern shout out to Vern.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers great action film?

    by bottombrick

    ST is a "guilty pleasure" cause its a joke, Doogie Hauser in SS getup and soap opera actors in war propaganda mode. As far as action is concerned Verhoeven had just came off Total Recall and Robocop, troopers is definitely more Showgirls era Verhoeven. In fact, the switch from pratical effects with digital backing it up to the mostly digital crap on display here is probably the best indication of why great action movies died.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    It's Cocoa Puffs

    by Heckles

    I spell funny.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD, Mysterious Yobo:

    by Playkins

    Guilty pleasure because by all rights and examination it's a really silly movie that isn't particularly profound or well-done.<P> Don't act like an elitist because you think you "get it" more than someone else.<P> Yes, I get it. The joke is on the audience. We're cheering for Nazis. I "got it" when it was made obvious ten minutes into the film. I got it more when I read the book. 10 years before the movie came out.<P> Doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't bring this movie up during a thoughtful film discussion. It's kitsch. It's low-level satire. It's also fun.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Some good shit on the Dimension Extreme label

    by Cannabis Holocaust

    Diary of the Dead, Teeth, Inside, Black Sheep, etc. Hey I said "good", not "great".

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    You sound oddly resentful.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    bottombrick=

    by DocPazuzu

    fail.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST

    ST2 was honestly really quite

    by Teddy Artery

    ...bad.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    oh go fuck yourself Playkins

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    If anyone is sounding like an elitist twat, it is you. By all rights and examinations it is an extremely well made action film. There is a deeper meaning there, sure-- but I am stating my love for this film for what it is on the surface-- FUN. <P> I'm sorry you wouldn't dare bring this up during a thoughtful film discussion. And I am very sorry you sound like Memories of Murder's gay brother. <p> Now fuck off and die sir. Goodnight.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Casper Van Dien

    by fiester

    I'm always baffled how certain people go the D-list, Sci-Fi MOW route while other actors go on to get regular work of big budget flicks despite being terrible. In no way is Shia LeBouf any better or more talented an actor than Casper Van Dien--and Casper Van Dien sucks ass! I don't get it.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    theguyfromfresno

    by Mullah Omar

    I concede - that is an even better title.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST

    casper van dien > chuck norris

    by chipps

    still haven't seen rogue. wanna. I think there should be a movie about dingos. Yeah. A seventh day adventists church group goes for a holiday on frasier island then suddenly the babies start to go missing. Well, that's it. Hell for me.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Rogue

    by macheesmo3

    was thwarted by that Orlando Jones Crocodile movie .( title escapes me ) Primeval? It seems like Dimension lost it's balls when the first one came out and did shite bidness so they put it out to pasture until dvd time .. Shame really , but what do you expect from those two clowns .

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Was wondering about Rogue, had heard good things

    by Stormwatcher

    This cements a rental. Do wish they'd do a proper StarShip Troopers using stuff left out from the book. True on the bounce battle suits and Skinnies.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    The thing about Wolf Creek

    by SirFlibble

    it was based on a real life event. For us Australians who were hammered by the media with this story for months, it was a lot more scary as it wasn't as fictional to us. Many of us have been in the outback and know how empty it is so for something like that to happen if one of the scariest things.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Wasn't the joke on Heinlein?

    by SpencerTrilby

    I remember reading the book and thought it was surprisingly un-ironic. It read like a right-wing sci-fi epic (not that there's anything inherently wrong with that) but I always thought the movie was more a (good) parody of the book than an adaptation per se. Maybe I was too young to get the more subtle satire on written form, IDK... But even the "dedicated to" at the beginning smelled gung ho if memory serves.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:22 p.m. CST

    joanne lees did it!

    by chipps

    not really, i can't back that up at all<p> yeah, the thing about wolf creek (which i'm huge on but it was ok) is that in oz there really are these little communities, many of them dieing and they are like traveling into a different world. Most of them are really great salt of the earth types but it is a bit like texas chainsaw massacre or whatever, you get off the main road and you could be anywhere. The difference is that the desolate parts of oz are seriously big. Oz is the size of the us, but has like 5 cities, all around the edge of it. Imagine driving from the east coast to the west coast and hardly seeing a single person the whole time. australia is like that

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Casper Van Dein

    by liljuniorbrown

    You have to admit,the dude will just go there won't he? Got a movie that needs a lead and Dolph Lundgren is avoiding it like herpes? Then call the Van Dein. Come to think of it,he needs to play Dolphs son in a movie, he looks like the guy alot. We need a kick ass sci fi version of Inglorius Bastards starring Micheal Pare,Casper Van Dein,Brad Johnson, Sean Micheal Flaherty....who am i leaving out?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    needs more oleg!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD, DocPazuzu:

    by Playkins

    DICKBLOOD:<P> Lick me. Lick me raw. Doc:<P> I am "oddly resentful" because Verhoven butchered my favorite book of all time. What could have been an amazing sci-fi drama turned into an epic-budget B-movie.<P> I'm still holding out hope that we'll see a miniseries of the book done right. Which will never happen, unfortunately.<P> Yeah, Verhoven: "Kill 'Em All". "We'll Keep Fighting"... and all that bullshit. Blahblahblah.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Oh, and DICKBLOOD:

    by Playkins

    You're just wrong. It's not even my opinion. Just so wrong, about everything.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:01 p.m. CST

    CHECK THIS OUT

    by landster

    Hey guys not hearing to much on this.. http://tinyurl.com/55zl54

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    i dont understand guilty pleasures

    by Bouncy X

    if you liked it, why do you have to feel guilty about it? who cares if you're one of a few or possibly literally the only person who likes the movie or show or music or artist or whatever...if you like it then you do. there's nothing to feel guilty about.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    "The only good bug is a dead bug"

    by Liquid Meddle

    So um.. Can we let this series rest in piece now? I loved the first movie and I wish I could erase my memories of the second one.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Judge Dredd is one of my guilty pleasures.

    by Liquid Meddle

    I'm ready to die.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Rogue is terrific

    by BauerJackBauer

    It figures that this movie barely got released. It's too good for most ignorant cocksuckers.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:29 p.m. CST

    vern resorts to 'dix' jokes

    by BurgerKing

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 9:24 p.m. CST

    ST and rogue

    by Dodgy

    I went with my mates to see ST at the flicks and I laughed my head off while they sat silent. They really didn't get it. Bizarre. The thing that made me laugh was the gung ho idiots got their butts kicked twice during the movie, and right at the end they say they're going to kick butt. And then the movie stops. And I couldn't help thinking they got their butts handed to them again. Anyway, caught Rogue too, and it was a very well done movie. It took you by surprise, and the <SPOILER> Character flip Vern mentions worked for me, as the guy was a jerk when there was no danger, but sobered up when there was, making him a lot more human than you're normal horror jerk </spoiler>.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    eggsalad

    by chipps

    very strange person

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    I fucking love Starship Troopers...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Wish I could unwatch ST2 tho'.<p>Thank god I will never be in a "thoughtful film discussion" with Playkins. What a joy-draining twat.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Why do farts smell worse in the shower?

    by TheBloop

    At least they do to me. Why is that?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I DON'T REMEMBER TITTIES IN ST 1

    by BringingSexyBack

    Were they Denise's?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST

    I NEVER GOT HOW THOSE BUGS COULD SPIT PLASMA

    by BringingSexyBack

    all the way to Earth. Was that scientifically explained in the book?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST

    You know what sucks about the first Starship Troopers?

    by Jackie Boy

    Nothing.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST

    the only thing that ST 1 lacked

    by Xiphos_2

    Was the Battle armour and the individual drop craft. Other then that ST 1 was a fun movie.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    "and Dolph Lundgren is avoiding it like herpes"

    by the milf lover

    hahaha funniest quote of the day!!

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    XIPHOS!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Hey there!

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Xiphos_2

    Hello

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    I loved the first starship troopers loved it

    by skiff

    I saw it in the theatre and I bought every version on dvd. I even bought the second one on dvd though I could only bring myself to watch it twice. I have seen the 3 one online even though it was not as good as the first one I will still buy it on bluray.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Vern wtf?

    by Prossor

    didnt you know kill switch came out? or did you review that sometime ago? anyway ruslan is our last hope for the ponytailed one's theatrical revival.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see...

    by codymr

    A more faithful version put on film. Reboot the series and do a Batman Begins/Dark Knight on the material. Loved Heinlein's original story... It was WAY ahead of it's time.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    first Starship Troopers had titties

    by Rupee88

    that coed shower scene was hot and the only thing I really remember about that movie.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Billyeveryteen:

    by Playkins

    I'm quite glad I won't confab with you, either.<P> I'm not a wrestling fan and I don't eat fried food, so we'd probably have nothing in common.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Gilkuliehe

    No, they weren't. They were Dina Meyer's, I believe. Oh and some ass in the co ed shower. The fact that they weren't Denisse's suck big Dix. <p> Oh and Australian guy, I thought the "based on real events" thing in Wolf Creek was kind of cheating, wasn't it? I mean, the killer wasn't caught or anything, it was just "People have gone missing in Australia" = "Based on a true story". Yes? No? Anyway, I remember Vern bitching about this.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    "Midnight Meat Trained" is now officially part of the film indus

    by Bob of the Shire

    And I'll rent Rogue on your reccomendation.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:54 p.m. CST

    I JUST FIGURED IT OUT:

    by Playkins

    Probably half the people praising Starship Troopers as a masterpiece were too young to see it the first time around. I READ Starship Troopers when I was 12- probably about the age most of you were when the movie came out. Jeezus, it was 11 years ago, wasn't it. Damn, I'm an old fucker. No wonder people are accusing me of being pompous.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    "my favorite book of all time"

    by Billyeveryteen

    Good lord, READ MORE.<p>You pretentious douche.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers and Point Break!!

    by Redfive!

    No better guilty pleasures on this plant then those 2 flicks.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by _SnakePlissken_

    The movie stole different things from several events.. there has been many killers from the outback, something about the isolation sends alot of people nuts, and there was The Hitchhiker killer Ivan Milat ( Who use to do head on a stick btw)

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST

    ST was Shit. Period.

    by victor82

    Verhoeven decided to satirize Heinlein. Needed an actor who was tired of waiting tables on Robinson Street: Van Dien. Satirizing Troopers as Nazi fare was too easy, so Verhoeven went ahead and did it.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Victor82 has poor taste. Period.

    by Gilkuliehe

    Give 3 a shot, man. Maybe you'll enjoy Dix.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Did Ice Cube come back for the Anaconda Sequel?

    by The Eskimo

    I'm pretty sure Voight and J-Lo did not?

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Oh, and enough with the giant Croc movies...

    by The Eskimo

    ...for Christ's sake! I can think of four off the top of my head, all bombs! (PS- Props to whoever can think of a fifth w/out Googling it!)

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Gonna argue some more about Starship Troopers

    by bottombrick

    So the term "guilty pleasure" should never be used in this context; its faggoty. The distinction is this is a fun movie that is campy and delivers the goods in a few places and is being called a Great Action Movie, and that is bullshit. If you can honestly say to me with a straight face that Starship Troopers is in league with Total Recall or Robocop, then you are Satan/a moron. Fuck its not even in the same galaxy as Point Break, which I just heard it lumped in with. Aside from a couple of pieces of awesome delivered by Richter and career sergeant Zim, the soap opera action sets are Showgirls in space. I'll concede the nuclear slam dunk and the brain bug as being pretty cool, but still a film geek with taste wouldn't have this in his top 50 / 100, or even in the top 5 Verhoeven movies.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Jolene Blalock has become DVD Angelina Jolie

    by thevision

    Jolene has always reminded me of Angelina- same facial structure, same lips; check IMDB and they were born in 1975. I agree with the poster who wrote how some actors are stuck doing DVD and those Saturday afternoon Sci-Fi channel flicks while others-with similar or less appeal-go on to the A-List...different paths chosen and Jolene would be on the cover of People Magazine with Brad & babies and Angelina reuniting with Elias Koteas in CYBORG 3! I've always thought Jolene was underrated and was the best thing in that piece of shit SLOW BURN. If Nolan makes Batman 3 with Catwoman and can't get Angelina to do it-like LA Times suggested- I think Jolene would be great- check out the mask scene in SLOW BURN.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    o.k

    by chipps

    i didn't google so the names i'm not great with, there is that old aussie one in the doco 'not quite hollywood' lake placid, rogue, blackwater, there is james bond movie where he runs across the crocs, and tobe hoopers follow up to massacre with the gators (of course in comedy there is three croc dundee movies and steve irwin's movie.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Billyeveryteen:

    by Playkins

    And exactly what's pretentious about having a favorite book? Did you somehow interpret that as the only book I've read? You "fucking love" Starship Troopers. Does that mean you haven't seen any other movies?<P> I guess the fact that my favorite book isn't "Harry Potter" or "Da Vinci Code" offended your high-brow taste.<P> You want to compare reading lists you little twat? Go right ahead

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Hey Vern, take a rest.

    by otm shank

    You must be tired from running that Dix joke around the track eight times. Great review as always.

  • ...Satan/A moron or whatever. TR was a clever, face paced action movie with good plot twists and an overall great story. Unfortunately, like many great 80s/90s movies, it is dated and doesn't hold up. Robocop on the other hand, (if all of you poeple so obsessed with this shit movie)would go back and watch it again, is nothing more than an R rated flick marketed to the 80's tweener crowd who got off on grotiouitesque (sp?) violence and hearing the F-bomp dropped a few hundred times. It was a shit movie with shit acting and even shittier direction. This is why the RC sequel will bomb and the TR sequel will never be made (cause they can't!) Oh, and just take the title for example: "ROBO" Cop...I mean, it's lame. Do they even really make robots anymore. I thought Brent Spiner raised the bar on the whole robot-hero idea with STNG.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    all this is cracking me up

    by Playkins

    Everyone is commanding respect for a film that they're calling a "fun action movie that delivers the goods". This sucker was almost universally slammed when it came out, ESPECIALLY on AICN. You guys are glorifying an overbudget, underperforming chocolate-covered turd. Don't pretend "Starship Troopers" is some kind of masterpiece.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Danny Glover and his Dick Blood...

    by Harold-Sherbort

    My god is Judd Apatow in love with you. He brought you up on CONAN tonight!!! Between that and the comic con thing, fuck, I think he might have some man love for ya!!!

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    "Doesn't hold up"

    by bottombrick

    Doesn't hold up to what? the crappy cg action shitfests they make now? are you smoking crack? Total Recall will always be one of the greatest action movies of all time. If I can't convince you of that than the human race has failed you.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST

    He probably IS Apatow.

    by palimpsest

    Fess up Judd...

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    bottombrick...

    by The Eskimo

    ...let me clarify: TR is one of my fav sci-fi flicks. When I say it doesn't "hold up", I only mean that it isn't as polished as say "I, Robot" or even the god-awful "Star Wars" prequels. Not to say that makes it less of a movie...just that it is obviously dated (In fact, it is the "grittines" a la Blade Runner and original Terminator that makes it a classic). But you have to admit there are some cringe-worth Ah-nold one-liners in TR.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Robo-cop on the other hand...

    by The Eskimo

    ...is shit.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Magic hat!

    by Silent Mark

    If you've seen it, did any of you notice Lola's magic hat during the cafe scene, before and during the farmer confrontation? It's hard to miss, it seems to have a mind of it's own, and the ability to teleport at will.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    THAT was Jolene Blalock???

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Man! I didn't even recognize her! I could've sworn her character was Black in this new SST film...<p>Now I'm gonna have to watch it over again and appreciate her sexiness on a whole 'nother level. I didn't even know what she looked like without her Vulcan makeup on.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Croc Gotta Eat

    by cineninja

    Rogue rocked...great pic and youre right...its a much better film then what you would think....Troopers 3 is pretty much what I expected.

  • Croc Crocodile Crocodile 2Lake Placid Lake Placid 2 Primeval The Big Alligator River Blood Surf Eaten Alive Alligator Alligator 2 Killer Crocodile 1 Killer Crocodile 2 And now Rogue…

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    copy and pasting sux...

    by The Eskimo

    ...sorry all, but I had to get to the bottom of this

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Starship Troopers

    by kwisatzhaderach

    All hail Paul Verhoeven and the late, great Basil Poledouris!

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    I was 30 when ST came out and had by then read Heinlein's book maybe three times. <p> In my experience, the people most often offended by Verhoeven's treatment of the book are the ones who didn't get Heinlein's much more sly critique of society and had taken the book to be an endorsement of their own far-right political thoughts. The second group understood Heinlein's critique and felt that Verhoeven's take was much more ham-fisted. The third and largest group are the asshats who didn't even understand Verhoeven's satire. My favorite group, however, is the bunch who started out as members of group 3 and, like Van Dien, are pretending that the joke wasn't on them after the fact.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Jolene & Casper in San Diego Comic-Con

    by thevision

    The SST 3 presentation was in Ballroom 20 I think, but I missed it, was in Hall H at the Underworld presentation. SST 3 had a booth and I thought Jolene would be there signing autographs, nope only Casper- he reminds me of Tom Brady. Too bad I missed Jolene, guys who were there said she looks fantastic.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Danny Glovers DickBlood!

    by andrew coleman

    You were mentioned by Judd Apatow on Conan tonight! Just wanted to let you know!

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:02 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu: We'll, if you're implying...

    by Playkins

    ...that I fit into any of your "groups", you're dead wrong. Believe it or not, there are other people than you that understood it. As a matter of fact, when I read it at 12, I knew humans were the bad guys. See, I was smart enough to realize the Skinnies and the Arachnids WEREN'T THE AGGRESSORS. I get the satire. I GOT IT THEN. I GET IT NOW. Let me set the record STRAIGHT. I LIKED THE MOVIE. I thought it was dumb fun that barely resembled my favorite novel. They changed SO MUCH from the book that the story was barely recognizable. The CG series was closer to the book, except it lacked the fascist undertones. Here's a FOURTH group for you: People that act like they're the only ones that got the joke, and are snide to everyone else. Oh, WAIT!! I got another!! In "Stranger In a Strange Land", Mike is... wait for it... A CHRIST-FIGURE!!!! :::GASP!!::: But, WAIT!!! There's MORE!!! It's also a story about the POWER OF INSTITUTIONS AND THE CORRUPTION INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!! No WAY!!! Did I just ANALIZE SOMETHING?!? Do I REALLY, TRULY GET IT?!?<P> No, must just be you, huh?

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    If anyone is categorizing people here, it's you. "Snide" is when you imply that the most people who like the film were children when it came out -- in other words, there's you and then there's everyone else.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Doc: You're absolutley right.

    by Playkins

    And I'm turning it around because of the assholes that seem to think they're the only ones who seem to get it. Read the thread. I don't get nasty until someone insults me.<P> My first post (that spawned the "you don't get it" crap):<P> "It was fairly obvious it would never get a good sequel. I actually enjoyed the forst[sic] one. It was cheesy, guilty fun that made fun of it's audience. The CG show was a lot closer to the Heinlein novel, though."<P> So fuck of if you don't like it, me, or what I have to say. Why don't you look back at your 03:15:44 post and think about whether or not it comes off a little backhanded.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    I clearly stated "in my experience" and said the people "most often" offended, etc. <p> If you're not one of those people then you shouldn't feel offended. If you are one of those people and you are offended, then you can just kiss my ass.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:35 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu:

    by Playkins

    Point taken.<P> But, surely you can understand how I'd assume you meant me if I was the one being addressed.<P>

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    aaaargh. CUNTS

    by Lost Jarv

    Humourless fucking cunts. What the fuck is wrong with you?

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Weird...

    by Ghostball

    Up 'til now I thought Troopers 1, Recall and Robo 1 were completely and universally considered mandatory viewing... Classics to a man, equal to Tolstoy books n' shit (though too entertaining to enter them into the education system, obviously). But, now, I'm hearing people here give them all the 'Emperors' New Clothes' brush off... What next, people, Terminator 1? Aliens? Little Nicky? Where does it all end?? <p>Some of you people really make my brain hurt... this is what being a zealot must feel like. <p>*starts pounding own forehead and making mewling noises like Rain Man*

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Total Recall is subversive genius

    by Lost Jarv

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Bravo Ghostball Bravo

    by Xiphos_2

    For that concise yet eviscerating post. Kudos sir.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST

    What Vern didn't mention re: ST3

    by Lemming

    Is that Rico does pretty much fuck all for most of this movie. The robot suit for which the movie gets it's title is literally the last five minutes of screen time. This film is really following Jolene around. And that's no bad thing. But yes, it is a crap movie.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Clancy Brown, Michael Ironside: two badasses

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    What's not to love about the first. Never saw the second. Saw the trailer for the third. I'll catch it on a slow night of tv.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Fuck off memories

    by Lost Jarv

    Don't even fucking start.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    It derails at the end

    by Gezoes

    It's actually better than the second one, wich was a stinkin' pile. The middle bit of part 3 is actually pretty good. But wait until the end for the religion part. ST3 derails, and frankly it becomes downright embarassing. I was going to give it a 7, until the end. That's when it went to a 4. Jolene performed ok, but was horrible at the end.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    What happend to your post?

    by Lost Jarv

    It was the site trying to spare us the usual pretentious, rambling, incoherent load of horseshit that spills off your semen encrusted keyboard. <P>Once again, way to miss the point in what DocPazuzu and Playkins were arguing about. <p>And stop lying. You don;t have mates. You either have people that barely tolerate you, or orderlies paid to look after you on day release from the "Special" home.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    what's a "sandwish"

    by Lost Jarv

    asshole? <P>If you're going to insult me, then at least try to do it in a recognisable language. <P>Now fuck off and fetch my dry cleaning. Bitch.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by chipps

    kevin pietersen = captain of england

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    I know chipps,

    by Lost Jarv

    and I'm not happy about it. Watch his form take a fucking nosedive.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Just met Greg McLean at a screening tonight...

    by The Grug

    Seems like a really nice bloke (not necessarily what you'd expect from the guy behind Wolf Creek). Forgot to ask him if he had anything in the pipeline though.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Rogue

    by GabbaFiendScott

    Loved Wolf Crek so had this pre-ordered. the way the $-£ exchange rate is its not much more expensive to buy rather than rent anyway. plus god knows when we will get it here.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Black Water is better

    by Sithdan

    The best "killer croc" film to date is Black Water. Rogue is no way even close to its greatness.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by DocPazuzu

    It's nice to see that you can change your name but not your nature. When you were known as BladeRunnerUnit you had a bug up your ass about Heinlein and I remember your long, boring and inaccurate posts where you called him a "fascist". <p> You know, even BSB finally admitted to being brokebackcowboy so why this insistance and claiming you're not BRU? Come clean, you'll feel much better about yourelf if you do. There is no shame in having been banned.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    FUCK JUDD APATOW!! GET YOUR OWN PUNCH-LINES FUCKER!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Thje

    by Shoegeezer

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    The effects

    by Shoegeezer

    Don't know why folk are so down on the effects in this. Considering the budget and production time they're pretty good. There are loads of them, the Skotaks mixed in miniatures with CGI which looks much better than the wall to wall cheap CGI most DTV fare gets. Some of it is quite ingenious - the nightvision camera shots of the bugs outside the compound, the in-camera-effect of the shadows of bugs at the beginning of the trench battle. All the effects shots are well composed, such as the scorpion bug sequence or the stuff with the powersuits. Sure it has some of the worst acting ever (the French soldier girls is completely incomprehensible) and the film is way too long but it attempts to appeal to fans of both book and film, isn't short of action and does have some good ideas stuck in there.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Why don't DTV movies have cooler effects?

    by FluffyUnbound

    I mean, look at a movie like SCREAMERS. That movie was relatively cheaply made at the time, and would probably be even cheaper to make now. Why can't DTV movies have effects that are that good? Hell, there were really good horror/scifi/adventure films made decades before most of the expensive effects technologies even existed. It had to be dirt cheap to make the first ON THE BEACH. So why can't DTV scifi be that good? // Also, did someone seriously just claim that the first ROBOCOP was badly written and directed? You're kidding, right? The drawn-out reveal sequence of Murphy post-transformation ALONE puts the direction in that film high above most other action movies. The writing is pretty much the best satire of the 80's ever done that wasn't directed by Oliver Stone. And you're bitching about the acting? Weller does a great job, as anyone who saw ROBOCOP 3 without him can attest. And there are six or seven villain characters / minor characters who are better written and acted than 99% of action movie characters of any decade.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    FACT CHECK: Freeman still alive.

    by mbeemer

    At least, there's no announcement of a death on a Google news search.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    There are no Starship Trooper movies...

    by Ninja Nerd

    ...just lame shit that borrows the names and places, gets most of the points of the book wrong, and yes...LEFT OUT THE FUCKING MI SUITS AND DROP CAPSULES.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Ghostball

    by Vern

    Well, back in the late '90s STARSHIP TROOPERS was not as popular as it is now, especially on the internet. Alot of nerds and/or readers hated that it didn't have the robot suits that are apparently in the book, and couldn't get over that. But more than that people were offended by the anti-militarism themes of the movie. Jeez, I gotta read that book, because this is the first time I've ever heard anybody claim that it in fact was a satire like the movie is. I remember years ago watching endless online blathering about how the movie insults the book's powerful message of duty to one's country and what not.<p> In fact, there were endless arguments about whether the movie even was a satire... I think it is fair to say someone had to be pretty thick to not understand that aspect of the movie, but believe it or not you could find many people online who were convinced Verhoeven and fans of the movie had made it up after the fact that it was in fact funny and in line with Verhoeven's previous movies and not some kind of weird futuristic recruiting film. AND there was at least one major critic who declared the movie "fascist" and pointed out the Riefenstahl references as if nobody else would pick up on them and as if the movie was meant to be taken at face value. And very racist against bugs.<p> In short, STARSHIP TROOPERS was a widely misunderstood film for years, but I think most people have caught up with it by now. The "ROBOCOP sucks" thing is new though and I think specific to the one blatantly wrong talkbacker trying to pass that line along.<p> Also if I had banning power that asshole trying to make us think Freeman is dead would be banned so hard he wouldn't even remember what computers were.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    by the way, a bit of trivia

    by Vern

    Alejandro Jodorowsky loves STARSHIP TROOPERS

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    STARSHIP TROOPERS is vastly superior to TDK

    by Drunken Rage

    There, I said it. Let the flaming begin; now, fuck off.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv: TOTAL RECALL

    by Playkins

    I'll absolutely agree that Total Recall was a better movie than Starship Troopers. It really pulls a similar joke on the audience: the idea of, "Wait, what are we cheering for?" Total Recall can be endlessly dated. Did we watch a dream sequence or not? IMHO, it was done 1000% better, and much less explicitly.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Vern:

    by Playkins

    Yeah, you gotta read the book. It's more relevant today than ever.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Oops: BTW: (earlier post)

    by Playkins

    I meant "Total Recall can be endlessly DEBATED." Sorry.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    As to the book being saterical

    by subtlety

    I don't think so. Heinlein was a devoted Military man (he was in the Navy, and rose to the rank of lieutenant). Now, the book is not quite the fascist doctrine that its made out to be (and the movie satirizes) but there's nothing in the book or in his life which would lead one to believe his intent was to disparage militarism. Verhoven, on the other hand, loves to take concepts and push them to ridiculous extremes just to find out where it takes us... and so his take on Heinlein's fairly pro-military material is... Neil Patrick Harris as the head of the Gestapo getting his guys to rape a Vagina-headed-bug's face. Which is arguably at least as good. Heinlein was a huge figure in shaping Science fiction though (as Vern is no doubt aware, being an author himself) and well worth a look, though for my money "Starship Troopers" has suffered from so many cheap knockoffs over the years.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    PS Vern...

    by subtlety

    You rule.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    The first SST

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    The first SST is, in fact, one of my favorite scifi movies - I loved it ever since I first saw it in the theater. Someone commented that it's mostly CGI; it's not, if you watch the second disk of the 3-disk DVD you'll see that there's a lot of pracical effects (lots of the bug stuff, the Rodger Young breaking up, etc.) As for the suits and drop capsules, Verhoeven and Davison explain they really tried to get them into the movie but they didn't have the budget for it. I'm really, really looking forward to SST3. BTW, I thought Neimeier and Van Dien commented that the religion stuff that's supposed to be in there is satirical as well?

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    CG Cartoon was good! 2nd movie sucked!

    by turketron

    Used to watch saturday mornings as a youngun. It had a cool ongoing story. The second movie was a horrible shitstain though. I was pissed that i wasted time watching it.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Subtlety: Correct.

    by Playkins

    It was a comment of Militarism and the individual sacrifice for society. In Heinlein's world, you are not allowed a voice in government without personally doing service. It's the antithesis of Marxism and Communism, which is why it draws comparisons to Nazism.<P> Good point about Verhoven pushing the theme to absurdity, which you eloquently explained and was exactly the point I was trying to make when I said he butchered the novel.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    This site needs more Vern and

    by VegasRon

    less of everything else.<p>

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Looks like someone has been...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...reading Wikipedia articles on STARSHIP TROOPERS et al.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Again, M-O-M...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...underestimates Americans' capacity for not only intelligent but for critical thought. Heinlein did indeed endorse the idea of service to one's country, but Starship Troopers is his warning of what could happen if this idea is taken too far. If anything, Heinlein was a Libertarian, an idea which for many Europeans, such as the Portuguese M-O-M, is virtually indistinguishable from traditional American Conservatism. M-O-M calling Heinlein a right-wing extremist is, if anything, a demonstration of how shallow M-O-M's perception of American politics is. <p> I'm with Playkins all the way on this one.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by DocPazuzu

    You, Sir, are a complete and utter moron.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by DocPazuzu

    Both Harrison's and Haldeman's novels are great and I've read them all several times, but to dismiss Starship Troopers as some sort of fascist sidenote to which they're responding is to demonstrate a shockingly ignorant understanding of the debate going on within the American SF community at the time and of the American intelligentsia in general. <p> If you had any sense you'd be ashamed of yourself for being so condescending.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Sequel?

    by ChrisinLA

    There was a Starship Troopers 2?

  • Errr, you DO mean the film, NOT the novel, right? Because the novel didn't really outwardly satire the military machine. You kind of had to examine that one and ask yourself exactly what kind of world Heinlein was describing, and whether he was praising it or coyly criticizing it.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    This is M-O-M's problem -- he feels that he, and he alone, can decide whether an American is capable of socio-cultural critique or not. What's painfully obvious is that Heinlein is too subtle for him, although his haughtiness will prevent him from admitting as much.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Doc- That's the thing about Heinlein in general

    by Playkins

    He's one of the kinds of authors of which you really don't have to agree with the message to enjoy the subject. He kind of infers his opinion here and there without asking that his reader accepts his views.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    As an ex-pat American in Europe I have had to defend Heinlein so many times that it becomes tiresome.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST

    M-O-M, you idiot.

    by DocPazuzu

    It's okay if you didn't understand the satire in the book, but please -- please don't bunch everyone else together with yourself. A lot of people (yes even Americans) understood the satire in Heinlein's book, even if you, a Portuguese dilettante, do not. <p> The fact that Verhoeven's film is a more simplistic version of the story is irrelevant.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    harry or quint

    by mefrog

    please ban the fucker above me

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    or mori. Or anyone.

    by mefrog

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu: Defending Heinlein.

    by Playkins

    Do you mean defending him because of militaristic ideals, or defending him because his work is often misinterpreted?<P> Wow, either way I'm shocked that his books would be used in Europe to propagate stereotypical American ideals.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Now, why would you think my comment was about you, hmmm?

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by DocPazuzu

    I mean that espousing the idea of service to one's community, whether military or otherwise, is NOT inherently fascist, which, hideously, is not an obvious virtue for many Europeans, as exemplified by M-O-M.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Doc- I'd assume Europeans are typically on edge..

    by Playkins

    After all, they've dealt with about every kind of fascism/socialism/communism/monarchy, and the like within the last 200 years.<P> Something that comes off as fascist or can be construed as pro-Nazi is going to ruffle feathers.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    both

    by chipps

    the movie and the book were good. I was 16 when the movie came out and really loved it. I was unaware that it was so divisive, most people i knew liked it. I went off and read the book and was pleasantly surprised at it's depth. Much had been left out for the movie and i thought there was the possibility of good sequels from what was left of the source material. unfortunately instead we got bad sequels. such is life.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Just came across this pretty cool Casper Van Dien interview

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2922. Note the following: iF: "Do you find it ironic that STARSHIP TROOPERS is embraced by the left wing and right wing for two totally different reasons?" VAN DIEN: "This movie gets it from all sides. They get pro-War fans and anti-War fans. To the left and right. We get extremists who like it. I was on a plane and Karl Rove came up to me and told me how much he loved it. So I get that. And then, we also get the other side. The Green pacifist party had a screening of STARSHIP TROOPERS in Santa Monica and said “we really missed this the first time around, look at how great this movie is, it’s an anti-War movie.” So Ed and I were asked to speak after this rally. It was unreal. So it’s across the board. The military guys always come to me. It’s something to me, that has such a wide base. It gets missed by many from one side, but it gets embraced by the same people whole-heartedly. I don’t know how to explain it. Every director I met across the board loved it. Quentin Tarantino argued with us, even though we weren’t arguing, for three and half hours of why it’s one of the greatest movies ever made." Add Carl Rove and Quentin Tarantino to Darren Aronofsky, ladies and gentlemen.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5 a.m. CST

    Hmm, I'm going to check this,

    by Lost Jarv

    but I think I'm about to massively pwn that jumped up little iberian turd.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Yup

    by Lost Jarv

    "One of my favorite novels is voltaire's CANDICE, a book whihc is, in fact, a philosophical treatise in the form of a narrative. And STARSHIP TROOPERS is Heinlein's own Candice" <P>That would be Voltaire's CANDIDE. Just as well you know the name of one of your "favourites". I suspect you actually read the York notes on it when you were studying French. <P>Could you be any more of a pretentious, yet crushingly stupid, dick?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Having never read a word of Heinlen

    by Lost Jarv

    I don't really have an opinion on whether or not the man was a fascist. However, I can think of plenty of other lauded writers (in Sci-fi and otherwise) that were deplorable human beings- Even Aldous Huxley had some pretty fucking dubious beliefs.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:29 a.m. CST

    and....

    by Lost Jarv

    don't give me this bollocks about Europeans having lived through the worst of all regimes in the last 200 years as an excuse for you being a hyper sensitive dick. <P>What you, an Iberian cocksmoker living in the early 21st, have in Common with a Kulak being purged and sent to the fucking gulag can be put on the back of a stamp. <P>I know I'm British, so do not consider myself to be European (we don't), but there is nothing in your makeup that suggests that you are in the least bit "savvy"- and we (much more than you) have produced almost every great dystopian novel so can not only see it coming a fucking mile away but comment on it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    I also don't think you know what satire is.

    by Lost Jarv

    You cannot satirise a book. You can parody one, but by any classical definition of satire you cannot satirise one: <P>"a mode of writing that exposes the failings of individuals, institutions, or societies to ridicule and scorn." Oxford English Dictionary.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Is it true that one of the ships is called

    by Abominable Snowcone

    THE NUDE AKIMBO?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    And another thing.....

    by Lost Jarv

    indeed asshole. <P>1)Find one instance of me saying Lennon is a hack. One. <P>2)Don't fucking tell me what we consider ourselves to be. The vast majority of us do not consider ourselves European. In fact we make the distinction as to "continental" or "mainland" should give this away. Geographically we are European, but not culturally. So give that up. <P.3)Irony. I'll use a new Irony definition when talking to you- Irony= being a presumptious Portuguese cocksucker and still having the fucking temerity to lecture others for presumption. <P>How on earth do you "know" what it was like to experience fascism? You fucking didn't. Do you write for The Oporto Guardian? because it's only in the British version of that paper that I've ever seen such laughable hand wringing.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:16 a.m. CST

    damn it, truncated post

    by Lost Jarv

    and furthermore, Irony= Being a presumptious little Portuguese cock-end and having the fucking gall to lecture others for his failings.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    and riddle me this, fuckspoon

    by Lost Jarv

    when precisely have you lived under an oppressive regime? <P>My guess unless you are 50 is NEVER. Therefore, you know as much and have actually less understanding of fascism than I do. (I only say less, because of the ludicrously fascist policies that have been enacted in Britain.) <P>You can still smoke in the pub in Portugal. We can't- and before you tell me that isn't fascist, the first country to try to Ban smoking was Nazi Germany.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    WHEN DID I EVER CALL LENNON PRETENTIOUS

    by Lost Jarv

    one example, just one. AICN is full of my quotes, so it shouldn't take you long,

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    and I understand EU Directives far better than you

    by Lost Jarv

    asshole. The point I am making, that you are missing, is that in the UK it is banned outright REGARDLESS OF AIRCON. <p>This is an important distinction as it helps illustrate my point that the current government puts more extreme policies in place than anywhere else in Europe. <P>But good try.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    oh I see what you've done

    by Lost Jarv

    you've misinterpreted my post calling the film The Assasination of John Lennon boring pretentious dreck. I was referring to the film not the man. <P>Idiot. If you had any class you would admit you were wrong, but you don't so you won't.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    68 posts in the last 24 hours........

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....some work to do to get this up to the top spot.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    awwwwww I forget how nice fast TB loading can be.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Jarv.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Explain the difference between culturally European or not....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Our new home

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Gotta get settled in and make my ass groove in the cushion.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    CoC is in the House!

    by toadkillerdog

    hah

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    For CASPER VAN DIEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    and DINA MEEEEEYYYYYYEEEEEERRR!!!

    by just pillow talk

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Lets try and get our old thread to 4500

    by toadkillerdog

    Just post away and not read! We should give it a good send off and 4500 is a nice round number

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I'll toss a few posts here and there in the old thead

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Probably from home when I have completely random thoughts.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Oh, and like DocP mentioned up above..

    by just pillow talk

    The first Starship Troopers did kick ass. I loved seeing that movie int he theater. The spot that always kills me is when they sort of have the censor on the cow getting chopped up by the bug.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    and the kids doing "their part"

    by just pillow talk

    by stomping on bugs.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Were are those guys

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That show up to a party and things just blow up.<p> I mean blow up in a good way though.<p> I sort of feel bad leaving the other talkback though.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    There's lots of differences Danny,

    by Lost Jarv

    We're extremely Anti-EU, they're not. And that's just scratching the surface. We also tend to be monolingual and uninterested in anything in a "foriegn" language. We've got a very, very strong nationalist fervour and (to be honest) a fuck sight more history as one nation than them. Don't forget, America is older than Italy, Germany and France and Spain in their current forms. We're the only nation that has basically been unchanged since the early 17th century. We've got different democracies, a different head of state and a different legal system. <P>We really do not have a lot in common with Europe.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    and we spent most of the last millenia at war with them

    by Lost Jarv

    He really should fuck off, as he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Loved when drill instructor took demotion

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just so he could go fight the bugs.<p> Yes the propaganda pieces in the film are also what makes it a little different than the normal sci-fi film.<p> Without that angle I don't think it would be as well remembered as it is today.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I don't think Playkins will be sending you

    by just pillow talk

    a Christmas card this year Danny.<p>Think you'll manage?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I'm here..but I'm sad.

    by Jonah Echo

    Goodbye Outlander. I hope Mori's got some new news on you soon. <p> And before we get settled here, let me make an alternate suggestion. <p> I think this should be our new home. It's a week old, but it's for a great old movie that needs to be on dvd, and for the remake of it. Take a look. But I think we should go HERE. I at least want opinions from everyone. <p> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37718

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Interesting......that is very interesting. You guys do kinda seem all alone over there on your island. It seems like a place like Hungary or some other random country is basically the same to British or American....very foreign ya know?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Poor old Dina Meyer

    by Lost Jarv

    went from the Greatness of ST to the dreck of Saw. <P>Mind you, Poor old Cary Elwes.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Hhhhmmmmm.....the only thing is thats Merrick's thread. I fucking hate that cunt and I dont really want to contribute to his numbers. What you dont realize is Harry gauges the success of a writer on the traffic of their TB.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Cary Elwes

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    He was on one of the Law and Orders the other night (syndication).<p> He has blown up like you wouldn't believe.<p> I'm talking Val Kilmer syndrome and more chins than a Chinese phonebook.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Crappity crap...You are totally right..

    by Jonah Echo

    Now that you mention it, that's why I didnt spend much time in it last week.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    and if we're gonna get this TB to the top....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I think we should let Outlander die. It will take away too many posts if some of you are switching back and forth.....focus on one plan of attack. Casper Van Dien SHALL RISE AGAIN!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    at least Denise made it big...

    by just pillow talk

    Showing how much of a loon she is on her stupid reality show.<p>No one cares hon, just get nekkid please.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Continental Europeans

    by Lost Jarv

    really don't understand us, and to be honest we don't do ourselves any favours, as all we export to them is: Football violence, Drunk Chavs ruining the Beleariacs, Ex-pat cunts that refuse to learn the language and bad attitude. <P>If you took a vote in the UK tomorrow on whether we should stay in the EU, then I honestly think that it would be at best close but more likely a resounding NO.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Here it is then..

    by Jonah Echo

    *throws hat onto rack* until we get a Bermuda Depths remake TB. <p> And Danny, you still need to watch Bermuda Depths when you get a chance.Carl Weathers vs. giant sea turtle. You know you want it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Carl Weathers needs more work

    by Lost Jarv

    That's obvious.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Action Jackson vs. giant sea turtle?

    by just pillow talk

    Was this a DTV movie or a sci-fi movie?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Danny..calm a little..I don't want to support Casper

    by Jonah Echo

    He isn't a good actor, and it's sort of his own fault he is where he is. I think we can still support Outlander from right here, since it is a B-movie, possibly DTV, and in the mean time set up some viewings of ST3 and Rogue for all of us.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    JPT..its a tv movie that is on Youtube

    by Jonah Echo

    in all it's parts. It involves sea devils, giant turtles, mysterious beauties, mad scientists, and Burl Ives. And of course Carl Weathers. Check it out. It's from the 70s and one of those "did I dream this?" films from my childhood.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    hey guys.....you know what I was thinking?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Maybe I'm thinking of myself as a bit too important here........but some twat on another TB just said AICN was shamed with the mention of my moniker on national tv because anyone googling the name would find aint it cool, and they would gauge the website with my opinions. Anyway.......I wonder if that has to do with why my post history was deleted that very day the comic con footage came out with the first mention. What do you think? Was AICN concerned about people judging them based off me? What the fuck? I cant imagine why...............what do you think?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    which is why he OWNS this series...

    by just pillow talk

    Casper really should have existed in the 1950's sci-fi era. Can you imagine him against giant ants? Shoot the antenna Casper!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Can't we just all get along?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Me? I loves me some Europe.<p>Seriously though, I see exactly what Jarv is saying. There are a lot of similarities between England and Canada, what with the commonwealth and all. And Nova Scotia is perhaps the most "fascist" of all the provinces as they have initiated the same anti-smoking bans that exist in England. Not only are all bars and pubs smoke-free, but merchants can no longer display smokes in the open. So if you go in to buy a pack of cigs, the cashier has to go to the backroom to get it. And that meant that merchants had to retrofit their establishments to hold the smokes that previously were kept up front.<p>Imagine walking into a humidor and finding the shelves empty.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Also Jonah

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    When you watched Bemuda Depths, did you notice how well the transitions were when you jumped from one part to the other?<p> Very well done on the youtube edit.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    pillow....thats true....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Or he would have been good as the main Captain guy in Plan 9 From outer Space. He has the strong jaw-line for that shit.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    No Danny,

    by Lost Jarv

    That's like a sin-binning. You must have pissed someone off. <P>And frankly, AICN has more to be ashamed of than your moniker.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    now that's an interesting hypothesis Danny...

    by just pillow talk

    Could very well be. <p>Shit, this was our opportunity to spread the word of 2for2true to the world. <p>The broadcast would have sent a shiver down the spine of shitheels everywhere.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Jonah Echo you are so hard on Casper.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...and I'm kidding dude. I don't really love him. I just love that he is washed up. I stand behind any washed up has beens....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Also Danny needs to watch Rawhead Rex!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It is on youtube.<p> Bow down to the Rex!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Much faster over here

    by toadkillerdog

    But Fred and i are pushing our old TB. we are up to 4400 - Come on guys just 100 mor posts!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Personally I like parts of Europe

    by Lost Jarv

    I love Spain for example, and I'm making an effort to learn another language. <P>I just don't like that little bastard.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    I've just never heard of that happening....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...have you Jarv? Just the history being deleted....but the name still works fine.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    I'll have to check it out sometime Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    It sounds...PRICELESS...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    TKD

    by Lost Jarv

    I would, but it takes me over 2 minutes to reload between posts now and it's driving me mad.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Yes, I have

    by Lost Jarv

    It happened to that intergalactic arsehole Memories once. That's why I think it's a warning.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I think it's happened before Danny...

    by just pillow talk

    Very unusual, but I think it's happened to BSB. I can't remember the thread, if it was the Die Flaccid one or not.<p>Or I could be completely wrong.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    ah yes, and to M-O-M

    by just pillow talk

    Who claimed it was a "break" from AICN.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I love Europe too...

    by just pillow talk

    Funnily enough, I haven't been to England yet.<p>Fucking pussy-ass-muthafucker dollar. Rub some dirt on it!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    how the hell did this TB jump from 68 to over 100 already?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    because we're very fucking good

    by Lost Jarv

    I like giving Vern numbers. That makes me happy.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Casper was born 40 years too late

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    He would indeed have made a great 50's B-movie actor.<p>Danny, your tin foil hypothesis is intriguing. Especially if it's true Kevin Smith mentioned you also on a separate occasion.<p>No one is interested in sending a box of #2 pencils to the office of Judd Apatow? Christ, I'm on a mailing spree right now, why stop?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Fred could use your help on old thread

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Toadkillerdog and Fred are doing our part! We can get to 4500! Go team!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    ok then, I'm done talking about it

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I dont wanna sound like that one poor bastard that cried about getting kicked off of CHUD for a week......anyone read that when he questioned that Devin cunt-lip, and he banned his IP!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    That was creepy.

    by Lost Jarv

    I just wanted to sit him down and say "Dude, you got banned. Life goes on." <P>Even though he was right and Devin is a dick.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    I think it also happened to AnimalStructure

    by Lost Jarv

    his banning should be a fucking IP ban. <P>Yech.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I had a nightmare last night....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its raining and stormy outside and there is a knock at my door at 2am....I open it and its Danny Glover with his face busted up and covered in blood. He looks like he is about to fall over. Broken glass on the floor around his feet. He leans forward and growls, "I GOT 'CHOO....."

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yes Fred, but once you hit your goal......this is your new home friend.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    really? you dream about Danny, er Danny?

    by just pillow talk

    Yes, AnimalBrane should be IP banned.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Dammit, Jarv

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    All this talk of smoking has me craving a Cohiba. Of course I would a scorned like a wretched piece of filth if I came back to my cube selling like Castro.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Fred remember the CHUD dude

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    He was pretty sad about losing his CHUD identity. Fred think some people get too wrapped up in their online personas. It get personal to them

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    It's most unfair

    by Lost Jarv

    Fucking health fascists. <P>Living in london is the equivalent of smoking 3 fags every time you get the tube, so why do I have to stand in the fecking rain when I'm having a beer if I want a smoke?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Ok, back to the new home

    by toadkillerdog

    We have a ways to go to get to 400, but we should be able to put a hurt on them soon

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    There's something I missed in that little turds

    by Lost Jarv

    fatuos waffle. It wasn't a fucking historical accident that we don't get extreme governements. It goes completely against our nature. <P>I'll move on from this now.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    The goal for this thread has to be consistency

    by Lost Jarv

    Obviously, the old thread will die a death now, as will the political one and the religious one. That Lucas Shia one will hang about, but if we put a steady couple of hundred here it will climb back to the top. <P>Are there any new releases coming that may distract?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    HOD - Cohiba's

    by toadkillerdog

    I smoke them when I am in the British Virgin Islands, or in Canada. But I prefer the Dominican brands. The Romeo y Julietta, or Dominican Cohiba are better and smoother in my opinion. The Arturos are great with port.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    maybe the Pineapple Express TB.......fuck that

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    you guys smoke those Coppolas?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I forget what they are actually called, but he says they are the cigars his father used to smoke. He distributes them through his company......those things are fucking amazing. A friend of mine buys them. I believe he said a box of 25 was around 70.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Jiminy Christmas

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Don't even get me started on the Cuban embargo.<p>Frankly, I could care less if it's a Cuban cigar or not, as a tasty cigar from Honduras is as good as a tasty cigar from Cuba, but maintaining a 40 some year old embargo that was nothing but a grudge gone wrong in the first place is one of the worst foreign polices the US has ever had the shame to be associated with.<p>And yes, the Dominican Cohibas are better IMO and a Macanudo or Feunte go great with a glass of Sandeman.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Never had a Coppola

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    9 times of out 10 I'll grab an Arturo Fuente. The 10th time is usually a Macanudo or a Punch.<p>There's one thing I don't miss about Canada. The so-called Sin Tax on booze and tobacco. A 5 dollar cigar here will cost you 15 up north. And you're hard pressed to find a six-pack of ANY beer under $10.<p>Got the same inflated taxes of those items in England, Jarv?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Everyone....one last topic on Outlander to send it off

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    And calling Eli Roth a mastermind

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Is an insult to even people with the stupidest movie ideas.<p>Does anyone else think Roth is a talentless hack whose only association with Hollywood should be cleaning Paul Rueben's and Andy Dick's splooge off a porn theater floor?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    Everyone go home?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Or back to the Outlander TB to top it off?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Nope not gone home.

    by Lost Jarv

    Had some work to do. <P>Done now.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by just pillow talk

    There appeared to be some older threads where your postings got deleted, hence we thought you have gotten the ban hammer at one point.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    M-o-M

    by Lost Jarv

    I've tried reasoning with you, and I've tried being pleasant. I've also tried asking you flat out if you don't understand why you come across as a dick. <P>This time, however, you fail massively on every level- You don't know the name of your favourite book. (Priceless, and it wasn't a typo as you did it twice), You purposefully misinterpreted a post of mine to lie- and when presented with a challange are now taking your ball home- as I said, if you had any class you would apologise, you have been called out for gross stupidity and blazing hypocrisy, which you are continuing with by having the fucking brass neck to call someone else uneducated when you fell flat on your ass over Voltaire and obviously understand neither irony nor satire. <p>Fuck off, grow some fucking humility and then come back when you have something to contribute to this topic. Because at the moment all you are doing is polluting a B-movie thread with ill-informed, offensive, presumptious rants.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    and don't even try US politics/ Economics

    by Lost Jarv

    I know a fuck of a lot more than you on this subject and I would not even begin to have the arrogance to lecture a native on the subject. <P>Oh wait, who am I talking to? Never mind.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    and I didn't vote for Bush either time

    by just pillow talk

    If he was running for a third term, I'm sure he'd get elected again.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    HOD

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Trying to top off Outlander. 50 to go!! And Eli Roth can suck my fucking cock and gag on it....talentless arrogant twat!! <P> And politics in here?!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I'll tell you one depressing thing we do share with Europe

    by Lost Jarv

    we fucking sneer at Americans. Especially over Bush. The amount of times Mrs Jarv has had to defend herself in pubs over this is ridiculous.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Nope, I've just smashed him for politics

    by Lost Jarv

    Again. If the little bawbag (not a typo) had any balls he'd return with a quote and reference where I'd called Lennon pretentious, or at least attempt to counter any one of the points I raised. But he can't> <P>He'll go soon.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    I have never tried the Coppolas

    by toadkillerdog

    The Dominicans are better. But the Cubans have the cache -so people are willing to pay through the nose. Yes, a Macanudo, or Arturo Fuente and a glass of Ruby port! After 25 ounce porterhouse, or the insane 48 ounce porterhouse at Mortons.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    and Roth is a talentless sack of shit

    by Lost Jarv

    How people like Hostel is a mystery to me. I've just seen someone compare Roth to Miike. <P>Sheesh.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    We here in California did not vote for Bush. I've only met a few people who have....the rest of us say what the fuck? Who is voting for these cunts? Not us.....the rest of the country fucked us over this and we had to suffer like everyone else. Fuck.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    easy to sneer at...

    by just pillow talk

    harder to look in the mirror.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    And the only semi-political talk I wanna see in here....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...is trashing China.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    I know that.

    by Lost Jarv

    I think it's unfair to be honest. America is in dire need of some good PR, frankly. <P>I've travelled to lots of places in America and always had a great time and found the people to be about as fat and smart as us. It's Elitist horseshit and totally untrue. <P>Fuck's sake- Mrs. Jarv is from California.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    The real irony of it is

    by Lost Jarv

    The bastard that just made the sneering comment is from Fucking Portugal- the asshole of Europe and a borderline fucking Banana Republic. <P>Off home, see you all tomorrow.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    High tail it back to Outlander TB - we want you to have honor of 4500 post!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Unless Mrs Jarv voted for Bush twice

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    She shouldn't have to defend herself. There are a lot of s**theel Americans and as a country we've left a very unsavory footprint on all 4 corners of the globe. But the good guys, the ones with half a brain who realize our foreign policy needs work, have trouble sleeping at night because millions of Iraqis have been displaced, are bothered to know that 40 million of us are un/underinsured and cringe whenever Bubba T. Wifebeater gets a spot of the evening news talking about "them fags is an affront to Jesus Christ", those good guys are here as well. If it's one thing you all on these TBs have taught me, I'm not as outnumbered as I once thought.<p>Lotta good apples mixed in with the bad ones here. I'd be discouraged to know the world only sees the bad ones.<p>I gave up my Canadian citizenship to be part of this fruit stand. I have to be proud of it. And so should Mrs Jarv.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Danny, you know what's sad?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Bush's approval numbers just went up again. He's at 31% right now. To put that into perspective, that means you take 3 people off the street, polling odds are that one of them thinks he's doing a bang up job.<p>I don't work with anyone who is doing better now than they were 8 years ago. So what gives?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    When it comes to M-O-M...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS HIM!!!<P>And if he's going to take pot-shots at my country or call members of the CoC (or any other rider of the wastelands) "a heard composed of dumb idiots", then fuck him. If he wants to continue playing the self-righteous know-it-all film/political snob, then he better prepare himself for some blowback. It's that easy really...no matter how many times we tell him.<P>*sigh*

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    un-fucking-believable

    by just pillow talk

    See, I tell ya, if he ran for a third term there would be enough knucklheads to vote him back in.<p>And BTW, I hate our choices for November as well.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    now lets get this bitch to #1

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    the only, and I mean ONLY solution

    by just pillow talk

    is to unleash a worldwide pencil jihad...we will make the world see the light.<p>What's that? Portugal as the starting point? <p>So be it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Johnny Rico for Prez!

    by just pillow talk

    I'm sure he'd have killer speeches.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Pillow....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I completely agree....Bush would dominate in November if he could. And the fact that Obama is unable to get a decent lead with McCain is testament to that. <p>MoM is from Portugal? Is that why his English is weird sounding sometimes? Odd tenses and shit.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Who's watching what tonight?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I think I gotta put in something for the wife.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Johnny Rico in regards to IRAN:

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    "I SAY WE KILL 'EM ALL!!!!!" Crowd goes crazy with applause!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    HOD-- I'm gonna try and do Chocolate.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    man..just looked at a pic of Morgan's car

    by just pillow talk

    Fuck, he's lucky to be alive.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Apparently he's our Portugese connection

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    For the longest time I tried to figure out where everyone was from. Near as I can tell we don't have any regular posters from places like Japan or Hong Kong, which is a shame because insider information about their movies would be nice.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    as time passes...I like Obama less and less

    by just pillow talk

    A politician will always stink like a fucking politician. Assholes...all of them.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    For Outlander !!

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Hawaiian...

    by just pillow talk

    I did Daisy last night (I sort of wish, she was cute).

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    tonight...I think I'll have to sit through one of

    by just pillow talk

    my wife's movies: Heartbreak Kid. <p>Or my other option would be: Be Kind, Rewind.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    you had the last post Jonah.....you are a legend the likes of...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    John Holmes' penis...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, noon CST

    just pillow talk

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Fuck me there is no choice there. Michel Gondry or Ben Stiller.....uhhh...I'd take the artist.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, noon CST

    Interesting factoid

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    None of us over here appear to live in the same state. Although I don't know where Gaius, Abom and TKD reside yet. Speaking of which, there are some CoCers who have been AWOL. I don't think Abom posted once in the Outlander thread.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    yeah...tell me about it

    by just pillow talk

    Though if the wife works late...I'll throw in something else. But all I'm doing is delaying the inevitable.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    guys, thanks for that TB..it was great.

    by Jonah Echo

    And I think "Let's do it then" was a fitting end.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    oh yeah,,.,,the snowcone is missing.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I wish I had Flashpoint already

    by just pillow talk

    Abom is in Cleveland, and he hasn't been posting as much lately.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Eternal Sunshine and Science of Sleep are fucking brilliant...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Be Kind, Rewind looks more simple....but I'm sure its still good. I have yet to see it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Danny, you are the legend..

    by Jonah Echo

    at least in the mind of Judd Apatow. <p> Look for Danny the Dickblood coming soon to a theater near you.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    Though I think BSB, Yackbacker, Rickey Henderson, and Orcus are all in NY.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Get out your slings and arrows

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    But the Heartbreak Kid was amusing. I think I chuckled mostly because of my wife who roared the whole time and she has the cutest laugh, but it was much better than I expected. Cliche as hell, but funny.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I wouldn't doubt it....not like that fucker has any original concepts. FUCK YOU JUDD!!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    has anyone seen Be Kind Rewind?

    by just pillow talk

    That would be my initial preference over my two choices.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    you know whats gonna be difficult?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Taking the #1 spot from ourselves...........Outlander will be hard to boot with 481 posts...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    JPT

    by Series7

    The Stiller movie is actually pretty damn funny. Not so much for Be Kind Rewind. Stillers movie is mean and rude and Mecia is actually funny, because he was calm and trying to be the next Cheech, which he has the potential to be. But when he's loud and stupid like his show he's fucking terrible. Be Kind was just way to nice, both are vary easy to sit through though.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Science of Sleep..

    by Jonah Echo

    This is really strange, but I really disliked SOS. And I usually hail stuff like that as visonary. I watch ESOSM yearly. I even enjoyed Human Nature, and I'll watch any wierd dreamy thing you put in front of me.SOS was on my must-see list all year. All my friends said that looks like a "Jonah" movie. And yet, my wife and I disliked it. <P> That is one bus I would have liked to have caught, but I didnt.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    for real Hawaiian?

    by just pillow talk

    I'm just looking for them to be passable...bearable movies. Not the gouge my eyes out stuff like Fool's Gold or Monster in-law. *shudder*

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson is a cool cat man....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    thanks Series...I have hope now

    by just pillow talk

    whew...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    BSB and Yack

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Have been lashing it out with others in those political and religious TBs so I know they're around. We need to get them over here.<p>I haven't seen Rickey and Orcus since forever.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    and a Met fan to boot...

    by just pillow talk

    It's hard cheering on the NY Mess...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    I saw Orcus post in the Indy thread

    by just pillow talk

    Orcus won't post in these "hi-jacked" threads...plus he's been dealing with an infidel in the past: KevinWillis.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    My first viewing of it was luke warm. I was expecting something to Eternal Sunshine level of brilliance and heart-break.....but it just felt cold. I've seen it 3 times since, and oddly every time it gets better. I like the characters better with each viewing and noting little nuance and rich details I hadn't before. It is a hard film to crack......its a very strange pace and some things feel like they just dead-end and don't go anywhere. But I love it now. Not to the extent that I love Eternal.....but I doubt I ever will love a weird/romantic film that much.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    so, who is up for seeing ST3 and Rogue?

    by Jonah Echo

    If we are taking their talkback, then I think we should all agree to try and watch these. I'm actually excited for Rogue, though I didnt see Wolf Creek. <P> Last year I went with free tickets to see Primeval, thinking it was Rogue, and coming out MUCHO disappointed. Primeval was about on the level of a sci-fi channel original, but without the fun that comes with that.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I actually like Matthew Mac

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    But Fool's Gold was unwatchable dreck. Who thought that was a good premise? Heartbreak Kid is Citizen Kane Part Deux by comparison.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Danny, I just really disliked

    by Jonah Echo

    the main character. He really, really irritated me. And Charlotte Gainsbourg doesn't hold much interest for me. I thought the little stuffed horse was the best character. I enjoyed the dreaminess of the film, but I wanted better dreamers, I guess.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I'll have to eventually check out ST3...

    by just pillow talk

    Sounds much more promising than ST2, which I haven't seen.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    ST3 is already in my queue

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Rogue? Ehhhhh, do I have too?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I have not seen Be Kind Rewind..

    by Jonah Echo

    but I want to. Tomorrow night is X-Files, I think. I've been trying for weeks to see it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    *twists Hawaiian's arm*

    by just pillow talk

    Yes!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    though I don't know if I'll get to it...

    by just pillow talk

    so many other things to view first.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Who else could go for a burger and a beer right now?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Of course mine would be made of soy, but hey, even when I ate Big Macs all I could taste were the onions and the sauce.<p>Get me a Sam Adams, stat!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Fool's Gold looks much more interesting....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ..at least its got the Romancing The Stone/ Adventure shit. I haven't seen either though....but I would never sit through a Ben Stiller movie post 2001, when he became a worthless herpe on a dead hooker's cunt.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    What the hell is ST3 and Rogue?

    by toadkillerdog

    I would really love to see Orcus, Rickey and Fred all in same talk back!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Do you have the restaurant, THE HABIT near you? A healthier burger type place?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    oh..I could

    by just pillow talk

    I was just craving that for lunch.<p>I'm running out of beer at home too.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    When you say Orcus is batlling in the past - does that he has perfected his time travelling and is now able to post against his nemesis kevinwillis on old TB's long since abandoned?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    toad

    by just pillow talk

    Yup, of which I was a part of a few weeks ago. Kevin was trying to post in every single old thread.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Danny - Fool's Gold was shit

    by just pillow talk

    and my burger would be 100% beef, probably wash it down with a Guiness.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    circuit city has just informed me that my order

    by just pillow talk

    has shipped.<p>Double pony-tail adventure and Ong Bak on its way!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Every single old thread?

    by toadkillerdog

    Damn. I was going to ask why, but then again, he was the one who always tried to be first in every TB.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    yup, that be him Toad

    by just pillow talk

    Now he was trying to post "Last!"<p>He didn't realize the CoC monitors the past as well...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    No HABITS out here

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Got lots of Bojangles and Biscuitvilles and Golden Corrals and Lard Palaces though.<p>God bless the deep fried south.<p>I make my own soy burgers though so that's what I'll be doing tonight. Although one of you guys needs to remind me to take a few beer out of the garage and put them in the fridge when I get home.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I actually had a burger for lunch!

    by toadkillerdog

    No beer though - not on the job. But I could almost taste a Molson. HOD,in honor of you bring up the cigars, I will light an Arturo up tonight while I am walking my dog. That is always a good stroll with a fine cigar.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    Take out a few beers and put them in the fridge when you get home.<p>I realize it's a bit early, but it's the best I can do.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Oh....I was just gonna say they have a bad ass fucking veggie patty there.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    That is too funny Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    I have alwasys wondered how some CoC members seem to know what is going on in multiple threads. I assume it is a state of awareness reserved for "The Four", or those enlightened enough to obtain such awareness. Orcus is a known time traveller, so perhaps he gained it his own way.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Be Kind Rewind

    by Series7

    Real quick, again, it was an easy happy little movie. Kind of a just an easy feel good movie. You can tell they are having more fun then what was made in the end. What pissed me off though was that Gondry made a Swinwhatever they called it version of the movies trailer and they didn't put it on the bonus features. They should've had all the mini movies as bonus features, its pretty bare bones.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Toad..

    by Jonah Echo

    Look at the talkback you are in..Starship Troopers 3 and Rogue is the croc thirller just released to DTV.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Luckily I remembered to thrown my glass

    by just pillow talk

    in the freezer this morning. Beer in a frozen glass is the best. I scored a nice one from a Munich hotel too.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I'll zone ya the knowledge of the past toad

    by just pillow talk

    It must be guarded though. Orcus gets very upset.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    we need a topic..

    by Jonah Echo

    Let's go giant bugs for now.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    God...I hate the fucking zone

    by just pillow talk

    I feel so dirty now.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Mimic with the Judas Breed..

    by Jonah Echo

    those were classic giant bugs and only a few months prior to Starship Troopers.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Them!

    by just pillow talk

    The Monster that Challenged the World (snail related bug..close, right?)

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Them! is a classic.

    by Jonah Echo

    And Monster isn't a classic, but it's a fun little 50s b picture.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    How about the movie BUG from the 70s

    by Jonah Echo

    with rather large(but not monstrously big) bugs that would catch people on fire. Anyone remember this little flick?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Molson?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Yeeesh! As a former Canuck I'm proud to say we have better beers than that! Good Lord, man, drink a Killians, a Magic Hat, anything but a Molson.<p>Kudos on the Arturo though. You know about their curly heads, right? One of the most affordable cigars on the market and a damn fine smoke to boot. And it'll burn in the perfect amount of time it takes to walk a dog.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Empire of the Ants

    by Jonah Echo

    is always a fun time with the big bugs.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Thanks Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    You actually gave me that enlightenment before. I still want to see Orcus, Rickey and Fred together. I have seen Orcus and Rickey, Rickey and Fred, but never the three. Orcus is the Mystic. Rickey is the Soldier. Fred is everyones Friend.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    anime has a starship troopers-esque

    by Jonah Echo

    story called Blue Gender that involves giant insects vs. mechs. It's enjoyable but a bit too droll, like most anime.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Bug in the Edgar suit..

    by Jonah Echo

    that was a fun little bit from Donofrio

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Johnny Mneumonic - I think that is how it is spelled

    by toadkillerdog

    A long forgotten Keanu 'classic'. I actually forgot I owned the darn thing.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Mant!

    by Jonah Echo

    which isn't a real movie, but rather the movie within a movie in Matinee. Anyone here remember Matinee?? Anyone??

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    "Neigh means Neigh"

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Did I already mention that a new batch of movies...

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    ...will go out when everyone is done with the current batch? The new stuff will be more recent films though.<p>New topic? What was wrong with beer? Seems that's a topic we can all get behind.<p>Bugs? Not a bug per se but I will always dig on the Tarantula. Slowest moving creature of all time.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Killians is good, but I like the clean taste of a Molson or Laba

    by toadkillerdog

    Ok, HOD. favorite beers - common that is. 1) Stella Artois <p> 2) Fat Tire <p> 3) Corona (w lime) <p> 4) Arrogant Bastard Ale <p> 5) Blue Moon <p> 6) Molson <p> 7) Coors - original <p> 8) Sapporo <p> 9) Killians <p> 10)Labatts

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Whoops - two mistakes

    by toadkillerdog

    Switch the Sapporo for Presidente. Switch Labatts for Carib.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Tarantula works...it was a fun movie.

    by Jonah Echo

    Who remembers Black Scorpion? <p> or Eight Legged Freaks? <P>

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Eight Legged Freaks was good....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thought I was a little disappointed it wasnt more campy. That first trailer was awesome, with the dripping bloody EIGHT LEGGED FREAKS!! Title-card on the scene when he is climbing up the hatch or whatever that is and screams, "Get away from me you eight legged freaks!!!" They should have gone more camp. And period 1950s would have been great.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    and Johnny Mnemonic is fucking amazing....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Telepathic dolphins, Ice-T, Henry fucking Rollins, and Dolph Lundgren as that crazy Preacher that walks around dragging a huge cross. Fucking awesome.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Now you're talking

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    1) Newcastle<p>2) Sleeman Dark (Canadian)<p>3) UFO Raspberry Wheat<p>4) Corona (yes, with lime)<p>5) Guinness<p>6) Sleeman Honey Brown<p>7) Dogfish 90-minute IPA<p>8) Blue Moon heffeweisen<p>9) Boddington's<p>Sierra Nevada

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    OK, I'll be away for a while

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I really need to get some work done.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    man....this TB flow is weak

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Newcastle!!!

    by Series7

    IS AWESOME!!! Hey HOD, did you go Beerfest in Raligh? It was fucking awesome! There is another one in October. Judas is my all time favorite beer.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    DB

    by Series7

    If your still here. My mom is here visiting and I made her watch the thing about Conan last night and had to tell her what the BEEP meant. My lady friend said that its a reference to a boner, I said it was blood like some movie reference I missed. Can you explain?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Even when I try to work

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I keep checking back.<p>The TB is weak? I'm doing everything in my power to keep it on the up and up.<p>***sniff***<p>There's a Beerfest in Raleigh? I had no idea. I'll be there in October though. Let me know if you plan on going. Or will you be out in the midwest by then?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    We are doing fine gents..

    by Jonah Echo

    It's going to take a bit to get this thing going. We need some wide topics so people feel invited, and it's not that "those guys again" feel. <p> Lets get a big ol' B-movie discussion started. <P> In honor of the Klandathuians, lets do:

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    New topic: Alien races-the good, the bad and the ugly

    by Jonah Echo

    Let's get the most hideous and loathsome out of the way first: yes, you guessed it, those gross little beanpole aliens from Mac and Me.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    awwww shit....RELIGIOSITY has taken first place.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Is that the movie where Denzel is fighting a virtual reality Jesus played by Jim Caviezel?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    HOD and Toad

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I see where you both mentioned Blue Moon<p> In the fall try the Harvest Moon. It has a hint of pumpkin.<p> I love the pumpkin beers.<p> I also am going to purchase a six-pck of Sam Adams Summer Ale on the way home.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Also, as we discuss them, lets talk about

    by Jonah Echo

    stuff like cool factor, scientific accuracy(you know, I mean an attempt to make them plausible), ferocity, inspiration, etc. Let's do this right and pick races and then discuss them. Is it a nerdy thing to do. Yes, that's why we are doing it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its actually representative of entering a female when it is too close to her uhhhh.......cycle.....and the pesky topping you get on the corn dog which you didnt order by the way. Its a problem Mr. Glover must constantly face as he always seems to want it. And when Mr. Glover wants it....Mr. Glover GETS IT!! No matter the time of month....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Harvest Moon is actually good stuff.

    by Jonah Echo

    For a pumpkin ale, it's quite tasty. I had a few of those last halloween, sittingon the porch waiting for trick or treaters. Some kid in a pair of yellow pants with a felt tail tacked on told me he was a pikachu, despite his being clearly 15, and attempted to take one of the Harvest Moons. It didnt work out for him.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Jonah...I gotta think on this one....hhhmmm....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I knew eventually, Danny was oing to have that conversation..

    by Jonah Echo

    I could have waited til I was a little older for that one.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Lets talk one of the coolest alien races

    by Jonah Echo

    from recent sci-fi films. Those little insects in Red Planet. Seriously, that was a cool and thoughtful approach to alien life. It's what makes Red Planet far and away a better picture than the crappy Mission to Mars which had an alien that looked straight out of Fantasia. <p> Did those small insects have a name? They were the explanation for the breathable air right?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Aliens

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What about the aliens in Enemy Mine? Are there even females in their race? The men reach a certain level of maturity and just become pregnant.....and then they die while delivering. Interesting, and tragic....I liked it. A strange story about that is I used to think that they actually had sex when I was a kid....Quaid and Lou Gossett. There is a cut in the film that you can sorta interpret like that. I dont remember why....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yes they made the air.....I love that film. Very cool soundtrack too.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Best Aliens

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    1) Giger's Alien<p>2)The Predator<p>3) E.T.<p>4) Bugs in Starship Troopers<p>5) The villain from Galaxy Quest

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Wierd Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    They were Draks. And I always remember the scene where Davidtch goes back to the home planet and has his name sung in the line of Jareeba or something like that. It was a fine film, if not very subtle. I thought Lou Gossett gave a really good performance there, but the movie was almost universally overlooked til it started playing on t.v.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    At least those are my personal favorites

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I'm sure there are cooler aliens I'm forgetting.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I liked the idea of ID4 aliens

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Sort of like locusts. Going from planet to planet and using up the resources.<p> Also made the effort to say they picked our planet because they used the same things to stay alive (air, water, etc.).<p> They also had the biosuits to do battle against us, which overcame their size disadvantage.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Did we get fat and happy?

    by toadkillerdog

    Off of our success from outlander? Or, are we just hungover?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    If our friend kungfuhustler shows up, please tell him

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    To contact me via e-mail. I'm trying to get his package out but unsure about the mailing address.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    I liked the aliens in Signs until I saw it

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    The creepy factor was much higher when you just caught glimpses of them.<p> But then I couldn't get around the flaws in logic with their invasion.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Carpenter's the Thing

    by just pillow talk

    or how about the Blob? Was that from outer space? Wasn't there a catchy tune that went with that movie...it creeps?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Sarris

    by Jonah Echo

    was the alien in Galaxy Quest. Stan Winston(God bless him) made him, and he looked cool, but the thing that struck me about him, because he had such little screentime, was his cruelty for a PG movie. He truly hated, despised and tortured the alien race that had seperated from his. He was a truly sadistic sort of creature, and in some ways the movie glossed over that. He was several shades darker than the movie required, and I think that, more than the jokes or anything else, are what stuck in my mind. When he relishes watching their hope dies when Allen is forced to explain the truth of Galaxy Quest.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Enemy Mine

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    It is a great film....which is why it was on my top 20. Yeah...I remember asking my mom when I was young how they could have a baby. Hahaha. I should of been asking how anyone could get it on with that hideous beast.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    I will give it a try come Halloween.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    What's with all the nekkid aliens though

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    ID4 (without biosuits), E.T., The Arrival, War of the Worlds (both versions), Close Encounters....<p>Have more advanced species no shame!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Killer Klowns from Outer Space...

    by just pillow talk

    I'm just chuckling thinking about them...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    The Abyss aliens....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I love those things. I love how they are transparent and they look so sweet, gentle, and inviting. I really would not be scared if I saw them. Awesome design there.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Will anyone shed a tear as our old TB slowly descends ou of top

    by toadkillerdog

    A'la When Kirk Blew up the Enterprise?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Of course the Xenomorphs

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Sort of like deadly insects in how they infest an area and can adapt to nearly any situation.<p> Also show just enough intelligence and not over the top genius ability.<p> Sort of like uber-ants in a way.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    yea...Toad, and since we are discussing

    by Jonah Echo

    alien races...let's do it...1.2.3.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The Dog that was turned inside out in The Thing

    by toadkillerdog

    That was hideous.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The Moorwen!! For Outlander!!

    by Jonah Echo

    Huzzah! *lifts imaginary Harvest Moon*

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    E.T. aliens are strange if you think about them.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    They are fat, short, and clumsy. They seem very vulnerable without suits. I always wondered what their everyday life was like. What did the E.T.'s do on their planet? Are they all scouts like the ones that come to collect plants in the film....or do other ones have different jobs on their home planet? What does their planet look like?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Those Signs mothers were shameless too

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    You can millions of miles to kick our ass and you can't even put on a freakin' loincloth?<p>Bastiches!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    I always chuckled about the Abyss aliens

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Like Ed Harris would be standing there smiling and all of the sudden they whip out claws and fangs and spring to attack.<p> They rip his arm off so he can't let anyone know on the surface.<p> Maybe that was just years of unfreindly alien experiences.<p> In the movies of course....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    The Thing alien deserves some discussion..

    by Jonah Echo

    It's biology and how it did what it did always seemed to puzzle me a bit. However, I think it's utter alieness is part of it's charm. It's a mystery, and how it does what it does is far less important to those guys in that situation than the fact that it can do what it does.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    an alien wearing Heston's loin cloth from Planet?!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    haha....thats a fucking hilarious visual.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Klaatu..

    by Jonah Echo

    Go, Michael Rennie, Go!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    What was Starman's true form?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Wasn't it a small ball of light?<p> Or did it show? I haven't seen it in a while.<p> It did freak me out when he was changing into adult.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Crites...

    by Jonah Echo

    those pesky, blue furred, spine flinging, easter bunny crotch eating, bounty hunter evading, Don Opper hating Crites.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Well, it is only humans on this planet that wear clothes

    by toadkillerdog

    Humans wore clothes for protection from elements - once we left sub tropical climes. It was only later that clothing was deemed necessary for mores. Even today, tribes with little outside contact, rarely wear articles of clothing for any sake of modesty.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    "E.T. phone home"

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    "Yeah, about that. Put on a pair of pants first. Your shriveled dingus is freaking me out."

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Starman is a classic.

    by Jonah Echo

    I just love that movie. An underrated Carpenter film. I bought it a few years ago in the 5 dollar bin at Walmart. Karen Allen was great in that, as was Bridges. That needs a viewing soon.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    In the 70's books on Human /Alien sex were all the rage

    by toadkillerdog

    So, which alien/human hook-up would y'all like to have seen?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    maybe that dried turd thing on E.T.

    by Jonah Echo

    was the suit and underneath it looked like a naked midget supermodel.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Trust me, Toad

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    If you and I were in the same naked tribe, you'd be wishing ol' Hawaiian had a little more modesty.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    How about the Ymir from 20 Million Years..

    by Jonah Echo

    not to mate with, but wasn't he a great creature? Fighting that elephant at the end in the Colliseum.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    If went to another planet I would go naked

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Aint no shame in my game. Think about waking up and not worry about what to wear or if you had the latest style.<p> If clothes were born out of protection from the elements, why is there a law against public nudity?<p> If the temp is just right I say rock out with no clothes.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Alien/human hook-up

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Me, Seven of Nine, make it happen.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    someones going to have to say it..

    by Jonah Echo

    Transformers..one of the most implausible alien species ever. But still, I thought they were cool.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Chitty

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Public nudity in the south would render you blind in under ten minutes.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Hottest alien in human form

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Could it be Natasha from Species?<p> Or maybe Laura Flynn Boyle, actually scratch Boyle, as she creeped me out.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    No kidding HOD, I'm in Mississippi

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    And I am in the minority as far as people that go the gym everyday.<p> You should see some of the lifeforms here.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    True story

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I was in the grocery store and I saw a lady with a slab of ribs.<p> Her kids ask if they are having ribs.<p> Honest to God, she says I got you guys some hot dogs, I having ribs!<p> I weep for my town's blood pressure.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I liked the Pitch Black aliens

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Loved their weakness to light, hence their living on a planet covered in darkness for long periods of time.<p> I also loved the scene where they race against the failing sunlight and see the towers of aliens gushing forth.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    How about the alien in Fifth Element

    by toadkillerdog

    You KNOW Bruce hit that!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    I believe Jonah had mentioned the Arrival

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    When that kid's legs bent backwards I was honestly dumbstruck at the way he started scooting away.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    I used to hit the gym, but now I work out at home. Too many distractions at the gym!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Not at our gym Toad

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Hardly any young folk at all.<p> Mostly older people as it based at the hospital.<p> Now go over to the huge fitness center at the college and...<p> Oh. My. God.<p> Very impressive female talent there.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Danny Boy! period sex and Dickbloodness...

    by dioxholster

    got u famous. how cool do u feel that now u got all that attention from a director who u hated? i bet now u get laid alot, u can use it as a pick up line like this "hey baby u know who i am, thats right im Dickblood"

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Damn, has thread dried up already?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Somebody, anybody?<p> I think we can be at the top by the end of the day if we try.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    This is a very proud moment for me

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    We are about to overthrow that fucker Shia. Yes....yes.....

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Hello chaps

    by kungfuhustler84

    i was just reading up on the last TB. So this is our new home for awhile then? I'm really busy today but should be on later. Happy writing!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    My former gym doubled as a singles club. So you had to work out BEFORE you got to the gym, in order to look good!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Exactly. It has already scored me a ton of cod. Thats why I dont post as much as I was last week....I'm too busy cleaning up all the time.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    The Religion TB is going strong

    by toadkillerdog

    That wil be hard to ovetatke today with only a few hours of work left. We are not at full strength here eiher.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yes...this is the hot spot. Glad you found us.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I agree.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    WE TIED THAT CUNT SHIA!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    and..........YES!!! Now he has been beaten!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Eagle Eye will SURELY FAIL THANKS TO THIS!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    DICKBLOOD, make the most of it!

    by dioxholster

    things like that dont happen too often so u better make it count. i cant believe that ridiculous name got u famous, maybe one day i will name my future son after you, hes name would be Dickblood. hes gonna get all tons of chicks with that name.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Check your e-mail, I'm trying to get your package out today.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Danny you weren't driving the car that him right

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just want to make sure, as I thought of you as soon as they said a car plowed into Shia's truck (what does he need a truck for anyway?)<p> I can see you waiting down a side street, shaking with anticipation as you see him get closer through the binoculars.<p> All of the sudden you reach through the driver's window of the 1988 Oldsmobile Delta 88 and place the sawed off broom handle to the gas pedal and the seat, instantly sending the 305-cubic-inch V8 to a sustained redline.<p> As Shia approaches your hand slams down the column mounted shifter to drive and pull out in barely enough time to avoid the car's b-pillar flying by.<p> The Olds back tires scrabble for traction like individual pit bulls.<p> As the four-wheeled missle from Detroit bears down on its still unaware target Danny smiles.<p> The explosion of glass and metal-to-metal thud is the final climax of years of frustrated movie watching.<p> As Danny turns to head home and celebrate he hears a noise.<p> A slight moan floats across the wind towards Danny, somehow drowning out the sounds of sirens and screams.<p> Shia is alive...<p> So Danny turns not towards home, but towards a different used car lot.<p> The target is still alive.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Okay HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

    I answered you back. Let me know if you need anything else.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah....and somehow I confused him with Morgan Freeman, and hit the wrong fucking target in my second attempt!! FUCK!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    How do you confuse The Beef with Hoke?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Bad Danny! Bad!<p> Third times the charm?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Maybe The Beef knew something was up....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...for some strange reason he was in Morgan's hometown that very same day when he heard I was hot on his tracks. So he hired makeup wizard Rick Baker to put him in prosthetic black face. The application took 10 grueling hours to get the painstaking detail of all 57 of Morgan's skin tags. And the dental application took weeks to prepare. Nobody could believe an actor with Mr. Freeman's vast fortune could have such a dark yellow shade of teeth. "Surely this is yellow enough," Baker was heard grumbling. Shia held up a picture for comparison -- a still frame from Driving Miss Daisy, and said sternly "No....we must go more yellow still, my friend."

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    but what I wanna know is....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    who tipped that fucker off?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Sort of like Soul Man?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Maybe Shia can be in the remake of that classic 80's comedy?<p> Box Office Gold!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    he wouldnt have to wear a whig....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    is there a topic right now?

    by kungfuhustler84

    I have some time before I''m off to the comic shop. Comic book day y-know.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Chitty - this is a new TB - Neigh means Neigh!

    by toadkillerdog

    Hah! 4 to 1

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I feel like Legolas and Gimli comparing kills

    by toadkillerdog

    4 to 1! Plus a Fat Tire and a Dominican cigar! Life is good.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:27 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What are the good comics these days?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Shia in Soul Man

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    That was actually probably be funny. See....its corny shit like that I wouldnt even mind Shia in. I think thats what he was born to play.....Even Stevens shit for the rest of his life. I have no fucking clue where studio heads got the idea that he was leading man material and he had the weight to carry a film. Give me a fucking break. This guy needs to either remake Soul Man or Teen Wolf. That should be the limit of his career.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    guys...is Shia really that bad?

    by Jonah Echo

    I know Danny might be gunning for him for Indy 4, but he helped Transformers, and I quite liked Holes and Disturbia. In fact, I think Eagle Eye looks pretty good too. <P>

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Aww, man, we are going to have to deliver..

    by Jonah Echo

    the mercy kill to our own TB soon. It's going to be hard putting ol' Yeller down.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    Danny has a 'hard-on' for Shia, so just get out of his way. I could care less about Shia though. He and his backstory are a bit annoying. But he aint that bad.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I cant think of another lead actor at the moment whose face, voice, and hair irritates me more. It has nothing to do with Indy IV for me....I've despised him for years. Indy was the cherry on top.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Regarding our old TB - As Batman said in TDKR

    by toadkillerdog

    This would be a good death.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    I was watching an interview with Shia..

    by Jonah Echo

    and he was talking about changing his hair because a talkbacker kept going on about it. He was getting his keys to head out to the barber, when he noticed the guy's TB name was DANNYGLOVER'S DICKBLOOD and he just laughed and laughed.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    well I kinda hate Marvel right now

    by kungfuhustler84

    what with all the crossovers and all, but Captain America is usually the best comic on the stands every month. My favorite though would have to be the Immortal Iron Fist. I just fucking love that comic and everything about it. There's one book called Infinite Horizon that I particularly enjoy. It's an adaptation of the Odyssey, but it's set now, and it's about a man trying to return home from the war in the Middle East. The issue with the Cyclops just came out a few weeks ago and the writer handled it in a very cool way. The last Thunderbolts arc was incredible but I hear the new one ain't so hot. All Star Superman continues to leave me in awe. It really is one of the best comics in years in my opinion. I actually haven't been to the local shop in weeks because i have been visiting family in Kansas, and I didn't really have time when I finally came back to Oregon last week. So I have a lot of catching up to do. I will just have to see what's in my box when I get there.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    This would be a good death

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Batman? Wasn't that what the old Indian dude in Legends of the Fall said in voice over at the end when he spoke of Pitt being killed by that big ass bear?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Anything good happening with The Punisher these days? Is Garth Ennis still in control of that?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    oh and Green Lantern is great

    by kungfuhustler84

    and it's getting better

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thats not funny. That would be a sad day for me, as I would have to change my beloved name. I could not be associated with that scum. I just couldnt do it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    the Punisher? hmmm

    by kungfuhustler84

    I don't usually read that comic, but I hear good things. I actually think Ennis may have just finished his run actually

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Whats a comic I could pick up right now and not have to know shit about whats going on in the story? I've been wanting to read some good books.....but I dont wanna be lost. I haven't read shit in like 10 years. I like something with ridiculous amounts of violence

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Those religion lovers and haters

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Must really be going at it.<p>May my death either involve a sea of boobies or fiery wreckage. Not both. That's just weird.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Heavens to Betsy Toad!!!!!!!!!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Do you remember the guy in Big Trouble in Little China that just swelled up and popped?<p> That is how mad I am right now for not realizing that.<p> In fact I thought of it way earlier but forgot about it.<p> I could eat sawdust and shit two-by-fours!!!<p> I have to get three straight just tie it up?<p> I shall drink an extra Summer Ale just to calm me fraying nerves...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    okay Hawaiian

    by kungfuhustler84

    I sent you like five emails because I kept making typos and shit but it should all be in order now. I'll be gone now for most of the day but I can get back to you tonights if anything is wrong. Thanks again for this incredible gift dude!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    and Danny

    by kungfuhustler84

    I will check in at the comic shop and get back to. Like I said, I haven't been in a few weeks.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Aw man Shia aint that bad Jonah...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I just like to bring it up to see Danny's reaction.<p> I swear seeing Danny go off on someone is the funniest thing on the internet since Joe Mathlete started explaining Marmaduke.<p> I honestly have never seen anyone tell another to eat aids and die.<p> Good Stuff!<p> If I could just get Danny to give the quote from Ahnuld to Satan in End of Days...

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    kungfuhustler84

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    As the Red Leader guy said in Star Wars who a short time later died in fiery wreckage, "IT'S AWAY!"<p>If Fred is around, your package is off too.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Do we need a list of things that every TB must contain?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Like neighs and choir boys?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    just for Mr. Gang Bang (imagine the line with the accent)

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    "You want to fuck with me? Oh, you think you're bad, huh? You're a fucking choir boy compared to me! A CHOIR BOY!!!!"

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear get's you!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    That was Frank Millers dark Knight in which Batman said - thi would be a good death

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Chitty and Jonah

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You two can defend Shia all you want, but I wont lose my cool with either of you.......I........won't.......I uhhhhh.......I just....wont .......(hand and left eye twitching) <p> Images of Shia's face flutter through my conscious......my eyes start to bug out of my head like the Arnold puppet in Total Recall. I must learn......SELF CONTROL. Awwwwwww.....thats better.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    The Religious TB is very civil. There are high powered arguments on both sides, but no name calling. Trolls must be scared of eternal damnation - or Libwar!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    NO MORE NEIGHS!!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I had nightmares of horse-fucking for days after reading that cursed TB. In that Danny Glover dream where he shows up at my door in the middle of the night, he may very well have been fucking a horse, I don't recall.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Oh jesus I'm laughing now...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just when my boss walked by too.<p> Oh well who gives a shit, because I read that quote everyday and laugh my ass off.<p> Maybe it's the thought of only Arnold (and maybe 2for2true) being able to say that to Satan...<p> End result is funny stuff!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I am thinking of Fred's immortal line " My package is in a jar"

    by toadkillerdog

    That was too damn funny.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    we are right on Outlander's ass now.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Actually Fred said " Fred's package is in a jar"

    by toadkillerdog

    My bad Fred. I know you do not use I.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I shall drink yet another Summer Ale for HOD

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    just for suggesting that we have neigh zings and arnold quotes to Satan everday in ever talkback we go to.<p> Geez I'm tilting a glass tonight in honor of Toad's commanding 4-1 lead in horsee zings and HOD's suggestion of daily talkback staples. In other words, buckle up!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    This TB was at 70 when we took over

    by toadkillerdog

    We will not get the Religion one today, but by tomorow morning, we should be back at number one! I hope the British contingent knows where to go,

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Danny - Nay to no more Neighs!

    by toadkillerdog

    You would have to give up Shia bashing, embrace Indy IV, swear eternal love for Batman Begins, give birth to Judd Apatows bastard, and kiss M-O-M, for Chitty and I to stop the Neighs. Besides, he is down 4 to 1, do you think Chitty will just give up?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    aaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST

    FOR OUTLANDER!!! AND.....FOR HORSE FUCKERS!!!!!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    You know, we could have hit 5 K on Outlander

    by toadkillerdog

    Anyway, does anyone know what egg salad said this time to get himslef banned? I swear he must be trying to set a record.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    He started posting Jew hating shit on multiple TB's.....like 10 posts in a row. Hahahaha.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Sorry, guys,I'd talked more but..

    by Jonah Echo

    I'm feeling a little horse. He doesn't seem to mind, though.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    "I'd talked"

    by Jonah Echo

    Dear lord, I sound like bootleg subtitles.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    oh you sick rat Jonah

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    He is starving for attention. I know the insults fly around here about people being Motarded or brain damaged, but people like egg, lead me to believ that some of the accusations are true. Some people are seriously disturbed.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Here it comes...

    by Jonah Echo

    Lowers the rifle at Outlander TB.. <p> "YOU'RE MY BOY, BLUE!!!! <p> "Sorry!!" <P> BLAMMO!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah I know. Thats why I was trying to squeeze it out of him what makes what he does fun. It would be fun for about 10 minutes....not for days and days of the same shit. Weird.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    POW!! JESUS CAVIEZEL IS GONE!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    errrr...just tied....okay POW!! Now he is really gone. Fucker.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    He is still here somewhere..

    by Jonah Echo

    so Im sure he is delighted we are talking about him.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    That cracked me up!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    FOR OUTLANDER!! Here we come Maher!

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I prefer sending the Outlander to graze

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Because even though he isn't being ridden, he can always be found just hanging out.<p> I prefer his life being set out to stud.<p> And avoiding Equinas late at night of course, of course.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    MUNICH

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes he is still here, or will be back. But never, ever engage a troll like that. It is pointless. I just totally ignore him, and I know he will be banned and his posts removed in a day or two. That is the good thing about banning, all of the offensive crap is washed away.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Caviezel will be back in three days

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just you wait.<p> The great stone will be unturned and the talkback will rise again.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Chitty - he will need more bandwidth

    by toadkillerdog

    And with that, I bid you all adieu.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    LOL Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    did you catch my question if Munich was considered sci-fi for our list yesterday? <P> Also, did everyone participate in our top twenty fantasy movies list? I still hadn't properly constructed mine.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Cock Tease -- where's your Top 20 Sci Fi list?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Anyone actually read the review for Rogue above..

    by Jonah Echo

    it sounds like an actual good movie. I'm looking forward to it. Thoughts?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah Jonah I read it...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    And sort of gave me a feel of Razorback, with the Australian outback scenery serving almost like another character in the film.<p> If it is half as good as Razorback, then I'm watching it.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Trailer for Rogue

    by Jonah Echo

    Doesn't look too bad at all: <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrq4qQr2Zy4

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Chitty..

    by Jonah Echo

    I love Razorback. I wish it were on dvd. Yea, Rogue and ST3 definitely demand a DTV night. Im half tempted to watch Lost Boys 2. Anyone here seen it?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I haven't heard good things about LB2

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    But I usually check those things out anyway.<p> I just need to get signed up for Netflix, I keep puttin it off and I am missing out big time.<p>

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    what the fuck

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ha.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Scene that hooked me in Razorback

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    When the guy is looking through the scope and sees the smaller pigs.<p> All of the sudden he goes past something too big to even notice. That's when he stops the scope and pans back to see it.<p> He takes a shot and that trough flies up in the air. Loved it!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Should be seeing

    by Series7

    Rogue and Starship 3 next week, looks like they are in high demand on the flicks of the net. OK time for work 2. Really wanna see Rogue, looks pretty BA.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Put beer in the fridge before I did anything else

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Now to figure out what's for dinner. Soyburgers will have to wait another night.<p>We did greatest entrances, but how about greatest exits?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    You, know there just aren't enough creature

    by Jonah Echo

    movies out there. I think I'm gonna do some net scouring and see what's on the horizon, creature feature wise.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    is it safe to talk greatest exists with ILAGCT

    by Jonah Echo

    around?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Hahahah....Jonah you totally set him up for that!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    him/her/it? I dunno....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    great exit: Morgan Freeman in Nurse Betty

    by Jonah Echo

    that last shot of him was great.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Nurse Betty-- what is the shot? I forget

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    the last shot of both Mad Max in RW and last

    by Jonah Echo

    shot of John Wayne in Searchers. Both mentioned as great entrances too.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    The Searchers is the best....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    because it perfectly book-ends the opening. He comes alone, he leaves alone. Sad sad ending.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST

    we are creeping up on Bill Maher

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    fucking cock tease....you murder this TB!! FUCK YOU!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    again....FUCK

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    So who else is enjoying a beer?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I thought I had a Cohiba stashed away but it appears I only have a few Don Diegos so those will have to do.<p>It looks like this is the dead period when people are either asleep or heading home from work.<p>I'd keep posting tonight but who really wants, or needs, to hear my blather.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    I think it's time Harry put up a new Harryhead

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    That Hellboy one has grown tiresome.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    And just like that

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    We're #1.<p>Cheers!<p>***raises beer to monitor***<p>Makes you realize how much it's gotta suck to be a nightwatchman.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    HOD I already drank a beer in Toad's honor

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just for his 4-1 lead in the Neigh means Neigh zingfest.<p> Now I'm opening yours for suggesting a Neigh everday and an Arnold quote everyday, you know the staples of a good talkback.<p> By the way, I went with the Sam Adams Summer Ale,despite the fact that they had a sixpack of ShipYard pumpkin ale.<p> It just wasn't cold enough for that yet, but it may be by Friday.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 7:01 p.m. CST

    WOW!! CHEERS GENTS!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    From 68 posts to the Number One spot in one day?!! GOD DAMN!!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Do we ge some kind of award for this?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Amazing ho we can power a talkback to numero uno.<p> This beer is going down very good.<p> No gym tonight, so maybe viweing a little Pitch Black or Aliens.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    the reward is a weekend in the Bahamas with Harry

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST

    hahaha.....the ban hammer came down on Cock Tease

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Is anybody watching scare tactics?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Damn that guy at the little film premeire in the first skit was about to actually cry.<p> Shit that was funny.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Also I was watching Dodgeball..

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    And the guy that brought out the money in the treasure chest at the end was Rico's fellow soldier in Starship Troopers (the first one).<p> Weird to all of the sudden see him that small role.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST

    They are doing the best of Scare Tactics now

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    This shit is hilarious! Please tell me someone is watching this.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Okay Danny Glover's penis liquid

    by kungfuhustler84

    I went to the comic shop and got some shit. one series I forgot to mention is called Criminal, and a new issue beginning a whole new arc is starting today. Eash ar consists of mainly stand alone stories that are really only connected by recurring characters. It's an excellent homage to the entire noir film genre (which is my favorite genre after the samurai film) and is really well written. If you like gore I would suggest the incredible Walking Dead series by Robert Kirkman. The 100th issue just came out and the author is letting it be known that they are now taking it into a new direction. It's really one of the best books on the stands. I would also suggest trying to catch up with the story by gradually getting some of the trades. It's a great story worth every penny.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    And everybody, this may be too bold but...

    by kungfuhustler84

    I'm feeling like the series "Twelve" may be the new Watchmen. The story is really incredible. Check it out and try to get the back issues if you can. I am seriously excited that I am witnessing the rise of such a great story!

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST

    so I went to the library today

    by kungfuhustler84

    and checked out the film Tears of the Black Tiger (seriously excited to see this again, what great campy delicious fun) as well as both volumes of Darwin Cooke's DC: The New Frontier. You know the story that's got the whole Justice League, but it's set in the transitional period between the 50s and the 60s during the Cold War? I have never read it, but I am really excited.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10 p.m. CST

    Wait a tick

    by kungfuhustler84

    is anybody here even a comic book reader or am I just spouting nonsense to myself? and where the hell is everybody? how do I always miss it?

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    interesting article on IGN

    by kungfuhustler84

    about how to put a Robin in Nolan's Batman universe. Maybe something to discuss? Check it out.<p>http://comics.ign.com/articles/896/896638p1.html

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    don't forget that space kids

    by kungfuhustler84

    let me know what you think of that article. It really convinced me it could work. Personally, I love Robin and think it could really work.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 10:44 p.m. CST

    this fast loading talkback

    by kungfuhustler84

    is absolutely incredible. Only downside is I don't have time to make myself a sandwich in between load times any more.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    I miss

    by Series7

    tweak my nipple

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    YO kungfuhustler84

    by Series7

    I've been getting back into comic books recently. Just doing a bunch of miniseries and gonna read Watchman, I was tired of all these "comic" movies I had never read, and book movies where getting to long.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Sweet

    by Series7

    You reading the tweleve as well? I just picked up issue 7. I have all but issue 2, fucking a-hole e-bay I won turned out they didn't have it, but they gave Spawn #1 for a good price instead. But I really want to read the other issues but i want to read them in order. If you've read issue #0 you can tell they are banking on a movie deal, the fucking descriptions of the characters has what actor would most likely play them.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Oh man

    by Series7

    The Walking Dead is fucking amazing! Seriously, I hate M. Knight Shazam, but I think he would be the perfect director to make the comic into a HBO series, you can't make it into just a one off movie without it being too Night/28 Days/Dawn Remake/any other Zombie movie.

  • Aug. 6, 2008, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Is anyone else

    by Series7

    As excited as I am for the upcoming season of Prison Break as I am? By far the best god damn show on the tele. Now with the addition of Micheal Rapport (which can only mean this will probably be the last season), will only make it that more awesomerer. Fucking Heroes/Lost/24/Terminator/Dancing with the stars/Dealing Deals/Show Me the Money/Cavement/2 1/2 Men, Prison Break is the best show.... save for maybe Dexter and Rescue Me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Chitty..

    by wyvern

    Just so you know you weren't the only one watching scare tactics.I was flipping to dodgeball too so thats kind of odd.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Twelve as a movie deal Series7

    by kungfuhustler84

    I don't know if they are really baking on a movie because half the actors they recommended have been dead for ages (Cagney?).

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Prison Break is the best? Really?

    by kungfuhustler84

    Let me begin by saying I am not a TV fan and I hardly ever watch it, so I really have no say. I am hoping to eventually watch all of Heroes and the Wire on DVD at some point though. All I've been hearing is that The Wire is the best show ever or whatever, so of course I'm intrigued. Have you seen it?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:08 a.m. CST

    *banking* not baking

    by kungfuhustler84

    duh

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:10 a.m. CST

    and George Romero

    by kungfuhustler84

    is the only guy I would ever want to imagine handling a Walking Dead television show. We'll just pretend Diary of the Dead never happened. That should help.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by kungfuhustler84

    If you're gonna read Watchmen make sure you read Dark Knight Returns too. Both are classics. You could argue that either one is the greatest comic book ever and I would probably agree with either, though I personally hold Watchmen higher by a hair.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:13 a.m. CST

    I've only scene one episode of the wire

    by Series7

    Because I've never had the HBO, and they started showing it on the BET and I caught the first episode and it was all edited and I am not sure if it was the first Wire episode and I didn't really get into it. As for Heroes, the second season was so terrible because it starts at the same place season 1 started, and its pretty much the same season over again! <P> Prison Break is just awesome fun, it comes on Monday nights when my brain is kind of fried and its easy to follow, then its followed by Terminator which I am always to out of it to fully know whats going on. Plus Prison Break is doesn't kill off the best actors after like 3 appearances like Heroes did to Malcom Macdowell who was mad he was off'ed. Prison Break kicks ass just because it doesn't try to over think shit, it just goes with it and anything goes. Speaking of PBreak what I said about the Twelve becoming a movie I mainly remembered them mentioning Dominic Purcell being the underground guy, he is in PBreak.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Yeah I plan on

    by Series7

    Reading The Dark Knight and The Killing Joke.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Read

    by Series7

    Wanted and that was awesome. I've been reading the Deadpool Cable series. Deadpool is my favorite Marvel character, Spawn is my all around fav, thought I've fallen so far behind on Spawn I've missed a bunch. Deadpool is just starting to get really popular so I haven't missed much.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    where the hell is everybody?

    by kungfuhustler84

    do i have to post a hundred times on my own tonight? don't make me do it! I swear I will! don't make me! oh I will! you don't believe me? we'll see about that

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:17 a.m. CST

    THE THING YOU MUST WATCH THIS!!!!

    by Series7

    I put this on the Outland thread and I think KungFu was the only one that watched it. I saw that you all discussed The Thing with out me (anyone else play that game? I bought it for like $5 and never played it) but if you love the thing you need to watch this video clip. <P> http://www.joblo.com/video/job lo/player.php?video=gijoe-thing or here <P> http://tinyurl.com/593hl3

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Fu

    by Series7

    Aren't you in Oregon? Most of us are on the East Coast I think? I am and its fucking late and I need to go to bed, because like vaudeville I'm dead.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    Yeah I'm in Oregon.

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's one o'clock here and I'm not even tired. Miss Hustler and I just finished watching Oldboy. It was her first time watching it. Fun to see her gradually realize the big surprise. Has any of the C of C even talked about that movie yet? I remember really liking it the first time but upon a second viewing I am just in awe. The movie is just really incredible work.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    was just watching series 7

    by chipps

    it was good. i liked it

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST

    And on the morning shift

    by Lost Jarv

    Hello everyone (I hope you're here chips my Antipodean mate). <P>Greatest last shot ever- The Godfather. It's just perfect. <P>Other absolute crackers: Trainspotting and the British end of The Descent. <P>If we're going to have great last shots, what about great last lines- Alien/Alien3 (same dialogue- different inflection and I think I prefer Alien 3), Casablanca. THis is a good topic.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:21 a.m. CST

    We talked about Oldboy for a bit

    by Lost Jarv

    It is great, but not actually my favourite of the Vengeance trilogy. <P>I prefer Sympathy for Mr Vengeance. I just wish he'd been able to do what he wanted and fade to black and white as the moral sides got more and more blurred. <P>I also like Lady Vengeance, but really feel the end ruined it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Never, ever go to the gym

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm lucky because I have a metabolism that burns like napalm so never get fat. I used to play Tennis regularly in the summer before I did my Achilles tendon, but not now. <P>I really should take up some exercise as I smoke, but prefer sport to "working out" (which bores me).

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Watched The Lives of Others and Unbreakable

    by Lost Jarv

    last night. <P>I actually really went off Unbreakable. It's a fucking shame because I was really enjoying it, and to a great extent it would be a perfect origin movie. But then that ending makes me want to hurt endangered species it's so shit. And it barely qualifies as a twist because if you couldn't see that coming you should be ashamed of yourself. <P>I do really like Bruce in it- a great understated performance, and also SLJ puts in one of his better efforts. But that bloody end. M. Night really is a dick.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    True story about ET

    by Lost Jarv

    I was listening to the radio a bit ago and Mark Kermode (one of our better critics) was telling a story about how he went to interview the guy that made the ET puppet. The interview was going well and the guy said "Do you want to meet ET". Kermode was excited, so the guy took him out to a shed and in the corner under a load of rusty garden shit was ET. Kermode said it was heartbreaking, because the puppet had actually gone mouldy and was just fucked.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:28 a.m. CST

    the morning shift is a very lonely place.

    by Lost Jarv

    I may go and stalk memories to administer another beating. Just for shits and giggles.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I loved the first series of Prison Break

    by Lost Jarv

    and cannot believe it came from Ratner. The second series (once Abruzzi died) was so shit I stopped watching. I also wanted to slap that Latin drip for being such a fucking girl.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by chipps

    i like those on your list. my fav there would the godfather. I'm having a think myself. I like fight club - that pixies song is awesome, miller's crossing, again, great music. hmmmm....<p>and when are you guys gonna quit getting yarpies to captain your cricket team. honestly. it's becoming a habit

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:57 a.m. CST

    It's because we didn't have any Indians

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm not joking- I can name, easily, 10 Yarpies/ Indians and an Italian that have captained England. <P>It's all a cunning plan to evoke the spirit of 1981. What will happen is that England will be getting thrashed by Australia next Summer. The Kipper's form will be in the toilet and it will be looking like a whitewash on home turf. Horrified the ECB will send out the call to the one man that can beat Australia- and the great MPV will return to lead us to a 2-1 series victory. <P>You heard it here first. <P>Or maybe I'm just being blindingly optimistic.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    hmm

    by chipps

    i'm trying avoid shocking endings and go with good shots. hmmmm

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Fight Club

    by Lost Jarv

    What a good call. That's great. <P>I'd also add Psycho to the list as well. <P>I seem to have a thing for Hitchcock at the moment.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:01 a.m. CST

    and that list

    by Lost Jarv

    Nasser Hussein, Douglas Jardine, Allan Lamb, Tony Grieg, Ted Dexter, Pietersen, Colin Cowdry, Gubby Allan (well, he was an Aussie- but what the hell),Andrew Strauss, <P>And that's before I even get on to Welsh/ Scots/ Irish players. Which is slightly different because playing for England is like playing for Britain- Scotland/Ireland etc= First Class sides.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:02 a.m. CST

    chopper

    by chipps

    that is a good shot at the end. they are watching him on tv in his cell. they congratulate him, he is at the height of his popularity. then they leave the cell and the shot tracks out. he is alone

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Here's a more complete list (courtesy of The Guardian)

    by Lost Jarv

    although I don't think this is of any interest to the American CoCer's, this is the morning shift and it's an Englishman and an Aussie. We'll stop when they get back<P>Sir Pelham Francis Warner (born Port of Spain, Trinidad) Frederick Luther Fane (born County Kildare, Ireland Douglas Robert Jardine (born Bombay, India) Sir George Oswald Browning "Gubby" Allen, CBE (born, Australia) Frederick ("Freddie") Richard Brown MBE (born in Lima, Peru) Donald Bryce Carr (born Wiesbaden, Germany) Michael Colin Cowdrey, Baron Cowdrey of Tonbridge CBE (born Ootacamund, India) Edward Ralph "Ted" Dexter (born Milan, Italy) Anthony Robert (Tony) Lewis CBE (born Swansea, Wales) Michael Henry Denness (born North Lanarkshire, Scotland) Anthony "Tony" William Greig (Born Cape Province, South Africa) Allan Joseph Lamb (born Cape Province, South Africa) Nasser Hussain OBE (born Madras, India) Andrew John Strauss MBE, (born Johannesburg, South Africa)

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:04 a.m. CST

    That is a good shot in Chopper,

    by Lost Jarv

    also another great shot is the End of the Birds, and the end of Terminator.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST

    it's always funny

    by chipps

    to listen to tony greig talking about his days as england captain. the accent makes it gold

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    eureka!

    by chipps

    dr strangelove - weeeellll meet aaaggaaiinnn, don't know wheeerreee don't know wheeeen...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    With the South Africans

    by Lost Jarv

    we used to have an excuse for robbing them because of Apartheid, and Australia weren't exactly blame free. Nowadays we've no such excuse- although, ironically, Pietersen is more English than Strauss who was the other candidate this time. <P> It should still be Vaughan and the fucking coach should get his marching orders instead. I'd gut this fucking side- keep only Vaughan (I don't care if he's out of form- form is temporary, Class is permanent and he's worth 50 runs as captain), KP, Fred, Cook, and Broad and sack the rest. <p> I don't give a fuck about Bell-end's 199, he's got less spine than an amoeba, Collingwood is clearly past it, Ambrose (an Aussie) can't bat and it should be Read or Foster if your picking a keeper that can’t bat anyway, Anderson doesn't look where he's fucking bowling, Sidebottom is knackered, Strauss was never that good to begin with and is in even worse form than Vaughan. <P>I’d pick Shah and Key, make Vaughan open (his best place), play Fred at 6 Broad at 7 and bring back Jones and Grievous. <P>And that’s a winning fucking side. <P>I do not feel optimistic about today in the slightest.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Cricket talk!

    by Xiphos_2

    I don't understand one minute of that goofy sport but goddam it, I watch it whenever its on ESPN. Its like a narcotic, I can stop. Plus the vernacular of that particular activity cracks me up.<p>MOM is a cunt rag, BTW. An over used on at that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    oh, and Read at 8

    by Lost Jarv

    Done with cricket now. The humiliation starts again in 10 minutes unless this rain keeps up. Which may be our only fucking hope for a draw. <P>These Boks are going to worry you lot in December. They are fucking good.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST

    also

    by chipps

    citizen cane. can't go past godfather though. this one time, this one time i'll let you ask me about my affairs.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Morning Xi

    by Lost Jarv

    It's the last match of the international season starting today. England, who have been FUCKING HORRIBLE for about 2 years are going to complete their summer of misery by being thrashed AGAIN at home. <P>I'm so fucking cross and disappointed. I feel like pillows when talking about the mets.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Slightly left field suggestion

    by Lost Jarv

    But I seem to remember the last shot of Burton's Batman being great. But my memory could be playing tricks on me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Full Metal Jacket

    by Lost Jarv

    with the troops marching and singing- nothing's changed despite all that has gone before. <P>Kubrick was a genius.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:32 a.m. CST

    King Kong

    by Lost Jarv

    cracking finale, that one. And I don't mean Jackson' sbloated abortion of a movie. I do not want to see Kong Ice Skating, thanks Mr. Jackson. You twat.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:32 a.m. CST

    and obviously, Gone With The Wind

    by Lost Jarv

    Frankly, My dear, I don't give a damn.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Xiphos_2

    Yeah but with Pillow, the Mets ahve been a disappointment since 87, so two years is nothing. Look, Chicago Cubs fans have been hurting for nearly 100 years.<p>So which team is favored this season?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Xiphos_2

    Have you ever read the book Full Metal Jacket? If you have, the ending with the sqaud singing, takes on a whole different meaning. Verrrrrrrry different.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    I haven't read the book

    by Lost Jarv

    and the comparison to the Mets is a good one, because aside from 2 years 2003-2005 when we were probably the best in the world England have been a serious fucking disappointment since 1986

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:47 a.m. CST

    the british sports minister

    by chipps

    recently claimed that the uk's medal tally would be bigger than that of oz. the aussie sports minister is planning to reply in the typical aussie manner. by suggesting a wager.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Australia always, but SA catching fast

    by Lost Jarv

    Australia are aging, have lost some of the greatest players to ever play the game and just aren't as good as they used to be. SA are young, mean and have a bowling attack that can all swing the fucking ball round corners at 90mph+ <P>We'll find out in December, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Boks do the Aussies in Australia.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:51 a.m. CST

    He's a fucking idiot that guy.

    by Lost Jarv

    He must be on fucking crack. Swimming alone Australia will top every country outside of the US. Stupid bastard. <P>And from the Guardian- this sums up exactly how I feel about them: <P>"The overwhelming emotion is not anger or even frustration so much as a bittersweet sadness, like when you look in someone's eyes and recognise that you no longer love each other, and never well. And a showy, sexy frock imported from South Africa won't change that. Can't fight fate. Yet it's not even three years since September 12 2005, the day we swapped hearts for eternity. How did it come to this?"

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    I liked your post in that Religion thread, Chipps

    by Lost Jarv

    the thread itself bored me to tears, but the Irish Aussie one was funny

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    i look forward to some good cricket

    by chipps

    we've been play o/s a lot and it hasn't made it onto australian tv. the ashes will be awsome when they come around

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    lol

    by chipps

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5 a.m. CST

    Full Metal Jacket the Book

    by Xiphos_2

    For a book around 100 or so pages it packs a hell of a gut punch. Kubrick changed a lot of the story. It's more proof Kubrick is a genius, he was able to tell his own story and it was as good as the book, just different.<p>The book is good if you ever come across it, pick it up.<p>Anways, I'm off. We're moving! and its been suprisingly easy. Thank Xenu, but still a lot of work and the Navy chopper pilots are being snotty, in that particularly cunty Navy way. They must be related to MOM.<p>One other thing, when Pillow comes on line you can congradualte him because his beloved NY Jets just got a new, unheard of quarterback, named Brett Farve or maybe Far-Ver-Ra, not sure. Pillow should be a happy fellow today, more then usual with this news.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST

    i'll see you guys later

    by chipps

    enjoy the cricket

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Best of luck Xi.

    by Lost Jarv

    And the Ashes will be terrible unless we dramatically improve. Well, terrible for us- fucking good for you lot.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:09 a.m. CST

    It's looking up

    by Lost Jarv

    Good old Grievious has already hurt the South African Captain. Pinned him in the bollocks at 90mph. <P>I feel a bit more confident that we won't get gubbed if Grievious is in this kind of mood. He's a stroppy bastard.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Scratch that.

    by Lost Jarv

    Fucking useless cunts dropped a catch off him.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    I'm going to go and buy Watchmen at lunch

    by Lost Jarv

    I've never read it and am going to Spain next week so I'll read it there. <p>Hmm, all by myself again.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    A few questions...

    by Lost Jarv

    as I'm on my own. <P>Is it true that Marvel did something strange like SPidey selling his soul to the devil so Aunt MAy doesn't die of cancer and he's now divorced? A mate told me and this sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. <P>2)Hawaiin, Mrs Jarv was NFR last election so unable to vote (even postally), but she would rather fellate the rotting corpse of Reagan (I'm pretty certain he's been dead for 20 years) than vote for the current monkey.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Fuck's sake

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm on a one man mission to keep this top, it's hard.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Where is everyone?

    by Lost Jarv

    hmph. And it's raining.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    In other news

    by Lost Jarv

    Scrappy Doo found to be a cunt. A spokesman said "He can't help it, and everyone should have sympathy with what is obviously a debilitating personality disorder." World responds with massive indifference.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST

    was it you jarv

    by chipps

    who was talking about MOM quoting the wrong book name?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Yes.

    by Lost Jarv

    It is pertinant because he was being highly pretentious- and it wasn't a typo. It was a blunder. <P>Most other people I'd have let it slide.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:31 a.m. CST

    This is terrible

    by Lost Jarv

    SA now 55 for none. This is going to be a very long fucking day.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:32 a.m. CST

    OLEG LOVES YOU

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:32 a.m. CST

    anyway

    by chipps

    if so he did the same thing last night. he went into great detail about a book he clearly hadn't read as the passages he was talking about were in an entirely different book. This did not stop him talking about how well written it was though. Overall he was quite civil though so i don't really have a problem with him. i was just pointing it out.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Xi

    by just pillow talk

    I'm actually shocked at the news...I wasn't sure if they would get him or not. <p>Do you remember the last time the Jets had a QB that could actually throw the ball down the field? <p>I don't.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    hey jarv...what did you think of Lives of Others?

    by Jonah Echo

    good morning. I saw your Unbreakable rant. I hear where you are coming from, but it was hard to ruin the movie for me after that awesome scene where he is hanging off the guy's back in the rain slicker, trying to subdue him and the children helping him out of the pool

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by just pillow talk

    As long as your comparison of shitty disappointing teams is relegated to the past twenty years, the Mets are your team to compare to. They've been good some years, but most often than not...meh.<p>The NY Jets on the other hand...the gang green just suck really, really bad most of the time.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    which thread, chipps?

    by Lost Jarv

    I can't let him get away with such bollocks. If he was an innocent noob, he could be corrected politely and would possibly reform his cunty ways, but he's a well established asshole so needs beating. <P>You just wait till he tells you that all aussies are uneducated vermin only interested in sport and tossing shrimps on the barbie (chocolate sweetie for the first person that gets that reference). <P>He's a terrible, patronising, pompous, pretentious shitbag.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:37 a.m. CST

    I still love Unbreakable too

    by just pillow talk

    I love where he shows his kid the newspaper clipping at the breakfast table.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    I really, really liked The Lives of Others

    by Lost Jarv

    in fact, and I know this is a bit sacriligeous, I think it is better than Pan's Labrynth. How unusual that the 2 best films on the Oscar list that year were both in Foriegn films?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Oh, I'm not writing Unbreakable off altogether

    by Lost Jarv

    as I do still like most of it, but that ending really let the steam out of it's tires. It's comfortably the best thing Night has ever done.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:39 a.m. CST

    So instead of watching Heartbreak Kid....

    by just pillow talk

    We watched National Treasure 2. Nic makes me laugh.<p>And then I was watching Eight Below...I really like that movie (being a dog person and all).

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Woot!

    by Lost Jarv

    56 for 1. Getting better. <P>I do apologise for this and promise to stop soon.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    wow...that's a pretty hefty comparison Jarv

    by just pillow talk

    I can't wait to see Lives of Others now.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST

    most definitely the best Night has done

    by just pillow talk

    Easily the most re-watchable.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:42 a.m. CST

    hehehe.

    by Lost Jarv

    This is really funny and I thought I'd share it with you: <P>"It has always struck me as strange why all the best looking cartoon girls are red-heads? The delectable Daphne for one, April from the Turtles, Ariel the little mermaid, Jessica Rabbit… the list goes on. Any suggestions?" <P>That's from the Cricket commentary in The Guardian. How funny is that?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Pan's is truly excellent,

    by Lost Jarv

    but so is TLOL. 2 very, very good films. And this makes it even more laughable that Crash (not as bad as made out to be) won. I get that they aren't allowed in Best Film, but really- they were the best films. Same as City Of God in it's year.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    dirty netflix whores...

    by just pillow talk

    Took their time mailing out my next selections. I better receive Flash Point for this weekend, that's all I'm saying. No warning will be issued to Netflix if I don't receive it on time. The Pencil blitzkrieg will be upon them so fast they won't even be able to read the No. 2 on the pencils has they rain upon them.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Yea, I know what you mean Jarv..

    by Jonah Echo

    I think Pan's and Lives of Others are both classics, and both have characters fighting an oppressive regime and it's members who choose blind fealty over conscience. <p> Jarv, did you know that the main actor,Ulrich Muhe, who played the Stazi policeman, actually learned that his wife had been an informant who was spying on him during that time period? So, I guess it was rather personal film for him. <p> Sadly, Muhe passed away from stomach cancer(I think) shortly before or after the film won the Oscar. I don't recall.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Am I the only person that thinks the 6th Sense

    by Lost Jarv

    does not stand up to repeat viewings?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    correction..Muhue did make it to the Oscars

    by Jonah Echo

    to see TLOO win, and passed away in July of 2007. Last summer.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    no I didn't

    by Lost Jarv

    that makes it even better. Wow.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    nope, it doesn't stand up

    by just pillow talk

    I tend to lose interest pretty quickly with it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    that's horrible Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    Did he know he had the cancer before filming or was it all of a sudden?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Netflix

    by Lost Jarv

    look like a bastion of hope in a sea of shite compared to Lovefilm. At least they send you what you want and don't pick things that they think you want. And they have Army of Darkness.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    time for bed

    by chipps

    cause in australia it's dark. it took me a while to pick him up on it cause i was drunk and i went to be but it is the 'lapsed catholic' one. he was talking about josephus's references to jesus, which he was saying were in 'jewish war'. actually josephus wrote several books and the reference he is talking about was not in jewish war but in 'antiquities of the jews' anyway good night.<p>and final shots: fargo. that's two for the coens.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Yay. Rain Stopped Play

    by Lost Jarv

    If it can keep this up for the next Four Days then England may escape with a draw.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    showed by daughter Toy Story for the first time

    by just pillow talk

    yesterday. She watched the whole thing yelling "Daddy...toys!"<p>I forgot how much I really like that movie. I tell ya, I laughed out loud numerous times watching it. Like when Mr. Potato Head takes off his lips and holds them up to his ass...sigh...funny stuff.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Cheers Chipps,

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm not going to bother beating him up for that. I don't want to give that thread the numbers.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    that's still unbelievable that Lovefilm does that

    by just pillow talk

    I mean, fuck, I'd be so pissed.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST

    I think I'm the only person who doesn't like Fargo

    by just pillow talk

    The fucker puts me to sleep every time.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST

    New Topic.

    by Lost Jarv

    Sequels as good as, or better than, the Original. <P>I'm going to get rid of all the easy ones now: Empire Strikes Back, Godfather Part 2, French Connection 2. <P>And now controversially: Toy Story 2. Deeper meaning, better film.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST

    and when I saw this thread #1 this morning

    by just pillow talk

    I had to chuckle out loud.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    I don;t like fargo either

    by Lost Jarv

    The way they talk fucks me off. I know it is a superficial thing to get annoyed about, but it just seemed to me to be quirky for the sake of it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    there are no easy ones really...

    by just pillow talk

    While I prefer Empire, it built off of what was established in the first one. I can't rip anyone who says the first is the best.<p>See, for me, Aliens is better than Alien for me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    JPT

    by Jonah Echo

    I'm not sure if he did or not. I think it was after, but don't know. Anyway, he left behind a terrific movie. <P> Has anyone seen the Counterfeiters? Harry mistakenly said it won against Pan's, but it was actually this year's win. I never saw it though. <P> And Netflix just delivered Zebraman. Anyone see that?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:55 a.m. CST

    geez...what the hell did I just write?

    by just pillow talk

    See, for me, Aliens is better than Alien. <p>I don't need the fucking "for me" again. Fuck. Time for coffee.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    hmm...this sort of qualifies as a sequel...

    by just pillow talk

    I'm just looking at Ford's Jack Ryan, but I like Clear and Present Danger better than Patriot Games.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    sequel better than original: HOUSE II

    by Jonah Echo

    Seriously, how does it get better than mummified old-west grandpa, Aztec priestess hottie, giant caterpillar with the head of a Pug dog, baby pterodactyl, skeletal horse, John Ratzenberger as an electrician who keeps his sword in his toolbox, dinosaurs, and Bill Maher? HOW?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Aliens I accidentally left off the list

    by Lost Jarv

    it's an obvious one. <P>TDK as well, I suppose.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Evil Dead 2

    by Jonah Echo

    is better than the original.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Spidey 2, X-men 2 for me

    by just pillow talk

    continuing the superhero theme.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7 a.m. CST

    and Army of Darkness rules them all!

    by just pillow talk

    *cue evil laughter*

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7 a.m. CST

    fuck me.

    by Lost Jarv

    Some cheeky cunt is using my handle on the Guardian's sports blog. <P>Bastard.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Jason X

    by Lost Jarv

    hehehehe <P>Only joking. Although I don't hate Jason X and it has Cronenburg in it, which is something to recommend.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Jack Ryan

    by Lost Jarv

    Yes, but arguably Hunt For The Red October was the original and I reckon it's still easily the best.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Leprechaun in Space and Lep in Da Hood

    by Lost Jarv

    are both better than Leprechaun. <P>Sad but true. I think Lep in Da Hood is the best of the series.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones better than Menace..

    by Jonah Echo

    for what it's worth.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Having a concrete elephant stomp on your bollocks

    by Lost Jarv

    is better than attack of the clones though. <P>Seriously.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    The Good The Bad and The Ugly

    by Lost Jarv

    hmmm, not sure. Maybe. Depends on my mood.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST

    It was good

    by Dazzler69

    The Mecha at the end of Troopers 3 was like better new ones than Matrix 2 ones. I hope to see more. It even had a decent story.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    yeah, I don't like Clones either

    by just pillow talk

    Sith is the only one I'll watch again.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    shit...I almost forgot

    by just pillow talk

    and I ordered the damn thing: Road Warrior.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Wrath of Khan obviously

    by just pillow talk

    KKKKKHHHHHAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    and for me...

    by just pillow talk

    Austin Powers 2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    let's see...more comic book based movies

    by just pillow talk

    better than the first: Blade 2...Supes 2. Oh, and Hellboy 2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Road Warrior and Khan fine

    by Lost Jarv

    Austin Powers 2- No way.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    I prefer Blade 1 to Blade 2 and Superman 1 to Superman 2

    by Lost Jarv

    and Hellboy 3 isn't out yet. Which is annoying.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Helboy 3?

    by Lost Jarv

    WTF? obviously it isn't out yet, seeing as it doesn't exist. I meant Hellboy 2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Hellboy 3 may indeed be better than the second

    by just pillow talk

    considering the direction they are going..

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Quatermass 2

    by ThereWolf

    Always preferred the sequel to Experiment, Donlevy's a force of nature in it. Then Quatermass & The Pit came along and trumped them both. Could be in the minority with that one, though.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    I have no qualms with flip-flopping

    by just pillow talk

    The first two Blades and Austin Powers. To be frank, it really depends upon my mood. Since I recently just watched the second Blade, that's ingrained in my brain right now. <p>And I'm one of the few who isn't crazy about the original Superman. I'm sorry, but Superman needs super villains. And Kidder is fucking scary looking.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Fair enough.

    by Lost Jarv

    I actually maintain that not only is Wrath of Khan the best Star Trek movie, but it's also the only good one.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Queefer Bukake is back in the religion thread

    by Lost Jarv

    and I don't know if he has been meditating on some mountain somewhere, but he seems to have lost his rage. <P>Which is a shame. I don't want to read profound comments from him, I want undiluted psychosis. <P>I just popped in to bitchslap memories again. It is my duty.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Star Trek...

    by just pillow talk

    Star Trek is tough. I really loved the original show, but only #'s 2 and 6 movie-wise. And #2 is the only one that stands out.<p>I also used to watch TNG, and again, their only good movie is First Contact, numero dos. But of course that pails in comparison to Khan.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST

    what? Q has lost his way....

    by just pillow talk

    Let me post to him and try and shake him out of his doldrum.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Q may not respond since he appears to be

    by just pillow talk

    unavailable at the moment. One can only hope his anger will be focused upon his return.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    a religious talk and no mention of 2for2true?

    by just pillow talk

    For shame people, for shame.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Abom mentioned his conversion to the Changian faith

    by Lost Jarv

    Sensibly, as he knows the wrath of 2true would fall on his head if he didn't.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:51 a.m. CST

    They're very humourless in there

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm not going back, as I suspect what I've just done may be called trolling.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    HOD reporting in

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Jesus, that's a lot of good stuff going on up above. I swear, these TBs get more weight to them everyday.<p>I can't believe there's someone else that actually prefers Mr. Vengeance to Oldboy (and I effing love Oldboy).<p>Sixth Sense isn't as good the second time around, but I have a feeling it would hold up slightly better if you only watched it once every 7 or 8 years. You guys know me, I'm one of those spazatroids that gives M.Night no end of grief because I think he's incredibly gifted but wastes his talents on his poor scripts and inflated ego. And Unbreakable mostly had me up until the third act.<p>I can't believe Favre went to the Jets. This news is almost as shocking to me as Beckham signing with the Galaxy (I wonder if that came as no surprise to the Brits who understand Becks a lot more than we do).<p>Full Metal Jacket. Wasn't the novella it was based on called something like The Short Timers? Here's a little known fact. Michael Herr who was a war correspondent in Vietnam wrote a book based on his experiences called Dispatches. Parts of Apocalypse Now and FMJ have been lifted from Dispatches, namely his one-time meetings with the odd grunt that was beyond surreal (the GI in ApocNow with the grenade launcher who hits the VC over the wall taunting him and the helicopter gunner in FMJ who is shooting farmers in the rice paddies).<p>The movie endings above? Nice. The Godfather is the fanboy cliche choice but that's because it truly is the best choice. Not only best ending ever but one of the best movie shots ever. A close second would be, yes, Dr. Strangelove with Peter Sellers jumping out of the wheelchair before the Doomsday device goes off.<p>Prison Break? Looks like Jarv and I are in agreement again (3 for 3 this morning) as the first season was great. But season two lost me, especially the hillbilly's character and the inability of the other escapees to just kill him and his odd ability to be able to kill people with only one good hand.<p>I don't think any sequels that were better than the original were missed above.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Beckham going to the Galaxy was not a shock

    by Lost Jarv

    No-one here wanted him for the money he wanted, his talentless dog of a wife wants to break into Hollywood. <P>They'll be Scientologists before his contract with Galaxy expires. I'll bet 1 million internets on it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    I flip flop on Blade 1 & 2 as well

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Whichever one I recently watched is my favorite.<p>I suppose it's sacrilegious to Changian beliefs to announce your affinity for Star Trek 4. "Do you guys like Italian?" scene cracks me up everytime.<p>It's my daughter's third birthday today and she jumped out of bed at the crack of dawn and bolted to her DVD shelf and grabbed Monsters, Inc. and said "Daddy, I won't be scared of the monsters this time." What an awesome way to start a day.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Star Trek 4

    by Lost Jarv

    is nearly so bad it's good- there's lots of quotable stuff in it, and it's gloriously po faced. <P>The whole premise of having to get a humback whale to save the planet is hysterical in itself.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Good Old Grievious Bodily Harmison

    by Lost Jarv

    2 in an over. They're now down to 103 for 3. <P>Maybe this won't be such a disaster. <P>I do promise to stop this soon.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Bugs = Terrorists

    by Sithdan

    Starship Troopers (the original) was prophetic as hell. I can't believe all the paralles between the war against the Bugs and the current war in Iraq. It's pretty scary!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Blade 2 the best

    by Series7

    There is no contest. Added with Harry's review, its unbeatable. The only thing Blade 1 did better was have a slightly better techno song, though the Cystal Methods song was pretty damn good. But the whole rap/techno mix soundtrack not so much.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Good Morning All

    by toadkillerdog

    I have a topic - Bad Nic cage movies! - Er, too easy let me change that. Name the few GOOD Nic Cage movies. <p> 1) Raising Arizona

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    I'm glad you're here to point that out Sithdan

    by Lost Jarv

    we all completely missed it. <P>In other news: Standing in the Rain makes you wet.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Con Air.

    by Lost Jarv

    It's good. I swear. <P>Wicker Man Remake has awfulness value. <P>Leaving Las Vegas?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST

    See? Not as easy as you think

    by toadkillerdog

    Fast Times at Ridgemont high. yep, he was in that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Things Blade 1 did better:

    by Lost Jarv

    1)"Some Motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill" <P>2)Final Fight with Frost <P>3)Soundtrack

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    I hate Face/off

    by Lost Jarv

    So not that. Bollocks, I'm going to IMDB to check. There must be something.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    There is quite a lot actually

    by Lost Jarv

    Wild at Heart, The Rock, Red Rock West, Adaptation, Raising Arizona, Con Air, 8MM, Bringing out the dead. <P>It's just when he's in a bad film it's reaaaaaally bad. <P>An alternative question might be films in which Nicholas Cage has not sucked. That's a shorter list.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    In the original film,

    by Jonah Echo

    and yes I'm not citing this as some epiphany, weren't the bugs and troopers presented more along the lines of cowboys and indians or brit colonials and tribesman. The siege on the base is very like Zulu, and towards the end of ST, Van Dien does an almost John Waynian drawl as he says "Must be some kind'a big smart bug. <P> In any case, it was a force encroaching upon a presumably primitive and inferior race, and then proclaiming their enemy evil after retaliation. <P> The cowboys and indians thing worked well enough for me. The terrorists reading isn't as good, and kind of contemporary knee-jerk. <P> However, it's entirely likely the new film may go that way. I think it's more of a historically relevant view, than just relegated to the last ten or 15 years of contemporary events.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    The dialogue in ST4 is the reason I enjoy it

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    "Double dumb ass on you!"<p>The story itself is goofy to the point of being distracting but the banter makes it worth watching again and again.<p>Is there anyone who finds Victoria Beckham attractive? I thought she was a scag since day one.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Morning Toad...remember

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    NEIGH MEANS NEIGH!!!<p> Booooyahhh!!!<p> Only down 4-2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    HOD, ST4 is a good movie..

    by Jonah Echo

    I find it a gentle and entertaining film, with lots of humor and a lighter touch, but not completely vapid. I think there is alot there, and it's all handled well. It falls into my top four of Star Trek films. It is dated to a very specific time, but it's a lovely little time capsule.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Cage was okay in The Rock

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    But have to agree on Raising Arizona as my favorite.<p> "Boy you got a pantyhose on your head."

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I had to check IMDB as well

    by toadkillerdog

    Cotton Club - I loved that movie. But it was Gere's really.<p> Moonstruck. He was good and Cher was tolerable.<p> 8MM

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    But no one knew that in 1997

    by Sithdan

    Back in 1997 no one knew that. A lot of people wrote Starship Troopers off as some special effects laden B-movie. But now audiences have gone back to re-evaluate it due to these unstable times.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Captian Corelli's Mandalin

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Worst accent ever in the history of cinema?<p> Even the fake southern accents by the kids on little Forrest Gump's bus were that bad.<p> "Can't sit here...seat's taken."<p> Geez, even people in the South laughed at how bad they were.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    If you go and read Harry's original review

    by Jonah Echo

    and several at the time, they all make the references- I think Harry might even have shared my cowboys and indians view. I'm not someone who finds Starship Troopers terribly precient, or even terribly witty, but it was basically a smarter than it needed to be creature flick. <P> I don't really find it anymore culturally relevant in this turbulent time than in the perceptually less turbulent climate of 1997. <p> But, Im still looking forward to ST3.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage attended the Harrison Ford School

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    of signing on to garbage projects.<p>I actually think he was better in Raising Arizona than Leaving Las Vegas. And Danny is probably the only one here who will back me up on his turn in The Family Guy.<p>Face/Off didn't age well at all for me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Snake Eyes was the only

    by Sithdan

    "bad" Nick Cage movie, in my opinion. Face/Off, on the other hand, was a frickin' masterpiece. And BTW, to all those who loved that new movie Rogue, go rent Black Water instead. It blows Rogue out of the water, literally.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    It's in the extras- I think

    by Lost Jarv

    I haven't seen the extras but I remember someone bringing it up. Anyway Verhoeven said that's what it is about. It wasn't subtle- "Arachni" Sounds an awful lot like "Iraqi" for example. <P>This shit always comes up

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    no, no, no

    by Lost Jarv

    Worst Accents of all time: <P>Kevin Costner in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves and Keanu Reeves in Dracula. And Sean Connery in anything that isn't Scottish (Russian Submarine commander? Spanish/ Japanese immortal) I know these have been parodied endlessly, but there is a reason.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST

    right, Jarv, it wasn't subtle..

    by Jonah Echo

    and it was mostly there to make the movie something of a spoof of the Heinlein novel. Heinlein's work was sincere. He was a saber rattler for sure. They would have done well to handle his story more straightforward, without the parallels. I think he would have had a far more relevant movie as a result. <P> Starship Troopers is a big budget B movie. Nothing more or nothing less, and it's not really something to be ashamed of. Robocop in concept is just a B movie, but what they did with it was so much more.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Hah - ok Chitty I see how it is going

    by toadkillerdog

    I was going to propose a rule that neither one of us can launch a Neigh means Neigh as the first post - that you must at least post something else first. But, if you want to go by the Clouseau/Kato rules - all out Neigh means Neigh war, with no rules. Then, have at it! Regardless, since no rules were in place, you got me. My lead is now 4-2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    *whispering quietly*

    by Lost Jarv

    I quite like Snake Eyes, but I do think the big mistake they made with it is the same one as Ransom. As soon as you cast Gary Sinese there is no doubt as to who the villain is. It flattens things a bit, and he always gives the same performance

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    watch the Rogue trailer...

    by Jonah Echo

    and Rhada Mitchell's aussie accent. Oh wait...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    I like Starship Troopers

    by Lost Jarv

    as a big budget B-movie with a bit of smarts. I think it's good. <P>I'm not saying it was genius or prescience or anything, and subtle it was not (I nearly choked on my coke when Doogie Howser turned up dressed as Goering). I'm not knocking it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Jarv, Bringing out the Dead - was the only movie I almost walked

    by toadkillerdog

    It was that awful. Just a pitiful excuse of a movie

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    I've not seen it.

    by Lost Jarv

    I made the assumption that it was quiet good because it was Scorcese. <P>Silly of me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Yea, I think the biggest influence

    by Jonah Echo

    on Starship Troopers wasn't Heinlein, or Iraq or 60s westerns. I think it was Archie and Jughead comics. And yea, that's been mentioned before. Verhoeven's work isn't about subtle homage. It's like grabbing a bunch of choice ingredients, leaving them in big hunks and then stirring them into a swirling broth of his own making.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Loved Bringing Out the Dead..

    by Jonah Echo

    Sorry Toad, but I did. It's a strange one for sure, and something of a fever dream, but I really liked it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Did Costner even HAVE an accent?

    by Sithdan

    I don't remember him even trying to use an English accent in Robbin Hood. He also had a real shitty Boston accent in the movie Thirteen Days.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    that boston one in 13 days was AWFUL

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    cor this is much better

    by Lost Jarv

    they're 5 down now. Pity we've already lost the series. <P>Can someone answer me this- in Baseball, say, when you have best of 7 series, if there is a result by Game 4 do they just not play the other 3 games?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Yes, he started trying one,

    by Lost Jarv

    but lost it after about 10 minutes. It was embarrasing.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Costner's pretty awful full stop

    by Lost Jarv

    Here's a topic: Good Kevin Costner Films: <P>I'm having Sizzle Beach USA. <P>JFK is passable,

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Well Jonah, you did like HB2! Hah!

    by toadkillerdog

    We have different tastes on some things! Good, keeps the TB's active.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    If it is 4 zip in baseball, the series is over. They do not play the last 3 ganes.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    new topic...worst and best take on classic characters?

    by Jonah Echo

    For example: Best Robin Hood was Adventures of Robin Hood with Errol Flynn. The worst is probably the Patrick Bergin/Uma Thurman one. Even the Costner crap-heap had Rickman and Freeman doing thier usual high-end work. Rickman was having a grand time.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Best Tarzan

    by Jonah Echo

    is strangely, and I almost wince saying this, Chris Lambert in Greystoke. Worst: c'mon baby, while some might say Miles O'Keefe we know it's everyone's favorite trooper Casper Van Dien.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Ironic Thing about Costners Hood

    by toadkillerdog

    Costner and Connery have the worst accents. BUt I swear, when Connery unexpectedly showed up as the King at the end of the movie, the entire theatre I was in screamed Sean! It was awesome. That is the type of spontaneous movie going experience that you just can not get at home watching it on big screen.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Cheers TKD

    by Lost Jarv

    I've always wondered about that. Do they just refund the people that have paid in advance?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Snake Eyes was good?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    You know, I can't remember. Saw it just the one time. I do vaguely recollect a neat long shot at the beginning but that's it.<p>I don't care that Costner's accent in Thirteen Days was horrible. That movie was fantastic. Bruce Greenwood and Dylan Baker need more work.<p>Speaking of Gary Sinese and Forest Gump, the other day we were listing effects shots that knocked us on our ass the first time we saw them. Regardless if you hate the movie, everyone here must admit seeing Sinese without his legs was the ultimate "how did they do that?" moment.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Casper Van Diem's Tarzan

    by Lost Jarv

    was a Career killer. He was just wrong on every level. <P>Dracula- the best has to be the one and only Christopher Lee and the Worst is probably that dick in Van Helsing. Or Gerard Butler. <P>Looking into that I've just discovered a Spanish film called Killer Barbys v Dracula that I have to see. How awful!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Robin Hood hate? Fuck.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What a horrible thing to wake up to. Again, I have no idea how people can not love this movie. Costner's accent? Awwwww fuck me. That film is about as tough as Robin Hood will ever get. I'll watch anything directed by Kevin Reynolds....speaking of which, what the fuck is he doing?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    3 for 15 dvd sale..

    by Jonah Echo

    over at deep discount they have several movies we have discussed here, being sold, 3 for 15. Blind Fury, Once Upon a Time in China 1-3, The Tingler, 976 Evil, etc. <p> http://www.deepdiscount.com/DVD---Sony-3-DVDs-for--15-8-4_stcVVcatId519270VVviewcat.htm?promoCode=B3CH0808

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    the worst accent has not been mentioned yet....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    It was totally Keanu in Devil's Advocate.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Fucking Hate Forrest Gump with a vengeance

    by Lost Jarv

    Revolting shit. If it had been made by the Nazis everyone would be screaming PROPAGANDA... <P>And why give the only character that dares to not conform AIDS? It's the most revolting "message" film ever. <P>And don't get me started on the latent misogynism, Tom Hanks' shitty (and inexplicably Oscar Winning) performance, the sheer fucking boredom of lots of it. <P>Yuck. How it beat Pulp Fiction is one of life's mysteries.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Open Range and Dances as good Costner films?!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    No love? FUCK!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    As far as I know, they only sell tickets up to the fourth game. If the series is going to extend beyond that they sell the tickets on a game by game basis. I've never had the pleasure of attending a playoff series in any sport so I can't say for sure.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    or Keanu in Much Ado About Nothing

    by Lost Jarv

    note to future Directors: <P>If the Words "William Shakespeare" appear anywhere in your treatment/ script DO NOT under any circumstances cast Keanu Reeves.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Dracula has alot of greats..

    by Jonah Echo

    and alot of bad ones. I'd agree though, Roxborough's channeling of K.D.Lang and Bono was waaay not right. <P> Loved Langella's take on Drac, thought Palance was a funny Drac, and let's give Oldman credit for giving an awesome take. In fact, all others be damned, Im saying Gary Oldman was the best Dracula.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    No Way Out is quite a good film

    by Lost Jarv

    and that's Costner.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Lugosi and Lee though

    by Jonah Echo

    will always be the owners of the role though. I give them great credit for what they did.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Danny, I do not hate Costner's Robin Hood

    by toadkillerdog

    I enjoyed it. No one here said they hated it. But the topic was bad accents. And his was the worst.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Open Range is masterful..

    by Jonah Echo

    and Dances with Wolves is a great movie, if overrated. A Perfect World was also a decent Costner flick. And though it doesn't have many fans, I always enjoyed The War.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Cushing, Price, Lee, Oldman,

    by Lost Jarv

    there have been lots of great ones. I still stand by Roxborough as the worst.<P>I think Dracula is the most performed role in Cinema. I'd have to check though.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Coppola's Dracula is an amazing film...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The sets are fucking terrifying. The music is incredible, the creatures are great, wolfman fucking-- awesome, Gary Oldman as Jim Morrison Dracula-- fucking awesome, blood pouring from a cross-- fucking awesome, heavy use of obvious miniatures-- fucking awesome. I love that entire film. And it still scares the piss out of me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes, you can get a refund on the tickets if you bought them in advance from reputable dealer. But if you scalped them, then you are SOL. Some people hold on to them, just for the sake of saying they had tickets.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Prince of Thieves is a fun movie

    by Jonah Echo

    but it's sort of a good bad movie for me. It's got some good stuff bout it for sure. Costner is one of them though.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Oops, slip of the keyboard

    by Lost Jarv

    I was going to nominate Cushing as best Van Helsing and Wolverine as the worst, and combined 2 posts. <P>I'd also like to nominate Deniro as worst EVER Frankenstein's monster.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Holmes is also pretty saturated..

    by Jonah Echo

    Best: Rathbone. Worst: hmm, purposefully so, wouldn't that be Michael Caine in Without a Clue.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Draculas

    by Sithdan

    Oldman WAS a great Dracula; he really gave that role his all. But I'm biased toward Bela Lugosi's iconic portrayal of the count. I've heard good things about Jack Palance's Dracula, but I've never seen that version. Is it even available on DVD? I hear Richard "I Am Legend" Matheson penned the script.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Cheers guys.

    by Lost Jarv

    And reasons Dracula is not a great movie: <P>Keanu Reeves,<P>Sadie Frost<P>Keanu Reeves (So bad I had to mention him twice), <P>Overlong and dull <P>Keanu Reeves.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Worst Frankenstein monster

    by Jonah Echo

    still has to go to Van Helsing. The monster looked mentally handicapped. Wierd version that sort of worked: Randy Quaid as the monster. Best: c'mon, no discussion. KARLOFF.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Holmes,

    by Lost Jarv

    I always liked Jeremy Brett. And I'm afraid this is another one for Mr Roxborough. The dude is feckin' awful.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    also let's give Tom Noonan

    by Jonah Echo

    some love for his take in Monster Squad. "Bogus!"

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Yeah Jarv it depends

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Some sell ticket packages for first four games and then your also first in line for the rest of the series.<p> I have seen total packages for the entire series, at least not on a major sport lever.<p> I know when I went to the Final Four, we got tickets for the entire event. So if your team lost, you had to watch the other teams.<p> Or *cough* you could sell them to rabid Kentucky fans *cough*<p>

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Relax Danny boy

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I love Open Range and Dances With Wolves and will put them on a top 20 best western list any day.<p>Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves is one of those movies that has a lot of bad but also a lot of good going for it. Rickman and Freeman overcome Costner's accent and a less than stellar performance by Slater. Plus, the summer it came out was one of those awesome summers you endlessly reminisce about and makes everything associated with it that much better: starting out in college, mad in love with your girlfriend at the time, discovering the Nintendo with your buds and drinking beer around a campfire on the beach. Summer of '91. Good times.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Karloff= Best Frankenstein Monster EVER

    by Lost Jarv

    no arguments there.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Worst/best Moriarty?

    by Jonah Echo

    Best: I don't know, but I'll always loved the version on Star Trek: Next Generation. Worst: Mr. Roxborough stand up for a THIRD time.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Yes, Jonah. Van Helsing Frank was worst of all time

    by toadkillerdog

    A whiny bitch of a monster. Crying? Frankenstein crying -and not tears of joy like Karloff could pull off, but crying like a two year old? And he was, uh, how shall I put it, a tad bit effeminate as well. Just a putrid Frankenstein. Ruined whole movie for me, and it was not a great movie to begin with either.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I was just curious

    by Lost Jarv

    because although England can't win the series now, they are playing this dead rubber. But it's a revenue raising thing for the Ground- so I wondered if it was the same in the US.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    How does that man have a career?

    by Lost Jarv

    Has he not sucked in anything?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    The problem I have with the '92 Dracula

    by Sithdan

    I really didn't like seeing a "sympathetic" count. I'd rather see the cold-blooded, mass-murdering, plague-inducing badass he was in the original novel. I don't want to be left feeling sorry for Dracula after Van Helsing impales him. That sort of mitigated the enjoyment of the Coppola Dracula film for me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I liked Branagh's Frankenstein a lot....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    It is the best adaptation of the book by far. And I think Bobby D. played the character well. He is not an innocent character. He is fixed on revenge from the time he is created.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Agree on Deniro's Frankenstein

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Did not enjoy it at all.<p> Always wished Kevin Peter Hall could have played him.<p> He was my favorite tall person monster actor by far.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Christ, what a CV

    by Lost Jarv

    Van Helsing, LXG, MI2, Moulin Rouge (I know some people liked it but he was shit), <P>The man's name is a byword for crap.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Wait...who do you speak of being involved in all those?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Roxborough

    by Lost Jarv

    and I missed off Stealth.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Sithdan

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thats interesting about Dracula. Thats exactly what I loved about that film...the fact that he became a real person with real emotions, not just a mindless killing machine.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Jarv, playing out series also a moral boost

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    If a team is down 4-0 and they keep playing and win the next three, then it goes into the history books as a 4-3 series loss, which at least looks better.<p> Team can also redeem themselves by at least making it close.<p> But on the other hand, they can also get skunked 7-0 in the series and reaaallly feel bad about themselves.<p> But as you said it is mostly about revenue.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Roxborough

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Oh....I think he's good in all those except Van Helsing. Definitely Moulin....he tears it up in that shit.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    So who watched what, if anything last night?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    We know about Lives of Others, Unbreakable and Dodgeball, anyone else?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    no...I feel asleep at 9:00. :(

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I can't fucking believe we will top 1,000 today...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Agree with Danny, liked feeling bad for Drac

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Maybe because I always pictured and saw him as a mindless killing machine.<p> It was fun to see a different side for a change.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Met Karloff's daughter in Tennessee of all places

    by Sithdan

    Had a nice little discussion of her late father's work. I ran into her in Red Boiling Springs, Tennessee of all the random places. Boris fucking Karloff's daughter. Nevertheless, it was still cool hearing all her anecdotal stories about the Man himself.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    and what the fuck is up with that Bond theme song?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I got all excited when I saw the heading. It was one of the few topics in about a week, that interested me enough to read more. And its some fucking joke song?!! CUNTS!! ALL OF YOU!! CUNTS!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    He was woeful in LXG

    by Lost Jarv

    really, really dire. Didn't look like he could fight, I was never convinced he was a genius. Yuck. <P>MI2 to be fair, I thought he wasn't bad, and The Duke in Moulin Rouge is a bad part, but the man's CV is awful.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Watched Scare Tactics

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    A guy thought he was about to die in a room filling with gas.<p> He tried to kick through a wall to get out and spouted this gem into the walkie-talkie "There's a malfunction bro!!"<p>

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    re: Dracula

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I think thats probably why I always felt Dracula was the weakest of the classic Universal monster films. There is really no story there for me......he is a vampire. Okay...he's creepy and sucks your blood. I just felt there should be more about him, where he came from, why he is what he is-- all that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    The League is another film I adore that everyone hates....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    It makes me feel like a giddy child every time I watch it. Its just unapologetic ally fun. And Connery kicks ten times more ass than Harrison in Indy IV.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Dracula

    by Sithdan

    Well, the same could be said about Michael Myers and the more recent incarnation of the Joker. We don't know anything about them, where they came from (aside from a brief backstory about Michael), and that makes them more terrifying. It's the fear of the unknown. I know when Michael was given a more in-depth origin in the Rob Zombie remake, it was critically panned. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Maybe I should re-watch the '92 Dracula. Some movies get better with age.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    It's a fine line

    by Lost Jarv

    Some Characters do better without a backstory (Myers leaping to mind), but with some it helps flesh them out. Especially Dracula- seeing as the novel gives really quite a lot of info and the 92 Dracula followed it faithfully.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Danny, you really do sit on the lonely side

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    of the fence. Good on you for sticking to your guns.<p>My problem, other than being an idiot, is that I only see a lot of movies once. I saw Moulin Rogue in the theater, remember really enjoying it, but now I can't tell you anything about it. Hell, I don't even remember what character Roxborough played.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Danny,everyone, Shia is gone..

    by Jonah Echo

    or at least his pinky is...maybe. Michael Bay is trying to find a way to write in the potentially missing digit into Transformers 2.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    LXG was woeful

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm sorry Danny, but it really was. Shoehorning in Tom Sawyer was so obviously a marketing decision. <P>Sean did kick some ass in it, but Mr Hyde was dismal (probably the worst ever on screen), Sean and Tom Sawyer bonding made me squirm, Nemo was also embarrasing. <P>No, really not a good film at all.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Mike Myers and Joker....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah...but those are totally different. Michael Myers is just that-- a mindless killer. And I dont really give a shit about learning anything more about him. And the Joker is meant to represent mindless violence just for the sake of fucking shit up, so he needs no back-story and the lack of an origin makes him more intimidating because he just pops up out of nowhere and you have no idea what his motives are. Dracula is a romantic character. We should feel for him. He is not a monster, he is a cursed individual that hates himself for what he has become.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    I don't remember a sympathetic count

    by Sithdan

    in the Stoker novel. As a matter of fact, the Dracula character was hardly in it, if I recall.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Fucking hated Moulin Rouge as well

    by Lost Jarv

    my problem with it, is that if you're going to tell me in the first seconds of a movie that one of the lead characters dies then I'd better give a shit about him/ her. And I really didn't care if Kidman lived or died.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    He wasn't sympathetic

    by Lost Jarv

    but there was lots of him- especially with Mina.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Really? You didn't like Hyde. I understand the hate on Sawyer.....but Hyde? Man, I thought that was the most fantastic combination of practical suit/CG for a humanoid type character. I wish they did something similar for the Hulk. Use an actor in a large suit for close-ups and CG just for the wides. I thought he worked great. And I like the guy that played him. And its the first time Nemo is ever shown in his intended nationality I believe. And Dorian Gray was awesome too. Stuart Townsend was perfect in the role. The only one I didnt really like was Mina....just because I thought she could have been a lot hotter.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I forgive LXG myself

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    It's probably a dreadful movie and many of the effects are inexcusably bad, but it's Connery's last role and I still love the suit they created for Mr. Hyde.<p>There's a new topic. What mainstream movie do you keep blinders on for even though you know deep down the movie is grade A crap but there's something about it worth redeeming to you?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    How bout Hercule Poirot?

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Dorian Grey was awesome

    by Lost Jarv

    and an intelligent use of the character. It wasn't so much Nemo's nationality that was insulting, just the performance- it was the Indian equivalent of Nicholas Cage's Gotta lotta pasta accent in Captain Corelli. <P>With Hyde- first time was good, and the mix of suit/ CGI was a good idea, but they nobbed it completely with the Uberhyde at the end and the design with the hunchback was just horrible. <P>I like Jason Flemyng and have done ever since Lock Stock, but the "good show Edward" nonsense in it was him phoning in a performance.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    fave Quartermain

    by Jonah Echo

    was Stewart Granger, though Connery was awesome(in a bad movie). Worst: I'll assume it's the guy in that new Indy ripoff sci-fi channel thing, but as far as ones Ive seen, Patrick Swayze.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    LXG isn't a completely lost cause

    by Lost Jarv

    and much of it makes me giggle. But I'm always laughing at it, not with it. <P>Best Poirot- Easy: David Suchet. I don't know if you get them, but British TV does Poirot a lot and he is now pretty much definitive. He's better than Ustinov.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah but.....Naseeruddin Shah, the dude that played Nemo is a superstar in India. Its not like that was a fake, put on accent.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You have a very good memory.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    HOD..great topic.

    by Jonah Echo

    At the time it came out, that movie I kept blinders on for was Starship Troopers. <p> Others, let me think.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    My forgivable movie that I get slated for all the time

    by Lost Jarv

    Species. <P>I know it's crap, and I know the alien/ monster is Geiger lazily copying his own design, and I know that Forrest Whittaker only exists in that film to state the obvious, Ben Kingsley was crap and Madsen channelled Mr. Blonde (again), but.... <P>I don't care. Natasha Henstridge gets naked, shags Alfred Molina and although the monster is a rip off it's still cool. <P>I am very, very sad.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    BAD MOVIE I PUT BLINDERS ON FOR: XXX

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I despised all things Vin until Riddick. Then I went back and watched Pitch Black for the first time......then I gave everything else he has done a shot. Except Fast and the Furious....fuck that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I love the third Pirates movie

    by Jonah Echo

    despite the fact everyone says it's crap, and I can see it's flaws, but I just don't care very much. <P> Same is true for The Relic. I love The Relic. <p> And I really enjoy Transformers even though every time we see each other, it walks up and takes a dump on the thinking part of my brain.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Cheers Danny

    by Lost Jarv

    I read somewhere that he hammed up his natural accent for it. If that isn't true then I stand corrected. <P>Also, nerdily, there's no reason why Nemo had to be native Indian. With his resources etc at the time he would more likely be a white English colonial asshat. <P>But that's just pedantry.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Alfred Molina shagging anyone? Eeewwww....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I have quite a few actually,

    by Lost Jarv

    But there are some that people apologise for endlessly and I don't see how they can. <p>I've used one of mine further up- Con Air. Again, I know it's a bad film, but dammit...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Ghost and the Darkness is another one..

    by Jonah Echo

    I often get slammed for. <p> The Man in the Iron Mask, the 98 version. <p> Thirteenth Floor. <P>

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    big one for me...The Brothers Grimm

    by Jonah Echo

    It ain't perfect, but I like it. I do.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Ghost and the Darkness is an awesome film....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    No blinders needed, HOD agrees with that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Blinders were on for The Lost World and Godzilla

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Yeah it wasn't Speilberg's best, but it had DINOSAURS IN IT!<p> I forgive alot for a creature feature, which includes Emmerich's Godzilla. I still watch it once in a while.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Anaconda is another one..

    by Jonah Echo

    Wow. I have alot of these. I still see it as a clever homage, but most people tell me it's just moronic.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    It's even more minging

    by Lost Jarv

    because she's riding him like a pony and has tentacles growing out of her back that he can't see. <P>She then says she's pregnant and he waffles on with the most laughable social-antropology bollocks. Then she kills him. <P>It's funny stuff. <P>Species 2 on the other hand= Rubbish, <P>Apparently there's a species 3.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Brothers Grimm is hilarious....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I just watched it a few months back when I had friends over for a Heath Ledger Tribute Marathon.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Hudson Hawk

    by toadkillerdog

    Goofy fun movie, that very few liked, but I do not care!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Hey! I like 13th floor

    by Lost Jarv

    pah. <P>Anaconda has John Voight leering at J-Lo's jubblies. Which is funny. <P>Lost World is inexcusable. If it wasn't for hook then it would be Spielberg's worst. <P>

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    And who hates The Ghost and the Darkness

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I thought that was a good film. I watch everytime it is on.<p> That scene where his wife gets attacked shocked the hell out of me the first time I saw it.<p> I love creature movies that actually happened or could happen like Croc movies or Jurassic Park.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Fast and The Furious= POint Break with cars

    by Lost Jarv

    and yet somehow fails to be good.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    true case of blinders...

    by Jonah Echo

    for me is Jackson's Kong. I know most don't actually hate it, but I just cannot understand not LOVING it. I wouldnt make it shorter. I loved the extended cut. I didnt have any issues with it. None. It's a great, great movie to me. I watch it often.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Hook?!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Oh you dirty bastard....

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST

    I'm on Ghost and Darkness love as well

    by Lost Jarv

    no argument there. It's just good.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Transformers is a MASTERPIECE

    by Sithdan

    ...compared to the Transmorphers.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    I hated Brothers Grimm

    by Series7

    I just thought it was really boring, I mean I've always thought the two leads were boring actors to begin with as well. <P> Love me some Anaconda, that movie rules.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    To be fair,

    by Lost Jarv

    I haven't seen Hook in about 12 years. I seem to remember Julia Roberts sucking like a dyson, Dustin Hoffman and Bob Hoskins being hammier than a herd of pigs, RObin Williams sucking and Children so sickly-sweet they could induce diabetes. I am prepared to be wrong on it, though.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Anaconda 2 is not good however,

    by Lost Jarv

    it should be gold, but it isn't.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    wow..people don't hate Ghost and the Darkness

    by Jonah Echo

    I hear it get ripped often by "film elitists". But, I had a vhs of that flick I just about wore out, I saw it at the theater twice, and bought it on dvd last summer. <P> Ready for one, I doubt many can condone. Screamers with Peter Weller. Think it's a cool little movie.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yes but you forgot to mention Dustin is a fucking GOD as Hook.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    and now I've thought about it,

    by Lost Jarv

    it isn't Spielberg's worst. It is one of his worst, though.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Yes, but he's overdone

    by Lost Jarv

    It's pantomime Dame stuff. If he'd just toned it down a notch or 2. And he wasn't helped by Hoskins gurning like a chimp next to him.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Screamers is good

    by Lost Jarv

    it was on telly the other night. Loved it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    the overacting is fine to me

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Because its not the real world. Its a make believe world that exists in the minds of children. It should be theatrical and over the top. On the flip side of that, I thought Jason Isaacs was far too flat and ordinary to be Hook. He was the same fucking character in Potter, just with a different colored whig!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    you liked Screamers Jarv?

    by Jonah Echo

    good for you. I think Weller is Robocop-level good in that movie. A story about a sad, disenfranchised man fighting against being obsolete. And it has killer robot saws in it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Island of Dr. Moreau

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Love that crazy fucking movie. Brando, Kilmer, Thewlis.....they all bring the goods in this one. And Perlman as that "Sayer of the Law," guy. Fucking great.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Anything with killer Robot Saws in it is good for me

    by Lost Jarv

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by Series7

    I really liked the new Kong as well. Like its probably one of my favorite movies ever. Shit you could list all of Jacksons movies outside of LOTR and I could say those are my favorite movies.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    O.k, Danny, I was gonna play nice with HOOK today..

    by Jonah Echo

    but you just leveled the guns against Isaacs. Isaacs Hook was the best to date, because he actually played to the children. Hoffman's Hook was a prancing queen, who picked the most obvious, high-pitched note for Hook he could. Isaacs actually seemed like the kind of villain a child could hate-one that was equal parts jealous rival, and potential parental unit.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    As I said,

    by Lost Jarv

    it's been a long time since I saw it, so it probably warrants a rewatching, I'm really referring to impressions left with me and memories. I can't give specifics on Hook and wouldn't try.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Anacondas 2

    by Series7

    I actually enjoyed it. How can you hate a film with a Snake orgy scene in it?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Lost In Space

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I enjoyed this film. Its fun family fare. And no matter what anyone says, they created the effect Matrix took credit for, lining up hundreds of cameras in a circle around an actor to capture a single frame down the line so the actor is seemingly suspended in mid-air as we sweep around him/her. Lost In Space gets no fucking credit for this.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Jackson's best movie

    by Lost Jarv

    Bad Taste. If you haven't seen it I thoroughly recommend it. It's insane.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Bad Taste is fun.

    by Jonah Echo

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Lost in Space had Joey Tribiani Action Hero

    by Lost Jarv

    which always raises a smile, and Oldman was good in it. At least I think it was oldman. That was a bad year for Blockbusters.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Answer me this everyone

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Something Jarv said above, "But I'm always laughing at it, not with it."<p>Does everyone here re-watch movies they found bad to begin with even if it gives them a few chuckles?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    I loved the Hook score

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    But I could take or leave the movie.<p> Never really stood out except for Hoffman's character.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    "Right, You Intergalactic Bastards,"

    by Lost Jarv

    How can a film with this line in it not be great. <P>Not to mention "Did you drink the chuck, OZ?"

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    13th Warrior and Dragonheart

    by Jonah Echo

    are both movies people call bad, but I also don't see. Ok, I can see how you would call 13th not very good, but it's entertaining, and with a few cuts here or there, and giving us a non-slow motion battle, it could have even been a GREAT film. <P> Dragonheart, I really really like and I don't care the story is trite. Draco is a great character and the rest of the movie around him is serviceable.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    My apology movies

    by Series7

    Godzilla and Die Hard 4. I am a hude Godzilla'98 fan, thats what introduced me to this site back when I first started hearing about it. I remember living in Bahrain staying up till like 3-4 in the AM just to see some live web video of premiere red carpet. Finally ended up seeing the film by myself in England while on a 3 day visit, and it did not disapoint.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Yes I do

    by Lost Jarv

    this may not be a surprise.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Did someone say snake orgy?

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Jonah, what's new in the extended version of Kong?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    blinders on for I, Robot..

    by Jonah Echo

    I thought it was pretty good.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    I also frequently have to apologise for Die Hard 4

    by Lost Jarv

    It may be that my expectation level with it was in the toilet, but I came out having quite enjoyed it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Ooo- Jonah vs Danny in battle of Hooks!

    by toadkillerdog

    Hah hah! Jonah threw down the gauntlet!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Hey since everyone is here

    by Series7

    I don't think all of you have watched this <P> http://tinyurl.com/593hl3 <P> Its the thing done with G.I.Joes, you need to watch it, you have to watch it. This is the last time I'm doing this.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Isaacs Hook = boring

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I don't know which was worse, Isaacs' boring ass flat performance, that homo Pan's annoying lisp, or Tinkerbell. All three were equally terrible. And the flying was lame as hell. It looks way too jerky greenscreeny with that artificial motion blur. I hate that crap. The only element of Isaacs I did like was the perverse moments with Wendy when he is almost hitting on her but not quite. That movie is completely dull and forgettable, and its quite sad because a studio won't give that story a shot for a long long time because of it. Hook is not really Pan.....its a sequel to the Pan story-- I wanted to see a proper Pan story that would be remembered for generations to come, and they totally blew their chance. The girl who played Wendy was great though. I will say that.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Has the bullet time been the most copied shot

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    in the history of cinema?<p> It seems like every few movies I watch, ecspecially comedies, have a version of that shot.<p> It has been made a cliche shot.<p> Sort of like the dog movie money shot of slow-motion shaking dry.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I, Robot

    by Lost Jarv

    I sort of like. But for 2 things. <P>1)Shia- I couldn't believe it when I heard this little offensive, annoying prick was being cast in Indy 4 <P>2)Product placement- "Nice Shoes", "Oh, DO fuck off".

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    a triceratops attack, a few new scenes in the early going,

    by Jonah Echo

    a battle with some scorpion-lobster like creatures on the raft, and then they disperse and the gang fights a giant river beast. Also, a Moa bird or some-such thing sequence. A few more parts involving New York, etc. A scene where either J.K.Simmons or someone impersonating J.K.Simmons plays a blowhard military type for 30 seconds who wants to kill Kong.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Jonah-- Dragonheart and 13th Warrior?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Almost every film you mention is just plain good.......not "Blinders Good."

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Yes, but danny

    by Lost Jarv

    You like Hook which has the most annoying, grating Tinkerbell in fucking history in it. Not that I like that version, but being nice, both are heavily flawed.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Didn't mind I Robot

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Ecspecially that machine that could tear up a house. Nice.<p> Also liked the part when she shot at Smith with her eyes closed and Shia called her on it. Made me laugh.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Danny..I think you are way off..and no doubt

    by Jonah Echo

    you think I am. Let's all agree that the Hook from the Mary Martin version is the worst and gayest. That's something we can get behind, right? Or avoid being in front of, or whatever.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    More on I, Robot

    by Lost Jarv

    I understand why Asimov nerds hate it, but the thing is- Law 0 is actually an Asimov idea. It's just not from the Robot Stories, it's from Foundation and Earth. <P>And before anyone asks, I am ashamed of that piece of knowledge.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I dont see why Julia Roberts is annoying in it. It is the only role of hers I dont hate. She is totally normal....that should be the complaint-- she is not very ferry-like, just a normal woman basically in tiny form. That obnoxious little twat in the new one got on my nerves in the opening scene. Its like they were trying to emulate the Disney version of Tink, and made her 10 times as arrogant.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    only here are these movies loved and respected. Seriously, that's why it's great. Everywhere else, people are like, why is this in your collection?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Triceratops attack?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Damn I will have to check that out. I watch King Kong everytime it is TNT (which is often) and have to say as a creature feature, Jackson knocked it out of the park.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Series 7

    by toadkillerdog

    I am the big Godzilla fan as well. Gojira being in my top ten of all movies. I love everything about the big rubber-suited guy -well just about everything. There were one or two movies in the early 70's that even a case of beer could not fix. That being said, I enjoyed Emmerichs Godzilla. I think because i never saw it as a true Godzilla flick. It is just a giant tuna-eating Iguana. It is a fun movie.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Isaacs Hook = boring

    by Series7

    Yeah, I tried to watch it like 3 times, feel asleep every time. I wanted to like it, couldn't. <P> Dragonheart as much as I thought I liked it as a kid, caught part of it the other day and turned it off because it was bad. Maybe because I was watching it on basic cable which makes everything seem bad for reason?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    again, I'm relying on old memories

    by Lost Jarv

    but every time she opened her mouth my fists Itched. <P>Addmittedly I can't stand Julia Roberts and thought it was outrageous she was even considered for, let alone won, and oscar for swearing in Erin cockovich (one of the most overrated movies around)/

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I, Robot was kinda cool....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Even though I fucking loathe Big Willy. What the fuck was up with his wardrobe in that shit? Trying to be all gangsta' in the future and shit. Everything else in that movie was better than him, except for that cancerous growth Shia leading a mob with a fucking pipe. What the fuck?!! HEY HOLLYWOOD....WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CONTINUE TO TRY AND SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROAT THAT SHIA IS A BAD ASS?!! FUCK HIM!! AND FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Willow

    by Ebolarama

    Any other Willow fans? Madmartigan, Elora Dannan, yes?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Then you hang out with the wrong people. Everyone I know loves 13th Warrior, Dragonheart, and Ghost and the Darkness. I think almost everyone of my friends own all three.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Oh speaking of movies only we know about

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I found VHS copy of The White Buffalo. Weren't we talking about that in the supernatural western section?<p>

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Willow is great...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Jonah....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    In Pan, do you like the kid that plays Pan?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    That's the product placement

    by Lost Jarv

    I nearly walked out when he said "Converse, Late 20th Century Vintage, cool". <P>I fucking hate them trying to sell me something in something I'm already paying for. If he'd just been wearing it, I'd have been fine. <P>On this topic, I hope everyone that works for Pearl and Dean burns in the 7th circle of hell. Why do Cinema owners not understand that if we're paying over $20 a fucking ticket to see something it is not acceptable to show 30 minutes of FUCKING ADVERTISEMENTS first. <P>That's my pet hate. It's now got to the stage where me and Mrs. Jarv turn up, buy the ticket, fuck off to the pub for an hour and come back just in time for the start of the movie. You may miss the trailers, but I'm an AICN geek so it doesn't bother me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Loved Willow

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I remember them talking about the special effects in that movie and siad they would be the future of those types of movies.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Peter Pan director: P.J. Hogan

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Who the fucks idea was that? Lets hire the guy that directed My Best Friend's Wedding....cause he probably has a great visual eye for fantasy.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    underrated little film that nobody saw:

    by Lost Jarv

    Cypher. It's good- honestly. Even if it does have Lucy Liu in it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Series7 - Those are glue gun sticks!

    by toadkillerdog

    I watched part of that. It looks very good. I will watch the rest later

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Good plan, Jarv... except...

    by Ebolarama

    You risk not getting a good seat. I suppose it's worth the risk though, of avoiding all those commercials.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Willow effects trivia

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Willow was the first film to use the morph effect, invented by ILM.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    My Best Friend's Wedding

    by Lost Jarv

    Makes me want to kill puppies- unless Rupert Everett is on Screen. Not quite as much as that horrible dreck he did with Madonna, where she tricked him into thinking he was her horrid offspring's father. <P>That one was retina scarringly awful.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    did you guys hear that rumor Rupert is gay?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I kid....I kid...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    I am with you on the blatant product placement in movies. I mean, it has been going for over 60 years, The Tobacco companies got into the act back in the forties, but the really bold product placement started in the late 70's. I think the absolute worst, was the McDonalds movie - which I still refuse to see. Mac and me.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I hate the ads too

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    If I wanted to watch commercials I would have stayed at home and watched the t.v.<p> I can just see them breaking up 3+hour movie for an intermission, just so they can shive a few more commercials into our jugular.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Also,

    by Lost Jarv

    the local odeon we go to is NEVER cleaned. So it's worth minimising the time that we have to sit in a fucking bin. And if you complain to one of the knuckle dragging troglodytes that allegedly works there (not that I've seen one of them ever do anything apart from eat Pick N Mix), then they look at you like you've just raped a baby and are requesting that they help you dispose of the body. <P>We actually stopped going to it, and go to the more expensive cinema that's a bit further away. <P>And it's time and money well spent.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Willow... good for little people, bad for fx

    by Ebolarama

    Anyone else think the little persons union is pissed off about the Weta technology used to make the hobbits appear small in LOTR? I mean, without that technology they would have had to cast little people, like in Willow...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    that's the ODEON CAMDEN TOWN

    by Lost Jarv

    On THe Parkway- NW1. <P>Just in case any of their marketing whores are skiving off work reading it. <p>YOU HEAR ME BASTARDS, ME- A GEEK THAT CAN BE RELIED ON TO USE YOUR PLACE FREQUENTLY- WILL NEVER SPEND ANOTHER FUCKING PENNY IN YOUR GRIMY, OVERPRICED, WHORING SHITHOLE OF AN ESTABLISHMENT. <P>That should do it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Jonah

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    You made me laugh hard. I can't count the number of DVDs I have where people pull it out and ask, "Why do you have this?"<p>The Big Hit, Hudson Hawk and Judge Dredd immediately come to mind.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Funnily enough

    by Lost Jarv

    I wouldn't mind an intermission if it was properly placed. You could get up, have a piss or a smoke, get a drink and come back to your seat missing all the ads. If it was put in the wrong place I would be forced to kill, but the theory is fine- it's worked in theatre for ever.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Are you saying you'd kick Lucy Liu

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    out of bed for eating crisps?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Never understood why Willow isn't remembered

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Whenever someone brings up a list of fantasy movies, it almost never gets mentioned.<p> Sort of like Dragonslayer.<p> I'm talking regular people, not us, as Warwick Davis is well loved around here.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    No I wouldn't.

    by Lost Jarv

    But it can be a sign that the film isn't great when you see her name on it. <P>And I know lots of people that don't fancy her. At all, which I find a bit strange.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Willow-

    by Lost Jarv

    I think it upsets the mainstream for some reason. I don't know why. I like it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Dragonslayer kicked ass

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Clash of the Titans kicked ass, too. And it sounds like some troglodytes at Jarv's Odeon need to be pencil-stabbed

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    is anyone asked me, "Why do you have this movie?"

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I would jump kick them in the throat and say, "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY PLACE!!" <P> It happened once with my Grandma. She pulled out my dvd of RENT and asked, "Is this a musical? Why do you have--" POW!! Jump kick to the throat, granny goes down like a pile of bricks and I have to recruit a neighbor to dispose of the hag's body in a local swamp.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    We just got

    by Series7

    This independent theater here thats a Draft house as well. They show like short films before the movie, there was this one that was like an epic war movie with just food it was fucking amazing! Its probably on that tube of yours somewhere.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Dragonslayer was awesome

    by toadkillerdog

    I loved that flick. It is top ten fantasy of all time

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    We now go to an independant

    by Lost Jarv

    Draft house thing- You get a sofa for another £10 (not a lot in context) for me and the missus, beer, and it's clean, the staff are friendly and helpful and worth every penny.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed Lucy Liu in Payback

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    And not much else. She needs to show more skin.<p>What's not to love about Willow? It has Warwick Davis, Billy Barty, the guy who played Burglecut, Val and the smokin' hot redhead who was briefly married to Val. Nuff said.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    YES THEY DO!!!

    by Series7

    Check this out its amazing! Food fighting like a real war. <P> http://tinyurl.com/5rqfxt

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Off home-

    by Lost Jarv

    Going to watch the end of Today's cricket. I promise not to fill the thread with Score updates tomorrow. Ciao.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Willow doesnt get love because of Ron Howard

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I know I've told people Ron Howard supposedly directed it and they fucking gasped as if I just told their cunt stinks like a garbage disposal. That shocks people for some reason.....and then I explain, yeah but really Lucas had his hands all over that shit. And then they kinda calm down....

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Abom!!!

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Nice of you to drop in. Your sage like wisdom has been missed.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Go watch that lucy liu movie

    by Series7

    Rise its terrible, I couldn't make it past the first 10 minutes, but you don't really have to. <P> Payback, is a fucking awesome film to. The only thing the directors cut had that was cooler was Mel hitting his wife in the head, that should've been left in. Otherwise the Mel version is better.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    what about the color tone of Payback?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Which do you prefer?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Willow is/was great

    by just pillow talk

    I used to watch that all the time after it came out. C'mon, Warwick and Val sliding down the hill into the house? Great stuff.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Abom, come back to the flock

    by just pillow talk

    The world continues the need to be educated on the teachings of the CoC.<p>Clearly that was evident based upon the religious thread.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    hubba-hubba...

    by just pillow talk

    That's all I remember about Lucy in Payback.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I like the color they

    by Series7

    Did with the theatrical cut of Payback. Like I know the director wanted it to feel like 70 noir film, like the conversation or french connection, his version just felt flat and not exciting. The theatrical cut was more cartoony and exciting. Kind of like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang another great movie.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah I thought losing the blue/cold tone might hurt the film. I haven't seen the DC, but I've seen clips-- and it looked a little too ordinary. I heard the blue tone was all Mel, when he took the film over. It was the first I ever heard of an unorthodox color correction-- but of course fucking Traffic gets all the credit for that. What the fuck is up with the wrong films getting credit for shit?! FUCK!! Its all cause of that little fucker SHIA!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is an excellent movie

    by just pillow talk

    I like Val in that one, and Downey is great of course.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Kiss Kiss totally rocks my world....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Peeing on the corpse scene, I haven't laughed harder in years. It makes Ben Stiller/ Will Ferrell shit all the more pathetic to me, that the funniest movies are almost always comedy/crime type films. They can do the comedic thing with a ton of cool action type shit in between and come out far more enjoyable. Val is funny as hell in Kiss Kiss. I can't think of another performance that year that was better as far as comedy goes.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    KKBB

    by HoboCode

    Great movie. The murder of the girl while RDJ is under the bed was a tonal shift fro mthe rest of the movie but it was a fantastic scene none the less.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Payback sucks cock however.

    by HoboCode

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    more on that point...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I'm saying that a guy like Shane Black and a guy like Val Kilmer who can do a ton of other cool shit can come along and make one of the funniest films in years, and comedy is not even their thing. They are capable of so much more as well. Guys like Ferrel/Stiller/Rogen/Apatow/Sandler.....all those buffoons-- comedy is their bag. Thats basically all they are capable of, and they still manage to fuck that up almost every time and come away with films that are generally not funny nor entertaining. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang shames anyone who considers themselves a comedic filmmaker/actor in the last few years.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Vern, whoever edited KILL SWITCH should be burned at the stake

    by Stuntcock Mike

    What a mess.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    dgdb

    by Series7

    Yeah that direcor kind of sucks compare to Mel, and Mel gave him every chance to make the movie better and he didn't want to. I'd listin to Mel.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    I like The Order, and Knight's Tale....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The Order is a crazy fucking dark film that doesn't get enough love.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Mel

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    But I do admit, Mel is the stronger director between them.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Danny - your idol may be returning to big screen

    by toadkillerdog

    Lethal Weapon 5

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    You know what doesn't get enough love?

    by HoboCode

    The Rules of Attraction. It basically got written off because it had James Vanderbeek in it, but it's a fucking great movie.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    never saw The Order...

    by just pillow talk

    But I do not like Knight's Tale. Not one bit.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    LETHAL 5?!!! awwww fuck no.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Bad idea. That franchise is done.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Funny Story about Val Kilmer...

    by Smeg Shmalad

    Val and I were doing what we normally do, stroke each other off while watching our favorite TV show. (J.A.G. if you must ask!)Anyhoo, Val's got this thing about having his cat watch him ejaculate, really gets him off. God, knows why, but boy oh boy does he CUM HARD when I force Mr. Whiskers to watch. So I'm sitting there, cat in one hand, my hard cock in the other, waiting for the ice Man to shoot his goo. Stroke stroke stroke...Nothing. "Fuck it" I say to myself and start ass fucking Mr. Whiskers. You can safely say Mr. W wasn't too pleased with this. It was frantically trying to bite me as made him my bitch. Finally, I couldn't take it anymore and in a moment of passion I snapped the fuckers neck! Val had his head cocked back over the couch,eyes shut, still trying to finish so he didn't notice. I continued to fuck the recently deceased feline so he wouldn't think anything was wrong. Before I could finish though, he tore the cat off and began to blow me. He was sucking the feces of his beloved dead cat off my schlong!!! Strange enough, he never asked about the cat though after we broke up, I heard though the grapevine that he was fucking one of Danny Dickbloods dogs. XOXOXOX!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, noon CST

    Egg Salad

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    How many times do I have to tell you? It was your lobotomized grandma chained up in my basement. Not a dog. I can see why you would be confused, as she barks for food much like a dog would.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Grandma, I made a cummy mess in your wig again!

    by Smeg Shmalad

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    maybe Jet Li can come back from the dead

    by just pillow talk

    and kill both of them like he should have done in part four.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    maybe Just Pillo wtalk will lose his viginity this year

    by Smeg Shmalad

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    maybe Just Pillow talk will lose his viginity this year

    by Smeg Shmalad

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Just rewatched the 1st Starship Troopers

    by SlickyVonBoner

    and its a great flick. Some of the acting from the leads isn't that good, but the special effects are amazing, better than some recents flicks. (I'm looking at you IJ:KOTCS) Also some great lines, like the recruiter saying the marines made him the man he is today. Also, both those chicks are smoking hot!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    I'm crossing my fingers

    by just pillow talk

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Pillow Talk it looks like you're shit outta luck

    by Smeg Shmalad

    'Date-rape chemicals' may be banned 3 hours ago Ministers are planning to ban two chemicals which can be used as date rape drugs, it has been announced. The substances are legally available but when absorbed by the body they rapidly convert to the drug GHB, which was banned five years ago after being implicated in sexual assaults. Scientific advisors have warned that the drugs may be contributing to the "significant problem" of drug-aided rape. The Home Office said it now intends to control the two chemicals, known as Gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) and 1,4 butanediol (1,4-BD) as Class C drugs after a consultation period. A Home Office spokesman said: "The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs found they were increasingly being used as a legal substitute for GHB, particularly as a 'club drug', and can lead to dependence if used regularly, unconsciousness and even death by intoxication." The chemical industry will be asked for its views on controlling GBL and 1,4-BD, which are widely available as cleaning fluids and industrial solvents. Earlier this year a seven-year-old girl from south London nearly died after eating toy beads coated with 1,4-BD, which caused her to suffer breathing problems and lose consciousness. The Home Office also revealed plans to control 26 anabolic steroids and growth promoting drugs, in addition to nearly 60 which are already illegal.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Back to number 1 already?

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Wowzers! Fred could not contribute last night, but it was not needed. Fred think we could takeover any TB and make it number 1 as long as we want.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Yeah Fred. Can you explain to me...

    by Smeg Shmalad

    IS THERE A SENSE OF SHALLOW ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT? "WE CAN MAKE THIS # 1!" DID YOU RIDE THE SHORT BUS FUCK HEAD? HERE'S A REAL ACCOMPLIMENT, MAKE EVERYONE IN YOUR LIFE HAPPY AND i'll whisper this...go slit your retarded little whists and stop putting your poor parents though this pain. do you think they like having to make excuses to all their friends why you didn't turn out right. please fred, just consider it ok.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Hello Smeg Shmalad

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred is happy to see you back. Get banned is not good for our post count.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Post count... :(

    by Smeg Shmalad