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Pete Campbell learns a lot about his father.
The Sterling Cooper steno pool learns something about Joan Halloway.
Paul Kinsey introduces a new girlfriend.
Duck Phillips makes his move.
Betty Draper brands her son a liar.
Peggy Olson sports a very handsome vacuum cleaner.
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Finally, this show is finding an audience. Many of my friends are catching up on the first season on DVD, many of them claiming to have never heard of the show before, despite my best efforts at evangelism during the first airing.
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I love the scene where the Mohawk airlines guy says "You fooled me" to Draper. I keep getting this sense that at the center of this show there's Don Draper, with all of these great things, wondering what to do next, what all of it really means. His ad spiel is beginning to fail him this season... It's less satisfying just like everything in his life. Very interesting to see where he goes. I also thought Pete Campbell finding out about his dad's death was really well shot. Great camera work/lighting on this show.
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is walking sex. <P>that's all. good night.
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...and keep drinking.<p> Kinda can't help it after watching this show.<p> Oysters sound good too...can't decide though, lemon juice and cocktail sauce or asbestos?
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I like that we fially got to see a little of Peggy's background/upbrining. It immediately made her a far more sympathetic character--and we learned a lot more about her. <p> Joan putting "I smoke a pip and date black chicks--aren't I hip" in his place was hilarious. <p> Just when you think Pete Scumbag can't sink any lower--he does! It's amazing. I can't recall ever seeing a bigger weasel on tv ever.
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i'm not interested in everyone's sister, cousin and uncle.
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Seriously. The Sopranos were caricatures. Mad Men has the most 3 dimensional characters on TV since Six Feet Under. It's a brilliant show and tonight's episode was spot on. This show only gets better and I'm really excited to see what happens with Draper and Betty. Is he going to blow up and go back to the old Draper or is he going to stay cuckolded all season long? As for Campbell, he's the most unlikable character on TV which is a testament to the actor. He did a great job tonight and I actually felt a moment of sympathy for him when he went to Don's office after hearing about his Dad. And more Kinsey please! What a blowhard. I love it.
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...and what is not said. I love this show because of everything that goes unexpressed. Like Peggy's sister who clearly has some resentment over taking the baby. Or even Pete because he really doesn't know how to deal with his father's death - and doesn't know how to communicate that to Don. I actually still felt bad for him even after he went to the pitch meeting because I felt like he might just be that mixed up about the death that he still wasn't thinking straight. OH, and agreed that Joan's speech to Kinsey was eviscerating... and I loved it!
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Is it strange that I still find her totally likeable and interesting through everything she's done? Elisabeth Moss does a great job - she should have been nominated... and also Christina Hendricks... oh, and January Jones (and Mary McDonnell)...
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he has been fucking around on one of the most beautiful women in the world because he hates his life and the lies he leads...he needs to be submissive for awhile
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It's what all the cool kids are doing.
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So, so interesting to just watch. Also, the scene with Peggy back home with her saying "I can take care of myself." "That's not what the State of New York thought..." is super interesting. Great season so far.
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Joan's quite the bitch.
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i cant wait for that episode... creepy!
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That's what the opening title means.
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by 1969 or whatever hte last year on the show is they will be making makeshift armor from supplies and turn their offices into mini-forts while creating sharp things for impaling. the factions wille ventually whittle down to draper, pete and peggy camps since they're the only ones with any individualistic thought there. the drugs will accelerate their war. we can view this from an outside reporter who is given the task to venture on an odyssey through the hell there, kind of like apocalypse now, on a rowboat to wade through the porridge of paper/feces/urine. draper got off the boat, he split from the whole fucken program.
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smoking a cigarette?
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I absolutely love this show. I've been raving like a madman to everyone I know about how great it is. Both Don and Pete have become better people over the past fourteen months once they became committed to their spouses. I also love that Kinsey is going bohemian. I love the character growth. It makes sense and feels natural.
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Yes. Here are the TV winners: Drama: "Gossip Girl."<p> Action/Adventure: "Heroes."<p> <p> Comedy: "Hannah Montana."<p> Reality Dance: "America's Best Dance Crew."<p> Reality Music Competition: "American Idol."<p> Celebrity Reality: "The Hills."<p> Summer TV Show: "The Secret Life of the American Teenager."<p> Actor Drama: Chad Michael Murray, "One Tree Hill."<p> Actress Drama: Blake Lively, "Gossip Girl."<p> Actress Action Adventure: Hayden Panettiere, "Heroes."<p> Actor Comedy: Steve Carrell, "The Office."<p> Actress Comedy: Miley Cyrus, "Hannah Montana."<p> Breakout Show: "Gossip Girl."<p> Breakout Star Female: Blake Lively, "Gossip Girl."<p> Breakout Star Male: Chace Crawford, "Gossip Girl."<p> Male Reality/Variety Star: David Cook, "American Idol."<p> Female Reality/Variety Star: Lauren Conrad, "The Hills."<p> Villain: Ed Westwick, "Gossip Girl" <p> 13-to-19 year olds voted online for the past month.
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Action Adventure: "The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian."<p> Drama: "Step Up 2: The Streets."<p> Chick Flick: "27 Dresses."<p> Bromantic Comedy: "What Happens in Vegas."<p> Comedy: "Juno."<p> Horror/Thriller: "I Am Legend."<p> Summer Movie Action Adventure: "Hancock". (beating out The Dark Knight, I might add)<p> Summer Movie Comedy: "Get Smart."<p> Movie Actor Drama: Channing Tatum, "Stop-Loss."<p> Movie Actress Drama: Keira Knightley, "Atonement."<p> Movie Actress Action Adventure: Rachel Bilson, "Jumper."<p> Movie Actor Comedy: Ashton Kutcher, "What Happens in Vegas."<p> Movie Actress Comedy: Ellen Page, "Juno."<p> Movie Actor Horror/Thriller: Will Smith, "I Am Legend."<p> Movie Actress Horror/Thriller: Jessica Alba, "The Eye."<p> Movie Villain: Johnny Depp, "Sweeney Todd."<p> Movie Breakout Female: Ellen Page, "Juno."<p> Movie Breakout Male: Drake Bell, "Superhero Movie."<p> Wow.
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Mad Men is fantastic but the "weight gain" makeup used for Peggy in series one and the husband of Betty's friend in episode 2.2 is kinda annoying. What gives?
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in the middle of a Mad Men thread. Maybe I just don't get irony.<p>Loved John Slatterly's line "I'd like ticker tape for pulling out of my driveway and going around the block three times, it's not like people were shooting at him." Bet he and Mark Moses are thanking their lucky stars that their characters died on Desperate Housewives, so they can be in a series for the ages, instead of a flash in the pan.
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I'll say whatever you want me to say, I'm just not going to fight with you. Who hasn't had that conversation, of course for Jan Jones I'd swallow my tongue too, and hers.
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Seriously, it's the best thing on TV. You could almost see Don's dick shrivel up when he couldn't bang that hot Japanese waitress. Pete's reaction to his father's death was classic. Interesting that he goes to Don first when he finds out and then Don crushed him later. And Joan is a bitch.
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I liked the scene where Pete is told that his mom will pretty much be broke and is asked "Do you want to tell her?" in a way that suggested Pete wouldn't want to be the one who gave her the bad news. Of course he wants to tell her! His dad was an asshole to him, and it turns out his dad wasn't just an asshole to him but the rest of the family too.
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Damn, Draper.
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And that's what makes it so extraordinary. Sure, the emotions are real, the setting, set decorating, style and 60's fetishisms are real. But notice how everything is heightened on the show, how the lighting isn't quite the usual TV shine, how the dialogue at times is theatre-like; almost coded. This calls for a uniquely stylized form of acting that, somehow, the entire cast is wavelengthing together. "Mad Men" is alarmingly good, and I can't quite believe that, as of the first two episodes, they've been able to equal the quality of last season. I was sure they couldn't keep it up, cause it must be damned hard. But look at 'em go. Wow.
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I am so weaned on network television that I expected Pete to breakdown in tears at some point, or have a tearfull clutch with a coworker. He did say at least once or twice that he hasn't cried, and in lazy TV writing that would signal a point where he would breakdown. Not this show. Again kudos to Mr. Weiner.
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Don is head of creative, not accounts management. It should have been Duck's responsibility to go and cut loose Mohawk. Yeah, Don is a partner now, etc., and he probably felt he owed it to the Mohawk folks to be the one to break the news to them, but I think don would have been well within his rights to say "Fuck off. You tell them. I'm against this." I just found it really odd they would make Don do it because he's not supposed to be handling that end of the business as head of creative.
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My time is precious you know....
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I LOVE The Wire and Mad Men is just as good if not better. Well worth your time.
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I just finished a Tweakathon (Twin Peaks) and noticed they smoked just as much on that show as they do on Mad Men. Hell, David Lynch even smokes on the extras disc. It occurs to me that smoking for the sake of smoking has been phased out of most television shows. This is why Mad Men as a heavy smoking show is so noticeable today. I don't remember thinking to myself, "damn, they smoke a lot on Twin Peaks" back when the show debuted on ABC. All I remember thinking is "damn, David Lynch must do a lot of acid." Just to bring this ramble full circle, I can't wait until one of the characters on Mad Men experiments with acid. On MM, a historically accurate show, it is presently 1962. The hippy '60s are rapidly approaching. Someone on the staff is bound to drop some A. My money is on the "open minded" writer guy.
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which was always more than a tv show...mad men is a mix of the apt, peyton place and desperate houswives, while at the same time being very self aware that it is a period piece...the scene that struck me the most and made me want to be a kid again, was the bridge playing scene, with the kids on the steps...that was me and my little sis...we couldnt stand having to go to bed while the adults got to play...never realizing that they really didnt want to be there either...
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It is on par with shows like Rome and Six Feet Under. Does it reach the heights of Sopranos, Wire, Deadwood? Not quite yet. But for my money, it's the drama around. What else matters?
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correction
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I want the whole baby thing to hurry up and play out so they can get rid of him. Its frustrating watching his character.
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That show is schlock nonsense, just like everything else on FX except Always Sunny, which is comedy brilliance.
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Go fix Daddy a drink. Don't crush the cherry. Gin.
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That's why they didn't pick up Mad Men, and why there shitty cancelled show "Tell Me You Love Me" was picked up. It's also why Lucky Louie was cancelled.
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that would probably be kinsey the bearded one. he's already turning bohemian and is going to turn into a lennon-circa 1969 lookalike by that year i'm guessing. <br> <br> sakirai-he's supposed to be sleazy, sniveling and scheming! that provides a good contrast to the other different characters.
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yeah, but he isn't intimidating enough to make me concerned for what he will do next. He is obviously incompetent at everything non-work related. He poses no real threat to anyone except the women who cant see what a jerk he is. I have trouble understanding why he is such a major character in the show. All I am saying is that he should be in less scenes. Hes rather flat and boring compared to the rich three dimensional characters the show so brilliantly creates.
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i like saying that just to mess with ashok0bhai
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Until some things start blowing up, it'll never be as good as The Shield. Know why? Because they're completely different shows. So, comparing them is pointless. Basically, Mad Men is a family drama, it's just that one of the families is a work family. In that way, it reminds me most of the Sopranos. And yes, I think it's comparable in quality too.
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With this role and Conner from Angel, they'll have to create a new category: Best Supporting Dick In A Series. And yes, he would win hands down.
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man, you are not very good at watching personal dynamics...they are both now in a loveless relationship
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I gave up red meat, alcohol, never smoked, and workout 5 days a week. But I don't look half as good as these chain smoking lushes. They are all quite buff with flawless complexions.
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is played by an actress in her early 20s. I couldn't believe it either!
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See for yourself. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0376716/
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easily.
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...but crave both after watching Mad Men
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You can't fart without someone rating your fart against another fart.
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