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  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:28 a.m. CST

    First, bitches.

    by Fah-Cue

    Dat's right. First.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:28 a.m. CST


    by Robothomer

    Buffy was the best ever.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    oops, make that second

    by Robothomer


  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Why, why, why!

    by trespasser

    Didn't this get made? I'm smelling Whedon conspiracy...

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by PirateEmery

    "News" about an aborted show from four years ago?<p> AICN is losing it.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by The Alienist


  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Nothing to say about this.

    by Cotton McKnight

    That woman does sound a lot like SMG, though.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Wow... that was actually as stupid and annoying as

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    The live-action series. Too bad Sarah Michelle's version didn't die as quickly.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:55 a.m. CST


    by MrD

    Why did you have to reopen the wounds? WHY?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:55 a.m. CST


    by lynxpro

    There were attempts to make an animated *Doctor Who* series in the late 80s/early 90s that fell apart. This is not surprising at all, although it is nice to have a clip to go along with the promo animated stills that we saw 4 years ago. The "fake" SMG providing the voice sounds like the same voice actress used on the Buffy Xbox games...which were pretty good.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST

    coming from a big buffy fan

    by imascooby1985

    This didnt seem to be very good at all. Admittedly, Xander's "the harder they what?" line was hilarious. But it didnt even come close to getting me excited. Then again, the fact that I know it will never be may have just gotten me prematurely going against it so as not to hurt my spirit.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST


    by SirLoin

    Thank God for you. I have been alone in my Whedon-hate wasteland for years.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    there was a comic con eureka panel

    by bacci40

    so i apologize to scifi for calling them idiots...

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:33 a.m. CST

    le sigh

    by RogueScribner

    I was excited for the series back when it was in development. I wish it actually made it to air. The same writers/producers/actors working on the animated version as the live action version? No budget constraints? And it's set in the all-too-brief high school years? If it wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread, it still would have been cool! Oh well.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Why couldn't they have pitched this to the Cartoon Network?

    by DeadlyFriend2.0

    Buffy and Venture Bros on the same night would be perfect.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Was that a.... a vampire dragon??

    by The Crystal Skull

    wow, I've never thought of that kind of dragon before!

  • I don't know if the development team changed on Chaos Bleeds or what but the control and overall game mechanics were infuriating. that being said, the voice work was top notch in both games as this giselle Loren really has smg's vocal inflections down, as I wouldn't notice it wasn't gellar unless you made a point of mentioning it. This little presentation just depresses me as a missed opportunity to tell some ridiculous high school adventures that in no way could have been made on the live action show for budgetary reasons. Oh well, guess I'll just dust off the original Buffy game and give it a spin, you can't beat the first fight with Spike who talks shit non stop while your squaring off till you hit him with about 4 vials of hell fire making him make a hasty retreat.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST

    DEFINITELY pitch this to CN!!!

    by lord_zedd

    Clean up the animation a little, adult-content it up some (to maintain the quality of the original series) and it would be quite a success. Maybe this was "leaked" in an attempt at viral marketing to get this project up for consideration again. Could explain why the issue arriving after the Fray saga in season 8 is going to be a high school flashback drawn in the style of this cartoon...

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:01 a.m. CST


    by David Cloverfield

    I love Buffy, but this piece of shit cartoon showed how it must look to a normal person. I have to stop advertising the fact that I'm a Buffy fan.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Kennedy kisses Willow's stomach

    by BauerJackBauer

    The single greatest moment in all of television.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST

    This is easily the best thing...

    by Jed Black

    Joss Whedon has ever had his name attached to. Also, a smart Sleeping Beauty-Ripoff-Dragon would have showed us Cartoon Buffy's cartoon titties with some fire breath. Wink.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST


    by punto

    voice acting sucks tho, you can tell those guys are not voice actors (or even worse, videogame voice actors). But I bet it would have gotten better with time.. the writing was pretty good, and the animation was awesome.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Dammit, now it'll be taken down before I can show my friends...

    by Kevin Bosch

    But yeah, as a Buffy fan, it didn't seem all that great. The humor seemed a little flat and predictable, and everybody sounded weird (even though it was mostly really them). But then again, it was a promo FOR the network. So i guess it had to pander to some extent, showing how much like other cartoons it COULD be like. And the dragon (or whatever ) was a way of showing the large scale possibilities without the real world budget restrictions. Now the Giles/Ripper BBC show I could really get behind. But it would HAVE to take place during the run of the original series, when he was away during season 6, and NOT post-series, season 8 comic era. (Christ I'm a geek. But at least I'm not one of those geeks that thinks he's better then other kinds of geeks. Those are the worst. Those, and the Stargate fans.)

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:54 a.m. CST

    the art sucked, and the voice acting is horrible

    by bacci40

    this proves that real voice actors are a truly skilled lot...this was just bad

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Did Jeph Loeb make this?

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    or am I forgetting something. I remember reading a magazine cover story about this show back when it was being made.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:24 a.m. CST


    by Kevin Bosch

    I don't think this takes place during freshman year. I could be wrong, but i read somewhere that it would take place like during season 2, but between all the episodes from the real show. I'm guessing the cartoon was to stay in perpetual standstill, time never really advancing or getting to the point where Angel turns to Angelus or anything. I don know. I do know Dawn was to be in it. Though, freshman year would've been cool (though made no continuity sense) if it had involved that Eric Balfor character that was killed in the first episode. I always felt bad for that guy. It seems he was pretty good friends with Willow and Xander, but nobody ever mentions or seems to miss him again.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:32 a.m. CST

    A little rough around the edges, but..

    by Hjermsted

    ... aren't ALL pilots that way? Given time, this show would have found it's own groove.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST


    by DeadlyFriend2.0

    You know, I never even really thought about that and you have a really good point. Xander watches his best friend get all vampy and accidently kills him. You think that'd cause a little bit of emotional scarring but I guess not.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 5 a.m. CST


    by blackhole4140

    Thanks for posting this!

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Buffy the Dragonslayer

    by pokadoo

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 5:42 a.m. CST


    by Dradis Contact

    It has potential. Fiddle around a bit with everyone's levels, and cut about half of each line. IMO.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 5:47 a.m. CST

    RE: Freshman year

    by Kevin Bosch

    "For example, here's an issue that came up: The animated series was set during Buffy's freshman year of high school. Does that mean that the characters can't make any pop culture references that post-date season one of Buffy? Does it mean that a "new" car is a '97?" It sounds to me like the show was to be set during Season 1 ('97) and she mistakenly referred to it as Buffy's freshman year. I know she was a producer on the show, but she started during Season 3, so it seems like an honest mistake. I saw an interview with Marti Noxon where she jokes about the fact that even she can't fully explain Season 5 even though she's the producer. In this interview it sounds like it is supposed to take place during Season 1: "For the fans, we've always seen it as Episode 7.5. Buffy has met Angel." That makes sense, since that's the season with the least episodes, and even some of the actual episodes were very uneventful ( stuff like "The Pack" or "Teacher's Pet" would've been throw away jokes or things that happen to background characters in later seasons), and it didn't have a huge story or character arc. They could've just made up stuff to fit around what we already saw (some of the planned episodes of the cartoon actually sound better then real season 1 episodes). And yeah, regarding Jesse, he would've fit into The Wish, but I always thought he should've showed up in "Conversations with Dead People" in the last season (and according to this site that was considered: "A second option was for Xander to meet his long-dead friend Jesse, who was vamped and staked in season one's The Harvest.")

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Unless it's like the Muppet Babies toon.

    by Dingbatty

    The Muppets were babies in the 80's, and adults in the 70's. Weird time paradox.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Looked pretty good, except for the drawing of Buffy

    by newc0253

    and the improbability of the scene with the dragon: as funny as Xander's "the harder they what?" line was, it seemed kinda silly that they'd just stand there as a dragon crashed through the roof and ate Buffy.<p> Also, Willow, Xander and Giles all looked like Willow, Xander and Giles. Why didn't Buffy look more like ... Buffy?<p> I concur btw with Whedon's opinion above re the two Buffy xbox games: the first Buffy game was great, caught the atmosphere and everything, with great gameplay. Chaos Bleeds, otoh, sucked some serious balls.<p>

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    So i just read the interview:

    by newc0253

    one of the artists explains that "the biggest hurdle was that Buffy could not look too much like Sarah because she wouldn't be doing her own voice. That was tough, to make her design look cool and not too generic".<p> I'm sorry to say they failed.<p>

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST


    by CreasyBear

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    I don't see why it wasn't made

    by Drath

    Apart perhaps from her stabbing creatures with wooden stakes. It's clearly kind of rough with the voices and animation, but it's on par with a lot of what CN does, and maybe better since I know the writers can bring it. Also Willow being attracted to Xander again (as she was in the beginning of the show), would probably have openned up some doors to controversy that probably someone who'd produce a cartoon show doesn't want to open if you know what I mean. But basically this looks like it treats Buffy as though she's an old American icon like Archie or Scooby Doo, and that's kind of special. I remember this show would have featured Dawn as though she was always there, so for anyone troubled about continuity, forget it, this was an elseworlds bit of fun, and no doubt would have featured current pop culture references. Thanks for pointing the way to this, Herc. Ignore the bitches who hate Whedon and Buffy and you and life, never stop posting this stuff.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Disney's Kim Possible is better.

    by teethgnasher

    That show was funny.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Why the hell wasn't this made?!

    by rbatty024

    I love animation but I hardly watch any these days because there's decent on television. A cartoon Buffy would have been a great addition to the Whedonverse. Maybe they can get a cartoon Firefly started?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    The Holy Grail of the Buffyverse

    by buffywrestling

    Never thought I'd see it. Thank you, thank you.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Buffy-The most overrated CRAP in the last 15 years

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Whedon's only ever created one decent show and that was Firefly. Buffy was tripe from start to finish, I have never understood people's love for it.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    "Buffy was tripe from start to finish"

    by smackfu

    This sentence seems strange to me, in that people don't usually watch 'tripe' from start to finish. So...are you a repressed closet Buffy fan full of self loathing for loving what you hate, or have you actually seen almost nothing of Buffy and are lying about 'start to finish' to give your opinion more credibility? Or are you just like one of those 'Lost' basket cases that complains about how much they hate it ever week yet never miss an episode?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST


    by Mr_X

    hey i put this link up in the other thread.. glad to see tptb read my comments. as a buffy/angel fan ( yes it was possibly the greatest series ever made . and thats coming from a trekkie) i thought it was rather excellent. nice to see ti gets the usual aicn treatment though. ( the voices sucked, the animation terrible!) etc.etc.etc. would have been cool to see this as an actual series. i miss those shows.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    everything worked except buffy.

    by Datascream

    her voice anyways, there was no life to it. Sarah Michell Gellar sounded bored and uninterested and just kind of coasted through the whole thing. everyone else sounded great however. I also liked the animation, it was fluid and stylish enough to the point where it didn't look put on.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    damn you

    by hulkbuster

    now im interested you asshole

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Worts first lines EVER!

    by Underdogthe3rd

    "There are thing in the dark... Dark Things!". Wait, what? Its the sama as "The are shit in the holes. Shit holes!"

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST


    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Just a husband whose wife loves Buffy, unfortunately, and as a result have been exposed to it's direness on many occasions. Sorry to burst the bubble. I stand by my view of the show, if it hadn't had all this ridiculous fanboy hyperbole spouted about it I could see it simply for what it is - a poor show. Add in all the hyperbole though and to me it is overrated, obviously. And please, spare me the comments about the singing episode or 'Hush' being exceptional moments of television. No, they were just half decent episodes in an otherwise mindless show written by a man who evidently thinks he's a lot more clever than he actually is. Teen angst and martial arts don't equate to deep exploration of the human condition as so many seem to think regarding this show.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Looks like WB did the Cartoon

    by BetaSword

    'cause it looks like the drawstyle from JusticeLeague(Unlimited).

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST


    by Shan

    That wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar doing the voice of Buffy.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Jeph Loeb?

    by blindambition238

    Does that explains the awkward dialog? Also, as someone may have already asked, did Bruce Timm have a hand in the character designs?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST

    this was terribad

    by Krangelus

    yet amusing

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Wow, I Wish This Actually Got Made

    by LaserPants

    I always loved Buffy. Something like this could be the stuff an animated legend; especially if it had the same level of writing the show had, coupled with the freedom that animation affords; for instance, having Buffy fight dragons in the sky. Shame it never happened...

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Where's the Hentai version?

    by tonagan

    It needed more tentacle fornication.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    I love animated lesbians

    by hadez


  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    The Hentai Version

    by LaserPants

    Is in your mind. Go to the bathroom and experience the joy of self-pleasure enhanced by your imagination. Then, spend the next few weeks making a flash animation of it. THEN, the next few weeks after that in a protracted legal battle for using copyrighted material aimed at adolescents in a pornographic context. Finally, spend the next few years of your life paying off the fine, or getting over the psychological trauma of your short stint in jail.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    It Was Just Okay

    by NeoAngelus

    There was a couple of out-of-character moments for Giles and Willow. But Xander's "The harder they what?" made me laugh out loud. - n/a

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    How come no review of Gen Kill or Weeds?

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Good shows with no mention on this site. Why?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Not bad

    by jocutus

    It actually had some semi-decent animation for the fight scene. The above complaints about continuity just make me laugh. Why can't the animated version just be it's own universe, like the DC animated shows?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by deadnotsleeping

    SMG just did the Paley reunion. <p> @TB <p> My fav parts were the "followers of Morgan Freeman" and Xander's "standing the the corner" shirt. They packed a lot of stuff into that four minutes.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    So--what would the target audience for this have been?

    by mraig

    I'm always so confused by stuff like this. Would the idea be that the cartoon is REALLY for eight-year-olds, but hopes to drag along a good chunk of the twenty- and thirty-something year-old audience of the original show? Or would it have been truly aimed at a more adult audience, with a little bleedover kid appeal because it's a cartoon? (Probably more the former than the latter, given the tone of this clip). <P> This new phenomenon of new a generation of (American) adults interested in cartoons must be a big challenge for programmers (who are always ten years behind the curve anyway). I would be really curious to see the demographic breakdown of what percentage of people who watches different cartoons come from what age ranges.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    And as for Buffy in general...

    by mraig

    I kind of feel the same way about it as I do for Star Trek: I have enjoyed watching both franchises a lot (more at some times than at others), but I feel like the fanbase for both shows probably does more to hurt than help the shows' public image. <P> The weirdness of Star Trek fans is obviously legendary, but, as for Buffy, the problem I always have is that the fans take the show so SERIOUSLY, like we've found the next Shakespeare or Melville. They're teaching college seminars on Buffy, writing dissertations, fiercely defending the merit of every single silly detail and canonizing the whole franchise as sacred, and I always think--it's a good show, but it's not THAT good. <P>Will people still be talking about it and watching it in a hundred years? Will it still be an active franchise with remakes and retellings and novelizations and parodies--will it even enter into the arena of general public literary possession (like, say, Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Frankenstein from ~100 years ago?) and reach the point where you can refer to it and anyone will know what you're talking about? I dunno...

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Looks good.

    by myrtle_mae_simmons

    I wish this had been a series. But then if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Mr Spork

    by ls420

    cause this site is stuck in the 90's. I cant belive they dont have more updates or poscasts,etc...sigh. but i dig the buffy video, why not bring it back in this form? it could work

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I really enjoyed that

    by Roninmerc

    It obviously wasn't perfect but it certainly had the Whedon charm. I'm suprised by the amount of negativity. On second thought, I'm not. It seems like a lot of talkbackers on AICN are only comfortable shitting on stuff. It's kind of a shame actually.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    what a surprise this was cancelled

    by FrodoFraggins

    What a piece of crap just like the live action show.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    I agree, Roninmerc...

    by Ellipsian

    ...both about the charm and the negativity. I thought the clip was a good representation of what could have been and what would certainly have been honed to a finer Mr. Pointy. I also dug the over-the-top slayage: way to take advantage of the animated format. As for the negativity, well... welcome to the Hellmouth.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    The current Comic

    by InfernoDragyn

    is going to have an arc written by Jeph Loeb, wherein he will be using stuff written for the cartoon. The cover preview shows Xander, Willow and Buffy watching a TV with the cartoon on it. you can see the pic here --->

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by InfernoDragyn

    this link should work for the Buffy comic cover image

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    SMG Shunning Buffy

    by LaserPants

    Really is totally fucking stupid because its the only thing anybody cares about in terms of her career. If she was smart, she would beg Whedon to do more Buffy. OR, start doing Buffy-inspired porn.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    GENERATION KILL: <br> <br> <br> <p>WEEDS: <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    those are only our first 10 "Weeds" stories.

    by Hercules

    You can find all of them by clicking the "more on this topic" button at the bottom of any of the "Weeds" posts.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    my 2 cents

    by redshirt

    I love the general idea. I however would set it post series, with the army of slayers to avoid continuity problems (a la Enterprise). That way you can make modern pop references. It needs to be on adult swim and of a more serious nature. I was impressed with the horrific nature of Hellboy: Blood and Iron. I thought that story would have made an excellent Buffy tale. That had the right tone, Scary yet full of humor. Not a kids show at all. It would be more successful if it appealed to existing Buffy fans, not trying to create new ones by making it appeal to kids. The kids will catch on soon enough.

  • It looks like both SMG & FPJ careers are both dead.. FPJ is doing WWE, SMG is doing not a god damn thing. Who cares if the voice acting was shitty, I would be happy just to have new tales of Buffy on the air, that arent 17 page comic books.....

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    SMG hates the show. Always has done.

    by V'Shael

    My theory is she hated it when her co-stars became as big, if not bigger, than her because of the show. That was when she took on her airs of "This show is beneath me. You all might need it to advance your careers, but not me."

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Why the "Things in the Dark. Dark Things" is funny.

    by Hercules

    It's supposed to be bad dialogue. The original show posited, very logically, that very few vampires have the way with words we associate with a Dracula. Most vampires, in fact, are probably just halfwits who were stupid enough to get themselves bitten by a vampire. <p>Also funny is the way Buffy mocks his strained attempts at vocal menace. <p>Now I'm not saying this show would've been as good as the live-action series, but it would have employed a lot of the writers who worked on the not-animated show. "Star Trek: The Animated Series" worked the same strategy, but with much more limited animation.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Herc, saying "It's supposed to be lame"

    by V'Shael

    is a lame excuse. That doesn't make it funny. No one is laughing going "Look at the stupid vampire. Can't even come up with decent dialog." They are saying "Who wrote this shit?" <p> Star Trek the animated series, had at most two decent episodes. Yesteryear was one of them, written by D.C. Fontana. The rest of the show was awful. If that's the strategy they were going to follow, they'd have followed it right into year-1 cancellation.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    I can't believe they didn't throw money at Joss

    by oisin5199

    to make this. Built in audience, kids would love it. I'd venture to say this would have had a similar audience to the Dungeons and Dragons show years ago. It's a complete mystery to me why this never flew. From what I remember, Mutant Enemy was never given the budget that they wanted and they refused to make the show on a shoestring because they didn't want to hurt the quality. Oh and I'm sure years from now all those scholarly books on Buffy will be evidence that it was such a 'poor' show. Idiots.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    oh yeah, thanks for posting this

    by oisin5199

    Great to see what would have been. And thanks for the pic, InfernoDragyn, great drawing. Though I'm a bit skeptical about Jeph Loeb writing for the Buffy comic, since so many of his recent comics have been terrrrrible, like that whole Red Hulk thing.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    On a total unrelated matter

    by 2LeggedFreak

    I've stumbed acros a show called the Middleman which I can't find any reference to on AICN and yet to say it doesn't suck is an understatement.<br> <br> Herc, you may wish to get your tongue out of Mr W's ass and look around, there's other stuff out there than the dying embers of Buffy.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Jeph Loeb isn't just a horrible comic writer.

    by Mose Schrute

    He also worked on "Teen Wolf Too" with Tim Kring and some of the worst episodes of "Smallville," "Lost" and "Heroes." Man is a menace.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    I've posted loads of "Middleman" stories too.

    by Hercules


  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    You can't find the "Middleman" stories

    by Hercules

    because the AICN search engine doesn't seem to work for recent posts. I know not why.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    If SMG's career gets any worse...

    by fiester

    She'll be begging Whedon to jumpstart some Buffy projects--which is funny because by then it looks like whedon will have moved on and not have any interest in revisiting that franchise.<p> I predict SMG will end up in some middling network sit-com a la "Caroline in The City" or whatever that Brook Shields one was called.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    oh, and the next stop after that is (you guessed it)

    by fiester

    -a late '30s SMG doing a Playboy spread in the hopes of generating some interest in anything.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    Super Cool.

    by kirttrik

    I'd love to see a prime time high quality action cartoon. Something like what Simpsons did for humor but for action oriented storylines.

  • Why, Cartoon Network? WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME WITH THIS SHIT!?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    What?! No Tentacles?!

    by conspiracy

    Look...if they are going to make Buffy and Willow into a friggin cartoon, best have plenty of tentacles. Without a full on Hentai style, Lesbians vs. raping tentacles scene I see no reason to surf away from Imagefap.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST most "actors" is delusional...

    by conspiracy

    Hey sugar teets...make your money while the looks last, lest you end up like Susanne Somers doing Infomercials at age 60 just to keep the lights on. Damned near every actor get a big head after the first success...and instead of banking it fully while they can..decided they are creating "art", instead of "entertainment" and eventually blowhards themselves right outta a job. One week it's 250K an episode..the next they are reduced to making $25k commercials..and damned happy to get them. Wise up girly.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I would watch this.

    by Geekgasm

    Or buy it on a digital video disc. Having said that, Ms. Hannigan is kind of dry as a voiceover actress. The faux-Buffy was good though and Nick Brendan was surprisingly excellent.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Enough with Buffy

    by quintana007

    I‘m a grownup now, lost 100 pounds and have a life. R.I.P. Joss Geekdhon

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    how empty does your life have to be...

    by Steve T

    that you have nothing better to do than go and look up news about now dead programmes you never liked and then slam them? Just asking! Can't say that clip did much for me, just seemed like pointless franchise building!

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    this woulda been a lot cooler if

    by alice 13

    i was around ten years old.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, this should be on Adult Swim...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I'd love to see Buffy return this way, and the best audience for this would be the viewers of Adult Swim. This would be a good companion series to the Venture Bros..

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST


    by dvdhound79

    Some network heads from a cable company will see this, notice a great opportunity and ask Whedon to let them give him great amounts of money to produse this in high definition, or at least a few direct to DVD (Blu-Ray) movies. Come on Cartoon Network. I'm talking to you

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Tim and Eric Is Friggin' HILARIOUS and Surreal!

    by LaserPants

    I fuckin' love it. Buffy is a completely different deal; more narrative based like JLU. Tim and Eric is just crazy. It makes me feel like I'm tripping, and I haven't done acid or shrooms in years. I think it might even induce flashbacks.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Damn, wish that would've made it

    by Atomica

    I actually liked it. The art dtyle was hard a Jack Kirby meets Bruce Timm kind of vibe going for it and although the wit was a bit dry, it was also a it never made it to air.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    "the AICN search engine doesn't seem to work for recent posts"

    by newc0253

    does it work for anything else?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:04 p.m. CST

    that was terrible...

    by ulcer

    and that person voicing buffy.. how can this get praised? How does that sound like SMG.. is a girl's voice all it needs? The tone of the voice is totally innapropriate for this whole clip. She's muttering in a microphone, alone in a room, that's how it sounds like.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Just as crappy as you would expect!

    by Orionsangels

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    i love buffy

    by Gungan Slayer

    i'm not ashamed. neither should you be.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST


    by Illuminate

    In all honesty, I liked the show. But, the one thing that I hated was the arrogant attitude of Sarah Michelle Geller. If you have seen her interviews or read sci-fi or people magazine than you know what I am talking about. One small example is that, She once talked about how she said she might or might not invite the guy who plays spike to a party. Another example is that she did not even put her voice on the animated show when all the other actors did. It doesn't take much time. Plus, she never appeared on Angel after her show went off. She is an arrogant dumb bitch. Karma is a bitch and what goes around has come around. Sarah Michelle Geller has not been seen for the last couple of years. She is not even hot. She is a flat chested short twit. I am not saying I would not let her suck my dick because I would. However, the next day I would not pick up the phone when she called me. Seriously, go on spring break close your eyes and the first chick you run into will look hotter than her. No descent Director would hire this twit. Her acting skills are descent but, she is definitely no Merrill Streep. The only reason she is known at all is because of that show. If Josh Wheadon had hired anybody else than they would also be known. She was so arrogant and ungrateful to Wheadon that she did not even appear on Angel in it's last season. In a year or two no one will even remember her name. The animated Buffy looks hotter than her. They should do a new movie or a new show and Bring in a hotter Buffy.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST


    by Illuminate

    Oh, the animation sucked. When will the idiots out there realise that the Batman "cheap" looking square face cartoons look like shit. 90% of american cartoons look like that pathetic style. Which is why 90% of Amerca's youth have turned to the cool more realistic looking humans of Japenese. Don't get me wrong, I like Batman the Animated series but lets all be honest it looks like shit with Batman have a cube jaw. I miss the 80's when cartoons looked cool and more human like from GI Joe to Silver Hawks to Bionic Six.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Beats the hell out of a lesbo comic book.

    by Andre the Frog

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Bionic 6? That show was awesome.

    by Djx

    Surprised no one's dared to make a movie of that yet. C.O.P.S was also pretty entertaining. Sure Hollywood will get there after a Captain Planet movie or something.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Xena has fan conventions.

    by teethgnasher

    Does Buffy?

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Does Buffy?

    by Alex Wilder

    Yes, it does.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by Buck Swoop

    as far as i can tell SMG gave 100% between "action" and "cut" and that's all that matters to me. but i'd like to see Ingrid The 18th Century Vampyr Slayer become reality.

  • Aug. 3, 2008, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by lynxpro

    Squirrel please. There are only a few Anime projects that are of worth...those being Starblazers (yes, I'm using their American titles), Battle of the Planets, Trans Zor-Z, Voltron (Lionbot) and Cowboy Bebop. The rest is unadulterated krap like Pokemon and Dragonball Z. Sorry, but Akira is overrated and always has been, with Ghost in the Shell being nearly as overrated too. And why is it that the Japanese crave an animation form where the (Japanese) characters look white? And even better...why do they worship Michael Jackson? Sorry, but I'll take "American" animation over 99% of anime, thank you very much. Besides, anime fans make Trekkies look like studs.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, midnight CST

    this looks great

    by WolfmanNards

    It's still not too late to pick it up. I'd be right on that show if it aired. It seems like this medium could concentrate more heavily on the humor and action. Some of the jokes were genuinely funny, not just filler for where funny things should be placed which is what most TV writing delivers.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    whiny bitches

    by Mr_X

    a. I like the fact that buffy haters who hate all things whedon and huffy and buddy fandom,deliberately go into a huffy column to let us all know how they feel. B. I also find hilarious the animation mafia who bitch about the drawing...of a fucking cartoon. That's right a fucking cartoon! Waaa ! The voices don't sound the same! Motherfucker, apart from smg, the fucking voices are the same! C. I would have loved to have seen this, and would have watched. I dare say this is better then the comic. and whilst everyones gone on about xanders " the harder they what" the true genius was giles "not listening to a word I'm saying"

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST


    by Mr_X

    d. nice to see all the smg hate. Have none of you had a job that was great but now it's time to move on? Or are you all stuck doing the same thing day in and day out wondering why you're not going forwards? Omg! It's for the fans! Fuck that shit. She doesn't want to do any of that anymore. Well that's up to her. It'd be great if shed change her mind. But there's other stories out there!

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Timm-style Batman has a "cube" jaw, because

    by Dingbatty

    the character is stylized. If you don't understand what that means, what it's function is and why it is necessary, you have no business trying to convince others you know anything about animation, or illustration. Photo-realism in cartoons is only possible via rotoscoping, which is a point of controversy in animation. Even the great Ralph Bakshi has taken a lot of shit for utilizing it.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST

    "Amerca's youth have turned to the cool more realistic looking h

    by Voice O. Reason

    Japanese cartoons realistic? Are. You. KIDDING?

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Buffy Animated - Jeph Loeb

    by GrossMan

    An archived interview with Jeph Loeb regarding Buffy Animated and, in particular, this presentation footage has been posted over at

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    I'd still watch a Buffy cartoon esp. of the early years

    by Tacom

    The first three years with Buffy in high school are still the best.

  • Aug. 4, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Illuminate is an idiot.

    by Engelhast

    Animation "art style" which is what you are criticizing and "animation" is not the same thing. You are an idiot because you in the same post call out Batman the animated series as being poorly animated which it was not because you don't like the way the drawings were done yet you applaud Silver Hawks which was one of the worst animated cartoons of all time because you liked the way it looked. Grow a brain. People that bash the animated Clone Wars and Samurai Jack as being poorly animated also like you, sir just don’t get it. That said…the animation in this Animated Buffy is pretty crap…the drawings I could have lived with.

  • Aug. 5, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST


    by WatertownSurfer

    would have great to see this on television. lets hope it sparks something.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:08 a.m. CST


    by PirateAnya

    Pirate, what is up? Miss you from elsewhere, but you need to know that anything Buffy rules!