Aug. 2, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:07 a.m. CST
i really want to see this film.
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:07 a.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
I'll check it out.
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:10 a.m. CST
Does AICN have a stake in this flick? Reminds me of that shitty book they tried to post. Odd that 'reviews' like this make me not want to see it.
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:22 a.m. CST
with short skirts...you perv
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST
I definitely enjoyed it although I felt it dragged in parts and was a bit derivative and cliche in areas as well, but overall I agree Capone, I cared about these kids (Hannah in particular for me as well, maybe because most of us here can connect with her dream and sense of misplacement, and she's a cutie!) I too was itching to see the aftermath and the seemingly self written epilogues were a nice touch (although a bit light)
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST
Teenagers, especially teenagers, will act differently around cameras. This is not an accurate depiction. Cameras change everything.
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST
that indicates to me that the students were able to sufficiently tune out the cameras. Because anyone realizing that they are being watched and judged would not do that.
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST
by Spaz Medicine
And yeah, Hannah was my favorite of the bunch as well. Not to much because she was cute or even because I felt some connection with her being an "outcast" or whatever. When we are first introduced to her, she has this fun spirit about her and you immediately sense that she doesn't give a fuck about what people think she should be. And she was also hopelessly in love with her boyfriend. When she got dumped and went into a deep depression, it was truly heartbreaking. And when she finally pulled herself back together and Mitch found her, you just knew how that one was going to play out, but for her sake, I hoped I was wrong (which, of course, I wasn't). By the end of the film, I was just sitting there, hoping that nothing would get in the way of her dream in San Francisco. There was just something so inspirational about Hannah. I won't give away where her journey has taken her up until this point, but I just hope that whatever she may encounter in the future, she keeps that spirit that made her irresistible to watch and root for.
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST
Fuck, Harry. I don't know if these web ad companies are just paying to put whatever they want on the site, but Lonsome Dove? Put down the remote and pick up some dignity for shits sake. At least Kevin Smith is 1) famous enough to sell out and 2) sells out in grand fashion. Don't tease selling out. Either go all the way or don't go at all.
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:50 a.m. CST
I agree, Hannah was very inspirational, she let nothing stop her from chasing her dream, you have to respect that in a 17/18 year old...
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST
that way they'd feel completely comfortable around the camera. <br><br>going to a Q&A with the kids and/or burstein really puts the film into a lot of perspective. she intentionally went out to find all the archetypes of a high school movie (queen bee, jock, outcast, nerd, etc) to show that these stereotypes actually exist, but are far more complex than what we see in varsity blues. when you find out what happened in megan's past, it is a huge suckerpunch that is directly connected to her urge to get into Notre Dame, and you see her in a completely different light. and calling it derivative or cliché or trying to analyze the plot is hilarious - this is a documentary. these things actually happened to real people, and the fact that people see it almost as a narrative film (and some do, even critics ell oh ell) really drives home the point of the film. <br><br>long story short, i found it to be pretty good, but after the Q&A with the kids i thought it was brilliant.
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST
some of the film was clearly staged and while the bitch stereotype was somewhat turned on it's ear the jock was a complete cliche that offered nothing new(must get scholarship or enter army, that's pretty black and white) and the nerd was pretty much the same (omg I'm antisocial and lonely and can't find a girl...) not much complexity there... can you elaborate on the Q and A and how it elevated the film?
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:28 a.m. CST
she is the artsy girl with a quirky platonic male friend (cant say if he's gay or not) she did not however get around... she's referenced as having sex one time in the whole film (during one of the most obviously staged moments in the movie)
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST
This movie puts overrated messes like The Dark Knight to shame. Imagine a film that actually makes you care. Wow!
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:56 a.m. CST
by The Eskimo
Aug. 2, 2008, 4:02 a.m. CST
by The Eskimo
It's the one movie they can't aford to screw up. It was written perfectly for the big screen (what with all the slow, build-ups to the main story) and who ever gets tapped to do thins thing (I assume Paramount) will really have to be a literate fucker to get it right. Forget all the other bull shit....the CGI....the stroy is about Roland and how we get to know him throughout the novels. That is the key to the screen play. If they fuck this one up I am done with Hollywood. There is enough old B-movie's out there to keep me occupied for the last few pathetic years of my life.
Aug. 2, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST
nothing like reality done right
Aug. 2, 2008, 5:11 a.m. CST
by bright boy
i saw this movie at the LA film festival and it is one of those movies where you are praying that every character will die within the first ten minutes, but they dont die and live on for another 90 minutes. then you also have to walk around afterward with the knowledge that these are real people and that makes you want to murder everyone you come into contact with for the next week or so. example of how much ass this movie sucks: the filmmakers try to show us how "strange" the "strange girl" is by staging this scene where she and her homo best friend are dancing in the school hallway in yellow sunglasses. wow, how outrageous. they never actually say the best friend is a homo, but you know for sure because a.) he's doesn't bang her and everyone else does and b.) when he starts crying when she's leaving town at the end, hugs her and whispers in his gay dude voice "youre my best friend". if 90 minutes of that sort of bull shit sound good to you, then by all means... take the dildo out of your ass and go see this movie!
Aug. 2, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST
Fuck this shit!
Aug. 2, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST
Yea I remember catching the trailer for this a few months back (maybe even on here) and she was super cute, but why do I get the feeling that based on what I already know about these kids, I'll also not be at all surprised by ANYTHING that they do or what happens to them in this doc? Already the rich popular princess seems pretty easy to figure out why she is how she is. This is seeming to merely enforce these stereotypes that much further.
Aug. 2, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST
This looks like a variation on what you can see every week on reality television. Ninety minutes of a bunch of teens feeling sorry for themselves? I'll pass.
Aug. 2, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST
That basketball game in the trailer was filmed my high school gym. Amazed they still use the damn thing after 20 years. For the record LOTS of us get out of small town Indiana Hannah, Indianapolis is still one of the best cities I've lived in.
Aug. 2, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST
It really is a great artform.I just recently saw murderball and super high me
Aug. 2, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST
Aug. 2, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST
Unlike this MTV True Life piece of tripe, there are some really good under-the-radar documentaries you can find on netflix. Try Sister Helen, about a tough-talking Benedictine nun who runs a halfway house for recovering addicts. Bus 174, about a bus hijacking in Rio de Janiero and the subsequent police standoff. And, best of all, Blindsight, about a group of blind Tibetan teens who, with the help of a group of Americans, attempt to scale Mount Everest. Oh, and one more. Summercamp, about a group of kids (REAL kids, not archetypes) spending two weeks at sleepaway camp in Wisconsin. It includes a couple great unreleased songs by the Flaming Lips.
Aug. 2, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST
by bright boy
there, i gave you all a good alternative if you have to see a good doc this summer. dont be afraid to call aicn on all the payola bullshit they keep throwing at us these days. theres nothing wrong with them trying to turn tricks for money, just dont let yourself be one of the tricks. THIS JUST IN: capone had the tattoo of nuts removed from his chin and got kevin smith's nuts permanently sewn on instead.
Aug. 2, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST
I believe it was called Encounters at the End of the World. There's another alternative to this trite shite.
Aug. 2, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST
I saw the film last week and was a bit disappointed in it. Maybe because of all the hype surrounding it before the screening. I just found myself let down with the film they ended up with, knowing they had 1,000 hours of footage to work with. For instance, they say in the intro narrative that this is a conservative christian town. But they don't make any reference back to that after that mention. For instance, with that intro I would have liked to see them at least touch on Hannah's being an atheist with a gay best friend and how that plays a role in her not fitting in. I thought overall it was okay...it just didn't live up to the hype. I thought it had the potential to be a much more interesting movie with the stories they glossed over or chose not to tell than the ones they ended up telling.
Aug. 2, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST
played before american teen and it does look fuckin awesome, love a good doc.
Aug. 2, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST
There, now you don't need to see a documentary.
Aug. 2, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST
thanks for suggesting your trade, garbage. gosh, those are all hard-hitting docs you recommended. I've seen them all and they're all average, below average. Garbageman says: "This shit dumb MTV shit, you wanna see what the world really like I show you! It ugly!" Get over yourself, go back and watch Harlan County to see how it's done. BTW, American Teen was better than two of the three you suggested.
Aug. 2, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST
Do you also prefer The Hills to The Wire? And no, mentioning a 30 year old documentary doesn't suddenly give you added credibility.
Aug. 2, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST
Just did a little checking on rottentomatoes. Bus 174 is 100% fresh (72 out of 72 critics). Blindsight is 97% fresh. And Sister Helen is at 92%. In fact, out of 123 reviews of the three movies combined, 121 of them were positive. Say what you want about the reliability of rottentomatoes, but that seems pretty tough to argue.
Aug. 2, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST
About six months ago or something like that.
Aug. 2, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST
It was an embarrassment the way he acted around that tramp. And it should how much of a star fucker he could be for a shallow piece of shit. that's not even talented in slightest. Has no redeeming qualities to speak of.
Aug. 2, 2008, 6:48 p.m. CST
The review made it sound questionable then the Talkback comments made it clear...I agree that people aren't going to be "real" with a camera in their face, especially attention-whore teens.
Aug. 2, 2008, 8:44 p.m. CST
by bright boy
i admit i got lazy. it seems like they post something for this movie everyday. someone at mtv is seriously greasing their palms on this one. which is understandable as it's only made about 60,000 so far. here's something new about the movie. the nerdy dude meets some chick on myspace (who he pretends he met on vacation somewhere) and he asks her if he want to go to prom with him and be in this movie and be famous, and he probably did it thinking she was going to be fine like in her profile pics, but she's fat and ugly and he's still stoked. and they play it off like it's some great love story triumph in this dude's life, but they are setting him up for years of future predatory internet behavior by this creep. it's already started and his handle is chocolatereign and he loves giving rim jobs because his uncle used to molest him by shitting in his mouth and telling him it was chocolate (hence the screenname) and so he thinks he's eating chocolate everytime he licks asshole. is that new enough for you, cock master?
Aug. 3, 2008, 2:08 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Fuck this movie I'd rather see Tropic Thunder that looks more "real" than this.
Aug. 3, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST
This movie was the best documentary I've ever seen. What makes me laugh is when people complain about the students being cliche or stereotypes. IT'S A DOCUMENTARY. Yes, sure they can bend and twist things the way they want, but growing up in the reality age, you're a moron if you can't figure out when they're doing this. And in this movie, it's minimal. Oh, and retards, once you've had a camera following you around for two weeks, you start forgetting that it's there. I know this from experience. Go watch that 2 and a half hour bloated overrated "epic" with about the dumbest storyline I've ever seen in a comic book movie: Two-Face (who the fuck cares about that guy anyway??) and cheer excitedly when him and his mummy returns face inexplicably threaten to kill a little boy (cause that makes sense - lol) and then wonder why a 180 million dollar movie ends with a 3-way hostage argument that you can see in any episode of Jericho. Oh, and skip the snappy comeback. I won't be back to this thread. Go see this film! It's great!
Aug. 3, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST
Insulting people is a great way to get people to listen to your recommendations. I'm already checking my local listings to see when the next showing is. By the way, if this is the best documentary you've ever seen, I have to assume you're either seven years old or the only documentary you've ever seen is March of the Penguins. Have you ever heard of Hoop Dreams? Grey Gardens?
Aug. 3, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST
by bright boy
its a T2 face, not a mummy returns face you plant piece of shit. thin blue line? capturing the freidmans? hands on a hard body? all superior documentaries.
Aug. 3, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST
Is like calling "Gloria" with Sharon Stone the best mob movie ever made.
Aug. 3, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST
Seriously, is there really that much more to say about teenagers? Yes, we know, they're cliquish, self-obsessed, irritating, obnoxious, often depressed and/or angry, violent, directionless, boring, bored, and stupid. Who cares? We've all gone through it, and thankfully, some of us make it.
Aug. 3, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST
Would top my list of the best documentaries. Followed closely by GREY GARDENS.
Aug. 3, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST
The anal rape of Madonna's over-weight hair woman (Mama Make-up) alone makes it the best over.
Aug. 3, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST
by Bricktops hammer
No one said anything about Dark Tower. Drink much?
Aug. 4, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST
by bingo the clown
So someone remade The Breakfast Club with real people.