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Has BBC Let Slip A QUANTUM OF SOLACE Secret??
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
To be completely honest, I don't know anything about the following one way or the other...I'm just sharing with you what was pointed out to me by a reader named Julian.
BBC has an article about Alicia Keys and Jack White singing the theme song for QUANTUM OF SOLACE. In the article (which you can find HERE), Julian caught an interesting twist of phrase that may reveal an key plot element of the film. An element that, to the best of my knowledge, we've heard nothing about to date. Have we?
Is this a simple case of miswording? A mistake? Or, did BBC let a cat out of the bag?
POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW THIS POINT!! TURN BACK NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!
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Quantum of Solace, the 22nd official film in the 007 series, picks up from Casino Royale as the secret agent sets out to avenge the apparent death of his lover.
Apparent death?
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I liked Casino, if this one continues in that style I will be satisfied.
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I would imagine this is just an odd turn of phrase by one of the many people at the BBC who don't know how to apply the english language correctly.
If this is true they better have an explanation on par with how the 24 guys are going to get away with Zombie Almeida in January, as her death in Royale looked pretty conclusive. -
that is not cool news.
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Jul 30, 2008 9:51:47 AM CDT
They should bring back Timothy Dalton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
he was the last Bond with cigarette product-placement ya know.....
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Jul 30, 2008 9:52:53 AM CDT
Also it was cool when Dalton put Benicio del Toro
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in the cocaine cutting machine.
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Jul 30, 2008 9:54:30 AM CDT
not to mention the muthafucka can drive a rig on its side
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
whilst dodging a rocket launcher. Plus he's the only one to have bullets ricochet around him to the Bond theme.
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...when i read that article. I really hope it isn't true though. She was DEFINITELY dead. I reckon it's some idiot who wrote the copy, and knows that Eva makes 'an appearance' in the film, as has been leaked before. It's thought that that's either a flashback, or a recorded video message. I think someone didn't quite get it. Bond was with her when she died. Are we supposed to assume that he took her body to the hospital or morgue or whatever and then after he had filled out the forms or whatever they reanimated her corpse after she had clearly inhaled oodles of lovely Venice canal water? The only way she could be alive is if that wasn't actually her who died. In which case I will leave the cinema.
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Jul 30, 2008 9:55:50 AM CDT
Also he took on the King of B and C grade films
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Robert Fuckin Davi!
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I think it was just a bad choice of word. She's DEAD!
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Jul 30, 2008 9:57:20 AM CDT
Also Dalton woulda realised that his CIA buddy in
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Goldeneye, was a traitorous villain whom he'd already dispatched!!!!!!
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like no other Bond. M was lucky to live. MWAHAHAHAHAA
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its part of the trailer. and the guy that plays bond has said far more in interviews.
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he aint in the fuckin ROCKETEER!!!!!
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Jul 30, 2008 10:01:50 AM CDT
Fuck that, Connery also ain't in Flash Gordon
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
touche Dalton.....you win again.
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that would be a great film.
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I emailed this EXACT tip in two weeks back.
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A spoiler would be, "James Bond dies". This "spoiler" is like being told, "James' grandmother wears blue dresses". I mean, pick and choose your dramatic build up to spoilers. Also, I believe this description has been floating around for a while.
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didn't she drown in front of his own eyes? its not like they took her out back and shouted "BANG!!" came back and said "yeah she's dead mate."
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Main Entry:
ap·par·ent Listen to the pronunciation of apparent
Pronunciation:
\ə-ˈper-ənt, -ˈpa-rənt\
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adjective
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French apparant, from Latin apparent-, apparens, present participle of apparēre to appear
Date:
14th century
1 : open to view :visible 2 : clear or manifest to the understanding 3 : appearing as actual to the eye or mind
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suck that Connery.....
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It's in the book and the short story, and would make absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever to revive her. Her death is what shapes Bond's character. Casino Royale made it perfectly clear that she was dead and buried. We may see flashbacks to establish some connections, but that's it. Publicity statements are just that, and not necessarily by people who know the material well.
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I notice Sir Sean, that you failed to involve the genius that is ...........TIMOTHY DALTON.
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Jul 30, 2008 10:09:20 AM CDT
They should have re-cast Henry Snr in Idy five with........
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
DANANANAAAAAAAAA....................TIMOTHY DALTON.....
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Jul 30, 2008 10:10:17 AM CDT
Dammit meant Indy 4, man am I drunk...
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
DALTON RULES PEOPLE!!!!!
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This is some top news! Way to go! As I always say....Who gives a shit?
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Jul 30, 2008 10:12:48 AM CDT
Wasn't Dalton in a version of Wuthering Heights?????
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Never seen it myself but I'm guessing that he IS Heathcliff. If this is true, then take that Sean Connery!
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Climbed a mountain, killed some guys, hung on the top of a speeding truck, parachuted out of the truck before it blew up, landed on some broads yacht, took her phone away, then fucked her silly.
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Jul 30, 2008 10:14:51 AM CDT
it'll be weekend at bondie's with eva green as the corpse that w
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Fuck yeah dude. Dalton was the tops.
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Jul 30, 2008 10:18:12 AM CDT
Dalton also had to take on the power of Wayne Newton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
A FORMIDABLE FOE.
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And that AICN finally went off their rocker and posted the same story two times.
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I'd say this is the definition most people associate with the word "apparent":
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Like we didn't see that coming! Uh HELLO it's called CPR - google it!
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car wreck.
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ap·par·ent [uh-par-uhnt, uh-pair-]
1. readily seen; exposed to sight; open to view; visible: The crack in the wall was readily apparent.
WEEEAAK Merrick.
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simple...she was wearing one of those face masks that the guys from Mission Impossible use all the time to explain away ridiculous plot points...what's going on?...oh...it wasn't really him/her, it was the other dude wearing a mask!
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It's a mistake. It should say "a parent death". James will hunt down those who killed Vesper's parents: Ma and Pa Lynd. Lovely couple, used to run the donut shop on 5th.
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It's just them being wordy. In this day and age, there are no surprises in film because the Internet has made it so that everyone knows everything that happens in a movie before it comes out in the theaters. So if Eva Green had been whatsoever involved in the filming of the movie, we would've all known about it, seen the production photos from someone's damned phone, and gotten the spoiler script reviews ahead of time.
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I liked it when Carey Lowell's like, umm, no, this bedroom is for me, yours is over there, playa, and Dalton gets all pissed-like and looks at Q and says "yo azz betta not snore, or I'ze be fuckin' up yo shit". That was neat.
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In one way or another Peter O'Toole and Anthony Hopkins.
For you complete and utter tools the movie is The Lion in Winter.
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She better be. The Bond series has had enough shark-jumping moments.
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Tis true thats the techincal definition, but context is everything. Words are here to serve a purpose and be our tools - if someone says:
"The love interest died" or:
"The love interest apparently died"
the difference between the two sentences implies the additional word gives them different meanings.
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the apparent death of Harvey Two-Face.By the way, Jack White is a god.
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And he had the Equalizer and Belloq as his back-up.
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She fucking died in his arms, I aint seen the new trailers, but are you guys sure it aint just some sort of a flashback scene or something? And isnt Pacino the head honcho?
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For what it's worth, she dies in Flemings version of the story, though the original books don't count for much anymore.
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I could call my cat's death an "apparent" death after she was run over and cut in two by a truck. I assumed she was dead, obviously, especially when she never moved again. It would still be "apparent." That is not questionable word choice. It's not even poor word choice. It's perfectly valid, even when someone is deadity-dead-DEAD.
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...you reading too much into it.
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I mean it wasn't exactly like she died in a burning building. Unless she had some bionic gills with her, it wouldn't make much sense and seem like a cop out of the highest degree.
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People use the word 'apparently' all the time and totally out of place.
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The character Vesper died in the novel, never to return. If they want to stay true to the source material, she ain't comin' back.
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Jul 30, 2008 11:30:37 AM CDT
Dalton, still the most kickass Bond
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
it's a simple fact people, the man has a flamethrower lighter for fuck's sake!!!!
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Thanks again, Merrick.
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She's dead.
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Some Big News Guys....
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Jul 30, 2008 11:41:36 AM CDT
Stop talking about this ridiculous premise.....
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lets talk DALTON!!!!!The man took out the Hollywoodland sign for fucks sake!!!!!!
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If you watch the trailer it's it's in there. There is a brief glimpse of the chic he was bonin' from Casino Royale and then it cuts to bond kicking ass. So I wouldn't call this a spoiler but more a fact..!
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= this useless news item.
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is cool news to me!
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she is dead - Bond tries to rescuscitate her and fails. How can she fake drowning herself? Stopping her heartbeat and holding her breath for 10 minutes?? Sounds like it was simply an error to me, from someone who probably hasn't even seen the first film.
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If that chic returns in the new film then they'll lose all credibility. She was under water for like 30 minutes staring at bond and he at her. then she died and sank in that cage. So besides being eaten by sharks, I'm not believing that she was saved. No Way!
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That she was rescued by Timothy Dalton.
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they revoked his license and he took to a revenge of the highest order. He fucked the bad guys chick, blew up his coke, killed his personal Benecio del Toro.Then took out his truckloads of coke in a Road Warriorish frenzy of destruction and Truck driving skills, and then lit up Robert Davi like a smoke.
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Jul 30, 2008 11:59:30 AM CDT
I mean sure, you've seen Davi killed before
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
but like a giant cigarette...I think not. Take that Connery.
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She says "no." But it was more of an "mmph mmph" because she's got something big and hard stuck in her throat, if you get my meaning.
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I mean, that's a good match, she and Craig look the same age these days. But she'll still act circles around him.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:04:34 PM CDT
tonagan....you might be onta something
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
this could be the greatest twist in Bond history.By now everyone knows the Lazenby joke at the start of his flick when the slag drives off on him and he quips "This never happened to the other fella". Well now would be the pefect time to show that there are other Bonds, who either die or retire. Dalton's Bond IS BACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! It's official.
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The BBC won't have seen enough to know. That's not to say it isn't true!
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Jul 30, 2008 12:06:34 PM CDT
Fuck Eva Green, this talkback is about Dalton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Dalton has deemed it such....
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Jul 30, 2008 12:08:48 PM CDT
Yes thats right I NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
am officially Timothy Dalton...All bow to me, share your praise, watch my movies and mock me at your peril.
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DAMN YOU SIR SEAN CONNERY!!!!!!!!
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that's right - nobody was. He's forever to be remembered as 'Outer Space Robin Hood' in that seizure inducing Flash Gordon movie / rock opera by Queen.
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isn't Dalton more remembered for the Harry Potter films anyway?
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just ask Jennifer Connelly.
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Duh isn't it obvious, an identical twin sister who grew up on a volcano island. She will be the villain of the piece, then she will survive the ending battle with Bond but lose her hair and get a facial scar, and return to her volcano home to plot revenge...
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your skills at Nintendo will not help you against a License to Kill!!!!!
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Bond pulled her out of the water, gave her mouth to mouth, grabbed her boob, and then pronounced her dead. He then sat there, with her dead for a long ass time.
So unless she took some drugs that seriously decreased her heart rate so that she appeared dead, or cast the spell feign death, then she is a corps for sure.
If they bring her back, it would be worse than making money-penny a dude.
Dalton was garbage. get that guy from onher majesty's secret service back. He'd be awesome in these films. he was the first bond who actually knew how to throw a punch! -
Yes, you are absolutely correct with your posted definitions, but characterizing a death as apparent is usually done to indicate or raise doubt.
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Dalton is King. If he was in that mountain retreat, he woulda fucked all the chicks, and shot Telly Savalas in the face....in the first five minutes, followed by a kickass song. All scored by Micheal Kamen.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:22:54 PM CDT
Speed 2 recognised the greatness of Dalton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
why can't you people???????
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Jul 30, 2008 12:26:03 PM CDT
I'd like to see any one of the other Bonds have
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
a theme crank with bullet ricochets. Sorry to repeat myself, but the fact that bullets chime his theme instantly turns him into the ultimate Bond.
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Timothy Dalton sucked. Sorry.
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God I would love to post more of what the film is about. NDAs. But to all this talk back, this film will kick your ass if the director and editors pull through.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:29:55 PM CDT
Fuck Starfox, you just called on PAIN
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
your about to get a James Caan, Godfather 1, garbage can involved monster BEATING!!!!
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George Lazenby.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:31:20 PM CDT
Starfox.....were you in the Rocketeer? Thought not
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
take THAT Sean Connery.
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Well whatever man you're just a pathetic guy who's spamming so..who's the real loser here? That's all I'll say.
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matching lighter flamethrowers at dawn, oh thats right you don't have one of those......
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Jul 30, 2008 12:34:12 PM CDT
Starfox...um yeah okay, lighten up fuckwad
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Sorry, that was most un-Daltonesque of me.
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fuckwad, switch to decaf.
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you Yankee chaps are ill prepared.
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Cute, but really immature. Try again.
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The Jason bourne movies have upstaged the Bond flatulence. Bond is not relevant anymore. Meh. More Jason bourne please. (And keep Greengrass, even if they he is an apologist)
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Would Vesper's return be any more unbelievable than about a gazillion things that have already happened in the Bond movies?
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especially if your a easily offended individual like our friend Starfox.
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Your pathetic attempts at insults amuses me. Perhaps another day you might actually throw some clever wit in there. So, you know, you actually sound half-way smart and have a brain. Good day.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:40:46 PM CDT
Timothy Dalton taking out the "Land" in Hollywoodland
by mattmanreturns
Was the best explanation for the sign's alteration that I've ever seen. He kicked ass in the Rocketeer. "Where's your stuntman now?" *sock* "I do my own stunts."
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Jul 30, 2008 12:41:05 PM CDT
Starfox, you wouldn't happen to STILL play Nintendo
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
would ya baby?????
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So hopefully we get to see more of her this time. And by more I mean her glorious naked body, and by see, I mean rub that ass against me.
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Easily offended? I daresay not. Look at how offended you got when I said Dalton sucked. Did you even consider for the briefest of moments that it was sarcasm? Nope.
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all you have to do is go to Mi6.co.uk. They have a synopsis that gives the general gist of story, without spoilers.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:42:52 PM CDT
Sorry if you took that the wrong way, that was a hit up line
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I Dalton am rusty, and actually love Nintendo.
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I suggest we meet up, rolling thunder makes me jealous.
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I give up. Obviously you have gay fantasies about me and I've known you for about not even 2 minutes. Sorry man, I just don't float that way.
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I never understood why he is always considered to have saved the franchise. He made 4 Bonds, 3 of which are nigh unwatchable. Goldeneye in particular gets far more praise than it deserves. Everything upto and including the titles is great, the rest is trash. My fave so far is Dalton, but Craig could take the title if Quantum lives uoto Casino Royale.
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Jul 30, 2008 12:47:03 PM CDT
Hey rooling thunder, remember the time I Dalton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
filmed you in a glory hole, getting double-blown by Starfox and his dad....but thats enough of that, Star Fox tells the story much better.
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If you view it as a shitty game that's your own opinion, I don't care. I liked the game, and it's an old screen name that's just stuck. At least it's not something along the lines of HarryPotter'sFavoriteFan, right?
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Bond girls drown a lot, but I think going through all the trouble of making it look realistic for the first time by having Green pretend to inhale water and cough and such means they were serious about killing her.
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Most people here didn't get what he was trying to say. The spoiler being talked about is not that she died, it's the word apparent. As in she MIGHT NOT REALLY BE DEAD. Why say apparent if she's just dead?
As to she died in the noel so she's dead in the films - that doesn't really follow since they ditched most of the novel and Craig doesn't look anything like Fleming's Bond. Why would that one aspect of her being dead be sacred?
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Jul 30, 2008 1:20:09 PM CDT
Apparently, AICN is just doing any little news article...
by pirateemery
Apparently, someone's an idiot.
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If not, bring out the zombies and cancel the attempt at Bourne-esque gritty realism.
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to kill him.
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1) I love that a guy named Rolling Thunder is giving s**t to a guy named StarFox. "My video game name is better than your video game name!" BTW... Star Fox was awesome. (P.S. I'm just assuming the Rolling Thunder is a Halo reference. Feel free to flame me if I'm wrong.) 2) When a coroner says you've died of an "apparent" heart attack or "apparent" drug overdose, that doesn't mean you're not dead. 3) Saw Casino Royale. She was dead in Bond's arms for like an hour. The only way the bring her back is if she falls out of a nuked fridge. (That Indy reference never gets old!) 4) Bring back Lazenby!!
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That's a 7 tissue film right there!! It's up there with Irreversible!!
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Rescued the franchise from the aged parody of the Roger Moore years. Brosnan had a decent start but then it all went to ratshit.
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sheesh--the girl will die in every movie, duh? Man's gotta spread his seed. Can't believe he hasn't fought an army of his sons yet.
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All of the sudden, everyone's pretending they liked him all along. I call bullshit. Dalton sucked as Bond. And I don't blame him, because I think he's a good actor. I blame the screenwriters.
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been up for a bit
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Can't speak for Everybody but The Living Daylights is probably the best Bond film, IMO.
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You're on crack. Living Daylights was awful. I struggled to stay awake in it.
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There must be a deleted scene from Casino Royale where Ed Harris comes along after Bond gives up and manages to revive her by exposing her tits, yelling in her face and slapping her around a bit.
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LOL! Your Ed Harris comment made my day.
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Does this mean he does not actually avenge?? Damn the BBC for these inadvertent spoilers.
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Bond is supposed to be smooth. Anyone shouting that he wants his martini shaken, not stirred is the opposite of smooth (aka Timothy Dalton). I would love to see Vespa as a zombie though. That could make for the kinkiest Bond love scene ever!
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Before Craig, Dalton was the closest on screen representation of Bond in the Fleming novels. Perhaps the films he did were less than stellar(although I put both of them above anything Moore did, except For You Eyes Only), but Dalton himself was the shit.
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that the films include Bond involved in gay sex scenes with full frontal nudity, as Daniel Craig has. And, from what I've read, he wasn't kidding.
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The use of the word is correct. It WAS apparent. The writer is just enforcing that the lead is avenging a woman who's death was apparent to him as opposed to avenging a woman's death that he did not witness at first hand with his own eyes--i.e. an 'off-screen' death that he may have been told of. This is probably just worded this way to make it clear to anyone who hasn't seen the previous film. That's all.
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I think the only shot of Vesper in the QOS teaser comes at ~20sec in... Right after Mr White mentions her when he his taunting Bond & M during his interrogation. The shot of Vesper is a B&W flashback scene of her drowning. Tell me if I'm wrong? I personally hope they don't bring her back... But, I don't think the QOS trailer shows enough to make it a "fact" either way.
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I should probably add that I'm saying this with such confidence because I have read the screenplay and Eva Green's character does not appear anywhere. I've also read the screenplays for Bedtime Stories, and Prince of Persia and just finished going through Confessions of a Shopaholic yesterday--it's my job.
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Hey driver
where're we going? I swear my nerves are showing
Set my hopes up way too high
living's in the way we die.
Comes the morning and the headlights fade in rain
Of hundred thousand people I'm the one they frame.
I've been waiting long for one of us to say:
Save the darkness
let it never fade away -
In the living daylights
in the living daylights.
Alright
hold on tight now
it's down
down to the wire
Set your hopes up way too high
living's in the way we die.
Comes the morning and the headlights fade away
Hundred thousand changes
everything's the same.
I've been waiting long for one of us to say:
Save the darkness
let it never fade away -
In the living daylights
living daylights
living daylights.
Comes the morning and the headlights fade away
Hundred thousand people
I'm the one they frame
In the living daylights
in the living daylights.
Living daylights
- set your hopes up way too high
Living daylights
- living's in the way we die -
Living daylights
- set your hopes up way too high -
Living daylights
- living's in the way we die -
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Game over. Maybe they meant apparent forced suicide.That explains the "revenge" angle.
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Vesper commits suicide in the book, but then the follow up to cr is lald so book continuity is out the window
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Just keep that in mind.
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He's just fucking awesome in The Living Daylights - killer performance.
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Breaking down every sentence word by word leads to poor rumors like this circulating.
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of prices.
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What we need is a SPYZ movie. Ali G in the woods with a videocamera? What more can you want?
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I thought Merrick might want to remove it, just so that everybody and their brother doesn't have to read a story about how he doesn't know the meaning of the word "apparent."
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This "idiot" really appreciates your pre-emptive apology. Connery was the best film Bond overall, but if you think what he portrays on screen is closest to the written character, I have to question who the real idiot is.
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and the best Bond ever. Connery rules, but is nothing compared to Dalton.
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http://adamcohenisnotgay.blogspot.com/
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He got Bond down pat. If you've read the series of books he is the perfect bond. The look, action and dangerous appearance is all there. OHMSS was the closest damn thing we'll ever see to a direct adaptation of any of the Flemming books.
Coneery did OK in DR. No. And Casino Royal was ok, but over complicated things for a more hollywood feel. Moore was just sad sad sad.
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If you DID read the screenplay, then don't just drop that - give us some details. How does it begin? How does it end? Did you like it? Any surprises? Or you can just do the quick easy thing and send it to RudeRabbit@aol.com
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THE BITCH IS DEAD...
he said it and he meant it
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Not dead. She's dead as Dillinger.
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wouldnt Eva be on the IMDB page or can they block the all seeing eye that is IMDB?
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She's pretty much dead.
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Couldn't care any less about QOS than I did about CR. Both have Craig and Craig ain't Bond. I'll chime in with the other posters here and say that Dalton was an alright Bond. At least he looked like he could be Bond, unlike the Barney Rubble we're stuck with for now.
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Sorry Craig isin't pretty enough for you.
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I kinda know where you're coming from but you know Daniel Craig is an amazing actor. He first came to light on a bbc tv show called "Our Friends in the North". Seriously, if you saw this show, you'd understand how charismatic he actually is as an actor. I think he's made Bond cool again. To be honest, Bond is just an old tired idea and personally I wouldn't miss it if they stopped making them.
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I have no idea where you're coming from becuase I loved the new direction they took bond in. He is the ultimate hardass alpha male, the way it should be and apparently much closer to the source material (which I'm all for) to me he destroys all the other bonds, and I thought most people hated Dalton and he was universally thought of as the worst, am I missing something? I loved Casino Royale and hate pretty much all the other bond movies
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the last couple movies, they were like cartoons with the level or ridiculous going on, dalton and brosnan come off like smarmy assholes, connery is more badass and craig is uber badass
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have
1.a bond girl equal, a "tough" female partner who stands up to bond
2.an old flame
3.cranky-PMS M giving her psychobabble speeches
4.a traitor in MI6 or betrayal
5.bond runs around like the energizer bunny
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Not a single post about it? Come on AICN. Cheech & Chong announced their reunion tour this morning. They had press conference today and everything. Even dressed in character hehe. What would Cheech & Chong look like in 2008? Take a look - http://tinyurl.com/6bt97s
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If the only Bond film you've ever liked is CR, then guess what? You're not a Bond fan. Go find another franchise, dickweed. Excuse me...MISTER Dickweed. I know exactly what Thot is saying - Bond is supposed to be sophisticated and cool under pressure and charming and enjoy life/the ladies/luxury. He's not supposed to be the ULTIMATE HARDASS (oooh) monosyllabic scowling muscle-bound one-note asshole with the face of a boxer on a losing streak and the class of a Dorito chip. Are we clear? Turning Bond into every other grim "tortured" hero out for "revenge" reeeeeeally misses the fucking point of Bond - which is fun escapism and wish-fulfillment. Craig just does not have an ounce of the suaveness and ease that Bond should have. If you guys don't like those qualities, then you've got the wrong hero. Go watch an Arnold movie from the 80s. I'm not a Star Trek fan, so...check this out...I don't come on here and tell them to completely change their franchise. Or like one poster did, tell them to quit making the films!!! I can't believe how many non-Bond fans have an outspoken opinion on the matter... If you don't like guns, girls, gadgets, and humor along with grit and grunting, then THIS, SERIES, IS, NOT, FOR, YOU. Because once people get over this honeymoon period with "realism", Bond will be back the way I like it and most everybody likes it.
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In your fashe, Cleft Chin.
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Just before Vesper died, an opening in the Space-Time Continuum opened, and out came Maude Adams' Octopussy in a damaged submarine. Turns out she was fighting four SPECTRE submarines trying to defend a Russian outpost, and according to history, fled - thus creating a new world where everybody is at war. By going back into the rift, the sub and her crew will be destroyed. Vesper goes with Octopussy back to the past to save the peace between the UK and USSR. However, the plot thickens...the sub wasn't destroyed - there were survivors! Vesper is taken as a consort by SPECTRE agent 86, and they have a child together.
That is how Vesper returns...it's not her, it's her DAUGHTER!!! How is that for a plot twist? -
The sister died, the woman he loved is still alive. It could work. Call me crazy but isn't there a mysterious woman in a blond wig at some part in the casino who looks just like Vesper? I've probably got it wrong and that WAS actually Vesper in disguise for some reason, or it was LeChiffre's girl. Not sure...
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...that she is dead. However, it is always nice to see Eva Green naked.
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I just checked. FFS why didn't I realise that before? She looks like Eva Green anyway.
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"This is just the type of tactics that you can expect from a Republican war hero loving guy like Ian Flemming. Elect me and I will change the dishope of Washington and the world. I will be President of Earth! I deserve it! I will make all movies to be perfect epics where everyone will aspire to be as good as ME! In my perfect world, we will all just get along and sing 'Cum by ya!'"
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The fuck your name is. Shut the fuck up you conservative stooge! Yeah, cuz you guys have done such a great job the last eight years. You put a complete idiot in the White House - I'll take a Democrat this time.
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It is probably the writers opinion!
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Is that the best you can do? Your defense of Obama is exemplary of his inexperience! BTW, before you go stereotyping all of those "evil" conservatives out there -- remember that some of us are highly educated minorities who don't buy the lies that spew from the mouth of blind liberals everywhere. So with that, FUCK YOU, my morally deficient liberal feminazi fiend! Don't you have an Obamacock to suck somewhere? Or is the media taking turns and leaving the runts out to dry?
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...the last Bond film was pretty good.
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Bond has his revenge via landing a blow with his secret telescoping MI6 cock to the base of her skull ...Awww that was a little much I guess didnt like her much in the movie..but never the less I hope she stays dead..SORRY!
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is because characters that are born of Scot/Swiss parentage usually dont turn out as Negroid.
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I mean, giant green radiocative lizards have had an unfair lock on that part for 50 years. Bastards.
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"Apparent" means "clear-cut," "blatant" and "obvious." You've lost all credibility!
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I mean, how the hell can they bring Eva Green back? We saw her drown for fuck's sake....then again Bobby Ewing WAS in the shower....
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You're a closet homosexual. Try to keep up.
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When James Bond (Craig) was applying CPR to Vesper (Green) and his hand was on her boob. Like the full hand was groping her boob.....lucky bastard.
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Jul 30, 2008 9:34:49 PM CDT
If "apparent" true, there will be no cover for "Crapsino" fanati
by kabong
Oh, yeah, evil twin will work ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Doofus Bond will look even stupider.
Bring back Brosnan . . . even with the invisible car.
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Craig was buff and badass. James Bond should be able to look like he can kick ass. Brosnan looks like he would break his wrist punching somebody.
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Glad to see Dalton getting some love. His bond ruled. Connery sucked. "I'll take the rapists for 500, Alex". Friggin Connery.
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There has never been a black Bond for the same reason there has never been a white Shaft or a part Japanese Superman (wait, there was one of those). Racial idenity is a part of character. James Bond may be reinvented every so often, but I'd bank on him always being a white, heterosexual Englishman. Otherwise, he'd be called someone else.
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The Untouchables proves how epic Sean Connery is.
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er...NoMoreDirtyJokes or something...what you been up to lately?
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Best Bond plus ZARDOZ! Let's see Dalton pull off the giant orange diaper!(um, let me rephrase that)
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First off, don't patronize me you fuckin' Plebe, secondly I like Bond as somewhat believable not a cartoon, and your description of Craig is way off base and makes me question your sexuality, he's too "beat up looking" are you serious with that? and he is quite smooth with the ladies in the movie(guessing that made you jealous or something?), but guess what when killing people and living a life of isolation are in your job description well that will turn a man cold. And your right, I'm not a fan of the OLD bond bullshit but I am a fan of this new direction, so who's getting left behind? that would be you, so go watch Die Another Day and the World is Not Enough, masturbate and cry yourself to sleep, cause this ain't your Bond anymore...so now it would seem that this series is NO LONGER for you, and you can keep your grit and grunting (gay) I'm guessing you prefer the campy batman tv show to the dark knight considering you penchant for not sticking to the source and liking campy, outdated garbage... <3
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If only it were true. Loved that film.
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"That is THERAPISTS, Sean!" Loved those sketches. "No Sean, not the R's""That's what your mother said last night, Trebek!"
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...not that she is actually back, but one of the plot arc is Bond coming across information that she *may* be alive. Of course, she could still turn out to be dead [I think she should stay dead] and it may turn out to be just a mindfuck by the big villian. Come to think of it, would make sense. Bond is about to kill the guy and he suddenly reveals [falsely] that Vesper maybe alive... and a possibility of her being alive providing him the titular Quantum of Solace. PS: how do I insert breaks between paras in here?? noob talkbacker, longtime reader here.
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i just had my friend sit me down and try to explain to me why timothy dalton was the best bond. i'm just dumbfounded. anyway, APPARENT death? hmmm. i think when you say that with an english accent it's meant to mean "WE SAW IT, IT HAPPENED." not "WE SAW IT, IT'S NOT CONFIRMED." Slow news day, folks. This, Dakota Fanning, and AND Freddy Prinze joining the WWE? Ooh, shit.
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well, we aren't dealing with an action director on QOS, so expect to sit through more well drawn character devolopment and drama. i thought the action in CR was pretty wild. i was satisfied. i hope you understand though that they had to reintroduce james bond. that's tough to do when he's hanging from wires, driving cars, and shooting people. QOS hopefully will have the same balance CR had. call me crazy, but i'd accept a bit more character devolopment than action! totally subtract any tacked on building collapses. yes, i agree that part was lame.
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to the events in Casino Royale or its all part of the opening titles. I would think its part of some dream sequence or in bonds case a nightmare, where he cant forget about the woman he loved and lost. this fuels his thirst for revenge.
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while i don't think there will be MORE action sequences, i imagine they will be drawn out quite a bit in QOS. there won't be any drawn out texas hold 'em scenes. there won't be any romantic smooching on the beach and such. i think this will be a fast, focused, complicated revenge film that will show us how nasty bond can be when you fuck with his emotions. i'd love it if they used this oppurtunity to not let bond out of the camera lense, if they just followed him and analyzed his misery and his method of coping. with his rage. and with the bad guys. this movie is pretty much set to kick ass. watch!
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fantastic. but the movie got bogged down with the casino part. IT slowed the movie down to the point where when it came to the end, the thrill was gone. While all the exteriors were shot in Italy, the building collapse was filmed in pinewood. The point of Le chiffre's demise is that you realise how ruthless QUANTUM is. the man we all thought was the big bad wasnt. WE will learn who that is in Quantum of Solace. anyone if Pacino is the puppetmaster. or is that bollox. It was a rumour that surfaced on this site sometime ago. on the actually site. not the talkback.
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I heard that action wise this movie is full on. very intense. that is what Daniel Craig said, when he was asked while promoting that film about the washed up movie star, that he and is friend produced, flashbacks of a fool.
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Solace and he said it was the most demanding thing he has ever done. Bigger, faster more intense.
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anyone wanna see me dodge a missile in an eighteen wheeler?
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is from russia with love, connery and robert shaw going toe to toe as assassins on opposite sides. there's nothing better in life.
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it would the characters 'apparent' misogony...hmmmm
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...is undoubtedly the best Bond film. The fight between Bond and Red Grant in the train compartment is classic.
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1. From Russia With Love2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service3. Goldfinger4. GoldenEye5. Casino Royale (2006)I'm also quite fond of Dr. No, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, and yes, Tomorrow Never Dies.
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1. A View To A Kill2. Moonraker3. License To Kill4. Octopussy5. Die Another Day
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Jul 31, 2008 8:04:01 AM CDT
I Timothy Dalton hereby challenge Finding Forrestal
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
to a duel. Matching cigarette detonators at dawn my friend.....
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I can say that this is most probably just a bad choice of wording, as I have had many press release material pass my eyes using some godawful phrases as they are written by people who have a certain lack of interest in the material and as such just slap anything down - anyone who saw the first UK TV play of the new Tomb Raider trailer on BBC last weekend will have seen a prime example - the dumbass 'tech' person (who clearly wasn't all that techy or just did zero research) said that the game was called Underworld because the game was set underwater. There is one underwater level. Unless its something to do with us defending ourselves (such as in the case of the recent fines) it would appear no one pays much attention I guess!
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You tell young Dalton I'm gonna paint Paradise Square with his blood. Two coats. I'll festoon my bedchamber with his guts.
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Jul 31, 2008 8:33:51 AM CDT
Excellent, Dalton likes his prey stuffed with pride
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
exactly like a gas tanker stuffed with cocaine, that I flip at will to dodge missiles....
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I do my own stunts.
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In the early 90's, I was working in a Film/Broadcast Videotape supply store in Hollywood. I was standing at the counter and who walks in but James Bond himself. He was about to leave for a National Geographic special he was hosting about wolves, and wanted the best possible Hi-8(ancient videotape format now)that he could get for his personal camera. I spent 20 minutes giving him all specs on various manufacturers, and he bought a shitload. The guy was a class act all the way, and very funny. And none of the douchebags I worked with in the office had the slightest idea who he was. I lost much of the little respect I had for any of them that day.
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Dalton was defeated by chewing gum, if you'll remember.
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Awesome story. In all seriousness, Dalton is a total badass and I'd be honored to die by his hand.
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I see... So you like the Bond with the ridiculous muscles and constant cheek-sucking pout and the shot of him coming out of the ocean like Ursula Andress as a plum-smuggling Mr. Universe and I'm the one who's gay? Okay. That's the "grit and grunting" I was talking about, a kind of Gladiator homoeroticism you obviously get off on.
Enjoy. Both
Dalton and Craig are "gayer" in their attempts at dour toughness, then Brosnan ever was simply because he happened to be better looking than most of us. And dont worry, asswipe, my Bond will be back - more in this film and definitely more and more in every film after that, especially when Craig moves on to the arthouse films where he belongs. I have 20 films to support my argument, you have 1 - I'll bet on MY Bond being what the public wants in the long run. But don't worry, I hear they're making another Conan... He'll have muscles and be oiled up - be right down your alley. -
"If you don't like guns, girls, gadgets, and humor along with grit and grunting, then THIS, SERIES, IS, NOT, FOR, YOU." actually you were saying grit and grunting were part of the old shitty movies (that you like)...why hold a grudge that the guy is buff? He should be hes a trained killer asshole, not enough man hair on his jest (you like bears don't you you cheeky guy) Question? What is the highest grossing bond film of all time? Answer, Casino Royale, so what does that mean? That modern audiences love this new direction, it's not going anywhere, did you see the dark knight returns? What was the hero like in that one? Oh yeah, he's DARK and REAL, that movie is making a little cash right? hmmm what do studios see, $$$$$ BINGO, I'm sorry to crush your hopes and dreams I really am, but the facts speak for themselves...also keep in mind this is a REBOOT of the character complete with origin story, this take on the character is not going anywhere and thats a good thing cause its fresh, not tired, you've got your 20 movies go enjoy them but its a new era my friend...DEAL
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the above subject line should be and...here...we...GO
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You got me, I worded my sentence badly. I'm sure that completely nullifies my point of view. First of all, EVERY Bond film of the last ten years has made the most money in the series to that point. (Go ahead, look it up) That's because the Bond name means something to audiences. Why? Because of the 20 movies that you so gleefully shit on. So, you're saying you're in touch with what people want, just not for the 45 years before that. Bond has been going on longer than you, because the formula and the character are a great fantasy and wish-fulfillment. This fad of "grit and grunting" (got it now?) is not going to last. People ultimately want to have fun at a movie, not be pummeled to death. I liked the first two Bournes (the third sucked) and there's a place for that kind of film. But Bond is about enjoying life (yes it is, Fleming called himself a "sensualist" who loved all the finer things in life), not being a "cold" killer. Sorry. And yeah, The Dark Knight was too grim and overwrought for my tastes - I'll take Batman Begins, which gets the balance right. These are just popcorn films, and ultimately you find out how successful they are by how often you want to see them again. I don't have much desire to pop in Casino Royale - I've seen it twice and that's enough. The new one will probably be better because it will have more fun action and less melodramatic angst...I hope. But I know people will get tired of the dour Bond pretty fast. We'll see. I get a big kick out of all these comic book and superhero fans who want more grit from Bond. It's so ironic and they so don't get it, it cracks me up.
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Learn English you fucks.
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listen I shouldnt say I hate the older films(although for the most part I am not a fan), I just really prefer this take on the character and I personally loved Casino Royale and prefer it to the previous incarnations, didn't fleming also call Bond "a Gorilla in Tuxedo" as someone above stated? I'd say Craig nails that aspect more then any of the other guys(horrifying muscles, face and grunting all) some people may not see that as a good thing or as a compliment but they would be missing the point. And that point is if Fleming said he's a gorilla in a tux, one, thats a fuckin sweet image, two hes a goddamn gorilla in a tux, not some whimsical, smarmy playboy, and I can see it being about enjoying life, because of the exotic settings, action and beautiful women the series is known for... that does not have to carry over into the protagonist though, he should be a man on a mission, the stakes are high, he shouldnt be enjoying himself he should get the job done... And I can watch CR over and over (aside from being a bit long in the tooth) it's a beautiful film, has an engaging and believable story, insanely gorgeous women, some great action set pieces, really what you would expect from a bond film really but grounded in reality, I like believability mixed in with my fantasy in most cases (why I really love this new take on batman) time to agree to disagree as we are getting redundant... "got it now?" your the one who fucked that up in the first place so dont try to make me look like the stupid asshole that "didnt get it". Oh yes because all comics are so dark and gritty and the movies based off of them are so dark and gritty, aside from batman (which is a DARK character) and watchmen which is a deconstruction (more on that in a minute) what the hell are you talking about? SM/IM/SR are all bright fantasy wish fulfillment, Once something gets tired and becomes a parody of itself (like the GOD AWFUL last few bond movies before CR) then it comes time to reinvent and deconstruct the character to get more mileage out of it and make it interesting again, this was accomplished by CR, it made James Bond relevant again because despite box office numbers, the name James Bond was selling those bad movies(as you yourself indicated), it would have inevitably turned around if they had kept cranking out shit like that, lucky for little bond fans like you, they didnt...
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1) Fleming never called Bond a "gorilla in a tuxedo" - unless he was talking about Connery, who he didn't think was cultured enough at first, but who he later came to like. And Connery had so much more natural class than Craig does. He was tough yes, but suave, and always enjoyed himself in the midst of danger. This last is the ESSENCE of Bond. He enjoys life in the face of danger. I don't see that in Craig at all - I see a dour one-note asshole. 2) How do you tell a story about those finer things and leave the protagonist out of it? That doesn't make any sense at all. I'm sorry, you're clearly not a fan of James Bond, the character that people have enjoyed for decades - that's fine... Bond has never been a brooding depressed character, period. 3) You may not be stupid, but I don't think you understand what irony is. Of course I know most superhero stories are not dark, that's why it is IRONIC that fans of that genre turn around and want Bond, a much more plausible character, to be as gritty and dark as possible. He's still a fantasy figure, who just thankfully doesn't wear tights. So it's just funny how "real" they want him to be and then go argue about what powers a superhero should have. Gimme a break. 4) Only DAD was a bad film really and it wasn't because it was so out there, but because it had a shit director. Brosnan was perfect as Bond, he just never got the perfect Bond movie. And 5) Next time you argue with someone on here, don't call them gay because they like something other than you. It's an infantile "insult" and it makes you look like an idiot.
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And ANGRY. I should stress that, Bond has never been an ANGRY character. Anyway, like what you like, but you're not really a Bond fan, you're a TOURIST. Same as I like only ONE Harry Potter film...POA, naturally.
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Jul 31, 2008 1:45:46 PM CDT
Fuck all you cunts who don't talk only about Dalton
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
If you paid attention you would understand this talkback is about Me, Dalton, using my lighter flamethrower, tipping Rigs on their sides to dodge rockets and revenging shark involved deaths......
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Jul 31, 2008 1:48:21 PM CDT
See you chaps tomorrow, Dalton must sleep
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Finding Forrestal, I shall have at you in the morn......
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"5) Next time you argue with someone on here, don't call them gay because they like something other than you. It's an infantile "insult" and it makes you look like an idiot." HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET, you inferred that I was gay three times in your second post and you called daniel craig and dalton gay, so nice job there you stupid fuck (or maybe it should be infantile idiot?) But let's examine that further, who called ME out when I said I didnt like their beloved bond movies? THAT would be YOU calling me a dickweed (I can hardly think of a more juvenile insult then that, albeit it a funny one thanks to anchorman) and it was fired at me when I hadnt said a damn thing to you directly...so once again dont patronize me, hyporcrite. You also clearly missed the irony in me jokingly inferring that you were gay because you didnt want a ripped bond (you know cause gay guys would so be into that and your not) so who doesnt get irony again? And where are all these comic book people crying out for a more serious bond? It seems ironic because IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE, but it has to happen to actually be ironic... I also find it interesting that you didnt address my claim that the character is TIRED and needed new life, not a mention of that, as you have said he's been kicking around cinemas for over 20 years, it was time for a change AND THE PEOPLE LOVE IT, with the success of the DARK knight I dont really see dark anti heroes going anywhere, if anything they will make it MORE dark now, LOL...
*looks down* yup, mine's bigger haha -
dont get me wrong I'm loving your work, keep it up! I'm sending rockets and sharks your (and Dalton's) way right now...I'm confident they will find their target with minimal dodging
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Whatever, dude. Have a nice day, godspeed, and all that.
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you just got owned, how's it feel? Well that was fun, I'm kinda bummed you backed down... bottom line though we have different tastes which is fine, just try to be less of a patronizing hypocrite and you'll get further in the world and invite less dyanmite pwnage from champions like me ;) Achilles Out
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20 films/ 45 years, the bottom line is you got destroyed
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because he doesn't look tough.
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Craig looks like an enforcer who should be guarding M or the front door at Vauxhall HQ. -
like he's sucking on a lemon or something.
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Maybe she did drown, but in a deleted scene Ed Harris revived her?
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She died in his freaking arms...she's certainly and most definitely not still living.
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enough to think Vesper was dead when she was just holding her breath to deceive him . . . .
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Aug 01, 2008 12:42:51 AM CDT
If I Dalton, had a woman die in my arms
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
my license to kill would be revoked, such would be my revenge....
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Aug 01, 2008 12:45:25 AM CDT
Plus I have one trick up my sleeve all other Bonds do not
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
My hugely powerful cock-elbow.
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