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See The Return Of Clone Commander Cody!! Almost 4 Minutes Of STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS Is Now Online!!
Merrick here...
3 mintues and forty-something seconds of the forthcoming STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS CGI extravaganza is online over at Yahoo via both streaming video and several forms of Glorious QuickTime.
The sequence features Anakin, Obi-Wan, and tons of Clone Troopers in battle against Trade Federation Battle Droids. You can also get a good since of the huge(ish) score by Kevin Kiner (the WING COMANDER movie with David Arnold, and ENTERPRISE).
I'm working from my laptop today, which doesn't exactly have stellar sound. At 1:43 into the clip, does one of the Clone Troopers yell "Right on!"?
SEE IT HERE!!!
Some friend that POS Cody turned out to be...
SEE IT HERE!!!
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Rot George Lucas, you destroyed my dreams!
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Left Alone
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Jul 28, 2008 11:10:29 AM CDT
I want to see some Original Trilogy era stories done in this sty
by slone13
Give me a Han and Chewie adventure before they ever met Luke and Obi Wan. We could have some Jabba in there, plenty of Boba Fett, some Lando. C'mon it'd be great. Please?
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weak.
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Lucas has sucked the life out of Star Wars and now Indiana Jones. Thanks so much, George. Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder appear to be the new guys on the block these days. Lucas and now Spielberg, are officially dinosaurs. RIP fellas.
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trailer wasn't that bad, just imagine if that was live action, and lucas DIDN"T direct . . . that action was far better than anything in the prequels
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Looks a million times better than the prequels. I know, that's not saying much.....
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seriously, how much story can you tell in this saga? The next movie is gonna be around what happened between the times Anakin was taking and shit and when the federation all went on their lunch break.
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I hope they use phrases like 'Totally' and 'LOL' and 'LIKE WHATEVER'..
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Jul 28, 2008 11:18:09 AM CDT
That CGI Anakin was even a better actor than that other tosser
by _snakeplissken_
Make a CGI movie of the Thrawn Trilogy with original cast voices.. as if Harrison Ford would say no
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Totally irrelevant, yet eerily poignant. I thank you.
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Jul 28, 2008 11:20:30 AM CDT
"PG for sci-fi action violence throughout, brief language and mo
by siouxfire
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unless you're six years old.
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Jul 28, 2008 11:21:50 AM CDT
Yesterday I found out that the creators of Megas XLR...
by derlanghaarige
...are now writing for Clone Wars!
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http://tinyurl.com/5l2kqx
I thought I should share this little interview with you. The way Lucas tries to brand his name all over Raiders and call it a tie on KOTCS is dumbfounding. And that comes from someone who doesn't hate Indy IV. -
your laptop doesn't have stellar sound, but it surely has nice voice recognition software. Or do you really think "getting a good since" is proper English? :-)
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There was some pretty imaginative stuff in that series. Would have made a nice modern show had it been released a few years later and focused more on the mature stories found in the later seasons. It just got dicked over by ABC.
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I'm still going to see it.
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Jul 28, 2008 11:29:55 AM CDT
The Phantom Menace really IS the same as the flames on Optimus..
by ninjarap
Once, all the kids thought it was cool to hate it, and now those same kids have finally come around and are stating "It's actually kinda neat."
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But... I *liked* ReBoot...!
Speaking of which, anyone know what's doing with that proposal to bring it to the big screen? ReBoot I mean, not Star Wars - I don't think Star Wars is having any problems in that department. -
It had some nice little touches here and there. Still, the character designs for the humans are terrible, and what the fuck was up with those clone troopers kicking and punching the robots? You have guns morons.
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My lord can we please move along from the Clone Wars.
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I have a 9 year old, off course we´ll be there. And so will you!
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Of course I'm referring to Spencers comment above.
To me, it revealed 3 things:
1, Spielberg wanted to make the new Indy more like the old ones. 2, Lucas does acknowledge the inflation thing when it comes to comparing box office, 3, I'm confused by his usage of the word "esoteric". I think he means "uncommercial". -
At some point star wars has become an unfocused mess .Scenes consist entirely ,of loads of shit flying around the screen shooting at other loads of shit.Just because cg makes it easy, to put loads of the same things on screen at once,Doesn't mean you have to .Plus it just looks like a playstation 2 *cut-scene* to me.
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Jul 28, 2008 11:44:29 AM CDT
That part with the trooper jumping over the rock is t errible
by squashua
Redo it!
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why does it have to use such cliched childish dialogue? Its a war for godsake its should be brutal and harrowing.
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the human designs so so damn freakish. It was great with Gennedy's hand drawn style, but this? Everybody looks like they were shoved in a pressure chamber and then somebody opened the door.
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they're havin lasers aimed in the air like artillery because you know, laser just has ballistic behaviour like an artillery shell.
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So they may have ballistic behavior.
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I've played video games that looked better then this. That cartoon "Barnyard" that my kids watch looks better then this. I'll pass.
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And he did it to Lucas' face.
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...umm, you mean massive battle scenes in CGI?? Nope, never seen that before in a Star Wars movie..This does look entertaining in a milk-the-franchise-for-all-its-worth kind of way.
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Obi Wan stealing a line from Lawrence of Arabia.
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I mean, they are only a bunch of circuits, its not like they have to worry about collateral damage... just launch some big-ass bombs there and erase the fucking droids out of the planet, instead of sending jedis and clones to die over and over... it doesnt make sense.
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Are ya kidding? This looks like a lot of fun and millions will turn out for it as always. And why does everyone keep expecting friggin' dialogue by David Mamet or Tarantino? That's not "Star Wars." "Star Wars" is simple shit like "I have you now!" and "I'll never join you!" Stuff kids can say when they're playing with their action figures in the backyard. Seriously, for anyone who says "Star Wars" is a dead horse and no one is interested, you obviously have no perspective of the world outside of Internet Message Boards. As long as there are kids, there will be "Star Wars." The saga has always been and always will be designed for, aimed at, and intended for kids. And kids will always love it until they outgrow it and move on to headier fare. Sadly, a pathetic subset of these kids won't be able to let go of the fact that what they loved as kids no longer makes them feel like kids anymore.
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I mean, come on, its for kids. If you are expecting it to effect you the same way you did when you are 10, I suggest you seek counseling. It just burns me up what we barely got any of the Clone Wars in the actual fucking movies! They should have started in Episode 1, continued in Episode 2 (ending with Anakin turning), and concluded in Episode 3 (the lion's share of which would focus on Vader hunting down Jedi).
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I CANNOT wait for the midnight release line. It looks to be the best movie this year just after Prince Caspian.
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here come the battle droids, we had better get the clone troopers ready to fight, look they have the giant tall robot, let us get in our giant space-howitzers, look it's a super battle droid, get the clone jet pack troopers ready, oh no here come the hover tanks, etc. bad animation, uninteresting story points. spoiler alert: he turns into darth vader. presides over the shortest-lived "empire" ever. loses two death stars. turns good in the end. everyone scratches their heads. wtf was that all about?
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Hate him all you must, but he is one of the richest men on the planet. I'm sure he has considerably access to some of the finest *cough* "escorts" the world's oldest profession has to offer.
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Lately, George has been likin' him some dark meat. His girlfriend of the past couple o' years has been a very successful African-American woman in the Bay Area. Like I always say: Ain't nothin' wrong with a little cream in the coffee.
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OMG! This movie / toy commercial I loved when I was 8 somehow doesn't have the same profound effect upon me as it did then! WAH!!! I'm so angry I'm going to vomit with rage all over my enormous stomach as I eat another 35 hoagies. WAAAAH!!! Later on I'll see the movie several times in the theatre opening day and then meticulously detail how much I "hated" it! WAAAH!!! WAAAAAAH!!!
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Spike Lee movie to follow.
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DAGOBAH FEVER!!!
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Yup, George's main squeeze is Melody Hobson. Very attractive black woman and quite successful in her own right -- millionaire investment manager, head of her own firm, etc. Here is a pic of the two:
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Just do a Google image search on her name, Melody Hobson.
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THIS is the animated feature that cries out for the 3D process. Although eyeballs may melt due to all the mayhem on screen.
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What's the difference between blasters and lasers? Don't they both use high-energy light? Of course light reacts to gravity/mass, but not nearly enough.
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That is all.
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Originally the idea was that during the clone wars, Jedi were being cloned as well as the troopers, and some of the Jedi clones would become evil.....
That would have made a much better movie
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With all the red and blue lasers flashing (and few people falling to them) I thought I was stuck in an 80s GI Joe cartoon. A long time ago, in a galaxy that was MEH
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Shit sandwich
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Hey, she's pretty cute! Nice one, George, you old fat neck.
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Is there anything about this franchise that ISN'T just a cash grab anymore? The cliched as all hell Star Wars "franchise" is more shameless than Disney. Think about that for a second.
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Come to think of it, Star Wars at this point is the man child equivalent of Hannah Montana.
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Lucas give it up. You've lost it a long time ago.
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Are you telling is anything we don't know? Sure its a fucking HUGE industry. But its fun, and it gives me nostalgia giddies, and millions of people feel the same way. You can blast gaping holes in the whole thing, its not difficult to do. You're not going to convince anyone otherwise. Its sort of like my long standing hatred of T2. I'll never change anybody's mind about it, because die hard fans will love it anyway, despite its myriad faults and gaping holes. Geek love and fandom is the most subjective thing there is.
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"its fun, and it gives me nostalgia giddies"
Congratulations. To mee, this battle was boring and no match for that drawn cartoon series about the clone wars. So I propose you go see this and I go see The Dark Knight when it opens 23rd of August. In Germany, that is. Fucking sucks. -
why does it look so cheap. the cg is cheap, the action is cheap, the acting is cheap. Fuck Lucas spend some of your fucking money! i know you can spare some!
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Regardless, these stories still connect. Proof? When the sixth film in a cycle can still clear $380 million, when Toys R Us stores still open at midnight for new waves of toys based on that three-decade-old franchise, when thousands of families each year make a point of booking their Disney vacations on "Star Wars Weekends," and when a convention celebrating the anniversary of a film released in 1977 can still draw tens of thousands of fans ... I think it's safe to say "Star Wars" still connects. And, believe me, if any of you came up with an idea such as "Star Wars" and were able to execute on various levels of multimedia (cue the studio audience laugh track), you'd try and make as much money off of it as you could.
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in my universe, and Christian Haydensen never appears as a ghost at the end of "Jedi." Nor is there a musical number at Jabbas palace. And the sarlaac doesn't have a beak
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good for him.
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since I just posted a "reimagening" idea in the robin hood talkback I might as well do it here:
Lucas remakes Star Wars, but this time drops all the pretention of creating a "fantasy/scifi-movie". This time he does it in a way that everyone gets it:
Politicians like Palpatine always secretly create new dangers (Droid Army) and let them threat and attack their very own country (The Republic). Then they say "oh look we're getting attacked so you have to surrender all your rights and all your money so that we can establish a fucking torturing empire and buy new shiny weaponry (Clone Army) to face the "threat"". -
Enjoy THE DARK KNIGHT. I've seen it twice, once in IMAX. Going to see it again this week probably as I totally fucking loved it. It really is totally fucking amazing. Easily the best movie of the year. See? It is possible to like more than one thing, even things that are wildly opposite each other in terms of tone and content. Who knew?
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...and nobody cares any more 'cause there's nothing more to fuck up.
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I found it a terrific read myself. Quite clueless the way Lucas is reducing the future of filmmaking to faster CGI calculation and better texturing. Seems like he never felt the artistic need to challenge his views and renew himself. Just because it still brings a comfortable income doesn't mean he HAS to keep the status quo.
Besides, I have the feeling the animated SW won't thrive at the box office. It may be a decent TV program, but I doubt it needed the big screen treatment. Wake me up when they give the episodes free DVDs inside cereal boxes. -
Really? He's in the top 100 most wealthy people on the planet. I mean he might suck as a director, but he's fucking rich, and he's still making money hand over fist. Of course, this says nothing of his waning abilities as a director (although ROTS was a nice final nod to when he didn't suck so much), but he's far from "finished." Don't be silly.
And oh yeah, its easy to get laid even when your poor, I know I've banged plenty of chicks whilst living on ramen and weed in my younger more slackery days, but your access to hotter girls is directly proportional to bank account. Ain't no scrub banging Angelina Jolie, ain't no scrub have a chance. -
except for bits & pieces of 1 & 2. 3 was good, but Lucas' dialogue was wooden, and directing the drama was bad. Apparently Spielberg helped out in the sequence of the final lightsaber duel. Bad prequels is what audiences got when Kasdan, Kershner, Kurtz and Brackett were not there to contribute. They were a critical catalyst to OT success.
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OMG! What a bold stance to take, geodesigns! You're really riding the razors edge there. NOBODY has that opinion. Next you'll really tear the roof off the sucker by letting us all know your opinion of Jar Jar, the worlds most beloved fictional character. I bet you thought he sucked too! Such a maverick you are! SO PUNK ROCK! Dear god, the very establishment of all known realities is collapsing! HELP! WHY DID YOU OPEN PANDORAS BOX OF UNKNOWABLE HERESIES? WHY?!?!?!
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Lucas gotta eat.
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video game. Damn! Lucas gets my dime there, also!
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Seriously, he is one freaky lookin' pile of cellulite. How does that even happen? Can't he do neck crunches or something?
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Apart from the Maul 3-way duel in TPM, this was actually more exciting than any action sequence in ANY of the Prequel Trilogy.
But what the fuck was going on with the Sean Connery alien? for fuck's sake, I thought Lucas had nothing to do with this - that kind of immersion-breaking shit is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from the silly, frog-chinned twat himself. -
Damn you George Lucas!
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Damne Yee GL!!!
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He's from the U.S. and is an animator by training...specializing in the Disney/Don Bluth style of 2-D animation. I'm sure everyone at ILM and Skywalker Ranch know exactly who I am talking about. The guy's work is stunning!!! Lucas should have given this project to him and said, "Give it a go, do your thing, in your style." I think we would have gotten a film that we could all get behind (trust me, I saw this guy's demo reel)...but this movie that Lucas did, just looks bad. The style of computer animation looks plastic and off-putting.If he was going to go the computer route, he would have been better off giving it to Pixar, ironically a company that was originally started by Lucas under another name.
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Was Maul vs. Obi Wan and Qui Gonn. The final duel in Sith between Obi and Anakin was a little two much. They're TOO super. It was like watching a couple of supermen go at it, force shoving each other. Whereas until Phantom Menace, we'd never seen acrobatics in a duel (thanks to Ray Parks). The double-blade was just frosting
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or more probably "Fight on"
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while we're at it: When it was mentioned in the interview that all the income Lucasfilm makes instantly gets reinvested in more equipment and such, I wondered what they did buy? Just more computers and even more computers. But no creative peoples apparantly. I'm not saying Lucasfilm has gotten lazy, to make a statement like this would require actual insight into the company, but in my opinion WETA owns Lucasfilm with Lord of the Rings. And that's because WETA thought of creative ways (and much much practical effects) to create fantastic worlds, while Lucasfilm thought of excuses to use their new shiny computers. That's the impression I get. If Lucasfilm hired a clone of Richard Taylor, who just puts so much blood and sweat into LOTR, theor movies wouldn't look like videogames.
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It was just loud, for loud sake, and a over clogged mess of CGI???!!! Worse still, these people are supposed to be in the space age??? What a drastically ineffective method of fighting and waging war??? A single F-18 fighter plane could do better...or the Navy Seals famed Seal Team Six, the guys who carry the mini nukes, could have made shorter work of this!!!
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...I'd rather see this kind of effort put into a pre-Saga storyline. Didn't Lucas say something about doing an animated movie about the war between the Sith and the Jedi, before TPM?
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"It's not a TOO-MAH!"
seriously, the amount of dough lucas has, if he seriously wanted it operated on, he could do it. obviously, it gives him personal satisfaction - the whole corpulence=wealth thing, very popular in eastern countries.
now for all you prequel hating characters, you know you'll be first in line, your sweaty mitts clutching your jar jar dolls, to see this. the prequels were fun - not great movies - but fun (and revenge of the sith is vastly superior to rotj)so get over yourselves. here endeth the lesson. -
thanks for recommending. I'm totally psyched for it, goddamnit why couldn't they release it simultanously.
Thank god I got me some nice little cinema in Munich which only shows original language versions of movies. Can't stand the Jokers German synchronisation.
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The Prequels were soulless, cynical exercises in merchandising, cash-grabbing and a test-bed for the advancement of CG.
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if someone showed a drastically cut version of the Prequels in theaters. Where they basically just keep the conspiracy thing and leave out pretty much else. That's the part I love about te Prequels. And yes, the Darth Maul Finale is great, not least due to the music.
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...my balls and my asshole. TAINT WARS.
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That could also be known as 'Barse Wars' then...
'Barse' - not quite your bollocks - not quite your arse! -
It makes the Prequel actors look less wooden by comparison!
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people complaining about the so called crappy animation have to realize this is a tv series, they just decided to put this in theaters but its just the tv show's pilot so it wasnt made with the intention of being theatrical, so considering that its pretty good animation for a CGI tv show. on a related note, i saw Jumper last night and i cant believe that a movie that was allowed to use the word "fuck" at least once, didnt give it to sam jackson....for shame.
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whats next lucas?
Baby Star Wars?
Star Wars on Supermarionation?
Stop Motion Star Wars?
StarWars reshoot with James cameron new camera?
Super Mario Star Wars?
Mortal Kombat vs Star Wars Universe?
let SW alone lucas...before you actually start hurting his reputation
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my eyes!!!! ><
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please ban eggsalad? You annoying prick.
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Who cares about the Clone Wars? We have two mediocre prequels that covered part of it and now a mediocre CGI series. We all know which characters live, where's the suspense? Why don't they set it thousands of years past Return of the Jedi about a new evil in the galaxy, or thousands of years in the past in the Old Republic. I don't care what bullshit they make up that happens between the movies.
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This is not Star Wars. It's completely bollocks for two reasons: Firstly, if you're gonna go all gung ho action, why the fuck did they not do this in episodes one to three (fair enough three had a bit, but by this point the story was so fucked that it was wihthout any reasonable context), and second Anakin and Obi Wan's voices sound like those of retarded robots, there is no emotion at all. Which is a serious problem when ou consider that its a frigging animation, and the voice actors are supposed to fill in the blanks as far as technological limits of artwork is concerned. Appalling.
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When Star Wars wasn't worth caring about anymore... All i can say is thank god for Lord of the Rings. Del Toro best not fuck around with the Hobbit
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Anakin and Obi-Wan sounding like 'retarded robots' shows they are at least trying to be faithful to the Prequel Trilogy!
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you're right. Fingers crossed on the Hobbit.
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Why do these epic wars always utilize ground troops? What is the advantage. I mean I get the fact that the creators need to show off how bad ass the Jedi are, but it seems to me from a strategic standpoint, utilizing ground troops when you have all these ships and massive lazer beams is just a waste of time. Just freaking take down the planet with an air assault, and bring in the troops at the end to hold down the fort. What they aren't addressing here are seperatists fighting more like insurgents, like Iraq or someting, using hidden bombs and land mines to disturb the Old Republic's peace. I guess there are no suicidal religious fanatic militants in the SW universe.
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I just can't help it. Clones (lookimg like Robots) fight Legions of Robots. Sorry, but thats just boring as hell.
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Well said. Since finding this site, I find some opinions on the talkbacks interesting. While I'm an armchair SW fan who thought the prequels were OK, but no ESB, like you, I always thought that the time line was a little off. At least it was different than the way I had imagined the saga unfolding when I cobbled together what was known about the Clone Wars era at the end of Jedi as kid. Also, back in the 90s when I heard the Jedi would battle a droid army, I had assumed that the battle droids would be more like the Cylon "toasters" from the new BSG and not the comic relief they turned out to be. My feeling is that they should have been portrayed as dangerous killing machines that are armed to the teeth to take down Jedi, not goofy toy soldiers. As for people who say this looks like a PS or XBox game, could it be that game consoles have come so far to be almost indistinguishable from CG TV or film animation? We are a long way from the old Atari days... but, I'm not a gamer, so I am not up on that stuff. Haters, can start flaying me alive now. now.
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Wait- weren't they all CGI anyway? Fuck this movie. I'm with the guy who said he wants to see OG Star Wars characters this style. Bring back Han and Chewie for fuck's sake.
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Seriously guys. Fuck this movie. Fuck Lucas. The only way to do that... is to NOT SHOW UP TO THE THEATRE. Boycott.
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Whoopdee fuckin' doo. I could only care less if the story focused on Jar-Jar Binks' bowl movements.
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Seriously. We got it like ten years ago. You now officially hate Star Wars and George Lucas.
I hate Buffy and everything Whedon. I only comment on it when I see an excess of Buffy news, or a ridiculous amount of hyperbole from fans. "Buffy was the best show EVER MADE!!!" sort of bullshit, and "They should let Joss Whedon write and direct the next Spider-Man movie" and crap like that.
George invented Star Wars. It's his story. His characters. Some of us like it. If you're not on board anymore, that's cool. But please stop with the "raped my childhood" stuff. It's tired, and it's stupid.
My hate for Whedon is based on a constant dislike of his lowbrow, silly shit writing. I don't think he raped me, my childhood, or anything else. I just think he plain-out sucks.
If you think Lucas sucks, then cool. Say it. Just quit with the "milking Star Wars" and "raped childhood" crap. If he's raping your childhood, then your childhood was pretty weak an sheltered to begin with. -
Fucker is a little attention whoring bitch who really needs a cockpunch.
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This whining shitstorm has become tiresome and boring. Just don't watch the damn movie, pretty simple concept if you think about it.
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Lets be honest, the footage that was shown here, whilst pretty and full of bells a whistles, is no where near the quality of a normal cgi feature film. The fact that they are releasing this in the cinemas screams to me that they are trying to milk it for all that it is worth. It's like watching a cow slowly dying in an abandoned field. Bloody awful. Also, for some reason the graphic style reminds me of that shite little red riding hood cg film "Hoodwiked". Granted, it's no where near as awful, yet the cg "puppets" seem extremely soul-less. I have a bad feeling about this...
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Good to hear there are others around... I posted a similar argument on the SW 3D talkback a few days ago: (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37594). Personally, I'm lukewarm about the new trilogy, but the whole "raped my childhood" thing is tired. If people have criticisms, they should explain their point of view. "Lucas does it for the money" is lame too... of course he does it for the money - like every other businessman in the world. Lucasfilm is not the only company to double dip on DVD sets etc. Buy them once and forget about it. I have no problem with people who dislike something, but form and argument.
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This film will bomb very badly at the box office, and perhaps this is the only thing that can start waking-up George Lucas and his Yes Men to the falling quality of the Star Wars series, a fall that began with Return Of The Jedi and has only gotten worse as time goes on with each new film!!!!
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This film will bomb very badly at the box office, and perhaps this is the only thing that can start waking-up George Lucas and his Yes Men to the falling quality of the Star Wars series, a fall that began with Return Of The Jedi and has only gotten worse as time goes on with each new film!!!!
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Hey! Whedon is fucking amazing. Firefly, Serenity, Astonishing X-men, Toy Story, Dr. Horribles Sing along blog, Buffy, Angel. He's an extremely good writer as far as i'm concerned and is a master of group dialogue. His work has twice the heart and soul of the new stuff George Lucas has done....
And this George Lucas talk is all valid. He set the stall so high and then decided to let it all tumble down. It's the equivalent of marrying your mother and then raping her and stealing all her money (or maybe not). AND! He's got a gay beard and a fat double chin. Its not natural. -
i just can't can't can't give you another cent. Isn't this going to air on Cartoon Network the following week?
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Jul 28, 2008 6:14:10 PM CDT
The Dialogue And Character Interpretations Are Killing These Mov
by media messiah
I have a problem with the dialogue. It is meant to sound confident and self assured...but the Jedi come off looking arrogant. In a time of war, you shouldn't be popping off jokes or seem pompous. This has been a problem with all of the dialogue as presented in the prequels. The original Star Wars trilogy...pulled its humor organtically from the situations. We laughed at, and with, the characters when something went wrong that they expected to go right, despite the best of planning.Han Solo was confident in his skills, but he knew not to trust any situation, and he acted ike he could die at any moment, skills and confidence be damned. The same was true of Luke, or the original intepretation of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Old Ben trusted his training, but he was cautious and humble in any given stuation or fight...and he was also concerned about the cost of war...and respected death...knowing that despite his skills, he could die.However, the Jedi in the prequels act like they are playing a video game where there is no real price for war or death, in fact, no real consequences at all??? They are just smug and stiff...popping of brag filled jokes that are inappropriate for the violent situations they are in, and rob us of any real sense of drama and jeopardy for said characters, but they, these jokes, are also not funny. How can you emotionally bond with assholes as a member of the audience??? Answer: You can't!!! I have come to hate the Jedi, and like many other fans, I am starting to believe that Darth Vader was right and the Jedi are the bad guys, not the other way around!!!
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Jul 28, 2008 6:28:08 PM CDT
I really think Lucas wants to redo the OT completely...
by prof. pop-cult
I'm talking giving it the full CG treatment -- replacing all the live action actors, and just keeping their voices. And remastering all the movies into 3D. And finding ways to insert the Ewoks into Episode IV and V. He'll call it the Definitive Edition or something. Then he'll burn the original negatives. He'll do this all before he dies.
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of what the prequels should've been. That is, an advanced civilization tearing itself apart and the fall of a hero. Instead we got the fall of a whiny little cardboard version of a spoiled bitch. Too harsh?
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When I was a kid I thought the clone war was fought between Jedi's on both sides. And that all the troops wore armor like Boba Fett. Then this shit with the robots and clone troopers I mean why fight over and over. If you're fighting robots in the desert and rocks why not just nuke them? Stupid bull shit.
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Except for rewriting everything that they have done with regards to novels and the CN mini-episodes, this actually looks fun.
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it is what it is. it will never make you happy. Just ignore it,1970's Star Wars will never be topped and that's it. There is no point to compare it to anything else. Just charish your memories and you will be fine
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Right?
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Jul 28, 2008 7:55:26 PM CDT
Very nice!!! much better than that lsast weak ass carton version
by j2talk
now this is MUCH better than the weak ass Genndy Tartakovsky cartoon and bad animation.....
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... The guy who does the voice for Obi-Wan makes it fall short of greatness.
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That bored the hell out of me.
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I feel like George C. Scott here, watching something I love be brutally abused before me while I am powerless to interfere. Honestly, Star Wars should have died with episode 6. Let this stuff live on only in the imaginations of the fans.
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"Oh, just jump down there and kind of 'attack'. Very clever sir. You're a tactical genius."Liked the fake Wilhelm though. Man, the fun has soooooo gone out of finding Wilhelms.
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finally, more StarWars....plus we still got the live action series coming...
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...I swear I heard "That's the stuff" twice. Once at about 2 minutes and once near the end.
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Sad to say, but it's true. Definitely gonna check this out.
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That four minutes of non-stop action could be so utterly dull and lifeless.
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Jul 28, 2008 10:28:02 PM CDT
Is this like Ep. 2.5? Frankly I don't fucking care any more.
by violator90
What the hell is this crap??? So this shows that Lucas fucked up the entire Clone War mythos in the precrap of Episode 2. But then came the animated series that I never saw but heard very good things about. So I assumed that questions were settled in the cartoon series, that Georgie just plainly cluster fucked in Ep 2. Now this fucking shit?!?! Are you FUCKING shitting me?!?! ANOTHER in-between story to a jumbolia crapfest of the precraps that just destroyed the entire Star Wars universes. HELL NO! Not one single red cent is going toward your fucking titanic chin Lucas. I lost interest in Star Was after the Ep.1 Hell, I'm going to see The Dark Knight one more time! Lucas, suck on a Gungen's dick while getting fucking in the ass by a light saber--BITCH!
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If they boom up the camera over another approaching set of robots i'll freaking go insane.
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Seriously this embarassing watching George Lucas trying to make even more money, Clone Wars has been covered, move on.
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Minimum. Just like the live action series to come.
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Most of us believe that the Star Wars universe is a fantastic world. Why is it wrong for Lucas to play around in that world? For god's sake, it is what many of us do already and would continue to do if we had the ability that Lucas does.
If you have ever read an EU book, you are playing in the universe.
If you have ever read a SW comic book, you are playing in the universe.
If you have ever played SW minis or SW roleplaying game, you are playing in the universe.
If you have ever played a SW video game, you are playing in the universe.
But god help us if Lucas wants to play in THE UNIVERSE HE CREATED, or let others play in his universe so that we can see it.
No, not everything is the Godfather or War and Peace, but for every comic book, there is the Legacy series which is quite good. For every Ewok Adventure, there is Revenge of the Sith.
This looks like good fun and I will be happy to go spend another couple hours in my favorite universe, regardless of what the losers on this board have to say. -
I thought the prequesls were going to show us a climate of paranoia throughout the Old Republic where people were being replaced by clones. You'd never know who was your ally or foe. That would have been a great set-up, for the last film in the prequel trilogy, where it would have been revealed that the Emperor cloned a secret army of Sith...that take-out the Jedi (all clones of Anakin)...with the original Anakin in Darth dress, leading them in the attack. In a final move after defeating the real, Anakin, Obi-Wan...should have destroyed the army as well as a cloning machine ship...ending the Clone Wars by destroying the ancient alien technology that allowed the emperor to perform mass cloning, including aging the clones to fighting age, within a short time.The end result??? Although the war would have ceased, leaving the Old Republic in collapse, the Empire would come into existance as the Jedi, the Old Republic's only defense, were no more. Anakin, the only survivor of the Emperor's cloned Sith Army...assumes the role of the single Darth...Darth Vader. I mean, if you could clone a Jedi, why clone a Bounty Hunter like Jango Fett...and make an army of clones out of him, seems a flawed plan??? Ah, unless you reveal that Jango was a fallen Jedi and a Sith...who was, is...possibiliy the father of Anakin...now that would be the only thing that would make any sense whatsoever. Such a revelation would have changed the whole climate of the prequels, but that wasn't to be...as Lucas apparently only put together the prequels to sell toys.
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a shitty narrative is a shitty narrative, regardless of the universe from which it takes place. i would agree that the SW universe is a fantastic backdrop from which great stories could emerge...it's just too bad they don't.
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an animated SW every summer would be a good thing
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What I saw here is what I wanted to see in the prequels!! I'm not gonna lie...I loved Ep. III and think it's amazing...liked Ep.II in the last hour...but this kind of action is what I hoped for in the prequels.
I can tell that GL is thinking back and re-telling somethings that came to mind later. Almost like as if he were in a Bar scrum and remembered what he should have said in front of all...instead. I'll watch it....it's Star Wars!! -
Really, really awful. Only an overweight Baby Boomer with too much money and free time on his hands could do worse... oh, wait...
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This is going to flop badly and everyone will be 'surprised' it happened I can see the headlines now. ten years ago anything with star wars attached was a cash cow now look at what its become. really mediocre derivative CGI kids cartoon. The olds school fans have long since abandoned any hope of star wars being good or cool again and the new fans? where are they?
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watch battlestar galactica. its what new star wars could have been. I used to think the 'clone wars' sounded so epic and cool when mentioned in a new hope now when I watch that film and hear the line 'you fought in the clone wars?' I wince.
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har fucking har
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maybe it's because i wasnt to excited about this movie before, but i thought that clip was awesome. I mean not even in a 'well its good for a kid's movie.' way.. i thought it was generally entertaining. but hey, if you hated it, thats your thing, im one of the lucky ones who'll go this and still enjoy some new school star wars adendums.. (p.s. thats a good way to not hate the prequels as much, just look that them as a new sci-fi trilogy, loosly based in the star wars universe, and they're not as bad.)
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Jul 29, 2008 2:29:10 AM CDT
Ilander66, You're Right About Galactica vs The Prequels!!!
by media messiah
That is exactly what I have been thinking ever since the new Galactica first aired...and certainly, while I was writing my post. Lucas appears to be very lucky in many ways. I don't think the guy lost it, I simply think he just got lucky. Star Wars is a rip-off of Space Cruiser Yamato (Star Blazers) and for those who don't know...Star Blazers was produced as a movie and aired on Japanese television years before Star Wars was even made.The recipe for Star Wars: Simply rip-off some production design cues from Yamato (Star Blazers--the space fighters...space craft carriers, the Comet Empre aka the Deathstar...and a particle weapon that can destroy planets), 2001: A Space Odyssey (the space shots and atmosphere suits), Planet Of The Apes...(costumes, the arid look...reminds one of Tantooine) Space: 1999 (look at the sets and the outer design of Moon Base Alpha...very intricate like the exteriors of the Deathstar and the Millenium Falcon). And then there are the robots of Silent Running...plus Dune and the tv series Kung-Fu (the Master teaching the student) are in there somewhere.Lucas was a student of his time, and a man of his time...and appears to have stolen many influences to build Stars Wars. The problem now...he has stripped all of those past influences that I have named, and others, of their value...now, he appears to be lost...and unable to find new inspiration while still managing to appear ahead of the curve. That is what always happens to parots and mimics of other people's work, they are good at copying it...but fail to be able to innovate and evolve that material, eventually leading to the degenerating Wachowski Brothers effect (speaking of rip-off artists). If Dark City didn't exist, there would be no The Matrix...but due to the fact that Dark City bombed at the Box office, there were no follow-up movies for the Wachowskis to further pilfer from, hence the reason the Matrix sequels are so bad...the Wachowskis were forced to write original stories for the sequels and were exposed as being talentless.As for Lucas, I think by now...he has convinced himself that Star Wars is indeed singularly of his own invention and creation, save for Damn Busters and Hidden Fortress....thus, he is now attempting to create his own mythos...and straying away from the influences that originally helped to define and shape Star Wars...as a result, Lucas' own original ideas pale in comparision to those he has stolen from others...the reason why the new Star Wars films are so terrible. Lucas is simply the Wizard of Oz, a con man hiding behind a curtain and pretending to be something more than he really is.
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You are so wise about everything "derivative". Perhaps you can educate us on how your comments are NOT indicative of most of the comments on the TB. Oh....yes,.....I think there may have been a comment or two about "derivative" influences on this site a time or two. Thanks for reminding us! You're such a public servant!
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Just picking a fight. I'm lonely. Fame away so I can feel "important".
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FLAME!!!!
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A person can start grabbing bits and pieces from ANYWHERE and start making someone else's work look like a ripoff. You named, what- SEVEN movies that Star Wars stole from? When does it stop being thievery and start being INSPIRATION?
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George should have done a live-action SW series, set POST-ROTJ by 20-30 years that dealt with Luke rebuilding the Jedi Order. Tell me that wouldn't be cool. Hamill would have done it.
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Is this some kind of experiment to see just how stiff, ugly, and boring they can make these characters?
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OMG that looked terrible! How come whenever Lucas is involved in something nowadays it turns out crap?! Did he write the dialogue for this aswell? Its as bad as his prequals...jeez, the clone wars are so boring. I mean, they don't seem to be able to even animate faces! Watch the new Batman anime dvd if you wanna watch something special...
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...first X-Files and now this? Please people don't pay for what is obviously a very long premiere episode that we will see on TV for free this fall.
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its true that virtually any form of media 'borrows' from what has gone before if any of us were to create something we would be influenced by (conciously or not)by things we have seen and maybe those similarites would show through in our work. But whereas in the past Lucas was influenced by joseph campbell and kurosawa he now seems influenced by fifth rate cartoons and MTV simplification. (anyone remember watching the documentary on the episode one dvd showing lucas during the writing process watching old buster keaton slapstick and chuckling to himself....hello jar jar). Lucas is a blunt instrument in need of a kick in the pants.
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I liked that the clones had more individual reactions to things. I mean, you see them getting killed in different ways instead of that mass anonymous way they did in AOTC. Some of the dialogue was borderline "cowabunga dude!" but that's okay. My eyes did start to glaze over towards the end of that clip because of the familiarity of the battle, though. (And the bong hit.)
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i WANT to see the clone wars played out....i want to see the effect of General Order 66...surely the clones couldnt have wipped out all the Jedi quickly....hopefully this and the live action show - which is supposed to cover the 20yrs between ep 3 and 4- will help flesh out what happened to the Jedi order- the Galaxy is a big place with PLENTY of stories to tell.....and perhaps best of all the live action series is NOT focused on the Skywalkers...
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Something I did like was that, since we know Palpatine is behind everything, the death and destruction seems even more pointless.
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Believe it or not, I saw the whole movie a few weeks back. I had to sign a form that stated that I didn't write any review on it. So I didn't. Which is a pity really, because I really liked what I saw. It takes about 10-15 minutes to getting used to the CGI characters. There's a lot of action in it and the idea that Anakin gets a Padawan is very well thought. Ahsoka and the baddie Asajj are great new characters. The best action scene involves climbing a mountain with Anakin, Ahsoka, some clone troopers and a giant AT-TE tank. Despite its dark tone it's really a family movie. With its 100 minute runtime it felt a little bit too long for me, though. But I'm looking forward to seeing the tv-series!
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Geez, how far can this franchise be milked? Clone Wars? Fuck you, we already know how it ends, who gives a fuck about this side story.
George Lucas got lucky with the original movies and then fucking raped us with the prequels, now we have to put up with this shit. I hope that 10-20 years from now, we get a Star wars remake from a GOOD director, with a total re-imagination of Star Wars without all the bullshit.
UGH, FUCK YOU GEORGE LUCAS!!!!! -
and maybe it will just go away
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I guess I must be some kind of arsehole or something for still loving Star Wars. The prequels weren't perfect but personally I found them pretty damn entertaining. Isn't that enough? The bitterness and hostility toward SW on this site is baffling and painfully ironic. No one is making you guys go see Clone Wars. Simply ignore it. All these snide comments about Lucas' "fat neck" are just absurd. From the looks of it, Clone Wars is obviously designed for a younger audience...so quit your repetitive pissing and moaning and move on.
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Jul 29, 2008 10:03:50 AM CDT
Star Wars is so yester...no wait....I have a mind of my own...
by smackfu
It actually looked pretty good.
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You're just part of the vastly larger society that still loves the saga and looks forward to each new adventure. Be glad you're not a member of this comparatively tiny, click-ish, group-think cabal of cynicism (most of whom still watch and buy everything George Lucas creates).
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I introduced Star Wars to my kids this year (my boy is almost 4 and my girl is 5 1/2). They got interested in it because my mother-in-law had a bunch of ESB and RotJ action figures that she let them have. They really got into the figures so I showed them the original Trilogy. I then pulled out all my Ep1 action figures I had stored away and let them have at them and showed them Ep1. They actually perfer Ep1 to the original trilogy. I found that interesting. I never thought episode 1 was as terrible as people made it out to be, but, it definitely ranks close to last as a Star Wars movie. I'll definitely be taking my kids to see Clone Wars and am looking forward to seeing their reaction to it. Should be interesting since I haven't shown them Eps2 or 3 yet.
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And I didn't hate the prequels (except for TPM which is basically unwatchable). Hell, I rank ROTS as 3rd best behind ESB (1st) and ANH (2nd). None of this bares any influence, however, on the fact that Lucas' fat-neck is pretty grotesque. I mean, can't he get that fixed? Doesn't he make like 30 billion dollars a second? I mean really now.
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But I still love Star Wars. I think it has something to do with nostalgia. It reminds me of a simpler time. Of course, the OT is where its at, but the PT has its moments. And ROTS was just flat out awesome. Really its the only prequel worth watching more than once, the only one which does honor to the OT.
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That implies Greedo fired at all.
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My point is this. Lucas has only made 2 good Star Wars movies...just 2 out of 6...Star Wars: A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back??? When you lack your own original and true inspirations to project the forward progress of a story beyond ripping-off others, this kind of thing happens.Lucas really isn't a script writer in the first place...Coppola pushed him into it...and although Star Wars is the cleanest, most efficient script, that I have ever read, I think it is now clear that Lucas' problems authoring scripts up to the level of the first two Star Wars films, and being able to direct them successfully are stemming from him truly attempting to create original Star Wars stories that weren't somehow inspired from elsewhere...and that is the weakness of Lucas' talent. The guy can craft a handsome looking script, he is a great technician in that and I can't take it from him, nor would I try (I regularly use the form in which he wrote the first Star Wars script as a structural template), but again, the substance therein is lacking when he tries to do his own original stories, those that aren't pilfered from other sources...just don't work coming from Lucas' pen.
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Seriously needs to get out of their basement once in a while. Among the 7-12 set Star Wars is as enormous as it's ever been. Kids don't play with "Lord of the Rings" toys or imagine themselves in the exciting world of "Hellboy"--they friggin' play Lego Star Wars and fight with toy lightsabers.
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see--this clip.And Merrick: I "since" something. A presence I've not felt since...
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...that this movie is the precursor for a television show? We're not talking about this thing having a-list production quality. If they did that and set everyone's expectation for that level of graphics and whatnot, they'd have a horrible time maintaining that for the TV show.
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There is a Knights of the Old Republic MMO coming out, not to mention Force Unleashed which is basically an awesome SW game functioning as the showcase for a new wave of physics and real-time 3D tech.
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Wasn't this supposed to be on CN or TNT or some Turner network soon after release? Or am I thinking of one of the series in development?
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...and yet I have no idea who the fuck "Commander Cody" is.
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Ugh. Christopher Lee should sue them for the way his character looks.
The absolute worst thing about the old Clone Wars cartoons (Gendy's ugly art style) is the sole thing they carry over. Pathetic. -
Watch the special features on the Blue Harvest DVD. George says he's favorite TV shows are "Jackass" and "Family Guy". No joke.
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"STORMTROOPER"
by So Long Princess
Theres a tear behind my armor
As I step over the carapace
of fallen kin
Service over honor
But the pain still burns within
A heart behind this chestplate
It beats, one hertz
its not a circuitboard
And I just cant take it (what?)
The pain, anymore
How do I show
I'm a human being?
Flesh and blood
Not a killing machine! (x2)
I am a STORMTROOPER!
Im not a ROBOT! (x4)
A soul I swear
Lays beneath this plastic skin
And this mask I wear
It traps my aspirations
But I'm tired of taking orders
Left, right, left, right, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT
The only thing I want of my emperor
Is DEATH!
*repeat pre-chorus
*repeat chorus
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Jul 29, 2008 9:41:39 PM CDT
The thing that always bothers me about the new Lucas SW material
by malificus
..is how empty all the city street things seem.Right from Episode One with the shots of Amidala's empty castle straight through to these Clone Wars clips with armies of those annoying drones marching through still more empty streets, they spend so much time designing these awesome cityscapes but they are just sterile and empty. Metaphor anyone? And I agree with what other's have stated regarding the hardware, there's a fine line between looking cool and being functional, the AT AT's pushed it about as far as you could reasonably go, but now even the troop transports seem ill-designed and disfunctional. I need to see some crap in the streets, garbage bins, cola drinks ads on streetlamps, civilization equals junk, the bigger the city, the more junk. Make it real, make it crappy, too nice and new looks fake, reference Mos Eisley George.
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trylogy still get excited about star wars after those god awful new ones?
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"Just because you can talk does not equal intelligence." or something like that. The 'prequals' have their moments, as I've stated before there is nothing wrong with the prequals that hasn't been wrong from the start, it's just that you're all older and wiser and expect better because in the intervening years since Ep6 and Ep1 so many others raised the bar so high. Lucas has always been weak in certain areas, same as it ever was, but light sabers are still cool and I still spring wood when someone starts slashing, I always will.
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Yeah kids today love stuff like Lego Star Wars videogames. I mean what the hell is that? I played it with my cousins and it's a graphic of a toy in a game! And they like the Prequels without the use of psychoanalysis re: their childhood trauma. And they have never even seen one episode of The Golden Girls, mainly because Blanche talks way too much about grandma head and toilet sex.
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I read the novelization last night, and it worked pretty well in print. I'm a sucker for more clone wars since we saw all of maybe 30 minutes of it in the PT.
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Bah, the entire Prequal Trilogy + Clone Wars could have been a 30 sec montage in the beginning of A New Hope to give the backstory. Lucas is not only kicking a dead horse he's sucking the goddamn marrow out of the bones
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If you hate Star Wars so much, then why *ARE YOU ALL GOING* to see this movie?
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I'll sit and watch any StarWars that comes out.....and I'll no doubt enjoy it....
as I have enjoyed ALL of the previous films...sure there were parts i could live without- the kids cardboard acting- but overall the visuals and the storyline made the 2hrs i sat in the theater worth it....I hope that StarWars will continue for a Long,Long time....
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