July 27, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST
I just always wanted to be first.
July 27, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST
I don't if just loved seeing Mulder and Scully on the big screen or if i genuinely liked the movie. It was enjoyable enough, even if the plot was a little loopy. I guess, has you mentioned, we just expected more from a movie which is basically a reintroduction and a supposed launchpad for a series of films. Not a goos start. Hopefully they'll deliver the goods next time. IF they are given the chance. The Good Xfiles Film Is Out There.
July 27, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST
First sentence makes more sense if typed like this " I don't KNOW if I just loved..." lol. Man, hope my old english teachers don't read this. And what the hell is with the goos? Oh I give up.
July 27, 2008, 2 a.m. CST
Now that that's out of the way... Completely agree with the Wide One on this. It was a nice TV episode shown on the big screen. I loved the first X-Files movie and was at least expecting it to be as good as that one. I guess a 6 year break from these characters has made those involved forget just what made them so compelling in the first place. A 30 million budget? I spent that much on popcorn alone this summer! By contrast, The Dark Knight has a budget of $185 million. Most of that money probably went to pay Gillian and David's sallaries alone. No wonder it feels like a decent TV episode. No money left over for a great script, director, locations or decent effects. A pedofile priest who cries blood and a has-been rapper for an FBI agent were the best Chris Carter could do? You blew it dude. Add X-Files: I Want A Reprieve to my list of "could-have-been-great" movies this summer that missed that mark (I'm taking about you Indiana Jones and The "Incredible" Hulk!) Damn shame...
July 27, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST
by hank henshaw
was 100 times better than this. It was shallow when compared to the mythology episodes before it (but better than most that came after it). The only thing that I Want to Believe has going for it, are Mulder and Scully, but that's not enough. Oh, and Scully was a skeptic again. Way to go, Carter and Spotnitz!
July 27, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST
by Horace Cox
Dude came up with a great idea but had no idea where to go with the X-Files once he started. He just made shit up as he went along without a clear idea of where he wanted to take it. What he did come up with was lame. Promises of something grandiose and wondrous fizzled and fell flat. He's sort of like a poor man's George Lucas. But hey, fuck it. It's his baby so he can smother it if he wants to.<p> And now, by public demand, I shall promptly fuck off.
July 27, 2008, 2:04 a.m. CST
I am pretending it doesn't exist.... thats all i have to say
July 27, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST
by hank henshaw
agreed to make the movie for "little" money (500.000 US$ or so), for the fans.
July 27, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST
i wanted to go into this movie and come out amazed and feeling satisfied. instead i came out and said i wasted 5 bucks to see that? it was nothing but two average episodes strung together..... maybe if we get a third movie within the next few years they can hit it out of the park and make us forget this one..
July 27, 2008, 2:13 a.m. CST
I love The X-Files, too, but sat writhing in my seat Friday morning (first showing) from credits to credits. Carter spent way too much time visiting themes well-covered in the series. Some story elements and dialog were real eye-rollers. We would have benefited had Carter not penned and directed, methinks. Thank God Duchovny and Anderson were there, though this mediocre episode wasted their - and our - time.
July 27, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST
bring in a great director. Shake the shit up. Look at Wrath of Khan -- get some new blood behind the wheels bring out the best in the show while making it cinematic. Maybe its also a case of the fans knowing the show better than the creator -- like Star Wars
July 27, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST
...oh..that was the first shitty film, not this one.
July 27, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST
X-Files was a keystone in my and my wife's life together. Massive fans, collecting magazines, theory books, posters, etc. Right up until the Dogget Days. Even then, stuck thru it until the end. I dug Fight the Future, alot actually. Or was it just the last 20 minutes? not sure. Myabe I should give it another watch. Anytime I catch an episode on tnt or scifi, pretty much have to stop what I'm doing and watch. Was seriously excited. A new Files Flick!? Really! Holy Hell!! But after this from a fan and other reviews... might just have to download it. God Damnit! How hard is it to make a good movie? Especially one with such a massive world of crazy shit to draw from? fuck!
July 27, 2008, 2:21 a.m. CST
made me appreciate fight the future so much more. At least that seemed to have the scope and feel of a movie, not just an overly extended episode. Plus it had X-filesy stuff.. like, aliens, or creepy black goo, government conspiracy. where was that? not even a monster? a virus? no conspiracy? nothing? without the presence of mulder and scully this is just a ordinary thriller. lame.
July 27, 2008, 2:29 a.m. CST
by xsi kal
..the franchise is dead in the water. 4M from ~3100 theaters? Yikes.
July 27, 2008, 2:31 a.m. CST
And wait for a Movie that's actually worth paying to see at the Cinema.
July 27, 2008, 2:35 a.m. CST
I'm hearing it made in the 20mil range this weekend. It underperformed, but it's far from a bomb.
July 27, 2008, 2:42 a.m. CST
Them hitting the reset switch, especially with Scully's skepticism, really turned me off to this film.
July 27, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST
That along with the farm supply shop scene were painfully stupid.
July 27, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST
by The InSneider
that was one of your better reviews. thank you for confirming my suspicions... i'll wait for the DVD
July 27, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST
...when Mulder was walking back to the road after his carwreck? That was a nice touch.
July 27, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST
if not then there was no point in making this movie
July 27, 2008, 2:58 a.m. CST
Nicki Aycox, better known as "Meg" from season one of The X-files' spiritual successor SUPERNATURAL, played victim #2. It's a shame they didn't give her more to do though.
July 27, 2008, 3 a.m. CST
There's an extremely zoomed out shot of (presumeably) her in a black bikini.
July 27, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST
i know it wont happen, but in my dream..<br><br>they ended the x-files with mulder finding out the big alien invasion is coming in dec, 2012 (the end of the mayan calender) --which leads him to be distraught, etc.. another story. <br><br>anyway, it would be great if this was just a low budget 'stand alone' episode, before they release a real, full blown, x-file, alien invasion movie in 2012.<br><br>wishful thinking.
July 27, 2008, 3:09 a.m. CST
The film comes across like the following: I have not spoken to Mulder and Scully for a few years. It's not that I don't like them or anything... we just kind of lost contact. I then sign up for Facebook. Upon doing so, the site tells me that I "may know these people". One of the options is Mulder and Scully. Excited by the rememberance of our past, yet unforgotten, 'friendship', I write to them: "Hey Guys! Have not seen or spoken to you in a while! How have things been?" Their reply to me was this movie. "Kind of good. Scully and I are living together in a secluded house... Things are okay but sometimes we feel a little stressed because I'm kind of the same but she's moved on a little bit (but not really). She's talked me into going back into checking out this case about a psychic priest that may know something or other (I don't know if he does or not, I can't make up my mind) about a kidnapped FBI agent. She talked me into doing it but then gets mad about the fact that I'm chasing after whoever did it afterward. Go figure. Chicks are strange. Better to stick with porno. Anyway, Scully is working on a kid with some unnamed disease and has to put up with a big-earred priest (not the psychic one) who doesn't want to use experimental practice in order to save him. Scully's cool to live with, and I love her (obviously!) but this was a little strange. My partner (no we're not married), who's a full-fledged doctor, google's "Stem Cell Research". I thought to myself, 'Wouldn't she know a lot about that already?'. The short and sweet of it is this: We're kind of broken up but not really... if that makes any sense. Oh! And I completely forgot to tell you-- our son died."
July 27, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST
Yeah, I know that it wasn't supposed to be all mytharc-y, but I kept expecting them to show the back of Skinner's neck to reveal a bumpy spine that would prove he's actually a "super soldier replacement"! Do you really think the secret powers in the government would let him slide after assisting in Mulder's escape? Fat chance, says I.
July 27, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST
If you liked X-files, especially the stand alone episodes, you'll probably love this show. Season One was spotty at best, and really didn't get good until Jeffrey Dean Morgan showed up. Season Two was a bit iffy during it's first half, but midway the show found it's grounding and from then on has been fantastic. ESPECIALLY SEASON THREE. I don't know if they can keep the quality up given where they left things in last season's finale, but dammit, IF THERE WAS EVER A COOL GEEK RELATED SHOW THAT WASN'T GETTING A SPOTLIGHT ON AICN, IT'S SUPERNATURAL. Too bad it's stuck on a shitty network with a increasingly shitty lead in.
July 27, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST
I don't think they meant that he died, I think they were just referring to how she gave up and got rid of him.
July 27, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST
He's not a great director by any means. Very spotty filmography.
July 27, 2008, 4:04 a.m. CST
That's a show that's growing in strength all the time. Season 3 was terrific.
July 27, 2008, 4:06 a.m. CST
Why do you not even mention that as one of the failings? Are you one of those people who thinks the writers are just ... interchangeable?
July 27, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST
...seeing as X FILES ripped off chunks of SILENCE OF THE LAMBS in the first place - the visual tone, the damn typeset intertitles, Scully is a character clearly modelled on Clarice Starling, and so on. He'd be repeating himself. I'd give the job to someone like John Dahl - I'd be interested to see what he could do with it. Mind you, depending on the numbers, this might be the end of the franchise.
July 27, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST
This movie was awful, and I was a fan of the TV show. I walked out with 30 minutes left.
July 27, 2008, 4:40 a.m. CST
A major character from the series is parachuted into the final ten mins of the movie without an explanation as to where he came from or where he was.
July 27, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST
JUST THINK WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE WITH THE FILM'S PREMISE IF KRYCHEK WAS STILL ALIVE.
July 27, 2008, 5:02 a.m. CST
...Carter's inclusion of Unkle's "Broken" during the credits...I've listened to that track a crapload of times since the midnight showing thursday night. I wouldn't say I cared for the way it was used, but the song is pretty cool.
July 27, 2008, 5:03 a.m. CST
It's extremely difficult to make a good film...and to complain because it isn't great is a bit sad. I love the idea of a small budget. I love the idea of it going head to head with The Dark Knight. Give it a few years, the naysayers will eat their hat.
July 27, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST
July 27, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST
spirit clip from the con...http://tinyurl.com/69dg8m
July 27, 2008, 5:13 a.m. CST
They watered it down for non X-Files audiences and the runoff also removed what made the tv show so great. The conflict between Mulder/Scully over the supernatural, the conflict between both of them and the FBI, the love/hate relationship with Skinner, the upcoming Alien invasion and coverup, the dreaded Cigarette Smoking Man or someone who could replace him as a bad man behind the government. They easily could of found a way to put them back in the FBI. Not that it matters. The real reason the movie stinks is because Chris Carter is a terrible showrunner. The best X-Files episodes were all written and directed by other people. This is the end. And Shermdawg , no way it made 12 million let alone 20 this weekend.
July 27, 2008, 5:14 a.m. CST
clip got screwed up...so im fixing it
July 27, 2008, 5:30 a.m. CST
Even if you can get over the reset switch issue with Scully's beliefs and Mulder's issues with the FBI, ya got a horribly undeveloped script that spends too much time caught up in it's melodrama to flesh out the things that are needed to tell a good story. Amanda Peet, The returning castmember, and the "villians" all needed more screentime. Especially Peet, since what ends up happening to her, really doesn't have any impact when it should have. (God, I wish that had been Reyes.) <br><br> And then there's the fact that M&S offered nothing to the case they were asked to help out with other than the lame as hell connection between Scully and the devious plot that was goin' down in the backwoods of West Virginia. <br><br> Despite all of the things holding up the production of this film, Carter had more than enough time to get a decent script together, instead of picking a few hot topics (which admittedly COULD have made for an interesting movie) and just slapping it together without much care and overlooking all that the characters and the viewers for that matter have been through over the last fifteen years.
July 27, 2008, 5:35 a.m. CST
July 27, 2008, 5:39 a.m. CST
...have you seen that big as hell rooftop theater display? It's pretty badass.
July 27, 2008, 5:49 a.m. CST
i aint there...took the clip off of a longer vid of the con panel, which was boring as shit...it was boring, because its apparent that not one of the cast members has a clue what the spirit is really about...miller is deluded if he thinks that eisner would aprove of this...denny colt running around trying to get laid? watch the clip
July 27, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST
...that's if they have one set up.<br><br> It's a big ass rooftop with The Spirit standing on it and a cityscape in the background.
July 27, 2008, 5:55 a.m. CST
July 27, 2008, 5:57 a.m. CST
How many supernatural and perinatural themes and ideas has the series addressed already that Carter didnt want to rehash for the sake of a movie? Havent seen it yet but maybe he's more interested in ethical issues than monsters now in the X-files universe... Im gonna go in Saturday with low expectations and hopefully appreciate it on another level than what new bug or little known foreign spiritual\cultural boogeyman are we to see this time around...
July 27, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST
Sorry, always has in my opiion. Never found a single interesting episode.
July 27, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST
Files was the studio's highest profile flick this summer.
July 27, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST
not sure why but major parts of this movie felt borrowed, lifted, as if 3 movies had been patched together to make one script.
July 27, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST
...I can't fucking wait for Burn After Reading.
July 27, 2008, 6:37 a.m. CST
but always enjoyed me some X-files, and always appreciated a good stand-alone episode. With that said, just from the commercials I've seen, I thought it looked like the were trying to reboot. How could Scully go back to being a nonbeliever after all she's seen? I'll catch this on DVD when it comes out... Maybe with low expectations, I'll be able to enjoy it more. <p> I'm watching "Home" right now, now that's some good X-Files.
July 27, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST
I watched half of the first season of Supernatural, and thought it had potential, but that it was being squandered... Can I start with season 2, and still know what's going on? Or season 3? Or if I couldn't dig it the first time, should I just pass on it altogether? There's so little on TV right now, I need something good to hold me over.....
July 27, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST
John Winchester's death is the catalyst for much of the mythology of season two. And sets up the importance of the Colt.
July 27, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST
July 27, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
...was a remake of The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant?
July 27, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
I am huge Files fan ....and the movie just didn't do it ... I wanted something at the end with Mulder making a decision that he is going back to the FBI... I wanted something, just a hint of the aliens conspiracy... ANYTHING! But nope.
July 27, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST
You are wrong about the "inflated budgets to all key personnel" and should correct your review. Anderson and Duchovny both made the film for $250,000 plus a percentage of the gross. So if you feel the $30M budget was poorly used, don't blame them.
July 27, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST
Dude, your recent reviews have been terrific. I'm happy that you've been trimming the fat and getting to the dang point.
July 27, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST
This was probably the funniest title (or most witty) you've had in a long time; not to discredit the other titles to your reviews. <br> <br> This one just really struck me as funny! Well done.
July 27, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
"and frankly - I had very little interest in the sub-plot of the dying kid that Scully was treating" But that was the point, and I'm exasperated that so few people get it. Scully is doing the same that the villians are doing. Sure she's doing it legally and with the best intentions, but her entire story parallels their story. How far do you go just because you can? How far do you go to save a life?
July 27, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST
I'm hearing that there was a short scene. yes/no?
July 27, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST
Spoilers ahead. There's a shot at the end of the credits of Mulder and Scully in some boat in bathing suits waving at the camera.
July 27, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST
Now that I wanna believe
July 27, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST
I'm not spending a dime on that one when I can see it on TV for free.
July 27, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST
by Herb West
July 27, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST
DEvils Backbone with Mulder and Scully in it. Ooh yes. OR EVEN!!!!-BRAINWAVE-.... Mulder and Scully investigating the case of a missing girl that turns out to be the one from Pans Labyrinth!
July 27, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST
How hard can it be to make a great movie when you have the material and back-story that X-Files does? Now, the franchise (maybe the entire PROPERTY) is dead. There will be no more X-Files movies, not after this flop. Carter has no one to blame but himself. Even given a shoestring budget, this was sub-standard. I'm shaking my head here.
July 27, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST
Better than this second X-files film, I'll wager.
July 27, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST
Have I entered the Bizzaro Earth? WTF?!??
July 27, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST
I loved the show and watched to the end, but I didn't much care for the first movie or the death rattle the show ended with, and everything about this one feels wrong. This should have been an automatic for me. Carter could have written 10 different great "episodes" in the time it took him to do this. On top of the bad feeling, I find it insulting the way Anderson and Duchovny are battering "the fans" by suggesting it is up to them if there is another one. If you two had held out for a better story, the fans and even many non-fans would show up.
July 27, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST
You've all read Mr. Harry's grammatical error(s)/gross misspelling(s)-laden reviews before. Look at it as a challenge. A cryptograph, if you will. An English language Sudoku puzzle. At AICN YOU are a codebreaker and it's YOUR responsibility to figure out what the writer [communicator] is attempting to say. Yes, it's backwards. Yes, it shouldn't be that way. Yes, the vast majority of professionals take pride in their ability to express themselves and convey their thoughts in a coherent, logical and readable manner. That's not the point, my bastard children.<p>ZING!<p>PROOFREAD, MUTHAFUCKAS!
July 27, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST
B/C The Happening sucked. I don't want another movie-going experience like that one.
July 27, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST
That there is Speed Racer-level box office. <p> Hellboy 2 has also underperformed. Which is a shame because it deserves better.
July 27, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST
It was good but not great. It felt like an episode from the first coupel of seasons, especially with all the Vancouver locations and actors. Which I liked. Its a small film that should never have been released in the summer and its getting eaten alive. But if this is the end of the whole thing, I'm glad that it least went out by going back to its roots. Its roots are the best.
July 27, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST
by jason baum
i think that harry's nailed it. let carter produce and maybe help with the story, but bring in a new screenwriter & director. i wonder what m night would do with an oportunity like this. it doesn't have to be him, but this series deserves a better class of film, who's gonna give it to us?
July 27, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST
by Kung Fu Hustler
First, why would Scully ask Skinner what happened to Reyes and Doggett? Presumably, she already knows. And people that don't give a shit about Scully's dying patient are probably the kind of people who think Harvey Dent's transformation in TDK was dramatically compelling...
July 27, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST
in TEN FUCKIN DAYS. It truly is the year of the Bat.
July 27, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST
Don't you be blasphemin'.
July 27, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST
forgot that religion was off the table as well as dirty jokes....
July 27, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST
July 27, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST
It's not like it's one of the most groundbreaking shows of all time, or anything. You don't have to like it, but come on. As for all the complaints about Mulder and Scully acting uncharacteristic in this film, I totally disagree. After a decade of having proof slip out of their fingers, of higher powers covering up their discoveries, of having their asses handed to them over and over repeatedly, it makes perfect sense that they would end up where they are after going on the run. Mulder is like a dog on a self-imposed leash, his nose still sniffing out paranormal occurrences but forced to do so from hiding, from fear of being arrested. When he's called back into action, he's unleashed and a bit overly-manic in his pursuits. Scully, meanwhile, after being badied about by enormous govermental/alien forces for all those years has held onto something she can control, something she has power over - her medical career. The whole subplot with the boy represented that - it was her one way of feeling like she had ay sort of grip on her life. The whole movie was basically about them reviving their mission statement, "not giving up". Small in scale, but a big personal deal for characters who have been fucked over by "the darkness" for so many years now.
July 27, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST
10 million dollars and beaten by mamma mia.(and I say that as a huge abba and x files fan) Bloody hell. This could of been great if vince gilligan had been bought in but carter and spotnitz just fucked it up. The only way you could kill a franchise quicker is if you bought in e-coli burgers at mickey d's. Anyone who saw the last episode knew that carter was a spent force and thats it no more mulder and scully. What a fuck up.
July 27, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST
10 million dollars and beaten by mamma mia.(and I say that as a huge abba and x files fan) Bloody hell. This could of been great if vince gilligan had been bought in but carter and spotnitz just fucked it up. The only way you could kill a franchise quicker is if you bought in e-coli burgers at mickey d's. Anyone who saw the last episode knew that carter was a spent force and thats it no more mulder and scully. What a fuck up.
July 27, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST
blame the studio for moving hellboy 2 a week before TDK. it was a dumb move. someone needs to be fired for it. <p> sorta like someone at FOX needs to be canned for letting xfiles 2 hit the screen in its current state. a better edit might have saved the film. but this close to the TDK and poor reviews. its over for the xfiles at thge box office.
July 27, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST
He should get someone to direct. The best X-Files episodes were the ones he didn't direct. I didn't see the movie yet but, even if it is a so-so episode in a larger scale, seeing Mulder and Scully again is great.
July 27, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST
That's what The Assassination of Jesse James cost. And that film is a modern classic, in my opinion. An X-Files movie doesn't need a big budget. In fact, I very much like the idea of an X-Files movie with a small budget. A good director, writer, cast and crew should be enough. Unfortunately, it seems this film didn't have all of that.
July 27, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST
had a few beautifully shot sequences near the end, but otherwise dreadful. the characters were like something out of Power Rangers, the comedy was unfunny, the comic artstyle continues to be missing, and the whole damn thing just felt like a children's movie (odd considering its called HELLBOY. you'd expect some semblance of edginess.) If Del Toro didnt make this people would be slamming it like they slam the Mummy movies.
July 27, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST
I loved the x files but this movie just pissed on what came before. I mean the final shot we have of these characters in them in a rowboat waving at the camera? And what is up with Scully being a skeptic again? This was dealt with the in series. She became the believer to Doggett's skeptic. For me this movies screams of a cash grab. These characters are iconic. The show was groundbreaking. I mean how many shows today are influenced by the X files? Too many to count. The conspiracy to hide the existence of aliens....hell the whole mythology that ran for nine seasons was ignored. The show ended with the date given for the invasion...and now Mulder and Skully are off rowing on a boat and waving. What a joke.
July 27, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST
The closing of the first movie has Scully saying "If I quit they win". Well this movie showed that they did quit. Thanks for fucking nine season of the X-files and making them completely irrelevant. Of course we could just pull a Superman three and four and just pretend this movie never happened. Sigh.
July 27, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST
Nobody wanted to see Dogget and Reyes and Gibson Praise and super-soldiers and all that tired alien conspiracy stuff they ran completely into the ground the last 4 seasons of the show. The movie needed to go back to the show's roots. All anybody cared about was Mulder and Scully and a supernatural scare and not all those layers and layers and layers of piled on claptrap - and apparently not too many people cared about that. Which is sad.
July 27, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST
if carter had smashed [REC] into an X-Files episode. instead we got silence of the lambs shot in so much snow, it looked like fargo.
July 27, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST
by maxwell's hammer
...that bashing "X-Files" is the new bashing "Lost: Season 2". I'll bet if you deleted the negative comments of the people who haven't even seen the movie, you'd probably cut this talkback in half.<BR> <BR> I appreciate Harry's disappointments, and the analysis provided by my good friend, Shermdawg, but in the end, this was a solid extended episode of "The X-Files" which would have felt a little masterbatory if it had started cramming in the old, rather convoluted storylines and shoehorning in characters that are tonally different (polar opposites, in fact) from the story being told here.<BR> <BR> And as someone above pointed out, this wasn't really a big summer blockbuster kind of movie, which makes it a surprising thing to release in July. As Geekgasm said, its a small movie that takes the characters back to their roots, and when you accept the movie on those terms, its a satisfying experience.
July 27, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST
I am an X FILES fan and rushed last night to see the flick. I was surprised it was playing at one of the smaller AMC screens the theater was half full, a bad omen as well. I was quite disappointed with the film, a dreary, pedantic relationship drama with serial thriller overtones, obviously the film - though strikingly shot - was aiming for an existential, faith versus science motif, it seemed just over 90 minutes and lacked any action, tension or interesting set pieces. A far cry from the original which made over $100 million and played the larger screens, don’t expect any FBI buildings exploding, massive saucers hidden under ice caps, swarms of bees attacking our principals, and the other big setpieces in the original - this is a very intimate, small film revolving around an uninteresting premise. It’s a real pity, because Gillian Anderson is amazing in it. Duchovny however was surprisingly glib and weak in this film, relegated to puns, getting his ass kicked several times… Exhibitors aren’t stupid, they saw this flick and realized it didn’t deserve the largewr auditoriums, flick is way too cerebral and tedious for the summer masses. Fox couldn’t have opened this no matter how much money they threw at the marketing. Pretty sad really. I don’t even think even rabid X-Files fans will enjoy this.
July 27, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST
by maxwell's hammer
well I'm an X-Files fan, and I did enjoy it, so I guess your entire review is now debunked.<BR> <BR> I'm halfway joking. You're wrong, but I guess you're allowed to not enjoy a movie if you want to.
July 27, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST
i hate to say this again, but you're lying to yourself. i LOVED the x-files, and was excited for the movie. i knew it was a stand-alone so i had already prepared myself to not really see any mythology. (hey, i was happy at just skinners presence) <br><br>what im saying is that i went it to this movie with low expectations as an x-files fan, and thinking i would be relatively easy to please..<br><br>but even with that mindset i was let down. this movie is small. it doesnt feel like 'cinema event' in any form. it looks like it was filmed in vancouver where the TV show was filmed instead of on location (was it? i dont even know, and now i dont care enough to look further into it) <br><br>and, like its been said a million times already, its not even a good x-files episode. it was a mediocre one at best. the kind of episode that if it was aired during the TV run, i would have figure.."meh, that one was just okay.. i cant wait for the end of the month when krycek shows up again!" <br><br>its a letdown. the plot doesnt seem big enought for the FBI to pull mulder out of hiding. (one agent is missing, and they already have a solid lead with the priest showing them where the body parts are.. so why call spooky mulder? maybe if he was still with the FBI in his little hidey hole it would make sense, but since hes currently on the run for a federal murder charge, and has been senteced to die by lethal injection..well, it seems a little forced for them to seek him out.) <br><br>i do want to defend one thing though.. i dont think scully went back to being a skeptic. she just didnt want to hear anything a pedophile priest with 37 convictions had to say.. she was being more pissy then skeptic.. although pissy scully is kind of annoying too.<br><br>anyway, im mad at this movie, because im willing to ignore it if it meant more cool x-files in the future (maybe 2012...) but it looks like they successfully killed the show with a tiny, insignificant, final act. <br><br>i hope im wrong, cause i still want to believe.
July 27, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST
by Darth Mulder
...just not a great movie.My biggest question is why was this released in July,just a week after The Dark Knight?Why was Hellboy 2 released just a week before The Dark Knight?The audience for both of these films are in the auditorium showing TDK.There is almost nothing coming out in August yet these studios spend millions of dollars making a film and then screw themselves by giving it a bad release.granted,no one could have predicted that TDK would turn out to be as big as it has become, but still.I think Hellboy 2 should have come out in mid-August and The X Files could have really done well with an October release.
July 27, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST
STEP BROTHERS OPENED AT $30 MILLION THIS WEEKEND. Shame on you American moviegoers. X-Files at least deserved to beat this crap. And yes, I did see both movies this weekend (I was dragged against my will to Step Brothers, thanks to my girlfriend). Having seen X-Files twice now, once at the midnight show, I've gotta say that it's one of the only movies this year that's actually stuck in my head after leaving the theater (in a good way, smartasses). Small, character-driven, low-key. Flawed, oh hell yeah, but I thought it was intelligent and well worth a viewing. The less said about Step Brothers, the better - annoying, abrasive crap. As for I Want To Believe - I loved the part where Leoben from BSG comes across the two-headed dog that Mulder just brained with a hammer, and the one head is still alive even though it's body and second head were dead. Creepy and weird - old-fashioned X-Files imagery.
July 27, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST
it opened at #4. YIKES! i keep hearing from diehard XF fans that the movie will EVENTUALLY make back its 30mill budget back through dvd sales. which i suppose is the ONLY good news about this whole flop.
July 27, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST
by hank henshaw
In the -terrible- series finale it was suggested that the supersoldiers, had taken control of the FBI and it was them that wanted Mulder and Scully dead. That's why I can't believe the FBI would "let the past in the past" or that Mulder and Scully would come out from hiding. It just doesn't make sense. Did Skinner or Doggett kill all the supersoldiers inside the FBI during these 6 years? Also, from what I read in some other sites, some fans of the show are happy with the movie just because it shows Mulder and Scully in bed together. So maybe there is part of the fanbase to blame, besides Carter and Spotnitz.
July 27, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST
As we've all learned with Kevin Smith's movie, a small budget movie, with rabid fans, that earns 10mil. in its opening weekend usually has HUMONGOUS success on DVD. FOX doesn't care how much money the movie makes in the theaters; they care how much the movie makes over the next year. Now, if this moving cost $100mil. to make, and pulled these numbers, FOX would be pissed. But, they already made back 1/3 of their production costs in 3 days? I think FOX will be just dandy with these numbers, fully anticipating a MUCH larger return on DVD sales.
July 27, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST
by maxwell's hammer
Dude, just because you didn't like the movie, doesn't mean those of us who did are lying to ourselves. I don't know what the disconnect is between the movie and those who don't like it. I read all the bad reviews, and had promptly set my standards pretty low. Then while I was watching the movie, I was surprised that it was pretty good. I enjoyed it and was really relieved that all the early reviews had gotten it so wrong. Imagine my disappointment when in the following days, everyone seemed to be taking so much glee in bashing it still. I think there was some early bad momentum and lots of people jumped on that bandwagon.<BR> <BR> Obviously there are a lot of people disappointed that this isn't the X-Files movie they wanted, but for so many people to 'proclain' that its a bad movie, as thought this were some given fact is rubbish. Its certainly not everybody's come of tea, but for what its trying to be, its a good film.<BR> <BR> And incidentally, its not like the head of the FBI slammed his fist down and shouted: "This is a case for Fox Mulder!" It was one FBI agent with a supposed psychic pedophile priest, who was at a dead end in her investigation who thought, "What the hell, it coudln't hurt." I'll admit, that the powers that be would so quickly grant Mulder forgiveness was a little weird, but it was a quick and slightly painful way to gloss over convoluted past continuity (kind of like ripping off a band-aid really fast) in order to get on with a plot that wanted to get away from complicated conspiracy and alien stories and get back to something with a vibe more along the lines of the first season episodes.
July 27, 2008, 2 p.m. CST
by maxwell's hammer
...for all the stupid typos in that last post. Edit function, maybe? Eh? Eh?
July 27, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST
Well I am. X-files was only good with the smoking man and the alien conspiracy. The audience for this show only became really large with the conspiracy story lines. You give your fan base the finger with and movie/episode, we aren't going to see your movie. And I heard that someone from the film said, "Oh yeah, the next one will deal with aliens, if this movie does well". Nice try, I am not going to eat dung to have cake.
July 27, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST
So, I've given this more thought, and perhaps this tanking display at the box office is a good thing. It's been 6 years since any new XF material has been out. Some might say it's been 10 years since any GOOD XF material has been out. So, the build-up and expectations for this movie were astronomical; meaning, no matter what movie you created, you probably wouldn't be able to live up to the inflated expectations of a decade of desire. So, give those high expectations, what happens when the delivery tanks in reviews AND box-office? You've now reduced everyone's expectations for XF to ZERO. XF has a enormous fanbase that will never be dissuaded from enjoying the property. No matter how bad of an XF movie you put out, there will always be a very large group of fans who love the universe (Mulder, Scully, supporting characters, conspiracy, etc.). Add to that a very large group of movie goers who like a good sci-fi/suspense movie. So, FOX waits 3-4 years before given CC/Spotnitz the go ahead for a third movie. Budget stays the same, but they're beaten up over they're last outing (I Want to Believe), and make sure to deliver on the quality. Likewise, expectations are LOW, since everyone got burned on this movie. Word gets out that the new XF movie is better than the last two, and as good as the best episodes, and BAM! XF is back on top. I'd liken it to the rebirth of Star Trek. There will always be an audience, and the horrible sequels only serve to heighten your desire to have your thirst quenched, and anticipate ANY future movie that gets decent reviews. Additionally, I've yet to see it, as a HUGE XF fan, I decided to wait for the fervor to die down. Now that I've read bad review after bad review, I can blissfully go in with very low expectations, and probably walk out completely satisfied.
July 27, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST
somebody make a wish! It was good, but even as I left the theatre (nay, even before the credits rolled) I already felt sad that it had come to this. The movie was good and very X-Files and low-key, but it isn't the type of movie that's gonna draw people in by word of mouth or repeat viewings. I also felt a lot of empathy for the writers (Spotnitz and Carter, I think) since they had to somehow deal with the wreckage left from the last seasons' shit fest, not to mention the series finale itself. I understand the disappointment, too. After all, it's been ten years since the first movie, so we were expecting something special. This was good, but nothing special. One more thing... everyone who bitches about how small this one is needs to go back in time to 1998 and take it up with all the whiney bitches who complained that the first movie was TOO BIG and not X-Files-ish. Also, Du Pont apparently has ADD, since Skinner's appearance is explained via a phone call to Xzibit in which Scully hints she's going over his head...it's kept from being explicit so that when Skinner finally does show up, we're surprised.
July 27, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST
word from who exactly?
July 27, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST
The same people who released word early on that this movie was shit. How else does word get out these days? I was referring to the possible word-of-mouth on a possible THIRD X-Files movie. The Internet is like spilled blood: it always looks worse than it really is.
July 27, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST
they probably will since they havent been doing anything before this one. everyone forgot who they were.
July 27, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST
Duchovny has been much more in the spotlight than Anderson. They both said during and post-production, that they would come back to do more. I would assume that if the movie was THAT bad (as bad as the black and white reviews make it out to be), both actors would have known while reading the script, filming the movie, and seeing the final cut, that this movie was crap; if it is, indeed, crap. Since they still insist that they'd like to do more, I don't think this display will change their minds.
July 27, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST
what is that supposed to be??
July 27, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST
6th place? 10th?
July 27, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST
because I truly love both Alien and Predator franchises... unfortunately, both of the AVP movies were coat-hanger abortions....is that a little harsh?
July 27, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST
moved to the uk. Where she was born. She got married. had a kid. got divorced. got married again. Starred in Cock and bull story and Bleakhouse for the bbc. Starred in a play which was slaughtered by the british press. goes back to the US with her new husband and child. second one on the way. or maybe she had the kid. who knows and well who cares frankly.
July 27, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST
by the maven
...That Frank Spotnitz is Brannon Braga to Chris Carter's Rick Berman. I know it's fashionable not to like him now, but Berman produced some damn fine "Star Trek" episodes. The quality of the entire franchise only began to dip, and for that matter, dip proportionately, with Berman giving more and more control over to Braga. "The X-Files" began to tank badly during the fifth season after a so-so fourth season and never recovered - and that was about the time Spotnitz took over more and more aspects of the show. Of course, Duchovney coming down with Caruso syndrome and giving interviews to "TV Guide" and "Entertainment Weekly" about how tired he was of Mulder and how he felt the show was holding him back from a movie star career didn't help the situation any, but the episodes Spotnitz had a hand in scripting always seemed to me to be the most wince-worthy, particularly the later ones. When I heard he co-wrote the script for "I Want To Believe" - and especially after I heard that title - my expectations of this movie dropped through the floor. It's really too bad, because they won't get another chance, and I still want to believe there's a decent "X-files" movie to be made.
July 27, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
But it obviously doesn't, so that'll be the last shovel of dirt on the grave of a once-great show, And it was great. Rest in Peace X-Files, Gillian you and your black bikini are welcome any time. David, give us a call first...you know, to make sure we're there...
July 27, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
Oh well, I WAS gonna see it but they delayed its premiere —for some reason— and now we're not seeing it until August 14th (in Argentina). Now.. I don't know.. eh,
July 27, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST
by Bruce Russell
Duchovny and Anderson have lives outisde of the X-Files franchise, and would be just fine if their entire careers consisted solely of their work on the show. I agree 100% with Harry's review, and hope if there is a third film (there won't be), the studio let's Carter executive produce while handing the reins to some youngster who has both reverence for the material and something new to say about the X-Files.
July 27, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST
moved to the uk. Where she was born. She got married. had a kid. got divorced. got married again. Starred in a play which was slaughtered by the british press. goes back to the US with her new husband and child. second one on the way. or maybe she had the kid.
July 27, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST
And proves that Chris Carter is still losing his battle with prescription drugs.
July 27, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST
are the people who frequent this site.
July 27, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST
It was actually way better than I feared... much better written and directed. I feel like the small scale is throwing people off... its basically just a local-serial-killer flick, so no explosions, no big effects sequences, no money shots. But it is a really serious, amospheric, well-handled, and thoughtfully made little movie (some flaws, but pretty minor). The two leads act their asses off... and the supporting cast backs them up nicely (even Xzibit is plenty professional). Guys... that's what X-files is, thats why it was cool. What the fuck else do you want? What's not to like? Seems like most of the reviews (including Harry's) are reviewing the movie they wanted or thought they'd see, rather than the one they actually saw. I don't buy that "it would be a good episode but its a weak movie." X-files were like little movies as it was; the writing, acting and production was usually of a very high caliber (yeah, it lapsed occasionally, but generally speaking...). Nothing about this feels like TV to me. The story doesn't feel padded (hey! movies have subplots! they're resolved and related to the main story), the pace is even (nowhere does it feel like two episodes stuck together) and the acting and photography are pretty unimpeachable. Yeah, I know movies are expensive, but I'd rather pay for a small, good film like this than a big, bloated, mediocre film (Hancock? X-files tie in Vince Gilligan Scripted). As far as I'm concerned, this film proves there's still life in the franchise...although maybe people would respond better to its original format.
July 27, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST
Very seldom do I read a reveiwer nailing exactly what I'm thinking. Your thoughts here are exactly mine, even the Aliens vs predator comparison (it really is somewhat satisfying just to see them on screen again). I do agree with Subtlety, though: "I don't buy that "it would be a good episode but its a weak movie." X-files were like little movies as it was". Saying I Want to Beleive is like an X-Files tv episode is actually high praise. IWTB is more like season 6-7 calibre than the X-Files at its best. But that's still awfully entertaining when you haven't seen a new X-Files episode in 6 years.
July 27, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST
Good, bad or some where in between this is probably the last we're going to see of The X Files in it's current form. Fox didn't care about this project from day one. If they did they wouldn't have put it against the biggest movie of the year, they wouldn't have given it a budget that would've barely covered most summer movie's craft services cost, they wouldn't have demanded that Carter churn out a script and film it in such a rushed fashion. In short Fox is washing their hands of TXF and simply used this movie to wring the last few cents out of a near dead franchise.
July 27, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST
Carter should have set out to do several X-Files TV movies starting out with this standalone then giving us a few more before the shit hits the fan in 2012.
July 27, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST
Why is the Canadian running time 5 minutes longer than the US running time? 105m vs. 100m.
July 27, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST
Did they cut things out to get a PG-13 rating? Just wondering.
July 27, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST
Which are the best seasons of the X-Files? I know the C.C. seasons are the best but for all you super X-Files fans. Greatest seasons? Episodes?
July 27, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST
by dexter cornell
I thought this film hit all of the notes I wanted. Yes, it's a much smaller film than many expected, but it was also much more about the characters than anyone expected. I had a great time and feel like I finally was rewarded for all of those years worshipping that show. RIP Mulder & Scully.
July 27, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST
by Bruce Russell
I don't even know what that means.
July 27, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST
I'm flippin' channels last night, and I see he's gonna be talkin' about the Bale situation on Fox News, so I leave it, and there's this UFO segment in which he proclaimed X-Files made $25 million over the weekend. -_- <br><br> I should've known better than to quote anything from that fucking channel, and especially HIM.
July 27, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST
i went to the theatre having already read negative reviews and believing the people that gave us so many hours of top notch television would not falter their last chance to get things right and to erase the bitter taste they left in so many fans' mouths during the final abysmal year and a half of the show. so many brilliant ideas-some explored some exhausted but many simply hinted at-and this is what we got? i couldn't believe that FOX would even release this in the middle of the summer or that they even gave this script the greenlight. this is a franchise of a show that not only lost its way towards the end but it alienated its fans too. carter made decisions based on greed-not story or being true to the characters. i disagree with harry in only one thing: a big alien invasion woul dhave made this movie a must see event even if under the shado wof the dark knight. that's what addicted most people to the show-the crazy conspiracy theories, the paranoia and the upcming alien invasion. that's what most of us wanted to see. in the absence of that-and since i heard the budget was mininal, i thought ok, they will make a truly scary and unforgettabel stand alone movie to kick start the franchise again and prove that they still can deliver so that they will get a bigger budget next time around in order to effectively deal with the invasion story line. carter and duchvny have said they want to get back into that storyline so it was a given they'd return to it. what boggles my mind is whoever thought this lame ass episode that resembled a creepy lifetime television movie more than anything else would make any money or get anybody interested except the only remaining fans of the show-the so called shippers that only wanted to see mulder and scully get together. in the end they are the only ones that are satisfied. the rest of us wanted to see this once great franchise come roaring back to life. instead this was the final nail in its coffin. its a shame. i've been a fan of this show since college,i watched until the bitter end and i waited for the chance for them to truly offer us at least one final good adventure, not this. Duchovny and Anderson and we deserved better than this. A screenplay by CArter and Glen Morgan and James Wong, directed by anyone else would have energized the show's dormant fan base once again. give us reason to believe again and we'll be there but dont forget what made people fall in love with the show in the first place. crazy conspiracy theories, paranoia around every corner,monsters in the dark and yes mulder and scully of course. since they've killed off everybody, the only charaters they could have brought back would skinner and marita-their former informant. that's it-no confusing mythlogy like people have been saying or at the very least a scary, kick ass monster movie. anything else than this. this movie made me appreciate fight the future like i never have. i never much liked it but now i see how ambitious it was, how grandiose and fun it was. this time around, i felt like i was wath=ching fucking season 9 all over again-the only season i never bought on dvd nor intend to. damn them for doing this again. Mama Mia in its 2nd week did better than the X-Files. how fucking embarassing but when you piss off the core fanbase and give them no reason to come back, why the fuck should they? an x-files adventure with no aliens, no conspiracy theories AND no monsters?? what the hell? in the end only the shippers got what they wanted. game over, whatever. they had a chance to get it right and instead they made sure it will stay dead. great job guys.
July 27, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST
sequel we deserve....People listen...to be a true fan is to pay for your ticket to see a good episode of the show (That's what this is...a good episode) so that it can pull out with 45 million....get a 15 mil profit...and so we can actually get a bigger budget 2012 end of the world spectacular to finish out X-Files right!!! <P> So, do your part you people that call yourselves fans and take one for the team!!! If you don't then it will be the end of X-files? Unless, you don't think they deserve another chance. anyways, i did my part...
i did my part for this. saw the stupid movie 3 times already with people that had fond memories of the show that wanted to seriously hurt me once it was over. whay pay $12 to see this? um, well, its x-files...
July 27, 2008, 8 p.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
...if they would just pretend everything after the first movie never happened (a "semi-reboot", if you will), people would love X-Files again. All those great dead characters would be back, and Samantha would still be out there.
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July 27, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST
"I'm a little bit skeptic" <br><br> "I believe in the para-normal."
July 27, 2008, 8:20 p.m. CST
by Evil Chicken
Who wouldn’t want to see Mulder and Scully staving off the end of the world? I too liked the movie (props Harry). The acting is solid and the story works – it’s the execution of the story – the direction that appears a little rusty. I want to believe that Chris Carter would bring his A Game to # 3. I hope it happens.
July 27, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST
that about sums it up for me too. i hope they turn out another one somehow, but if this is the swansong for Mulder and Scully, its a much better place to end it than the series' wholly unsatisfying finale.
July 27, 2008, 9:52 p.m. CST
by dexter cornell
We aren't the only ones, my friends and mother who all saw it this weekend (and apparently not many more than that) felt the same way about it. Several hours later, I'm still smiling from the after credits shot. Well worth my $8.
July 27, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST
As a fan of TXF, I really enjoyed this movie, as did my hubby (who is NOT a fan, so I was surprised about that). I actually think hubby might have liked it even more than I did, which says a lot since he never watched the tv show. The film does not deal with your typical X-File story; instead it is a thinking psychological casefile with several twists & turns, the paranormal aspect being a psychic priest. I feel that I will need to go & see it again to really digest all the details, as there is A LOT of info to put together. I loved seeing David Duchovny & Gillian Anderson together again as Mulder & Scully. I think the movie could have benefitted from MORE involvement of the other actors on the series, so I hope that they bring them back for the next movie in a greater capacity. I did find myself missing the mytharc aspect of TXF, so I hope the next movie deals with that (although hubby was happy that there were no aliens &/or government conspiracies). All in all, I think philes and non-philes alike will like this film, so go see it; but plan to see it more than once if you truly want to absorb it all.
fuck this..when are they making Millenium into movie with Lance Henricksen ??
July 27, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST
SOOOO where the fuck are some god damn Mama Mia Reviews!!!!!!!!!!!
July 27, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST
It was sad and forgettable. Fox just wants to be left alone and Scully just wants to be a doctor. Well let them. It was a good run.
July 27, 2008, 11:59 p.m. CST
bigger budget, more cinema QC and a world shaking plot . . . please
July 28, 2008, 1 a.m. CST
by elle kabong
After watching that I have little desire to see another X-Files movie ever. It made me appreciate the pilot for Fringe in scope and presentation. On the positive side, Gillian Anderson was very believable in her performance of someone tired of being involved with these things, but I'm not sure she was acting.
July 28, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST
Movies adapted fron a TV show should like a movie, and not like a cheesy TV reunion film.
July 28, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST
AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE
July 28, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST
I am way curious.
July 28, 2008, 3:57 a.m. CST
After what I believe was a techno version of the show's theme, which started a music video of various shots of melting ice, a sky, flashes of what looks like fields of wheat, Unkle's "Broken" starts playing. The music video slide show continues until the ice turns into an ocean and you see a shadow of a helicopter flying overhead. Eventually the camera pulls back and we see Mulder rowing a small boat with Scully all decked out in a black bikini and white overshirt (it's not closeup at all, so don't get your hopes up...or anything else for that matter). They look up and and wave...fade to black...end of the franchise.
July 28, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST
Your damned if you do and your damned if you don't The movie had its heart in the right place. It was smart to focus on the characters and not too much on the monster of the week. But the third act needed to be at least as thrilling as your average season one episode. If the ending had been more thrilling the whole movie would have been a bit better. It wasn't great. Not really awful. Mulder and Scully still work as evolving characters they just needed a better X-File to pull Mulder out of hiding. A definite rush job by Carter. This reeks of a first draft in dire need of a rework.
July 28, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST
I loved the show and stuck with it through to the end. I won't be going out of my way to see this though. Definitely sounds like something for the *gag* shippers.
July 28, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST
by Bob Cryptonight
Doesn't he need a job?
July 28, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST
You remind me of the "Happening" apologists from last month. We're not X-Files haters, just the opposite. And like The Happening, fans of M Night were hoping it would be a return to form. Alas, it was not. Reread Harry's review. Given the six year wait, we expected more than a wan example of an episode suited for the small screen. And 30 million for a summer "blockbuster"?? Outside of salaries, that didn't leave much to put up on the big screen.<p>After a 10 million dollar opening, do you really think a third will follow? And it wasn't for lack of trying. Anderson and Duchovney were all over the talk shows and USA Today to promote the film.
July 28, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST
Yeah, I mostly agree with Harry. I think the best thing about this is that it felt like a pretty solid episode of the X-Files. Unfortunately, that's also the worst thing about it, too. It didn't blow me away, but all the negative feedback I'd heard thus far had made me think it was going to be shit, which it wasn't. That sad, I don't think they'll draw the big numbers of new fans from this film. (Not sure they're drawing any big numbers, unfortnately, even though the movie's pretty solid.) <br><br>I do hope they get to make X-Files 3 for 2012.
July 28, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST
and seems perfectly happy living her life in England. So good luck with The X-Files:I Still Want To Believe filming anytime soon.
July 28, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST
Here's mine: Didn't part of the Peacock family survive? How about the vampires from Bad Blood? What other good characters/monsters from the series got away? Why not go after them?
July 28, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST
in the new X-Files movie! There's an X in his name. We'll make millions! Millions of millions!! BAHAHAHAHAHA!! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X! X!
July 28, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST
by hank henshaw
I liked the first Final Destination, but that's about it. The One? The Others (tv series)? Final Destination 3? Bionic Woman? Dragonball? Willard? I pass. I rather see someone that never had anything to do with to do with the tv show, but that respects it, write and direct the unlikely next movie. Besides, I'm pretty sure neither Morgan or Wong would be interested in doing any more X-Files.
July 28, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST
The hatred of this movie isn't coming from just "haters". I love X-Files. I liked the first movie. This one sucked. It had no atmosphere, a mundane story, and just felt lazy. Anderson and Duchovny were great, however. They deserved better, and so did we. It makes me sad.
July 28, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST
by Second Try
Always have been, since the 90s. Alien conspiracy my ass. If it starts with X, better be X-men.
July 28, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST
Someone needs to kick Chris Carter in the nuts for writing this shit!!
July 28, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST
by Bob Dobbs
A well-considered, decently written review from the Head Shill himself? Who'da thunk it?
July 28, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST
by Agent Addek
I saw this movie on Wednesday, yes I was one of the lucky 500 that got to see the movie that day, and I loved it. I have been a loyal fan of the show since its inception, this movie was brilliant. It is not your typical movie that you are gonna go sit and see explosions and CGI galore, this is a good old fashion thriller that makes you think. At the heart of the movie is the greatest love story ever told, its about these two characters that we all came to love and root for. So go watch the movie enjoy it, love it, I have seen it 4 times already and I am not planning on stopping, the best film of the year in my opinion and not just because I'm a fan of the show but because I have seen what is out there and let me just say that those other movies don't hold a candle to this film not even Dark Knight, yes yes I said it.
July 28, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST
You are too blind in your fandom to grasp the fact that some of us wanted to see something that reminded us of the show we used to love. We weren't introduced in a CSI/Greys Anatomy Hybrid with paranormal elements.
July 28, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST
I don't know if I'd call it the best movie of the summer, but the further I get away from it, the more I dig it. It was a nice little study of Mulder and Scully. I think, if I'm disappointed in anything, I was led to believe this would be a monster of the week episode, and that it would creep me the fuck out. It wasn't and it didn't, but I still liked what I got, more or less. It certainly was loads better than the horrendous series finale.
July 29, 2008, 12:45 a.m. CST
Here's why everyone should see this movie 3 times... 1st time - At the premiere so I was just in love with, well, everything about the entire day. Almost feels like a blur, didn't come away with much more than joy and I loved it. Even if you weren't at the premiere... after all this waiting and talking we've done for all this time, it's a shocker. Can't judge it on that viewing. So must :0) go back again! 2nd time - A more critical viewing. Started to get more into the underlying subplots. No matter your thoughts the first time, you will be looking more closely at everything. 3rd viewing - LOVED IT! Seriously, I just got back from it (other audience members really enjoyed it too and they weren't 3 timers like me!) After reading everyone's views/insights/opinions on here and other XF places... I really came away thinking how great this movie was. It's deep. There's a lot to think about. Don't you just like movies that have so much going on that you have to really really pay attention to get all the subtext and stuff. I think I realized just how much I loved it during this third viewing when I noticed that the street on which the abductors were doing the surgeries was called Belleflower - the first town that the first XF episode took place in. That NAILED IT FOR ME! Wonder what a fourth viewing will do for it??? Guess I'm going to force myself to check it out. tehe. I can't wait for the dvd. I have so many questions now. I'm hoping we get several commentary tracks and lots of deleted scenes.
July 29, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST
You have to be kidding? The economy is bad and there is no way in hell I'm going to spend any extra entertainment film on garbage.
July 29, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST
...between hardcore fans and plants. I swear, I've heard the same "you must go see it three times" line all over the place. Here, YouTube, various other sites. How much is Fox payin' y'all?
July 29, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST
These people have to be hardcore shippers. As Shatner once said "People, GET A LIFE!"
July 29, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST
In response to that paranoid comment: First of all, you really should be an X Files fan. Paranoia is what we thrive on. Secondly, is it so hard to understand that there are large cult followings of certain artistic works of entertainment? My God, there are still people who exist today who are obsessed with the Rocky Horror Picture Show - or the theatrical representation - the Rocky Horror Show - people who know exactly what to shout so the next line in the play sounds dirtier than it did before. My point is, there are thousands of X-Philes who still exist in America & the UK, and dare I say HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of X-Philes throughout the world. As much as you want to see this film fail, and as bad as 4th place opening weekend may look, X-Philes believe was they were taught in their cult-hit watching. . . "DON'T GIVE UP!" "THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE" etc. so suck it!
July 29, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST
I grew up with the show, I love the show. And I can understand going to see a flick multiple times. However, some of the posts littered across the message boards and comment sections are a bit too obvious that they aren't from genuine fans.
July 29, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST
I'm gonna try to see it again this weekend if I'm not too busy. Seriously.
July 29, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST
John Kenneth Muir's Reflections on Film/TV Monday, July 28, 2008 MOVIE REVIEW: The X-Files: I Want to Believe (2008) Belief isn't easy to come by these days. But - despite most reviews - I still believe in The X-Files. Perhaps the biggest problem with this new film (sub-titled I Want to Believe) arises not from the stars (or the production itself), but from ourselves, and -- specifically -- our expectations. Based on the savage reviews proliferating on the web and in print, audiences and critics apparently desired a Wrath of Khan, when what they actually get is...The Search for Spock. In other words, X-Files: I Want to Believe is a more intimate, cerebral adventure than it is a "big event" summer movie. There are virtually no optical special effects in this movie. I could detect no (or very little) CGI. There are few action sequences. There is little violence of any kind, actually (I don't believe a single gun is fired...). Mulder and Scully never even carry fire-arms, as far as I can detect. And there are no explosions whatsoever. All the fireworks, rather...are purely human; emotional. Accordingly, the climax is one that relies on the specific nuances of human interaction and relationships, not fights, chases, or gun-fire. The film's success hinges on such old--fashioned elements as atmosphere and mood. A wintry, oppressive location -- West Virginia -- is practically a supporting character here, and the build-up of real suspense is generated through effective use of solid film techniques such as cross-cutting. This is good work, beautifully photographed; it's merely out-of-step with the kind of movies being offered in our cineplexes today. Honestly, I Want to Believe's greatest failing has nothing to do with what it is; but rather what it is not; what people apparently "wanted" to believe about the form it would take. One of The X-Files' trademark phrases was "Resist or Serve" and I remembered that catchphrase with bemusement while I watched I Want to Believe. The new movie daringly resists formula and classification. It flouts expectation, and what I've detected so far in the criticism of the film is a total unwillingness to engage with what the movie actually is about. I suppose if a movie isn't exactly like Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, or Dark Knight, well...critics don't know what to make of it. Audiences apparently feel the same way: the film opened in fourth place this weekend and grossed a disappointing ten million dollars (roughly the same opening week haul of Serenity in 2005). Yet The X-Files I Want to Believe was made cheaply - at under thirty five million dollars. Just a bit of history: that's what it cost, or thereabouts, to make Star Trek V: The Final Frontier in 1989. Almost twenty years ago. At the very least, Carter and his team were frugal...and that fact may be a saving grace for the franchise. Which - reviews to the contrary - has a lot of life and energy left in it. It's only a "dull" or "boring" movie (as critics assert), if you choose not to engage with it. I Want to Believe picks up six years after the finale of the popular Fox series (which ended in 2002). Mulder (David Duchovny) and Scully (Gillian Anderson) are living together in a small but comfortable house, and Mulder has grown a beard and pretty much retreated from the world. Despite the fact he knows his sister is dead, Mulder has not given up searching for "the truth" about what happened to her. Meanwhile, Scully is a successful medical doctor at a Catholic hospital and enmeshed in the treatment of a very sick little boy; one with a terminal illness. It's a quiet, relatively "normal" life for the most part; a normality that is shattered when the FBI solicits Mulder's help in solving a new and urgent "X-File" (in return for a pardon...). An F.B.I. agent named Monica Bannon has disappeared in the snows of gloomy West Virginia, and a fallen priest named Father Joe (Billy Connolly) claims to be experiencing psychic visions related to her case. In fact, he leads a team of FBI searchers to a burial ground of body parts in a vast, foreboding ice field (a beautifully-filmed, tense sequence). But Father Joe may not be credible...in part because of his past. He's a convicted pedophile, you see. Mulder and Scully each boast a different perspective on Father Joe (naturally...), and their viewpoints are so contradictory that these opinions threaten to fracture their (now longstanding...) emotional relationship. This case revives Mulder's obsessive, brooding nature; and it reminds Scully of the darkness she has sought to escape. So...what is The X-Files: I Want to Believe really about? In a deep, meaningful way, it concerns the concept of redemption. I don't mean that the movie pays lip service to the notion of redemption as that concept currently exists in the superficial popular culture lexicon (see: Angel). There's nothing comfortable or easy about how this film portrays the central moral dilemma. The crimes Father Joe committed against the innocent are utterly monstrous, as Scully rightly points out. Father Joe knows that society will never forgive him, but wonders if God can do so. And here's where things get....murky. Father Joe castrated himself at age 26 in order to "kill" the horrible, seething appetite that led him to commit such crimes. And now, Father Joe chooses to live in a group home for pedophiles, one where sex offenders live in shame and police each other's behavior. It is a sort of Hell on Earth to live amongst such scum, especially for a Man of God. Are these signs he has changed? And, of course, Father Joe claims he is experiencing psychic visions about that missing FBI agent, and wants to help the police find her. Is he to be trusted? Would the Divine empower a man like Father Joe with second sight? If his visions are real, are they from God? The Devil? Or is he just an accomplice in Monica's capture...? The underlying moral quandary is this: What great "right" can undo a great "wrong?" In the fantastic and noble tradition of The X-Files, Scully and Mulder view Father Joe and his predicament in radically different ways. The series always concerned the opposing viewpoints of these two characters, and how their beliefs (and biases) shaped their perception of reality. It's the same thing here. Scully believes Father Joe is a depraved attention-seeking monster, that his visions are a hoax and a cry for attention. Mulder wants to believe that men like Father Joe can change, that redemption is possible, and that Father Joe's psychic visions are legitimate. Pretty serious stuff. No summer movie featuring a convicted pedophile in a central role is ever going to find popularity in America. That's a fact. We go to movies to escape, generally, not to engage and this may simply be one bridge too far for mass audiences. Father Joe's inclusion and role in the story is a courageous (perhaps even self-destructive) choice on the part of writers Spotnitz and Carter because the film's central dilemma makes audiences confront the idea of real redemption in a very tangible, very challenging, very realistic way. It is easy to forgive someone who seems heroic; someone who is beautiful; or someone who had an excuse for what he did. But what about forgiving someone for committing the worst crime (a crime against a child...) imaginable? I'm not saying you should forgive; that anyone should forgive. However, if you are not willing to forgive Father Joe, there are repercussions to that decision. The biggest one is that you can't say you believe in redemption, can you? If you don't let "good works" account for something in the cosmic tally of morality, you can't claim you believe in forgiveness, either. Nor can you claim to be a Christian, because forgiveness is the very crucible -- the beating heart -- of Christianity. I'm not condoning any particular interpretation....just commenting on the moral implications of this film. It will challenge your beliefs, and force you to evaluate what you think when the decision "to forgive" is not easy; not superficial. I still can't believe a mainstream film (and a franchise film; and a sequel, for god's sake...) tread so deeply (and bravely) into this unsettling territory, but I'm glad it did. The X-Files: I Want to Believe effectively holds a mirror up to all those who claim belief in Christ's teachings yet actually thrive on hate and draconian notions of punishment and morality. In doing so, it comments explicitly on our times; an epoch when religion is often used to codify hatred of "the other" in our society (and in other societies). This paradigm - this Father Joe Dilemma - is true to everything The X-Files has always been about. The mystery concerning the severed body parts (and the agent's disappearance) has apparently disappointed some critics and viewers too, but it is also very true to The X-Files' history. The series has always concerned our two world-views (belief vs. skepticism/Mulder vs. Scully) vetting mysterious "horror stories" and in the process giving them new life and energy. Spontaneous combustion, demonic possession, ESP, vampires, werewolves, succubi, golems, out-of-body experiences, and other old concepts in the genre were always re-purposed for the show to incorporate the latest advances in paranormal and medical literature and study. I Want to Believe explicitly continues that tradition with a plot concerning organ transplants, stem cell research, and a cadre of outlaw (Russian...) scientists playing Frankenstein. Is it ridiculous? Well...is a man who turns into a giant green superhero when he's angry also ridiculous? Is a man with a leather fetish wearing a black bat suit ridiculous? You may find the specifics of this X-File on the verge of ludicrous (one critic compared it to They Saved Hitler's Brain), but again, the tradition of taking hoary "monster"/horror chestnuts and granting them new (intelligent...) life is a long-standing facet of Chris Carter's creation. The franchise has been around for fifteen years now; so you likely have already decided whether or not this kind of thing works for you. There's another aspect of I Want to Believe that works surprisingly well. It too has been ridiculed by reviewers. It's a brief comment said - oddly enough - by Father Joe. He urges Scully not to "give up" at a critical point, yet - as he himself readily admits - he has no reason to have said it to her. "Don't give up" may seem like an easy platitude (gee, like "with great power comes great responsibility?"), but it is actually kind of touching here; a short-hand for much good material. Especially when played between Mulder and Scully. In Duchovny and Anderson's deft hands, "don't give up" is one lover's comment to another in the face of hardship, past hurts and regret. Scully can't give up on the boy whom she is treating now because of the little boy (William) she once gave up on. And balanced against the Mulder/Scully relationship is a man (Callum Keith Rennie) -- a villain -- who steadfastly refuses to "give up" on the life of his lover...and goes to extreme (and really, really radical...) means to see that his lover survives. One plot is played against the other, and I found the balance elegant and touching, not cheesy. Another theme here is the "burying" or cleansing of the past. The criminals responsible for Bannon's abduction attempt to bury the past (and their crimes) in the ice. Mulder hopes to cleanse his past too (if he just saves this one woman, he will have made up for failing his sister all those years ago). Scully, by saving her patient believes she can be cleansed of her guilt over William. But along comes Father Joe - a man with a past anyone would want to hide - who instead focuses on digging up the past (digging in the ice, in the snow, literally). Things keep coming to the surface. Things that must be dealt with. The violent scenes in this film are tense, and make surprisingly strong use of a snowplow as a weapon. The bleak locale and the hidden secrets there keeps you alert, looking for clues amidst the ubiquitous falling snow. The location reflects the dark heart of the characters, and the final moment (post-credits) is a splendid (if brief...) catharsis; a release from the blinding white snow of Somerset, WV. More emotionally touching than exciting; more moody and lugubrious than spectacular, more contemplative than action-packed, more dark and foreboding than shocking, this is an uneasy, unsettling X-Files movie in which the truth isn't "out there" but rather "in here" - in us. In the endless mysteries of the human heart and human behavior. // posted by John Kenneth Muir @ 5:25 AM http://reflectionsonfilmandtelevision.blogspot.com/2005_10_02_archive. html
July 29, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST
There were definitely some flaws in the film to throw fault on Carter and Spotnitz; however, the BIGGEST flaws fall on FOX for two reasons: 1) Releasing this movie in a time period where it doesn't fit (ie, releasing it as if it's a blockbuster, and then expecting that fans would go to the theaters TWICE in 1 weekend to see DK and XF), and 2) for spending practically NO money on advertising. I think the blame falls 70% on FOX, and 30% on Carter/Spotnitz.
July 29, 2008, 8:15 p.m. CST
you can overanalyze everything and word it to whichever way you like to but we're dealing with a deeply fractured fanbase here that walked away from the show while the show was still on the air. that's the truth. aside from that, yes expectations of a comeback in the middle of the summer blockbuster season also colored this 'reunion" unfavorably. and yes i have also said it that if it were released at another date, it would have done much better than the hoffically low numbers it pulled. but the point is, it was a weak story-to say the least. carter has been trying to write his own (or re-write0 BEyond the Sea and Clyde Bruckman since God knows when and each time, he fails. the strength of this movie isn't the plot or the direction which is rather uninspired and flat or the pacing and editing which also seem awkward but dd and ga who were always able to make the lesser moments of the series into something worth watching. but to claim this as a deep movie and that critics and people are "missing" it and that it requires mutliple viweings to 'get it" is quite frankly insulting. i saw the damn thing 3 times already and none of them were pleasurable except for seeing mulder and scully again. this movie was made for the only remaing loyal fans to the show the shippers and it shows. it only attracted one fourth of the sudience from fight the future. why? this was a massive hit once. massive. there is more here that is worng than people not getting it. its a dreary, unpleasant and quite frankly uninspred script. plain and simple. and i'm tired of cc and fs writing m&s. at their pen or keystroke whatever, m&s are always declaring positions-they never or rarely sound human as opposed to scripts by glen morgan and james wong, darin morgan, vince gilligan and even david duchovny. yes time of release sucks for this type of movie. yes our expectations were not met in the least and yes perhaps we willone day look at this as the epilogue that m&s deserved to get rather than the atrocious season finale. but it lacked the awe and wonder and even the soul of the series. if looked upon as an epilogue, as a good bye then yes its good and it should have aired on TV where it belongs. but looked upon by any other way its baffling how inferior it is to most of what has come before it. i wasn't into this to see mulder and scully as a couple-never cared much one way or the other. there is nothing to redeem this-its just that many other factors also contributed to tis failure and threw an even harsher spotlight on its shortcomings.
July 29, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST
by The Gipper
Bring back Morgan and Wong to write the script for and to direct the next one (if they even make one after the crappy $10M this one made in its first weekend.)
July 30, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST
From what I heard, and the budget and how fast it took to make this I figured it was an episode and I went in thinking that. So I can't really complain for being surprised. <p>I went in wanting to know what happened to the characters even though I don't have a lot of faith in Carter that he could do that for me in a satisfactory way.</p> <p>As it is I was thrilled just to see Mitch Pillegi as Skinner again. I felt for sure he was going to get left out like all the other supporting cast when the show was on its last leg. As I said I want to know what happened to the characters.</p> <p>The great supporting cast that were the glue that held my interest all dropped like flies and that was my biggest problem with the X-files in it's later run. That and the story was too convoluted and I don't think I'll ever understand all of it. There is too much about the plot for me later on, that was assumed rather then explained.</p> <p>I agree this movie would of been better with a more dynamic approach to special effects and a bigger budget just to show things you've never seen M and S deal with before.</p> <p>But that does not excuse the fact that the story was not all that earth shattering or significant worthy of a movie. Big budget is not going to save that.</p> <p> Also considering the numbers I really doubt Fox would ever give X-files a big budget. If a colonization movie ever comes out I think it will be disappointing. Probably wont even mention Scully's kid in it. And also since a lot of the old characters who were significant to the mythology are dead I'm sure there will ones that will replace and they will just never be as good.</p> And other then my disagreement that the mythology shouldn't be revisited I still agree that Scully did start to get on my nerves and she was being a bit hypocritical with Mulder. I also found the whole pedophile priest plot to be annoying beyond words.
July 30, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST
Great film. Nicely done. Great acting, cinematography and directing. All on a low budget. Something that is incredibly hard to do these days. Quite impressive. Pretty sad that many people have listened to the critic's bad reviews of the film. The critics totally missed it. Guess they don't know how to understand and review a thriller that makes you think. Of course the critics still have Batman, Indy Jones and Ironman on the mind and seeing a film like this with no CGI, explosions, car chases and super heroes in capes and obligatory promotion at your local fast food chain.
July 31, 2008, 5:47 a.m. CST
Sounds good - it opens here in the UK today, will check it out. Nice to see some people are enjoying the film.
July 31, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST
Several people above have stolen some of my thunder as I have been putting "the expectations" aspect of how well one likes or dislikes this film in review all over cyberspace. I would not profess myself to be an X-file fan nor do I have any stake in whether it wins or fails at the box office (Gillian and David will do fine either way) but I come to these boards to express one thing--this is a well written, good, Independent film that can be either a beginning or an end. Chris Carter & Co. took all nine seasons of the X-files and one film and created a QUILT threaded with the relationship of Mulder & Scully and wove it together through a present-day storyline. If one paid attention you might see the possibility in this film of many endings that now leave openings or you could simply hang it on your wall and say, "It was a great life and I will treasure it always". Again, perception is everything? As for me, I think very little of films like the Dark Knight that rest soley on entertaining my senses and represent scripts that have been replayed over-and-over. What's brilliant about that? This, however, brought the old lady out into the regular theaters once again.
July 31, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST
i saw this film last night and loved it, but then i'm not into cheap gimmicks and sfx, just good stories. my mum is seeing it again this weekend even tho she hates cinemas and never watched the series. her idea of a good time is an evening in with 'the man who would be king' on dvd. also... i agree with 'tricky dicky', i loved the original indiana jones trilogy (some of it was filmed at my school!)i spent more time, in the last 40mins looking at our watches rather than the screen. the 'silly shit' you mentioned was just plain stupid.
July 31, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST
The issue is not about the lack of CGI. Had this film had a BETTER story it would have some in second to Dark Knight. The majority of X-Files wanted to see something that reminded of the show they loved. Instead they caught a pathetic crime melodrama with a few paranormal elements thrown in. Oh and stop blaming its failure on the lack of CGI. The Sixth Sense made over 200 Million and it was a summer film so your lack of CGI BS excuse is lame. Had they come up with with a better story that appealed to fan bases, this film would have come in second place.
Aug. 1, 2008, 1:20 a.m. CST
I loved this movie... the 1st and 2nd time that I saw it.. I held my attention, made me think, and was total enjoyment... it had it all that I wanted, would loved to have had a bit more Mulder and Scully, but the scenes were awesome.. would have loved to have had more of an X-File case, but it was a case and it was interesting and it had it moments.. I will be seeing this again and I will be keeping my eye for another movie to come... this movie just piqued my interest 10 fold all over again.. yes I want to believe, so I did, I am happy for that! most excellent movie!
Aug. 2, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST
by MR. MURDOCH
and I LOVED THIS MOVIE. Seen some episodes through the years, but never been a hard-core, see every episode fan. I like movies about people. You know, people you can BELIEVE in? People who are complicated? People who fight for what they believe in, no matter how complicated or contradictory it may seem to someone else, or even to the one they love? This movie was all about BELIEVING. In many different ways. Now I understand the title. But it was also about so much more than that. Every single scene had extra layers, visually, narratively and thematically. It's a great piece of work. And yes, part of the problem may be that so-called "fans" "Wanted to Believe" they were getting a much different kind of movie. Expectations don't equate to quality here. It's entirely the inverse. Carter and Spotnitz realized this and pulled a fast one on us all -- Unfortunately, in doing so, they may have prematurely doomed their own franchise. But I don't care -- getting THIS movie is better than not "getting" it -- and yes, I mean that in multiple ways. This movie spoke to me on a level that few do these days, *especially* that few Hollywood films do. Definitely Best Movie of the Summer. Yes, better than Dark Knight (which I feel is quite overrated in so many ways).
Aug. 3, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Cheers, phoenixmagi2, that is the new GL thread rallying cry.<P> I haven't seen XF2 yet, and to be honest - a few sequences aside - wasn't a major fan of the first movie. I'd twigged a year or so before XF1 that the so-called conspiracy arc was actually a made-up-on-the-fly piece of nonsense, and that the mosnter-of-the-week eps were the best ones. I also stayed with the series to the end, which I liked right up to the last *SPOILER* episode - WHY GET THEM TOGETHER! WHY?!? - *END SPOILER *. But this movie does sound like a bust, and for the same reason the prequels bust up the STAR WARS franchise - both run by powerful owner-creators who DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHEN TO QUIT! This last post-credits scene sounds like CC has finally lost his mind - which is a shame, because losing the XF franchise to this apparently awful movie is as bad as losing the SW franchise to GL's insanity and hubris.<P> I'll know soon enough. I'm off to see it this week...
Aug. 3, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
I don't know about the other fans, but for me one of the main reasons I'd hate to see them revisit the conspiracy arc in a movie is to do with how badly this was handled in the last episode of the series. A coherent attempt was made to tie up all the loose ends and make that arc work as a narrative that made sense - and it utterly failed. I can only assume that M&S last scene together was inserted to give the "I want them to get together!" fans something to keep them happy - at the expense of the conspiracy arc fans who'd hoped for a decade for an ending to that arc that would blow them out of the water. What we got was a confusing mess that even M Night Shyamalan would have baulked at.<P> I think a new writer, or one of the best series writers - Morgan or Wong, preferably - in the hot seat, with Carter producing and a new director who can handle intimate material with an epic scope, making it. The 2012 alien invasion could be awesome - and if we're eschewing the ID4 way of doing an invasion, go for the BODY SNATCHERS style of invasion, one city at a time, with M&S in a position to start a resistence to it - to unmask it (like the series V). This could be great - an epic scope with an intimate, eye-on-the-ground view of evets (think CLOVERFIELD with more watchable camerawork) - and would give THE X-FILES the kick-ass requiem it rightly deserves. Oh, and give Doggett and Reyes a role. They were great!
Aug. 3, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Yes, I totally contradicted myself in that last post - going from "don't do an arc movie!" to "THIS is how you should do an arc movie" in one post. I don't care, I changed my mind, and I'm right. So, nyer.
Aug. 3, 2008, 7:34 p.m. CST
I wasn't going to until Roper recommened it, and I took in the reviews, which got me curious. I liked it for what it was, and it was essentially an episode of the show and not a big screen film. The release date did wind up causing this to do worse than it should have, but it was never a blockbuster, and I'm glad for that. I don't have much interest in seeing the X-Files injected into a Summer blockbuster. For that, I think it worked alot better for me than the first film.
Aug. 4, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST
I would just want it to end after that. Just everything finally comes together. But creators like Carter wouldn't want it to end and it would be watered down in hopes he can do more. I had a feeling he thought he was confident the story wasn't over when I watched the last episode. Guess he didn't think he'd be in a legal battle with Fox for years after instead.
Aug. 4, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST
It was Fox that kept renewing the show year after bloody year. Mulder's abduction at the end of season, what? 7? when Scully told Skinner she was pregnant? They thought that was going to be it (which is the reason that episode was set in the same town with the same characters as the pilot episode) but the network picked it up again and then picked it up AGAIN the season after that. The Conspiracy storyline had gotten pretty meandery and annoying by season 7 but after that, with the super soldiers and Adam Baldwin and Lucy Lawless all that shit, that was when the wheels really came off and you could sense them making it up as they went along. So if you're looking fora bad guy, Fox deserves as much blame as Carter and maybe more.
Aug. 12, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST
seriously...i see a lot of 1st time posters with xfiles type handles loving this movie way too much. is there any way to search someone's posting history?
Aug. 13, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST
I can search my own history, I don't know if you can search it too. I guess if everyone told you their user number you might be able to find us. You could always put the user names into google or something and search that way. Try "aintitcool" and the user name, and make sure to repeat the search for omitted results. I could only find mrs_thetruthisoutthere on this thread, but then anyone who tells you to see a movie 4 times before you judge it is coming from crazyville, plant or animal.
Aug. 13, 2008, 1 p.m. CST
an understated movie for sure...and non-fans will not get as much from it as hardcores will...but it was great seeing them back together and I thought it was a cool story. BRING ON A 3RD!! this movie did not "suck", it just not what was expected.
Aug. 15, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST
...wipes the pie off the soles of its shoes with this movie. I'm sorry, but it's true.
Aug. 25, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST
I mean theyre systematically fucking over every single one of their franchises.
Aug. 29, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST
I wish I had gone to the theatre to see it. Due to all the negative reviews, it sat in my downloads folder for quite a while. I watched it after my most anticipated film of the year, the Korean "A Man Who Was Superman" let me down. God, I was geeking out on this one. I loved the Frankenstein bit, but would have preferred it if it were a spinal transplant film, like The Game from Korea. The little brain tumor boy wasn't my cup of tea, and all the talk about cancer made me uneasy. I am genuinely terrified of that illness. All in all, I gave it a 7/10. I'll be buying it on DVD fo'sho.
Aug. 30, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST
was great in this, I thought.