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Comic-Con Isn't The Only Place To See Cool Stuff!! An AICN Spy Watches Two Sequences From Abrams' STAR TREK!!

Merrick here...
Just because J.J. Abrams didn't drag any STAR TREK footage to Comic-Con? Doesn't mean footage from Abrams' STAR TREK wasn't seen. And just because so many AICN folks are at Comic-Con? Doesn't mean our operatives aren't elsewhere as well. Watching...waiting... Case in point: this message from Mr. Atoz, who recently got a look at a two sequences from Abrams' new TREK movie. Mr. Atoz refers to the "captain" in command of Enterprise several times. This is undoubtedly Bruce Greenwood's Christopher Pike. Pike commanded the ship before Kirk, and features prominently in this film. Let's cut to the chase. Here's Atoz...
The first scene starts out with this massive convoy of freighters (may be refugees?), each towing 2 or 3 even bigger cargo looking crates behind them with tractor beams. They look big and slow-moving. Sort of trapezoid shaped with the narrow end being the front. They're brown in case you were wondering. I'd say there were about 12-15 on screen in a sort of non-general formation. The Enterprise is near the rear as what I assume is an escort. They all make the jump to warp. I can't emphasise how real they look. They all use models, no super shiny pure CGI like in Nemesis. There's a lot of white light surrounding the ships as they make the jump to warp and then it cuts to the interior of the Enterprise's bridge with the camera pointing at the view screen. The view screen is much bigger, and much closer to the Captain's chair and forward consoles. The view is of the warp jump. It looks like the stuff from the TMP era, with streams of mainly white light with a slight rainbow hue forming a tunnel and the view shaking a bit to show the ship is rocketing along. Definitely doesn't seem like the nice smooth cruise from the TNG series. Then it jumps back to space where all of a sudden there are these red streaks of light tearing right through the unshielded freighters and sending several of them up in flames. Everyone lurches out of warp. View of the bridge, with everyone reacting in confusion and trying to find out what's going on. Looks like everyone's in cadet uniform except for the guy in the captain's chair who looks about late 30s, early 40s. Some tech talk about the scanner readings being blocked by the explosions. Some frantic chatter about detecting a signal from the "Yorktown". On screen command given, and another Constitution class ship appears on screen except it's completely destroyed (really doesn't seem all that different from the old movie Constitution class). Gasps all round. Now this is one shot I have to single out for praise. It looks so real and harrowing, like seeing the remains of a collapsed skyscraper. The viewscreen POV is of the side of the Yorktown, with saucer section on the left side. The nacelles and most of the top half of the secondary hull is just gone, blown off, with thick black smoke billowing out every which way. The viewscreen suddenly changes to show the face of what looks most definitely like a (rather human-looking) bad guy smirking in triumph. Footage ends abruptly before he can speak. Now comes the next scene which looks to be slightly later, with the first full battle sequence. The captain is still the captain (no sign of Kirk yet, I think he was on the bridge as just another cadet) and he's exchanging barbs with the villain over an audio link as their ships engage each other. The captain's saying how the bad guy's ship (the Sunfire? Sunflower?) can't protect him. Cut to exterior shot of the ship in question stationary. It's long and pointy, like a Vulcan ship but it has a tri-nacelle configuration, with these sort of loops joining them to one another. It looks a bit like the Planet Express ship except it's much longer and is, well, orange coloured. I'd say it's about the same mass as the Enterprise, maybe more, but it's much longer and more space is taken up by the engines. We then cut to the Enterprise moving in slowly and firing a torpedo. Now these torpedoes are bright red and look just like the normal ones from the TMP movies, except it's really BIG. Like twice the size and homes in slowly but directly to the Sunfire. It doesn't actually strike the ship, but explodes once it gets within range, and once again the result is BIG. There's a small initial explosion and at the centre is this sort of double-ended cyclone of fire, which is spinning from the outset and increases in speed to generate this massive flare. The resulting explosion is the size of the Enterprise. This takes about 3 seconds in total. The Enterprise then fires a phaser beam that strikes the Sunfire and makes the ship visibly shake. Again big, rather thick but this time it's the yellowy-orange of the TNG era phaser. The Sunfire then fires off torpedoes every which way and two strike the Enterprise. During this exchange you can see the shields of both ships flashing bright white electrical-like when the weapons hit, like when a bulb blows. Very quick or you'll miss it. You get the impression that either ship could be destroyed by just a handful of hits with these weapons. Interior of the birdge and the thing is shaking all over from the frist torpedo hit. Cadets are sprawling all over the floor (very few seats on the bridge, only Captain and the 2 forward consoles, maybe the science console as well has one). And the scene ends. Sorry I couldn't note down the dialogue but the footage must have been less than a minute in total. The whole thing took me by surprise and I didn't get a second viewing. But, man, what I did notice just stuck in my head for days like any cool mind-blowing scene like the plane crash in Final Destination or the B2 bombing the Cloverfield creature. I can't emphasise enough just how real and how enormously big everything seemed.

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  • July 25, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor not a....

    by The Shyster

    oh, wait. Nevermind. I'll get right on it.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    btw, Simon Pegg & Quinto are gonna steal this movie

    by The Shyster

    they get all they funny lines ;)

  • July 25, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Really first?

    by Danger Vole

    Where my nerds at?

  • July 25, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    To boldly cheese where no man has cheesed before

    by Gerald Fried

    Star Trekkin across the universe

  • July 25, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    You 'first' posters are red shirts :::rolleyes:::

    by The Shyster

    don't type 'cool stuff' if you did'nt really read the article & you're nerds are still reading the damn thing, cause they actually care about the spoilers. Assfaces. :)

  • July 25, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST


    by Danger Vole

    Anyway. The beginning sounds just like Battlestar, and Battlestar...the remake...and kind of like the opening of The New Hope...and Fifth Element. But apart from that, sounds interesting. Love that they're using models.

  • July 25, 2008, 6 p.m. CST

    I keel Youuuuuu!!!!!

    by pokadoo

    I Keel Youuuuu!!!!!!

  • July 25, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Terminator 4: The Undiscovered Termination

    by manicart1

    This sounds promising. Engage More-Visceral-Trek-Universe!

  • July 25, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    We'll have to wait and see...

    by WaylandSmith

    Of course, we haven't seen or heard very much, but nothing about this production, so far, is pissing me off. Cast looks good. Teaser poster pretty cool...Looking forward to it at this point.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Bruce Greenwood

    by skimn

    One of favorite secondary actors, like Zeljko Ivanek, never given a bad performance. Even in stuff like I Robot.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Don't care...

    by MichaelCorleone

    Abrams has been so secretive that I no longer care. This is a film that is going to have a lot going against it and he chose not to show anything at the one place he could possibly gain momentum. It's becoming painfully clear. Does anyone really want a reboot of this? Because everything that Abrams does lives up to expectations. <sarcasm>

  • July 25, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Anxious about showing your movie at ComiCon?

    by Insane Tiki

    Do the next best thing - send a description of the footage to a popular movie website with a vivid description, that way nobody can pick apart your barely finished effects.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, proofreading is not my forte.

    by Insane Tiki

    But you know what I mean. No way is this a spy report. This is a purposeful, controlled leak.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    I'm so glad they're using models.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    The CGI just didn't look as elegant as the models, in any facet. Especially on Enterprise, god that was a shit show. How great did the Enterprise D look back in the day. Really glad they're bringing that aspect back.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    I want it to be good

    by performingmonkey

    Seriously, who DOESN'T?? But Trek is good because of the characters, the actors as opposed to how Trek-like it is. The Shatner/Nimoy/Kelly dynamic, along with the rest of the crew, WERE Trek.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Damn you Abrams....

    by adhive

    and your controlling leaks.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    I'm curious


    where the "spy" got this special viewing from?<p> Besides Harry and those who are working on the film under strict NDA's I might add, who has seen this? Unless AtoZ (way to keep it topical btw) is part of the production. Possibly visual effects?

  • July 25, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Abrams' "Star Trek" = New Coke (Coke blinked; remember?)

    by WX1

    <p>'s all it is. No way is this going to satisfy the blue-blooded "Star Trek" fans.</p> <p>Whoo-hoo, "Star Trek" gets to have a whole new generation (pardon the pun) of fans who'll be able to tell the ancien regime, "no, no, you got it wrong, THAT ain't" Starfleet this, a-Kirk-a-that. WORSE Abrams version'll have the casual moviegoer irk the ancien regimer with his/her, "oh, I didn't know that about . . ." Yeah, Abrams version'll help us non-Trekkies (OOOPS! "Trekkers") wakarimasu totemo desu yo.</p> <p>This'll be Star Wars as Pepsi, Star Trek as "oh, let's make a new coca cola and call it "new."</p> <p>All hands, indeed.</P>

  • July 25, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I have the advantage...

    by NiceGuyEddie19

    Of not being a hardcore Trek headgeek. And until this movie comes out I'm going to keep it that way. I like getting into indepth franchises with tons of content, so hopefully it will initiate my interest in the entire canon.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Yes Describe the fucking Enterprise!!!

    by picardsucks

    In the teaser it looks much much larger than the original and appears to be asthetically a combo of the original and movie enterprise

  • July 25, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST


    by TheFunkyEnigma

    shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill....

  • July 25, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I must agree with Yackbacker


    Enterprise description NOW!....please? Pretty please with a big fat bugger on top?<p> Although, reading the description Atoz does note that another Connie or rather whats left of it, can be seen and looks like the movie era ship.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    leafy green

    by Dijjot

  • July 25, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST


    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    "The nacelles and most of the top half of the secondary hull is just gone, blown off, with thick black smoke billowing out every which way."<p>How do you get billowing black smoke in the vacuum of outer space?

  • July 25, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST


    by skimn

    Doing the mind-meld on Kirk's cock.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:56 p.m. CST



    I was wondering the same thing! I guess it's special gravametric radion smoke or some other bullshit technobabble.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    TheGhostWhoLurks and Captain Rightwing

    by Balcony Fool

    How do you disassemble a human into atoms, shoot them across space and reassemble them as leaving beings? How does every race of creature in the universe speak American English? How do you travel through time?<P> Probably some bullshit technobabbble.<P>

  • July 25, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    TheGhost. . .; Cap' RW; Balcony Fool, others . . .

    by WX1

    <b>Abrams can't PAY you guys enough to do the commentary on the DVD version; you guys got me suppressing laughs in this hea office (hey, it's Friday -- who the hell AIN'T doing searches in their cubicle?)</P> <P>Describe the Enterprise -- yeah. THAT mothaf*&ka' probably needs oil, too; mega TONS of the $#!&. Dilithium f*&kin' crystals, warp drive or not, that m&^thaf(*ka' would STILL need a full tank. Nice to see we've managed to find some gasolines in the future.</p>

  • July 25, 2008, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Damit Jim, I'm a doctor not a bootlegger

    by g-ride9000

    Son, you need a phone with a video camera.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Balcony Fool


    Well, at least you live up to you're handle. There is no real way smoke from fire could exist in the vacuum of space. You don't need to be a fucking scientist to figure that out.<p>

  • July 25, 2008, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Captain Rightwing

    by Balcony Fool

    Um, yeah, exactly. Star Trek is a fantasy, not an accurate depiction of the real universe. You've got people "beaming" across space and time, and you're annoyed because smoke can't exist in space? Seriously?<P> Kudos on racing to the bottom of the dialogue barrel, though. You're cool, and people respect you.<P>

  • July 25, 2008, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Enterprise Description

    by Geekgasm

    He said it looked like the TMP movie era Enterprise didn't he? The JJ Abrams revisionist Enterprise - whoopteeshit.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    I grew up on Trek

    by skydemon

    I'm 40 something, and I can't wait to see this re-casted, re-booted Star Trek. Trek movies after TWOK sucked in my opinion. Trek 5 was unwatchable it was so bad. I would love to see Trek successfully reboot and shed the poor reputation it earned itself in it's latter years. I hope this new movie lives up to the hype.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by Ommadawn1959

    Wow. Can't wait to see that "frist" torpedo rock the Enterprise "birdge." Sounds geart.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:33 p.m. CST


    by Ommadawn1959

    No cadets were sprawled on the floor. This is not a building, it is a ship, a wessel. Those cadets were sprawled all over the deck. I'm sorry. It needed saying. You're a journalist, man.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Just wating for the lines..

    by s0l

    Capt. (Simon Pegg) "we can use this anomaly to get there faster" Science officer "Capt. that may pose a danger to the ship" Simon Pegg: "What? You never taken a short cut before!"

  • July 25, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST

    I just hope the ship isn't gray.

    by Ommadawn1959

    Seriously. Look at the two series and the early movies. The Enterprise is white. Or off-white. Well, whiteish. I like the funky new effects of the "remastered" TOS episodes, but it saddens me that they made the starship gray, which makes no sense. Battleships and the like are gray as camoflouge in the ocean. The ocean. Enterprise is in space, and is white for increased visibility, since its primary mission is peaceful exploration, not war.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:58 p.m. CST

    we need a faster, more intense

    by kamar

    version of trek. but keep the impending feeling of dread & doom that wrath of khan & first contact had ... and no more stories about aliens that are into plastic surgery.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Being overly secretive about a tentpole movie

    by King Psyz

    Usually means something stinks more than old Jarlsberg

  • July 25, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Balcony Fool


    Apparently you didn't get the Abrams memo going around that tells everyone MY STAR TREK IS REAL!<p> Well BF, I'm just going by what I've heard. J.J. wants his trek to be realistic. If that were the case he, you would think, would adhere to the most important aspect of life in space, there is no fucking air!<p> Is that too taxing for you BF? Can you wrap your already sorry excuse for an intellect around the idea that while Star Trek may have fantastic futuristic elements in it, it was always meant to be taken seriously. In fact if you use your masterful typing skills and look around once and a while you may find that we are coming closer and closer to ST tech and that your cell phone was, at one time, considered fantastic until a designer, who no doubt was a fan of Trek made the personal communication device possible.<p> I'm sorry Balcony Fool did I hurt you feelings? There, there, welcome to the horrid world of anonymous internet assholery.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    in defense of GOOD cgi

    by Ommadawn1959

    I hate bad CGI as much as the next guy. I mean c'mon. Look at Han's crappy-looking sidewise jiggle after Greedo "shoots first," or the dreadfully unconvincing Jabba add-on at the docking bay, in which the entire Greedo speech "even I get boarded sometimes, Greedo/Jabba" is repeated. What an exercise in self-flattery. "Look at me, everyone. I can save raw footage and out-takes for twenty years and then seamlessly fit them in the picture, wrecking the narrative flow and pissing on your geeky memories. Yippee. I predicted computer effects. I'm a genius. No, wait. I'm a homo." Anyway, back to my point. When CGI is done WELL, as in Iron Man, the Dark Knight, and (mostly) the Incredible Hulk, we never notice it. For every Hulk-use-police-car-halves-as-boxing-gloves scene we notice (though it was very well done and served the story faithfully), there may well be dozens of wonderful bits of CGI that we never ever suspect. Hence, CGI gets the bad rep. Wanna see brilliant, flawless, shocking use of computer graphics? watch "Irreversable." Keep your eye on that fire extinguisher. Now THAT'S some CG-frickin'-I, baby.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST



    You are correct. I assumed that because one conny would look like the TMP version the big E would as well.>p> Although everything that has come out about this 'new' Enterprise has suggested that it takes elements of both the original and TMP and mixes them.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    naked green girls with three belly buttons?

    by The Marquis de Side 3

    come on... you gotta bring THOSE back!

  • July 25, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Oh Captain, My Captain

    by Balcony Fool

    Nah, I rarely get *anything* from J.J. these days, let alone memos regarding Star Trek. (And he told me he loved me.)<P> You've really got yourself worked into a lather over there, haven't you? At any rate, you're talking yourself in circles. Feel free to take the *themes* of Star Trek as seriously as you like, but the science of Trek has always been very, very silly. You can pick and choose the things that annoy you, of course, but don't act like those particular elements are somehow more ridiculous than, say, time travel. You'll embarrass yourself.<P> Thanks for complimenting my typing skills, though.

  • Whuh? Yes it can. Smoke is basically just ash, little particles of stuff (usually a lot of carbon) that's a byproduct of combustion. There's no reason you can't have it in space if something burned. And yes believe it or not you can burn something in space if you have an oxidizer. The shuttle's OMS burn oxidized nitrogen tetroxide every time it goes up. That's fire in space. There's been fires on the International Space Station. It just probably wouldn't last very long unless you continued feeding it oxygen.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by adambalm

    Correction, apparently there was smoke on the International Space Station but no fire.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Re: Smoke in space

    by DrFyzziks

    Er, yes. Smoke can exist in space. It might not billow per se (as that would require convection currents in an atmosphere), but it could certainly disperse from a central point. Assuming we're talking carbon ash, resultant from the burning of an object, you'd need an atmosphere in which to burn. Hey, there's a big ship here, all cut open, probably with lots of pressurized gas vents (y'know, piping all that great OXYGEN around the ship so the crew can breathe). Seems like a good source of combustion to me. Or, it could be some other gaseous material and there's no burning involved at all... As for the billowing - well, as I said you'd need convection currents in an atmosphere for proper billowing. But assuming it *is* venting gas, you could get a nice billow effect as a result of it exiting a pressurized tube at high velocity. Or, it could just all be a movie and not real. Naaaah. That's unlikely. And yes, I do have a degree in Physics. Thanks. :)

  • July 25, 2008, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by Dilox Esp

    See the latest article (More Star Trek Footage Described Online.) at TrakMovie . com. WOW!!!

  • July 25, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Cloverfeild monster is supposed to be awe-inspiring?!

    by TallBoy66

    Yeah, uh, no.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:05 p.m. CST

    I hope Bana's ship...

    by xavier masterson

    is actually called The Sunflower.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST


    by Geekgasm

    if they're both ships of the Constitution class they will have to look substantially the same.

  • July 26, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST


    by Issi

    Can we see this footage?

  • July 26, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Forget smoke, we're never even going to have starships...

    by BurnHollywood

    Read Kurzweil or Tipler...the entire universe is going to be "settled" by sublight Von Neumann machines the size of beer cans, in the name of the continually expanding computer mind that eventually replaces humanity...<p> Either that, or the Andorians are going to travel back in time, kill Abe Lincoln, and the nuclear war between the Confederates and the Nazis will exterminate humanity. Bleak future, man.

  • July 26, 2008, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Okay, gents....


    DrFyzziks, Good thing you have a physics degree because you can’t spell or punctuate worth shit.<p> I find it interesting that TheGhostWhoLurks brings up one nit and I make a little joke then all these arm chair physicists come out of the wood work. It’s a damn good thing you fuck heads aren’t technical advisers in Hollywood; we’d be hip deep in fiery explosions in space and sound in space and….Oh, right. So Fyzz how’s Hollywood treating ya?<p> I will give you this; there could be a dark mist from particulates. But It wouldn’t billow it would spray or project out. adambalm, what is the oxidizer what is feeding it to make it burn? It’s not apparent therefore, it’s a valid nit. The triangle of burning, Heat, Oxygen and fuel. If any one is missing then it cannot burn. Space is absolute zero cold, the only way you can have a fire on the space station is if it’s inside within the contained oxygenated area. And as far as the shuttle, those are provided inside the burning chamber of the rocket. But to arbitrarily have something burning in open space is absurd, because there is no oxygen source and there is no heat. As a matter of fact absolute zero, no heat. Good luck burning. Without the air and air pressure around it it cannot billow. And saying It’s just a movie therefore we should shut our brains off is a fucking cop out. The whole point of Science fiction as a medium is to create discussion about science fact. And thus, the discussion were having now.<p> Balcony Fool, I am in a lather and it's quite sunderific! So what if I nitpicked Dickhead? Why do you give a shit? Does riding Abrams joy stick make you feel entitled to defend his honor? It’s not like there’s a whole hell of a lot to discuss but some vague rambling from Mr. AtoZ. That may or may not be true. You want to dismiss Trek as a silly fantasy I won't dissuade you. But, you may want to tell that to the countless scientists and physicists who were inspired by trek and who, in some cases, have made it their life’s work to recreate treks silly technology. But then again you’re too busy being a smug tool on AICN to converse with a real fucking physicist. I guess you’ll just have to make due with adambalm and Fyzz.<p> Oh, Balcony Fool, Abrams also says he loves me more and you forgot your condoms and lube in his bedroom. I must say I’m impressed by your practice of safe sex. Good for you!

  • July 26, 2008, 2:09 a.m. CST


    by _SnakePlissken_

    bring back the shat

  • July 26, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Captain Rightwing..

    by Lemming

    everything you just questioned was ACTUALLY SPELLED OUT by Mr. Physicist. Learn to Read. And I'm pretty sure that 'fire triangle' is bollocks. when was the last time you checked any of this stuff? The 50's? Just incase you missed it AGAIN: The Oxygen is present from whatever compressed source is on board the ship itself. THAT could be burning being the source itself. Oh and you would get 'billowing' if the wreck was moving re: inertia, but that would only appear to be billowing.

  • July 26, 2008, 3:32 a.m. CST

    M-O-O-N. That spells "Live long and prosper"

    by Tom Cullen

    I still don't know what to think about this project, but hell, it's not like Trek has ever had a perfect or consistent run as far as overall quality goes, so even if this turns out to be nothing other than a failed curiosity, it's not like it can really damage the pop culture behemoth that is Star Trek at this point. And who knows, maybe it'll even be fun. We'll see.<p>M-O-O-N. That spells Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!!!!

  • July 26, 2008, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Out there...

    by kwisatzhaderach


  • July 26, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Add to Friends:

    by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch

    Have you ever seen Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

  • July 26, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Plane crash in Final Destination memorable?

    by Drath

    Hmm, okay....see I saw a plane blow up in Scrooged, so I wasn't exactly in awe of Final Destination's visual, even after 9/11. So maybe being less than 20 or 15 really helps with being impressed by how "new" this footage is. I maintain anyone who knows Trek will see this stuff and say "yeah, it's not new, but glad to see it again." Just that people were saying that they never had a concept that the Enterprise was a huge ship but we mostly saw the Bridge is laughable. This isn't like on Dr. Who where you only see one small part of the TARDIS. We see lots of other parts of the Enterprise. But you have to have watched Trek to know that, and probably been alive before Next Gen started to have any concept of it. I hope this impresses the younglings enough to make many dead presidents for the pair of mounts and that bitch Viacom.

  • July 26, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    was there sound in space?

    by ironic_name

    I hope not. <P> Add to Friends, the smoke is from air leaking out.

  • July 26, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    CAPTAIN RIGHTWING is gonna have a massive coronary

    by ironic_name


  • July 26, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    We know they're models how?

    by u.k. star

    Seriously, I may have missed something. Have we been told that they are using purely models or is it just that someone thinks they look "TOO GOOD" to be CGI. I personally have no problem with good CGI. Bad models / puppets or anything else are no better than bad CGI.

  • July 26, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    trekkies, the lowest form of life

    by ironic_name

  • July 26, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST


    by j2talk

  • July 26, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Thank GOD

    by j2talk

    JJ isnt giving out all the details.....The Relaunch of StarTrek should come out and Blindside people with how good it is (crossing fingers) rather then have every little bit scutinized by people BEFORE the thing is finished.....So far things sound Promising- especially if they continue to keep Shatner away for the thing

  • July 26, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Written by a Five Year Old

    by Mutley26

    Seriously, if shit like this has become acceptable prose, then Jebus fucking save me.

  • July 26, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I bet that's the Gabe Koerner ship

    by victor82

    People fall for that trick all the time. For the last time, the Gabe design is NOT THE MOVIE "E". The only thing JJ did was steal the design for the cowlings on the nacelles from Gabe. I would hope that Gabe is getting a royalty for this, or at least acknowledgement in the design (these are now universally called "the Gabe Cowlings" by fans). BTW, does Shia get it up the ass in this film? Oh wait, that was Indy IV! This is Kirk/Spock slash fiction...

  • July 27, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Wonder if it's Sunfiyah, as in the Romulan Ship

    by msspurlock

    That would explain it looking Vulcan.

  • July 27, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Not real

    by Mr. Rockit is reporting that, according to their two sources, these scenes aren't in the movie.

  • July 27, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    It's a F-A-A-K-E!

    by randie1313

    Trekmovie has checked their sources and declared Mr. ATOZ a fake. They haven't been wrong yet, so that settles it.

  • July 27, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Star Trek will bomb...

    by TheDoctor73

    Delayed from Christmas release. No footage at Comicon (come on, Trek was there last year). Dumped into the Mother's Day weekend slot (that's summer movie death). If you don't want to show anything now, considering it was originally going to be released in 5 months from now, then the movie isn't that great and you know it.

  • July 27, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Thundercats73, Industry Expert

    by randie1313

    Stop trying to sound smart, cause you don't know shit.