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PUNISHER WAR ZONE Comic Con Clip Is Online thanks to IGN!

Hey folks, Harry here with the Comic Con clip for PUNISHER WAR ZONE - really don't like the music, really think the junky scratches and print abuse looks like shit (done so much better for GRINDHOUSE) - but this looks pretty goddamn badass, eh? Enter your birthdate and enjoy! The below clip is thanks to Geek #3 from Movies.IGN.Com

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  • July 25, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Looking Better

    by PrincessLeias_Poohole

    My be interested

  • July 25, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST


    by DishyDish

    for taking the kids to I think. Right up there with Bambi.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Looks just like the awful script I read

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    also, surprised they showed off Jigsaw so early.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    oh man

    by kgerm

    okay. i shouldn't have doubted lexi.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    First idiot to say the Jane version looks better....

    by IndustryKiller!

    gets a chair leg through the face. This looks exactly like a Punisher movie should look. Violent and cool. With an excellent actor playing the Punisher to boot. and with a grotesque looking Jigsaw. You can tell the budget for this wasn't massive, but its almost better that way. No slight to Thomas jane, who's a good actor, but that film was terrible.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:37 a.m. CST

    oh cutting edge

    by bacci40

    jigsaw terrorizing a little kid...frank punchin a hole into a guys face...but its all pretty pictures and they are staying far away from showing us any dialogue...flashback to the lundgren punisher, when everytime he or another character opened their mouths, you wanted to bust out laughing...this franchise will die at the end of this movie...kills me, cuz pullo deserves better

  • July 25, 2008, 3:38 a.m. CST


    by David Cloverfield

    I liked Thomas Jane's but this looks fun as hell. I just hope it'll have some dark humor and an obviously psychotic Frank Castle.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Maybe this film will be better, but Jane NAILED the character of The Punisher. He should've been brought back in a better film, damnit.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST


    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    Should have been half the length, or you know, an actual scene.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST


    by Marsellus

    Titus is back, this time with big guns. Yeah.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST


    by ragingdrunklove

    looks awful. straight to video movies that are just nothing but gore are fine but if im going to shell out 10.50 i want more than a fat dude's head exploding.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST


    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    hope they didn't cut that bit.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!...go ahead, call me an idiot

    by bacci40

    ya, the jane punisher was messed up cuz the makers decided they could do what they wanted with the ennis story arc...but frank shooting off a machine gun in a ballet like scene? do we really want to go back to the 80s punisher and his violence for violence sake, without the ennis humor and absurdity? i am sure the 17-30 male crowd will love this film...and no one said that lexi couldnt direct action....she just cant direct anything else

  • July 25, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Jane version looks better....

    by UMAGA

    Holy shit, what a terrible song.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    This footage alone looks better than every other

    by Cannabis Holocaust

    attempt at bringing The Punisher into cinema. I think there's a chance it won't disappoint.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Punisher will never be brought to the screen well.

    by Redfive!

    This does have promise,but even so,The Punisher NEEDS to stay in the comics because it just looks like another action film,nothing special.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST

    He's finally punishing

    by _SnakePlissken_

    unlike the first lame shit, living with misfits and helping them, what the fuck was that..The Punisher use to use power drills on pedophile's faces

  • July 25, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST

    kevin smith news

    by bacci40

    no, he hasnt lost weight...dc doesnt care about deadlines again and is bringing him back for a 3 issue batman mini....woopee

  • July 25, 2008, 4 a.m. CST ennis' first story arc

    by bacci40

    and you will understand...he sort of turned the punisher into a modern day spirit...a working class hero...the movie fucked it up

  • July 25, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    When Ennis does his stories they're good, but when anyone else

    by IndustryKiller!

    does you get the last Punisher film, which was a fucking atrocity. Watered downs hit from start to finish and betrayed the comic in every way. Just because the story they used for a template worked doesn't mean the movie did. this looks MUCH better than that. The action, for the first time in the series, looks fucking bad ass. And you can worry about the dialogue all you want but Ray Stevenson is the best actor to ever play the role, so i've got faith in the guy.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    No, it's produced by Lions Gate not Marvel

    by Cannabis Holocaust

    I wouldn't have minded seeing Nick Fury show up and recruit Frank Castle for some S.H.I.E.L.D. missions. I guess Marvel doesn't WANT the Punisher, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, etc. rights back? If they got Hulk back, I don't see why they can't get those.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:18 a.m. CST

    The Amazing G it doesnt seem so

    by bacci40

    so if you were hoping that tony stark would show up after the credits, telling frank about the hero initiative, and then frank blasts him right between the are gonna be dissapointed

  • July 25, 2008, 4:19 a.m. CST

    exploitation bliss

    by meximedia

    Let's be honest, the Punisher is basically a vigilante story on steroids. What more can you ask for: Pullo and McNulty from Rome and The Wire; and this footage looks like an exploitation vigilante movie from the 70's. It can't be any worse than John Travolta hamming it up.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!...they didnt do ennis

    by bacci40

    they took bits and pieces from the the first arc...then to make the movie "cost effective" (horseshit, they just wanted to bang cuban chicks during their off hours) they moved everything to florida...what the fuck is frank doing in florida? what the fuck is a tenament apt building doing in the middle of nowhere in the middle of miami?? then they cast travolta, who thought he was in a cross between hairspray and battlefield earth...they removed much of the ennis storyline cuz they thought it would come off as absurd, but left in the russian..and then they wasted almost half the film on the origin story...something that couldve been done in 5 minutes plus flashbacks...which seems like they are doing here....what did they prove? that if you dont respect and/or trust the source get shit...and i trust jane...he read the script and walked away...the man is a geek god...if anyone knows a bad comic book story, its him

  • July 25, 2008, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Oh i know bacci, and the film was horrible for it

    by IndustryKiller!

    Believe me I know how htey "adapted" Enniss story. And that's what im saying, that film was utter garbage. i think Jane was up for it, but he got stuck in a shit film. Kinda like Brosnan in those Bond movies. What Im saying is this looks like the real deal, and Stevenson, like Jane, is a great actor, so I think that aspect of it will live up as well.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST

    after watching it twice in a row...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    it actually looks pretty fun. The music doesn't bother me as much the second time and I disagree: the Grindhouse-y look to it is pretty cool, but other talkbackers are right, with no dialogue, we have no idea whether it will actually be good or not...

  • July 25, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    this looks shit

    by Mr_X

    punisher will never translate to the cinema well. this looks like a 2 hour firefight and not very interesting. which fuck decided on the atrocious song for the trailer?

  • July 25, 2008, 4:52 a.m. CST

    This better be rated NC-17!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Otherwise I'm not interested.

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  • July 25, 2008, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Well one thing i can say..

    by Stalkeye

    is that the new trailer alone looks better than Tom Jane's version, let alone more faithful to the comic's mythos.Atleast this new pun won't be setting up fake hydrants,setting cars on fire in the form of a skull and not to mention it won't be set in florida. this is more grittier and gorier than both punisher movies. now it looks worth seeing and did i see a glimpse of microchip?!?

  • July 25, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Where's the skull?

    by Noisybast

    Looks like a remake of the Dolph Lundgren version.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!...i love stevenson...dont get me wrong

    by bacci40

    but theres a reason why you only see the action scenes here and no dialogue, like in the first trailer...ray seems to be fighting his accent...i love that guys voice but like mckidd, it seems he has a hard time mastering the american accent...and it also seems that they gave him some ennis lines to say, but totally out of context...if the movie is a hit, ill be happy for him

  • July 25, 2008, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Oh and the song is shitty..

    by Stalkeye

    It sounds like that hick hack Kid Rock. where's Drowning Pool's "Bodies" song when you need it?

  • July 25, 2008, 5:06 a.m. CST

    If there's no skull I just don't care

    by mothandrust

    Too right Noisybast. Without the skull emblem beneath the jacket, it's just an angry guy with guns. I like's me an icon goddamit. Where's the skull!

  • July 25, 2008, 5:13 a.m. CST

    LOL...all the haters of the teaser change their tune?

    by Quartermass-87

    Weird, everyone hated on the teaser...which is odd cause it a TEASER...and should tease now show all. Now they see more and think..hmm maybe we should pull the sticks outta our fanboy asses and give it a chance. I mean damn it a movie...have some ain't high art...and the comic ain't a bible...its all to enjoy...better this than all the other crap out there. And as for the song...well it a trailer people..think of it like this...Julie Benz is in this movie and if she came to my house and offered to strip for me I wouldn't care what song played while she did being...its a song to show the clip to....thats down....geez.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:15 a.m. CST

    all apologies for my shit typing...pissing typing is shitty typi

    by Quartermass-87

  • July 25, 2008, 5:15 a.m. CST

    pissy typing that is....and I'm done.

    by Quartermass-87

  • July 25, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Well, the upside down gun spinning still sucks.

    by Stalkeye

    Oh and Quartermass-87, now that we have seen more of what this movie is about, of course some are gonna have second thougts, but they gotta show the skull, that's like having bats without the bat. Get it?

  • July 25, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Already looks better than the sorry-ass 2004 version

    by Steve Rogers

    I like Tom Jane as much as the next guy, but he was miscast in that picture and Hensleigh totally dropped the ball.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    frank shooting the shit out of everything with a machine gun

    by bacci40

    is not works with rambo, cuz that character is all about destruction...but frank is supposed to be calculating and meticulous...watched again and it looks like a very cool vid game...nothing more...but enjoy it boys, cuz im gonna download

  • July 25, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST


    by judge dredds fresh undies

    The punisher is here to bring the pain, CHOCOLATE RAIN! Worst music. Ever.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Wish it was Marvel

    by Captain RawBeard

    This trailer has peaked my interest in the film now. The first teaser was terrible and disowned by the Director if I am not mistaken. <br> <br> I wish it was Marvel and not Lionsgate releasing the film, as I was hoping for some more crossovers... maybe from Nick Fury. <br> <br> Also Marvel should restart the Spider-Man movies base it on the Ultimate version so Sony can keep the Emo Maguire films.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    one question girls

    by ominus

    if jane knows when a script is bad,then why the fuck he chosed to play the punisher in the first movie,with its turd for a story?

  • July 25, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    The wait for the true PUNISHER


    I think we have to wait a bit longer for a TRUE punisher film.... i mean, Batman just got sweet... i want a darker punisher... rain falling, quietly waiting to unload an assload of gunpowder.. no ROCK music.... he should look and feel like he's just crawled out of a carton of marlboros. Then just .....kill.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:03 a.m. CST

    admirable attempt but too stylized

    by messi

    Ennis' Max run proved the more ultra real and gritty you make it, the better. last year some idiot was campaigning that it should be filmed like sin city and over the top. he's still an idiot.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Even if this movie is good..

    by wowsah156

    both trailers we have had so far make this Punisher movie look childish and video gamey. This trailer isnt a good advert for the movie. It looks like a sequel to "Shoot Them Up. Not the Punisher. Not sold on it.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:25 a.m. CST

    by ominus

    the punisher film with jane,was filmed as a western. thats what ruined it.blame the director,blem the script writer,blame the producer.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:25 a.m. CST

    More exploding heads than Scanners

    by kafka07

    it's got that going for it, I guess.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:43 a.m. CST

    He does have the skull...

    by CreatureCantina

    You just can't see it because the trailer here is tiny. I just gotta wonder if this is every death in the entire film. Cuz it sure seems like it.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Lexi Hearts Gore

    by DOGSOUP

    That HAS to count for something

  • July 25, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST

    New trailer here:

    by chuffsterUK

  • July 25, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    I almost pity this film and its makers

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I don't get the impression anyone cares. I know I don't. And that's not to say Punisher isn't cool--he is.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    shove a chair leg through your face

    by Shigeru

    should be the new AICN catchphrase. <br>Also you know something's bad when it's ripping off the Boondock Saints stupid upside down spinning shooting thing

  • July 25, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    I like

    by viranth

    looks like they went "rambo" with the gore in that movie. Will be fun anyway.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    The music is an embarrassment...

    by GrubStreeter

    but the footage looks cool enough.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Looks like the MAX Comics

    by MariusXe

    Say what you want, but this looks a lot like the MAX Line of Punisher Comics and I love that. Fuck the song, fuck the girl who directs. This trailer shows me Titus Pull in total badassery killing some guy with a chair!!! Honestly, they got me by the time you see the big mafia mansion from the outside and Castle walking through the forest. Exactly like they showed it in the early MAX Issues. No, this won't be as fantastic as the dark knight, but I don't need it to be. All I want is a dark Punisher movie with load of action and gore, and it looks like thats what I'm going to get. YEEEEHAW

  • July 25, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Better then the 1st one

    by MrPopular

    Yes Thomas Jane rocks... But his Punisher was the most pussy Punisher i've ever seen. At least this Puisher will kick ass & take names

  • July 25, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Trailer Music

    by ForkTongue

    I couldn't agree more. That music is terrible.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Looks better, but still gets a lot wrong

    by Laserhead

    Frank Castle doesn't weep at his family's graves.<p>Frank Castle doesn't hang upside down from chandeliers while spinning with two-guns on auto-fire.<p>That said, they got the 'turning-people's-faces-into-paint' part right. Still wish they would just ADAPT one of Ennis's MAX storylines. Preferably 'The Slavers'.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Thomas Jane's Punisher

    by David Cloverfield

    had a few things going for it. The family massacre (batshit insane, every last uncle gunned down.) Comicbook hitmen (The russian guy, the Cash lookalike) Jane himself, and how he ruins Travolta's shit by the end (killing the family, the firends, dragging him, shooting him, setting him on fire, etc.) It wasn't that bad.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Dont like the look or music but nice violence...

    by Russman

    however they shouldn't have put this online. It looks like one of the thousands of cheesy 80s action flics with the synthisizer soundtrack.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Thomas Jane is very cool

    by Laserhead

    But his Punisher was the biggest pussy in the world.<p>Watch him move fire hydrants to sow distrust in his enemy's marriage!<p>Thrill to his overlong 'showdown' with two lobby security guards!<p>Marvel at how he lets a hitman play him a song, tell him he's going to kill him, walk away-- and then almost get taken out by the guy!<p>Jane's Punisher was an unintentional comedy.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by Dreamseller

    Looks like it needs a chick to make a great and violent Action-Movie.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    still cant get past

    by palewook

    him hanging upside down and twirling around. that scene needs to be cut. it's not the matrix, it's the punisher.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Take the kids. -- Looks like a great family film.

    by JDanielP

    Maybe we will make it a double feature, with WALL-E. Hmmmmmm... But I wonder which flick has more dialog.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    On the Spike trailer

    by sundancekeed

    you can clearly see he's wearing the skull. Looks violent, eh? Like a Punisher comic. What's not to like?

  • July 25, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Wow, thats is a lot of exploding heads there..

    by Ironmuskrat

    Not sure how good of a Punisher movie this will be, Frank seems a bit superhuman in the clip with the spinning upside down while shooting move and what looks him punching a hole in someones face(not taking about the chair scene either). <p> I don't understand the seeming reluctance to adapt of any of Ennis Punisher stories fully, perhaps a little too gritting and real for what Hollywood see as a comic action hero. <p> It is encouraging to see Hollywood at least try and start to pull itself from PG-13 purgatory and start making some good old fashion blood and guts action movies.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    mr saxon

    by palewook

    how much are you being paid per hour to viral market this movie on forums?

  • July 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    I wish the Punisher...

    by Rick Flemming

    Would kill my ex-wife... NO! Just kiddin' folks.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Is The Question...

    by RockyG

    ...true, false, or multiple choice.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    That is one terrible piece of music

    by Arteska

    The images deserve much better.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Worst music ever

    by lost.rules.

    Just seems like this is being marketed to the 12-year-olds who actually listen to that angst metal.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    They could have done this aesthetic shift...

    by NiceGuyEddie19

    And still kept Tom Jane. I understand Jane didn't like the shift, but the rather quick change of male leads is offputting.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    How Many Heads...

    by Crow3711

    Can one man possibly expode, implode, sever, or stab in 2 minutes? Seriously, there are other body parts to consider. And that music....try harder.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    The music sounds like some Barry De Vorzon track

    by SpencerTrilby

    a nod to Lundgren's '89 flick?

  • July 25, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Music sucks!

    by donkingkong

    Whats's wrong with some Stooges or something man? Anyway the actual footage looks killer enough.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    All the bits they had to cut, to avoid NC17

    by V'Shael

    were in that trailer. And pretty much nothing else. Talk about ULTRA-violence. <p> And yet, middle America loses its fucking mind, if Janet Jackson's boob appears for 0.1 seconds.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Harry Heck Returns

    by NiceGuyEddie19

    Would have been better.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    jigsaw looks terrible.

    by jason baum

    almost laughable.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    HAH! Well, it's ONE STEP BACK for Marvel again....

    by Brians Life

    ...DAMMIT! <br><br>Seriously, the looks like shit. It looked cheap and Jigsaw DOES NOT look good. <br><br>Also, for those of you saying that STEVENSON is the best to play The Punisher so far...some one should tell that to his voice and face cuz they haven't heard yet.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Watch the trailer while listening to music from Branson, Missour

    by JDanielP

    Just be sure to avoid any music that doesn't include a banjo.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    a lot of people ready to hate

    by SpawnofAchilles

    this, come on they were playing to the comic con crowd so they gave em what they wanted and what the character is largely about, badass visceral violence, and I think that at least looks pretty sweet, as for the rest, we'll see but it has to be better then the Jane one, wasnt that pg-13???? INSTAFAIL They obviously corrected that here which is a blessing in its own right...he has the skull but it's toned down which makes sense since you dont see many special forces commandoes sneaking through the dark making hits with giant white targets on their chests...cause you know that makes all kinds of sense in the "real" world

  • July 25, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST


    by DennisMM

    Looks like they decided to go the Ennis route visually this time but don't seem to have any idea what Ennis's stories actually are like. But with no dialogue, it's hard to tell.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Screw this "scene" and watch the new TRAILER...

    by Brians Life looks like this thing should go direct to video.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by Elemeno Pee

    Metal playing loudly, ridiculous non-stop violence.... If you're going to tackle something as cliche a concept as Punisher, make it unique!

  • July 25, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Looks Like a Real Punisher Film

    by Baron Merlot

    I've never been a fan of the Punisher, but this looks like what a Punisher film should be. The man is a violent psychopath and it shows in this trailer. I wont see it, way too violent for my tastes, but it looks good.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    This has nothing to do with the movie

    by tj donkey show

  • July 25, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    ~~~~~What? No soundtrack from Prince?~~~~~

    by The Marquis de Side 3

    this is the future and IT WILL BE! =0) seriously gay trailer here folks...

  • July 25, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I like Ray Stevenson so much

    by One Nation Under Zod

    So I will give this a chance. If it succeeeds in being at least a watchable, cheesy piece of stylized, explotation-type action film, I'll take it and smile. Anyone who thinks this character has a meaningful arc or real depth is a fool. This should be a revenge film, plain and simple. If they go over the toip, so be it. As long as it works. Hell, if it's as good as the movie "Over The Top", I'll be happy.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I'm in

    by andrew coleman

    Stevenson looks sweet and during the Oscar season this might just make me laugh my ass off. So I am in.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Lionsgate might as well by the rights to COMMANDO

    by ABking

    Since Lionsgate loves action films and action stars, they should purchase the COMMANDO (Schwarzenegger) rights from Fox and make a bad ass sequel with older John Matrix Arnie.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    This has nothing to do with the movie

    by tj donkey show

    My favorite portrayal of The Punisher has to be during Civil War. I liked the fact that Cap's faction was so desperate that they would allow a psyco like Frank in the group. And when it was all said done Frank couldn't keep the monster in check. Would've liked to have seen The Punisher take out a first tier vilain like Venom or Taskmaster.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    The Music

    by Mr Chuff

    Why does every movie like this have to have a metal song on the trailer? Dont get me wrong... I have many "metal" cd's in my collection and have been in to that kinda stuff since I was christ knows how young but not EVERYONE likes it...find something that has some balls. And NOT the fucking Requiem For a Dream theme AGAIN!

  • July 25, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Based on that trailer... I'm in for sure

    by Stuntcock Mike

    The last one was a travesty

  • July 25, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Waiiiit a second. Julie Benz is in this? Sold.

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • July 25, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Thomas Jane apologists:

    by fanboy71

    Please shut up! Jane's Punisher was the Punisher in name only. I like Jane in many things, but his Punisher was a total pussy. Just because Jane didn't like the script to this one (maybe it was too bad ass for him... maybe he wanted Frank to seek psychiatric help and get cured.. who knows) should not hold weight, because he signed on to the first turd, which means he had ZERO idea about who the Punisher was or how he should be portrayed. I have been a Punisher fan since the first Mini series in the 80's, and to me, the real Punisher should be a big mean MF who you would be scraed of if he were walking down the street. Sure, there are a couple hokey things in this trailer (upside down chandelliere shooting, for one), but it looks a MILLION times better than that last piece of shit starring Thomas "Sensitivity" Jane and John "I'm too cool for this" Travolta. And I'm hoping that there are scenes of Frank grieving his family, and waking up from nightmares about their deaths... it IS part of the character. Good job Lexi!

  • July 25, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Fuck Yeah!! Double Feature Rambo and Punisher!!!!

    by picardsucks

    2nd amendment fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • July 25, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    TJ Donkey Show

    by messi

    you seriously think that portrayal in Civil War is better than say 'The Slavers'? Which is the closest you'd get to a Cormac McCarthy written comic book.

  • July 25, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by Laserhead

    I totally agree. That's what I said when I heard he'd dropped out. He didn't like the script, but he approved the script of the first one?!?<p>From what Marvel said at ComicCon, it actually sounds like they didn't want him back.

  • July 25, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Punisher in Civil War was retarded

    by Laserhead

    A middle-aged, non-powered man is going to be better at breaking into the Baxter Building than all the ninjas, wall-crawlers, and other super-powered badasses on the team? Retarded.

  • July 25, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Titus Pullo vs. Jimmy McNulty

    by Liberty Valance

    Think I'll stay home and re-watch Rome and The Wire instead.

  • July 25, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST


    by Aiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee!!!

    Why does this movie look so bad to you people because it has no dialogue? when the last Rambo flick trailer came out I remember it having no dialogue as well and gun action all over the place and it ended up being a great azz movie..... So stop judging till you see it, please

  • July 25, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    What's that song?

    by TheSecondQuest

    Anyone know the band/artist? It sounds like it'd be right at home on the soundtrack for the last movie (which was, IMO, one of the better movie soundtracks as far as rock/metal/techno genres go, ala Mortal Kombat, Daredevil, etc).

  • July 25, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Q:Define "Craptacular"

    by Bayouwolf

  • July 25, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    A: This cheesy POS

    by Bayouwolf

  • July 25, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Looks Bad Ass to Me

    by Slippy

    A pissed off Punisher that just maimes and destroys bad guys. This preview was fantastic. Finally, a pissed off Punisher that just maims and destroys bad guys. This preview was fantastic. Looks like they went to the new Rambo for motivation.

  • July 25, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Looks WAY better than Jane's PUNISHER!

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    No Castle family reunions in sunny Florida, or Frank working undercover for the DEA as an effeminate dealer! Just loud, nasty killings set to a heavy rock beat. THAT'S The Punisher... A Rambo movie set in the URBAN jungle!<p>Plus, Stevenson LOOKS like someone who would gouge your eyes out without even thinking. Thomas Jane looked WAY too soft to play a convincing Frank Castle. I literally laughed during 80% of his Punisher movie, and I don't even follow the character that much. Not good.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    It also looks like a nice throwback to 80's action movies

    by Slippy

    If Frank will break a few arms at the elbow, push his thumbs through some baddies eyeballs, and takes out 500 bad guys’ ala Commando, this movie will have me in the theatre at least 3 times.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Music bad / Stevenson and feel good

    by Arteska

    It looks and feels better than fine but the music for the clip was poorly chosen and ill conceived as what was needed to sell it. A quick fix would be easy and smart.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Jane's PUNISHER

    by Mosquito March

    What the filmmakers and a lot of talkbackers don't understand about Jane's PUNISHER film is that Frank Castle was fucking nuts BEFORE his family was killed. He was already dehumanized by the war, and his family was his chance at getting back to normal. Buy casting Frank Castle as a good-looking, wacky-disguise-wearing, all-American FBI agent with no problems, the real psychology of the character is completely thrown out the window. This guy already had the monster in him.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Couldn't get through it...

    by stalfos

    That music is just too horrible, and really sends the wrong kind of vibe about this movie.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    @ Bayouwolf

    by Bob Samonkey

    But I like cheese. Though I have never had one in the shape of a POS...

  • July 25, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Cheese is great if carved into the shape of a hand grenade

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Nice texture

  • July 25, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I looked over at Dolph Lundgren...

    by havocSchultz

    and he was making cheese between his thighs...

  • July 25, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    was this a trailer or music video ?

    by Faust_8

    great, we've just seen every scene of violence from the whole movie. Why watch the movie now ?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by Bass Bastardson

    Seriously, what is up with the weird turtle neck? Is he trying to look like Man At Arms? Also, why is every filmmaker afraid of the fucking skull logo? I know it's there, but it is so faint as to not even fucking count.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Yep, they nerfed his costume

    by DrManhattansUnit

    The coolest costume in comics, and they nerfed it. What's the point of that?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    @Havoc cheese

    by papal_Lazarou

    Man you guys is whack. Everyone nos dat Punisher is da shnizzel. It's da GORGONZOLA of da ceeze world.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Lou Gossett Jr likes a nice Brie Cheese generally

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Along with a crisp Chardonnay.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    I agree

    by Bob Samonkey

    a Cheese logo would have been more apropos...

  • July 25, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Wot about da cheeze strips.

    by papal_Lazarou

    Dem's Bo, Yo. You have one a dem in da hood and yooz trippin'

  • July 25, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Jane's fight with the Russian wasn't bad.

    by cookylamoo

    But everyone else was a whining wuss, including Travolta. Damn, where was the Travolta of Broken Arrow?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    I know

    by Bob Samonkey

    Ain't cheese cool?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Travolta really over did it on cheese/deli tray on the last Puni

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Ain't it Cheese News

  • July 25, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Ohhh how I like my cheeses...

    by BuckminsterOhare

    cheeeeese from around the world!

  • July 25, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Electric Boogaloo

    by Bayouwolf

    It's the cheedar, BABY!

  • July 25, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Cheesocalypse Now

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • July 25, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    Damn it all!

    by BuckminsterOhare


  • July 25, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Silly cheese brain

    by BuckminsterOhare

    I forgot about tiny urls.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    im not sure what people dont get

    by bacci40

    the punisher franchise was dead when ennis took it over....kevin smith killed it with his take on the "angel" frank...yea, it has over the top comedic violence, but if that were all it had, it would not have become a if you want to have a frank that hearkens back to the 80s punisher, so be it...but that punisher had no soul and only sold well thanks to fan boy culture and the hype machine...but it wasnt very interesting and i dare you to prove me guys can get down on jane all you want, but the fault of his film lies with the film makers not him, and he was hoping that the sequel would reflect more of ennis...when he got the script, and it did not, he walked...but not because frank wasnt all touch feely...not sure if he is allowed to talk about it, but those going to the meet and greet tomorrow nite can ask him...and im sorry, but even the 80s punisher wouldnt be caught dead doing ballet moves with a machine stop for lexi, a two girl lesbian show with diablo cody....BACK TO BACK....BACK TO BACK.....BACK TO BACK

  • July 25, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Punisher: Phalic Phinisher

    by Bayouwolf

    All your brie are belong to us

  • July 25, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST


    by frankenfickle

    that certainly is violent. mister punisher must be very upset at those other people!

  • July 25, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I appreciated the gratuitous violence

    by Super Rabbi

    Looks bloody, and I love it!

  • July 25, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Days of Vengance by Ramallah

    by gritter96

    The song is "Days Of Vengance" from Ramallah. Blood for Blood > Ramallah > you

  • July 25, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    "this is just the beginning"

    by juice willis

    man, i know fuck all about filmmaking, but the way that line is delivered sounds uber-retarded.

  • July 25, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Fuck, i missed the cheese

    by king_of_nowhere

  • July 25, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    by Bayouwolf

  • July 25, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    did that guy get a chair kicked thru his head?

    by TheDudeintheShadows

    fuck yea. at least this shyte movie will have good ole fashioned violence

  • July 25, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    @ TheDudeintheShadows

    by BuckminsterOhare

    That scene was the birth of Chairface Chippendale. Come one, come all! A years supply of string cheese to new members of the Zone.

  • July 25, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Night of the Fresh Gorgonzola

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Dear Lady, I beg you To cook as you please, But don’t overlook the Importance of cheese! As a casserole topping All bubbly and brown, It will make your fine cooking The talk of the town. As a spread for a sandwich Or a puffy soufflé It will help you to cope On your busiest day. Its tang and its flavor Will tempt and will tease; ‘Most all of your dishes Can be sharpened with cheese! Also, a table leg can be sharpened with cheese. To enter a human skull via the eye socket.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    @ KON

    by papal_Lazarou

    No no...the best is yet to cam-umbert.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Punisher Part Deux

    by Bayouwolf

    Punisher gotta eat... Some CHEESE!

  • July 25, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Salo: or 120 Days of Luneberg cheese

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Like a butterfly you can transform Finding your inner self through cheese Brie Chevre Gruyere Munster Learning the love of cheese Learning the love of you Finding your inner cheese Creamy Tart Dry Moist What kind of cheese are you? What kind of butterfly are you? The kind that kills folks dead

  • July 25, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Mozzarella Massacre

    by Stuntcock Mike

    A mind elixir, Held in anticipation The yearning to have it, Now, there, anywhere. Breathing the sharp and sometimes sweet scent. The first kiss of excitement that spills down the spine. Lucky tongue gets the first contact, teeth letting go. Surrounded in a process of melding, a bite or not. Embraced by the wonder of oneness...... Something for every want, be it subtle or intrusive. Soft and pungent, crisp and sweet. Feel the headiness, let go and enjoy, laugh. A taste of English Cheddar with Apricots, blueberries. Without bounds, Dive in to a Divine cheese. Then kill something.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Punisher 2: Ricotta Nine Millimeter

    by Stuntcock Mike

    There's nothing quite like a piece of cheese to nibble upon for pleasure and ease. No matter the time or state of mind greater joy than cheese you'll never find. Served on a cracker or a soft piece of bread a morceau de fromage will please your head. Roquefort, camembert, brie or blue served with fruit or in fondue God gave us cheese- a bit of heaven on earth to lift our burdens, providing sweet mirth. And after all our daily work is done we enjoy simple cheese just for fun. But remember the ancient custom of the house leave behind a kernel for the nocturnal mouse. Then blow up his house.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Stunct cock does a double cream

    by papal_Lazarou

    Dude, you can'tdouble churn your load in one go pal. The punisher has to be savoured, adored, smelled and loved. If you start double creaming, you're going to off before you mature. Maybe you should stick to mild instead of mature. I recommend a cheddar and you can work your way up to Parmesan and perhaps, in time, a Roqueforte.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Good Lord...

    by SunTzu77

    This is one franchise that studios have completely dropped the ball.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Punisher gotta eat cheese

    by king_of_nowhere

    Blue Stilton

  • July 25, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    papal_Lazarou. I have to blow several short loads

    by Stuntcock Mike

    before going home. Then, ahhhh, a Friday evening of the finest of cheeses. I shall start with...... a mild cheddar, as per your advice sir.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    To Cheese Or Not To Cheese

    by king_of_nowhere

    That is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer <p> The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,<p> Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,<p> And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; To eat cheese

  • July 25, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Cheese Vengeance

    by Gerald Fried

    The real reason Frank Castle became a vigilante was because he found out his kid had eaten the last Dairylea triangle.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    All the world's a cheese.

    by BuckminsterOhare

    And all the men and women merely eaters.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Now is the Wensleydale of our discontent

    by king_of_nowhere

    Made glorious summer by this Yorkshire dairy.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by John-Locke

    Cheese is a food made from milk, usually the milk of cows, buffalo, goats, or sheep, by coagulation. The milk is acidified, typically with a bacterial culture, then the addition of the enzyme rennet or a substitute (e.g. acetic acid or vinegar) causes coagulation, to give "curds and whey".[1] Some cheeses also have molds, either on the outer rind (similar to a fruit peel) or throughout.<p> Hundreds of types of cheese are produced. Their different styles, textures and flavors depend on the origin of the milk (including the animal's diet), whether it has been pasteurized, butterfat content, the species of bacteria and mold, and the processing including the length of aging. Herbs, spices, or wood smoke may be used as flavoring agents. The yellow to red color of many cheeses is a result of adding annatto. Cheeses are eaten both on their own and cooked in various dishes; most cheeses melt when heated. <p> For a few cheeses, the milk is curdled by adding acids such as vinegar or lemon juice. Most cheeses are acidified to a lesser degree by bacteria, which turn milk sugars into lactic acid, then the addition of rennet completes the curdling. Vegetarian alternatives to rennet are available; most are produced by fermentation of the fungus Mucor miehei, but others have been extracted from various species of the Cynara thistle family. <p> Cheese has served as a hedge against famine and is a good travel food. It is valuable for its portability, long life, and high content of fat, protein, calcium, and phosphorus. Cheese is more compact and has a longer shelf life than the milk from which it is made. Cheesemakers near a dairy region may benefit from fresher, lower-priced milk, and lower shipping costs. The long storage life of cheese allows selling it when markets are more favorable.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    That reminds me...

    by king_of_nowhere

    Wasn't Iron Man's suit 100% Edam?

  • July 25, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST


    by king_of_nowhere

    Cheese is a heroin-based recreational drug that surfaced in the United States in 2005 and came to the attention of the media inside and outside the United States after a string of deaths among adolescents in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, in 2006 and 2007. <p> Cheese is formed by combining heroin with crushed tablets of certain over-the-counter cold medication, such as Tylenol PM. Such cold medications contain acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, and the antihistamine diphenhydramine, the active ingredient in Benadryl and a common opiate potentiator.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    O Red Leicester

    by king_of_nowhere

    Red Leicester, wherefore art thou Red Leicester? <p> Deny thy father and refuse thy name;<p> Or if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love<p> And I'll no longer be a Cheddar

  • July 25, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I had a girl once....

    by papal_Lazarou

    He loved me so much that I used to cum-um-bert. The one day we went stale, so I had to Leicester go. I said to her, 'I Gloucester Leicester you go' She didn't like that. In ended up for months like that war film, with with Jake Gynennhall...Jarlsberg.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by MaxCalifornia.

    OK, I liked the overall look of this, and the violence seems like a pretty good representation of the Punisher Max universe, but what the FUCK is with Jigsaw in this? He looks ridiculous, like he's wandered in from a different Lionsgate Jason/Freddy/Michael Myers wannabe low rent slasher flick.

  • July 25, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Leicester Calling

    by king_of_nowhere

    Leicester calling to the faraway towns<p> Cheese war is declared-and battle come down<p> Leicester calling to the Shropshire Blue<p> Come out of the cupboard, all you Bries' and Gloucesters'<p> Leicester calling, now don't look at us<p> Now that phoney Baby Bell has bitten the dust<p> Leicester calling, see we ain't got no swing<p> 'Cept for the ring of that Stilton thing...

  • July 25, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST


    by papal_Lazarou

    The stilton thing were all that bling, then Danishes gold isn't that bold. Europe, cheese is where we all are, Wheres the cheese? Not Americaaaa.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    well, I'm pretty sure there'll never be a good Punisher

    by kirttrik

    Rock music...really?

  • July 25, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Lounge music, perhaps?

    by king_of_nowhere

    Maybe something by Richard Cheese?

  • July 25, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Imagine a world without cheese...

    by Gerald Fried

    ...dry crackers and boring sandwiches rule the age of supper snacks.

  • July 25, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    you forgot

    by king_of_nowhere


  • July 25, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Cheddar + Oatcakes

    by Gerald Fried

    ...even Bothy-dwellers know the power of cheese.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by Nachokoolaid

    CHEESE! You forgot the best one, bitches. Nacho + Kool-aid = Genitals on angels. Ponder that...

  • July 25, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    nothing more to say, Pondscum said it all

    by BadMrWonka

    this is mindless mess for idiot kids to sneak into...and it has nothing to do with the Punisher...

  • July 25, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    nothing more to say, BadMrWonka said it all...

    by havocSchultz

    this is mindless mess for idiot kids to sneak into...and it has nothing to do with CHEESE!!!

  • July 25, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST


    by suckit23

    Looks pretty kick ass, except for that horrible song.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:36 p.m. CST

    I don't know

    by King Psyz

    It seemed Gouda to me

  • July 25, 2008, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Looks like my kind of movie, sounds like

    by Vern

    the kids with giant pants and evil clown makeup who ask me for money on the street corners. I seriously don't think I will watch the movie if it's gonna have that type of swill on the soundtrack. They don't have a mute button in theaters.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Be careful Vern

    by King Psyz

    These same kids are also the type to post dead baby pictures on MySpace, so they're fairly unpredictable... Don't wanna enrage their taurine fueled masses.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Why is it so hard to make a proper Punisher movie?

    by King Psyz

    I swear you'd think Lionsgate had Raclette stuck in their ears to drown out the sound of common sense.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Sounds simple enough

    by Nachokoolaid

    Make a solid Punisher film by having the blood flow like runny cueso at a cheap mexican restaurant. Instant hit.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    I wanna see some inventive kills and torture

    by King Psyz

    Like stuffing a mafioso's head in a fondue pot till his brains spill out like molten Mozzarella and then make his goons eat his metly grey matter on little sticks with bread.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:26 p.m. CST

    wow that's got to be rated R

    by Rufferto

    The previous trailer had some corny ass lines in it though. I couldn't help but think "steven seagal", But this does have a lot of cool scenes and it already looks tons better then the last one. Travolta sucks. I didn't by his acting for a second.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST


    by Illuminate

    First the asshole executives put that hot piece off ass: Lexi Alexander off the film. Now they have put hard-rock in the movie. What the fuck!!!! There is a reason that most action films don't have hard rock and it is because only a small portion of the public likes that music. If you like hard rock than that is your business. But, from a comercial stand point hard rock is like country music. I am one of the several people who was supportive of this film but, now I have my doubts since those jack ass executives at Lions Gate are making some shitty decisions.

  • July 26, 2008, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Titus Pullo reborn

    by Staldo

    Looks like Titus Pullo with a gun. Stevenson deserves the part for hi performance episode 12 of Rome alone, the finale of which had to be the greatest thing ever televised.

  • July 26, 2008, 1:44 a.m. CST

    First movie?

    by spartacus728

    Ok...the first movie wasn't the best...although Thomas Jane was perfect...but all I can say about this trailer is "Yikes!" I think I'll wait for it to come out on DVD...and then not rent it.

  • July 26, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST


    by spartacus728

    Oh and also, colorful lights, hard rock, and heads exploding doesn't make a movie interesting. Story is king. this looks like a bad B-movie...if that.

  • July 26, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST


    by BuckminsterOhare

    The fridge sits empty Our dreams like Feta crumble My cheese is gone now

  • July 26, 2008, 3:22 a.m. CST

    recently watched the 04 version

    by Prossor

    what a dire movie.

  • July 26, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST

    What the Heck is up with that collar?

    by Sudynim

    I mean, it's a cool look...for like, maybe an emo anime character...but not for freakin' one man army, Frank Castle. Oh wait...I guess they needed an outfite to match the ballet-esque choreographed chandalier shooting scene.

  • July 26, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    btw, When does Marvel get the license to Punisher back?

    by Sudynim

    So they can reboot/reimagine that too. And hopefully 4th time's a charm.

  • July 26, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    i love the punisher....

    by machman36

    and i think ray stevenson is a good choice and the violence is in so i'm in. take a break from xmas shopping anyway

  • July 26, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST


    by Nachokoolaid

    They should cross promote this with White Castle restaurants. The Frank Castle "I'm about to blow your fucking head off" CHEESEburger.

  • July 26, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    It's great for the kids.

    by Nachokoolaid

    And they should call it that too. And if you order extra cheese, they tell you about THE ZONE. What? Shut up!

  • July 26, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Bottom Line - Hollywood HATES Comic Fans

    by Spymunk

    Remember - just because they recognize that, now, "regular people" go to comic book movies, that doesn't mean that Hollywood as a collective mind doesn't absolutely despise you if you're a genre fan. I've pointed this out to other people in the past - the HOTTEST comic books have print circulations of 30,000 copies of a given issue in a given month. If you multiply that by $10 admission price you've got $300,000. Now, imagine if Hollywood actually tried to stick to what works in a comic for a comic movie - they'd please $300,000 worth of people and totally alienate the non-mouth-breathing world. <p> Not only are comics fans totally irrelevant in terms of movie-making (remember that fact the next time you think of trying to start a petition or a letter-writing campaign about changing the size of somebody's motorbike onscreen or something like that), but they're less than irrelevant because they're an annoyance to the studio. <p> Trust me, the studio would MUCH rather the fanboys curled up and hid from the world - oh, wait, that's what fanboys do when faced with reality. <p> Bottom line - Hollywood HATES you. And this trailer is more proof of it - replacing a good score with thrash rock, throwing the director to the curb, changing the editing, changing the style - makling up a trailer with awful metal and fake-looking scratchy print effects. THAT's Hollywood.

  • July 26, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Oh, Yeah -

    by Spymunk

    Part of the reason I think the geeks get so up-in-arms about comic book movies is because they've dedcicated their lives to comics. <p> They see comics as their life's blood and care deeply about them, and they're afraid to be told by the public-at-large that the thing they care so much about is trash, or stupid, or childish. They think what they collect is a reference to who they are. <p> Bottom line, comics are a medium. SOme of it is trash, some of it is intelligent. THE PUNISHER ... is trash. At its BEST it's trash. Garth Ennis writes PUNISHER trash. It's incredibly fun trash, funny-as-hell trash. But it's still penny-dreadful trash. <p> The sooner geeks realize that it is trash, the better.

  • July 26, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST


    by halberd

    The trailer looks a bit rushed or if not that, just doesn't live up to what I was expecting. Maybe we should've had an actual director with some credentials, because Lexi Alexander prompted a google search... AFTER inquiring with imdb. Kickboxing better make this movie kick ass, I swear... because the first Punisher was pretty SICK.

  • July 26, 2008, 10:16 p.m. CST

    buckminster ohare

    by Bricktops hammer

    that was beautiful

  • July 27, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Bring Back Dolph!

    by CellarDweller

    It's sad when this clip and the last Punisher disaster makes Dolph's Punisher look good/like the definitive screen version. What is so difficult about getting this character right? He's Wolverine with a shitload of guns. Sheesh! Lexi you're hot but maybe try Jane Austin next time...