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TWILIGHT Comic-Con Panel Makes the Young Girls Go Wild!! And Capone goes deaf watching it happen!!

Published at: July 24, 2008, 8:59 p.m. CST by Capone

Hey everyone. Capone at Comic-Con here. Although this is my first time at this event, I had a pretty good idea what to expect at the panels, but nothing quite prepared me for what I'm guessing is an atypical event here. The panel for TWILIGHT was louder than any rock concert I've ever been to, with each of the cast members being greeted by a slightly younger-than-normal audience of several thousand adoring, mostly female fans of the book by Stephenie Myer. The result of the nearly hour-long panel was partial deafness for me. It may got without saying, but let me say it anyway: my interest in this film is limited. I know plenty of people of all ages (and all female) who have read the book and had a wide range of reactions. But for now, let's accept that there are a whole lot of people looking forward to this film about young vampires in love. Two things intrigued me about TWILIGHT going into this panel: the fact that Catherine Hardwicke (THIRTEEN; LORDS OF DOGTOWN) was the director; and young star Kristen Stewart, who plays the heroine Bella. Hardwicke is a skilled filmmaker who knows how to tell convincing stories about hormonally charged young people, so she seems well suited to make a film about a sensitive vampire named Edward (Robert Pattinson) and Bella. Stewart has been a gripping young actress since I first spotted her as Jodie Foster's child in PANIC ROOM. In last years INTO THE WILD, she played Emile Hirsch's love interest. I'll have short interviews with both very soon, but let's talk about this panel first. Screaming. That's all I really remember. Every time the face of one of the male actors on the panel was flashed up on screen, there was screaming. So much screaming, in fact, that I think it freaked everyone out on stage. It didn't help that during the Q&A (all of the audience questions came from, you guessed it, ladies) a couple girls took the opportunity to let Pattinson know how hot he was. Some people after the panel said Pattinson looked baked, but to me he looked deeply embarrassed by all of the attention and lust being shot his way by the entire audience. Aside from Pattinson, Stewart, and Hardwicke, the panel also included author Myer, and actors Cam Gigandet (from NEVER BACK DOWN, who plays evil vampire James), Edi Gathegi (recently on "House" as Laurent), Rachelle Lefevre (Victoria), and Taylor Lautner (as Bella's best friend Jacob). Lautner was also clearly a fan favorite, probably because he's so damn good looking, it makes me mad. The panel began with an extended scene from near the end of the film, in which James terrorizes Bella using a video camera and a lot of brute force. She is saved by Edward, and the two get into a fairly brutal physical battle. The scene actually played well, and not just to the choir. The fight was fairly bitchin' and James really looked like he was on the verge of causing Bella some serious damage. The beginning of the scene almost plays out like a rape in the making, and that added a level of tension to the sequence. James tosses her around a dark room, and eventually gets right in her face with the camera and asks her to show him fear as he declares her "very visually dynamic." When Edward breaks up the moment, the crowd went nuts. But who am I to judge? I did like it when Stewart said that she "got off" on the physicality of the chosen sequence. Normally, I'd try to give you a detailed account of some of the highlights from the panel and audience Q&A, but when you're dealing with people who ask questions such as, "Boxers, briefs, or nothing?" to male cast members, I think I was doomed not to get any revealing information from this event. The one interesting elements to the discussion occurred when the topic of doing the sequel came up. In a weird move, pretty much everybody connected with the film only signed to do one movie, so contract negotiations are probably in the works. Most of the actors seemed game to be in future films in this series, and Hardwicke certainly seemed to enjoy her time making the film. But apparently nothing is set in stone. One question was asked about on-set surprises, and Stewart told an interesting story about an improvised moment when she stuck her finger in Edward's mouth and said something like "Have a taste." She wasn't sure if the ad-lib would make the final film, but based on the slightly orgasmic reaction to her telling the story, Hardwicke should probably consider using it. I guess what is bugging me more and more about TWILIGHT isn't the film or the story. I'm always up for a decent vampire tale, or even a lame one sometimes. But the whole unveiling of it seems so packaged. I realize that's sort of the point of these panels, but the overwhelming interest in the film (as evidenced by the sheer number of reporters who swarmed the actors and filmmakers after the panel) seems to be based on the popularity of the books. And because of the chiseled nature of the actors, the young-girl fan base has already decided the film will be "amazing." The film has become a cultural phenomenon with hardly a frame of footage being out in the general public. Seeing the scene screened at Comic-Con makes me perhaps a little more hopeful that the film won't injure my eyes as I watch it, but these little girls need to calm the hell down. Or maybe the fault is mine. Maybe I need to get with the program. My touchstone here are the Harry Potter films. I've never read those novels, but I truly enjoy the movies. Maybe I'll cross over the side of teen angst, forbidden young love, and studly vampires one day soon. I have until December to figure that one out. -Capone capone@aintitcoolmail.com



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  • July 24, 2008, 9:16 p.m. CST

    High School Musical with vampires!!!

    by Stainboy136

    seriously

  • July 24, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST

    That panel...

    by xsi kal

    ...sounds like hell on earth.<br> There's enough girly squealing on most television sites, as it is. I'm surprised I didn't hear the high-pitched wails from downtown, (I live about 15 mins away from Comic Con).

  • July 24, 2008, 9:43 p.m. CST

    So basically this was NYC Comic Con "The Spirit" panel...

    by Sidepocket

    Except it was girls drooling about guys.

  • July 24, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Hilarious article

    by OptimusCrime

    Maybe you should get with the program, indeed.

  • July 24, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    erhm, what?

    by HessenRoots

    I'd never even heard of this until I saw the posters online a few weeks ago.

  • July 24, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    if you think that's bad, try Dark Knight

    by necgray

    Seriously, the audiences for THAT movie are just as ravenous and blind. How are so many people not seeing the flaws in that film? How?

  • July 24, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST

    M-O-O-N. That spells "what the fuck is Twilight?"

    by Tom Cullen

    Maybe I've been living under a rock, in the back of a cave, in the distant past, without a tv and internet connection and all, but I honestly have no idea. Is it really just some tweener book (and now movie) about "Young Vampires in love", or is there more to it than that? Do I even want to know? Answers on a postcard please...<p>M-O-O-N. That spells "I don't drink...wine".

  • July 24, 2008, 11 p.m. CST

    I bet 99% of TBers here have zero interest. But...

    by mefrog

    ...there's a fucking massive audience for this film. My sister is one who goes wild about this series. The trailer looks like disgusting teen drama but hey, Hardwicke has two good films under her belt IMO (Thirteen and Lords of Dogtown) so best of luck to her. Regardless, I'll be skipping this film.

  • July 24, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    trailer on TDK

    by stickmangrit

    looked like utter shit. you know it's bad when you're 12 year old brother looks up and you and says "i guess emo kids need movies too." couldn't be prouder of that filthy little hellion by the way.

  • July 24, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    You want easy to get sex this Christmas?

    by Jugs

    ..take your girl to see this film, trust me. The film might suck but you will score. From....a girl. Just one word of warning, your mother/aunt/mother-in-law just might be there too.

  • July 24, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by The Eskimo

    ...girls suck.

  • July 24, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    I read somewhere that Comic Con looked like

    by TVguy4566

    a Gossip Girls convention because all these teenage girls wanted to see the Twighlight forum. A bunch of teenage girls and geeks together in one big room. I think I might want to see video footage of that than actually watch the craptastic Twighlight.

  • July 24, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Hey I want easy to get sex this Christmas1

    by The Eskimo

    Where do I sign up?

  • July 25, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Um wtf is Twilight?

    by andrew coleman

    And why does anyone care? Is this the new Titanic? But with vampires...

  • July 25, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    and this is why i dont go anymore

    by bacci40

    and i dont give a shit what evanier says, this is not what kirby envisioned...and now i would like to rant...for years i was belittled for continuing the practice of reading and collecting comics...what the fuck is an adult doing reading kiddy books...but once a year, i knew that i could go somewhere, where everyone was like me and had an appreciation for the art form...once a year i knew that i could hobnob with the creators who i admired, and even the ones i didnt....and now that has all changed...now i know that the con had to expand to survive and support all the other smaller cons it runs, but this is getting fucking rediculous...hollywood fucks up everything it touches....it fucked up sundance and it fucked up the con...think any of those little girls will find their way to the friends of lulu booth or the panel??? fuck no..and twighlight is a fucking vampire lestadt ripoff for the tweener crowd...makes me fucking sick

  • July 25, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST

    here is what capone experienced...turn down the volumn

    by bacci40

    http://tinyurl.com/63pqex

  • July 25, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST

    mefrog...dogtown sucked

    by bacci40

    and go check out hardwicke on vids now posted on youtube...she thinks she is still 13...which is why she never shouldve been given dogtown to do....

  • July 25, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Oh, creepy fanboys...

    by CZ

    Long have I waited for the day when the fanboys would get some idea of what it feels like to be a geek of the wrong gender, twitching with discomfort as the salivating man-hordes genuflect to Cameron Diaz's magical swirlng bon bons. Sweet, sweet vengeance is mine!

  • July 25, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    This movie looks terrible

    by Series7

    And never looked good? Looks like the DTV sequel of The Covenant. Plus is Catherine Hardwicke a director anyone really cares about? I've seen so much about this movie, like its the next big thing.

  • July 25, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST

    M-O-O-N. That spells The Amazing G.

    by Tom Cullen

    Thanks man, I try. Plus I always get a kick out of the "what the fuck does M-O-O-N mean? I don't get it! My head is about to explode!!" posts. It's good to have a hobby...<p>M-O-O-N. That spells two birds, one stone.

  • July 25, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    The trailer to this looked no better than the Covenant

    by IndustryKiller!

    OK I've never read the books but to be as popular as they are they HAVE to be better than the footage seen so far. Really amatuerish with actors being all "IM A VAMPIRE WATCH ME BE VAMPIREY!!!" and the filmmaking looking very workmanlike. Someone tell me Im wrong here.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    twighlight fans embarressed by the boxers or briefs question

    by bacci40

    a question first posed to bill clinton on mtv...of course, most of these girls werent even born then...but these little girls post half naked pics of themselves on myspace...and cz, who is uncomfortable...christ, since time began teeny boppers have behaved like this around their idols...but this shit shouldnt be idolized...twighlight is so derivative of many other works that have come before, and then watered down for the tweener group...lay odds that none of these girls has ever seen lost boys or read 30 days of night...they might have glanced at interview with a vampire, but i doubt it

  • July 25, 2008, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Bacci it's really interesting that you say that

    by IndustryKiller!

    As I was sitting in the theater for the midnight show of Dark Knight with the teeming throngs of people I was having the same exact conversation with a friend how geek culture has basically become a poseur filled zeitgeist. All of the sudden EVERYONE loves Star Wars, superheroes, etc. and it's just complete horseshit. You're older than I am but even back in the day when I was a kid or in high school back when the first Star Wars Prequel came out I was one of maybe four people who had an interest in that kind of shit. I would have NEVER admitted to collecting action figures to the public at large and no one talked comics. Now people act as if they were always there. Bullshit. I was certainly there and THEY certainly weren't. These are people with nothing but the thinnest grasp on what these properties stand for or mean to people whose lives were changed by them. They serve no other purpose other than to take up space at conventions screaming about something they really know nothing about and generally killing a real fans good time. I really hope the idiot public finds something else to be obsessed with. I blame Hot Topic.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST

    It does seem like fanboys getting a taste of their own...

    by flickchick85

    madness, but I wouldn't wish that Twilight fandom on anyone. ANYONE. Tween girls are the scariest sect of society we have.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Also, the Twilight movie looks TERRIBLE

    by flickchick85

    seriously, it looks like a bad network sci-fi pilot or something. I've never read the books, and I'm pretty sure I never will. But that's not because of how shitty it looks and more because the plot sounds like every other vampire "gothic romance" there's ever been. Is that an actual genre now?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Everyone has their kinks

    by T-RACE

    This one is mine. I love the books, hope the movie does it justice. And flickchick85, between Laurell K. Hamilton to Charlaine Harris and now to Stephanie Meyers as well as many others... it definitely seems that way.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller! you are so right

    by bacci40

    and the thing is...they all still see us as geeks...bugs the livin shit out of me...they have taken over my con...the one time of year that i could be a part of the geek culture surrounded by tons of people, without feeling like an outsider...and i wont go back now...total bummer...and damn jack kirby and his spot on prediction as to what the con would become

  • July 25, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Ok T-Race, so as a fan of the books

    by IndustryKiller!

    What are your thoughts of the footage of the film shown? Because from where i'm standing it looks like just another bad teen action thriller in the spirit of The Covenant. Bland filmmaking with no atmosphere, bad special effects, and actors playing up the VAMPIRENESS! of it all. I mean did you see hte footage of the fight between the good vampire (Edward?) and the bad vampire guy (a bad actor)? It was seriously the most stock looking overly wireworked vampire fight footage I've ever seen. Compete with cheesy bad guy vampires lame taunts in between. The whole thing just screams bland. I know you like the books, but if you'd never read them I bet you would have looked at that trailer and dismissed the film immediately. give us some perspective from your side because the books gotta be better than that.

  • July 25, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Bacci, what did Kirby say?

    by IndustryKiller!

    And I was too young to go to the con back in the good old days and lived a country away to boot. now I live in LA, a two hour drive, and I wouldn't go near that thing boring looking mess. Lament for me. I've been watching footage of the Wolverine panel online and it's just ridiculous. WHy would I want to sit in a room while an actor whose performance I take issue with mugs for the fans (who once again, know NOTHING about the character to begin with) and tells them everything they want to hear and they just scream like sheep in return?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Girls like that are the reason

    by V'Shael

    that Titanic made over a billion dollars. <p> I just hope this movie isn't released up against something deserving, like Watchmen.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Looks Like A Stupid Movie w/ Bad Acting

    by KISSman24

    Utter crap.

  • July 25, 2008, 4:52 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!...here is how the story is told

    by bacci40

    back in 76 (were you even born yet) he and kirby and a few others were shooting the shit at the con, and evanier was complaining outloud about the less than huge turnouts...kirby turned to him and said that within 20 years, the con would be where hollywood premiered its movies and searched for new projects and that the con would so far outgrow their current single hotel confines, that it would fill an entire convention center and still be too small....evanier says he turned to jack and laffed, for at that time, only a few hundred hardcore fans were attending....jack knew...its just fucking too bad that all the hero worship now goes to stan lee...theres a vid of the con jack attended on his 75th birthday, where he predicts that the following year the attendence would triple...and he was close...it almost tripled the next year....man was a visionary...too bad that its stan lee who now gets all the hero worship....as an aside, kirby never sat during the entire con...he felt it was rude to the fans to sit there while they had to stand to talk to him...he was a true gentleman...i miss him

  • July 25, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    you guys have NO idea how fucking huge this movie will be

    by Magic Rat

    Like, TITANIC big. We're talking $70-80 million opening weekend and probable $200-300 million domestic box office. <br> <br> I love the books, personally, and I'm a guy. I'll be there with my fiancee and this isn't the type of movie that fans of the book will see just once, that's why I'm predicting HUGE shocking numbers.

  • July 25, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    as for what Twilight is about, for those who don't know

    by Magic Rat

    a short synopsis... <br> <br> A girl moves in with her dad in Washington state, goes to high school, and meets a bunch of weird looking kids who keep to themselves. <br> <br> The strange kids turn out to be vampires, but they don't drink human blood, they go out once a month and hunt mountain lions and feed off of them. <br> <br> Eventually Bella (the main girl) and Edward (the main guy) hook up and start dating and he introduces her to his "family" which is a bunch of other vampires, some with special abilities - one is really strong, one is psychic, one can control people's emotions and their leader is a doctor whose in his mid-20s who people in the town think adopted the other kids. The doctor is actually interesting because he's a surgeon, is around blood all the time, but is so old he's learned to shut off his thirst for human blood. <br> <br> One day the family goes out to play baseball in the woods. and it's vampire baseball, and since they're all super strong, they hit the ball like half a mile and go chasing after it with super speed (which should be a cool scene in the movie). <br> <br> At that point their game is interrupted by three vampires who come out of the woods. they're bad vampires, they still drink human blood. they come up on the Cullens and are confused as to why they keep a human with them. <br> <br> Eventually the head of the other clan wants Bella, and Edward is forced to protect her, so he takes her away. the only thing is, the other vampire is a master tracker, so he hunts her down. <br> <br> The Cullen family hides Bella, but the other vampire comes up with a plan and eventually gets ahold of her, which brings us to the scene that was shown at ComicCon. <br> <br> There's also a minor subplot in the story involving a clan of American Indian werewolves that becomes larger in books two and three - as the werewolves and vampires inhabit the same land, and the werewolves are sworn to protect humans from the vampires. <br> <br> The Indian kids don't know they're werewolves, and only start to change once the outsider vampires start to show up on their lands. So the next books deal with them becomming werewolves and Bella falling for one of the werewolves after she has a falling-out with Edward. <br> <br> Oh, and the last book has a big war between the good vampires, the werewovles and some Vatican-like clan of super vampires that are older and more powerful than any vampires on earth. <br> <br> So, yeah, that's Twilight.

  • July 25, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    'Twilight' to open on December 12th

    by Miami Mofo

    V'Shael, in answer to your question, December 12th is the day that 'Twilight' is scheduled to open in the U.S. & Canada. Also opening on that day is the remake of 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'. It will be interesting to see which film wins the weekend. I don't know if Summit Entertainment will open 'Twilight' in enough theatres to beat 'TDtESS' in total box office, but I do think that it will beat 'TDtESS' in per-screen average. But that's just my un-educated guess.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Not all Female

    by Potch

    There are actually many male Twilight fans out there as well.

  • July 25, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    A little more about the plot...

    by Potch

    MagicRat, you left out the biggest point of all. At it's core, Twilight is a love story. It's about a forbidden romance... a human and a vampire and the complications that come from that. It's more about the characters and their relationships than it is about the vampire aspect. To some of the others that have posted, this story is so much more than an "emo" movie or a typical vampire story. Twilight is far from typical. Also, FYI, the clips and trailers that have been shown are not fully edited. Many of the effects are not finished, which is why some of the clips look "dull" and "tv-like". As a fan (and not a tween), I'm very interested to see these characters brought to life on the big screen. What interests me about the movie is that they have tried their hardest to make it true to the books. From what I've seen so far, I think they have done a fantastic job. They chose the right cast, have the right script, and I think for fans, it's going to be decent.

  • July 25, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Sounds boring as hell

    by xsi kal

    ...and I hate the fact that the entire 'vampires in contemporary america' genre (1) has gotten as big as it has, and (2) is almost entirely subverted by pseudo romance writers.<br><br> Every other fucking book out there these days is some chick being oddly attracted to the dark/emo/whatever guy who also happens to have some sort of supernatural powers. Enough already.

  • July 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    And yet all the male geeks

    by Bean_

    practically cream themselves over Spider Man, X-Men or Batman or whatever comic book movie they freak over. All of them profess how AMAZING the movie is, but to most of the girls (I'm a guy so I can't really speak for them but I'm guessing) these movies pretty much suck. They like their chick flicks or their romantic comedies or their dramas, or in this case their teenage-vampire-romance adventure movie. Why can't we let the girls have their fun, when they always let us have ours?

  • July 25, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    i shoulda posted in this TB

    by occula

    instead of the kristin stewart one, but i'll rehash coz i enjoy a rant. these books are poorly written and poor hardwick, who honestly does a good job with gritty material like '13', has nuthin' to work with here so this movie is going to be terrible too. the whole situation came from a bunch of teenage girls looking for a post harry potter fixation and they found it in these mormon-y uptight fake romances.

  • July 25, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    IndustryKiller!

    by T-RACE

    I am excited about the movie, but I do have my concerns. Honestly, the trailer didn't entice me very much, and I have seen the footage between Edward (good vamp) and James (bad vamp) and hope the finished product looks better. I'm a big fan of Kristin and Catherine though, so I'm willing to hope for the best until I see the whole thing. And also, I have yet to see a movie that's better than the book. I don't expect this one to be any different.

  • July 25, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Sadly...

    by Barrock

    This will be HUGE. Entertainment Weekly did a cover story about it. The issues were sold out everywhere. Bookstores are doing midnight parties for the release of the next one. I read a quote from a fan saying the author was better than JK Rowling because Rowling might be a one hit wonder. -_- Anyway Mormon vampires can't be that fun, can they?

  • July 25, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    the author doesnt know shit about baseball either

    by bacci40

    the girl's dad is her stepdad, who is a minor league baseball player...uh, there are very few milb guys with teen stepdaughters cuz there are very few milb guys above the age of 35...you dont make much money playing in the minors and teams dont usually want a guy in his 30s on their team...now if he was a manager that would be different and make alot of sense...and huge??? the general public knew about potter...the potter books were a phenomenom long before the movie was announced....i hadnt heard of this series until the first trailer came out...this will fail just like the golden compass

  • July 25, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    to Bacci40

    by Potch

    That argument holds no weight. If you had actually read the books, you would know that her step father is new, and is actually quite a bit younger than her mother, who was also very young when she had Bella. ALso, YOU may not have heard of the series before the trailer, but the thousands of fans of the series were around long before the movie was even cast.

  • July 28, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Phoenix...

    by Potch

    Actually, I'm a huge Whedon fan, and a huge Twilight fan, and I really don't consider it to be a ripoff of Buffy. While there are some similarities between the Buffy/Angel and Bella/Edward relationship, the two stories are quite different.

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