July 24, 2008, 9:16 p.m. CST
July 24, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST
by xsi kal
...sounds like hell on earth.<br> There's enough girly squealing on most television sites, as it is. I'm surprised I didn't hear the high-pitched wails from downtown, (I live about 15 mins away from Comic Con).
July 24, 2008, 9:43 p.m. CST
Except it was girls drooling about guys.
July 24, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST
Maybe you should get with the program, indeed.
July 24, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST
I'd never even heard of this until I saw the posters online a few weeks ago.
July 24, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST
Seriously, the audiences for THAT movie are just as ravenous and blind. How are so many people not seeing the flaws in that film? How?
July 24, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST
by Tom Cullen
Maybe I've been living under a rock, in the back of a cave, in the distant past, without a tv and internet connection and all, but I honestly have no idea. Is it really just some tweener book (and now movie) about "Young Vampires in love", or is there more to it than that? Do I even want to know? Answers on a postcard please...<p>M-O-O-N. That spells "I don't drink...wine".
July 24, 2008, 11 p.m. CST
...there's a fucking massive audience for this film. My sister is one who goes wild about this series. The trailer looks like disgusting teen drama but hey, Hardwicke has two good films under her belt IMO (Thirteen and Lords of Dogtown) so best of luck to her. Regardless, I'll be skipping this film.
July 24, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST
looked like utter shit. you know it's bad when you're 12 year old brother looks up and you and says "i guess emo kids need movies too." couldn't be prouder of that filthy little hellion by the way.
July 24, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST
..take your girl to see this film, trust me. The film might suck but you will score. From....a girl. Just one word of warning, your mother/aunt/mother-in-law just might be there too.
July 24, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST
by The Eskimo
July 24, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST
a Gossip Girls convention because all these teenage girls wanted to see the Twighlight forum. A bunch of teenage girls and geeks together in one big room. I think I might want to see video footage of that than actually watch the craptastic Twighlight.
July 24, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST
by The Eskimo
Where do I sign up?
July 25, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
And why does anyone care? Is this the new Titanic? But with vampires...
July 25, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST
and i dont give a shit what evanier says, this is not what kirby envisioned...and now i would like to rant...for years i was belittled for continuing the practice of reading and collecting comics...what the fuck is an adult doing reading kiddy books...but once a year, i knew that i could go somewhere, where everyone was like me and had an appreciation for the art form...once a year i knew that i could hobnob with the creators who i admired, and even the ones i didnt....and now that has all changed...now i know that the con had to expand to survive and support all the other smaller cons it runs, but this is getting fucking rediculous...hollywood fucks up everything it touches....it fucked up sundance and it fucked up the con...think any of those little girls will find their way to the friends of lulu booth or the panel??? fuck no..and twighlight is a fucking vampire lestadt ripoff for the tweener crowd...makes me fucking sick
July 25, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST
July 25, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST
and go check out hardwicke on vids now posted on youtube...she thinks she is still 13...which is why she never shouldve been given dogtown to do....
July 25, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST
Long have I waited for the day when the fanboys would get some idea of what it feels like to be a geek of the wrong gender, twitching with discomfort as the salivating man-hordes genuflect to Cameron Diaz's magical swirlng bon bons. Sweet, sweet vengeance is mine!
July 25, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST
And never looked good? Looks like the DTV sequel of The Covenant. Plus is Catherine Hardwicke a director anyone really cares about? I've seen so much about this movie, like its the next big thing.
July 25, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST
by Tom Cullen
Thanks man, I try. Plus I always get a kick out of the "what the fuck does M-O-O-N mean? I don't get it! My head is about to explode!!" posts. It's good to have a hobby...<p>M-O-O-N. That spells two birds, one stone.
July 25, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST
OK I've never read the books but to be as popular as they are they HAVE to be better than the footage seen so far. Really amatuerish with actors being all "IM A VAMPIRE WATCH ME BE VAMPIREY!!!" and the filmmaking looking very workmanlike. Someone tell me Im wrong here.
July 25, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST
a question first posed to bill clinton on mtv...of course, most of these girls werent even born then...but these little girls post half naked pics of themselves on myspace...and cz, who is uncomfortable...christ, since time began teeny boppers have behaved like this around their idols...but this shit shouldnt be idolized...twighlight is so derivative of many other works that have come before, and then watered down for the tweener group...lay odds that none of these girls has ever seen lost boys or read 30 days of night...they might have glanced at interview with a vampire, but i doubt it
July 25, 2008, 2:10 a.m. CST
As I was sitting in the theater for the midnight show of Dark Knight with the teeming throngs of people I was having the same exact conversation with a friend how geek culture has basically become a poseur filled zeitgeist. All of the sudden EVERYONE loves Star Wars, superheroes, etc. and it's just complete horseshit. You're older than I am but even back in the day when I was a kid or in high school back when the first Star Wars Prequel came out I was one of maybe four people who had an interest in that kind of shit. I would have NEVER admitted to collecting action figures to the public at large and no one talked comics. Now people act as if they were always there. Bullshit. I was certainly there and THEY certainly weren't. These are people with nothing but the thinnest grasp on what these properties stand for or mean to people whose lives were changed by them. They serve no other purpose other than to take up space at conventions screaming about something they really know nothing about and generally killing a real fans good time. I really hope the idiot public finds something else to be obsessed with. I blame Hot Topic.
July 25, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST
madness, but I wouldn't wish that Twilight fandom on anyone. ANYONE. Tween girls are the scariest sect of society we have.
July 25, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST
seriously, it looks like a bad network sci-fi pilot or something. I've never read the books, and I'm pretty sure I never will. But that's not because of how shitty it looks and more because the plot sounds like every other vampire "gothic romance" there's ever been. Is that an actual genre now?
July 25, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST
This one is mine. I love the books, hope the movie does it justice. And flickchick85, between Laurell K. Hamilton to Charlaine Harris and now to Stephanie Meyers as well as many others... it definitely seems that way.
July 25, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST
and the thing is...they all still see us as geeks...bugs the livin shit out of me...they have taken over my con...the one time of year that i could be a part of the geek culture surrounded by tons of people, without feeling like an outsider...and i wont go back now...total bummer...and damn jack kirby and his spot on prediction as to what the con would become
July 25, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST
What are your thoughts of the footage of the film shown? Because from where i'm standing it looks like just another bad teen action thriller in the spirit of The Covenant. Bland filmmaking with no atmosphere, bad special effects, and actors playing up the VAMPIRENESS! of it all. I mean did you see hte footage of the fight between the good vampire (Edward?) and the bad vampire guy (a bad actor)? It was seriously the most stock looking overly wireworked vampire fight footage I've ever seen. Compete with cheesy bad guy vampires lame taunts in between. The whole thing just screams bland. I know you like the books, but if you'd never read them I bet you would have looked at that trailer and dismissed the film immediately. give us some perspective from your side because the books gotta be better than that.
July 25, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST
And I was too young to go to the con back in the good old days and lived a country away to boot. now I live in LA, a two hour drive, and I wouldn't go near that thing boring looking mess. Lament for me. I've been watching footage of the Wolverine panel online and it's just ridiculous. WHy would I want to sit in a room while an actor whose performance I take issue with mugs for the fans (who once again, know NOTHING about the character to begin with) and tells them everything they want to hear and they just scream like sheep in return?
July 25, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST
that Titanic made over a billion dollars. <p> I just hope this movie isn't released up against something deserving, like Watchmen.
July 25, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST
July 25, 2008, 4:52 a.m. CST
back in 76 (were you even born yet) he and kirby and a few others were shooting the shit at the con, and evanier was complaining outloud about the less than huge turnouts...kirby turned to him and said that within 20 years, the con would be where hollywood premiered its movies and searched for new projects and that the con would so far outgrow their current single hotel confines, that it would fill an entire convention center and still be too small....evanier says he turned to jack and laffed, for at that time, only a few hundred hardcore fans were attending....jack knew...its just fucking too bad that all the hero worship now goes to stan lee...theres a vid of the con jack attended on his 75th birthday, where he predicts that the following year the attendence would triple...and he was close...it almost tripled the next year....man was a visionary...too bad that its stan lee who now gets all the hero worship....as an aside, kirby never sat during the entire con...he felt it was rude to the fans to sit there while they had to stand to talk to him...he was a true gentleman...i miss him
July 25, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST
by Magic Rat
Like, TITANIC big. We're talking $70-80 million opening weekend and probable $200-300 million domestic box office. <br> <br> I love the books, personally, and I'm a guy. I'll be there with my fiancee and this isn't the type of movie that fans of the book will see just once, that's why I'm predicting HUGE shocking numbers.
July 25, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST
by Magic Rat
a short synopsis... <br> <br> A girl moves in with her dad in Washington state, goes to high school, and meets a bunch of weird looking kids who keep to themselves. <br> <br> The strange kids turn out to be vampires, but they don't drink human blood, they go out once a month and hunt mountain lions and feed off of them. <br> <br> Eventually Bella (the main girl) and Edward (the main guy) hook up and start dating and he introduces her to his "family" which is a bunch of other vampires, some with special abilities - one is really strong, one is psychic, one can control people's emotions and their leader is a doctor whose in his mid-20s who people in the town think adopted the other kids. The doctor is actually interesting because he's a surgeon, is around blood all the time, but is so old he's learned to shut off his thirst for human blood. <br> <br> One day the family goes out to play baseball in the woods. and it's vampire baseball, and since they're all super strong, they hit the ball like half a mile and go chasing after it with super speed (which should be a cool scene in the movie). <br> <br> At that point their game is interrupted by three vampires who come out of the woods. they're bad vampires, they still drink human blood. they come up on the Cullens and are confused as to why they keep a human with them. <br> <br> Eventually the head of the other clan wants Bella, and Edward is forced to protect her, so he takes her away. the only thing is, the other vampire is a master tracker, so he hunts her down. <br> <br> The Cullen family hides Bella, but the other vampire comes up with a plan and eventually gets ahold of her, which brings us to the scene that was shown at ComicCon. <br> <br> There's also a minor subplot in the story involving a clan of American Indian werewolves that becomes larger in books two and three - as the werewolves and vampires inhabit the same land, and the werewolves are sworn to protect humans from the vampires. <br> <br> The Indian kids don't know they're werewolves, and only start to change once the outsider vampires start to show up on their lands. So the next books deal with them becomming werewolves and Bella falling for one of the werewolves after she has a falling-out with Edward. <br> <br> Oh, and the last book has a big war between the good vampires, the werewovles and some Vatican-like clan of super vampires that are older and more powerful than any vampires on earth. <br> <br> So, yeah, that's Twilight.
July 25, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST
by Miami Mofo
V'Shael, in answer to your question, December 12th is the day that 'Twilight' is scheduled to open in the U.S. & Canada. Also opening on that day is the remake of 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'. It will be interesting to see which film wins the weekend. I don't know if Summit Entertainment will open 'Twilight' in enough theatres to beat 'TDtESS' in total box office, but I do think that it will beat 'TDtESS' in per-screen average. But that's just my un-educated guess.
July 25, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST
There are actually many male Twilight fans out there as well.
July 25, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST
MagicRat, you left out the biggest point of all. At it's core, Twilight is a love story. It's about a forbidden romance... a human and a vampire and the complications that come from that. It's more about the characters and their relationships than it is about the vampire aspect. To some of the others that have posted, this story is so much more than an "emo" movie or a typical vampire story. Twilight is far from typical. Also, FYI, the clips and trailers that have been shown are not fully edited. Many of the effects are not finished, which is why some of the clips look "dull" and "tv-like". As a fan (and not a tween), I'm very interested to see these characters brought to life on the big screen. What interests me about the movie is that they have tried their hardest to make it true to the books. From what I've seen so far, I think they have done a fantastic job. They chose the right cast, have the right script, and I think for fans, it's going to be decent.
July 25, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST
by xsi kal
...and I hate the fact that the entire 'vampires in contemporary america' genre (1) has gotten as big as it has, and (2) is almost entirely subverted by pseudo romance writers.<br><br> Every other fucking book out there these days is some chick being oddly attracted to the dark/emo/whatever guy who also happens to have some sort of supernatural powers. Enough already.
July 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST
practically cream themselves over Spider Man, X-Men or Batman or whatever comic book movie they freak over. All of them profess how AMAZING the movie is, but to most of the girls (I'm a guy so I can't really speak for them but I'm guessing) these movies pretty much suck. They like their chick flicks or their romantic comedies or their dramas, or in this case their teenage-vampire-romance adventure movie. Why can't we let the girls have their fun, when they always let us have ours?
July 25, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST
instead of the kristin stewart one, but i'll rehash coz i enjoy a rant. these books are poorly written and poor hardwick, who honestly does a good job with gritty material like '13', has nuthin' to work with here so this movie is going to be terrible too. the whole situation came from a bunch of teenage girls looking for a post harry potter fixation and they found it in these mormon-y uptight fake romances.
July 25, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST
I am excited about the movie, but I do have my concerns. Honestly, the trailer didn't entice me very much, and I have seen the footage between Edward (good vamp) and James (bad vamp) and hope the finished product looks better. I'm a big fan of Kristin and Catherine though, so I'm willing to hope for the best until I see the whole thing. And also, I have yet to see a movie that's better than the book. I don't expect this one to be any different.
July 25, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST
This will be HUGE. Entertainment Weekly did a cover story about it. The issues were sold out everywhere. Bookstores are doing midnight parties for the release of the next one. I read a quote from a fan saying the author was better than JK Rowling because Rowling might be a one hit wonder. -_- Anyway Mormon vampires can't be that fun, can they?
July 25, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST
the girl's dad is her stepdad, who is a minor league baseball player...uh, there are very few milb guys with teen stepdaughters cuz there are very few milb guys above the age of 35...you dont make much money playing in the minors and teams dont usually want a guy in his 30s on their team...now if he was a manager that would be different and make alot of sense...and huge??? the general public knew about potter...the potter books were a phenomenom long before the movie was announced....i hadnt heard of this series until the first trailer came out...this will fail just like the golden compass
July 25, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST
That argument holds no weight. If you had actually read the books, you would know that her step father is new, and is actually quite a bit younger than her mother, who was also very young when she had Bella. ALso, YOU may not have heard of the series before the trailer, but the thousands of fans of the series were around long before the movie was even cast.
July 28, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST
Actually, I'm a huge Whedon fan, and a huge Twilight fan, and I really don't consider it to be a ripoff of Buffy. While there are some similarities between the Buffy/Angel and Bella/Edward relationship, the two stories are quite different.