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Bryan Singer Signing On To New Warner Bros. Superhero Movie??
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Bryan Singer, director of the first two “X-Men” movies and “Superman Returns,” is in talks to produce Warner Bros.’ big screen superhero project “Capeshooters.”
The Hollywood Reporter describes the premise:
J.P. Lavin and Chad Damiani will write the screenplay, which follows two down-on-their-luck slackers who specialize in shooting videos of superheroes. They find themselves on the run when they uncover evidence that a legendary superhero actually is evil.
Lavin and Damiani were producers on last year's very short-lived Fox reality series "Anchorwoman."
"Capeshooters" is based on a not-yet-published graphic novel by Rob Liefeld ("Youngblood").
Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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I hope Bryan Singer directs.
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maybe
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come up with lame idea , hire screenwriters then hire comic writers and artists so it can be an official " comic book" movie ... brilliant ..
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Sounds like a TV movie to me, and there are so many good stories out there that have not been touched.
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I'm all superheroed out. Wake me up when the Avengers movie is out.
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So everyone's bodies will be disproportionate to the location or existence of their spine and no one will be able to use their arms because their forearm muscles are too big...
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Rob Liefeld is the most awful comics "talent" EVER. This idea sounds terrible. Brian Singer needs to get back into dramas.
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Wtf? After DK, you would think WB would get something going on this property...
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ah it already started as I am typing this....all the guys bought multiple copies of X-Force #1 and Youngblood #1 I guarantee it! And I like his art style....i dont want all comics like that by any means...but it has a kind of extreme kineticism that works for me......anyway....I trust Bryan Singer....I'll give it a looksee
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Or maybe prequel, I forget...
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Jul 22, 2008 8:28:04 PM CDT
As long as they keep him far far away from any important superhe
by fiester
Like Superman or Green Lantern. Though I suppose he could do a good job with Wonder Women. Gay men do tend to know how to accessorize women well.
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Since "Superman Returns," Bryan Singer hasn't been the same quality director I've known all these years. The trailer for "Valkyrie" didn't look too bad, but sounded insultingly silly. Cruise playing a German, with no accent? This was a bad directing decision, though I'm sure they're ADR-ing in better vocals.
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instead of their DC characters? i swear to christ, that's a really stupid idea for a movie, too.
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I personally consider X-Men 2 one of the greatest comic movies in years. The guy can direct without a doubt. His prowess as a filmmaker has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his sexual orientation. I think it really just depends on the projects he selects. So fuck off with that ignorant bull shit please.
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hahahahaha....finally after 20 years he gets something made...and the concept sux ass...oh and Brunomac, hancock is far from original
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in ANY way. http://i.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/i mages/livestock~captain.jpg
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Oh, you can't be serious.
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like he was being eaten by an Alien from the inside? That Rob Liefeld?
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and with a pic no less. Nicely done, sir.
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You're trying to tell me that Bryan Singer could be making a Rob Liefeld movie?No, somebody's yankin' you.
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comic isnt even out, they have no clue if it'll be good or popular or whatever and they're already working on a movie version? wow
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Like a child befriends a Swamp Thing like superhero. Then discovers the Swamp Thing's fart cause global warming. What a twist!
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He based the discrimination towards the mutatants in the discrimination against gays. I dont care if he is gay or anything, but i dont think the gay undertones were correct,
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He has no feet! Oh, wait, that's almost everyone in a Liefeld book, isn't it? Okay, you know how they tell he's evil? He's a thinly veiled and badly written ripoff of another far more popular character...oh wait, that's also pretty much everyone in a Liefeld book. Okay, screw it. Oh, and remember kids, GIANT GUNS MAKE EVERYTHING COOL!
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I guess
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He goes hand in hand with what was wrong with comics in the nineties. Liefeld, Chrome embossed glow in the dark multiple covers and shitty art with horrible pencils and big guns. I stopped reading comics for a while until everyone stopped aping his style. He's a swiper and a bad one at that. How he got Alan Moore to drink his kool-Aid I'll never know.
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sounds like a bad idea
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I really do not like liefeld
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Not even worth wasting 2 brain cells thinking about seeing it. This must be a JOKE...
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Jul 22, 2008 9:14:28 PM CDT
Singer should make The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay!
by beastie
He has everything that it would take to make that film wonderful.
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...finally got the hollywood break he was looking for. Everybody should read the great Comics Journal article on "The Image Story", about the rise and fall (at least compared to its once historic heights) of Image comics. There the article strongly criticizes Liefeld as one of those guys who was too busy pitching ideas to Hollywood and having lunch with Cruise and Spielberg to ever get an real comic book work done. Great read, especially when it points out how for all his self-proclaimed ideas about his comic books becoming movie franchises and blockbusters, they never even got to the script stage. Well it finally looks like Liefeld's effort will unfortunately come to fruition. Ugh.
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ZING! I really used to like his artwork back when he was working with Louise Simonson. He got REALLY lazy when he started writing for himself and/or hiring his own writers. He's also got no follow through. He starts lots of projects and never finishes them. It's a shame because I think he could be doing a lot better for himself if he could focus on completing one project before starting another.
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Rule number 1- No Fucking Kids Asshole.
Rule Number 2- Make Sure There is Fighting
Rule Number 3 - Leave the Gay Innuendo in the closet
Rule Number 4- Don't hire a couple College Frat Boys to ruin, er I mean to write your script
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In England, you can be charged with VERBAL assault, without getting physical. His family's just trying to cash in on his success and causing trouble when he gets upset with them.
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Ambiguously Gay Duo, that shit would break records. Singer could even grab Cruise and Routh as the stars, it's be perfect.
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He must work for the devil, or worse, Disney.
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that dickwad owes me about $500 from when i was 11-13 years old.
i hope for his new book that every character is named a mispelled compound word, like "bluudaxe" or "wulfkutt", or the last name of an important person, like "luther king" or "mozart". or, fuck, just a variation on an already established popular character "spydermann" or "kaptain USA"
i hope there are lots of shitty onomatopoeias like "kurgglepap!" or "vixXxen!!"
i hope the depth of the characters go as far as "you are my sister. you are my father. you are my brother...and ENEMY!" and no further.
i hope there are 9 different chromium embossed collectible variant covers for issue #1 (at $7.50 a piece) and then an 8 month lull before issue #2.
i hope everyone wears a solid-colored leotard, tons of pouches, shoulder pads, and has cotton-candy hair.
i hope all of the artists that emulated his "style" (dan fraga, dan panosian, chap yaep) all tag team hiw wife, joy beth kreel.
remember when "doom's IV" (his blatant fantastic four rip-off) was "going to be directed by steven spielberg?" that shit wasn't even written yet, either. still hasn't, as far as i know.
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Every character must...
1) Grimace constantly as if constipated no matter what is going on, 2) Wear gigantic shoulder pads and utility belts with hundreds and hundreds of pouches which contain god only knows what, 3) Have tiny or non-existent feet (often hidden behind rocks or smoke, 4) Barely resemble a human-being due to the fact that Liefield has seemingly no working knowledge of human anatomy, 5) Carry several gigantic toaster shaped guns that have two or three barrels, 6) Feature hundreds of randomly scribbled lines all over their bodies which are, I assume, supposed to be cross-hatching as done by a monkey with down's syndrome stung out on painkiller
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This is makes my day. Put Singer in charge of a project that he can screw up to his heart's content, because nobody could care less either way.
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He fucked up Superman so completely, that he has been kicked to the cheap seats. Guess he didn't blow the right guys this time. Tough luck, Bryan. Next time don't do so much coke you hysterical emo queen you.
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of how rob liefeld owes you 500 dollars from when you were a kid. you MUST.
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Jul 22, 2008 9:31:53 PM CDT
Holy Shit, That Captain America "Drawing" Is Fucking HILARIOUS
by laserpants
Thats bad even for him.
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Loathed 'Returns'. After watching TDK, never thought it possible, but I loathed SR even more.
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...because as a young, stupid kid, mowing lawns and being really excited about IMAGE COMICS(!!!) i would spend far too much money on uninspired sketchbooks (youngblood, brigade, bloodstrike, new men, bloodwulf, UGH! it pains me to write their names!).
the first issue of youngblood they fucking hunt down and kill "hassan kussein".
thanks rob...way to get the reader on your side by going after saddam hussein. what a simpleton.
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Right? Luckily, I didn't fall into the same trap. Actually, the Liefielding of comics is why I stopped reading comics (well, superhero stuff) for almost ten years.
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You beat me to it.
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There was one issue that was a HILARIOUS parody of all things Liefield. I still have it somewhere... somewhere...
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Calm down. There was no gay prejudice. The guy was just pointing out that Superman Returns was gay, and it sucked. No prejudice, just observation. Batman and Robin was also gay and it sucked. Again observation. So, there is no prejudging going on here... rather conclusions based on documented fact: Gay people suck at making Superhero movies. They should go make fashion based movies that catty women enjoy.
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DOOM PATROL was hysterical.
honestly, reading brigade or youngblood now is pretty funny. it's awful. awful.
wasn't he supposedly doing an "end of days" comic book with biblical references and religious undertones. talk about fucking torture...rob liefeld's comic book adaptation of the bible.
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I mean, he has cracked the code for getting people to give him money for doing little or nothing. Anyone remember a few years back when he sold some studio on his new comic strip about superheroes visiting a psychologist? Jennifer Lopez was attached to the thing... And it turned out to be based on all of 3 or 4 "Ziggy" style one-panel cartoons he had drawn, with each one having an incredibly lame, pun oriented caption for a punchline. Like the Human Torch parody saying "I get pretty hot under the collar sometimes, and I get fired up and need to let off some steam..." And somebody paid money for the rights to them. Seriously. Look up "Liefeld Shrink" sometime on google images if you want to see how little effort or thought went into them, and marvel at how he could get that thin premise optioned in a movie deal. Why the hell should he bother to practice drawing?
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I heard from a good source that Stephen Gaghan was asked to look at this project and he passed it by.
But he did direct a superhero commercial. Have you seen Gaghan's Verizon commercial that ties-in with the Dark Knight? You can see it at
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http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html
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but his artwork lacks.
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Needs to worry about his fucking Nazi movie instead of some stupid fucking superhero book brought to you by a man who draws like a spastic colon turned human.
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this is a match made in hell
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Hilarity ensues!
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Really? Rob Lefield? He gave us Deadpool, but not even the good Deadpool, early unfunny Deadpool. He also decided that women don't need stomachs and people don't need bones in there feet. Not for me. Not for me.
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It's Man of Steel, a Superman Returns sequel. It's labeled as a first draft, dated to just a few days ago.
Is it real? No. How do I know this? Because I wrote it :P
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i love that rob liefeld's company after Image was called "awesome comics."
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they will make anything
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Jul 22, 2008 10:14:46 PM CDT
Bullshit if they don't bring Singer back for new Superman
by themcflyfarm
It wouldn't have made more money whether it was directed by Bryan Singer or Bryant Gumbel. The only difference is that a Superman movie directed by anyone else probably wouldn't have been as critically acclaimed. People like to bitch and moan that their wasn't enough action, and Singer is fully aware of that critique.
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Well, at least this will take Singer off the next Superman almost for certain.
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Millar is the one that should reboot Superman! Singer should not be allowed near any other famous superheroes from now on! He screwed it big time, now move on you fuckwad!
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Now that's a movie that would love to see Singer do! Come on people! How much more can he fuck up that movie that the first didn't do itself?! You all know you want to see this shit!
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That is the basic premise, say with a few changes.
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Seriously, this guy's ADD is going to stop his career cold, or did it already? First he leaves X-Men to make a shot-for-shot remake of Superman, and wasn't he supposed to do Logan's Run and Mayor of Castro Street? Not to mention Superman 2. What else was there? Someone please do a Milton and give this guy an office in the basement, if you ever want to see something made in the next ten years that is.
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thank you for further strengthening my argument.
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...but I was carried away by the special effects in "Superman Returns;" especially when compared to the fairly cartoonish and flashy nature of Singer's "X-Men" films (except for that great establishing sequence of Wolverin's and the beauty when he shotgun barrel cleaved is in two and the shot spills out), "Superman Returns" felt like an entirely different director was helming it. The colour pallete has such depth and I strongly doubt we'll ever seen a cape work as well as Superman's in that movie. And that was what got me, the heightening of the normal universe with its almost nostalgic sheen of light draped over everything or bathed in an eerie cold to the point that the special effects felt completely natural to the film. I think that its serious approach to effects work will be appreciated more in the future than during its initial release with all its expectations. Such a beautiful film to look at; the shot of Superman monitoring the world from space could be a painting in a museum. Movie had a great scope to it; but it also had that fuckin' "Clown Killer" serial murderer as a henchmen which just seemed really distasteful in that context and very jarring. That type of layering works to soul-chilling effect in "Heat" with Waingro but in "Superman Returns?" Hell no. Felt like a breach of contract with the audience.
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was a complete wasted and a travesty to the character. Singer understood Xmen for the most part, but He had no idea on how to do Superman, they should revamp it, kinda like Hulk.
SR was a crappy quasi sequel to the
chris reeve movies, it made no sense. rather than starting over like they did with batman, they just sort of continued the old franchise, but not really. they couldn't establish Supe's strenght, he struggles to stop a plane, but then has no trouble lifting an entire continent, then they gave him a kid, which has never happened in his 60+ years in comics. Fuck SR, we need a movie that understands and does justice to the classic character. -
Producers at ascendant are pushing to get a wider release. But if 50 theaters is all we get I sure as hell hope one of them is close enough to where I live, but it will be doubtful considering I'm in the middle of nowhere with the nearest large center is a six hour drive away... and even that city probably wouldn't get it if it's only on 50 screens. At the very least one of them better be in Halifax so all the people who were actually in it and working on it can go see it.
Barring that, The Locarno Film festival in Switzerland is playing the movie in roughly two weeks. Hopefully it gets some great buzz. It's not in contention but it will be up for a peoples choice award for it's "premiere" as well as some other Variety sponsored award. And then it will be playing throughout the month at the Fantasy Filmfest in Germany... I can't remember if I stated it or not, but the actual cost of the film is more than just slightly north of 30mil. It's "official" budget is about 40 million (originaly it was closer to 32million) and final costs are rumored to be about 47 million dollars. -
WoW! How the hell did I post this to the superman talkback?
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GROOOAAN. i just noticed he's doing the graphic novel. Two slackers with biceps bigger than trash cans is more like it.
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Then Singer doesn't deserve a second chance at Superman. A Liefeld idea? Oof.
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Makin' a movie with Cruise, now a movie based on something Rob Liefeld created.. Rob Liefeld!!! Oh well..
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Will the Evil Superhero have huge gauntlets over his wrists to hide the fact that Leifeld can't draw them to save his life?
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...that is all
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Jul 22, 2008 11:15:05 PM CDT
It's not an "unproduced graphic novel", it's a movie pitch.
by flim springfield
It's bad enough so many comics are put out solely to sell the movie rights, it's even worse when they can't even be bothered to make the comic.
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the comic is(was?) about team chemistry.
that first x movie should have been the classic team. colossus, nightcrawler, storm, rogue, wolverine, and a good cyclops.
instead we had shitty cyclops and boring jean grey.
his only good call was mystique. she was great in that movie.
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that guy is still alive?
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IS A HACK ALL HIS COMICS WAS CRAP A$$ KNOCK OFF OF BETTER COMICS I CAN'T BELEVE THEIR STILL FANS OF THIS HACK.. ONE OF THE WONDERS OF WORLD I GUESS
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Gotta say...SUPERMAN RETURNS sucked and I don't think ANYTHING Liefeld has drawn has NOT sucked.
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Jul 23, 2008 12:05:47 AM CDT
Thank goodness history is not being kind to Superman Returns
by cotton mcknight
X men 3 is largely being forgotten, as it should be, but Superman Returns is the one that is being regarded as a colossal failure. GOOD. I agree about some of the special effects and the ONLY thing cool about the whole movie was the idea of Superman monitoring the earth from above. That was just awesome. But he even fucked that up by taking Lois up there with him (how did she breathe, anyway?) and bitching about how everyone needs him. The movie was an abomination. Just an absolute abomination.
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Just keep him away from anything important..he got lucky with X2 but showed his true colors with Supes.
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it's pretty ignorant to say that because they are gay they molest kids.
gay men are into men.
pedophiles are into kids.
now, if i were to see what you described, i would run away...because i am a man, and all gay men rape other men.
i read that in the bible.
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It's amazing how Singer killed all the goodwill he built up by just one collossal clusterfuck of SR. I agree that it is good that SR is widely regarded as a failure..almsot as bad as the Matrix sequels. The script was the worst thing about it...Superman having a son, being a stalker, having a miscast Lois Lane, having a miscast Lex Luthor, and back to having a shitty script. Singer just fucked up good. You have to blame the producers and WB for greenlighting the script but they knew it would be easy money and the film surely did make a profit. But we can take some satisfaction in that we all agree that it is POS>
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Bryan Singer got the chance to tell his Superman story and it sucked. Let someone else reboot the franchise...someone named Mark Millar? And for what its worth,I think the modern day Superman story is done. I'd pay cashy money to see a Silver Age Superman movie complete with Krpyto,giant monkeys,and Brainiac shrinking cities and putting them in bottles.
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That if Supes just tries hard enough, kryptonite won't effect him. It's all in his head I guess Arrrgh. Bonus arrgh, Lois Lane tells him that she doesn't need saving the day AFTER he catches her plane before it crashes. How I wanted him to say" Well, you needed saving yesterday, Lois..." I can't take it!
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with Liefeld.
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Well, isn't it?
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Great....another leaden, soulless, charmless film from the once (and future?) savior Singer.
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Just wondering...
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I think Singer ruined what could have been a great new series of Superman movies...I think he had a long term vision of where the character was going, but the initial story was so bad, he crashed and burned. Anyone of us could write a better movie - unfortunately, we don't have the contacts to do so - but a better movie could and should have been made. Still - why the gay hatred? Are the majority of talkbackers Nazis? Does prejudice really have a place on a website about loving film? Seriously - thousands, millions died in the first and second world wars so you could have the freedom you enjoy - and you repay them with prejudice caused by fear and intolerance. I wish we did have a real Superman...his example could lead us all...on this story: sounds like a good story, and if done right (I still have hope for Singer) will be interesting to see...and here's something controversial...Watchmen - overrated. If you havent read it - read it - and then sit back and ask yourself - Is it really that good? It's good yes, but is it the Holy Grail? I'd say...no.
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You know, when I was 10, I read Dracula. Thought it was crap. I also read Animal Farm that year. I thought it was very silly.
Do you know what the problem was? Those books were far deeper than I was capable of appreciating. When I was older, and had a broader range of life experience, as well as a knowledge of history and society, I realised why those books are the awesome classics they are.
I respectfully suggest Watchmen is just so frakkin deep for a graphic novel, it's depth currently eludes you.
If 99% of its readers say it's the pinnacle of graphic novels, and you say it isn't, maybe the fault lies not with the stars dear Brutus, but in your self? -
You know, when I was 10, I read Dracula. Thought it was crap. I also read Animal Farm that year. I thought it was very silly.
Do you know what the problem was? Those books were far deeper than I was capable of appreciating. When I was older, and had a broader range of life experience, as well as a knowledge of history and society, I realised why those books are the awesome classics they are.
I respectfully suggest Watchmen is just so frakkin deep for a graphic novel, it's depth currently eludes you.
If 99% of its readers say it's the pinnacle of graphic novels, and you say it isn't, maybe the fault lies not with the stars dear Brutus, but in your self? -
i never thought you could take the Superman suit and make it gayer, but lo and behold Singer succeeded. the red underwear is at ass-crack level, explicitly making the crotch region look so pronounced that the rest of the suit revolved around it not to mention camera focusing on it. just dire...
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When given the right script. Give him a better writer for Superman Returns sequel and let's make this fucking thing already!
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A cinematic abomination.
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I was right with you until you ued the word 'frakkin'.
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for liefeld effect.
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I know all sorts of shit were going down at Fox, but really, Singer and his agent/manager should have persevered. If he'd done X3, the X-men Trilogy would have been something of a gold standard. 1 is damn entertaining, 2 is premium quality blockbuster entertainment, and 3 had all the promise of capping even that. DAMN!!!!
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Is anyone monitoring this? Shame on you.
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Ok, so I exagerrated. but after seeing the abomination that was Superman returns (AKA Super deadbeat stalker dad.)Singer needs to take extended time off to get his shit together before doing another franchise based film.(what the fuck was he thinking?)
As for Rob, Youngblood was shit as with most of Image comics during that era Wildcats,Cyberforce and Spawn are ripoffs of Marvel's stuff.Atleast Spawn had a excellent Animated HBO series.(can't say the same for Lee's Wildcats cartoon)Not interested!! -
No excuses sir. I just can't use that word legitimately.
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Worst team-up in superhero history since Dazzler and Spider-Girl. Or Favreau and Downey. A resounding "Meh" echoes in my cubicle.
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Pick on Singer for being a commitaphobe with projects, not for his sexuality. And as for Christian Bale beating his mom I Am Batman, I think he's just taking the blame for Harvey. Seriously though, I don't think it's anything to villify him over until we know the facts. Josh Brolin has a history of abuse toward the awesomely hot Diane Lane and this site LOVES the crap out of him. I read Bale shoved "someone" (don't know who) over a long-standing family feud, so his mom and sister called the cops. I seriously doubt he went Patrick Bateman on anyone.
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It's real classy leaving messages that basically consist of "Bryan Singer is a coke snorting gay paedophile". Really does a lot for this site's image.
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Jul 23, 2008 5:36:16 AM CDT
I'm curious as to why gayists & homophobes are always preoccupie
by yeti
Just a thought y'all.
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People who are preoccupied with what Singer does (or does not) engage in are obviously excited at the idea or they wouldn't go on about it. 'Nuff said.
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Poseur.
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this movie sounds weak. He's too talented to waste his time on this.
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It was called TAPEHEADS but it didn't have superheoes. Let's get into trouble, baby.
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what a convergence of shit.
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it could mean Singer isn't doing Superman again (I meant for that to sound gay).
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you know he did.
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Just like Bryan Singer
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not "actually is evil." ... I'm just sayin'.
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It could get old real fast. Please don't run this genre into the ground. I know you will Hollywood.
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why they aren't putting out there comic book characters that already have a built in audience. like wonder woman, green lantern, aquaman etc at least people know who the fuck they are.if you really want to bring b list superheros then do so. hancock was bullshit, and so will this be. god damm it, how many times do i have to say it. iron fist. the comic book series out now has had one of the finest comic book arcs i've read IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST!IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST!IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST!IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST!IRON FIST! IRON FIST! IRON FIST!
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He´s cooking a can of lowcrap sucking waste of paper...
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He needs to step away from the camera, lay off the coke and adolescent malaysian boy prostitutes, and check into rehab. He used to be able to make good movies, and then, he threw a queeny star-fit, walked off of X3, and immediately went about turning Superman into a creepy stalker metrosexual. Look, Bryan, if I may call you that, you didn't have to make a Superman movie to get off, you could have hired some guy to dress up like Superman and let him mount you. Oh, and for the record, the Donner movies (and their multiple ever-worsening sequels) all SUCKED ASS, and not in the way you like. Yeah, Reeves was good, yeah there is a good soundtrack, hell I'd even go so far as to say the art direction on Krypton was good. Everything else? Embarrassingly bad.
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Glad I'm not the only one that hates that guy. He is perhaps the worst comic book artist ever farted from a womb. He took what was bad about McFarlane and made it his own. BTW, McFarlane sucks too.
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Ugly, gay, AND shitty. Rob Liefeld is a hack, and Bryan Singer needs to step back and work with someone with talent.
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Jul 23, 2008 8:49:13 AM CDT
BIG difference between "assault" and "assault & battery", people
by jdanielp
I don't know the facts of what happened. However, I do know that in legal terms, assault does not include a physical attack.
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i can understand not digging mcfarlane's style...some of it was atrocious.
but, he at least understood dynamism, SOME anatomy (took liberties with spiderman), composition, shadow, and architechture. his comics usually had a couple of pages that were original.
rob liefeld is lazy and unoriginal.
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I'll be watching to see how this develops. Will this be live-action yet Pixar-style, in storytelling terms? Or...will it be closer to a real world style, perhaps more in common with the life-like styles of "CLOVERFIELD" (which I have not seen) or "THE DARK KNIGHT"??? I remain curious.
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I thought Hollywood figured out 15 years ago that Rob Liefeld is a douche with no ability to draw feet or develop a premise.
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There's already a comic book about a "Superman" type hero who turns out to be evil. It's called Invincible and it is one of the best superhero comics out there. If they want to make this sort of movie - they should adapt that not some lame-o high concept about a bunch of clowns who go around filming superheroes.
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SR had a number of great moments - particularly the plane rescue - Superman wasn't struggling to lift a plane - he was struggling to do it without killing everyone on board from the sudden deceleration.
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Doom Patrol is a classic DC comic made great by Grant Morrisson in the 80s and early 90s. Doom FORCE is the parody of Liefeld comics, and it is indeed hilarious.
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I agree with you about that. I've only seen the movie once, but the shot that sticks with me most is when Superman is lifting that giant hunk of kryptonite, and we get the super wide shot of it passing through the clouds. They give way just so and there is lightning between the kryptonite and the clouds, and everything's so big you can't even see Superman. The sense of scale is so perfect, it almost gives you vertigo if seen in good enough quality. Not exactly vertigo but sort of that sick feeling you get when you see a force of nature or something so out of scale like ten thousand crows lined up for miles on the power lines. So although I hate Superman Returns for being so dumb, especially the kid thing, I do agree with you that it has some of the best special effects ever created.
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Your comment was much better written than mine. I can hardly understand what I just typed.
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its not Captain America. Its one of his many many complete rip-offs. That character is called "Fighting American" and in a lawsuit settlement with DC, it was agreed that this guy would not be permitted to throw his shield around.
according to the wiki -
...getting the name wrong of a one shot comic from over a decade ago makes me a poser?sorry to have ruined your life.
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Yes, if you can't sort Doom Patrol from Doom Force, you are a poser and would totally lose on Rob Liefeld Jeopardy.
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Is that he is a really nice guy. I used to hate him , hate him, hate him and then I met him. He was so nice that it made me feel bad for badmouthing him all those years.
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*scratches butt*
*eats boogers*
*breathes through mouth*
*can't tell the difference between alan moore and someone making fun of rob liefeld*
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Wonder Twin powers--ACTIVATE!!
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Every other superhero movie idea seems hollow. Avengers gets my a little excited, but thats about it.
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For the next Superman movie! I'd love to see his take, well on any superhero movie, but especially Supes
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...I thought you were gonna say it's about an overratted director who totally blew what was formerly thought by all to be a can't-miss film version of a classic superhero.
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perfect update of the Donner/Reeve style (though i didnt dig the kid that much..and lois could have been cast better)..SINGER MAKE PART 2!!!
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Stop fucking around and give us another Superman movie. And for the love of Jeebus, please don't make friends with the likes of Rob Liefeld. What next? Todd Mc-Fuckin-Farlane? Wanker.
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I initially like him and made some money selling my old "New Mutants" that he pencilled, but he really went bad.
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...here's what you do. (Hey Hollywood, call me...)
You do Supreme. The Superman-esque character. Do what they did with Superman Returns, where he has to leave. But when he comes back, he's Will Ferrell. See? Leaves Supreme, comes back Will Ferrell. Genius. -
Apparently many of you are too young or too dense to appreciate a
movie that doesnt resort to the usual action devices and hollow
gimmicks to propel it's story. Superman films can be the most rewarding not because they are "dark" or cutting edge but because they are timeless and are a greater metaphor for the human experience. Singer understands this and while not perfect by a long shot SR has more soul and substance than the countless forgetable attempts to portray comic characters over the last decade. Singer could have hit all the predictable marks to satisfy a mainstream audience but it would have been at the expense of the characters. I really enjoy the protrayal of Superman as troubled and somewhat dysfunctional as he no doubt would be in reality. This was a film that refused to be merely an action spectical but challenged preconceptions and made the veiwer actually consider things. Haveing said that I fully understand that the second one "which Singer MUST do" will have all that and more so you dopes can reevaulate this film. I think we've seen how much these properties can improve with a second film as Dark Knight shows us, it's time to stop the hate and let Singer finish what he started! -
...that his artwork is really just ultrastylized, like that of Kirby or Sienkiewicz or McKean (or, in the fine art world, Picass). I say that isn't true, because those guys are actually aware of the rules that they're breaking. I suppose someone could make the argument that Liefeld is the equivalent of an outsider artist or folk artist, and that his lack of any formal training creates an entirely new perspective on art, like a comic book version of Grandma Moses, but that someone will not be me.
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Picass sounds like an... um... something not so good.
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Okay, again, there hasn't been any gay prejudice in this thread: Prejudice is unreasoned. "Prejudging" before you know anything about it. As has been said, there IS reason to bag on the cinemtic takes of comicbook heroes by gays: Batman & Robin with its fetish nipple and rubber butts, neon everywhere, and Superman Returns with its anal rape scene, superthong, and casting of its lead not based on talent or screen presence, but STRICTLY because he had gay sex with the director!!!! These are all actual LEGITIMATE REASONS for the gay hate in regards to superhero movies. This is hate based on fact, not PREjudging before the fact. And in response to your WWII guys fighting for my rights - they fought for my freedom; freedom of speech, freedom to have an opinion. I am repaying them by excercising it, amidst other people whining that opinions they don't like ought be "censored." You don't have to like, or agree with my opinion, but don't mischarecterize my "hate" as "prejudice" when it's not; its based on legitimate reasons. And don't label me as intolerant just because I have an opinion you don't like. DO label those as intolerant who are suggesting censorship of ideas, just because they don't agree with them.
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Not gay bashing, here. I used gay above in the way that Joel Schumacher is gay, and made a GAY fucking Batman movie. He made a GAY Vampire movie, couldn't help it. Watch Lost Boys and tell me the greased up ponytail dude is shirtless because that reflects the reality of California boardwalk life. Greased dude playing a sax? Bet you the director's gay. But when you have a pride parade, and Superman and Batman start making out, you can say, 'Hey, I'm pretty sure Supes and Batman aren't meant to be gay icons in the comics. Here they are being gay.' Fuck you if you're gay and can't stand it when someone says you're fucking gay.
I'm tired of having people say shit like 'How dare you call something gay, it's like saying the n-word or using religious slurs!' when describing something that looks like it should be on the West Hollywood Pride Parade's Grand Marshall float.Superman wears undies outside of his pants, and that's lame. But when you make them Hanes 'Her Way' boy cut briefs, that's fucking gay. And Superman's costume in Returns is him with tight vinyl clothes, boy cut briefs, a leather fucking cape, and a spit curl. That's guess what? FUCKING GAY! You gonna be gay? Fine! Love cock all day long, and have a cock-chug marathon! But if you tape it, and someone shows it, and I happen to see it, don't get fucking offended when I say 'Wow! Now THAT is fucking GAY.'Returns was the overhanded expression of Singer's homosexual aesthetic, he felt he had two hits under his belt, fuck art, let's dance. I say, go on with your bad self, but hey, buddy, you made Superman gay.Liefeld sucks as an artist, and as a storyteller. He's a good premise guy, but shit, his fucking 'art' is painful to fucking watch.This movie will be gay, because Singer doesn't have any people telling him NO, people will think this is gay. And it will be shitty because Rob Liefeld, since his Levis commercial has been shitty. Shitty and gay. Not gay bashing, but telling it like it is. Also, gays should be allowed to marry, and as such let me be the first to congratulate Mssrs. Singer and Liefeld. Hee hee hee! (I love juvenile humor.) -
Jul 23, 2008 12:39:01 PM CDT
Oh, tonytodd, gayness makes you really uncomfortable, huh?
by rev_skarekroe
Hey, I'm with you. I don't want any homoerotic overtones when I'm watching a story about strapping, muscular men at the height of physical perfection, wearing tight, tight clothing perfectly contoured to show off every rippling muscular curve. If I'm watching a story about strong, healthy guys heaving and sweating as they show off their athletic prowess by wrestling each other into submission, it better be totally straight, like me. And don't put any of that icky "love interest" stuff in my superhero movies either! Females just get in the way of all that killer man-on-man heterosexual superhero action.And hey, eggsalad, you read my post or you wouldn't have responded to it. So joke's on you, asshole.
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Jul 23, 2008 12:41:33 PM CDT
So does this mean Millar gets his shot at Supes?
by the winged doucheman
With Director X?
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DOES know a good, smart superhero movie when they get it. That's why TDK has received such praise. And it's also why Supes Returns flamed out fast. I think people would have accepted a "modern" story, but the stalker-Supes with bastard child thing was a bit much. Plus, the whole Lex-real estate scheme-was a rehash
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I love the people on Singer threads who say shit like "Just because he's gay and makes gay-ass movies, doesn't mean he makes gay-ass movies because he is gay!" "His sexual orientation has nothing to do with anything."Yeah, it kind of does. If Ian McKellan played every role like he was hungry for man parts, that'd make his gayness matter as well. He doesn't though, so it doesn't.
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And when it does come out, all the actors will be wearing nothing but hatch lines and pointy-toed shoes.
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Honestly X-men did good because every comic fan wanted to see Wolverine and gang on the Big screen, period. I still have not seen anything to warrant this guy as being ground breaking. Hes just a director, not the worst but far and away from the best by any means. Now he might be good directing a drama flick, but action related I would pass him quickly.
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Reread my own post to see what I had said - and the stress of my finals shows... there's one moment where I talk about Wolverine's establishing scene and I really jumble my words, almost in a dyslexic way; I don't have dyslexia but when I'm stressed my meaning is lost between the thought and the mechanics, like they are swimming around. *NOW BACK TO REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING* The use of the word "vertigo" is perfect; that the size and scope of nature can be so bewildering that it becomes the moment takes on a surreal quality. Almost as if you are forced to look outside of your own size and re-evaluate a vastly expanded view of the world: an enlightened belittlement. And birds will do it; there's a great YOUTUBE video to Broken Social Scene's "Lover's Spit" with these great undulating masses of starlings collecting from all over New York and New Jersey. Mesmerizing. Singer's vision in "Superman Returns" gave us the type of images that don't come around very often in most films, much less commercial ones. I'm glad you appreciated it; it's so good to be able to take something like that out of a movie. That experience.
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And enjoy the taste of it. Yes, Singer can frame a pretty shot, but the movie was leaden, dull, overlong, overblown, and pretentious wankery. And he's supposed to be Superman, not a deadbeat dad. Next director, please.
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Jul 23, 2008 2:07:55 PM CDT
I hope it's really long and absolutely NOTHING happens..........
by crackerfarmboy
Then it'd be a true Singer/WB superhero movie.
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Singer's Superman movie really did suck. Not because it was gay. You did a great job dissecting the comments by tonytodd et. al. So thanks for putting those jerks in their place.
Singer certainly doesn't suck because he's gay. It is unfortunate that he is a sucky director who doesn't like comics but has a lot of power and happens to be gay. His superhero movies are weak because he doesn't appreciate the art form. -
Only a homo would think Superman needs a baby to make the comeback movie interesting...Or that his biggest enemy would be his inner-demons... Or a friggin ISLAND. I liked that movie originally too, after multiple viewings aka me turning it off a few minutes in, I don't like it at all.
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Should be one of the following.
Peter Weir
Edward Zwick
Ridley Scott -
It's the perfect storm of comic SUCK! Please, Bryan . . . you're actually a very talented guy. Stop making superhero movies. Stop making superhero-THEMED movies. X-Men was an insult. X2 was a very good sequel to an insult. Superman Returns was ass. Stay the hell away from Rob Liefeld. Make some personal movies again.
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Jul 23, 2008 5:33:06 PM CDT
You know what it is? It's that we are finally getting GOOD movie
by cotton mcknight
Singer is from the era that gave us the hulk and other terrible comic book movies. Now we have Hellboy 2, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, and the Incredible Hulk. Finally, we are seeing the comic book live up to its full potential on the silver screen. I don't deny that Singer paved the way, but in retrospect (and relative to the movies out now), the X-Men movies were below par. Good, not great. And great is what we expect now.
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Jul 23, 2008 5:33:13 PM CDT
You know what it is? It's that we are finally getting GOOD movie
by cotton mcknight
Singer is from the era that gave us the hulk and other terrible comic book movies. Now we have Hellboy 2, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, and the Incredible Hulk. Finally, we are seeing the comic book live up to its full potential on the silver screen. I don't deny that Singer paved the way, but in retrospect (and relative to the movies out now), the X-Men movies were below par. Good, not great. And great is what we expect now.
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Blade started
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All this gay hate coming from people who say "no, you're intolerant because you don't want me to express my homophobia a.k.a. my opinion" and "those soldiers died in WWII so I could gay bash" just makes me shit. Haha. Whining about the right to EXPRESS their opinion?! Who here thinks they would express these opinions if Talk Back was a PUBLIC FORUM where we could put faces to the gay bashing? You bet your ass they wouldn't, because their face wouldn't be planted before the privacy of a computer, Cheeto crumbs in their prepubescent goatees, a copy of Playgirl on standby. I say that because of this study LINK: http://tinyurl.com/66k8ao which finds that most homophobes actually have repressed homosexual feelings, so they act macho or "gay bash" to cover it up. You don't need a study to tell you that, but it's better than conjecture. Good day. PS - Singer is still a commitaphobic hack.
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Okay skarekroe, I get it: ANY depiction of masculinity to you is gay. You are only capable of seeing everything as gay through your little gay lens, so, yeah, I guess the suggestion that a heaping dose of gaydom can actually ruin a movie because it has no place there is a little upsetting for you and just impossible to comprehend.
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blaming the sexual orientation of a director as reason for a movie sucking is completely ignorant and has no ground whatsoever. I suppose if Truman Capote or Tennessee Williams had been more straight they would have had less impact? Oh wait, their literary work is incredible. As is Ernest Hemingway's, Kurt Vonnegut Jr's and George Orwell's. I suppose if James Dean had been more openly heterosexual he would have been a better actor? Oh wait, he was only in three films and his work has made an impact on generations. The point is, all kinds of people are capable of incredible, or less than credible work. The choices they make in terms of sexuality usually never directly affect their work, unless its impact drives them to prove others wrong. This being said, I did not enjoy Superman Returns as much upon a second viewing. Not because I knew Bryan Singer was gay, but because the choices he made regarding the project were not ones I agreed with (i.e. the son). Also, the stereotypical "gay" traits really have no standing in today's culture. Not every homosexual man is flamboyant or would choose to, say emphasize the crotch of a superhero's costume. The decision could have just as easily been made by an especially eclectic heterosexual costume designer who felt it would give the suit a modern touch, which is in fact, exactly what happened. Some of the stuff you people are saying is so ridiculous and without grounds or actual fact that it baffles me.
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Singer is overrated. The X-Men movies were okay. Not great like they could have been. And Superman Returns is the worst super hero besides the FF. Seriously, overly sentimental bullshit.
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All ya gotts say. A movie based on a comic created by a hack can't help but be a piece of shit. Let's hope they don't go looking for women that look as fugly as the ones that guy draws.Oh and we get to look forward to heroes with lots of beltbuckles, backpacks, eye patches and utility bags.
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I didn't notice that once. And I mean that. I'm baffled by what some of you have read into his film. Its Harry's sexual intellect and his fairly compulsive nature and not his orientation that dictate his choices of subjects and metaphors. The most that Bryan Singer's ever done is use the SOCIAL context of homosexuality and, quite possibly, his own personal experience to inform his films. Its sexual veracity on trial here; and gender preferences DO NOT govern that. Its individual.
I think one of the problems is that some of ya'll are confusing two very unrelated things.
For example, sexually fetishistic images of women's breasts in film are more often than not a marketing ploy; while I expect that Michael Bay does like breasts A LOT, I think that his ideas about film much more direct their exposure and prominence in his work.
If we were all ignorant of his sexual orientation a lot of these comments would never exist. I accept Singer's sexuality as merely a part of his individuality and to call it the defining trait of his career says more about the talkbacker than about the director; and I am not saying some of these talkbackers are latent homosexuals, merely that these petty and vicious comments detract from appreciating a film for what it is, even if it REALLY SUCKS like some believe. And which may be the case. But because a film sucks doesn't make the director gay; if there's a link for the audience, it's a value association: BAD=GAY. And it is a simple and ignorant one.
*Harry, if you read this, I hope you are not offended. You seem pretty open to discussing that part of your life so I took liberties with using it as an model. You can be a weird, occasionally disconcerting, guy (most of us are, and often use the anonymity of the internets to disguise it) but I find that there's a great degree of courage in your disclosure. You are also one of the most open and friendly icons of the Internet Community. You are a generous fellow - so Thanks. -
Simple and ignorant are pretty much the same thing. EXTRA WORDS!
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I just realize that I basically said the same thing as KungFuHustler. Oops.
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... we're seen a new Christopher McQuarrie script on screen. "The Way of the Gun" is one of the strangest little marvels of 21st Century filmmaking; a turn of the century western. And a great one.
It's indulgent but there's a poetry to that indulgence. It's heedless; a John Keat's drunkeness. Drunken with language and mortality and monumental tragic characters. And one of the most uniquely paced films I've seen. -
Peter Weir, that's pretty inspired. I wonder if it would work.
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no troubles. i personally think some of these guys are gonna need all the help they can get.
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Singer being gay clearly has a thematic effect on all of his work. And when applied to Superman a lot of those themes make sense: being an outsider, desiring a "normal" life like everyone else, getting people to see what you are inside and not judge you because of what you look like, or act like, (or who you decide to sleep with). All of that is ripe fodder for a Superman movie, and I think Singer touched on some of those themes in Superman Returns very well. The Superman suit is a different matter, however. This is one instance where Singer's sexuality clearly overpowered his good sense. The SR suit was clearly the gay fantasy version of the classic suit. Superman's outfit is iconic. It has remained (outside of a few "events" to shake up lagging comic sales) essentially unchanged since the creation of the character. The bikini-cut briefs, the leather cape, the angled belt all had an extremely sexualizing effect on Superman's appearance in the film. And I'm sorry, but it made Superman look like a gay man going to a costume party, and not a straight man going out to defend innocents. There's nothing wrong with a gay lifestyle - but there is something wrong with so sexualizing Superman's appearance that it becomes a distraction to the audience. It's as if someone decided to make a Wonder Woman movie and replaced her red and gold armored bustier with straight lingerie. It could be argued that the classic Wonder Woman outfit is pretty much lingerie anyways, right? So why not just drop that neckline even lower, push the cleavage up to her neck, and put a little pattern on it that subliminally reminds you of lace? Pretty much the same, right? Wrong. There's a line you can cross there where her look goes from being slightly titillating to flat-out overtly sexualized. It's a line that shouldn't be crossed because as I said, it becomes a distraction.
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He's brilliant. I would love to see his take on The Man of Steel. Unfortunately, if he were to make a Superman movie, all the geeks would complain that "it's really long and absolutely nothing happens". Or maybe it's only okay when he makes subtle character-driven movies, but not when Singer does it? Fuck, now I wanna watch Master and Commander again.
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was to make it seem like an alien fabric. LEATHER! Never thought of it like that. Still don't, but it is funny.
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I'll let The Bard explain it for you: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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...I didn't actually find Superman Returns particularly "gay" at all. Flawed, yes, but for reasons entirely unrelated to sexuality.
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And man, it is GAY. Also, STUPID. The whole time I'm wathing it all I can think if "They spent nearly $300 million to make Superman look like a fucking dickhead!?"
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