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‘In The Wake Of Tragedy Two Families Rise … ’ A First Promo For The GALACTICA Spinoff CAPRICA!!
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A promo for “Caprica,” the “Battlestar Galactica” prequel movie focusing on the “creation” of the Cylons, is online at SciFiWire.com here.
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Keeping fingers crossed
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Not up to BSG standards - at least not in that teaser.
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...I like the non-techie look of it. And did I see actual nudity in that trailer?
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That makes me worry this will have nudity and violence instead of solid acting. It could be the Basic Instinct 2 of the BSG universe.
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...can you please connect me to the Continuity Police?
The first Cylons were skinjobs? Seriously, WTF? -
That did not look very good at all?! Just a teaser I know, but it looked kinda sloppy in a Strange Days way.
I thought that the Skin Jobs were what the toaster Cylons evolved into? From this teaser, now they started out as skin jobs? Hmmm... I have a bad feeling about this. For some reason prequels seldom work for me. -
Sorry, no. Not to mention, the fuckers have all the time in the world to do a Caprica spinoff, but they're waiting until JANUARY to give us the last BSG eps? Fuck them.
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Maybe the cylons evolved into skinjobs...then needed help making more/better models and convinced humans to start making skinjobs by playing up the "resurrecting a dead relative" factor....when that plan didn't work out too well they decided to nuke the project along with the humans. best i can do at this point...
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So I guess they didn't take it "straight to series"????
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A Ron Moore series starring Esai Morales (who was one of the dying Jericho's bright spots), Eric Stoltz, and the whore from Deadwood. Sounds good to me.
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Looks much more in line with SciFi's mantra of anti-quality than with the BSG that challenged their status quo. Feels like we'll be watching Anakin build 3PO, with all that implies. Just Focus on sticking the BSG landing, guys, and please get this out of our face.
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Those looked like X-FILES out-takes from when that was still on TV. In other words, that didn't really strike me as looking overly futuristic or even stylized to look like an alternate reality. Zzzzz.
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Jul 22, 2008 2:57:57 AM CDT
In fair Caprica, where we lay our scene/Two families alike in di
by newc0253
actually that looks pretty damn good.
admittedly, if i didn't know it was linked to BSG, it'd be pretty hard to recognise it from the promo & it'd normally hard to get excited for anything on the Sci Fi channel these days but knowing its connection to BSG makes a lotta stuff in that trailer that pretty frakking cool, especially the reveal of the Adama family name.
I'm gonna guess on the basis of the teaser that the Cylons were originally built as human and got downgraded to standard toaster appearance to make the humans feel more comfortable around them.
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there i said it.
seriously, why the problem with the Cylons originally being built as skinjobs.
Remember on St:TNG with Lore and his use of colloquial speech? How Data was made more socially awkward to make the other colonists feel at ease, because Lore freaked them out?
no?
well Ron Moore does.
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Jesus , no GALACTICA fan can take this seriously. And you just know that now they have to retcon the finale to fit this crap. I don't have high hopes we're going to get a good ending to Galactica.
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It's looked like a cheap whore, which I guess, is really.
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If I remember the preview that I read on here a few months ago correctly, I think that the series starts with the daughter (and son?) from each of the two families being resurrected as skinjobs...the rest of the series will deal with society's reception of them and the demand for more and more of the Cylons.
I think the 'toaster' models will be either be (a) created by the Cylons themselves as a cheap and quick way of duplicating an army of liberation (maybe its harder to create a skinjob than a toaster? makes sense or (b) the toaster models are adopted by the Colonies as a slave race / army which are then subverted by the skinjobs.
Either way, I'm hopeful. I love the look - which is retro from the BSG era perspective - and based on Ron Moore's record I'm sure it's gonna rock. Maybe not in a space fighter / explosion-y way but in a more West Wing / The Wire dram-y way.
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They didn't know about the Skinjobs then till the events of the Mini? Good luck with rationalizing that one...
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they should re-cut a new trailer, this one just doesnt make the grade
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Skinjobs...before the miniseries? The cylons start out as skinjobs not toasters?? what the fuck are they playing at. forget this, unless it gets REALLY good fucking reviews im not watching it. learned my lesson with the star wars prequels.
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This looks kind of boring, at least compared to BSG. And the skinjob factor makes zero sense.
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Jul 22, 2008 5:44:36 AM CDT
"They didn't know about the Skinjobs then till the events of the
by newc0253
Jesus, ye of little fucking faith.
Has it occured to you that maybe the skinjobs were kept, like, y'know, a *secret*?
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sounds a bit like EJO too...
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Maybe the retcon goes like this:1. AI was created. It was tested by putting it into genetically engineered humanoids.2. Eventually, this secret project was shut down for some reason.3. The Cylon toaster models were created by other factions to serve as foot soldiers in a war against the Capricans. A rudimentary version of this AI was stolen and used to run the "soul" of the Cylon toasters. 4. But this AI technology caused the Cylons to become more self-aware and questioning of their human masters. They eventually rebelled and refused to fight the inter-Colonial wars.5. The Cylons went away and created humanoid versions of themselves, in an effort to re-discover their true origins.6. The events of the BSG mini-series and series follows.
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I like the tone this sets. The quiet creation of an artificial life to alleviate the horror of losing a child, questioned and examined. Depending on how deeply it's written, this could be really good. I like the actors and the premise. Different from BSG, yes, but potentially just as gripping.
Plus, the story of how the Cylons came into being? A presentation of the Twelve Colonies and their struggles before the Holocaust?
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i like bsg. i used to love it, but really most of the seasons have stretched the storyline with unnecessary standalone episodes and plot lines. i used to love bsg but now the love is gone! i can't wait till the series wraps up and i honestly think they've made the right decisions ending it.(although not the right decision to stretch it out till next year). Caprica seems like an amalgamation of those pointless standalone episodes and plotlines. sorry. it does. there was no need for a spin off here, it's not the buffyverse, the star trek universe or the stargate universe. it's a standalone. this is more lone gunmen then the next generation.
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I think you have something there. And anybody who says this looks bad and you won't watch it is simply fooling themselves as you know we will all watch it - good or bad. Because in the end it is more BSG.
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I agree that making the first Cylon a skin job is stupid. Even if you make up a lame excuse that maybe they kept the skin jobs secret, why would the original cylons everyone knew about be so technologically inferior to the first cylon. They did show the cylons of the Cylon War era to be the Cylons of the 1970s BSG in the Razor movie. Just dumb.
Also, this movie is what 70 years before the events of BSG, but the Adama family is a central figure in the creation of Cylons? That is just plain dumb at the Chewbacca knew Yoda before Luke Skywalker did proportions. Why is the Adama family so central to the entire Cylon saga (creation, war, and ultimate conclusion) when the 12 Colonies had billions of people. -
we wont "all watch it". i think your underestimating just how jaded some fans have become with this property, even the die hard ones. if it sucks people wont watch it because in the end it ISNT BSG, look at the sarah connor chronicles, the sci fi community didnt watch it just because it had terminators in it, how that got renewed when its ratings are even worse than battlestars i dont know
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Here is what this Caprica preview tells me (in anology format): Graystone had the ability to build an iPod off the bat. But the first Cylons that we known up to this point were the handcrancked phonographs from the 1920s era. Ok, even if you believe the BS theories that the original Cylon was deemed to advance and they dumbed down the mass production line. Why make the first units handcranked phonographs when they have the technology to make a CD player or at least an electric record player? It just doesn't make sense no matter how much you want to explain around it.
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I always wondered when they said the Cylons evolved and the skinjobs came next..how? Those metal fuckers couldn't design a human looking robot , they are basically brain dead killers. The skinjobs had to be made by man so this makes sense.
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Grandpa Adama's daughter is the original cylon? I'm not feeling it at all.
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It is not schlocky enough.
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Jul 22, 2008 7:59:12 AM CDT
Why is skinjobs first such a mental challenge for some folk?
by newc0253
70 years ago in the BSG universe ain't the 1920s. They still had spaceships.
Indeed, if the BSG timeline is even vaguely accurate, they've had spaceships since the days of Kobol at least 2000+ years earlier.
And that's not even including the other, older and even more powerful stuff (the technology in the tomb of athena; or the temple of the five).
Remember that the main reason that the original Galactica was so low-tech wasn't necessarily because they didn't have the technology but because that was the most effective way to fight the Cylons back then...
At the end of the day, this is Ron Moore's baby and i highly doubt he'd sign off on anything that didn't fit with his core vision. Some of you are just whining for the sake of it. -
if its meant to be exciting and make me want to watch the show... it kind of failed. Honestly, it looked extremely cheesy and fake.
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I love the mythology and dramatics of BSG and all but I also truly get off on seeing space ships blast the crap out of each other every so often. Without that element this looks boring as hell, not to mention cheap.
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The connection to Galactica seems slim though.
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is because Ron Moore and co never had a frakkin "plan" to begin with on BSG. Any backstory they came up with now has zero chance of 100% integrity with what has gone before.
e.g Six's glowing back from the mini-series.
They have to rely on the audience giving such historical revisionism a pass.
Yet the core of their audience is SF geekdom. The people who invented nit-picking, and took the definition of "canonical" in a way that makes the Council of Nicea look like a bunch of pansies.
Simply put, SF fans won't take to this. Hard core BSG fans might.
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While I agree with what you posted, I feel obligated to point out that I initially felt that way about the Terminator series. (Even the name is retarded.) And the first few episodes were filled with suck and inconsistancies.
But it got WAY better, IMO. And despite the season only lasting 9 episodes, I'd liken it to say season 1 of Buffy, or Star Trek TNG, or SG1.
All of those shows had a marked improvement in quality once they found their feet, and even became cult classics amongst geekdom.
Even if the Buffy series also had a fantastically retarded name. -
was actually written as some generic stand alone sci-fi show and since no one thought it was any good they changed a few names to make it a "BSG" show to try and sucker in the fans losing the main show. Looks like Melrose Place in Space to me. Crap.
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If we go by this Caprica, then the first Cylons were skin-jobs that were almost clones. If thats the case how does that fit in with the development of the toasters? (A'la the Centurions) Not dissing this, it looks interesting, but its almost got a fifties crime drama look to it.
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i agree with you on Buffy TNG and SG1 alright, i know 1st seasons are always hard on a show. its not like i want caprica to suck or anything i love BSG. id just prefer to see a young adama in cylon war 1 or something as opposed to this...thing! but theres nothing that could make me watch Terminator SCC.
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is Bill Adama being the fifth of the final five cylons. If skinjobs came first and his father was somehow involved in their creation, it doesn't really seem like too big of a stretch to think that it could be him, despite the show's producers saying things to the contrary.
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Thank you for arguing my point for me. My anolgy is incorrect, by your point. The first Cylon was a 2008 BMW. But since that line was dangerous, instead of making the production line Cylons a 2008 Honda Civic, they made them horse drawn buggies circa 1812.
My original point is that the Cylons portrayed in the Razor movie were far outdated compared to the current Cylon Centinal models. The technology of Cylon Raiders were also outdated. If technology hasn't changed much in the BSG universe in 70 years according to your argument, that means the technology of the Cylon War era Cylons is actually 100 years outdated compared to the original Cylon if it is a skin job with realistic skin and a soul. -
I didn't expect CAPRICA to be so moody-looking, even though BSG itself is quite dark. The cast looks good, and I'm liking the emphasis on drama over spectacle, here. I'm not going to concern myself with just how closely this ties into GALACTICA; I just want to see a first-rate show. And I say that as a major BSG fan. I have faith in the talent involved in this one. After all, they surprised everyone by making BATTLESTAR GALACTICA one of the greatest TV dramas ever. How many people saw that coming?
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I agree with you. A Cylon War era show would be far better than what this show looks like it is becoming.
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The chick was a hologram and not a skinjob.
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Had no idea Trixie and Atia were in this. I don't expect it to be as interesting as BSG but I'll definitely be watching.
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If it is a holgram, then it is at least plausible. Except the character seems to be corporal in the clip, but who knows if it is scenes prior to her human death.
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...though I'm going in a little skeptical based on what I've read and that preview (honestly *trying* to keep an open mind).
Great cast for sure, and Moore has great concepts (even if the execution is a little weak on occasion).
[giantnameguy] mentioned Melrose Place - I got a tiny bit of the same CW-teen-show vibe. Hopefully there won't be too much focus on the teen angst of being a Cyclone. -
Because I've stuck with BSG for what- FIVE years (?) since they started the miniseries, waiting and waiting patiently in between each extraordinarily long break. Now, instead of giving the fans the last five or so episodes (which have been shot) they spoon-feed us this stuff? Sorry, I'm a little pissed my patience hasn't been rewarded at this point.
It would be like if the creators of "Lost" started a spinoff show during their break instead of focusing on what they're doing now.
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Nice retcon theory - I reread it a couple of times and it works pretty well. Even the back-burner'ing the superior Cylons kind of works in the BSG universe - setting up the sensitivity/fear of technology.
I could also see them simply deciding to "de-humanize" the product (both in aesthetics and self-motivation) to avoid moral issues ("see we didn't create a replacement for people, it's a big shiny robot!").
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yes, the centurions we see in the first Cylon war seem technologically inferior to the centurions in BSG.
but why does that mean that they couldn't have an early skinjob? they already had a prototype hybrid at that point.
maybe the original skinjobs were like the early mainframes, so expensive that only the "five kings of europe" would be able to afford them?
or like the early mobile phones, powered by a battery the size of a suitcase?
maybe when it came time to mass produce them, they put them out toaster-style because that was much easier to replicate?
the truth is, i don't know. but given what we know about the thousands of years of technology in the BSG universe, i don't find it so inherently implausible that i'm gonna spend my time bitching that Ron Moore raped my early thirties... -
Don't know why all the geeks have sand in their vaginas. This could be great!
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If you can't see how badly this fucks with established continuity then you're just plain stupid.
This might be a great show, and I will certainly watch it and give it a go, but this isn't BSG or BSG related by a long shot. -
The skin job in the trailer (assuming it is a skin job and not a hologram) looks to be as advanced as Boomer, Six, and the rest of the current skin jobs. I still don't know how they could have had a skin job as advanced when the centurians were so technologically outdated.
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For me, the drama in BSG is people's responses to life-and-death crises and conflict. CAPRICA doesn't seem like it will have any of that. I hope that when CAPRICA flops, it doesn't take down any chance of a show about the Cylon War.
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I think a Cylon War series is unlikely to happen no matter how Caprica does. I think the costs of doing a war show around BSG universe will cost far more than the SCI-FI channel is willing to spend. I think that is why Moore went with the Caprica series. It looks to be much cheaper than BSG cost the network.
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Skiffy isn't going to pay for a show full of walking and talking toasters every week, so they're going to shit on the continuity to save some bucks.
It's much better to fuck up your entire premise rather then go with practical robots and Cylon suits. -
Jul 22, 2008 12:36:14 PM CDT
"If you can't see how badly this fucks with established continui
by newc0253
It no more fucks with "established continuity" than the revelation that Tigh et al was a Cylon, or that Earth is a radioactive heap.
We somehow "knew" that Cylons were identical, couldn't age, etc.
We also "knew" that Earth was the home of the 13th tribe, fa la la, and not a smoldering wasteland.
So now we apparently "know" (or maybe not, we'll see) that the first Cylon was actually a skinjob and not a chrome model. -
Didn't they give us the basic premise already? Two families involved...One is an AI developer and one is in the robotics business.
The daughters can be resurrected in clones (flesh and bone) not mechanical/cylon beings. No special "powers", just something we can do now with pets (with the added benefit of being able to transfer the "essence" of the daughter into the clone).
In this way we can have the clones running around, people getting into a fuss over the ethics of cloning living beings (like “Do androids dream of electric sheep”) which lead to moving towards mechanical (no ethics involved) robots instead. Unknown to the colonials is that the AI from the clones is installed into the mechanical cylons (either by mistake or intentional), which leads to revolt, self imposed exile and eventual return of the human/cylon
Not sure how more than one season of this can go on. Maybe season 1 ends with the move from clones to toasters. Season 2 ends with full out revolt…etc.
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a few people in here sound like star wars fans after ep1 came out. desperately trying to justify jar jar binks and the metaclorians. sure you can say the first cylon was a skin job but its still goes against everything theyve done so far. its just plain cheap.....also....FUCK JAR JAR! i just remembered how annoying he was, god those fucking ears!!
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While none of the characters at the start of the series was EXPECTING to deal with skin jobs, it did not seem THAT hard for them to quickly accept it once it came to thier attention. Same with Cain on Razor. So it follows that you could claim that the humans were caught flat footed by being infiltrated by skin jobs, but not so much so that they had much trouble believing it once it was brought to their attention in the current series.
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It would make sense dramatically if everyone is opposed to the skinjob tech but then Joseph's Adama's own son dies and he embraces it to resurrect him, in SECRET of course. All the leads in this series get blown to hell and then the Cylon Bill Adama is left on his own not knowing his true frakkin toaster motherfrakker self.
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Actually, it sounds like what you have a problem with is Sci-Fi's scheduling of BSG, which the creators have nothing to do with. Moore and company HAVE focused on BSG...it's just that Sci-fi Channel wants to shelve it for a bit, possibly to add in a few movies ala Razor so they can get some DVD money before the final season. Who knows what's going thru their brains. If anything. Your analogy to Lost creators doing something else doesn't hold up. If ABC was sitting on the final dozen episodes of Lost, and Lindelof went off and got another project going in the meantime...would you be mad at him or ABC????Like I said...naysayers.
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when it was called "A.I."
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Thats weird.
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Look it up. It means people with an overly negative or pessimistic view. Your opinions are formed off the premise of a prequel, and a one minute trailer. If you hate the idea of prequels, as some of you do, then this isn't your cup of tea. But to think that this is going to ruin continuity or be some blight on BSG before you even see it is the very definition of "naysayer." Now, if you're not into family dramas, have no interest in Esai Morales and Eric Stoltz, or just think the trailer was plain awful...well, then you are actually commenting on something that you've seen. But to start hating something because you THINK it will ruin your precious little battlestar galactica, then you're a fucking tool.
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man you totally need to calm down? your all....exploding an shit
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It's not just what I think, we know for a fact that the Cylons were created for slave labor, this is established by both old and new shows, and by supplemental materials such as official books, official magazines, season companions, and interviews etc. They weren't all Centurions/warriors, most of the Cylons were literally toasters and such, robots designed to perform the menial tasks the humans didn't want to do.
But if I'm a "naysayer" for expecting them to tell a story that fits into established continuity rather than rehashing Spielberg's failure A.I. then so be it, I'm a naysayer. -
It may be that the initial cylons were skinjobs - it seems likely hat a human inventor would try to make them as human looking as possible. There may be numerous reasons why skinjobs were "new" in BSG For example, it may be that a negative reaction to human looking synthetic beings caused future generations to be made less human looking. Regardless, if skinjob cylons had not been around for several decades, the BSG crew would still be surprised.
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The point is you are drawing a lot of conclusions rather than actually watching the show and deciding whether it fucks with continuity. Everything you see may fit in somehow, so do not fly off the handle.
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Executor just called me a fucking tool, so pardon me if I "fly off the handle."
All I'm doing is repeating exactly what the show, supplemental materials, and the creators have already established as continuity, specifically the creation and development of the Cylons. Any conclusions I have drawn are based on ESTABLISHED CONTINUITY.
However, the only conclusion I actually have drawn is that this is a retcon of the worst sort, doesn't mean the show won't be great, but this is a huge retcon and it doesn't make sense to suggest it is anything else.
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Jul 22, 2008 3:28:22 PM CDT
So, how long until we get a SG: Atlantis / Caprica crossover?
by turketron
Might as well...
We can have Replicators and Cylons and Skinjobs and Wraith and Goa'uld and Ascended beings all on one show! Come on sci fi! It will help you save money! -
Blah blah blah . . .
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So if the first cylons were skinjobs, does that mean that the general public was aware of them? Get a grip here, people. You're trying to draw absolute conclusions based on incomplete information.
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...the word RISE from any catch phrase or byline or title from all conematic endeavors. Consider it a warning.
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This is exactly what Asimov said in "Robots and Empire," though in that case the metallic robots came first. Humans just weren't comfortable around beings they could see as competition. Since the program needed public support to succeed, anthropomorphic 'bots were pulled out of society and used only in secret.
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I vote "boo"
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It IS the scheduling I have a problem with. But, SciFi(NBC Universal?) is making the money from BSG, will also be airing "Caprica" and therefore I won't invest time in a show that will likely be handled the same way.
My analogy of "Lost" stands. I wouldn't support a spinoff if they haven't finished the current storyline. Which was my problem initially with taking the show off the island. Although I have to admit it was handled well.
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They took perhaps the DULLEST part of the "Galactica" mythos to turn into the series. Why not the first Cylon War, as seen in "Razor"? How about a show about the creation of the colonies? A group of resistance fighters on Caprica AFTER the fallout (as seen in a little of season 2)? There are tons of ideas better than a soap-opera about the first Cylons.
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That trailer was weak. It seemed very low budget, bland for the majority of it...Not nearly as important as it should have been.
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I know the original battlestar came before terminator, but fuck it.
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about it "not looking futuristic enough", "Toasters beginning as skin jobs"
First, BSG has already raised the question that skin jobs may have come first, case in point - Saul Tigh. In a recent interview Ron Moore hinted that the 1st Cylon war may start during or at the end of Caprica(if it becomes a series) and we already know that Tigh fought in the 1st War & he's a cylon. So skin jobs first - not a new question. Also, the "cylon" character(s) shown in the trailer are NOT a gov't project - Greystone & Adama do this secretly(that much was revealed months ago) and about the look - read this Interview on IGN - http://tv.ign.com/articles/892/892331p1.html
Another interesting tidbit, from the interview, is that the 12 colonies are NOT one gov't at the beginning of Caprica, they are their own separate gov't - you gonna whine about that too? One more thing this is 51 years prior to the BSG series, gonna be some differences in the overall look. Look how much our society's changed in 50 years -
I saw titties! This is good, no?
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Jul 22, 2008 7:45:29 PM CDT
If you can't see how badly this fucks with established continuit
by scuzzy
Umm
Okay
We haven't seen the show yet. Half of you have basically mapped out the entire script from a brief teaser. Guess we're just too plain stupid to know shit beyond 1 minute of clips. -
Make some money out of a good scifi show by doing a cheap spinoff. I don't think it will work.
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My suspicion is that "Caprica" will never depict that era. They will either save that idea for a "middle series" (one that is set between "Caprica" and "BSG" or for a series of direct-to-DVD movies.If my retcon history is close to correct, then this prequel series will primarily dramatize the development of the original Cylon AI, which was used to drive the "soul" of genetically created humanoids (like the Replicants from Blade Runner). Maybe toward the end of this series' run, they will depict the shutdown of the AI program, and the espionage that occurs to steal this technology in order to use it to run the robot foot soldiers (the original Cylon toaster models), which will be used by rival Colonies in a war against the Capricans. If we're lucky, that is.
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they should just make more BG movies
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I'm thinking about the lines "The end of Humanity" "Has a beginning" So... BG ends with human extinction.
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lots of negativity towards the greatest scifi show of all time!! You people are fucking stupid if you're fans but you don't want to watch it cause the teaser looks "bland" "lame" "boring" "confusing"!!! I for one am really fucking curious to see what's up with the skinjobs coming before the centurions! Have a little faith for the best television writers out there. I know R&D won't fuck it up! Enjoy your half empty glasses you crazy talkbackin douchebags!
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Numerous spoilers from an inside source who has seen dailies from the Galactica Finale and read the scripts. Read at your own risk:
1.The planet that the colonials found at mid season is indeed "our" Earth in the far future. This will be revealed after members of the landing party begin to investigate the surface in detail discovering artifacts clearly familiar to viewers. All is still not what it seems, however.
2.The 13th tribe is, in fact, comprised of the surviving Earth humans who have ‘ascended' (this term isn't actually used) due to their making peace with and breeding with, their own Cylon creations. They remain hidden until late in the season, when the Cavil led faction of the Cylons shows up hunting the Colonials.
3.The Earth humans actually went to war with their ‘Cylons' and each other, nearly destroying the planet. It was during this time that the early offspring of human-cylon mating and their guardians, left Earth for greener pastures to find Kobol and eventually establish the 12 colonies. The early settlers of Kobol, (the Lords of Kobol) erased all evidence of Earth as the human homeworld and began the legend of Earth as the 13th colony. This was done to discourage humans from trying to find it or visit there before they were ready to handle the truth about themselves and their origins. The fifth Cylon reveals this upon her ‘activation'.
4.Starbuck is not a clone or a copy, she is Starbuck but with improvements. Same goes for her Viper. The Earth humans have technology far in advance of the Colonials. The tech includes the ability to modify humans. Starbuck and her Viper have been modified to lead the Colonials to their final destination. The Viper has done its job......Starbuck has more to do.
5.Apollo survives the finale. His father does not.
6.Roslin does not survive the finale......she and Adama Sr.'s demise are connected.
7.Baltar dies a martyr. Boomer survives beyond the end of the finale.
8.The fifth Cylon is female.
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Skinjobs devolved into toasters?
Adamas family is involved in the
creation of Cylons?
There is no real cylon threat here, it's basically Melrose Place on Caprica? No thanks Galactica itself already jumped the shark though I watch it for the somewhat good stuff still there....this looks craptastic on a whole new level.
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But here is a theory I have about Starbuck. I think that her return to Earth happened well in the Galactica past, but probably near to our time. In that past, Starbuck became essentially a goddess to the people of Earth. The destroyed Temple of Aurora shown in the finale was built in her honor. She became the de-facto leader of Earth. Somewhere along the way, something went horribly wrong and civilization was destroyed in a war. With whom? Not sure. Maybe the cylons, maybe the 13th tribe. Her Viper was probably preserved as a living artifact and so, somebody activated the warning beacon, tied it directly into a copy of the original Viper, stuck a cloned Starbuck in the cockpit, and sent it back through space (and essentially back in time) to the Galactica fleet. This ties in wtih the hybrid's warning that Starbuck would "lead the human race to it's end", and be the "harbinger of the apocalypse." Don't know how the Final 5 fit in with this, but it's a start.
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