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Moriarty’s Open Letter To Harvey Weinstein Regarding Howard McCain’s Groovy Viking/Alien OUTLANDER!

Published at:  Jul 21, 2008 4:57:50 PM CDT

Dear Harvey...

I’m sorry. That’s too familiar. We’ve only met a handful of times, so perhaps “Mr. Weinstein” is more appropriate. Whatever the case, I’d like a moment of your time this morning to talk about Howard McCain’s OUTLANDER, which The Weinstein Company owns.

I’m not entirely sure you know which film I’m referring to. I know you’ve got a lot on your plate, so let me remind you. Last week, a couple of different trailers for the film showed up online. It’s the movie where Jim Caviezel plays an alien who crashlands on Earth in the time of the Vikings. He brings something called a “Moorwen” with him, a giant dragon-like creature that begins to attack Viking villages and kill everyone. What unfolds is the most fun I’ve had with a lower-budget SF film since PITCH BLACK, and in a lot of ways, this film reminds me of that one.

I’m not sure what you personally think of the film, but let me share with you my reaction, and my thoughts on what kind of audience there is for it. I walked into the film cold. I saw those trailers, but they were terrible quality. And I haven’t been following this one during production. I was aware of it, but I think I had it sort of confused with PATHFINDER at the same time, and when I saw PATHFINDER, I think I was expecting this film, and when it wasn’t, it was confusing and irritating. I guess I just couldn’t imagine two Viking projects in the works at the same time, both about outsiders being taken into a culture. So walking into the screening room to see this film, I was a fairly blank slate. I didn’t have any expectations.

The film starts mid-crash, as Kainan (Caviezel) steers his ship through Earth’s atmosphere, almost completely out of control, finally managing to splash down in a deep lake somewhere in Norway. Sometime around 700 A.D. Kainan manages to salvage a bit of equipment, sets up a homing beacon, and then heads into the woods to explore. Quickly, he finds himself overpowered after an encounter with Wulfric (Jack Huston), a Viking warrior who is next in line to command a village, after the current King, Rothgar (John Hurt).

Wait... did I say “Rothgar”? Why does that sound familiar?

Anyway, there’s some confusion about who Kainan is, and none of the Vikings believe him when he says he’s hunting a dragon. They believe he was behind the slaughter of a neighboring village, something that will be blamed on the. They’re desperate to get a confession out of him, Wulfric left in charge of getting the answers they need. When the head of that now-decimated village, Gunnar (Ron Perlman) returns from a hunting expedition with a handful of his warriors, he mounts an attack on Rothgar’s village. For a while, it looks like the two tribes are going to destroy each other...

... and then Kainan’s “dragon” shows up. And all hell breaks loose. And the movie gets really fun.

Look, Mr. Weinstein, you and I both know nobody’s going to the Oscars for OUTLANDER, but there is an audience for this. It’s a good cast. John Hurt and Ron Perlman and Jim Caviezel and Sophia Myles and this Jack Huston guy who should be due his big break any second. All of them are rock solid in it. And while Perlman isn’t in much of the film, his first scene is stupendous, and every single time he shows up, he is the unavoidable center of attention, ridiculously fun to watch. The film looks great. Director of photography Pierre Gill doesn’t have the most distinguished track record of films, but here, he does lush and stylish on a budget of just north of $30 million. Geoff Zanelli’s score definitely shows the composers roots in the Hans Zimmer factory, but that’s not a bad thing. He’s definitely of that school, but he’s been doing strong work on genre fare like FEAST, DISTURBIA, and HITMAN. With this movie, he’s written a big sweeping action epic score that really pays off some of the big visual moments, like that awesome flashback to the home planet of the Morwens, or in some of the most entertaining character moments, like the game of shields they play. The design work by guys like Iain McCaig and Ryan Church -– big names to the geek community, Mr. Weinstein –- looks like it made it to the screen completely intact, something that’s fairly rare. I mean, how often does a movie actually look like those gorgeous paintings we see from pre-production? This one does. Frequently. For a movie that cost as little as this one did, every dollar looks like it ended up onscreen.

And then there’s the underlying “big idea” of the film, which snuck up on me, and which I have to say I really, really dig. Basically, this is BEOWULF. You can draw a pretty direct connection between the characters in both stories. I mean, like I pointed out above... King Rothgar should be the give-away. But the idea seems to be that this is the “true story” of what happened, and the story BEOWULF is the way it was told over time by people who didn’t know how to describe aliens or space monsters. It’s a subtle thing, and no one in the film ever comes out and says, “And then one day, this story was written down and called BEOWULF!”, but if you’re at all familiar with that story, you’ll recognize it here.

I like that the human interactions are as entertaining as the monster hunting. That’s a big thing for this kind of film. Caviezel’s one of those guys who can be a total stiff in the wrong role, and he’s good here, loosening up as the movie unfolds, which seems appropriate. Sophia Myles is very pretty, but not unrealistic in this setting, and although there’s some romantic tension between her and Wulfric at the start of the film, it never devolves into anything predictable. And speaking of Wulfric... I know Jack Huston is part of “that” Huston family. He’s the grandson to John Huston, the nephew to both Anjelica and Danny, and sure enough, he’s got mad charisma and real chops as an actor. He takes this potentially-silly Viking role and invests it with something real and credible. I hope this is the start of a bigger career for him.

For everyone involved, actually. I spoke with Howard McCain, the co-writer and director of the film, after the screening, and this has been a long labor of love for him trying to get this story onscreen. I’ve known people who struggled for a decade or more to get a film made, and when they did, it just didn’t work for one reason or another, and that’s always sort of heartbreaking. I can tell that McCain has been so invested for so long that he sees all the compromises he’s had to make and all the edits that were made and the things he didn’t get to do, and for him, the film marks this “almost,” a missed opportunity. As someone who came to it fresh, though, I had a great time with it, and I think there’s a real audience for this type of film. It’s like when I saw the first PREDATOR. I expected nothing, honestly, because of that premise, and what I got turned out to be this delicious surprise.

Mr. Weinstein, please don’t dump this movie. Please. 50 screens and then straight to DVD? I know you’re having financial problems right now, and I’m sure your time since leaving Disney has been a strange one. You went from having deeeeeeeep pockets and one of the best marketing machines in the world behind your product to having to do it all yourself again, and that can be a huge, possibly even insurmountable thing to face. But you built your company on equal parts prestige and exploitation, and I think you need to treat the exploitation genre fare with the same care and attention you treat the possible awards bait. Different audiences, sure, and you’re chasing different goals with each, but in the end, isn’t the whole reason you release these films so that they can find their ideal intended audience in the biggest way possible?

50 screens ain’t gonna do it.

We’re coming up on the early fall drought, where genre fare dries up real fast and we’re stuck with one costume drama after another. If you’re shrewd, and if you commit to really selling this thing, you’ve got a window here. Please take a look at the film again. And if it’s not your cup of tea, bring in some filmmakers whose taste you respect who DO understand the geek thing. Screen it for Quentin... for Robert... for Kevin... ask them if I’m crazy, or if this is a really groovy little adventure movie. Ask them for quotes you can put on the poster. Get creative. Take the film to Fantastic Fest in Austin. Hell, see if you can find a spare theater in San Diego this weekend and throw a screening there and watch the crowd react. This could be an easy win for you, or it could turn into just one more case of the Weinsteins buying and then burying a genre film. To use the adline from another genre film this summer, I want to believe that you can tell a good film from a bad film. I want to believe that you would do everything in your power to get people into theaters when you have a movie that’s worth the effort. I want to believe there’s a place in the market for smaller genre fare that doesn’t have a $100 million ad campaign behind it.

Come on, Harvey... right now, all eyes are on you, and there are real questions about how you’ll define your future in this industry. It can’t just be about Oscars every single time. Do the right thing. Treat this film well. I’ll do my part. I’ll tell my readership about it, I’ll tell other webmasters about it. I’ll do what I can to get the word out. But until you decide to release the film where everyone gets a chance to see it, none of that matters.

It’s up to you.

Thanks for your time.

PS -– INGLORIOUS BASTARDS rules. Can’t f’ing wait.





Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles



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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:09:57 PM CDT

    Second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by tubewayarmy

    Hot milk... mmm tweak my nipple

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:09:58 PM CDT

    Go Jesus Go!!

    by flickapoo

  • Jul 21, 2008 5:12:09 PM CDT

    I dug the trailer and hope Moriarty has some pull

    by billemic

    I watched the trailer on AICN a few days ago and I'd definitely plunk down $8 to see this on the big screen. I like the idea of vikings + aliens, and I'm a big fan of Jim C. (Thin Red Line, anyone?) 50 screens wouldn't do this flick justice.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:13:10 PM CDT

    The first two sentences annoyed me

    by thunderbolt ross

    So I posted this. Now I'll go finish it.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:14:56 PM CDT

    bravo!

    by the insneider

    well done, mori. that struck just the right tone. hopefully he'll listed and take your advice. not sure this sounds like my cup of tea either. in fac i'd never even heard of it before. but if it provoked such a passionate letter it must be worth it. love the story of beowulf and i really wanna see that standout scene of perlman's... i'm gonna go hunt down a crappy trailer.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:15:02 PM CDT

    brilliant

    by ddog

    thats all i got to say.moriartys got some cojones. thats great letting your opinion out.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:17:05 PM CDT

    Is it true the Weinsteins hold the rights to Susperia?

    by wash

    It needs to be on Blu-Ray, like yesterday. But knowing the Weinsteins, they're probably trying to cut out 30 minutes and replace the Goblin score with Lil' Wayne or something.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:19:59 PM CDT

    grueman

    by jamestewart007

    You forgot nipples.

    cool letter. Haven't heard of this film. Might have to wait until the dvd comes out.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:20:31 PM CDT

    The trailer blew me away, I WANT to see this movie

    by drpain

    50 screens, thats it?? Please give Outlander a chance, I told all my friends and family about it as soon as I finished watching its trailer and then they all got excited about it as well. I want to see this movie in a theater.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:31:30 PM CDT

    I loved this - Mr. Weinstein

    by sabrinaloves

    I need this movie. Mr. Weinstein should fucking listen. Im in the dirty south. When no one pays attention it us it makes us angry.. Give me the film.. I've got a whole army of people who would embrace this film. The trailer I have shown to my friends, they love it. We want it here.. I'll take it.. I'll screen it some where.. I'd love to mount a viral army for this film.. I believe in it.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:33:18 PM CDT

    You're the Man, Drew!

    by jackson healy


    btw, Inglourious Basterds does fucking rule!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:34:45 PM CDT

    i think the direction should consider himself lucky

    by magic rat

    this doesn't go straight to DVD with the way it looks.


    Jim Caveezel as a lead in an action movie? You're asking for trouble.


    This might, in fact, be a very good film. But it'll do about as well as Reign of Fire, probably worse, considering the lower level of talent involved.


    If your goal to make this movie find an audience, then there's nothing wrong with straight to DVD. It seems like the kind of movie I'd rent in a slow Blockbuster week. Shelling out $12 at the theater, though, that's another story. Sign up an A-list actor and maybe.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:46:13 PM CDT

    Do these open letters do anything?!?

    by brians life

    I'm SERIOUSLY asking (though with admitedly a bit of cynicism)...has there EVER been a case in which some one was so blown away by an open letter that they went and pulled a MIRACLE on 34th STREET!?!?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:47:10 PM CDT

    umm- who do you think you are?

    by rubiks doob

    50 screens and a DVD release costs a lot of money. this is a semi-ok looking movie. Tell you what, you go make your own studio and get your own money to back it up. Then you can put whatever crap you want to on as many screens as possible. The Weinsteins are still in business because they know WTF they are doing- you armchair quarterback nerd...

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:47:28 PM CDT

    Agree with Magic Rat

    by hiperaktiv

    This is not the kind of movie that would do well in a cinema, unless its really got something special and unique to it, which judging by the trailer - it doesnt look like it has. It might be ok for a DVD rental but seeing it in the cinema? Nar it might do ok, but i can understand the Weinsteins decision to show it in a limited number of cinemas. If the Weinsteins do give it a wide release and they lose a tonne of money, are you going to pick up the bill Mori?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:49:20 PM CDT

    Moriarty's good deed

    by pipergates

    (boyscout). The movie looks like great fun as you describe it, and i couldn't agree more with you about respecting it. Some fine actors and design work and concepts in here. What is it with the Weinsteins and the dumping of promising material??

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:52:44 PM CDT

    Mori

    by snakesonabicycle

    The guy you're sending this letter to knows how to market a film. I didn't see anything special in the trailer. The acting looked somewhat passable, but the cinematography was weak. This looks like a bad combination/best of compilation for The 13th Warrior, and Shakespeare In Love. Magic Rat's right, films can still, and usually do find their auidences on DVD, now more than ever.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:56:30 PM CDT

    would my girlfriend want to see this movie?

    by magic rat

    no. Would she watch it on cable if it comes on? Maybe.


    That's how you judge a wide release film. would any woman you know be interested in this?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 5:59:11 PM CDT

    the concept sounds cool.

    by mr_x

    I've seen the trailer also looks cool. seriously i'd rather watch this compared to unglorious motherfuckers and speed racer. has a preditor vibe that i can't resist!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:03:43 PM CDT

    Would my wife want to watch this movie?

    by antz

    Definitely.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:05:41 PM CDT

    I See...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... so when it's FANBOYS, fans will unite sight unseen because "it's about STAR WARS," and they'll organize ridiculous boycotts, but when I publish a simple open letter about a film I've actually seen that I think deserves better than a dump, I'm somehow in the wrong. Innnnnteresting...

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:10:50 PM CDT

    YES

    by salamimansam

    THis is a movie I am excited to see, and want to see it in a nice theater. Please make it happen for us Big W!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:12:14 PM CDT

    YES!!

    by salamimansam

    Make it happen.
    Make it happen.
    Whatever happened to the small, fun sci-fi flicks anyhow? This looks great.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:14:21 PM CDT

    Rubiks Doob

    by badmrwonka

    jesus christ...if you go that stupid route, not only are you going to bore any talkbacker that's been here more than 2 weeks (since we hear it a lot...I've been here for 8 years, so I'm damn near impervious to it) but you're also just making yourself look like an idiot.using your same completely fallacious logic, couldn't I rag on you for criticizing Mori, since he is doing HIS job, and you are NOT a reviewer or contributor to this site?Mori's job is to critique not just film, but the entire system of film. the machinations and fights, and deals, and all of that...it's not separate from the movies themselves. Mori is taking a movie that he enjoyed (and you know, his opinion may not trump yours, but the fact that millions of people read it on this site, while you're playing Madden says something) and he's championing it.and instead of taking that for what it is, you've gotta be the cool kid and come take a dump on it.well guess what? the coolest kid from my high school is now a valet. when you grow up you'll get it.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:17:25 PM CDT

    I've never understood this.

    by fluffyunbound

    "Shelling out $12 at the theater, though, that's another story. Sign up an A-list actor and maybe." What the hell does THIS mean? If you make THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION - or hell, if you make THE LAST MAN ON EARTH - I don't give a shit who's in it. I'll go. If you make MAMMA MIA I also don't give a shit who's in it - I am not going. Are there really people out there who say, "Wow, that doesn't sound like a movie I want to see - but Tom Cruise is in it, so I guess I'll go." Way to enable a corrupt and debased star system, dude.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:19:18 PM CDT

    Moriarty...

    by mr_x

    we're a fickle lot

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:22:00 PM CDT

    The Real Reason Mori Wrote This

    by funketeer

    He wanted us to know he's met Harvey Weinstein.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:23:50 PM CDT

    Mori, I agree there is a market for these genre films

    by dougmckenzie

    But the market is in DVD, not theatres. Unless you can muster up that huge ad campaign, then no one will know about it. The Internet can get you some early buzz, but a lot of that is done after opening weekend. Serenity is a great example. It's BO was crap, but it did huge on DVD. Great word of mouth and Internet buzz, helped with the latter, but the not the former.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:24:09 PM CDT

    You Answered Your Own Question Mori

    by snakesonabicycle

    Yeah, fanboys will unite and be stupid over Star Wars. It's called having a built in passionate fanbase. If Outlander's destined to a similar fate, it will find it's core fans on DVD... Where it goes from there is entirely up to the passion it elicits. Look, even if this thing got a wide release, it doesn't look like it has the chops to do anything more than 10 to 15 million in it's first week (if even that). I don't care if that's during the summer, or middle of winter.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:25:40 PM CDT

    "I know you're having financial problems right now"

    by smackfu

    You may want to consider cutting that out of your open letter. There's a pretty good chance that one line is going to turn him from open-minded interest to 'who the fuck is this shitbag nobody to think he can talk to me like this?'

    it sounds innocuous enough to say, but to be on the receiving end of it, depending on a persons pride, sense of privacy, and general sensitivity to the subject, may not see it as an innocuous sentence.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:28:57 PM CDT

    I Think

    by snakesonabicycle

    This letter will get removed, along with some of our posts about the stupidity used in writing it.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:29:34 PM CDT

    But, Snakes...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I've seen FANBOYS, and guess what? It's not a STAR WARS film. There are no spaceships or real lightsabers in it. It's just a (fairly terrible) comedy that makes a few STAR WARS jokes. So if the "built in passionate fanbase" is that gullible that they'll suck down anything that even passingly MENTIONS something they like, then I guess I give up. Pardon me for suggesting that a new film of actual merit be treated well. How dare I?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:30:24 PM CDT

    And, Uh...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... no. The letter's not going anywhere. And I really don't care if a small vocal minority in talkback doesn't like it. If I did, I would have run screaming from AICN years ago.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:31:22 PM CDT

    I wouldn't recommend Harvey throwing his money at this film

    by smackfu

    I'm sure it will be fantastic, but viking films don't market well, and usually bomb at the box office. The trailers for this follow the trend, they look completely uninteresting and straight-to-video quality. Again, I'm sure once I saw it, I might love it, but all the rest of the filmgoing public has to go on is the vibe it throws off, and it throws off a pretty mediocre vibe. I think this puppy just needs to find it's cult following on DVD.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:31:44 PM CDT

    You're Forgiven

    by snakesonabicycle

    By me. Maybe not by Harvey, er- Mr. I'm In The Poorhouse Weinstein... Way to burn bridges, by the way.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:32:57 PM CDT

    This letter pleases me

    by o_goncho

    Whole-heartedly. I've been anticipating this film ever since I stumbled onto it's synopsis like 2 years ago whilst browsing Karl Urban's imdb. He dropped out, but I'm delighted to see that not only did it actually get made but that it recieves glowing praise. Thanks, Mori. Now when it is dumped I'll know to seek out that DVD.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:35:17 PM CDT

    Mori

    by snakesonabicycle

    You've removed stuff before. And what the fuck's been released in the last decade that would give this guy any confidence in putting his already dwindling finances in a movie about vikings and spaceships. I'm not trying to damper your pampers here Mori, hell, I want to see this film, but I'm totally fine no splooging all over myself if that first viewing of it does not come in a thatre.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:37:10 PM CDT

    I agree. The "financial problems" line..

    by skeletonparty

    with a link is sort of a slap in the face.


    I'm very interested in seeing this movie and I had no idea it was getting a small release. I'm bummed.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:37:28 PM CDT

    SmackFu

    by therealmoriarty

    ... so don't sell it as a Viking film. Sell it as PREDATOR. Which is a fine comparison. Or are we now unable to sell monster movies, too?

    I just don't get this defeatist bullshit. This is why studios only make sequels and remakes, kids, because the moment there's even the slightest challenge in marketing A VERY GOOD MOVIE, it's easier to fold and dump it to DVD than it is to actually try to find the right audience.

    Bullshit on that.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:38:10 PM CDT

    You tell 'em Mori

    by sebilrazen

    I figured out it was Beowulf from the early trailers, similar to the way I figured out WAR (Jet Li, Jason Statham) was just the Count of Monte Cristo.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:40:03 PM CDT

    The Financial Problems...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... have been the subject of about 20 articles in the past few months from other press, and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Sorry, but that's reality, not a slap in the face. I didn't say it's Harvey's fault... but certainly, they have to be facing some hard choices as a company right now, and this is a finished film that they own that's ready for theatrical release. Wouldn't you think making money off of a movie might be a nice way to help turn things around?

    Again, pardon me if my ideas seem baffling or revolutionary, or if the mere mention of a fiscal reality is enough to derail the message of the piece.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:41:34 PM CDT

    Well, someone did believe in this movie

    by harosa

    It apparently got money and actors to make this genre film so let's not say sequels and remakes are all the studios make, getting it out there now and people aware of it is a totally different game nowadays.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:42:51 PM CDT

    I was an extra on Outlander

    by chetpussy

    Alot of the movie was shot in my home province of Newfoundland. I was an extra in a few scenes and spent about a week on set. Howard McCain was a true gentleman and professional and you could tell that this project was his baby. I had a great time on set and i'm hoping I can actually see the finished product on the big screen.

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  • You see, when you write an open letter to someone making a request, you should not wait until paragraph 12 of 15 to get to the point of it. That's a lot of fucking preamble, dude. I know it's supposed to really be a review under the guise of a letter, so I guess what I'm really saying is that your gimmick failed.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:45:43 PM CDT

    Mori, I think it is great that you published an open letter

    by toadkillerdog

    This is the kind of movie that geeks should be drooling over. The TB's on this site alone concerning this flick have been overflowing with B movie love. dargon, Vikings and Jesus? Oh, My!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:46:29 PM CDT

    Damn typos

    by toadkillerdog

    I meant Dragons, Vikings and Jesus. Oh, My!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:48:03 PM CDT

    Mori is officially on the Comic-Con schedule!

    by irrelevntelefant

    Star Wars day, nice. I have to consult my Comic Con panel Excel spreadsheet schedule, I think this might conflict with the Battlestar Panel. Tough decisions. any hot chicks at your panel, Drew?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:49:16 PM CDT

    Mori, for a level-headed

    by comedian_x

    producer your mention of fiscal reality might be welcomed. For the Weinsteins (who are histrionic at best and raving loons at worst) would not welcome your suggestions and would put out a smoldering cigar in your eye for even the hint of fallibility.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:49:23 PM CDT

    Bobo_Vision's Open Letter to Mr. T

    by bobo_vision

    Dear Mr. T, You are totally awesome. You are cordially invited to my house for dinner, and then you and I can be best friends. Please bring with you a Mr. T lunchbox, some Mr. T cereal, and the Mr. T mohawk and chains starter kit. Your Pal, Bobo_Vision

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:52:15 PM CDT

    In Doing Some Research

    by snakesonabicycle

    That letter was about as bad as the script of Mori's someone posted on his IMDB page. "Amusing" indeed.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:54:40 PM CDT

    Hey, Sherlock...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I posted an entire screenplay of mine here last week in COAX. You should look that up if you really want to find reasons to take shots at me instead of actually discussing the substance of the article. Oh, wait, you already decided to make this about pissing on me instead of supporting the release of original genre fare. Got it. Never mind.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:54:49 PM CDT

    This is why you write about movies not make them,

    by rubiks doob

    So your solution to a movie company that is hurting financially is that they throw away a lot more money on a wide release that looks like the very model of a direct to video junk film. Just because you saw it and liked it doesn't mean anyone else plans to. If it does well in 50 screens they can always expand it. If it tanks and I'd guess it will tank hard because it looks dumb and has little broad appeal with no known actors they won't have risked much and they can make it back on the DVD. Most movies that go direct to video deserve to and this is one of them. Sorry you chose to take a stand for such a shitty looking film but there are definitely worse tragedies in the world. And oh btw Fanboys looks like ass too. So there...

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:58:02 PM CDT

    If we were in Mori's place...

    by tinseltown terror

    most of us would do the same thing he did. I sure would. Why not? Goodluck Mori.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:58:19 PM CDT

    Mori

    by snakesonabicycle

    I wasn't pissing on you. I'm sure you're a great dad, and person, and blah blah blah. I'm pissing on your writing, and horrible idea to set ol' Harv straight. YOU'RE not stupid, just the recent things you've done. See ya at the Outlander convention in 20 years!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 6:58:32 PM CDT

    Sounds a lot better than Fanboys

    by phaedrus007

    I'd see this movie. Is one of those 50 screens in NYC?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:00:53 PM CDT

    I appreciate that Mori's doing something...

    by amy chasing

    but will Weinstein read it? He's a busy guy... Even Whedon has said that petitions have little effect on studios, and that's with lots of people's signatures. How much effect will one person's letter have I do have to wonder? Not to bag the attempt or anything. Just call me a doubter.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:01:06 PM CDT

    To Rubiks Doob...

    by davaldod

    Where in the hell do you get the huevos to declare OUTLANDER "the very model of a direct to video junk film"? I'm sorry, have you SEEN OUTLANDER? You really feel authoritative making this pronouncement on the basis of a trailer you saw on the web?!

    Incredible.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:01:45 PM CDT

    Rubiks Doob

    by badmrwonka

    god, here you go again. I thought you were done.
    "this is why you write about movies and not make them"actually, he has and does write movies. how about you?"throw away a lot more money on a wide release"upping it form 50 theaters is not necessarily a wide release, for god sake. no one is trying to put this on 4000 screens. he's just saying that a little more would help to give it a bump."little broad appeal with no known actors"
    sigh...ron perlman is one of the hottest actors out there right now. have you heard of a gigantic film called Hellboy? hard to see through the make-up (and your noodle brain) but he's the lead. jim cavaziel has also headlined movies, and was the LEAD in one of the most controversial and highest grossing films of all time, passion of the christ."Fanboys looks like ass too. So there..."christ you are dumb, MORI ALREADY SAID HE DIDN'T EVEN THINK IT WAS FUNNY. he used it to make a point.seriously. a valet. someday you'll understand.


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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:01:47 PM CDT

    Looks fine to me...

    by animus

    If I don't see this in the theaters, there's a big chance I'll never ever see it on DVD.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:03:01 PM CDT

    Seriously though...

    by bobo_vision

    ...if you believe in a project and want to get through to suits, go for it. These open letters have gotten attention in the past. Even though Vern's open letter to Fox didn't get them to make the latest Die Hard R-rated, it did get Bruce Willis to start posting here and try to convince people that his movie wasn't going to suck despite the rating. And "Fanboys" won in the end, so if you really believe in the film, I hope this letter gets the ball rolling.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:11:44 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    No. But I got head in the front row of The Grudge.

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  • Nice job. Lots of compelling points here. I'm on board.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:19:50 PM CDT

    Mori

    by vadakinx

    We both know that Hollywood execs are notoriously stubborn. When they make up their mind about something it's going to take something phenomenal to change it.


    Even if you get the likes of Moviehole, Comingsoon, IESB etc on board to start actively promoting this film, even if you are able to generate a tremendous buzz online about the film there are four words to remember: Snakes On A Plane.


    That was a movie that had increbible buzz online and had the studio backing it...and look what happened...nothing. The came and went without as much as a whimper.


    Outlander doesn't even have the studio backing it. The only semblence of any promotion has come from the two trailers. You may say that Outlander and SOAP are two completely different films, but at their core, they are both designed to be fun popcorn films, the types of film that you just have a great time watching.


    Believe me, I'd love to see Outlander on the big screen, but Weinstein just isn't going to take the chance based on the words of movie geeks on the internet.


    That's not to say that generating buzz about the film is a bad idea, quite the opposite. It has to be focused, not on the internet at large, but in real world locations, specifically the 50 places the movie will be shown. The only hope the film has for a wide release is if it consistently sells out those 50 screens.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:20:28 PM CDT

    Viking films don't sell well?

    by antonphd

    What the fuck was Lord of the Rings? It was a viking story with hobbits(representing bored from comfort english folks) getting to tag along for the adventures.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:20:44 PM CDT

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by mcmlxxvi

    Damn You Michael Bay

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:24:17 PM CDT

    Bobo

    by vadakinx

    Actually I think I might be the one who got Willis to come here. Back when Stallone did his Rocky Q&A, I asked if he could get Willis to do the same for Die Hard, he said he'd try and what happened? Willis started posting in the run up to the release of Die Hard IV.


    Though I suppose the general point of these sort of things being able to influence studios holds true, though it's rare. What has been shown though is that talkbackers can't influence the potential audience, as shown by Snakes on a Plane.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 7:27:38 PM CDT

    Outlander

    by antonphd

    Thanks for the open letter, Moriarty. I am a game producer and nothing is more dissapointing then seeing a great piece of entertainment get shuffled to the bargain bin because it isn't given a chance... because the people holding on to it didn't 'get' it or the audience for it. This film will go on to become a cult classic, but nobody gets to enjoy it where the way it's meant to be enjoyed... on the big screen with a rowdy action fan audience. I still remember having fun with the discount theater crowds watching The Frighteners and Deep Rising and Pitch Black. These films do have a solid audience. Don't open it a week before The Dark Knight and you should do fine.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:27:06 PM CDT

    Dang

    by pax256

    This just fell on my radar... I wasnt sure I would even rent it... bad trailers with seemingly predictable storyline. now I dont think I can afford to miss it... the idea of missing out on something cool like Pitch Black all these years is unthinkable.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:28:29 PM CDT

    oh, btw, the point of movies isn't to entertain

    by magic rat

    it's to make money. No A-list actors and a weird premise for a film = not a lot of money made.


    A-list actors help sell a film. Is anyone going to want to watch Letterman to see Jim Caveelzel sell this movie? Or Ron Pearlman (as cool as I think he is)?


    If I'm going to the theater, it's going to be with my girlfriend. very rarely will I go by myself. if I do, it's for something spectaular that she's not interested in (ala The Dark Knight). It won't be for a movie like this, which so far, has nothing in it that seems interesting and doesn't star anyone I particularly trust to make a good movie.


    But hell, if I saw it for free, like Moriarity did, I might like it a lot too.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:31:54 PM CDT

    Beowulf and Grendel...

    by neosamurai85

    Is still my favorite from this recent Beowulf wave. The vibe I'm getting for this film is somewhere between Dragon Slayer and Reign of Fire, with a dash of I Come in Peace added just for the twisted hell of it. Not quite sure what to make of that kind of vibe, but I'm certainly interested.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:42:40 PM CDT

    The perfect film to put into wide release...

    by antz

    ... right about the time they start pushing all the artsy oscar films.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:51:11 PM CDT

    Midnight Meat Train letter, too? Please?

    by necgray

    As a Clive Barker fan, I implore you. Lionsgate is going through a similar "we're bleeding money, so let's fuck over the small non-DTV genre films" phase.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:52:48 PM CDT

    there is only one viking movie, and it is...

    by bernard

    THE VIKINGS (1958)

    Kirk Douglas and Tony Curtis rock that shit.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:58:48 PM CDT

    Magic Rat

    by badmrwonka

    I thought you were dumb when you said that the Godfather was boring and overrated, but now, man...that crock of meandering babble might be even worse...so the point of movies is to make money and nothing else? the point of investing in bearer bonds is to make money. commercial movies have economic concerns like any other large piece of art, but it is not purely so. and what are you talking about only going to the movies if your girlfriend wants to go. how many movies are there about eating pancakes and bacon? that makes no sense.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 10:59:06 PM CDT

    oh yeah...and inglorious bastards

    by bernard

    has a genius climax with intestines and fire and a giant head, but i agree that there wasn't enough of the bastards...especially to validate splitting the movie in two.

    i also felt that the last line in the script was really pushing the lines of ego-maniacal self indulgence, but it was a fun read.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:00:47 PM CDT

    magic rat

    by badmrwonka

    sorry, that was Batzilla with the Godfather thing. you sound like him, so I was confused.you are only half stupid, I apologize.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:01:47 PM CDT

    VIKINGS AND ALIENS AND DRAGONS? SERIOUSLY?

    by bringingsexyback

    Color me intrigued. I'd usually steer clear of a movie with a leading character named Gunnar, but what the hell ... like Mori said, it's better than a shit sequel/remake.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:09:02 PM CDT

    Weinsteins have been consistently terrible...

    by thead

    at marketing their films. Grindhouse might have had a chance if they bothered to market it at all. It seems to me they are still blaming grindhouse-the-movie for it's failure in theatrical distribution. That grudge seems to be carrying over here I think... I mean why the hell else isn't the theatrical version of grindhouse on DVD yet?

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:09:15 PM CDT

    you're talking about a studio head

    by magic rat

    from a studio head's POV, the point of movies is to make money.


    that was my point.


    as for only going to movies with my girlfriend, yeah, it's called having a girlfriend. I'll go by myself on occasion if it's something she doesn't want to see and I do, but we usually go together because we get in for free because she used to work at the local theater.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:22:01 PM CDT

    BadMrWonka

    by xiphos_2

    How dare you darken the good name of Valets, sir! I shall sick the Valets Union of America(VUoA) upon you. See if anybody carries your bags into a hotel now buster, or makes reservations for you at a good resturant. I think not!

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:46:43 PM CDT

    The letter

    by echorock

    Personally, I don't know what effect this letter will have, but I am thrilled that someone is out there taking a stand on the movie. And I gotta tell you, it's fun as hell to hear everyone argue about it. So when it gets out into theaters, even if it's just 50, I hope you'll all give it a shot. (And THEN if you don't like it, you can all rip us a new one) Thanks, The Writer.

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:51:23 PM CDT

    ok

    by captainalphabet

    strong work mori. i'll check out the flick (which prior i thought sounded pretty stupid).

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  • Jul 21, 2008 11:52:56 PM CDT

    About Oscars every time

    by series7

    Like what they did with Control? A movie that no one saw and it should've gotten some noms.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:02:19 AM CDT

    Echorock, I hope to

    by thead

    "when it gets out into theaters, even if it's just 50, I hope you'll all give it a shot. "

    Only 50 screens almost guarantees that it won't play in my town though, which really frustrates me. But as long as the weinsteins are having it, I doubt there will be enough cash to make the apropriate marketing campagne to make a larger release viable.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:04:47 AM CDT

    Xiphos

    by badmrwonka

    you ain't no Valet!!!
    I had valet friends in college and it just seemed like they were stuck with it cos they didn't want to work hard enough to be a barback or busboy. and the tips for those jobs were double, and with ZERO risk of getting your shit kicked in for scratching a mercedes...how goes things man? I got my website up and I'm a sneeze away from a book deal for some pieces of my writing, but I hesitate to put it on here for fear of intense ridicule by people who hate...you know...cats?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:22:22 AM CDT

    BMW

    by xiphos_2

    If you have a zone account shoot me the info there. oddly enough, I use the same handle there.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:36:33 AM CDT

    Dude, I'm your wingman on this...

    by clarence boddicker

    Moriarty, you're 100 percent spot on. This IS a relatively original idea that deserves some support from not only our community, but from the producers themselves...sweet Jesus people...if films like this can't fly we'll be stuck with Legally Blond 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7! Or worse...a trilogy of Sex and the City movies...oh wait...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:51:28 AM CDT

    Hi, Tom Bodet!

    by uncapie

    Gumbarr and his pony pal, Cokey tooooooo! Come on folks; sing along!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:53:01 AM CDT

    An open door for Mori: Hey wipe your feet!

    by stormwatcher

    Mori. give us the dream casting on Ing Bastards.
    Where does Stallone fit in? What about Willis?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:14:35 AM CDT

    This will bomb

    by series7

    Sorry, maybe 20 million if they are lucky. Unless they wait another year to put it out and get the hype train rolling. Pitch Black only did about 30 million, it only has a chance at being a sleeper hit.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:20:24 AM CDT

    Hans Zimmer is not a bad thing?

    by therealkumar

    Could have fooled me.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:53:48 AM CDT

    I still think Caviezel should be Superman

    by darthbakpao

  • Jul 22, 2008 1:57:52 AM CDT

    Sounds like great fun in theaters

    by spencertrilby

    As much as I dislike your writing on this site most of the time, many kudos for writing this article Mori. Albeit I'm not sure the "open letter" thing was the most pertinent way to put it. And like others said, Pitch Black wasn't exactly a smash hit in theaters, more like a video sensation. But I'd see that in theaters, for sure. If only it was released in a theater neer my ass.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:10:27 AM CDT

    You fucking rock Moriarty!

    by womb2doom

    I can't count how many times I've seen a great movie disappear through the cracks due to no studio support/audience and no mountain for me to scream from.THIS is why I love this site. It's from and for passionate, positive film lovers. I'm adding OUTLANDER to my must see list. Sold. IF it ever gets an Australian cinema release...Hey, here's a rather obvious thought - why not do this monthly? Choose one movie that is drowning or possibly gonna drown in cinemas and throw some vocal support behind it. Slap a face or 2. Keep it in the main article area on the left for the whole month. If there aren't any movies drowning in the cinema that month, pick one from a back catalogue of movies that have already dropped through the cracks. I'm positive you will ready, willing and able long-list of volunteers of writers here ready to be heard... Go, Aintitcool News! Go!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:41:47 AM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch...

    by womb2doom

    I guess that makes me irregular, huh? Considering the company, I'll take that as a good thing.Just the one 'b' in 'Womb' champ. Thanks for your time.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:45:16 AM CDT

    I'm really looking forward to Oulander BUT

    by d o o d

    Even I found that letter to be Nauseating and patronising.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:46:40 AM CDT

    whiny

    by wyvern

    I do agree with ya on this site pimping shit that shouldn't be.I think this movie more then others deserves a second looks besides the first crappy trailer and roll your eyes on the basic idea of viking,alien, and monster/dragon being a fun film.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:47:31 AM CDT

    People are still curious about INGLORIOUS BASTARDS?

    by motoko kusanagi

    Weird.No Stallone/Schwarzenegger/Willis crossover plus directed by Quentin fuckin'overrated Tarantino. Meh.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:58:35 AM CDT

    Only one weak point to the letter

    by subfreq

    Inglorious Bastards is a 6/10 script. It was the biggest missed opportunity I have ever read.

    Great letter , commend your sentiment man.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:59:54 AM CDT

    Then again I should point out

    by d o o d

    That I do admire mori's passion when he gets behind a movie. A lot of what he said in that letter is what I would call "A good thing to do" If there's a good director out there then let's help him out

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:59:58 AM CDT

    Whiny...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... yep. Glad I did it, too. I love SPEED RACER. Saw it twice in IMAX. Love love love it. And you can try to use that as a club against me, but I don't give a fuck. It's a great movie.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:02:15 AM CDT

    Good job Moriarty

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The trailer looks like fun, I hope Weinstein gives the film a chance.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:14:52 AM CDT

    10,000 BC

    by antonphd

    I got this on dvd tonight because the dvd said there was a different ending and I was stupid enough to think that meant that there was a chance that there might have been more fleshing out of the bad guy... maybe a bit more backstory or possibly something remotely close to a climax for the film. If this shit of a movie can get a wide release by selling it as a film by the ID4 dude... then fuck... Moriarty is right about Outlander... throw a name in the mix that has box office draw... add someone as a producer so you can say it's from the producer of such and such film... Outlander has more going for it in the trailer then 10,000 BC has in the entire waste of time film. I'm personally tired of the sharp but small sci-fi/fantasy films being flushed down the direct to dvd toilet. And I second the Beowulf and Grendel love. Saw it in Seattle in one of the handful of showings and loved it. I saw it because I liked Butler from Timeline(the only thing good about that movie). There's a film that deserved being direct to dvd instead of Beowulf and Grendel.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:25:41 AM CDT

    to the sight-unseen haters

    by jofex

    its amazing how quick some fanboys are to eat their young, meaning the subject matter they purportedly love (um... 80's style sci-fi, dragons, Vikings). If Outlander was a neglected child instead of a neglected movie would you beat it to death to make yourself feel better?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:12:20 AM CDT

    if it was their money...

    by jofex

    then I think there should be an alternate site for amateur scared-shitless wannabe producers who run at the first sign of a marketing challenge. Besides shame on you terds for thinking like studios instead of devotees of cinema. And to say "I'd dump it because I can think like a studio and they always make stupid decisions" means... you can make stupid decisions. Congratulations.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:22:41 AM CDT

    None too happy

    by hamo455

    If this gets dumped on DVD, as being in NZ I'll never get to see it theatrically. At least in 50 theatres some of you will get that privelege.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:23:39 AM CDT

    Dear WhinyNegativeBitch,

    by womb2doom

    My sign off line was in direct reference to the massive love this site gave to Speed Racer so nice catch. You're incredible. I will speak of you to all my friends. Speed Racer, a love I also share.Also to reiterate - I wasn't talking about a general DVD column or masses of positive reviews/articles - I think the realisation of a monthly dedicated feature article spotlighting one particular struggling "good" film would be awesome. Every once in a while Harry will post a help 'Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang' and you've got Mori's effort here so what harm can come from making the love consistent? This sort of shit is happening so often with studios or the audiences, I believe it could actually do well. After all, if there is one thing that the most genuine film lovers appreciate, it's a good underdog story!Think of it as the aintitcool.com equivalent of the period but, you know, you don't want to skip it .... but it will always probably be late.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:25:03 AM CDT

    Humourless wankers. Again

    by lost jarv

    This looks like a great piece of genre shlock that will inevitably die on its arse. However, in 20 years time there will be the next generation of TB-er's raving about it and wondering why it fell off the radar. Fuck's sake- even The Thing was a flop. This has no real backing, no marketing, and there is no belief in it. Therefore it will fail, and the open letter pointing out what is good about it is a good idea.And yet, you fucking accountants in training crawl out of the woodwork every time with your pathetic psuedo FT bleating about money (as if any of you cunts have shares in the studio), and berating the author for pointing out the fucking obvious. Haven't you got paperclips to count?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:26:24 AM CDT

    That is a good idea from Womb

    by lost jarv

    actually, as much as we may hate to admit it we're a niche market. Therefore to pick one project a month and give it this treatment is a cracking idea.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:28:09 AM CDT

    this should be the mantra repeated at every

    by lost jarv

    one of you bastards that spouts off box office figures or other suchlikes. From Jofex: "Besides shame on you terds for thinking like studios instead of devotees of cinema. And to say "I'd dump it because I can think like a studio and they always make stupid decisions" means... you can make stupid decisions" Read and remember, arseholes.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:33:27 AM CDT

    Womb2dooM

    by uva

    Great idea. A spotlight feature would be awesome. And Mori, great article. Agreed on all fronts. You're becoming quite the literati lately.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:44:29 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv

    by xiphos_2

    That paragraph about accountants in training had me rolling man. I agree with with the first paragraph you wrote in that post. This looks like fun schlock, fun at the theaters and beer with friends afterwards, fun as a rental with pizza and beer type of movie(Man I'm dying for a pizza and beer right right now).Those posters really are as you stated, "humorless wankers" indeed. Most of them must have been given a transfusion of M-O-M blood.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:02:42 AM CDT

    negativebitch

    by xiphos_2

    Just out of curiosity and sheer boredom, just how much sand do you have jammed in your box? Or is the tampon just overly full and chaffing?What exactly is the problem you have with a somewhat original movie that's not a sequel, a remake, retread, "reimaging" of a 70's or 80's TV show. BTW Hollywood where's the reimaging of BJ and The Bear? Are you afraid that you might have 90 minutes of fun and enjoyment? It's alright buddy to have fun at the movies, after all, its entertainment nothing more.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:11:45 AM CDT

    OUTLANDER looks awesome...

    by spud mcspud

    ...And why the hell shouldn't Mori get behind it with an open letter? Just 'cos it's more of a gesture than an active move on his part doesn't render it pointless or useless. It's obvious he has PASSION for this movie - he wants it to do well, and wants the Weinsteins to know too. Why is that a fucking bad thing?

    Now GONE - THAT was a bad thing. Truck fuck girl!

    I still don't know why the buzz for non-Star Wars Star Wars movies is all about this FANBOYS and yet I hear fuck all about 5-25-77. From what I hear, 5-25-77 > FANBOYS to the Nth degree. Mori - your next assignment is to get behind 5-25-77, get some steam up for Patrick Read Johnson and help get that fucking classic out there on the big screen! I mean... after OUTLANDER, of course.

    Weinsteins - there's a fucking HUGE market in the UK for pizza-and-beer late-night-Saturday movies. PLEEEEEEASE do not dump this on DVD. You have no idea how many times I'd go catch this on a big screen - and bring all my mates along in a longboat, just for shits and giggles >:D

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:14:29 AM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch

    by spud mcspud

    It's a movie with Vikings and aliens in it. That turns out to be the legend of Beowulf (I think). WHY is that not entertaining?

    Y'know, respecting your right to like what you like and all that, but... how do you NOT enjoy a movie with vikings and aliens? That trailer alone pisses on the entire ouevre of Platinum Dunes movies. But then, the gigantic bog otter I set free this morning tops Platinum Dunes' entire slate, so...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:15:14 AM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch

    by spud mcspud

    Hold on. AMERICAN FUCKING IDOL?!?!?!?

    Tell me you're being ironic, 'cos that shit does NOT compute.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:26:48 AM CDT

    Whiny...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... would it make you feel better if I told you that I thought PATHFINDER was a fucking miserable way to spend an afternoon? OUTLANDER is no PATHFINDER.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:27:50 AM CDT

    And BTW...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I've never used the phrase "turn your brain off" once. I think OUTLANDER has good writing, solid characterization, and it all pays off in a very satisfying way. It's not a "turn your brain off" movie at all. That's the point. That's why I would like to see it treated well.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:29:38 AM CDT

    WNB

    by lost jarv

    Sorry dude, you missed my point. Basically, I was saying that the article itself publicising the film is a good thing. I personally don't especially give a monkey's if the Weinsteins release it on 1 screen or 10,000. But to come on here and slate the article while wittering about money is fucking tiresome. It isn't about the fucking money- many of my favourite films were commercial disasters, and many of my most hated were tremendously successful.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:31:03 AM CDT

    Wait, Wait, Wait...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... "this director's previous work"? What previous work? The two TV movies listed on IMDb that are over a decade old?

    Are you seriously telling me that (A) you saw both of those and (B) you remember them in vivid enough detail to proclaim this film unfit because of McCain's work in them?

    Look, man, if you don't want to see the film, don't, but what's the gag? Is the talkback handle a shtick you have to live up to?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:31:17 AM CDT

    And Marshall rocks

    by lost jarv

    Even Doomsday.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:35:12 AM CDT

    DOOMSDAY...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... didn't much like that one, either.

    But so what? I still liked THIS one, and that's the point. THIS ONE is good, and I'd hate to see it get dumped. If I give up on all genre films just because I don't like one or two or ten of them, then what's the point?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:36:58 AM CDT

    Hey XI,

    by lost jarv

    How's things? And furthermore Whiny- I wasn't thinking about Vikings per se, but about shlock. There has been a huge amount of TB's recently with groups of people reminiscing about it- 20 years time there will be the same. As I said above, we are (as much as we may hate to admit it) a niche market, and an article from our (arguably) leading site putting the spotlight on these kind of films once a month would be great.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:45:35 AM CDT

    I'm looking forward to this one

    by franklin t marmoset

    I must admit, it's the kind of thing I'd rather watch on DVD with some friends and a few beers, but I'm happy for Mori to push it in whatever way might help it. Dragons, aliens, vikings - how can it not be good? Of course, I had a similar response when I heard about Gingerdead Man (A magical murderous biscuit - how can it not be good?) and that one turned out to be sweaty ass.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:58:37 AM CDT

    Wait a sec!!!!

    by womb2doom

    If you add spaces between Y & N and E & B, WhinyNegativeBitch actually spells out the words 'Whiny-Negative-Bitch'! Holy hairy huge donkey balls - what a hilarious, fitting accident! And if your add up every single one of his posts in this here talkback, while he has EASILY written the most, he has NOTHING to say. This is change the sheets stuff we are uncovering here! You've been exposed, WhinyNegativeBitch. We found you out. It took us a while but the evidence is in your handle, "topics" and "statements". Just think, if you hadn't have dribbled on for 15,682 posts, we may never have known the truth hidden behind a cascade of clever contradictions and slight of hand. Maybe switch your calling card to "RantingUnsureWimp" and start afresh. Maybe. Eh? Give it a shot? For old times sake?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:01:36 AM CDT

    The Descent sucked?

    by lost jarv

    getthefuckouttahere.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:25:21 AM CDT

    RYGAR!

    by laserpants

    That game was great. This, however, sounds monumentally retarded. Play it for camp / sleaze / exploitation and it might work though.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:28:49 AM CDT

    Jim Caviezel Has The Same Initials As Jesus Christ!

    by laserpants

    OMFG! They should cast him in a gratuitous torture porn out of it heavily anti-semetic overtones, making it the first religious porn / neo nazi propaganda film! I wonder who could direct such a thing... hmm... Leni Riefenstahl? No, she's dead (I think) and wants to distance herself from her Nazi past... hmm... Any ideas?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:32:37 AM CDT

    Jim Caviezel Has The Same Initials As Jesus Christ! (Edit)

    by laserpants

    OMFG! They should cast him in a gratuitous homoerotic torture porn with heavily anti-semetic overtones, making it the first religious porn / neo nazi propaganda film! I wonder who could direct such a thing... hmm... Leni Riefenstahl? No, she's dead (I think) and wants to distance herself from her Nazi past... hmm... Any ideas?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:33:44 AM CDT

    I actually liked the look of this film from trailers

    by lemming

    ..they weren't that bad were they?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:34:55 AM CDT

    WNB

    by lost jarv

    You assume that such promotion is a given, but it isn't. That's why a spotlight article as a regular feature would be good.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:36:07 AM CDT

    Open letter to Moriarty

    by jonah echo

    Dear Drew,

    Good on you for writing this, and thanks for the entertaining approach. Clearly this is both a shout to anyone who will listen, but it's also a review telling the geek brethren here to perk up their ears and pay attention.

    You are utlizing this site in one of the ways that is most satisfying and interesting, as a way to help those movies that deserve a chance.

    Me, Im elated to hear it deserves a chance. I've gone to see second tier potential trash I'd never heard of on your reccomendation alone-two instances come to mind. One was Pitch Black. Went with my dad and we both loved it. Later, in 2002, when snow closed the college I attended, I noticed a mystery movie with no reviews or previews had showed up at the local theater. Equilibrium. I looked it up, and sure enough you had a review. Went to it with a few other guys who thought I was crazy and dreamed it was even showing. They all thanked me after the fact.

    Point is, what you are doing is good, and encouraging. I wanted to see someone here at AICN step-up and try to help get this thing seen(I advocated that very thing in the last Outlander talkback) and it's good to hear it's worthy of being seen.

    Open letter to AICN guys:

    Let's rally around Mori on this one. Let's keep the talback going, and lets add our voices as people who want to see this film, whatever it turns out to be, and preferrably in the theater.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:40:20 AM CDT

    Also Drew..

    by jonah echo

    did you see X-Files 2 yet? I want to hear your review if you did. Latauro's seemed like he went in with the wrong mindset. I've heard other positives, so I want some perspective here.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:58:02 AM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch...

    by womb2doom

    Thank you for making my point. In that post, without prompting, you segued to CNN, McDonalds and The Descent without once eluding to an actual relevant point. Not that I'm not grateful to waste minutes until sleep but, I guess my point is, does somebody like you know when they are insane, as you clearly are? Like, would you reread your ramblings from top to bottom of this TB and stop and think "Wow, it is amazing how fucking crazy I really am!"?I know this comes off as a personal attack, but seriously, nothing you have posted here is consistent with anything preceding it or even in line with the point of the article. It's the ravings of a mad man. If you have a valid reason for interceding here, fine, but all you have done is detract and abuse without apparent motive.But thank you again for killing time until z town, populations z.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:00:13 AM CDT

    I love these TB's

    by lost jarv

    They're great. Even if that portuguese pillock does keep pitching up and ruining them

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:08:56 AM CDT

    Yes, it obviously is "Beowulf", but that may not be...

    by stalin vs predator

    ...the best thing to say to a studio executive, considering that Crichton and McTiernan had already tried rewriting/refilming "Beowulf" as "Eaters/13th Warrior", and while it was an excellent film, it isn't viewed as such by studio executives, and so the concept isn't fondly remembered by them...(Well, the saving thing might be the fact that they don't know it was a retelling of Beowulf, either)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:26:46 AM CDT

    Weinsteins are notorious for buying and dumping films

    by nabster

    Try reading Down and Dirty Pictures, its about Miramax and Sundance. They have destroyed many film makers fruits of labor.

    I am sorry to say this open letter is beyond futile, if anything it will only aggravate the Weinsteins. It would be great if the Weinsteins treated every movie with respect, but not every movie can or even should get a wide release. Ultimately we'll only be able to judge this after seeing the film, it looks cool, but also understandable studio heads would be inclined to think it will bomb on screen.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:29:55 AM CDT

    Mori is pretty pissed these days.

    by derlanghaarige

    It seems like that. But hey, I can understand you. I'm on your side! Can'T wait to see it. Maybe it gets a better treatment in europe (although it will probably strong cut in Germany. Even Iron Man and Hulk were :P)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:39:29 AM CDT

    Mori - don't feed the trolls

    by sebilrazen

    They get some sick glee (and part of your soul) when you respond to them

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:43:30 AM CDT

    WNB seems to be all over the place

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I don't know why he or anyone else would have a problem with Drew posting a letter they sent to a studio head, especially for a movie that's been given a limited release.I remember walking into Dark City having not seen a trailer, article or review for it. I liked the poster outside the theater, my friend and I were intrigued and we walked in not knowing what the movie was about or who was in it. Two hours later I walked out of the theater and asked my friend, "What just happened?" I couldn't register the perfection I had just witnessed up on the screen without any advance knowledge of it. Outlander might not be Dark City, but I get the feeling it deserves a fighting chance to be more than a cult favorite.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:54:28 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    Had much the same experience with Dark City. In fact my dad and I were so psyched by how good it was, we stopped at the second run theater on the way home to catch another movie, and picked another we hadnt heard of before. Gattaca. And it too was awesome.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:55:04 AM CDT

    Provided Outlander gets the chance

    by jonah echo

    it deserves, my dad and I will be there opening night for it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:57:02 AM CDT

    With the domination of bloody Odeon

    by lost jarv

    it's getting hard to do that in the UK. Last film I managed it with was Dog Soldiers. Which rocks. And I don't care what you think WNB. It rocks.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:01:25 AM CDT

    Gattaca and Dog Soldiers

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Two different movies but once again, two movies that got zero support from the studio, both of which I walked into knowing next to nothing about and walked out feeling blindsided by how awesome they were.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:01:55 AM CDT

    See If Drew

    by snakesonabicycle

    actually felt secure in his open letter statements, he wouldn't be defending them so angrily right now. Harry doesn't usually do this, because he lives in a fantasy land and just doesn't care. Mori however gets pissed because he sometimes realizes when he's made a ass of himself. Sorry, MAESTRO, but it's true.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:03:28 AM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by drunken rage

    No, but I got a hummer in the front row during an afternoon screening of Jean-Claude Van Damme's "Sudden Death." Is that close?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:03:42 AM CDT

    Caviezel IS superman

    by ironic_name

    search your yadda yadda.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:09:59 AM CDT

    I'm trying to think what else I've done it with

    by lost jarv

    I remember seeing a Helen Mirren film called The Hawk. Which wasn't great.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:20:44 AM CDT

    Jonah and Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    Good open letter dude. I'm with you on that. Keep up the good work Mori. Jarv, it has been a while dude.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:21:57 AM CDT

    What's with Bale beating up his mom and sister?

    by toadkillerdog

    Jarv, any help with that story?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:25:19 AM CDT

    TKD

    by lost jarv

    Give me a minute....

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:26:07 AM CDT

    toadkillerdog

    by ironic_name

    they wouldn't tell him where to find the clown, he pushed them off a second storey fire rail.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:26:54 AM CDT

    OK. It's an appalingly fascist paper

    by lost jarv

    but can probably be relied on: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1037174/Batman-star-Christian-Bale-arrested-assault-claims-brought-mother-sister.html

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:27:27 AM CDT

    or even worse

    by lost jarv

    From The Scum:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1453926.ece

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:28:12 AM CDT

    I saw it this morning

    by lost jarv

    It's been an excuse for the hacks to wheel out the old 60's batman gags: Holy Punch Up, Batman!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:28:13 AM CDT

    ironic_name

    by toadkillerdog

    Well, that will guarantee a bigger box office - bad boys always draw!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:29:11 AM CDT

    or

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/5lk9ul

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:29:13 AM CDT

    I wouldn't put too much store in it frankly

    by lost jarv

    To begin with- why would they go to Hampshire when it happened in Central London? That's daft. I suspect they are being a pair of money grubbing slags.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:29:45 AM CDT

    yes, I know

    by lost jarv

    Tinyurl is my friend. I just couldn't be arsed.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:31:50 AM CDT

    And yet, still no INGLORIOUS BASTARDS script review...

    by tophat

    Muahahahahahahahahaha!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:32:44 AM CDT

    I get to see TDK on saturday

    by lost jarv

    paying a bit more so me and Mrs Jarv can have a sofa and Waitress to bring me beer.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:33:08 AM CDT

    "this isn't the war my mother warned me about"

    by ironic_name

    whoops.. john connor :- sisterminator.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:34:29 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    That is a perfect setting. A couch and a brew. Those types of theatres are sprouting up around the U.S. now.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:39:42 AM CDT

    It's worth it for 3 reasons

    by lost jarv

    It only costs £10 It's in a far nicer bit of London than the one we normally go to- so less chavs It's clean. None of these things you can say about Camden Odeon, where the tenner saved actually results in 2 uncomfortable people in a bad mood due to mobile phone plague, dirty bastards, and the fact that we've been sitting in a bin. It generally doesn't show what we want to see though, this is the exception.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:44:00 AM CDT

    And a happy Mrs. Jarv is a very Happy Lost Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    Changing the subject - yet again -because that is what Changian's do! I watched a back-to-back Tony Jaa. Ong-Bak and Tom Yum Goong. Wow! It was like dropping acid after snorting two lines of coke and drinking a snapple! Yes, I saw them before, but not back-to-back, Someone should have warned me of Tony Jaa overdose!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:45:42 AM CDT

    Couch and a Brew

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It's called ManLand and it's above my garage. And Newcastle, Corona and Guinness are always on tap.Seriously, I wish my local theaters had amenities like this and didn't require a police presence at night to break up the ruffians.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:47:39 AM CDT

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    You will get them soon enough a chain of theatres like that is slowly rolling out here.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:49:23 AM CDT

    Toad

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I watched Tom Yum Goong again two weeks ago. I was sloshed by the time he made his way up the spiral staircase but I see something new everytime I watch it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:50:02 AM CDT

    Garage?

    by lost jarv

    Luxury. Pah. At least we've got more than one telly so she can bugger off into the other room. She does bring beer though. Albeit a touch ungraciously.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:51:16 AM CDT

    Independant Cinemas are great

    by lost jarv

    and to be honest, I think they are totally worth the few quid more. I still wouldn't see Speed Racer, even if the cinema provided me with a blow job and enough cocaine to floor Oasis.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:53:48 AM CDT

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    My faviorite scene in Ong-Bak - besides the obligatory love that the flaming leg kicks gets, is the first fight scene. When he just destroys the dude with one thigh smash across the chest, and he just looks like it was absolutely nothing. The crowd is just stunned. I love that scene.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:55:36 AM CDT

    That's a great scene

    by lost jarv

    Although, really, I struggle to pick a favourite. Mrs Jarv is not a fan of Martial Arts movies. She's starting to like schlock and loves horror, but draws the line at "grown men pretending to beat each other up". Mystifyingly, she gets a bit shitty when I pointed out that Atonement, was "Grown men pretending to be from the early part of the 20th century".

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:59:02 AM CDT

    Jarv, has she ever watched Crouching Tiger?

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes, I know it is more operatic than ass-kicking, but there are some great wire scenes in it, that could be used to ease Mrs. Jarv into the genre. If nothing else, maybe the tissue factor will get you some lovin. It worked for me!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:00:01 AM CDT

    She has.

    by lost jarv

    But unfortunately I fucking despise that overrated angst fest. So I can't sit through it again.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:04:58 AM CDT

    To digress a wee bit

    by lost jarv

    Does anyone honestly give a shit about that X-Files movie? What little interest I had has been killed when I found out that Billy "Scottish Steve Martin (used to be funny in the 80's- now appears in dreck)" Connoly was in it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:07:42 AM CDT

    Hmm, well, What about Hero?

    by toadkillerdog

    Although if you do not like Tiger you might not like that one either. Still, the tissue factor is very high and women just respond.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:10:40 AM CDT

    Hero did not bug me anywhere near as much as CTHD

    by lost jarv

    And I managed to get her through house of the flying daggers. But she starts to talk bollocks about the use of colour. And therefore misses the point.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:10:50 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is it just the sight of grown men beating each other up without an engaging story around it or she just plain doesn't like the kicking and the punching and the biting and the "Oy, that shattered leg is going to hurt in the morning"? Because the latter can be rectified as Hong Kong does put out the occassional movie with style and substance.My own private movie theater is upstairs in the bonus room but that room is the only room upstairs and it just so happens it's above the garage which is fortunate as the room isn't soundproofed.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:13:19 AM CDT

    um... Midnight... Meat Train? maybe?

    by necgray

    Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:14:50 AM CDT

    X-Files

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I only ever saw one episode of the show and rented the movie because I was bored and had seen everything else on the shelf.That was what, 9 years ago? I think they waited too long and the fan support just isn't there anymore. This isn't Indy where 19 years later people are still chomping at the bit for a new movie. It's friggin X-Files. I don't know why they bothered.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:15:49 AM CDT

    Outlander looks like a great time

    by just pillow talk

    Why get in a hub-bub over what Mori wrote? How does it impact you at all? I probably won't see it in the theater...probably...but I'll definitely watch that puppy on DVD. Doomsday won't be available til the end of the month.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:16:11 AM CDT

    I watched Kill Zone

    by toadkillerdog

    Much better than I expected it to be. It had a real storyline, that only occasionally erupted into fight scenes. Still it was much better than City of Violence. That was very boring. HOD I need more recomendations.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:17:32 AM CDT

    I hate crounching tiger...never saw Hero

    by just pillow talk

    I'm against wire-fu when it's supposed to be a martial arts movie. Tony Jaa...Donnie Yen...that's what I'm talking about.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:18:01 AM CDT

    I think she sets her sights too high with it.

    by lost jarv

    She's got some kind of mental block (A la Memories) where she thinks that quality needs to exist on some artistic level unless it's pure schlock garbage. Hence liking Flying Daggers, Hero, and Crouching Tiger, but hating more visceral stuff. It's very annoying, frankly.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:18:26 AM CDT

    Hola Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    Damn, someone round up Abom, and Doc, and lets turn this into a serious Changian TB!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:18:28 AM CDT

    Kill Zone was great

    by just pillow talk

    My next one up will be Flash Point, per Mr. Hawaiian.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:19:32 AM CDT

    actually, I blame Jet Li for it

    by lost jarv

    In all honesty she was quite open to them until I made the mistake of putting on Romeo Must Die. Since then she's been really, really anti them

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:19:52 AM CDT

    hey toad...

    by just pillow talk

    The alley fight scene in Kill Zone...nothing in those wire-fu movies can remotely compare to that bad-assery.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:20:18 AM CDT

    Doc is on a binge at the moment

    by lost jarv

    and Abom has been sighted in TDK TB. Which I'm staying out of.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:21:13 AM CDT

    Kiss of the Dragon is much better than Romeo

    by just pillow talk

    Should have had that one be the one that put her off on them.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:23:14 AM CDT

    K-O-D is much better

    by lost jarv

    but Romeo has the X-Ray gimmick. Which is cool.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:24:01 AM CDT

    unfortunately my wife figured out the netflix password

    by just pillow talk

    So next up are (fuck me) No Reservations and The Other Boyleyn Girl. Such a missed opportunity there with a nice lesbian scene...Sunshine will follow, but it matters not right now since my summer class is playing ping pong with my balls right now.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:24:05 AM CDT

    I keep hearing mixed things about Flashpoint

    by toadkillerdog

    I was burned on City of Violence so I want a solid recomendation before I get Flashpoint.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:25:35 AM CDT

    fear not the darkness toad...

    by just pillow talk

    If it's shit, it is...but I must take the journey.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:25:58 AM CDT

    Other Boleyn Girl

    by lost jarv

    Awful. Go out to the pub and let her watch it. Or take Pillowling down the park. Honestly, I can't stress this enough. Hideous, hideous, turgid poorly acted, miscast boring piece of crap.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:26:38 AM CDT

    I'm thinking I may move Pistol Whipped up

    by just pillow talk

    to view in my next go-around of movies. Think I need to see the pony-tail in action.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:27:21 AM CDT

    Has anyone seen The Lives Of Others?

    by lost jarv

    Lovefilm bumped City of Men off and replaced it with this. Is it any good?And they bumped The Car down the list, but replaced that with Exorcist 3 so I'm not too upset on that one.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:28:37 AM CDT

    Pillow did you watch 10,000 BC?

    by toadkillerdog

    I have not seen that one. I have heard bad things about it as well.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:30:50 AM CDT

    toad - yes, skip it

    by just pillow talk

    It was not the chaotic mess I had hoped for...just a bland movie..not even any funny kills. The only thing that made me chuckle was the blind seer they had tucked underneath the floor in a city holding cell. They took him out...he said a few things...guards were coming back, so they tucked him underneath the floor again.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:34:54 AM CDT

    damn...who knew I'd rather do school work

    by just pillow talk

    than watch a movie. Governmental Accounting never sounded so...er....good?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:37:36 AM CDT

    Lives of Others

    by jonah echo

    Jarv, Lives of Others is a phenomenal film. I was originally indignant when it won best foreign oscar over Pan's Labyrinth, but when I finally saw it I understood. It's really something special. And it's better than City of Men(which was good, but not THAT good).

    And Exorcist 3 is brilliant just because it has George C. Scott barking irritatedly at Satan. Geez, I love that movie.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:39:55 AM CDT

    The Other Missed Movie

    by medianerd

    Following that money link in the letter...why did I not know about a Houdini movie starring Guy Pearce? That alone sounds brilliant. Good for you standing up for what you believe in Moriarty. The marketing system in films needs to be re-created as the current format is less then ideal.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:44:18 AM CDT

    Toad

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Did you see Invisible Target yet? If not, that should be number one on your list. Sorry about CoV. It started off slow and had trouble keeping my attention at times but that knife fight at the end was a great payoff. However, I can totally see where you're coming from.You won't get burned with Invisible Target though (has ANYONE seen it?) as people are blown away while the opening credits are still rolling.Flash Point is a mixed bag. Some very good fight scenes and an actual story but I found the story muddled as hell so I was disappointed and have trouble recommending it beyond the third act.I've heard good things about The Lives of Others.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:47:13 AM CDT

    romeo must die has grace park kissing another girl

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 22, 2008 9:47:43 AM CDT

    A friend who just returned from overseas

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Brought me a copy of Doomsday that looks......er......pirated. I'm thinking of bringing a bottle of rum upstairs and watching that tonight.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:56:44 AM CDT

    Don't forget Jonah..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Exorcist 3 also has one of the biggest 'jump' scenes I have ever winessed. I dropped my drink when I saw it. You know the one I'm talking about in the hospital...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:02:24 AM CDT

    So I'll watch it rather than just return it

    by lost jarv

    Admittedly COM was picked because of City of God.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:05:22 AM CDT

    The Lives Of Others

    by hobocode

    Indeed it's a fantastic film with a great twist at the end. I personally would say Pan's Labyrinth is better but both are phenomenal.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:05:52 AM CDT

    I've moved up Invisible Target in Flashpoint's place

    by just pillow talk

  • Jul 22, 2008 10:06:53 AM CDT

    I'm not knocking it,

    by lost jarv

    but it pisses me off that Lovefilm arbitrarily takes off mine and the missus' selections for what they think we want to watch. If this was the first time I'd be OK, but they swapped in Ordinary People. I sat through it and fucking hated every boring second. I did enjoy Amadeus last weekend, though.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:08:33 AM CDT

    Doomsday

    by lost jarv

    absolutely requires Alcohol. Stupid mess does not even begin to describe it. I totally enjoyed it, though. HAving said this, Rhona Mitra is a complete fucking talent vacuum, and hopelessly miscast. She is very easy on the eye though.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:11:43 AM CDT

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    Thanks dude. Yes, the ending scene of CoV was almost worth slogging through the rest of the movie. Hell, just watch that sceen and forget the rest of the movie!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:14:00 AM CDT

    and now I think about it

    by lost jarv

    the shitheels have still not got Army of Darkness.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:16:18 AM CDT

    Fred watched City of Violence too

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred not like it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:17:33 AM CDT

    Pans is better than Lives

    by jonah echo

    but I could understand how it won over Pan's. Unlike other choices the Academy makes, where you sit there, just amazed. Crash over any of those other movies for example.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:17:48 AM CDT

    Fred just watched Army of Darkness on Free movie channel

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred enjoyed that. Fred enjoyed Bubba HoTep too.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:19:02 AM CDT

    Hello Jonah Echo

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Will this TB turn into another B movie love-a-thon?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:19:34 AM CDT

    So when do we all don John Hurt

    by jonah echo

    and Ron Perlman masks(and some dress as Jesus for good measure) and unite outside the Weinstein offices demanding the release of Outlander?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:20:40 AM CDT

    On a slightly different note

    by lost jarv

    There's been an overabundance of stupidity around here recently. The latest piece is Harry (himself) thinking that I Know What You Did Last Summer is better than Scream- and a load of morons crawled out from under their rocks to agree with him. This shit is maddening, even if you take into account all the flaws in Scream, it was still an important piece of cinema. Does no-one remember the state of Horror before it? In fact, looking at the current state of horror, we could almost do with another one.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:20:52 AM CDT

    I support the cause..so lets do it..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 22, 2008 10:21:09 AM CDT

    Please no Crash hate AGAIN.

    by hobocode

    That argumant is as stale as day old bread. Besides only latently racist assholes with no taste hated Crash.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:21:19 AM CDT

    the b-movie discussion, I mean...not

    by jonah echo

    the hurt mask debacle.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:22:27 AM CDT

    Hobo..you know me at this point..

    by jonah echo

    Im just pointing out I personally didnt think it was as good as the other choices. I didnt even say anything negative about it, except it was out of it's league. I think that is acceptable.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:22:33 AM CDT

    that was a bit pompous

    by lost jarv

    what I meant is that Scream neatly killed off all the tired conventions that were in every fucking movie before it. It was a genuinly good film, albeit one that hasn't aged well. I don't blame Scream for it's sequels, or knock offs (IKWYDLS, Cherry Falls, Valentine, and so forth)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:22:55 AM CDT

    IKWYDLS better than Scream???

    by hobocode

    You've got to be kidding me? WTF? Ignorance is rampant on this site lately isn't it?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:23:49 AM CDT

    I know Jonah.

    by hobocode

    I was just teasing.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:23:52 AM CDT

    Bubba Ho-Tep

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Now there's a movie that deserves more love. Me and the mates were laughing like fiends from beginning to end. I should dust it off this week.An online rental service that removes your choices for their own doesn't seen right to me. The first time they did that, I'd drop a steaming dump in their envelope and send the movie back.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:25:36 AM CDT

    Fred not see Crash.

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    What made Scream so important? It not seem that much to Fred?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:25:59 AM CDT

    Actually, on Crash

    by lost jarv

    As much as I didn't like it- I think it is probably the best film of those nominated that year- Brokeback Mountain bored me to tears, Munich is heavily flawed, Capote overrated, and I haven't seen Good Night and Good Luck. It isn't better than Tsotsi though, but that was foriegn language.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:26:18 AM CDT

    I don't think Crash deserved to win the Oscar either.

    by hobocode

    Brokeback was EXTREMELY overrated. It should have gone to Capote.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:28:06 AM CDT

    I saw scream for the first time on cable a few years ago

    by toadkillerdog

    I am not a Teen horror flick afficiando, so it did nothing for me. I did chuckle a few times though.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:28:47 AM CDT

    Fred

    by lost jarv

    Scream was important because of the state of horror before it. The late eighties/ early nineties were not good times for the horror movie. All that came out were tired, shitey, derivative slasher movies (really, halloween has a lot to answer for). The postmodern structure of scream, although it became tiresome very fucking quickly, gave them an opportunity to basically deconstruct and debunk all the conventions. And they took it brilliantly. At the time, Scream felt fresh, funny, innovative. Now it feels trite and hackneyed due to the endless imitations. But it really was a watershed movie.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:29:06 AM CDT

    I was knocked flat by Capote.

    by hobocode

    And I wish harm on anyone who says that elitist bullshit Infamous was the better film.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:29:32 AM CDT

    Scream needs looking at in context

    by lost jarv

    Now, it aint so much. Back then? It was a very, very good fucking thing.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:30:06 AM CDT

    yea, I guess crash and brokeback were in

    by jonah echo

    the same league. I skip over them and think of Munich, Capote and Good Night, all of which I quite liked. But hey, Im the freak that would have nominated King Kong if you let me.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:30:17 AM CDT

    Infamous was not better than Capote

    by lost jarv

    but the central performance was almost as good as Hoffman's.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:31:32 AM CDT

    Of that year-

    by lost jarv

    the nomination list was suprisingly poor. It's almost as bad as when Million Dollar Baby won. No way in fuck was that the best film. And don't get me started on Forrest Gump/ Titanic etc. You can do this all day.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:31:37 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv summed up Scream perfectly.

    by hobocode

  • Jul 22, 2008 10:31:42 AM CDT

    Crash almost seemed racist to me

    by hawaiian organ donor

    From the get-go of two black men brazenly robbing a rich white couple on a CROWDED city street and then ending with an Asian man rear-ending a black woman who tells him to speak "American." To me they were defeating the purpose with that heavy-handed, ham-fisted B.S. And with everyone bumping into each other all the time, they should have called the movie Coincidence.I Know What You Did had one thing and one thing only worth nothing and we all know they should have been freed from those tight t-shirts.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:34:03 AM CDT

    or The Departed

    by lost jarv

    sheesh, what a crap shortlist that was: Departed, The Queen (overrated- and fisticuffs with anyone that says otherwise, Little Miss Sunshine, Babel, and Letters From Iwo Jima- which should have won)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:34:09 AM CDT

    Never got the teen horror...

    by jonah echo

    Saw Scream and liked some things about it, and thought it was o.k. Saw IKWYDLS and thought, crap, someone managed to botch the hook killer story. How?

    And here is the part where I say something that questions all I have ever said before.

    My fave of the teen slasher/horror films from the late 90s was...Urban Legend. I kid you not. I loved that POS. So earnest, and so wacky, and yet the technical credits are good, the college kids all look like they are 30, and it has quite a collection of horror icons. Gotta love any movie where Robert Englund, Jeffrey Combs, and Brad Dourif are innocent and *SPOILER* Rebecca Gayheart is the killer.

    God Bless Urban Legend.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:35:13 AM CDT

    two things.

    by lost jarv

  • Jul 22, 2008 10:36:02 AM CDT

    I like Urban Legend,

    by lost jarv

    but it owes an awful fucking lot to Scream. It could almost have been called Scream 2 1/2

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:36:58 AM CDT

    Letters from Iwo Jima

    by hobocode

    That movie was a damned masterpiece. Should have won.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:37:02 AM CDT

    Urban Legend 2

    by lost jarv

    I think I'm the only person on the planet that has seen this, and the delightful Ms Gayheart (who makes me happy in the pants, and I don't know why) only has a cameo.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:38:03 AM CDT

    IKWYDLS 2 was actually better than the 1st one.

    by hobocode

    Of course take that with a grain of salt.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:38:16 AM CDT

    Really, though

    by lost jarv

    when have the Academy ever given it to the right film? I struggle to think of one winner that you can absolutely say was the best film of it's year.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:39:13 AM CDT

    Didn't Urban Legend also have Alicia Witt?

    by hobocode

    That gets my vote.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:39:23 AM CDT

    Lost..

    by jonah echo

    I agree, but it wasn't so hip and self aware. I agree that making some self aware caused others to reexamine the genre, but I've always loved it more when those actors and writers at least appear to think they making some great and watching it spin witlessly out of control. I agree UL is the dumb cousin of the brainy smarmy Scream. But when growing up I had a braniac cousin who loved to try and write poems, and come over to our house and read, or point out the futility of everything you would say. IT WAS NO FUN. The dumb cousin loved to get us to ride four wheelers through the woods, each of us carrying a bb gun to try and pick the other one off with. That was fun. I think you see the poin. Or my childhood was nuts.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:39:25 AM CDT

    IKWYDLS2

    by lost jarv

    Has some redeeming features- (The audience knows from the start the holiday is bullshit, because the 2 cretins didn't know the capital of Brasil). But the white Rasta kid makes me want to throw the telly out the window.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:40:40 AM CDT

    Jonah,

    by lost jarv

    yes, but we talk about Shlock endlessly- and fucking none of it is ever a slasher pick from before Scream. Now it comes across as smug and overly pleased with itself, but at the time it was totally necessary.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:41:03 AM CDT

    Lost..

    by jonah echo

    I know will there be those that disagree, but correct best film(at least out of the choices):

    Return of the King

    ok...Im done.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:41:32 AM CDT

    Urban Legend

    by lost jarv

    had Alicia Witt and a completely pointless (even more so than usual) Jared Leto.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:41:54 AM CDT

    Mori...good letter, excellent points.

    by ninja nerd

    Outlander sounds like the Beowulf movie I want to see. The 3D flick out last year was good, but this movie just sounds cool as hell. As for the Weinsteins...they're probably every bit the whack jobs portrayed in the book "Down And Dirty Pictures". If they actually knew what they were doing, and didn't trash everyone around them, they would own Disney and or whatever they wanted. "Rounders" is a good example...Matt Damon was hot after "Good Will Hunting" but Miramax failed to market "Rounders" and AMAZINGLY, it didn't have a strong box office. And yet, it's on cable every week and I routinely get into doing John Malkovich dialogue while playing poker at the casino. Bottom line...the letter is dead on. Good job, man.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:43:27 AM CDT

    I know there are positive reviews on the DVD box

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But I'm beginning to think I'm the only person on the planet that was floored by Munich. It had more than a few flaws but Spielberg showed he's master in more than a few scenes. It wasn't the best movie that year but it's my favorite by far of the films nominated.And Capote was fantastic. Between Hoffman and the guy who played the killer he was interviewing I was in awe.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:44:04 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by hobocode

    Well they did give it to Return of the King, which felt justified, but Master and Commander deserved to win for sure.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:44:11 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by jonah echo

    yea, that's what I said. It was necessary, but it wasn't persay fun. For example, the smart cousin was far more useful in the long run, once I actually contemplated the fact I might live past 16 and need to do something wothwhile.

    Also, there was a ton of schlock that predated Scream that was very similar. There is even an 80s attempt to do the same thing as Scream. It was called Student Bodies, and if you see it, then you have an appreciation for Scream and how well it handled the whole thing. Me, I actually preferred Scream 2. Thought the characters were better.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:44:22 AM CDT

    NO.

    by lost jarv

    Return of The King won because Fellowship, which should have, didn't. Off that year's list it should have been Master and Commander

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:46:33 AM CDT

    Rounders was one of Norton's best

    by chittychittygangbang

    It blew my mind that wasn't a top five movie at the box office. I didn't really know about it until it was on VHS and DVD.
    It was worth just to see Malcovich say "Mr. Son of Beech...I stick it to you."

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:46:34 AM CDT

    Lost..

    by jonah echo

    maybe, but I think ROTK was a slightly better movie than M&C. Barely matters. Both were excellent. And we all know that League of Extraordinary Gentleman should have won every award for anything ever that year.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:46:47 AM CDT

    I love Student Bodies

    by lost jarv

    and it is ahead of it's time. If Scream had been made at the same time, it would have also fallen off the radar. Basically, it's folly to say in any way shape or form that Last Summer is better. Scream had a young Rose McGowan crushed in a garage door- which is still one of my favourite deaths.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:46:54 AM CDT

    Unforgiven also managed to win.

    by hobocode

    That was the right choice for sure.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:47:45 AM CDT

    ROTK

    by lost jarv

    again, though, that wasn't a great list. REally, the Best Film in any fucking language released that year was City of God.The Academy sucks. Frankly.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:49:10 AM CDT

    and Silence of the Lambs.

    by hobocode

  • Jul 22, 2008 10:49:18 AM CDT

    Unforgiven is the exception that proves the rule

    by lost jarv

    How the fuck did A few Good Men get on that list?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:49:34 AM CDT

    Shakespeare in Love won..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Thank god, because I was so worried that they might give it to Saving Private Ryan.
    Dear God I am very much joking of course.
    Actually it hurt to write that even in jest.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:50:51 AM CDT

    City of God

    by hobocode

    Definitely the best that year but it was not eligible becasue of some bullshit loophole if I recall. either that or Brazil shafted it becasue of it's perceived negative depiction of Rio.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:50:54 AM CDT

    Last time the Academy got it 100% right

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was 15 years ago. Incredibly enough, they got it right two years in a row with Unforgiven and Schindler's. Since then, only Gladiator and Return of the King haven't bothered me but they were NOT the best films either year.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:51:08 AM CDT

    eh, we will just make oursevles bitter..

    by jonah echo

    lets get back to b-movies and little movies that could.

    Speaking of which, any fans of the original Trancers here? The movie before all the crummy sequels? It had Tim Thomerson and a young Helen Hunt. A fun sci-fi movie that sadly never truly got the props it deserved.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:51:55 AM CDT

    I was going to type

    by lost jarv

    that Silence of The Lambs is way overrated and should not have won, but I've just looked at the other nominees which, aside from Beauty and The Beast, were drivel. But there were better films from that year not nominated

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:53:23 AM CDT

    I love Scanner Force

    by lost jarv

    That naked Scanner bird that takes the psycho pills to control her headache was awesome.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:53:52 AM CDT

    Jarv..

    by jonah echo

    there are always better movies nominated. Incidentally, I think this year mostly did well with nominating both No Country and There Will Be Blood. In fact, if we could have traded out Michael Clayton for Jesse James, it would have been a great representation of the year, I think.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:54:31 AM CDT

    I quite like Shakespeare in Love

    by lost jarv

    that Masters I got in English Literature was stroked like a cat by that film- Webster torturing mice etc. If ever there's a smug over-educated film, it's that one.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:54:46 AM CDT

    sorry I meant..

    by jonah echo

    there are always better movies that are NOT nominated

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:55:58 AM CDT

    This year wasn't a bad try

    by lost jarv

    and it's a fucking scandal that none of the Scanners films have been looked at. They're all good. I kind of think Cronenburg was a bit robbed with Eastern Promises this year. And Fincher was absolutely snubbed with Zodiac.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:57:02 AM CDT

    Perhaps 2008 has just been strong full stop

    by lost jarv

    It has needed to be after years of fucking horrible shite.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:57:23 AM CDT

    So, how bout some low budget sci-fi

    by jonah echo

    that got it right? Maybe some people aren't so familiar with? Obviously we all know Pitch Black and Terminator.

    One I rather liked a bit from recent years was The Final Cut. Anyone agree?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:57:26 AM CDT

    Trancers also had Telma Hopkins

    by chittychittygangbang

    Who played Aunt Rachel in Family Matters. She is also the female voice that shouts 'Shut yo mouth' in the Shaft theme song.
    Thought I would throw that out there.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:58:05 AM CDT

    2004 was the worst year ever

    by hawaiian organ donor

    There was not a single film nominated that was ever remotely the best film of the year. Looking at that list makes me cut myself.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:58:53 AM CDT

    Never saw the Final cut

    by lost jarv

    Wonder why. This is fucking ironic- shlock TB regulars discussing high-brow entertainment.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:59:06 AM CDT

    Arrrrggh...You are right Jarv...I forgot

    by jonah echo

    ZODIAC!!! That was true blue robbery. Zodiac was amazing, and gets moreso each time I see it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:00:42 AM CDT

    Eternal Sunshine or The Incredibles

    by lost jarv

    are both better than every film on the best film list. Fucking horrible. The Aviator especially. Of that list, as shit as it is, Million Dollar Baby probably is the best.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:01:47 AM CDT

    Michael Clayton was deserved.

    by hobocode

    Great fucking movie.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:01:57 AM CDT

    Jarv..

    by jonah echo

    the reason, and it touches upon what Mori discusses above, is that what you have here aren't just schlock lovers, but movie lovers. Sometimes you will be surprised by the people who would go see Shakespeare in Love, and then duck back in to go check out The Faculty, or vice versa.

    Also, did it ever dawn on anyone that the way to have done Grindhouse was not to make two imitators but take lowbudget fare like this, and pair it together with something else. I guess in the day of the absentee drive-in, this wouldnt work.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:02:41 AM CDT

    If you swapped Atonement, Juno and Michael Clayton

    by lost jarv

    for Jesse James, Zodiac and Eastern Promises then that's probably the best 5 films of 2007-2008

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:03:47 AM CDT

    I liked The Faculty

    by lost jarv

    *runs away in ......* NO, FUCK IT, "MY NAME IS JARV AND I LIKED THE FACULTY"

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:03:48 AM CDT

    Silence of the Lambs overrated?!

    by hobocode

    Looks like I'll be having my old friend Lost Jarv for dinner. pfht pfht pfht phfht.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:04:48 AM CDT

    Manhunter> Silence of The Lambs

    by lost jarv

    and on Grindhouse, what they should have done was bin that shitty Tarantino effort. It was Death Proof that killed it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:05:18 AM CDT

    I would love it if they did that again

    by lost jarv

    sadly, those days are gone.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:06:16 AM CDT

    I mostly liked The Faculty too..

    by jonah echo

    mostly. It was a bit sloppy. My point was that not everyone breaks down into "Loves Transformers but can't read a subtitle even if it was showing up to inform him the theater was on fire and he must leave" to "I play all of Ozu's films on a giant screen above my head while I sleep every night". Start getting creative with your marketing and see that there has to be an overlap somewhere.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:06:54 AM CDT

    Manhunter > Red Dragon

    by chittychittygangbang

    But I still would have to place Silence of the Lambs ahead of it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:07:28 AM CDT

    My heart was cheered..

    by jonah echo

    when Sigourney got the nom for Aliens, or when Depp got nommed for Sparrow, but let's face it, the Academy is still far away from doing the right thing by genre films. If Dark Knight gets a best picture nom, that will be in the right direction, but I'm not holding my breath.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:08:07 AM CDT

    How about Visting Hours with the great Michael Ironside?

    by toadkillerdog

    Not to mention the even greater Shat!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:09:20 AM CDT

    Yes, Zodiac was robbed

    by chittychittygangbang

    But maybe it was its release date. Wasn't it the deadzone as far as voters remembering it?
    That scene with the couple enjoying the outdoors and the killer shows up...wow.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:09:55 AM CDT

    Has A genre film ever won anything

    by lost jarv

    Seriously, and some of them are in the Unarguably best fucking films of all time list. (2001 leaping to mind)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:11:44 AM CDT

    Sci-Fi will always rule some parts...

    by chittychittygangbang

    It's like the Oscar voters are content to throw it all the technical awards and think that is good enough.
    I think if a movie is good enough, then who cares what genre it is from?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:12:19 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by lost jarv

    totally agree, and the marketing for shlock is tricky- see the Snakes on a Plane fiasco. But how on earth are the likes of me (and I bet it never even gets a UK release), ever going to see it if they don't tell us about it, or put it on a fucking screen. It's daft. And surely this must impact on DVD sales?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:13:47 AM CDT

    Hannibal Ranking

    by hobocode

    Silence of the Lambs > Manhunter > Hannibal > Red Dragon

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:14:04 AM CDT

    what I particularly loathe

    by lost jarv

    are actors that take roles because they are Oscar Bait (Forrest Gump leaping to mind). Has anyone seen Death of a Salesman with Dustin Hoffman and John Malkovich. It's ok- but watch Rain Man straight afterwards and tell me that Hoffman isn't repeating his exact Willy Loman Performance. It's a joke.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:14:46 AM CDT

    Node

    by lost jarv

    Manhunter> Silence> Hannibal> RD> Hannibal Rising

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:15:31 AM CDT

    but really, the top 2

    by lost jarv

    are so far ahead of the others it's astounding. And that's despite Oldman's deranged turn in Hannibal.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:18:20 AM CDT

    Gladiator and ROTK are genre that won

    by toadkillerdog

    I think that Fellowship was better than either ROTK or Two Towers - but I actually enjoyed Two Towers more.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:19:44 AM CDT

    yea, and then even when something does get nommed..

    by jonah echo

    they always seem to take other factors into consideration..For example, regardless of how witless you think Transformers was, the fx work was far beyond Golden Compass. But the Academy, probably feeling upset that a toy commerical even got nominated, gave it to the aetheist Coke commercial instead.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:20:25 AM CDT

    You know, Red Dragon should be good

    by chittychittygangbang

    I looked at the cast of that movie and thought 'wow!'
    I then went to theater and thought 'Meh.'
    It pissed me off because that should have been at least a very good flick.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:21:06 AM CDT

    Hobo

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You're the first guy around here (other than myself) who enjoyed Michael Clayton. I'm not sure if it's due to the Clooney backlash (which I've never understood, I think he's a great actor and who cares if he mugs it up) or because people thought it was boring. Jesse James was boring as f**k but in the best possible way because it was also gripping as hell and possibly the best movie of the year behind Zodiac.Folks who hated Michael Clayton need to read the script. It's one of the best I've ever read only a retard thinks that Juno junk was more well written.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:21:31 AM CDT

    Manhunter is simply off the charts good

    by toadkillerdog

    And I love Silence and I will fistfight or at least thumb my nose, at anyone who says it is not a good movie. But Manhunter is out of left field great. Totally unexpected. What the hell ever happened to Demme?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:23:14 AM CDT

    Not quite.

    by docpazuzu

    My bender doesn't get launched until Tuesday next week -- 13 days with a huge, fuck-off pile of DVDs, booze, unhealthy food and no wife and kid. I might add that for eight of those days, I'm off work.

    Oh yes.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:23:59 AM CDT

    I like Michael Clayton

    by lost jarv

    but I don't think it's better than Zodiac, Eastern promises, or Jesse James. Juno is dreadful. Sorry, but it is.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:24:27 AM CDT

    Jonah - Visiting Hours

    by toadkillerdog

    Candadian! Ironside! Horror! Shat! What more can you ask for?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:25:08 AM CDT

    Sorry Doc,

    by lost jarv

    thought it was today. Mine starts friday with Batman marathon, then Dark Knight Saturday and then into a Mcclure Marathon as I have next week off.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:25:42 AM CDT

    Doc! Old home week around here now. Where is Danny and Abom?

    by toadkillerdog

    Lets get the party started!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:26:55 AM CDT

    Tilda Swinton was fucking great in MC

    by lost jarv

    there can be no denying this.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:28:29 AM CDT

    Off home,

    by lost jarv

    This has been a great TB. See you tomorrow. Bitchslap Memories if he shows up.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:29:27 AM CDT

    Michael Clayton and Visiting Hours

    by jonah echo

    Im sorry. I forgot about Juno. Michael Clayton was a great movie. I'm actually recalling the nominated movie differently. Part of my clouded brain actually thought Into the Wild was nominated. I liked all the nominees, even Juno, but Michael Clayton was better than Juno and Atonement. Nix my statement above.

    And Visiting Hours is worthy, and creepy. It's a hospital based thriller mostly. Ironside was super creepy. And the Shat was shatting his heart out in that one. As always. It's a good slasher. A bit more unsettling than most, probably due to the creepy score and lighting.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:33:13 AM CDT

    Yes, he shat himself in that movie.

    by toadkillerdog

    I remember that like yesterday. It was a very creepy movie, that holds up very well. Not very well known though.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:34:56 AM CDT

    NO movies last year were as good as Zodiac or Jesse James

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Which is all the more infuriating since neither of them was nominated.And what kind of voting wanker thinks Juno was better than Eastern Promises, 3:10 To Yuma, Gone Baby Gone, Into the Wild and The Great Debaters? Christ, Charlie Wilson's War and American Gangster were better than that tripe. Such a good year for movies for a change and sewage gets the nod.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:39:03 AM CDT

    TAOJJBTCRF

    by hobocode

    I wanted to like it and I did for the most part. I thought it had some insanely greta moments. And Zoe Deschanel is unrecognizable (thankfully) in her small role. but the actual scene where Ford kills JJ is annoying as fuck. I mean what was a brutally honest and relaistic account up until that point seemed to jerk into a surreal fantasy at that point.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:40:24 AM CDT

    Node

    by toadkillerdog

    BraneRobot would be proud of the way you are slapping USC around! Just kidding, but that guy really does need a timeout.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:40:39 AM CDT

    Fuck I need to proofread.

    by hobocode

  • Jul 22, 2008 11:43:03 AM CDT

    USC is a fucking moron.

    by hobocode

    Insinuating The Dark Knight is a conservative propaganda piece for illegal spying and torture is beyond imbecilic.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:47:37 AM CDT

    My top 10 of 2007 were:

    by hobocode

    1. There Will Be Blood
    2. No End in Sight
    3. Zodiac
    4. Once
    5. Michael Clayton
    6. The Mist
    7. Gone Baby Gone
    8. Sicko
    9. Eastern Promises
    10. No Country for Old Men

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:48:07 AM CDT

    The stars are in alignment for a return to the days of yore

    by toadkillerdog

    When battle royale waged across the TB landscape. BSB is back from honeymoon. I'm back from vacation. Brane has resurfaced as BlackCrippler. Morbid and Chrism nowhere to be found though. But new trolls on the left and right are coming out of the woodwork.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:58:43 AM CDT

    Agreed on There Will Be Blood

    by chittychittygangbang

    Thought it could be overhyped buzz about movie, but then I watched it.
    Wow, to see the tranformation from smiling and feeding his son in the tent at the begining and talking to him at his desk in the end...
    Very much love this movie.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:16:16 PM CDT

    Hobo

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Damn fine list. Don't think it would match 100% mine but I can't disagree with a single choice. How freakin rare is that on a TB?And Once should have earned the spot Juno had.I stopped reading TDK thread because of USC. He's an ass.

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  • Dear FlipZide Pictures,

    Producing crap like Extreme Movie and Autopsy doesn't seem to have lessened your appetite for shit-tastic screenplays. Please don't waste the $23005 you were going to invest to make Drew McWeeny's laughably bad "Bat Out of Hell" script. No one wants to see another bad Twilight Zone episode ripoff. And if you do make it, please let us know when it has its world premiere on Showtime so we can cancel our subscriptions in advance.

    Sincerely,

    Horror Movie Fans Everywhere

    ps- Hey Bore-iarty, if you're going to pretend that all of the talkbackers slamming your asinine opinion doesn't bruise your fragile ego, you might want to avoid replying to each one individually, like some 12 year old girl crying on her myspace.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:25:20 PM CDT

    Jarv - IKWYDLS2

    by spud mcspud

    That fiat white Rasta kid was Jack Black. Yes, it was.

    Agree with you on SCREAM - awesome at the time, more a video curio now. Though Jamie Kennedy is talking up a SCREAM 4 that the studio is supposedly trying to keep on the down low - and they won't make it without Wes Craven!

    Hopefully the ELM ST 1 and SCREAM Craven, NOT the CURSED and SHOCKER Craven. Okay, I DID like SHOCKER.

    Oh, and to paraphrase the Commitments: Say it once, say it loud. I LIKED THE FACULTY AND I'M PROUD!!!

    Proud, I telss ya. "Showdown..."

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:26:49 PM CDT

    FATFUCK was on here yesterday, toad.

    by hobocode

    I can't remember where though. I didn't confront him. Where was BlackCrippler? Is it really Branes.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:29:02 PM CDT

    CCGB - There Will Be Blood

    by spud mcspud

    Haven't yet seen it, but EMPIRE did their usual fucked-up spoiler thing and printed the last scene of the movie in their mag last month. I read it, couldn't believe how funny it sounded, then watched it with no context whatsoever on YouTube. I damn near pissed myself laughing. Then I found a version where someone looped the DDL dancing towards the other guy bit so it looked like he was dancing, and put Kelis' MILKSHAKE over it. Even fucking funnier. So now I don't know if I dare watch the movie, because no matter how dramatic and awesome it is, that ending may still make me howl with laughter.

    "I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE! DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAAAAAAGE!!!"

    Should I just STFU and watch it? Is it really THAT great?!?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:30:50 PM CDT

    Node and top ten list...

    by just pillow talk

    I've only seen three of those movies...sigh..I loved Zodiac and Eastern Promises...but I didn't like Sicko at all.And Jesse James...I don't know what it is, but the performances were of course top-notch...but it was just an okay movie for me. Frankly, it was too boring for me in spots that seemed to take the wind out of my sails a bit. And I think the continuation of the movie after Jesse was killed...I know, I know, it was about Robert Ford...but I think that took away from my experience. I was just left with a "it was okay" taste in my mouth.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:31:30 PM CDT

    toadkillerdog

    by spud mcspud

    I'm hoping to see Tegujai Batir and Smashing again at the annual Flame Wars, in the honourable "For and Against: the Dr Who RTD Gay Agenda TB" section. I was actually stalked by that Batir dude across several TBs, and that was strangely creepy. Every comment I made, the fucker replied!

    Ah, those were the days. Nowadays, everyone's so goshdarned polite.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:32:16 PM CDT

    still haven't seen Michael Clayton

    by just pillow talk

    Heard good things about it, and count me as someone who likes Georgie's work.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:33:13 PM CDT

    HoboCode

    by spud mcspud

    Wow. I actually haven't seen ANY of those movies. Call me an iverse movie snob - I avoid anything arthousey or overly Oscar-baiting.

    I know, I know, I'm missing out...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:34:33 PM CDT

    Iverse = Inverse

    by spud mcspud

    I needs me a new keyboard...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:38:42 PM CDT

    For Drew and the rest that want to support OUTLANDER

    by turd furgusen

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2385224410

    I'm sure myspace has one too. If you want to do something and get the word out, here's your chance. I'll do my part to support it. Grassroots has worked in the past.

    Get enough people to become "aware" of this movie. If they like the idea then great, if not, also great. The point is, the more people you can share this with, the more likely 50 theaters will get expanded to 100 or more and at least give the movie a chance.

    That's all Drew is asking in that letter. I support him because I liked the concept and look of the movie. If you don't like the movie, but have a friend that might, let them know about the project.

    Again, I could be wrong, but Mori's letter is a just a plea to give the movie a chance. It's buried without marketing, and it looks like word of mouth is the only marketing it is going to get.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:40:40 PM CDT

    TKD

    by xiphos_2

    I noticed that morbidobesity was in a TV Tb I skimmed the other day.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:41:39 PM CDT

    TKD Never mind

    by xiphos_2

    I see Node already posted this. Note to self read entire TB before posting.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 12:48:34 PM CDT

    You guys I had a dream about Inglorious Basterds

    by theredtoad

    I pictured the film in my head. I saw the stars being Ving Rhames, George Foreman, Leo DiCaprio, and Sly. It was AWESOME!!!!!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:00:40 PM CDT

    OUTLANDER Looks Pretty Sweet!

    by kissman24

    After watching 2 trailers to this film, I would definitely pay to see this one.

    I really like the premise and I especially like that it isn't a cookie-cutter 'dragon', but purposely different-looking because it's an alien creature.

    If marketed properly, I think it could at least make its money back just in US theaters alone.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:06:28 PM CDT

    Spud trust me on TWBB

    by chittychittygangbang

    Yes, I had heard of the 'Ill drink your Milkshake!' quote.
    But I was so into the movie I didn't laugh until afterwards.
    Trust me, never go bowling at Plainviews house if he holds a grudge against you.
    Trust me....

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:07:41 PM CDT

    Hey Xi!

    by toadkillerdog

    Good to see you man. There are som low level trolls that are keeping the place hopping, but nothing like the all out Brane wars. But you know it is coming. Spud, I am not familiar with the TB'ers you mentioned, but there are plenty of trolls to go around.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:27:06 PM CDT

    Set Photos from Outlander- SPOILERS!

    by turd furgusen

    http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=2385224410&view=all

    Some pretty cools shots. There are some pictures that may give away some plot points. That's why I gave a warning. Look at page seven for a very cool concept art of the Moorwen.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:36:37 PM CDT

    Facebook won't link for me..

    by chittychittygangbang

    SPOILER ALERT!!!!
    G4tv.com has an interview with designer Patrick Tatopoulos and it shows a model of the Moorwen.
    I like the way it looks fast, yet muscular and strong.
    Damn, I'm getting more and more excited about this flick.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 1:49:21 PM CDT

    the moorwen story/reveal is pretty good sounding

    by ironic_name

    see it if you can, CAV IS SUPES!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:03:08 PM CDT

    Chitty....

    by turd furgusen

    Just go to facebook and do a search for OUTLANDER.

    You'll see the movie poster and link to the photos. There are some pretty good shots.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:16:35 PM CDT

    If this thing gets a big release

    by jonah echo

    we should, as much as is possible, synchronize some screenings for it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:19:45 PM CDT

    And we are catching up with the dark knight talkback..

    by jonah echo

    bangarang!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:26:40 PM CDT

    I wonder if Moorwen...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Is it intelligent like the Predator, or more like Xenomorph from Alien?
    Damn I dig movies like this. Creature design trumps Cloverfield design in my humble opinion.
    Almost like Vermithrax Pejorative's pups and Dogs from Ghostbusters.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:30:31 PM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    that is some delicious creature design. Also the story, if done well, is so much fun! In recent years we have had The Host, Cloverfield, The Mist. I never imagined that Outlander would be anything other than sludge until I saw the trailer. It's exciting to think this might be a good time.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:33:28 PM CDT

    Jonah, I don't think you understand...

    by chittychittygangbang

    How much I love creature features.
    If it is a good creature design and performs well, I will forgive a tremendous amount of shoddy script, bad acting and lack of nudity.
    Hell, I loved Cloverfield and you barely got to see it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:35:47 PM CDT

    Also liked parts of Godzilla

    by chittychittygangbang

    Just when Godzilla first comes to the city and you're just catching glipmses of the design.
    See what I mean by forgiving a lot of movie tripe just for the creatures?
    Me admitting that should let you know how much fun I have watching these things fuck shit up.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:37:02 PM CDT

    Sorry Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But I jumped into that TDK thread to contribute. I'm a political animal and when people dangle it in my face, it's like taunting a junkyard dog with a steak.We don't get enough creature features.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:37:19 PM CDT

    Chitty...I have the same disease..

    by jonah echo

    I saw Darkness Falls and Virus in the theater, and if I could have actually seen the monster in Virus, I probably would have liked it.

    I'm just saying it's that much better when the monster has a good movie behind it. I'm such a sucker for creatures, that I even tried to watch AVP:R, much to my shame.

    Did you see The Host chitty? Loved that creature design.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:39:40 PM CDT

    What are you favorite designs Chitty

    by jonah echo

    one of mine is a bit of guilty pleasure, but it's the aliens from The Arrival, with their bendy knees.

    And despite the crappiness of the movie surrounding it, the robot dog from Red Planet is also fun.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:45:11 PM CDT

    Saw both AVP movies in theaters..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Took the wife to see AVP:R because I told her it had to be better than the first one.
    Bam! I lost that bet and had to go see TWO of her movies just even things out. Definatly Maybe was one of them and it was pretty good though so I didn't get payback too bad.
    Finally got my hands on The Host dvd and watched it three times the first night. Once with wife, then with borther-in-law and then after everyone was asleep with a big, straight glass of Blanton's whiskey.
    Loved the family almost as much as the creature.
    Man, when that thing spots them and starts swinging like Tarzan under the bridge...or the tension as the little girl is climbing over it...don't get me started, I can talk about that movie all day.
    Loved it, loved it, loved it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:53:30 PM CDT

    Favorite Designs...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Pumpkinhead, The Predator (original), Vermithrax Pejorative, It's Alive baby, The Host, exo skeleton suit ID4 aliens wore, The Relic, male dragon from Reign of Fire, Spinosaurus from JP3, heck all of the dinos from JP series, Harry and the Hendersons, Cloverfield, Imperial Walkers, Balrog from LOTR, War of the Worlds tripods.
    Damn, I'm rambling I need to step and think about this... and give top 5.
    Yes, that alien in the Ariival freaked me out with the bassackward legs, as did the long-legged alian from Close Encounters.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:56:49 PM CDT

    The Weinstein's Role with Outlander...

    by thead

    I think some things should be clear here. If OUTLANDER was actually the Weinstein's film, I could care less if they wanted to send it to DVD. But it ISN'T. Essentially OUTLANDER is indy funded through the Production company (which was not the Weinsteins, who are *only* the distributor for north america)
    The weinstein company invested early on in exchange for the north american distribution rights. Their stake lies in getting the film out there. They aren't just hurting themselves if they send it to DVD They're screwing over the company (Ascendant Pictures who also made the groovy lucky number slevin) that actually made the film. I know it cost's money to put a feature in theaters but I sincerely doubt that 1250 screens wouldn't make up the difference even if it flopped. I really don't think they would be any worse off than not giving the movie a chance at all. That's what pisses me off. Feelings about Moriarty's writup aside, I think the movie deserves that chance, and as a viewer, I think the suits should respect us enough to give us the option.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 2:59:32 PM CDT

    TheAD

    by chittychittygangbang

    Movies like this, I go to theater AND buy the DVD. So they get double the money from me.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:12:10 PM CDT

    And furthermore..

    by chittychittygangbang

    All the alien designs execept for the hybrid albino peice of shit at the end of Ressurection, Graboids from Tremors, King Kong, T-Rex's in King Kong, toy monkey in the Devil's Gift (Jonah's Fav!) I'll think of more in a sec...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:20:56 PM CDT

    If this is a disease, then I don't want a cure

    by chittychittygangbang

    Also it's OK to love your creature design, just don't loooove your creature design.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:28:36 PM CDT

    Chitty...all those are classics

    by jonah echo

    and the very height of monster perfection. Don't forget the old designs. Primitive, but good. The Cyclops from 7th Voyage, Ymir, Medusa, Pegasus, The Kracken, etc.

    And how bout this one not yet mentioned: The little troll from Cat's Eye. What a great little piece of work. Hellboy 2 is like an all you can eat buffet of creature design, Chitty.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:30:05 PM CDT

    The Monster from the Id

    by jonah echo

    in Forbidden Planet, it's invisible body caught in that energy field. And the mushroom people. ahhh, the mushroom people. And if you want to talk about a fun monster design, cheap as he may be, The Snakeman from Dreamscape. Oh, the memories.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:32:16 PM CDT

    the Rancor is also a great monster

    by jonah echo

    and The Thing...goodness how did I forget Carpenter's The Thing.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:32:34 PM CDT

    Cloverfield

    by turd furgusen

    Chitty,

    I thought the same thing when I saw this monster. I wish it had been the Cloverfield monster instead.
    I'm a huge creature feature nut too. It all stems from movies like"Creature from the Black Lagoon".

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:34:58 PM CDT

    Audrey II, Zuul, the Abyss aliens

    by jonah echo

    the Crites, Talos, Them, Zorgons, that crazy bat from Fright Night..PUGWORM from House II. In fact all those creatures: baby pterodactyl, skeletal horse. Awesome.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:36:32 PM CDT

    Which Cyclops died from big cat?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Which Cyclops died after trying to help out with the witch that turned into a sabretooth tiger?
    Damn, I remember feeling bad for the cyclops because he was just hanging out and helping and all.
    Also forgot I liked the Kraken from POTC too. Davey Jones rocked too.
    Speaking of energy field, I have the Johnny Quest episode on my ipod when they go to island and that one-eyed energy creature is tearing shit up. That thing scared me when I was kid.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:36:52 PM CDT

    PUGWORM FOR PRESIDENT

    by jonah echo

    Yea, the art of creature design is pretty much the thing that got me into movies. First movie I recall watching with my dad was King Kong, the original, and the obsession was born right there.

    And Chuck Russell's Blob was also gelatinously beautiful.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:38:05 PM CDT

    Sinbad and Eye of the Tiger

    by jonah echo

    and he was a trogolodyte. The Cyclops was killed by the dragon in 7th Voyage. How bout Loch Ness monster in 7 Faces of Dr. Lao?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:42:33 PM CDT

    Ohhh forgot these..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Winged creatures ridden by Ring Wraiths in LOTR movies.
    Also the Oliphants.
    T-100 without skin.
    I wished I could have seen the Sentinels in the training room in X-3.
    And can't forget the Iron Giant!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:45:47 PM CDT

    Sinbad!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Yes, that was it! Damn I was drawing a blank.
    Can't remember the Nessie from that movie, although I can't tell you the last time I have seen it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:46:41 PM CDT

    Jonah - TERROR VISION!

    by spud mcspud

    Loved that satellite-born alien monstrosity. Chuck Russell's BLOB ruled - some fantastic deaths in that movie! - and I'm a big fan of the mushroom-that-was-a-wizard in TROLL (was it called Selwyn or something?). KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE - great monsters!

    Even CLOVERFIELD was great. Yep, it's fair to say I loves me some monsters too.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:48:16 PM CDT

    CRITTERS...

    by spud mcspud

    ...They bite!

    Though didn't the Critters remind you of Fizzgig (furry ball with three sets of teeth) in the firt all-you-can-eat-creature-feature-buffet THE DARK CRYSTAL? Man, every single creature in that whole fucking movie was AWESOME!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 3:52:30 PM CDT

    Critters

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remember seeing that one that looked like a baby coming out of the tiolet.
    Of course it triggered my amazing fear of the baby in It's Alive. I thought of getting therapy to see why that baby scared me so much. Damn I was petrified of that damn thing!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:11:52 PM CDT

    you guys

    by ironic_name

    will never beat the oleg thread:

    http://tinyurl.com/6posda

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:14:31 PM CDT

    fuckin' tinyurl. here.

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/6q2qfv

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:16:45 PM CDT

    the man shut us down, so we went here

    by ironic_name

    http://zone.aintitcool.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=70645&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=3200

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:17:28 PM CDT

    Damn, I remember that thread

    by chittychittygangbang

    Funny stuff.
    Also remember some classic Transformer threads that just exploded and the vintage Cloverfield discussions.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:22:02 PM CDT

    Elmer in BRAIN DAMAGE

    by palimpsest

    And Jack in THE SHINING

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:22:54 PM CDT

    WNB

    by spud mcspud

    That must've been a US video box, 'cos if I saw that in the UK you KNOW I'd have got me one by now!

    I love TERRO VISION. It is unapologetically, unremittingly awful, but lovable for it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:23:40 PM CDT

    Go Mori

    by wcwlkr

    I don't always agree with your critiques, hell most of the time I flat out disagree. But I commend you for expressing your feelings on a film that you think should get a chance. I definitely agree with your point of the constant dumping of these films to video or limited release is why we get stuck with sequels and remakes. A good movie shouldn't have to be based on on A-List actor name attached or 100 million dollar budget. Advertise the movie and see if people will come and see it, if Meet Dave can actually make it to the theatre than by God why not this action adventure with a different take on a classic story.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:30:14 PM CDT

    Most Excellent!

    by turd furgusen

    http://outlander.solsector.net/CONCEPT%20ART.htm

    Moorwen at the bottom along with planetscape.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:34:50 PM CDT

    Q The Winged Serpent..

    by jonah echo

    the Chud's from the first movie-the movie was a bore, but they were pretty funky.

    Again, the troll from Cat's Eye. Are there people out there who haven't seen this and love monsters? Fix your mistake.

    a goofy mess, but memorable in it's goofiness is Meatloaf Bear from Prophecy.

    Draco from Dragonheart was an awesome design.

    Buckbeak from Harry Potter.

    most all of Labyrinth.

    The Tingler-hunks of rubber never scarier.

    The Cenobites.

    Gremlins of course.

    The Gramork.

    Ghidorah.

    if animation counts, The Red Bull

    The Judas Bugs

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:42:59 PM CDT

    Although he was in human form..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Billy Zane was one of favorite onscreen Demons in a while. Check out Tales From the Crypt: Demon Knight. Love this movie.
    What about the piraha's with the wings?
    Demon from Amityville III that came up from the well in the basement.
    Winged beings in Beastmaster were pretty cool.
    Dragon (or Hydra) in Willow.
    Luck Dragon in Neverending Story.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:52:31 PM CDT

    The Pale Man

    by jonah echo

    The Faun, obviously.

    the Mondoshawan from The Fifth Element, and Gary Oldman's elephant pet.

    the brain bug from Starship Troopers was a goofy fave.

    The little bug eyed monster from the Tales from the Darkside episode called "Inside the Closet". That one was courtesy of Tom Savini.

    the little goblins from The Gate.

    The Reapers from Blade II. surprised it took me this long to mention them.

    Sammael, Hound of the Ressurection.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:52:44 PM CDT

    What about

    by series7

    The monster from The Relic? I thought was wasn't half bad.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:53:50 PM CDT

    and the

    by series7

    Thing from Brother Hood of the Wolf, that kind of looked like the Relic monster.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:56:07 PM CDT

    It's Alive baby...

    by chittychittygangbang

    In the few days before my wife gave birth, I went online and saw where I could purchase an It's Alive puppet.
    So I thought it would be cool to have everyone of our relatives at the glass and I whip back the blankie and start whipping that thing around.
    Long story short, they were sold out on the website and wife didn't find the idea funny AT ALL.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 4:56:29 PM CDT

    Also since this is about Vikings

    by series7

    What about the bad ass James Earl Jones Snake in Conan?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:01:02 PM CDT

    Kothoga from Relic was cool..

    by jonah echo

    basically if the Predator and Jurassic Park creature mated.

    Fenrir from Runestone.Though lets face it, he looks like crap, and is mostly here because he is a viking related monster, and the cops actually say "Nah, it's not Fenrir. Probably some loon in a bulletproof dogsuit!'

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:15:49 PM CDT

    The It's Alive puppet baby..

    by jonah echo

    they actually have those?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 5:48:06 PM CDT

    Pure genius, Chitty

    by spud mcspud

    The only way you could have bettered it would have been if you could buy a V: THE LAST BATTLE puppet for that little green bastard Blaire gave birth to. Or the normal-looking kid with the forked tongue. But that little green bastard... Guaranteed creep-out for sure!

    Kudos, though. That would have rocked!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:42:34 PM CDT

    Thank you, Thank you...

    by chittychittygangbang

    I would have been thrown out of the nursery for sure.
    I think I would have to find a back door to the hospital no doubt.
    Although knowing my mom, ever the loving mother she is, would have said something like "Oh she looks like her daddy!"
    I'm still going to get one though. Thanks for the link Danny, as I forgot where to get one. I will send pics after it comes in...

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:44:27 PM CDT

    You got that right Spud

    by chittychittygangbang

    When I saw that scene in V, I just about had to turn away. Guys, I'm serious when I said little baby monsters creep me the fuck out.
    Luckily my daughter is cuter than a box of kittens.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 6:50:34 PM CDT

    All Dark Crystal creatures kicked ass, Spud!

    by puddleglum

    More Skeksis's please!

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:33:24 PM CDT

    ChittyChitty...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... that's one of the pleasures of the film... the Moorwen may be dumb animals... or they may not be. And your assumptions about which one they are might just get your head torn off. Or your entire planet destroyed. Which is my not-terribly-coy way of saying they are very groovy monsters.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:38:12 PM CDT

    Doubleyou-En-Bee

    by womb2doom

    First Whiny, I apologise for calling you insane. That was me being a dick and hiding behind anonymity. I still question your motives here but obviously you have a consistent grudge and good luck with it.Second, I am very well aware what site this is and it is a site that very often singles out entire groups of movies despite attention that may have been given to them in the past. My suggestion is to create YET ANOTHER feature where Aintitcool specifically identifies and advertises a movie that isn't getting studio support or the attention it arguably deserves. Maybe the wrong has gotten out and a needed talent(s) is about to get washed down the drain while we get another Alien Vs Predator movie. Sometimes the general DVD columns or the name dropping isn't enough and a dedicated article, like this one, would help create an awareness and active dialogue with the very fans who are going to get the kick in the arse and go see it. Mori's letter was a great first step so why not continue the standard. I'm sorry if this kind of irrational positivity is offensive to you. I'd be pissed too if I could only see the crappy, mundane aspects of life.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 7:47:45 PM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty

    by chittychittygangbang

    I've always read that man is man's greatest foe. And while I certainly can see where that saying is coming from, I can actually argue it to a point.
    You see, while mankind is indeed a very dangerous species, nearly everyone knows that man also has the gift of conciousness in general.
    Even life-long criminals will kill a child molester when put in prison with them. That proves that some compassion is at least buried deep within not matter the person.
    Most animals are without this. Unless it is there own species, all bets are off. Sort of like when Lions kill a Hyena, 95% of the time they don't eat it. They are trying to rid themselves of a species that will harm theirs.
    What intrigues me about species like the Moorwen is they may possess not only a level of intelligence not seen since Raptors in Jurassic Park or the Xenomorphs, but maybe worse...
    The intellegence of man with a lack of conciousness about killing anything that gets in its way.
    Now that is truly a scary creature.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 8:37:53 PM CDT

    Tough sell, in my opinion

    by forsakyn

    I think the movie is a tough sell, honestly. I want to see it, but most viking movies have been passable (The 13th Warrior) to bad (Pathfinder). Granted, there aren't many of them, but this one has a spaceman, an alien dragon, and vikings. And the passable to bad viking movies that preceded it won't help anticipation for Outlander in any respect.

    Don't get me wrong - Outlander definitely interests me. But I think a lot folks could just go "huh?" or even laugh during the trailers they've shown so far (so I agree with Moriarty in that they haven't been good).

    And the cast, while very good, aren't mainstream draws for most moviegoers. I don't know how I'd even try to sell this, honestly. I do want to see it, but if it does get a theatrical run I'd have a tough time convincing my wife to go with me. :)

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:25:25 PM CDT

    Speaking of monsters and Mori..

    by jonah echo

    Drew, not to change the subject too much, but when does your ep. of Fear Itself air? Is it this Thursday? I read your script and was intrigued enough that I want to see how Doug Jones handles the central character.

    I think there is real potential there. Want to tune in with the wife and see how it goes down, provided it hasn't already aired.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:28:16 PM CDT

    Also..let me clarify..

    by jonah echo

    it sounds above like the script was just passing enough to entice. Not what I meant. It was a good read, but I think the actual final products of this show haven't been too fantastic thus far. So my hesitancy lies in that, not your work, which was a fine horror piece.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:33:25 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    Moriarity's episode "Skin and Bones" is scheduled to air July 31st if I am not mistaken. I'm looking forward to it.
    Can't wait to see how he handled the struggle within.
    Sort of Like Ed Harley and Pumpkinhead maybe? Seperate but the same?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:36:33 PM CDT

    I meant to say...

    by chittychittygangbang

    The Rancher and the Monster share the same soul maybe? Or share pain?
    I didn't mean to imply it was just like Pumpkinhead or trying to copy it. I was comparing the struggle of the characters and how they can't help but be fatally tied together so to speak.
    Sorry.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:45:09 PM CDT

    did you read it chitty?

    by jonah echo

    he made it available for reading.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:48:21 PM CDT

    there's something of a posession vibe to the whole thing..

    by jonah echo

    with the wendigo myth sort of hanging over the whole story, and becoming more and more concrete as the story progresses. Basically, you have a man sick in bed, who nearly died, and there is that classic question-who came home, the guy who left, or the guy that was born out of that ordeal? Good bit going on in a story that moves pretty straightforwardly.

    If Fessenden did it justice, and I know he is capable of it, then this will be a spooky good time.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:49:57 PM CDT

    No Jonah, but i would like to

    by chittychittygangbang

    I've been reading this site for years, but have only recently logged in.
    I saw a talkback about it, but got too busy at work, newborn baby, etc, etc.
    Where would I find a copy? I googled his episode and came up with the air date, but nothing really else.
    Does he mind if we read it?
    I really love to write and would like to read and hopefully learn a thing or two.
    I used to write for a small paper and was told I could do whatever I wanted in my department. LOVED IT.
    But the pay was chicken feed and I bowed down to the almighty dollar and the 9-5 that came with it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:53:56 PM CDT

    No, he made it available online..also

    by jonah echo

    it is only fair we point out he AND Scott Swan(his writing partner) created it together. This would be their third script for the anthology format after Cigarette Burns and Pro-Life. Personally, Skin and Bones is less flashy, but also a bit more(pardon the pun) raw, I think than those 2.

    Let me see if I can find the link for you.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:55:43 PM CDT

    Does it have cannabilistic overtones?

    by chittychittygangbang

    I know I read something about the Indian myth of the Wendigo was a spirit that transformed from human or could possess a human.
    Mainly due to the eating of human flesh and the mortal and spiritual taboo that follows the eating of one's own species.
    Maybe causes the true evil of man to manifest itself in physical form?

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:57:59 PM CDT

    Actually it airs the 24th...it seems..

    by jonah echo

    and here is the link, complete with place to download the script. He said it will be available til the episode airs, so get it now.

    I'd love to still have this talkback running so we can discuss it when it airs amongst all the other horror fans running about here.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 9:58:56 PM CDT

    oh yea..the link

    by jonah echo

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37450

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:00:40 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by jonah echo

    yes, it's more along the cannibalism myth than the more forest spirit path that Fessenden explored with Wendigo and Last Winter(two movies I truly enjoyed).

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:02:22 PM CDT

    ok, gotta go. have a goodnight..

    by jonah echo

    Also, noticed tonight at Best Buy, they were selling Thirteenth Warrior for 6 bucks. For all those who were talking fondly of it earlier.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:08:39 PM CDT

    Calling it a night as well

    by chittychittygangbang

    I will start back posting in this talkback tomorrow to try and help keep it going.
    I also had fun in the Friday the 13th talkback and The Stand talkback as well.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:38:10 PM CDT

    Just read the Wendigo script

    by chittychittygangbang

    Not bad at all. So far sounds like the best of the lot.
    Hope the director played up the isolation of the house on the moutain, as it makes the victims and the viewers feel even more helpless.
    Also would like to see Wendigo creature as something like Pumpkinhead or similar, not just a zombie. But I know budgets can make those decisions for you.
    Script reads very well Moriarty. Well done.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 10:39:10 PM CDT

    Now I should go to bed.

    by chittychittygangbang

    Script got me hooked and had to finish it.

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  • Jul 22, 2008 11:03:15 PM CDT

    I'm hoping that the...

    by thead

    Producers at ascendant are pushing to get a wider release. But if 50 theaters is all we get I sure as hell hope one of them is close enough to where I live, but it will be doubtful considering I'm in the middle of nowhere with the nearest large center is a six hour drive away... and even that city probably wouldn't get it if it's only on 50 screens.
    At the very least one of them better be in Halifax so all the people who were actually in it and working on it can go see it.

    Barring that, The Locarno Film festival in Switzerland is playing the movie in roughly two weeks. Hopefully it gets some great buzz. It's not in contention but it will be up for a peoples choice award for it's "premiere" as well as some other Variety sponsored award.

    And then it will be playing throughout the month at the Fantasy Filmfest in Germany...

    I can't remember if I stated it or not, but the actual cost of the film is more than just slightly north of 30mil. It's "official" budget is about 40 million (originaly it was closer to 32million) and final costs are rumored to be about 47 million dollars.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:05:43 AM CDT

    whats that wendigo movie where an indian grows outta

    by ironic_name

    some lady's shoulder? there was a naked tits outer space laser battle..

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:36:07 AM CDT

    Hmmm,

    by lost jarv

    My problem is, if this only gets 50 screens in the US then there isn't a fucking prayer London will get it. I'm wondering if Frightfest will show it. I'll go and check

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:36:47 AM CDT

    Damn it. What an insipid list

    by lost jarv

    And I'm in fucking Spain when it's on. How annoying.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:37:37 AM CDT

    There's only 2 I'd want to see anyway

    by lost jarv

    Midnight Meat Train and Trailer Park of Terror. Which just sounds like genius.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:38:32 AM CDT

    Heh,

    by lost jarv

    There's a film called I know how many runs you scored last summer that sounds amusing though.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:42:25 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv

    by xiphos_2

    In reference ro a question you asked me waaaaaay earlier, I'm doing just fine thanks for asking. What's Trailer Park Of Terror? I have not heard about that one.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:21:48 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv

    by spud mcspud

    TRAILER PARK OF TERROR. Is that the place where both Michael Lohan AND the Spears clan live? It's like a cannibalistic HILLS HAVE EYES situation where years of inbreeding keeps producing these amoral, unfeeling, brainless, compassionless bimbettes that live on crack cocaine and the subtle air of desperation, and who - inverting the classic tribal myth - only have souls when they ARE photographed. They get to Hollywood, begin reproducing a la SPECIES due to the copious amounts of crack cocaine around, and now E! NEWS is actually a covert pirate show designed to transmit a subwave subliminal message warning the world that the fucked-up trust-fund psychopaths are out here to destroy us all!

    Is THAT the TRAILER PARK OF TERROR, or am I going insane?

    Ah. I am indeed wrong.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:56:55 AM CDT

    Haven't the foggiest,

    by lost jarv

    but the title makes me want to see it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:58:07 AM CDT

    fuck off prettybaby

    by lost jarv

    you spamming shitbag. Take your wanky dating site, polish it up and jam it up your arse.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:59:25 AM CDT

    Spammers are worse than plants

    by lost jarv

    I'm fuming. What a shitty day. So far I've been blamed for an admin error that is palpably not my fault, The Dark Knight TB has melt down and I've discovered I'm going to miss frightfest. It's enough to drive me to the pub.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:59:59 AM CDT

    Spud

    by lost jarv

    Isn't the "cocaine" at the end of Crack-cocaine redundant? What other type of crack is there?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:17:42 AM CDT

    Jarv...

    by just pillow talk

    I finally saw AVP:R.Thoughts: It is not the most horrendous piece of shit I've seen, and I would say it was more entertaining than 10,000 BC (which ain't saying much). I would also argue that this one is still better than AVP since no humans actually became a Predator sidekick. Plus, it did have Michelle from 24 whom I would really like 24 hours with.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:38:58 AM CDT

    AvP:R

    by lost jarv

    a fucking absolute abomination, and a travesty. True it didn't have a human sidekick and this is a good thing, but it did have a predalion that can impregnate women through the mouth, and committed the absolutely unfuckingforgivable sin of setting it in present day small town America. At least AvP had the sense to set it somewhere exotic. What bugs me (a lot) is why on earth can they not set it in Space?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:40:56 AM CDT

    in fact, now I think about it

    by lost jarv

    It's been a while since I saw it, and as I own a pirate copy I've seen it twice- the first time I watched it drunk (believing, erroneously, that this would improve it), and couldn't make out a fucking thing. I rewatched it sober, and STILL couldn't make out a fucking thing. I wrote it off as a bad pirate copy, only to find out later from a mate that the copy I have is perfect and the fucking film is MEANT to look like that. How incompetent can you get?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:42:16 AM CDT

    I'm not defending the festering shit that is AvP

    by lost jarv

    just to make that clear. In fact, a lot of the blame for AvP:R lies with that first abortion.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:43:26 AM CDT

    and on this subject

    by lost jarv

    I like to pretend that neither film exists. For me the Alien series ends at the end of Resurrection. And I'm not chuffed by the last third of that one either. Predator, obviously, only has the 2 films.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:44:20 AM CDT

    oh my god

    by lost jarv

    We've droppped below a Top Gun TB. I'm not having that.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:49:29 AM CDT

    I saw someone mention Critters up there

    by lost jarv

    Critters is fucking great. Not many people know this but it's actually a comedy/ satire/ spoof (delete as applicable) of gremlins. Honest.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:50:43 AM CDT

    and as for Darkness Falls.

    by lost jarv

    Yuck. What a steaming turd. As much as the premise is good, everyone involved in that fucking movie needs to be forced into working in hardcore corprophilia fetish porn. Horrible shit.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:51:20 AM CDT

    only 2 behind now

    by lost jarv

    this is easy,Where is everybody? Not working surely?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:54:05 AM CDT

    Critters

    by lost jarv

    1 is genuinly good, 2 is OK- worth it for the Easter Bunny death and the giant Krite Ball at the end, 3 is crap- with the only redeeming feature of the Krites being saved by the intergalictic equivalent of Greenpeace because they're about to go extinct, 4 sets it in Space following Jarv's golden rule for late sequels (you want a good one, set it in Space), so is therfore quite good. Charlie is in all of them, but never stops being an annoying dick that you just want eaten.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:21:25 AM CDT

    no disagreement there about the setting

    by just pillow talk

    No space = no fucking chance for those AVP movies.I will still maintain that the second one is better than the first. For one thing, the two stoner dudes at the gun store (or whatever store it was) got their heads blown off by the predator, which was amusing. Secondly, the blonde chick had an amusing death as well running into the flying predator morning star thingy. I can't stress this enough: no human sidekick who was given a "war mark" by a predator.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:22:06 AM CDT

    regarding critters...

    by just pillow talk

    I've only seen the first two, and that was ages ago. I can't believe I don't recall the Easter Bunny death.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:22:59 AM CDT

    top gun?

    by just pillow talk

    fuck off.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:24:18 AM CDT

    I should be getting sunshine today

    by just pillow talk

    but I won't be able to get to it tonight. I'll have to probably do some school work. If it was possible, I would send a web FLAMING LEG KICK to my professor and knock his ass back a quarter century.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:24:50 AM CDT

    indian growing out of a womans shoulder..was..

    by jonah echo

    The Manitou, with Tony Curtis. Wow. What a flick!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:25:16 AM CDT

    Whiny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Calling Gattaca crap? Christ, people hate on everything around here.It might have had trailers and interviews but that still doesn't mean it flew under the radar. I was working at a Blockbuster at the time and I had to recommend that movie to practically everyone coming in because they had never heard of it.Jarv, AVP:R was one of the worst shot movies ever. The sewer scenes were impossible to make out and the editing was worthless. The studio should have taken the loss and burned every print.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:25:45 AM CDT

    2for2true, where art thou?

    by just pillow talk

    I needst you to dispatch an unholy shitheel, namely my professor. Tell me thou lord whom I need to sacrifice to have this deed come to fruition?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:26:54 AM CDT

    um, I still haven't gotten to Gattaca

    by just pillow talk

    Just one of those things...Sigh, so many movies, so little time.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:27:46 AM CDT

    What godawful grammar

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Need another cup of coffee.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:29:41 AM CDT

    The Monster that Challenged the World

    by just pillow talk

    Just watched that the other night. It's just classic. The "final battle" in the lab is just great. Weapon of choice: axe on the back wall or a fire extinguisher? Fire extinguisher!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:30:47 AM CDT

    My grammar is pretty awf....oh, yours...

    by just pillow talk

    Speaking of which, need #2...

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:32:21 AM CDT

    I know, I couldn't believe it.

    by lost jarv

    And for that reason more than any of the others, AvP:R is more of an atrocity than AvP. *Although, Jarv would like to make extremely clear that he does not in any way condone "The enemy of my Enemy is my friend" shite or tribal marking a human sidekick. Nor does Jarv condone such stupidity as a 300 foot high queen Alien, and he absolutely treats with contempt the pathetic grab at credibility that was casting Lance Henriksson as Mr. Weyland*

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:35:53 AM CDT

    furthermore,

    by lost jarv

    Jarv Recognises that they re-attempted this stupidity in AvP:R by having Ms Yutani in it. Jarv would like to hereby issue a biro fatwa on any and all studio idiots that think an Alien v Predator movie SET ON EARTH IN THE PRESENT DAY is a good idea. It's fucking infuriating, because it can be done. If you take the end of Resurrection as your starting point and have Alien Eggs survive the crash and Earth be infected with a group of people trying to get off the planet and avoid the attention of the Aliens and the Predators then there's your fucking movie. That took me 3 seconds to think of. You could also blatantly steal Blade Runner's look and have a really fucking degenerate cyberpunk planet. Aliens and Predators should be hazards avoided- by putting the v in the title they felt that they had to fight. This was wrong.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:37:08 AM CDT

    the shoddy filming..it's too bad you could make out

    by just pillow talk

    too much of the first AVP.AVP:R > AVP due to NO HUMAN FUCKING SIDEKICK OF A SUPPOSEDLY BAD ASS MUTHAFUCKER OF A PREDATOR.At least the dude in AVP:R was alone and was taking out tons of aliens along with a few human stooges. Didn't another predator at the end of AVP giver her a fucking staff too?Sorry, the film could have been completely consumed in darkness, and AVP:R would be better.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:37:09 AM CDT

    "Aliens and Predators should be hazards avoided"

    by lost jarv

    Fuck's sake: Aliens and Predators should be natural hazards that are to be avoided. We used to smarter

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:39:35 AM CDT

    as I remember

    by lost jarv

    the human sidekick nonsense actually has pedigree from the comics, so not really the films fault, although an obviously bad idea. And the staff thing is a blatant reference to predator 2 and just sums up the desperate grabs for credibility made in it.But really, pillows, Walmart + Predalion + shot in pitch fucking black + Pizza delivery boy= worse than AvP

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:40:33 AM CDT

    bottom line: I will never watch either again

    by just pillow talk

    Fuck, what they could have done was drop them in 10,000 BC and have them fuck up mammoths and tribesman and sabertooth tigers and whatnot.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:40:55 AM CDT

    They are both fucking disgraceful, frankly,

    by lost jarv

    and have managed to kill off 2 gold standard Sci-fi series. I think that's why they upset me so much.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:42:25 AM CDT

    shit...I forgot about that in Predator 2

    by just pillow talk

    That movie sucked too.If you're not named Arnold, you shouldn't survive an encounter with a Predator, let alone become a "Robin" to their "Batman".

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:43:30 AM CDT

    most definitely...destroy two franchises at once

    by just pillow talk

    Though I only like the first Predator film, not the second.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:44:24 AM CDT

    ok...securely in the second spot now

    by just pillow talk

    So do I actually do work now, or schoolwork?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:45:45 AM CDT

    I like lots of things about the second

    by lost jarv

    The Glove, obviously, the dystopian setting, Hudson, Gary Busey and more. But don't forget that Predator 2 is to blame for AvP. It wasn't even an idea before some dick put an Alien skeleton in the Predators ship.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:46:14 AM CDT

    neither.

    by lost jarv

    Post here.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:47:03 AM CDT

    and...

    by lost jarv

    I'm not doing any work today since I got blamed for that admin fuckup.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:47:49 AM CDT

    maybe Nolan should come and save Alien

    by lost jarv

    Either that or Neil Marshall/ James Cameron/ Ridley Scott. Ain't ever going to happen though.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:53:31 AM CDT

    you would need to have mayhem...

    by just pillow talk

    absolute mayhem for a next installment.I like the Neil Marshall idea...for Aliens I think. More in line with the first one I think is in order.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:54:35 AM CDT

    didn't Gary have that line...

    by just pillow talk

    lions and tigers and bears oh my?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:56:18 AM CDT

    BTW, to reiterate...

    by just pillow talk

    Pathfinder sucked.13th Warrior ruled.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:57:16 AM CDT

    oh, and love the title Ninja Assassin

    by just pillow talk

    We haven't had a dumb ninja movie in a while I think. When was the last one?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:57:38 AM CDT

    Yes, but if they're going to insist on AvP bullshit

    by lost jarv

    then they need to hire Marshall and follow my fucking blueprint up there. I'll even write the cunting story for them- it isn't hard. Obviously, I can't possibly write a script and I'd steal ideas from everywhere.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:58:25 AM CDT

    Ninjas went out of fashion

    by lost jarv

    I blame Kill Bill. But I'm right off Tarantino at the moment. Fucking Death Proof.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 7:59:35 AM CDT

    Has anyone seen Zatoichi?

    by lost jarv

    I think that's the right spelling- the one with old guy SPOILER pretending to be blind that comes to a small town in fuedal Japan and kicks some ass.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:01:03 AM CDT

    and as for Kill Bill part 2

    by lost jarv

    has there ever been a slower moving, more insipid, festering load of wank that had the fucking temerity to retread massive swathes of the first film and then present such a horrible fucking anti-climax as that one? Kill Bill is Tarantino's nuked fridge

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:06:02 AM CDT

    Jarv - you da man!

    by toadkillerdog

    Keeping the TB alive and on top all by yourself!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:09:01 AM CDT

    Top 10 disappointments

    by lost jarv

    10) Hannibal. Looked great. Was in fact crap. 9)X3- yuck. Where to begin? 8)Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon- raved to the gills, but the worries started with "It's Jane Austin". Oh deary, deary me. 7)Indaina Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull- should have been gold. Was in fact deeply mediocre, and this is unforgivable for an Indy film. 6)Superman Returns. I could bash this endlessly. 5)Attack of the clones- I was tricked into seeing this, as I was damned sure it would be ass. It was, in fact, worse than ass. 4)The Ring Remake. This was a film dying for a good remake- lose all the Goblin crap from the creepy japanese one, and keep that bleak as fuck ending. We didn't get one. But we were never going to as soon as that tool Kruger was hired to write it. He made it worse by cribbing from the inferior sequel and for some inexplicable reason they CGI-d Sadako. Why would you do this? 3)Kill Bill 2. See above 2)Spiderman 3. How did you fuck this up? idiots. And it was the same creative team. 1)The Phantom Menace. Obviously. I'm really worried that TDK is going to be another Phantom Menace moment.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:10:50 AM CDT

    TKD

    by lost jarv

    yup, and I haven't even started typing in insipid lyrics ALL BY MY-SEL-EL-ELF DON'T WANNA BEYou get the idea.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:12:48 AM CDT

    Zatoichi

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Ruled. I assume you're referring to the 2003 version. I watched that and Versus the same night a couple years back. Blind Fury was based on one of the many Zatoichi movies.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:18:40 AM CDT

    I hated Kill Bill....what a piece of shit

    by just pillow talk

    That's a solid list of disappointments. I will not argue the order, because really, they're all shit to varying degrees. Phantom is of course #1 due to hype. TDK was awesome...just fucking awesome.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:20:33 AM CDT

    I can't complain about the summer movies

    by just pillow talk

    that I've seen.Loved Iron Man, Hellboy 2, TDK...Indy 4 was just okay (which I realize is a crime because of whom was involved and the length of wait), but really, I can't hate on it. Not at all. Though I have a feeling when I rewatch it the whole jungle scenes will bother me to no end.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:22:05 AM CDT

    Jarv...you still haven't seen TDK?

    by jonah echo

    It is in no way a phantom menace.

    Right now, Im more concerned for the XFiles movie. Pleeeeaaassee don't suck.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:22:36 AM CDT

    yup 2003 version

    by lost jarv

    glad I spelt it right,

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:23:17 AM CDT

    It's not out here till tomorrow.

    by lost jarv

    Fucking ridiculous- I'm going saturday. I'm not bothered by spoilers though.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:25:25 AM CDT

    Just to clarify

    by lost jarv

    I didn't hate Indy. It was just completely mediocre. The reason it makes that list is as you said- length of wait and people involved. That is sad really.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:26:04 AM CDT

    I disagree on CTHD and The Ring..

    by jonah echo

    I loved Crouching Tiger, and I enjoyed The Ring remake...However, I had not seen the original at that point. When I rented the original, it made the remake look like chopped liver. LOVED that ending with gramps and what not.

    But the remake was fun and inspired me to seek out the original. It wasn't a disappointment, because I didn't expect anything from it. I also saw it on Halloween on a pseudo date with my future wife so that might have helped things.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:27:14 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv...

    by chittychittygangbang

    I see you have Hannibal on your list at No. 10
    Yes, I agree I was disappointed with that film, but to me the biggest letdown of the lot was Red Dragon.
    When you look at the cast of that movie: Norton, Keitel, Hoffman, Parker, Fiennes, wow how did they screw that up?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:27:15 AM CDT

    I was going to include the matrix sequels

    by lost jarv

    but I really am not head over heels in love with the original- so I wasn't that let down by them

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:27:30 AM CDT

    Jarv - I almost agree with your list

    by toadkillerdog

    I gotta admit I liked Crouching Tiger. TDK is a great summer movie. You will not be disappointed. The hype and the backlash are out of proportion to the movie. It is a an enjoyable summer entertainment - and really should not be taken as seriously as some people are wont to do.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:27:47 AM CDT

    Hopkins too!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Forgot to add him...

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:29:38 AM CDT

    The Ring

    by lost jarv

    I saw the original first- and when I heard it was getting remade I was seriously excited. This list is subjective, everyone is bound to have a different top 10. Red Dragon didn't make the list because I knew Ratner was directing it and I already didn't expect it to hold a candle to Manhunter. Hannibal on the other hand was Ridley fucking Scott- Julianne Moore, Hopkins, Gary Oldman, Ray Liotta, Directed by Ridley Scott. Should have been the shit.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:32:20 AM CDT

    Crouching Tiger

    by lost jarv

    when it came out, it was all over the place that this was The great Ang Lee's martial arts epic and was the absolute tits. And I really, really did not like it. My fault really, for building it up in my head to something it isn't. I should have paid attention to all the Jane Austen comments that Ang Lee was making at the time- then I wouldn't have been let down. Because I wouldn't have watched it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:32:21 AM CDT

    I dislike all wire-fu martial arts movies

    by just pillow talk

    If you are doing a martial arts movie, the dudes better be able to do martial arts on their own.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:33:22 AM CDT

    Do you know who turned down Red Dragon

    by chittychittygangbang

    Michael Bay! Yes, Michael fucking Bay!
    Also Frankie Faison was ALL the Hannibal movies, including Mann's Manhunter.
    Can you imagine Bay directing this?
    Hopkins would kick over his bed in his cell and whip out a mini-gun like Arnold had in T-2.
    Cut to slow motion shot of Norton diving out of the way....

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:33:37 AM CDT

    Big disappointments for me were..

    by jonah echo

    We will do this one by one, in no particular order of disappointment:

    1. Spielberg's War of the Worlds- This should have been pure spectacle. I recalled that teaser with a whole spielbergian neighborhood walking outside to a spectacular lightshow that was in actuality the forces of the martians fighting the military. It was awesome, and the movie only represented that in fits and starts. What gives? As a result I was massively bummed.No great characters, the Tim Robbins scene, the silliness of the buried machinery, the doofus ending.SIGH.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:34:02 AM CDT

    there are so many other films on the periphery

    by lost jarv

    Matrix sequels, Death Proof, Million Dollar Baby, The Blair Witch Project, and so forth. It's very, very rare for a film to live up to expectations. Such films should be cherished.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:35:40 AM CDT

    A Bay Red Dragon

    by lost jarv

    does not bear thinking about. The Tooth fairy pushes the flaming wheelchair down the street while a helicopter flies inexplicably by. Soundtrack by Aerosmith.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:36:10 AM CDT

    2. Godzilla

    by jonah echo

    Yea, I know, Emmerich. What did I expect. Well at that point, I still had hopes Emmerich would develop into a fine schlockster. Stargate and ID4 were fun. I thought he could really do something awesome with Godzilla. But as soon as it started, it shot my dreams to death, as they stared at me with big sympathetic reptilian eyes.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:36:55 AM CDT

    WOW....yes, it was held back from being what

    by just pillow talk

    it should have been. It would have been better if the son wasn't in the movie at all. Or, if you absolutely have to have the annoying as fuck kid in it, don't have him come back from the bum rush up the hill into utter destruction and then miraclously turning up at the end.Tim Robbins scene completely killed any momentum in the movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:38:13 AM CDT

    WoW

    by lost jarv

    Yuck. Complete crap. Horrible effort. I should have included AI.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:38:20 AM CDT

    Solid list of disappointments

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I would replace Crouching Tiger, The Ring and Kill Bill with Alien 3, War of the Worlds and sadly, Godzilla. Once again, I'm in jeopardy of losing my CoC membership because I just plain enjoyed both Kill Bills.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:38:46 AM CDT

    hah...I've never seen Blair Witch Project

    by just pillow talk

    That was me fighting the hype.Still haven't seen it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:38:55 AM CDT

    Bay Red Dragon

    by chittychittygangbang

    Tooth Fairy riding the back of the wheelchair down the street firing the mini-gun mounted to the back of it.
    Cut to Keitel and Norton looking at each other and saying "We ride together, we die together..."
    Car chase (sponsored by General Motors) ensues.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:40:51 AM CDT

    placed on probation

    by just pillow talk

    Membership will be activated in full once again after you take out two fellow employees with a paper clip (the small size) and whiteout.Bonus points awarded for creativity.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:42:03 AM CDT

    War of the Worlds

    by chittychittygangbang

    I liked the first scene of the Tripod coming out of the ground, the ferry scene, the overhead shots of the tripods and well, that's about it.
    Okay, the tension when Fanning and Cruise were avoiding the probe in the basement was a little above average.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:42:10 AM CDT

    while not a top ten disappointment...Crash

    by just pillow talk

    Talk about a overrated piece of shit.Coincidence my ass.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:42:34 AM CDT

    3. Armageddon

    by jonah echo

    I know, I know. Why, why, why did I expect anything. Truth is I just wanted a loud, exciting action film. I WANTED THAT. The Rock was cool to me. Bad Boys was eh, but whatever. But Armageddon extinguished any hope that I would ever think of Michael Bay as someone with a fully functioning brain again. You see, my dislike for Bay and Emmerich is not because of what they represent, but because I once actually thought they could be good.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:43:40 AM CDT

    anytime they were on the run and the machines

    by just pillow talk

    were causing destruction = good.As my wife, whom I recently showed the original to, "this was is better than the Tom Cruise one".ding-ding-ding...correct!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:44:09 AM CDT

    Blair Witch

    by lost jarv

    One of the worst things for me- and I'm not usually bothered by spoilers- is that I was watching a review programme on the BBC and they totally blew the end. It just wasn't very good and was hideously overhyped.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:44:57 AM CDT

    4. Tideland

    by jonah echo

    Yea, most people are going to say Brother's Grimm, but I argue that movie was merely alright, and not terrible. Tideland was inexplicable to me. It was like watching a family member I once regarded as brilliant show up at my house as a homeless meth addict. Some people claim the Gilliam genius was intact here, but I didn't see it. I truly felt sad at the end of this one.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:45:39 AM CDT

    Alien 3 is underrated

    by lost jarv

    honestly. I really like it. But it was a crushing disappointment at the time. I think too many people were expecting it to be like Aliens and is totally different.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:46:42 AM CDT

    what is good about Alien 3...

    by just pillow talk

    is the doctor dude is killed early on.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:48:42 AM CDT

    I feel I'll have to go into why the Ring remake was such

    by lost jarv

    a let down for me- I've touched on it above, but it's such a missed open goal. An English Language remake would have been so simple- remove the Goblin shit, and don't replace it with anything- especially not Horses. Make it a proper ghost story. It really could have been great, but as Jonah said, the original makes it look like chopped liver. I'm still astounded when I see people genuinly say they preferred the remake.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:49:28 AM CDT

    Armageddon and Tideland

    by lost jarv

    I knew Armageddon was going to be shit, and haven't seen Tideland.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:50:48 AM CDT

    Crouching Tiger and Godzilla

    by toadkillerdog

    I liked Tiger. It was operatic. It is not for everyone though. That was my very first wire-fu movie, and it took some getting used to. But it was a beautifully shot and epic movie. I enjoyed it. Godzilla. Well dingy damn. I am and have always been the biggest Godzilla fan that I know. The very first DVD I ever bought was a bootleg of Destroy all Monsters - the real DVD would not get released for another decade almost. I own every last Godzilla movie. Emmerich's movie was not Godzilla. Now way, no shape, no how. He was, a Tuna eating monster. But, I enjoyed the flick. I know, sacrilege, but thems the facts. I enjoyed it. I got a big bad monster tearing up NYC, and seeing the Garden blown to smithereens was a lot of fun. Yup, I enjoyed it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:50:58 AM CDT

    Bay and Emmerich

    by lost jarv

    really should be great shlock directors. It says a lot about them that they aren't.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:51:02 AM CDT

    5. Matrix Revolutions

    by jonah echo

    I was ok with Reloaded. I thought it would be the precursor to the big fireworks and philosophical rubber meets the road of the third. The worst thing is I anticipated many of the twists, but it is the way the whole thing was handled. You don't go three movies into epic territory and then declare a draw(yes the reconciliation of two enemies could be powerful, but it was more of a stalemate and was anything but powerful) and you don't throw out compelling arguments you formulated in the previous film by having Morgan Freeman show up in a wig, call himself the Oracle, and say"Sorry, The Architect was confused and senile when he told you all that."

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:52:38 AM CDT

    Although I place Alien3 in third..

    by chittychittygangbang

    On the list of Alien films, I liked the feeling of isolation as they were trapped and instead of giving up and hiding, they got a plan together and did something.
    This is also why I like the final act in Jaws (and the rest of it of course).

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:53:57 AM CDT

    6. Alien Ressurection

    by jonah echo

    I still sort of like this movie. It's fun, and I enjoyed it, but wow, not a great send off for such a great character. The way most of you feel bout Indy, I feel bout this one. Though it's one of the few big disappointments I own, due to the fact it was cheap when I bought it and once the disappointment faded, there was a fair bit to like in it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:54:04 AM CDT

    Biggest disappointment of past year

    by toadkillerdog

    Cloverfield. Blew serious chunks. Boring, boring, and where the hell was the monster? Yes, POV, but put the POV camera on the damn monster, not whiny, boring, totally uninteresting, and never to heard from again, kids! I hated that flick.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:54:44 AM CDT

    I'm still waiting (and hoping) that Emmerich

    by just pillow talk

    pieces it all together and we can a truly ridiculous movie from start to finish.I'm sincerely hoping 10,000 BC was just a misstep into the bland.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:56:07 AM CDT

    ah...you guys have Emmerich's Godzilla

    by just pillow talk

    I have Cloverfield. I didn't mind that movie, and all the fucks got killed (well, except that one chick, but one can hope the copter crashed too).

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:56:35 AM CDT

    7. League of Extraordinary Gentleman

    by jonah echo

    By the time it actually showed up, it was clear it was crap, but I was seriously excited for this. I kept looking at the dopey Depp pirate movie and thinking how can that be good, bring on Connery as Quartermain! Wow, joke was on me.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:56:45 AM CDT

    Speaking of 2012

    by toadkillerdog

    I think I kow why he chose that date. Supposedly it is the end of the Mayan calendar - i think. And it has all types of significance attached to it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:58:08 AM CDT

    As for Godzilla...

    by chittychittygangbang

    How in the hell do you not have him breathing fire? His best ability was running AWAY from the military!!!
    That is not the Godzilla i grew up with. He would have shown up like the opening scenes, but also would have kicked total ass once the military started attacking.
    I honestly think this would have been better as a Bay movie. Think about it, he was made to direct a Godzilla movie about total destruction.
    I still turn the movie off everytime when Godzilla starts crossing the bridge at the end.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:58:47 AM CDT

    jpt

    by jonah echo

    I liked Cloverfield fine. Nothing amazing, but it was fun. I wasn't expecting something monumental. I notice that many of my BIG disappointments are from a time when I was younger, and wasn't as tuned into movies as they were developed. Now, it's easier I think, to temper your expectations, but some things like Matrix and Star Wars will always hit you like a ton of bricks.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:59:18 AM CDT

    from a comedy side...Knocked Up

    by just pillow talk

    That was really just a chick flick disguised as a supposedly funny comedy.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:01:36 AM CDT

    yeah, that sums it up for me too Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    I wasn't expecting the second-coming though with it either.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:05:40 AM CDT

    Pillow and Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    We must agree to disagree -like grown men. No crying, whingeing, calling down the wrath of evil Gods. No curses of a thousand diseased maggots and pregnant ticks infesting our armpits. No. We will face it like gentlemen, and just because you both like tripe like Cloverfiled, I will not insult you or suggest that watching that movie will lead to global armageddon.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:08:42 AM CDT

    Alien3 damn near ruins Aliens

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Killing off the girl and Hicks during the credits? That almost nukes the ending of Aliens where Ripley goes to great lengths to save the girl. If I hadn't been on a date, I would have walked out after 10 minutes.Then, they go to the trouble of developing this relationship with Ripley and the doctor and just when both are clicking, WHAMMO!, alien tongue through the cranium. It was basically a retread of the first movie. Alien stalks unarmed crew in dark spaces. The lack of originality left me dumbfounded.I shouldn't have expected much from Godzilla but I grew up on creature features and worshipped the Godzilla movies, so after ID4, I was expecting greatness from the lizard.I should also add The Lost World to the list. That would actually be right behind Alien3 on my disappointment list.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:10:32 AM CDT

    HOD, Lost World was next on my list..

    by jonah echo

    of disappointments. It just shouldnt have been as poor and as bland as it was.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:11:26 AM CDT

    toad

    by just pillow talk

    Watching and enjoying Cloverfield releases twenty white doves around the world, helping turn economies around and helps alleviate the energy crisis. By referring it to tripe, you hate the world. Hope you're happy.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:12:20 AM CDT

    Southland Tales

    by jonah echo

    Count me as one of those who loved Donnie Darko, and kept waiting for Kelly to show up again..with something..and it was this. I only finished wathing it so I could have the credibility of panning it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:13:32 AM CDT

    Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    I own the concession on White Doves. Every time one is released, I make money. I am very happy!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:14:28 AM CDT

    What does one expect from this man..

    by jonah echo

    He kills little helpless amphibians..

    kidding, Toad. I only thought Cloverfield was ok, not terrific. If I had gotten caught up in the hype in the summer I would have been hugely disappointed, but I looked at that release date and said, nah, can't be anything too big and waited for a minor critter movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:15:33 AM CDT

    How bout movies we expected to be trash..

    by jonah echo

    and we surprisingly liked?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:16:39 AM CDT

    Superman Returns...

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remember walking out of the theater feeling bad I paid money to see that.
    I was excitied after watching the trailers, but man was I let down.
    Only things I really liked were the bullet to the eye and the airplane scene.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:17:17 AM CDT

    Speaking of amphibians - ever see Frogs?

    by toadkillerdog

    That was a stupid movie from my childhood. But it still makes me laugh.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:17:30 AM CDT

    Ill start with..

    by jonah echo

    Speed Racer. I took one look at the trailer and said "Mega Bomb" and I was right(at least financially). But my wife and I were at the beach, and were temporarily rained out for an afternoon and found ourselves at the theater, and I gave it a chance, and surprisingly we both really liked it. Again, zero expectations. And it worked for me.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:18:18 AM CDT

    Frogs..

    by jonah echo

    oh the idiocy, but it is fun, and I love the fact it isn't only frogs that join the killer jamboree.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:18:38 AM CDT

    That's easy Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    I didn't think much about the Mummy with Brandon Fraser and I liked it. Same with Part two until CGI Scorpion King showed up.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:20:34 AM CDT

    A Good Year - I didn't think I would like it

    by just pillow talk

    I was wrong.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:21:21 AM CDT

    I had high hopes for Speed - and I loved it!

    by toadkillerdog

    But since this is about movies we had no hopes for but were surprised, that would be Rambo

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:21:24 AM CDT

    Stranger than Fiction

    by just pillow talk

    I had doubts with Will on that one, but again, I enjoyed that one immensely. Quite a pleasant surprise.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:21:28 AM CDT

    Another surprise...was Toy Story

    by jonah echo

    Now, when this came out everyone was enamored over the technology and the style, but all the previews failed to impress me. I paid zero attention to it until it released on video on Halloween, and I sat down with my sister and watched it, and expecting kiddie tripe walked away amazed. Im sure this was everyone's experience, but that was the only time when none of us had real expectations for Pixar. Probably the only time that I was surprised by the quality they delivered. But before I saw it, you couldn't have convinced me it was going to be good.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:21:51 AM CDT

    Also Lake Placid

    by chittychittygangbang

    Went in with low expectations and came away very entertained. Worth it just for Betty White's foul mouth.
    Also the exchanges with Gleason and Platt were gems.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:22:55 AM CDT

    I was unsure about Perfume: Story of a Murderer

    by just pillow talk

    and I ended up really liking that take on fairy tale story telling.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:23:56 AM CDT

    Everyone should see Frogs

    by toadkillerdog

    And I think they substituted Toads in the movie because the Frogs were too embarrassed to be a part of that schlock.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:24:04 AM CDT

    Assault on Precinct 13 (remake)

    by just pillow talk

    Didn't think I'd enjoy it, but the way they offed characters...nice.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:24:29 AM CDT

    As far as Pixar goes...

    by chittychittygangbang

    I thought the same thing about A Bug's Life.
    Ho-hum kiddie story with cool graphics and then went with girlfriend and her neighbor's kids to see it.
    Wow, I bought it as soon as it came out on video.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:24:29 AM CDT

    Gattaca

    by jonah echo

    I had never ever heard of it, didn't know a thing about it, and it was playing second run. As I have said before, my dad and I had just seen Dark City and were feeling optimistic about scifi. And the movie was awesome. It didnt instantly blow me away, but occupied my thoughts all the way home and beyond. To this day, it's still a favorite.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:25:45 AM CDT

    oh, how could I forget: Rocky Balboa

    by just pillow talk

    I was certainly expecting a stinker and it turned out to be the second best in the series for me.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:26:35 AM CDT

    Jonah, I don't know if I wanna go there

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You guys will laugh me off for sure.Honestly? I got loaded, saw Good Luck Chuck and laughed the whole way through.Because it won the Oscar I was pre-disposed to hate Shakespeare In Love but thought it was fantastic.The Island surprised the hell out of me and I still think it's Bay's best movie.After The Lost World I had zero expectations for Jurassic Park 3 and enjoyed the hell out of it.When I heard Mel Gibson was making another foreign language film I rolled my eyes and I fear expressing just how much I love Apocalypto because I don't want to get into a flame war.I need more coffee before I can think of more.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:28:26 AM CDT

    Abominable

    by jonah echo

    on SCI-FI. It wasnt a masterpiece, just an enjoyable flick, but the level of junk on sci-fi is such that even a decent film is great. My wife had injured her knee, and so we were sequestered in the house on a summer night and we came across Abominable, and for some reason, the movie became legitmately creepy to us.It was a ton of fun, and it helped take our minds off of the injury and hospital trips and what not. Only time I actually liked a Sci-Fi premiere.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:29:41 AM CDT

    Pillow

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Well done! I thought I was the only guy who liked A Good Year. Precinct 13 had some cool moments and Rocky Balboa was great and after Rocky 5, I was expecting the worst.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:30:54 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    JP3 and The Island are accurate. I felt the same way. Didn't fully love them, but had a great time with them because I expected nothing and feared crap.

    The one that will get me yelled at. A Walk to Remember. I mocked it for months, and then ended up covering for a teacher whose class was watching it, and found myself renting the thing and making my wife watch it. Not great, but I liked it. Same for Legally Blonde.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:30:57 AM CDT

    just pillow talk

    by series7

    Did you read the book of Purfume? Once I found out more back history on the film and how directors like Kubrick called it unfilmable, and the amazing job Twkler (spelling) did. I think it falls into the better then the book category, because there is this whole middle section of the book that was really boring. The book I thought would be boring, but its a lot of fun and an really easy read surprisingly.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:32:02 AM CDT

    A friend dragged me to Deep Blue Sea

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I love creature features but had a really bad feeling about it. Ended up squealing with glee the entire time.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:32:35 AM CDT

    Rocky Balboa is definitely one..

    by jonah echo

    and honestly, recently, it was Prince Caspian. I only marginally liked the first and had little interest in going out to see another "so-so" movie. But it really delivered on the premise of the book while improving it and definitely a cut above the first film.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:34:33 AM CDT

    I just had this happen to me

    by series7

    I poo pooed all over Into the Wild, then I finally saw it and was amazingly surprised at how good it was. Mainly the second hour when Hal Holbroke comes in, he should've won the Oscar for that role. I thought it was going to be another boring Penn movie about an idiot and i was way wrong.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:34:42 AM CDT

    Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon

    by jonah echo

    My wife and actually were sent this by netflix by mistake. And I looked at it, seemed to recall hearing of it here, checked IMDB, and watched it. And Loved it. We both did. A great take on slasher films. Really, a cool little movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:35:32 AM CDT

    Danny.

    by jonah echo

    yea, kind of. It's movies you expected were crap or not worth the time, but liked or loved.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:36:11 AM CDT

    I saw Deepest Bluest

    by series7

    My Hand is like a sharkes fin six times in theaters. Granted I was living above it on a military base for a whole summer and movies where free. I was awesome like everytime when Samuel got eaten I would stand in the back and watch the entire audience fly back in their seats.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:36:49 AM CDT

    I love Apocalypto

    by just pillow talk

    Deep Blue Sea is entertaining, as is JP3. I haven't seen Prince Caspian yet.Series7, no I've never read the book. I'll tell you though, the movie was good. Hell, I even liked Dustin in it! And any movie that has a nice orgy scene in it immediately gets a thumbs up from me.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:37:17 AM CDT

    Junebug

    by jonah echo

    Another movie I didn't even have a motivation to watch, even as it was starting to play, but won me over in the end. In a big way.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:37:17 AM CDT

    Audience cheered when he got eaten

    by chittychittygangbang

    Sam was yelling about sticking together and shark jumped out and got him. Crowd started clapping.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:39:03 AM CDT

    let's see...Eight Below I enjoyed

    by just pillow talk

    Granted, the dogs are better actors than Paul, but still, as a dog-owner I really liked that film. The ending gets me, what can I say.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:39:14 AM CDT

    Deep Blue Sea..

    by jonah echo

    My girlfriend of the time and I saw it because Blair Witch was sold out, and we had a great time with it. Of course, Im prob one of the few who wasnt disappointed with Blair Witch when I saw it.

    Cool thing about DBS is that it twisted convention just enough to be surprising as a jump out and get ya movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:39:23 AM CDT

    Uncomfortable Reading

    by medicinaluser

    Almost as bad as his interview with MR Silver when he tried to go all out and impress him with his random bits of film history and how he never got to work for him even though he had tried :( whilst discussing SpeedRacer...... SpeedRacer FFS!!!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:39:43 AM CDT

    I was going to have Deep Blue Sea

    by lost jarv

    But I'll take The Bone Collector, The Mummy, and Boogie Nights.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:39:59 AM CDT

    Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon

    by series7

    Awesome movie. Me and my gal where in Austin during SXSW and where trying to figure out how to see anything because we didn't plan on being there for SXSW it just happened, and it was cultish on how little info they give you about seeing stuff. Though we signed up on some list and they sent us like nexts years ticket prices about 3 months after SXSW was over, you have to plan like over a year in advance if you want to see things there. Anyways, we saw this creepy guy in a mask walking around, I thought it was for the upcoming Hills Have Eyes sequel and then I found out it was for Behind the Mask. I thought that movie was awesome.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:40:17 AM CDT

    Beerfest...makes me laugh, regardless of how dumb

    by just pillow talk

    When he ends up with the fat chick...that part gets me rolling.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:41:47 AM CDT

    Junebug - Thumbs down

    by series7

    But I was expecting to like it?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:42:00 AM CDT

    Happiness of the Katakuris..

    by jonah echo

    Whether I'm right or wrong, after seeing Miike's Audition at an anime convention, I had no interest in his other output. Seemed like a shock artist. So when I saw Happiness come on the IFC at like midnight on a friday, I was sitting there planning to turn the channel, but was too tired. And then the movie grabbed me and had me laughing in incredulity for the rest of the thing.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:42:18 AM CDT

    Well also i don't like

    by series7

    Amy Adams.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:43:05 AM CDT

    Iron Man

    by lost jarv

    now, don't get me wrong about this, but I knew next to nothing about Iron Man the character, never rated Fav's as a director, and honestly didn't give a shit about seeing it. I came out stunned at how good it was, but I still maintain that if you take RDJ out of it then it wouldn't have been a fraction as good.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:44:33 AM CDT

    Eckhart vs. Jane

    by series7

    After seeing Batman With A Vengeance, and that Jane hasn't done anything I've liked since Deep Blue. I've decided that Aaron and Thomas need to just merge into one great actor instead of two so-so actors.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:44:44 AM CDT

    Happiness is good

    by lost jarv

    But avoid Visitor Q like the fucking plague. I can't stress this enough. If you want Miike the shock merchant then Visitor Q is really him on his "A" game

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:45:34 AM CDT

    The Bourne Identity

    by jonah echo

    I don't know if anyone remembers, but most werent expecting much from this when it was released. There was a feel that Damon was shooting his career in the foot. Myself and a bunch of friends went to see Woo's Windtalkers, which I was personally more interested in, and the level of disgust we felt for that one prompted us to go try and wash the taste out with Bourne. And thankfully, our decision was a good one.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:45:54 AM CDT

    Ironman

    by series7

    Without RDJ you just got a suit running around, I'm pretty sure that it was like a Cast Away movie in that there weren't any other actors in that movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:46:21 AM CDT

    Precinct 13 remake

    by lost jarv

    I know that Carpenter's is a reimagining, but the remake is not fit to lick the boots of Carpenters. I wish fuckers would stop pillaging his back catalogue

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:46:38 AM CDT

    RDJ did indeed carry the movie

    by just pillow talk

    I think minus him it would have been a decent entry into the superhero genre, but with RDJ, he elevated it to upper echelon of the genre. Changed it from a B- movie to a B+/A- movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:46:45 AM CDT

    I'm not a Miike fan...

    by jonah echo

    but I did like Bird People of China, Zebraman and to some lesser extent The Great Yokai War.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:47:38 AM CDT

    Bourne identity

    by lost jarv

    is one that nearly slipped away. I'd add Mars Attacks and There's something about mary. I saw MA stoned to the gills and nearly cried laughing, and was pissed when I saw Mary, but loved both of them.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:47:52 AM CDT

    Jason Bourne - nice pick Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    You're right, no one expected Damon to pull it off.Wrong.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:48:45 AM CDT

    The Game

    by jonah echo

    I remember seeing the Mike Douglas movie and pretty much going because I was at the theater and had mistakenly thought something else was showing when it wasn't. So I went with this, vaguely knowing director of Seven did it.
    And the level of entertainment and atmosphere completely blindsided me.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:49:53 AM CDT

    I also think I'm the only person in the world

    by lost jarv

    that doesn't like supremacy. I came out of that with a fucking migraine. In fact, it was so bad I still haven't seen Ultimatum. And they killed Famke. Which just pissed me off. Is Bourne meant to be shagging Julia "shovel face" stiles?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:49:53 AM CDT

    to some degree...Starship Troopers

    by just pillow talk

    I wasn't expecting it to be so fun. Plus I fell in love with Dina Meyer. She could call me Johnny Rico.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:50:57 AM CDT

    Baby Geniuses..

    by jonah echo

    Ok. Im kidding..only thing I recall about this was the fact I never saw it and Roger Ebert said in his review that it made him reach for his subway bag so he could regurgitate his veggie burger in it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:51:16 AM CDT

    Wild Things

    by lost jarv

    I saw this expecting nothing. And fucking loved it- seedy noirish shit, 3 way with Neve Campbell and Denise Richards, and a truly Barnstorming turn from Bill Murray as the lawyer. Top film.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:51:26 AM CDT

    Hot Rod and Heartbreak Kid

    by series7

    I somehow ended up with both of those coming on the same day in Netflicks. I wanted something stupid after watching a bunch of subtitles. I really thought i was going to hate both of these, and I laughed my ass off all the way through both. I decided to give Hot Rod a chance after the Iran skit on SNL, and I don't know why I rented Heartbreak Kid. I wanted to see it, but it has Carlos Mencia who've I've always thought could be funny when he's calm, but his show is an abortion of comedy and I don't want to support him. He was really fucking funny in his small CALM role. Hot Rod I thought was almost a sequel to Zoolander in its comedy, both of those were funnier then crap like Knocked Up and Juno. While Superbad I think also fits into the expecting crap and really liked it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:51:46 AM CDT

    lost jarv

    by ironic_name

    MAY OLEG SMILE UPON YOU.
    http://i36.tinypic.com/mvrmag.gif

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:52:20 AM CDT

    Jarv...they allude to the shagging of Stiles

    by just pillow talk

    in the last one...prior to his losing his memory.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:52:40 AM CDT

    Requiem for a dream

    by lost jarv

    to some extent I did know about it, but I was totally unprepared for what we got. That shot at the end with the 2 old women crying on the bench gets me every time.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:53:40 AM CDT

    Wild Things...yup...the three-way alone

    by just pillow talk

    makes it eminently watchable.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:53:45 AM CDT

    I hate all the Bourne movies

    by series7

    I think 2 was OK, and the best. But one and three, didn't like.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:54:16 AM CDT

    Pillows

    by lost jarv

    that's probably what caused the memory loss. It was him drinking a bottle of tequila and scouring himself with a wire brush to try to get all traces of her off him.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:54:42 AM CDT

    Babe; Pig in the City

    by jonah echo

    Both Babes cout actually. I saw the trailer for the first and mocked it horribly. It got nominated. Istill resisted. When I saw it, I relented and said "good kid's film,nice message." The End.

    I saw the trailer for the sequel and thought, ick.cash grab. Missed the short short first run, and then went to see it because Siskel put it on his best of list as number one. I didnt go thinking it would be, but Siskel was still alive at that point, but it was known he was sick, and was wondering if he was judgement was off. I saw it with my girlfriend, who was the other major impetus in seeing it, and I came out of that movie the biggest fan. Seriously, it's one of my all time favorites now.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:54:58 AM CDT

    It's just a great film

    by lost jarv

    the sequels? Not so much.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:55:06 AM CDT

    Requiem for a dream

    by series7

    Better then the book, without the movie I probably wouldn't have even understood the book.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:55:39 AM CDT

    I like all the Bourne movies...

    by just pillow talk

    but like Casino Royale better if one must compare them.Since I'm a dirty pillow, I'd hit shovel face.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:56:15 AM CDT

    Hostel

    by lost jarv

    nah- only joking. Complete crap. ANd not fun, either.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:57:15 AM CDT

    Cube

    by lost jarv

    Inexplicably this fell right off the radar, but I saw it because I was meant to see something else and my date refused. Top call by her.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:57:40 AM CDT

    Great call on Wild Things

    by chittychittygangbang

    Loved that movie even if it didn't have the nudity, so it was a bonus to Denise Richards in all her glory.
    I saw it twice in the theaters.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:57:41 AM CDT

    I've stayed away from all that Hostel and Saw shit

    by just pillow talk

    No thanks.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:00:08 AM CDT

    Also liked The Edge

    by chittychittygangbang

    With Hopkins and Barney the bear. Surprised by that one.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:02:15 AM CDT

    The Edge

    by just pillow talk

    At least they let the bear maul one person.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:02:32 AM CDT

    Love Actually was another surprise

    by chittychittygangbang

    Got drug to that one with girlfriend and was blown away. So many good moments in there.
    My favorite couple was the maid and Colin Firth.
    I watch it everytime I see it on TNT or USA.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:02:45 AM CDT

    Bringing Down the House

    by series7

    I sat there stunned about how much money that movie was making and how LAME it looked. Cheesy timid only boring adult humor. Saw it and thought is was yes very timid but it was silly and fun. I think it was mainly because of the Queen, she is just so damn likeable.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:02:51 AM CDT

    The Arrival

    by jonah echo

    I was like Charlie Sheen and space aliens? No thanks. And then the bendy legs won me over.

    Same for The Frighteners, which I actually was asked my parents to take my siblings to because somehow we all thought it was a PG Disney-esque movie about Mikey Fox and some cute ghosts. It wasnt until I got to the theater and saw it was R. Luckily it was a second run theater and no one cared what you went to see. That one was a major about-face from expectations. The Grim Reaper. Rotting John Astin. Jake Busey as the serial killer.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:04:40 AM CDT

    nice Jonah...

    by just pillow talk

    I loved The Arrival when it came out. The whole thing worked for me..him shouting at the kid at the end..the kid doing the bendy leg thing and running away.I haven't seen the Frightners is a looong time, but I remember liking that one too.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:04:40 AM CDT

    Stephen King's The Night Flier

    by jonah echo

    I had just presupposed this one to be garbage. But when I rented it for Halloween, I was surprised by the quality.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:04:51 AM CDT

    I have seen Hypercube

    by lost jarv

    It's just insane. When the dude starts eating everyone else, I was going "what the fuck". And the fact that he's hungry every 10 seconds. I liked the bleak ending. Apparently there is a cube 0 now. Which breaks Jarv's second rule of good cinema: NEver do a prequel.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:05:14 AM CDT

    Saw 1 and 2 are good

    by series7

    there is only like 15 minutes of new film in saw 3. And 4 was just all over the place and didn't make sense, and the kills where just boring and not that bad.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:06:19 AM CDT

    Fucking hate Love Actually

    by lost jarv

    this is a British thing. Richard Curtis can take his smug, middle class Notting Hill attitude and fuck off, frankly.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:07:07 AM CDT

    Dan in the Real Life surprised me

    by just pillow talk

    And I've found that all the older romantic comedies are pretty damn good: The Shop Around the Corner, Roman Holiday, It Happened One Night...

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:07:22 AM CDT

    Frighteners and Arrival

    by series7

    Fuck yeah! More so for the Frighteners, that movie is so fucking good. I'm pretty sure Jackson is my favorite director, and non of the LOTR are in my top five of his movies. He's got the only flawless track record in my book.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:07:48 AM CDT

    and he can take that fat cockney dog

    by lost jarv

    McCutcheon with him, He was great with Ben Elton, but now he's just a hack. Seriously, this is the man that writes the most insipid middle-class romcom shite that these islands produces. And people fucking flock to it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:09:01 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv

    by series7

    Hey I told you they are remaking Worst Week of my life, i was wrong its a show called Kim and Kathy or some shit? Did you see the show the Street?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:09:32 AM CDT

    Roman Holiday is wonderful

    by lost jarv

  • Jul 23, 2008 10:11:05 AM CDT

    That's Australian

    by lost jarv

    I've got a meeting now. Probably to get berated for that admin fuckup. If she wasn't hot... See you soon.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:11:20 AM CDT

    Yeah

    by series7

    Killing off Jigsaw way too early. He's kind of in Saw 4, i really don't remember that movie, i just know it was terrible and non of the deaths made me even squim in the least. But man that fuck me moment at the end of Saw 1 was classic.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:11:29 AM CDT

    Fallen...

    by jonah echo

    Did I already type this? Didn't see it above though. Fallen with Denzel was something I suspected was crap, I thought it was just a serial killer movie. But when we went our choices were Phantoms, Hard Rain, Firestorm or Titanic again.

    So when it started and revealed itself to be a noir about an invisible demon, I was very happy.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:13:17 AM CDT

    I liked Fallen too...the ending is what makes it

    by just pillow talk

    complete, I think.Oh, and because Danny mentioned it above, my wife was watching Bridget Jones again a few nights ago. Those movies blow. Seriously.I'm guilty for liking Notting Hill though.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:13:32 AM CDT

    British weather

    by series7

    Its so funny, like when it rains in England, the Brits don't change a beat. They are still as Happy as always, it was so weird to get used to at first. Granted my neighbor was like a less funny version of John Cleese.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:13:42 AM CDT

    Lilo and Stitch

    by toadkillerdog

    I thought that would suck. It turns out to be one of my all time favorites, in any genre.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:14:10 AM CDT

    Where to begin

    by hawaiian organ donor

    During the sequence in Mars Attacks when the Martians are bowling Easter Island, blowing up the Taj Mahal and trying to squash boy scouts with the Washington Monument, I'm not sure I ever laughed that hard in the theater.The Bourne movies to me were OK, but not the classics some make them out to be.Pluto Nash could've been worse. Rosario Dawson makes most things better.Heartbreak Kid was entertaining. More than it deserved to be.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:14:10 AM CDT

    I can honestly say LOTR

    by chittychittygangbang

    I hadn't read Tolkien since I was a kid and didn't really know how it would translate to try and put that much story on the screen. I was completely blown away with how great it was.
    I knew it was going to be at the very least an above average film, but wow.
    Bonus points for most of the crowd not knowing it was one of three movies. At the end they were like "WTF?"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:14:55 AM CDT

    speaking of Denzel...

    by just pillow talk

    I know I liked Richochet when it came out. Lithgow was on a roll with this and then Cliffhanger.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:15:19 AM CDT

    I liked

    by series7

    Bridget Jones.... I don't know why. Anyone see Goal! I thought it was going to suck ass and I really liked it...though on the second viewing I hated it?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:18:15 AM CDT

    just call it a review

    by dijjot

    because i doubt teh weinstein will do anything but scoff at the notion of an open letter. I think this movie will do well on dvd. dont think itll recoup though

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:18:18 AM CDT

    Breach

    by just pillow talk

    I was hoping I would like it, and was surprised that I liked Ryan Phillipe in it. Cooper was of course solid yet again.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:19:23 AM CDT

    ok...time to do some "work"

    by just pillow talk

  • Jul 23, 2008 10:20:37 AM CDT

    Cliffhanger rocked

    by chittychittygangbang

    When that bad guys says "fetch (pauses...) FETCH!!!"
    Also the opening moments with the girl on the safety line. High tension.
    So many funny quotes in that movie:
    "It's amazing this day and age what a man will go through for his bitch."
    "Gravity is a bitch aint it?"
    "It costs a fortune to heat this place (tosses more money on the fire)"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:24:50 AM CDT

    Fred felt same about Lilo and Stitch

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred loved that movie. But Fred not like part 2.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:25:20 AM CDT

    What happened to Jarv?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Did he drop his pencil one too many times?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:25:53 AM CDT

    Fred liked Pluto Nash too

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    But Fred only saw it on cable - did not pay for it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:25:54 AM CDT

    Richochet and Cliffhanger

    by series7

    Are fucking amazingly awesome movies. The prison sword fight scene with Jesse the Body Venture (not anymore the dudes just a mass now) was amazing. Sometime last year I wanted to make and sell shirts that said John Lithgow is a bad Ass, with his crazy face on the front and a still from the prison sword fight scene on the back, and maybe start of line of blank actor is a bad ass. But I have no idea how to get the rights to use screen shots.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:26:33 AM CDT

    The Way of THe Gun

    by lost jarv

    no don't laugh. I liked it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:27:20 AM CDT

    Eight below

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred's dog freaks out on the killer sea-lion scene. He tries to attack the TV! Fred has to flip the channel every time that movie is on!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:28:16 AM CDT

    Bridget Jones

    by lost jarv

    the first one is an OK Rom-com. Nothing more. The second is a disgrace to celluloid. However, both of them are terrible Bridget Jones movies that do a real disservice to the quite nasty satire of the book. We're meant to think Bridget is a thick, dim, obsessed sloaney cow- she isn't meant to be lovable. The movies totally miss this point.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:29:21 AM CDT

    The Way of The Gun

    by series7

    That movie was another awesome movie. I always show people that first scene where Sarah Silverman gets her face pounded. Though no one ever wants to sit through the rest, it was such a big opener that it was hard to follow up on and the movie alawys seemed boring, but its pretty good.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:31:34 AM CDT

    Fucking cocksuckers

    by lost jarv

    I've got a formal warning for it. Bollocks.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:32:05 AM CDT

    Love Actually and Notting Hill

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred liked them both. Best Buy or Walmart, Fred not remember which, has Hugh movies in bundle dirt cheap.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:32:41 AM CDT

    Useless piece of trivia

    by lost jarv

    McQuarrie outed Singer in The Way of The Gun- it comes up on the radio at some point. Something like "Famous hollywood director, Bryan Singer discovered to be homosexual"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:34:03 AM CDT

    The problem with Notting hill

    by lost jarv

    aside from the truly, truly fucking awful writing in it, is that the middle/ upper class tossers that he is writing are probably actually his mates. The bastard hasn't a clue what England is like. And Julia Roberts was hopelessly miscast in it.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:35:26 AM CDT

    Danny

    by lost jarv

    so what went wrong with Superman Returns?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:37:22 AM CDT

    Fred is a sucker for romantic comedies

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred like Notting Hill.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:38:48 AM CDT

    Notting Hill

    by lost jarv

    "I'm just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her" Is not good writing. On any level. Julia Roberts was miscast because she doesn't have the ability to make you think for a second that she would look at this fucking loser. Curtis is only capable of writing about a pathetic group of people that do not represent the country. I'm privately educated and I don't know a single person that is remotely similar to the chinless wankers he creates. He's a phony, psuedo cunt.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:40:00 AM CDT

    Funnily enough, I did live in notting hill for a while

    by lost jarv

    and It is nothing like what curtis puts on screen. England hasn't been like his vision in about 50 years. He's a cunt.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:40:53 AM CDT

    They patched it up-

    by lost jarv

    But it always struck me that McQuarrie was the talent.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:41:34 AM CDT

    One thing for Notting Hill:

    by lost jarv

    Rhys Ifans is excellent. If you can, track down Twin Town- which is fucking good fun.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:42:36 AM CDT

    formal warning for what Jarv?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 23, 2008 10:45:36 AM CDT

    About a Boy

    by series7

    Liked it, thought it would suck. Though I didn't think it was good enough to warrent letting that guy direct a huge budget movie. Also Notting Hill guy, did he direct Enduring Love? That movie had a good trailer bad movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:46:32 AM CDT

    Office Space

    by jonah echo

    When this came out onscreen comedy wasn't having it terribly well. And I saw the trailers and snickered, but figured it was crap. Afterall, comedy was in a bit of slump back then. Basketball? Nutty Professor?

    I didnt even see it at the theater. Caught it on dvd. and LAUGHED LAUGHED LAUGHED.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:46:50 AM CDT

    Admin fuckup

    by lost jarv

    No biggie. And not for posting on here- which is amusing. Mind you I'm good enough to cover my tracks. I'm going to lay waste to the disciplinary hearing with my trusty #2.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:46:56 AM CDT

    Twin Town

    by series7

    Solid movie, Ifans as Eye Ball Paul in Kevin in Perry Go large, even better.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:47:48 AM CDT

    About a Boy was a pleasant surprise

    by lost jarv

    I'm off to the pub. See you tomorrow.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:48:11 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by series7

    You shall never speak ill will of Basketball again! I've got that movie memorized. How can you hate that movie?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:50:15 AM CDT

    Ravenous

    by jonah echo

    Used to hear the radio spots for this over and over again. With Davies screaming "He was LICKING me!!" I thought it sounded so stupid, and when the posters and soundtrack and all made it look like some shameful psuedo-gore bore, I didnt bother. Especially when it had about two weeks in theaters. When I caught up with it on dvd, I was surprised how much fun it turned out to be.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:53:24 AM CDT

    Surf's Up

    by jonah echo

    Yes, I mean that.

    I saw the trailers and told my wife it lookd completely unwatchable.

    Then somehow, it was the very movie my father-in-law wanted to see last Father's Day, so we went. And, to my surprise, I really really liked it. I have it on dvd infact.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:54:36 AM CDT

    Oh yeah

    by series7

    for those of you that remember my company burnt down. They've converted a warehouse into a full office. Only problem is now my screen now faces everyone and my boss sits two feet from me. While its amazing we haven't missed a beat, it sucks having no privacy.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:59:44 AM CDT

    Thoughts

    by series7

    I thought Ravenous was boring and just dumb. As for Surfs up haven't seen it, want too but I keep putting it off because I think it looks dumb. But I rented Over the Hedge and Bee Moive and was amazed at how good they were. Especially the last 15 minutes of Hedge were mindblowingly crazy. I've been turned off by Dreamworks films for forever (can they not find Bluth anywhere?) Shrek was boring and The Fish one and Zoo one are reasons enough to give up watching cartoons. So I skiped Bee Movie and Over The Hedge, I was way wrong. Hedge is much better, but Bee movie was a lot funnier then the trailer lends it to be, and it makes for a good double feature to Happy Feet, because Jerry the Bee was wrong in the end.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:02:08 AM CDT

    Series7 - I didn't know that

    by just pillow talk

    Or if I did, I apologize for forgetting. Damn. That's pretty good that your company has kept chugging along.The Way of the Gun was forgettable for me, so I don't feel one way or another for it.The Usual Suspects is a great movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:03:59 AM CDT

    I loved Usual Suspects

    by toadkillerdog

    Just a great film. I will be re-watching that this weekend -if the rains keep me from riding.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:04:52 AM CDT

    best part of way of the gun: punching sarah silverman

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 23, 2008 11:07:09 AM CDT

    You guys

    by series7

    Don't remember Ryan punching a girl in the face in the first five minutes of Way of the gun? Just watched the directors cut to Payback the other day in like the first 15 minutes Mel punches his wife in the head and that was awesome too, the rest of the movie was not as good as the original cut. Seeing that Mel pretty much made the original cut I trust his judgement over that other guy who's movies save for Payback sucked (direction wise, he's written some good movies).

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:07:41 AM CDT

    "oswald was a fag"

    by just pillow talk

    Casting was perfect for that movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:13:27 AM CDT

    Lock, stock and Two smoking Barrels

    by toadkillerdog

    I had low expectations for that, even though I am an anglophile. I truly loved it. Vinnie and James Brown! You can not go wrong!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:18:41 AM CDT

    I liked Lynch's Dune as well

    by toadkillerdog

    Even though it was not entirely faithful *cough, cough* to the book. But Francesa Annis. Damn, her and Ornella Muti and Monica Belluci they can do no wrong

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:19:35 AM CDT

    this looks great !!!!!!

    by pumaman

    I friggin loved the trailers. I love movies like this. I hope it does well !!!!!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:28:33 AM CDT

    Low expectations for Scare Tactics

    by chittychittygangbang

    on the Sci-Fi channel, but now I watch it and laugh my ass off. The half-boy-half-rat skit had me rolling.
    Also the sasquatch ramming the side of the RV was classic.
    Those people go nuts.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:39:22 AM CDT

    Chitty

    by jonah echo

    the flamyboyant guy walking back into the lab, clearly disturbed, but also worried about the rat hybrid's safety.."Are you alright, little, little man?"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:44:54 AM CDT

    Where are the X-Files reviews

    by jonah echo

    that arent written by tasteless pretenders? Seriously, two days until release, and Latauro's "X-Files is camp" review is what we have been given. It's fine we are hearing rumors about movies years off that might not even be made, but what about some reviews for something with some level of fan investment that is out at the end of the week?

    And Im not directing this at AICN solely. There is scarcely anything bout this flick? Is this a new marketing technique? Anti-market saturation?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:59:36 AM CDT

    Danny

    by chittychittygangbang

    when that girl went back there and saw the guy with his leg cut off, she offered him a napkin. ONE NAPKIN!!! I cried I laughed so hard.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:01:33 PM CDT

    Oh yeah Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    That guy gave one of the biggest screams when he saw that rat-boy. My cats ran from the room when turned loose that high-pitched scream.
    I like how he said he was an animal lover and then he saw rat-boy and it was all "Get A Gun!"
    Classic.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:03:31 PM CDT

    One more Scare Tactic

    by chittychittygangbang

    When the guy is standing by the wood chipper and the big boss guy comes in and says the victim has seen too much.
    I swear that guy's bottom lip is quivering.
    That show kills me.
    They also get their money's worth from that little actor.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:07:08 PM CDT

    Yes, the trian car one was funny

    by chittychittygangbang

    Also the hitchhiker with the head in a duffel bag. That dude in the back seat started going to town on that dude's noggin when he attacked his buddy driving! The look on his face was so damn funny.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:09:25 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    I am just going to have to come out and admit this. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, is still a favorite movie of mine. I loved it as a kid, and I still do.!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:22:22 PM CDT

    scare tactics..

    by jonah echo

    how bout the one they set up where, if I recall some skater kids are hanging out, and one's friend gets run over by a car(or they had a car and run someone over)but whatever, guy's friend goes down, or pedestrian goes down, and the "victim" just looks at it all and runs far far far way. Just left his friend in a heartbeat. It was a glorious display of cowardice, especially since he wasnt being chased. Just fled.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 12:25:06 PM CDT

    how bout one..

    by jonah echo

    where guy hires another to clean out the pool late at night, and all kinds of stuff is swimming in there. Looks like body parts and some reptilian thing.

    Or the one where Stephen Baldwin shows up as he mob boss, and he expects the "victim" to realize the whole tihng is a hoax because he is Stephen Baldwin and she will recognize, and she doesn't even when he reveals himself as SB she still has this "Who?" look on her face.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:04:04 PM CDT

    I've always wondered about Scare

    by series7

    Tactics, is how they get these people these jobs? Like wouldn't they have to go through a fake hiring process and fill out papers and shit? Especially for the lab assisstant job and secratary jobs? I can understand the odd jobs and blue collar work. But you have to be pretty stupid to just start working somewhere and not read any papers about pay and legal rights and all. I wish Tracey Morgan would partake in some of the jokes. Did any of you see his skit making of Punk'D on Jimmy Kimmel called you got Fucked Up? It was funny as shit.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:05:53 PM CDT

    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was cool

    by chittychittygangbang

    That was one of my favorite movie cars when I was young. I also had a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang comic book.
    Good times.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:10:46 PM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    It was a few years old, yes. Back when Stephen used to be the host of the show. This woman was basically like a nurse for this badly injured guy, and some low level thugs came or something, and wanted to "finish the job" and they were waitig for "Mr. Big" and of course Baldwin turns out to be Mr. Big.

    Around the same time, there was the ep where someone is taking a big group of teens to a party, and decide to take an abandoned road since the main one is closed down, and they are attacked by vampires, on motorcylces I think, who are driving right next to the van, an dpulling open the door. They also bite big bloody chunks in the driver's neck and then surround the teens. I'm pretty sure they all needed to change their underwear, and most looked like they were prepared for the end.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:11:14 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by series7

    Isn't there a broadway musical right now about Chitty Chitty?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:12:45 PM CDT

    The best parody was...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Christopher Walken on Saturday Night Live.
    When he was on the show that played pranks on people and he really killed the guy in the parking garage.
    The sound effects guy kept repeating those sounds as the host was freaking out.
    I nearly shit my pants laughing.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:12:52 PM CDT

    I'm surprised

    by series7

    That sometimes on scare tactics people just don't go apeshit and beat the crap out of the actors?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:14:00 PM CDT

    I missed a Way Of The Gun Discussion! Shit

    by xiphos_2

    MOTHERFUCKER! Goddamn that's a fun as all hell movie and one of the few where the actors used weapons and tactics like they knew what the hell they were doing. It had a slow speed chase and Sarah Silverman getting her shit fucked up by MR. Reese Witherspoon, who was credible as a tough guy, really who knew? Plus it had Sonny Corlione as the bag man and for once he gave a performance that wasn't phoned in. Great one liners, good performances all the way around, friggin fun movie.Way Of the Gun Is a worthy addition to the list of genre films about tough guys.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:18:21 PM CDT

    I think it was back in 2005

    by chittychittygangbang

    But it seems like it is in the UK now and maybe going on world tour?
    I love that the woman in story is named Truly Scruptious.
    I keep waiting for a dancer or porn star to use that name.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:20:15 PM CDT

    I'm waiting for a Scare Tactics homocide

    by chittychittygangbang

    I can just see some victim not getting screened for a weapon and that little person getting killed.
    Or someone honestly beaing scared to death and having a heart attack. Maybe they could put that on the DVD extras.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:28:02 PM CDT

    so, I'm way behind on this..

    by jonah echo

    but is it true that the whole "assualt" thing with Bale turned out to be filed as "verbal assualt?" I doubted the thing from beginning, but basically, the dude's own mother charged him with verbal assault?? Wha h'ppened???

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:29:27 PM CDT

    in the ep involving the vampires..

    by jonah echo

    when one vampire had climbed onto the side of the van, and was trying to get in, one of the kids kicked her and tried to close the door on her hands. That would have sucked.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:30:05 PM CDT

    verbal assault

    by series7

    Is a crime in England.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:32:34 PM CDT

    right, but kind of unfortunate..

    by jonah echo

    that there was a bit of time, at least here in the U.S., where it was just detailed as "assault" so everyone gets images of Bale holding his mother upside down over the fire escape and growling " WHERE ARE THE COOKIES?? I KNOW YOU MADE THEM!!! IF I DROP YOU FROM THIS ANGLE, IT WON'T HURT YOUR BAKING HAND!"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:36:02 PM CDT

    Really?

    by jonah echo

    I never noted him as being particularly a dick, or aggressive, but it's not like we are pals, or I really pay much attention to his personal life.

    Im just glad I don't have to watch Batman and feel guilty because he really beats up elderly people on the side.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:36:26 PM CDT

    Bales been acting

    by series7

    Since he was a kid, and he hasn't fucked up royal yet. Why would he now? He's probably just arrogent with all the success as of late.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:41:55 PM CDT

    I don't know Christian Bale personally

    by chittychittygangbang

    But he really played his part very well in American Psycho. Wouldn't it be funny if he was that much of a prick in real life? Without the homocidal tendecies of course.
    Wait a sec, it would be funny if had those tendencies.
    I laughed so hard when he put that nail gun to Chloe's head and when he was pointing to himself while banging that girl.
    Also when the ATM wanted him to feed it the kitten. God I love that movie for some reason.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:44:41 PM CDT

    Bale's hotel room...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Bale putting on raincoat:" You know mom when Huey Lewis hit his stride I think he finally broke out of the clutches of expectations and finally just started to have fun...(Starts swinging chrome axe around the room)"

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  • Jul 23, 2008 1:57:08 PM CDT

    All into bodily perfection

    by ironic_name

    machinist

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:00:30 PM CDT

    steven baldwin's best work was that movie he did with LDP

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/5v3n84

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:06:48 PM CDT

    movie I thought would be shit but ended up loving..

    by ironic_name

    the mechanik is well directed.. dolph can handle a scene well enough. and mulholland falls.. or drive.. the one with jenny connelly's boobs.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:10:57 PM CDT

    About Bale...

    by spud mcspud

    I'm English and I can't fucking believe we have a law that states you can't scream obscenities at someone! What the fuck kind of freedom is THAT?!?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:11:28 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo - re happines of katakuris

    by ironic_name

    look for "the quiet family" a 98 k-film miike gets all the credit for remaking much better, slow-burn humour.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:13:55 PM CDT

    I know why there won't be a Robin

    by chittychittygangbang

    I'm sure Nolan brought it up and Bale quickly stopped him mid-sentence and reminded him that he only had one sidekick and it was the one he slams into Batman groupies.
    I kid though, because for all I know he is a nice guy behind closed doors.
    I'm sure it is a pain to be rich and famous in the fact that it would be hard to find true friends and not remoras sucking to your fame.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:23:10 PM CDT

    About Richard Curtis...

    by spud mcspud

    I too hate that smug twat and all his foppish, upper-middle-class-gosh-isn't-life-simply-ripping bollocks. I mean, I don't subscribe to a Mike Leigh, Secrets-And-Lies view of England either - and I think Shane Meadows gets the very roughest end of working class English life EXACTLY right - but, to me, living in a working class area but educated at a private school (Assisted Places pupil - I pass a local government exam, they pay my fees to private school), no-one has ever got it right. The Curtis films feel too twee and sterilised, too nicey nicey, and I think stuff like Leigh's "Naked" and Meadows' "This is England" go too far in the miserabilist direction. The most accurate stuff from my perspective are the shitty comedies found on BBC3 and the Paramount Comedy channels over here: TWO PINTS OF LAGER AND A PACKET OF CRISPS, TIME GENTLEMEN PLEASE, TITTYBANGBANG. Working class humour at its bawdy, warm-hearted best.

    Oh, and LVOE ACTUALLY - exactly WHY is it great? What the fuck actually happens in it? Hugh Grant's PM bumbling like Hugh Grant always fucking does, chasing the foul-mouthed-for-comedy-effect (like ALL the fucking dialogue in VICAR OF DIBLEY) McCutcheon. Wow. Alan Rickman not-quite-cheating with his ugly secretary. How.. umm... average. Kris Marshall in five separate scenes essentially saying "I'm gonna get laid! By sexy American chicks!". nope, they'll call your accent "cute" and laugh at your sub-standard, English teeth. Bah. Only Bill Nighy gets a free pass, and even he's stilted, boring and not that interesting. In fact, fuck all happens in LOVE ACTUALLY, and I don't care if Keira Knightley does marry the Operative from SERENITY and grin like Stan Winston's Alien Queen, that movie is shit from top to bottom. Yes, even the Colin Firth and foreign nanny bits. FUCK. ALL. HAPPENS. And by God is it boring.

    Only adding Al Murray's Pub Landlord could have made that movie bearable.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:26:39 PM CDT

    Stephen Baldwin's best work is BIO DOME

    by spud mcspud

    And it's the best thing Kylie Minogue has ever done either. Yes, even better than STREET FIGHTER.

    BIO DOME rocks. As do JOE DIRT, BUBBLE BOY (bet this isn't on Jake Gylenhaal's CV these days), BASEKETBALL (ROADKILL: CAUGHT ON CAMERA. I fucking wept with laughter!), THE NEW GUY, and the daddy of all under-rated comedies, the sublime OFFICE SPACE. Every second in that movie is comedic perfection. IDIOCRACY was pretty damn funny too.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:33:29 PM CDT

    ironic_name

    by spud mcspud

    Dolph is pretty damn good in DARK ANGEL (I believe it was called I COM IN PEACE in the US). And I loved him in the so-shit-it's-awesome JOHNNY MNEMONIC, which was like a shit dry-run for THE MATRIX wwithout the intelligence or the talent. Batshit crazy movie. But it does have Henry Rollins, Dolph Lundgren, Ice-T, and the incredibly sexy Dina Meyer in it. Was I the only guy who got pissed off that they **SPOILER AHOY** killed Dina Meyer off in STARSHIP TROOPERS but not Denise Richards? For fuck's sake!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:44:44 PM CDT

    footage of bale and sister incident

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/5fm3n6

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:48:37 PM CDT

    the dolphin hacker was funny

    by ironic_name

    I want. A TEN thousand dollar a NIGHT HOOKER!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:51:50 PM CDT

    Stephen Baldwins best work was The Usual Suspects

    by xiphos_2

    Especially when he was singing old McDonald while setting up his shot on the guards talking to Gabrial Byrne outside the ship. "....On his farm he SHOT some dudes, Ei, Ei Ooh...""Didn't Baldwin become a christer or something? Dipped in the blood of the lamb and all?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 2:52:15 PM CDT

    facthunt! Time gentlemen please was great

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 23, 2008 2:57:04 PM CDT

    which baldwin was in the threesome movie with sherilin fenn?

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 23, 2008 3:02:16 PM CDT

    THEY TOOK ERIC ROBERTS'S THUMBS!

    by ironic_name

    once again, if this TB is locked, feel free to go to the zone to discuss shit snipes, van damm an' trejo movies. http://tinyurl.com/562ut2

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:11:19 PM CDT

    Baldwin did a skateboard vid?

    by xiphos_2

    Now that is humor. I'll need to look it up on Youtube, that shit has to ahve been posted there.DGDB: I was cruising through the titles on the Batman TB and opened the one Samsquanch mentioned me. I'll run across him at some point and tell him what's up. Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it.I see you're arguing with Node again and what is that USC dudes problem? I didn't read his posts because I haven't seen the movie.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:12:26 PM CDT

    DG

    by series7

    Dude, I lived in England for three years. I guess the people that talk about Shane Meadows being the real england grew up in the geotto, or are paki? Most of the time in England it was like those other bright and sunny movies. In fact England is so nice I almost got kicked out of private (the british version of public) school for having a bully pack. But at the same time the same kid I picked on a lot sent me a get well card when I broke my arm? I'd say for the best representation of british lifestyle watch the TV mini series The Street, its very good to boot. Well I'm off to marks and sparks to get me some Hula Hoops and Monster Munch. Then me and me mates are going to catch a movie at the cinema, its gonna be well wicked. MAN U!!!!!!!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:16:03 PM CDT

    Spud

    by xiphos_2

    I agree about killing off Dina Meyer instead of that block of wood Denise Richards. Although I think that comes from the book. I could be wrong though, I haven't read Starship Troopers in years. Why didn't they use the battle suits is my question. Those suits were cool as hell.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:25:02 PM CDT

    I posted this over in the TDK thread but I'll post here

    by hawaiian organ donor

    If there are any CoC'ers on the east coast who want some Asian movies, contact me in the Zone with a mailing address. I was cleaning out a closet last night and came across stacks of discs I burned when I didn't have a region free player and had to rip the movies I rented to remove the region coding so I could watch them on my region specific DVD player. I'll mail them out free of charge.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:29:43 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    Well if he went to The University of Spoiled Children, that Ghetto fabulous school, he would be full of shit. Although they do have a great football team I'll give'em that.Once you go to the, "I just had sex" card or threaten to kick somebodies ass on an annonymous website, you've proven yourself to be a tool of the highest order. Did he play the living in the parents basement card also? You know, the single most overused insult on the interwebs.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:33:23 PM CDT

    DGDB pt 2

    by xiphos_2

    I hit the enter button before I wrote this. The reason I added the _2 to my name so I could write the following sentence. Drop the duce Danny just drop it!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:40:07 PM CDT

    Go to youtube for Baldwin

    by chittychittygangbang

    I typed in Stephen Baldwin Christian and got a whole slate of awesome videos.
    And yes, the skatebaording was on there.
    Wow, you would think they would know how dated some of those saying are.
    Rad? I haven't used that word since someone asked the what the single greatest movie featuring a boy and girl at a dance on bicycles was.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:41:16 PM CDT

    Ok

    by series7

    I don't really get the zone? Do i need to make another account or what?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:42:37 PM CDT

    Xiphos, as a matter of fact he did

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Something about going back to drinking lite beer and eating Cheetos in your parents basement. That was a real eye roller.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:45:15 PM CDT

    Series7

    by hawaiian organ donor

    All you need to do to create an account in the Zone is enter a user and pass. I suggest you use your user here for simplicity. And I'll get that stuff out to you pronto.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:51:50 PM CDT

    Baldwin lost me when he became a Jebus freak

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I still love The Usual Suspects but he's gone off his nut. Almost as bad as Kirk Cameron with his Way of the Master nonsense.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 3:58:40 PM CDT

    That Baldwin Skateboard stuff is a riot

    by xiphos_2

    It reminds me of one of the few really laugh out loud bits from Dogma, when the Church updated Jesus as Buddy Christ. That was funny, they made him look like a hitchiker, now that's humor.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:05:52 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by spud mcspud

    Nah, it's not the "I'm harder than Ray Winstone" thing. At least, not from me - maybe other Brits.

    It's just that I am working class, raised (and currently living in) working class areas, and they're never adequately represented in British cinema. You either get the grim-as-hell Northern dystopian movies like KES, NAKED, anything by Mike Leigh, or the daddy of all grim Northern dramas, the horror show THREADS - or you get the cheeky chappy Cockney crime dramas, your LOCK STOCKS, THIS YEAR'S LOVE etc. Shane Meadows at least approximates, better than anyone else, the speech, the slang, the attitudes, the background... I do share an East Midlands heritage with Shane (we grew up less than 20 miles away from each other) so maybe it's regional, but he seems to be the most authentic. It's not a pissing contest - Mike Leigh's Northern stuff is bleaker (especially NAKED) and you can't beat Manchester, Liverpool or Leeds for criminal squalor (I hate to admit it, but SHAMELESS is also pretty accurate as regards working class life, and it's as Mancunian as they come) so it's not a case of me wanting to be seen as an 'ard bastard. I mean, I live up the road from Nottingham, which is fairly bad for gun crime, but not a patch on the Mancs or the Scousers.

    As for the upper-class life, which I tasted as a working-class boy at an upper-class boarding school paid for by an Assisted Place... I hate to say it, but the HARRY POTTER movies pretty much nail the boarding school experience. Obviously minus pretty much all the negatives - where I went, if it were more realistic, Draco would be raping Potter while Crabbe and Goyle were holding him down, and that's NOT an exaggeration - but the sense of history, the way it's filmed, the relationships between the characters - all spot on for the boarding school experience. Honourable mentions must go to IF... (which is an anarchist classic, as well as a bang-on representation of boarding school life) - I know EXACTLY how McDowell felt at the end! - and DEAD POETS SOCIETY (hey, I was in a poetry and literature society, they are JUST like that). By and large, life in the UK is more sweetness and light than dark and gritty (despite what the media would have you think) and Noel Clarke's movies (KIDULTHOOD / ADULTHOOD) are more a way to feed the Daily Mail negativity media than a true representation of the UK today. But I haven't seen a moderate working-class movie that accurately depicts what the working class that AREN'T scum get up to. I know plenty of no-hoper skanks who behave EXACTLY like the Gallaghers in SHAMELESS, and I know plenty of middle/upper class twats who aspire to be as pathetic as those scrotes, but as to average working class Midlanders who enjoy life without wanting to rob each other or get high every night, there's no real representation at all. Shane Meadows is the closest you'll get.

    Being English (or British - I'm not precious) is a curiously schizophrenic thing you find yourself apologising for a lot. But no, I don't want you guys thinking I'm trying to portray my life in the big hard white ghetto or anything. If anything, it's depressingly middle-of-the-road in all ways.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:28:33 PM CDT

    What's wrong with Cheetos?

    by xiphos_2

    They're tasty! Right now though I would kill to have an In-N-Out Burger Double Double and a strawberry shake. Or a Pizza.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:30:04 PM CDT

    Or Fritos!

    by xiphos_2

    Damn I screwed that one up.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:36:58 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by spud mcspud

    I've not seen MILLIONS, though I have to admit I liked the look of it. Danny Boyle seems quite good at nailing the working-class character - Ewan McGregor in A LIFE LESS ORDINARY is very much the working class guy who isn't a scumbag. I think the middle-middle-class is very over-represented if you watch BBC1 sitcoms over here - stuff like 2 POINT 4 CHILDREN, MY FAMILY, ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE, WAITING FOR GOD... all very middle-class and twee.

    It's funny how touchy we Brits are about what class we perceive ourselves to be in, and what we want others to perceive us as. I always thought one of the most astute observations on class in this country was COMMON PEOPLE by Pulp - the lyrics to that song are bang-on. There is a set of people - Rhys Ifans is a very good example, as is crack twat Pete Doherty - who are rolling in money, stinking filthy rich, yet wander around looking like tramps and completely disregarding personal hygiene. I will never understand why the upper class have a fascination with being working class - or why the working class are so keen to live down to the stereotype given in SHAMELESS when they could aspire to better. I try to aspire to beter behaviour, but I'm not ashamed of my working class heritage - even though I feel like an outsider having spent the ages 11-16 around upper class people more than working class.

    Man, it's confusing up in my head. I yam what I yam, that's all that I yam. Cug yug yug.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:42:43 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    No I'm not in Iraq that was my previous deployment and where I got dinged up a little bit.Foods pretty good, can't really bitch about it, its just that I want a double double. I've been thinking about one for the last week or so. I'm a big fan of In-N-Out, its one of few fast foods I'll eat. The other ones being Fat Burger and Tommy Burger.Have you ever been to the orginal Fat Burger on La Cieniga south of the Beverly Center? That place is fun to eat at. You got everybody throwing the hairy eyeball at each other. Good times.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 4:55:40 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    No I could say if I wanted to. Its just that I choose not to due to the fact that there are some extreme knuckle heads on a TB and I can't defend myself from pointy headed attacks. I'll give it up in late September when I'm back if you want, or if your on the zone email me. I'm Xiphos there also.And a good night to you sir I'm off to bed.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 5:04:19 PM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Contact me in the Zone and I'll get some movies out to you too.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 6:56:24 PM CDT

    Thank you! Mori

    by spectrebeeyatch

    A lot of people here are giving you shit. I think this open letter is cool.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:38:13 PM CDT

    Hawaiian...zoned ya!

    by just pillow talk

    You are a true patriot of the CoC!

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:39:02 PM CDT

    oh...and this thread...#1 with a fucking bullet!

    by just pillow talk

    Millions is a nice little movie BTW...

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:39:59 PM CDT

    spectrebeeyatch

    by just pillow talk

    Not any of the CoC members...we appreciate Mori's letter, and we are looking forward to the movie as well.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 8:46:06 PM CDT

    You mods need to open a /b/-style forum

    by dr sauch

    for this site.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:14:08 PM CDT

    Speaking Harvey's Language

    by spymunk

    Talkbackers are right on this one, Moriarty. You could spend 5000 hours talking about quality, audience, writing, characterization, style, art, substance, dimension, detail, skill, craft, intelligence, sophistication, beauty ... and it would mean absolutely nothing to this man. It would mean less than nothing. Harvey Weinstein has throughout his career made it clear that he cares SO little about the creative process and about creative people that he would gladly not even RELEASE the most artistic film ever made if it meant he'd make ten cents more for his studio by doing so.

    I do want to commend you for caring so deeply about a film that you'd write this letter, but you'd be better served by coming up with a way to convince him this can make money.

    The tough part about that, of course, is that if the trailers are to be believed it doesn't look like it can. The budget looks SUB Sci-Fi channel, and the sets and costumes smack of Uwe Boll's BLOODRAYNE.

    You criticize us for having a defeatist attitude, but it's there for a reason. Genre fans like us have learned two hard lessons - studios DESPISE us so much they grit their teeth 'til blood comes out when someone suggests a genre picture be made (unless it can be 'sold' as something else - "Don't think of it as fantasy - think of it as hot guys in fetish theme gear! The gay crowd will LOVE it!" - LORD OF THE RINGS) and the rest of the world LAUGHS at us (unless they're watching the hot guys in LORD OF THE RINGS).

    I know you think that I say this stuff to sound smart, but it's not the case. I just recognize this movie has NO chance of making money. Not even a little chance. None. You could put this in 3000 theaters and you'd get $4m on the opening weekend. You could advertise it all summer. At the end of the day, Mori, the cost is going to outweigh ANYONE's interest, and it'll make its budget back straight to DVD. In fact, if Harvey is smart, he won't even bother with those 50 theaters and will put it straight to video.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 9:57:14 PM CDT

    HOD..how does one go to the "zone"?

    by jonah echo

    Im always up for some free dvds. Not a member of the COC though. Maybe in spirit perhaps?

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  • Jul 23, 2008 10:37:27 PM CDT

    You did a good thing here, Mori

    by exie

    Don't let anyone make you think different. It's what I miss about this site. Harry's blatant pimping of his friends mediocre movies is insulting. This site used to be about finding that unknown gem that none of us knew about and bringing some light to it. You did just that and I can tell you I will definitely watch this movie in whatever form when it comes out.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:47:02 PM CDT

    Ok Jarv

    by series7

    If your still there, I just saw Sir Paul Giamatti on the best late night show Jimmy Kimmel and he mentioned some Brit movie he made with Beno called Thunderpants. Please send me a copy of this. A thank you.

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  • Jul 23, 2008 11:48:55 PM CDT

    Too True, Exie

    by spymunk

    I'd never heard of OUTLANDER and now that I have I'm going to check it out. It might be good. Who knows? But trying to suggest Harvey Weinstein could find it in himself to care even for a split-second about the creative process or people or ANYTHING beyond $-signs is foolish to say the least. Harvey Weinstein isn't a human being, even. He's proved with his "creative" decisions thar he's a soulless beast being whipped by Corporate Masters. He has no mind of his own, no soul and no spirit. And there's no way this could open in more than 50 theaters because of that.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:43:38 AM CDT

    Series7 - RE: Thunderpants

    by spymunk

    Dude, you've got to see THUNDERPANTS for one reason and one reason alone. The movie sucks horribly except for this one thing, - it features Rupert Grint aka Ron Weasley doing what I consider to be the honest-to-god most hilarious impression of Tom Waits as Renfield from DRACULA. I swear to god, if I ever meet Rupert Grint, I am going to ask him if it was on purpose, because it just HAS to be intentional. See the movie and tell me if I'm right. Spymunk@gmail.com

    Also, check out my blog: www.spymunk.blogspot.com. PLEASE comment - comments are welcome!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:41:04 AM CDT

    Tombodet

    by xiphos_2

    I believe that the power of Ron "the Penguin" Cey keeps GRL(tm) at bay. The power of the penguin can't be denied. Even if he played for the evil LA Dodgers

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:37:07 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo - you need an account [its free, obviously]

    by ironic_name

    basically like this main area, only you have to do it again, but in the zone you can post pictures.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:18:50 AM CDT

    Spud

    by lost jarv

    I put this in the Batman talkback- The law actually is Simple/ Common Assault which is (I think) section 47 of the CJA- basically, the law states that you are guilty if you intentionally cause the apprehension of immediate physical harm. It's very rarely used as battery/ ABH happen far more often.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:19:43 AM CDT

    Top TB.

    by lost jarv

    Good work fellas. I'm back on quota time so can't help out.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:20:50 AM CDT

    I watched the WIcker Man again last night

    by lost jarv

    Awesome film- especially the performance from Edward Woodward. Is it wrong to actually want the uptight prick burnt at the stake?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:21:59 AM CDT

    I second that Love, Actually is unwatchable dreck

    by lost jarv

    Die in fire Curtis, you smug fucking twat.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:31:52 AM CDT

    Danny, it isn't about being tough

    by lost jarv

    It's about accurate representations. I've got a similar background to the tubor, and have mixed in all parts- but there's something about his smug aristo tosspieces that I find personally offensive. Partly because it perpetuates the myth of the English as floppy haired stuttering nobheads and partly because the moaning they do about inconsequential problems does not represent the reality most of us face. The absolute best balance I've ever seen was in The Full Monty. It hit the line between urban misery and lower middle class life spot on.And Thunderpants is shit. Avoid.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:33:03 AM CDT

    BTW

    by lost jarv

    Spud, what fucking school did you go to? I went to a posh boarding school and in 5 years I can't remember a single incident of homosexuality. Mind you, it was co-ed by the time I was there and plenty of that shit happened in the past.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:33:59 AM CDT

    Millions is a good film

    by lost jarv

    Shallow Grave is also a fucking good indication of how young professionals actually live

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:34:25 AM CDT

    Except without the murder

    by lost jarv

    or maybe they do. I don't know.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:35:26 AM CDT

    see you later

    by lost jarv

    Quota kicked in again.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:55:31 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv did the man take you down

    by xiphos_2

  • Jul 24, 2008 6:09:35 AM CDT

    Yup.

    by lost jarv

    Quota time and a fucking disciplinary in the same day. How shit.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:10:32 AM CDT

    and It's really nice outside.

    by lost jarv

    I'm not doing any work- just gazing out the window.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:14:23 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by xiphos_2

    Is the bird watching good out that window? Glad you have good weather I sure as shit don't.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:21:17 AM CDT

    it's fucking pouring outside here...

    by just pillow talk

    Probably mean my AP clerk and credit and collections chick won't be wearing nice tops today.Damn.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:57:10 AM CDT

    Ebert's X-Files review..

    by jonah echo

    http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080723/REVIEWS/1651704

    It seems to me that Ebert has a better view of the whole thing that the review here. Yes, I know he has been quite positive lately, but at least here I get an actual feeling for what the movie is, and is about. It sounds good to me, regardless of Ebert's personal comments on it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:15:11 AM CDT

    it does make it sound like one of stand-alone eps

    by just pillow talk

    I probably won't see this in the theater, but it'll be a quality rental it seems.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:24:07 AM CDT

    Jonah and JPT

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Jonah, just create an account in the Zone and I recommend using the same user and pass as you do for the TBs to limit confusion. Send me your mailing address and I'll get some movies out to you as your commitment to excellence and knowledge of B-movies has been an inspiration.Pillow, I'll get your package out to you on Monday and it'll be sent overnight.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:27:04 AM CDT

    Ok so why in the

    by series7

    X-Files trailer do they say "Sexy"! Is that going to drawn more people? X-Files may be a sleeper hit but I don't see it doing more then 70 mil. Especially with a William Farrell comedy that actually looks funny (watch the red band trailer, it really does).

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:38:29 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You can also send me an e-mail at my spam account, but just put something good in the subject line so I know it's you. I haven't logged in for a couple years so I hope it's still active.grumpy_is_good@yahoo.com

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:41:48 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    I live in Maryland, is that a problem? Ill drop some B-goodness in the subject line...

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:42:41 AM CDT

    Series..

    by jonah echo

    If it makes 70 mil, which might be alot, depending on who comes out for this, then it will be in good shape. It only cost 30 mil to make.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:43:22 AM CDT

    The trailer actually looks kind of cool

    by stormshadow4life

    it starts off lame...but picks up
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBIp8uv58I

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:45:09 AM CDT

    Oh, and since..

    by jonah echo

    Seems X-Files is going the psychic route, what great or just greatly wierd movies revolve around psychics? Favorites?

    Me, I'm voting The Dead Zone.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:45:58 AM CDT

    stormshadow

    by jonah echo

    I cant see youtube right now. What is it a trailer for?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:50:01 AM CDT

    Ok a little off topic

    by series7

    But we were discussing Mel Gibson movies at work, and we honestly couldn't think of a movie of his that we didn't like. Like I don't think he's made a bad movie. Maybe you didn't like Leathal Weapon but it was still damn entertaining.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:52:19 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by series7

    I'm saying 70 mil at best, but it could also do only 20 mil. They need to play up the David D more, he's really popular right now. Only X-Files fans remember Scully, though she was on Leno the other night.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:53:49 AM CDT

    HOD

    by series7

    Due to my current office situation I can't read this entire thread, only small amounts at a time. But are you giving away a bunch of movies? Like do you have a list?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:59:05 AM CDT

    Series..

    by jonah echo

    With Mel, I'd argue "What Women Want", "Lethal Weapon 4", "Forever Young" but at the same time none of those were terrible. Most people don't know it, but Million Dollar Hotel wasn't really that great either.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:08:45 AM CDT

    many thanks again Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    Soon my turn to the darkside will be complete....

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:09:40 AM CDT

    Series and Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I have a bundles of movies at home and right now I can't remember any specific titles as they've been sitting in a closet for the past 6 months. But there will be a lot of stuff in there like Public Enemy, Running Wild, Welcome to Dongmokgol, A Bittersweet Life, Mr. Socrates, Arahan, Typhoon. Basically stuff that's a few years old but that even the most fluent Asain movie fans will have missed. And I'm willing to send it out to you, free of charge.Jonah, Maryland is fine. Hell, I'm willing to send some out to Danny and that SOB lives in California.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:10:55 AM CDT

    Series7/Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    I would definitely agree with Jonah on LW4 and Forever Young. However, I'll give a slight pass to What Women Want because of Helen Hunt.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:12:54 AM CDT

    Also CoC'ers

    by hawaiian organ donor

    If you have a DVD player that can play DIVX/AVI/MPEG files then I can triple the amount of movies I can send you.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:22:12 AM CDT

    Mel's Cannon

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I didn't like LW3&4, but I'm one of the few guys who will defend What Women Want. When it comes to romcoms, I'm sucker for anything that doesn't sink to Failure to Launch or Maid In Manhattan levels.I never saw Passion so I can't comment.But with Mel we have the Mad Max stuff, LW1&2, Payback, We Were Soldiers and of course as I have declared my creepy love for lately, The Patriot and Apocalypto. And his voiceover in Chicken Run was great. And if I remember corrrectly Conspiracy Theory was pretty good.He does have some dreck on that resume though.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:31:02 AM CDT

    What Women Want

    by lost jarv

    is better movies than that patronising garbage. Although I do always laugh when he accidentally electrocutes himself.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:37:14 AM CDT

    We're #2 again

    by hawaiian organ donor

    C'mon fellas, get the lead out.I'm not sure if there's an actor/filmmaker with a perfect track record. Personally, Ridley Scott and Michael Mann come reeeeeeally close. Maybe one misstep a piece in my book.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:41:00 AM CDT

    Pfffft!

    by franklin t marmoset

    Michael Mann made Ali, which proved it is possible to make a dull film about one of the twentieth century's most charismatic men. Damn you, Michael Mann.I want to say something nice, but I just saw The Dark Knight and I have very little that's nice to say.Um... Megan Fox has a wonderful, wonderful midrif. That'll have to do.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:43:34 AM CDT

    damn...it's like the fucking Indy thread

    by just pillow talk

    And Ali really was bland and uninteresting.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:45:27 AM CDT

    Ali was like Miami Vice

    by just pillow talk

    Though I did promise Danny Boy that I'd give Miami Vice another shot at some point.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:46:46 AM CDT

    HOD..you are awesome..

    by jonah echo

    I liked Typhoon and Arahan(though maybe a bit too silly). I play everything on my PS3, so those are my limitations now.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:49:12 AM CDT

    Then there's your misstep

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I didn't hate Ali, I just found it wasn't very engaging. But Thief, Manhanter, Mohicans, Heat, The Insider and Collateral, that's a damn fine resume. I left off Miami Vice because that was his misstep for me.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:50:30 AM CDT

    As much as Juno annoyed me...

    by franklin t marmoset

    (And it really, really annoyed me) I still think Diablo Cody has some talent. All she needs to do is dial it down a bit. If you want people to know how clever and funny you are, just be clever and funny and people will figure it out for themselves. If you keep shouting "HEY! CHECK OUT HOW SMART AND FUNNY I AM!!", people will just want you to shut the fuck up.I look forward to whatever she does next, even if Juno did make me want to throw squashed up pop cans at a fictional character.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:51:51 AM CDT

    clearly he's had many more hits than misses

    by just pillow talk

    Though the ending of Collateral bothers me to no end. Sorry, but there's no way Tommy boy gets offed by cab driver.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:52:36 AM CDT

    Ridley has more blemishes on his..

    by jonah echo

    Someone to Watch Over Me is pretty sucky. I didn't care much for Black Rain. Thelma and Louise also wasnt much to write home about. White Squall was forgettable. Hannibal was pretty weak. A Good Year had it's moments, but didnt go anywhere really. G.I.Jane? Yea, there are some less than awesome gigs on Ridley's list.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:52:52 AM CDT

    I had forgotten about Miami Vice

    by franklin t marmoset

    Which I suppose sums up my experience of that one.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:55:12 AM CDT

    I love Black Rain

    by lost jarv

    overlooked classic that one.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:55:33 AM CDT

    We need to keep going..gotta get this talkback

    by jonah echo

    to the 1000s. I think that's a realistic goal at this rate.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:55:55 AM CDT

    I wanted to punch Ridley Scott

    by franklin t marmoset

    During the third act of Matchstick Men, I really would like to have punched Ridley Scott, while he still had one of his fat cigars in his mouth, so it got all splayed out across his face like in a cartoon or somesuch. That film has such an ugly and onvious twist. I sat through that film, mostly enjoying, with my fingers crossed, saying a silent prayer of "Don't do it, don't do it", but then they went and fucking did it. Bastards.If you've seen the film, you know what I mean.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:57:24 AM CDT

    That is obvious, obviously

    by franklin t marmoset

    If I had my mobile phone bat sonar with me, I would not have made that typo.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:57:53 AM CDT

    Jarv..

    by jonah echo

    Yea, I meet several who really like Black Rain, but me personally, I thought it was just o.k. though I had hoped for more after seeing that it was Mike Douglas and Ridley "Bladerunner" Scott. It's been about 15 years since I saw it though, so maybe it's time for a new look at it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:58:09 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm going to assume the PS3 can play every type of file then.I'll e-mail you back with titles so I don't send you stuff you've already seen.I stand corrected. After looking at IMDB, Ridley Scott has a few missteps so I guess that puts him in the same category as Senior Spielbergo.Day-Lewis has a pretty impressive resume. Then again, he chooses his roles carefully and infrequently so he has less to critique than say, Harrison Ford.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:59:32 AM CDT

    Franklin..

    by jonah echo

    You are right. Matchstick Men was heading down the path of Ridley greatness. That third act munged it up, but didn't kill it for me. It's still 2/3rds of a great movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:01:23 AM CDT

    American Gangster

    by lost jarv

    not great. It felt heaviy unbalanced.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:01:25 AM CDT

    An underrated Ridley classic

    by jonah echo

    is The Duellists. Anyone ever see this? It was made before Alien. Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine as two men fighting repeatedly over the course of the Napoleonic Wars.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:02:27 AM CDT

    Didnt like American Gangster..

    by jonah echo

    just felt pretty standard and bland.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:02:43 AM CDT

    I liked Black Rain too

    by just pillow talk

    That was back when I though Andy Garcia was cool.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:03:52 AM CDT

    thought Andy...

    by just pillow talk

    Fuck...maybe my sonar is out of whack too.I thought American Gangster was just okay, nothing spectacular.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:04:58 AM CDT

    I don't wish Diablo Cody harm

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I just wish she would shut up and write. Stay in the background and let your writing do your talking for you. That's what happened to Kevin Smith. He wanted to be in the spotlight too much and became known more for his antics than his films and it became his downfall. Granted, he's got influence and money (two things I'll never have) but he's really only made one good film and that was 14 years ago so Cody needs to take note.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:10:11 AM CDT

    I liked American Gangster

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not a great one, but still pretty good. I think if you put together a team like Scott, Zaillian, Washington and Crowe (plus that supporting cast), expectations go through the roof, and it wasn't capable of meeting them.It's still a decent watch, though.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:11:09 AM CDT

    if harvey is anything like every other exec, then...

    by thekylegassproject

    mori might have been a bit sanctimonious in describing why he liked the film. i imagine the reading of this letter went something like this...

    HARVEY'S ASSISTANT: ...sir, here is a letter from one of the personalities of that geek site AICN.

    HARVEY: what? well hand it over. *grumble, grumble* "crashlands on earth in the time of vikings" *grumble, grumble* "overpowered after an encounter with wulfric"...Jones, what the fuck is this?

    HARVEY

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:11:13 AM CDT

    The Duelists

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is awesome. Nobody even knows it exists.I saw the 3-hour version of American Gangster the same day I saw Jesse James and Michael Clayton. I was knocked out on the couch with a fever of 103 and delirious. I loved all 3 movies. I'm afraid to watch any of them again for fear my flu influenced my opinion.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:15:03 AM CDT

    if harvey is anything like every other exec, then...

    by thekylegassproject

    mori might have been a bit sanctimonious in describing why he liked the film. ya gotta keep these things brief. i imagine the reading of this letter went something like this...

    HARVEY'S ASSISTANT: ...sir, here is a letter from one of the personalities of that geek site AICN.

    HARVEY: what? well hand it over. *grumble, grumble* "crashlands on earth in the time of vikings" *grumble, grumble* "overpowered after an encounter with wulfric"...Jones, what the fuck is this?

    HARVEY'S ASSISTANT (JONES): i'm sorry, sir...

    HARVEY: what else ya got for me?

    JONES: i just picked up your new benz off the lot. it's waxed and ready to go. also, quentin wants to come in about "bastards."

    HARVEY: sure, sure. listen. NEW CARS DON'T GET WAXED!


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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:16:09 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    I have it on dvd, The Duelists and take every opportunity to introduce others to it. I also have a soft spot for the Legend:Director's Cut. Heck, I even like 1492.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:16:17 AM CDT

    I've added the Duelists to the queue...

    by just pillow talk

    it sounds pretty interesting to me.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:16:27 AM CDT

    How did Cody do research for...

    by chittychittygangbang

    How did research the language for Juno? Did she interview teens for vocal style and current lingo?
    I just remember Cameron Crowe going undercover and that high school in California before he did Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
    He knocked that one out of the park. Loved that movie.
    Juno was watchable, but the language of Page was most distracting to me, which seemed to get the best reviews. Maybe I'm crazy.
    Garner looking in the nursery not saying anything, but nervously fidgeting screamed louder than most of the dialogue. That was my favorite part of the movie.
    And when it showed her at the end of the movie looking at the baby and doing things on her own. Amazing.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:21:11 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by series7

    Aaaahhh Million Dollar Hotel did suck. Third arm? I'd watch Forever Young any day of the week that movie was good. And What Women Want is one of best Rom Coms ever, speaking only in terms of Rom Coms. Outside of that it may suck, but I'd rather watch What Women Want then any Freddie Prince Jr. crap. For a Rom Com to be entertaining means that it was successful. Like I said about Leatheal Weapon, maybe you thought it to be ridiculos and over the top but it was damn entertaining.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:21:52 AM CDT

    Garner was good in Juno, Chitty

    by franklin t marmoset

    As to the dialogue thing, I don't think it's necessary for dialogue to be realistic. All dialogue has to be stylised to some extent, but Cody's problem is she goes too far overboard with it. It's a kind of insecurity, I think, which maybe is understandable given that this was her first screenplay. I just wish someone had been on hand to edit here and there.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:25:03 AM CDT

    I never got your take on The Dark Knight, JPT

    by franklin t marmoset

    Did you like it?I'm feeling a little confused at the moment. I read a bunch of reviews, and for the life of me I feel like I just saw a different film.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:26:25 AM CDT

    Franklin..what did you think?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 24, 2008 9:26:57 AM CDT

    That makes sense Franklin

    by chittychittygangbang

    When someone is insecure, they tend to go overboard to make sure they do everthing right to get the attention they want.
    Maybe she felt if some was good, then more was better as far as the verbal output and style of Page's mouth.
    I will have to watch it again and see if gets any better.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:30:23 AM CDT

    Ridely has a bunch of stuff

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I forgot he directed. Like 1492, White Squall, GI Jane and Hannibal. Hannibal was garbage and I don't remember if the other 3 were good or not. When I mentioned him I was only thinking about The Deulists, Alien, Blade Runner, Legend, Black Rain, Thelma and Louise, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, A Good Year, Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) and American Gangster. Those are all good to perfect movies for me and very few directors have a dozen movies I want to watch more than once.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:32:17 AM CDT

    a DK tidbit

    by jonah echo

    Adds more glorious fuel to the fire of the What is Two Face's status at end of DK.


    Eckhart Agrees To Third Batman

    Film23 July 2008 9:10 AM, PDT | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news


    Aaron Eckhart would reprise his role from The Dark Knight - because working with Christian Bale is "phenomenal".

    Eckhart, who plays District Attorney Harvey Dent in the sequel, confesses he "absolutely" would star in a third Batman film.

    He tells WENN, "To work with Christian (Bale) all over again, and the cast, would be phenomenal. I think this movie is a movie of a lifetime."

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:33:29 AM CDT

    Enjoyed Legend

    by chittychittygangbang

    The demon in that movie could be Hellboy's dad with the horns and all.
    I didn't know there was a director's cut as I went to the theater to see it.
    Is there a big difference?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:34:35 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    I sent you an email.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:35:10 AM CDT

    Good morning Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You're up and about at the crack of dawn I see.TDK thread is killing us.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:35:14 AM CDT

    Frankie - I absolutely loved TDK

    by just pillow talk

    Danny, will do. That's interesting that the director's cut is worse in your opinion.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:36:11 AM CDT

    The Dark Knight

    by franklin t marmoset

    I thought it was okay at best, maybe a little better than Begins, which was not a film I was nuts about. It has a lot of the same problems as Begins - the overly serious tone, the heavy-handedness, the uninspired action scenes - but it has the good points as well - solid character writing, Michael Caine as Alfred, um... that's it. I thought Aaron Eckhart was very good, but that guy is good in pretty much everything.Coming out of the cinema, I just felt weird. So much hype, so many great reviews and responses, and I wanted to be as excited about a new Batman film as everyone else seems to be. But I thought it was mostly alright and, in some places, downright awful.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:36:23 AM CDT

    Dioblo

    by series7

    I don't think you can compare her to Smith, maybe Will Wheaton or Parez Hilton. Because at least smith did something before he got famous, he just didn't get famous for having a blog. And he didn't glamorize a terrible situation in a womens life. Also he actually directed a movie, didn't just leech off of some hack son of a used to be good director. Also Smith didn't have the world kissing his feet about how new he was. I used to think Crash winning best movie was the worst Oscar given out, then she won. God last year sucked so bad for movies. The Cohen brothers getting recognized for one of there lesser films that also plays out like a dramatic remake of one of their older movies. And Javier winning an oscar for one of his lesser performences. I was still amazed that Once won for song, only because with the way things turned out Disney should've won, at least they got that right. Oh yeah Smith is actually funny as well, and Dogma is a great movie. He isn't a one timer.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:36:57 AM CDT

    Danny and the X-files

    by just pillow talk

    I probably won't be checking it out in the theater, but will definitely on DVD. Give us a review tomorrow on it. I'm hoping for a classic X-files 'feel' to it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:38:16 AM CDT

    not every comic book movie can be like FF...

    by just pillow talk

    Perhaps Batman needed a Silver Surfer in it?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:42:49 AM CDT

    Aaron Eckhart

    by series7

    I don't get the love for this guy. He's kind of crap. Most of the time he comes off as a guy thats seen Wall Street too many times. Also what was with the Shaggy hair? He's the fucking DA, any big lawyer knows not to have hair on your collar. Also I guess Bruce was trained to fight 100 men in Begins but 100 < 3 dogs?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:44:33 AM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I use the same moniker in the Zone as I do here but I also posted an e-mail address above that I use just as a spam account so you can send something to me there, just use a detailed subject line because I might overlook "Dickblood" among all the "penis and Viagra" subject lines.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:44:42 AM CDT

    That is a low blow, pillow

    by franklin t marmoset

    A low blow, and after I never made any jokes about your secret love for Andy Garcia.Anyway, when you have Christian Bale in that goofy suit talking to regularly dressed men with that ridiculous billy goat gruff accent, I don't think a naked Silver guy on a flying surfboard would help all that much. It's daft enough already, we don't have to overdo it. Who are we, Diablo Cody?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:47:03 AM CDT

    Also TDK

    by series7

    The best performence given in that movie was Oldman. Hands down! Oldman, who's known for playing the over the top villian, would've toped Heath Bar's performence (probably because he reads directions?). But for Oldman to pull off a restrienghed performence like that, while everyone else is having a deep voice contest. He was the only character I cared about. I liked Heaths performence, but it took me until the interogation seen to really buy it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:47:07 AM CDT

    So Franklin..can we assume then..

    by jonah echo

    that Rumpelstilstken > The Dark Knight?

    Just messing with ya, man. Sorry you didn't enjoy it more.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:47:35 AM CDT

    you know I must always take my FF potshots

    by just pillow talk

    at you. It's really pretty standard now.I think Silver Surfer should be digitally added to bad romcoms to blast those characters with his power cosmic.Who doesn't carry some secret Andy love with them? Who?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:50:18 AM CDT

    And The Dark Knight

    by series7

    Was pretty funny actually. I'm really torn about it. Because everyone's acting like there hasn't been a good movie in forever before TDK cam along, and I've seen so many good movies this summer. I thought Hellboy 2 was better, just because I don't feel like watching TDK again, I could see Hellboy 2 over and over again. And I really wasn't some huge GDT fan either, its the first film of his I've really really liked, wait no...second Blade 2. That man can make a bad ass sword fight.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:51:07 AM CDT

    We need a new topic now..

    by jonah echo

    We are starting to fall to the star wars talkback..

    How bout best horror films from the early days? 30s and 40s?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:51:18 AM CDT

    I don't know about Rumpelstiltskin, Jonah

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I will say this:Leprechaun In Space > The Dark Knight

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:51:25 AM CDT

    I think Aaron is a better actor when he's angry

    by just pillow talk

    Perhaps he needs half his face melted off and his work will always be of high quality. Seriously, I just think he's alright, nothing spectacular. Just watched him in No Reservations last night, which was a passable movie. Sunshine tonight, and then ugh!! The Other Boyleyn Girl.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:52:32 AM CDT

    Add Silver Surfer to Six Days, Seven nights

    by chittychittygangbang

    That movie with Harrison Ford and Anna 'I'm confued' Heche.
    He could even have really surfed up to the island before unleashing the fury.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:52:49 AM CDT

    Who the fuck wants to talk about Star Wars anymore?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Didn't that die a while back? I heard something about it, I think.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:52:52 AM CDT

    Kevin Smith

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Series, maybe I need to give Dogma another shot. And Smith is funny as is evident by his speech in front of a college crowd when describing his experience about writing the Superman script. It's up on YouTube and it's funny as hell. His wit is fantastic and his timing is even better. Unfortunately, he's got a super-sized ego and thin skin. I wish him a return to form but Mallrats, Jay and Silent Bob, Jeresy Girl and Clerks 2 ranged from either not very good to outright crap. Certainly not what I expected from the guy at the beginning of his career. But I have a feeling he has infinitely more talent than Cody ever will.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:53:41 AM CDT

    Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein

    by just pillow talk

    My favorite one.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:54:07 AM CDT

    Oldman is impressive..

    by jonah echo

    especially if while you are watching this, you bring to mind his character from Fifth Element and his Dracula and the villain from The Professional. In TDK his take on Gordon looks exactly like my dad. My wife kept commenting on it through the film. Oldman deserves a nom as much as anyone else who would be considered for this movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:56:22 AM CDT

    Has no one seen In The Company Of Men?

    by franklin t marmoset

    He's fucking great in that. One of the great movie pricks. Watch that film and I defy anyone to refer to Aaron Ackhart as ordinary.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:56:31 AM CDT

    Fave old horrors

    by jonah echo

    Almost anything from Val Lewton. That original Cat People film is one of the best horror films I've ever seen.Actually just plain one of the best films. I love the way they use a horror trope to make a movie basically about a busted, troubled marriage and the effect of sexual repression on the psyche. What a great, great movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:59:02 AM CDT

    Hellboy 2 was great too

    by just pillow talk

    Just watched Blade 2 again the other night...that movie kicks ass too.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:59:20 AM CDT

    The Old Dark House

    by jonah echo

    It was the movie James Whale made between Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein(which is also one of my faves). It's the template for almost every "old dark house and creepy family and ecclectic group of strangers" movie that followed. All those failed movies like Nothing But Trouble and Haunted Honeymoon were all trying to catch this film's magic. Anyone see it? I kind of suspect this family was the template for the Addam's family. If not the whole clan, at least Lurch owes much to Karloff's butler in this.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:03:03 AM CDT

    Val Newton fact

    by chittychittygangbang

    Forgot about Lewton and looked him up on IMDB. He was a story editor on Gone With the Wind. Impressive.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:09:26 AM CDT

    Oh I didn't hate it

    by chittychittygangbang

    I just thought it would be fun to see Silver Surfer show up and start blasting.
    One of my favorite quotes from the movie is when Heche is arguing with Ford and screams "And there's nothing wrong with my tits!!"
    Now that I think about it, the plane in the cloud scenes were pretty impressive.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:11:00 AM CDT

    In The Company of Men

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is fantastic. The guy screaming at the end was a helluva way to cut to credits.Danny, got your e-mail. Jonah, didn't get yours yet so I don't know if you need to try again.grumpy_is_good@yahoo.com Surprised that account still works. Had two years of spam piled up.No Reservations. Well, it was a passable romcom but one you only watch once.Keep an open mind for the third act of Sunshine, Pillow.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:14:37 AM CDT

    Anthrax?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I could include their discography I suppose.Black Lagoon is the first creature feature I saw. Brilliant movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:15:40 AM CDT

    I still haven't seen Indy IV

    by chittychittygangbang

    I had too many people tell me to wait for the DVD, but I still wish I had seen it in the theaters anyway.
    I just remember how hot Ford's first girlfriend was in 6 days 7 nights. Damn

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:17:30 AM CDT

    Check again HOD

    by jonah echo

    The subject line says something about invaders from something or another..and then It's Jonah at the end.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:20:06 AM CDT

    I think it lists another name on it..

    by jonah echo

    It's a fake BS email as well..not my real identity or anything.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:20:09 AM CDT

    In The Company Of Men

    by series7

    Perfect example of Aarons overuse of Wall Street as a learning tool. Good movie, I really need to see the new (and old) Wicker Man thinking about Company of Men, how do you fall so far?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:22:47 AM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    Yea, the name wasn't my idea. Nor my parents. It was all part of a pseudo writer stunt thing we did awhile ago. Figured it wouldnt hurt to use it now.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:22:55 AM CDT

    JPT

    by series7

    Sunshine probably my favorite film of last year. I fucking loved it, even the third act, thought I feel it looses a lot of the scoop on the small screen. Thank Fox Searchlight for that, because it was more important getting Juno to make money then giving a fuck about Sunshine or Nightwatch.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:25:32 AM CDT

    HOD

    by series7

    Sent you an e-mail, it says its me Series7 in the subject. Also I've seen Kevin Smiths, i guess stand up? movies. He is really funny, I'm about to buy one of his Daredevil comic volumes as well. Need to get The Killing Joke while I'm at it. If your into comics, the comic right now called The Twelve will probably end up being a movie, its pretty cool so far.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:25:41 AM CDT

    oh, I'll approach it open-minded...I love sci-fi

    by just pillow talk

    I'm very forgiving for any missteps a sci-fi movie might have.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:26:03 AM CDT

    Skin and Bones

    by jonah echo

    Moriarty's ep of Fear Itself airs tonight. Thought it would be appropriate to synchronize, as much as is possible, a viewing and commentary on it when it airs,or thereabouts. It will help keep the TB alive and it will give us a goal, and if we can keep civil it will give Mori, hopefully some feedback/encouragement. I read the script and I have faith in the concept and in Fessenden and Doug Jones. Lets do it!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:28:09 AM CDT

    6 Days 7 Nights

    by lost jarv

    the hate comes from David Schwimmer's awful, awful performance. And Anne Heche. Me, I honestly can't remember it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:29:21 AM CDT

    No one should give a fuck about Nightwatch

    by franklin t marmoset

    And with that, I'm off...

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:30:23 AM CDT

    Sunshine

    by lost jarv

    I really, really loved the first 2/3rd's of it. But that last act is simply all over the place. And I was suprised at that performance. It's a good film, and arguably the best attempt at proper sci-fi in ages, but it isn't great. It certainly wasn't my favourite of last year.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:31:07 AM CDT

    Nightwatch is another one that lost it's way

    by lost jarv

    I was totally loving it up to the end.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:31:26 AM CDT

    Read that Skin and Bones script

    by chittychittygangbang

    Thanks for the link Jonah. I enjoyed it and can't wait for the visuals to go along with the script.
    For me any creature movie set out in the isolation of a swamp, mountains, etc is very fun to watch.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:34:01 AM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    Drew and Scott wrote a script for Fear Itself, the NBC aired horror anthology. The script is actually online over at this thread:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37450

    I encourage you to read it Danny. It comes on NBC at 10 p.m. I believe. The details are in there, as is the link to download the script, per Mori's blessing.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:35:49 AM CDT

    Damn, forgot about Schwimmer in that

    by chittychittygangbang

    He had that same mopey, dopey delivery that he had early in Friends. I mean it was the excact same character but different names. Maybe mind just repressed it like a tragic memory. Bleeeeech.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:37:56 AM CDT

    Skin and Bones

    by chittychittygangbang

    I want to watch it just for the scene at the table near the end.
    Eat!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:38:54 AM CDT

    Right, so as many as are here in TB

    by jonah echo

    I was hoping we could make a pass at watching it and offering up thoughts on it. Useful or encouraging stuff, not beratement or cruelly critical stuff with no benefit. Afterall, Mori didn't direct it. Just co-wrote it. Still, I figure we don't often get the chance to support the work of the staff here, so why not?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:41:18 AM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    Fear Itself is basically the MOH for network tv. I think they are following what opportunities they can get. And to be honest, I thought this was by far the best of the three scripts they have written. The real thing here is being able to see the diff between script and actual work.

    I will warn you that Fear Itself has been pretty poor thus far.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:41:35 AM CDT

    DG

    by series7

    Celluar is a good fun movie. The Transporter is barley in it. Its more of a William H. Macy and Chris Evans movie. Its directed by the guy who did Final Destination 2 which is surprisingly good as well, and then Snakes on a Plane which while it didn't suck, it just didn't work. But Cellular is excillent.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:41:54 AM CDT

    I'll be there to watch

    by chittychittygangbang

    It comes on at nine on NBC, so it shouldn't be a problem.
    I tried watching last week's, as it started out creepy, but couldn't finish as it started to lag.
    Switched over to Scare Tactics and forgot about it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:42:40 AM CDT

    Sadly, me and Frank are stuck on some

    by lost jarv

    shitty little Island in the north sea where it's hard to get things like that. Do people really still give a fuck about Star Wars? Lucas lost me when he CGI's that little prick into ROTJ- I fucking loathed the prequels, but it shocked me when I found out he could sink lower than that.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:44:37 AM CDT

    That's cool Danny..give us a proper review..

    by jonah echo

    Also, I posted Roger Ebert's X-Files review above. I know several here don't care for his opinion these days, but opinion aside I think he gives what seems like a good idea of what the movie actually is and what to expect, unlike Latauro's review. Ebert seems to understand what made the show work. At least according to the review. He might also be off his rocker, but he gave it 3 and half stars.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:45:00 AM CDT

    Hmm,

    by lost jarv

    did any of you see that site where some little toerag dissected Mori's X-men ripoff script. Granted, the script wasn't great, but this complete douche wrote in about 5 different characters (you could tell, because they all had different coloured fonts- and no, I'm not joking about that) shredding it. It wasn't the greatest script ever, but it was certainly better than Transformers and AvP- even if Mori did rip off the phrase "Homo Superior".

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:47:02 AM CDT

    Forget the Lucas thing and keep posting..

    by jonah echo

    In an hour or so, it will probably be lagging behind, due to that "top posts in 24 hours. We have far more posts in the last hour or so than they have had, since they were sitting at 276 an hour ago and now are at 290, while we were at 880 an hour or so ago, and now look at us.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:47:29 AM CDT

    Not that I'm badmouthing contributors

    by lost jarv

    but having just slighted Mori's X-Men homage, I'm now going to slag of Latauro- did you fucking see that asinine Dr. Who question that he submitted to the Stallone Q&A? It wasn't just that the question was asinine, it was also appalingly smug, arrogant and cringeworthy. It should never have been submitted.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:48:22 AM CDT

    Yeah, we hold steady at about 200-300 per day.

    by lost jarv

    Which is good going,

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:52:53 AM CDT

    Got your e-mail Series

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I haven't been into comics in 15 years. It was an expensive habit that I had to kick.We're getting owned by a 3-D Star Wars TB?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:53:58 AM CDT

    I've been watching Fear Itself

    by series7

    Its pretty good. Better then last years Masters Of Science Fiction.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:54:12 AM CDT

    who the hell is posting to the SW thread?

    by just pillow talk

    Jarv is right, why bother anymore? Let's regurgitate the same shit again on screen, just 'tweak' it this way or that. Fuck that.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:54:43 AM CDT

    HOD, did you get mine yet?

    by jonah echo

    It was Jonah Ark as the email address.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:55:01 AM CDT

    Latauro did

    by lost jarv

    It was about 3 paragraphs long and written in psuedo ironic wankness. Here it is:3. Mr Stallone,

    For years, I thought you were part of "Sly and the Family Stone" simply because of the syllabic similarities.

    That's not my question.

    There was a rumour going around in the late 90s that noted "director" Paul WS Anderson was going to revive the then-comatose British science fiction show "Doctor Who" as a big budget movie. Back then, nobody knew who WS was, so most of the fans' ire was directed at his rumoured choice for the Doctor: yourself. (This ire was not out of any sort of personal dislike, but more that it was the most bizarrely left-field casting ever. Like if you were write a fifth Rambo film, only you decided to cast Dame Judie Dench or or the skeletal remains of Charlie Chaplin in the title role.)

    I've labored for years under the assumption that my favourite TV show ever almost went down this ill-advised path, only now that I'm actually typing it out, it seems quite ridiculous. Either way, I've been wanting to know for years and years and years, and now I can finally ask: did this almost happen? If so, how far along the process did you get?

    Many thanks, and all the best with the new film. I'm looking forward to it.
    Latauro

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:55:06 AM CDT

    I think I remember something of that post Jarv

    by just pillow talk

    mentioned. I don't exactly recall the content of the post though.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:56:09 AM CDT

    Looking at it again

    by lost jarv

    I think it is the first bit of it that really bugs me.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:57:00 AM CDT

    And

    by lost jarv

    the fact that he answers it himself in the last para.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:57:50 AM CDT

    Masters of Horror

    by lost jarv

    was fucking terrible. I felt really excited about it, and then sat through a couple with my heart sinking.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:57:53 AM CDT

    Series the only good Masters of SciFi `

    by jonah echo

    was the one with John Hurt and Brian Dennehy about the mutants who were displaced from Earth for their disease, and then when Earth needed them, they were welcomed back, sort of.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:02:06 AM CDT

    That TB is funny as hell

    by lost jarv

    I was on good form that day. And how often do you get to bitchslap a moderator?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:02:28 AM CDT

    MOH was majorly disappointing

    by jonah echo

    I think Cigarette Burns was decent, and the On/Off Mountain Road thing was amusing, but every other of the first season was crap. I havent seen all the second season but only The Black Cat really caught my attention. Pro-Life was alright, but not a completely successful story, despite having some real interesting stuff going on under the surface and having Ron Perl"THE" man in it ..

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:04:41 AM CDT

    I'll support anything

    by series7

    The people on this site do. Just to see what they can do. I've been meaning to watch more Masters of Horror, and I keep fergetting to read Harrys Book.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:05:08 AM CDT

    9th Gate

    by lost jarv

    totally underrated. A pleasant suprise

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:05:37 AM CDT

    Latauro seems really

    by jonah echo

    full of himself or something. That X-Files review was only the latest example, and despite what others have said, it wasn't his viewpoint, but how he reached the conclusions and the fact that the review felt worthless to someone who wanted to actually get a sense of the movie and not just hear some treatise on how the secret to a show he barely watched is it's actually CAMP.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:05:53 AM CDT

    He submits articles and things

    by lost jarv

    and is AICN down under.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:06:55 AM CDT

    I liked Cig Burns

    by series7

    Anyone seen Pro-life? Also there was a movie on Harrys DVD called Inside by a former TB, its worth catching, they got it on netflicks. Its not the french movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:07:18 AM CDT

    Wasn't a huge X-Files fan

    by lost jarv

    Toombes or whatever it was called scared the fuck out of me, but I sort of lost interest in it. But I knew it wasn't camp, and that review was insulting to any fan of the series.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:07:46 AM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    He writes for AICN Down-Under and it was his latest X-Files review where he displayed no knowledge of the actual show, and some older Star Trek Insurrection review where he basically called it the perfect Trek movie, or something equally horrifyingly hyperbolic.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:09:46 AM CDT

    Pro Life

    by lost jarv

    was actually one of the better ones. It still wasn't great. BTW- if you haven't, check out Mother of Tears. Hysterical awfulness, gratuitous nekkidness, and a finale that is staggering in how lame it is. I really quite enjoyed it, but wouldn't ever consider it to be quality. And it is creepy Dario Argento directing his naked daughter. And the shower scene was just an excuse to show off Asia's assets.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:10:47 AM CDT

    not that that's a bad thing.

    by lost jarv

    If it weren't for the good Mrs. Jarv she would be in with a chance of shagging me. If she asked nicely.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:10:50 AM CDT

    not that that's a bad thing.

    by lost jarv

    If it weren't for the good Mrs. Jarv she would be in with a chance of shagging me. If she asked nicely.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:10:50 AM CDT

    not that that's a bad thing.

    by lost jarv

    If it weren't for the good Mrs. Jarv she would be in with a chance of shagging me. If she asked nicely.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:11:28 AM CDT

    woah. Triple post

    by lost jarv

    I would say sorry, but we need the numbers.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:11:38 AM CDT

    I thought

    by series7

    Ninth Gate sucked? Not a big fan of Roman. Thought the Penisiest was not that good either.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:12:29 AM CDT

    no-

    by lost jarv

    AICN Down Under pops up with a few reviews and who's shooting what every now and again. I wouldn't get excited.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:13:20 AM CDT

    Did not like the pianist one little bit.

    by lost jarv

    Didn't it win best film? That's worse than crash.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:14:46 AM CDT

    Hysterically, in Mother of Tears

    by lost jarv

    she is meant to be from Boston, and totally fails with the accent/ It's moments like that that remind me why I watch shit like this,

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:14:57 AM CDT

    That Laturo post is insulting

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The skeletal remains of Chaplin?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:17:11 AM CDT

    no

    by lost jarv

    it isn't an insulting post- it's just horribly, horribly smug. Look at that fucking family stone joke. Not only is it unoriginal, but also totally unfunny.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:19:36 AM CDT

    I got your e-mail Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Asia Argento. Now that's someone I can get behind.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:20:33 AM CDT

    POlanski

    by lost jarv

    If you want a director that swaps turkeys about, then he's your man. Shit like cul-de-sac and Repulsion, or even Chinatown, seem like a long fucking time ago.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:23:38 AM CDT

    that Star Wars TB

    by lost jarv

    has some tool called Unknown user literally trying to take George Luca$'s entire length in his mouth without gagging. It's the most sickening piece of sycophancy I've seen in ages.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:24:31 AM CDT

    I'm stil genuinly amazed when people defend the prequels

    by lost jarv

    I just think they're dreadful beyond any defence.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:28:43 AM CDT

    That isn't a great yardstick

    by lost jarv

    really, compare them to the originals- even ROTJ and they're lacking in every department. Someone said that it's because none of it actually takes place in Space so therefore it doesn't feel like Star Wars and I sort of agree.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:29:28 AM CDT

    If I was Sly I would've been insulted

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I agree, casting him as Dr. Who would've been a grievous error, but telling him that it would've been comparable to casting a corpse as Rambo is classless.I guess I'm working through my lunch. Again.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:36:07 AM CDT

    That's no excuse

    by lost jarv

    Kids films can be good in their own right. They shouldn't be excused with "It's only a kids film"- seriously, Iron Giant, Incredibles, Princess Bride and so on are all just great films full stop. And I did see TPM with an 8 year old. She hated it. Apparently trade disputes in the outer rim don't float your boat when your a kid. Who'd a thunk it? In fact, because TPM opens with trade disputes in the outer rim that pretty much holes the great kids film argument.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:38:19 AM CDT

    off home

    by lost jarv

    Have a good one fellas.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:42:44 AM CDT

    I wished he would have done sequels

    by chittychittygangbang

    I mean, when you are trying to set up one of the most beloved sci-fi trilogies in history, of course it will be hard.
    Why not bring in as many of the actors that would get back on board and go from there.
    They could be characters that help a new generation of Rebels, Jedi etc.
    I didn't hate the prequels, but wasn't blown away either. The trailers were at least very well done, as I looked forward to when they released them.
    Williams score and any clips from any movie could be a decent trailer.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:47:30 AM CDT

    I agree with Danny

    by jonah echo

    the prequels arent that bad, and I even LOVE Revenge of the Sith. But, there is no denying that if Lucas had found the right people and relinquished some control for more collaboration, he could have created prequels that expanded, broadened and even made better the original films, since as a trilogy, they aren't perfect either. That's what I expected. I was hoping Phantom Menace to be a huge leap forward, to correct the small issues of the first trilogy and create a more comprehensive fantasy. Clearly, my expectations were way way off.

    What Lucas created isnt exactly art, at least not at first, and it isn't horrible either, even at the TPM level. But our geek minds won't let us accept a marginal star wars film. It either blew or it ruled. As is, Id put at least one of the prequels in the Ruled category.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:48:50 AM CDT

    So I wanted to watch a movie last night

    by hawaiian organ donor

    And my daughter wouldn't leave my side so the wife tells me I need to watch something kid friendly. She kept turning off my choices until I got to The Gameplan.Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezus.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 12:05:18 PM CDT

    "Robots are the best."

    by jonah echo

    Danny, that footage was awesome. I had high hopes for WTWA but now, I don't know what to expect.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 12:07:55 PM CDT

    Practical effects are dead

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Sad to say.I'm going to stretch my legs. This TB is on life control.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 12:10:30 PM CDT

    Not the same as primer

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But if you're not a perfectionist then it won't matter.I managed a paint store in college for a year oddly enough.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 12:49:45 PM CDT

    At least we're back up to #1

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Don't know how long it will last.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:07:17 PM CDT

    From what I remember about painting...

    by chittychittygangbang

    We moved into a new house and had to paint over some wallpaper that would NOT come off. It must have been put on with liquid cement.
    I would find a test area that you can cover up. It may takes a few layers of regular white paint to equal the primer.
    It will just be a matter of how well the outside color adheres to the white paint. I think it may have a different texture and not be as bright as white paint, so the white paint may show through a little more and dilute the outside color.
    Just test a small portion first. Better safe than sorry.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:08:43 PM CDT

    I'm back from lunch so I can

    by chittychittygangbang

    Post and post and post.
    I just have to work a little every now and again.
    Got to love the furniture industry.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:10:33 PM CDT

    Also going to hit three flicks

    by chittychittygangbang

    this weekend.
    HB2 followed by The Dark Knight then what ever else wife wants to see.
    Probably Momma Mia...sigh.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:12:57 PM CDT

    Also about painting

    by chittychittygangbang

    I would rather repaint the halls of the Vatican than install that damn blue border tape. Shit I hate that. Wife wants be to apply it because I'm tall.
    I countered with the fact that they make ladders.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:16:38 PM CDT

    Enjoy Pierce Brosnan howling like injured dog

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I still find the whole concept/following behind Momma Mia fascinating.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:18:42 PM CDT

    Also Jaws the Revenge was on at lunch

    by chittychittygangbang

    Jaws is my alltime favorite movie.
    When I saw Jaws the Revenge at the theater I nearly wept as my soul was crushed by what was unfolding before my eyes.
    My buddy threw a pickle at the screen and got thrown out.
    Joseph Sargent might as well walked up in front of our crowd unzipped his pants and shit all over a film reel of the first.
    You want to talk about the almighty buck coming before the integrity of a movie. FUCK!!!!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:36:38 PM CDT

    Then you understand my hatred

    by chittychittygangbang

    For Jaws the Revenge.
    Think of the one movie that you hate the most. Now really get to thinking about it and even madder.
    After about three hours of this you would start to realize my seething hatred of what that movie does to me.
    Did you know that Michael Caine couldn't be there to accept his Oscar because of this cinematic abortion?
    Dear God this movie destroys souls.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:39:03 PM CDT

    Danny, I would walk to LA from Mississippi

    by chittychittygangbang

    and paint your house (inside and out) with a q-tip if it meant Jaws the Revenge could have been just a stupid idea that never happened.
    I need to stop before I get really pissed.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:48:00 PM CDT

    The Michael Caine qoute..

    by jonah echo

    One of Sir Mike's better moments was NOT Jaws 4 (it is every bit as vile as Chitty says it is and as terrible and franchise mauling as Danny thinks Indy 4 is), but it was that famous qoute atrributed to him:

    Someone asked if he had seen Jaws 4.

    No. I don't plan to. But I saw the house it helped build, and it is beautiful.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:50:27 PM CDT

    X-Files..

    by jonah echo

    I know, I'm basically obsessed with this movie, but it's the one above all others this summer I want to see work. In fact if it sucks, Ill probably be echoing Danny's Indy 4 sentiments, but replace that title with X-Files 2.

    Anyway, here is a cheering qoute from Richard Corliss' NEGATIVE review. Seriously, this sounds good to me:

    "Today's target demographic was barely sentient when the show was in its mid-'90s prime. The kids want thrills, and I Want to Believe offers some good ones, though of an old-fashioned variety. The chases aren't Batmobile-vs.-Joker-truck, they either involve a snowplow or are on foot. And the shock scenes are closer to the murky threat of Val Lewton's '40s horror movies than to the slice-and-dice explicitness of the Saw and Hostel slasher series. Early on, a young woman takes a dip in a public pool, then gets out. Submerged in the pool is a man with a predatory smile. As the camera moves in on him, an air bubble escapes. Nice frisson. And there's one shot that sent people at a critics' screening out of their seats. We'll just say it's a tribute to that old Z-movie classic The Brain That Wouldn't Die."

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:50:32 PM CDT

    What about Ellen Brody's hair?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Could there not have been a more dated haircut? Oh I'm sure it was in style at the time, but damn.
    Hogie was the coolest part of that movie. But I did not want him touching Chief Brody's wife!
    Greatest Police Chief in the history of cinema has his wife rubbed on by a pilot/island playboy.
    The biggest stretch was Mario Van Pebbles playing a scientist. Sort like Denise Richards playing a nuclear scientist in that Bond movie.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:53:59 PM CDT

    Maybe I'll see X-Files while...

    by chittychittygangbang

    wife sees Momma Mia. If it has the old school thrills and a decent plot, then yes.
    It HAS to be better than Momma Mia though.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:54:57 PM CDT

    that sounds appealing to me too Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    I like the fact that there appears to be little to no CGI in the film.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:55:40 PM CDT

    my wife wants to see Mamma Mia...

    by just pillow talk

    So far we haven't. So far.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:56:38 PM CDT

    Don't you mean Mario "Posse" Van Peebles?

    by just pillow talk

    Wasn't Stephen Baldwin in that one?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 1:58:39 PM CDT

    Jaws 3D

    by chittychittygangbang

    My favorite part of that movie is that smug big game hunter getting partially devoured. I clapped.
    I actually saw it the theater with the 3D glasses, so it was at least a little fun. I think that was my first 3D movie so I can't put it in last place.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:07:32 PM CDT

    Such a shame we never got MEG

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 24, 2008 2:14:26 PM CDT

    As much as I hate 4

    by chittychittygangbang

    Ok, I admit I have watched it a couple of times just because it is a creature feature and it has Sir Michael in it.
    But I also watch to point out more and more flaws and chuckle here and there. Although my hatred of it borders on illegal, I watch it like a train wreck. A terrible event that you can't take your eyes off of.
    I just hate how they kept milking the franchise for more money and let the quality go to shit.
    I own 1 and 2 on dvd and will put the first on my ipod when they release it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:16:14 PM CDT

    Jonah, you can blame Emmerich for no Meg

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Godzilla bombed, Meg was put on the back burner.
    Renny Harlin and believe it or not Mel Gibson was rumored to be invloved with the project with a big budget.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:18:18 PM CDT

    Danny if you love killer shark movies

    by chittychittygangbang

    Have you seen Red Water?
    It has master thespian Lou Diamond Phillips, Kristy Swanson and......Coolio! It also has Mr. Belding from Saved by the Bell.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:32:33 PM CDT

    Deep Blue Sea

    by jonah echo

    is the closest we will come to ever having a post Jaws shark horror film, I sadly fear.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:33:06 PM CDT

    that should have said a GOOD shark film..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 24, 2008 2:37:37 PM CDT

    What the heck is MEG?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That Bats TB is officially insane. I haven't seen a TB with that much hatred in a while.Grabbed myself a Klondike bar and I feel much better. They need a new marketing campaign. "Whenever you're sitting at your desk at your dead end job looking at pictures of your wife and child thinking you've let them down because you're sucha colossal failure and are considering walking up to the roof and throwing yourself over the edge, grab a Klondike bar."

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:42:05 PM CDT

    Meg is...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Carcharadon megaledon. A shark from the dinosaur age that was between 60-150 feet depending on what year you watch shark week. Meg was a book by Steve Alten that put one of these in modern times tearing shit up. He also had follow-up books as well. They are literary cheese and quite fun to blow throw.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 2:47:45 PM CDT

    if it's set to the right jingle...I'm sure they can work

    by just pillow talk

    it into a commercial Hawaiian.I'm sure if you stabbed a bunch of people in the mouth with a #2 pencil it'll make you feel better too.Though that would be a tougher sell for a commercial I think.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:03:15 PM CDT

    I'd hate to learn Bale is a dick

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm one of these people that has a hard time separating artist from real life personality. Which is why I tossed all my Metallica CDs in the trash and stopped listening to Dennis Miller.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:06:07 PM CDT

    HOD, why so serious?

    by jonah echo

    Glad you didn't throw yourself off the roof, for the record.

    Alten also wrote a book called The Loch, postulating a scientific sort of explanation for the Loch Ness Monster that involved great beasties, the Knights Templar and plenty drunken scottsmen. It was alot of fun, and has been optioned for a movie a few times.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:07:02 PM CDT

    Didn't they make a MEG type movie?

    by xiphos_2

    Starring Antonio Sabato Jr as a Shark Proffesor who's family was, I shit you not, killed by a MEG, although he didn't know this at the beginning of the movie. Sabato has to figure out what destroyed an underwater research facility also. The special effect of the shark looks like sombbody bought a rubber shark from a .99 cent store and then put it in a motion capture suit and swam it around a bowl of water.Does anybody remeber this shitty movie? Or have all my head wounds caught up with me?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:09:29 PM CDT

    Hey, it might be that Bale

    by jonah echo

    is just now realizing the fiasco he is in with Terminator 4. The part left out of that probably deals with the part where McG told the cinematographer to just tie the camera on a string and turn it on, to get a "grittier, more dynamic" feel. Camera hit Bale in face, Bale pissed. End of story.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:13:10 PM CDT

    Here's the title

    by xiphos_2

    Its Shark Hunnter here's the link to IMBD tinyurl.com/6jb5q7

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:15:03 PM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    Also, Quint covered it a few weeks ago in Movie A Day(not Invaders from Mars, but Strange Invaders-the other movie on the disk).


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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:18:02 PM CDT

    I see Danny Knew about Shark Hunter

    by xiphos_2

    Sorry to be redundant its my lot in life.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:20:23 PM CDT

    Yep Xi it was called Megaladon

    by chittychittygangbang

    I'm pretty that was it. I saw it on sci-fi channel I think.
    It seemed very similar to the second MEG book called The Trench.
    VERY similar. I wonder if they struck a deal or something because there is no way they could have done it that close to his book and not have gotten sued.
    Yeah, the effect were terrible. They even had all these sequels with one having a scene of a great white and they photoshopped a guy on a jet ski going into his mouth.
    Terrible, when all they had to do was put a bunch of nudity and not take themselves so seriously. They could have doubled their profit.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:23:17 PM CDT

    I'm going to turn this back to the X Files for a moment

    by xiphos_2

    I brought the first four seasons of the TV show with me and I just finished season 2 and I have to say, The X files is no where near as good as I remember it being. The individual episodes I liked held up reasonably well its just that over all, it lacks in many areas. I'm sort of bummed about this.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:30:39 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The wife and I had an agreement many years ago that I would be allowed to work at dead end jobs that required zero output from me so that I could basically get paid to write my scripts. The problem is, dead end jobs (even in human resources) don't pay well. So she's put her foot down and told me this is the last year I have to try to sell something. So i'm depressed as hell knowing that I have 5 months left before I need to get a serious job where I'll actually have to bust my nuts all day. I really thought I was going to make it by now. Oh well.This thing with Bale is why I've always liked Clooney and McCanaughy. They come across as decent, good natured guys in real life who treat everyone on the set with respect.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:32:24 PM CDT

    Xiphos..Keep going..it gets better..

    by jonah echo

    I came to the X-Files late, but while it was still on the air. I remembered it first airing, but then preferred watching Brisco County JR. The year after I graduated high school, and found there was a gap on Sunday night no longer filled by my intense panic to finish procrastinated homework(in college I found more motivation and never had anything sitting around by that point)I started watching X-Files with my family. It was on season 5 by that time, and I loved it. As I have now gone through the first six seasons with my wife, I've found that season 5 is pretty much the best. But it does start picking up with season 3. Though there are some classics in Season 2. Which one had The Calusari, with the little boy posessed? That rocked.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:34:48 PM CDT

    Where do you guys find the time

    by hawaiian organ donor

    To watch that much B-movie schlock?If it exists, someone here has seen it. I'm not worthy to post on these threads.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:48:40 PM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'll send you to the latest as soon as I finish tweaking it if you want. The contest folks came back with a few areas that needed work so I'm addressing them as best I can and then resubmitting.Enjoy the movie tonight, buddy. I'm just about to head out. I'll try to keep this thread on top from home but between cooking dinner, an hour on the bike and reading "There's A Wocket in My Pocket" for the 100th time to my daughter, not sure if I'll get the chance.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:50:55 PM CDT

    Congo

    by mr. zeddemore

    Is the best bad film ever.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:53:11 PM CDT

    they to need to have a thread with just you guys...

    by thekylegassproject

    ...some funny shit.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:54:42 PM CDT

    The Stand

    by mr. zeddemore

    Fucking class book. Currently reading it, and looking to write a mini-series version as a bit of writing practice.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:55:05 PM CDT

    Holy Shit! Holy Shit! Calling DGDB!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Attention! Attention!
    Some blessed sould has put Rawhead Rex on Youtube. THE WHOLE MOVIE!
    Danny here is your chance!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:55:24 PM CDT

    X Files seasons 4 and 5

    by xiphos_2

    Agreed, they are the best they had episodes like Home, The Field Where I died, Musing of a Cigarrette Smoking Man, Unusual Suspects, Post Modern Prometheus and others I'm forgetting. Season three had my two favorite episodes Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose and the the incredible Jose Chung's From Outer Space. It had Jessie "The Body" Ventura and Alex Trebek as Men In Black. Pure genius right there. It's pretty clear I'm a stand alone guy as oppossed to the mythology arc person.Jonah Echo I loved Brisco County Jr, that show was all sorts of goofy fun.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 3:57:49 PM CDT

    thekylegassproject

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You got that right. AICN should devote a weekly thread just to us. Throw out a topic and let us have at it. I've yet to see a more informed and hilarious group on any movie site.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:03:48 PM CDT

    HOD

    by mr. zeddemore

    A weekly thread, hmmmmm?!?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:20:29 PM CDT

    FEAR ITSELF...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... we got bumped a week. It's for a good reason (so we can be the last episode before the Olympic hiatus), but it's a bummer. So it's the 31st now, and not tonight.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:21:55 PM CDT

    Chocolate Reign...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... you're an ignorant douche. My point was never that ANYONE has to like Diablo Cody or her work. My point was that there is a way to discuss someone's work, pro or con, that doesn't depend on slamming them for their gender, and that fanboys tend to rush right to the "fuck that bitch" instead of discussing the work itself. You don't like her work? Well, here's a quarter. Call someone who gives a fuck.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:26:35 PM CDT

    Fear Itself bumped

    by chittychittygangbang

    FUCK! I read the script and wanted to see the complete package while it was fresh in my mind.
    One good thing is they like to start a hiatus with a good episode so take it as a compliment Moriarty.
    I will watch Rawhead Rex and drink Guiness instead.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:32:19 PM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by dr.lizardo

    If you don't mind, what contest did you enter your screenplay where they gave you feedback.
    I have something i have been working on and would LOVE to find a good contest to enter it in. I know I won't win, but if they would give me feedback it would be worth it. Thanks Man!

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:57:24 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    So my idea for a post-apocalyptic, kung fu, dragon movie with cool muscle cars and midgets rom-com has a chance to win this script writing contest? Damn it, I wish I wasn't illititerate and lazy I would toatally write it.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 4:58:02 PM CDT

    Danny Glover's

    by dr.lizardo

    Thanks for the advice on Withoutabox. I was just checking it out. Looks like a great resource. Now if I can just buckle down and finish the damn thing.......

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:27:09 PM CDT

    Dr.Lizardo

    by hawaiian organ donor

    DAMN YOU, DANNY!!! You beat me to it. Withoutabox is the premiere site for finding contests. Depending on what it is you're writing, do a search and see what contests are geared toward you.The only problem is that 99% of the contests are annual. But Script Savvy runs a monthly contest and for an extra $50 you can get them to critique it and give you some awesome feedback.That sucks about Fear Itself being pushed back. I was really looking forward to watching that episode tonight.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:29:42 PM CDT

    And yes, this zany, out of their minds group needs a thread

    by hawaiian organ donor

    We'll bring balance and tranquility to AICN TB's.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:36:22 PM CDT

    I'm trying to attempt to write a

    by series7

    book right now. Its hard, seeing that I really got no training outside of reading books. I've got what I think is a good idea, but yeah got no idea how to make it. I just want something fun to do.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 5:50:07 PM CDT

    Thats pretty cool

    by series7

    That TheRealMoriarty posted, big brother usually doesn't post this late in the thread. I'm watching Americas got Talent, and I don't know why...its like I can't stop. At least I make sure there is room enough to record Fear Itself in HD, its the only show I make sure that it happens for.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:03:35 PM CDT

    I wish the AICN guys would post throughout

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Let us know they're paying attention to what the lunatics are saying.Series, I spent 10 YEARS trying to write a novel. It consumed me. I re-wrote chapters constantly. Finally about 5 years ago I decided that maybe a screenplay was more to my ability. Turns out I was right as I churned a few out but only the most recent one is worth a piss.I'm curious to know how Drew got the NBC gig. I think it's pretty sweet being able to write for both the big and small screen. Hats off to him.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:30:00 PM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by dr.lizardo

    Thanks for the info on script savvy, I'll check that out.
    I'm sure all you guys who are writers on here have more good ideas than the junk hollywood keeps pumping out.
    Just gotta get someone to listen.


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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:53:56 PM CDT

    Dr.Lizardo

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You know, I've read a lot of scripts from people who want to break into the biz and a lot of those scripts are pure shit. The problem is, they stick with that one script and when they get rejected go back back and polish it but as the saying goes, you can't polish a turd.I saw that my first couple of scripts were amateurish and spotty and had the clairvoyance to write new ones. And I think I finally got one that works.Two things they say to becoming a successful script writer: 1) read lots of scripts (which I do) and 2) write lots of scripts. The rule of thumb is that by the 8th and 9th script, you've got something worth buying.Unfortunately not everyone has 8 or 9 ideas in them. Guys like Moriarty are a rare breed.I wish you lots of luck. Also, check out Zhura. You can read scripts and post yours. And it does all the formatting for you. Most importantly, it shows you how bad the competition is so it gives you confidence.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 6:56:37 PM CDT

    Good job, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You are one crass muthafucker but you laid into USC something fierce. You and me are cut from the same cloth, brother. Angry to a fault.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 7:04:46 PM CDT

    this movie looks good

    by chipps

    but i still say beowulf predates the early 700s.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:43:53 PM CDT

    Uhhh...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... you continue to prove that you are an ignorant douche who can't read. I know there is a percentage of fandom that's racist and hates women, but now I'm learning that even though they're on computers, some of them are unable to parse the meaning of even the simplest of sentences. "If you don't like her work, have the conversation without referring to her gender." Whoever did exactly that wins a big fat cookie. My point was that you don't have to haul out dumb shit about "the stripper pole" to dislike her writing. And there's nothing "self-loathing" about the fact that my 12 years of doing this has taught me to despise the racist, misogynist scumbags who ruin fandom for everyone else. I don't give a shit about them "paying my salary." I will continue to call them out for what they are, and if that twists your panties, here's another one of those quarters for you. Feel free to keep searching for someone who cares.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 8:45:39 PM CDT

    HOD...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I got the FEAR ITSELF gig because it was the same producers as MASTERS, and whether someone hated or loved the episodes I wrote, my partner and I created two of the best-selling titles in the series and we are able to write for a specific budget and schedule. So they asked us back.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:01:02 PM CDT

    Well done Mori

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You're living the dream, man. Keep representing those of us who try and fail or don't try at all.This group of nutbags will be back after your episode airs next week to dissect the living crap out of it so please drop in to respond to our verbal flatulence.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:05:04 PM CDT

    Hearing Mori use stuff like "ignorant douche"

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Makes you wonder if he's influenced by all the colorful metaphors us geeks fling around during the course of the day or if he's had the "darkness" in him all along.Good god I'm sad posting on here when everyone else is off to bed or watching TV with their wife.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 9:18:18 PM CDT

    "Hayden Panettiere's reforming hymen on Heroes"

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is that going to be in Season 3? I just may have to get a DVR then.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:12:45 PM CDT

    Moriarty

    by chittychittygangbang

    I'm saving my last drink of Blantons for Skin and Bones.
    So I just got to drink beer tonight.
    Cheers!
    Is anyone still here?

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:40:20 PM CDT

    ChocolateReign

    by xiphos_2

    My Man, we get it, you don't like Drew or maybe more accurately the way he presents things, we get it really we do, but give it up already.You're dangerously close to sounding like creepy scent stalker Branerobot. You've made your point move on.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 10:53:33 PM CDT

    TomBodet My apologies

    by xiphos_2

    As I was making up that screen play idea on the fly while typing I forgot about the giant robot lions and how they make everything better. I'm sorry for that, its the head wounds and all.Here's how I'll make up for that oversight. When I sucessfully pimp my idea I will cast Jeff Fahey, Michael Biehn and the great Tim Thomerson in it and I'll get an extended cameo for the Penguin as himself, running the bases. Its very David Lynchian in scope.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:08:32 PM CDT

    Xiphos

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I appreciate you giving Jeff Fahey work. I've loved seeing him on Lost this season. Don't know why it took him so long to have a comeback.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:20:40 PM CDT

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    If anybody would cast The Lawn Mowerman, Kyle Reese and Trooper Jack Deth in the same movie and also figure out a way to get Fred Ward in it, That would be the greatest B movie ever. In fact it cause a rip in the space time continum and cause all matter to revert to a subatomic state. It would be that powerful.

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  • Jul 24, 2008 11:41:00 PM CDT

    HOD pt2

    by xiphos_2

    I also liked seeing The Lawn Mowerman on Lost this year. Frank Lapidus was an intersting character. Also, him and Kyle Reese helped to make Planet Terror the better of the two parts of Grind House in my opinion. Then again I'm a sucker for zombie stuff.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:12:12 AM CDT

    you guys are fucking awesome

    by the milf lover

    I cant believe I've been reading this talkback for the past couple hours! What A goddamn loser I am haha... I wish I could sit at a table having a drink (even tho I dont even drink) with Danny, Hawaiian and the rest of you talking about all these shitty-ass-cool movies for a few hours... I'm usually the one who knows his pop culture stuff in my social circle, but you guys have me beat by a long shot! Its so much fum reading this!

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:18:19 AM CDT

    Fuck

    by series7

    I was busy sitting on the couch letting my roommate use the computer and missed out on all the fun. Fucking balls, why do I love reality TV so much? I'm pretty sure its made me dumber.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:48:30 AM CDT

    Writing

    by mr. zeddemore

    I've been writing virtual series (unproduced teleplays that form part of an ongoing series via the web, but only in script form) since 2004. I've written a good fifty since that time.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:54:45 AM CDT

    Its late and I'm about to go to bed

    by series7

    But I found this on google's red headed step child, yahoo. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
    Indiana Jones has survived a lot of improbable adventures, be it fleeing ancient spherical boulders or fighting off cult members while dangling off a rope bridge. But few scrapes have tested the bounds of believability more than Indy's escape from a nuclear bomb blast thanks to a lead-lined fridge. The problem is that, even if he didn't get flattened, horribly burned or suffocated (kids, don't hide in refrigerators), Indy almost certainly would have gotten a lethal dose of radiation from the fallout. And that's a lot scarier than snakes. So I guess word is spreading.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:00:16 AM CDT

    Series7

    by mr. zeddemore

    If they shot that scene with a stunt man inside the fridge, would you be so angry with it? I get the sense it's that it doesn't seem 'real' enough in execution.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:54:11 AM CDT

    Xiphos_2

    by spud mcspud

    Agreed with the Biehn/Fahey combo on PLANET TERROR - those guys were the heart of that movie. Loved the whole "perfect Texas BBQ sauce" thing with Fahey, and the final scene with those two was the only emotional bit of the whole movie. I could not give less of a shit for anyone else in that movie, but Fahey and Biehn I really rooted for.

    DEATH PROOF is marginally better, only because it introduced me to the glorious Vanessa Ferlito - the Latino Megan Fox! And if Tony Scoot ever gets his old grizzled ass to make THE WARRIORS remake, we know who he should call for Swan's girlfriend...

    Yep, DEATH PROOF won out over the Vanessa Ferlito lapdance moment. I'm amazed Kurt Russell didn't just pop an aorta and die a happy old man right there.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:22:59 AM CDT

    Spud

    by mr. zeddemore

    Aye. Fahey was sensational in that flick. The guy's got phenomenal timing in drama and comedy.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:51:11 AM CDT

    Spud McSpud

    by xiphos_2

    I go back and forth on which part of Grindhouse I enjoyed more. I liked Kurt Russell until QT sold the character out in the end and anything to do with cars and lap dances.Downside, anybody speaking not named Stuntman Mike or Zoe Bell. Plus QT never got anybody naked! Neither did Rodriquiz, which was an unforgivable sin in my book. There was a shit load of talent in both movies and too much clothing.Now, Planet Terror had Zombies, joyfull stupidity and the EL Wrey character plus the aformentioned BBQ brothers and Hudson Hawk. Your right the Best part was the scene between the BBQ brothers before they blew themselves up. The receipe discussion while dying was hilarious.Isn't Vanessa Ferlito Eye-Talian? and not Latina? I thought I read that somewhere but like most things I could be wrong. Also, like I told Danny above, let the _2 part of my name go. Drop the duce Spud, drop it like its hot.I fervently hope they never remake The Warriors. That flick is a movie of its time and place and any update would suck balls. Plus The Warriors is a personal favorite and I'll be pissed if they break it off in the orignal movies ass with a poor remake. Can you dig it brother?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:07:16 AM CDT

    DGB...X-Files review?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 25, 2008 7:46:20 AM CDT

    When I saw Fahey in Planet Terror

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It took me a good five minutes to figure out it was him. And the scene with him and Biehn on the floor at the end was one of the best moments in cinema last year. People should give the movie a pass for that scene alone.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:48:10 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    On the drive in I heard the local radio movie review guy give the X-Files four Budweisers (a six-pack is his highest rating). And he's a country bumpkin so that's a good sign.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:59:05 AM CDT

    I preferred Planet Terror

    by franklin t marmoset

    Who knows which is the better film, but Planet Terror seemed to embrace the concept of paying homage to cheesy exploitations films better that Death Proof and was of an enjoyable, goofy ride.Death Proof does has its moments, but as a die hard Kurt Russell fan, I wanted to see a little more of his character, especially in the second half.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:00:53 AM CDT

    That's 'more of' - more of an enjoyable, etc.

    by franklin t marmoset

    Fucking mobile phone bat sonar typo detector is on the fritz again today.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:14:43 AM CDT

    Yea, it's got like a 29% fresh..but every review

    by jonah echo

    says it's just a long-ish episode. Is that such a bad thing? I'm not trying to apologize if the movie is bad, but honestly, it's been so long that a good story that utilizes Mulder and Scully is enough. It's funny cause now everyone is saying, I wanted a big budget X-Files like the first movie, but back when the first movie was out, I was one of the few I knew who thought it was really good. What gives?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:43:07 AM CDT

    Mori

    by lost jarv

    Can I have the cookie. I didn't like the dialogue and have never once referred to the author's gender in a perjorative manner. I even managed to construct this post without making reference to a male/female pronoun

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:43:54 AM CDT

    glad to see this thread still number one

    by lost jarv

    I'm off home in a minute. Had enough of this place today.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:44:46 AM CDT

    Death Proof

    by lost jarv

    just dreadful. Sorry, I do not want to see an emasculated Kurt, and 8 women talking Tarantinoese just wound me up

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:46:39 AM CDT

    Better be careful with this subject line

    by lost jarv

    "I've never met a woman that describes herself as a petrolhead". If that doesn't fit then It's going to look like I posted "I've never met a woman". And despite posting on AICN, I have.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:51:04 AM CDT

    AvP at Comic Con

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So there's a pic online of an Alien and Predator with "2009" at the top. Is this for a third movie or a video game? Anyone know?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 8:57:44 AM CDT

    You're all right on DEATH PROOF...

    by spud mcspud

    I think as a movie ofr sheer entertainment, PLANET TERROR is definitely the better of the two, but I'm kind of fixated by Vanessa Ferlito. I had to wtahc DEATH PROOF three times to even realise there WAS a Stuntman Mike. Same goes for TRANSFORMERS - three watches before I noticed the big-ass fighting robots - I just couldn't get off that image of Megan Fox bending under the hood of the Camaro. Sweet jumping Lord Jesus Christ on a bike. That woman is sexual perfection right there.

    But yeah, the Biehn/Fahey scene = genius. Absolutely.

    Xiphos - Come out to PLAY-YAY!!! I freaked when I realised that was also Tommy from DREAMSCAPE. He's ALWAYS the bad guy! COMMANDO, THE CROW... You name it, he's the villain.

    And you're right Xiphos - a remake would suck big Coney Island balls. But if you HAD to make it... Ferlito for Swan's chick! Though I think Eminem's "Fight Music" video deserves an honourable mention...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:06:27 AM CDT

    Sunshine...

    by just pillow talk

    Short version: I liked it.Longer version: I definitely liked the first 2/3 to 3/4 of the movie, until crazy-burnt-up-blurry-captain-dude-from-other-ship showed up. Now, I originally thought that this was them going insane, not that crazy-burnt-up-blurry-captain-dude-from-other-ship was really there. Because if crazy-burnt-up-blurry-captain-dude-from-other-ship was really there, well, that's just off from left field. But then of course it was really him since he could have just walked across the hatch and then fucked it up while he was on ship #2. I do realize why he was all blurry version, seeing as how he thought himself a God, but it did jolt me out of the movie, and not in a good way. After thinking about that last act, I still like the movie. Though if blurry captain survived that long, one would think he wouldn't have moved that well unless he kept in some sort of shape. I mean picking up Murphy with one hand? I guess the sun makes him muy strong-o.Murphy was as good as normal, Chris Evans can indeed act, and DH4 dude can actually act too. Always nice to look at Michelle Yeoh too.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:16:13 AM CDT

    Sunshine is a heartbreaker

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It came oh so very close to greatness. The scene with Murphy and the captain on the reflective dome was perfection. Without blurry burnt up guy I probably would have watched it twice in one day and several times since it came out.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:16:30 AM CDT

    let's hope there's no AvP 3

    by just pillow talk

    but I'm sure they'll make yet another one. Those funds should be re-directed to GOOD sci-fi projects.Fuckers.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:18:13 AM CDT

    I'm not sure why he felt the need to insert blurry

    by just pillow talk

    full of rage guy. Clearly there was enough drama without blurry pissed off against the world guy.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:18:45 AM CDT

    JPT

    by jonah echo

    Yeah, as has always been said on here, Sunshine goes wierd places third act. Kills it for some, merely marrs it for others. My wife summed it up by saying "For a while it was 2001 and then suddenly it was Hellraiser.
    As it happens, I think Captain Crispy also sort of muddles the movie's point. It brings in a supernatural element, that also seems to be relaying zealotry and yet also possibly introducing something spiritual to a movie that has been pretty(and ultimatley remains)humanist.

    I'm not surprised to find that Boyle and Garland disagree. Garland found it a very atheistic film, and Boyle thought it was reflective of God. Go figure, but it needed a diff ending. Capn' Crisp just don't fit there.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:20:09 AM CDT

    on sci-fi last night at 11pm was Alien Apocalypse

    by just pillow talk

    starring the one and only Bruce Campbell. I watched about ten minutes before watching one of his fellow astronauts shot dead.Premise: astronauts return to Earth like 50 years later to find that the world as they know it has been destroyed by giant bugs.I cannot verify if this steaming turd holds any promise or not.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:21:57 AM CDT

    JPT

    by jonah echo

    It does not. No campy value. No nothing. Such an opportunity to do some campy goodness, but it's just WORTHLESS. It tries to be a serious film, and is basically Battlefield Earth without the rampant comedy.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:23:35 AM CDT

    just a weird, weird turn...

    by just pillow talk

    and I'll stress again, I still enjoyed the movie, but less so. The direction the movie was headed was still suspenseful, and I would argue it became less so with grilled dude. The "what" of what they were up against suddenly was clearly defined: well-done dude. Before it was time and human error and judgment, etc. I much preferred it that way.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:24:38 AM CDT

    that's sad Jonah

    by just pillow talk

    I was initially so excited when I clicked the "info" button on my remote and found out the plot and Bruce...how do you fuck that up?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:25:40 AM CDT

    JPT

    by jonah echo

    And when he was like "Are you an angel?" I almost burst out laughing, mostly because anyone saying that to Cillian Murphy is ridiculous. Though I could see Murphy playing a good androgynous archangel or something.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:27:27 AM CDT

    Wait a minute!

    by kbass

    "Speed Racer?" The clown writing this "open letter" liked "Speed Racer?" Wow. I guess that's a case of him being right and everyone else being wrong. "Speed Racer" felt like a movie they purposely made to be bad. Great call on that one. Makes me look at this "letter" in an entirely different light.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:29:53 AM CDT

    yeah..that was rather silly..but I figured you're

    by just pillow talk

    likely to say some silly things when you've been in space for a long time and your mission is to send a bomb into the heart of the sun.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:30:51 AM CDT

    Someone just told me

    by series7

    That Quintin Tarintino is in a Miick movie? Like a samuri western? Anyone know about this? As for Grindhouse, you had to see it in a movie theater, and I got the benefit of seeing it in a shitty theater, there was no one there besides me and my buddy I convinced to see it. He loved it, so did I. But QT giving up on the whole 70's worn look half way through was a let down.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:34:32 AM CDT

    I can't wait to see Speed Racer, Iron Man,

    by hawaiian organ donor

    TDK, Wall-E, Wanted, The Incredible Hulk, Hancock and Hellboy 2 in the fall just so I can finally chime in with an opinion.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:34:35 AM CDT

    On second thought...

    by kbass

    My previous comment may come off as "mean-spirited." I retract it.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:40:44 AM CDT

    Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    If it makes you feel better, I haven't seen Speed Racer, Wall-E, Wanted, Incredible Hulk, or Hancock. I might as well add X-files 2 to that list.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 9:59:44 AM CDT

    Series..the movie you refer to is

    by jonah echo

    Sukiyaki Western Django, and I found it completely mystifying. It does have Tarantino mugging for all he is worth in front of a western skyline that looks like it was literally painted for a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon. Save for Tarantino, who is trying his best to sound broken-english Japanese, all of the actors are japanese and yet they speak in english, so you can barely ever tell what they are saying, as clearly english is not their native language. The "story" is myriads of convoluted even for Miike. If you just like watching crazy stuff slung at the screen, watch Happiness of the Katakuris. This, I found almost no redeeming merit in. And I wasn't expecting much. And Tarantino doesn't do much in it. The movie just throws stuff out there, the more obscure and off the wall, the better. I think they might have been attempting Jodorowsky, but the two are about as similar as The Godfather is to Muppet Babies.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:07:06 AM CDT

    JPT

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I feel like a complete schmuck calling myself a movie nerd when I don't go out to the theater anymore. With a daughter and no one to babysit, my wife and I are stuck watching everything at home. But with a 12 foot screen, that ain't so bad. Come the fall, you and I will have a lot to discuss.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:08:42 AM CDT

    crazy-burnt-up-blurry-captain-dude

    by hobocode

    I didn't mind it. What was wrong with it?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:09:43 AM CDT

    So movie fans, I need some help..

    by jonah echo

    Deep Discount is selling criterion collections, buy one get one free, and I'm having a hard time figuring out which two.

    Currently my mind turns towards Thief of Bagdad and Tarkovsky's Solaris. Though, Days of Heaven, Ran and Army of Shadows are also choices. Any clarity here? I've seen them all, but it's been awhile for almost all of them.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:13:46 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hobocode

    I don't know what you own already but I would go with M and Days of Heaven myself.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:18:34 AM CDT

    Hawaiian...I'm in the same boat

    by just pillow talk

    The only reason I saw what I did was half day summer hours = matinee.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:19:36 AM CDT

    Hobo, I think it was just too little too late..

    by jonah echo

    It felt somewhat out of left field, tonally, if not storywise(yes it was set-up that there was another unaccounted for person somewhere, and it most likely that captain, but everything involving it was a bit different than everything else. But the first 2/3rds were all of a very focused piece, and the last 3rd wasnt. It's not like 2001, which besides being long enough to adequately stretch each sequence, divided itself up in 3 parts to begin with. Seperate structures was it's M.O. from the beginning. Sunshine just inserts something new, long after the primary action has turned and we are moving rapidly towards the end of an established film, when another film shows up, rings the doorbell, and when Sunshine opened it, this new movie stormed it's crispy hide in started eating all the food in the fridge, without warning.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:19:47 AM CDT

    Node

    by just pillow talk

    Like I mentioned above, it took me out of the movie a bit, and I don't think he needed to add that sort of crazy murdering guy into the story.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:21:45 AM CDT

    I'd go with Ran and Days of Heaven

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But you can't go wrong with any of those titles.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:22:14 AM CDT

    Hobo, thanks for the rec.

    by jonah echo

    I'm leaning towards Days of Heaven and Solaris(despite Tarkovsky being very long, and glacially paced, I do love his stuff. I already own Stalker, and watch it about once a year.

    At the same time, I recall Thief being pretty great as far as old fantasy goes.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:24:04 AM CDT

    HOD...yea, Ran is pretty spectacular too..

    by jonah echo

    That's 2 for Days, though. Confirming what I suspected. I don't have many Criterions actually, due to price. Only ones I have are The Seventh Seal, Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast, Kwaidan, and Spirit of the Beehive.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:24:14 AM CDT

    and to add to Jonah's analogy...

    by just pillow talk

    We just went shopping and our credit card is maxed. Charred skin guy was not welcome. Good day sir, I say good day!

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:28:50 AM CDT

    Mori, if you are still around..

    by jonah echo

    Any suggestions on Criterion releases you'd reccomend? Just getting a general consensus. I know it seems like you often are answering personal character attacks here, but some suggestions would be appreciated.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:35:52 AM CDT

    Also, I never logged back in here..

    by jonah echo

    after Mori mentioned the time bump for his ep, so my wife and I left space in our thursday scheduled movie night to see it. So after watching "Without A Clue"(it was ok, I missed it all those years ago, and it's only passable because of Caine, really, even Kingsley seems lost in it) and a couple of season 6 X-Files, I turned on NBC, only to see Superman Brandon Routh looking slightly unshaven(but only slightly) in some nonsense clled The Commons about an evil neighborhood. And it was awful. It was poorly acted, scripted and directed. It didnt even follow any sense of narrative cohesion, basic storytelling rules or have even a modicum of suspense. And as a story explaining or revealing the nature of the evil 'hood, it was useless. I can't tell you anymore about it's true nature now than I could have five minutes in. It was more inept than most eps of Tales from the Darkside.

    The creepiest moment was creepy for other reasons. It involved seeing Brandon Routh sitting in a wheel chair at the end,which given his previous role and the history of that character's previous incarnations, actually seemed a little haunting. But that was mostly because my mind had to go somewhere else, anywhere else, that wasn't focused on this mess.

    The thirty seconds they showed of Skin and Bones, with Doug Jones peeking his face out behind covers was creepier than the entirety of the Commons.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:39:23 AM CDT

    Charred skin guy.

    by hobocode

    I don't why but for some reason I liked it. It didn't feel out of place to me at all. But I respect the fact that some may not like it. To each his own.
    Regarding Criterion: I've had my eye on that M DVD for awhile. That and Berlin Alexanderplatz. Waiting for them to go down in price though.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:40:53 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    I would also be interested in reading some of your stuff, if you don't mind sending some.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:42:50 AM CDT

    Hobo..

    by jonah echo

    if you go over to deepdiscount.com there are running a promotion where you can buy one, and get one free. They have both M and Alexanderplatz, and so, essentially it's paying about 15 bucks a piece for them. DD also ships for free, and I buy from the very regularly and have never had any problems at all. Awesome site, actually.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:44:06 AM CDT

    Here it is actually..

    by jonah echo

    http://www.deepdiscount.com/DVD---Criterion-Buy-1-Get-1-Free_stcVVcatId476505VVviewcat.htm?promoCode=B1G1CRITE0807

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:45:09 AM CDT

    actually, scratch that for Berlin..

    by jonah echo

    It's there, but it's price is 100 dollars..Is that normal? Good grief!

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  • Jul 25, 2008 10:50:11 AM CDT

    Berlin alexanderplatz

    by hobocode

    It's 14 part tv miniseries. Over 900 minutes in total. But a fucking masterpiece. German expressionism at its best.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:01:26 AM CDT

    God

    by series7

    I got the 3 disk criteron edition of Brazil like two years ago.... and I've never gotten around to watching it. But I've seen two season of Idol, 3 of Americas got talent, 3 of so you think you can dance, 3 of Last Comic, pretty much the worst parts of the bible.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:34:19 AM CDT

    We are slipping..Where is Danny.

    by jonah echo

    Now I have a conundrum. Encounters at the End of the World is playing locally. That or X-Files first? I have no doubt Encounters is the better movie, but my geek cred screams X-Files.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:35:44 AM CDT

    Series,,why did you watch all that stuff?

    by jonah echo

    was it voluntary?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:36:54 AM CDT

    Hobo..thanks for the heads-up

    by jonah echo

    on Berlin, I'll see if I can netflix it,and work my way through it.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:40:11 AM CDT

    holy shit

    by just pillow talk

    Did you see Merriman lose it in the x-files thread?http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/37616#comment_2190004Proving yet again that he's an asshole, whether he did it intentionally or not.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:48:39 AM CDT

    Series7

    by chittychittygangbang

    I have channel surfed past America's Got Talent a few times, but I was shocked not too long ago.
    This girl was on a pole being held horizonally by two men. She would balance on it and go back and forth.
    But all of the sudden, they flipped her way up and she did a backflip and landed back on the pole!
    Sort of remeinded me of the guy on Ocean's 11.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:52:45 AM CDT

    Jonah, easy choice

    by chittychittygangbang

    I would watch Encounters on the biggest screen I could find.
    X-Files looks like it is a borderline at the movie event or nice rental in the comfort of home.
    Don't know what your home theater situation is like, but I could go either way on that one.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:55:11 AM CDT

    Ive got a projector and a huge screen and

    by jonah echo

    and awesome sound system, so I think your points are valid. Catching X is mostly to keep up with the heights. Point being, Ill go for Encounters first, and check X when I get the chance. Thanks Chitty.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:58:48 AM CDT

    Damn, I wish I had a huge screen

    by chittychittygangbang

    I know the theater is part of the experience with fellow moviegoers and all.
    But some of the systems I have seen on these shows that tour rich people's homes..Amazing.
    I wouldn't leave the house, sort of like Leo did as Hughes on the Aviator.
    Speaking of Hughes, I feel a little Hughes and Brimley adventure when I get back from lunch.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:03:11 PM CDT

    We are slipping

    by hawaiian organ donor

    All the way to #3.Jonah, beef up your Kurosawa collection from Criterion. They have most of his stuff. I'll let you read my latest when I'm finished tweaking it. My earlier stuff isn't worth wiping your butt with.Danny must have hit the pub after X-Files and tied one on.I can't find motivation to do anything today.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:04:03 PM CDT

    mines not like that Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    I live in a humble townhouse, but it's nice. Does make it harder to go out to movies at the theater except in the summer.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:06:32 PM CDT

    Merriman Lyon

    by jonah echo

    WOW. Some talkbackers can't be reasoned with. They don't want anything logical. They just want to watch the world burn.

    Pity Merriman didn't show up in this thread. He could have boosted our numbers, and we could have provided SCHLOCK THERAPY for him.

    It has worked for others. Even Memories was almost civil by the end of the 2012 post.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:10:36 PM CDT

    The great thing about projectors

    by hawaiian organ donor

    They are dirt cheap now relatively speaking. You can get a nice little HD deal for $1,000. And a screen is nice but not required. Just a white wall.For years I borrowed the one from the office on the weekends and projected it onto the biggest wall in my place.The only thing about going to the theater I miss is talking about the movie with you guys. I don't even miss the trailers as I download them from Apple, chuck them on a DVD and play them before a movie.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:12:46 PM CDT

    Mines basically a wall painted

    by jonah echo

    with that special paint. It works great. Yea, I got a nice HD projector for just under a 1000. Bought a PS3 to play blurays, and coupled with the sound system we were given for our wedding, we were ready to go.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:14:20 PM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    did you send a list of the asian movies yet? I don't ever check "Moon's" email, so I was curious if you could just give me a heads up here, when you did.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:14:28 PM CDT

    I've got a

    by series7

    Rear projection TV. The Sony WEGA, i love it, and I know when if the lamp burns out I can by a new one for only $200. I really don't like 50% of plasma TV's, unless you got $4000 to shell out for a Phillips or Pioneer. Everyone thinks there Visio is so good, they are terrible, only meant for sports bars to have more TV's.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:14:58 PM CDT

    Regarding Merriman

    by hobocode

    Anyone who says they watched The Dark Knight and came out longing for Schumaker's nipple suits deserves to be chopped up and fed to his pooches. Or shown a magic trick.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:15:46 PM CDT

    I hope Danny's pub excursion

    by jonah echo

    wasn't a result of the movie's quality.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:22:03 PM CDT

    Souds good Danny..I know you aren't

    by jonah echo

    afraid to play rough with franchises that disappoint you, so I must say, your's has been the most heartening review yet.

    Did you sit through the credits for the bit in the middle. Alexandra Dupont was having some sort of anuerism over that moment. I won't say what it is here, but it didnt seem like a big deal to me.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:23:14 PM CDT

    Connolly was that good?

    by jonah echo

    Did they really work his pedophilia into the story in some way that actually mattered, and wasn't just a shock tactic?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:29:46 PM CDT

    I've heard alot of talk about SUNSHINE...

    by thekylegassproject

    I fucking LOVE danny boyle. he would be in my top ten directors. but sunshine, while ripe with alot of compelling stuff, started to unravel somewhere in the middle.

    it began to feel like a film that had ALOT of trouble in post. i.e. executive "notes", that sort of thing.

    that being said, i still LOVE LOVE LOVE cillian murphy. i could watch his shit wiped onto celluoid running through an old projector onto the side of a wall and would still love it. the man can do no wrong. and we don't see him as much as we should simply because of his integrity and high standards he keeps in regards to the projects that he worked on.

    and here is a question i would love to get some feedback on...

    did SUNSHINE not come dangerously close to straight up ripping off EVENT HORIZON?

    a mysterious distress beacon from a missing ship.

    a forboding captain's log

    a bald, demon-looking madman captain

    it all smacks of EVENT HORIZON, does it not?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:33:11 PM CDT

    Jonah!

    by toadkillerdog

    Ha! Saying that Danny isnt' "afraid to play rough with franchises that disappoint you", well, I thought I was diplomatic -at least sometimes. But you sir, built the bakery, created the cake mix that sold millions, and was subsequently screwed out of your royalties by your rotten half-step-sister, then you stole the cake from her wedding to your accountant/lawyer/dog-walker.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:38:02 PM CDT

    Kyle

    by jonah echo

    Indeed, that entire section that featured the horror elements did seem a bit like Event Horizon. That was my wife's other comment. "I expected sam neil to show up at the end and rip out his eyes."

    The funny thing is, and I've mentioned it elsewhere, is that while Sunshine(a far better movie than Event) seemed to evoke Event, when Event was released, it reminded of other movies too, namely Solaris and Darkside of the Moon.Darkside even had the "hell in space" angle.

    Personally, Ive never truly understood that spiritual/ghostly horror in space angle. The two have never much jived in my mind. Solaris (both versions) explored it in an interesting way that intermingled with the science fiction, but I think there is the real challenge, if someone wants to take it.

    The ghost story aboard the spaceship. It still hasn't been done well. Can it?

    Kyle, I think it requires some consideration. An intriguing thought, particularly if one were merging a more old fashioned, Jack Londonish ghost story onto the sci-fi model. I think it could work.

    If Im missing a movie that did this, someone let me know. I'm intrigued.

    Thanks for the tasty tangent Kyle.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:45:03 PM CDT

    this talkback is something of a workhorse, no?

    by jonah echo

    Unlike the 2012 one that effortlessly glided to 2000 some posts during a dry news bit, and during a holiday time, this one has been facing off against comic-con news, stuff like new Tron footage, The Dark Knight, an X-Files sequel and it has been chugging gracefully along.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:47:31 PM CDT

    Haven't e-mailed the list yet, Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'll need the weekend to go through the 2 or 3 spindles of DVDs I have. You know what's sad? I bought most of those movies when they became available later on so that tells you how much insane amounts of dineros I've spent on Asian film.Off the top of my head I can name stuff like Crying Fist, Antarctic Journal, Bloody Tie, The Art of Fighting, Daisy, Princess Aurora, Mr. Socrates, Dirty Carnival, A Bloody Aria, King and the Clown, Protege, Yamato, Sinking of Japan....yada, yada, yada. I'd be very surprised if you had seen more than a couple in that list.And of course there are the romcoms we never talk about like Wedding Campaign and Beast & the Beauty which are pretty darn good.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:49:02 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by thekylegassproject

    I agree completely. Funny the subject of your post because I've been going back through the X-FILES, which i don't know what you think about that, but at any rate - i just saw the ep in which there was a ghost from the "face" that was photographed on the surface of mars that possessed an astronaut on a spacewalk. he brings it back to earth and it makes sabotage NASA missions. haha! it was a stand alone ep that totally missed the mark. talk about not being able to reconcile the space/ghost dynamic!

    and yes, while i feel SUNSHINE did have some issues, it was, indeed, a far superior film than EVENT.

    but did you understand what i was talking about with the problems in SUNSHINE? i was completely absorbed. boyle had me dead to rights. and then the storytelling seemed to get sloppy and it totally felt like someone dropped the ball in post. it's been a while since i've seen it and i write a weekly review column for some local publications so i watch & watch until my memory starts to dump details. but what are your thoughts?

    am i just missing something?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:49:42 PM CDT

    Oohh..Oooh..

    by jonah echo

    I call dibs on Antarctic Journal. Is that a ghost story or something? I tried to get ahold of it previously, but was never able to.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:54:21 PM CDT

    Michelle Yeoh is in Sunshine???

    by the milf lover

    How the hell did I miss that? That movie really did totally fly under the radar, I'm aware of it but barely remember hearing about it coming out. And nice to hear Danny liked X-Files. I just might give it a look this weekend after all.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 12:57:28 PM CDT

    Kyle,

    by jonah echo

    first, while I was writing back to you that awful, awful X-Files ep came to mind. As for X-Files, I love them and bought all the seasons 1-7(save for 5 which I already havd because it's my fave)when they came on sale for like 17 bucks a few years ago.I've been watching through them with my wife, and we are at the end of season 6. Last night we watched The Unnatural and Field Trip, two great episodes actually.

    As for the Sunshine issue, just as recently as a few hours ago I said this in regards to that section you speak of:

    Sunshine just inserts something new, long after the primary action has turned and we are moving rapidly towards the end of an established film, when another film shows up, rings the doorbell, and when Sunshine opened it, this new movie stormed it's crispy hide in started eating all the food in the fridge, without warning.

    My guess, Kyle, is that the wierdo captain stuff comprised a larger part of the story, and perhaps made it a more trippy, visionary, philisophical,(something!) experience. As it was, it was like that was pared back until it became an odd splinter in the thumb of a gripping movie.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:01:31 PM CDT

    Jonah, i like the way you think, sir

    by thekylegassproject

    well said. that puts words to what i could not. i remember it most certainly turned on a dime and became another film entirely...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:02:22 PM CDT

    MORI

    by thekylegassproject

    any word back from the harvey camp yet by chance?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:08:31 PM CDT

    HOD..of the ones you mentioned..

    by jonah echo

    I have seen:

    Dirty Carnival, which was a very good movie IMO. Korean crime-esque dramas are often, surprisingly good.This was one of the best.

    Protege was too much for me. A bit too disturbing, with not enough good material I thought. Feel free to send me any of the less edgy ones.

    Princess Aurora was a decent movie. In that revenge vein, which Park was mining for a while there.

    Art of Fighting was great. I'd love to see that again.

    Yamato was a pretty tragic flick I thought, but very well done.

    Japan is Sinking-I loved this, even though it was your big dumb disaster flick, but in order to top all others, the whole country is sinking. Nice. I loved it. Would relish the chance to see it again.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:14:10 PM CDT

    For a decent home theater..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Would $2000 get me set up pretty well?
    I like the idea of the HD projector because I have a wall that would work.
    We also need a good broad topic to put this talkback in a good cruising gear.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:18:47 PM CDT

    Chitty, that would work..

    by jonah echo

    You could do something nice for 2000.Would you need speakers, reciever, etc? That is also something to consider. I'd also reccomend a bluray player. The hi-def really makes a diff with the bigger picture. You may want to get a ceiling mount for your projecter as well.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:35:24 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You are without a doubt, THE MAN. You really do keep up on your Asian cinema. I'm stunned you've seen most of those titles. Wow. Just wow.Antartic Journal is a funked up horror film about an expedition on their way to the south pole and things go awry.Dude, really, I can't say it enough, you impress the hell out of me.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:41:14 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You can get a good HD projector for $1,000 and a good receiver and speaker setup for $300-$500. And if you want Blu-ray, there's another $300. So yes, for $2,000 you can get a primo setup.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:42:08 PM CDT

    well, HOD...

    by jonah echo

    I have a man on the inside..not my insides, that would be a Masters of Horror ep...I mean, my friend went to Japan a few years ago to teach english there. So he helps me out with some titles. The rest I seek out because of my hunger for the stuff.Incidentally, my friend's desire for the Japanese culture was kindled when, a week after meeting him in 2000, I handed him a copy of the Japanese Shall We Dance? and that was that..

    Ever see Buppah Rahtree, a Thai horror? It's pretty awesome.

    Also, how bout Kamikaze Girls or Memories of Matsuko? I'm looking forward to the director's 3rd feature.

    Is Antarctic Journal good?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:44:14 PM CDT

    I would need the whole shooting match

    by chittychittygangbang

    I have a DVD player and 32-inch tv. That's it.
    I would need to start from scratch and make a plan.
    I thought of sinking the money into a home gym, but a home theater would be used by whole fam.
    I would love to see my daughter's face when she sees a Pixar movie on projection. Of course I would be just as entertained.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 1:58:27 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm not going to encourage you to spend money you might have have in these trying financial times, but if you do have a budget of $2,000 to work with, then yes, you can get a complete home theater, which is funny because that's a whole system for what I paid for my projector alone two years ago. If you have a membership to Costco, then there's the way to go.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:00:33 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Antartic Journal is a mixed bag. I'll send it to you as I think it's worth 2 hours of your time. But even the Asian movies that miss I enjoy watching the same way I enjoyed Sunshine overall.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:24:43 PM CDT

    HOD

    by chittychittygangbang

    In the next fews months selling home to move to another. Will have profit, so I figured $2000 would be feasible.
    If I weren't selling and moving, then no I couldn't justify adding another payment to my budget.
    But I am going to do my homework and see what I come up with.
    I wish I knew Asian cinema better. I feel lost right now.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:36:28 PM CDT

    What have you seen lately chitty? anything good?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 25, 2008 2:38:52 PM CDT

    Time for a new topic.. Saw the previews on tv last night for

    by jonah echo

    Lost Boys 2(which looks terrible) and figured, why dont we do a talkback theme revolving around..

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:41:10 PM CDT

    This may sound dumb, but...

    by chittychittygangbang

    As a pure slice of entertainment cheese, I have been watching Burn Notice.
    It's simple stand alone fun week to week, but also has just enough of the who burned him mystery strung in.
    Oh yeah, Mad Men starts Sunday, so I will be watching that.
    I really felt both pity and anger at Peggy in that last episode

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:42:28 PM CDT

    vampires...

    by jonah echo

    and in talking about them, let me start with four mentions:

    the must-see: Vampyr by Dreyer. It's an odd, strange film and Harry overhyped it a bit, but it is completely worth seeing and atmospherically rich.

    the odd: Addiction about a vampiric college student and co-starring Walken, who really gives that droll, deterioration feel to his vampire. You can tell being dead is a pain in the butt for Walken.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 2:45:32 PM CDT

    Bram Stoker's Dracula...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Blew me away when I first saw it.
    It has held up well to, as Oldman actually manages to make me feel a little sympathy for one of the most hated villains of all time.
    Also thought that red head chick was SMOKING hot.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:02:36 PM CDT

    Disappointing Vampire movie

    by xiphos_2

    Was John Carpenters Vampires starring James Woods based on the book by John Steakley. The book was entertaining as hell, and easily adaptable as a movie but Carpenter dropped the ball on that one, bad.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:05:18 PM CDT

    Saw Carpenter's Vampire

    by chittychittygangbang

    Went to theater and saw. Best thing about it was the Jeeps pulling out the bodies.
    But it played like a sci-fi original, where they just replace Woods with Bon Jovi.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:25:55 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by xiphos_2

    If you can find a copy Of John Steakleys Vampire read it. It will make you hate the movie for what it did to the book. I'm not one to say adaptations have to be exact but they nutered the whole story.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:34:58 PM CDT

    I need to get a copy of that

    by chittychittygangbang

    I will have to try and get a copy of that this weekend. I would also like to get a copy of Armor too.
    Vampire$ the novel actually sounds about 10 times better than the movie.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:53:32 PM CDT

    Geez this talkback threw out the anchor

    by chittychittygangbang

    and came to a slow and steady halt.
    I thought Vampires were a cool topic. You know how many campy Vampire movies there are?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 3:55:43 PM CDT

    What about Once Bitten?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Jim Carrey's girlfriend not letting him have sex with her and he is looking at the other cars go up and down in the parking lot.
    I admit I laughed at that part.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:11:38 PM CDT

    Lets get cooking with the vampire flicks..here we go..

    by jonah echo

    Lifeforce-isn't this some TB guy's fave or something. As a youngster, this one stirred confusing thoughts. Interesting idea. Saw it again recently, works a little, but not all the way. But, man it really should.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:13:02 PM CDT

    Obviously Fright Night

    by jonah echo

    "Brewster, you're so cool!" To this day, its one of my fave horror films.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:19:44 PM CDT

    Fright Night 2

    by jonah echo

    Julie Carmen as Reginia Dandridge. Still fun, but not as good as one.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:20:08 PM CDT

    and Fright NIght II

    by chittychittygangbang

    Liked this almost as much as the first one. Almost.
    I actually think Fright Night holds the most entertainment for me from any vampire flick I've seen.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:21:48 PM CDT

    Red Blooded American Girl

    by jonah echo

    which wasnt very good, at all. Wasn't Chris Plummer in it?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:23:34 PM CDT

    The Hunger

    by jonah echo

    Wierd. Tony Scott before the ADD cam and the green tints. I don't really like it, but I understand how others do.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:26:33 PM CDT

    Black Sabbath

    by jonah echo

    with the Wurderlak and Boris Karloff as the old vampire who returns to his family.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:28:53 PM CDT

    Isle of the Dead

    by jonah echo

    which is the only Lewton film dealing with vampire like legends. This one is greek, and may or may not actuallybe true, but Karloff is here again.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:29:36 PM CDT

    If you really think about..

    by chittychittygangbang

    You can make a case for Fright Night as one of the top five of all time.
    Don't laugh yet. It has just about everything you would want: Tension, Humor, Scare moments. You can actually tell they had a good time making that movie.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:30:04 PM CDT

    Night Stalker-the original tv movie

    by jonah echo

    with Karl going up against a dude that actually dresses like Dracula during the 70s. I love this movie.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:31:04 PM CDT

    Vamp

    by jonah echo

    had Grace Jones as a vampire.very appropriate.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:32:09 PM CDT

    Nosferatu, both Murnau..

    by jonah echo

    and Herzog. Both are beautiful movies.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:36:56 PM CDT

    Cruise in Interview...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Earlier in the week I stated that Bale played his Americian Psycho character a little too well. Leading to speculation that he really acted like that.
    Now think about Cruise in Interview with a Vampire. Now think about how he really hasn't aged very much. Hmmmm.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:42:25 PM CDT

    Shadow of the Vampire

    by jonah echo

    with Dafoe as Max Shrek. Havent seen this since it's release.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:43:20 PM CDT

    Inoocent Blood

    by jonah echo

    which contained the Robert Loggia ripping out Don Rickles throat scene

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:44:59 PM CDT

    Blade

    by jonah echo

    remember seeing the first one and being pleasantly surprised, but not blown away.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:45:55 PM CDT

    Lemora: A Child's Tale of the Supernatural

    by jonah echo

    A wierd flick, with those saphhic elements that often find their way into the vampire genre.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:46:39 PM CDT

    Vampire's Kiss with Nic Cage

    by jonah echo

    lame. Never cared much for this one.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:47:40 PM CDT

    To Die For and To Die For II

    by jonah echo

    one obvious rendition on Stoker and the second an even more obvious attempt at soft core vampire thriller. Niether terribly worth the effort.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:47:54 PM CDT

    Yeah Blade surprised me

    by chittychittygangbang

    I went thinking hohum and left feeling pretty good about it. I actually liked Blade II better, but could have done without the family drama at the end.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:48:50 PM CDT

    and to give a shout out for HOD and the asian vampires..

    by jonah echo

    SEVEN GOLDEN VAMPIRES which teamed up Hammer horror and martial arts goodness. Peter Cushing and a Ghengis Khan-esque Dracula. fun stuff.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:49:50 PM CDT

    Looked them up and

    by chittychittygangbang

    There were a number of erotic vampire movies, even man-on-man and lesbian themed.
    I've never heard of any of the ones listed.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:50:00 PM CDT

    Twin Effect-more asian vampires

    by jonah echo

    Amusing, but not good, with a Jackie Chan cameo. Remember that vampire chick fired her teeth at the villain at one point, as if they were bullets.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:51:27 PM CDT

    Moon Child

    by jonah echo

    another asian vampire film. A decent, but sort of tedious thing to watch.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:52:43 PM CDT

    Teeth as Bullets?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Damn, talk about trying to put your own spin on the legend.
    Dracula 2000 was on AMC the other night.
    Avoid it at all costs.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:52:48 PM CDT

    Marebito

    by jonah echo

    japanese horror film that is quite effective most of the time. Liked it. Sink your teeth into this one, if you are thirsting for something different. And thus I have fufilled my Peter Travers qouta for the date.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:53:37 PM CDT

    Dracula with Frank Langella

    by jonah echo

    always liked this take. Fun stuff.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:54:59 PM CDT

    Dracula with Jack Palance.

    by jonah echo

    wow. just wow.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:56:22 PM CDT

    The Thirst

    by jonah echo

    a relatively recent one, and not terribly good.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:56:34 PM CDT

    Didn't somebody say earlier...

    by chittychittygangbang

    There was a special on vampires on film and Kristina Lokken and Uwe Boll were talking about the depth of her character and the story of BloodRayne.
    Damn that cracked me up.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:57:42 PM CDT

    Subspecies 1-4

    by jonah echo

    Wow. I remember the setting being creepy, because it was clear they filmed somewhere old world and probably terribly cheap, and the vampires makeup was sort of haunting, but otherwise they were bores.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:58:35 PM CDT

    Chitty,

    by jonah echo

    I can totally see a case made for Fright Night in top five vampire films. Have to think on it more, but sure, why not.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 4:58:36 PM CDT

    Hostory Channel had a special on Vlad

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was looking into the rooms under his castles and stories about his cruelty.
    Very interesting show.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:00:08 PM CDT

    Yea, interesting bit over in Proyas article

    by jonah echo

    is that he is working on a film called Dracula Year Zero or something like that. It deals with the early days of Vlad, but I do believe it is a vampire film. Sounds cool.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:01:15 PM CDT

    I have to put Fright Night up there

    by chittychittygangbang

    I just enjoy watching it too much. Sure it's not a 'Classic' per se.
    But as far as quality entertainment it is hard to beat. Sarandon nailed that character so did they entire cast really.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:02:50 PM CDT

    Goerge Hamilton had Love at First Bite

    by jonah echo

    what crap.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:03:49 PM CDT

    Romero's Martin

    by jonah echo

    a wierd, but cool vampire take.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:04:02 PM CDT

    Shit, have to head home from work

    by chittychittygangbang

    Good talking to you guys.
    I'll be back later tonight after grilling dead cow.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:05:19 PM CDT

    Cold Hearts was from the earlier days of this site

    by jonah echo

    and it was a low budget one that got some buzz, til people saw it. I remember it starred the pink poweranger and was like a romeo and juliet vampire take..but then that leads to...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:06:12 PM CDT

    Mmm..cow...enjoy chitty..and remember the

    by jonah echo

    vampire cows from Littlest Vampire.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:07:01 PM CDT

    and now..Im here,...by myself..

    by jonah echo

    talking to myself..

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:12:24 PM CDT

    a few more to boost the TB and then Im off..

    by jonah echo

    Grandpa is a Vampire with Al Lewis. Not terrible, but not engaging. Eh. Not very good for a kid's flick.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:13:16 PM CDT

    Underworld and Underworld 2

    by jonah echo

    were pretty much silly, and not too engaging. Liked the creature costumes in the second. Itwas almost passable as entertainment. Almost.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:13:45 PM CDT

    Salem's Lot

    by jonah echo

    Pretty cool...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:14:37 PM CDT

    Stephen King's Night Flier

    by jonah echo

    a pretty good and underrated movie actually. Any vampire fans out there that havent seen this owe it to themselves to check it out.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:15:19 PM CDT

    Embrace of the Vampire

    by jonah echo

    Alyssa Milano. Alotta Alyssa Milano if memory serves.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:16:37 PM CDT

    Near Dark

    by jonah echo

    The awesome Bigelow movie with Lance as a vampire, as well as Bill Paxton. This was a classic.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:17:02 PM CDT

    The Forsaken

    by jonah echo

    not so much a classic.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:18:16 PM CDT

    Let the Right One In

    by jonah echo

    Wait til you guys get a load of this one. One of the true classics of vampire fiction. Just great really. Good stuff, but still on the way. Foreign flick.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:19:38 PM CDT

    Frostbitten

    by jonah echo

    Saw this last year on netflix. A reasonably fun vampire comedy. Death by lawn gnome. Nice. Seriously, shlocksters, put this one on your queue. It's worthwhile.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:20:08 PM CDT

    30 Days of Night

    by jonah echo

    which I suddenly got a hankering to watch.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:21:32 PM CDT

    Hammer's Dracula Chris Lee

    by jonah echo

    I feel personally ashamed we have gone so far without mentioning him..truly a great spin on the character. I suspect my silence is because I took him for granted, as a given..much like..

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:22:17 PM CDT

    Bela!!

    by jonah echo

    "You must be double jointed, and also Hungarian."

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:23:44 PM CDT

    Vampyres

    by jonah echo

    the creepy 70s movie with the two female vampires who live in a castle and occasionally prowl the grounds for blood. Atmospheric and odd.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:25:58 PM CDT

    Vampire Hunter D

    by jonah echo

    a staple of the anime diet, but in reality not so satisfying.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:26:37 PM CDT

    Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust

    by jonah echo

    a better film than the first. I sort of liked it actually.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:27:44 PM CDT

    The Roost

    by jonah echo

    again, shlocksters take note. Not so much full blown vampires, as bats, bats that actually turn you more into zombies than vampires, but it's a nice piece of horror cheese. I reccomend adding to the queue.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:29:06 PM CDT

    all of those takes on I Am Legend

    by jonah echo

    should be vampire films, even if they just quite aren't. Last Man on Earth is pretty close.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:31:05 PM CDT

    Cronos

    by jonah echo

    is a truly great little vampire movie. This one does a splendid job of revamping(obviously, intended) the genre and taking some new looks at it. Del Toro's first movie. And it's a really really good one. If you havent seen this. SEE IT NOW.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:31:49 PM CDT

    Bordello of Blood..

    by jonah echo

    well it had vampires right? it qualifies? doesnt it?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:33:10 PM CDT

    Graveyard Shift

    by jonah echo

    the 80s one with the vampire taxi driver I think. There were two of these, both bad.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:34:00 PM CDT

    Vampirella

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 25, 2008 5:35:00 PM CDT

    Fearless Vampire Hunters

    by jonah echo

    I rather liked this, don't know if anyone else did or not. One of Polanski's odder entries. Which is kind of saying something when it comes to Polanski.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:35:50 PM CDT

    Rutger Hauer in Buffy the Vampire Slayer

    by jonah echo

    oh look everyone! Joss Whedon is SOOO talented!

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:37:01 PM CDT

    Vampire in Brooklyn

    by jonah echo

    Ohh, and this was a BIG Craven misstep. And the thing I said about Joss was mean. sorry.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:38:04 PM CDT

    Nadja with Peter Fonda..

    by jonah echo

    is that the right title. Im not sure. Saw this years ago. Didnt particularly like it, but did see it.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:38:38 PM CDT

    tv gave us

    by jonah echo

    Forever Knight, which wasnt so hot...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:39:14 PM CDT

    and Kindred the Embraced..

    by jonah echo

    which sucked..and of course..

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:39:49 PM CDT

    Dark Shadows

    by jonah echo

    which didnt suck, and was in fact, pretty darn good all things considered.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:40:47 PM CDT

    there was also a tv movie called..The Midnight Hour

    by jonah echo

    which I think had, among other things, Sherri Belafonte as a vampiress. Anyone recall this?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:42:39 PM CDT

    and in the late 90s the tv version of..

    by jonah echo

    House of Frankenstein. Pretty vividly remember a cheezoid scene of someone breaking into Draculas night club(oh my) and starting to flame-throw vampires as Smashing Pumpkins began singing on the soundtrack,yes, "The world is a vampire..." It was very very subtle.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:44:37 PM CDT

    The X-Files, had, I think only two vampire eps..

    by jonah echo

    one was called Three from early season 2. It was a Mulder centered ep and definitely had that attempt at 90's tv sex. It was decent though.

    The second was Bad Blood, which was awesome and featured a fat little vampire pizza delivery boy who didnt even have real fangs, but plastic ones.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:45:24 PM CDT

    Van Helsing

    by jonah echo

    which I loathe to bring up, but you had several vampires there. All stupid.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:46:41 PM CDT

    Transylvania 6500

    by jonah echo

    was pretty much cheese, but it did have Gina Davis as a vampiress and that made all the difference.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:48:08 PM CDT

    Blacula!

    by jonah echo

    Not sure how I missed him either. A fun movie actually, bot nothing great.

    Most impressive part is so far I've been able to do this alfrom memory, so some of the titles above might be off.

    but I think that puts us back on top.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:49:17 PM CDT

    Ultraviolet..

    by jonah echo

    heh, I watched this thing for 30 minutes until I figured out they were supposed to be vampires.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:50:21 PM CDT

    Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat

    by jonah echo

    with Bruce Campbell and David Carradine

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:51:03 PM CDT

    Jesse James vs. Dracula

    by jonah echo

    ha. to think this was made. to think I saw it.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 5:54:55 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo beware

    by finky089

    you're cruisin' for a banning spamming like that. Take it from someone who's been there...

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:00:15 PM CDT

    While the grill is warming up

    by chittychittygangbang

    Wasn't there an episode of the Nightstalker with a vampire?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:00:37 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by therewolf

    I saw The Old Dark House as a kid. I was so scared I wouldn't go upstairs to bed afterwards! I had to sleep on the couch. My earliest memory of movies, possibly the first movie I ever saw. Second was Ice Station Zebra. Oh yeah, someone on another brilliant talkback didn't think Forbidden World (Mutant) was available on DVD. You can get it on German import from movietyme. This B-movie stuff is fantastic, fellas.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:01:45 PM CDT

    Can't forget Dark Shadows

    by chittychittygangbang

    Vampire soap Opera. I remember watching this one with mom.
    You could see the wires on the bats and everything. Ha, good times.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:03:53 PM CDT

    Jim from the Office was bitten

    by chittychittygangbang

    Dwight enlisted the help of Creed to make he stake.
    When he said it would make sense for a bat to come to the us through a vania, as in Pennsylvania.
    Damn I laughed at that episode, ecspecially when Jim was teasing him with the tells a vampire would show.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:04:59 PM CDT

    Does Moonlight ummm Count?

    by chittychittygangbang

  • Jul 25, 2008 6:10:40 PM CDT

    Was Bunnicula made into a cartoon?

    by chittychittygangbang

    It had a vampire bunny that sucked veggies. Yum.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:15:11 PM CDT

    Monster Squad of course

    by chittychittygangbang

    one of my alltime favorites as a kid and now.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:17:00 PM CDT

    Queen of the Damned

    by chittychittygangbang

    Hate to say it, but Lestate played a mean fiddle. Actually was able to sit through this one.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:38:09 PM CDT

    Has Near Dark been mentioned?

    by xiphos_2

    Great Vampire movie with Bill Paxton, Adrian Pasdar and Lance Henrikson from the 80's? Man the bar sceen is cool as hell.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:43:22 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by xiphos_2

    Once you read Vampires you'll realize how bad the movie was compared to what could have been.Armour is pretty much an updated version of Starship Troopers or maybe a back door sequal. Its pretty good, I liked Steakleys take on the battle suit.That was one of the few things that bothered me about the movie version Of Troopers, no drop crafts or battle armour.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 6:45:30 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by series7

    Burn notice rules Queen of the damned doesn't god that movie was awful.

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  • Don't see it mentioned, haven't seen it though?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:14:12 PM CDT

    How about Dracula 2000

    by the milf lover

    where it turns out that Dracula is actually JUDAS??? so stupid, thank god for the fast forward button, that only took about 30 minutes to watch. Innocent Blood was great fun, gotta love Anne Parillaud she was the original and best Nikita after all, John Carpenters Vampires had a good violent first half-hour but went lame fast after that, and I quite enjoyed Forever Knight back in the day, dont know if it aged well tho. And much as I enjoyed Ultraviolet, I dont consider that a vampire movie at all.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:27:20 PM CDT

    #! AGAIN!

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Good job guys, and by that I mean mostly Jonah. You're such a welcome addition to our little AICN group.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 7:29:58 PM CDT

    I wish I could contribute more

    by series7

    But with the make shift office right now, can't really dick around the internet.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:19:49 PM CDT

    The pedophilia thing is handled with a lot of class

    by series7

    Well thats good to know. You don't get that enough these day. Since I thought I knew some Vampire movies that Jonah didn't know then I realized that I didn't. How bout pedophilia movies?

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:46:00 PM CDT

    I'm back from awesome cookout

    by chittychittygangbang

    If Armor is like Starship Troopers but with battle armor, then I'm reading it.
    Believe it or not I think of good exoskeleton armor like the Catepillar Power Loader in Aliens.
    My friends and I tried to constuct one out of wood. We painted it yellow and everything.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:49:40 PM CDT

    But we lacked the hydraulics

    by chittychittygangbang

    Had to use good old fashioned elbow grease.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:55:36 PM CDT

    Damn, you can't stop us

    by chittychittygangbang

    I swear we can get on any thread and ride that bitch to the top.

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  • Jul 25, 2008 11:58:12 PM CDT

    Series 7

    by chittychittygangbang

    The most famous paedophilia movie would be Lolita wouldn't it?
    I have seen the original, but only bits and pieces of the one with Jeremy Irons.
    Can't think of any else off hand.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:01:12 AM CDT

    I can think of a song though

    by chittychittygangbang

    Knoxville Courthouse Blues by Hank Williams Jr.
    He is at a bar and woman walks up and wants to dance. Then she wants to go somewhere and be alone.
    He has her in a hotel room and the police break down the door and her parents walk in.
    She is only 17 and he gets to serve time in jail.
    Good moral lesson, as girls nowadays look older than they are.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:06:45 AM CDT

    Back to Vampire movies

    by chittychittygangbang

    Is it just me or did Kirstin Dunst give the performance of her career at age 11?
    I mean when the older vampire woman covered her up in that pit and they started to burn, I honestly felt bad.
    Speaking of paedophilia, she played a child prostitue on the hit NBC medical drama E.R.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:09:25 AM CDT

    Its obviously just me but....

    by whatnot

    This was the most boring article in the history of AICN, the sheer number of posts leads me to believe that a lot of you need to get a life.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:13:48 AM CDT

    I thought I was the only Bosephus fan on AICN

    by xiphos_2

    Good advice about skirts. Half the jail bait look they're in their twenties. Danger WilL Robinson DANGER!

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:17:03 AM CDT

    No kidding Xi

    by chittychittygangbang

    When I was in school there would be one uberbabe in each grade. Maybe a couple more slighty hot chicks.
    Now, Jesus they are everywhere. I don't understand.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:20:24 AM CDT

    I certainly enjoy old country

    by chittychittygangbang

    My ipod is full of it.
    Johnny Cash, Hank, Hank Jr, Willie, Merle, Waylon, Bob Wills etc.
    Love that old school country and strangly enough I can't get into the new stuff today.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:23:11 AM CDT

    Don't get why everyone is pissed at Drew

    by exterminans

    He saw a genre film he loved. A film he thinks should be treated better than being dumped to 50 theaters before a DVD release. A film he thinks could make some cash for the studio during the slow months between now and November. So why are people pissed exactly? Because he had the nerve to voice his opinion on a website he writes for? God forbid!

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:25:36 AM CDT

    Watching Diariy of the Dead right now

    by series7

    Its pretty lame with how this boner is freaking out about who he's killed. Other then that its kinda of interesting, better then Land of the Dead which got its ass kicked by REmake of Dawn in the same year. Starship Troopers, I remember reading like all but the last 3/4 of that book, and most of it was just like a futuristic of full metal jacket (the first half). I thought the movie was awesome. But then again Paul is pretty much flawless. I think Robocop is becoming one of my top five favorite films.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:26:50 AM CDT

    Same for me

    by xiphos_2

    There was always some good lookers around but the sheer quanity now is mind boggling.I'm the same with country, The new stuff is just top 40 with a twang. Although the chick singers are all mega hot, I got to hand it to them on that one.Do you like the late Chris LeDuex?


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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:31:39 AM CDT

    I saw Robocop in the theater

    by chittychittygangbang

    I saw it then as a kid and realized it was more than a good bloody action flick.
    Thrust into being a new cog in the wheel of a corporate death wagon, Weller realizes he is human and with that comes the choices that can only be made with emotion and not just a preset of rules followed to the letter.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:32:49 AM CDT

    This Cowboy's Hat!!!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Enough said.
    That song gives me chills...

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:41:31 AM CDT

    Exterminans

    by xiphos_2

    I think except for a small sub set of people most of the posters on this TB want to see this movie. I know I do. It has Hay-sus fighting a drgon with Vikings. Who wouldn't want to see that?The subsets that don't want to Haysus fighting dragon break down like this.1.What I like to call the MBAs. They think they're in the movie business but live in Ames Iowa.2. Folks like Choclatereighn above who have an ax to grind with Moriarty.This last group is the worst. They are the motherfuckers who have had a stick surgically implanted in thier asses and don't like to have any fun at the movies. Cocksuckrs all.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:44:00 AM CDT

    Exterminans

    by series7

    I don't think people are pissed at Drew. It just seems useless. I mean did you watch the trailer? Go look up the box office takes of Beowulf and Pathfinder. A good release date would be Feb or March (can't be march though because thats when Watchmen is going to play the 300 card, even if 300 was more of a pussy movie then Beowulf), Outlander only has a small chance of becoming a sleeper hit, and it looks like the powers that be are more into making that other Ron Perlman sci-fi flick The Mutant Chronicles that sleeper, when they both could be. I think the more important question here is when is Ron Perlman going to be a fucking known actor? Maybe is Jesus had more of an impact after The Passion of Mel Gibson then there would be a bigger push, but a golf movie, small indie thriller and sweet psycho road killer movie did not a star make. I mean playing Jesus is a tough act to follow, does anyone remember the actor Willem Dafoe????? NO? He really hasn't done shit since he attempt on Jesus. Bottom line about Jesus is, watch the Anchorman extra features where Ron Burgundy interviews JC (James Caviezel) and laugh your ass off. And hope that people realize that James/Jim? and Billy Crudup are two different actors. Because when all is said and done after Watchmen and Outlander are released someone is going to have to be famous (and since everyone else is masked or will either have people thinking damn Roberty Downy Jr is in everything now! AWESOME!) Billy Crudup is to Watchmen as Gerard Butler is to 300. Maybe? Seeing that world has decided that the name Ron Perlman shall not be publically known (minus the Beauty and the Beast days) someone else will have to dawn the crown of star like Vin did with Pitch Black (I mean come on can you name one Mel Gibson movie Cole Hauser has been in? Or which military owes its recruitment increase to Keith David? Or how many Radha Mitchell does it take to set a Denzel on fire? No you can't, but you sure as hell can tell me how many triple X movies star some dude named Vin!).

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:45:34 AM CDT

    Diary of the Dead

    by xiphos_2

    Agreed, DoD was better then Land but that isn't to hard to do, that movie sucked. DoD isn't all that good either.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:46:24 AM CDT

    I think 99% want to see it

    by chittychittygangbang

    How could you not get behind a movie like this?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:03:53 AM CDT

    Pathfinder

    by series7

    God I wanted that movie to be all sorts of awesome. Like an awesome critics like lisa schwarzbaum were too gay to understand. Then I finally saw it and realized that it is truly in probably the top ten of worst movies I've ever seen. Karl Urban just doesn't cut it as an action star, maybe as guy #2 but he sucks, period -->. We all know Clancy Brown needs money, but I've read some things about Pathfinder where Urban got Clancy into the movie were he was doing his own stunts and it felt like maybe Clancy thought that this would at least bring him back to Highlander level fame? I feel bad for Clancy Brown, he falls into a similar category as Ron Perlman, just hasn't gotten the luck of getting a man crush from amazing (foreign) directors like Ron's got. The biggest problem with Pathfinder, is the soul fact that it looks like the whole film has either been dragged through mud or was used to wipe someones ass after a bad case of the Taco Bells. For this I blame Daniel Pearl for. Seeing that the only movies he's done are the original The Texas Chain Saw Massacre and some shit in the 80's including Zapped (yah yah yah Scott Baio's androgynous for both of us to like, Zapped sucks), he's done Pathfinder and AVP: R. Which I know its anti Christian/Muslim/Jewish to say you enjoyed any part of AVP:R, but I'm pretty sure if that movie didn't have Daniel Pearl's name on it, I may have been at least been able to see the movie. I guess this guy has never heard of lights before. God I see his name is attached to the new Jason Movie, even though Jason has always sucked, but in a good way. To sit through another painfully shot Daniel Pearl movie where I guess he just doesn't want his viewers to see what was filmed actually pains me. How this guy gets hired is beyond me? Maybe he's got some terribly light 8mm film of some executive at fox doing something he shouldn't. What would his threats be though? If you don't hire me, I'll figure out how to lighten this up and stop using it to wipe my ass with so if I want to black mail you people can actually see that its you and not sit there and wonder why there new DVD player they just bought is showing a blank screen and full audio.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:09:27 AM CDT

    Calling it a night...

    by chittychittygangbang

    See you later and have a good night (or morning). I'm going to get in the sack and put in Rounders and fall asleep.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 4:06:49 AM CDT

    straight to DVD is fine

    by rupee88

    This looks like kind of a dumb movie...but as long as it isn't shelved, why do you think it needs a wide release? I agree that we need more sci-fi films, but the the project was greenlighted and funded and produced. That is the victory. I'm fine with watching it on DVD.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 4:08:41 AM CDT

    Sunshine is flawed but still cool..

    by rupee88

    Like I said, anytime a new film is made that is close to pure sci-fi, it is great. The first half of Sunshine was very, very cool..it lost me it at the end but still good overall.

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  • that I can think of...maybe I'm missing something obvious but it's sad it has been that long. Of course the audience isn't there for these types of films, so don't blame them...people would rather watch Adam Sandler or Jim Carrey act like a retard than see anything challenging.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:10:35 AM CDT

    The best thing about John Carpenter's Vampires?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Sheryl Lee's ass. Man, that is a great ass she has in that film. She can't act worth a damn, but I do like that butt.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:12:20 AM CDT

    Why not straight to DVD

    by thead

    I'll definitely be getting outlander when it the DVD comes out and supporting it in whatever release it ultimately gets, so that isn't the point. Have a read here http://tinyurl.com/68482e and see for yourself why Outlander is being shafted by the weinsteins. Basically they put themselves in a pickle where they either are unwilling or unable to support properly any indipendantly produces/funded movie of their that has a high (for an indy feature) budget. That's why.

    This is one of the higher up's on the production scale of OUTLANDER's comments on the whole current nature of the industry. I hope he doesn't mind:

    "what we're seeing is virtually an entire segment of the indy scene just
    vanishing. First there was German money. Then hedge fund money. Now... well,
    who knows?

    The bottom line is that it is nearly impossible to make a certain size of
    independent picture anymore. The low-end films almost NEVER get distribution.
    And the really expensive indies, films that at one time used to have guaranteed
    distribution, are now struggling to find a home.

    And the studios, well, forget it. As a line item in a multi-national corp's
    annual report, they can no longer afford to make films that are "execution
    dependent." Very sad. The majors' indy divisions' mandate should be to
    cultivate and nurture cinema that is not a former comic book, sitcom, or Boomer
    nostalgia trip. But more and more that's not what's happening. At any level of
    the industry.

    And the studios wonder why people are running to the internet and cable TV.

    A divestiture of the studios' indy divisions would help because I think the only
    hope we have for better movies is to create a sort of micro-economy that does
    not rely on the scales of return currently needed by the majors and their
    corporate parents."


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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:20:36 AM CDT

    And my favourite vampire film

    by franklin t marmoset

    Would have to be Near Dark. I like that film a lot, and it has one of my favourite Bill Paxton performances in it. "I hate it whent thay ain't been shaved!" He acheives Brice Campbell-esque levels of one liner greatness in that one.By the way, where did it all go wrong for Kathryn Bigelow? She did Near Dark, Blue Steel, and the one and only Point Break, but went off the rails shortly after and I don't think she's done anything that's worth much since. I gave Strange Days another chance last week and I fell asleep half way through, depsite the presence of Michael Wincott. How did that happen?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:23:22 AM CDT

    other movies

    by thead

    I liked sunshine. I didn't hate the end but I would have prefered that they come up with some other kind of conflict for the end than resorting to turn the movie into a slasher pick

    About grindhouse, I never did get to see it in theaters and it kind of irritates me that the theatrical version isn't on DVD here in Canada. I waited and rented both DVD's at the same time and really really loved Planet Terror, but Deathproof was the most horrid, pretentious piece of crap I've ever sat through. My friend who did see the theatrical version enjoyed it in theaters but said that basically they added back in a ton of dialogue that does absolutely *nothing* for the film. If I saw the theatrical version I suppose I might change my opinion of it.

    I partly blame the success (or non-success) of the theatrical run of Grindhouse on the wiensteins though who basically refused to promote it. I hadn't even heard of it until my friend was telling me I needed to go see it in theaters, and by then Bob and Harvey were already spouting in the news how they didn't believe in the double feature idea, and then they backed the idea of spliting the films up before the film ever got it's footings...

    And, then they took that crap extended version of Death Proof to Cannes as if that was some kind of validation to their opinion. All they needed to do was push out an ad campaign on TV a few weeks ahead and basically tell everyone what to expect (regarding double feature and the legnth of the whole film set) but they pretty much did *nothing* and then got all full of themselves when they got the outcome they were expecting.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:27:13 AM CDT

    Worst vampire film?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Dracula 3000, I reckon. That is a horrible, horrible piece of crap, and it has the most laughable version of Dracula I've ever seen, not to mention Casper Van Dien. And why would you cast Erika Eleniak if you're not going to make her show her baps?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 6:27:50 AM CDT

    Vampires

    by thead

    My wife got into Moonlight, and I kind of watched it from the computer mostly because of the lovely Sophia Myles (who is also in Outlander)

    Laugh at me if you will though, but I enjoy the Underworld movies. The Extended version of the first one is quite different from the Theatrical cut. I like a lot of stuff in the extended cut but tonaly the end sequence is a bit different... I like the extended but also like the different tone of the end in the theatrical version. Also, the extended version Also has somewhat of a subplot with Sophia Myles sexy vampire that is mostly cut from the theatrical version.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:45:43 AM CDT

    Good morning, boyos

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was up late watching Asian romcoms with the wife. Paying the price this morning.Today's our sixth wedding anniversary so after I go pick up the lawn mower from the service shop and cut the grass and pull out a months worth of weeds, I guess I gotta clean myself up and take the family unit out for a day of fun, if that's even possible in this jerkwater town.As far as vampire films go, there was this Korean movie a few years back called Vampire Cop Ricky about a guy who got bitten and whenever he got sexually aroused would turn into a vampire. There was this funny scene where he was chasing a suspect and was watching porn on his cell phone so he could transform.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:52:59 AM CDT

    Danny...X-Files credits scene ****SPOILERS****

    by jonah echo

    *****Spoilers****
    I still haven't seen the movie, but Alexandra shared this in another article about the post-movie scene. It doesnt affect the story at all(except to spoil the fact that Mulder and Scully live, which obviously everyone already knows)but apparently this is what the scene shows..

    Mulder and Scully, in swimwear in a tropical paradise somewhere, rowing a boat, when the camera swoops in(a helicopter I imagine?) and Mulder and Scully look up and wave at the camera.

    It infuriated Alexandra. To me, I think that's kind of fun. To each their own. Still need to see the movie though.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:54:10 AM CDT

    vampre movies

    by dijjot

    liked from dusk till dawn. b-but not the parts with the vampires, really. just the rest.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:57:59 AM CDT

    Happy Anniversary HOD

    by jonah echo

    Enjoy your day! Mine was last month. How many years?

    Also, I forgot to mention Vampire Cop Ricky above, when doing the asian vampire flicks. It slipped my mind, but I thought the movie was pretty funny despite the fact it initially looked terrible.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:59:43 AM CDT

    Dijjot

    by jonah echo

    I did forget Dusk til Dawn, as I neglected to mention Monster Squad. Didn't like D2D, but Monster Squad is just awesome.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:59:50 AM CDT

    booo where is the....

    by watertownsurfer

    x-files talkback. now.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:06:07 AM CDT

    Watertown Surfer..

    by jonah echo

    just use this as the X-Files TB for now. Since none of us has actually seen Outlander, it makes it hard to talk much about it, but we have been carrying on ongoing B-movie conversations here, also, the longer this article stays on top, the more people get a chance to read it. It's obvious we have had new people coming to it all the time, to pop in, read it and comment.

    Did you see X-Files? How was it?

    I'm looking forward to it. Danny says it was good. I won't see it til tomorrow. Going with my wife and her family to see The Eagles tonight in D.C. Should be a good time.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:43:34 AM CDT

    x files

    by dijjot

    was...good, for an extended, static episode. will please the less demanding of fans, though it did have a mid 90s feel to it. am not sure thats a good thing, though...

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:46:23 AM CDT

    Dijott

    by jonah echo

    I don't know, I find the best eps of X-Files have that mid 90s feel. Obviously, this will mostly be a nostalgia trip anyway you slice. I hope by some means it is a success though, so we can finally get that full-out invasion flick. And if they ever rally the means for that one, I want a real director and a budget. Of course I wish there were parks where you could see living dinosaurs too. Neither is probably likely to happen.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:48:48 AM CDT

    this youtube video with the ex-astronaut..

    by jonah echo

    why did Harry dig that up? I will say it's odd, but this wouldnt be the first time that someone in a spotlight or reputable position went on to say crazy things.

    If you really want to hear about aliens, get Busey on the line, I'm sure he could tell you all about aliens. Real ones, I imagine.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:51:40 AM CDT

    djott..

    by jonah echo

    was the story handled well in the x-files movie?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:56:19 AM CDT

    in so many words

    by dijjot

    its more or less exactly what a feature length, silver screen renditioning of a monster-of-the-week episode would be. I liked it well enough as a fan of the series. Wasn't as quirky as the show and felt...plodded? superflous? idk what term...in between the key plot points. gillian anderson in a swimsuit=teh win

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:58:51 AM CDT

    oh

    by dijjot

    and they should make a second movie and finish it off with some auto erotic asphyxiation, nah mean.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:01:27 AM CDT

    caviezel is billy lupo in werewolf cop: the cop whos a werewolf

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 26, 2008 10:04:39 AM CDT

    Do Women Want to See Outlander?? YES!!

    by punchbuggyblue

    I am a woman, approaching my 40th birthday. I want very badly to see Outlander. This movie is for any woman who would watch Troy, Lord of the Rings, Gladiator. There's lots of eyecandy. Jack Huston and Jim Caviezel - love it! And then Sophia Miles' character is a strong woman....lots there for us ladies. Now put it on the big screen with a wide theatrical release so us Canadians can see it!!!!

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:04:51 AM CDT

    danny

    by jonah echo

    I still havent seen Pathfinder, but I have a friend at work who is letting me borrow it next week. I have heard nothing good about it, save from you. But I'll give it a try, per your recommendation. And we will see. It has Clancy Brown so it won't be a total bust however it goes down.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:06:18 AM CDT

    Snakeman is pretty bad..

    by jonah echo

    the thing I don't understand is how the fx seems to ger worse rather than better for these flicks. Frankenfish and Dinocroc look better than Snakeman, and I'm not even sure how that happens. It's watchable. Think the same level as Boa vs. Python.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:17:04 AM CDT

    Just finished Deep Rising on FX

    by chittychittygangbang

    Have to say, even after watching the Mummy again, Deep Rising is the flick Sommers did best.
    You can tell everyone was having a good time and that came through in the final product.
    Wished I could have seen what was coming through the woods...

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:20:15 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    The thing in the woods was Van Helsing, rushing in to mutilate Sommers career.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:21:02 AM CDT

    take care Danny..you too.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 26, 2008 10:26:01 AM CDT

    Hopefully, Sommers can reboot

    by chittychittygangbang

    I would love to see a Deep Rising sequel. I still don't know what to make of Van Helsing.
    Who the hell listened to that accent Beckensale had and thought that was a good idea?
    Maybe it was same person who heard Cage's accent in Captian Corelli?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:31:09 AM CDT

    Mark A.Z. Dippé

    by series7

    Directed Frankenfish. He also did Spawn, I think Spawn is awesome. I keep meaning to catch Frankenfish.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:34:05 AM CDT

    Frankenfish is good stuff

    by chittychittygangbang

    I wouldn't buy it on dvd, but I usually watch it when it on sci-fi.
    Speaking of Spawn, what a kickass soundtrack. I listen to some it at the gym.
    It will increase your strength by at least 10 pounds.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:34:08 AM CDT

    what are you up to this weekend chitty?

    by jonah echo

    Im here working on business stuff-boardgame design actually,and then this afternoon off to dinner to with the family and to the Eagles concert in D.C.

    Tomorrow, my wife and I will try and catch X-Files, after church most likely.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:37:33 AM CDT

    Never did catch Deep Rising

    by thead

    looked like fun though.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:38:01 AM CDT

    that explains the better than average fx

    by jonah echo

    Mark worked on Jurassic Park as an fx guy. Spawn was a mess, but it was an ambitious mess.

    And there was something sort of inspired in Leguizamo as that clown.

    The hell fx were that movie's real downfall. If only they hadn't used a Texas Instruments computer for rendering.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:38:28 AM CDT

    Right now I'm..

    by chittychittygangbang

    Keeping an eye on teeny while wife runs errands.
    She is taking a friend to see Momma Mia, so I dodged that bullet and will babysit teeny again tonight. I'm getting a dvd line-up ready now.
    Since she is going to movies this afternoon, I will go tomorrow.
    Going to catch TDK and HB2.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:39:50 AM CDT

    Deep Rising is fun AP if you go in

    by jonah echo

    looking for a B-movie. Also, it depends your tolerance for creature features. Your dedicated creature enthusiast will be all over it. It's probably a B- movie in actuality, but when you love shlock, that - becomes a +.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:42:00 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    you haven't seen either one yet?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:42:27 AM CDT

    Yeah, not sure why

    by thead

    anyone would think you couldn't market Outlander to women... However of the Hundred or so that rated the film on IMDB (not that it's accurate or anything) although considerably less women have voted, on average they've rated the film higher than the men have in each age category.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:42:52 AM CDT

    Funny part of Spawn

    by chittychittygangbang

    When he gets knocked down and his suit goes to a defense mode. He looks down and says "Hell yeah..."
    Damn I still laugh at that part.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:44:45 AM CDT

    Danny

    by jonah echo

    I recall noting that when I saw Paris later that year. And that was another film with terrible, subpar fx work. But in that case it better matched the movie it was in.

    Sad part was the director of American Werewolf in Paris was also the director of an earlier, FAR superior film called Mute Witness. If you haven't seen that one, Netflix it. It's a pretty great thriller, about a mute actress, a snuff film ring, and the ring leader played by Alec Guiness.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:45:07 AM CDT

    Not yet Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    I'm so far behind on my movie viewing. It's seems like there has been something going on every weekend.
    Plus I have to go the next town over (28 miles)to find a cinema.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 10:47:12 AM CDT

    Chitty..where do you live?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 26, 2008 11:01:52 AM CDT

    I just finished

    by series7

    Diary of the dead, pretty good overall. The characters were idiots but thats expected. Man I still say Spawn is awesome. First movie I ever got on DVD, back whene there was only like 20 DVD titles to choose from.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:02:09 AM CDT

    West Point, MS

    by chittychittygangbang

    love small town life, but has drawbacks, like the cinema situation.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:51:48 AM CDT

    My smalltown theater

    by thead

    Has a total of two screens... I've actually seen on more than one occasion films play in theater within weeks of the DVD comming out, and at least once or twice, after the DVD!

    Lately they've been getting all the big summer movies on time though so I have gotten to see Indy4 and The Dark Knight. I was going to catch a few others but I diddn't get a chance and usually unless it's a film on the scale of The dark knight the movie's are gone after a week :(

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:01:41 PM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, you SON OF A

    by brokenheadstuff

    respectful lady i'm sure. GREAT INTERVIEW ON G4 LAST NIGHT ABOUT WATCHMEN.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:14:49 PM CDT

    I live in Baltimore county, and

    by jonah echo

    am about five minutes away from a Loews theater. After that, within twenty minutes of me are 2 regals, a Landmark theater, the Senator-an oldstyle moviehouse from the 30s with one screen(AICN had an article on it last year) and an art theater called The Charles, and a drive-in movie theater.

    Never really considered the blessing of having all those choices. Of course, from here on, I'll be more grateful.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:50:14 PM CDT

    I'd love to

    by thead

    have the money to open a theater of my own. I would love to dedicate at least one screen to art house, independant, and international fare. There's so much great stuff that I never get a chance to see on the big screen.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:51:44 PM CDT

    Problem with Diary

    by series7

    Is that a lot of it is a rip off of the Walking Dead, but in its own right the Walking Dead is a rip off of Night of the Living Dead. Mainly the whole winnabango thing.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:55:12 PM CDT

    the theater

    by thead

    Oh, and the screens at the theater here are small, and the sound is horrible. It might have been state of the art 30 years ago but "ultra-stereo" certainly isn't today. And you'll even get speakers cutting in and out. Thankfully it usually is passable during the features but I can never tell what anyone is saying in the trailers.

    It's not like they don't have the money to improve it. But they have no competition within 150 KM so they just don't bother.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:55:59 PM CDT

    I drive past two

    by series7

    closed down theaters within the first mile of my house on my way to work every day :( I wish I could buy one. One is literatlly less then a minute from my house. We just got a draft house down here, its pretty cool. And the biggest theater the Regal has a crazy amount of neon on it, its pretty cool its like five minutes from me. The furtherest I have to drive is like 20 minutes to either the draft house or the one theater that plays movies in 3-D where the screen room they show it in is about the size of my living room.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 12:57:32 PM CDT

    Sharks

    by thead

    I also liked deep blue sea for the reason that at least it bothered to surprise you with who lived/died.

    Anyone seen open water? Is it any good?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:02:48 PM CDT

    Future of Theaters

    by thead

    If digital distribution and projection really takes hold I'd love for some kind of multiplex hybrid that provides a more "intimat" livingroom-like experience. Why I don't want to give up seeing big roller-coaster movies with a huge audience, having 20 smaller theater "rooms" that could more economically give me greater options within a smaller market could really revolutionize the distribution model of smaller genre pictures and other independant features. Whereas they might not make it out to 5000 huge screens, it wouldn't be implausible for it to play in way more smaller centers than is currently possible, thus increasing the chances of those films finding an audience, and the filmmakers getting to eat.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:13:32 PM CDT

    Ok I don't know

    by series7

    If you watch Last Comic Standing, but I'm watching, were the truth lies and the announcers voice seems really familiar, turns out its the big Canadian guy on Last Comic Standing right now.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:15:47 PM CDT

    That shitty small

    by series7

    Theater I saw U23D in, with the 3D technology it seemed like the screen was huge.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 1:19:42 PM CDT

    Imagine if you

    by series7

    Lived in this town, where this was the biggest theater in town. http://tinyurl.com/5al6lb

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  • Jul 26, 2008 2:25:00 PM CDT

    Hehe wow... Amazing!

    by thead

    Yeah, I'm sure the screen wouldn't feel too small if you get to sit up close.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 2:33:42 PM CDT

    TheAD

    by könig lear

    I agree with you on starting small theaters. It's like any other small-business endeavor, but a much better cause, I think, than another ladies-clothes boutique. Movies constitute a large part of our cultural capital, and people understand that: an opportunity to take in old films, both revered and marginalized, and new ones that don't get cell-phone product placement and marketing campaigns, is one that anyone can appreciate. Film festivals, of whatever genre or era, are the greatest thing movies have going for them these days. Notice I didn't say "the movie industry." The industry depends on sellable product, which is not always the same as good product. Until people stop going to see awful focus-group-generated remakes, studios will keep cranking them out. But movies like OUTLANDER aren't easy sells to studios, even after they've invested $30 million in a production, however counter-intuitive that may be to anyone who's caught a screening, because they a) aren't guaranteed ticket-sellers and b) don't have any hope of the critical boost that would at least get attention come awards season. This is the problem with having an "industry" that sells art. The small theaters, then, are an outlet and an opportunity for small-time filmmakers whose "labors of love" would get such a piddling release, at least at first glance--from the Weinsteins--or ANY major studio. Even an idea that made such enormous returns as LORD OF THE RINGS took forever to sell to the studios. And if it slips through the cracks--well, buy it and play it at your theater. If someone, anyone, enjoys it, then it succeeded, even if Hollywood tried to fuck it to the tune of a business model.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 2:34:18 PM CDT

    no subject

    by thead

    Ratner? Ugh, The only thing good about Red Dragon was that they tried to use parts of the book left out of Manhunter, But Manhunter is a far superior movie... PLus I pretty much love anything by Michael Mann. Didn't think Ali was that great though. Is the re-edit/director cut better?

    I do like Miami Vice though. But my favorites are Heat, and Last of the Mohicans. Collateral is up there too.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 2:40:30 PM CDT

    The first Rush Hour was kind of fun

    by thead

    Guess it felt fresh at the time, but the sequels and all the rest of Ratner's filmography is... not good.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 4:39:33 PM CDT

    search youtube for rush hour star wars

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 26, 2008 4:52:31 PM CDT

    youtube

    by thead

    hehe yeah. Maybe you need to be drunk but I found the one titled "Beer Wars" funny, which has Bob and Doug Mackenzie doing a kind of MST3K thing with starwars.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 8:38:32 PM CDT

    what the hell?

    by the milf lover

    damn... this talkback has now fallen below the stupid FCC satellite radio one... it shows that the guys are all busy on the weekend!

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  • Jul 26, 2008 9:20:25 PM CDT

    Trying to get it up...

    by thead

    the post count for this thread that is. The pregnancy test tells me I don't have the other problem

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:27:08 PM CDT

    Danny I will try to accommadate your request

    by xiphos_2

    Since I'm working overnight and well very bored at the moment.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:29:38 PM CDT

    Since I still have a few hours to kill

    by xiphos_2

    and my access to the interwebs is slow my next post will deal with Grind house.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:37:29 PM CDT

    In Re Grind House

    by xiphos_2

    Over all, I thought that Planet Terror came the closest to the spirit of the old GH flicks. The gleefull and wanton stupidy, the visible crew and equiptment, violence, faded or never were stars and some possible up and comers.Where I think both films fail was that they, in a way, cynicaly tried to capture a sprit and a sensibility that has to organically arise from its time.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:39:46 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by xiphos_2

    Did you find a copy of Vampires or Armour?

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:46:30 PM CDT

    The one thing QT got right in Death proof

    by xiphos_2

    Was his choice of vehicles for Death Proof. The Nova, Charger and Challenger. I have, sitting in a friends garage, a 440 hemi engine I rebuilt waiting to go into a 71 challenger. I also have a rebuild project waitng to go, a 70 Hemi Cuda. Don't know when that will happen.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:50:43 PM CDT

    Re Brett Ratnor

    by xiphos_2

    I don't understand the hate for this guy, he's so bland and innoccuous I couldn't get work up over his pale offerings. It's not like he's Paul What a Shit Anderson.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:56:17 PM CDT

    This is harder then I thought

    by xiphos_2

    trying to come up with ideas to stretch the thread.

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  • Jul 26, 2008 11:59:10 PM CDT

    Anybody planning on watching the olympics?

    by xiphos_2

    Since the death of the commies the Olympics have lost their luster. After all, there's not as much pleasure to be gained by beating upper slovinia as the Reds.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 12:04:04 AM CDT

    "since the death of the commies?"

    by the milf lover

    arent the olympics in china? there's your commies to beat!

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  • Jul 27, 2008 12:11:39 AM CDT

    wrong commies

    by xiphos_2

    the REAL commies are The Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics. The Asiatics are mere pretender to the commie throne.I loved watching the USA hockey team beat both the Reds and the Finns for the Gold Medal in 1980. Lately I've had no interest in the olympics.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 12:47:50 AM CDT

    yeah, olympics suck

    by the milf lover

    I'm Canadian, and we have a wheelchair female athlete in the Special Olympics named Chantal Petitclerc, and on her own she usually wins more medals than the rest of the canadian athletes combined. She is awesome and totally deserves all her glory, but its kinda pathetic in a way that she is one of our best representatives, besides the hockey and fucking curling...

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  • Jul 27, 2008 12:57:31 AM CDT

    Yeah Xi

    by chittychittygangbang

    They should be here Wednesday. I had to get paperback, but total cost was about $15.
    Looking forward to them. I'm a fast reader, so it shouldn't take long.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 1:01:00 AM CDT

    Danny did you read about...

    by chittychittygangbang

    The air pollution was so bad the soccer players were having trouble just getting through PRACTICE. Yes, you read that right.
    Yeah, communism sucks donkey shaft, but if you don't even have air fit to breathe, c'mon, please.
    There should be one location for Olympics in Greece and have it there every year.
    Sort of like the Sugar Bowl or College World Series.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 1:10:16 AM CDT

    Xiphos

    by chittychittygangbang

    I had a friend who's dad makes quite a good living and he was looking into a Plymouth Superbird.
    Talk about a good vehicle to inflict pain and destruction. I don't know why I love the shape of those cars so much.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 1:42:57 AM CDT

    watching Anaconda 3

    by chittychittygangbang

    The Hoff:"Where's there is blood, there is more blood."
    Huh?
    Is it just me or are these special effects getting worse every day?

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  • Jul 27, 2008 1:52:31 AM CDT

    Ok now the required hot chick has a...

    by chittychittygangbang

    pistol to try and find a 1,000-foot anaconda.
    Why wouldn't you have a shotgun to stand a better chance?
    These special effetcs make the first Anaconda look Oscar worthy. Dear god they are horrible.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 1:55:04 AM CDT

    Spoiler alert

    by chittychittygangbang

    The hoff is basically playing Voight's character and is trying to catch snake for profit.
    This is a very bad movie.
    Funny, but bad.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 2:19:06 AM CDT

    AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    by series7

    SON OF A BITCH!

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  • Jul 27, 2008 2:20:53 AM CDT

    Fucking DVR

    by series7

    God you have forsaken me!!!! Fucking deleting my Anaconda 3 for no apparent reason. Not full space, just fucking piece of shit DVR fucking up my Christmas. Though I've never had an issue with reality TV magically deleting itself.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:52:40 AM CDT

    Chitty

    by xiphos_2

    You will blast through both of those books fast. They're fun, light reads and damn entertaining if I do say so myself.If your friends Dad has the scratch to pull a Superbird then he should get one. They are fairly rare and appreciate in value plus, with that hugh Talladega wing they just rock and badass. Yep my neck is red. I worked on a Bird with my friend and his dad in High School. I wish I still had a piece of that one. An unrestored Bird in good condition went for somewhere over 100 large, I think, at the Barrett Jackson auction in Scottsdale last year. I fucking love the Superbird.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 4:21:28 AM CDT

    Milf Lover

    by xiphos_2

    I think I read an article about Chantel in Sports Illustrated. Its a great story, I think Rick Reilly wrote it. You left out Bob Sledding and ski jumping from your list of Canadien Olympic sports domination.I wouldn't worry about it too much, you guys got hockey, the single best spectator sport not named boxing.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 5:07:08 AM CDT

    three more posts puts us ahead of the alien TB

    by xiphos_2

    full of tin foil hat wearing fuck heads

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  • Jul 27, 2008 5:08:52 AM CDT

    OUTLANDERRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by xiphos_2

    I've been wanting to do that one for a while.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 5:10:32 AM CDT

    this should put this TB

    by xiphos_2

    Back to number 4

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  • Jul 27, 2008 5:14:17 AM CDT

    And with that......

    by xiphos_2

    I'm done lads. off to play some of that European Futbol, A dumber activity, has not as of yet, been concieved by the mind of man.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 10:54:01 AM CDT

    Wow..its going to be a somewhat difficult road to get this one b

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 27, 2008 10:56:42 AM CDT

    So, went to the Eagles concert last night..

    by jonah echo

    in D.C. Fun times with the family, but it turned into the Joe Walsh show before long. Mostly they all looked good, but their hair was another story. Tim B. Schmidt looked like Skeletor with a Cher wig.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 10:58:13 AM CDT

    Also, Joe Walsh is Jim Henson's greatest creation.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 27, 2008 11:09:55 AM CDT

    speaking of Jim Henson

    by jonah echo

    I noticed an ad on the subway for a Smithsonian exhibit called Fantastic World of Jim Henson. Looks like it is running through October at Smithsonian International Gallery. Anyone know anything about this?

    I'd love to see it.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 11:45:44 AM CDT

    A new topic and then I've got to go..

    by jonah echo

    How about this. best female villains, particularly in b-movies?

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:07:18 PM CDT

    Villainesses...

    by jonah echo

    I suppose Kathleen Turner in Monster House as Monster House counts right?

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:08:38 PM CDT

    Sissy Spacek in Carrie isnt

    by jonah echo

    necessarily a villain,but she was pretty creepy by the time she goes off..the mother is also substantially menacing

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:10:13 PM CDT

    Ever see Zelda Rubinsten in

    by jonah echo

    Aguish. That was creepy.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:11:25 PM CDT

    Samara or Sadako

    by jonah echo

    depending on your preference of version of The Ring.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:13:20 PM CDT

    ok..so is anyone still out there?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 27, 2008 3:13:50 PM CDT

    we just got thrown off the list altogether by

    by jonah echo

    the old Lost talkback.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:15:02 PM CDT

    Watched The Body Snatcher today..

    by jonah echo

    with Boris Karloff. First time in years I saw it. Anyone out there familiar with it?

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:16:18 PM CDT

    It was a pretty great little movie..

    by jonah echo

    Excellent performance by Boris as the cabby who also doubles as grave robber and murderer. The directing, the music everything is top notch.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:18:14 PM CDT

    It's also very literate and creepy

    by jonah echo

    for a horror film. The sequence where Karloff reluctantly tells his horse he is sorry to say they have to "go to work" is haunting, especially as it is followed up with him following the young street singer into the dark with his carriage and when both have dissapeared into the shadows, we hear the street singer's voice silenced by an abrupt gagging noise, as opposed to the classic scream.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:20:30 PM CDT

    Lewton was a genius..

    by jonah echo

    Each and everyone of these movies I see is excellent proof of that less is more horror mentality as far as what is shown, but there is also the more is more approach of the fact they push hard for everything to be as well done as possible. Each theme nourished and developed, every character has a purpose, even if it's rather melodramatic.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:22:40 PM CDT

    Karloff and Lugosi

    by jonah echo

    share a scene in the movie that is actually pretty sad. Lugosi is a simple stableman who is trying to blackmail the grim, and saavy Karloff. I don't know if there has ever been a more clear example of the gap between them at that point, as far as horror entrtainers go. Karloff still going strong, and Lugosi, star nearly faded.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:23:29 PM CDT

    so for anyone inclined, lets talk Lugosi

    by jonah echo

    and Karloff. Thoughts?

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:24:27 PM CDT

    Chitty - RE your Power Loader project...

    by spud mcspud

    You should see Steve Norrington's first movie, a surprisingly fun little SF movie called DEATH MACHINE. It has Brad Dourif as a half-insane (what else?) inventor of a lethal security droid that can kill anything, a group of freedom fighters who want to expose the dark deeds of an R&D defence contractor company, a seemingly impregnable fortress-type HQ patrolled by aforementioned Death Machine robot, and a sort of super-soldier thing that basically allows a character to get injected with a serum, then wears ridiculously bulky and hopelessly designed power armour with which to fight said Death Machine. Fantastic fun, and very reminiscent of Richard Stanley's HARDWARE. Definitely one to watch out for.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:47:26 PM CDT

    This TB is still kicking?

    by xiphos_2

    I figured it would have been gone by now.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 3:56:25 PM CDT

    Hey look its Karloff vs Lugosi argument

    by xiphos_2

    Now I can I roll out the classic exchange from the great Ed Wood motion picture.Bela Lugosi: Karloff? Sidekick? FUCK YOU! Karloff did not deserve to smell my shit! That limey cocksucker can rot in Hell for all I care!
    Edward D. Wood, Jr.: What happened?
    Bela Lugosi: How dare that asshole bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting

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  • Jul 27, 2008 4:09:09 PM CDT

    Yeah, this talkback may have run it's course

    by chittychittygangbang

    I have had visitors from Atlanta, plus two cookouts that lasted until the wee hours.
    I haven't been able to keep up the posting.
    Check out weather.com and type in 39773 zip code.
    I'm about to have to ride that storm out, so I may not have internet connection or power for that matter.
    If I still have power I will be in the Mad Men talkback during this season's premiere.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 4:14:05 PM CDT

    Yeah Jonah, we were Powerloader obsessed

    by chittychittygangbang

    We even painted the logos on and everything.
    In addition to creatures, I was obsessed with gaint robots and exoskeleton style weapom suits.
    Do any of you guys remember Shogun Warriors comic book?
    Boy I loved those. Still have all the copies in protective plastics bags.
    Also the killer robots in the little X-men storyline that couldn't be stopped.
    They were inside trying to stop it and all of the sudden it stopped.
    They truned around and the Beast had unplugged a random cord and was twirling it in his hand.
    Good times!

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  • Jul 27, 2008 4:49:11 PM CDT

    the breeze

    by thead

    Weather isn't bad here... Not really great either though. It's pretty windy and only partly sunny.

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  • Jul 27, 2008 10:26:21 PM CDT

    Yo

    by series7

    You guys seen the new W. trailer? Or Jumper? About to watch Jumper, W. looks like it could be more funny then boring.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:04:37 AM CDT

    So, anyone out there think we can bring this back?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 8:05:14 AM CDT

    If not, what

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 8:05:23 AM CDT

    If not, what's next?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 8:06:39 AM CDT

    Still haven't seen the new X-Files yet..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 8:08:51 AM CDT

    Chitty...about robots

    by jonah echo

    In the 80s there were a large group of cartoons dealing with people in robot suits. Do you recall something called Inhumanoids, which if I recall had people in robot suits fighting, demons maybe. It was relatively dark, I think, since I seem to remember a giant demon with a cow-like head, who actually grabbed people and placed them inside his ribcage. Now there is a property Mikey Bay could sink his teeth into.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:15:28 AM CDT

    Inhumanoids..

    by jonah echo

    Here is the wiki link for it. Wow, it was a dark and wierd show. Check it out, this is the one with the ribcage guy, whose name was D'Compose. Nice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhumanoids

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:29:53 AM CDT

    Inhumnaoids looks familiar

    by chittychittygangbang

    I think I may have seen this a very long time ago.
    Yes, this would be a very good live-action movie, but due to lack of name and marketability, I don't see them sinking a lot of moeny into it.
    But yes, Bay would dail this thing up about 10 nothces.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:33:00 AM CDT

    Jonah go to this link

    by chittychittygangbang

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogun_Warriors_%28toys %29
    We had the action figures for these and the comic book.
    I remember one of their foes was a gaint hand with dragon heads for fingers. Cool.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:51:13 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    I always liked Shogun Warriors. What was the one from early 80s with people who rode giant insects. The toys for that one were really fun.

    And, does anyone here remember Silver Hawks or Dino-saucers?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:55:58 AM CDT

    Something odd regarding Outlander..

    by jonah echo

    In the IMDB cast list, there are not only names obvious from Beowulf-Unferth and Rothgar, but also Bjorn and Boromir(I know these names would/could be common to the time and culture) but isn't that too evocative of LOTR?

    But none of that really matters since the credit list also mentions a character called Sheeshkabob. I assume most of this is just a joke on behalf of the crew? like fake shemp or something?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:58:56 AM CDT

    Jonah, that was Sectaurs I think

    by chittychittygangbang

    Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sectaurs

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:59:02 AM CDT

    Also, is there any idea of a release date for it,

    by jonah echo

    regardless of straight to video or theatrical release? I'd agree September or thereabouts could work. But as of now, when would the general public even contemplate seeing this thing?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:00:18 AM CDT

    That's it Chitty! Awesome!

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:01:14 AM CDT

    So, how was the weekend Chitty?

    by jonah echo

    See anything?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:03:29 AM CDT

    Last night I rewatched Xfiles:Fight the Future

    by jonah echo

    And I do quite enjoy the movie, but it is definitely one of those "check off the boxes, sustain the series, don't go outside the lines" endeavors. I'm still curious on the new one, and my wife and I have it on our Thursday night viewing.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:03:41 AM CDT

    The name game would be tricky

    by chittychittygangbang

    Just like you said, the names are close enough for LOTR to say 'wait a minute!'
    But also like you said those names were probably common like Mark, Brian or John nowadays.
    I wish we still did names like they did in the old days. Where you had a name and put of in front of where you were from.
    I could be Chitty Chitty Gang Bang of West Point.
    Of course it would get old signing that everytime I needed to write a check or a credit receipt.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:07:27 AM CDT

    which is to say..

    by jonah echo

    we plan to go out and see it, probably with some friends who like X-Files.

    I guess we need to wait until video release to find out if this thing will ever lead to another film. Well, as the summer winds down, I still have a full schedule of stuff to see. Tell No One and Encounters at the End of the World are on my arthouse list. Have free tickets for Mummy 3. Plans to see Kung-Fu Panda on the Imax. Transsiberian and Midnight Meat Train are on the radar, but mildly so. And if the word on Clone Wars is good enough, I might try it out.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:10:27 AM CDT

    Also, noticed Blockbuster is selling

    by jonah echo

    a decent amount of older dvds for 3.99. Picked up copies of Harvey and Dancer in the Dark. Thought of everyone here though, because littered in the bin were copies of Snakes on a Train, Pterodactyl,etc.

    So, tomorrow is Dark City: Director's Cut day. I wish there was a talback where we could discuss that. Maybe the Knowing one?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:10:36 AM CDT

    This weekend flew by

    by chittychittygangbang

    Cooked out Friday and then went to friends house (they have HD flatscreen. nice). Saturday went to gym, then watched teeny while wife and friend took in Momma Mia and did a little shopping. Was going to see TDK, but wife said we wanted to see it as well. So went to another grilling session Saturday night (Cheddarwurst are amazing).
    Sunday had relatives from Atlanta in and the big thunderstorm.
    But did get to watch Mad Men. Amazing show.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:16:39 AM CDT

    Weekend flew by here as well..

    by jonah echo

    Friday was dinner with my sis and her roomate. They did a nice mexican themed dinner, but afterwards there were fried bananas. Had never had that before. Surprisingly "meh" on the fried bananas.

    Saturday was work on the business, cleaning the house, then dinner and the Eagles concert in D.C. with my wife's parents and her brother's family.

    Sunday was pretty lowkey for us, due to being out late the night before. Did some exercising, went out for a walk and got snowballs, checked out Body Snatcher and X-Files:FTF. Got a call and update from the friend from Japan. He was giving me the rundown on the latest films over there.

    He mentioned that even the Japanese were not above mocking The Happening.

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  • with the right topic?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:20:20 AM CDT

    Favorite kills in a horror movie..This oughtta do it.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:20:56 AM CDT

    That's the beauty of the Happening

    by chittychittygangbang

    It's going to unite the world in a single voice of hatred.
    Even dogs and cats will be holding paws as they voice their outrage.
    Sham will end up looking like a genius and we will then get his self-sefving gloating on the DVD commentray.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:22:52 AM CDT

    And to start the process..

    by jonah echo

    does it get anymore bizarre than the death in the second Leprechaun movie, where the Leprechaun causes a guy to hallucinate and think that a giant fan(as in one with a rotating blade) is actually the girl he fancies, nude and as he goes to kiss her, he basically puts his face directly into the fan, and end of story.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:23:29 AM CDT

    Favorite kills hmmmm.

    by chittychittygangbang

    There are many, but I will do just one per post to stretch this thing out.
    I will start with Jason swinging that girl into the tree as she is in the sleeping bag.
    What made it better was he did it more than once, but they cut that out once it was released onto tv/dvd.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:25:38 AM CDT

    And with ludicrous kills on the menu..

    by jonah echo

    pick your fave Happening moment:

    SPOILER

    ...as if the movie existing isn't spoiler enough..

    the people leaping off the building and just slamming down like big fat, meaty rain was my fave.

    though the part where some unseen person with a shotgun blasts spencer breslin in the brain was good stuff too.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:26:56 AM CDT

    Lecter stringing the detective up

    by chittychittygangbang

    Using the rope and then cutting his lower ab open to allow his entrails to fly out when the rope's slack gave out.
    Beautiful and grotesque at the same time.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:26:58 AM CDT

    And we just edged back on to the list!

    by jonah echo

    and to add a kill: the pygmy mummies jummping up and down on the head of the guys mired in the mud in Mummy Returns.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:28:40 AM CDT

    The Happening Meat Shower

    by chittychittygangbang

    Now you know what Hepburn felt like as she sttod on her balcony and Hughes and Brimley flew over with the hookers!Ha!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:29:33 AM CDT

    Prophecy..the meatloaf bear one..

    by jonah echo

    had a sleeping bag scene, where this family was camping, and Meatloaf bear ambles up and eats the sis and the father(when father screams you see his cavities and bad dental work) and then the little boy, in his bright yellow sleeping bag, gets up in the sleeping bag, looks back at the bear and starts to hop,STANDING UP, in the sleeping bag. The bear looks over at this hopping banana, and bats the kid with his paw, and you just see the kid in yellow sleeping bag fly across the campsite and EXPLODE against a rock in a flurry of feathers.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:29:53 AM CDT

    The Blob

    by chittychittygangbang

    The Blob sucking that guy down the drain in the remake. Funny.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:31:12 AM CDT

    Andy Serkis getting his head eaten..

    by jonah echo

    by that disgusting worm thing in King Kong.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:32:16 AM CDT

    Maximum Overdrive

    by chittychittygangbang

    The canned drink machine killing the guy with 12 oz bullets.
    Or the steam roller going over the guy in that yard.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:33:24 AM CDT

    Ayre Gross blowing the head off

    by jonah echo

    Slim Reazer in House 2, bit by bit by bit, until there was just a little gristly nub sitting on the stalk of his decayed neck. Pretty grotesque for a PG-13 movie. Ahhh, the 80s.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:33:37 AM CDT

    The Fly part two

    by chittychittygangbang

    When that security guard/hired goon gets his head caught by the dropping elevator.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:34:43 AM CDT

    Critters 2..

    by jonah echo

    when the critter rolls through the yard, and jumps into the open trousers of the guy in the Easter Bunny costume.Major chewage ensues.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:35:35 AM CDT

    Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake

    by chittychittygangbang

    Where he hangs that guy up on chandelier and then cuts up from the crotch up WITH A CHAINSAW!
    Good God that must have hurt.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:37:12 AM CDT

    the entire opening sequence

    by jonah echo

    of Santa's Slay, with Santa hitting Rebecca Gayheart with a chair leg, choking James Caan with a turkey leg, kicking chris kataan, and setting fran dresher's head on fire, and then drowning her in the egg nog, and topping it all off by throwing the christmas tree star like a weapon, and nailing a fleeing victim in the back.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:37:23 AM CDT

    Was it Beastmaster when..

    by chittychittygangbang

    They had the guy tied to the horses and they pulled him apart?
    That was pretty intense as a kid.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:38:34 AM CDT

    Santa's Slay

    by jonah echo

    when he decides to pin Saul Rubinek to the wall in his own deli with a menorrah through the neck. MESSED.UP.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:39:34 AM CDT

    Gremlins

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Billy's mom threw the one in the microwave, turned it on and kept fighting the other ones.
    I loved how it just popped in there.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:39:42 AM CDT

    Beastmaster also had the awesome deaths..

    by jonah echo

    of those who encountered those humanoid bat creatures, who would slurp you up in their membranous wings and digest you.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:41:30 AM CDT

    The Relic

    by jonah echo

    when one of the S.W.A.T. team drops through the cieling of the museum, falls and you see the shadowy monster chase him down from behind, grab him, wrap it's pincers around his neck and then slowly remove the head, and drop the body, all in one shot, that has the guy in the foreground and the monster in the background, racing after him.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:41:43 AM CDT

    The Mummy

    by chittychittygangbang

    When the guy is eaten from the inside when the bugs burrow in under his skin.
    Funny, but that would be a lousy way to check out.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:43:21 AM CDT

    The melting of the undead servant..

    by jonah echo

    in Fright Night. Now that was GOOPY.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:43:54 AM CDT

    When Jason killed girl in her kitchen

    by chittychittygangbang

    He didn't just stab her with ice pick.
    He slowly eased it into her head. Well played.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:45:05 AM CDT

    Evil Ed's death scene..

    by jonah echo

    which actually was rather disturbing, with him laying under the stairs, half-wolf, crying with that stair railing jutting from his chest.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:45:40 AM CDT

    Predator

    by chittychittygangbang

    Arnold turned and threw the knife through the guy and said "Stick Around"
    Classic.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:48:05 AM CDT

    Didn't Evil Ed

    by chittychittygangbang

    say something to Charlie at the end of the movie? It come from the other house right before the credits rolled?
    I wished he would have been the second one, or the main villian in a third.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:48:25 AM CDT

    Wrong Turn

    by jonah echo

    when one of the billies throws a hatchet and it cuts the woman's body off under her top jaw, leaving the top part of the head sitting on the hatchet against the tree.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:49:46 AM CDT

    Freddy Kruger

    by chittychittygangbang

    We could have a whole talkback just on these kills.
    But when the guy was on the motorcycle and started being interwoven into it...wow.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:50:11 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    Ed's eyes appear, read and glowing, in Dandridge's house across the street, and you hear the line "Brewster, you're so cool." followed by the Ed laugh.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:51:53 AM CDT

    Also, Evil Ed was brought back..

    by jonah echo

    in Fright Night the comic book, which did a two-parter involving Ed coming back, running a night club I think, surrounding himself with vampire women and then systematically disgracing both Peter and Charlie, before attempting to kill them.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:52:48 AM CDT

    Lost Boys

    by jonah echo

    death by stereo!!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:53:37 AM CDT

    the end of Near Dark

    by jonah echo

    with the vampires driving across the plain, burning as they drive.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:54:29 AM CDT

    Fright Night 2

    by jonah echo

    where they cut open the guy who ate bugs, and all the bugs come spilling out, between the slashes.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:55:04 AM CDT

    13 Ghosts

    by chittychittygangbang

    When glass shuts and cuts someone into two perfect halves.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:55:42 AM CDT

    Cat's Eye

    by jonah echo

    little troll flying into the fan.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:56:21 AM CDT

    good one chitty..was just thinking 13 ghosts.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:58:23 AM CDT

    Deep Rising..

    by jonah echo

    when monster throws up partially digested person..

    also, Wes Studi's death, where Kevin O'Connor gives him the gun, to ease his passing, and he, thinking he has two bullets, takes a shot at O'Connor, who gets pissed and runs off, and Studi realizes there was only one bullet and he used it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:59:19 AM CDT

    anyone in movie piranha

    by chittychittygangbang

    thousands of little fish chewing up alive. That can't feel good, as you will stay alive through half of it. Or drown while being eaten.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:59:55 AM CDT

    Troll 2..

    by jonah echo

    death by popcorn!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:01:14 AM CDT

    the tentacles carrying off the bagboy..

    by jonah echo

    in The Mist.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:01:55 AM CDT

    the computer cubing it's victim

    by jonah echo

    in Resident Evil.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:02:00 AM CDT

    Anaconda

    by chittychittygangbang

    When he spits up Voight and he winks at Lopez. No doubt he was just a meat sack as anaconda crushed most of his bones.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:02:46 AM CDT

    Nice to be back on the charts

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I was going through all the top TBs this morning to see where the gang was. Nothing but vemon over our idiot president and daddy issues in T2.So Jonah, I've got most of your kit together although I have a couple more movies I'm trying to include but with my dad visiting from out of town I don't have time to get everything burned. I hope to finish up tonight and get it in the mail to you tomorrow.I watched Doomsday over the weekend and that movie was freakin' nuts. Part Mad Max, part 28 Days Later, part Gladiator, it was all over the map. Still, it was entertaining and worth watching again with more liquor.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:03:57 AM CDT

    Demon Knight

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Billy Zane pucnhes through the sheriff's head and it trying to shake his hand out of it.
    Love Zane in that movie. Actually liked all of the characters in that movie.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:05:52 AM CDT

    I Spit on your Grave

    by chittychittygangbang

    When the girl cuts off that guy's...nevermind, I'm hurting just thinking about it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:07:09 AM CDT

    Cloverfield vs. HUD

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Cloverfield beast bites Hud in half. Even if he is still alive, he gets to fall to his death.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:08:24 AM CDT

    Marlana in Cloverfield

    by chittychittygangbang

    When she just popped and her guts went everywhere. If you listen closely just can hear her gargle and stretch before exploding.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:14:24 AM CDT

    You guys are amazing

    by toadkillerdog

    I mostly just peruse this TB, because I know when I am out of my league regarding B movie knowlegde

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:18:43 AM CDT

    Jonah, did you see X-Files?

    by toadkillerdog

    I spent the weekend riding my bike and re-watching the best superhero movies in order to re-evaluate my list. So far, Zoom is not making the cut!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:19:37 AM CDT

    Ticks...when Carlton from Fresh Prince

    by jonah echo

    actually has his body, pulled apart from inside by the gestting Uber Tick.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:21:09 AM CDT

    Toadkiller..

    by jonah echo

    not yet. We were going to go yesterday, but the wife was tired after being out until 3 a.m. the night before, so we canceled it until Thursday night, when we can go with some friends. The bad reviews haven't affected me any, but it is unfortunate that this might put a dent on any future Files stuff.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:22:21 AM CDT

    Silver Bullet

    by chittychittygangbang

    When the werewolves rips that girl apart for getting pregnant and wanting to get rid of the baby.
    I just remember the claw going across her skin again and again.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:23:38 AM CDT

    Not a kill but...

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Gage Creed cuts the old man's tendon on the back of his heel.
    I had to wince at that one.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:24:23 AM CDT

    Miike's Happiness of the Katakuris.

    by jonah echo

    when the crazy sailor guy dies from a combo of dyssentery, a battle with Grandpa Katakuri, and being thrown off a cliff, only to drag his way back to the house, and then die.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:26:03 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    Thanks so much for that. I appreciate it.

    Did you enjoy your anniversary?

    Also, thanks for the Doomsday recommendation.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:27:42 AM CDT

    chitty..the pet semetary thing was rough.

    by jonah echo

    as was Graham Green(the native american actor, not the author) "debarking" the guy's leg in Clear Cut.Again, not a kill, but "yeeech-oo!"

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:28:39 AM CDT

    Hellraiser three

    by chittychittygangbang

    When that chick has her skin pulled off by the chains with hooks on them. Right after she got screwed by that guy that owned the bar.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:30:22 AM CDT

    Silver Bullet also had..

    by jonah echo

    the funniest death being the scene where the angry mob encounter the werewolf in a misty bog, and you hear confusion and ripping. You see a human arm raise up this big paddle/bat thing(it had a name, like the enforcer or soemthing, it was the bartender's) and bring it down, presumably on the werewolf. Then you hear screaming, and the bat comes back up out of the mist, but this time it's being held by a hairy arm and paw, and then the werewolf starts beating the humans with it. Priceless.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:32:25 AM CDT

    Deadly Friend...when Ma Fratelli

    by jonah echo

    had her head completely demolished by the basketball that Kristy Swanson threw at her face.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:33:20 AM CDT

    That bat was the Peacemaker

    by chittychittygangbang

    Loved that movie. That dream sequence in the church was trippy.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:34:28 AM CDT

    Nightbreed..

    by jonah echo

    with the porcupine girl who threw quills at people and killed them. or the guy with the snake's on his back that would go for the soft parts of your face.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:35:31 AM CDT

    Scanners..

    by jonah echo

    head 'splosion.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:36:43 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Anniversary was OK. Had to bring our daughter with us everywhere we went.Doomsday is insanity. It's just so over the top. A guy with a mohawk dancing around to Fine Young Cannibals bookended by women on stripper poles to a crowd of uber punks in a post-apocalyptic Glasgow was priceless.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:37:11 AM CDT

    Death Proof

    by jonah echo

    back wheel to the face.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:40:22 AM CDT

    Dreamscape when the villain

    by jonah echo

    uses the Freddy glove-like demon fingers to remove a guy's heart.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:40:29 AM CDT

    Halloween:season of the witch

    by chittychittygangbang

    When that guy gets fingers into his eyes (slowly) in the hospital bed.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:42:12 AM CDT

    Ghoulies 2

    by jonah echo

    goblin phlegm plastered all over couple making out. don't know if they died, but Im sure their pride did.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:45:57 AM CDT

    Se7en

    by chittychittygangbang

    When John Doe makes that guy stab the hooker through her vagina with the giant knife dildo strap-on.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:49:32 AM CDT

    Main Villian in Total Recall

    by chittychittygangbang

    Getting decrompessed is a rough way to go out. I think the eyes bulging out is what made it classic.
    I can see Arnold making that face like he did on Mar's surface when issues arise that piss him off as Gov. of California.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:50:03 AM CDT

    So. now that some of us are back together...

    by jonah echo

    any new topics, or plans for revving up the talkback. I think there might be plenty to talk about, geek wise as we go through the week. Drew's ep is this week, Dark City:DC and Doomsday both release this week, and Mummy 3 opens this weekend.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:55:07 AM CDT

    Wow back to second place

    by chittychittygangbang

    I didn't think this TB could get back up. It was on life support yesterday.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:55:41 AM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    I suggested the topic of best kills in horror, and with the help of Chitty, we ramped it back, and then the old familiars came out. Let's see if we can't keep it on here for at least the week. There's plenty to talk about.

    See anything good this weekend Danny?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:57:22 AM CDT

    It was Deepstar Six..

    by jonah echo

    and for that film, didnt Miguel Ferrer accidentally harpoon someone?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:58:46 AM CDT

    and to give Drew his props..

    by jonah echo

    how about Udo Kier feeding his own intestines into the film projector in Cigarette Burns.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:01:25 AM CDT

    Food of the Gods 2,

    by jonah echo

    when the growth formula was used on cancer, and this guy contracted cancer, and was overcome by the growth in a matter of minutes, and then it was a massive tumorous glop on the floor, until the hero dropped the antidote on it, which halted it's growth and killed it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:01:40 AM CDT

    Yes, Danny I'm pretty sure

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was Deep Star Six. And as a scuba diver I have heard from others that it is a VERY painful way to go out.
    For example, compressed air will expand as you get near the surface due to less water pressure per square inch.
    We had an empty metal box turned upside down in a freshwater spring everyone dove in Florida. So you could take your mask off and talk at about 30 feet under water in the upside down box. Kinda of cool.
    But when you took your mask off, compressed air was seeping into the box. Not a problem once you put mask back on and swam away.
    But...some guy dove in without gear and just held his breathe and made it down to the box. He takes a few deep breaths to go back up, but didn't know the box was full of compressed air. As he held his breath on the way up, the air expanded and he didn't breathe out slowly like you should.
    Let's just say he left the area in a medic van and I can't remember if he lived or not.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:07:59 AM CDT

    Danny

    by jonah echo

    I thought of you when I perused the 3.99 bin at Blockbuster this weekend. I got Dancer in the Dark and Harvey, but saw all the low budget stuff sitting in there, beckoning.Pterodactyl and Snake Man and so on and so forth.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:07:59 AM CDT

    Danny

    by jonah echo

    I thought of you when I perused the 3.99 bin at Blockbuster this weekend. I got Dancer in the Dark and Harvey, but saw all the low budget stuff sitting in there, beckoning.Pterodactyl and Snake Man and so on and so forth.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:09:13 AM CDT

    something is wrong with m computer..

    by jonah echo

    or something. That's the second botched post of the morning.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:09:46 AM CDT

    Hmm, There was an Alien movie, 4 or 5 i don't recall

    by toadkillerdog

    It was when the bastard hybrid son of Sigourney - who had a serious mommy complex, got his guts and everything else sucked out into vacuum through a tiny hole in ship. That was pretty cool.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:10:41 AM CDT

    It's not a horror film

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But in Last Boy Scout when Taylor Negron gets shot repeatedly and then falls into the helicopter blades, at the time that was about as violent as it got.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:13:21 AM CDT

    good one toad..

    by jonah echo

    that was nauseating. Even more so the loathsome design of the hybrid son. Gross all around. And hearing to whimper and then shriek. Uggh.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:13:41 AM CDT

    Gene Simmons and Tom Selleck - grenade in mouth

    by toadkillerdog

    Can't recall the movie. I could do an imbd, but that is cheating. Oh, well, i will cheat.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:15:24 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    It really was a sickening thing, the design of the kid was putrid. But the weird thing, was you kind of felt sorry for him. He loved his mommy!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:17:53 AM CDT

    Dawn of the dead - Romero version

    by toadkillerdog

    Just about any scene!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:18:33 AM CDT

    Danny

    by jonah echo

    Yea, you mentioned snakeman and that's why I thought of you when I saw the others. My wife just rolled her eyes at them, and I didn't discourage her, since technically, she is right.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:19:24 AM CDT

    toad

    by jonah echo

    it's Runaway.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:21:15 AM CDT

    DOES ANYONE KNOW IF MORI...

    by thekylegassproject

    ...has heard anything back from the harvey camp yet?

    a "fuck you"

    a "who is this, again?"

    a "i'll see what i can do."

    anything?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:23:29 AM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    I did too. It was kind of sad. That is pretty damn good filmaking right there though. Thanks Jonah.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:24:05 AM CDT

    ok..need some confirmation on a mystery b movie..

    by jonah echo

    My friend in Japan was on the phone last night, and he brought up a lost film from his childhood, but he remembered only a single scene. A woman hears noises, and wanders into a cave(he seemed to remember her being Jane Fonda-esque) and she hears things, sees cave painting and sees shadows on the cave walls, and then is snatched up.

    Now, the first movie that came to my mind was the B 80s flick, What Waits Below. Anyone else have a confirmation, or other suggestions as to the mystery pic?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:24:58 AM CDT

    DANNY's DICKBLOOD

    by thekylegassproject

    Seconded on jason goes to hell!

    oh man, can you imagine, getting rode like a mechanical bull and then...*shunk* *split*

    fucking brutal...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:26:52 AM CDT

    one of my fave Romero kills...

    by thekylegassproject

    DAY...SHOVEL!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:27:20 AM CDT

    Anaconda 3 was on Sci-Fi

    by chittychittygangbang

    It amazes me how the effects seem to get worse.
    There was a scene where the snakes went across a grassy hill behind some mother and her kid.
    Looked very bad and effects just got worse as it went along.
    I mean you can almost see the pixals during the close-up of the snakes.
    Also chick choose to use a pistol. A Pistol! I would have at least 12-gauge to scatter more pellets at snakes. I guess it wouldn't matter though, as bullets just seemed to annoy them.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:27:29 AM CDT

    Danny...good mention...

    by jonah echo

    that was only bright spot in that movie.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:27:40 AM CDT

    OMFG GHOST SHIP

    by thekylegassproject

    i flipped my shit on that one! hahaha

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:28:55 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    I know this is not right but there is a scene like that in Invasion of the Body Snatchers - the original one that is. But that is too old. I am still thinking...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:29:31 AM CDT

    Brain Dead, Dead Alive...

    by thekylegassproject

    That whole film...was an awesome kill...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:29:37 AM CDT

    Chitty...that is nothing..

    by jonah echo

    In What Wait's Below (mentioned above) some guy is attacked by some kind of cave snake, and he has a gun, but the snake starts trying to kill him , he does nothing but hit it in the head with said gun.

    And then, finally...There is an Anaconda 3? Straight to Sci-Fi I assume?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:31:34 AM CDT

    kyle..right on with Dead Alive..

    by jonah echo

    you put it well.that whole movie was a kill.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:31:41 AM CDT

    YES!

    by thekylegassproject

    I vividly remember the heart-eating. But it's been awhile, doesn't Jason's spirit...blob, enter someone else via vagina?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:33:37 AM CDT

    Chitty, was Ben Cross in it?

    by toadkillerdog

    He does every Sci-Fi flick these days. Jonah, I have an idea for a new topic. Name the actors that have fallen the farthest and taken up roles in utter schlock. Ben Cross is one.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:33:56 AM CDT

    Curse 2

    by jonah echo

    when snakeman vomits all of his internal organs up all over the hood of his girlfriend's car. Good stuff.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:35:07 AM CDT

    ooo...toadkiller...

    by thekylegassproject

    everyone take a moment of silence for tom sizemore...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:37:35 AM CDT

    Hardest fallen actors..

    by jonah echo

    Not like he had far to go to start with, but lets just put Busey out there right up front.

    Ben Cross though is a good, and unfortunate example.

    And the person with the most immediate expungement from the public's good graces: Chevy Chase. I think you can almost track this guy's ruin to a specific day and time(without him having done one heinous thing to deserve it).

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:38:30 AM CDT

    Jason 9

    by jonah echo

    yes, Jason in lizard form wriggled right in.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:40:01 AM CDT

    Kingsley...but wait..

    by jonah echo

    Kingsley is wierd in the fact that while he is stuff like Bloodrayne, Sound of Thunder, Species and Love Guru, he is still simultaneously making great films. Now there is a guy for discussion.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:40:07 AM CDT

    thekylegassproject

    by toadkillerdog

    Tom Sizemore - good call.
    Busey had his heyday - waaay back when he did the Buddy Holly story. Ben Kinglsey was/still is in danger or falling.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:40:59 AM CDT

    not actors..but directors..

    by jonah echo

    Tobe Hooper and John Landis. Dear goodness, what happened?????

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:41:04 AM CDT

    Jason enter vagina.

    by thekylegassproject

    i really seem to remember that the very John Carpenter-esque worm-blob thing leaves one body and there's a chick on the floor and there is like a crash-zoom to between her open legs and then she is jason. i swear i remember that... i think... haha

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:42:39 AM CDT

    Jeff Goldblum

    by jonah echo

    your carefree late 90s days as "weird guy next to the fx" are gone.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:43:39 AM CDT

    yeah, kingsley's been worrying me for awhile

    by thekylegassproject

    what do you'uns think of this THE WACKNESS business?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:43:57 AM CDT

    Christopher Lloyd

    by jonah echo

    so very, very far...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:44:00 AM CDT

    Damn Jonah, we hit on Kinglsey at same time!

    by toadkillerdog

    Ok, this is hoping in the waay back machine, but remember Ray Milland? Or howsa bout Bela and his Ed Wood days? But I think of more recent vintage, Wesley Snipes. Steve Seagal. Hm, not low enough you say?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:44:47 AM CDT

    anyone with Carradine as their last name.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 11:45:11 AM CDT

    or Sheen for that matter

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 11:45:24 AM CDT

    Didn't see Ben Cross through haze of beer

    by chittychittygangbang

    But Anaconda 3 had honest-to-god John Rhys-Davies in it!
    Talk about fall from grace.
    By the way, I looked him up on imdb to get his name spelled correctly and this guy has been in every movie ever made. Jesus.
    By the way, his bio also showed a credit for Anaconda 4 in post production.
    Sigh...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:45:33 AM CDT

    Ben Kingsley

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was amazing in You Kill Me and Sexy Beast. He still has it. Just pretend Bloodrayne didn't happen.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:45:57 AM CDT

    Mira Sorvino..

    by jonah echo

    we barely knew you.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:47:23 AM CDT

    The ENTIRE cast of The Breakfast Club..

    by jonah echo

    think about it. You know it's true.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:47:57 AM CDT

    Peter Weller

    by toadkillerdog

    Sharon Stone - who will never work in China again

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:48:34 AM CDT

    Emilio Estevez speaking of sheen

    by thekylegassproject

    brat pack stuff, young guns and the outsiders to the mighty ducks. hmmm...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:50:43 AM CDT

    Uh, what about John Hughes?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Has he done anything worth much lately?
    Everyone says Curley Sue did him in, but I say he can make it back.
    Damn he ruled the 80's.
    It's hard picking a favorite

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:50:54 AM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    Kingsley has still got it, and probably always will, but that makes the Bloodraynes and Sound of Thunders and Love Gurus all the more mystifying. He CHOOSES to be in them. Spielberg offers him a role, and he chooses BOLL!! It must have been a bet he made with Michael Caine or something.

    "Benny,remember when we made Without a Clue together? What was that about?"

    Come now, Mikey, leave it alone. Afterall, Jaws 4?"

    "Ben, there is no greater test of oneself that choosing to star in crap. You can do that. You can make the choice no one else can make. You can be the outcast. Make Bloodrayne, Benny."

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:51:13 AM CDT

    Breakfast Club

    by toadkillerdog

    That in a very guilty pleasure of mine. I love it. Which reminds me, entire cast of St. Elmos Fire

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:52:22 AM CDT

    yeah, Jonah...

    by thekylegassproject

    you're right...

    didn't see that post when i posted my estevez bit.

    and Molly. sweet, sweet Molly. i loved her.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:53:19 AM CDT

    Chris Sarandon..

    by jonah echo

    I know he was never very popular, but with two great villain roles in Fright Night and Princess Bride, I expected him to stick around as a character actor, but BLAMMO!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:53:23 AM CDT

    Joe Piscopo

    by toadkillerdog

    And didn't he do a horror type movie?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:54:35 AM CDT

    Peter Fonda

    by jonah echo

    he even crapped out his potential comeback with Ulee's Gold. The movie was fine, but after that...NUUUTHIN.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:54:55 AM CDT

    gonna go get a bite for lunch.

    by thekylegassproject

    but i'd like to join this TB when i get back. been watchin you all go for awhile... it's a good one!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:57:17 AM CDT

    Add Mira Sorvino to the list of Oscar winners

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Who just dropped off the face of the earth. Makes you wonder if they deserved to win in the first place. Jennifer Hudson, Geena Davis, Halle Berry, Cuba Gooding and Anna Pacquin? Good lord.And whatever happened to F. Murray Abraham?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:57:54 AM CDT

    Favorite Hughes direction top 5

    by chittychittygangbang

    1: Christmas Vacation
    2: Uncle Buck
    3: Planes, Trains & Automobiles
    4: Ferris Bueller's Day Off
    5: The Breakfast Club

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:58:06 AM CDT

    Toad..Piscopo did

    by jonah echo

    Dead Heat. With Vincent Price.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:00:23 PM CDT

    Rae Dawn Chong

    by toadkillerdog

    And her husband, brotehr and father. Not to mention Cheech and Don Johnson

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:00:32 PM CDT

    Poor Gina and F. Murray.

    by jonah echo

    So sad. Anyone notice that Chris Nolan seems to be utilizing the batman flicks as a rehab for has-been character actors. Hauer, Roberts,Hall.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:02:42 PM CDT

    for many years..Chris Lee

    by jonah echo

    until Burton,Jackson and Lucas came along and dug him out and woke him up. Anywho doubt this, look upon Police Academy:Mission to Moscow.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:05:56 PM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    you get the feeling that Kingsley and Boll are probably friends, and find all of this very very funny.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:13:40 PM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Just sent you an e-mail.Bicentennial Man is a great movie. It always makes me feel better about the world.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:20:08 PM CDT

    Uwe Boll is flat out insane

    by hawaiian organ donor

    He might be a riot to have a beer with though. And I want to hate the guy but frankly he's doing what any one of us would give a testicle to do (in my case both I guess since I don't need them anymore).

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:26:19 PM CDT

    Dannyglovers_Dickblood

    by bobo_vision

    I don't know if you saw this, someone posted it in another thread, but apparently Judd Apatow mentioned you by name at Comic-con. This is pretty funny. http://www.themovieblog.com/20 08/07/kevin-smith-judd-apatow- zach-snyder-and-frank-miller-c omic-con-panel

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:35:38 PM CDT

    I can't see that Bobo..

    by jonah echo

    what did they say basically?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:38:38 PM CDT

    Ok. here comes the Wolvering TB/

    by jonah echo

    Can't compete against that, but gotta be someway to overthrow the doofy Bush thread.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:42:52 PM CDT

    Hah..between that and getting qouted by

    by jonah echo

    CHUD, you are quite infamous.

    Maybe I should change my handle to The Haunted Caverns of Kathy Bates or something like that.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:45:53 PM CDT

    I may be wrong in declaring myself the angriest man in America

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Danny seems to hate everyone.I'll watch it when I get home but I wouldn't be surprised if Apatow said he's found the subject of his next film, "The Angriest Man Alive."

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:46:07 PM CDT

    New topic...favorite ghost stories..

    by jonah echo

    both filmed and otherwise?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:46:49 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by bobo_vision

    Its in the Friday the 13th talkback

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:48:57 PM CDT

    that is one hellavuh handle danny...

    by thekylegassproject

    may i ask the origin?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:51:45 PM CDT

    not to state the obvious...

    by thekylegassproject

    ...but i saw POLTERGEIST at a very impressionable age and it scared the FUCK out of me.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:52:05 PM CDT

    I always enjoyed Lady in White

    by jonah echo

    with Lucas Haas. Ever see it? Katherine Helmond was also in it. It's a pretty terrific little movie, dealing with a young boy and the ghost he meets in the school cloakroom. The movie had AWESOME atmosphere, and made great use of those horror standbys like the darkened, abandoned building, the creepy shack, and the lonely cliff overlooking the sea.

    With some great acting, and a nostalgia laced script with autumn infused cinematography, it's a hard to beat ghost story.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:53:57 PM CDT

    Jonah. I will check that out.

    by thekylegassproject

    Not familiar with LADY IN WHITE but i dig lucas haas.

    what did you think of THE OTHERS?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:56:19 PM CDT

    Great thing about Poltergeist..

    by jonah echo

    is that the rule with ghost stories is usually that atmosphere, tension and understated scares are the way to go. But Poltergeist was big, huge and slathered in special effects, but it was so good and effective. And the most haunting parts are still the small, technically primitive scenes-Tangina telling the story about "the beast", little boy being choked by his clown,hearing the Carol Ann's voice through the tv. static.

    Just a great movie, and actually something of a fluke when you think of how often big budget horror goes wrong(especially ghost stories).

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  • Jul 28, 2008 12:56:39 PM CDT

    I alwasy expected to see more of Lucas Haas after Mars Attacks

    by hawaiian organ donor

    He went nowhere but Portman made the big time. Go figure.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:00:07 PM CDT

    The Others is great..though it's ALL atmosphere.

    by jonah echo

    The house in that film is such a great movie space, and those are such creepy children, and the house staff so mysterious and sinister, and Kidman so on the edge of crazy, and then adding in the fog that surrounds the house and you could have the flimsiest excuse for a plot imaginable and the movie will still suceeed. Just so happens the plot isn't terribly flimsy, but there isn't much to it, and it has an obvious secret that all the elements guard very well. I love The Others, and watch it every Halloween. I don't think of it as so much a great story, as I do a great walk through a haunted house.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:01:48 PM CDT

    You must be pissed, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Shia driving drunk, flips his car and doesn't die a horrible death. Did you not offer up enough goat's blood to the dark lord?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:04:54 PM CDT

    The Innocents

    by jonah echo

    For anyone who loves The Others, it is IMPERATIVE that you immediately find and watch The Innocents. It is such a terrific and foreboding movie,based on Henry James The Turn of the Screw and starring Deborah Kerr. She is a governess watching two precocious and at times sinister children. The kids in The Others seem like the Little Rascals in comparison. Innocents is a Jack Clayton movie(who went on to do Something Wicked this Way Comes) and it is amazing. The absolute creepiness of that whole thing lasts for the entire time. It's a superior movie to The Others, IMO, but it goes in a slightly different direction. The creepiest scene involves the young boy singing a strange, mournful song by candlelight, looking out the window as if searching for the deceased stableman.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:06:46 PM CDT

    jonah...

    by thekylegassproject

    yeah. and the scant use of score worked for me as a tool to drive the atmosphere.

    one of the better ghost stories in the last decade for sure...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:07:21 PM CDT

    WOAH!

    by thekylegassproject

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BEEF?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:08:41 PM CDT

    NEVERMIND

    by thekylegassproject

    got it...

    wow...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:11:47 PM CDT

    Ghost Story

    by jonah echo

    Now this was one that always bothered me as a kid. It was often played on television, and I was allowed to watch it, despite the erotic overtones because it was edited. This one featured a whole cast of old Hollywood greats in it, and it's story was simplicity itself. A group of men all bound to silence by a fateful secret, and then the secret comes back, looking like Alice Krige. Alice Krige circa 1981.

    The men: Fred Astaire. Melvyn Douglass. Douglas Fairbanks Jr. John Houseman.

    A good movie. I reccomend it. And the ghost women is equal parts alluring, and frightening.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:14:45 PM CDT

    yes, Danny that's the one..

    by jonah echo

    it was remade recently called In A Dark Place or some such nonesense. I didnt' see it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:16:37 PM CDT

    Hello Jonah Echo

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred is pleased to see you and DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD, and toadkilelrdog, and Hawaiian Organ Donor. Fred does not know the other people, but Fred thinks they are ok folks.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:17:59 PM CDT

    Has anyone seen The Orphanage?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Wondering if I should queue it.The Dubya TB is why people go postal. The ignorance some people display makes my anus speak in tongues.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:19:34 PM CDT

    The Haunting...the Wise version.

    by jonah echo

    I didn't terribly mind the Jan De Bont version, but the fx were all wrong for the movie. CGI ghosts are terribly lame and non-threatening. The star of the 99 Haunting is Eugenio Zanetti's production design. Now, that is a lavish haunted house. And the chimney flu-impressive. Lili Taylor was perfect. Everything else not so much.

    BUT the 1963 Robert Wise movie is just awesome. It's a perfectly pitched horror movie, and it rides the line of "real ghosts or imagination" so well that the tension never fades but neither do the suspicions. For my money, that movie goes beyond horror altogether and starts to really establish a psychological space.That's a pretty big thing for a movie to do when they are limited to the visual as their tools.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:20:00 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred has read that you are becoming famous. Fred hopes you will not forget the little people like Fred when you go off to hollywoodland.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:20:34 PM CDT

    Fred!!

    by jonah echo

    I was wondering where you had gone. All is well, I hope?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:22:10 PM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred would pay money to see anyone's anus speak in tongues - besides Jim Carreys that is - or Kathy Bates.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:23:38 PM CDT

    The Orphanage..

    by jonah echo

    I don't want to hype it HOD. I really dont, but you know what..

    It was really a great movie. There were moments there that reminded me of Hitchcock, and some later that reminded of Spielberg.And while the movie is intense, it does something that few of the ones mentiond above do, it's actually moving and touching. I was wiping tears from my eyes by the end, and it's quite scary as well in places.

    It sits a cut above most ghost stories because of the story at it's center. It's fantastic. At least to me.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:24:32 PM CDT

    Saw In The Cut on HBO late one night

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I remember nothing about it. So what does that tell you.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:25:10 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    All is well, but Fred has to lay lo as opposed to laying LiLo - hee hee, Fred make a funny! Anyway, Fred has to lay low because Fred's boss became irritated with Fred over lack of production during work hours. He is gone for three whole days though so Fred will be around a little more this week.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:26:25 PM CDT

    The Changeling

    by jonah echo

    I LOVE the Changeling. It's like a high concept pitch. What if George C. Scott had to go up against ghosts. A grumpy widower vs. the sad, vengeful ghost of a young boy. It's all atmosphere and Scott screaming loudly at the ghosts. One of the few films where I imagine the human was intimdating the ghosts.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:27:34 PM CDT

    HOD: El Orfanato -

    by thekylegassproject

    I feel like it's greatest achievement was in crafting suspense. wasn't perfect by any stretch. it's worth queing. it's an honest GHOST story. and there's a great scene involving a spanish children's game that is just plain neat.

    guillermo signed off on it so...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:27:36 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    You are a true blue friend. Fred is honored deep down in Freds little heart to share cyber space keystrokes with you.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:29:17 PM CDT

    Wind Chill

    by jonah echo

    O.k. It's nothing spectacular, but it works. And when it is working, it really works. Had a Jack London feel to it's isolated, middle of nowhere setting and the battle between specters and the threat of freezing to death. If you see it for nothing else, it's a showcase for Emily Blunt. The story isnt great and the movie isnt 100% successful, but I'd say there is some genuinely good stuff in it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:31:44 PM CDT

    The Devil's Backbone

    by jonah echo

    If you haven't seen it. See It. If you have seen it, then you know it's one of the absolute best ghost stories ever made.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:32:31 PM CDT

    caught Invisible Target the other night Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    Good flick, my only complaint is the "replay" of an action scene that was rampant throughout, but other than that...solid action movie. I think I still prefer the Kill Zone cause of Donnie.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:32:42 PM CDT

    Danny..at least queue some of the stuff..

    by jonah echo

    I'm suggesting. I think you will be pleased.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:33:17 PM CDT

    sorry for breaking the horror love...please conitnue on

    by just pillow talk

    nothing to see here...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:36:12 PM CDT

    DICKBLOOD is Famous

    by finky089

    if, only, for a brief moment in time at SDCC. Congrats anyway, dude, on having Judd Apatow remember your handle. It's good you never gave any serious consideration to changing that name in your early days when people were like "What's up with your name?" And Lady in White - fuckin CREPPY when I first saw it as a kid. In fact, I've still not seen it since and don't know if I really have any desire to now.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:36:43 PM CDT

    Stir of Echoes

    by jonah echo

    Overshadowed by Sixth Sense, but a good movie in it's own right. It isnt a masterpeice, but it does alot right. Good Bacond performance. I loved the setting. And the way the movie kept drawing the lines between this easy going blue collar group of parents and their kids. Showing the distance. The cinematography and the direction on the scene where we see Bacon sitting on a rock wall drinking a beer at a party with the baby monitor sitting next to him, with his house in the background and the blue glow of the night light in his son's window was great. And when strange stuff starts coming through that monitor: priceless.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:37:33 PM CDT

    What up, Pillow!

    by finky089

    been about a million since I seen ya. And yes continue with the wonderful horror discussion, folks. sorry.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:38:26 PM CDT

    Danny..was that the one with the killer

    by jonah echo

    totems? I remember that. Way low budget, but kind of enjoyable, if I remember correctly.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:39:41 PM CDT

    I may be crucified for this...

    by thekylegassproject

    'cause it had some bad effects. and some bad acting. and it was made for tv, but as i understand there's at least one of you that doesn't mind that. anyway. here goes.

    i really enjoyed ROSE RED. anyone else?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:40:38 PM CDT

    1408

    by jonah echo

    Ok, I know many on here mentioned before that they disliked it, but I'm gonna say I thought it was pretty good. I only saw it once, and I was psyched for a good ghost story, and I thought it delivered. At least on a visceral level. As a story, it breaks down almost immediately, but taken as a longer Tales from the Darkside kind of ep, I think it worked. Cusack gave a good performance, and I liked the pacing and tension. It wasn't wonderful, but I thought it satisfied.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:41:11 PM CDT

    Alone in the dark

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    The old one from the 1980's. Fred saw that a few years ago.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:41:16 PM CDT

    and i agree about stir of echoes. great flick.

    by thekylegassproject

  • Jul 28, 2008 1:42:50 PM CDT

    How the hell is this TB back at #2?

    by xiphos_2

    I thought it was done after my lame attempts to keep it afloat Sunday night.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:45:57 PM CDT

    Creepshow 2 - Maneating Oilslick in the Lake

    by finky089

    Th way that shit gobbled up teenagers gave me the creeps at summer camp for years afterward. Ironically, Creepshow 2's other most "inspiring" moment for me growing up was yelling "thanks for the ride, lady!" anytime I saw a hitchiker on the side of the road.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:46:16 PM CDT

    FUCK YES!

    by thekylegassproject

    that look TROLL 2-errific!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:49:21 PM CDT

    this tb is #2 because

    by ironic_name

    OLEG loves them.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:49:28 PM CDT

    jonah...

    by thekylegassproject

    i swear, we've got some similar taste for sure. everyone ragged on 1408 like it was a maxi-pad with wings. it was NOT that bad. and cusack did well for sure.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:49:43 PM CDT

    Sasquatch, the legend of bigfoot

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Another movie from Fred's mom's treasure chest of schlock.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:50:50 PM CDT

    hey finky!

    by just pillow talk

    My class is kicking my ass right now.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:51:18 PM CDT

    so did anyone else...

    by thekylegassproject

    like rose red. you have to REALLY suspend disbelief, but King's story holds up.

    plus i'm fanatical about the mini-series format. i'd love to write in that format. a good size for good arcs.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:51:35 PM CDT

    watched Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein last night

    by just pillow talk

    If that's not horror at its finest, I don't know what is.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:52:28 PM CDT

    Session Nine

    by jonah echo

    A yet as unmentioned ghost story that was just intense. It took two viewings for it to really click for me, but it works and it works well. It's ending is chilling to me.

    "Do it Gordon."

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:54:03 PM CDT

    kyle...Rose

    by jonah echo

    was working for me the first night of it's run, but as it progressed it kept getting further and further away from me. I felt ostracized by it's cheesinees by the end, and wanted it to come back. It wasn't terrible, but I'm sorry to say I can't give it any love.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:55:16 PM CDT

    haha

    by thekylegassproject

    fair enough jonah

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:55:38 PM CDT

    Danny,

    by jonah echo

    I can't wait until you see the actual movie. You will fall in love. It's as absurd, and more-so than the trailer. It's also sometimes just straight funny, not even just unintentionally funny.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:57:31 PM CDT

    Below

    by jonah echo

    It's a haunted submarine. And the ghost likes Benny Goodman. But otherwise, I kind of dig it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:58:14 PM CDT

    it's old isnt it..

    by jonah echo

    the one I saw was made in like mid 90s.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 1:59:36 PM CDT

    This kind of late, but one of Freds favorite kill scenes is..

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    When Dr. Frank-N-Furter dismembers Meatloaf with chainsaw in freezer. Then serves him up for dinner!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:01:56 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    We have trouble getting things like youtube to work here, But I see from the title its a clip of Winterbeast. Is that the Scottish or Irish movie with, I think, killer trees or something?Why did you want me to watch it?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:02:03 PM CDT

    thanks Danny...

    by just pillow talk

    It has the production values from 1891, let alone 1991.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:03:11 PM CDT

    Mr. Boogedy

    by jonah echo

    Now we are talking. Does it get goofier than Mr. Boogedy? Beware the vacuum cleaner, Boogedy!! What happens when Wonderful World of Disney makes a movie. And there was a sequel. The Bride of Boogedy. And Kristy Swanson again.John Astin was aboard. For the sequel we had Eugene Levy and Vincent Schiavelli.

    For the record, Im not ragging on them. I actually like the movies, despite their cheesiness.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:08:16 PM CDT

    Anyone else

    by xiphos_2

    Liking the sound of the Vampires vs Zombies movie post on the main page? It sounds like it has the potential to be fairly fun if it is executed correctly. Boobs and blood that wins the day and a locked down camera.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:10:23 PM CDT

    Winterbeast and Fred's own movie

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred and Fred's friends made a movie about a plastic sheet beast with red wig. Fred's tallest friend wore a red wig a we wrapped him in a sheet of plastic - sort of a plastic mummy/poncho hybrid. He chased us around a schoolyard with tire iron and we got a little girl that Fred was sweet on, to scream her lungs out. The movie ended when we trapped redwig - that was his name, in school bus and blew it up with dynamite. Needless to say, the school bus was a plastic toy, and the dynamite was two M-80's. Still, it made a good boom! Fred think that movie was better than Winterbeast. Fred was ten years old.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:11:24 PM CDT

    xiphos

    by thekylegassproject

    i'm down for sure. so i wonder if the vampires will save us THEN kill us. or save us and then draw up a blood donation contract...or...

    howzat work?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:12:01 PM CDT

    Wow, i get back from work and TB is on fire

    by chittychittygangbang

    Damn, I see we are at ghost stories now.
    I saw some Sixth Sense mentions and some Stir of Echos.
    Let me just say Stir of Echos is very underrated flick.
    In fact the ONLY reason I would rate the Sixth Sense over it is Toni Collette.
    Three scenes with her make the movie to me.
    1: When she is pushing the buggy and all of the sudden starts going fast.
    2: When she gets bent out of shape when massive ego in white coat accusses her of abuse.
    3: And the best was when Osment told her that her mother said the answer to her question was everyday. The question was did she ever make her proud. Damn that was a good scene.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:13:09 PM CDT

    Fred

    by thekylegassproject

    what flick were you talking about above where meatloaf is dismembered?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:14:03 PM CDT

    Danny, did you see Rawhead Rex?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Started to watch it Saturday night, but got sucked into Anaconda 3.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:15:02 PM CDT

    Did you see R-Point, Jonah?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That movie did nothing for me and yet it's one of the few Korean releases that gets a release over here. Not sure I like ghosts mixed in with my wartime movies.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:15:07 PM CDT

    absolutely Xi...

    by just pillow talk

    But that's if they don't fuck it up. It could be utter mayhem.On a related mayhem thought...I can't wait to see Doomsday.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:16:58 PM CDT

    Damn Fred, hadn't seen you in awhile

    by chittychittygangbang

    I had the local sheriff round up a posse looking for you.
    Will let them know you are here (firing three shots in the air...)

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:19:56 PM CDT

    HOD has opened the pandora's box..

    by jonah echo

    of asian ghost stories, and now it is ON.

    R-Point was disappointing to me. Tense for a while,but ultimately rather lame. It just left me cold. And a ghost story shouldnt do that. For me, when you are feeling pleasurably disquieted or creeped out, there is a warmth there. Many Japanese horror films have zero warmth. It's all just cold slimy wet black hair. But not all...There are in fact some excellent ones...and not just from Japan...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:20:13 PM CDT

    Pillow, good to hear you finally saw Invisible Target

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You're right, SPL is a better movie because it has Yen and Hung. I was impressed with the production values though. And it never slowed down.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:20:36 PM CDT

    thekylegassproject

    by xiphos_2

    I think they have to keep humans alive or else they're in deep kimchee because all the food is gone.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:20:55 PM CDT

    thekylegassproject

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Fred sorry Fred not put that in post.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:22:07 PM CDT

    Ugetsu

    by jonah echo

    Sure, its mostly a drama with the ghost elements meticulously interwoven into the primary tale. But it is HAUNTING. It understands the concept of a ghost in the same way Devil's Backbone does, and it arrives to a similar conclusion that the past and one's inability to do anything about it but regret can be more horrifying than things bumping in the dark.

    Ugetsu is a masterpiece and a work of art. See it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:23:01 PM CDT

    Hello ChittyChittyGangBang

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    It is good to see you too! Fred not need posse! Fred being Ninja Fred for a while though. It is good to see the B movie TB back on top almost. This one not as good as Emmerich, but it damn sure is better than W!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:25:01 PM CDT

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    Its all in the execution. Too camp or too dreary will kill it. Make some good kills. Throw in some chicks cans, still attached to the broad, and lock down the camera and we'll be good to go.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:25:26 PM CDT

    KWAIDAN

    by jonah echo

    I completely LOVE this movie. Have any of you here seen it? I bought the Criterion Collection version of this, but I think it is on Youtube in segments. It's a ghost story anthology that is done amazingly well. It has an abstract and surreal vibe to the whole event, and the images make it easily one of the most beautiful horror movies ever made.

    The ghosts of Kwaidan play by the rules of classic Japanese phantoms, but the film made in the 60s is far, far, far superior to any other Japanese horror if you ask me.

    Has anyone seen this? It makes the pale women, the wailing specters and the long flowing black hair appealing, and frigtening.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:27:27 PM CDT

    anyways gents

    by xiphos_2

    Off to the rack to grab some sleep. Buenos Dias.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:33:41 PM CDT

    Kwaidin translate to screen?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Jonah, I read about Kobayashi on wiki and it talked about him using built sets even in the outdoors and said they were lit very bright.
    Does this tranlate to a creepier vibe? I need to find out how to check some of this stuff out.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:35:40 PM CDT

    No doubt Hawaiian

    by just pillow talk

    And they definitely made the bad guys pretty bad ass. It took 3 guys to take down the head of the little group.They make everything better Xi. Everything.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 2:55:23 PM CDT

    In case I get banned, I just wanted to say

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It's been a pleasure serving you as the Hawaiian.There's a piece of worm ridden filth (always nice to pull out a ROTJ reference) over in the Dubya TB that pushed my buttons and I went off on him. I may have crossed the line. Who knows.Unfortunatley I can't contribute much here because horror is the one genre I don't follow unless it's pre-1980.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:00:51 PM CDT

    HOD...have you seen Kwaidan

    by jonah echo

    It's both pre-1980 and it's Japanese. If you haven't I HIGHLY recommend it.

    Chitty, those impressionistic sets do translate with a creepy vibe.
    And you can see it on youtube(or you once could) or rent it from Netflix. They have it there. It's a very worthwhile film. For Hoichi the Earless, if nothing else, but the entirety of the film is amazing.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:03:25 PM CDT

    Is Netflix worth it?

    by chittychittygangbang

  • Jul 28, 2008 3:05:05 PM CDT

    Is Netflix worth it?

    by chittychittygangbang

    What I meant to say, is it very reliable? I have debating it for awhile and may pull the trigger just to see some of these titles.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:06:30 PM CDT

    Images from Kwaidan...

    by jonah echo

    to give you an idea of what you are in for:

    http://www.cultfilmsenkutfilms.com/pics/kwaidan_02.jpg

    http://www.cinemademerde.com/kwaidan-eye.gif

    http://www.dvdrama.com/menus/intr_kwaidan19.jpg

    http://bp0.blogger.com/_uiWlOtEjWhI/RqguoxpfngI/AAAAAAAAArU/KR7sS6PLSs0/s1600-h/kwaidan06-2.jpg

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:09:28 PM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    They always send me what I ask for, once they screwed up, and immediately sent me a replacement, and if something is lost, they usually send a replacement no questions asked. And I rarely have ridiculous waits.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:16:34 PM CDT

    I havent touched down over there..

    by jonah echo

    but my guess is the W thread is getting so much play because of political bloodbaths over there? It's skyrocketing. Meanwhile, we came back with a vengeance.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:25:57 PM CDT

    Buppah Rahtree

    by jonah echo

    Now this is one for the horror and B-meisters on this site. It has tragedy, gore and comedy.

    It's a thai horror film that tells one story, but is divided into three emotionally different pieces.

    I checked in on the film at an anime convention, and I almost walked out initially because A) I didn't know the movie was a horror and B) it was terribly depressing, and didn't seem to be letting up..AND THEN...

    So, the story follows a young rich cad who is bewitched by a young woman named Buppah Rahtree, and he eventually makes a bet for a bottle of wine that he can bed her. Buppah believes he is sincere, he is falling for her, but at the same time is very fickle. She gets pregnant, he freaks out. He leaves her, comes back, coerces an abortion out of her, and when it goes poorly for Buppah, he leaves again. The first segment ends with her crying in pools of her own blood, angry, despiaring and eventually dying broken hearted. Feel good movie of the year.

    At that point, while captivated, I just wasn't in the mood to be depressed so I started to get up. And the movie changes. The story begins to follow the absurd goofballs that live in the apartment complex that Buppah lives in. She is dead. The police come to take the body out. But she aint budging. She enjoyes the afterlife, and enjoys screwing with the tenants and their sense of calm and sanity. She waits for the police to take her out, and starts to wriggle in their arms as they hold the body bag. When she sees her large, portly neighbor coming, she will skip down the sidewalk, forcing them to jump into the bushes in fright. They get two priests who once saw the Exorcist to do the job. She has a bow staff. They do not. It goes poorly. And then they call in the Cambodian exorcists.

    The third part brings the story full circle with the same kind of grisly tension Audition had, but this film retains it's humor to the end. I expected nothing, but it had alot of class and character and it had a great sense of humor. I highly reccomend it.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:31:25 PM CDT

    I peeked into the W thread

    by chittychittygangbang

    Wow, talk about some heated exchanges. People were telling each other to die. Holy crap!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:33:21 PM CDT

    Bay films..

    by jonah echo

    Best to worst:

    1. Transformers

    2. The Rock

    3. The Island

    4. Days of Thunder

    5. Pearl Harbor

    6. Bady Boys

    7. Bad Boys 2

    8. Armageddon

    6.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:39:08 PM CDT

    Wow..you are right Danny..

    by jonah echo

    I should feel bad about that slight, but I don't. Either way, ranking Bay's films is liking have a crap tasting contest. It is unlikely you will ever truly tell which piece of crap tastes the worst, and if you have found one that you actually enjoy eating, there is the cold comfort that is just redigested bits of actually good food. And at the end of the ranking, you still have the aftertaste of licking poop.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:41:44 PM CDT

    And I say that as a guy that actually

    by jonah echo

    doesnt mind Bay and liked everything on my list until after The Island.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:45:48 PM CDT

    Kwaidan

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I haven't seen it but I'll look into it.I still say The Island is Bay's best film and if directed by someone else, would have been received more favorably. It's really a very good movie.Danny, good name in case the ban hammer comes down.That W thread is too much. The stupidty of some people is unreal.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:49:21 PM CDT

    Tony Scott films

    by chittychittygangbang

    1:The Last Boy Scout (1991
    2:Top Gun (1986
    3:Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)
    4:Man on Fire (2004)
    5:Crimson Tide (1995)
    6:Enemy of the State (1998)
    7:The Fan (1996)
    8:True Romance (1993)
    9:Spy Game (2001)
    10:Days of Thunder (1990)

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  • Jul 28, 2008 3:58:15 PM CDT

    Never seen Domino

    by chittychittygangbang

    Too many people told me to avoid it all costs. Can it be that bad?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 4:12:30 PM CDT

    Oh, boy. The big dog toadkiller just launched on W TB

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred getting popcorn and waiting for fireworks. Hawaiian Organ Donor is also lighting it up over there. Fred loves carnage! Fred watched Transformers this weekend! It not as bad as at theater. Fred could follow action better, but still, the big fight at the end, was terrible. Fred not know who is who. And Shia got the girl!!!!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 4:18:42 PM CDT

    That's weird Fred

    by chittychittygangbang

    I was at a friend's house and was flipping over DVDs on his shelf (He didn't keep them in the cases). He had Transformers so I put it in and watched most of the action scenes only.
    You are right about the last few fights, as they get kind of muddled.
    But man were some of the effects pretty amazing.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 4:30:31 PM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Synchronicity! At least Fred thinks taht how to spell it. That is what we had ChittyChittyGangBang. Fred loved the CGI. The robot transformations were flawless, and the big set action sequences wee great - if hard to follow. But DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD is absolutely right, the human interaction and storyline was plah! Double plah!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 4:35:56 PM CDT

    Agreed Fred, Danny

    by chittychittygangbang

    I just could not give a rat's ass about her dad being a car thief or whatever.
    I mean who gives a fuck about that? What does that have to do with robots fighting over the AllSpark?
    The only drama should have been if Shia gets to hook up with her. That's it!
    Effects and most of action were good if not great.
    I wish I could edit it down to just the action sequences. Nevermind, I can get those on youtube.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 4:50:31 PM CDT

    The robot pissing. Pissing!!

    by chittychittygangbang

    That's what did it for me as far as a WTF moment. The movie had some really cool effects and some really bullshit comedy.
    The robot break dancing? WTF!!!
    He may have set a record by trying to include the largest number of demographics in the history of cinema.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:00:31 PM CDT

    Oh well time to go home

    by chittychittygangbang

    Had fun once again. Will watch Intervention on A&E and may sign back in afterwards.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:11:10 PM CDT

    DOMINO

    by spud mcspud

    I actually found Keira Knightley sexy in that movie. Does that make me perverted.

    "I am a bounty hunt-AH." Keira trying, and failing (pretty dismally) to be a badass. With editing guaranteed to bring on epilepsy even among the viewers who DON'T have it already. That movie is batshit crazy - and not in a good way.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:13:22 PM CDT

    Wholly shit balls

    by series7

    I thought this thread was dead last night. Damn, fucking peer forced work productivity sucks.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:19:08 PM CDT

    Session 9

    by series7

    Awesome movie! Scared the hell out of me the first time. One of the few scary movies in the day time films.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:30:33 PM CDT

    Did anyone see Tony Scott's The Hunger..

    by jonah echo

    It was a vampire flick with David Bowie and Catherine Deneuve and young Susan Sarandon...kissing.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:35:39 PM CDT

    Street Trash

    by therewolf

    Kills. Can't leave out the bum disappearing down the toilet after drinking a bottle of dodgy booze.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:40:48 PM CDT

    The Hunger

    by therewolf

    Yeah, I remember that one. That had Bowie going from young to decrepit old age in the space of a day. Obviously, the seduction scene with the ladies was rather eye catching too!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 5:53:13 PM CDT

    so, has anyone here NOT seen Dark City?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 5:58:44 PM CDT

    street trash..

    by jonah echo

    what a mess that was. literally.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 6:03:09 PM CDT

    Olympics are about as outdated as circuses and parades

    by rupee88

  • Jul 28, 2008 6:03:17 PM CDT

    Olympics are about as outdated as circuses and parades

    by rupee88

  • Jul 28, 2008 6:06:13 PM CDT

    Dark City

    by therewolf

    Just watched the Director's Cut. The additions are fairly subtle, scene extensions, that kind of thing. Don't want to say too much if you haven't seen the DC yet. I'd have to see the theatrical cut again to really compare it. Great movie. The Wachowskis definitely clocked Dark City before they made The Matrix.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 6:25:56 PM CDT

    Therewolf

    by jonah echo

    there was originally some comment made about improving fx. Did you notice anything of that nature?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 7:55:16 PM CDT

    The Neck TB is beating the Political TB

    by xiphos_2

    Praise be to Allah for that one.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:34:59 PM CDT

    Spud McSpud

    by xiphos_2

    I agree with you about Keira Nightly in Domino plus I actually have a weird fondness for that mess of a movie and It's a mess, of epic proportions.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:40:15 PM CDT

    ok guys..we need something inspired to do here..

    by jonah echo

    it's lagging, and I'm temporarily fried in my B-movie sensors.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:46:42 PM CDT

    that W talkback is looking weakly and sick nowq..

    by jonah echo

    I think we could pick it off.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 8:51:22 PM CDT

    New Topic....The top ten

    by jonah echo

    best Star Wars moments..and the ten worst..

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:06:30 PM CDT

    worst Star War Moments

    by xiphos_2

    1. The Phantom Menance2.Attack of the clones3.The Revenge of the Sith.4.The fucking Ewoks. Oh How I hate those furry midgets5.George Lucas, starting with Return of the Jedi.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:07:19 PM CDT

    Ten worst Star Wars moments?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Pick any dialogue from the prequels. That stuff is just tragic.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:12:59 PM CDT

    How about the good, guys..the good..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:15:36 PM CDT

    Top ten best moments..

    by jonah echo

    10. The Jedi eradication sequence in Revenge of the Sith.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:17:20 PM CDT

    9. The cantina on Mos Eisley

    by jonah echo

    I'm sure it should be higher, but this was just so awesome when I was a kid...especially culminating in the severed arm.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:18:57 PM CDT

    8. The speeder bike chase.

    by jonah echo

    It is almost the best thing about Return of the Jedi...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:21:34 PM CDT

    8. The speeder bike chase

    by xiphos_2

    From the ewoks furry adventure

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:21:37 PM CDT

    7. The standing in front of the binary suns in A New Hope

    by jonah echo

    and the subsequent bit where Obi tells Luke of the Force for the first time. Even as a kid, those moments were the major awe moments-hearing about something mysterious and unseen. Lucas captures that awe and desire for something bigger perfectly.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:23:05 PM CDT

    Ha Ha

    by toadkillerdog

    You guys are crazy good! Keep it up!

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:23:47 PM CDT

    okay that was creepy

    by xiphos_2

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:23:49 PM CDT

    okay that was creepy

    by xiphos_2

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:24:46 PM CDT

    6. The opening of the film, the introduction

    by jonah echo

    of Vader, Leia, R2D2 and C3P0 and that giant ship rumbling into the frame, overpowiering the other.

    Does an opening get better than that?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:25:47 PM CDT

    I'm over in the political TB

    by toadkillerdog

    It is not really heated at all. Not like when Brane was around. Much more civil. Yes, some idiots, but really it is not like the greengrass or jimmy carter TB's. My guess is because of that civility, it will not last long. Only the really nasty ones hang around

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:26:18 PM CDT

    5. The first assault on the Death Star..

    by jonah echo

    Bangarang! That is still all kinds of brilliant.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:26:26 PM CDT

    6. The Millinum Falcon Saving Lukes ass

    by xiphos_2

    So he can blow up the death star

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:27:54 PM CDT

    4. Hoth...from the Wompa on

    by jonah echo

    through the AT-ATs. One of the greatest action scenes in the history of action scenes. Pure imagination.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:29:31 PM CDT

    3. Yoda and Dagobah

    by jonah echo

    in particular the cave sequence and the sublime scene of a muppet holding a spaceship over it's head.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:30:38 PM CDT

    The attack on the Rebel base on Hoth

    by xiphos_2

    With the cool fighters and the Walkers

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:31:42 PM CDT

    2. Luke I am your father..

    by jonah echo

    and the amazing battle that went before it.

    Also, I'm going to go back on that stupid 10 spot choice, and nix ROTS completely, and replace that with the moment between Leia and Han as he is being frozen.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:33:41 PM CDT

    1. Vader shot-putting the Emperor

    by jonah echo

    into the reactor. I know ROTJ is a weak movie, but that moment redeemed not only Vader but that movie, and is probably one of the reasons I don't get overly ticked at Lucas to this day. THAT was a powerful moment. You can debate all before it and after, but that was the heart of the series as far as I am concerned.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:34:32 PM CDT

    and we that, we put down W...

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 9:34:42 PM CDT

    I should stop I'm more or less copying you Jonah

    by xiphos_2

    Great minds and all.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:35:27 PM CDT

    and with that..

    by jonah echo

    I meant...

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:37:37 PM CDT

    You guys jumped the Cow

    by toadkillerdog

    You are number 2! And i mean that in the nicest way! BTW the HBOLA channel had a documentary on - wait for it -- Shedding light on vampires in America.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:38:23 PM CDT

    hey, it's fine..

    by jonah echo

    afterall, that list made me feel a little better about liking Star Wars.

    And I'm not even a Prequel hater.
    Im not really an apologist, either. Phantom Menace is a bore. Attack is goofy matinee fun. ROTS is a legitimately good film marred with some poor dialogue and a few odd choices. I mostly think ROTS is a better movie than ROTJ, but ROTJ has better overall moments.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:39:33 PM CDT

    good job Jonah

    by xiphos_2

    with the mercey shot you administered to the political TB.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:45:07 PM CDT

    I would like to point out something regarding

    by jonah echo

    Lucas though. That article was really him just waxing arrogant and egotistical, and he drops info like this(which, lets face it, didnt even constitute real info) and not only does it get printed, but everyone flocks to it, whether to blast him or not. In some ways, I don't know if Lucas has ever been more popular, at least not since the days of ROTJ and the first series. Then he was just one of several pioneering filmmakers. Now he is like the dark lord, and I think he relishes the fact that even the people who express frustration on his work will still amass and cower in his shadow.

    When people stop caring about Lucas, then he might have a reason to change. As is now, it's only a matter of time before he inserts Howard the Duck into Star Wars Ep. 7. "I knew you were on board Howard. I could recognize that fowl stench anywhere." Closeup as Howard fondles Leia's boobs.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:48:04 PM CDT

    The prequels

    by xiphos_2

    I don't reallly hate the prequel nor do I like them either. I'm more or less indifferent to them. I thought they brought nothing to the table and in some respects diminished what went before.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 9:56:04 PM CDT

    see anything good lately xi?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 28, 2008 10:12:37 PM CDT

    Xi, Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    You guys are fighting the good fight. I am trying to school some nitwits on how a true military leader inspires his men.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:15:47 PM CDT

    Seen Dark/Hunger

    by series7

    Love Dark City, I was looking at it last night and I guess thats why David Goyer is allowed to write any movie he damn well feels. The Hunger was pretty good i thought, you ever seen the TV show? Saw Diary of the Dead last night and Jumper and they were both a lot better then I thought they would be. I guess since I thought they both would suck they exceeded my expectations unlike most movies.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:22:16 PM CDT

    series..

    by jonah echo

    did you see the director's cut?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:29:12 PM CDT

    Of Dark City?

    by series7

    No not yet, i didn't realize it was out yet. Anyone watch Mad Men last night?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:34:59 PM CDT

    it comes out tomorrow series..

    by jonah echo

    with Doomsday, Tai Chi Master and Lost Boys 2. Which of these things is not like the others? Which of these just doesn't belong?

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  • Jul 28, 2008 10:51:11 PM CDT

    Lost Boys 2?

    by series7

    Doomsday is a fucking sweet movie, may warrant a purchase, but I'm broke right now. I'll wait for the Criteron edition anyway.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:01:57 PM CDT

    Soulless Harvey Weinstein

    by spymunk

    Remember, this is the guy who does the same job and works with the same people as the ones who asked of the script for PHONE BOOTH when given the pitch, "So how soon can we get him out of the phone booth?" That is what you need to remember. Any time ANYONE suggests being optimistic about studio executives, look the fucker square in the eye and say "How soon can we get him out of the phone booth?"

    I also like to point out Orson Scott Card's ENDER'S GAME movie. Here we have a movie where the WHOLE STORY is about how a massive war must be fought by a child. It's an intense sci-fi action picture with astonishing space battles and intense human drama. There's just one problem - not one studio on the planet is willing to accept the FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENT OF THE STORY THAT ENDER IS A KID. I use ENDER'S GAME as an illustrative point about just how vile and loathesome executives in Hollywood (Weinstein included) are when it comes to dealing with artistic properties.

    Focus groups say people won't go to a movie principally about a kid - so, therefore, MONEY -ALWAYS- TRUMPS ART.

    Even Orson Scot Card himself betrayed the fundamental principle of the novel for money, vowing that he would never allow an Ender movie to be made unless Ender was a kid, and recently backing a script where Ender was WB-aged within the first five minutes of the movie. This is because there is NOT ONE EXECUTIVE IN HOLLYWOOD who doesn't placve the value of money over the value of art. The sonner you accept this, the better.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:50:32 PM CDT

    Hey for those still around

    by series7

    There is a sweet Michael Cain movie marathon this Friday on TCM from 10:30 PM to 6:00 AM Alfie/Pulp/Get Carter/The Destructors. Haven't seen any of those, been wanting to. Now I got them all in one place.

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  • Jul 28, 2008 11:57:49 PM CDT

    Johah

    by xiphos_2

    The only things I see are what I brought with me. Mostly TV shows on DVD. I'm working my way through the first four seasons of the X Files. I watched the second, third and fourth season of Rescue Me and Californication and some other things.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:59:31 AM CDT

    Amazing!

    by thead

    This thread is back at number two again.

    Speaking of Michael Caine, my wife and I were watching the Sleuth remake the other night and I have absolutely no clue what happens in the last act of the movie because I fell asleep. (it wasn't so much boring as I was dead tired though :) )

    Also, I have to (note the married comment above) sit through my unfare share of Chick Flicks, and he was one of the few bearable parts of Miss Congeniality.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:20:22 AM CDT

    Michael Caine

    by series7

    Looks like its an all day thing starting at 8AM with Billion Dollar Brain/Sleuth/The Eagle has Landed/Battle of Britain/A Bridge Too Far/Zulu then the ones I said earlier. Wish I could take the day off work.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:10:21 AM CDT

    I Love Ya Moriarty but...

    by sg xibalba

    ....holy crapolla that was a tad on the patronizing side!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:31:52 AM CDT

    Spud's 10 worst STAR WARS moments...

    by spud mcspud

    (10) Meesa moy moy annoying! ANYTHING to do with Jar Jar Binks, EVER.

    (9) Retconning the Ewok and Sy Snootles songs in ROTJ. Sy Snootles singing directly AT me? In Shitterama CGI? The Muppets were better. Fuck off, George.

    (8) They killed Darth Maul. Those bastards! Only the greatest villain in the entire saga (since Vader is a whinging girly bitch now...)

    (7) Retconning Mos Eisley. Once a seedy back alleyway type area full of shitty dives, now it's a bustling metropolis with CGI in EVERY FUCKING CORNER OF THE SCREEN and fucking Brontosauruses. Called, imaginatively enough, Rontos. Oh, the artistry.

    (6) "Hold me, like you did by the Lake at Naboo." "I'd be much too scared to tease a Senator." "The sand gets everywhere. Here everything's soft..." "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!". Is this the worst written love story dialogue EVER? Yes, yes it is.

    (5) Retconning Young Anakin Ghost over the legendary Sebastian Shaw ghost at the end of ROTJ. For shame, Lucas, for fucking shame.

    (4) That fucking ring around the explosion of the Death Star at the end of STAR WARS! THERE IS NO RING!!! Know why? Not only 'cos it ain't in the original, but also because the Death Star is ROUND, so if it exploded in space - no air in space, remember - the explosion would be equilateral, which means the debris would travel expansively outwards in all directions during the explosion and its aftermath. Which is how it ORIGINALLY went, Lucas, you fucking nut bar. And don't EVEN get me going on those fucking sonic bombs in CLONES, considering there's no fucking sound in space...

    (3) Midichlorians. MIDICHLORIANS! As if the Jedi Council acting like a bunch of effete snobs isn't enough, the Force is actually created by bacteria. WAY TO FUCK UP YOUR LEGACY, LUCAAAAAAAS!!!

    (2) Anakin's oh-so-dramtic-but-so-FUCKING-DIRE dialogue. Hayden I actually feel sorry for in all this, having to say shit like - Emperor: Are you going to kill me, Anakin? Anakin: "I would certainly like to!". (To Obi-Wan in ROTS) "You underestimate my poooooooweeeeeeer!". Does that sound like THE MUMMY to anyone else? "Hey Benny! Looks like you're on the wrong side of the riiiiiiiveeeeeer!". And as for that fucking Vader on the table scene going "Nooooooooooooooooo", apart from sounding like Kathy Burke on GIMME GIMME GIMME ("What's my line, you bitch?" "NOOOOOOOOO!") Lucas and Hayden just turned one of the greatest classic all-time movie villains into a whiny bitch. Way to go, boys.

    (1) Greedo shooting first. GREEDO DID NOT FUCKING SHOOT FIRST! HE FUCKING DIDN'T! HAN IS, AND WILL ALWAYS BE, A BADASS! GOT THAT LUCAS?!?!?

    Fuck Darth Gizzard and all he stands for. That fat Hutt bastard has gone to the Dark Side. Boycott THE CLONE WARS, it's the only thing that greedy fuck understands.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:33:13 AM CDT

    Xiphos

    by spud mcspud

    Hope you're enjoying CALIFORNICATION - it's much funnier if you think of it as what Fox Mulder gets up to on his vacation time ;D

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:38:58 AM CDT

    How amazing is the Hoth sequence?!?

    by spud mcspud

    The shot where Luke gets hit, loses control, flies down, and lands nose first in the dirt... and the camera never cuts away - we see it all from Luke's cockpit view. I've seen God knows how many documentaries, read God knows how many books on that saga, and I still have no idea how ILM did that shot. Absolute distilled cinematic perfection, that entire sequence. The
    Hoth battle is AWESOME.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:42:44 AM CDT

    Spud

    by xiphos_2

    Californication is a riot. They should have renamed Mulders character Hank Mulder and had him bang anything with a vagina in the new movie. Man is Duchovney great in Californication. That step daughter of his wife is one nice piece of trim, so is his old lady on the show for that matter. Plus they got Paula Marshal naked in an episode so they earned my viewership.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:43:34 AM CDT

    What the apologists don't understand

    by spud mcspud

    Is the pain of seeing such utter perfection as stuff like Luke being told about the Force by Ben, the binary suns sequence, the TANTIVE IV being pursued - and captured - by the Star Destroyer, the Death Star trench run, the Hoth sequence, the Speeder Bike chase, the ROTJ space battle, Luke vs Vader in ROTJ - when you see such pitch-perfect greatness up on the big screen, then see the same guy who did all that tear it down just to prove to the internet critics that he don't have to listen to them - he's like an infant who inadvertently painted the Mona Lisa, and is now fingerpainting Spongebob Squarepants all over it.

    Basically, fuck George Lucas. Next!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:45:42 AM CDT

    Another dire Star Wars moment

    by xiphos_2

    The Entire Jedi world except for Obi Wan, Yoda and Anikin got taken out in about 30 seconds with out a peep. Lame

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:46:56 AM CDT

    Ah yes, Xi

    by spud mcspud

    Paula Marshall is always welcome nekkid on my screen - liked her ever since her twitchy Goth turn on HELLRAISER 3 - and Natascha McElhone (his ex-wife) on the show is just a goddess. Strong jaw, high cheekbones, stunning smile, wide luminous eyes - she is every kind of easy on the eye. Absolutely beuatiful.

    Now we need Gillian Anderson to cameo as some hotel room skank Hank bangs while snorting coke off her back. Just to REALLY kill the X-FILES franchise dead.

    Here's a thought: Is Chris Carter the new George Lucas? ;p

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:49:25 AM CDT

    Xi - Jedi massacre

    by spud mcspud

    Yep - "the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy". Yes, and they went out like punk bitches. Considering how they were deflecting laser bolts left and right in the arena at the end of CLONES, and the fact that an average clone trooper can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo, let alone a Jedi in full effect with a standard blaster - they suddenly got REALLY good for the Order 66 sequence. Shit like that just serves to strengthen the haters' arguments against the prequels. Lame as all hell.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:03:45 AM CDT

    Spud

    by xiphos_2

    I've had a thing For Natasha McElhone since Ronin. Is she English or Irish? Or am I confusing the Irish thing with her character on Ronin? Sorry to ask its just I'm to lazy to go look it up.From the very first scene in Californication I've been hoping they bring in Scully. Unfortuantly I read somewhere that Scully has a bun in the oven in real life so I guess that idea has to shelved for the time being.The fucking Jedi. They have mind powers, a sword made of light and are trained to the nth degree and they went down faster then a crack whore for 10 dollars? Un-fucking-forgivable in my opinion. I get they had to be taken out, but lord, why so easily? i know the standard dodge by the apolgist is that they were internally weak and full of themselves yadda yadda yadda. Like you noted though the got awfully weak, awfully fast. Rather convieniant in my opinion.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:14:58 AM CDT

    Spud about Chris Carter

    by xiphos_2

    I think in broad strokes you could consider Carter to be the new Lucas in terms of failure, at least from what I have read. Haven't see the movie yet.Although comparing their respective careers, Lucas slide is much steeper. Fucking Ewoks that's all I have to say.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:38:03 AM CDT

    Xi - Nub nyub!

    by spud mcspud

    I really didn't mind the Ewoks, I got what Lucas was going for - primitive vs tech advanced - and they were kind of cool. I agree about Lucas' slide though - Chris Carter has a way to go befroe we hate him the way we hate Lucas. From what I hear, XF2 is just funny (as in really shit - funny) and should be taken as a TV ep up on screen.

    Natascha is actually English I believe, and sadly recently lost her beloved husband of a decade. He was a world-famous plastic surgeon who died of a sudden heart attack, I think. Condolences to the woman.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:23:58 AM CDT

    I noticed something

    by xiphos_2

    I was trying to figure why this TB lost some numbers from the overall total. Scanning the TB I realized that DGDB posts have been removed. I must assume it had something to do with the political TB. Nothing good ever arises from political or death TB. Stay away from those two TB people, you'll be happier and your banning chances will be reduced to near nil.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:43:31 AM CDT

    Danny is gone?

    by jonah echo

    So was it the W talkback or the Indy TB, since we know how Danny felt bout Indy 4. That's crappy. Should we keep a look out for JOHN AMOS' PIT STAINS as a talkback handle?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:26:50 AM CDT

    We lost Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That hurts.I'd be curious to know what he said in the W thread to get the ban hammer. I thought it was going to come down on me. He'll be back some enough. The highs and the lows of getting a Judd Apatow shoutout and banned in the same day.Mustn't forget Vader's "Nooooooooooo!!!" as one of the worst moments.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:28:09 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by xiphos_2

    I don't know what Tb it was. But I stand by my statement, Politics or obit TB are the ones where the hammer is worked the most.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:30:15 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by therewolf

    Sorry mate, only just seen your question. I fell asleep, woke up and switched off without refreshing. I didn't see any specific FX improvements but I did think there was a general picture enhancement overall, good contrast, sharper blacks, that kind of thing. Added footage - there's an extra nightclub scene, the addition of a 'minor' character and there's a nice little touch with Bumstead staring into his coffee, starting to get obssessed over the perpetual circle drawing. It's just subtle stuff and I need to see the original again for comparison. Still think the Shreber character should've been cast older. They should've got Kiefer's dad!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:51:29 AM CDT

    Danny shall rise again

    by just pillow talk

    Me thinks his moniker won't change much. The CoC will conduct a nationwide pencil stabbing in his honor.Shitheels, beware!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:21:21 AM CDT

    What on earth did Danny post?

    by chittychittygangbang

    I mean if he hasn't been banned before after going off on different subjects, why now?
    I would like to see what was written that caused this.
    Come back Danny!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:23:01 AM CDT

    What did Apatow say in regards to Daniel?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Did he mention him in an interview or something?
    Damn, that is cool.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:27:11 AM CDT

    Upon Further review

    by xiphos_2

    Mostly because I'm bored. Here's what I believe might have occurred with DGDB.Over in the Wolverine TB Mori stated he banned a doofus named Eggsalad and I think folks arguing with said doofus. I guess the eggsalad goofball was trolling across several TB but was particularly offensive in the circle jerk political TB.That's an impressive feat to be the offensive guy in Political TB considering the ghouls that inhabit those TB.All this is just guess work on my part since apparently I've developed TB agrophobia and don't really leave this TB.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:32:24 AM CDT

    well, because in here..

    by jonah echo

    you can discuss film and ideas, and not have some random person start calling you lobotomized for expressing said views. I made a mistake yesterday and attributed Days of Thunder to Michael Bay. In any other talkback, I would have been instantly derided for that. Danny pointed it out, but that was it. Also, we were ranking Bay films without excessive conversations on why we have no taste for liking some of them.

    If more talkbacks were like this one, I'd probably enjoy AICN a bit more.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:33:29 AM CDT

    Banning guidelines

    by chittychittygangbang

    Do we know what causes a ban in these talkbacks?
    What I mean is that I've seen guys go for the throat back and forth, even wishing death on each other and the ways that they should go.
    This site should have a banned section with an obit that says why they were banned and evidence of what was said.
    That would be interesting.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:36:39 AM CDT

    Don't worry Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    I would have bet my life that Bay directed Days of Thunder.
    I honestly thought he did and looked it up even after Daniel mentioned that he didn't.
    Maybe he ghost directed it or whispered over Tony's shoulder the whole time.
    By the way, I watch a show called Intervention on Mondays on the A&E network. Good Stuff.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:42:27 AM CDT

    The Ban hammer

    by xiphos_2

    I've been banned a lot and well most of them were warrented, but I do have to say that the criteria is subjective as to what crosses the line. I wish I knew what I did the last two times I got nuked.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:46:42 AM CDT

    I think it also depends upon how "active" the mods

    by just pillow talk

    are that particular day too. Sometimes they let tons of shit slide when a banning was really in order.BTW...all that horror talk..was The Howling mentioned? For whatever reason, that popped into my head.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:58:15 AM CDT

    its a wierd line for sure..

    by jonah echo

    so much is allowed...afterall Mori has showed up here and used plenty of colorful expressions and lurid suggestions as to what his detractors can do with the rest of their time. I understand why he does so, but I wonder if it isn't time to reconsider that as well. Berating a troll is like watering a plant.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:00:28 AM CDT

    Fred is very sad to hear that Fred's friend was banned

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    That eggsalad dude needed to be banned, he said that all the tragedy that happened to Harry -was in his words 'funny shit'. Toadkillerdog went after him, but apparently not as hard as Dannyglovers_Dickblood.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:00:40 AM CDT

    let me clarify..

    by jonah echo

    I didnt mean Mori showed up in this talkback and did that..it seems like his answers here were mostly in line, but I havent looked at them lately. But, on this site, Ive seen him go down to the level of his detractors many times. Im sure it's fun, it might even be a perk of a job. I'm just saying, reconsider.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:01:48 AM CDT

    Berating a troll

    by chittychittygangbang

    More like throwing gas on a fire or splitting an atom.
    Never understood why you would take the time to sign up for an account just to be an asshole.
    It's one thing to voice an opinion, but you know some those guys go into a TB just to get on nerves and try to upset the herd.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:03:02 AM CDT

    For Harry's part..

    by jonah echo

    he is usually pretty good about being dismissive of the trolls and sometimes he is very self-deprecating, but really why should this site be filled with that kind of crap. I don't always agree with Harry's tastes, but I appreciate what he does here, and how he does it, and I sympathize with his health issues, and moreso, Im happy and excited that he is working to conteract them.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:06:15 AM CDT

    Which talkback was this in Fred?

    by chittychittygangbang

    I guess I missed it, even though I was scanning the Talkbacks last night before going to bed.
    I feel like a character has been killed off my favorite show.
    But I guess he can be written back in just like on tv.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:08:01 AM CDT

    I'm not banned....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What made you guys think so?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:08:45 AM CDT

    I have been banned before.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But Mori is a pretty decent dude when you talk to him.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:09:01 AM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD!!!!

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    You are back! We thought you were a goner!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:12:12 AM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    It was the W TB. eggsalad wrote a subject header of 'funny shit' - then he proceeded to detail some of the tragedies in Harry's life like his mom dying, and the accident that left Harry in a wheel chair.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:15:44 AM CDT

    Danny!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Damn man, thought you were banned and here you are!
    This is like when they thought William H. Macey was dead in JP3 and he came walking up out of the water.
    You have jumped the Spinosaurus!
    Well played my friend...well played.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:16:41 AM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Your posts are gone. At least Fred can not find any. But at least you did not get banned.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:18:13 AM CDT

    Are you kidding Fred?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Somebody has the inner vile to think that about Harry? Let alone put it into words on his website!
    I've lost people close to me and it is NOT funny.
    Toad and Danny should be rewarded, not banned for going after them.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:18:32 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred has another bad movie - that Fred secretly enjoyed. Evolution with David Duchovny!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:20:22 AM CDT

    Fred no joke about that

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    It was pretty disgusting. eggsalad had been saying disgusting things for a while though.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:20:23 AM CDT

    Danny!!

    by jonah echo

    Why do I feel like this has turned into the cliff scene from Indy 3.

    If you are here..*looks around suspiciously* Where are your posts?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:22:05 AM CDT

    Well, now that were all here..

    by jonah echo

    Let's go get the Neck's talback!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:23:25 AM CDT

    and here we were all looking over the cliff edge

    by just pillow talk

    thinking you went over with the tank and lo and behold you're staring over the edge with us.Luckily your hat blew back to you as well.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:23:51 AM CDT

    Evolution

    by chittychittygangbang

    Saw that in the theater.
    Had some pretty good creatures and some decent humor.
    Didn't use the fire truck ladder to enter the creature's ass?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:24:17 AM CDT

    aw, fuck me

    by just pillow talk

    I see Jonah beat me to that. I guess I should have actually clicked on the body of the posts instead of just reading the subject lines.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:25:01 AM CDT

    Therwolf..

    by jonah echo

    Thanks for the heads-up on the Dark City:DC. I'm picking it up on bluray on the way home today. This week has made me poorer. I finally ordered the buy one, get one free Criterion Collection stuff. Bought 2, got 2 free.

    Thanks for the suggestions here. Ultimately I went with:

    Army of Shadows

    Ran

    Days of Heaven

    M

    But my wife has forbade me from buying dvds for awhile. :)

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:25:42 AM CDT

    Danny has become a Ghost of the CoC!`

    by just pillow talk

    All to wreak havoc on infidels.Yeah, I remember Evolution being a mixed bag...some good parts/effects, and then some not-so-good parts.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:27:18 AM CDT

    JPT...that's awesome..

    by jonah echo

    we both went to the same scene..Lord knows there are endless variations on the "he aint dead, but we just mourned him" scene in film. Speaks well of our geekiness we went to Indy first. Loved the "jumped the spinosaurus" thing too.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:28:31 AM CDT

    what the fuck

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    my old posts are gone you say?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:31:35 AM CDT

    awwwww that is seriously fucked up

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I think I know why. Late last night I posted an attack on Capone for selling out and licking Paris Hilton's ass. FUCK CAPONE!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:32:44 AM CDT

    Evolution, Fred

    by jonah echo

    I had free tickets to see it and went with my dad. It was at the theater in Towson near the college. And it was barbarically DIRTY. Not the movie. The theater. I looked down at my feet halfway through the movie, and saw thick brown liquid welling up around my feet. My first panicked thought had me raise up my feet and smell the air. But it was chocolaty, indicating that a chocolate milkshake had just ran down and around my feet.

    This marred the experience. I liked parts of Evolution, but don't feel it even remotely met the promise of Reitman working with Duchovny on an alien comedy.

    Best part was the bird in the mall, and the little creature that bit the old lady. And climbing into the mega-beast's anus.

    Funny you should mention it Fred, since I was watching X-Files:Fight the Future and noting that the hole they set up base around is similar to the metoerite crater in Evolution. And when they go down there, something is crouched in the dark. In Evolution, though, we have the joy of hearing Ethan Supplee shout "OOH! OOH! Blue Monkey! Blue Monkey!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:33:18 AM CDT

    I thought about Indy 3 moment

    by chittychittygangbang

    But being the person I am I went straight to the creature feature analogy.
    Can't deny my true feelings...sigh.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:35:22 AM CDT

    Ok..in honor of Danny..

    by jonah echo

    new topic...movies based around faked deaths? Let's go!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:36:18 AM CDT

    Mall scene in Evolution

    by chittychittygangbang

    Didn't they attract it by letting Stifler sing to it?
    I too had higher hopes for that movie, but it wasn't terrible.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:36:55 AM CDT

    Diabolique...

    by jonah echo

    for starters, but that's all I'll say about it.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:39:03 AM CDT

    Faked Deaths! look at Maverick

    by chittychittygangbang

    One of the best is in the movie Maverick.
    When he and his Indian buddy are talking in native language and nobody else understands them.
    They think he is going off to die at the hands of the Indians.
    Very funny scene.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:39:06 AM CDT

    I'm fucking pissed....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Don't know if I will post much anymore. It really makes me think about this guys. Why continue posting on a site and contributing to their success when they just shit all over me for no apparent reason? What I said about Capone was completely deserved, that entire interview is one big sloppy puff piece. I couldnt believe Capone was reduced to a babbling fan.....and a fan of Paris fucking Hilton? Give me a break. Now I'm being punished the only way they can punish me.....take away all the shit I've posted for the past 6 months or so, that others enjoy reading and get a laugh out of? Geeee.....thanks a hell of a fucking lot AICN.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:41:21 AM CDT

    Crocidile Dundee II

    by chittychittygangbang

    When his friend said "If Mic wants his clothes he can go down and get them himself."
    Everyone was like WTF?
    His buddy was all jumping up and down.Awwww.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:42:53 AM CDT

    Hooper in Jaws

    by chittychittygangbang

    Although they give themselves away a little by allowing him to swim down below.
    Sort of the oppisite of jumping the shark. Ha.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:44:26 AM CDT

    already mentioned but: The Game

    by just pillow talk

    TDK....How about the Count of Monte Cristo?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:51:25 AM CDT

    I can't get away from that W thread

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I just posted what I think is my largest post ever. Took me two hours to write.Judd Apatow was on a board with Kevin Smith (the irony since Danny hates them both, the presence of Tarantino would have been the trifecta) and Smith is talking about how he knows about his fan backlash for stuff like Jersey Girl but that he makes films based on his gut and not how he thinks they'll be received. Apatow jumps in and mentioned how he once read a forum about him and a person who posted was really harsh and it threw him off until he noticed that the poster's name was DGDB and then he shrugged the criticism off.I liked Evolution. Even bought a pre-viewed copy of it way back when.The director's cut of Dark City isn't that different from the theatrical release. In fact, the only reason I picked out the new scenes is because I watch it every year. I would love to see it on Blu-ray.Faked deaths? I'm drawing a blank.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:53:50 AM CDT

    Danny, you're intregal to the group

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Hang in there, brother. We need to be able to discuss the discs I'm sending out to all you guys today.Think of it as doing a favor for the CoC moreso than AICN.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:54:29 AM CDT

    That should be INTEGRAL

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Stupid brain. Needs more coffee.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:56:58 AM CDT

    thanks HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:15:55 AM CDT

    Where the hell is Jarv?

    by toadkillerdog

    Has anyone seen him lately?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:21:48 AM CDT

    God Evolution

    by series7

    Was terrible. Donkeylips???? Didn't taking Lives involve a fake death?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:25:51 AM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    I'm glad you are still around son. It would be a much less colorful place without you. Don't worry about your old posts, just create newer and even better ones!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:31:52 AM CDT

    Well..Danny..consider your history erased..

    by jonah echo

    feel free to start again..Someone over in the Paris talkback(which I agree should never, ever, ever have been posted here)suggested you might actually be Paris Hilton. There is your angle. Write all your posts as if you are Paris and Judd Apatow sitting down in front of a computer, with George Lucas on speaker phone, writing posts. On second thought, that would be horrible. Don't do that.

    The Repo movie sounds like crap. Plenty of movies have compared themselves to Brazil and Blade Runner. Precious few have ever really deserved the comparison. And Paris and the Saw guy totally steamrolled Capone and exploited his being starstruck. Kind of tasteless.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:33:46 AM CDT

    Harry Dunn

    by chittychittygangbang

    In Dumb and Dumber...
    Lloyd: "Harry you're alive!....and a terrible shot.."
    Classic

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:35:28 AM CDT

    Sleeping with the Enemey..

    by jonah echo

    that whole thing was based around the faked death conciet right?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:37:11 AM CDT

    wow..look at that awesome spelling..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:37:59 AM CDT

    Without a Clue

    by jonah echo

    featured a faked death..

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:39:12 AM CDT

    Its pathetic....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The line of his I quoted, that got my shit erased was when the director said something about how Paris really lights up a room. and Capone responds, "Yeah we all saw that a second ago when she walked in!" Seriously....what the fuck?! Quint and Mori show 10 times as much class and self restraint when interviewing people they wanna bone or whatever. Jesus Christ.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:39:23 AM CDT

    ok.. a new topic altogether...

    by jonah echo

    what will it be?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:40:00 AM CDT

    thanks Toad

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:40:39 AM CDT

    Sleeping With The Enemy

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Julia Roberts? When she flushes the ring down the toilet? Dumb move man.....dumb move...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:41:50 AM CDT

    TOPIC: Best Cop Movies....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:45:03 AM CDT

    DGDB...

    by jonah echo

    time to move on. For the record, I agree with your point. But that's the way it is. I don't know what you said, but if you were erased for taking pot shots at Capone, I find it a tad hypocritical that so many posts still exist over there making lewd and spiteful remarks about Paris Hilton. I'm not defending Hilton, but are people banned because of what they say, or who they say it about? Seems to me, Paris becomes an easy target as a result of Capone's interview. If people are banned for attacking him, why not her.

    Anyway, we took a hit in the posts department, so that makes me more determined than ever to keep this board around...So, that if some Weinstein ever finds their way over here, it will still be sitting in the top posts, staring at them. Maybe it's time to go back to the Outlander conversation.

    Danny, lets get this thing back up. Bigger and better.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:47:33 AM CDT

    Forget best..lets do them all!

    by jonah echo

    Dragnet...I have always liked this as a somewhat guilty pleasure.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:48:14 AM CDT

    Maniac Cop...

    by jonah echo

    yea, it's pretty nuts. Not exactly good, but there it is.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:48:53 AM CDT

    Kindergarten Cop

    by jonah echo

    "Why are you eating other peoples lunches????"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:49:57 AM CDT

    Robocop

    by jonah echo

    yes, you see the pattern here with my thought process. For the record, this was actually a really good cop movie, a good sci-fi movie and a great satire. That's pretty accomplished for an 80s action fest.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:50:07 AM CDT

    Dragnet

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I just remember that weird shit with the giant snake. I liked the movie.....but it kinda pisses me off when remakes are just parody based on old shows. Like that crapola Bewitched movie or The Brady Bunch Movie......not that either of those should have ever been made, but its should be a tell-tale sign if the only way you can make it is to parody it-- then its probably a bad fucking idea. Speaking of old tv show remakes.....where the hell is my Munsters movie?!! I want Tim Burton to direct that NOW!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:50:49 AM CDT

    Psycho Cop

    by jonah echo

    There were more than one of these, but both were awful.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:51:36 AM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    Don't get to worked up over the erasure. Look at it like a badge of honor. I wear my seven proudly. Of course I've only ever had three post in the 10 years I've messed around that were any good. The rest were off topic discusssions about Juggs and sports.I keep trying though. some day I'll get the hang this posting deal.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:51:43 AM CDT

    WE OWN THE NIGHT

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Amazing cop film....amazing.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:53:11 AM CDT

    Xiphos_2 -- SEVEN?!!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:53:19 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    Admit it, you liked looking at Rosie in a bustier! And BTW the fake death of Gordon in dark Knight.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:53:30 AM CDT

    Cop and a half

    by chittychittygangbang

    Classic Reynolds flick.
    Wonder what happened to that wise-cracking kid?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:53:56 AM CDT

    Cop and a Half

    by jonah echo

    not great not good but it allows me to tell this story. Ebert gave this 3 stars. A few years later, Siskel was poised to give Broken Arrow(incidentally the movie this site gets it's namesake from) a thumbs up. Roger argued persuasively why the film didn't deserve a thumbs up. Siskel relents, says Roger is right, gives BA a thumbs down and in essence changes his review. And then he asks Roger to follow his example and give Cop and a half a 3 year retroactive thumbs down.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:54:54 AM CDT

    Dragnet

    by xiphos_2

    Was one of the few good movies Tom Hanks in it. Dan Ackroyd was perfect as Joe Fridays nephew.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:55:16 AM CDT

    Timecop

    by chittychittygangbang

    Actually enjoyed this one. Van Damme does have a mullet in most of the movie, but liked the scenario of policing time travel.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:55:21 AM CDT

    wow...thats creepy

    by jonah echo

    we both posted about Cop and a Half. The director is somewhere high-fiving Reynolds because it was mentioned twice on here.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:56:12 AM CDT

    Scanner Cop

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 29, 2008 10:56:53 AM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    I've been on here since nearly the beginning of AICN. Of the seven five were needed. its the last two times I got disappeared i wonder about.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:57:09 AM CDT

    Dead Heat

    by jonah echo

    with Treat Williams and Joe Piscopo as dead zombie cops. Good stuff.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:58:03 AM CDT

    I'm staying on here to support the group.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I think we have done a great thing here by making the AICN TB the thing it should be, a place for film fans to discuss films they love or hate and have fun with it. It seems no one else outside of our 10 or so contributors gets this. We have started more of a community here.....which AICN has not really seen in years. Its more like hanging out with friends and telling stories. Its great and I applaud you dudes and say lets keep up the good work and show the rest of these twats on here how utterly worthless their approach to TBing truly is....

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:58:35 AM CDT

    Super Troopers..

    by jonah echo

    The shnozzberries taste like...shnozzberries..

    This was worth it to see Brian Cox running about like a nut.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:58:45 AM CDT

    Oh God, I didn't like Cop and a half

    by chittychittygangbang

    Hope nobody thought I did. I was just naming cop movies.
    Whew...
    That is weird about Siskel and Ebert. If they gave a review, then they should not have been allowed to revisit, unless they want to use it as fodder for an argument.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:00:00 AM CDT

    FRENCH CONNECTION 1 and 2.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    2 doesnt get enough love.....

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:00:04 AM CDT

    Lethal Weapon

    by jonah echo

    It might as well be included now. Seriously, this is a standard bearer beyond even it's reputation I think. I don't return to it much, but it was and is great.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:01:46 AM CDT

    Bow down to Cobra!!

    by chittychittygangbang

    'Crime is a disease. Meet the cure.'
    I admit I saw this one the theater.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:02:45 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    Mostly Siskel wasnt Ebert to really change his review, just to admit it was bad, and Siskel was mostly doing it to razz Ebert in the middle of his humbly agreeing. Siskel didnt really change his review, as much as he was sort of giving a pass to the movie inspite of his mariginal liking of it.

    Ebert refused to change the Cop and a Half thumbs up. It was mostly about Gene reminding Roger of his bad taste, and restoring the rivalry feel in a moment where one man had actually influenced the other to see something differently. Man, I miss seeing Gene and Rog on that show.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:02:58 AM CDT

    Copland wasn't bad

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was one of my favorite Stallone performances.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:03:35 AM CDT

    3 words. TANGO.AND.CASH.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 29, 2008 11:04:21 AM CDT

    Heat

    by jonah echo

    totally awesome Heat...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:05:04 AM CDT

    Howdy fellas...

    by mr. nice gaius

    Just catching up on all the ruckus. I see where Mori dropped the Ban Hammer on eggsalad. But it looks like he deleted a number of other people's posts in the process.DGDB - your comments in Capone's TB don't really sound like ban material. However, did you engage eggsalad at all? I'm wondering if you suffered some sort of collateral damage.Xiphos - have you seen the Lucas/Indy 5 TB? Wow! Isn't that shogunshin guy the one that got you zapped?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:05:13 AM CDT

    Somebody above asked about Lost Jarv

    by xiphos_2

    His work put him on computer time out so his access is restricted for the time being.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:05:25 AM CDT

    Undercover Brother..

    by jonah echo

    yes, I actually liked this. I wish I could feel bad about that.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:05:44 AM CDT

    I always loved Siskel and Ebert spats

    by chittychittygangbang

    I always heard the rumor that they hated each other so much, that they took different flights to avoid even being on the same plane.
    Now that may be a rumor, but I think they got better ratings if people thought they got into fisticuffs after every episode.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:07:24 AM CDT

    Gotta go for awhile..but Il be back..

    by jonah echo

    later. I leave the talkback in capable hands. Just don't let the W TB trounce us. I expect the Lucas TB to fade by tomorrow.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:09:32 AM CDT

    Canine cop movies

    by chittychittygangbang

    Turner and Hooch was the best.
    Didn't they have about three of the K-9 series with Belushi and that German Shepard?
    Oh god, I forgot Chuck Norris did one as well.
    I think most of them had the slow- motion-dog-shaking-the-water-off shot.
    That is the doggy movie equivalent of the money shot.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:10:33 AM CDT

    MNG

    by xiphos_2

    It was either that or somebody on staff is a LA Lakers fan and got upset at my gentle ribbing of Laker fan. Its a toss up. I for the most part now just stay here in this TB. When it dies, I'm going to cry like a girl who's BFF has moved to the other side of the world and she doesn't have text messaging.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:11:07 AM CDT

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Naaaahhhh.......I didnt say much to eggsalad, just that I wish her mother had gone ahead with that later term abortion, but that was yesterday morning. I really think it was the Capone thing as that was late last night at like 11:00pm and this morning my shits gone.
    Isnt shogun the guy that posted that original fake ass Indy review with only details from the trailer that Merrick put up?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:12:27 AM CDT

    Narc

    by series7

    One of my favorite cop movies. Liotta was a crazy MF in that movie.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:12:48 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    Ebert says he loved Gene, and there were times when he hated him. Especially early on. He said they were good friends, and that their rivalry was real too. He said they weren't hang out at each other's houses on the weekend friends, but their wives had said that each "cared about the other's opinion on anything above most anyone elses." But Roger did say that many times the producers would reshoot some review segments not because they weren't fighting enough, but too much. The guy had said "If you go too far, it's just uncomfortable. Apparently, Gene and Rog were sometimes too opposing on the views. There are some hilarious clips on youtube where they continue long after the cameras roll. One in particular has an apparently drunken Roger telling all kinds of catholic jokes, while Gene smugly smiles and joins in.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:12:56 AM CDT

    Police Academy movies count?

    by chittychittygangbang

    One of my favorite moments in that series was the dad and son that would fight each other.
    The sister would laugh and the mother would grab them by the ears and break them up.
    I remember the son joined the force and they hit a speed bump and his shitgun went off.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:14:13 AM CDT

    My view would be

    by jonah echo

    they were friends, and respected each other enough they didn't pull their punches when doing the show. It was an admirable pairing, I think. We will probably never see it's like again in popular film criticism.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:16:58 AM CDT

    I always wanted them to go at it

    by chittychittygangbang

    I wanted Siskel and Ebert to fistfight until the quitting time air horn went off. They would then get up and shake hands and tell each other 'Ok see you tomorrow.'
    No really I grew up watching only their reviews. So I based much of my later movie choices with them.
    Of course we didn't have cable back then, so I didn't really have much more to go on.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:17:52 AM CDT

    Best cop movie EVER!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    any Seagal film...any of them...pick one...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:18:44 AM CDT

    Great cop movies is too easy

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Hard Boiled, L.A. Confidential, Serpico, The Negotiator, Dirty Harry, Hot Fuzz, Training Day, The Untouchables, State of Grace, Above The Law, Memories of Murder.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:19:34 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo Broken Arrow

    by series7

    Thats where this site got its name from? I kind of remember a line in the movie are something. Do you know what the line was? I love that movie! Who's seen Howie Longs, Fire Down Below (I think, that could be the Steven Segal movie) where Howie is a Smoke jumper? Speaking of Howie just saw that there is a new Behind Enemy Lines movie and its produced by WWE???? First they snag Renny Harlin now they are making sequels to series they didn't start??? Just wait, a WWE movie will take away some acting/directing/best oscar, mark my words.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:20:30 AM CDT

    Yes I know Howie plays football

    by series7

    Bust Micheal Cena reminds me of him, hence the Danzistion.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:22:29 AM CDT

    Training Day

    by series7

    Does it still boggle the mind how Denzel got best actor nom for that movie? And Ethan was de-moted to supporting? I mean couldn't they just Amadeus it and give both actors the best actor nom?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:24:16 AM CDT

    Firestorm was Long movie

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was pure cheese, but I sat through it no problem.
    Line in Broken Arrow was when Long asked him something about setting off a nuke underground I think.
    Travolta said 'I know, ain't it cool!'

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:26:23 AM CDT

    Ethan should got the nod just for the tub scene

    by chittychittygangbang

    That was such a great scene.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:26:57 AM CDT

    Ethan Hawke

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I thought he was awesome in Training Day. He made the movie for me.Firestorm. I had forgotten all about that one.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:27:36 AM CDT

    Is it me or does anyone else

    by series7

    Think that Ebert and Siskel had the greatest jobs in the world?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:29:46 AM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by series7

    Sweet, I remember knowing that back in the day for some reason. Totally fergot about it untill now. Firstorm was pure cheese, but good cheese, kind of like string cheese.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:36:07 AM CDT

    Training Day

    by chittychittygangbang

    After I watched it, I was very sure I had just seen Hawke have his break-through role.
    I almost forgot Denzel was in the movie.
    Wonder why he didn't get A-list status after that?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:37:43 AM CDT

    48 Hours....Red Heat.....16 Blocks

    by just pillow talk

    I guess Zodiac is too borderline to be included...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:39:02 AM CDT

    hehehe...Dick Tracy

    by just pillow talk

    Deja Vu...The Hidden

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:40:15 AM CDT

    Dirty Harry movies....

    by just pillow talk

    The Rookie.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:42:33 AM CDT

    Slater tells Travolta:

    by jonah echo

    'You've lost your mind"

    Travolta: "I know. Ain't it Cool?"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:42:58 AM CDT

    Beverley Hills Cop?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Are we talking serious cop movies or comedy?
    Or both, like Kindergarten Cop.
    Favorite line from that movie..
    Little kid: "Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina."
    Kimbell: "Thanks for the tip."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:44:45 AM CDT

    Fire Down Below is Seagal..

    by jonah echo

    and it contained the IMMORTAL line "If your father knew how stupid you were, he would trade you in for a pet monkey."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:45:43 AM CDT

    I didnt like Training Day.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...it seemed really fake to me. Some terrible casting for the gangsters...especially that Maori guy who usually plays terrorists pretending to be a cholo. Terrible.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:47:56 AM CDT

    HOD-- did you ever check out Seagal's Pistol Whipped?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 11:48:32 AM CDT

    new topic...best chase scene..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 29, 2008 11:50:37 AM CDT

    Danny, maybe they were saving Maori guy

    by chittychittygangbang

    They were going to have a sequel called Training Day 2: Training is Over!
    Maori is pretending to be a gangster and is really part of a sleeper cell of terrorists.
    Hawke must break them up before they strike their targets.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:50:47 AM CDT

    Ronin or Bourne Supremacy

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 11:52:08 AM CDT

    Running Scared

    by toadkillerdog

    With Billy Crystal and Geoffrey Hines. A great pairing.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:52:44 AM CDT

    Best chase scene? Easy

    by chittychittygangbang

  • Jul 29, 2008 11:54:17 AM CDT

    Or Smokey and the Bandit

    by chittychittygangbang

    Whole movie was a chase scene.
    One of my personal favorites.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:55:18 AM CDT

    Chase scene in Striking Distance

    by chittychittygangbang

    Wasn't bad at all.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:56:22 AM CDT

    and Dr. Dre in Training Day......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    whose appearance is followed moments later by a prominently featured Dr. Dre song!!! Yeeeeeehahhh...........

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:56:35 AM CDT

    Does chase include Friday the 13th?

    by chittychittygangbang

    As the kids are running at breakneck speeds and Jason is ambling along and still catches them?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:57:25 AM CDT

    all chase scenes..not just cars..

    by jonah echo

    For example, anyone here see Val Lewton's Cat People. There is a scene in there that is amazing.

    Jane Randolph's character is swimming in the pool. We the audience know that Randolph is the "other woman" in the relationship between Oliver and Irena. The audience also knows that Irena fears she is a shape-shifter capable of becoming a panther.

    Randolph hears growls, sees an ominous shadow on the walls of the pool house. Frightend, she leaves and the camera follows her home. She hears footsteps, and then the chase begins. Women's high-heel footsteps give way to what sounds like the padding, stalking gate of a cat on the soundtrack. The sequence goes on, is bathed in exaggerated shadow, follows down a lonely street. We have two perspectives, and the suspense comes from the fact Lewton never really lets us know, whose perspective and whose footsteps the other belonged to. Brilliant work.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:58:24 AM CDT

    Jurassic T-Rex after jeep

    by chittychittygangbang

    That was a good one. I like where Goldblum falls on the shifter and the guy say "Bloody move!"
    Then he grins after he outruns the T-Rex. Loved that guy.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:59:16 AM CDT

    the cerebral car chase in We Own The Night....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....is awesome.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:59:53 AM CDT

    The Fifth Element car chase..

    by jonah echo

    Nine thousand different flavors of fun. And the music on the soundtrack synched perfectly with the reveal of the floating barricade of police cars.

    "Badda-boom!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:00:12 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    I love Smokey and the Bandit! One of the funniest movies of all time. Burt and Jackie at the very top of their games. And a kick ass car too! Sally Field with a beautiful round ass. Great movie.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:02:19 PM CDT

    Michael Meyers

    by jonah echo

    stalking Laurie Strode through that house. Amazing filmmaking and it still to this day feels like those primitive nightmares where you vainly try and outrun something ill defined but unquestionably malevolent.

    The fact Carpenter invests you on the nightmare level, without questioning logic is the thing that seperates that movie from the other slashers.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:02:38 PM CDT

    When kid is chasing power line surge

    by chittychittygangbang

    In My Science Project.
    They are hauling ass and all of the sudden he turns on the blower or nitrous or something and his sidekick start hollering.
    Cool stuff.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:03:06 PM CDT

    parkour chase in Casino Royale

    by jonah echo

    great stuff there.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:03:39 PM CDT

    going to lunch

    by chittychittygangbang

  • Jul 29, 2008 12:04:02 PM CDT

    good one Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    nice obscure, but memorable.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:05:10 PM CDT

    Chase scene in Ong Bak

    by hawaiian organ donor

    With Jaa jumping over cars.I still haven't seen Pistol Whipped.Damn W TB keeps drawing me in.I think Spielberg has the best job in the world. More than anyone else, I'd trade places with him.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:05:29 PM CDT

    Oh I totally forgot.....I take back Ronin and Bourne....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Those are 2nd and 3rd, respectively. Number one greatest car chase ever is totally The Transporter........that first scene with the bank robbers in the car.....AMAZING SHIT!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:05:48 PM CDT

    the Ringwraiths after Arwen

    by jonah echo

    Love that one for it's epic, grand feel and it's also the first big moment after the intro where the trilogy gives us our first glimpses of what we were in for.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:06:47 PM CDT

    Blues Brothers...

    by jonah echo

    you betcha!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:07:02 PM CDT

    Monsters Inc

    by series7

    Door chase scene. That was amazing.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:08:04 PM CDT

    the military chasing the Iron Giant

    by jonah echo

    who is holding Hogarth in his hands. They fall over the cliff, and Hogarth realizes his friend can fly. It all culminating in that powerful moment that triggers the IG's weapons system.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:08:45 PM CDT

    Any scene from Tremors.

    by series7

  • Jul 29, 2008 12:09:03 PM CDT

    the highway race in Transformers..

    by jonah echo

    I appreciated that more than any other scene in the film.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:10:06 PM CDT

    Leislie Neilson being chased

    by series7

    by the train in Wrongfully Accused. I love that movie.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:10:17 PM CDT

    the T-Rex through city chase

    by jonah echo

    the best part of Lost World..

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:13:23 PM CDT

    I like the low speed chase in Way of the Gun

    by xiphos_2

    Plus Smokey and the Bandi, the Blues Brothers, Ronin, Striking Distance and Terminator 3

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:13:28 PM CDT

    Godzilla

    by series7

    Chased with Heliocopters. All of Cloverfield. Even if Cloverfield was just a special feature on the Godzilla DVD.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:14:42 PM CDT

    Worst Chase scene ever

    by series7

    David Morse being chased by Jack Nicholson in The Crossing Guard. To fat middle aged men jogging at a snail pace...boring.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:14:54 PM CDT

    Slam me for this choice

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But the freeway chase scene in The Island.I second the scene from Monsters, Inc. Whenever I'm being a prick and show off my projector to people, that's the scene I put.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:16:57 PM CDT

    Xiphos, good call with T3

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That scene was going to go over budget and the studio said they needed to cut it. Arnold took his checkbook out and cut them a check because he said it was crucial to the movie.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:20:31 PM CDT

    Dash being chased in The Incredibles

    by toadkillerdog

    When he realizes just what kind of power he has, and relishes it.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:22:36 PM CDT

    T3 chase scene

    by series7

    Was really awesome. T3 overall was very good. Gives me some hope for T4 to not totally blow.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:23:25 PM CDT

    OHH I GOT IT!!

    by series7

    Longest chase scene ever!!!! DUEL! thats all that movie is.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:25:06 PM CDT

    Disclouse

    by series7

    Chase scene in the cyber file system world.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:25:12 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Did you read the recent article on PETA trying to get the military to stop trauma testing on animals? Fuck. I had no idea about any of this shit......they blew up a donkey with a grenade and got the medical people to try and keep it alive for two hours, they chain down pigs and monkeys and shoot them or burn them with blow torches. What the fuck?!! Fuck that. The animals didnt fucking enlist in this shit. Enough is enough with this animal testing bullshit. I'm sorry......but this fucking infuriates me!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:29:54 PM CDT

    T 3

    by xiphos_2

    If you take the word Terminator out of the title The movie is pretty good as a chase flick. It stumbles a little as a Terminator flick. Mother of God I wish it would stop raining. I sort of have a day off an the sky decided to piss on us like it has a bad prostate. Fucking rainy season.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:32:52 PM CDT

    chase scene in The Host..

    by jonah echo

    with the family chasing the mutant along the river's edge, and seeing it crawling, leaping and swinging it's way to safety.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:33:45 PM CDT

    Yeah I pretty much hate the military

    by series7

    Even though I've pretty much been in it all my life until now. I hate how we are suppose to give a shit that retired people are veterns and stuff. Hey I like that you are protecting me and all, but is it really my fault that evil people exsist? I'd rather there'd be a more covert military that didn't parade around all the time. Rather then a military where probably 70% of it are just wasted personel dealing with burocratic BS. That and how can anyone who's ever been kicked out of the military for anything in the past 8 years, when their boss (W.) gets punished for nothing.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:33:54 PM CDT

    Jack running away from cannibals

    by jonah echo

    in Pirates 2

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:35:21 PM CDT

    Series7

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Did you retire or what?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:36:04 PM CDT

    Sorry

    by series7

    How can anyone agree with someone getting kicked out of the military in the past 8 years...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:36:22 PM CDT

    Kontroll..

    by jonah echo

    that movie has some awesome chases. One takes place down in the subway tunnel as two competing guards try to have a footrace in front of an oncoming subway train, and the scene at the end where the main character is pursued by a killer, and the chase is tense because both are mostly walking, staggering along. The hero has no room or energy to break into a full run, so the killer keeps gaining on him, and then lagging, and so on and so forth.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:37:16 PM CDT

    Neo trying to get out of the Matrix..

    by jonah echo

    and agent smith keeps hopping bodies coming after him at the end of the first film.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:37:56 PM CDT

    Series7

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Sometimes there are those cases of rape or attacks on civilians and shit like that, where they weren't kicked out fast and enough and did it numerous times before anyone seemed to care. I think in many cases they should be much more harsh on punishment in the military. Of course this is a hard sell when they are desperate for more meat for the grinder.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:38:17 PM CDT

    Batpod, Joker, armored car chase..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 29, 2008 12:38:57 PM CDT

    DG

    by series7

    Naw my dad was military. I went to a military academy for awhile, until I got kicked out (hence the frustration). But I'm glad I'm out, though since I got kicked out I can really call myself a strain on society since my schooling costed more then an ivy leaugue school and I got paid doing it, and didn't owe anything in return.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:42:36 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by series7

    Yeah I know all about the kind of cases where people get kicked out of the military. Those are rare cases, its mainly stupid stuff like adultery, drinking, petty crimes. Bush has done all of that.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:46:21 PM CDT

    Series7

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It doesnt really make sense why Bush would do that. It seems the current administration is desperate to fill the empty seats with all their added incentives, shorter commitments, dropping some of the education requirements, letting in some parolees........why would they crack down harder on crimes/violations....whatever they are called.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:55:22 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by series7

    If you have (2) alcohol incidents in the military you get kicked out. Sometimes they allow three if you have a good record. But if your known for driking you get the boot at 2. And its not even like getting arrasted, DUI, MIP it can be coming back to the barracks drunk and being loud. It could be that you where at something, or with someone when they got in trouble. It happenes all the time.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 12:59:45 PM CDT

    Series

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Well that is odd......very odd. I say save the drunks...and save the animals.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:06:30 PM CDT

    Yeah man

    by series7

    The military is a terrible terrible waste of money. My roomate is still in the military, and their new Captain doesn't drink so of course he looks down on people who do. And some guys went to a bar on a port call, and it got wind that a fight may break out, so they sent some people from the boat to collect the sailors. Turns out non of it was true, they were all back in their hotel rooms, the guy wanted to make sure that they were all there. Saw that the hotel room was a mess. A bunch of people got in trouble for it and 2 of them already had an alcohol incident so they got kicked out.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:10:04 PM CDT

    Let's avoid the political stuff here

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I got enough of that over in the W TB. I have fewer, if any, problems with military folk justifying the invasion. But those chickenhawk MF'ers really deserve the wood chipper, inch by inch. I'm furious right now because of that jerkoff over there.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:13:47 PM CDT

    oh calm yourself HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You should sit back, take a deep breath and repeat the words of the great Roger Murtaugh, "I'm gettin' too ole' fo' this sheeeet."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:15:11 PM CDT

    Chase scene in Mad Max

    by chittychittygangbang

    When they were going after the fake tanker of fuel.
    Jeeesus that rocked.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:17:17 PM CDT

    Let it go HOD - I came here for a refresher

    by toadkillerdog

    I am sure I will jump back in though. But for now, lets do B movie love! I have a topic not yet covered. Favorite foreign schlock!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:17:46 PM CDT

    Mad Max and the Chitty Chitty Gang Bang of the Crystal Skullfuc

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Would you believe I have never seen the first Mad Max? Only Thunderdome.......I never thought it was that great.....Thunderdome that is.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:17:50 PM CDT

    Bruce the shark chasing Hooper, Quint, Brody

    by chittychittygangbang

    Prime example of the score of a movie adding to the total experience.
    If described the scene, most people are like whaaat?
    But show them the finished product and they are like coool.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:19:48 PM CDT

    Road Warrior...the second one Danny

    by just pillow talk

    That has them chasing the oil tanker full of sand.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:21:10 PM CDT

    Yeah I really don't want to get into military stuff

    by series7

    Either. Its just pointless. How about, best animal movie. I'd say Milo and Otis.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:21:54 PM CDT

    I tried to watch Dragon Wars once....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    ...the premise is cool and the trailer is fun. But fuck me does that movie suck wet dog-shit through a glass straw. You know how much I love the cheap monster shit....but I couldnt get through 45 minutes of this fucking thing. It was chore to watch!! Just horrible.....horrible horrible.....

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:24:16 PM CDT

    just pillow talk

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    aaawww I see.....which is the best of the 3 in your opinion?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:24:25 PM CDT

    Road Warrior and Mad Max

    by chittychittygangbang

    Both very good stuff.
    Highly recommend them both.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:30:47 PM CDT

    Road Warrior

    by toadkillerdog

    That is the superior movie. Even had the gay dude from Commando in it and wearing the same chain mail wife beater too!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:32:37 PM CDT

    That was the guy with the butt

    by chittychittygangbang

    exposed through the pants wasn't it?
    That guy was hardcore.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:36:47 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    Yep, that was the dude! Cracked me up no end. And then his killer take in Commando!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:38:58 PM CDT

    He was a one man wrecking crew

    by chittychittygangbang

    He could have stormed the compound by himself.
    Also I liked the Jason on steriods guy.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:40:29 PM CDT

    Fred loved Road Warrior

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    That was the first R rated movie Fred saw on cable! Fred remembers the tent getting pulled off by the trcuk Mel was driving and showing boobies!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:40:50 PM CDT

    gay Commando dude....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Damn....now that is an awesome death I forgot about, when he gets piped. I love the steam blasting out of the thing piercing his chest. Fucking awesome.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:42:35 PM CDT

    And they guy that had his head 'sawed' in half by the blade

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    That Arnie threw!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:43:13 PM CDT

    Commando kill

    by chittychittygangbang

    Then Arnold tells him to "Let off some steam."
    Awesome.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:46:56 PM CDT

    Fred knows this is awful movie

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    But it had best Arnie voice imitation - The Simpsons. " I was Hired to Leeed not to reeed"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:48:41 PM CDT

    Arnie quotes

    by chittychittygangbang

    Wasn't he required to have one of those quotes in each movie?
    Think about it. All of them had at least one.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:49:43 PM CDT

    Arnie quote from Predator

    by chittychittygangbang

    "Get to da choppaaa!!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:51:18 PM CDT

    Arnie quote from Predator

    by chittychittygangbang

    Throws knife, impaling guy to post.."Stick around!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:54:28 PM CDT

    If it bleeds, we can kill it

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

  • Jul 29, 2008 1:55:02 PM CDT

    Arnie quote from Kindergarten Cop

    by chittychittygangbang

    "I'm the party poopaa!"
    Blasts shotgun into sofa.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:55:12 PM CDT

    Conan

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women

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  • Jul 29, 2008 1:56:51 PM CDT

    Arnie quote from T2

    by chittychittygangbang

    "Give me your clothes, your boots and your bike."
    Bikers start laughing and hardcore ass kicking ensues....

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:02:09 PM CDT

    From Twins...

    by chittychittygangbang

    "Thanks for the cookies, I look forward to tossing them."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:12:31 PM CDT

    Officer...there is a man in my house..

    by jonah echo

    and he is eatig my cake...and KISSING MY WIFE!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:13:37 PM CDT

    "Why don't you make another clone,

    by jonah echo

    so then you can go f*** yourself in the a**."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:14:52 PM CDT

    Foreign schlock..

    by jonah echo

    good choice of topic..let the games begin. I think many people think of foreign films as being arty, high-brow, or somehow more cereberal than american stuff. Ha! Not always!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:16:52 PM CDT

    Returner..

    by jonah echo

    It's a Japanese action sci-fi that wishes it had Spielberg's job, but then it sometimes seems like it want's Michael Bay's job too.

    It featured Kaneshiro, time travel, aliens, an old woman with a cigar who liked to blow things up, and a transformer a few years before transformers became cool again. For a fun time, call Returner.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:17:50 PM CDT

    Rawhead Rex!

    by chittychittygangbang

    Made in Ireland! Does that count?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:20:02 PM CDT

    Swedish vamp flick called Frostbitten..

    by jonah echo

    This thing is a good time. There are talking dogs, death by lawn gnome, and the same plot as 30 Days of Night. A town of darkness for a month, and lots of vampires hanging about. The part where a clueless drunk girl sits on a couch at a party and doesnt notice that a steady stream of people are being pulled behind the sofa and mutilated, with large red pools gathering around her feet is classic.

    Netflix has this if you want to try it.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:21:17 PM CDT

    Chitty it sure does..and knowing your

    by jonah echo

    monster fix, I have an irish creature feature for you that you will love, provided you haven't seen it.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:22:03 PM CDT

    HAHAHA! I love it!

    by thekylegassproject

    STILL KICKING HUH FELLAS?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:22:40 PM CDT

    What's the topic of the hour?

    by thekylegassproject

  • Jul 29, 2008 2:23:21 PM CDT

    I don't know much foreign schlock

    by chittychittygangbang

    Although my wife thinks Kung Fu Hustle is.
    I think it is a classic beyond imagination.
    Thanks God for Spike TV

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:24:10 PM CDT

    Isolation

    by jonah echo

    It's a creepy Thing/Alien hybrid about an irish farmer, who in order to keep his dad's farm running agrees to let a company use hormone treatments on his cows.

    Something goes very wrong of course, and the mutant calf spawned from one of these messed up cows is on the loose, with serious and crazy repercussions. It isnt a comedy either, though it sounds like it. It's a tense and enjoyable, if somewhat bleak horror film. Again, I saw it through netflix.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:24:29 PM CDT

    What is it Jonah?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Gimme, gimme, gimme.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jul 29, 2008 2:25:11 PM CDT

    Boy Eats Girl

    by jonah echo

    a not so classic irish zombie movie with Samantha Mumba. Skip it.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:28:53 PM CDT

    Wait, I think I have seen that..

    by chittychittygangbang

    That storyline seems very familiar, as I couldn't remember if it was a comedy of horror.
    Is it old?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:40:04 PM CDT

    Samantha Mumba

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Is that the girl in The Time Machine?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:49:00 PM CDT

    EARTHQUAKE

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Not the movie - a real one in L.A.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:50:52 PM CDT

    You shouldn't drink and bake

    by hawaiian organ donor

    See you at the party, Richter!Consider this a divorce!Don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired.I don't do requests.HA HA HA, you think this is the real Quaid...? IT IS!Well I'm sorry to disappoint you but you're gonna live to enjoy all the glorious fruits life has got to offer - acne, shaving, premature ejaculation... and your first divorce.You wanna be a farmer? Here's a couple of acres!No sequel for you.You're luggage!They caught a train.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:51:57 PM CDT

    EARTHQUAKE

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 2:52:46 PM CDT

    EARTHQUAKE

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yup.......it was a pretty damn big one too. Most of my building ran outside to the parking lot.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 2:58:39 PM CDT

    Chitty..no, Isolation is relatively new..

    by jonah echo

    2006 or 2005.look it up.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:01:12 PM CDT

    Kindergarten Cop quote

    by chittychittygangbang

    "Oh I'm sorry, where are my manners? My name is Dectective Kimbell (pumps shotgun) and I love my car."

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:03:31 PM CDT

    quote from Running Man

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    "....well I hope you left enough room for my fist because I’m going to ram it into your stomach and break your goddamn spine!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:03:39 PM CDT

    I'm heading home

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Going to go spend time with my dad and slam back some wine to calm my nerves. I'll contact everyone via e-mail later to let you know what the FedEx tracking numbers are. If Toad comes back, convince him to contact me via e-mail so I can send something to him as well.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:05:02 PM CDT

    Arnold confronting Satan in End of Days.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    "You want to fuck with me?! You are a fucking choir boy compared to me! A CHOIR BOY!!!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:05:54 PM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:13:04 PM CDT

    You know, I think this TB can have a long life..

    by jonah echo

    longer than the 2012 TB. We are cruising modestly along, and will be in the 2000s by tonight. Not too shabby. Love to have this thing still going whenever we find out the fate of Outlander.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:14:43 PM CDT

    Danny, that's my problem

    by chittychittygangbang

    Most of these I've watched recently on AMC, TNT and TBS.
    I miss the good quotes like that one from End Of Days.
    Damn, I got tears in my eyes and my fellow office workers are askimg me what is the matter.
    Shit that was funny...
    Only Arnold could tell Satan that, or maybe 2for2tru

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:14:59 PM CDT

    LOVE LIVE JESUS CAVIEZAL!!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:17:17 PM CDT

    HOD sip the wine, slam the beer

    by chittychittygangbang

    I've got a bottle of red from Biltmore in North Carolina I may get into this evening.
    With a steak of course.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:19:32 PM CDT

    you guys are real men....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:19:35 PM CDT

    I popped by Talkback cherry in the 2012 TB

    by chittychittygangbang

    You always remember your first time (looking down and turning red...)

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:19:43 PM CDT

    you guys are real men....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I go home and drink Vitamin Water after a hard day.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:22:28 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That's funny, I've been exploring my state lately and been visiting NC wineries. Last time I was up in Asheville I stopped into the Biltmore Estate and was very impressed with their wine making operation. I hope it's good.I can't join you with the steak but I'll do my best to fancy up the tofu.OK, leaving for real.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:23:32 PM CDT

    On the way home, and picking up

    by jonah echo

    the Dark City DC when I'm out. Expect me to be babbling about later. So if you haven't seen it, remedy that. Are you guys all Dark City veterans?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:24:18 PM CDT

    Good evening guys..catch you later tonight..

    by jonah echo

    much later..

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:25:32 PM CDT

    And I'm a real man with a beer gut and love handles

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I could use the vitamin water.And I don't sip anything. I'm a waiters worst nightmare. I guzzle water as soon as they top me up. Coffee, beer, wine, juice, I slam it back. My wife calls me a fish."This ain't no sippin' tea!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:25:38 PM CDT

    Dark City rocks....haven't seen it in years....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:26:31 PM CDT

    HOD about Asheville

    by chittychittygangbang

    My bro-in-law is up there now looking for a job and apartment.
    I haven't been in a while, but when he moves up there I will definatly go back as much as I can.
    Very cool town.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:37:20 PM CDT

    Seen Dark City once

    by chittychittygangbang

    Liked it, but I need to see it again to refresh.
    Can't beleive it has been 10 years ago when it was out.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:41:05 PM CDT

    North Carolina....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....are there fine females on that side of the world?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:43:14 PM CDT

    I live in Mississippi

    by chittychittygangbang

    And I have been all over the South and other parts of the country.
    The south has the best looking girls period.
    I've even had other people from other places say that.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:45:46 PM CDT

    I wonder which state has the ugliest women

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:51:16 PM CDT

    Oklahoma Danny - by about 20 miles

    by toadkillerdog

    I was posted there for several years, and I know!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:52:53 PM CDT

    What about Alaska?

    by chittychittygangbang

  • Jul 29, 2008 3:55:34 PM CDT

    I kid, I've never been to Alaska

    by chittychittygangbang

    The girls in Seagel's acid trip in On Deadly Ground were hot.
    Naked too.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:56:25 PM CDT

    Jewel the singer is from Alaska

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Have you seen her lately? Fine as fuck....GOOD LAWD!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:59:00 PM CDT

    Ahhh Jewel

    by chittychittygangbang

    Never forget the first time I saw her wear a tight shirt.
    Damn....

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  • Jul 29, 2008 3:59:33 PM CDT

    Oklahoma eh? Hhhhhmmmm......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    To be honest....most women in Hawaii are very ugly. They are large and gorilla like, and mean looking.....the hot ass Polynesian women in calendars and shit.....bullshit. Those chicks are from Laguna Beach.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:01:05 PM CDT

    Jewel has a killer rack......that is fo sho

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 4:07:26 PM CDT

    Damn Jewel.......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I can't work now. My hands are shaking. DAMN YOU JEWEL!!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:14:26 PM CDT

    Didn't she get that tooth fixed...

    by chittychittygangbang

    That was the only chinq in the armor I could find.
    Never forget the first day I found out she was packing heat upstairs.
    They're real too.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:21:26 PM CDT

    I liked her fucked up teeth.....she is perfect man...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 4:24:20 PM CDT

    RIDE WITH THE DEVIL

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Doesnt she get topless in that thing?

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:26:14 PM CDT

    Jewel does make a case for...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Having it all.
    1: Looks. No doubt.
    2: Personality. I've seen interviews.
    3: Talent. Not only singing, but playing guitar, piano, etc.
    Yep she covers it all.
    Whoever ends up with is a lucky man.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:28:49 PM CDT

    I've never seen it...

    by chittychittygangbang

    But I did google her name with images and found what you are looking for. Turn filter off.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 4:33:13 PM CDT

    Anyone who doubts the force of my Jewel must see this....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Girl got body...BAM! http://tinyurl.com/6mm4me

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:01:36 PM CDT

    oh fuck.....DONT LET IT DIE!!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 5:06:15 PM CDT

    Red Heat

    by therewolf

    Belushi: "... Until then, you cannot touch his ass." Arnie: "I do not want to touch his ass. I want to make him talk!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:07:48 PM CDT

    Jewel is the perfect woman

    by hawaiian organ donor

    She's full figured and has a brain in her head. And she looks great without makeup. And her music ain't bad.The girls in NC are hot so long as they aren't heifers. Lots of southern belles on the Wake Forest campus.This Sierra Nevada ale is going down smoooooooth.That fuckin' douchebag on the W thread bothers me. I want to squeeze his head like a pimple.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:14:14 PM CDT

    DGDB you're really going to hate me now

    by xiphos_2

    Besides me being in the Marines and a direct receipiant of medical skills learned on animals, I know Jewel, or more accurately I know her old man Ty Murray, 7 time All Around World Champion Cowboy. I went to High School with him.FYI, she looks good up close, real good. I only met her once back in the summer of 2001.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:27:17 PM CDT

    Godspeed gentlemen

    by xiphos_2

    Good luck keeping this TB afloat. I hope its still around when I get a chance to log back in.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:32:50 PM CDT

    Xiphos_2

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Aaaawww you bastard. I just dont understand why they cant train their medics alongside trauma doctors in the craziest ER's in the country. What the fuck? A donkey is not a human being....shouldn't they we working on real human beings? It just doesnt make sense.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 5:55:36 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    Last post before I sign off for a few days. I think the story you are referencing pertains to the members of the US Army Special Forces Medic School and not regular combat medics. Team Members going through the Medic Course down in Texas as a test of learning the import skills they posses. The SF medic student has to the keep wounded animals alive for the duration of the course in order to graduate, that's one year. At the end of the course a SF medic has completed medical and Dental School and can do just about anything excpt for opening up the cranial cavity and performing surgery. Even though they do. Your question about why not train medics besides Doctors is due to the fact the Docs don't want them there. Those spots are reserved for "real" Doctors or Surgeons. You can blme the Nazis for not letting them use real wounded people for training. That whole Dr. Mengle thing.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:01:08 PM CDT

    I shouldn't post when I'm tired

    by xiphos_2

    That post above made less sense then normal. Mr Blood, You're smart one, you can figure out what I meant.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:06:16 PM CDT

    Xiphos

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It still doesnt make it right. Torturing animals should never be accepted in our society, no matter what the cause. It says a lot about us as people if we are willing to harm a living creature with no regard for its well being. And of course there is the argument that this knowledge is benefiting the troops....well, to be honest. I don't really care. The troops are going in to willingly harm others. That comes with some consequences. Animals suffer enough to keep us fed, they dont need to suffer anymore.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:09:38 PM CDT

    and that is in no way intended to knock military...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That probably sounded different than intended.
    I'm saying its bullshit they dont work alongside doctors for their training. And though it is unfortunate for anyone to be hurt in war, they are enlisting willingly to be put in harms way........animals should not have to endure agony for this.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:10:23 PM CDT

    AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 29, 2008 6:24:59 PM CDT

    Danny..you put the talback over 2000

    by jonah echo

    and you defeated the neck..Not too bad for a ghost..

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:43:58 PM CDT

    Nice job guys..

    by jonah echo

    Went to bestbuy to get dark city. Sold out. I was impressed. Then they told me they only got four copies to begin with. WHAAA???

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  • Jul 29, 2008 6:51:37 PM CDT

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    Now, I don't disagree with your overall statement about animals, and If the world was perfect and things could work that way I am in toatal agreement, but unfortunantly, that's how has to be for now. Since the skills a person learned kept me and others going after being injured, I can't complain all that much about the practice of using animals.Now if they would shoot lawyers, pimps, politicians, the asshats who run NBC, rapist and child molesters, Then I would be first in line to stop the use of animals. See, those damn Nazis are still fucking shit up today. Now I'm Casper.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:29:57 PM CDT

    Just put in Pathfinder...lets see what happens..

    by jonah echo

    watching it here on the computer while I work(my home office)...here it goes.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 7:56:04 PM CDT

    Pathfinder...

    by thead

    Haven't heard too much good about it except from Danny... I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it yet though.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:03:43 PM CDT

    so far..it isnt..

    by jonah echo

    any good.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:10:31 PM CDT

    I drive a Pathfinder

    by chittychittygangbang

    Does that count?
    Funny story, a friend and I were driving in a back field drinking cheap beer. We were looking for a gap to get to the next field.
    He said go left and I said I didn't see a road.
    That's when he said "Goddammit this is a Pathfinder not a path taker!"
    Good times.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:12:34 PM CDT

    cinematography is fine, though washed out

    by jonah echo

    and the village of the native americans looks very storybook like. And the vikings are giant, ogre-esque seeming things. If the movie were silent, Id be enjoying it a bit, but the script is awful. It's a shame this looks like it's gonna crash and burn.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:12:47 PM CDT

    cinematography is fine, though washed out

    by jonah echo

    and the village of the native americans looks very storybook like. And the vikings are giant, ogre-esque seeming things. If the movie were silent, Id be enjoying it a bit, but the script is awful. It's a shame this looks like it's gonna crash and burn.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:13:57 PM CDT

    Holy shit! Chevy Chase is on Law and Order

    by chittychittygangbang

    He is doing the Mel Gibson version of 'Ripped from the headlines!'
    I keep waiting for him do his rant from Christmas Vacation when describing Jack McCoy.
    Sad to know he has fallen to this.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:16:05 PM CDT

    See what I mean about adding a creature Jonah

    by chittychittygangbang

    Stick a dragon in Pathfinder and you have a watchable movie I bet.
    Of course you will also have Outlander.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 8:17:43 PM CDT

    damn you JONAH!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Give Karl Urban some love!!

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:21:36 PM CDT

    Sorry Danny..

    by jonah echo

    I just didn't like it. But that odd, storybook look worked for it. It came making me think, at any moment this could be great. I think Urban was actually the problem. He doesnt have charisma of Ahnuld. And Clancy Brown was wasted(both his talent, and I think he might have been actaully wasted, like on alcohol).

    Danny, I tried. I did. But hey I hated Pathfinder and you hated Ratatouille. Who can fathom these things...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:23:53 PM CDT

    actually hate is too strong a word..

    by jonah echo

    I just didnt like it...did nothing for me..but I didnt hate it

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:29:14 PM CDT

    "Give Karl Urban some love!!"

    by the milf lover

    ...........*shudder*

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:30:55 PM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    that is an old ep. I saw the advertisement for that only a few months after Mel did his thing. Chase was even using the term "sugartits" and "YOU ARE A JEW!" I laughed, despite myself.
    The inescapable fact is that even after that debacle Gibson has a better career in Hollywood than Chase will ever have again.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:34:34 PM CDT

    you know,I think we will well

    by jonah echo

    surpass the 2012 talkback at this rate..

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:35:37 PM CDT

    No kidding, Chase would need a miracle

    by chittychittygangbang

    Maybe a sequel to Christmas Vacation?
    Surely he is set money-wise as I'm sure he is walking the thin line between taking anything offered and feeling like he is longer relevant.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:37:44 PM CDT

    Saw another trailer for Mummy 3

    by chittychittygangbang

    It shows one of the mummy army crawling along towards Fraser very fast.
    For some reason I find it very disturbing. It scares me.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:39:42 PM CDT

    Vegas Vacation was a waste...

    by jonah echo

    of Randy Quaid. Sadly, Quaid is another one who seems to have fallen hard.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:41:56 PM CDT

    Vegas Vacation was the worst

    by chittychittygangbang

    I really can't remember a funny scene in it.
    Maybe Cousin Eddie walking around with the beer attached to his waist.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:43:11 PM CDT

    I'm actually quite looking forward to Mummy 3

    by jonah echo

    I think it will be a good time at the theater. I quite enjoyed the original, and had a mild bit of fun at that mess of a second movie. This third one has a new director and Randy Edelman doing the score so I have hope.

    At this point, it would be hard to improve on the summer. I have a handful of things left to catch. August will be the month of comedy, but honestly none of them look to appeal much to me. Pineapple, Tropic Thunder, all look meh. Hamlet 2 looks amusing, but rental amusing, not go to the theater amusing. Same for The Rocker.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:44:59 PM CDT

    I'm still laughing at Danny's Arnie quote

    by chittychittygangbang

    Arnold to Satan in End of Days:
    "You want to fuck with me?! You are a fucking choir boy compared to me! A CHOIR BOY!!!"
    My wife is looking at me weird as I laugh and laugh and laugh...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:45:03 PM CDT

    hey stop the Chevy hate

    by the milf lover

    ..just kidding, carry on, he sucks major ass, the only thing I've ever liked him in is Three Amigos.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 9:50:24 PM CDT

    I have enjoyed the Mummy series so far

    by chittychittygangbang

    I even admit to buying the second at a Blockbuster sale for five or six bucks.
    Still enjoyed the first better.
    That pilot was cool.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:07:12 PM CDT

    the old british pilot. yes!

    by jonah echo

    he was a great little side character. Movies like that need the colorful side characters. 2 didn't really have any. Just pygmy mummies.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:14:14 PM CDT

    It did have Eko from Lost

    by chittychittygangbang

    Also had the worst CGI I've seen from a big studio release with Scorpion King.
    Should have had a spin off with the guys that protected the city of the Dead.
    That would have rocked.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:16:27 PM CDT

    Oh well off to bed

    by chittychittygangbang

    Will be back tomorrow while nose is on the grindstone.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:17:33 PM CDT

    eko was there,,

    by jonah echo

    but he wasnt very interesting. best new character was the little kid.
    "Cripes, Watch the suit!"

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:33:19 PM CDT

    "Eko from Lost"

    by the milf lover

    to me he will forever be the demented Simon Adebisi from Oz! What a wonderful ass-raping lunatic that guy was! He was also in Bourne Identity as the dictator Bourne was supposed to kill before losing his memory, and he's gonna be in that G.I.Joe movie as Heavy Duty, hopefully he gets to assrape Destro or some other Cobra terrorists...

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  • Jul 29, 2008 10:46:42 PM CDT

    Seems like a good popcorn flick to me

    by ganymede3010

    This type of shit sells. Especially during a dry movie period.

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  • Jul 29, 2008 11:34:52 PM CDT

    chitty

    by wyvern

    don't forget chevy did family guy after that law and order episode

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:08:19 AM CDT

    Pathfinder

    by series7

    Was terrible, and it easily could've been a fun stupid movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:32:47 AM CDT

    Anyway

    by series7

    My internet was down all night and i missed the fun. But I watched the Harold and Kumar 2: Die Harder. And it was pretty damn funny actually. A lot funnier then the first one.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:35:47 AM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by series7

    Tropic Thunder doesn't look good to you? But Hamlet 2 and Dwights abuse of his 15 minutes of fame look decent to you? Even Pineapple looks like its going to be funny, Apatow seems to be doing his best work when he's not directing.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:56:54 AM CDT

    Top

    by therewolf

    Number 1 with a bullet. I'm proud of you lot. Proud.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 6:25:34 AM CDT

    hysterical...#1

    by just pillow talk

    The CoC approves this message.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 6:26:51 AM CDT

    Mummy 3, Tropic Thunder, Pineapple Express

    by just pillow talk

    I think all three will deliver on varying levels.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:29:06 AM CDT

    good morning all.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 7:29:06 AM CDT

    good morning all.

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 7:32:27 AM CDT

    Morning everyone

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So I think I've calmed down from yesterday. I hope not to get sucked back into the W TB but that all depends on what those nutbags respond with.My daughter slept next to me and was kicking me all night so I'm tired as hell this morning.Mummy 3 will most likely be better than the second movie and sadly, better than Indy 4. Tropic Thunder looks to be a return to good R-rated comedy. Remember the 80s when T&A comedies ruled?Sadly, Jon Voight has lost his mind.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:52:11 AM CDT

    Mummy 3

    by jonah echo

    Over in the Jet talkback...I asked Mori what he thought of Mummy 3. His initial response is "pretty dissapointing."

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:53:56 AM CDT

    HOD..don't even go over there...

    by jonah echo

    I took a glance at that thing and it's a breeding ground for contention, stupidity and complete, rampant insanity.

    I can gurantee if you start talking to those people, they will tick you off.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:08:09 AM CDT

    That TB seems to have died down anyway

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So it should be on life support by this afternoon.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:13:00 AM CDT

    I;m actually impressed we are holding so well

    by jonah echo

    at 1. To think we were way off the list on Monday. Expected competition TB: Robocop.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:14:52 AM CDT

    Mummy 3

    by chittychittygangbang

    I wonder if he meant disappointing as far as a stand alone movie or comapred to the first two.
    I know the first is still the best of the two so far, but if it entertains like the second it will be fine to me.
    Besides, It has a dragon (Three-headed!!) and Snowmen, so it has to be at least campy fun.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:18:45 AM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    My memory of Mori's Mummy veiws is that he was a champion of the first film, liked large parts of the second originally but in his edit visit he calls the second wretched, which I understand since I had largely the same experience. Enjoyed it initially, but found it pretty much useless a day later and could barely watch it the second time. His exact words are over in the Li thread, which is a good interview. Go there and read it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:19:28 AM CDT

    yeah...I will be surprised if it doesn't end up being

    by just pillow talk

    like the previous two. Fucking Yetis...3 headed dragon...mummies doing martial arts...Michelle...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:22:43 AM CDT

    oh...and watched a decent little movie last night

    by just pillow talk

    Next Stop Wonderland. I quite enjoyed it and found a few parts pretty amusing.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:24:47 AM CDT

    next up: Michael Clayton and No Country fo Old Men

    by just pillow talk

    I hope they arrive today.If they do, I'm not sure which one I want to check out first. I know the wife will not want to watch No Country...so perhaps Clayton tonight.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:26:11 AM CDT

    JPT

    by jonah echo

    That is a good movie, and consider the director's other output: Session Nine. Happy Accidents. The Machinist.

    I love Brad Anderson.

    His new film Transsiberian is rolling out now, and people have been saying it's Hitchcock-esque.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:28:07 AM CDT

    How about a topic of -Werewolf Movies!

    by toadkillerdog

    I vote American Werewolf in London as best Werewolf movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:28:45 AM CDT

    A proposition...

    by jonah echo

    could we actually manage two talkbacks? There is a new one, for a remake of Don't be Afraid of the Dark, produced by Del Toro. That is the ultimate B-movie thread. We need to get over there and push for a dvd release of the original tv movie, about a house overrun by little goblins. Let's get to it, but let's keep this going as well. Need to have this still running so we can discuss Drew's Fear Itself ep tomorrow.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:29:26 AM CDT

    yeah...heard good things about Transsiberian

    by just pillow talk

    Toad: The Howling (I must mention this a second time)

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:29:42 AM CDT

    Toadkiller..I'll bite..(hah!)

    by jonah echo

    Teen Wolf...dear Lord, Teen Wolf.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:32:28 AM CDT

    Hola HOD, Pillow, Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    HOD, the W TB is just about dead. It really never took off like the really good political TB's though. I do admit, I like a political TB dustup - I am like Jimmy Swaggert in that respect - I was weak! Jonah, this TB is humming along, I really think this one embodies the spirit of AICN better than anything, just geeks enjoying talking about favorite movies with no name calling, but plenty of laughter. Pillow, I had to call down pencil jihad on two co-workers who just pushed the wrong button, on the wrong day! They are stil removing leaden HB 2 shrapnel from, their hides.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:33:03 AM CDT

    Best quote of Teen Wolf

    by chittychittygangbang

    "Give me a keg of beer!" as eyes turn red.
    Clerk complies...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:33:33 AM CDT

    Pillow

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Go with Michael Clayton. I think I stand alone in my view that it was one of the best films from 2007. Easily in the top 3 for me. I think the screenplay is brilliant as well.No Country had it's moments but it lost me in the third act.I'm guessing the Mummy will entertain me. And if I have to crack open the wine to enjoy it a little more, then so be it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:34:28 AM CDT

    Good choices.

    by toadkillerdog

    I have seen a boatload of werewolf movies, but only a few really stand out.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:35:46 AM CDT

    Monster Dog with Alice Cooper...

    by jonah echo

    as a rockstar who goes to an Irish castle with a wolf there. Crappy but fun.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:36:28 AM CDT

    yeah..a couple people at work were raving

    by just pillow talk

    about Clayton. I think I'm leaning towards Mikey for tonight.toad..the pencil jihad is the very fabric of a CoC'er..it's like the air we breathe. Completely and utterly necessary.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:39:06 AM CDT

    Howling 1-7

    by jonah echo

    Howling: a good little werewolf movie.

    Howling 2: Terminally nuts. Chris Lee. the same strip scene, replayed like twenty times, wolf orgy.

    Howling 3: The Marsupials. Yes Marsupial werewolves. A bad movie, but also fun in an insane way.

    Howling 4: yawn. a guy does dsintegrate and reconstitute as a wolf.

    Howling 5: basically, Clue with werewolves, but not funny and not terribly exciting either.

    Howling 6: The Freaks: not good. Finally werewolf vs. vampire.

    Howling:New Moon Rising: candidate for worst movie ever. Basically a country line dancing video come to life.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:40:43 AM CDT

    My Mom's a werewolf - with the great John Schuck

    by toadkillerdog

    Not my actual mother, the movie I mean. Geez. Ok, it is a terrible flick.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:41:20 AM CDT

    Company of Wolves

    by jonah echo

    A very creepy, creative film directed by Neil Jordan. I liked this one alot. David Warner, Stephen Rhea, Angela Lansbury as Granny, Terrence Stamp as Satan. And very striking production design.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:43:05 AM CDT

    The Beast Must Die

    by jonah echo

    Saw this once as a little guy, but quite liked it, despite it not being your conventional wolf pic.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:43:13 AM CDT

    Seven Howling movies?

    by toadkillerdog

    Holy Crap! I had no idea. Pillow, yes, it was necessary to unleash that side of my CoC personality that had been pent up for too long! Death to shitheels!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:45:20 AM CDT

    Silver Bullet

    by chittychittygangbang

    Saw this one in the theater and everyone got into the movie.
    Screaming at scaring parts, laughing at guy getting beat with the peacemaker, etc.
    Good little monster flick and good time at theater.
    And it has Gary Busey.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:45:59 AM CDT

    Ginger Snaps

    by toadkillerdog

    An offbeat type of werewolf movie, but dark and kind of cool

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:46:13 AM CDT

    Mom

    by jonah echo

    A werewolf film from 1990 with a guy's mom turning into a werewolf like beast. Had Jim Henson creature effects if memory serves, and Jeanne Bates as the mother monster. I think it was decent.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:46:36 AM CDT

    Teen Wolf

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I saw that in the theater 3 times. The indifferent gum chewing coach cracked me up. I'm sure it hasn't aged well but I loved it 20 odd years ago.I was pleasantly surprised by An American Werewolf in Paris. The blue screen work of them jumping off the Eiffel Tower was the best I'd ever seen up to that point.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:47:06 AM CDT

    Werewolf in London

    by jonah echo

    the old movie, not American obviously. It was pretty cool though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:48:02 AM CDT

    I must go off on tangent - any movie with Mimi Rogers

    by toadkillerdog

    She was in Ginger Snaps, but the Door in the Floor - well, full frontal - for an extended period of time! Damn! That is one finely built woman!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:48:24 AM CDT

    Full Moon High

    by jonah echo

    With Adam Arkin, directed by Larry Cohen. It was a comedy. Not a very good one, but it did precede Teen Wolf.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:49:34 AM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    Silver Bullet is in my top five favorite werewolf movies

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:50:06 AM CDT

    Full Eclipse

    by jonah echo

    with Mario Van Peebles leading a team of werewolf vigilantes who had bone claws jutt out of their knuckles ala Wolverine.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:50:40 AM CDT

    Werewolf in a Girl's Dormitory

    by jonah echo

    yea, sadly, I saw it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:51:14 AM CDT

    Wolf

    by jonah echo

    with Jack Nicholson. A good movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:51:48 AM CDT

    I was a teenage werewolf

    by jonah echo

    with Michael Landon as the wolf.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:52:13 AM CDT

    Dog Soldiers

    by jonah echo

    Love this one.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:52:30 AM CDT

    Guilty Pleasure - Underworld

    by toadkillerdog

    I know, but Selene and a werewolf!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:53:01 AM CDT

    The Beast Within

    by jonah echo

    wasnt that basically a werewolf?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:53:56 AM CDT

    Wolfen

    by jonah echo

    not quite werewolves, but check it out. It's great.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:55:17 AM CDT

    The Wolf Man of course..and all

    by jonah echo

    his iterations. Vs. Frankenstein. Monster Squad. so on and so forth.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:55:17 AM CDT

    The Wolf Man of course..and all

    by jonah echo

    his iterations. Vs. Frankenstein. Monster Squad. so on and so forth.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:56:04 AM CDT

    Werewolf: The TV series.

    by jonah echo

    anyone remember this?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:56:23 AM CDT

    Ever notice how there is two types of werewolf

    by chittychittygangbang

    You the original with basically a very hairy guy with longer teeth and extended finger nails as claws.
    Then you have the wolf and man hybrid that seems to get stronger and bigger with each movie.
    I can't decide which I like better, as I like versions of both.
    Best design you guys have seen?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:56:51 AM CDT

    Skinwalkers

    by jonah echo

    never saw it though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:58:07 AM CDT

    best design...the Barlowe wolf from

    by jonah echo

    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Lupine's wolf form was terrific. A tall, stringy werewolf that looked feral and odd. Loved that design. Loved that movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:00:14 AM CDT

    Speaking of Hairy Potter

    by toadkillerdog

    The trailer looks awesome

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:06:30 AM CDT

    Ahhh yes, Lupine form

    by chittychittygangbang

    Forgot that they actually did their own design.
    Not really big and musculat like Underworld, but not human-like as in Wolf with Jack Nicholson.
    Good call Echo, good call.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:08:50 AM CDT

    Good design was the giant muppet dog

    by jonah echo

    in American Werewolf in London. Add in that fantastic transformation and you have a classic werewolf.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:12:10 AM CDT

    X-Files werewolves..

    by jonah echo

    there were two. One was Skins, which involved native americans and werewolves and was a season one ep that was pretty good.

    Later in season 6, there was a werewolf-esque ep called Alpha which reminded me more of Cat People, but involved dogs, or wolves. Don't quite recall.

    Angel had a great werewolf ep, where a group wanted to get together and eat it at a formal dinner.

    Kolchak fought a werewolf on a cruiseship in the 70s series.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:14:19 AM CDT

    Morning people....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 9:16:43 AM CDT

    That werewolf in London

    by chittychittygangbang

    Maybe it was the crazy eyes, but that thing was scary to look at.
    Crazy eyes and big white teeth.
    I like that they just showed glimpses and partial shots of it.
    Yes the transformation scene was well done.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:18:05 AM CDT

    nic cage and keanu are gay werewolves in..

    by ironic_name

    PILLOW BITERS!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:18:38 AM CDT

    What werewolf movie...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Did the transformation scenes have a wolf snout come out of the mouth of the human?
    Was that the Howling?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:20:11 AM CDT

    I prefer the man-wolf type of thing that walks upright...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    And I thought The Monster Squad wolf was awesome! That transformation in the phone booth when white shit gushes out of his mouth...crazy for a kid's movie!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:22:17 AM CDT

    has there ever been a film linked with native americans.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...where some sort of cryptozoologist investigator guy finds that Sasquatch sightings are actually werewolf sightings?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:24:38 AM CDT

    American Werewolf in London great because of gore and humor but

    by toadkillerdog

    Because it showed for the first time the true pain one must feel undergoing such a transformation. I mean, after that type of full body transformation - without any drugs, I can see why someone would be so pissed off and driven insane by the pain, and ready to kill!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:25:35 AM CDT

    four thousand more posts to match OLEG!

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 30, 2008 9:27:53 AM CDT

    American Werewolf in London

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    I think the first 2/3 of the film are divine. I agree the combo of humor and suspense is amazingly well balanced. I just felt the end came a little too quick. Not time wise, cause I think the movie is pretty long already-- I'm saying story wise. It just felt a little small by the end. And I remember thinking that when I was a kid....it just ends so abruptly. It felt like there should be one more action piece.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:47:22 AM CDT

    damn.....grandma (this TB) is on life-support.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 9:50:02 AM CDT

    whats OLEG?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 9:51:54 AM CDT

    yea, Danny..more like cruise control..

    by jonah echo

    and that's ok, but we do need to liven it up a bit. I think we can get this thing to high numbers, but the slow and steady trick has worked so far. Mostly because we don't abandon it, and have a base of people that keep posting.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:53:56 AM CDT

    DREW..ANY FEEDBACK AT ALL???

    by jonah echo

    regarding this letter. Know anything more about Outlander you can share with us?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 9:59:16 AM CDT

    When was the last non CGI werewolf

    by chittychittygangbang

    Was it Wolf with Jack and Spader?
    I'm trying to think and that is the only one I remember.
    I always like the scenes where they first start getting used to their heightened senses.
    Like when Jack asked that guy about drinking scotch early in the morning and when that horse started bucking around him.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:00:46 AM CDT

    Jonah - a legendary length thread on DTV

    by just pillow talk

    in which ironic, bloop, travis-dane and others I'm forgetting to mention participated in. They have since moved the discussion onto the zone.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:03:18 AM CDT

    Damnit Echo beat me to it

    by series7

    Full Eclipse, while not having seen it in like 10 years, I remember it being awesome.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:05:52 AM CDT

    I don't think anyone has said it

    by series7

    Best Warewolf movie...Thriller. Probably the best song ever. Though not my favorite MJ song (that would be Bad), still amazing.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:10:26 AM CDT

    Thriller and the practical werewolf......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    Series, I too greatly enjoy Thriller, but I would consider it a Zombie film, not a wolf film. And I didnt really like his werewolf so much....it looks too cat like.
    Chitty.....those things in the Underworld films are not CG, maybe in transformation but they are actual people in suits.
    And good morning Monsieur Pillow.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:11:09 AM CDT

    and best MJ song ever....its totally SCREAM

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 10:14:57 AM CDT

    excellent points, but it will never take.

    by orange cinema

    i agree that films like this need support, but it will never happen, as the masses won't take to this film. btw, pretty stupid to include 'his financial problems' in this open letter. did you really think that was a good thing to include? you come off pompous for doing so, and if Harv ever did read this, you'd loose him right there.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:17:28 AM CDT

    Sexiest female character in a movie?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'll start the ball rolling.Xenia Onatopp in Goldeneye. Even if she can crush you with her legs.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:19:10 AM CDT

    Sexiest female character.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Charlotte in Lost In Translation

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:24:39 AM CDT

    News on the Olympics (more reason to boycott)

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Journalists covering the Olympics in Beijing will not have full access to the internet while they are there, even though China claimed they would when they originally bid for the games. More than 20,000 foreign media personnel are due in the Chinese capital to cover the Olympic Games, which begin on 8 August.
    Many are already moving into the press and broadcast centres in Beijing.

    On Tuesday, they were unable to access the website of Amnesty International as it released a report criticising China's human rights record.

    Some international news pages and sites that dealt with issues such as Tibet were also inaccessible, journalists said.

    Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao confirmed that websites relating to the Falun Gong spiritual movement were blocked.

    "As to sites related to Falun Gong, I think you know that Falun Gong is a cult that has been banned according to law, and we will adhere to our position," he told a news conference on Tuesday.

    He suggested that part of the problem with other sites could lie with the sites themselves.

    "There are some problems with a lot of websites themselves that makes it not easy to view them in China," he said. "Our attitude is to ensure that foreign journalists have regular access to information in China during the Olympic Games."


    Sun Weide says China will provide 'sufficient' access for journalists

    But on Wednesday, a spokesman for the Olympic organizing committee told the French news agency AFP that other - unspecified - sites were blocked.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:29:52 AM CDT

    That garbage just ruffles my feathers, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I can't believe the world sits back and excuses the Chinese government for their abysmal human rights record because of cheap Chinese labor and over a billion consumers to export to. I never understood how a profit could trump human life.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:38:21 AM CDT

    HOD Human life gives them profit

    by chittychittygangbang

    Think of the sheer number of potetial workers they can pull in and exploit.
    A while back there was strike at a furniture factory, which builds items for export.
    They just let everyone of the strikers go and had an ENTIRE new work force set up and running with only two weeks down time.
    They know for every angry worker that is willing to take a stand, there are 100 ready to do anything for a few scraps to feed his family. Sad.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:41:08 AM CDT

    rolling thunder

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Are you Branebot?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:44:53 AM CDT

    fuel costs and shit

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I saw a report on Dateline last week that was good news.....American manufactured goods such as furniture are rising rapidly because of fuel costs to import from Asia. Its shit like this that makes me think high gas prices are a good thing. If gas rose to 10.00 a gallon, it would be hell for a few years sure.....but then public transportation, alternative fuels, and goods manufactured at home in America would begin to flourish once the citizens start rioting. Once gas prices go down a tiny bit back to $3.50....the whole country says oh great....fuck hybrids and all that shit-- I'm getting back in my Escalade!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:48:21 AM CDT

    I don't want to get to political here

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But since Danny is talking Olympics, this is what McCain had to say on Larry King last night:"I think we did the right thing. I think that it was a colossal intelligence failure on the part of the United States and every other county as to whether he had them or not. But again, I would remind you, I said we would have an easy victory. We did."To quote Solo, "Easy? You call that easy?"What a slap in the face to our service men and women.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:50:50 AM CDT

    Easy victory?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Its not over!! How is it a victory?! Once America pulls out, Iraq and Afghan will most likely crumble into a worse state then there originally were. What the fuck?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:51:24 AM CDT

    We need the have-nots to storm the castle

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Let's see what happens when the folks earning minimum wage at Wal-Mart get tired and angry and storm the mansions of the Walton family.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:53:39 AM CDT

    Sexist female character..Hmmm

    by chittychittygangbang

    Diane Lane in Unfaithful is up there.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:54:40 AM CDT

    Ok...new subject-- JERRY LEWIS CITED FOR A CONCEALED GUN!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    In his carry on luggage!! hahahaha. Now thats original gangsta.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 10:57:31 AM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Sheeesh.....Unfaithful? I couldn't find anything about that movie sexy. Sure-- it is Diane Lane getting nailed on a stairwell but fuck....that movie disturbed me. It was such a downer the whole thing made me feel like shit and pray to Christ my woman doesn't run into that Oliver whatever Latin dude in the streets. Thats exactly how it goes down with every woman he shakes hands with.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:02:14 AM CDT

    Well Danny agree about rest of movie

    by chittychittygangbang

    But...I have always had this thing for Diane Lane. Just can't describe it.
    When I found out she was in this and nude, well story be damned I have to rank it just because of her being naked.
    Yes, I am a pig sue me.
    But you are right about the depressing part, as that movie would will have you reaching for some happy pills very quickly.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:03:32 AM CDT

    Unfaithful

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Man Gere is awesome in that scene when he bashes the dude's face in. Crazy emotional rage there....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:04:57 AM CDT

    Diane Lane indeed

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I always wanted to see a three-way with her, Sela Ward and Jennifer Connelly.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:05:03 AM CDT

    Yeah sad fact

    by series7

    That individually I think 4 or 5 (one of them died recently) Waltons each have their own spot on the top 25 richest people in the world. While they have been moving down the list, still individually they each have their own spot. Not as a family seperatly, its fucking outlandish. How can people be so greedy? Also, non of that money is due to their hard work and persistence, Sam did all the hard work for them. At least Bill Gates started what makes him. I like to have this conversation with people about how will the 4-5 generation Gates Kids will turn out. Like 2 and 3 will have some spot light on them to do good things and work hard. But by 4 and 5 generation, these kids are going to realize by like age 11, that they never have to do anything in their lives and will lead a better life then probably 99% of the rest of the world. Imagine being born into that?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:05:58 AM CDT

    Like it when Gere hits him

    by chittychittygangbang

    And a split second later the way his rage gives away to what the hell have I done?
    Whoever cast their kid sure didn't give a crap, as he looked nothing like either one of them.
    You would think they would take that into account.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:07:27 AM CDT

    You know what was a good Gere movie

    by series7

    Red Corner, I liked that one. Don't really remember what it was about, but it looks really boring but it was good and fasted paced. I remember there was a cool chase scene where Richard was riding a bicycle to get to the embassy before he could get arrasted.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:08:30 AM CDT

    More China news for HOD......from BBC

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Chinese man held for quake photos
    A Chinese teacher has been detained for posting images on the internet of schools that collapsed in the Sichuan earthquake, a rights group has said.

    Human Rights in China said Liu Shaokun had been ordered to serve a year of "re-education through labour".

    Mr Liu was detained for "disseminating rumours and destroying social order", the group said.

    The 12 May quake killed nearly 70,000 people. Many of those who died were children whose schools collapsed.

    The poor condition of the school buildings has become a sensitive political issue for the government, and grieving parents have staged numerous protests demanding an inquiry.

    Many have accused local officials of colluding with builders to allow them to get away with cheap and unsafe practices.

    "Instead of investigating and pursuing accountability for shoddy and dangerous school buildings, the authorities are resorting to re-education through labour to silence and lock up concerned citizens like teacher Liu Shaokun and others," said Human Rights in China Executive Director Sharon Hom.

    According to Human Rights in China, Mr Liu's wife was informed by police last week that the teacher, from Guanghan Middle School in Deyang city, had been sent to a labour camp.

    The "re-education through labour" system allows police to incarcerate a crime suspect for up to four years without the need for a criminal trial or a formal charge.

    The system, in place since 1957, has been widely criticised by the UN and other organisations.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:09:20 AM CDT

    HOD I have met Sela Ward

    by chittychittygangbang

    I was working for a newspaper in Meridian, MS and that is her hometown.
    Lifestyle section was doing an interview and I happened to be there (I was doing sports).
    Seemed very nice.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:10:03 AM CDT

    Gere is underrated....he is a damn good actor

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 11:14:23 AM CDT

    Gere can even make chick flicks good

    by chittychittygangbang

    I liked an Officer and A Gentleman.
    Hated that bitch that dumped the poor guy when she found out he wasn't going to be a pilot?
    She even faked a pregnancy
    What a STUPID CUNT!
    Hated her character, even though it accuratly represents how some girls really are.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:16:11 AM CDT

    Chitty

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    might I ask how old you are? I can't place you...32ish?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:16:57 AM CDT

    Mothman Prophecy......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Loved that film. Gere rocks in that role.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:20:35 AM CDT

    Only female star I ever met was ---Whoopi

    by toadkillerdog

    Sad isnt it?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:22:05 AM CDT

    Just turned 35 ten days ago

    by chittychittygangbang

    Don't feel a day over 25 though.
    Exercise, good diet and people I can actually talk movies and shit with helps.
    I really have no one around here that gets into all of this stuff.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:24:43 AM CDT

    New topic...tv movies..

    by jonah echo

    I see today they announced Del Toro producing a remake of "Don't be Afraid of the Dark." Now there is amovie that could use remaking. I think it might be on youtube, but the plot involves little demons terrorizing Kim Darby in an old house. They come out from under the furnace and want to take her with them when they go back to their underworld. Creepy little thing, particularly back in the 70s and early 80s. Now it's dated, but still cool. A remake could be magnificent, particularly if handled by the right people, which it sounds like it is.

    So, how bout it? Other good tv movies or miniseries? Or just ones you remember? Not just horror, but I usually start there...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:25:04 AM CDT

    Liked Whoopi in Ghost

    by chittychittygangbang

    When Willie Lopez told her if she was so good why don't she tell him his name.
    She said Willie and his faced was like Holy Shit!
    Take out the cheesy pottery scene and it isn't a bad movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:26:49 AM CDT

    The Woodchipper Vs. The Chinese government

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is a movie that needs to be made."Tianammen Square is getting a new paint job.....WITH BLOOD!"Mothman is one of my favorite horror-ish movies. That sucker creeped the bejezus out of me.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:31:15 AM CDT

    Chitty

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You're still younger than me!The best miniseries ever is Band of Brothers. Hands down. A very close second is Rome. I think I could watch Rome once a month.Just started watching John Adams.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:32:03 AM CDT

    Remake of The Stand

    by chittychittygangbang

    I know it was recent, but I would like to see it on HBO or Showtime where they could at least use the language from the book and maybe some nudity.
    Also show the The Kid this time.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:32:55 AM CDT

    Salems Lot was a good tv movie.

    by jonah echo

    That creepy kid at the window is still haunting. The remake wasn't terrible either, with Donald Sutherland as the vampire.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:36:24 AM CDT

    I really like The Stand tv movie..but

    by jonah echo

    I could have done without Molly Ringwald. Ruby Dee and Jamey Sheridan and Gary Sinise were awesome though. Bill Faggerbake was great too. And Matt Frewer as Trashcan Man

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:37:12 AM CDT

    damn....a topic I cant really contribute to...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I don't watch much tv or tv movies or miniseries or any of that. I didn enjoy Band of Brothers, that was very good. From The Earth to The Moon fucking put me to sleep (sorry HOD) but I think that was more Ron Howard's involvement then the subject matter.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:37:17 AM CDT

    Gargoyles

    by jonah echo

    with Cornel Wilde..remember this?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:38:41 AM CDT

    anyone see the silly tv movie Bates Motel?

    by jonah echo

    back in the late 80s?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:40:13 AM CDT

    It had Bud Cort in it..

    by jonah echo

    and if I recall, Lori Petty and Jason Bateman in very early roles, and Moses Gunn(not an early role obviously). And Robert Picardo was in there too.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:40:44 AM CDT

    Yep saw some of Bates Motel

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remember being sort of let down with it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:41:32 AM CDT

    odd thing about Bates Motel..

    by jonah echo

    was they used to play it on the 4th of July like clockwork. Odd.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:42:19 AM CDT

    She's kinda younger but

    by frongbak

    I think Eliza Dushku is smokin'hot. I'm really hopin the new TV show Dollhouse is decent. Some old Buffy episodes are OK although I gave up by the time all those spin-offs were goin on.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:42:59 AM CDT

    YES! Gargoyles - scared the crap out of lil Toadkiller

    by toadkillerdog

    That and Trilogy of Terror.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:43:05 AM CDT

    o.k. new topic...

    by jonah echo

    scariest movies you have seen? stuff that actually disturbed you, or freaked you out, or made you jump in a particularly embarrasing way?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:44:42 AM CDT

    Bates Motel?

    by frongbak

    Never heard of it, was it related to Psycho? That is probably a stupid question.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:45:02 AM CDT

    I reread the Stand right before series came out

    by chittychittygangbang

    They crammed a good bit in there. I was sort of impressed, but didn't like Ringwald or the fact that they could use the language from the book.
    It is so sweeping and broad it could last a whole season on tv, much less cramming into a miniseries, so they did pretty well with it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:45:43 AM CDT

    for me it was Pet Semetary as a child..

    by jonah echo

    but strangely, it was the deformed girl with spinal meningitis in the back room...I saw that when I was in the 4th grade and started to fear terribly getting spinal meningitis for fear Id turn into a freak. Later that summer, we visited family in North Carolina and one of the cousins there came down with Meningitis(a relatively harmless strain) and my mind instantly went to Pet Semetary. When we got sick, I sat in my room and cried. I was such a pansy little kid.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:47:13 AM CDT

    also disturbing was Audition..

    by jonah echo

    I saw this at an anime convention, and finally, just walked out. Somewhere around the part where she threw up in the bowl and made the guy without a tongue and eyes drink it up.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:49:03 AM CDT

    The Vanishing..the foreign version

    by jonah echo

    was also a pretty disturbing movie, I thought. I had never seen the 90s remake(which sucked) but this one definitely got under my skin. That fear of just losing someone forever and then not knowing, but being confronted with the possibility that knowing might somehow be worse than not.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:49:27 AM CDT

    Rosemary's Baby

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Scared the blood out of my dick. It still does. Doesn't have jumping scare moments....but it is insanely creepy throughout.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:49:30 AM CDT

    King on TV

    by frongbak

    I don't think King translates well too Network TV. The Stand was decent, but Kingdom Hospital and IT were lacking. I'd love to see his stuff on Showtime or HBO where they could dig into the gruesomeness of it. On a related note Best King Movie, my vote is The Shining

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:50:37 AM CDT

    It's Alive really, really disturbed me

    by chittychittygangbang

    Maybe it was the fact that it was small and could hide anywhere, but yeah that thing fucked my world up.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:51:19 AM CDT

    Scariest movies

    by toadkillerdog

    These all took place in the Toadkillers formative years. I later became immune to scary movies - which is not necessarily a good thing.
    1) Gargoyles. When those damn things where in the bedroom, it freaked me out for weeks, I checked under me bed every night. 2) Trilogy of Terror - just creepy. 3)Jaws - One scene. One only. When Roy is throwing chum off back of boat. No music at all, and Bruce just jumps out of the water - I was in the front row of an old style movie house that meant you were not jammed against the screen. That was when front rows meant best seat. I damn near jumped into back row! 4)
    Exorcist - Hit on my Catholic upbringing. 5) The Other - just creeped me out no end as a kid.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:51:40 AM CDT

    Pet Semetary

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....did disturb me alot when I was young. I used to cry my eyes out when the kid gets hit.........that movie was fucked up.

    Oh....and Child's Play. Fucking terrifying the first time.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:52:23 AM CDT

    Inside

    by frongbak

    Have you seen that movie yet. It's French and the most intense film experience I've had this year. The original Grudge (Ju-on) is great too.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:53:01 AM CDT

    Tales from the Darkside used to bother me as a kid..

    by jonah echo

    ever seen an ep called "The Cutty Blacksow"? It involved a family around Halloween who had their grandmother in their house, and she died. On her deathbed she told her grandson about an irish legend called the blacksow, a demon that would hunt the family unless the child made stones representing each member and putting them within a protective circle around the fire. The boy does this, but one stone rolls out, his.

    He spends the rest of the ep trying to evade the blacksow, whose red eyes keep showing up at the window.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:53:32 AM CDT

    movie that terrified me the most in the theater....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Was definitely Indy IV. I have never felt a more intense mixture of horror, anger, confusion, and anguish. What a truly horrifying experience I shall not soon forget!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:54:05 AM CDT

    Exorcist III made me jump

    by chittychittygangbang

    When they are in the hospital and it showed a long corrider shot and a nurse walks back and forth and ....WOW I jumped when walks very fast behind her with the shears right behind her neck.
    People screamed during that scene. Not hollered, screamed.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:54:23 AM CDT

    Also..go to Youtube and type in "CUTTY BLACKSOW"

    by jonah echo

    the ep is there!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:55:37 AM CDT

    Creep Show

    by frongbak

    I saw that young, when the guy twists his daughter's head off and puts it on his birthday cake, that'll scar you for a little while.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:57:27 AM CDT

    Inside was a vomitorium

    by jonah echo

    yeeeeeccchh!! I'm sorry. I know everyone praises it's effectiveness, but between the vileness of the onscreen ending, to the stupidity of the heroine, the movie just didnt offer anything but a way to purge my dinner.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:59:00 AM CDT

    Tales from the Darkside

    by chittychittygangbang

    The episode In the Closet.
    No it wasn't about the scariness of coming out to your friends and family, but rather a little monster that came out and attacked.
    That thing was very creepy looking.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:00:06 PM CDT

    Picking up on what Chitty wrote about screaming

    by toadkillerdog

    In my life, I have only been in one movie theater that had the men screaming louder than women. That was Conan the Barbarian - the scene when Arnold has the black paint on and starts to flex and swing the sword around. I swear, soem men in the theater squealed like three year old girls!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:02:16 PM CDT

    screaming for Arnold's guns.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...what the fuck? How odd. Hilarious....but odd. Was this screening in Miami Beach or what?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:03:07 PM CDT

    Amazing Stories

    by frongbak

    What about that Amazing Stories episode with Christopher Lloyd. He plays a teacher who gets inhuman hiccups that dicapitates him. That was a great show.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:04:44 PM CDT

    No, it was in Upstate New York

    by toadkillerdog

    I was visiting relatives. And It was just insane. Arnold flexing and swing the sword around, and facing off against Thulsa Dooms men. I guess it was too much for some!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:09:05 PM CDT

    Vomitorium

    by frongbak

    I'll admit it was over-the-top gore and I would never suggest it to many of my friends but at it's core was a very interesting battle for survival. And I don't think the heroine (or is she truly after threatening the fetus with the crocheting needle) was stupid. The cops on the other hand were a little more questionable. As far as staring into the abyss of human darkness goes, you can't do much better/worse.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:09:32 PM CDT

    I think eggsalad is back

    by toadkillerdog

    As rolling thunder. Too juvenile for Brane

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:13:34 PM CDT

    ROLLING THUNDER, HEAR MY CRY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Great children's book. I loved it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:16:08 PM CDT

    danny, what brings up Roll of Thunder, Hear my Cry?

    by jonah echo

    I recall the book too.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:18:10 PM CDT

    Frong..

    by jonah echo

    I agree with all you said..and you are right, my bad, it was the COPS, not the main character, who were stupid. No question about the intensity, but about halfway through I figured out where they were headed and it was hard to care, just prepare for that sequence essentially.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:18:15 PM CDT

    oh its Roll of Thunder.....not Rolling Thunder?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That Rolling Thunder guy reminded me of it. I dont remember what its about...just remember Indians and I really liked it in school.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:19:14 PM CDT

    Scariest movie for me as a kid

    by series7

    Aliens, my brother locked me in a room and made me watch it. Predetor is up there as well. Scariest movie recently, Ils and Joshua. I remember being really scared during the Omen when I was younger and for the most part Jousha is a different take on that story, by man that ending was effective as hell.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:20:50 PM CDT

    Inside the Closet

    by jonah echo

    was a great ep. It had a Tom Savini designed creature living in the closet in this little room. It was sleek and white, with big lemur-lke eyes and sharp teeth. It was one of the very best made for tv monsters I have ever seen. That one is also on Youtube.

    Danny and Chitty and anyone else, if you haven't seen this ep, get over to youtube and search for Tales from Darkside: Inside the Closet". It's broken up in segments and it's about 20 minutes or so long. Check it out!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:20:52 PM CDT

    Ok, a funny video with boobs, is on CNN

    by toadkillerdog

    Some astrloger chick with big ones hanging out a'la scriptgirl, was doing a stand up when earthquake hit. It is on CNN's website

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:21:17 PM CDT

    you know whats funny

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    since we've been taking this sticking to one TB business more serious, the topics are so wild and entertaining and span so much great nostalgia and random cool shit-- I find myself reading the actual news and updates of AICN less and less. I realized I didnt read one new article yesterday or the day before.......oh except for that Depp as The Mad Hatter one. Other than that, nothing caught my eye. What I read here from you guys is far more entertaining than what is being written on the site. Is that good or bad?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:23:07 PM CDT

    I wish I could see Dead Alive

    by series7

    In theaters, back when it first came out.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:23:09 PM CDT

    Danny..indians? I think you have wrong book.

    by jonah echo

    Roll of Thunder followed an African American family who owned their own land during the 1930s.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:23:19 PM CDT

    Over/Under on rolling thunder getting banned - again

    by toadkillerdog

    I put it under a week.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:24:23 PM CDT

    Nothing has ever given me chills

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Like the bathroom scene in Full Metal Jacket. The lighting, the music (oh that music) and that creepy look on Leonard's face, sends chills down my spine just thinking about it. For me, that's the creepiest scene ever.And The Shining comes close when Jack sinks the ax into Scatman's chest and then comes into the frame with the most terrifying facial expression in history.I guess nobody does it like Kubrick.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:25:11 PM CDT

    Ils was good, and rather creepy..

    by jonah echo

    didn't quite stick with me though.

    Is Joshua good? I still havent seen it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:25:48 PM CDT

    The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Anyone ever read this great short story? There have been numerous mentions of monsters and creatures in closets and small rooms, and this reminds me of the Omelas story. If you haven't read it I suggest you do-- its all over online. Here is a description:
    In the story, Omelas is a utopian city of happiness and delight, whose inhabitants are smart and cultured. Everything about Omelas is pleasing, except for the secret of the city: the good fortune of Omelas requires that an unfortunate child be kept in filth, darkness and misery, and that all her citizens know of this on coming of age.
    The description of the child in the closet is creepy and sad as hell....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:26:26 PM CDT

    Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer..

    by jonah echo

    DISturbING.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:28:24 PM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    and the ones who learn of the child, who know of it's existence down there, walk away from Omelas, never to return. A very brisk and effective story.

    Lets open this up to literature too. Most disturbing thing you read?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:28:42 PM CDT

    It's good, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Our TBs have become the best thing about this site. I learn new stuff everyday from you guys.Rolling Thunder will be gone by the weekend.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:29:44 PM CDT

    ROLLING THUNDER IS EGGSALAD!

    by i am the terminator

    Which means he's going to get PWNED!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:30:09 PM CDT

    Jonah....damn...I think I confused it with Sign of The Beaver...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    Thats what I was thinking of. The story of Thunder doesnt sound familiar but I was almost certain I read it when I was younger.....hhhmmmmm.....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:30:53 PM CDT

    "Where are you going, Where have you been?'

    by jonah echo

    by Joyce Carol Oates. Im not even sure why it's so disturbing but that bit at the end where Friend coaxes her out of the house was chilling.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:31:28 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    No I mean good or bad for AICN that our TB is more interesting than their updates. Heehehehehe.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:33:18 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Damn you!! You ruined the ending of Omelas for everyone!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:37:38 PM CDT

    I got really into dystopian stuff for awhile....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    anyone read the short story "Harrison Bergeron" by Vonnegut?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:51:39 PM CDT

    sorry Danny..

    by jonah echo

    At least it's only a page..I shouldnt have done that. Wasn't thinking.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:52:42 PM CDT

    Harrison Bergeron is another little classic

    by jonah echo

    it was even made into a movie with Sean Astin and John Astin. A showtime original movie I think. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't the story.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:53:47 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hehehe.....well its in the title anyway...so....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:57:33 PM CDT

    Octavia Butler is an awesome writer..

    by jonah echo

    particularly her short stories. One of them dealt with a young boy who was in line to be the birth parent of an alien female's children. Meaning he would actually carry and bear the children. They were a kind of larvae. The alien rulers lived among the humans, each in a human's house, but the humans did have some element of choice over whether or not they would bear the aliens, which was interesting.

    One of her more disturbing stories told of a genetic disorder that caused people to mutilate themselves or others to the point of horrible horrible death. The main character's parents had this disease, and so did the main character. She was on drugs to keep it at bay, but her father had gone off his and had done something terrible like buried his hand up to the arm in her mother's skull or something.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:58:25 PM CDT

    Harrison Bergeron

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Sean and John Astin? No fucking way....I cant imagine that story in a longer format. Some things should just be left alone. Its like trying to adapt a one page poem into a full length film.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 12:58:46 PM CDT

    I should say was...Octavia passed away in 2005 or 2006.

    by jonah echo

    I don't recall exactly when.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:02:02 PM CDT

    A Good Man is Hard to Find

    by jonah echo

    by Flannery O'Connor about a family in a van that meet a serial killer. Flannery was a christian so she would examine spirituality and God through these odd stories that on the surface didn't seem like they were. She is definitely a fave. Her short stories are really wonderful. You would not go wrong just picking up a Flannery O'Connor anthology.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:02:15 PM CDT

    Butler was great. Alfred Bester is my favorite.

    by toadkillerdog

    I love C.J. Cherryh, and David Brin as well. Cherryh's Cyteen is still one of the greatest Sci-fi books ever. Bester though, just blows me away.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:07:22 PM CDT

    Ok...new topic...

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 1:08:55 PM CDT

    what villains have you sympathized with..

    by jonah echo

    in a movie? Not just the villain was pathetic, or more interesting than the hero, but was there ever a villain where you sympathized with them and saw where they were coming from?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:12:48 PM CDT

    The Stars my Destination is one of the best

    by jonah echo

    science fiction novels ever. Bester was a genius, and he wrote for D.C. Comics as well.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:13:56 PM CDT

    I felt bad for Predator

    by chittychittygangbang

    He was just trophy hunting.
    The only difference was instead of hunting elk, he made the mistake of hunting Arnold.
    Big Mistake.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:16:02 PM CDT

    At least the Predator in part 1

    by jonah echo

    died with honor, hunting the greatest specimen of manliness the 80s ever knew. The second one got sacked by Danny Glover. I bet the other Predators took turns peeing on his corpse later.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:16:09 PM CDT

    Saddest story was Scarlet Ibis

    by chittychittygangbang

    Short story written by James Hurst.
    If read that and don't get a little misty then you have a heart of stone.
    I read that when I was little and it is still with me.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:17:24 PM CDT

    Long John Silver..

    by jonah echo

    he was always a scallywag, but I sympathized with him. He was only a few leauges different than the "heroes" and in his own way, given the situation, he had more compassion.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:18:40 PM CDT

    Chitty...

    by jonah echo

    that story was rough. And the fact that you can relate to the feelings in the older brother's heart make it hit home all the more. Those last few lines are beautiful in their sledgehammer brevity.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:18:54 PM CDT

    Felt bad for Alien Hybrid in Resurrection

    by chittychittygangbang

    It just wanted to be loved by Mama Ripley and how does she repay it?
    That look it gave was pretty said.
    Although it was creepy the way that guy was saying 'What a beautiful little butterfly.' Crunch!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:19:41 PM CDT

    American Psycho

    by frongbak

    Was a more disturbing book than the movie, also A Simple Plan by Scott Smith goes way further than the film, by a muted Sam Raimi. Villan I cheered for - Denzel Washington in Training Day cause he deserved a much better performance and film to win an Oscar for.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:20:03 PM CDT

    Pretty much every single Universal movie monster

    by jonah echo

    save for the Invisible Man who was just a dick, really.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:20:46 PM CDT

    I don't think I can read Scarlet Ibis today

    by chittychittygangbang

    It would hit home so hard, as I have an older brother I always tagged along behind.
    Man that was powerful stuff.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:21:24 PM CDT

    A Good Man is Hard to Find

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    Awwww fuck....that story is fucked up and creepy and stays with you for a long time. The last conversation with the killer and the grandma....truly haunting.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:22:28 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo -- how dare you slam Mr. Glover

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 1:23:06 PM CDT

    I cheered for Bruce the Shark

    by chittychittygangbang

    in parts II, 3-D and Revenge.
    My only regret was he didn't get the creaming girl from Part II.
    You know the one with tits like a sparrow...loved the mayor's son.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:23:57 PM CDT

    Brian de Bois-Guilbert from any version

    by jonah echo

    of Ivanhoe, but especially the BBC one where Ciaran Hinds plays him. I always, always thought the villain in this was not only more interesting,and more charming but ultimately more chivalric and dynamic than the hero. Ivanhoe spends most of his time wounded, half-heartedly wooing two women. Bah!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:24:17 PM CDT

    Jonah, Howard Chaykin turned it into graphic novel

    by toadkillerdog

    Magnificent work as well. That and the Demolished Man, stand as towering achievements in sci-fi.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:24:21 PM CDT

    I meant screaming girl in Part II

    by chittychittygangbang

    Although she may have creamed near the end. I'm not sure...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:24:36 PM CDT

    Villian I always sympathize with is Captain Hook

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    He is just lonely and feels shitty about getting old....fuck!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:26:55 PM CDT

    Sort of felt bad for Imhotep

    by chittychittygangbang

    At the end of Mummy Returns when she just runs off.
    I've had girls do that to me, only I wasn't hanging over a crevice with the souls of the dead beneath me.
    Although I came close to that scenario in New Orleans.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:27:15 PM CDT

    Danny..the story is a classic..

    by jonah echo

    and that last conversation is actually very deep, as well as being very moving. It's online if anyone wants to check it out. It's worth your time.

    "A Good Man is Hard to Find". If one person who hasnt read this story, goes out and reads it now, this talkback would have been fabulous success. As it is, it's already a success, due to the quality of company and conversation going on here.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:28:57 PM CDT

    Felt bad for Godzilla in 1998

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was just trying to build a nest and Ferris comes along and screws it up.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:29:08 PM CDT

    Hook-good call. I always wanted him to win..

    by jonah echo

    especially in the 2003 version. The look of resignation on Isaac's face as he crosses his arms and exclaims pitifully "Old, alone and done for" is priceless.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:29:33 PM CDT

    Ok, my all time favorite villain is...

    by toadkillerdog

    Francis Urquhart. Bunch of you are scratching your heads now. He was the villain of House of Cards. To Play the King. And The Final Cut. But villain does not do him justice. He was vile, cold, dark, ruthless, cunning, unscrupulous, murderous and funny as hell! he was played by Ian Richardson. if any Brits are on here, they will know who I am talking about.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:31:20 PM CDT

    Good Country People

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Jonah....did you ever read this great one from Flannery as well? About the door to door bible salesman and the girl with the prosthetic leg?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:31:21 PM CDT

    though I think it's a controverisal call..

    by jonah echo

    I always felt some sort of pang of sympathy for the killer in M, just for being what he was. It wasn't that I had mercy for him persay, but I was sad that he existed at all and had done all those unspeakable things. Peter Lorre of course is the total reason I felt that way.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:32:44 PM CDT

    Felt bad for Davey Jones in POTC

    by chittychittygangbang

    One of the best cgi human hybrids ever done.
    In the third one ecspecially.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:32:58 PM CDT

    Toadkiller, I know him..and Richardson was the MAN

    by jonah echo

    as was that series..Also, speaking of Richardson, another set of sympathetic villains was..

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:33:15 PM CDT

    Hook -he was just having a bad hair day

    by toadkillerdog

    Then Robin Pan made it worse. Never a goofier moment than when Pan rediscovers his childhood and grins like a pedophile in an orphanage. That was Spielberg at his sacharine overdose worse.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:35:29 PM CDT

    The Strangers from Dark City

    by jonah echo

    They weren't even evil, just approaching a problem from an alien perspective. I felt bad that they could never, ever grasp what they needed. I think if I had done the story, I would have relented, and allowed just one of them to discover that which they were searching for. Maybe it was just beyond them.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:37:01 PM CDT

    Also, who left the childgate to this TB unlocked?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 1:38:41 PM CDT

    Good Country People..

    by jonah echo

    was a great little story, and again alot going on underneath it all. Do you know that supposedly the Coen's credit this story with giving them the inspiration for the John Goodman bible salesman?

    How about Everything that Rises, Must Converge?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:39:31 PM CDT

    Good Country People..

    by jonah echo

    was a great little story, and again alot going on underneath it all. Do you know that supposedly the Coen's credit this story with giving them the inspiration for the John Goodman bible salesman?

    How about Everything that Rises, Must Converge?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:39:57 PM CDT

    Would have felt bad for Mr. Freeze

    by chittychittygangbang

    But that was one of the worst jobs I've seen from Arnold and that includes Hercules in New York.
    "Freeze in Hell!" bleeech!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:40:34 PM CDT

    Jonah, I need to re-watch Dark City

    by toadkillerdog

    It has been a while. I wil also re-watch Eqillibrium. I'm glad you saw Richardson's performance in those movies. He was awesome.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:43:33 PM CDT

    Good thing about Rolling Thunder..

    by jonah echo

    His posts count too.. Thanks RT.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:44:06 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    After Terminator - Arnold never took another pure villain role. It seemed he or his handlers decided that he could only be a hero. So, his Mr. Freeze, had to have a moment of redemption in it. Movie sucked anyway though -although Uma was smokin hot in that jumpsuit.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:47:46 PM CDT

    Yes, we are out pacing the Johnny Depp TB

    by toadkillerdog

    More topics

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:49:20 PM CDT

    Yep, forgot about Uma

    by chittychittygangbang

    She was pretty hot in that.
    I think Arnold should have snuck in a few more bad guy roles.
    Although if you only did one villian the Terminator was the one to do.
    Actually I wouldn't count Terminator as a full villain, as the true villain was the one who programmed him to do those things.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:50:03 PM CDT

    Gollum was obviously sympathetic..

    by jonah echo

    particularly the segments in the second film, when it seems as if he might finally have thrown off the dark persona, and then he is "betrayed."

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:50:41 PM CDT

    I liked Arnold's Mr. Freeze......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ......within that goofy colorful world he is fitting. He's got some great cheesy one-liners in there. And I think that moment at the end when he is flat on his back and moans, "She lives?" with tears in his eyes is some of his best dramatic acting. I'm serious.


    "TONIGHT'S FORECAST.....A FREEEEEEEEEEZE IS COMING!"

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:50:48 PM CDT

    jonah - oleg is the cure for, and cause of, cancer

    by ironic_name

    oleg is a principal oleg is a solid AND a vapor Oleg is an ex-Russian Special Forces asskicker.
    Oleg is also an idea and a feeling, as well as verb, a state of mind, and your biological father. oleg must break you. http://tinyurl.com/5s9v89 http://tinyurl.com/ywpe3k

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:54:36 PM CDT

    about HB 2.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    back to that again. I still haven't seen it and probably wont until DVD.....but a friend of mine was telling me the villain was too sympathetic? He said he was to grey and he couldn't really hate him as a villain but couldnt really like him either so felt it ruined the entire film. What you think?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:54:48 PM CDT

    Danny, Arnold will never top

    by chittychittygangbang

    His End of Days quote about what he told Satan.
    I was still laughing this morning about that.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:55:10 PM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    His Freeze did have some funny one liners. Uma and that great ass of hers though - damn!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:56:29 PM CDT

    Sympathetic villains-- damn....did anyone say Eckhart's Two-Face

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 1:58:53 PM CDT

    What about Orca?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Poor Killer Whale was just avenging his mate and pup.
    Richard Harris I guess would be the villian in that though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:59:00 PM CDT

    A FUCKING CHOIR BOY!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Another great line in End of Days: "Between your faith and my Glock nine millimeter, I'll take the Glock."

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  • Jul 30, 2008 1:59:24 PM CDT

    I was not a big fan of HB 2. I liked the first one much more

    by toadkillerdog

    The villain was pretty weak. Nothing compelling about him. He seemed more like a spoiled royal dude, who just wanted his kingdom back and people grovelling, more than anything else. It was not a good movie, not bad. But just felt lifeless to me though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:01:14 PM CDT

    End of Days

    by chittychittygangbang

    Did anyone else find it high comedy when he is fighting that old lady in the brownstone house?
    I think he had a one-liner for her to, but I can't remember it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:01:21 PM CDT

    Orca

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    amazing film that doesnt get enough love. I was totally rooting for the whale the whole time......and that song "Weeeeee.....weeeeeeeee are oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:02:57 PM CDT

    MORIARTY.....BAN ROLLING THUNDER....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I get thousands of my post history deleted because Capone was licking Paris Hilton's fucking ass and I called him on it, while Rolling Thunder can crack jokes about Harry's mom and he's still fucking here?!!! AAAAAHHHHH!! Where the fuck is the justice?!!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:03:20 PM CDT

    red heat = arnies best work

    by ironic_name

    KOKAINUM!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:04:03 PM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    Good line, but anyone who knows weapons would laugh at a 9 millimeter. Kids pop gun. Became famous in rap videos and drive by shootings, but has no real stopping power unless you unload the entire clip. A glock 45, on the other hand, that is serious firepower.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:04:18 PM CDT

    SEAFOOD MOVIES...

    by jonah echo

    new topic, especially since I just managed to discover the title of one of my own mystery movies. It was called Bermuda Depths, and involved a giant sea turtle, cursed souls, the devil, and Carl Weathers. Anyone see this? It had someone being caught in ropes being pulled along by a giant turtle who initials carved in it's back.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:05:26 PM CDT

    Danny..I liked the villain of HB2

    by jonah echo

    I thought his purpose and motives were good, but his approach was not. He added quite a bit to the movie. In my opinion.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:06:59 PM CDT

    bates motel! that was a failed pilot

    by ironic_name

    shoulda made it, every week lori petty in her chicken suit and some dude who knew bates and got his hotel help solve mysteries and help people, like a stationary a team or ghost whisperer. it had potential.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:08:29 PM CDT

    Holy Shit Jonah!

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remember seeing that! I always remebered that scene of the turtle dragging someone down and couldn't think of the name of it.
    Hot Damn, I'm going to Wiki now.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:10:04 PM CDT

    Orca reminded me on yet another Jaws ripoff - The Deep

    by toadkillerdog

    Jacqueline Bisset and Nick Nolte and a killer eel!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:10:17 PM CDT

    Bermuda Depths

    by chittychittygangbang

    Weren't they trying to cut the ropes very quickly, but it was too late? I remember one of the guys grabbing the knife from the other and trying very hard. Ahhh the good old days.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:19:08 PM CDT

    Chitty..from the bermuda depths wiki:

    by jonah echo

    This movie was initially shown as an ABC "Movie of the Week", a few years before the cable and video rentals era. Thus, it was a one-shot type of situation as far as being seen - and a whole generation of young children watched this film and remembered it from that one showing!

    As the internet grew, this movie was often the subject of many message boards and searches. Individuals (mostly Gen X'ers) were desperately trying to remember the details of the movie, and how to see it again or buy a copy. There was a VHS rental copy available in video rental stores - but that was hard to find. A few people who had a copy made a VHS to DVD transfer that was of sketchy quality, but for many who had not seen it since the late '70's, it was a prize!

    It seems to have affected a mass of young children, people who were aged 7-14 in 1978 in some kind of hypnotic, "mass dream" way. So many people recall their surreal and dream-like memory of the movie. It has been suggested that this was the effect of the Vivaldi score, or the ocean scenes, or the haunting subject matter of the film.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:20:25 PM CDT

    i gotta get a job where i can

    by irrelevntelefant

    spend more time it tb's... this shit is funny...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:21:46 PM CDT

    irrelevant..just so you know..Rolling Thunder aint one of us..

    by jonah echo

    he's just passing through on the way to Banned.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:25:03 PM CDT

    I saw that Jonah..

    by chittychittygangbang

    I wonder if I can get that score.
    I have some Vivaldi on my ipod, but I bet this score would take me back.
    Once I read that on wiki, the memories started flooding in.
    I can honestly see this effecting kids that way. It was surreal and I still remember that turtle going down.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:25:26 PM CDT

    Sympathetic Villains? Interesting

    by hawaiian organ donor

    1) Roy Batty2) Doc Ock3) Michael Douglas in Falling Down4) Jerry Lundegaard in Fargo 5) Seth Brundle after he transforms6) Magneto7) Michael Corleone

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:27:02 PM CDT

    me too..and that was all I remembered..

    by jonah echo

    Im serious, if they released a collection of those ABC tv movie of the weeks-the scifi/horror ones, I'd buy them in an instant and have a marathon viewing at my house.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:28:12 PM CDT

    Chitty..did you ever see Don't be Afraid of the dark?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 2:28:19 PM CDT

    And if Rolling Thunder is retarded and was molested

    by hawaiian organ donor

    As a child, then I guess he's a tragic villain too.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:28:34 PM CDT

    Jonah, The Deep!

    by toadkillerdog

    A) It represented a serious attempt at making an Eel a superstar? Or B) It pepresented a serious attempt at making Jacqueline Bissets Nipples dangerous objects that men will impale themsleves on?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:30:22 PM CDT

    HOD - feed a cold, starve a fever

    by toadkillerdog

    To bad we could not keeop the W TB alive with hottest political wives.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:30:29 PM CDT

    The Deep was awesome..

    by jonah echo

    ever see Tentacles with a giant octopus?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:32:41 PM CDT

    Is Bermuda Depths on youtube?

    by jonah echo

    I dont have access to youtube here. Can anyone check for me?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:35:10 PM CDT

    Toad, I just tried to post there

    by hawaiian organ donor

    And saw that it dropped off the charts completely.By the way, I picked up a bunch of bargain bin movies lately thanks to you guys. Movies like Last Action Hero and Deep Rising got plenty of mention the past month so I figured what the hell.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:36:17 PM CDT

    Roy Batty is a good one...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Also while I was taking a dump earlier after lunch I thought of another good villain I always felt for.....the main head of the camp Japanese dude in Empire of The Sun. When he watches Bale sing on the airstrip, he seems just as broken up about this war as anyone. Its not something he wanted to happen....but now that it has-- he has to be a dick......I mean he is running a work camp.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:37:07 PM CDT

    It is indeed on Youtube in 9 parts

    by toadkillerdog

    Enjoy when you get home.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:38:08 PM CDT

    So, new topic...lets go back to "mystery movies'

    by jonah echo

    from youth, or just mystery movies..I just found the name of one that had haunted me today. So, lets get to it. Anyone know a movie they aren't sure of, or are looking for the title?

    Our last round of this proved quite successful.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:40:57 PM CDT

    Toad...that is awesome..you should watch it too..

    by jonah echo

    In fact, is Don't be Afraid of the Dark on there? Is there a way, we could all watch some of these things, and then discuss them here.

    Who wants to watch Bermuda Depths and talk about it tomorrow? It has devils, turtles, Carl Weathers AND Burl Ives? Any takers?

    Thanks, toad..

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:47:38 PM CDT

    Yep saw Tentacles

    by chittychittygangbang

    Liked how they took care of it in the end.
    The opening was actually pretty good with the guy in the small sub.
    Gave good trapped in a metal coffin feeling.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:48:01 PM CDT

    Cathedral by Raymond Carver....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    ....is another great short story Jonah. About a guy's wife who is old friends with a blind man that comes to visit.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:49:03 PM CDT

    Cathedral was brilliant..especially that end..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 2:50:09 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo yeah totally.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    When he draws the cathedral with his eyes closed and says, "It really is amazing."

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:50:27 PM CDT

    so, Danny can we sign you up for checking out

    by jonah echo

    Bermuda Depths on youtube? I'll watch it tonight, see if it lives up to the childhood memories.

    Chitty? Are you game?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:50:29 PM CDT

    Dont Be afraid of the dark is also there

    by toadkillerdog

    Looks like in eight parts.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:50:44 PM CDT

    Speaking of the guy in Empire of the Sun

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Makes me think of Goethe from Schindler's. The guy is evil personified and yet when you see him on the chair, saying "Heil Hitler" and trying to maintain his dignity as he's about to be hung in that makeshift gallows, there was this tiny part of me that felt pity for the SOB because he's so pathetic.Feeding him into the chipper would have been better though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:52:30 PM CDT

    yeah HOD, but Goethe is a hell of a lot more evil...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The Japanese dude just yells and whacks people with sticks. He is no monster. Just an asshole.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:53:43 PM CDT

    Jonah-- sadly I cannot commit to Bermuda....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Though I would like to.....I'm moving next month so I got tons of packing and work to do around the place every day after work. Don't have much free time. Sorry pal.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:54:29 PM CDT

    Will watch Bermuda Depths tonight

    by chittychittygangbang

    But I will not reread the Scarlett Ibis.
    I can't believe that thing has been on youtube this whole time and I haven't seen it.
    Hope Danny checks out Rawhead Rex. Classic.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:55:27 PM CDT

    I other news..

    by toadkillerdog

    MSNBC has on their website: Tiny tree shrew can drink you under the table
    Mini mammals subsist on a diet roughly equivalent to 100 percent beer

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:56:13 PM CDT

    Robocop VS. Godfather

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hehehe....I just peaked into the Robocop TB and saw a few Robocop vs. Godfather posts. Thats funny.I dunno though....I might take Robocop as far as entertainment value goes....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:57:41 PM CDT

    Empire of the Sun

    by chittychittygangbang

    Also very good score. Take a wild guess who composed it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 2:58:00 PM CDT

    rolling thunder -- oh don't be an asshole

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 2:59:02 PM CDT

    here's a good one...rank your top 5 Spielberg Movies....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 2:59:22 PM CDT

    where you movin

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 2:59:34 PM CDT

    where you movin' Danny

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:00:55 PM CDT

    I assume RT will be leaving us soon..

    by jonah echo

    seeing as how I expect the Public Library's free internet will be closing soon.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:02:05 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    In my same area.....suburb of L.A. Looking for a slightly larger place, and a backyard for my dogs.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:04:35 PM CDT

    cool..what kind of dogs?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:04:45 PM CDT

    Wow, you guys must not have any porn to look at

    by pornking

    Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here all day as though you have nothing better to do.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:05:04 PM CDT

    The Beard

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    1) EMPIRE OF THE SUN

    2) THE COLOR PURPLE

    3) AI

    4) ET

    5) JURASSIC PARK

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:06:03 PM CDT

    you too Rolling......rank your Spielberg movies...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:06:38 PM CDT

    Danny...A.I.???

    by jonah echo

    good for you. Too many people dump on that one.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:07:05 PM CDT

    Don't get me wrong

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Goethe is possibly the worst monster ever put on the screen. There's just something pathetic about the way he meets his end.And then there are the Germans in Stalingrad and Japanese in Letters From Iwo Jima and watching them kill Allied troops makes me sick to my stomach and yet we somehow feel sympathy for the characters.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:07:27 PM CDT

    dogs

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    One is a giant Shepard mix that is the size of that werewolf in American Werewolf in London. And the other is a little black dachshund with a tough attitude.
    Jonah....have you noticed the attacks on our strong hold have begun?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:08:45 PM CDT

    HOD -- how did you like those Eastwood WWII films?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Haven't seen them. His stuff kinda bores me...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:09:39 PM CDT

    rolling thunder

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Munich is your 1,2,3,4, and 5?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:09:48 PM CDT

    The Beard

    by toadkillerdog

    1) Jaws 2) ET 3) Raiders 4) Munich 5)Color Purple

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:11:05 PM CDT

    Top Spielberg

    by jonah echo

    1. Raiders of the Lost Ark

    2. E.T.

    3. Jaws

    4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    5. A.I.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:11:37 PM CDT

    interesting a lotta love for Munich....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I like it alot too.....I guess it just doesnt have that signature Beard magic I expect from his films, and thats why its not up on my list.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:12:42 PM CDT

    yea, I noticed Danny..but my big question

    by jonah echo

    Who in the name of Clancy Brown is Johan?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:13:34 PM CDT

    Top five movies of my favorite director?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Talk about making it hard.1. Schindler's List2. E.T.3. Raiders4. Saving Pvt Ryan5. Jaws

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:13:45 PM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    That is what happens when you are the number 1 TB

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:13:56 PM CDT

    what are your favorite movies Rolling Thunder?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:14:48 PM CDT

    Speilberg top 5

    by chittychittygangbang

    1. Jaws
    2. Color Purple
    3. E.T.
    4. Jurrasic Park
    5. Raiders (barely over Minority Report)

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:15:17 PM CDT

    I'm changing my list

    by toadkillerdog

    Remove Color Purple, replace with Schindlers List

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:15:30 PM CDT

    Hook was pretty rancid too, RT...

    by jonah echo

    that is probably his worst movie IMO.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:15:31 PM CDT

    since Pillow is not here....I'll do his list for him....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood




    !) THE TERMINAL

    2) INDIANA JONES: KOTCS

    3) ALWAYS

    4) 1941

    5) THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:16:48 PM CDT

    Minority Report, however, is underrated..

    by jonah echo

    I think that's probably the Cruiser's best movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:17:20 PM CDT

    I'm one of the few that loves Hook.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I watch it probably twice a year. I have no idea how anyone can not like this film. When Peter gets his happy though of his son and plasts through the roof of the tree house and then takes his sword back from Rufio and crows while the lost boys cheer him on screaming, "Pans back!! Pans back!!" Pure fucking magic. Still gives me chills....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:17:34 PM CDT

    Again..your fave movies, Rolling?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:17:39 PM CDT

    We should have done a Top 10

    by chittychittygangbang

    Damn I was debating on top 5.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:18:05 PM CDT

    Indeed I've seen Eastwood's WW2 homage

    by hawaiian organ donor

    And I thought both films were brilliant. I'm still waiting for someone to do a Korean War movie. Those vets get hosed.Next 5 Beard films:6. Minority Report7. Munich8. Catch Me If You Can9. Empire of the Sun10. Amistad

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:18:57 PM CDT

    I won't bash it then Danny..

    by jonah echo

    it just seemed such a mess to me, and wasted potential..

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:19:32 PM CDT

    Jonah-- I called you Johan? hahahaha.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    So what is the popular favorite on here? Looks like Jaws or ET........rolling thunder....which would you take if you had to watch just one?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:19:55 PM CDT

    Duel is pretty awesome too..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:21:25 PM CDT

    greatest LiberalWarrior line ever:

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    "You ducked out on me on the getty TB. Then you got your dumb ass banned before we could rock and roll."
    Sounds like greaser slang....hehehe.....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:21:46 PM CDT

    Danny, I love Hook

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I know it's sugary crap and hasn't aged well, but it still fills me with magic and I love the soaring score by Williams.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:21:57 PM CDT

    no love for Close Encounters..

    by jonah echo

    It's on no ones list except mine?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:22:26 PM CDT

    Jonah-- slam it all you want, everyone does....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I just dont understand it. I love that film!! Great Williams score as well....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:24:50 PM CDT

    I think Hook has aged just fine....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Everything holds up. The music, the effects, certainly the sets and costumes. I just watched it about a month ago....and then I watch the Peter Pan film from a few years back and IMO Hook just wipes the floor with it. The flying wire work in Hook is so much better than the green screen flying of Pan that looks to bouncy and fake motion blurred.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:25:05 PM CDT

    Oh I love Encounters, but had to squeeze 5

    by chittychittygangbang

    It's a good movie and the score is well done.
    Scared the shit out of me when I was kid when the aliens were trying to get the boy from the house.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:25:09 PM CDT

    No, Danny. LibWars best line was

    by toadkillerdog

    To BraneRobot - "A starving, purple pus dripping, rabid, drooling hyena of hatred"

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:25:46 PM CDT

    Continuing on

    by hawaiian organ donor

    11. Temple of Doom12. Jurassic Park13. Last Crusade14. Hook15. Close Encounters

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:27:44 PM CDT

    His next best line - and yes, he cracks me up, is..

    by toadkillerdog

    Is also directed at BraneRobt: "You are nothing but a scared, quivering piece of radioactive coyote shit brought to life by Morbid beating off on top of you while dreaming of a crack addicts toilet seat" Hell that might be my favorite!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:29:04 PM CDT

    toadkillerdog

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You could take those lines and use them as lyrics for a new Coldplay song. They fit well.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:30:45 PM CDT

    The thing with Hook that bothers me now

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Are the Benetton kids. You would've been barely a teen I'm guessing when Hook came out and I'm not sure if you remember those damn Benetton ads (you probably do as the billboards must've been all over L.A.) and I think turning the Lost Boys into Abercrombie skater punks they were dating the film. I do love it though and will defend it with my dying breath.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:31:20 PM CDT

    Schindler's List..how did I miss it..

    by jonah echo

    That should have been in the top five..lets try this again.

    1. Raiders of the Lost Ark

    2. E.T.

    3. Jaws

    4. Schindler's List

    5. Close Encounters

    6. A.I.

    7. Minority Report

    8. Empire of the Sun

    9. Saving Private Ryan

    10. Jurassic Park

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:33:06 PM CDT

    Do people even forget that Spielberg did Amistad

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Or am I the only guy who saw it and/or loved it? No one ever mentions it when discussing the Beard.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:33:28 PM CDT

    By the way...did anyone else get the picture of

    by jonah echo

    RT fleeing like a scared girl when LW found him...You could almost hear the squeal. Dude definitely scrammed..though Im sure he will be back to bait "JOHAN"...

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:34:56 PM CDT

    HOD

    by jonah echo

    Amistad is a great movie..just not quite one of my faves...loved Hopkins performance, but even moreso, loved the opening of that film. Now that's a great opening.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:35:39 PM CDT

    Benetton kids

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hmmmm....dont remember the ads. And I suppose since I dont remember them...they dont seem dated at all to me. They are sorta Mad Maxish wasteland looking to me. I like the weird skater village he created with them. And I really think it is the best the lost boys will ever be. I liked how they have an entire village as opposed to one tree like in the story and the 2003 film. Those lost boys were weak as hell. I like the little black kid that touches Robin's face and makes him smile and says, "Oh there you are Peter." Very magical moment.....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:35:51 PM CDT

    You can not engage a troll of his nature

    by toadkillerdog

    I just will not respond to rolling thunder, not at all. It is pointless, he just wants an argument. Nothing more. When you ignore his type, they eventually get bored and go away. Because no one talks to them.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:36:26 PM CDT

    Liked A.I. very much

    by chittychittygangbang

    May sound strange, but the bear was my favorite character.
    "You will break."
    Only thing I really didn't like was the blue genie thing.
    Also liked Jude Law's take on the robot of love.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:36:54 PM CDT

    I guess I need to see A.I. and Color Purple again

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The only two Spielberg movies I've only watched once. I guess that makes me a wanker.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:37:30 PM CDT

    Oh....RW is EGGSALAD?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hehehe. I'm stupid-- I didn't even get that.
    My problem with Amistad was McConaghey (spelling?).....I just cant take that fucking guy in a serious role.

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  • have a good night all..I'll be back later.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:39:43 PM CDT

    Teddy is the best character!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    And that movie is absolutely amazing. Very very powerful to me when I saw it in the theater I totally teared up. The Flesh Fair was very disturbing.....especially when they fuck up that nanny bot after she is so nurturing and caring for David.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:40:06 PM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    I'm sorry dude, and HOD, but that movie damn near makes me puke. Speilberg is at his worst. He found two child stars in his entire carrer that did not over act or turn in insulin needing performnaces. Henry in ET, and Christian Bale in Empire. Every other child actor of his, was encouraged to mug, and play over-cute. Hook was just about the worst.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:43:07 PM CDT

    I could engage in a Spielberg TB for months

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Only someone with his resume could allow me to forgive Indy 4.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:43:08 PM CDT

    Watched Amistad on TCM recently

    by chittychittygangbang

    Was way better than I remembered. Felt very bad for the guy once he got back home.
    Also take a listen to Dry your Tears Afrika from Williams. Good stuff.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:45:15 PM CDT

    aaaawww toadkillerdog.....you have no heart.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 3:46:26 PM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You're the one that just listens to original scores and shit right? I really enjoy the soundtrack for Ghost and the Darkness when it comes to African sounding stuff.....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:48:11 PM CDT

    Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    I'm sorry Danny, but I never saw Robin as Peter Pan, and those kds especially the fat one, drove me up a tree. Ruffio, was ok. He didn't take no shit.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:49:19 PM CDT

    Toad

    by hawaiian organ donor

    To each his own. I can understand why people don't like Hook (or The Terminal or Always). I'll never understand the hatred for Munich or Minority Report though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:50:45 PM CDT

    I understand Always hate.....not The Terminal!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Its a simple cute little romantic film. What the fuck?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:52:11 PM CDT

    Toad

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    I do agree with you on the fat kid.....there are two things in Hook I dislike. Only two. The fat kid rolling in a ball gag.....and the cell phone quick draw at the beginning in Robin's office.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:52:42 PM CDT

    Ghost and Darkness

    by chittychittygangbang

    I will check that out when I get home. I don't have sound at work unless I crane my neck down to the speaker behind the tower.
    Listening to Theme from Schindler's List now.
    Powerful stuff.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:54:47 PM CDT

    My iPod is full of film scores

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You what sucks though? Older scores like Battle Beyond the Stars (Horner!) and The Black Hole aren't issued on CD.It's decided. I'm going to listen to the soundtrack to Glory on the long drive home.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:55:55 PM CDT

    Didn't hate Always

    by chittychittygangbang

    I like the little obscure movies like that. I wanted to live in that little town bad.
    Loved the location.
    It was Audrey Hepburn's last movie as well.
    I also wanted to live in the town that Roxanne was filmed in. That place looked fun.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:57:21 PM CDT

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    I really liked Munich and Minority Report. I never saw Always. I do not hate Hook, but I can not watch it. I think Speilbergs problem with kids started with Drew Barrymore in E.T. she grew up to be a good actress, but she was on sugar overkill in early days, but for some reason, The Beard loved that type. And ever since, every kid had to go overboard with mugging and too cutesy acting.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 3:58:21 PM CDT

    Munich has a good score....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But my favorite to listen to on a drive...THE ROCKETEER.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:00:59 PM CDT

    man Toad.....Charlie Korsmo is not cute in anyway

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 4:02:59 PM CDT

    No, but he mugged!

    by toadkillerdog

  • Jul 30, 2008 4:03:22 PM CDT

    Danny

    by chittychittygangbang

    Did you know that Jan (Michael's ex boss and lover on The Office) sang on that soundtrack.
    Begin the Beguine is it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:08:38 PM CDT

    We are crushing the other TB's

    by toadkillerdog

  • Jul 30, 2008 4:11:03 PM CDT

    HOD

    by toadkillerdog

    There is going to be an Obama and McCain comic book coming out soon.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:12:03 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What an odd piece of trivia.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:19:57 PM CDT

    No kidding, I was looking up

    by chittychittygangbang

    The Rocketeer soundtrack to see if I had any of the songs and her name (Melora Hardin) was beside it.
    I clicked on it and there she was.
    Yes, forgot she was a singer.
    Always forget that about Kristen Chenowith on Pushing Dasies too.
    Man she is smoking hot as Olive.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:27:21 PM CDT

    Melora Hardin is fucking hot

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Reading around about her.....another piece of trivia-- she was originally cast as Jennifer in Back To The Future opposite Eric Stoltz, but producers felt she was too tall to be opposite Fox when he replaced Stoltz, so they gave her the boot.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:28:14 PM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Do you buy cds for original scores?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:35:44 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Did you send those dvds?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:36:45 PM CDT

    Also, an origina. score lover here..

    by jonah echo

    Dragonheart score was fantastic. As was Nyman's score for Gattaca. I also really enjoyed, recently, the score for the third Pirates of the Caribbean. Nice, bombastic score. Newton Howard's scores for Shyamalan's movies are also quite wonderful.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:36:49 PM CDT

    Also, an origina. score lover here..

    by jonah echo

    Dragonheart score was fantastic. As was Nyman's score for Gattaca. I also really enjoyed, recently, the score for the third Pirates of the Caribbean. Nice, bombastic score. Newton Howard's scores for Shyamalan's movies are also quite wonderful.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:40:29 PM CDT

    Yeppers Danny

    by chittychittygangbang

    It is the best bargain you can find in Target, Wal-Mart or where ever.
    Apparently myself and about 10 other people buy these, because I find a bunch on sale for around 6.99 or even less sometimes.
    I then upload them to my ipod.
    Here lately I have gotten a bunch straight from itunes though.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:40:39 PM CDT

    The Pacific miniseries produced by The Berg

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    HOD....did you hear about this. Its Hanks and Spielberg teaming up for another HBO WWII miniseries, this time about the Pacific leg of the war. Fucking awesome.....I think it starts shooting in the fall and is to air in late 2009.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:42:24 PM CDT

    I love the Brick score....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    still listen to that one regularly.....

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:43:05 PM CDT

    It's not a score but...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Check out the Into the Wild soundtrack by Eddie Vedder. He does all of the instruments and the singing of course.
    Look for Hard Sun, Society and Rise Up.
    Good stuff and great movie.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:47:00 PM CDT

    Signs

    by therewolf

    Love that score, play that a lot. Can't beat a bit of Elliot Goldenthal, though. The Final Fantasy and Alien 3 soundtracks are stunning. Have just bought Brick on DVD. Is it decent?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:47:56 PM CDT

    Into The Wild soundtrack was great

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    One of the reasons that was my favorite film of 2007. I love that first show of Emile in the beginning when his weathered face comes into view just as Vedder starts singing. Awesome stuff.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:49:05 PM CDT

    ThereWolf -- you haven't seen Brick?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 30, 2008 4:51:34 PM CDT

    Signs is good, as is The Village

    by chittychittygangbang

    I highly recommend the Village score.
    The Gravel Road is best of the lot in my humble opinion.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:52:36 PM CDT

    Brick is pretty good......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    JGL does a good job. But I really think the original score was too good for the film. The score is amazing!

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:54:33 PM CDT

    Into The Wild

    by chittychittygangbang

    Talking with a freind about and he said the only thing he would change (joking of course) was to let the kid go out in a blaze of glory. Firing his gun in the air, jumping up and down on the bus and then fade to black.
    Personally I would have him head butt that bear to go out in style.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:57:11 PM CDT

    Agreed on POTC scores

    by chittychittygangbang

    Most of them have that booming style that matched the movie very well.
    He's a Pirate is best example.
    Also like the sedness of the track called Davey Jones. Organ work is not bad.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 4:57:54 PM CDT

    DannyGDB

    by therewolf

    No, man. Just picked it up today. Should I be watching this ASAP?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:00:19 PM CDT

    Heading home now

    by chittychittygangbang

    Will watch Bermuda Depths tonight after teeny goes to sleep.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:01:26 PM CDT

    ThereWolf

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Kick your fucking monitor over right now and fire that baby up. JGL is da bomb yo.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:01:32 PM CDT

    So many questions

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Yes, I've heard about The Pacific and I'm jazzed like hell.I sent out the DVDs but I had to send yours by regular mail as I figured sending it from FedEx at work might raise suspicions since none of our employees will live further west than Michigan.The Rocketeer is Horner's second best score behind Glory. Although it's close with Krull and Willow which I recently re-discovered. Soundtracks that get no goddamn love: The Patriot (one of William's best), Wing Commander (shit movie but gusto score), Tron (yes, I know, those 80s synths might be cheesy to some) and Rudy (makes me feel like running onto the field during Panthers games).

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:07:59 PM CDT

    Hans Zimmer is poop IMO

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Dont get the love for that synth orchestra.....he has only made decent music twice.....Gladiator, and The Dark Knight (probably more on account of James Newton Howard). Other than those two everything he does sounds like Michael Bay car chase to me.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:09:22 PM CDT

    DannyGDB

    by therewolf

    Oh, I hears ya, baby! But it's 10 past 11 over here in dear old Blighty, my eyes are beginning to cloud over and this bottle of vodka isn't helping. It's got grass in it. And I don't mean puff. I mean as in a piece of lawn. Fuck knows why.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:10:35 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Rockin....how many people got 'em?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:14:50 PM CDT

    Glory

    by therewolf

    That is a beautiful score. Not a huge fan of Horner but that one is a blinder.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:30:41 PM CDT

    Waterworld score is bad fucking ass

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    James Newton Howard

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:34:04 PM CDT

    Land Before Time

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Damn didn't know Horner did this one until now. I was just reading over his imdb. He has some interesting films on there.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:35:55 PM CDT

    Howard vs. Horner

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Wow....comparing both resumes.....Howard destroys poor Horner.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:42:56 PM CDT

    V...

    by therewolf

    For Vendetta: There's a cue in that, when Evey walks out onto the balcony in the rain, it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Don't mind admitting I teared up a little. The one that made 'em roll down my face though was Close Encounters, at the end when the music builds into 'When You Wish Upon A Star.' Hey, come on, I was only about 12.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:47:04 PM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So far only you, Series, Jonah and Pillow responded to my offer so you four are the only ones.The Dances With Wolves soundtrack is great too.Horner recycles too many themes but that's why Glory is so good. It's wholly original. It's a three-way tie with Mohicans and Empire for my favorite scores of all time.Nice to have your input here, ThereWolf. Always appreciate a man who appreciates film scores.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:52:27 PM CDT

    man whats up with Eric Serra?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    He did all the Besson shit....Big Blue, Nikita, Professional, 5th Element, even that bad ass Jean Reno film Wasabi (anyone see that? Its funny as hell). This guys just fell of this face of the earth. He's awesome.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:54:42 PM CDT

    Zimmer...

    by therewolf

    Sometimes you can't beat a bit of bombast. Gladiator, Peacemaker, Crimson Tide. And then there's that cue in The Thin Red Line when the soldiers hit the village and there's just absolute chaos - it's a shattering piece of music but it plays against what's happening on screen.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:58:35 PM CDT

    Zimmer composes Diablo Cody flick

    by larry sellers

    I was always under the impression that the "stripper pole" and "lap dance" comments made in that Diablo Cody post a while back were references to her former career and not her gender?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 5:58:46 PM CDT

    Thanks HOD

    by therewolf

    I always think a good score should be able to stand on its own without the pictures.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 6:00:24 PM CDT

    Hans

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Alright alright.....I found two more decent things he's done, Tears of the Sun and Last Samurai-- those scores were pretty good I gotta say. You know he finances small indy films all quietly?....which I thought was really odd. A friend of mine is getting one going through him. A tiny 2 million dollar indy comedy, somehow Hans found the script and is putting up 500 grand. He doesn't even get producers credit or anything....and he has been involved in small films for over a decade. Weird.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 6:05:41 PM CDT

    Zimmer

    by therewolf

    Apparently he used to be in the 80's band The Buggles - y'know, Video Killed The Radio Star and all that? Don't know if that's true.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 6:31:30 PM CDT

    The Thin Red Line

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Great piece of music. Some haunting stuff there.Anyone a fan of the Kingdom of Heaven soundtrack?If Zimmer is helping independent artists, he's a-OK in my book.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:07:42 PM CDT

    HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

    Hey HOD, I am pretty late here but is there really hate for Munich? I can't even understand that! It's one of my favorite Spielberg movies. That team of jew assassins was just super badass to me. how is that movie not on more people's top ten beard lists?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:19:49 PM CDT

    this is super late too

    by kungfuhustler84

    but one of my favorite cop movies has to be Police Story with Jackie Chan. Those stunts are just incredible. I love when he's swinging around on that bus with just an umbrella. And i also really dig French Connection for both the Gene Hackman performance and the incredible sense of reality the film gives off.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:19:56 PM CDT

    this is super late too

    by kungfuhustler84

    but one of my favorite cop movies has to be Police Story with Jackie Chan. Those stunts are just incredible. I love when he's swinging around on that bus with just an umbrella. And i also really dig French Connection for both the Gene Hackman performance and the incredible sense of reality the film gives off.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:21:11 PM CDT

    don't understand how the double posts happened

    by kungfuhustler84

    am I now ruining this incredible talkback? Damnit. So much cool stuff being discussed and I missed most of it.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 7:48:05 PM CDT

    kungfuhustler84

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I didn't realize the hate for Munich until the threads on AICN had people crapping all over it. And nobody seems to think it deserved a best pic nod. And look at the critics best of lists for 2006. I don't think Munich is on a single one.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:22:36 PM CDT

    Eric Serra

    by thead

    Also did the music in Goldeneye... I thought it was effective. But I don't know of many other American films he's done (other than Besson's films). Mind you Luc Besson hasn't really done any American films since The Fifth Elemement either. He's been sticking to producing mosty -things like The Transporter, Unleashed, and Kiss of the Dragon.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:26:53 PM CDT

    David Arnold

    by thead

    Speaking of which, Why is every James Bond movie since done by David Arnold?

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  • Jul 30, 2008 8:49:49 PM CDT

    TheAD

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Good question. It's not like Arnold is terrible. The ID4 soundtrack is light and fluffy and has a few rousing pieces, even if you can almost hear the jingoism in some of the movements. And the Stargate score was good at the time because we were desperate for bombastic themes at a time when Sleepless In Seattle and Forrest Gump type soundtracks were the only offerings.

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:44:00 PM CDT

    you're not serious anchorite, are you?

    by irrelevntelefant

    public enemy rapped about painting the white house black back in the late 80's

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  • Jul 30, 2008 11:51:12 PM CDT

    Hey I've been

    by series7

    gone all day, but did we make sure to wish Arnold Schwarzenegger a Happy Birthday? I hope so, I wouldn't like him when he's angry.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:04:04 AM CDT

    Eric Serra's 5th Element score

    by series7

    IS THE BOMB!!! Well yeah, I like that theme song and the diva song. I have the sound track/score and have been wondering this for a long time but all of Bruce Willis lines (there is this song with quotes from the movie mainly the scene where Bruce first meets Ruby Rhod) are dubbed by some Blimey British Bloke??? Anyone else notice that?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:07:02 AM CDT

    DAMNIT!

    by series7

    I got David Arnold mixed up with John Debney. Debneys score for Inspector Gadget was awesome, best cartoon to movie score followed closely by Micheal GinchonaioLost/Ratatoullie guys score for Speed Racer. Speaking of Gadget what ever happened to Mr. Cool As Ice him badself Dr. David Kellogg?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:11:47 AM CDT

    Did Kellogg go into hiding

    by series7

    With Kinka Usher (director of Mystery Men), chilling with Dean Parisot (Galaxy Quest)? How the fuck do all of them really got nothing (Well Kellogg isn't any good, and I guess you can count Dick and Jane). But ass clowns like Raja Gosnell are blowing UP! Debney also did Sin City and The Passion of the Mel Gibson.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:06:25 AM CDT

    mystery men

    by wyvern

    please don't mention that mess but please say anything about galaxy quest(one of the few movies I watch just about every time it is on)

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:44:36 AM CDT

    Jim Caveezel

    by zeck

    jim came to my church a few weeks ago and talked about the paison of christ. he semed nice he was selling the new testament on cd with a whole bunch of actors playing paul and stuff. i bought one it is realy good the prodution quolity is very good

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:35:11 AM CDT

    Scores that get no luvvin'

    by moody by nature

    On the subject, one of my faves has got to be Patrick Doyle's score for the '94 Frankenstein - amazing, and unappreciated up the wazoo. Also, although it's damn near impossible to find, is Jerry Goldsmith's 'burbs score. That thing rocks - quirky, dark, perfect. Now there's a neighborhood I wanted to live in when I was a kid...

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:47:24 AM CDT

    good morning all..

    by jonah echo

    A score I really like, and find underappreciated like the movie it appears in-Soderbergh's Solaris. That score has a very entracing quality to it, especially coupled with the lava-lamp like visuals of the surface of Solaris in the film.

    Clooney did a great job, but I think it's the combo of those visuals and the music that even make this one relevant to me in the face of the Tarkovsky version, which I completely love despite it's 100 hour running time.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:49:58 AM CDT

    Fifth Element score..

    by jonah echo

    this was the first film score I bought, back in 97. It's a great piece of work, with alot of different styles melded together, and it creates it's own mood and atmosphere outside of the movie it belongs to. I still find myself listening often to this one..good call.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:54:57 AM CDT

    Meet Joe Black score...

    by jonah echo

    I don't know how anyone feels about the movie-me, I love it, but this score is seriously one of my all time faves. If you enjoy score music, you totally owe it to yourself to check this one out.

    It is right up there with Shawshank Redemption as Newman's best score. Also, the Wall-E score is pretty brilliant in it's own right. Really beautiful stuff.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:59:48 AM CDT

    What does this have to do with George Lucas?

    by marduk

    Hit me with your Yub Nub beam

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:01:27 AM CDT

    Johnny Greenwood's work on TWBB

    by jonah echo

    I find it's not easy listening in the car music, but when coupled with the movie it's from, it's a revelation. It totally feels like horror movie music, and adds a sense of dread and alienation to even harmless scenes of people driving or walking over the dusty earth.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:16:22 AM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I was going to mention Meet Joe Black but thought I would get laughed off this TB. I listen to that one all the time. That 10 minute end piece is perfection.And no, the movie isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:17:37 AM CDT

    Mummy 3

    by jonah echo

    Drew says it's disappointing, and I value his opinion, but it's hard not smile when reading stuff like this from Alexandra's mega-negative review:

    Oh, right: There are Abominable Snowmen in this movie -- three of them. At one point, one of them kicks an evil Chinese soldier over a goalpost-shaped piece of architecture. The Yeti behind the placekicker Yeti raises his arms straight in the air like a referee signaling "touchdown."

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:22:21 AM CDT

    Randy Edelman and his 3 scores..

    by jonah echo

    for Dragonheart, Last of the Mohicans and Gettysburg.

    All three bombastic, and over-scored. All three terrific and moving.

    For good measure throw in his scoring of Brisco County Jr. and Anaconda for more great work.

    The man does his job well.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:23:30 AM CDT

    People are mentioning some fairly obscure stuff

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'd love to listen to some of that stuff but most of them aren't on CD or even iTunes yet.Growing up as a kid I was the only person I know who listened to film scores. The first one I picked up was Barry's "The Black Hole" at K-Mart and I wore the vinyl on that sucker out.It's good to know there are actually folks like me who listen to soundtracks in the car.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:25:22 AM CDT

    Me too..HOD...right now

    by jonah echo

    I have the Casshern score playing in my car. I love it, and strangely, my wife loves it more than, despite having no interest in the movie it's from.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:29:35 AM CDT

    I haven't listened to Dragonheart in years

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Great stuff.I take it no one here has grabbed scores for the Asian stuff like Oldboy and The Myth.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:33:56 AM CDT

    Casshern was terrible

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I barely got through it. What a letdown.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:41:24 AM CDT

    HOD..I didnt think it was horrible..but

    by jonah echo

    it was a letdown, and not very good. It was the most anticipated foreign movie for me the year it came out. I had no idea how off the mark I was in regards to it. That was the year I watched gorgeous trailers for both that and Immortel, and found both to be terribly lacking when I saw the actual film. Add Natural City to that trio as well.

    Casshern's score on the otherhand, while not having finesse, is almost operatic.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:42:45 AM CDT

    Peter Gabriel

    by therewolf

    The score for The Last Temptation Of Christ, by turns percussive and unsettling. I'm not religious but the track 'It Is Accomplished' nearly makes me want to go to church. Oh, well, back to sodding work. Keep this thread alive!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:00:16 AM CDT

    I wore my Temptation of Christ tape out

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That was a brilliant score. Sadly I haven't listened to it in over 15 years.Natural City, Shiri and 2009 Lost Memories were the first three Korean movies I watched and the hype over them was tremendous. I found them to be major letdowns and I almost gave up on their cinema. Then I saw a little movie called Tae Guk Gi.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:05:16 AM CDT

    Tae Guk Gi

    by jonah echo

    An excellent film. I bought for a friend for Christmas one year, and they were similarly blown away. A great war film.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:07:01 AM CDT

    Gabriel's score for Rabbit Proof Fence

    by jonah echo

    is a masterpiece and haunting. And I recall listening to the score during the film, and commenting that it sounded like Gabriel, only to be vindicated when his name came up at the end. Fantastic stuff, both score and movie.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:19:22 AM CDT

    We'll I'll be pig fucked!

    by chittychittygangbang

    You guys are on early this morning.
    Try Vide Cor Meum from Hannibal. Good stuff.
    Also You're So Cool from True Romance.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:26:19 AM CDT

    Don't laugh but...

    by chittychittygangbang

    David Arnold on the Godzilla score has Opening Titles and Looking for Clues.
    But are rather generic starting out, but get pretty rousing towards the end.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:47:55 AM CDT

    Since I really can't afford to buy soundtracks anymore

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I have to settle for what's up on Rhapsody and I don't know if it's the labels or the composers or both, but the selection they have is lacking.And frankly, it's a disgrace how few soundtracks pre-1990 are actually available.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:48:34 AM CDT

    Anyone here like anime?

    by jonah echo

    That could be a new topic. I dont go out for the series stuff much, but there is some very good stuff out there in the anime category.

    Anyone see Cat Soup, Grave of the Fireflies or Tokyo Godfathers? All great stuff.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:53:12 AM CDT

    Also, Mori's ep of Fear Itself is tonight..

    by jonah echo

    I'll be watching, and I need to finish Bermuda Depths as well. Tomorrow is my regular scheduled day off, so I'll be able to post more on both then.

    Remember guys, 10 p.m. on NBC. Doug Jones. Larry Fessenden. A script by Drew and Scott.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 8:58:19 AM CDT

    I missed Bermuda Depths last night

    by chittychittygangbang

    wife had to use computer for class work, but will watch today at lunch. Can't believe it is on there.
    Jonah, so far does Bermuda Depths hold up well?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:11:45 AM CDT

    Michael Nyman's Gattaca score is amazing.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Someone mentioned that earlier. He gets no love really.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:16:10 AM CDT

    I'm know next to nothing about Anime - I have two or three movie

    by toadkillerdog

    Ghost in the Shell. Prncess Monomuke(sp) Howls Castle. I love all three though. Looks like over/under on rolling thunder was waay too over! His butt is gone already.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:27:09 AM CDT

    Danny..I mentioned Nyman and Gattaca..

    by jonah echo

    That score is brilliant. It works perfectly as a stand alone piece that evokes sci-fi themes without ever knowing what movie it is from.
    When added to the movie, it creates the depth and emotion of the piece. It actually gives that movie the heart to go with it's brain. If you remove that score, you honestly have a half as effective movie. Not many films or scores you can say that of, and I don't mean it as a slight on Gattaca.

    Nyman has also done inspired work on Ravenous, The Ogre, The Piano and Prospero's Books. The guy is a genius.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:29:41 AM CDT

    Goldenthal's Batman work is fantastic

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Now that is music that can be appreciated completely outside of the films. His Two Face weird electronic circus music crap from Forever, is so bizarre and inventive.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:31:48 AM CDT

    Toadkiller..have you seen the 2002 anime Metropolis?

    by jonah echo

    It's based off Tezuka's manga Metropolis which is based off Fritz Lang's Metropolis. You have the Ziggurat, Tima(who is a take on Maria) and the crazy doctor and so on and so forth. It has characters done in the astro-boy style, but the film is a great visual feast. I HIGHLY reccomend it. There is an apocalyptic scene near the end that plays Ray Charles "I Can't Stop Loving You" and it's amazing.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:34:54 AM CDT

    Grave of the Fireflies

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    Is the only anime sort of thing I own. It makes me fucking cry every time. Beautiful film. I found it years ago because Ebert said it was one of the best WWII films of all time. Oh....and I own an old beat up VHS copy of Akira someone gave me 15 years ago. I think Akira is overrated....I'm sorry, but I just cant enjoy that thing.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:43:39 AM CDT

    Danny...

    by jonah echo

    Grave of the Fireflies is the best anime ever done, IMO. It is one of the saddest films I've ever seen, and one of the most beautiful, animated or otherwise. I also saw it, per Roger's recommendation.

    Let me digress for a moment, and recommend Roger's Great Movies section to anyone who wants to extend their cinema knowledge by catching movies. Roger may not always kowtow to the tastes of what everyone wants, but he writes passionately and the Great Movies section is how I found many great films, and he writes about them so lovingly, that at times one is moved just from hearing him talk about a certain scene. The man is a real treasure. I think I need to write him a letter, expressing that, before I no longer have the opportunity.

    Danny, Akira is VASTLY overrated. It is a visually accomplished piece of convoluted philosophy and bargain basement sci-fi stuff. The success of stuff like Akira has contributed to anime having that reputation of arcane, hard to digest specialty fiction only palatable to a narrow taste.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:45:25 AM CDT

    First anime for me was Unico

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was a little unicorn that had to fight off this huge black demon that blacked out the sky.
    For a kid that went thinking it was just a regular cartoon...wow.
    I didn't sleep that night at all.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:47:37 AM CDT

    Chitty, that's Unico and the Island of Magic

    by jonah echo

    and it was a wierdly dark little movie. I don't recall liking it much, but what strange flick, especially when everyone turned into bricks of the city.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:49:25 AM CDT

    Jonah....did you see Triplets of Belleville?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I loved that film. Weird as hell.....but easily accessible. Its a strange, moving film with great animation. I like the dogs dreams on a bike in front of a projector playing real footage. I thought Wall-E was gonna do more shit like that with real footage. Hey....what if Wall-E was all real footage but Wall-E himself ws CG'd over the real plates? Would that have been accepted or would the Pixar fans gouge their eyes out? I dont understand why the human animation looked so shitty and poorly designed. That gay sailor character....what the fuck?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:53:30 AM CDT

    Maybe it was the mindset I had

    by chittychittygangbang

    I was babysitting my sister and turned the satellite to G4 channel something(yes we had the in-the-ground dish that was about eight feet across) and saw this cartoon on.
    I prepared her lunch and sat down with her as this thing played out.
    That little pop I heard was my mind being totally blown.
    She was too small get weirded out and just seemed happy a cartoon was on.
    She didn't even seem fazed when the mouth of the demon came open and bats or ravens flew out. Weird.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:54:00 AM CDT

    Jona, I have not seen Anime Metropolis

    by toadkillerdog

    But it sounds intriguing. Grave of the fireflies is on my list of movies to buy. Akira is overrated. I saw it at theatre, and was underwhelmed.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:02:26 AM CDT

    New Topic - Movies on list to Rent and or Buy

    by toadkillerdog

    I am not going to include movies from this TB or the other B movie TB - because it has made my list unwieldy, but prior to these TB's a partial listing looks like this, in no particular order - a very eclectic list: Bad Boy Bubby Napolean(PBS Empire series)Seventh Seal L'Aventura Last house on the Left The candy Snatchers Best Seller LA Reine Margot Amelie Gypsy Moths Savage Messiah 12 Monkeys Black Belt Jones The Beast in space The World according to Garp

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:02:37 AM CDT

    I enjoyed anime at one time

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But have given up on it. Way too much trash to sort through to get to the good stuff.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:09:33 AM CDT

    my queue

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Ummmm.....I dont have a "to buy" list....but here are the next 15 films on my queue. Interesting bunch.

    The Mist

    House II

    Papillion

    Young Sherlock Holmes

    Invaders From Mars

    Deepstar Six

    Touch of Evil

    Southland Tales

    The Stoned Age

    Around the World With Orson Welles

    Youth Without Youth

    The Devil and Daniel Johnston

    Jack The Bear

    Death Sentence

    Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Chipmunk Adventure

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:16:32 AM CDT

    no one can compete with my amazing list? ha.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 10:18:53 AM CDT

    I'm stunned over the Alivin and Chipmunks

    by toadkillerdog

  • Jul 31, 2008 10:21:53 AM CDT

    I'm on a movie buying hiatus right now

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The next movies I buy will probably be the summer stuff: Iron Man, Hulk, Speed Racer, etc.Once again, because of you guys bringing up older movies, I've got Commando, Empire of the Sun and Silver Bullet at the top of my Netflix queue.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:23:40 AM CDT

    A moment when you wished you were a kid again

    by toadkillerdog

    I was in a walmart last night, and I walked past toy section. They had a serious amount of Dark Knight toys. But the huge battery powered Batmobile, the cape that extends like glider wings, and and the utilty belt that fires nerf darts, grabbed my attention. No, I did not buy them. Instead I consoled myself with a new trailer hitch for my truck.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:24:47 AM CDT

    They also had a voice changing Star Wars storm trooper helmet

    by toadkillerdog

  • Jul 31, 2008 10:25:40 AM CDT

    Death Sentence?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Is that the one with Kevin Bacon? Because if it is, it's the worst movie you'll see this year. Someone at work recommended that turd to me and when it was over all I could think was that it should have been renamed Death By Cliche Sentence. Just terrible.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:29:27 AM CDT

    Chipmunk Adventure

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I fucking loved that movie....but I haven't seen it in years. Come on that scene with the Mayan dudes about to sacrifice the chipettes, but instead they bust out a choreographed stomp to "Sam the Sham" Samudo'S
    "Wooly Bully," right there in the fucking temple. Bad ass.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:31:37 AM CDT

    I was in Target last week and browsed the toy aisles

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I wanted to squeal at all the cool stuff.I still remember standing in a check-out line at K-Mart with my parents a few months after Star Wars came out and seeing the action figures on the end aisle. I had never seen anything like them before. I grabbed as many as I could but was only allowed to get two. My brother went with Vader and Solo, I got Luke and Kenobi.I'm looking forward to get Legos for my daughter.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:36:26 AM CDT

    HOD-- DEATH SENTENCE

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Really? It sucks?!! Fuck!! Those trailers were bad ass. And I love how its based on the sequel book to Death Wish that Bronson's people didnt have the balls to adapt. They said it was too brutal. So I thought for sure this thing would kick some major ass.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:41:24 AM CDT

    Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You might like it. Everyone around here seems to think Pathfinder is crap yet you love it (which is why it's sitting at #4) so you're tastes are as forgiving as mine it seems. It was just too formulaic to me and had a major flaw that as a family man I couldn't let slide.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:45:53 AM CDT

    Triplets..

    by jonah echo

    On Valentine's Day back in 2003, my exceedingly selfless and loving wife(who has an actual revulsion for most anime and grotesquely animated stuff)found a theater showing this and bought us tickets. It was an amazing movie, and though she did find the animation off-putting she admitted that Triplets had three times the character development of a talky feature and noted that there might be two or three lines of actual dialogue in the movie.

    It is not a japanese anime, but it's French, and it's a true classic. It is visually unique and never ceases to impress on the imagination front. Loved the details of the grandma with the clubfoot.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:49:02 AM CDT

    I am forgiving

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    I just understand every film must be watched through a different lens. Its why I'm able to love so much cheap horrible shit.There are the genuinely good films, there are the fun time cheesy/fun films, there are the so violent they are hilarious films, there are the so kick ass you cant help but feel more manly while watching films, there are the bad but you gotta love 'em for nostalgia films, there are the films so bad that takes themselves so seriously they are hilarious films, and the films so bad that know they are so bad that they are fun film, there are the award winners, the films that think they are award winners, and then all the other shit in between I dont watch.
    I dont understand the hate for Pathfinder, The Patriot, or Hook. I just dont get it. Pathfinder is a film with little to no story/dialogue, great photography-- about a guy raised by indians hacking vikings to pieces with various weapons. A damn fun time for me.....

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:51:46 AM CDT

    Death Sentence isn't very good ..

    by jonah echo

    It's like HOD says. Very cliche, and if it's the same flaw Im thinking of, he is absolutely right.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:12:36 AM CDT

    ok..new topic.. best special effects sequence..

    by jonah echo

    how about a top ten of your faves..or the ones that blew you away when you saw them..again, a specific list of individual scenes. Let's go.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:15:56 AM CDT

    Also, it doesn't have to be a super technically excellent scene.

    by jonah echo

    it can just be something that affected you. For instance, one of mine would be the scene in the original Godzilla, which I saw as a child, when he first ravages the city. The illusion worked for me, and at the same time was the first movie where I started noticing the "how they did that". The seams were massive, but sometimes the seams are part of the fun. As Ebert has said, the seams prove that this is a handcrafted effect, made by a person, not a computer.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:18:48 AM CDT

    making Maggie G look cute in Dark Knight

    by toadkillerdog

    Oh, wait a minute. That one did not work. Um, give me a minute. I'll get back to you.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:20:28 AM CDT

    making Tom Cruise the same height as Nicole Kidman

    by toadkillerdog

    Now, that took some doing!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:22:18 AM CDT

    My top ten list of best fx sequences..starting with ten.

    by jonah echo


    10.Gojira-the first raid on the city by Godzilla. The music, the placement of objects, the looming shape of Godzilla. They mined the atmosphere of the scene, because they didn't have the realism, and I think this is totally holds up as classic.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:22:38 AM CDT

    Keeping the scenery looking the same after Nic Cage chewed it

    by toadkillerdog

    Pick a movie. Great SPX work on that.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:25:21 AM CDT

    Jonah - you know I am a big fan or the orignal Big G

    by toadkillerdog

    Just does notget any better than that first movie. I have watched a ton of monster flicks in my life, and still the Orinibal uncut,non bastardized with Raymond Burr inserts, version of Godzilla is the king

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:26:35 AM CDT

    Jonah, this is what I'm referring to

    by hawaiian organ donor

    ***SPOILER FOR DANNY TO IGNORE FOR DEATH SENTENCE***Jonah, for me the issue was Kevin Bacon NOT sending his family away regardless of the police protection, which was flimsy as hell to begin with. A violent gang tries to kill you? You send your wife and kids FAR AWAY until the dust settles. I can't believe any father/husband would be that stupid.***END SPOLIER***

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:26:49 AM CDT

    9. The lawnmower scene at the end of Dead Alive

    by jonah echo

    Sometimes you can just attempt to show something no one has seen before,or wants to see, and that can trump the technical prowess. Jackson was agenius of fx manipulation even on a low budget, and seriously, I recall watching this scene and thinking, how did they do this? It totally seems like the main character literally tore through hundreds of zombies. It was visceral, and grotesque, and way over the top and as you observe it as a technician, you see quite easily how it was done. But how many of you were thinking of the practical effects the first time, and how many were simply sitting there with a "WTF" look on your face?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:33:29 AM CDT

    thanks for the warning HOD--

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    special effects....let me think

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:33:46 AM CDT

    8. Paint world from What Dreams May Come

    by jonah echo

    We can debate the merits of the actual film all day, but the world composed of paint was just freaking awesome to me, not only in it's concept, but it's conception, and the moments that show Robin scooping up mounds of it in his hands. It's vfx illustrating a whole world, and I think it was beyond impressive.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:36:16 AM CDT

    7. The sinking of the Titanic

    by jonah echo

    It was just amazing. For me, James Cameron's Titanic is a 45 minute movie, that begins with the iceberg hitting the side, and ends with the last bit of the proud ship sinking beneath the waves.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:38:58 AM CDT

    6. Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite from 2001

    by jonah echo

    Haunting and odd and completely unique to anything you had seen before, while still somewhat familiar. Hard to make something we know of look real, harder still to render the abstract, I think. A masterpiece sequence.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:39:29 AM CDT

    Special Effects

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Some that come to mind:

    I thought a lot of the effects in Willow were very well done when I first saw it. The Brownies being made small......the lady in white fairy queen woman in the forest that was actually shot underwater.......the morph shit of Fin Razel was really cool.

    Of course Jurassic Park. That single wide shot of the T-Rex stepping out of his paddock into the rain is the greatest single effects shot of all time. The texture of his skin with rain pouring off it will never ever be surpassed.

    The scene between Gandalf and Bilbo in Bilbo's home is still amazing. They did such good work on making the actors Hobbit size for FOTR....and in the next two it looks like complete shit. (not all effects....just hobbit effects)

    Jaws is an amazing achievement........

    I was very impressed with the Hollow Man effects I remember. Haven't seen that in years...

    Blade Runner miniatures and shit....amazing!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:42:04 AM CDT

    5. The Battle of Pelenor Fields and Minas Tirith.

    by jonah echo

    There is real heart, emotion and depth to that sequence, and it is often just absorbing at any given moment. It is the quintessential fantasy movie battle.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:43:51 AM CDT

    4. Normany Beach in SPR

    by jonah echo

    This is fantastic. All the detail, and it captures the anguish and the emotion, and harder still historical accuracy, as well as real world authenticity(guy carrying his arm) and while it's doing all those things, it's take your breath away intense.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:45:24 AM CDT

    I think the effects in the prequels are pretty amazing.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    Whether you agree with the choice of a full digital world or not. Its a pretty insane achievement to create an entire all encompassing world like that and have it work. Maybe it didnt completely work for the film....but it worked in its execution just fine. People overlook how good the effects really are because of their hatred for the prequels themselves. Shit like the molten factory place in Episode II.....fucking amazing that Hayden and Natalie are just jumping around on greenscreen treadmills. Or the final Anakin/Obi Wan fight in Episode III. The lighting and steam effects and shit completely sell it. If you showed that scene to someone from 1950 they would shit their pants that you put your actors in that much danger around a river of lava. Some shit really stands out as being greenscreened......a ton of stuff in ROTK I think. But that final fight scene is perfectly composited and blended.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:46:34 AM CDT

    In no particular order, here are the scenes

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That either blew me away because I didn't know how they did it or were so technically perfect I was beyond awestruck:-The battle on Hoth-New York and L.A. getting smoked in ID4-The lightcycles in Tron-Nightcrawler's assault on the White House-Most of Roger Rabbit but the kitchen scene where Hoskins is hiding Roger from the weasels in particular-The T-rex busting out of it's pen and attacking the SUVs-Spidey fighting Doc Ock on the subway-The tiny dudes walking on Willow when he was tied down-The T-1000 morphing from the black and white floor tiles to the security guard-The receptionist in Total Recall who changed her fingernail colors with the pen-The very first scene we see the Predator cloaked when he takes out the guy with glasses

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:47:04 AM CDT

    3. The special Spielberg's fantasy movies award, since I'm a che

    by jonah echo

    E.T. flying in front of the moon, Indy and Marion in front of the ark, the T-Rex attacing the truck, Bruce eating the back end of the boat, the mother ship of Close Encounters, the face-slide of the robot in A.I., the mine cart race in TOD. Heck, that's almost ten for Spielberg alone.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:48:05 AM CDT

    that should have read Normandy for SPR..

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 31, 2008 11:49:16 AM CDT

    2. Blade Runner

    by jonah echo

    I ADORE everything they did with this special effects wise. Truly awesome.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:50:37 AM CDT

    1. Hoth attack on the rebel base

    by jonah echo

    A perfect scene, as someone pointed out the toher day, there are sequences that seem seamless, but we KNOW they can't be.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:53:03 AM CDT

    awesome effect shot in Alien Resurrection

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    When the dude is screaming, "What the fuck is in me?!!" And camera zooms into his mouth, past his tonsils, down his throat and into his stomach where a chest-burster growls, read to burst out. The dude charges the bad guy and holds his head to his chest-- killing them both as the beast breaks through. Very well designed sequence.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:53:12 AM CDT

    HOD..regarding DS, we are on the same page

    by jonah echo

    that was also the sticker for me. Was harder to be sympathetic after that move.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:54:17 AM CDT

    Kong vs. the 3 Rexes

    by jonah echo

    awesome..as is the original from 33 with only one Rex.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:54:18 AM CDT

    Kong vs. the 3 Rexes

    by jonah echo

    awesome..as is the original from 33 with only one Rex.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:55:01 AM CDT

    Let me tell you a scene I would NOT pick

    by chittychittygangbang

    I just got finished with Bermuda Depths and can't believe some of the scenes.
    I know there budget was small, but that toy boat was very obvious.
    But other than that it is still a very entertaining story. I suggest a viewing as Connie is smoking hot.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:55:12 AM CDT

    That's funny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Danny and I both mentioned the Brownies because that's pretty obscure to most people.Jonah, I agree with Titanic and the Omaha Beach landing. Both are technical achievements that will never be matched.My list above aren't the only scenes that wowed me, just the ones that immediately came to mind.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:58:49 AM CDT

    Jackson's Kong was amazing effects-wise

    by chittychittygangbang

    Yes, love the creatures in the film, as I did not know he was going to have that many.
    But the thing that got me in the theater was the battle over New York.
    I looked down the aisle that I was on and you could see people moving their legs and squirming in their seats.
    Those shots and angles were amazing.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:59:11 AM CDT

    5TH ELEMENT!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Again...a mention of this damn thing. The traffic scenes were amazing! It looked completely real, like he was really driving through that. Those effects still hold up.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:59:40 AM CDT

    HOD, don't give up on Kmovies yet

    by ironic_name

    try "the quiet family" and the host both good - and kim ki duk's movies are slow as, but have brilliant little moments. oldboy has a fantastic score.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:59:41 AM CDT

    Chitty..the funny thing with Bermuda Depths..

    by jonah echo

    is that the end scene had grown in my mind. I knew it wouldnt look like I pictured it, because in my mind the budget was 300 million dollars, the filmmakers had raised a sea turtle to gigantic size and had in my mind the scene was also in HD. Seeing the actuality was both nostalgic, and disappointing, but at least I know I'm not crazy. That being said, it is a fun movie, and if they released a pack of these old tv movies all together-like Don't Be Afraid of the Dark, Trilogy of Terror, Bermuda Depths, The Devil Dog, Don't Go to Sleep, Satan's Triangle, and Gargoyles...I'd be first in line.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:00:53 PM CDT

    Mission Impossible III

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Best morph scene ever. Really amazing use of an old school technique when Cruise puts on the make-up to become PSH. A single shot on a circular dolly. Great shot.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:01:31 PM CDT

    Fifth Element..that whole thing is a glorious effect..

    by jonah echo

    Danny, it was the first movie I bought on blu-ray. And up on a big screen, it looks fantastic. There is no reason FE should be as good as it is, but I'm so glad that's the case.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:02:41 PM CDT

    the "running through the house bit" in contact was well done

    by ironic_name

    as was the scene in immortal beloved where wolfgang wades out into a lake, that becomes the universe it's on youtube.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:03:21 PM CDT

    crazy thing bout Kong 2005.

    by jonah echo

    on top of the Empire State building as we see the skyline, and the buildings, we aren't looking at the 2005 city skyline of NY, but the 1930s syline of NY. To go to those lengths with the detail is staggering.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:03:32 PM CDT

    No kidding, I'm playing Vivaldi rest of the day

    by chittychittygangbang

    Maybe it was the music and the turtle's siren call.
    But that movie took me back to sitting on the living room floor, right in front of the TV.
    I'm glad it was summer so I could stay up to see the end.
    Good trip back in time, as the effects were the only thing I was disappointed in. Rest was still very fun.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:05:17 PM CDT

    Fifth Element rocked because of the score

    by chittychittygangbang

    That score matched so well with the movie.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:05:37 PM CDT

    War of the Worlds

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Both versions actually. In the 50s version, which I saw for the first time in 1975, those effects were still awesome. There was one scene in particular when the doctor and the woman are flying over the country and you get this wonderful panorama shot that always amazed me.Of course with Spielberg's version, there's the initial tri-pod attack which is one of his finest sequences on film.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:06:03 PM CDT

    akira's soundtrack is cool, so is the professional's

    by ironic_name

    oleg lives!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:06:20 PM CDT

    Seriously, I want some of the other members of

    by jonah echo

    our enclave here to watch at least a chunk of it, if they get the chance. Then we all can discuss. If you choose section 8 of Bermuda Depths, you will be mostly up to speed and you will only have spent ten minutes while seeing Burl Ives and Carl Weathers vs. the Omega-turtle.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:06:49 PM CDT

    Dragonheart

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    How could I forget Draco? Probably one of the best full CG creatures in a lead role ever created. And it was still pretty early in the CG game. There are a few shots in particular when he is standing in water in that lake arguing with Quaid that are fucking astonishing. Shit like this and the T-Rex impress me a hell of a lot more than something like Gollum.....mocap is cheating. I dont consider that nearly as big of an achievement as a creature no one has seen before that must be fully animated from scratch just based on elephants and other large animals movements. With Gollum they are just filling in texture basically.....damn good texture, but still just texture work.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:07:34 PM CDT

    eric sera ftw!

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:08:59 PM CDT

    Sorry been gone

    by series7

    But some people and HOD mentioned Peter Gabriel. I think he did the score for Wall-E, its really good. The end song is awesome. His cd with the song Up on it is really cool as well, it fits into that style. Now someone help me out here, was Peter Gabriel the original lead singer for Genesis? And Phil took over, but he doesn't have any hits with them?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:09:13 PM CDT

    Starship Troopers

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Amazing work by Phil Tippet. Some seamless transitions in there from CG to animatronic bug and back to CG bug. That famous napalm shot of thousands of bugs racing across the desert before being engulfed in flame is fucking awesome. Or the shot in the cage when the Bug tears up that cow and it is blocked out......great lighting and compositing of that bug to make him look like he is really in that room.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:09:16 PM CDT

    Also, we have exceeded the 2012 TB, have we not?

    by jonah echo

    To think that this late in a TB, we came across stuff like Bermuda Depths, have fended off trolls, had intelligent discussions on scores, fx, and Spielberg. I can't wait to see what has transpired when we reach 6,000. Which, Im sure we can do. We have a rhythym going now.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:09:25 PM CDT

    Dragonheart - ending made me cry like bitch

    by ironic_name

    like a little girl.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:11:02 PM CDT

    Dragonheart-when he looks

    by jonah echo

    wistfully and says "My soul." The work was amazing. As was the scene where he dives into the water, and we see his wings propelling him, just under the surface.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:11:05 PM CDT

    Fifth Element Score question

    by series7

    That no one answered I think. Bruce Willis lines were dubbed by some british guy in one of the songs??? Anyone?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:11:19 PM CDT

    ironic_name

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Believe me, I didn't give up. I almost did but that was 3 years ago. Since then I've gobbled up all the Korean movies I can. These guys will tell you, I'm the #1 source on AICN for Asian film now and Korean movies have become my forte.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:11:25 PM CDT

    is vangelis still alive?

    by ironic_name

    blade runner was wonderfull

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:12:24 PM CDT

    Vangelis

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yeah he's still kickin'. He does all this world music stuff and performs all over the world. He scored Alexander....a great great score.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:15:16 PM CDT

    Elfman

    by series7

    I know he's been getting a lot of backlash recently. But didn't rememeber anything besides the NIN song in Wanted, but his work on Hell Boy 2 was really good. But I say his best score was for Beetlejuice, that was classic. Anyone remember the Gremlins 2 main song?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:16:09 PM CDT

    Series7

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Yes, Gabriel was the original front man for Genesis. And they had hits over in the UK but not here. With Abacab, and Phil Collins, they finally broke into the US market big time.He didn't score Wall-E though.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:21:59 PM CDT

    I never heard of Phil Collins until Miami Vice - TV show

    by toadkillerdog

    His, in the Air tonight, just kicked major ass, and was the perfect theme for that show. New Topic - Best TV themes!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:27:28 PM CDT

    good stuff HOD

    by ironic_name

    any k movie recommendations? I wanna see a man who was superman, as it just might be the second best superman movie ever..
    http://tinyurl.com/6oybhv

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:28:05 PM CDT

    HOD

    by series7

    Oh ok cool, I always thought that Invisible Touch was their first CD. Kind of like a AC/DC thing where the lead singer died right after their first cd, or No Doubt.
    I thought he worked on the score? Either way the Wall-E score was awesome and his song at the end was very good.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:32:01 PM CDT

    Newman did Wall-E, but Gabriel

    by jonah echo

    contributed to the score, and did a song or two.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:32:38 PM CDT

    rosario's tits and vangelis, I have to watch that someday.

    by ironic_name

    best theme? I'm partial to miami vice, and magnum pi is hilarious

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:32:56 PM CDT

    let me specify Thomas, not Randy, Newman,..

    by jonah echo

    I know Pixar has a fondness for Randy, but it was Thomas Newman.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:34:37 PM CDT

    rugrats theme is great

    by ironic_name

    mothersberg is an asskicker.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:35:06 PM CDT

    best t.v. theme song ever -- Darkwing Duck

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Darkwing Duck
    When there's trouble you call D.W.
    Darkwing Duck
    Let's Get Dangerous!!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:35:08 PM CDT

    Ebert's review of The Mummy..

    by jonah echo

    he, as always, might be one of the few positives out there for this, but based on what he says, I think he had the right viewpoint:

    "I was not, however, pleased by "The Mummy Returns" (2001), although it inspired one of my funnier reviews. But "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" is the best in the series, and from the looks of it, the most expensive."

    "Now why did I like this movie? It was just plain dumb fun, is why. It is absurd and preposterous, and proud of it. The heroes maintain their ability to think of banal cliches even in the most strenuous situations. Brendan Fraser continues to play Rick as if he is taking a ride at Universal Studios, but Mario Bello has real pluck as she uses a handgun against the hordes of terra-cotta warriors."

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:36:42 PM CDT

    We sure do go through new topics quick

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The previous ones are barely in the grave yet.Best TV theme of all time: Greatest American Hero.Rockford Files theme is catchy. Original Battlestar Galactica theme (new stuff is great though). The Jetsons. Star Blazers. The Sopranos. The Office. Night Court.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:37:07 PM CDT

    Mummy 3 looks fucking awesome

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hopefully it will wash the bad taste of Indy IV from my mouth and give me some real adventure to close out the summer.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:37:53 PM CDT

    X-Files theme..of course

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:38:18 PM CDT

    I do enjoy The Office.....only theme like that

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:40:04 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    We just said all that could be said about Special Effects. We mentioned Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Willow, Dragonheart, Starship Troopers, 5th Element, Roger Rabbit, Terminator 2, King Kong, LOTR trilogy.....what else is there? We were just too efficient with that one.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:40:25 PM CDT

    My favorite fx shots

    by kungfuhustler84

    easily the enitre 33 King Kong. That movie was a landmark for me as a kid. Running through the woods as a five year-old was never the same again without pretending to be a monkey. The Hoth scene is definitely pretty incredible still. Blade Runner is an incredible feat on its own. Also I really love the ending scene in The Host when that guy is throwing all the molotov cocktails at the monster and it's running around while smoke is billowing everywhere. The cinematography in that scene is just beautiful to me. And I don't know if this counts but the shot in the Errol Flynn Robin Hood where the arrow goes through a candle light into a guard and it snuffs out the candle and the whole room goes dark. The amount of coolness and detail in that scene I think go above and beyond.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:41:31 PM CDT

    *goes above and beyond

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:51:24 PM CDT

    Errol Flynn is a fucking pimp in that movie

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:51:52 PM CDT

    bee-leevitornoht! ahm-walkinonayherr, nevuhthoughtIcudbsofreeheh

    by ironic_name

    great, now I'm gonna hear that for hours.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:53:57 PM CDT

    peter gunn theme.

    by ironic_name

  • Jul 31, 2008 12:58:48 PM CDT

    indeed DGDB

    by kungfuhustler84

    what about when he goes stomping into the castle, smacking fools around with the dead deer on his shoulder and proceeds to just parade into the room, dropping the deer carcass right in front of the bad guys. By the way fellas, the score int hat scene is incredibly rousing. Hell the whole thing is just one of the most classic scores ever in my opinion.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 12:59:07 PM CDT

    tranformers was shite, of course but the fx were ok

    by ironic_name

    before the battle sequence. shit designs, shit 'directing', but it was photorealistic spider-man 2 had amazing effects, though the half a billion $ 3 was crappy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:00:16 PM CDT

    Ironic and Series and everyone else

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Ironically enough (pun intended), I just sent out a btach of movies to some of these guys yesterday of mostly Korean films.My recommendations: Mr. Vengeance (which I liked slightly more than Oldboy), Musa, Public Enemy, Daisy, A Bittersweet Life, A Dirty Carnival, The Big Swindle, Memories of Murder, Save the Green Planet, Running Wild, Les Formidables, Typhoon, Arahan, The Art of Fighting, Crying Fist, The Foul King, The President's Last Bang, I'm A Cyborg But That's OK, The Chaser, Open City, The Restless, Big Bang...I could keep up recommendations all day.And right now The Guard Post and The Good, The Bad and The Weird are playing over there and I can't wait for the video release.I think Phil Collins joined in the late 70s around the time of their album Duke.I'm going to have a great time with the Mummy whether it sucks or not. And I'll get in people's faces who hate it but loved Indy 4. Anyone who excuses Tarzan swinging and monkeys attacking Soviets but has a problem with Chinese punting Yetis is a wanker.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:04:14 PM CDT

    another good score

    by kungfuhustler84

    Leone's Dollar trilogy. talk about atmosphere

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:06:52 PM CDT

    the Good the bad and the Weird

    by kungfuhustler84

    is probably my most hyped movie of the year. I absolutely love those two trailers. I can't wait!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:09:35 PM CDT

    i dont really like Ennio's Dollar Trilogy scores....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The entire crowd gives one collective gasp. Hehehe. Of course the famous themes are great and the music itself is well written, I just think it takes you out of the films. I think Leone is overrated as hell to begin with, but the music in most cases is more powerful than the image. His work on Untouchables was fucking jaw droppingly good and I cant believe I forgot to mention that yesterday

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:10:56 PM CDT

    I figured you'd back me up on the Host HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Jul 31, 2008 1:12:29 PM CDT

    I quite liked Indy 4..but I expect to

    by jonah echo

    enjoy the punting Yetis as well. Life is too short not to enjoy punting yetis.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:13:05 PM CDT

    maybe I'm crazy

    by kungfuhustler84

    but I love the Sanjuro character's theme song in the movies Yojimbo and Sanjuro. It just makes me happy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:14:34 PM CDT

    It might seem dated now, but the FX shot

    by hawaiian organ donor

    In Back to the Future with the explosion of smoke and the flaming tire tracks when the car disappears floored me the first time I watched it.And of course I forgot the dojo fight between Morpheus and Neo. I couldn't believe what I was watching the first time.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:14:55 PM CDT

    you know what was funny yesterday ?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    when I tried to get Rolling Thunder in the conversation and asked him his top five Spielberg films and he just said MUNICH. That was right before Liberal Warrior charged in here like a fucking Yeti and chased him out screaming at him. They are like to ghosts cursed to chase eachother around these boards for eternity.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:15:48 PM CDT

    Loved Dukes of Hazard theme song

    by chittychittygangbang

    Beats all you ever saw, been in trouble with the law sice the day they were born.
    Classic.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:17:50 PM CDT

    The Host

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    One of the few Asian films I have seen in recent years. I absolutely loved it. Not so much because of the monster (which was cool too) but because of the family dynamic. They were such interesting characters you felt like you knew so well. I love that moment in the store they break into when they see the girl for a second sitting there. Weird.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:19:12 PM CDT

    Looooved the Host

    by chittychittygangbang

    Movie easily met the hype it was given for me.
    Isn't there a second one on the way?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:19:40 PM CDT

    Munich

    by kungfuhustler84

    may not be his best (Schindler's List) but it is certainly my favorite movie by Spielberg after Raiders.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:22:16 PM CDT

    kungfuhustler84

    by hawaiian organ donor

    For a modest budget, The Host had some great FX shots. When the beast first attacks on the riverfront and he loses his footing, well done.Have you seen The Chaser yet?Watched it on the weekend. All I can say is, hooooooly sheeeeeeeet.I'm also really looking forward to Public Enemy Returns.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:22:56 PM CDT

    the family dynamic in Host

    by kungfuhustler84

    was definitely the best part of the whole movie. I don't know who the actor is that played the loser dad but he was incredible to me. So was the grandfather.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:24:22 PM CDT

    I didnt mean that as a slam to Munich

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I love Munich. It was just funny when he finally responds he just says one word....MUNICH, when I asked his 5 favorites from The Berg.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:24:49 PM CDT

    I'll check it out HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

    always grateful for your entirely kick-ass recommendations.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:26:13 PM CDT

    You guys always restore my faith in the world

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Nice to see the love for Munich here.<p.LiberalWarrior is doomed to police these boards.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:26:34 PM CDT

    Danny..your reaction to that is a little delayed..

    by jonah echo

    but I agree, it was quite funny. When he said "Oh, look at you trying to take control...and then said Munich." I kept asking him to name something, but he refused..and then Liberal Warrior ripped through the talkback wall like Macho Man Randy Savage, and chased him right out. I haven't been frequenting this place long enough to see something like that. It was quite hilarious. And of course today, he is banned. As soon as he came on here I knew that week prediction for how long he would last was too high.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:29:41 PM CDT

    The guy who played the loser dad in The Host

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was also AMAZING in Memories of Murder.I got in an argument last year with my brother and two friends who all thought Munich was crap but loved Crash. Now, you guys know me well by now. Imagine the control it took to keep my head from exploding.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:31:13 PM CDT

    It was like RT was raptor and LW was Trex

    by chittychittygangbang

    RT is trying to attack and WHAM! LW sweeps in and shakes him back and forth.
    Nice.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:32:32 PM CDT

    HOD..it's funny because I havent seen you go

    by jonah echo

    off. I didnt go to the political talkbacks, but noticed you came back shaken, and enraged. I havent been on here long enough to see you break bad on anyone.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:34:40 PM CDT

    it has dawned on me that we should have one fake

    by jonah echo

    screenname, that could function as TB watchdog. Like LW, that could sweep and clear the place of Trolls. I am far too mild mannered for that (everyone inspires sympathy in me) but it would be funny.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:34:40 PM CDT

    it has dawned on me that we should have one fake

    by jonah echo

    screenname, that could function as TB watchdog. Like LW, that could sweep and clear the place of Trolls. I am far too mild mannered for that (everyone inspires sympathy in me) but it would be funny.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:35:58 PM CDT

    Crash

    by kungfuhustler84

    the most overrated film of that year. It was good but did not deserve all that praise it got. Damnit.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:37:40 PM CDT

    Yeah HOD, I had somebody say...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Armegeddon was better than anything Speilberg has done.
    This person stated they were more entertained by Armegeddon than any movie they can remebember.
    I really didn't know what to say.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:39:00 PM CDT

    Chitty, there is nothing you can say..

    by jonah echo

    you just ask the nurse to take them back to their room, and you leave the hospital.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:39:48 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    You wanna see HOD enraged......insult Nasa. Hahaha. Thats how we first met. He told me to go to a remote cabin and shoot myself. :( Fuck!! Its fun memories like that, that I fucking lost when my posts were deleted!!! DAMN!!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:40:49 PM CDT

    Lol..how did you reconcile?

    by jonah echo

  • Jul 31, 2008 1:41:15 PM CDT

    fake login names.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Jonah, thats how I ride. I have a ton of names I use. I'm Rolling Thunder, Cock Tease guy, Memories of Murder-- I am several elusive characters.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:44:08 PM CDT

    I don't go off on people over movies

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So it's unlikely you'll see me go ballistic here. But you catch me in a political TB and I'm a lunatic. Danny and Toad can verify that.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:44:40 PM CDT

    what the fuck?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hahahaha. Are you just sitting there reading our posts for hours COCK TEASE?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:45:21 PM CDT

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    Are we to assume you are FMB as well?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:46:24 PM CDT

    who is FMB?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 1:48:50 PM CDT

    SERIOUSLY DISTURBING REAL NEWS HERE..

    by jonah echo

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/world/sns-ap-canada-bus-stabbing,0,3056410.story

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:49:49 PM CDT

    Wasnt there a guy on here..

    by jonah echo

    called F*** Michael Bay?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:50:00 PM CDT

    HUH????

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Ok, did that just happen? Danny, WTF dude! Seriously? That's you?Jonah, we reconciled over our love of movies. It was Big Trouble in Little China that did it actually.Danny and I caught each on a bad day. He said Neil Armstrong should go hang himself with barbed wire and I brought up the shotgun in the cabin. before the week was out we were discussing the relevance of jack Burton. And now I'm sending the guy movies.AICN. Go figure.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:51:22 PM CDT

    Jonah you are evil....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Now I can't eat. That is the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:51:57 PM CDT

    for those who can't follow link..

    by jonah echo

    here's the story.

    Passenger says attack on Greyhound bus in Canada leaves young man decapitated

    By Associated Press


    2:44 PM EDT, July 31, 2008

    PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Manitoba (AP)

    _ A man aboard a Greyhound bus repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a fellow passenger, witnesses said Thursday.

    The man was arrested for the killing, which occurred Wednesday night aboard a bus traveling from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said in a statement.

    Authorities declined to name the attacker and victim, and provided no other details about the attack.

    But passenger Garnet Caton said the victim was stabbed dozens of times by the man sitting next to him. The passenger then severed the man's head with a large knife.



    "We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers had been taken to rest.

    "There was no rage or anything. He was like a robot, stabbing the guy."

    Caton said passengers raced from the bus but then he, the bus driver and a trucker at the scene re-boarded to see what was happening.

    Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him."

    He said the attacker calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head.

    "He dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up," said Cody Olmstead, a passenger from Kentville, Nova Scotia.

    The victim, who Caton said appeared to be about 19, had been on the bus since Edmonton. He said the attacker boarded the bus in Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.

    The suspect had been on the bus about an hour and initially did not sit near the victim.

    "He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.

    "We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting.

    "He put his bags in the overhead compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally normal," Caton said. "About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling scream."

    Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver were on the bus.

    Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called the attack bizarre, but did not discuss details, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:53:22 PM CDT

    So, seriously, you really are CT, Danny?

    by jonah echo

    if so, then I'm taking you to task for razzing me yesterday!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:53:32 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    No no.....hahaha. That is not me!! I was totally kidding saying I'm all these people and apparently Mr. Cock Tease sits in our TB reading. He doesnt wanna ruin his horny persona-- so he cant contribute, but he does enjoy our discussion quietly. COCK TEASE.....PLEASE CONFIRM THIS TO BE TRUE.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:54:40 PM CDT

    I AM NO COCK TEASE!!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 1:54:43 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    OK, that's funny. Well, not really.A bunch of my friends in Toronto sent out that link this morning already. That's right out of a horror movie.But like one of them replied, "If I was riding a bus through the Prairies I'd probably do the same thing."

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:55:14 PM CDT

    I bet

    by lost.rules.

    the victim was talking loudly on hic cell phone. If that is the case, then I applaud the efforts of the upstanding citizen who cleansed that bus!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:57:14 PM CDT

    Fuck me!

    by hobocode

    That articles was FUCKED UP! I thought psychos like that only existed here in the U.S.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:57:19 PM CDT

    That is seriously crazy Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    And BTW I am actually, DannyGlovers_DickBlood. Wasn't there a movie that everyone took credit for being a subversive? Not V for vendettta either. Jonah, I just assumed you were Harry in disguise, come to mingle with the masses.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:57:38 PM CDT

    no thanks

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 1:59:25 PM CDT

    holy shit Jonah

    by kungfuhustler84

    that's fuckin crazy. And to think I almost rode a bus back to Oregon for the summer. I'm happy I flew now.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:59:30 PM CDT

    And the passenger from Kentville

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I've been to Kentville and believe me, that's the most entertaining thing she'll have seen in her life.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 1:59:55 PM CDT

    that story is fucking crazy

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    and actually sickens me. One of the nastiest things I have heard in a long long time....damn you Jonah. Poor young guy, he was probably on his way to see his parents or friends.....fuck.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:01:28 PM CDT

    and on that note....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I'm going to lunch!! Yeeehah!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:02:16 PM CDT

    No, it's me, Judd Apataow..

    by jonah echo

    keeping an eye on my #1 "fan" Danny. Of course, it might hurt my celebrity to admit I am also Danny.
    In fact, there is only one person in this whole talkback, besides Moriarty. Or maybe it's even less than that?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:02:18 PM CDT

    Not that i was calling you a subversive Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    You are colorful.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:04:50 PM CDT

    Node

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I guarantee you the killer is an Indian. Canada has real issues with Indians and reservations, especially in Quebec and the Prairies.Now that would make a good episode of Fear Itself.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:09:14 PM CDT

    Damn Injuns.

    by hobocode

    Why didn't we just wipe them all off the continent? Wait a second...

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:12:18 PM CDT

    honestly, we don't know that yet regarding the killer..

    by jonah echo

    the part that disturbs me is this scene of everyone running off the bus and just standing there, listening to this dude eviscerate the poor guy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:14:50 PM CDT

    for something lighter...

    by jonah echo

    http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2007/04/behold-hidden-gusset.html

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:15:04 PM CDT

    HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

    so how does a fella go about convincing you it's cool to send him DVDs?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:24:55 PM CDT

    kungfuhustler84

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Send me an e-mail with your mailing address. This is an old one I use specifically for spam so make the subject line unique so I can pick it out of the Viagra and Cialis stuff.grumpy_is_good@yahoo.com

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:32:43 PM CDT

    okay dude I will get on that soon

    by kungfuhustler84

    so how does it work for you? Do you just want me to send them back after awhile or is there a specific amount of time until you want them back?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:33:07 PM CDT

    Whether he's an Native Indian or just a Canuck off his nut

    by hawaiian organ donor

    This sounds like a guy you don't wanna f*** with. My guess is the other guy was dead by the time people realized what was going on and trying to engage a psycho with a Rambo knife is a widowmaker. My friends and I had this discussion earlier and I said unless I had something heavy in my hand or a couple guys backing me up, I would have been a cartoon outline in the side of the bus. I'm not a pansy, but a confined space, lack of light and Buffalo Bill does not inspire courage in me.

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  • I'm sure the dude was dead even before he knew what to do about it. I just mean, imagine the horror of hearing that dude reduce another human to cutlets, and not sure if he is going to come off that bus or not.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:36:43 PM CDT

    anyway, I nearly killed this TB dead..

    by jonah echo

    by bringing up that story. We need a new topic. Anyone got one?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:37:52 PM CDT

    kungfuhustler84

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The discs are yours to keep. We just need to figure out what I have that you haven't seen.You have to swear allegiance to the CoC as well.Give us your favorite Jack Burton quote and you're golden.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:39:47 PM CDT

    dead before he knew it?

    by hobocode

    witnesses heard a blood curdling scream. couldn't have died that quickly.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:40:36 PM CDT

    FUCK IS ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT STORY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 2:42:15 PM CDT

    Jonah, don't ever feel like you can't inject news in a TB

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Even that twisted stuff is worth discussing.But since this story has on the topic, what's the single most disturbing moment in film history for you?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:42:53 PM CDT

    I got a topic!

    by kungfuhustler84

    favorite samurai movie anyone?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:42:56 PM CDT

    HoboCode

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yeah a blood curdling scream could have been the initial thrust in the throat. With a giant knife like I imagined, he would be dead in seconds.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:44:23 PM CDT

    most disturbing moment

    by kungfuhustler84

    is easily the scene near the end of saving Private Ryan when that Nazi is slowly stabbing the Jewish soldier and the knife is just sinking into him inch by inch. It still really gets to me.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:45:52 PM CDT

    No worries Jonah, we still have a large lead in the TB

    by toadkillerdog

    New Topic. What was your first and or greatest geek love? For me, it is a tie. I was a comic book super geek, from early age. The Avengers were my first love. I just loved The Vision. But hard on it's heels was the originnal Star Trek - in re-runs. I aint that old!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:48:25 PM CDT

    Jack Burton quote

    by kungfuhustler84

    "Okay you people sit tight, hold the fort and keep the home fires burnin. And if we're not back by dawn...call the president." Big rouble in Little China was the first DVD I ever bought for myself when I was like 13 or something.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:49:15 PM CDT

    Well, we did most disturbing yesterday...

    by jonah echo

    so Im inclined to go with greatest geek love and samurai film..

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:49:15 PM CDT

    Well, we did most disturbing yesterday...

    by jonah echo

    so Im inclined to go with greatest geek love and samurai film..

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:49:55 PM CDT

    most disturbing image in a film

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Easy. Shia's Brando-esque entrance on his motorcycle, clad in greaser outfit in Indy IV. The stuff nightmares are made of.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:50:09 PM CDT

    and what is the CoC?

    by kungfuhustler84

    I love discussing stuff with you guys without all the stupid nonsense but I swear I missed that part.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:51:11 PM CDT

    Top five samurai films

    by jonah echo

    1. Harakiri

    2. Ran

    3. Samurai Rebellion

    4. Yojimbo

    5. Seven Samurai

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:56:46 PM CDT

    CoC

    by toadkillerdog

    The Church of Chang. It is a sub-group of TB'ers that were founded based upon the writings and wisdom of 2for2true and the Tremors movies. As well as a love for all Bruce Campbell, Kurt Russel, Tony Jaa - and Flaming Leg kicks. There is more, much more actually, but the founders are Jarv, Abom Pillow, and Kloipy. Pillow has the details or Abom does. Myself, HOD, Danny, Xiphos and perhaps Jonah, and I am sure others, are warciples of the CoC. We smite shitheels with the holy instrument of death. The dreaded HB No 2 pencil!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:56:46 PM CDT

    my first great geek love

    by kungfuhustler84

    was a tie between old school kung fu films and comic books. Lots and lots of comic books. I remember Bruce Lee being my idol for a really long time and then expanding into the likes of Gordon Liu, Sammo Hung, Alexander Fu Sheng, and Lau Kar Leung.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:57:21 PM CDT

    Early geek loves..

    by jonah echo

    My earliest was King Kong, because it was the first movie I really recall seeing(obviously on tv, since Im only 29) and I watched it every chance I got with my dad, requested a King Kong birthday cake, developed a serious addiction to dinosaurs from that movie, and became a film fan from it.

    Star Wars of course, when the third film was released. I was fanatical about it.

    I used to have major geek love for The Incredible Hulk, and Conan, even though the only film I was allowed to watch was Conan the Destroyer.

    Most hardcore example of geek love was for a tv series that aired on weekday morning and afternoons. It was called Tranzor-Z, and it was a japanese robot show with big bots and monsters. Anyone recall it?
    In Japan, it was known as Mazinger Z. When all the kids in kindergarten were Voltron fans, I was all about Tranzor-Z, and no one understood.

    I also was a giant fan of Inframan as a kid, and Godzilla. Particularly Godzilla vs. Megalon.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 2:59:53 PM CDT

    wait a minute...the COC did this stem from

    by jonah echo

    that guy, long ago in the Vacancy TB I think that said he would take No. 2 pencils with him to a theater to stab, as he put it, s**t heels with? Or am I confused?
    That TB was the first place I ever posted to AICN..at least in the last five years.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:01:48 PM CDT

    Godzilla vs Megalon

    by toadkillerdog

    Jet Jaguar!. I saw in in theatre as a kid. It was my favorite Godzilla movie for a long time. Until I saw Destroy all Monsters, and the original Gojira - restored version. I still oove it though.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:03:51 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes, I belive that is the genesis. Pillow can tell you better. I am relatively new to these boards, and to the CoC. Jarv actually wrote the 'Bible' and it is damn good. When he return, he can send you a copy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:04:55 PM CDT

    also had an almost unhealthy obsession with

    by jonah echo

    Clash of the Titans. I might be one of the few kids I know that went to school with a Clash of the Titans lunchbox, and while the other kid's were playing with their high-end transformers, I had a junky Mazinger-Z toy we had stumbled across at a yardsale.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:05:54 PM CDT

    Jonah are we long lost brothers?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Let's see King Kong? Check
    Dinosaurs? Check
    Tranzor-Z (watched with my little brother)? Check.
    Spooky.
    Although 95% of the people on here can profess the same loves.
    I also enjoyed Johnny Quest and Land of the Lost.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:09:04 PM CDT

    I remember 2for2true

    by chittychittygangbang

    I spit coffee on my keyboard when I was reading his posts.
    Of course I was laughing WITH him, not AT him.
    Just want to clarify that, as no one and mean NO ONE wants to experience the wraith of 2for2true and his pencil.
    Shitheels beware.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:10:32 PM CDT

    Also played Marvel Universe rp game

    by chittychittygangbang

    It was like Dungeons and Dragons, but with Marvel Universe characters.
    Fun Times!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:11:32 PM CDT

    The CoC is the Church of Chang

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You gotta honor Tony Jaa, Fred Ward, Kurt Russell and all things cheese. And pencil standings. You gotta stab idiots with the old #2. Lost Jarv and Pillow explain it with more eloquence.Favorite samurai movie is either The Hidden Blade or Seven Samurai.Movies are it for me. I collected comics for a while. I bought toys and miniatures for a while and I'm not even into video games like I once was.Movies are my obsession. Ever since I walked out of Star Wars in May of '77, movies became my world. I don't geek out over anything else now save for the occasional album. It's the only geek love I'll take to the grave.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:12:10 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by toadkillerdog

    Pillow calls him 'an angry God'. Apparently he is none too happy about having warciples invoke his name. I am thinking he is Crom like. I rarely see him and he seems to have mellowed

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:12:57 PM CDT

    Chitty..I dont remember..q

    by jonah echo

    was 2for2true a real madman, like these other jerks, or tongue in cheek? I don't recall exactly.

    Did he get banned? I didnt see any of his posts on the vancancy/theater rant TB?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:14:50 PM CDT

    Toad-- you're relatively new?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I thought you were around forever for some reason. Tell Jarv to add werewolf movies and all things Michael Rooker to the Bible.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:16:28 PM CDT

    Johnny Quest and LOL were

    by jonah echo

    also faves of mine, and I was a huge fan of those Daniel Cohen ghost story and crytozoology books. I had a really, really worn copy of the Encyclopedia of Monsters I carried about just encase I should chance upon a skunk ape rifling through the dumpster by the school.

    But, Chitty, if you actually recognize the following toy line, I guess we are brothers: Rocks and Bugs and Things.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:17:15 PM CDT

    I am a devoted CoC'er - but LibWar is the only "Angry God" I lik

    by toadkillerdog

    On these TB's. Dude kills me - every time. I collect his quotes like a true geek.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:17:36 PM CDT

    Well my favorite film of all time

    by kungfuhustler84

    is Seven Samurai. But if I had to go with a different pick for favorite samurai movie, since that one really owns all others, I would have to go with either Sword of Doom or Takeshi Kitano's remake of Zatoichi the Blind Swordsman. The costume designs alone in that movie are incredible.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:18:07 PM CDT

    I don't remember what happened to him

    by chittychittygangbang

    Of course he floats through our universe at his own whims, caring not a whit about us mere mortals.
    In D&D what was above demi-god?
    I put him above Cthulhu as far as power and wisdom.
    I think he was ranting about idiots in the movie theaters. I don't remember him being a troll or anything.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:19:57 PM CDT

    pillow has some great 2for2true TB's saved

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    He gave me a bunch to read when he and I first started speaking after he rehabilitated when I went after him like a rabid attack dog and he said, "Dude....calm down....lets just talk about movie." Awwwww that fucker Pillow. He is so fucking soothing something. He ruined me forever. Now I'm just a relaxed old man. Aawwwww......the good old days.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:20:46 PM CDT

    Danny - My first post was about a year and half ago

    by toadkillerdog

    But I only posted once or twice. Then I stayed off the boards - but lurked, for close to a year. I think it was a James Bond board that really brought me out.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:22:14 PM CDT

    Man, those toys aren't ringing a bell

    by chittychittygangbang

    My brother had some toys that I'm trying to remember (he's around your age) but those aren't ringing a bell.
    Maybe we're just cousins then...

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:22:46 PM CDT

    was anyone here around for that TB on movie theaters?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    HOD-- I think you were. It was about those fancy theaters with waiters and leather chairs and shit. I dunno why I just though of that TB. There was a lot of funny stories in there about crazy theater experiences. I remember one guy said he went to some ghetto theater in L.A. somewhere and took a date to see House Party. It was all filled with black folk who got up and just start dancing in the aisles like crazy throughout most of the film. Hilarious.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:22:49 PM CDT

    Other good samurai stuff..

    by jonah echo

    The Hidden Blade and Twilight Samurai, Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman, Sword of Doom, Throne of Blood, and Heaven and Earth.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:24:20 PM CDT

    And not even any particular genre either

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm one of these guys who anticipates a new Hugh Grant romcom as much as I do The Dark Knight.As a kid I geeked out hardcore about a few things. First was Godzilla and Ultraman. Then came Star Blazers, which I'll admit is still in the back of my geek psyche as I keep going back to a mental storyboard for a live action Star Blazers trilogy I'd give ten years of my life to write for a studio. And I obsessed about dinosaurs a good decade before Jurassic Park.Now I just obsess about movies. Any genre. Period.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:25:00 PM CDT

    Danny...

    by jonah echo

    I was just reading that TB again...and Danny, here in Baltimore, at the Owings Mill Theater, we went to see Dreamgirls and people were up and dancing in the aisles and singing, and swaying into other people's seat space.

    The Owings Mill Theater is off the hizzy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:26:06 PM CDT

    the origin of what we're doing with TB's....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    ....such as this one (awesome civil geekdom discussion) can be traced back to that Rambo TB a few months ago right Hawaiian? Remember you, myself, and Pillow spoke of action films for days. Others came in and out, but the three of us kept it going pretty steady. That was the first time I didnt jump TB to TB everyday.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:26:41 PM CDT

    Nothing like a good fight back in the day

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remember seeing some truly horrific shit thrown at each other in such classic talkbacks as Transformers, Cloverfield and anything Lucas.
    I should have saved some of that stuff to read later as people were screaming at each other to die.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:27:24 PM CDT

    Jonah Echo

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Were you in that TB?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:29:07 PM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You're in the CoC now as well right? Okay good.
    How long have you been posting? Cloverfield is when I first started using this name. Before that I got banned with a few others, but I never really engaged in conversation-- just posted random crazy shit.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:29:10 PM CDT

    in fact..it's so off the hizzy..that

    by jonah echo

    it made the news:

    Reason behind fatal shooting elusive

    The Baltimore Sun ^ | June 16, 2006 | Nick Shields and Josh Mitchel

    Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:23:34 AM by maica

    Paul Schrum wanted to see X-Men: The Last Stand, but his wife wasn't interested in the film. So on Thursday evening -- which is her night for mah-jongg with friends -- he hugged her, kissed her on the cheek, and headed off to a multiplex up the road in Owings Mills.

    When hours passed without his return, Rona Schrum went looking for her husband. It was after one in the morning when she pulled into the movie theater parking lot and saw his car -- and many police officers.





    In what police described as a random attack, Paul Schrum, a 62-year-old medical supplies salesman from Pikesville, was shot dead while watching a movie at Loews Valley Center 9 in Owings Mills. About 20 minutes into the film, police said, the gunman stood, told everyone to get on the floor and fired four shots.

    The man then walked to the lobby, placed a handgun containing one unspent round on a counter and told theater management that he had shot someone. He waited for police to arrive.

    The suspect is a 24-year-old man, a 2000 graduate of Mount Hebron High School in Howard County and a 2005 graduate of Loyola College, where he majored in biology. Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar's family home is a house valued at more than $1 million in one of Baltimore County's most affluent neighborhoods.


    She returned home shortly before 11:30 p.m. to find her husband's car missing. Around 1:30 a.m. she drove to the theater. She spotted her husband's Chevrolet Malibu, parked beside it and approached a police officer.

    "This is my husband's car. He went to the movies and never came home," she says she told the officer.

    The reply, she said, was: "You must be Mrs. Schrum."

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:31:35 PM CDT

    The first post here was July, 21

    by toadkillerdog

    Ten days ago gents. Take a bow. Ok, we are not the Lost TB, but then again, whop is? However, we have done far more than just geek out over a TV show. I have only watched one ep of Lost, so I can not critcize it in any way.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:32:29 PM CDT

    Went to Anaconda...

    by chittychittygangbang

    Figured it would be just regular geeks like me for the creature feature.
    Wrong.
    I underestimated the drawing power of Ice Cube and JLo's ass.
    Needless to say, me and I buddy of mine were more entertained by the screaming and jumping up and down than the movie.
    When it would show that snake, you couldn't hear yourself think as the entire crowd screamed (not hollered, screamed).

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:32:31 PM CDT

    Jonah

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You live in a great neighborhood my friend.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:35:19 PM CDT

    these theater experiences sound so fun....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I gotta move to the east or the south.... L.A. crowds are fucking dull.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:36:00 PM CDT

    That movie theater TB

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was the article Merrick (???) posted about the luxury chain they're expanding and that was a funny one indeed. Your story about the hand jobs out back was hilarious.For a few years I posted as "Corporate Stooge" and generally only one post per TB.For that NASA thread I created HOD just so I could go after Danny. And I've been a regular since. That was what, 6 months ago?I feel bad because I missed a lot of the classic TBs people talk about simply because I didn't read AICN every day.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:40:42 PM CDT

    oh crap

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    MoM just reared his serpent head in the Mummy 3/Dupont TB.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:42:48 PM CDT

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    No way....did you really create HOD to attack me? Fuck man.....for some reason I thought you had already been around for awhile at that point as HOD. I think that was like 5 months ago.....I started posting as DGDB in December.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:43:09 PM CDT

    The alltime best TB that I read and did not particpate in

    by toadkillerdog

    Was the Horse Fucking thread - with Equinas. I am certain that dude is still around. He must have just created that handle for that TB alone. The greatest thread I was ever in, that I particpated, was the Jimmy Carter man from Plains throwdown.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:43:15 PM CDT

    kungfuhustler84

    by hobocode

    That scene in SPR still gives me nightmares.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:43:25 PM CDT

    Danny, thankfully I live nowhere near

    by jonah echo

    that neighborhood. That theater is about 35minutes from me, but I have good stories. Somehow my posts were missing from the theater TB, so Ill stare some with you when I come back. Remember Fear Itself.

    And new topic, most memorable theater visits.

    Ill leave you with 3 words fro one of mine. Baby. Diaper. Full.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:46:26 PM CDT

    My first post was in the 2012 talkback

    by chittychittygangbang

    I've been reading the site for years and the talkbacks were my favorite part.
    So finally I decided to join in.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:46:29 PM CDT

    Horse Fucking

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That shit is weird man....very weird. People have strong bonds with those horses. And I gotta say, some of them do have seductively long eye-lashes.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:48:04 PM CDT

    TOAD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I cant find the Equus TB.....know what I should be searching for?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:48:09 PM CDT

    If you guys want to know who I really am

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Eight years ago I created a social awareness site. I stuck with it every week for 5 years but when my daughter was born I didn't have time and have ignored it since. In fact, the last site update was a few weeks after she was born.I haven't visited it since then either and yet I keep paying to renew the domain.Oddly, I just went there now and Firefox is telling me it could be a malicious site, which it's not as the only things running on it are Flash and Javascript.If you go to PatLand and check out my Beef of the Week archive, you'll see what an angry angry man I was a few years ago.I should probably redesign the site and start posting again.Anyway, here's the address, enter at your own risk: www.grumpymen.com

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:49:57 PM CDT

    well chitty.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Your moniker rivals mine. My three favorites of all time are yours, NIPPLES OF GOD (banned), and KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL FUCK.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:52:31 PM CDT

    Yes toad I remember the Horse TB

    by chittychittygangbang

    I laughed so damn hard in that talkback I cried.
    Now I don't know if this guy was serious or not, but he said something about some poeple love the horses and feel a bond or something like that.
    So sure enough a group of people jumped on him and rode him (no pun intended) until he said he had tried it.
    Like I said, I don't know if this guy was serious or not, but I laughed so hard I had to quit reading it for awhile.
    You can imagine when he put the blood in the water the frenzy he whipped the sharks into. They dogged his ass good and made one of the all-time classic talkbacks.
    You could print that talkback and make the Times bestseller list.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:53:51 PM CDT

    The Horse TB

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What is the original topic TB? I gotta read this.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:55:46 PM CDT

    TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What happened to that guy? His posts are hilarious....he'll jump in a random TB like say for INDY IV and always include his moniker in the post. "INDY IV BETTER BE GOOD, OR ELSE IT WILL BE TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION."

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:56:00 PM CDT

    That Jimmy Carter TB

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Was epic. I think I might have gone wild in that one too.But yes, I created HOD just to tell Danny to kill himself and then got drawn in by other posters and I haven't been the same since.In a way I'm sort of glad I didn't post when I came to the site all those years because I would have had a reputation as a jerkoff due to my anger issues.Nothing like a daughter to calm a guy down.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:58:22 PM CDT

    Favorite monikers Danny

    by chittychittygangbang

    Gotta admit I remembered yours from the first day I read it back when. I chuckled and thought 'This guys either nuts or has my sense of humor.'
    Some of my alltime favorites are as follows:
    Chunky Brewster
    Triceratops on Fire
    Fillcuntupwithspermshitblood
    There are too many more to think of right now. But I get a chuckle from most of them.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:58:43 PM CDT

    Here it is Danny

    by toadkillerdog

    http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/33985

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  • Jul 31, 2008 3:59:39 PM CDT

    toadkillerdog -- May Jim Caviezel bless you

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 4:01:41 PM CDT

    My favorite handle is

    by toadkillerdog

    Total Fucking Destruction. Just lays me out.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:02:29 PM CDT

    Fillcuntupwithspermshitblood

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    If there was a guy with the name Fillcuntupwithspermshitblood, why the fuck would anyone (like that fucker Hobocode) make an issue out of my name?! My name is like Tinkerbell compared to that one. Jesus. What about I KICK TITS.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:03:29 PM CDT

    Enjoy - if that is the word!

    by toadkillerdog

    BSB went apeshit in that one.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:07:32 PM CDT

    There was one line in there about horse rape - i kid you not

    by toadkillerdog

    It said " Neigh means Neigh"

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:08:37 PM CDT

    No kidding HOD

    by chittychittygangbang

    I just had a daughter and I have calmed down a lot here at work.
    Jesus I was mean.
    Now I just chill out and relax.
    Of course now I HAVE to work this shithole job as I have a parental responsibility and sometimes things are so bad here that....(clothes ripping, skin turning green...)

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:09:09 PM CDT

    I'm reading the horse fucking TB.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    holy shit I'm already laughing....I'm turning red. I shall return with highlights.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:13:09 PM CDT

    I'm crying Toad

    by chittychittygangbang

    I forgot about that one. Jesus my contacts are about to fall out of my eyes.
    Can you imagine the theme from Mortal Kombat playing and the barn swinging open to reveal the horny guy about to try and manhandle a horse.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:15:24 PM CDT

    Damn, I can not read that at work. I am laughing too hard

    by toadkillerdog

    Equinas, really comes across as sincere, and he is eloquent in his defense of the indefensible, which makes it even funnier!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:20:42 PM CDT

    I still remember the first talkback I ever saw

    by kungfuhustler84

    Harry's review of Land of the Dead. A bunch of guys were arguing for HOURS about which kinds of zombies were scarier, the kind that ran fast, or the kind that just stumbled along. It was one of the most hilarious things I had ever seen at that point.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:40:09 PM CDT

    Damn, I've over reading the Horse TB

    by chittychittygangbang

    I snorted I laughed so hard. BSB was cracking me up.
    Some guy said he was going to start up eanimalharmony.com and have 25 levels.
    Good gosh that is a classic TB.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:42:08 PM CDT

    Kungfu, I remember that TB

    by chittychittygangbang

    I forgot about that argument. People were going after each other about the speed of an undead person.
    I did chuckle at that one.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 4:52:04 PM CDT

    Equinas summary

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    When I started this I thought it was hilarious, about half way through I started getting a little queasy....oh well. Here is the summary for anyone interested. Weirdest TB ever...you guys were right.


    THE WORDS OF Equinas!!

    "Well, Vern - you could say I've done a lot of "research", but it wasn't for report-writing purposes. ;) I haven't seen the movie yet; I was hoping it would be released on DVD and now that it is, I'll be ordering ASAP."

    "The very act you describe, "taking advantage of someone/thing/whatever who doesn't have the mental reasoning capacity to judge right from wrong" is done every single day by breeding farms. The simple differences is they do it for profit, not pleasure. Which is worse? You consider sex the "sickening violation of someone's body", but you don't feel the same about the slaughterhouse? The argument is self-defeating. Our society allows the humane use of animals for food and profit, but not for pleasure? There's no logical justification for such a distinction except the horrified shrieks of the sexually "normal"."

    "New diseases? Please, stop talking out your ass, do your research on zoonotic diseases, and get back to me. I can assure you that horse sex is a lot safer than human sex. Try not to embarrass yourself like this in the future. TomBodet: Actually, some of my friends would enjoy the treatment you're talking about. The outrage is in your minds, people, not in logic. Maybe learn something about the subject before you start ranting and raving. I recommend sexual abuse authority Dr. Hani Miletski's book "Understanding Bestiality and Zoophilia", or the 2001 study by the University of Indiana College of Sociology. There IS a difference between people who tie down animals and rape them, and those who have loving and sexual relationships with well-cared-for-animals."


    And the reactions from the TB'ers.....
    "If I ever come across some sick ass hole like you fucking a dog, cat,goat,horse or anything else in the animal kingdom your going to live the next few moments of your horse fucking life in misery. Thats a promise."
    "So what you're saying is that if we're gonna go ahead and kill them anyway, we might as well fuck them first?"
    "For the record, I don’t fuck animals, although if Ariel from the little mermaid was real and I had a chance, I guess I'd be breaking the whole don’t fuck animal and don’t fuck kids law in one go..."
    "IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL TO FUCK AN ACURA NSX? Because that car gives me a boner every time I see it."

    "Equinas was talking about making sweet love to an animal he cares for. Is that wrong? Likely. But his detractors have brought up torturing him, having him violently raped, branded, shipped off to an island, and shot in the back of the head. Dear God in heaven, see what you've done? You've driven me off to the Horsefuckers side. This is how revolutions begin people. Someone find me a pretty little mare with a good disposition... I don't want to be on the side of the "norms" any longer. I'm sure I can learn to love it, over time. My understanding is that horse pussy tastes a great deal like regular old human pussy. You know, like fish."

    "I'M GOING TO CREATE eANIMALHARMONY.COM.....
    It'll match zoophiles and farm animals on 25 levels of compatibility. I'll make millions!!"

    "What about fucking a vegetable? Women do get off on cucumbers and bananas. Do we draw the line at sentient beings? Can someone please cite me a university study on the moral implications of relations with root vegetables and fruits?"

    "I imagine getting ass-fucked with an ear of corn
    could be quite pleasurable, each kernel a ridge of sexual delight. If we can turn the horse-fuckers on to corn, we can put an end to this insanity."

    "Yeah...I suppose "Mr. Hands" would tell us that the horse used a charming pick-up line and bought him a drink before taking him back to his place."

    "Between peak oil production, global warming and horse fuckers rationalizing their behavior, the world is indeed headed towards an apocalypse. "

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:22:55 PM CDT

    HORSE FUCKING KILLED THIS TB-- NOOOOOOOO!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Damn you Equinas!!! DAMN YOU!!!!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:24:01 PM CDT

    was there really an hour with no post?!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 5:31:01 PM CDT

    The Foul King! the slow dad from the host is also in that

    by ironic_name

    as is go hyung ko [i think her name is] , the youngest daughter in the quiet family.. which also stars the deadbeat dad from the host, happiness of the kitukaris is a remake of the quiet family, only much, much better.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:32:34 PM CDT

    *the quiet family is the one thats much, much better

    by ironic_name

    I'm sleepy. but see the quiet family, the funniest movie ever.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:35:57 PM CDT

    Danny I'm glad you got to see that TB

    by chittychittygangbang

    One of the funniest things ever to grace this site.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:37:20 PM CDT

    ya know....that guy really did love his horse.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 5:39:53 PM CDT

    I created a

    by series7

    A Name a couple years back, it was Godzilla something. Posted a few times, I think the first thing was for George Lucas saying that cinemas had to throw away posters for Episode 1 when they were done with them and how they weren't allowed to give them out. And I thought what a dick thing to do. And I may have posted like 10 times since last year, for some reason I just never got into the whole TB thing, it always just felt like a random comment thing. But I was so bored last summer I decided to get into it, and now its like an everyday thing I have to do. Even if its some stupid post on a nothing thread. I'm not sure if its helped me though, because before my friends were like OK we get it you know movies. Now I just talk about movies like I'm talking to fellow TB'ers and people are like, what the fuck are you even talking about? But whatever most people I know only know very little about movies.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:40:06 PM CDT

    I'll give him credit, he defended his point rationally

    by chittychittygangbang

    But not matter how clear and concise he was, someone would just come back and say "Horse Fucker!"
    Comedy gold!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:42:43 PM CDT

    Series, same here

    by chittychittygangbang

    My wife says 'you going to talk to your computer friends?'
    Little does she know that this is the only place I can discuss movies and such at this level.
    Usually I talk to people that think Michael Bay has a unique vision. Sigh...

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:46:02 PM CDT

    Series7

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I totally get what you're saying. I too drop TB type lingo into conversations with personal friends and they look at me weird. Sometimes I say shit that is a bit too harsh for real world talk like, "Aaaawww fuck so and so director, his film bla bla is a fucking abortion and he needs to eat aids." And my friends give me an odd look like....where the fuck did that come from? And I realize those sort of outbursts are more from my TB persona. Hehehehe. All my friends like movies......almost anyone likes movies....but we can't discuss the shit for hours on end like I do here.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:48:05 PM CDT

    when does Harry change the title of this TB..

    by rupee88

    ...to I love Uwe Boll?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:49:13 PM CDT

    ChittyChittyGangBang

    by series7

    Yeah man, after hearing how one of my co wokers responded to movies I told him I could guess his top ten. I got like 6 right. I missed Brown Sugar (his only random ass pick) and I said National Treasure and he had Gone in 60 Seconds. I don't remember the other ones I missed but still 6 out of ten ain't bad.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:50:29 PM CDT

    GONE IN 60 SECONDS?!! FUCK ME!! TERRIBLE!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 5:51:11 PM CDT

    alright peace playas.....I'm outta here.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jul 31, 2008 5:54:27 PM CDT

    Oh yeah, I know people that list their favorites

    by chittychittygangbang

    With stuff like National Treasure, Armegeddon, stuff like that.
    If that is their favorites, then that is fine. It's their opinion and they are entitled to it.
    But it's not my cup of tea and would rather discuss movies with people that have similiar likes and dislikes.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:56:09 PM CDT

    off to see X-Files 2.

    by jonah echo

    See ya back here for Fear Itself. remember 10

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:57:00 PM CDT

    Sweet

    by series7

    A law and order Episode with Miguel Furrer in it.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 5:59:45 PM CDT

    EQUINAS RETURNS!

    by mullah omar

    Or maybe EQUINAS RISING, I forget if it's a prequel or a sequel.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:01:59 PM CDT

    Yeah

    by series7

    I don't mind people that like those movies, shit I like them two. They are usually cooler about seeing movies then movie snobs. People who like dumb movies will usually sit through some weird art film with you every now and then. While people who think they know movies (because they saw No Country in theaters) act like they are above all movies that EW or the Oscars haven't taken a huge interest in.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 6:25:41 PM CDT

    Neigh means Neigh

    by toadkillerdog

    Damn! I'm still cracking over that line.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:17:18 PM CDT

    Neigh means Neigh

    by chittychittygangbang

    This belongs in the talkback Hall of Fame.
    Instant Classic!

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:50:51 PM CDT

    Top 3 Werewolf Movies

    by ebolarama

    1) Dog Soldiers
    2) Ginger Snaps
    3) Brotherhood of the Wold

    Oddly enough, none of them are American.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:51:20 PM CDT

    Creepiest Movie

    by ebolarama

    Ghoulies 2....

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  • Jul 31, 2008 7:57:33 PM CDT

    Wolf... not Wold

    by ebolarama

  • Jul 31, 2008 8:22:07 PM CDT

    holy moly this is a big TB

    by cyrent

    just felt I should contribute, do my share, ya know?

    drugs are bad mmmmmmk?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:01:55 PM CDT

    Nice Location for Wendigo

    by chittychittygangbang

    Love those mountians. See how they add to feeling of being trapped?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:03:02 PM CDT

    Is that the girl from inside herman's head?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Looks like her

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:06:05 PM CDT

    Weird reading a script

    by chittychittygangbang

    Then seeing it mixed with editing, filming visuals and decent acting.
    This is already the best episode yet.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:15:06 PM CDT

    Holy shit that was creepy

    by chittychittygangbang

    Looking up and seeing that looking out a window at you.
    Was that a horse he killed?

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:20:52 PM CDT

    Shit i just jumped

    by chittychittygangbang

    That looked like me waking up in the morning.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:28:51 PM CDT

    Jesus this is creepy

    by chittychittygangbang

    I'm in the house by myself too.
    (turning on all the lights...)

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:30:41 PM CDT

    Did I mention this was creepy?

    by chittychittygangbang

    Must. stop. overusing. word. creepy.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:32:34 PM CDT

    I'm hopeing

    by series7

    My dvr doesn't fuck and delete Fear right after it records it.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:42:28 PM CDT

    So far, I rank this by far the best

    by chittychittygangbang

    The first one had the same vibe, but this one turns that up several notches.
    Although that girl in the first one had amazing bod. Even through the old dress.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 9:45:17 PM CDT

    Do you guys know Mummy 3 opens 8-8-08

    by chittychittygangbang

    Geez, i didn't think you ram a movie further down my throat than The Dark Night.
    I half expect Fraser to show up at my house later tonight, bring me a case of Mummy 3 beer and let me know that Mummy 3 opens this weekend.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:21:08 PM CDT

    I bet

    by series7

    Mummy doesn't do as good at Journey. Anyone else? Like I didn't expect the reviews to be good, but they are fucking horrible. And Rob Cohn has made one good movie. I feel asleep during XXX in the movie cinema when I saw it, the coolest part were the credits.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:26:24 PM CDT

    Chitty

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You need to get to bed. You're loopy, my man. I'm off to bed myself. Will discuss the Wendigo in the morning.Fraser left my place about an hour ago. The Mummy 3 honey ale wasn't bad.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:36:04 PM CDT

    Sorry, Fraser just arrived

    by chittychittygangbang

    Brought TWO cases of Mummy 3 pale ale (it's not as good as Sierra Neveda) and a Yeti.
    Turns out the extra case is for the Yeti. It is already eating the dry cat food.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:36:22 PM CDT

    Drew, just watched Skin and Bones..some thoughts

    by jonah echo

    First, this is easily the best episode of Fear Itself thus far. The only one that has images and ideas that stick with you. If I had not read your script, I would have accused you of pounding home the "uncle is the father" theme, but it was actually very subtle in the script.

    As far as the directing, Fessenden get's some creepy shots there, the roving camera looking at all the trophy heads and the darkened interior of the cabin, the misty mountains, the scene of Grady climbing down in the barn, behind the boys. I love that dark exterior of the red barn. That barn set looked very similar, and was shot very similar to the barn in The Roost(a low budget flick that Fessenden helped produce I think, or at least had a small role in). All done well. Favorite shot was the one of Grady looking out the window at Eddie Bear after the mare's death.

    Doug Jones is awesome! He delivers one of the great t.v. movie monsters. We were talking bout t.v. monsters, like Don't Be Afraid of the Dark, etc. and this one stands up there with Savini's creature from Inside the Closet, and the zuni doll and someof the Outer Limits better creatures.I hope this thing gets airplay again. It's a shame it's not more of a stand alone piece(meaning that it won't just be shown as a little short film, outside the F I series. I argue that this and Battleground from Nightmares and Dreamscapes should be set free to be shown seperately whenever they can. Catching stuff like this randomly, at Halloween would be a great treat. I can see kids seeing this and freaking over it in the same way we still recall the dark imagery of those old t.v. flicks.

    Also, Mori, are you familiar with Alvin Schwartz, the author and illustrator of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. It was a series of books when I was growing up that told classic folk tales, ghost stories and urban legends, with Schwartz's macabre sketches. His people always had distorted heads, sunken eyes, skeleton grins. His collection was the first place I ever encountered a Wendigo story. But the thing that truly struck me is Doug Jones' Grady looks like a Schwartz sketch come to disturbing life. My wife even commented on the fact too. Was this at all intentional? Or is this just a great coincidence on my part? Anyways, if you don't know Schwartz, check the drawings. Cool.


    All in all, I really liked it, and think it's the best of the three pieces you and Scott have done, but I think I liked your take on Wendigo as a specific demon who posesses the body more than what they did here. I did find the concept of the rage allowing the creature access, and the underlying feelings Grady had about his wife and Rowdy giving the wendigo purpose, and vice versa, very cool. But I truly missed that scene where the Wendigo recognizes Eddie Bear from his childhood.

    How did you feel about these changes Drew?

    Terrific work, and I hope to keep seeing good creepy stuff being churned out from the McWeeney/Swann collaboration.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:39:31 PM CDT

    I swear I'm not drinking

    by chittychittygangbang

    I had to keep teeny while wife had meeting.
    Have to say was impressed by Skin and Bones until the end.
    Youngest kid said no to leaving because they couldn't dive uncle's truck.
    Sort of lost me there, but this is still the best of the Fear Itself episodes so far.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:51:09 PM CDT

    HOD is right, I'm gone to bed

    by chittychittygangbang

    I didn't hsve much sleep last night will catch tonight and in morning.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 10:51:52 PM CDT

    Chitty..

    by jonah echo

    if you recall the script, younger boy was learning disabled, and this as his reason for saying that-he got stuck on a specific rule, probably because his life is largely ruled by following orders and not making decisions in order to keep him safe.

    HOWEVER, of the minor blunders in this ep, it was the handling of that younger son that was the most obvious. You couldnt really tell he was mentally challenged(even though drew and scott make it plain the script) and so he just comes off as a pretty stupid kid.

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  • Jul 31, 2008 11:01:12 PM CDT

    Correction about Schwartz's illustrations..

    by jonah echo

    Schwartz was also an illustrator BUT the drawings for the Scary Stories books were by Stephen Gammell. That's the guy whose work I was referencing. Gammell. Schwartz only wrote the books.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 12:51:49 AM CDT

    God I'm trying to go to bed

    by series7

    But Brendon Frazer won't LEAVE! He brought the box set of the first two moneys trying to get me pumped for the new one. He's all like, "It's good? HAVEN'T YOU SEEN MY MOVIES!" And then he gave me a free pass to Journey to the Center of the Earth as long as I paid to see the Mummy 3. Overall he is being fairly aggressive, and I am getting a little worried because he seems really strung out and I may have to call the cops soon.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 12:54:05 AM CDT

    Anyways

    by series7

    I'm watching Reality Bites Back on the Central for Comedy, and this episode is pretty damn funny. Funniest new live action show they've had for some time now. Who knew Micheal Ian Black was even funny?

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  • Aug 01, 2008 3:16:27 AM CDT

    Okay HOD

    by kungfuhustler84

    I emailed you my address and a couple of suggestions, but I have a whole list so get back to me soon and we can talk about it. And an idea for a question for everybody tomorrow: What is your favorite so-bad-it's-good movie? Mine is Ricky O without a doubt. The girl jumping off the building still cracks me up after seeing it a good ten times.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 6:30:17 AM CDT

    horses are hung like chuck norris, chuck is hung like OLEG!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug 01, 2008 7:12:51 AM CDT

    Morning everyone

    by hawaiian organ donor

    So the best things I can say about the Skin and Bones episode was the script itself and Doug Jones. I think the director did a poor job of adapting the script and other than Jones and possibly the uncle, it was horribly miscast. And I wasn't too happy with the editing either. I'm not sure how Drew feels about how the script was handled but if it was me, I'd be pissed. That script deserved a much better crew behind it.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:27:06 AM CDT

    since the knowledge must be spread....

    by just pillow talk

    Our initial sighting of our one and only savior...http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/35294#comment_1848549Do you feel it as you read those words? It is the awakening in your very soul. Everything, and I mean everything, launches off of that discovery. It's like we discovered how life was formed in the universe...2for2true.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:29:06 AM CDT

    Michael Clayton...

    by just pillow talk

    Liked it, started off a bit slow for me but the last half of the movie was money for me. Just a solid movie.I love George's speech to the Ice Queen chick...I'm not the guy you kill, I'm the guy you buy!

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:30:21 AM CDT

    Morning

    by therewolf

    And look what I've been missing: favourite SPFX, decapitations and horse fucking - "...each kernal a ridge of sexual delight." Now I've got to wipe a spray of 7-Up off my monitor at work. Thanks guys, 'preciate it.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:32:24 AM CDT

    Pillow!

    by toadkillerdog

    You were missed in yesterday's TB. The CoC was front and center for a while. We needed your input.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:42:26 AM CDT

    Tracking numbers for you guys

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Jonah - 967530722954 and it's in Baltimore on FedEx truck for delivery.Series - 967530722943 and it's in Charleston on truck for delivery.Pillow - 967530722965 and it's at the local FedEx sort facility in Stratford.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 7:58:32 AM CDT

    Damn...

    by docpazuzu

    ...Looks like I missed out on an awesome talkback with all of my favorite topics: classic talkbacks and trash movies.

    I've only skimmed through it as its size is too daunting for me in my current inebriated state, but there is some good shit here -- not least of all the Zoo TB. A true classic and almost as funny as the Vern vs the Chaos DVD TB (may its deleted parts rest in peace).

    Good to see so many of you fine upstanding talkbackers here too, like the CoC:ers among others.

    I shall endeavor to be more diligent next time and get with the program before the TB becomes too unwieldy.

    And yes, someone SHOULD put together some of the classic talkbacks in one hefty tome (I'm looking at YOU, Jarv!) for casual perusal. There could be different chapters, such as "political flame wars"(Jimmy Carter and/or the WTC talkbacks), "plant killing" (such as the AvP:R smackdown), "loony geek arguments" (Real dragons talk! Zombies can't run!) and so forth. Hell, create a PDF book or something.

    Make it happen!

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:05:04 AM CDT

    Our bad, DocP

    by hawaiian organ donor

    We should have sent out word that we were discussing all sorts of random stuff in here.I hope it's later/earlier in the day where you are because drunk at 9 AM might be cause for alarm, buddy.I gotta say, you type better drunk than I do sober!

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:15:05 AM CDT

    What's REALLY creepy about Equinas...

    by docpazuzu

    ...is that the Zoo TB marks his one and only appearance as far as I know, which leaves only two possibilities:

    1) He's been lurking forever and decided to sign up because finally AICN was writing about a subject he loves. (not likely)

    2) That he signed up with a new username so that his usual AICN identity would remain unsullied by his peccadilloes, which means he may be ANYONE in talkback...

    I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for Equinas actually being BraneRobot.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:17:51 AM CDT

    HOD

    by docpazuzu

    It's actually 3:15 PM here, so it ain't that bad. Besides, I'm on vacation and alone at home until my wife and boy return on the 11th.

    Oh yes -- it's boozin', computer gamin', bad movie Heaven for another week or so.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:19:36 AM CDT

    As for my typing...

    by docpazuzu

    ...wait another couple of hours or so.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:21:56 AM CDT

    DocP

    by toadkillerdog

    Great to see you back. We are only missing Jarv and Abom now. This is a great TB. The trolls have either kept away, been chased away or have been banned (see rolling thunder nee eggsalad). Just good old fashioned movie loving talk and assorted goodies.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:28:27 AM CDT

    Aww, rat doody! Fred missed great TB - again

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    It not Fred's fault. Fred's boss been cracking down on ol' Fred. Fred read the Horny Horse Humper thread - wow!

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:33:33 AM CDT

    TDK

    by docpazuzu

    Likewise. As for Jarv, I think he's off work most of August and isn't online at home so we may not see him for a while.

    By the way, M-O-M is currently venting spleen in the DuPont Mummy TB. He's basically saying everything he WANTS to say about trash movies in talkbacks like this one but is afraid to for fear of the CoC.

    Heh.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:41:40 AM CDT

    Jonah about Skin and Bones

    by chittychittygangbang

    I remembered the son having a learning disability in the script, but it wasn't really made clear in the episode, so I didn't know if they changed it.
    It seems like they changed the part where the Wendigo recognizes Eddie Bear, so I figured they left it out for editing reasons to focus more on the creature.
    It sort of threw me off for a sec when he said that at the end.
    Don't get me wrong, it was by far my favorite episode of Fear Itself and could actually use another episode to explore Eddie Bear's first encounter back on the reservation.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:43:25 AM CDT

    Nice!

    by mr. nice gaius

    So funny to see the Zoo-Vern-Equinas TB come up again. Well done, fellas. I think that thread may be the epitome of all that is crazed, demented, and hysterical about AICN Talkback. I've been in some doozy threads over the years but that one is quite memorable...for a lot of reasons!You may be interested to know that when that TB was going down, I made sure to link it under the "Famous & Infamous Moments from Ain't It Cool News History" thread in The Zone. So, it is saved and archived for all posterity.

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  • Aug 01, 2008 8:46:29 AM CDT

    HOD you were right

    by chittychittygangbang

    I was a little loopy last night. Felt a little lightheaded and sure enough, took my temp and I was running a fever!
    Not good with teeny in the house.
    So I drank some juice and took Tylenol. Still feel weird, but will soldier on.
    T