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Wanna See Some Of Bill Sienkiewicz's Art He Did For DARK KNIGHT?!?!?
Hey folks, Harry here... With Comic Con coming up - I just figured that you'd dig something like this. You see, I've been a fan of Bill Sienkiewicz's artwork ever since he did an astonishing JOKER in my father's convention sketchbook. It's fairly intense. Wildly sardonic - and from that sketch I've followed Bill's work through every title he's touched. And I dream of the day I see Warlock translated to screen. But Bill decided he wanted to share some of his astonishing artwork which was done for the production as well as the promotion of DARK KNIGHT - the move all of you paid to see 3 times this weekend apparently. Now - if you're going to Comic Con - you can check out Bill's originals at Booth #2419! And if you do - you're one lucky bastard, Bill's originals are a thing of exquisite beauty! If you want to see more of Sienkiewicz's work go to BillSienkiewiczArt.Com - Thanks goes to Bill and Sal for Debuting this art on AICN!
For some curious reason - Warners has asked that these be removed - enjoy them at Comic Con where you'll see the originals!
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I hope The Dark Knight haters find their way into this talkback. All two of them.
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for using Sienkewicz. Electra, Stray Toasters, Numbers...
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maybe im crazy but i just saw tdk again and has anyone else noticed a illustrated penguin on the burnign firetruck that blocks the caravan?
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He really nailed the design, wish I could illustrate like that :(
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that it's too bad comic fans these days are ignorant of artists like Sienkewicz, McKean and Williams, as fan faves like Ash Wood and Templesmith and all (while really good) are still in the shadow of these guys. No offence to the new guard, but these guys are absolute giants and it makes me a bit cranky that hardly anyone knows them at the moment. Oh and I meant Big Numbers, in case that was unclear. Too bad it fell over. Who knows how great Alan Moore and Bill could've been on that?!
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all the batman stuff is original art, and all the joker stuff is traced (at least in form, position, and face) from the existing and limited joker promo shots.too bad it would have ben nice to see some original joker drawings too.
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Ledger's walk away from the hospital is priceless.
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got paid. I wonder which he prefers to draw, the comic book Batman or the film Batman? I'll bet I know which money he prefers.
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that's all that needs to be said.... agree?
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now that Nolan left the Joker alive, he has some serious shoes to fill and if he can't then he dropped the ball for not killing him off (even if it was a choice made after Heath died in post-production)
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It did RULE, agreed. But the last 15 min left some big ??? for the next film(s). First of all is Dent dead (personally I think not)... U?
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greatest comics artist of all time. Yeah, I mean it.
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Nolan will recast Joker IF he does a third film, Ledger has made that perfomance Iconic. He would have to be as stupid as Sam Hamm to kill the Joker off again. This movie deserves at least 5-6 Oscars nods, for sure. It's superb.
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not everybody saw it twice this weekend. Asshole.
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for posting these kick ass sketches! f-ing love em!
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not sure what you mean buddy, just saw it once at 1:20pm today in Hollywood. These are just my first time viewing thought, among others. Still loved it though... a solid A-.
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If you don't want Dark Knight spoilers, don't read the AICN talkback to a story about the movie...
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show some consideration and include a spoiler warning. I don't know, I guess we see what your natural inclination is. And the story is about the Sienkiewicz art work, not the ending of the "most anticipated film of the summer."
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If you're reading these talkbacks now and haven't seen the film and are pissed off about about reading spoilers... GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!!! You should have seen it by now like the rest of America or you should stay off the fucking internet until you do FUCKHEAD!!!
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Hopefully Sienkiewicz was duly compensated, but keep in mind a little fact: often licensing art (like this) originates NOT out of the movie company itself (in this case Warner Bros), but is instead actually commissioned and booked through the publisher (in this case DC Comics), which allows a lower rate to be paid. In other words, he may...or may not...have been paid a lot of "Hollywood money" for his services by the studio, BUT he might have also been paid a more modest fee through DC Licensing which in fact does contract out work for movie promotional purposes or toy packaging and food tie-ins and whatnot. So it could have gone either way in terms of how much he pocketed off the job. Not to mentio, was he paid a higher fee for a contracted buy-out, and thus he made more upfront, but now he is owed absolutely no further money from royalties as the art gets used in all sorts of ways...
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At the end of the film Batman says he will carry the responsibility of the 6 that were murdered. Would Harvey make 7 if he were really dead? I don't think any major villians should be killed off this early in the franchise.
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Douchebag. As predictable as the tide, son.
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I agree. Need to see again to have a further opinion, but still not 100% if Dent is alive. He should be though.., I can't imagine who should fill Heath's shoes... probably nobody. maybe they should have killed him in post production... wouldn't have been hard actually.
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That was just plain intense!!! One of the best scenes I have seen in awhile! It was so absolutely CHILLING the way that Bats kept hitting him and kept making him laugh more. I always get a cold chill down the center of my spine when he would say "You have nothing you can threaten me with...nothing you can do to me for all your strength!" That summed up this Joker...he didn't care if he lived or died, if anyone else lived or died...he didn't really even care if his plans succeeded or not b/c he knew he'd get his chance some other time...he just...does stuff...like he says. That is what is so frightening about this JOker....you really can't do anything to hurt him and you cant frustrate his plans b/c even though he takes others' plans and turns them on themselves he really doesnt have a plan. He just is...
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by the way, Rachel dies and Gordon lives.... suck it hard baby.
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was probably bigger than regular comic work. I'm not sure, either, see? That's why I said "I'll bet" instead of "I know." But my guess is the biggest movie of the year probably paid pretty well.
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I never said if I saw Dark Knight or not. You're just gleefully being a fuckwit and acting exactly how I'd expect a guy like you to act.
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well you must feel like the coolest geek in the world right now, don't you. Now excuse me while I leave this chat to fuck my girlfriend. And no, she's not fat or ugly... beating you to punch shithead.
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I agree! How fucking Fight Club was that shit with the Joker. I think he is the best Post-9/11 bad guy HANDS DOWN!! and in the running of all time baddy!
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you getting into bed with all that pent up fanboy rage. And you'll be thinking about me and how mad I made you the whole time you're banging away at her. Well, have fun with that.
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Made me laugh. Thanks guys, was funny reading your shit. As for the Batman/Joker art, friggen awesome. Loved the movie. Loved Ledger. Can't wait to see with a Batman 3. Big shoes to fill, but damn I have me some faith in the team behind it. Guess the Pope has made me feel all religious.
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Considering he started off as little more than a Neal Adams clone, Sienkiewicz continues to amaze me with his stunning design work. Just beautiful stuff. :)
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it's right here http://tinyurl.com/6rzhjj
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I own a few of his (non-comic book oriented) watercolors, and guests always comment on them. His run on The New Mutants was amazing.
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Wow, you guys!!! Keep going. That's some funny stuff right there.
Anyway, love this art, and I'm betting they commisioned him to do the Joker art after everybody fucking jizzed when they saw the Joker for the first time way back in December.
I too loved everything about this movie, but, yeah, that interogation scene was tops, for all the reasons. But, it was his conversation with that detective that really got me. Remember, "It's all part of the plan." And that was what was chilling about it. He kinda knew every step of the way, OR, he just was really good at imporvising. Because with chaos, and anarchy, there's no wrong answer!!!!
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that art was off the wall...that, stray toasters and big numbers...
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With Sienkiewicz art. That would be brutal, realistic, dark and a sight to behold.
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but damn I should. great style and love the gritty take. very silver age and pimp as hell.
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I was at Comic Con a coupla years ago and could've bought an original Big Numbers page which was really nice, & wasn't all that expensive in the scheme of things, but didn't in case things got tight moneywise. Ah regrets...
I love his version of The Shadow too. And his Moby Dick. And I read something somewhere about he and Neal Adams working TOGETHER on some film project or something a few years back. Does anyone know about that and can fill me in? -
Forgot the extra I in the surname. Should know better, being half Polish. I think it's the half Irish side that can't spell.
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Why not me?
I had a feeling this DK shit was all hype and indeed, found the movie pretty much on par with BB. I think I'm pretty much done with Batman movies that involve suits of armor, until someone, even a fan, just makes a DKR
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I like it. I've been looking for concept art for TDK!
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He captured the insanity and chaos, but there's also something very suave about the Joker.
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loved his work ever since Moon Knight. Favorite bit is new mutants 18-29ish, which rocked my world back then! Elektra was beyond awesome too.
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for the Joker (if he is replaced).
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and they would be perfect. Love and Kisses from the hair club for villains
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looks like he's rushing to give someone the phone
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...not that there's anything wrong with that. Very Project Gotham if you will.
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I agree! Bill's stuff on New Mutants back in the day is, hands down, my favourite of his work. Was wonderful seeing some real 'artistic' renderings of mainstream Marvel heroes and not just your typical comic book art. It was cutting edge for sure! And with regards to The Dark Knight? Wow. Just wow. I agree with the idea of Dent NOT being dead. For all intensive purposes 'Harvey Dent' is dead... but Two-Face? A small groan or something from him lying there could have put all the fan-boy speculation to rest. Did anyone else catch Alfred's remark near the beginning of the film when Bruce was saying he needed a new suit? Protection against dogs? And Alfred says that Fox xould make him one to protect him against dogs... and certainly 'CATS'! Meow! Bring on Selina Kyle!
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It's "for all intents and purposes," folks. Don't be afraid to crack open those textbooks, they're more afraid of you than you are of them.
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doesn't mean he has to come back or any shoes need to be filled. It may just be a simple choice of keeping the comic staple of having no villain killed but locked up in Arkham.
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if this was done for production of the movie, it must have been done very late in production. all of them are date '08.
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yes Jack Colby, assuming there will be many more. Money definitely dictates much of that and TDK is breaking records left and right. And I think TDK has really boosted Batman's iconography once again. Regarding Bat-villians, I always like to believe that Batman and his rogues gallery will be in a neverending conflict; like what the Joker said when he's hanging upside down, him and Batman will be each other's foil perpetually. And seemingly killing off Dent/Two-Face sort of reminded me of what was done with Venom. But in TDK the "death" works as part of the story (all of the deaths do) and doesn't in the least bit fail like the turd Spiderman 3 did story-wise. It's another sign of TDK's clever script that they have us speculating over Two-Face's fate. They may not even bring back the Joker for a while (if he's in the next movie just make it a small role in Arkham), but I'm happy to know he's going to linger in the Bat-film-universe.
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That's what I saw in the third pic, anyway.
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i loved the film and Ledger and his Joker, but all i can think of when i see these is The Crow.which isn't a bad thing. i'm just sayin'.
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i had the same thought, just a small appearance from inside Arkham for Joker in the next one. but he needs to be felt, for sure.
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Hate to be the downer guys but it is just stylized re-renderings of already created art from the style guide. I have the style guide for the film on the shelf next to me. All he has done is traced the pre-rendered poses and art in his style. The guy is a great artist but not for this work.
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I was a big fan of Bill S's work on New Mutants and even read Elektra: Assassin because of it (despite one of Miller's most obtuse stories ever.) Especially like his Venture Brothers DVD cover art.
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'Nuff said...get some stories or at least stop padding your list of "news".
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Im pretty sure he penciled in nipples, too.
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this guy likes to draw, and then scratch them up with needles. Oh and the sprinkle toner dust on them.
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I think he's alive, but locked up in Arkham, while Gordon and Bats have made the people of Gotham think he's dead, thus keeping the illusion of his white-knight image alive.
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Gonna super obscure on your asses. Wanna see some super badass Sienkev!@$%& (or however you spell it) stuff? Check out an old set of trading cards he did for Eclipse press back in 1989. It's a set of cards with artwork of dictators around the world the US has supported. This post is not about the politics of the cards, just the amazing artwork. Also, check out the set about the Kennedy assassination, "Coup D'Etat". Amazing artwork. Next level from his comic work.
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better than the earlier suit, but still too military. They need to give it a grey color....so it looks more like it does in the comics.
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you act like Sienkiewicz is some random artist. he's pretty influential you know.
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Most of it draw overs of photographs. BORING.
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As a kid I used to buy the odd Ritchie Rich or Archie comics with an occasional foray into the big boy stuff like Fantastic Four. Then I saw the New Mutants story "Slumber Party" on the shelf with art by Bill S. and that was that. I loved the art with all the messy scratchiness and severe globs of ink. Nobody does Warlock better imho.
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Anybody else remember Ivich? She was a green skinned warrior mutant in the Gladiators. Bill S. made her look HOT and like Frankenstein's Monster's daughter at the same time...big square head, sunken cheeks, fat caveman brow...I know I'm not selling it, but I swear she was hot in his depiction.
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that's the best his stuff has ever loooked. Sure looks like he had an inker clean it up. Usually Sinkeshitz's stuff looks lousy. Just look at the old New Mutants issues he did art for.
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As much as i would love to have the joker in the next one, it can't be done. Sorry, it cant Ledger's joker will stand supreme, and another joker would be insulting. but hey! there are a million villians that are realistic enough to be explored by Nolan's team of amazingness.
The Riddler has been mentioned several times, and most people assume that Anthony Micheal Hall (Who has a very minor role in TDK, and the GCN news anchor Mike Engle) would be the Riddler. I thknk this is alluded to when the joker makes Engel read off a riddle to gotham about "the game".
They could allude to the joker, or show the back of some dude dressed like ledger's Joker with no dialogue.
also, we dont really know for sure if two-face is dead. or maroni for that matter. i heard Penguin and catwoman are allued to, but i dont think that Nolan should go for some of the more campy-esque characters.
I mean, if he does that, just bring back Ahnold for Mr. Freeze and have some monster-looking guy be killer-croc.
Nolan's Riddler could be really good.
but nolan is going to have to make the movie of all-time to beat TDK now that the bar is set so much higher. it almost makes me think that he shouldn't make another one.
another "return of the Jedi"
another "Godfather III"
but, i want my perfect trilogy.
then, he can stop.
end it on a high note.
I Believe in Chris Nolan.
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Those drawings are fantastic. Thanks for posting them!
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I remember alot of his stuff from the late 80's and early 90's it had such a liveley hyperactive quality about it. Did he do Arkham Asylum??? I have it on a shelf somewhere. His covers were always quite stunning. Another example of amazing lively comic art and why manga and all the clone manga clones suck fucking brown anus!!!
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I know he took a lot of his style from Klimt, but who cares, the guys a genius. I'm continually humbled by his seemingly effortless work. Thanks for sharing these!
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Even if it was at times too derivative of Adams. Then again, quite a few tried to emulate the Great Neal at one time or another - but Bill kinda went too far. He then veered off into the scribbly direction, which was annoying, and it turned me off of his work for quite a while. These drawings are quite good with the Joker being excellent.
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He's the reason I started reading it in the first place. I dropped it right after he left.
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i like it when you guys show this kind of thing. please do it more often.
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He ruined New Mutants? Did IQ's drop sharply while I was away? You people never cease to amaze with your steadfast refusal to appreciate anything of quality. I've never seen anything from Sienkiewicz that was less than awesome, and this continues his streak.
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He did not ruin the New Mutants. His art work was incredible. Marvel, trying out some new coloring process destroyed a lot of his great line work. Amazing stuff.
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I'm just saying...
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(film itself) and the marketing (styleguide art for licensees). With the stuff posted here being a few examples of the STYLEGUIDE stuff. How hard is that to understand really?
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what that book was like on its 18th issue when he invented it? how much of a loyal following did he piss off? sienkiewicz is the greatest. it only disappoints that he's doing uninteresting gigs like this batman promo crap now.
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And I loved Bill's run on the comic. What SUCKED ASS was when Rob "can't draw worth shit" Leifeld took over. THAT is what ruined New Mutants.
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... still available there for a very short time. :)
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Please post somewhere if you did. Thanks!
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if someone had these saved.
id like copies of the joker pics.
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