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How's a Darren Aronofsky-Directed ROBOCOP Sequel Sound?
Beaks here...
If Bloody-Disgusting is correct, and Darren Aronofsky's "rebuild" of ROBOCOP is actually a sequel set twenty years "after the termination of the Robocop program", then forget all that whinging over the sacredness of Paul Verhoeven's original. If ROBOCOP 3 couldn't tarnish that fucker, nothin' can.
Though it's a little disappointing that they've (allegedly) opted to move the series from Detroit to Los Angeles (especially when it'd be incredibly affordable to shoot in the actual confines of the Motor City nowadays), I'm cool with anything that allows Aronofsky to put his own stamp on the established mythology of the character (and let's pretend that this "established mythology" begins and ends with the first movie, okay?). According to Bloody Disgusting, talks between MGM and the director are fairly advanced. Perhaps Sony will have an announcement ready for their Saturday panel at Comic Con.
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sounds cool
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EVER FIRST!!!
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DAMN YOU!!!
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Pwned. and fuck first posters
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And I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Nice that Aronofsky will do something that's not pretentious...oops!
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Peter Weller better be in it!
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Surprisingly few Miller fanboys either know or acknowledge this.
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I couldn't sign in...I was missing my ! mark. This is what I get for rarely ever posting. I deserve it.
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Check that article, near the bottom, I said "Why not a loose sequel..." as my topic header! So, obviously, they read it and then changed thier minds. Thank you, TPTB!
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Keep it in Detroit or I could give a shit.
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Yay for no remake and yay for a reboot. He's freakin Robocop, you can just diassemble him and reassemble him years later.
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Jul 17, 2008 8:17:45 PM CDT
He can't do worse than what Frank Miller did
by the guy who slept through everything.
I feared a remake because of his idea for "Batman: Year One." A sequel sounds plausable and he'd go for a "R." Who could do Robo?
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At the very least, Aronofsky's name attached pretty much GUARANTEES that this will 1) carry a hard R-rating, and 2) retain the caustic social commentary that distinguished the original.
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Aronofsky create something original. Loved The Fountain (aka I heart Rachel Weisz)
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Ralph Fiennes as Cain. Get it?
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I was not happy with the prospect of a remake. A sequel I can handle. As long as they remain respectful of the source material, I will give it a chance.
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HOLY SHIT!!
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I feel 101% safe about this film
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Keith David reprises his role as Big Tim perhaps?
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As long as that's what it stays, and doesn't go back to being a remake. The original was near-perfect.
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Maybe no one is, but I could care less about Aronofky's take.
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it makes no sense. If you could care less, it means you care. Just saying
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robocop has taken to self repair. he's a patchwork of homemade parts and scrap. he's alone stacking garbage in los angeles, then suddenly a robot called EVE comes down, and...
oh wait, robo cop, right?
will he be living with nancy allen complaining about his stiff hip joints. no really, they're joints. -
the third movie sucked so bad
it made howard the duck look like citizen kane i was only 11 when the first film came out and now that im in my early thirties i
think its time for a new take onthe character as... as long as it doesnt suck -
Is the rumor it will be 3D still in the air? I'd hate it to be just a gimmicky sequel where the visuals try to hide the shallow nature of the rest.
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Most of what he wrote didn't make it to the screen. The experience is what swore him off Hollywood until Rodriguez was able to get him to do Sin City. What most fanboys REALLY ignore is that Robocop 2 was directed by Irvin Kershner, the man credited with the creative success of The Empire Strikes Back. Funny how he gets a pass while people will look for any chance to dump on Miller.
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i mean the hand to hand fights between him and crackbot were good. and any movie where one robot rips out another's brain and smashes it is worth a viewing or two.
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...that I did about hearing the news that Schwarzenegger was going to star in "Batman & Robin". Schwarzenegger only does one film a year, so it was something that I looked forward to. When I heard the news about B&R, I thought "Great, so it will be at least two years before another Schwarzenegger film that doesn't suck."
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Aronofsky might actually post-postmodernize the whole thing into something interesting... at least more interesting that Robocop 4 would normally be, anyway.
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hugh jackman or Mickey Rourke is an out of work robocop trying to find his place in a society that has moved past and made him obsolete. he takes work as a mall security bot just to afford his nutrient paste. but when he witnesses something big going down, he is forced to came back into action.
meanwhile there are lots of flashbacks and inner turmoil about man and machine, blah blah blah. -
Is he a cousin of Aronofsky?
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Was watchable and still dark and violent, just half an hour to long! That flick is like 2 hours long.
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Geez, yet another freakin remake.
Robocop today would be gay as hell. Heck, even watching the original again was painful. Made me realize the "tough guys" of the 1980 movies looked like members of YMCA... -
If they scrap Detroit for L.A. when Detroit is now the cheapest major city to film a movie in the U.S. then they are not only pissing on the original movie, they're just flat out retarded.
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Jul 17, 2008 9:00:21 PM CDT
I must be one of the few who loves the second Robo..
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
I just dig how ultra-mean it is. Goddamn Kain cracks me up. The single greatest line from a villain as well.... "Jesus....had days like this."
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sorry.
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They didn't shoot the original in Detroit anyway so who gives a shit? Right?
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This project will greatly benefit both parties. It will give Arronofsky a chance to showcase his talent and creativity, and to revitalize his career... which needs a bit of a boost after the Fountain. And it will give a much needed new direction to the Robocop franchise, and probably result in a better film for the series than any that have come before.
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Jesus...had days like this.
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...the fanboys aren't immediately trashing this to the same extent that the trashed George Miller's Avengers or Rob Zombie's Halloween from the get-go just because it doesn't fit the original "vision." Maybe there's hope for you guys.
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i like everything about this except the la part. and read closely, it says robocop PROGRAM. which might mean an la cop becomes robo and no murphy. that would suck
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SoylentMean, while you got that whore Hollywood in the kitchen making sandwiches, demand to bring some beers out too and give Hollywood a nice pimp slap just to show who the fuck is da boss! Its about time Hollywood listens to the fans!
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Very interested in seeing where Arronofsky will take the concept.
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Like Solid Snake PS3 old....
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What I'm saying is that, with the new Michigan tax credits, they could save money by shooting in Detroit. And then when they have the set visit, I essentially get a free trip home!
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I can tell you that right now. He will never go through the suit-ups again. He's too old and too well established in the educational world to want to go through the makeup crap again.
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in the "WORST MOVIE SITE ON THE NET". I don't get it
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"Thank-you for your cooperation, dumbass."
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the shit that he went through over 20 years ago he wouldnt have to go through as much. im sure it wouldnt take 13 hours to get into the suit again so who knows maybe hell consider it. that would be badass though. ed harris would be good but he might be too old too.
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Christian Bale. He's in every other fucking movie. he he
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Aronofsky take on the new Terminator and have McG do RoboCop.
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Jul 17, 2008 9:32:10 PM CDT
At least, it's no RoboCop vs Terminator by Paul WC Anderson
by spencertrilby
rated PG-12 1/2
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Jul 17, 2008 9:32:20 PM CDT
Well It Couldn't Be As Bad As The Career Castration Of I, Robot
by troutmaskreplicant
I just get the sense that Proyas came away from that particular film feeling wrung out by the system. At least Aronofsky is building a foundation for himself in more drama orientated low key films. But I can imagine the studio interfering his ass off with Robocop.
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point it at ED-209 in a threatening manner.
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His preproduction work on Batman: Year One was pretty impressive, and he is an incredible director. I'm totally on board.
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It's irrelevant whether it was actually shot in Dallas or wherever... the point is: it would be stupid NOT to shoot in Detroit with the tax breaks Mr. Beaks mentioned before, especially since the original STORY was set in Detroit.
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where ROBOCOP was shot.oh well. they've still got the space program.
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At it's best it will be an awesome movie that introduces Robocop to a new generation and respects the original film. At it's worst it can't possibly be as shitty as Robocop 2 or 3. No need to bitch.
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Robocop 2 barely resembles Franks script. Robocop 3 even more so.
If you want a better idea of what Frank Miller wrote pick up the comic Frank Millers Robocop Avatar Comics its only like 9 or 10 issues that came out between 03 and 06. -
the robocop comic series he did was incredible, too bad that storyline wasn't used for part 2.
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Let's get this show on the road!
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I actually just saw that movie a few days ago... it was awesome!
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Sucked large.
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Hope Aronofsky gets deep into the struggle to maintain humanity theme so prevalent in the first. Hope its real nitty gritty too.
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I don't think this is the right fit for him. If he really wants to snag a franchise, find something else that more suits his quirky sensibilities.
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count me the fuck in
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This guy needs to be feeding us mindblowing art films not shoot em ups.
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This is like a lead actor having to do a romantic comedy to make amends for their sci-fi inter-space drama flop. Or something equally silly. Hopefully this will keep his hands off Lone Wolf And Cub for, well, ever! But I doubt it.
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amounts to just about nothing? everyones golden boy del toro did direct hellboy. AND MIMIC and those were a steaming pile of meh. am non plussed with filming in l.a. filming in detroit would have been at least gritty. the place is a pisshole.
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Aronofsky is TERRIBLE. Totally wrong for this. He doesn't do satire, he does a bad imitation of Lynch but without the talent, imagination, or intelligence Lynch demonstrates so effortlessly. I predict EPIC FAIL for this project.
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Man, my grammar is really falling apart.
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Detroit IS still number 1 in crime and is in shambles more so today. It would be completely idiotic to move, especially now.
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Bitches leave! Will they be doing ass to ass?
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Did you not read the headline?
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He would run WILD with that show. It almost happened once, but it NEEDS to happen. Fuck Robocop.
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All i remember is the scary gory parts. Robocop ripping the brain and spine out of the badguy bot, the ed 209s emptying like, a million rounds in the warehouse at night, (granted its been so many years since i saw it i cant exactly remember exact details...but I remember liking it. But thinking, jesus this is scarier than the 1st.
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As long as it's not a remake.
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In an capacity? A cameo at least.
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Q."How's a Darren Aronofsky-Directed ROBOCOP Sequel Sound?"A."Hummm rumble whirrr squeaksqueak squeaksqueak."
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... that the only Robocop DVDs I own are of that cheesy TV show from '94 (imported from the UK as there is no domestic DVD release to date).
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Robocop and ED209.You know you wants it you dirty dirty nerds.
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Bring back Verhoeven, FFS! He's the only one that can pull this off. Fuck Aronofsky!
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Frank Miller's script got tossed to the dogs b/c HOLLYWOOD sucks ass. This better have some kind of influence of his original scripts. Also, Peter Weller better be the star, or Bruce Campbell, whichever has the better casting call.
We need Evil Dead 4 by the way. -
Assss to Assss!!!!
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I hope they can convince Weller to don the suit again, if this is a sequel set 20 years later then the ageing won't be a problem.
The film needs the dark satire, the over-the-top gore and the lawless streets of Detroit (now Delta City?). But most of all it needs to remember that the core of the story was always the tragic story of Murphy and his isolated life if that suit.
Aside from the one scene in Robocop 2 where Murphy interacts with his wife none of the sequels have managed to "get" the tragedy of Murphy's situation (although I thought the oft-derided TV series did a fantastic job with this aspect). I hope this film can remember that. (And by TV series I don't mean that fucking awful Prime Directives mini-series).
I don't like the sound of moving it to LA, but I do like the idea of an older Robocop, and seeing how the years of isolation have treated him.
It's just a pity they can't hire Basil Poledouris. I hope they acquire the rights to do a Superman Returns-esque score which reuses all of Poledouris themes. -
I never thought that synths on a Batman soundtrack would sound so novel...
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Damn You Michael Bay
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but Aronofsky works.
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Jul 18, 2008 4:40:48 AM CDT
Have this as a part-vehicle towards ROBOCOP Vs. Teh TERMINATOR.
by halberd
It's about time. Arnold needs a buddy to tag along with for the ride into the world of expansion. Sequel upon sequel, and after much deliberation, there still remains a part inside me hankerin' for some inter-franchise, robot on robot action. Not by way of one man I shall refer to by initials as to protect his anonymity /cough AVP sucked hard /uncough. Potential production of an RvT film [to my knowledge] fell through before, so let's have at it once more!
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...oh wait a minute...
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Jul 18, 2008 5:02:29 AM CDT
This kills my chance of having Marvel produce a Deathlok Movie
by stalkeye
..C'mon, Robocop, been there done that. Besides it's hard to top Verhooven's original. Plus it was idea for the 80's during the Reagan era and not to mention the satire.Next!!
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Jul 18, 2008 5:07:22 AM CDT
Yeah, let's just focus on getting a DethKlok movie made instead
by s0nicdeathmonkey
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Alien 3 is underrated. Go fuck yourself
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good director, a sequel not a remake...this may actually work
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His new album shows he's still got the magic. Oh, what's that..? Peter. ok.
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Good director working on what sounds like a good project. And if this allows him to do more personal projects, all the better. Looking forward to The Wrestler and The Fighter.
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u have being warned!
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unlike you, some of us do not trawl every fucking entertainment site out there looking for news. So we don't particularly care that Harry is "late". It isn't a race.
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has done some cool stuff. He gets my money if he does this movie.
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stupid!
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I've heard Miller penned Robo 2 and 3. I've also heard his scripts were chopped up to hell and back and it turned him cold toward Hollywood for years, so yeah, let's not dwell on Miller and Robocop. Let's also remember that compared to Robo 3, Robo 2 is a masterpiece, so we shouldn't rag on Kershner too hard. Poor Robo has had a troubled past and any form of reboot/sequel needs to be PERFECT. Given the track record of one great flick, one mediocre, and one downright disgusting, a reboot is... well... hmm, it worked for Batman. Nolan has mopped up Schumacher's mess right nicely. Don't reboot, but a slick "20 years later" sequel could revive the franchise, if only for one flick.
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I wonder if he has the ability to work within a large studio environment. All of his films have been pretty small up to now, even The Fountain with all of its special effects wasn't a blockbuster.
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I really like the first Robocop and the second is all right. But one thing always bothered me. Why give ED209, the first failed Robocop 2 prototype and Robocain live ammo for an ordinary demonstration? Isn't that just asking for trouble? I know, I know, the scenes wouldn't be cool if they couldn't shoot people to pieces. But what company in their right mind would load these things with real bullets? It would be like loading a tank with live shells for a military expo. Think of all the lawsuits people would bring in real life. Of course this is a movie, so who gives a shit, right?
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Bloody Disgusting has NO source at all on their website for this article. This could be just plain bullshit to bring hits to their website. I remember Dark Horizons had this really awesome summery for the what was supposed to be "Pink Panther 10," back when it wasn't none if the next Panther film was going to be a prequel/sequel/remake. What happened? A streaming pile of shit remake with Steve Martin and Beyonce. That's what. I'm not staying calm till I see something OFFICIAL from MGM that this is indeed a sequel rather than a remake. I hope BD is right though.
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This might make a damned good sequel. I'll allow it.
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In R2 he presses the button on the remote, and think in R1 Ed automatically turns itself on to be armed. Plus that was intentional, Dick Jones is a total cunt. Aronofsky sounds really different but im betting hes fukn gone b4 it starts shooting. Secondly im imagining bjork robot humanity trip out, also his camera trick will be used yet again. Speaking of which, they used it in Lost series 2. It sounds fucked, but the movies gonna be fucked anyway. Why waste your breath. Theres only one robocop and that was 1987, Verhoeven, lapsed censorship laws and blood packs from hell. Plus, mother fukn best boardgame ever, NUKE EM
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See how commercial that is, maybe he can play the game
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the only statistic that matters is number of hits, and I can fucking assure you that Harry gets a damn sight more than Nukedthefridge. Fuck it, why am I doing this?
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Christian Bale doing this too?
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But in my opinion it should have been shot in Detroit. A big film shoot there could have really helped their economy. I also think that LA is overused. And Aronofsky has a lot of work to do to regain my respect after the train wreck that was The Fountain. He needs to take a cue from Chris Nolan. If you're reading this Aronofsky...Watch Dark Knight as many times as possible. Learn from it.
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fuck you ,fuck your free trip to the set and fuck filming in detroit . bring it back to L.A. , and if i sound biased well i am . sick of shit leaving this state and hacks writing about it .
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be shot in Louisiana anyways
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William Fichtner could be a good choice for the lead.
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Verhoeven's film is a masterpiece. Nothing Aronofsky could do to top it. Especially if he's shooting it in LA. But he could pull off doing a really good sequel. But The Fountain was terrible so I don't know. If this had been his follow up to Requiem then maybe I would be excited. But after The Fountain I am hesitant to put faith in anything Aronofsky does from here on out. But in all fairness a sequel isn't inappropriate...Just not a remake of the first one. That would be blasphemy.
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I saw a pic of here recently, and she's pretty hot for a woman in her late fifties.
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If Weller was going to reprise any role, I wish they would get the legal entanglments cleared with Buckaroo Banzai!
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I got the impression that Murphy had regained his memory and humanity .He'd stopped acting like a machine etc.So WTF was the deal , when the second one starts with him , back to being an emotionless , robo again.Besides which they made a total dick of him in that movie!The first one was cool as it was an origin story.But ever since theres been nowwhere to go .The non human Robo is just boring.Plus the total loss of ultra violence just killed it.I remember in the tv series , he'd sight up on someone , and then instead of shooting off the guys ballls...sight on the leg of a wardrobe and shoot that , so it fell on the villians head , knocking him out or some silly shit!!!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snfc_wNWqSU
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Good sci-fi is hard to find these days. Why bash a film that's an original story and is actually smart. In between Requiem and Fountain I heard a million rumors about what Aronofsky's next film will be. Robocop would be interesting but somehow I doubt it will get made.
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Jul 18, 2008 12:06:06 PM CDT
as long as it doesn't put in a big floating tree in space.
by toowhippy
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B/C when you hear LA, you think smog, gang violence, and hollywood. When you hear Detroit, you think economic despair, political corruption, the tragedy that is Lions football, and good old-fashioned Purple Gang murder...oh, and I love Detroit, don't get me wrong. It's a lot of fun/excitement!
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YEAH BRING THIS ON!
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believe it.
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Aronofsky doing RoboCop 4 instead of bringing Flicker to the big screen. Such a great fucking book, full of subliminal film techniques, and a script adapted from the source material by Jim Uhls. Yeah, the guy that perfectly brought Fight Club to the big screen. God, who the fuck cares about new Robocop? Even it's good it'll still be bad.
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I don't know, maybe I have a phobia or disorder or something but I find the whole plot disturbing.
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SOMEBODY understands the Fountain! Most people think the "space" scenes are not real, or not happening, or some other stupid dumb fucking idiotic interpretation. Its so obvious that at the end he's hell bent on discovering immortality, and the future him is the result of that. Its so simple and yet so few people get it. I swear to god people are just getting dumber by the second.
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Although both are brilliant young film makers so they are easy to confuse.
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..to say.."I'd buy that for a dollar!"
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Because that's what every scene in an Aronofsky movie is. Actors staring into the camera, in the center of the screen. Should be amazing.
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in the Robo-suit? To the point of needing accupuncture just to get through the day? Yea I'm sure he'll be wanting some more of that on his twenty-year older body.Re:Detroit, add an African-American mayor involved in some scandal, and the pictures complete.Beaks, you're from the Motor City? Well, whaddaya know.
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Whenever a movie or television show decides to relocate back to L.A., it never seems as good to me. Judging by what I see on the screen, L.A. has got to be the ugliest place on the planet (or they don't ever film the nice parts). It doesn't even have the character of a shithole. It's just a sprawling mess of an overused location. Either way, I don't think this will be made. And it would have to be getting a shitload of positive buzz before I'd even consider seeing it. Robocop worked for me as a kid, not so much anymore. Except of course, the "bitches leave" line.
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And if the Fountain taught us anything, Aranofsky had his removed surgically.
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Verhovens original is sacrosanct, no need to fuck with that what so ever, but an Aranovsky sequel exploring that conglomerate controlled dystopia
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Regularly beats AICN to news stories, to whomever it was above who was railing about it. Flame about it if you must, but I don't think most people come here for news anymore. Its all about the talkback.
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During a profile interview at my job I said that was my favorite quote. They looked at me like I was insane...tee hee hee.Actually I could see Aronofsky getting all meta-philosophical, with Robocop dying. Does he go to human heaven, or robot heaven?
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..is what happens when your an excellent director set to make a sequel to a "complete" first movie. I have decided that Aronofsky makes some idiotic decisions, and he has just raised the bar.
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Sequel, yes! But Mr. Weller? Fantastic idea, but aging *might* be a problem, as Murphy's RC "face" was apparently some sort of plasticised replacement, not his own face, so technically it wouldn't age. But fuck I'm being pedantic - Weller *was* RoboCop, not Burke, Eden or Fletcher, so bring him back for that reason alone.
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EOM.
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But is Peter Weller going to play Robocop again? No real reason why he can't with a little special effects magic to take off a few years, and nobody who ever played Robocop thereafter was able to get the voice and the walk down perfect.
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This may come as a shock, but I understood the story just fine, and *gasp*! hated it anyway.
The Fountain actually made me angry, it offended me on a deep level, and I'm a huge sci fi nerd. I pray for good, intelligent, high production value sci fi stories, and that's why the Fountain was such a knife to the eye.
It was a joyless, pseudo-abstract wank fest with very little care put into actually telling the goddamn story (which wasn't that complicated, just poorly rendered), with simple structure sacrificed on the wankerish altar of half-baked artsy shit. I love arty films, if done well, but this one reeked of inauthenticity, a hollywood director watching true artistic film and between blasting rails saying "It can't be that hard, I could do that shit. snort!" It was a FAILURE as a film, a failure as a two-hour piece of entertainment, a waste of talent and effects budget, and a multi-million dollar, incomprehensible love letter from Darren Aronofsky, to Darren Aronofsky.
Fuck the Fountain, fuck it in its cheap tawdry ass. -
You honestly didn't understand where I was coming from, huh? Hmm. I guess you're right, it's not like anyone else shares my opinion about that piece of crap movie. I'm just a lone voice, crying in the wilderness. Why oh why can't I make my hatred for that bloated putrid waste of film by that hack poseur understood by anyone? I guess I'm just cursed to be forever misunderstood.
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... Old Robo faces his own obsolesence with deteriorating hard drives breaking up the memories of his pre-Bodicker days he slowly loses his humanity and of course all the while fancy, albino cyborgs chop Delta City into catfood.
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'Nuff said
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I can understand not wanting to redo Detroit, and Batman seems to have locked down Chicago these days but there's always room in New York City for more heroes, villains, monsters, whatever. COME RIGHT ON IN.
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