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Vikings & Space Aliens?? How Cool Is That!?!? Another OUTLANDER Trailer Hits The Nets...

Merrick here...
Late last week, we got our first look at a look at the trailer for OUTLANDER (find it HERE). The film stars Jim Caviezel, John Hurt, and Ron Perlman. Producers on the project include Chris Roberts (of the WING COMMANDER games - he also produced LUCKY NUMBER SLEVIN, LORD OF WAR, and the first PUNISHER movie) and Barrie Osborne (THE LORD OF THE RINGS films, THE WATER HORSE) You can find more about the film HERE. The second rather strange, aggressively cool, and peculiarly promising trailer is embedded below!

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  • July 16, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by solartaco3

    I WANT WATCHMEN TRAILER!!!

  • July 16, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    i absolutely hate

    by the new transported man

    That scene in Hellboy where Hellboy's on the roof. The kid's a total fruitcake, & should've been mashed.

  • July 16, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Looks Good.

    by Dogma_Jedi

  • July 16, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Looks awesome.

    by Lord_Galvatron

    Looking forward to it!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Caviezel speaks Norse on his planet?

    by ilander66

    do they have a sort of universal translator (like star trek doctor who)? either way it looks pretty cool.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Predator 3: Beowolf

    by ilander66

  • July 16, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    I'm so glad this is being made

    by O_Goncho

    Even if it turns out to be Pathfinder level disappointing the world needs more films like this, much more.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Vikings and aliens ARE COOL!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Ain't it cool?

  • July 16, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Awesome

    by SamBlackChvrch21

    This is like a healthy mix of Enemey Mine, Pathfinder and Beowulf

  • July 16, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    "Temp Billing Block" is a cool name for a band.

    by DerLanghaarige

  • July 16, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Predator v Alien v The Thirteenth Warrior!

    by newc0253

    Q: Hey, you know what else is cool?<p> A: Probably not this.<p> Seriously, this trailer looks like it might be a reasonably entertaining action flick. I guess we could all be suprised and it turns out it's like the next PITCH BLACK or something. But somehow i doubt it.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Richard Stark

    by DerLanghaarige

    You do realize that cumming Skittles might be the most painful experience in your whole life?

  • July 16, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    damn, someone else beat me to the 13th warrior joke

    by newc0253

    that's comedy gold i tells ya!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Do all the aliens...

    by Kid Z

    ...speak in rumbly, echoey voices like Ra in Stargate or the Atlantean dudes in 10,000BC? Everyone knows all aliens have those echoey voices... unless they're the type of aliens who have those sped-up-tape, computer voices, that is.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    If a viking is an acountant for the army

    by g-ride9000

    and he dies writing a check for the war effort, does he go to Valhalla? Does the pen count as his sword, it is mightier.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Now this looks sweet...

    by Jonah Echo

    Danny, here's our newest chance to gawk at giant beasts chasing people.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Er, don't you mean an INDY 5 trailer hits the net?

    by Hooded Justice

    Vikings and space aliens? That's got Lucas' fingerprints all over it. Which means that it's guaranteed a great review from Harry, which he will write without even seeing the movie.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Outlander's story

    by Jonah Echo

    looks like the kind of thing that would have been in Wierd Science back or Astonishing Tales. And it's got a fun cast. Caviezel, Hurt and Perlman. <p> When is this getting released here? Honestly, why not drop it off in late August or September. If they market it right, they can make their money back. It couldnt have cost that much right? <p> One thing we haven't gotten this whole summer long was a decent monster/horror movie. <p> So, do we get a chance to go out and support it, or one day Ill be scanning Netflix, and due to my disturbingly high ratings of The Relic and Dragonheart, it will kick this out, and I'll realize it's been on video for months.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Vikings are cool?

    by Underdogthe3rd

    Common, they are barbarians wannabes!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Unless they seriously

    by Jonah Echo

    mung it up,this looks like pure comfort food. This is Beowulf the way you want it, with Grendel and the firedrake merged into one adversary: the Moorwen.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    so, lets do giant monster flicks..

    by Jonah Echo

    What did you guys think of Brotherhood of the Wolf. My suggestion is dump an hour of it, and let Mani survive, kill the libertine and punch up the Beast a bit more.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    forget the giant part of the monsters..lets just say monsters

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    From One Of the Producers of Lord of The Rings

    by kevinwillis.net

    That sounds like the tag line from one of those spoof movies. I like how it looks, but that's never a good sign. "From the Director Who Use the Same Caterer as Peter Jackson" . . . that makes me worry.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    aliens and medieval warriors

    by Jonah Echo

    were the main component of Krull. Not to step on anyone's childhood, but this should have an easy time of besting that one.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    'From the same genre as Star Wars"

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    I cant see this trailer currently..

    by Jonah Echo

    as Im at work. Is it significantly different than the first?

  • July 16, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Wasnt this supposed to hit theaters MONTHS ago?

    by Jonah Echo

    Has it not been picked up yet? I thought the Weinsteins had it?

  • July 16, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Loved the Relic, 13th Warrior not bad

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Always wished 13th Warrior had a Dragon or other massive creature just to make it a complete movie. Didn't like the cave people they faced. Although the snake of fire coming down the hill was pretty cool. This is why I look forward to Mummy 3. Dragons and Yeti.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    this could only be better

    by Jonah Echo

    if it was japanese samurai fending off a village from Godzilla..

  • July 16, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Anyone here like Beowulf?

    by Jonah Echo

    the Zemeckis flick. not the brutally bad Christopher Lambert vs. giant wrestler futuristic-medieval slab of trash.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    hopefully this will be better than reign of fire..

    by Jonah Echo

    I was quite psyched for that one too, and though I enjoyed it, it was more than a little disappointing. A big summer movie with dragons and decent size budget, and yet they were hardly glimpsed. ARRGGH!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Samurai would have to have Tom Cruise again

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Then it would be a fair fight. Always wondered why they never took Godzilla into the past. I know he was created because of nuclear radation, which didn't exist then, but at least let him accidently get sent back in time.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    I think that would be a great G film as well..

    by Jonah Echo

    One with him ending up in the past, and fighting Damaijin. Rock on!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Reign of Fire not bad at all

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    But it did seem like it couldn't decide if it wanted to be a pure survival story with Dragons in the background or Dragon story with survivors in the back ground. I personally enjoyed it and watch it everytime is comes on TNT or TBS. That male dragon didn't take shit off anybody.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    I'm not watching this unless

    by SoWasRed2012

    that's a vampire dragon and Jim Caviezel's alien turns into a zombie for some reason at the end of it. And there BETTER be talking pies! They don't necessarily have to be anyone's best friend but DAMMIT THEY BETTER BE TALKING!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I liked it Chitty..but it could have been better.

    by Jonah Echo

    And that was 2002, around the time those fun, cheap monster flicks were getting relegated to scifi channel. We have had a minor renaissance, what with Cloverfield, The Mist and The Host all getting made over the past year or so, and Hellboy 2 sporting a nice collection of beasties, large and small. And now Outlander. My thirst for creature flicks is so great right now, I actually have starship troopers 3 on my netflix queue. Yikes!

  • July 16, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Hate to bring this up but...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Emmerich's Godzilla killed more than that franchise for mainstream audiences. (I own the film on dvd and enjoy certian parts). Studios backed off several projects involving large creatures attacking people in mass. That included Meg. I for one really wanted to see a 100-foot shark eating the shit out of stuff. And no that Megaladon part 2 through 100 doesn't count. I'm talking big-budget films that would at least look decent.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    The 13th Warrior

    by kwisatzhaderach

    One of Jerry Goldsmith's greatest ever scores. So good Ridley Scott used it at the end of Kingdom of Heaven.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    talking pies..

    by Jonah Echo

    has there ever been a movie with a talking pie...hmm. Cabin Boy had a talking cupcake. House IV a talking pizza. Tales from the Darkside had an entire ensemble of talking fruit. Me and Him had a talking penis. But I can't recall any pies.

  • July 16, 2008, noon CST

    Yes, I've been having fun of late

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    The Mist, Cloverfield (on my Ipod no less), The Host. I'm a sucker for the creature feature as well. I even liked Lake Placid and bought it on dvd for two main reasons:<p> 1: Gaint croc eats bear.<p> 2: Betty White tells Gleason if she had a dick she would tell him to suck it. Words cannot express how I felt when I first saw that scene.

  • July 16, 2008, noon CST

    Jonah Echo - Talking Pies

    by SoWasRed2012

    I think we've identified a gap in the market that no-one has exploited since they've been distracted by a hilarious The Simpsons gag. I'll draw up a treatment.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    What we need are some producing teams.

    by Jonah Echo

    like in the 80s, who would commit themselves to making these sort of stuff. Now you get guys like Devlin and Emmerich who snatch up the right concepts but wring them of the fun and silliness and leave them dry, sucking husks.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    i was not aware of the Betty White Scene

    by g-ride9000

    that's beautiful.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry but

    by Rat Fink

    the idea for this movie is one of sheer genius. Alien+Vikings+Dragon=One bad ass fucking movie. Even though the cast isn't strong I think this movie is gonna kick some ass.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I loved Zemeckis' Beowulf..

    by Jonah Echo

    and it looked awesome on 3d(unlike JTCE, which was just ok). The dragon at the end of that film is one of the greatest movie dragons ever, with Vermithrax right up there too. Beowulf and Grendel is a decent film, but not much of an adventure film, more of a thoughtful art film. A good movie, but not quite what some would expect. I'm all for humanizing Grendel, but every version has failed to give a frightening or impressive design.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Anyone here like Anaconda?

    by Jonah Echo

    I had quite a bit of fun with that one when I saw it at the theater, and on subsequent viewings. There is enough knowing silliness there to make it fun. <p> Sci-fi often tries for that vibe but misses. See Mammoth for instance, that should have been greatly entertaining with Tom Skerrit and a resurrected alien mammoth, but sadly...no.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    I kinda like that Jesus guy...not sure about the...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...whole Son of God thing, but Jesus is pretty cool. I even liked Frequency...not a Great Film or anything, but I dug it. And that trailer looks like a double craptastic split with a cherry on top...I'm there with bells on.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Another should have been great..

    by Jonah Echo

    Sound of Thunder, and somehow it was so freakin' cheap I could barely look at it. Eight Legged Freaks shoulda' been a contender but was merely watchable. And the crown disappointment: Evolution-that plot lent itself to a great 50's style alien invasion tale with a built-in new creature device. But instead, they opted for fart jokes. Bravo.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    the ultimate geek version of Outlander

    by Jonah Echo

    would feature the monster crashlanding alone and having to battle Arnold as Conan fighting the monster, thus replaying Predator all over.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Temp Billing Block!!!

    by BurtGummer

    I'm so there!

  • July 16, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Another disapointment was The Cave..

    by Jonah Echo

    it's like they can't get this stuff right without a major director coming to it. What about the days when there were guys who made trash, and specialized in it? <p> And since Im trying to keep track of the all the potential schlocky pleasers, is Trick R' Treat coming this October?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Anyone been over to Amazon..t

    by Jonah Echo

    they have a good sci-fi sale going on. If you are into b-pictures they have the old Journey to the Center of the Earth for 8 bucks, and 10 Million Years B.C. for 5. Same for Enemy Mines I believe, and When World's Collide is also five bucks.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    I completely agree with your assessment of Brotherhood Of The Wolf. It would have been SO much better if they'd realised they had the wrong guy as the hero (he was a boring French guy for fucks sake) and not made a 4 act film. It stops just as it's meant to be reaching a climax then starts again from zero, ruining the pacing completely. Funnily enough, the same thing happens in Silent Hill so maybe it's a Christopher Gans thing. Also the cgi was horrible, it really let down the monster. It's a shame really it could have been really very good.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Danny..Im sorry..I wish I could agree..

    by Jonah Echo

    I wanted to love Sound...but the cgi was so distractingly bad. For ex: the best creature was the baboonasaur, but if you look at it, you realize it is the same cg model as the one they developed years earlier for The Relic. Look at it, almost identical. The Relic had Stan W. working on it and it was also practical fx, and it worked well. The baboonasaur was a ripoff from go, and then we had that TERRIBLE scene where they are all walking through the woods and it's clear it's only two animated baboons replicated to represent an entire herd. UGGH. And Kingsley's hair. The greatest evolutionary nightmare of them all.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    wow..this talkback is chugging along..

    by Jonah Echo

    moving on up. Where are the patron saints of TB Series, Jarv and JPT?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    last time Rings got mentioned..

    by Jonah Echo

    it was Black Sheep. Another schlocker that should have been better than it was. Killer sheep how do you go wrong? <p> Actually if you want to see a mutated livestock flick that is actually creepy and delivers a B-movie good time, rent Isolation. Seriously. Danny, did you see it?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Fred think Pitch Black needs some love

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    That was a cool movie that gets overlooked as both action flick and sci-fi thriller with monsters too!

  • July 16, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Danny..if you can somehow contract ILM

    by Jonah Echo

    to do new fx work for Sound...then I will gladly agree with your assessment.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Richard..the Meet Dave joke was funny..

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    what did Jon Voight have Ass face?

    by classyfredblassy

    All thru Anaconda, he looked like he was smelling someone's beer farts. "This river can kill you in a thousand ways"..says ass face voight.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    Getting the crew of the nearest community college to do stop motion would be fine at this point.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    speaking of viking beasts..

    by Jonah Echo

    anyone here ever see low budget flick, Runestone?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    This looks pretty cool.

    by BYOBkenobi

    This is the type of movie that came out 20 years ago, the ones that were struggling to even get made in an uncertain genre. Movies like Alien and 2001 that were risky and weren't popular are now iconic in terms of atmosphere and handling of subject matter. This movie combines two genres and may be a change that is welcome...it's up to us to see it.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Jesus was a Viking

    by gavdiggity

    who fought dragons from outer space. It's all right there in the bible, people.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    good call kenobi..

    by Jonah Echo

    Let's keep this talkback going with talk of Outlander, and memories of those movies you mentioned. Have a favorite BYOB?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Mediaeval Predator, anyone?

    by Ray Gamma

    Well, this one has come out of nowhere.... I think it looks pretty interesting to be honest!

  • July 16, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Isolation

    by Jonah Echo

    was a cool movie about an irish farmer who allows a company do testing with his cows. The results are a mutant calf that spawns something horrible, something that has frightening implications for the whole world. It's a fun throwback flick with tense scenes, dark passageways and paranoia as the characters deal with a contagion and a monster at the same time.

  • July 16, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    how many times did he leer

    by Jonah Echo

    at Kari Wuhrer anyway?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Rich, are you like the replacement

    by Jonah Echo

    for that guy who enjoyed being ravaged by swine last week?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Caviezel for Superman!

    by stuatfunnyordie

    that is all...

  • July 16, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Gotta agree

    by Wants Vaders Executor

    with previous posters who said that: "From one of the producers of Lord of the Rings" is unbelievable crap. And "Temp Credit Block" or whatever is funny. <br> <br> But seriously, just scrap that first line with the one producer. <br> <br> "This film has the guy who voice-overs all the trailers from Lord of the Rings as Second Unit director." "And got promoted by AICN!"

  • July 16, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by BYOBkenobi

    My fav is most certainly Alien. The whole corporation angle on aliens is what I love about it. The whole feeling of helplessness that is on the faces of the crew, put through hell because someone wants to profit. Genre defining movies like Predator using POV as an effective way to keep the suspense moving along. The first time anyone saw Predator, tell me you didn't feel like you were hiding out with Arnie hoping you don't get killed?

  • July 16, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    I'll see anything with Jesus in it.

    by SkeletonParty

  • July 16, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Its just crazy enough to work...

    by I made Wilhelm Scream

    so said the sci fi buff :'x Seriously though. It's different, and it looks entertaining... I'll be there opening night ;')

  • July 16, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    BYOB

    by Jonah Echo

    My wife and watched Prdator on the projector just last week and I STILL feel like Im hiding out with Arnie, trying not to get killed. Most effective scene in that regard is the one where he is mired in the mud. It made so much difference I think that the creautre was invisible. It's viewpoint was the only relatable aspect of it for a long time. It's what they tried to do with Wolfen, but that was such a wierd movie that it just ended up putting the movie farther out there.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Rich..

    by Jonah Echo

    sounds like the glory that was Hellboy 2, but instead of skittles..it was Reeses Pieces. Not as fresh.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    last effective monster thrillers

    by Jonah Echo

    were The Mist and Descent. Both great extrapolations on creepy beast stuff. The Host rocks too, but I'm not sure it's scary. More Spielbergian.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Two crashlanded intergalactic warriors..

    by Jonah Echo

    fighting it out in a primitive culture...someone above said it had been done before, and they are right. SUBURBAN COMMANDO.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Jesus is way cool...

    by Kid Z

    ...he can turn water into wine... and if he wanted to, he could turn wheat into marijuana and sugar into cocaine.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    crazy scary ass horror movies (from our youth)

    by Philo

    Island of Terror. The later, great Peter Cushing fighting cancer monsters that eat your bones (not kidding here). Wonderful. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060548/synopsis

  • July 16, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I'm interested to see

    by Jonah Echo

    how Caviezel fares in this. I can understand his placement in this role. Honestly, if I was forced to recast Michael Rennie in Day I would have gone with him, not Keanu. And it's not the Jesus gig that makes me say that. It's Caviezel's demeanor and the way he carries himself-sort of detached and yet introspective. Prob wny he was cast as the big J in the first place.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Outlander

    by Philo

    Also, Outlander looks like real good fun. But when are we going to get a mvie of David Gemmells Legend?

  • July 16, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    "...free coupons for a free Gotham Pizza..."

    by Kid Z

    Or find a pizzaria that honors all competitors coupons. Then make up your own pizza place and print up some coupons... "Free Pizza Hut franchise with purchase of a large coke..." Shit, I miss Mitch Hedberg!

  • July 16, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Philo...

    by Jonah Echo

    good choice. A few weeks ago someone on here couldnt remember the title of the flick, but knew the premise. I was fielding questions from people who had forgotten movies. I did manage to recall this one and answer his question. In the process, brought up a bit of good memories. It's a winner, for sure.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Find Marshall Fine's reveiw of Anaconda

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That was some of the funniest shit I've read in awhile (beside the flame wars here).<p> Quote: "I wish the Anaconda had turned its attention to the director and producers."<p> "We all know anacondas eat a big meal once and that's enough for a month. This one had the furvor of a vaccumm cleaner salesman working on commission."<p> Great stuff.<p> Personally I like to watch the movie drunk and root for the snake.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Does anyone know if the Morwen in this film..

    by Jonah Echo

    speaks. It's a warrior from space right. A sentient being? I wonder if it speaks. Hopefully with the voice of Sean Connery. "I am the lasht one! And there can BE only one, Ouutlaaander!"

  • July 16, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Might I bring up Rawhead Rex

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That bastard was the first monster movie where you didn't just run away and ambled along and finally got to you. He sprinted across the field or marsh like a crazed Ray Lewis. Only it didn't end with just a tackle.<p> He also pissed on a preist who was screaming 'Yes!Yes! Thank you!'<p> Wow.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    anyone see Lewis Teague's Alligator?

    by Jonah Echo

    Now that is some fine schlock. Alligator 2, not so much. What can one expect from the same time period that gave us Troll 2, Gate 2, Beastmaster 2, Scanner 2, Trancers 2, To Die For 2, From Within 2, etc.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    This premise sounds like someone watched Space Chimps on Acid

    by Slippy

    Aliens, vikings, and the guy who played Jesus? The director must have had some great shit to think up this premise.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Rawhead...and his spiritual cousin

    by Jonah Echo

    Cellar Dwellar. <p> Oddest part of Rawhead is when he yokes that woman out of the trailer and her dress comes off, and he's waving a naked screaming women around with that "why is the food acting up" look on his face.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    The Unholy was good stuff

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It wasn't so much the main demon that came out and was licking the priest, but those two little demons that came form nowhere and nailed him up. Little things like that give me the creeps. So did the It's Alive baby. Those could hide anywhere and be on your ass quick. (Shudders)

  • July 16, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    and for a mighty blast from the past..

    by Jonah Echo

    Razorback. Mulcahy's epic about a giant marauding pig. And it's good. No, really. It's good.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Army of Darkness + Halo

    by pmarq

    Sheer unadulterated BRILLIANCE! First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    and as I always will in a monster TB

    by Jonah Echo

    let me mention The Meatloaf Bear from Prophecy and Q:The Winged Serpent, who tangoed with David Carradine and lost.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    GNAW: Food of the Gods 2.

    by Jonah Echo

    It wasnt great, but c'mon, there arent enough movies with titles like Gnaw.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    DGD Rawhead Rex is very good

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I used to go to local video store and would go through the horror section. I would just look at the cover art and then the back to make sure it had some sort of beast in it. That's all it took to get my money. I even rented the VCR. It weighed about 50 pounds and looked like a suitcase. Good times. Rex was one of those movies that had the premise of a Sci-Fi original, but it looks like they gave a fuck about how it turned out. Watch it a little drunk and get ready to gasp and laugh. I would love to add Rex to many other movies.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Unholy's little minions

    by Jonah Echo

    were the primary scary thing there. The monster was some kind of giant dog right? Monster canines are always a favorite. Zoltan, Hound of Dracula. Devil Dog. Monster Dog. I think it's time for some giant celtic hound beast movie.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit Jonah you brought up Razorback!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Dear God, I love that movie. I know it's not supposed to be a cinematic masterpeice, but it captured the feeling of isolation better than many 'serious' movies I've seen today. It also had the standard boobie shot of good ole horror B-flicks. When that pig tore that dude's house in half I fell in love.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Rawhead is fun..

    by Jonah Echo

    those vhs days yielded much strange stuff. Anyone here see The Cellar about an ancient indian rat beast that lived in some kid's basement. I think it was made in like 1990. It had one of those icky creature covers. Also, Scared Stiff with Andrew Stevens that was pretty much incomprehensible.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I saw Beowulf & Grendel with Stellan Skarsgard

    by Beowulf316

    The historic settings and costumes were cool but the movie was very long and started to get boring. Also the Beowulf-Grendel-Witch woman love triangle thing was stupid. They also made Grendel just a misunderstood giant. I'm tired of that approach, Grendel is the original boogey man not some big guy with hurt feelings. Anyone see the SciFi Beowlf movie with the RPG crossbow?

  • July 16, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Alice Cooper's Monster Dog also had a wicked cover

    by Jonah Echo

    Just IMDB if you don't believe me.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Unholy demon/chick

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    The beast was disquising itself as a hot naked chick. And as it was licking him, it would cut to flashes of hot chick then demon. But yeah, it looked like a Rottweiler with no fur. Its skin had the texture and look of pizza with the topping and cheese pulled off.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Is Caviezel a quick learner like Banderas

    by Chanoc

    Banderas learned the viking language in a matter of hours in The 13th Warrior

  • July 16, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    kevinwillis.net

    by batzilla

    LOL! You stole my thunder man! Your post was EXACTLY what I was going to post! Not the "From the Director Who Use the Same Caterer as Peter Jackson" but something close LOL! That was great!

  • July 16, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    What about the Unspeakable

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It was some sort of female witch/sasquatch with white hair. I wish they hadn't started doing mass drug testing in the studios after the mid-nineties. Those guys were turning out some bizarre creatures left and right. Now we get CGI creatures all based on almost the same software.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    beowulf..

    by Jonah Echo

    I did sadly see the sci-fi one, where Grendel looked like Shrek. Who was Hrothgar in that? I keep thinking it was someone I should feel sorry for.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Unnameable you mean, Chitty..

    by Jonah Echo

    Unnameable and Unnameable II. <p> Can't leave Charles Band out of the conv. Subspecies? Good lord!

  • July 16, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Seed People!

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Q the winged serpent sequel

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I remember the end had a question mark like there could be a sequel. It also had the naked chick in the rooftop pool. I think they had the standard formula of monster, flawed hero and nudity. Works for me.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Bad Channels!

    by Jonah Echo

    whose villain was described by one of the characters as a "turd with a porthole window". And always remember that Blue Oyster Cult did the music.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Xtro and Xtro 2!

    by Jonah Echo

    for all your goopy alien purposes.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Demonic Toys and

    by Jonah Echo

    Dollman vs. the Demonic Toys.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    and the Japanese did their part..

    by Jonah Echo

    with Zeiram. Let's hear some love for Zeiram, which had both a sequel and an anime prequel called Iria. All were good.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Dang I should have looked the name up

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I'm going from pure memory here, so my movie names may be a bit off. This is the best talkback ever.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Syngenor..

    by Jonah Echo

    with big lunky mutants. <p> And since we are talking Barker, how bout Nightbreed. Now that was a fine horror movie.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Elves..

    by Jonah Echo

    which featurd military experiments done on Santa's elves.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Demonic Toy monkey

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I watched a movie where the kid got a toy monkey and when it hit those cymbels together something bad would happen. I remember the dad trying to get rid of it by cleaning the house and accidently knocking it into a garbage bag. The kid then knocked over the garbage can and fished it out. That was some funny shit.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Watchers 1 through a million

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    CHITTY NOOOOOO!!!

    by Jonah Echo

    YOU HAVE FOUND IT. I mentioned it last 2012 talkback and wrote this"The Devil's Gift, and god help you if you have seen it." Im sorry Chitty. I truly am. That was a piece of suck. <p> And it's based on a stephen king short story no less.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Sorry, I meant cymbals

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

  • July 16, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE

    by Jonah Echo

    nuff said

  • July 16, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I couldn't beleive it was a movie!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I mnean the only scare was when the dad was dreaming and the dude in a werewolf all of the sudden was standing in a doorway and yelled "Arrrrgggh!" My favorite character was the neighbor. That guy reminded me of my uncle.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The Kindred

    by Jonah Echo

    with a monster so obviously inspired by Alien. The cover showed him jammed in a baby's bottle. Another piece of crap was The Jar. <p> And here is finally one I NEED help on. <p> Don't know the title, but recall seeing the cover many times. It had a cat with a little creature bursting forth from it's head. And no, I don't mean the cover art looked like that(some will be tempted to say Cat's Eye, but I know and own that one). This one had the creature emerging from the cat's mouth I think.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Remember all the Friday 13th ripoffs?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Let's see there was one called Humongous. I know there were many more, shit I'm drawing a blank.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Good recent ripoff was a foreign film

    by Jonah Echo

    called Cold Prey. Pretty good.

  • July 16, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    What was the one with the tagline...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Bubba's got an axe to grind. A big axe...<p> Was it called Bubba? Just remember how they all look the same except for the cover art.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Saw the Kindred because of the cover art

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Also loved the It's Alive cover art and It Lives Again cover art. That was the sole reason I rented those monster flicks. If they had a good cover I checked it out. I may have seen some bad flicks due to that, I wouldn't trade the experiences for anything.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    SPACEMAN AND KING ARTHUR 2: SUBHUMANOID MELTDOWN

    by palimpsest

    Here's hoping Jim Dale's in it.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    I'll see it

    by FatRat

    they had me at vikings and space aliens... what can I say?

  • July 16, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Creature from Cat's mouth

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That wasn't Night of the Demon's was it. I remember demons coming from everywhere. One was a kid demon who ran in the room swinging for the fences. They killed it and another smaller demon came from the kid! It looked like a frog with big teeth. That movie creeped me out.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Chitty, the bubba movie is actuall called

    by Jonah Echo

    Slaughterhouse. And the tagline said Meet Buddy. He has an axe to grind. A big one. This POS came to theaters. I recall seeing the black and white print ad in the sunday paper as a kid. My brother and I would take turns scaring each other with it. Also recall seeing the rotting hand from House and the Troll from Troll one newspaper ads when they first came out. <p> I've seen Night of the Demons. Don't recall that cover art. Should check though.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    here it is Chitty.

    by Jonah Echo

    <p> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093990/

  • July 16, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    John hurt

    by Flipao

    He's making a movie here, making a movie there, making a movie every-fucking-where.<br><bR> Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it is worth pointing out the man sure works hard.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    shit..finally got around to watching this

    by just pillow talk

    I think I love the mish-mash of genres going on here. <p>I'll be all over this when it releases on DVD.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    we gonna keep this TB going?

    by Jonah Echo

    even though Terminator is blasting on up

  • July 16, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Danny and Series..

    by Jonah Echo

    I need help finding a movie. Sadly I dont have much to go off of. I posted the description above in the post that says "The Kindred"

  • July 16, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Jonah did you read that imdb page?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It had a tag for a Spoiler Alert! A Spoiler Alert! For this movie! I mean who could be told the plot of this movie and not know what is going to happen.<p> But the funniest thing was the other title of the movie: Bacon Bits!<p> Holy shit I spit water on my keyboard...

  • July 16, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Hurt has a varied career..

    by Jonah Echo

    Some odd highlights: voice of Aragorn in Bakshi's Lord of the Rings. <p> frankentein Unbound-talk about a B movie. Corman's last directed flick. <p> Obviously Professor Broom. <p> Alien. <p> 1984. <p> The Storyteller. <p> All the Little Animals. Ever see this? Christian Bale as a messed up young guy trying to evade his scary stepfather, whom he refers to as "The Fat" and Hurt as a crazy hermit with a dark past who buries the animals that get hit on the highway.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    no X-Files reviews yet?

    by Jonah Echo

    This thing is really flying under the radar no?

  • July 16, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    All hail John Hurt

    by palimpsest

    If you want an oddball portraying on screen, you call Mr Hurt: Mr Ollivander in the first HARRY POTTER, the bald space Rupert Murdoch in CONTACT, Quentin Crisp in THE NAKED CIVIL SERVANT, Merrick in ELEPHANT MAN, gravelly voiceovers from THE BLACK CAULDRON to PERFUME. Hurt's the man. He drove past me once, on the set of MEMPHIS BELLE (his partner at the time was working on the movie). A bunch of us stood there, pointing and shouting "It's John Fucking Hurt!" as he drove past, smiling and waving rather majestically. Top fella.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Well the good news is that by the second week of DK

    by Jonah Echo

    regardless of greatness, backlash will have kicked in, and X-Files will be there for all the sobbing geeks to run to.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    We need a good Viking movie

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Beowulf was pretty good, The 13th Warrior had promise and from what I hear that Pathfinder thing was junk. So we're due. Vikings really are the neglected group in cinema.<p>Jebus I'm tired today. Coffee ran out hours ago.<p>What happened with the mock 2012 script?

  • July 16, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    I dont know. He has done his share of b-movie stuff though. Forgot about Monolith from the 90s, with Louis Gosset Jr. and Bill Paxton. And long, long ago in The Ghoul with Peter Cushing. And his voicework is awesome. He was in both old and new iterations of Watership Down.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I have no doubt I'll like X-files 2

    by just pillow talk

    I liked the first one.<p>I'm such an easy movie whore to please. I should be a studio plant. Seriously.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    HOD, I still have it at home..

    by Jonah Echo

    I can repost some of what I have here..I had just gotten to offer up a mock of Michael Bay..

  • July 16, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I love the 13th Warrior

    by just pillow talk

    Pathfinder was indeed dinosaur poopie.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Now let's go get that Inglorius Bastards TB...

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    X-FILES is doing the right thing

    by palimpsest

    There's no point competing for publicity with THE DARK KNIGHT. Expect a trailer with the Batman and Chris Carter hoping for the best...

  • July 16, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    When do we get a viking film... about a viking.

    by antonphd

    why is hollywood afraid of a straight up tale about a viking? there's the Gerard Butler Beowulf and Grendel, but that wasn't made by hollywood. i want a 150 million viking film about a viking. and not in 3d cgi. dirty. bloody. sex. violence.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Hurt? He's on wife number 4 now.

    by palimpsest

    The old rogue. Though I agree with you about his POTTER casting - they could have saved him for something more delicious.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    nope...none

    by just pillow talk

    I much prefer 13th warrior.<p>Limbs hacked off alone does not make the movie watchable for me.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    I am sorry..but I didnt like Pathfinder much either. I really wanted to. And I liked the original film, Pathfinder, the foreign flick. But this one, not so much.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Fred always confuse Hurt with Malcolm McDowell

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred not know why. Maybe Fred have facial dyslexia.

  • July 16, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Rent ye Kirk Douglas in THE VIKINGS

    by palimpsest

    A glorious movie.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Fred actually in outhouse now - and soon to be in doghouse

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred's boss not too happy with Fred these days - seems Fred's attention has been slipping a tad. Fred wonder if TB's have anything to do wth it? Nah! <p> Fred going to see Batman tonight Fred give details tomorrow.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Think of how spoiler free X-files will be

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I have seen the trailers and that is it. I will check out after HB2, TDK. I didn't think the first one was that bad. I just wished they had shown the aliens a little more. Forgot about the caveman fight at the first of the movie. Grunt. Grunt. Hisssss! Grunt!

  • July 16, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    caveman fight was awesome..

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 16, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    X-Files movie will be a good time I think..

    by Jonah Echo

    and at best, it will be a good creepy horror story. Which I hope it is, as we haven't had a good horror all summer long. Midnight Meat Train is coming soon, but I dont have much hope for that. The director of Versus and Final Wars isn't exactly a master of suspense.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Will the alien mythology continue?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Or will this one be totally different from the first? I haven't heard a thing. I know they are keeping it under wraps sort of, but I don't know if that is good or bad.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    predator meets the 13th warrior?

    by palewook

  • July 16, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Wait until I get home DGD

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Hard to post here at work. Once home I can crank out more. Glad to hear the X-Files will be stand alone. That has to give the writers a better chance at hitting the start, middle and end with out having to worry about setting things up for a sequel. Still would be better if Mulder and Scully discovered the wonderful and amazing story of Rawhead Rex and his ravenous maw.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    The 13th Warrior had one of the best shot scenes ever

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    When Banderas is sitting at the campfire listening to the Vikings speak and he begins picking up on their language until he can speak it was brilliant. As good a scene as Scorsese, Spielberg or Capolla ever directed.<p>Danny, I'll check out Pathfinder per your comment. What the heck. I sat through Failure to Launch, how can anything be any worse?

  • July 16, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    And sometimes non-stop butt whooping

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Is all a guy needs, especially on a Saturday afternoon with a fridge full of Corona.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    DGBG - Noah's Ark

    by spud mcspud

    I'll get right on that. Script'll be ready maybe in a month or two. Will by the end of September be okay for ya?<P> Don't bother with payment, just mail me Megan Fox. Plus custard. Yeeeeaaaaah.<P> And I hope John Hurt gets a scene where someone says, "Wise elder! you're bleeding!". And Hurt, badass that he is, turns and mutters, "I aint got time to bleed." :D

  • July 16, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Rawhead Rex

    by spud mcspud

    "Kill him! Kill der fucker!"<P> That Irish priest and his potty mouth. One of the funniest (and most amateur) 80s schlock horror movies I ever saw - fucking LOVED it! Reminds me of the classic CELLAR DWELLER too.<P> Now we need a proper remake of GHOULIES. Charles Band and the Chiodo Brothers (bring back Officer Mooney! KILLER KLOWNS 2: CARNIVAL BOOGALOO!) need to come back and get to make big budget movies. THAT would be the shee-it.<P> Anyway - OUTLANDER. I am so there, with Skittles on.

  • July 16, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    mr_sinister7381

    by spud mcspud

    Robot Jox. Arena. Cellar Dweller. Rawhead Rex. Shitty small-town video (NOT fucking DVD either - VIDEO!) store. Endless summer holidays.<P> I'm lost in orgasmic nostalgic glee right now. I ain't leaving the house til I finish my double creature feature of TROLL and TERROR VISION. The 80s fucking ROCKED!!!

  • July 16, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Spud

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    You should have been here earlier. We were giving nods to everything from Q the winged serpent, Rawhead Rex of course, The Devil's Gift, The Unnameable, The Kindred, etc, etc.<p>

  • July 16, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Rex on ebay

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    There are a couple of VHS copies and a mint condition DVD for about seven bucks on ebay. There is also a comic for Rawhead Rex vs. the Nightbreed. I don't know what to say about that.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    looks good

    by chipps

    i'm also jerking off over pitt in a tarantino movie. well, not really but hey.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Chitty Chitty

    by spud mcspud

    OMG! I had the poster of KINDRED (UK title) in my room as a kid! Loved that cheesy painted squid bastard. Film was good too.<P> Other movies I saw because of the cover, and they were so shit they were actually legendarily GREAT:<P> Jack Frost (NOT the Keaton one - the ice-based serial killer one). Cellar Dweller. THE WRAITH (which was so, so great - Charlie Sheen ROCKS). Robot Jox. Eliminators (Mandroid and Ninja. MANDROID, for fuck's sake!!!). Starchaser - The Legend of Orin. The Lamp. Society (still the greatest Yuzna movie EVER, and the best work Screaming Mad George EVER did). Troll. Terror Vision. The Creeps. Puppet Master. The Monster Squad. Ghoulies. Critters.<P> Shame there's barely anything these days keeping up that grand tradition. James Gunn's SLITHER hit it square on, and epics that take-it-seriously-even-though-you-KNOW-the-makers-and-cast-know-how-stupid-it-all-is such as DARKNESS FALLS, JEEPERS CREEPERS and THEY deserve warm mentions as the little movies that tried. But we really need the Chiodo Brothers, Charles Band, Sean S Cunningham, Entertainment in Video, Dino De Laurentiis, Cannon AND Golan-Globus to even BEGIN to resurrect the cheesy majesty of the small-town video store epics of the great and mighty 1980s. Hell, I wish movies these days had that sense of balanced self-awareness and good humour. Too much post-modern "irony" (that barely qualifies under the name), seriousness around inherently silly subjects (I'm talking about YOU, Nolan and Bale) and a complete lack of originality are killing these kinds of movies. I mean, Michael Bay and Platinum Dunes are killing our beloved schlock-horror genre stone cold dead! Have you seen that abortion, THE FOG? FUUUUUUCCKKKK!!!!<P> Two things will console me tonight: I have, but haven't yet watched, Q: THE WINGED SERPENT - on aged 1980s ex-rental VHS, no less - and will devote the weekend to that movie plus Corona. Secondly, that this treasured sub-genre will never die. Not while quailty dreck like OUTLANDER is released for us to lap up like the rabid fanboys (and girls. GIRLS!) that we are. I cannot wait.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Does anyone know how close...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Predator came to being a B-movie? They had Jean-Claude Van Damme running around in a rubber suit! Just think how close that was to us talking about it the same we talk about some these B-Flicks. I repeat Van Damme in a rubber suit. That girl they captured could have taken him out.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah

    by spud mcspud

    Saw the screen test for the one-eyes weird-as-fuck red suit PREDATOR on the special edition extras. Weird as hell, and completely unscary. And has Winston not sat next to Cameron on a plane, with James Cameron saying "You know, I've always wanted to see something with mandibles", we might never have gotten the pinnacle of 1980s badass action/sci-fi awesomeness that is PREDATOR. I love movies like that: they have no agenda other than to kick ass. How fucking amazing was THAT movie?<P> The second one? Eeeehhh, not so much...

  • July 16, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Spud, don't forget Fright Night

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Loved that one. Actually saw it the same weekend as Back to the Future I think. The car in the Wraith was actually a concept car made by Dodge. Can you imagine how many fan boys would have bought those? It would have been second only to the Delorean in sci-fi cars. Well except for ChittyChittyBangBang of course.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Fright Night, I LOVED that!

    by spud mcspud

    And even loved the sequel - it's impossible not to completely love Traci Lin in that movie, the great Brian Thompson (From COBRA to JOE DIRT!!!) as a familiar to Napoleon Dynamite's Uncle Rico as a werewolf, even FRIGHT NIGHT 2 was fun. And as for the Wraith... the opening sequence, with the lightning bolts racing along highways, melting roadside signs on the way, exploding together to create that AWESOME Dodge... even though the movie made NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, that movie is a fabourite of mine, just for the opening sequence. I heard that car was actually a one-of-a-kind Dodge pace car used for NASCAR... did I hear wrong?<P> And yes- had that concept car been produced, I'd STILL be driving it. Wearing a Wraith suit.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Where are the boobies?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It seems like every good 80's flick had at least one shot of a woman in full frontal. If you ask me that and the practical effects gore they used to use is what was so great. CGI cannot replace the wonderful bucket of corn syrup and red dye. If the bean counters would get their heads out of their asses, then they would realize how little budget they would need to do these movies again. Just please no more remakes.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Fright Night 2

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I actually jumped twice in that movie.<p> Once where the girl tells him that the dog doesn't like him and he says it's cool he doesn't like him either. All of the sudden he turns around very quick and has mutated to scare it. I jumped then and when he looks down the long staircase and the female bat flies up.<p> Also had the driver eating bugs after he said their scientific name. When he got killed he spilled out the bugs. Good times!

  • July 16, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Oh exactly!

    by spud mcspud

    FROM BEYOND is the great indicator of that: gratuitous boobage and many terrifying, extremely stomach-churning scenes of gore - most so gory you don't actually KNOW what you're meant to repelled by - but that was the greatness of Stuart Gordon, Brian Yuzna, and their favourite actor Jeffrey Combs. You know Peter Jackson digs these schlock-horrors, because when Combs appears in THE FRIGHTENERS I literally cheered. In a late night Friday night showing, in the UK. Un-fucking-thinkable.<P> And yes - remakes are the spawn of the devil. I watched every single Freddy Krueger movie from 4 onwards at the cinema - and the thought of an Elm St movie sans Englund, Craven or Langenkamp is completely fucking incomprehensible to me. Without them, there is no Elm St. Despite what Michael Bay's insatiable wallet might think.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:51 p.m. CST

    i wonder

    by chipps

    how much this movie will try to incorporate itself into viking history ie the causes of them moving southward. in 709 they hadnt started to do that yet.

  • July 16, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    From Beyond was Lovecraft

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Didn't know that, but it rocks. Oh well, time to go gym and then home. Will sign back on later tonight.

  • July 16, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ!

    by Turd Furgusen

    No, really, he played Jesus Christ.<p> It looks pretty cool. I like the concept.<p> Just pray Hollywood doesn't start pumping out a whole genre of (Future Other World meets Old Earth Past) movies.<p> You know it's going to happen.

  • July 16, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Outlander is looking very nice, hope the story matches

    by pipergates

    Good actors, nice designwork, very cool concept. If this one works it just might help Marvel's Thor a great deal.

  • July 16, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    the beast really matches the dragonships

    by pipergates

    this tale might not be so unrealistic after all,

  • July 16, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    low do i see my father

    by chipps

    nice

  • July 16, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Love it, but...

    by daroru

    Agree with previous posters about "From one of the producers..." tagline - something they'd say in a craphouse spoof. But my favourite line was... "There IS no gods"

  • July 16, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    S'alright...nothing to sneeze at

    by Shub-Wankalot

    vikings and spacemen and space monster...er, yeah

  • July 16, 2008, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • July 16, 2008, 9:26 p.m. CST

    At this point I'm so desperate for originality...

    by rbatty024

    that anything that's not a remake or sequel gets my seal of approval. Thank the non-existent gods that at least one original script made it through the studios.

  • July 16, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    I'm still not connected to this movie in way.

    by The Outlander

    This could be really good. The more I see of it the more I like it. Bring on the 1080p QT trailer, please.

  • July 16, 2008, 9:58 p.m. CST

    this movie

    by Gungan Slayer

    damn, i remember when I first heard about this years ago, and I thought to myself...WTF. i can't wait, this movie is going to be fucking hilarious.

  • July 16, 2008, 10 p.m. CST

    Gungan Slayer, great name

    by Bricktops hammer

    Fuck Jar Jar

  • July 16, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST

    John McTiernan

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Seems the guy took a break after the shitfest that was the Rollerball remake but he's got 3 movies in the pipe right now so maybe he can resurrect himself. Danny, you forgot to list The Thomas Crown Affair under McTiernan's resume. I don't care what the haters say, that movie was awesome. Brosnan's best role next to The Matador.<p>This little group we have going is the best thing to ever happen to AICN. We can take any TB and make it number one with worthwhile chat.<p>Harry and Mori need to throw any and all shit subjects at us and we'll rule that bitch.

  • July 16, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Vampire Jamacian Samurais Vs Aliens!!!

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    ... - thats what I want to see

  • July 17, 2008, 1:26 a.m. CST

    NORSE BY NORSEWEST

    by Dijjot

    remake?

  • July 17, 2008, 2:26 a.m. CST

    The Lost Vikings 2 ? Amiga Fever!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Cool!

  • July 17, 2008, 2:27 a.m. CST

    "From one of the guys....

    by Bootskin

    ..who used to bring Peter Jackson his sammitches a few years ago..."

  • July 17, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Best Alien rip-off ever

    by pearlanddean

    Forbidden World (aka Mutant) by Roger Corman. All the space footage was stolen from Battle Beyond the Stars, you get a smoking hot Jane Badler, gratuitous sex and a humungous alien. Best part? The scientist professor type cuts out his own cancerous liver to feed to the beasty which then subsequently combusts in a geyser of goo. Still not available on DVD :-(

  • July 17, 2008, 3:22 a.m. CST

    kapow!, Latvia douze points

    by Holgi65

    check out the love-meter at imdb for this... 9,5! Latvians must love it.

  • July 17, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    pearlanddean

    by spud mcspud

    Oh SHIT! Forbidden World is AKA MUTANT? I have MUTANT on another cheesy 1980s old VHS tape - never seen it yet - and you KNOW I'm gonna team that up with Q - THE WINGED SERPENT this weekend. Ah, 1980s schlock-fest - I cannot wait.<P> Oh, and Jane Badler is teh hotness. Easily the best reason to keep rewatching V, over and over again...

  • July 17, 2008, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by spud mcspud

    With you on THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR - I had a serious man-crush on Brosnan due to that flick! Man, I SO wanted to be THAT cool when I get to his age. Even better than GOLDENEYE (which is still my favourite Bond movie. No, I won't apologise for that :D).<P> Was ROLLERBALL really that bad? I did finally get to see it, after reading years of absolutely evil reviews of it (not ONE good one), so I was really expecting a Godawful movie when I saw it. But, with the exception of Chris Klein (who was fine in the movie, but looks too clean-cut and nicey-nicey to be the badass James Caan was) the cast were good (Rebecca Romijn in leather!!!) and the action was okay. Hey, I did have a fever when I saw it, but it was watchable - I wouldn't buy it on DVD or anything, but certainly not the shitfest I expected.<P> But yeah - Brosnan's the man. He can even star in chick-shite like MAMMA MIA! and come out smeeling of roses. He definitely the man.

  • July 17, 2008, 5:57 a.m. CST

    OUTLANDER II: THE QUICKENING!

    by spud mcspud

    There should be only one. Unless it turns out great, in which case replace John hurt with Sean Connery, get Russell Mulcahy to direct it, and COMPLETELY fuck up the backstory until the sequel is unrecognisable. Make Caviezel completely ineffectual in the second movie, and put Virginia Madsen in there JUST BECAUSE SHE IS HOT.<P> Even then OUTLANDER II: THE QUICKENING won't be a fraction as bad as HIGHLANDER II. NOTHING could be that bad...

  • July 17, 2008, 5:58 a.m. CST

    CONAN THE ASTRONAUT

    by spud mcspud

    I could do this all day...

  • July 17, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST

    kickass!

    by ironic_name

    cav=supes

  • July 17, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Highlander vs. Outlander

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    This time there can be only one, and we really mean it this time for sure until some guy screws with the script, and messes up continuity because we can make a few extra bucks on a lesser sequel/tv show.

  • July 17, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    13th warrior campfire scenes

    by Kizeesh

    It amazies me to this day that 90% of people somehow didn't realise, despite the several changes in daylight angles, the weather and the continual shots of them riding horses over different continents interspaced between all the bits of him picking up the language that most talkbackers remember it as a single scene.<p> Seriously, call yourselves movie fans? learn to understand basic cinema first. Then open your mouths. It's supposed to happen over several months of overland travel from fucking Arabia to the Netherlands. Morons.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Spuds...

    by Jonah Echo

    you know your schlock. You mentioned Eliminators...mandroids..ninjas..AND cavemen. How do you go wrong? <p> And you mentioned Mutant. Nice. <p> Have you seen Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things? Highway to Hell? Endless Descent? The Guardian? The Pit? The Willies? The Cellar? Basket Case? DefCon 4? Spacehunter in Forbidden Zone? Wizards of the Lost Kingdom?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Kizeesh

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    If I didn't indicate otherwise, I understand the scene takes place over a prolonged stretch of time. I just happen to think it's one of the best "montage" scenes ever put to film. I don't remember much else about the movie, but that scene is burned into my skull and I was applauding inside when Banderas reveals that he understands them. Brilliant filmmaking.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Let's keep this moving..

    by Jonah Echo

    A new Batman just released...A Terminator trailer hit the net..and we have Outlander as the ALMOST number one talkback. <p> Well, as expected Michael Sragow panned Batman here in Baltimore. It's all good though. He gave Fantastic Four a good review when it came out.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Other interesting schlock..

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Trancers 1-5

    by Jonah Echo

    All hail Jack Deth.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    The Stuff

    by Jonah Echo

    mmm...the stuff...

  • July 17, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Evilspeak

    by Jonah Echo

    does anyone recall this? anyone?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Saturday the 14th?

    by Jonah Echo

    I think, sadly, there were two of these..

  • July 17, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Transylvania 6500

    by Jonah Echo

    with Gina Davis as a lady vampire. I have fond memories of this one.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Arcade..

    by Jonah Echo

    with Seth Green and lame virtual reality.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Nightmares

    by Jonah Echo

    The anthology that featured: <p> a variation on the backseat killer legend. <p> Emilio Estevez as a kid who plays too many arcade games. <p> Lance Henrickson as a faithless preacher who battles a big black car cross country. <p> one where the dad from Mr. Boogedy has to save his family from an ENORMOUS rat. <p> ANYONE see this?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Nomads..

    by Jonah Echo

    with wierd spirit thingees and Pierce Brosnan.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Ed and his Dead Mother

    by Jonah Echo

    with Steve Buscemi and Ned Beatty trying to kill Steve's zombie mother, to collect insurance. Recall the mother running down the street with a fork and a knife chasing a dog. <p> HAPPY PEOPLE LIVE FOREVER, HAPPY PEOPLE NEVER DIE!"

  • July 17, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Humourless fucking assholes

    by Lost Jarv

    Vikings in space= hilarious shlock. <P>What the fuck is wrong with some of you lot?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    The Time Guardian..

    by Jonah Echo

    with Carrie Fisher and a Terminator ripoff for a story.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Brotherhood of the Wolf

    by Lost Jarv

    is fucking great. Seriously. <P>Monica Belluci= Undercover vatican hooker. What's not to like? <P>Martial arts, incomprehensible plot, cheesy fucking acting (stupid hairy fish story leaps to mind), bizarre incest subplot, bonesword cum chain thingy. It's great.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    RETURN OF THE B-MOVIE TALKBACK

    by Lost Jarv

    BITCHES!!!!! <P>I love these.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Netherworld

    by Jonah Echo

    with a cheesy killer hand thingee and wierd Clive Barker-ish stuff in New Orleans.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Wild Thing!

    by Jonah Echo

    With the crazy, feral street vigilante. Anyone see this?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    It's Alive 3: Island of the Alive

    by Jonah Echo

    Title alone=gold.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Ticks aka Infested

    by Jonah Echo

    Seth Green again, with giant ticks, later forming one massive Uber-tick.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    The Nest

    by Jonah Echo

    with mutant cockroaches that add to their dna, anything they bite or kill.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Crawlers

    by Jonah Echo

    One of the worst movies ever, with killer weeds. Oh no!

  • July 17, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Slugs

    by Jonah Echo

    nastiest scene, lady chopping lettuce with slug embedded in center.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Never saw Kindred

    by Lost Jarv

    The cover traumatised me when I was a kid. The tagline was something daft like "Not brother and sister, but something else".

  • July 17, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Horror at Part Beach

    by Jonah Echo

    how can one not mention it?

  • July 17, 2008, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Slugs is utter crap

    by Lost Jarv

    I felt let down by that. Badly. <P>Alligator is fucking great. <P>BBC2 used to run this great cult movie programme called Moviedrome. Alex Cox (dude that directed Repo Man) would pitch up and introduce a double bill of some of his favourite cult movies. I saw so many fucking classics (Death Race 2000, Alligator, The Warriors, Videodrome- to name a few) when I was young because of this epic programme. There was no thematic sense to his picks- he just put on 2 films that he liked. But his intros were legendary<P>I wish they would bring it back. It was fucking great.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    I only saw Brotherhood of the Wolf once

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I need to check it out again. I think I was expecting the second coming when I saw it and was only moderately impressed.<p>My B-movie knowledge is lacking outside of stuff from the 50s and 60s so I can't contribute much here if that's our course. I saw my share of schlock in the 80s but only saw the majority those films once so I don't remember much.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Gothic

    by Jonah Echo

    which always had a creepy cover, imitating old paintings.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Breeders

    by Lost Jarv

    Starring Samantha Janus about an alien that want's to shag hot college students. <P>Terrible and not in a good way. The cover had a picture of Ms. Janus getting a seeing to from the Alien on it, but sadly the film never lived up to this.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Rollerball remake

    by Lost Jarv

    un-fucking-forgivable. <P>Mctiernan needs to be beaten to within an inch of his life for that.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    whip out the 50s ans sixties stuff HOD...it's all good

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Jack Frost

    by Lost Jarv

    crap. There is actually a Jack Frost 2. Which looks like a marked improvement. <P>The best thing about Jack Frost was the holographic cover that morphed from good to evil snowman and made kids cry. <P>Brilliant.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Medicine Man?

    by Lost Jarv

    That horrid shit with Sean Connery as jungle doctor curing cancer who loses his fucking formula. Wretched.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    greatest title ever:

    by Lost Jarv

    Class of Nuke 'Em High 3: The Good, The Bad and The subhumanoid.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Matango

    by Jonah Echo

    Giving the Mushroom people their shoutout again.

  • July 17, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    If we go Connery...Outland

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Children shouldn't play....

    by Lost Jarv

    Fabulous. As is the Pit. <P>I recently tried to watch Children of The Corn 4. It was not good. Not good at all.

  • July 17, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    Outland= genius.

    by Lost Jarv

    On this note- I vaguely remember Saturn 5, but for the life of me can't remember if it was good. I seem to remember some dude plugging things into his head though.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Circuitry man

    by Lost Jarv

    I rewatched this, and it really comes across as a poor combinition of Barbarella and Hellraiser.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    B-movie TB tops the charts again

    by Lost Jarv

    We really are fucking good at this. <P>On a more intellectual note- have you seen Baise Moi? it's fairly notorious here, but should be avoided. <P>Because it's crap.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Rollerball

    by The Octagoner

    My old writing mentor wrote the screenplay for the original, as well as the short story it was based on, "Roller Ball Murder." Great story by William Harrison. The remake is maybe the most glaring example I've ever seen of a bunch of people who didn't seem to give a shit that they were supposed to be making a movie.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Any of you like Criterion fCollection stuff?

    by Jonah Echo

    Because over at Deep Discount right now, they have a buy one get one free, which makes them mostly 15 or 16 dollars a piece, from the usual 25 or 35. It's www.deepdiscount.com and the shipping is free. I'm planning on picking up The Vanishing and Brazil.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    If we are still talking b-movies

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Anyone remember the Car? This black Lincoln terrorizing a small desert community? Love it when it runs through that guy's house. Never let's up either.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Can't for Basketcase either

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I never looked at a basket with handles the same way again. That thing was creepy and funny at the same time. Reminded me of that little carnival beast on the X-Files. Little things like that freak me the fuck out.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Outland has aged very well

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Great movie and waiting for the arrival of the assassins had me ripping off the armrests as a kid.<p>Medicine Man disappointed the hell out of me. I remember walking out of a movie and seeing the large standup with Connery and Brasco and as seeing this was way pre-internet I hadn't heard anything about it but I saw the names McTiernan and Connery and blew my load in my empty popcorn bucket. One of my all time great disappointments.<p>My b-movie knowledge is mostly narrowed down to stuff like Deadly Mantis, The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, When Worlds Collide, Forbidden Planet, It Came From Beneath the Sea, Earth vs. the Flying Saucers, you know, the usual suspects.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Criterion has cleaned me out

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Needless to say I bought all the Kurosawa stuff, picked up Brazil and got Hard Boiled and Robocop way back when Criterion was the only one putting them out.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Danny

    by just pillow talk

    Donnie Yen fight scenes cannot be said in the same breath as anything in Pathfinder. You are probably right (I've only seen two Donnie Yen movies so far) about his movies having bad storylines, but I think Kill Zone's wasn't bad. I'm down with mayhem and no story per se, but Pathfinder didn't work for me.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    The Car is a classic movie

    by just pillow talk

    The movie scared me as a kid.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Other evil automotive flicks

    by Jonah Echo

    Wheels of Terror. <p> Trucks. <p> The Wraith. <p> Christine. <p> Killdozer <p> Maximum Overdrive <p> Duel <p> Joyride <p> Lance Henrickson portion of Nightmares.

  • July 17, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    The original Car was not a Hybrid

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Can you imagine if they remade it?<p> A dark and foggy night...two hitchhikers amble along the side of the road at least 10 miles away from the nearest spot of civilization.<p> Cut to the shot of a tire motionless. All of the sudden it starts moving slowly along. No sound but the crush of gravel beneath rubber engineered for peak mileage and bone-crushing ability.<p> Cut to the hitchhikers who all of the sudden fill with an overwhelming sense of dread. A quick glance over their shoulders reveals nothing but a strange glow coming over the hill.<p> Pow! The roar of four tiny pistons springs to life, as evil has decided to ditch economy mode and summons both gas and electricity for a fatal leap onto the backs of the hapless kids.<p> Scene flashed between faces in headlights and economy dash display.<p> Words come onto the screen:<p> The Car Hybrid: Green is the new color of Death! Never has their been a more efficient killer...50 souls to the gallon.

  • July 17, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    there instead of their...sorry

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

  • July 17, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Fred saw Dark Knight in IMAX last night

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Short Review: It better than Daredevil. Longer review: Fred had to pee. Not because Fred lost control of bladder function because movie was great - and it is. But because Fred got to Fred's seat hour and fifteen minutes before showtime, and Fred's friend was late, so Fred had to hang on to both seats facing dire threats from from people wanting the choice seats Fred picked out for IMAX. Fred had industrial size cup of coke and popcorn too. Fred's friend finally showed up 5 minutes before showtime. Too late for Fred to pee. So Fred not get to pee until 10:00 PM. Fred had not seen so many men backed up in line to pee since the last football game Fred went too! Ita long movie! And Ok, onto review: <p> It best movie of summer. Ledger is fantastic. From the very first time he appears on screen, you can tell he did something wonderful with the role. He inhabits the role. The movie is very entertaining and even the bigger is better did not fail in this one. There are plot holes, and some are larger than Fred expected in such a movie. They do not deter from enjoyment though. But on other hand they do emphasize that as great a summer movie as it is, it is still a superhero action movie that at time plays fast with the plot. Eckhart does great job, but Fred found the turn into two-face not quite as believeable as the movie tried to make it. Maggie, well, she not bad, she not make you forget Katie either. Problem with Maggie is that IMAX does her no favors. She is an average to plain woman, with a very good body. And while Fred try not to be superficial, her face tends to distract at times - at least in IMAX. That nitpicky though, and Fred almost ashamed to write that, because Maggie is a gifted actress. Bale is good, but his Batman voice at times is very irritating. This is not his movie though - which is strange for a Batman movie. But thems the facts. Freeman and Caine get some funny stuff, with Freeman getting the second biggest laugh of movie. The Nolans once again hammer home a theme. And while admirable that they are going for a coherent them in a comic book movie, they get a bit heavy handed, and just expect that it will be accepted because the say so - and not because the script was wriotten well enough to make it so. Don't get Fred wrong, there are great moments throughout the film when it all works, but occassionally... All that being said, it is a great flick. Very funny at times. Dark and suspenseful. Fred not love ending - it plot driven and has flaws Fred mentioned above, but still all in all it worthy to be mentioned as finest superhero movie ever. Fred not yet put it there - Fred needs to think some more on it. But it damn close.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    OUTLAND WAS THE TITS

    by redfist

    Sean Connery in a kind of High Noon Rip off, good sci-fi and it has aged very well, agreed. This looks like meh.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Outland was Hyam's best movie

    by Jonah Echo

    Though I have soft spots for 2010 and The Relic.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Anyone see the steaming pile that was Spookies?

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Good review Fred...I'm seeing it tonight

    by Jonah Echo

    at midnight right after watching Batman Begins, which I havent watched since 2005.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    That was a spoiler free review. Fred not give away anything other than you should pee first

  • July 17, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    KnightRiders anyone?

    by Jonah Echo

    That one with Ed Harris and the gladiator bikers? I always liked that. <p> How about Hideaway with Jeff Goldblum and Jeremy Sisto, where the killer comes back from hell and is linked to a man who died and picked up some entity on his way through the afterlife? That was a nutsy movie.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Fred doesnt even come close..

    by Jonah Echo

    to spoiling anything. Unlike some other major reviews both here and in the major press. Roger Ebert's review particularly seemed to be playing fast and loose with potential twists, as did the local critic here, Sragow who STRONGLY hinted at something I didn't want to know.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Danny, that is the Car..

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Danny

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That was The Car. Classic.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred only give Fred's opinion, but that is the way Fred saw it.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Favorite End of Days scene

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    When the devil takes physical form for the first time and walks through the restaurant. He just reaches down kisses that chick and rubs her jubbly in front of everyone, including her man. Hardcore pimp right there. I always wanted to do that.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    How bout Night Life with John Astin

    by Jonah Echo

    and Scott Grimes, which ends up being a doofy, but not unwatchable little zombie movie. <p> Fun fact is that Astin lives and teaches here in Baltimore at Johns Hopkins. And adorable nut if there has ever been one, and a great addition to schlock. <p> The Frighteners. The Killer Tomatoes epics. Addam's Family. Brisco County Jr. Mr. Boogedy. and a stint where he was Riddler twice on the 60s Batman, I guess when Frank Gorshin wasnt playing him.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Anybody seen Richie?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    I'm gonna keep coming back until someone REMEMBERS seeing Richie!

  • July 17, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Any Cujo love out there?

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    How about bad Stephen King movies - ok, that punch line. But Misery was great! So was Carrie.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Favorite The Car scene..

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Beside the drive though of poor bastard's house obviously...But it was when car chases kids and women into a graveyard/churchyard. The Car won't go in and just sits at the gate snorting its pipes and spinning out. I used to pull up to my ex-girlfriend's house and do the same thing. She would walk calmly out the front door and get in. I suspect her mom and dad worried. Alot.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I like when that lady gypsy screams...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    And shoots a hole in that guy's hand with a slingshot. Reminds me of my little brother when I gave him his first wristrocket. Good times.<p> Yes, that Mantegna scene had me rolling, partly because I don't know if the director was tryuing to be serious or where they drunk when they filmed it. Either way comedy gold.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    bad stevie king

    by Jonah Echo

    is the whole Children of the Corn series. Yes, the original was watchable, but not great and everything after-goodnight! <p> I really hated Thinner.But Mantegna was nuts in it. <p> Maximum Overdrive is unintentionally funny. <p> The Dark Half is rather bland. <p> Needful Things WASTED Sydow as the Devil. That is a true CRIME. <p> Sleepwalkers had so much potential but was hardly better than "meh", despite my rooting for it seriously hard when it came out. <p> Pet Semetary 2: ugh. <p> Langoliers-gag. <p> Rose Red-yawn. <p> Desperation- hahahahaha! <p> Tommyknockers-eh. <p> Lawnmower Man-WTF? <p> The Mangler-never speak it's name again. <p> Secret Window-what do you get when you have crap but then add a BIG star? Crap with a star! <p> Return to Salems Lot-why? <p> Sometimes They Comeback-but sometimes they shouldnt. <p> The Devil's Gift-NOOOOOO!!!

  • July 17, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    loved Fright Night

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    The first encounter with Charlie after his mother invites the Sarandon into the house. When he gets up and says 'Hi Charlie.' The look on Charlie's face is priceless. How that movie didn't get more love from the masses i will never understand.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Have the Stand on DVD

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It's my all-time favortite King book and the series wasn't too bad for a TV production. But if you are going to read the book, get the uncut edition. It is worth it alone just for a character named The Kid. That guy was batshit insane. So dissapointed he wasn't in the tv version. My all-time favorite King character.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Good Stephen King

    by Jonah Echo

    My top 10 adaptations are: 1. The Shawshank Redemption 2. The Mist 3. Stand By Me 4. The Green Mile 5. The Shining 6. The Stand 7. Carrie 8. Christine 9. Salem's Lot 10. The Night Flier

  • July 17, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    'Brewster, you're so cool!"

    by Jonah Echo

    Stephen Geoffreys. Did FN, 976 Evil and Moon 44 and then relegated himself to gay porn. <p> Anyone recall Vamp?

  • July 17, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    It was funny when Charlie

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Called him pencil dick. Shit I forgot about 976-EVIL.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Danny don't forget...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It was also the best use of Crowded House's Don't Dream It's Over when Fran and nerd are sitting in the house and realize how bad things are due to the superflu.

  • July 17, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    You forgot It

    by Lost Jarv

    One of the biggest piles ever, although not as bad as the Tommyshitters. <P>And worse than that you forgot the fucking masterpiece that is MISERY. <P>Holy fucking shit- THE BATES in full fat psycho mode- james caan in varying degrees of pain. <P>Fucking awesome. <P>Anyhoo, off home to watch humanoids of the deep. See you tomorrow.

  • July 17, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    The DVD was some gold edition

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It has the whole mini series on one side. Amazing. I also like it when Nick tells Mother Abigail that he doesn't believe in God and she laughs and says it's ok because God believes in him. I'm not very religious, but that was cool scene. I could talk about that mini-series the rest of the day. M-O-O-N, that spells the rest of the day!

  • July 17, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    and now I think about it

    by Lost Jarv

    Misery has a lot to answer for, really seeing as it is arguably nascent Torture Porn. Which I don't like.

  • July 17, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Jonah, hey man

    by Bricktops hammer

    Good list, both the bad and good. Didn't like The Stand tv series (except for the opening tracking shot of the hospital) though, just my opinion. I thought The Mist was pretty damn good. Still not sure how I feel about the added ending...Ilove how the story is written where it kind of leaves it up to you

  • July 17, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Vamp? Sounds familiar

    by Bricktops hammer

  • July 17, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Vamp? Sounds familiar

    by Bricktops hammer

  • July 17, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Misery prank

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    A buddy and I went see Misery at the theater. Remember the scene where he is groggy and the lightning flashes and pops and it shows The Bates face suddenly. My friend was waiting for this and he let out a scream that would wake Hitchcock up. You could see buckets of popcorn flying in the air and hear other people start screaming. It was a blast.

  • July 17, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Loved Richard Farnsworth in Misery

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Always liked him as an actor. Wish he would gotten that Oscar for The Straight Story. I read somewhere that never uttered a curse word throughout his career, which he started as a stunt man.

  • July 17, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Richard Farnsworth and Wilford Brimley

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Which is your favorite old coot?

  • July 17, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Forgot Misery. Bump Night Flier off the list.

    by Jonah Echo

    I think Misery is a sick, and unsettling film, but it ain't torture porn at all. It was a thoughtful movie, far more so than King's gorier and grislier novel.

  • July 17, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I have to go with Farnsworth

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Although you have to give Brimley props as being a bodyguard to Howard Hughes. That and knowing the right way to pronounce diabetes. Farnsworth really came through in the characters he portrayed. I just simply enjoyed watching him work.

  • July 17, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    That's what it had on wiki

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I was about to dive further into that fact and research more. It may have been to protect other people from Hughes and not the other way around. Sort of like Sonny Landham on the set of Predator. The dvd extras said he bodyguards to protect the other actors from him. Although the image of Brimley elbowing a path through a crowd for Hughes is gold. They should have done a buddy movie together. Think about the adventures they could have.

  • July 17, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Hughes and Brimley

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Hughes: "Willford, come here quick!"<p> Brimley barrels through the wall, ignoring the door..<p> Brimley (wiping the sheetrock dust from his broad shoulders):"Yessir Mr. Hughes. What can I do for you?"<p> Hughes: "I want you to listen very carefully...Go down and pick up every hooker you can find that weighs exactly 111 pounds, stands five feet even and has true blonde hair. Then go up and get the Spruce Goose gassed and ready. We are heading back over Hepburn's house."<p> Brimley:"Do you want me to bring the soap, scrub brushes and condoms again?"<P> Hughes:"Oh these aren't for me my boy. I told Hepburn that it would rain live hookers tonight and I am a man of my word."<p> Brimley (who no longer finds any of this strange): "What color did you say for the hair?"<p> Hughes:"Blonde, yes blonde. Yes, very blonde. Blonde..."<p> Brimley (shakes Hughes back to his senses): "Sir I got it, we'll be ready by midnight."<p> Hughes:"Well done, Brimley. Well done."

  • July 17, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    I just think Brimley topped Fansworth

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Just on the sheer image of his hairy maw gaped open and consuming the boar in a grotesque display of grunts and belches. I bet mothers started looking for their children while this was happening...

  • July 17, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Fred now scared of Wilford Brimley

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Thank your for ruining my childhood! Tee Hee

  • July 17, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Chitty...that Hughes and Brimley scene..

    by Jonah Echo

    was brilliant...raining live hookers..

  • July 17, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    YES!!

    by SlickyVonBoner

    That looks sweet! Finally a non-sequel original movie. About time HollyFuckinWood! Or is this based on a book, old-TV-show, japanese film?

  • July 17, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    O.K. Here's some fodder for you...

    by Jonah Echo

    a snippet of Michael Sragow's Dark Knight review. <p> The Dark Knight is a handsome, accomplished piece of work, but it drove me from absorption to excruciation within 20 minutes, and then it went on for two hours more. It's the standard-bearer for the school of comic-book movies that confuses pompousness with seriousness and popular mechanics for drama. It's scaled to be an urban epic about the deterioration of hope and possibility in Batman's hometown, Gotham City (standing in for all Western cities), but there isn't a single stirring or inspired moment in it. <p> Nolan's use of incessant tension music and gun-to-the-head jeopardy cheapens even the classiest bits. True believers may buy into the gloom and doom of The Dark Knight, but many of us will ask, with the Joker, "Why so serious?" <p> And this is the same guy who gave 3 star reviews to Semi Pro, Fantastic Four and a 2 star review to There Will Be Blood.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    ever see the spoof they did of Wilf on Ben Stiller Show

    by Jonah Echo

    "And I like to fill my pants with hot steaming oats and run around the countryside, howling at the moon."

  • July 17, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    I'll put this guy in a perspective that you specifically can understand..He gave this a C and Idiana Jones and the KOTCS a B+ and called the nuke scene an "instant classic". I kid you not.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    DK might infact not be awesome..

    by Jonah Echo

    but this guy won't be the one to be able to say I told you so. He gave the first one a C as well. In fact I said to my wife last night with no sense of surprise, Watch Sragow is going to give it a C and call it turgid. It's what he does with everything. The Fall, which I love, got a D- from Sragow. And Forbidden Kingdom got a B+.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Hmmm..

    by Jonah Echo

    that does beg an interesting question. Is Sragow being pompous, or is he part of a legitimate group that won't like this movie for being too serious and not fanciful enough? <p> My old roomate didnt like the "realistic" approach and wanted more Burton stuff. <p> Me I was glad to get beyond Burton(while liking the work he did on it) for this particular franchise. <p> I guess we will have to see.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    not to suggest

    by Jonah Echo

    that Danny you won't like it just because it isnt burton or fantastic, but rather that it really can be broken down into a taste or preference issue. Unless of course you disliked it for wholly other reasons.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Jonah Echo

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred understands what reveiwer means, but Fred not agree. Movie starts out magnificently, but as Fred mentioned earlier, some of those plot holes and the Nolans heavy handed - at times, emphasis on driving home their theme, tend to distract. It is not the second coming, but it is damn good. This movie will cause the fecal matter to hit the propeller though. You will see people proclaiming it as best movie ever and others saying 'whoa now lil pony, ease up there on the best of all time hoss, it aint all that and a bag of crackers' and the flame wars will be on. Fred enjoyed it. Fred would pay to see it again(although Fred got in free last night). And that for Fred is the highest compliment Fred can give a film.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Danny

    by Jonah Echo

    Some of that was Sragow's complaint(the Lucius Fox character made Batman seem less ingenious to him and more dependent on someone else). But mostly it was the fact he thought it was slow and draggy. He really hates serious takes on things, to the point that he panned Eastern Promises, Assasination of Jesse James, and There Will Be Blood and yet found it in himself to give Shrek 3 4 stars and Charlotte's Web 4 stars.

  • July 17, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    How did we fall behind the terminator

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Danny, I agree with the concept..

    by Jonah Echo

    though Sragow dismissed the Water Horse and Millions as twaddle. I mean he picks the safe children's films. Shrek 3 and Charlotte's Web were neither of them something to really write home about. <p> For example, I think that plenty of dark serious films don't deserve the accolades. In fact it was only this year that I felt No Country and TWBB actually were worth their salt. But neither of them holds an emotional candle to Babe: Pig in the City and I truly mean that.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    every time I post, it actually deducts us a post..treachery!

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Anyway..how bout we get back to the shlock..

    by Jonah Echo

    Best Doug Mcclure movie anyone?

  • July 17, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Speaking of spoofing...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I can't remember what show it was or what comediain. But they did a skit of the 7-up guy (Punjab from Annie the movie I think).<p> "I like to sit naked in a tub of chili and drink...ahhh...7-Up."<p> And I laughed and laughed.<p> We're only behind by 10 or so posts. I can bring this thing back by myself with just the adventures of Hughes and Brimley.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    The thing with Hughes..is Im picturing a

    by Jonah Echo

    drunken Leo Dicaprio taking the now-muppet like Brimley with him in a cgi seqeuence that sees thousands of digitally duplicated hookers rained down upon Cate Blanchette's house.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    how were we just at 291 posts and three posts later its 290..wat

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Hughes and Brimley

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Flash forward to Hepburn answering the phone...<p> Hepburn: "Yes, Oh hi darling! Marvelous, marvelous! Yes, midnight? I'll wave your favorite pink scarf hi from atop my balconey to signal my approval you knight in shining armor!"<p> Hughes:"Pilot to bombardier, pilot to bombardier!"<p> Brimley:"Roger!"<p> Hughes:"We're coming on target. Open the bay and get ready to release cargo!"<p> Brimley:"Aye cap'n."<p> With that exchange, excactly 111 hookers standing five-feet even and weighing exactly 111 pounds began to tremble as their naturally blonde hair starts whipping voilently in the now open cargo bay. Their legs are covered by involuntary bursts of fear-inducing diarrhea and unrine. Brimley gives a slight grin and rubs two fingers through his mustache. Then the screaming starts...<p> Brimley opens his mighty meathooks disguised as arms and begans herding the 111 hookers that weigh 111 pounds and stand five feet even.<p> Hepburn is taking her first sip of her White Russian made with pure goat's milk and exactly two ounces of vodka poured half an ounce over the period of two minutes (Hughes taught her that), when she hears the first thud.<p> Hepburn:"Hahaahaaaa! Come to Hepburn! Coooome to Hepburn!"<p> She fails to hear the screaming as she throws her head back and stands on her tiptoes as she trembles with a wet, orgasmic rush.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    ok..seriously,,,something is up..now we are at 280?

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    remember Wilford's jaw extending in The Thing?

    by Jonah Echo

    it will be just like that...ok...time to go back to my b-movie revue.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Brimley facts...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    His eye glasses allow him to peer into your soul and if you dare get close enough to him you will see his mustache is actually made up of indavidual pit vipers.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Cyborg 2 with Angelina Jolie and Jack Palance..

    by Jonah Echo

    To dance with the devil you need a long spoon!

  • July 17, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Bone Daddy

    by Jonah Echo

    another Rutger Hauer dream project. Not so good.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    jonah, that's posts over the last 24 hours

    by just pillow talk

    to this thread. A thread will only stay in the "Top Talkbacks" if it has one of the top postings over the last 24 hours. Total posts do not factor into that display.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Creep

    by Jonah Echo

    A recent and rather effective movie that pits Franke Potente against a mutant subway freak. Pretty good, but no Mimic.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    JPT

    by Jonah Echo

    right pillow...but it's changed that drastically in the last ten minutes.. seems odd.. oh well.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    One flew right into the Cuckoo Nest

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Starring Gary Busey. Nurse Ratchett played Gary Busey in drag. Chief played by Sonny Landham.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Terror Within

    by Jonah Echo

    with Andrew Stevens and genetic mutants that like to sleep with women.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    The Curse

    by Jonah Echo

    with good ol meaty Claude Akins as a farmer who has a meteorite land on his property, contaminate the water and make you not only go crazy, but physically deteriorate. Wil Wheaton was also in this crap.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    it could absolutely if someone posted a bunch in a row

    by just pillow talk

    and then nothing for an hour or so. And then post a bunch again.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    it's been know to happen...

    by just pillow talk

  • July 17, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Silver Bullet

    by Jonah Echo

    starring those poster boys for Just say no Gary Busey and Corey Haim. Werewolf actually taking angry mob member's bat and beating him to death with it was a highlight. And Everett Mcgill with an eye patch.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    known I should say

    by just pillow talk

    it also helps to have morons like myself not being able to type very well.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The Lift

    by Jonah Echo

    about a killer elevator.It was awful.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Danny, I think there was..

    by Jonah Echo

    there certainly was in the sequel..

  • July 17, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Visitors

    by Jonah Echo

    with Rhada Mitchell and sea spiders that cause hallucinations. Not great, mostly "Whaaa??"

  • July 17, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Silver Bullet

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That bat was called the peacemaker. I remember that scene. Haim had the fastest wheelchair in the history of mankind. Given to him by the coolest uncle in cinema history (drum roll please) Gary Busey!

  • July 17, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    The Sleeping Car

    by Jonah Echo

    an attempt to create another horror icon like Freddie. This time a rotted thing called The Mister. didn't work.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Screamers

    by Jonah Echo

    Peter Weller vs. the autonomous mobile sword. I always sort of liked this one.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    The Visitor

    by Jonah Echo

    this one had John Huston, space aliens and the devil. Oh my!

  • July 17, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Everett McGill was also in...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    The People under the Stairs. Loved it when the people bonded with the kid who let them out. Awwwww. Seeing McGill dressed in leather and firing that shotgun. Wow.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    The Guyver with Mark Hamill..

    by Jonah Echo

    what a piece of crap.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    This wasn't really a monster but...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Orca with Richard Harris. I saw this one on TV. Critics slammed it, but I thought it to be fairly decent.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Same way you try with a toy monkey

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It wasn't. They must have been grasping at straws with ideas. Either that or they had too many shrooms...

  • July 17, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Has anyone brought up...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Night of the Lupus? Killer rabbits.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Has Skynet hacked into here?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Now it is saying back at 278 posts.

  • July 17, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Tentacles the movie

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    About an octopus that goes on a rampage. Wasn't very scary.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Tentacles the Movie otherwise known as Cloverfield the ninja

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Monster - cause he is never seen. Guys check out the watchmen trailer, It is great.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Once Jaws hit it big...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Every studio started banging out the creature features. Sort of like the new influx of comic movies now that they are showing box office muscle. That Watchmen trailer looks fairly impressive, but I won't be able to hear it until I get to my computer at home.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Regarding Batman's refusal to kill

    by toadkillerdog

    Batman's code, while admirable in a comic book - 40 years ago, is truly a very vain stance. While not being hypocritical, it is still a vanity that Batman has that he uses to separate himself from those he fights - his self-appointed, and illegal fight. One could argue that his constant chasing and apprehension of villains, and their subsequent escape and further murders, especially with regards to the Joker, who commits murders to draw out the Batman, continue solely because of this vanity, and not due to any stronger moral compass.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Vibes

    by Jonah Echo

    with the wierdo combo of Cyndi Lauper and Jeff Goldblum investigating a psychic tibeitan temple. One scene has Jeff Goldblum channeling one of the villain's goon's father. <p> "I dont know if this means anything to you, but.."Get your sister's head out of the toilet before I crack your a** the other way."

  • July 17, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Whoops put that in the wrong TB

    by toadkillerdog

    I will move it over to the Beaks review

  • July 17, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    It Came from Beneath the Sea

    by Jonah Echo

    is my octopus movie of choice, but I guess it's actually a sextopus(yea, this sounds like it's own b movie) since Harryhausen found that giving the monster two less tentacles actually signifcantly cheapened the budget and made it easier to manipulate in the scene.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Hello Jonah. I actually enjoyed Vibes

    by toadkillerdog

    I loved Goldblum in Into the Night. Ok, that is not a B movie, but still underrated.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Toadkiller..

    by Jonah Echo

    I see where you are coming from Batman wise..if I want to delve into anything, it's to explore that aspect more. I dont want him to start killing, but I want to see his buttons pushed. But I don't want anyone telling me either way if that happens. <p> I liked Vibes, though it's ending was lame. Also, Into the Night needs to have a back to back viewing with After Hours for maximum fun.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Purple People Eater..

    by Jonah Echo

    not a horror but a wierd tribute to 50s music with Neil Patrick Harris and a muppet and Little Richard.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    The Creeping Flesh

    by Jonah Echo

    always had a soft spot for this one. Used to watch it often on channel 54 as a kid even though it always creeped me out.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    City Beneath the Sea - great cheesy movie

    by toadkillerdog

    And, really any Irwin Allen production. Voyage to the Bottom of the sea -the TV show, had the Seaview battling giant monster every other week!

  • July 17, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    how's it going toad?

    by just pillow talk

  • July 17, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    The Gate

    by Jonah Echo

    Stephen Dorff and little goblins coming out of a pit from hell. Nice stop motion, a fun vibe and the confirmation that 80s rock played backwards can summon the devil.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    My Science Project

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Loved this one..had ancient warriors, dinosaur, time travel and Dennis Hopper I believe.<p> Also had a guy that could hit a button in his car and a neon finger would shoot up and flip people off behind him. Classic.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Good call on City...Warlords of Atlantis

    by Jonah Echo

    with the great Doug McClure, a giant octo-beast, a plesiosaur, and massive amounts of scantily clad women, bearded men and giant beasts.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Cameron's Closet

    by Jonah Echo

    Pretty terrible if I recall correctly, but there was a monster hiding out in Cameron's closet.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    At the Earth's Core!

    by just pillow talk

  • July 17, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Don't Be Afraid of the Dark

    by Jonah Echo

    Where little monsters hiding in a house wanted to drag Kim Darby down to the underworld and make her one of them. They called out from behind the furnace to her. A t.v. movie from the 70s. Good stuff.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Mr. Frost

    by Jonah Echo

    Another with the incomparable Jeff Goldblum playing a possible vessel for Satan. I sort of liked this one.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Empire of the Ants..

    by Jonah Echo

    so cheesily lovable.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Yes, Vibes fell apart at the end

    by toadkillerdog

    What did you expect from Lauper and Goldblum?

  • July 17, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Gor

    by Jonah Echo

    A real POS fantasy flick that was clearly slopped together. Right there with the Sandahl Bergman version of She.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Millenium

    by Jonah Echo

    not the Henrickson show, but the Kris Kristofferson junky 90s flick. It had it's moments of cheese.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Hola Pillow

    by toadkillerdog

    It goes very well. Just back from a vacation. I will be checking out TDK tomorrow.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    The Lost Continent

    by Jonah Echo

    this was a wierd, wierd Hammer film I think. Really liked it. That whole lost world concept with some out of the ordinary surreal moments. Quite worth a watch.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Lair of the White Worm

    by Jonah Echo

    wierd..and not very good.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Man's Best Friend

    by Jonah Echo

    cyborg dog and Lance Henrickson. And Ally Sheedy. I blame her for the suckage.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    The Alienator

    by Jonah Echo

    oh yes, let the good times roll.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Hello Danny. Did anyone get banned while I was gone

    by toadkillerdog

    I came back just in time to see TDK.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Android?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Was this one where the space crew lands on a ship. The ship has an android played by the guy that kicked Swayze's gost ass off the subway. It showed tits as well.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    American Gothic

    by Jonah Echo

    not the tv show. The schlocky movie with Rod Steiger as a patriarch of a screwed up family on an island that starts slaughtering the teens who come there.

  • July 17, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Android was funny..Wasn't Don Opper in that?

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN

    by Jonah Echo

    Seriously, if you loved RoboCop, and love B-movies, then immediately ADD this to your netflix queue. Danny, if you haven't seen this, you must. <p> Plot: Peter Weller lives in a brownstone apartment with his wife Shannon Tweed(nudity there) and she and his son go out of town and leave him working on an important business deal. Then a big rat(not unnaturally large, but big) comes in and starts actually antagonizing him. Eventually it's a battle of wits between Weller and the rat, with Weller eventually going primal to stop this thing from tearing apart his life. BRILLIANT. Not just a b movie, but a plain great movie. Best rat pic ever.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    yea Danny...that was HOBOCODE

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Evolver

    by Jonah Echo

    a crappy flick with a game bot that evolves through levels as you defeat it. But the problem is it wants to KEEEEL you.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Goliath Awaits

    by Jonah Echo

    Was Mark Harmon in this..I don't know, but it was another underwater horror flick thing. Again, not good.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    The Unborn

    by Jonah Echo

    another evil kids in the womb flick. sigh.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Better rat movie than Willard?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    When Ernest Borgnine says 'no Willard, no'<p> Willard: "Tear him up!"<p> Good Stuff.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Strays

    by Jonah Echo

    Timothy Busfield and I kid you not, a pack of feral cats. That's it. Just feral cats.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Chitty..

    by Jonah Echo

    FAR better than Willard. Seriously, if you even remotely think we have similar tastes, trust my rec and get this movie. Of Unknown Origin. I don't want to ruin it, but you must see the epic battle of man vs. rat. It's an absolute gem.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Kingdom of the Spiders

    by Jonah Echo

    thank goodness for saturday creature features.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Gorgo

    by Jonah Echo

    I always liked this Godzilla-esque flick. A fun time and reccomended if you like giant monsters.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Better rat movie than Ben?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Boy befriends leader of vicious pack of Rats. It had an honest-to-God Oscar nomination! For best Original Song! I can't make this stuff up.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Reptilicus

    by Jonah Echo

    best premise ever. Scientists find a giant tail in Denmark. So the tail grows a new body and attacks the city. The tail GROWS a new body.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Ben, I liked, but yes..

    by Jonah Echo

    and it's a better rat movie than:

  • July 17, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    the post apocalyptic italian Rats

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Rodentz

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Food of the Gods

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    better than Gnaw: Food of the Gods 2

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    and way better than Ratboy

    by Jonah Echo

  • July 17, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Strays!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Shit I forgot about that! We were watching tv outside one night for college football (Can't smoke in the house, so only thing we wanted to was watch football. Hence tv came outside). After the games Strays came on. We laughed so hard one guy puked. I mean I've fought my cat before and he got a few shots in, but I was able to pin him down. That guy was really pussy-whipped (pun intended).

  • July 17, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    SEE OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN..

    by Jonah Echo

    seriously, Weller on the steps of his house in the shadows wearing shin guards and waiting quietly with a baseball bat that has nails and pieces of a bear trap jammed into the end of it is priceless. Especially when his work colleague stop by to see him and she slowly backs away, out of his house,per his request.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Danny

    by Jonah Echo

    I dont own all the schlock Ive seen. Very little of the stuff I mentioned do I own. I own the stuff I really like. I've got close to 400 dvds I'd say. Too many for my wife's estimation, but not as many as some on this site I expect.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    What about Graveyard shift?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Wasn't that a rat...Wait it was a gaint bat. Nevermind. But aren't bats just rats with wings. Kind of like pigeons? It did have a guy killing rats with a wristrocket and empty soda cans.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Graveyard Shift was horrible..

    by Jonah Echo

    and I think that creature was a bat/rat hybrid thing. Stunk.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    That does it!

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I've seeing Of Unknown Origin! It's sounds like John Candy and Dan Akroyd vs. the bat in the Great Outdoors, but serious.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    there was also another b horror called Graveyard Shift

    by Jonah Echo

    involving a vampire. It wasnt very good, but inspird a sequel. Inspired might be the wrong word.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    In fact, Id love if a group of us agree to see Unknown Origin an

    by Jonah Echo

    then report back here. I havent seen it in a while, so I welcome the chance to pull it down off the shelf and take a look at it.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    It deserves it's day in the sun much more

    by Jonah Echo

    than many of the things we have mentioned here.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Monkey Shines

    by Jonah Echo

    I always liked this flick. Quadrapalegic man with crazy pet helper monkey.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Link

    by Jonah Echo

    with an ourangatan and Elizabeth Shue. Did I even spell that right?

  • July 17, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Shakma

    by Jonah Echo

    A piece of crap with a role playing club, a killer baboon(baboons are scary, see Creepshow) and Roddy McDowell.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Primal Force

    by Jonah Echo

    with Ron Perlam vs. baboons. What a schlocker. So much fun. but baad baad fun.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Terror Train

    by Jonah Echo

    with some wierd bigfootish thing on board.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Congo

    by Jonah Echo

    dear Lord, Congo.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    O.k. compadres..

    by Jonah Echo

    I depart to go home, have dinner with the wife and some friends, drink some Yuengling, watch Batman Begins on the projector and then head off to the Senator to see Dark Knight at midnight. I'll be back with a spoiler-free review then. Have fun all. Keep the talback burning. GO OUTLANDER!!

  • July 17, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Danny..

    by Jonah Echo

    I liked Congo. My "dear lord, Congo" was an expression of affection.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    I've watched Batman Begins...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    about 7,841 times in the past few days on FX. It's even coming on again tonight.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    See ya Jonah

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Have fun.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Congo

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    We used to make fun of Amiee the ape that had the arm band that allowed her sign language to be translated.<P> "Amiee hungry, get ass in gear to get food!"<p> "Amiee horny, get me banana!"<p> That laser gun at the end was badass.

  • July 17, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Favorite Creepshow chapter

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Easy...The Raft. Amazing.

  • July 17, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Creepshow - Fluffy

    by toadkillerdog

    Fluffy was great! I do not recall the name of the vignette though. I also liked E.G. Marshalls take with the roaches. Any other mutant roach movies out there besides kaiju?

  • July 17, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Indian Joe

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Laughed hardest when he said he couldn't wait to get to Hollywood, because the girls couldn't wait to run his hair between their legs. WTF? I mean it was a pretty impressive head of hair, but c'mon...

  • July 17, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Indian Joe

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Forgot that Goerge Kennedy was the store owner! I just remember his wife getting shot and him screaming her name and getting shot himself. That was pretty fucking sad. Glad that wooden Indian went to town on those bastards. I need to rewatch these.

  • July 17, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Geez, that Watchman talkback...

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Really showed this one its taillights. snuck up on me.

  • July 17, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    i saw 13th warrior a little drunk

    by chipps

    and i kept going FUCK Yeah woohoo! (not out loud) the great bring it lines invoking family and warfare. cheering on the battles. it started a tradition, now i have a beer or two before almost every movie i watch. plus it was funny when banderus got his curved sword

  • July 17, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    gabriel byrne as the devil

    by chipps

    fucks your wife and your daughter. evil evil evil

  • July 17, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Secret Window

    by chipps

    mumma's little boy likes short bread short bread, mumma's little boy likes short baked bread.

  • July 17, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    here is bruce willis looking like.....

    by chipps

    bruce willis!, now a wig and he looks like...bruce willis! bung on a canadian accent and it's.....hang on.....bruce willis! who is that over there? oh, its val kilmer. wrong movie.....and there goes bruce willis.

  • July 17, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    now i graduate

    by chipps

    have a nice day and for those yet to see it, enjoy the dark night.

  • July 17, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    the lost vikings

    by Dijjot

    is the dragon supposed to be tomator? so is the cynical asshole erik or baleog?

  • July 17, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    LOVING THIS TALKBACK!!!

    by spud mcspud

    Jonah - Only movie I saw from your list is BASKET CASE, which I love (creepy AND gory - gross!). I'll be hunting the rest down at a car boot sale soon. Jarv'll understand - or do they do car boot sales south of Watford? We Midlanders do everything different :D<P> DGDB - Gotta have love for HUDSON HAWK though - I'd watch ten sequels to that. Willis is cool as fuck, and Danny Aiello has never been that cool since either. They pre-empted love for swing music way before Robbie Fucking Williams and Boyzone rehashed and flooged that dead horse, for sure. And everyone in it was batshit insane. Most under-rated Willis movie EVER...

  • July 17, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    CREEPSHOW 2!!!

    by spud mcspud

    Easily my favourite segement is THE HITCHHIKER - watching that zombie hitch-hiker get more progressively fucked up by that increasingly psycho bitch is the funniest fucking thing! My mate and I get together every Hallowe'en, watch something new, then get out CREEPSHOW 2 and EVIL DEAD 2 for shits and giggles. Never fucking fails to get me ROFL. Then we toast the coming Christmas season and get blind stinking drunk.<P> But yeah, the hitch-hiker... and did anyone elsev kind of fancvy that heartless bitch? No?<P> Ah. Just me then...

  • July 17, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by spud mcspud

    If you're talking about that furry Tasmanian devil thing that eats people, the vignette was called THE CRATE.<P> Every single part of the first CREEPSHOW gave me nightmares for fucking weeks after I first saw it, aged 12. That was back in the day, when showing your 12 year old kid didn't get half of Social Services and every other busybody fucker in the UK Government on your back for some perceived slight. Fuck political correctness and fuck this country.

  • July 17, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Jonah

    by spud mcspud

    Have fun, dude. Enjoy your TDK - I'm hoping to be blown away by it, but expect yet more over-the-top seriousness and intensity from Bale (including that fucking stupid voice), way too much realism for a Batman movie (Shouldn't a city with the word GOTH in the title be a bit, well, GOTHIC?!?!?), Heath Ledger walking off with the movie, and Michael Caine as the most miscast Alfred Pennyworth in the history of Batman. Not to mention Freeman as Basil Exposition, Gary Oldman as Mister Underused and Chris Nolan as "the greatest Batman director ever BUT HE CAN'T SHOOT ACTION FOR SHIT!".<P> Sorry. Ignore my bitter rantings, I'm sure it'll be great. But now I've seen the new trailer, 2009 belongs...<P> TO ZACK SNYDER! WATCH THE WATCHMEN!!!

  • July 17, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Spud

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Try Pumpkinhead next Halloween. Stan Winston directed it. Yes, Basketcase was fucked up. So was the Raft in Creepshow 2. That was my favorite in those series.

  • July 17, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Got the jackal dvd free

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    With a dvd player I bought. I laughed hardest at Ricard Gere's accent.<p> "Aye, the Jackals after 'im aye? Tell 'im to geet hees a-fars in urder."<p> Nice.

  • July 17, 2008, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, I just saw Brotherhood of the Wolf

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    for the first time two days ago. That movie was whacked. I loved it. Colonial era martials arts, etc. I feel a lot was lost on me and other yanks. It didn't come out and say it but it appeared the final scene was set on Bastille Day. The whole thing was dubbed in English, my version anyway. If I were French I would look on it from a different perspective, but man it was great.

  • July 18, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    From the top

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm obviously going to split these into individual posts to keep the count high

  • July 18, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Misery isn't TP

    by Lost Jarv

    I watched it again last night for the first time in ages and stand corrected. <P>None of the current hacks could do something as epic as misery.

  • July 18, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST

    I agree about light hearted films sometimes being

    by Lost Jarv

    better than overwrought oscar bait- especially as I seem to be the only person in the world that isn't head over heels for No Country.

  • July 18, 2008, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Creep

    by Lost Jarv

    Appaling garbage. Truly, truly fucking awful and a waste of the fine Ms Potente. <P>Creep fucks me off so much for 2 reasons- the stupid tooling around in the sewer shit at the very beginning that effectively robs the tension from the rest of the film, and the fact that it just degenerates into a complete fucking mess when she steps off the tube. The fact that they show extended scenes of torture and nastiness do not excuse the massive deflate of tension. Which, to be fair, was handled excellently. <P>And I reckon I could take the creep and I can't fight sleep. <P>Famke's best film is, and always will be, the awesome Lola Rennat.

  • July 18, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST

    There's a lot of crappy Lou Diamond efforts out

    by Lost Jarv

    there and I'm ashamed to say I've seen almost all of them.

  • July 18, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Red Water, for example

    by Lost Jarv

    shocking. And yet strangely compelling. <P>Or THe First Power. <P>Dreadful stuff.

  • July 18, 2008, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Stuff, Hidden, and Dead Heat

    by Lost Jarv

    are all also great. <P>

  • July 18, 2008, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Good to see the love for BOTW

    by Lost Jarv

    Seriously, Psychic naked undercover Vatican Whore. Played by Monica Belluci. <P>That makes me happy in the pants.

  • July 18, 2008, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Car Boot sale

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm sorry, but you northen proles can swap your tat for pennies. <P>I shall regale the company later with tales of your deprivation, and O how we shall laugh!

  • July 18, 2008, 4:22 a.m. CST

    That shall do for a while

    by Lost Jarv

  • July 18, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight

    by Jonah Echo

    Ok. Really tired right now, but off to get my car emissions tested. Briefly, The Dark Knight. It is really, really good. It might be the best movie of the year so far(IMO this summer has already given us some equally fantastic films-Fall, Wall-E, and in a different but no less viable way, Hellboy 2). It is a vast improvement over BB. But it only goes for more realism, not less. I think the less you know the better you will be. Ledger is excellent because a) he is unrecognizable and b) he adds both the familiar of the Joker and the brand new unique to his repertoire. <p> Gordon get's more screentime and Oldman continues to give a good understated performance that doesn't draw attention to itself. I thought the action scenes were far better, though there is still that sense of chaos. <p> It is a great movie, but the hyperbole is ill suited for a movie like this. It takes it time to develop itself, and not everything is greeted with giant fanfare. This will be looked upon as a classic. Also, it is very much like a crime movie,but for those who say it isn't like a comic book superhero movie, that's not right either. It still feels like a comic book, in a good way. <p> And the ending to me proved that they do understand the ethos of Batman better than anyone who has handled the character except for those Animated Series guys. <p> I'm seeing this again on Sunday and I'm quite looking forward to it. It is in no way a disappointment. For those bothered by Bale's voice as Bats, it's even worse here, so be warned.

  • July 18, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Brotherhood of the Wolf is fucking great

    by just pillow talk

    The sheer craziness of the setting with the monster with martial arts dudes...and yes...<p>Monica Bellucci.<p>Let's all say that again fellas...sweet, sweet, sweet Monica Bellucci.

  • July 18, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    you people would love the O.L.E.G. thread in the zone

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/5qgjhv

  • July 18, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    we have knockoff bmovies one has my man caviezel

    by ironic_name

    as a werewolf police officer! <P> http://tinyurl.com/68uyfm

  • July 18, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    trejo, lou eric fucking roberts and wesley

    by ironic_name

    and jean claude!

  • July 18, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    I always wanted a Brotherhood spin off

    by Lost Jarv

    about undercover vatican whore/ assasin Monica Belucci. <P>Obviously there would be violence and nekkidness aplenty!

  • July 18, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    wotcha pillows.

    by Lost Jarv

    Still keeping the faith. <P>BTW Ebonic referenced our 2true master in one of the DK threads. <P>Truly, the CoC is a pervasive influence.

  • July 18, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    praise the almighty CoC!

    by just pillow talk

    The sphere of influence is unmatched.<p>BTW, watched Millions last night. That's a nice little film, and the boys did a good job in it. I really loved it when the older brother had his "pickup" and his own secret service boys trailed him.

  • July 18, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Is this the cool kids' thread now?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    If so, what the hell am I doing here?<p>Anyway, hello all. I finally got up the nerve to watch Definitely, Maybe the other day, and I have to confess it was actually pretty good. A little sappy for my taste, and I did get some sick on my shirt when Reynolds said "The happy ending was you!", but otherwise a decent little film. Good on you, JPT, you have not steered me wrong yet.

  • July 18, 2008, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Also, we got our tickets for The Dark Knight today

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Next Thursday at 11am, I get to discover whether I am diving into to the deep, deep pool of hyperbole or if I'm going to sit off at the side, grumbling slightly about it being too serious, and maybe having a beer or two.

  • July 18, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    I'm in on Friday

    by Lost Jarv

    Have bought sofa thing for me and missus at Everyman in Hampstead. <P>Already booked holiday.

  • July 18, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Franklin...

    by Jonah Echo

    Saw DK last night. It is a great movie. I think hyperbole comes from the fact that this quality and level of storytelling rarely ever happens in this genre. However, it is a serious, sometimes somber(but not humorless or joyless as some have suggested) film and that might not be what you want from Batman. In my mind, this summer has covered all the superhero bases. If you see this, and think, like the Joker "Why so Serious?" go check out Hellboy 2 and that will feed your need for big, colorful splashy comic book goodness. And Im not berating HB2, in fact, I think both films are on the short list of this year's best movies so far. They are both very different, and IMO DK pulls ahead and establishes itself as something more, but they are both great films and Iron Man is right behind them as one of the better superhero flicks. And then, back there somewhere is The Incredible Hulk which I actually liked quite a bit too. Haven't seen Hancock or Wanted but at this point there is no need. It's really cool that Dark Knight has come at the end of this summer's superhero fanfare because it seems to put the definitive(for now) twist on it. Within a year's time though. we will get to have The Spirit and Watchmen and hopefully watch the medium of superhero story grow in different ways, maybe not up as much as out.

  • July 18, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Why so serious, indeed

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Maybe I'm a snob, but super serious comic book adaptations don't sit right with me. I prefer a comic book film that's "big, colorful splashy comic book goodness" as you say. I'm definitely more excited to see Hellboy 2, but as a guy who's liked Batman since he was a wee kid, I'd be going to see a new Batman film even if it was M. Night Shyamalan's Batman with Night himself playing the villain (The Great Writer) who ultimately teaches Batman that punching people is wrong and writing great writings and whatnot is the way to win people's hearts.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    hey Frankie

    by just pillow talk

    I can't take credit for Definitely, Maybe, Danny Glover recommended it to me.<p>I'm hoping to catch TDK in a mere 2.5 hours from now.<p>And Jonah is right, HB II is a good film too in a not-so-serious way, so it's probably the perfect companion to TDK.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    and my movie combo last night was Millions/Blade II

    by just pillow talk

    only slightly different in content and style. I enjoyed Millions and I forgot how much I liked Blade II. Love the going back and forth between Ron and Wesley.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Enjoy the film, JPT

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It's not out here until next week, so I'm staying clear of the Batman talkbacks until I've seen it. My expectataions aren't sky high, but I've got my fingers crossed it's even a little bit as good as everyone seems to be saying.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    My most recent movie combo

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Was Definitely, Maybe and No Country For Old Men. The idea was that if Definitely, Maybe was unbearably sappy and sentimental, I could at least wash the taste out of my mouth with No Country. Still, it turned out I liked both. No Country was better, though. It was nice to see the Coens back to their best.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I haven't gotten to No Country yet....

    by just pillow talk

    Next up is Spiderwick Chronicles and then Next Stop Wonderland.<p>I'll follow that up with Sunshine and No Country for Old Men.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I think I'm alone in not falling in love with no country

    by Lost Jarv

    My combo tonight is Humanoids of the Deep and Amadeus. <P>A bit of a weird mix to be honest, and I'm kind of hoping the insanely high-brow Oscar winning, Schaffer scripted Amadeus balances out with some nice shlock. Sadly it's the remake though.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Warning about sunshine

    by Lost Jarv

    It is 2/3rds exceptional, but the last act with the Cenobite garbage is messy and confused to say the least.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    yup, it's duly noted and I'm prepared

    by just pillow talk

    for the last third. Let me know about the remake of Humanoids. Unfortunately the original is not available on netflix (drippy whores).

  • July 18, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    You didn't like No Country, Jarv?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Why not? I loved every second of it. It felt so good to watch a film by guys who had the confidence to let their story unfold naturally and not insult the audience by explaining every damn thing.

  • July 18, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    The Drunkening is upon us

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    That's it, Ain't It Cool Friends. It is time to drink deep of the beer, then eat hearty of the kebab. We were going to see Wall E, but the beer won out over the cute robot.<p>Good weekends to all.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    beer > robots

    by just pillow talk

    unless you had a robot to serve you beer, then that would be pretty sweet.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I didn't hate it, and I don't think it was "meh"

    by Lost Jarv

    It just didn't grab me. But I did have a hangover, so that may explain it.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Hey!

    by Lost Jarv

    bastard, how come you're getting out at 4. <P>Mind you, I'm out of here in about 5 mins. <P>Truly, I shall consume of the waters of the Liffey before seeking sustenance in some of the unclean parts of an animal.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST

    not sure have ever heard consuming an adult beverage

    by just pillow talk

    quite that way before...

  • July 18, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    I certainly love my summer hours on some Fridays...

    by just pillow talk

    A mere half hour before I make the trek to my local theater for some TDK action.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    It's an urban myth

    by Lost Jarv

    Guinnes is allegedly made from the waters of the Liffey. It isn't <P>And Kebabs are allegedly made of all the minging bits of the animal. They aren't. <P>I fail badly when trying to be poetic.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Off

    by Lost Jarv

    have a good weekend chaps.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    I totally agree with the Sunshine critique. The damn thing just fell apart in the last third.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    and our English breathen have started the weekend

    by just pillow talk

    T-minus 15 minutes and I'm gone as well. Unfortunately some of my weekend will have to be devoted to my God forsaken summer class.

  • July 18, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    bye-bye thread

    by just pillow talk

    Time to destroy Gotham.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    back to the b-flicks. Scanner Cop

    by Jonah Echo

    the most ridiculous entry in the Scanners series, which by the time they got here, was actually a hard thing to achieve.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Paperhouse

    by Jonah Echo

    actually an effective and odd movie, not so much a b movie. Bernard Rose, director of Candyman and Immortal Beloved directed this, and it's a strange story about a sick girl who meets the boy inside her drawings and realizes he occupies another world, and there is a dark stranger pursuing her through that world. A fine movie. Almost borders on a kid's flick, so much so that despite it's R rating Ebert showed it as his kid's selection at Ebertfest(it had been a while since he had seen it) and then children were crying and upset, as well as some parents.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    The Fear

    by Jonah Echo

    with a wooden dummy, Wes Craven in a cameo, and rampant stupidity. Uggh.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Witchery..

    by Jonah Echo

    the Hoff was in this one I think.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    The Sentinel

    by Jonah Echo

    apartment complex that opens up on Hell...yea, this was a cool one for sure.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Jack's Back

    by Jonah Echo

    James Spader as the yuppie reincarnation of Jack the Ripper

  • July 18, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    What about Dark Night of the Scarecrow?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    One of my alltime favorites. Larry Drake and Charles Durning. Very good flick. Still holds up well today.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Jonah, how was the TDK score?

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    It was getting good reveiws, but I can't listen to samples of it until I get home tonight. The first from Batman Begins wasn't bad at all.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    The Last Starfighter

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    That one was fun. Effects haven't held up well, but story is good.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Chitty..

    by Jonah Echo

    Having watched BB back to back with TDK, I think the significant diff is that the score seems to be more immersive this time, and mostly I noticed the villains cues are filled with some strange little pieces. It's about establishing this really great sense of mood and atmosphere. It might not be one of those scores you just pop in and listen to all the time, but in context of the movie, it's very well done. It underscores the emotion, and like the film itself never reaches too hard for some big "moment". I think elements of this movie surprise because they arrrive with so little fanfare, and the music building as a whole score as the movie continues is good. It's like instead of saying "escalation" every five seconds like "fear" in the first movie, they underscore escalation by allowing the soundtrack and the plot of the film do that for us. Things pile on, and then relax, and then pile on again.

  • July 18, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The first was kind of the same way

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    I have Antrozous and Molossus from the first as they are the best at standing alone (plus they are fun when I'm jogging or working out), but the rest were a little too dependant on the movie if that makes sense. Some scores are instant stand-alone hits, while others sort of need the crutch of the movie to be best appreciated. I have the Batman and Robin soundtrack, so once I saw someone say they used the Smashing Pumpkins in the Watchmen trailer I was able to play it along, as I don't have sound here at work. Funny how that works out sometimes.

  • July 18, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Chitty,yeah Dark Night. That was Drake

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

  • July 18, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Chitty, Dark Night was great. It was Drake's

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    warm up for LA Law. He was so good at playing two mentally challenged characters I thought he was until Darkman. Don't forget the love for the late Lane Smith in Scarecrow.

  • July 18, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Scarecrow love

    by ChittyChittyGangBang

    Really the best part of the movie was the 'Jaws' methos of nor really showing the scarecrow until the end. You knew it was him, but you just didn't see him. Made the reveal at the end all the more creepy. That little girl at the either was on serious meds or snacking on that poppy plant she was making crowns out of. I would have shit my pants and passed out if I saw what she did at the end.