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DiCaprio To Join Pitt In Tarantino’s INGLORIOUS BASTARDS??
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Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio are said to be sought for Quentin Tarantino's World War II epic about an American team of angry, vengeful Jews set loose against Hitler’s minions.
Word is Tarantino wants Pitt for Aldo Raine, the verbose Appalachia native who puts the deadly squad together.
DiCaprio is said to be sought for "Inglorious Bastards'" suave but cunning lead Nazi, The Jew Hunter Hans Landa.
There are loads of other great tough-guy roles in the screenplay, and only time will tell if the long-rumored Schwarzenegger and Stallone and Willis and Sandler and Travolta and Madsen and and Roth and Keitel will find their way into the movie alongside younger actors.
Read all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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Not bad if true...still would be nice to see Willis in this film. Arnie and Sly are better suited for other films since the cast looks younger.
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followed by Ryan Phillepe and Jude Law. The film will then be retitled Inglorious Blonde Bastards
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dicaprio in a QT film?? nah... he's a better class of criminal... er, i mean actor
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One's on NUMB3RS and the other is still banging Stifler's mom if I recall.
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Although when I read the script I was picturing Tim Roth as "The Jew Hunter". Knowing Brad Pitt was the primary choice for Aldo, made me read the script with a very southern Tyler Durden in mind. And damn was it a lot of fun.
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Both of these guys are great actors and in a WWII action packed drama...they will own this film. Harry said the script was amazing so this film has the chance to match PRIVATE RYAN. In a perfect world, this film would have had Arnie and Sly wasting Nazi bastards left and right...but only in a perfect world LOL
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get Clooney and Damon too then. Actually Tarantino and these guys could do something amazing together, and with a concept to die for like this, oh yeah. Still hopes he finds a space for Dolph. He could always be a nazi.
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and have a completely anglo protestant cast playing Jews. Considering that he only just shopped the script around, I think 99% of the casting rumors are pure bullshit.
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I want this movie to be QT's epic - a film that will finally shut the big fat yaps of all the bitchy little fanboys who can't get over the fact that Pulp Fiction 2 never got made. Bring this bad motherfucker on!
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Adam Sandler woulda been better - maybe not the same draw at the box office as Pitt - but he looks like and is a jewish american - and he is a great actor, "punch drunk love" proved it
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First time I've ever heard QT casting rumors that screams, "I need lots of money to shoot this!"
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Look at this way, he'll only need to be in 3 of them until QT picks up an Oscar like Scorsese. 2 if QT splits IB into 2 halves.
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he'll have to touch up on his French and German.
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DiCrapio and Pitt in one film? I'm already in line, duuuude!
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He's a redneck from Down South, but there's a clue that he might be of the tribe.
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Harry says the script is GREAT and I don't doubt it, BUT and this is a BIG fucking BUT, QT knew of the rumors for years regarding this film having one of the ultimate casts: STALLONE, SCHWARZENEGGER, WILLIS with even people like VAN DAMME and EASTWOOD in there. Fast forward today and we are getting a great cast...BUT...it is not the legendary OLDER CAST that we could have had! HOW SAD!
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He was a spaz in that movie, just like every movie he's ever been in. He just held it in check until the story required a freak-out. PDL is PT Anderson's worst film and a travesty of a romantic comedy that is neither romantic nor a comedy. You tell me: where's the conflict in that story? Because in the movie I saw, he pretty much gets the girl right away and there's NEVER a moment's doubt that he'll lose her. So what the fuck was I watching for the rest of the film? That tacked-on phone sex conflict was so ridiculously forced I almost wish Anderson had just done away with it. If you don't have conflict, don't force it artificially. It was the first time I'd ever seen a Deus Ex Machina that CAUSED conflict instead of CURING it. Because otherwise the audience would've fallen asleep. Uck. Horrible, terrible POS movie.
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Tim Roth. The cast is shaping up to be amazing, and I believe in Tarantino, but I'll be disappointed if Roth does have a big role.
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Now that's a title. Wow. Academy Award Nominee Leonardo DiCaprio as The Jew Hunter. I'm not anti-semitic, but that sounds terrific.
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The script is fucking amazing; I couldn't put it down.
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GRINDHOUSE Tarantino and not PULP FICTION Tarantino. Ah, who cares? Movies <<<<<<<< Next Gen Video Games.
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Also, I want to see him be a bad guy. Not just any bad guy, but a Tarantino bad guy! I'm sure the accent will be fine. Go with it!
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not a jew. the jew hunter is an effing evil non jew. it would be pretty interesting to see di caprio play this part. tim wroth would be downright chilling though.
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Jul 15, 2008 11:01:24 PM CDT
Looks like he's going the A-List route
by the guy who slept through everything.
And why does DiCaprio have to be in everything? Every fucking movie it's him and he Beef, I swear.
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I need to chill out and just wait for the damn thing.
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I'm down with him being in a Tarantino film!
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...that there are no roles in this film for Arnie, Sly and Bruce. Having read the script, do you agree? Or is there some roles?
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if you read the script you know that there are zero roles suitable Shwarzenegger, Stallone, or Willis. Sandler could probably make off with one or two of the roles but the three big action guys will be sitting this one out. Believe that shit.
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C'mon. Be credible at least. Aren't there any Jews in Hollywood?
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Like anyone, I was utterly convinced of Tarantino's greatness after Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. But everthing since has been kinda lukewarm for me. I mean, sure I like Kill Bill but it's not in the same masterclass. Not even close. And Death Proof only plays well as part of the double feature, in its shorter incarnation. The stand-alone extended version is nigh unwatchable if you ask me. Anyway, the point is, for the first time in my life I guess I'm starting to doubt ol' QT's greatness. And the big question for me now will be "How does he handle the WWII atmosphere and period?". I can't believe i'm saying this but I don't know if he can pull it off. He'll suceed if it feels like an actual period piece albeit with larger-than-life characters, I'll be sold on that. But we gotta believe that this is really, truly WWII. He has to make some serious decisions to cut back on the trademark QT-ness and make us forget he's behind the camera, an immersive war-time experience. Then we'll know he's got the goods. But if it ends up feeling like another inane QT dialogue chat-fest (ala the longer version of death proof) arbitrarily taking place over a WWII backdrop, it'll totally nuke the fridge on his career, as far as I'm concerned. Come on Quentin, prove me wrong. There's nothing I'd love more than for this one to kick ass.
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There are definitely roles for a younger Arnie, Sly and Bruce. I'm not sure how well they'll fit if Pitt and DiCaprio sign on.
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So no older roles then? Would the role you see for Arnie be German? What about the role you'd see for Sly...is it RAMBO all over again?
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Well that opinion doesn't bode to well for the concerns I expressed above. I haven't read the script though.
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..just for the fun of it
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they should cast morgan freeman as hitler
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i wouldn't say i'm gay for him, but i frequently enjoy his work.
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...Arnold and Stallone as the dream cast. The Basterds are mostly pretty young, though. It's unfortunate that we don't really have those kinds of action stars in today's crop. I couldn't help but think of First Blood era Stallone as the Bear Jew.
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seemed like a more grizzled George Clooney type - a la Dennis Farina. Either Pitt or Di Caprio could make a good Jew Hunter, but Adam Sandler's too old to play the Jewish bastard that beats people to death with a baseball bat (the only role I can really see him being suited for). It would be cool to see a small part for Arnie as a nazi goon, but there's no way he'd even set foot on that ground with some of the shit he's been accused of in the past.
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Left on the rim of Scorsese's toilet bowl.
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FAT BALD OVERRATED QUEEN
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It's unlikely unless the script is that good that these guys fall in love with it. But half the budget would be their salaries so I don't see it happening.
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MY BOY'S NOT FUCKING AROUND
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remember when the death proof script was getting raves - then the movie actually got seen - bleh - and now you can pick it up for 10 bucks at target - hype hype hype - thats what will kill this movie in the end - the glory that was pulp fiction in the 90s might never be matched - but i hope im wrong
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a young Strother Martin type? - Sam Rockwell - too bad most cineplex goers dont know who he is
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Leo as Zoller, not Landa, right?
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and the super mega hit masterpiece it spawned
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wait... never mind
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QT's cameo
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But if he was a bit younger, he would be great for the young German war hero. Also I couldn't not see Sandler as the Bear Jew when reading the script. I'm sure Tarantino had him in mind when writing it. He could be too old for that part now but I'd be willing to suspend disbelief on that one. I find it interesting though that there hasn't been any talk of casting any of the Jewish characters yet (aside from Quentin's early mentions of Sandler of course).
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And I found that I can tolerate Leo a lot more than I used to.
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i assumed Aldo is a jew too - i guess the guy putting the team together doesnt have to be jewish - so its a redneck goy in charge of a bunch angry dangerous jewish american soldiers - this smacks loudly of QT
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I totally thought of Alec Baldwin as Landa while reading the script. Pitt is fine as Raine, but I saw an older man. Bridget Von Hammersmark was of course WRITTEN FOR Uma. AND HICOX FOR Roth. MADSEN will narrate.
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His name is Chuck Norris... Had they sent Chuck Norris, World War II would had been ended sooner and we'll have Hitler's head on some kind of a mausoleum
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He'd be badass in a movie like this.
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i think jews need to give it a rest, we get it the holocaust was bad, you already have enough weaponry to keep killing other nations and propaganda to remind dumbfuck americans of your plight. how about movies about other tragedies like the native american genocide or ukraine famine?
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Stallone AND Willis will appear in this piece of shit movie.And who the fuck cares about WWII scenario no. 6143? Fuck Tarantino, this overrated jerk. I'm out.
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is less plausible than heath coming back to life and filming joker for batman 6.
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Aldo is obviously not Jewish, at least, he is not what most people's idea of a Jewish man is. He is described as a slightly cooky Southern hick, a role which Brad has already shown he is more than capable of. His Jesse James drawl plus a pinch of insanity from that crazy guy he plays in 12 Monkeys is a perfect formula for this character. I have always thought Leonardo Dicaprio would make an interesting villain. He has the charisma and the now piercing stare that has come with age to play the role perfectly. I'm curious about the Shosanna character as well. I personally am gunning for Audrey Tatou, and not just because she is one of the few French actresses more people know. I wouldn't mind seeing an up and coming star take the role either. What about the older daughter in A Series of Unfortunate Events? Is she old enough yet? I saw someone similar to her in my head for some reason.
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Tom Cruise for Aldo!
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but an old Schwarznegger, Stallone and Eastwood sat smoking cigars drinking whiskey and shooting the breeze in a movie together? One last hurrah for the old guard - jesus I'd be there five times over.
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i put both kill bills in a bundle and someone bought them. after i abandoned my ebay account. lol...oh, and am i the only one non plussed with the script? it seems...odd? it fails as a period piece, which apparently is kind of the point, but the characters arent engaging. theyre caricatures. lots of pretty execution with caricatures, and lots of ideas, but no...idk, gravitas?
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Is QT substituting "kike" for the big bad "N" word? And will we all learn to say "Motherfucker" and "Fuck" in Italian, French, German and Yiddish before this is done? Is this gonna be PulpBrownBill...but with pop culture references circa 1944?
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...yeah, right, whatever.
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As much as I agree with Hercules on most everything, I felt the script had a lot of problems. A sagging middle. A lot of non-Bastards stuff (they don't really come front and center til page 84) for a script called "Inglorious Bastards (or however QT decided to spell it.) Hopefully a stellar cast will elevate this to at least Kill Bill standards (which isn't that high...I tried rewatching again the other day, very overindulgent and slow.)Pulp and Dogs still rule the world though.
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so if Quentin cant get a performance out of him, then no one can.
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Jul 16, 2008 4:33:57 AM CDT
I find it funny that there are people who don't like
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Tarantino. The man knows more about world cinema than pretty much everyone(outside Scorcese). The man is channelling pop-culture. Before you blast me down, I suggest you all go and watch more films. Not the latest blockbuster( just kidding, go see Batman) but foreign films from all decades. Perhaps when you have gained some worthwhile film knowledge you will appreciate Tarantino more.
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but of course DiCaprio is partly German. So he should pull it off.
As for suggestions of Sandler being in this... I haven't read the script, is there room for comedians in the Jew-squad? If so, I vote for David Schwimmer (cause I'm watching Friends right now and he's great)
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theres his "worldly film knowledge" any fuck can go and rent a bunch of movies.
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I also want Schwimmer in this movie. He proved in "Uprising" that he can kill Nazis with the best of them and also wear leather jackets.
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Keep that prick away from this film, he's already latched onto Scorsese. Fuck knows what directors see in him, apart from extra cash at the Box Office that is (Scorsese's making far more than he ever did in the De Niro years).DiCaprio's an average actor raised to the status of a star due to his looks. There is no fucking way he should be anywhere near a film like "Inglorious Bastards". Hopefully this turns out to be bullshit.
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I might check Uprising out to see if I can believe Schwimmer in something serious without constantly picturing Dr. Ross Geller.
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I don't think Schwimmer uses a single explosive exhale in "Uprising."
I still think his best performance was DUANE HOPWOOD, even with the explosive exhales (which he used with surgical precision and expertise). If you're looking for some good Schwimmacting, DUANE HOPWOOD is another way to go. And it's like 80 minutes long, so even if you don't like it you probably won't feel like you wasted too much time. -
I like Leo, but even if you don't, the Nazi hero character is exactly the kind of clean cut, smug cocksucker DiCaprio was born to play. Most of the spec casting just seems odd, like there's no place for them here. I suspect the actors we've heard mentioned were for characters from earlier drafts when it was hundreds of pages long and QT was gonna turn it into into a series of movies.
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He could say something like "Ve vant ze informahtion, jah?"
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What is this-a rip roaring war film or Zoolander 2??
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I am not sure why so many fans are hung up on casting so many '80's action icons for IB. they are just *too* old to make plausible action heroes these days and have found other things to do. Not to mention the Governator is likely to join the Cabinet of either one of the next presidents once he leaves office in 2010.
But more to the point, RAMBO, ROCKY BALBOA, and INDIANA JONES were all decent, but fell below expectations because these old dogs cannot do there tricks anymore. It is like watching 80 year old Three stooges beating each other up. it was funny at one point. it is just pitiful now.
Better to hand over the reigns to a new generation of action stars. why not add Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, and maybe even John Travolta. (Not a whole lot of new action stars these days, no?) Christopher Walken and John Malkovich would play a pair of evil Nazis, too. -
So I have some serious Schwimmwatching to do, thanks again.
Concerning Leo's German, I repeat myself but who cares: Leo's mother is German. Here es a clip on Youtube of him speaking some German:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzZZ3r7qfsY
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This appears to have the makings of one of the best casts ever assembled for a film. Forget Sly, Bruce, Arnie, Roth and Eddie Murphy. Stick to great character actors with star quality and this should be amazing.
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he already looks like he could be a Nazi, like he might be Aryan pure blood.
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Swartsie and Stalone are pensioners so they'd need old foggie roles not the leads!
Harvey could do it coz he's just too cool and Brucie and Roth would rock in a war movie specially if they is Bastards!Can't see QT sticking to an old cast of Legends just coz it would tickle to see them on screen together sounding more interesting this! Shame it'll likely be split in 2 again to make it's money back because the fat cats and for some reason QT seem fine chopping up his art for the Mongos!? -
a helluva lot of foreign films. And he certainly knows his pop culture. But his penchant for riffing on foreign films and dropping references into his films is something that needs to be addressed. Tarantino seems to ride on his ability to reference pop culture ad nauseum and thus his scripts begin to suffer. Sometimes references aren't appropriate and just distract from, oh, I dunno, plot development and characterisation. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown. I thought they were excellent films and Tarantino really managed to find the right balance in those films. But Kill Bill was HIGHLY overrated and Deathproof, in fact, all of Grindhouse, bar the trailers, was a god-awful piece of crap. Far too self-aware to be a grindhouse movie, and far too self-important to be a parody. It was a mess and proof that sometimes directors should be stopped from being self-indulgent. I don't know anything about IB so far. I'd prefer to see the film fresh than read the script and know everything about the film before I go into the theatre. It ruins the whole magic of cinema by lapping up every little ounce of spoilers and information before the film is released. Gimme a trailer and that's enough for me. Some of you fanboys really need a re-education in cinema going.
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If it's made as is then all we get is another lop-sided, carcicature-laden film like Kill Bill.
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But if IB follows the same path as Grindhouse and Kill Bill, it's going to be a massive disappointment. I just want to see a well-made, men on a mission WW2 film. Guts and glory. No bullshit 'ooh, look how much I know about Duke Ellington and Glen Miller' pop culture conversations. Just get on with the plot ffs
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than see another over-written, under-edited QT movie. And how many articles are we going to have about casting rumours?
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I think that his casting choices this time around are less about who he may REALLY want as opposed to who will get people in seats. IB is a HUGE film. That said, there is a certain responsibility to the people funding it that he must accept. Pitt and DiCaprio can both carry films alone with their star power. This in addition to being very talented and capable actors.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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I mean, it's really hard to find Jews in Hollywood.
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They're both pretty boys who somewhere along the line turned into badasses. Yes, that's right, Leo is a badass and you know it. Don't let that baby-face deceive you. Tarantino will bring out the best in both those actors.
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Total garbage. Boring as fuck, pretentious-- an illiterate video-store clerk's fantasia of WWII.
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Are they mainlining crack in your IVs? Have you ever read anything else before this script? It's awful: shallow, without character, pretentious without the intelligence or insight to back up such ambition. Nothing but 16+ pages of bullshit posturing.
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or write a coherent sentence? And stop spelling 'Bastards' correctly. In the script this moron spells it 'Basterds.'
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Let me tell you what `KING KONG`is all about.It's a metaphor for a blonde chick who's fed up with all the white dicks and just wants to try a big black dick..." Cue(rumoured)Eddie Murphy"UH UH UH(trademark laugh)-get the fuck outta here!!!"....
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All I know is his charakters swear way too much. Since when is it "cool" to swear multiple times in every sentence?
The same thing bothered me a lot in The Departed. Too much swearing. It distracts and actually makes the supposedly bad-ass charakters kind of laughable at times.
Plus, Tarantino glorifies torture in my opinion. Totally unneccesary.
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Only two brakes will suffice.
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Please email me rsm03c@gmail.com, much appreciated!
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The best at what? Shitty writing? Making movies about kitsch? Appropriating other people's work? Tarantino is a fucking idiot, and any time he opens his mouth in an interview it's obvious. But if it's not, just READ 'Inglorious Basterds'. It's the product of a dyslexic 11 year-old who's done nothing but watch old movies his whole life.
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Do you have it? Can you email me?
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Saw Tarantino in the making-of of Kill Bill 1. The way he talks and gesticulates, he comes across as very very creepy. He seems to be just this pervert who had no life before some producer agreed to let him make some film. That pervert who only got ugly chicks and developed feet fetish and stuff and actually gets off on all the violence and torture he puts on screen.
He's totally different from someone like Cronenberg, like when he and Mortensen speak about the violence in History of Violence. With them I get the feeling that responsible, mature people tackle a delicate topic.
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On its way.
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It's rsm03c@gmail.com, the "0" is a zero, not the letter (often gets mixed up)
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These early casting "scoops" turn out to be dead wrong. Time will tell, of course, but it's hard to get emotionally engaged in these mythical choices right now.
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it's not like they are african or something, its a religion, anyone can be a fuckin jew so shut up about non jews playing jews, they could convert and BE jews anyway, plus it's called acting for a reason.
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What if a kid with (religious) Jewish parents develops into a total atheist? Do he lose his Jewishness by being Atheist? Just curious.
But the essence of your remark is dead-on. Jews come in all kinds of ethnic features, there are also african Jews, persian Jews, what not. There is no "jewish look" per se. okay when one wears a kippa and a t-shirt saying "jesus saves, moses invests" then he's probably not Muslim but that's about it. -
I would prefer Jews playing Jews so that they can talk some Yiddish here and there, like in the first scenes of Snatch... Yiddish is one funny language, especially if you're German like me.
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"Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion, those who have some Jewish ancestral background or lineage (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), and people without any Jewish ancestral background or lineage who have formally converted to Judaism and therefore are followers of the religion."
So Brad Pitt can easily be made into a Jew, if his character turns out to be one. And IF he gets cast. All rumours so far, right?
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Her family loosely celebrates Jewish holidays, and she identifies as Jewish. Some like Spielberg's wife, converted...she is a Religious Jew, my girlfriend is culturally Jewish. So one can be either.
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This keeps getting worse. Re write this cliche bullshit story, QT.
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Jul 16, 2008 10:35:01 AM CDT
It's not Brad Pitt's non-Jewishness that makes me nervous
by potsmokinalien
It's the description of his character as "hyper verbose" or whatever. The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford was a very verbose movie and Pitt's performance suffered quite a but as a result.But I still think this movie sounds like something I will see.
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Can someone email it to me.
Its joequinn08@gmail.com
Much appreciated fella's
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But Bruce Campbell should be in everything.
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whoever said that above, i think the way this is shaping up, that he seems like a completely natural fit. also they can cast NOONE else from the ocean's movies.
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Check your inbox.
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How many 46 year old G.I.'s were running around in WWII?? Not fucking many. In fact "Fuckers" Bruce Willis is only 7 years older than Brad (10 years too old to play Captain America) Pitt. Frankley if I never see another cast member in from any of those shitty Ocean's films (other than Damon) I would be happy. I would much rather see B level stars (Or Stars that were once A level and now sit somewhere in the B - C level range) which is really part of the magic of QT films. Not A-Lister narcisist Vanity Fair Party hopping Vapid douches. This should be a cast of good gritty actors not Star magazine coverboys.
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Joe Carnahan's 'White Jazz', adapted from the Ellroy book.Somebody let him make that, please.
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The Bastards aren't the only Jews in the film. The main character really is Shosanna. But between her and the eight members of Aldo's squad, I just think its a little wierd that all the casting rumors have been for Gentiles. I guess it makes sense though that Aldo and Landa would be among the first characters filled.
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At least with a southern character he has a 50/50 chance of coming CLOSE. But how funny would it be to make him the Nazi and watch him mangle that all to hell?
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has just as many misspellings
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But I still want to see it. I thought Carnahan could get Jason Patric or something and just do it. Patric would have been fine for me, Crowe would have perfect, and Clooney was always wrong. The lead character does evil shit and Clooney doesn't have nearly the edginess for that. I downloaded his Killing Pablo script; probably read that next.
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I'm in the Hima-LIE-uhs. Pitt's accent in Seven Years was cartoonish and laughably awful.
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Really? Roger Avary scripts usually read so clean...
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Jul 16, 2008 12:01:20 PM CDT
Fred just want to say that not all southerners sound like
by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar
a KFC Foghorn Leghorn - deep fried that is! Fred just love Foggy jokes. Some southerners have imperceptible accents. But if Pitt's character is from Appalachia, then I suggest he use the same accent he used in Snatch which was terrific.
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Ahh, I really just wanted to post with your name in the subject line. I got nothin'
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I think he just wrote the story to the Zed part, and some other ideas, not the actual script.
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should shut the fuck up with hype, knuckle down and make a decent film. and by that, i do mean that i hope IB turns out to be a masterpiece. RD and PF are IT in his collection, the remainder dip from average to shit on an all too frequent basis. he should be one of the greats but seems content to head for mediocrity. if Scorsese can finally win a fucking Oscar, then Tarantino can surely deliver a film that uses his blatant talent?
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The Brad Pitt hate is probably because the posters are pissed he's banging Angelina, thus disturbing their Tomb Raider wank fantasies. the lad has done more good than bad, any project he's in is worth a curious look.
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QT is no genius - he is a sponge - a talented one, but a sponge - he doesnt disguise this fact - he has soaked up a lot of movie-juice in his life - and thats what we see on screen - everything in kill bill was done before by shaw bros. studios and Leone - QT doesnt deny this - same with all his movies - theyre homages to what he loves - thats why his fans (me included, although i he annoys the fuck out of me) like what he makes - i, like him, have a connection to all these influences - his real fans like the same shit and seen the same movies that he riffs on - the problem for me is when i see the shit coming from a mile away it feels cheap and lazy - as if hes doing it for the uninitiated - like the diner powow in death proof - all the cute but tough hollywood girls talking about muscle cars and their favorite grindhouse muscle car movies - lame and phony - it was riffing the diner scene in RD where the crew was talking about madonna and 70s pop songs - lazy rip off - i like QT - but he has yet to match RD, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown
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... Or didn’t anyone find the “alleged” script - which truly does seem to be the real deal - to be EXTREMELY offensive? (sorry, I don’t generally use capitals for emphasis, but this script pissed me off) I don’t care how entertaining it was as a read (I agree: more Kill Bill caliber than reaching the heights of Reservoir or Pulp), I was just gob-smacked by the “liberties” it took with historical fact. Some minor changes could and should be brought to what I’ve read. I’m all for freedom of expression and I love QT, even in sub-par form but... This is just too fucking offensive, poetic license be damned. It's like the filmic equivalent of taking a drunken, self-absorbed piss on one of history’s darkest chapters. Other tweaks might also help (some characters are just outlines) but QT needs to not fuck with history or else, no amount of cool camera moves or star power is going to save the resulting work from being branded as shameful, revisionistic shite. And I understand it’s probably nothing malicious on his part but you cannot take liberties with such a somber pages of history. Oh, and regardless of the quality of the final film, there is no way this film will make a profit: too little action, too many languages, too little emotion. That said, I quite enjoyed it.
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between absorbing influence into a personal vision and emptily regurgitating it as part of a cheeseball, pop-culture shtick.
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but I could see how some people would be. Because it's WWII and still so personal to so many people, there's ways the script's portrayal of the war could be offensive to some. I was just more offended by the boredom and cardboard characters.
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are they actually going to shoot some of it in germany?
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Sorry, I repeated the massive spoiler after the end spoiler!
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when it comes to violence, I certainly don't trust this creep when it comes to delicately handling stuff like "a bunch of Jews vs. Hitler in France with much swearing, even more racist talk etc.".
Regarding the lament that "Brad Pitt just plays himself over and over again": Sometimes, that's actually okay. I think that Harrison Ford just has the same face expresions in every movie, and I like it, oh I like it! Harrison Ford should in fact play every cranky old guy can't decide if he's motivated to save the world or if he just wants to be left alone.
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And I dig it. Could use more battle action, or at least one scene in which we see "the Basterds" hunt down and kill a Nazi squad from start to finish, but otherwise seems like a solid flick.
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Yeesh.
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I regard "political correctness" to be cancer to all things political.
I think Jew killing Hitler is not in itself a problem. But it can be done right, and it can be done wrong. If Tarantino projects his pervert torture fantasies onto this, then it goes wrong.
But maybe he delivers, too early to judge.
By the way. If Germans made a movie about Hitler personally killing Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, many people would protest. Or if Arabs made a movie how some Palestinian personnaly sends Ariel Sharon to hell.
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Natalie Portman would seem the ideal choice.
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...but some parts of history (genocides, notably) should be respected and not distorted, because they can be offensive to those who still bear the very real scars (physical and psychological) and besides, they can teach us important lessons on how not to repeat these horrors. I know it sounds as if I'm against freedom of expression, I'm not. And QT can do as he pleases anyway. But WWII is recent, well-documented and harrowing. Never played Red Alert, though.
I like the comment about being more offended by cardboard characters (despite the 165 pages!!!). However, I don't totally agree: Lauda and Shoshannah are pretty nifty characters. But I doubt any Hollywood/ French star is tri-lingual or knows how to put a foreign accent on a language that is already foreign to them. The linguistic coaches are going to soak up half of the production budget... -
please send me the script, ive tried to look on my own but no luck, please someone send the script out to bobbywatts1977@yahoo.com
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... despite being in The Professional, she doesn't speak French (one of her very few flaws, I'm sure). The character is French, if she speaks with a heavy accent, it will sound phony, just like all those "French" characters in ALIAS episodes. Great call on Seth Rogen as the Bear Jew, however, more B-list actors are needed on this thing. Or has beens. Or unknowns. Or just give Landa's character to Ralph Fiennes so the 'cademy can give him the Oscar this time around.
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Haven't read the script and don't intend to. Portman can act younger than she is, like when she played with the reverend in V For Vendetta.
IMDB says about Portman:
Can speak two languages, Hebrew and English (her native languages), fluently. Also knows some conversational French, German, and Japanese and Spanish.
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Goddamnit, some of you are really dimwitted. Pitt's part is that of a Tenn. tough as nails soldier. Leo's part is that of the "jew killer." You know b/c he's German? Dipshits are everywhere.
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Sly, Arnold, who is fucking running the state of Cali, Van Damn Seagle, et al. None of these old men are going to be in this piece. You don't want anybody that's going to break a hip. And QT wants it to be a success b/c he needs one badly! So stop w/ the fiction that all the great action hero's of the eighties are coming back. They're not. Do you understand this? And also, for the jackass's that ask for the script: f'ing go to google and type in QT's IG Basterds script.
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But Shosanna is Jewish?
By the way, if anyone complains about some talkbacker assuming all squad member being Jewish, lay the blame entirely in front of Mr. Harry Knowles.
In his deluded rant called "doubt QT all you want, but blablabla" he talked of an "all Jewish-American squad". -
"Basically - it's a story about an all Jewish American unit sent behind the lines (...)"
After this, if someone who hasn't read the script assumes they are all Jewish can you blame him? -
description. And I also thought the chapter, if you want to call it that, was tedious and dull. "The Village of Nadine, France." Right when he introduces Von Hammersmark, aka Uma Thurman's part I'd assume. It's vintage QT having the Germans sitting around a table talking, talking, talking some more. Playing some card game and having it to do w/ current events. just like in RD and that last piece of shit he made, Deathproof.
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No Shia Labeouf?? Isn't he required to be in everything right now?
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scorsese doesnt sponge the way QT does - im waiting to see QT's "taxi driver" or 'mean streets" - what did those movies sponge from - "the departed" was an open take on "internal affairs" - scorsese wasnt sponging from "affairs" - he was hired to direct an american remake of it - Jackir Brown was the most original movie QT has made - his best really - and sadly it has had the least impact - he needs to make more like that one
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I'd love to see him do a love story. You know, like Il Mare (Siworae). Not his dialogue (which I mostly enjoy) just his direction.
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I could totally see Pitt as Aldo. It makes perfect sense, but what about all those French and German folks in the script? Why not hire, and here's a novel idea, French and German folks? Tarantino has already shown he is capable of leaping over linguistic boundaries by hiring Sonny Chiba, Gordon Liu and that chick from Battle Royale for Kill Bill. And the dude loves to introduce actors from lesser known works to a wider audience. It's a shame Ulrich Muhe died. He would have been fucking perfect as Landa. The role of Marcel is obviously tailored to someone like French actor Isaach De Bankole, although I admit I could see several people playing this role. Herc, you can fuck off with that Natalie Portman bull shit. Audrey Tatou may be slightly older but if she could pull off the malice of the role, seeing her grinning face on that big screen at the end would be just perfect. Emily Browning is another interesting choice that I think could pull off the role very well.
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They had Jews in the South back in the '40s. Miss Daisy was a Jew.
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Audrey would be swell, but Portman is closer to the right age and a bona fide jewess.
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... yes please.! Workshed out.
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Someone send me a copy of the script. I can't find it anywhere and I feel like I'm the only one who hasn't read it.
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I guess I just wish there were less big names up for this flick and more cult actors that could finally make it to a wider audience. I'm already pretty sure, the whole Arnold, Sly, Bruce thing is not happening so I am thinking about other possibilities.
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Unless that script was a fake and it's actually about a boy band called "N*glorious, Bastard$!". I like the, and I think they're great actors but this sure isn't what I was thinking.
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They are definitely two strong possibilities
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Ron Perlman, David Duchovny, Robert Downey Jr and Ben Foster (all of whom Jewish or part Jewish) could play the Jewish soldiers
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I think you meant Morgan, not Megan, and Freeman, not Fox.
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... I don't know...a black and white movie, like the 60's classics, but with a little grinhouse touch in it. Because, honestly, after Private Ryan it will be hard to keep me interested watching a WW2 movie directed like any other actual action movies. I need it to be special, one way or another.
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nuff said
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Actual IMDB Plot Summary...
Set in World War 2, Tarantino's story revolves around group of soldiers on their way to be executed, only they get the chance for a reprieve. He describes them as "Not your normal hero types that are thrown into a big deal in World War II."
Okay - somebody dig up Lee Marvin! -
if anyone has, please email jbrill23@hotmail.com
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