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Vern sees TROPIC THUNDER! The horror! The horror!

TROPIC THUNDER pretty much won me over only a few seconds in when I realized that the rapper character played by Brandon T. Jackson called himself "Alpa Chino." Completely ridiculous and totally plausible. So many rappers are obsessed with SCARFACE, CARLITO'S WAY and THE GODFATHER, and so many name themselves after notorious figures: Capone, Noreaga, Moriarty, Scarface, Rick Ross, Freeway, 50 Cent, Beanie Sigel, Irv Gotti, Young Gotti, Daz Dillinger, Kenn Starr, Jim Jones, Hittler. And I seriously only made up two of those names. So the possibility of Alpa Chino's Booty Sweat Energy Drink actually existing is so likely that I think most of the crowd really wasn't sure if the movie had started or if this was a real advertisement.

And that's one tiny example of why this movie worked for me. Personally I consider parody as it's usually done to be one of the lower artforms, somewhere below smooth jazz and novelty answering machine messages. I haven't watched any of these MEET THE SPARTANS type movies (I had to wash my hair that day I think) or the SCARY MOVIE generation before that, or the one where Leslie Nielsen dresses up as Braveheart. I won't even watch those thumb movies like THUMB WARS, BAT-THUMB or THUMMO. I did watch WALK HARD and I kind of enjoyed it, there were alot of good laughs in it and of course John C. Reilly was good, but for me just being a funny parody doesn't usually hold together as an actual movie.

TROPIC THUNDER isn't really in that category - it's a bunch of parodies within a satire within a meta-something or other that has been ritualistically devoured by a larger parody. But the parody aspects work because they're so accurate. Ben Stiller, after spending most of this century dabbling in mediocrity, comes back to directing with guns fuckin blazin. This is Ben Stiller, director of CABLE GUY, as opposed to Ben Stiller, the guy who agreed of his own free will to star in NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM 1&2.

As you probaly know, the story is about some dumbass actors (Stiller, Jackson, Jack Black, Jay Baruchel and 2008 America's Sweetheart Robert Downey II) who, while filming a Vietnam War movie, end up abandoned in the jungle fighting a drug cartel, all the while stupidly believing they are doing a BLAIR WITCH style guerilla filmmaking experiment. I think it's a funny premise, but what keeps it going is that the story naturally crosses paths with many different aspects of modern American culture (from stupid NUTTY PROFESSOR style comedies to pretentious Oscar bait, from talentless celebrity drug addicts to self-important geniuses to egomaniacal billionaire executives) and in almost all cases the observations are smart and the attention to detail sells it.

Alot of times the fictional pop culture in a movie is not really believable enough to be very funny (FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL is a recent example - funny movie, but the opening Entertainment Tonight segment almost lost me). Stiller (maybe because he used to do that sketch comedy show) knows how to make it all seem legit. If he's doing a trailer for a movie about farting fat people he knows exactly what the narrator says, how he says it, and when "U Can't Touch This" comes in.

By the end of the movie it goes pretty nuts. It kind of turns into RAMBO, but even funnier. It also gets kind of sloppy - I lost track of who had real bullets and what not, and not every joke works. I mean it's not perfect - I don't want to hype it up too much. All of the characters are funny, but most of them leave you wishing a little more had been done with them. Danny McBride (as a pyrotechnician with a Boz cut) and Nick Nolte (as the Vietnam legend who wrote the book the movie-within-a-movie is based on) get sidelined for most of the movie. Maybe some of their stuff was cut out. Nolte is hilarious even when his character takes an unnecessary twist. I'm surprised it took this long after his deranged performance in HULK for somebody to tap him as a secret comedy weapon. He's about the only former leading man who could easily out-BAD SANTA Billy Bob Thornton.

Seriously, think about it. So many movies would be better with Nolte in them. For example the last time I saw Danny McBride in a movie it was that DRILLBIT TAYLOR. The premise is that some kids are so fed up of being bullied that they pool their money to hire a bodyguard. They think they hired a war hero security expert but he's actually just a homeless guy who wants to rob their house. With Owen Wilson as the homeless guy it's cute I guess. But if it was Nick Nolte it would be hilarious. Not only would you believe he was homeless, you would worry that he is actually gonna kill the bullies.

Also, Nolte could've been the father of the baby in JUNO.

Downey will get the most discussion - it's not every day you see Robert Downey, Jr. playing an Australian playing an African-American speaking Chinese. But I want to acknowledge that it's nice to see Jack Black playing a different character than usual. I'm not saying he does some chameleonic transformation, but a fiend chasing dope like that cartoon wolf chases hot chicks is at least different from his usual lovable rock 'n roll loser character, so it's refreshing.

Two of the funniest characters are actually on the outskirts of the movie. Matthew McConaghey plays Stiller's agent as the ultimate Maxim-brained Hollywood rich guy asshole. And I'm not gonna raise him on the same pedestal as Nolte, but I think McConaghey is another actor nobody remembers to take advantage of. Maybe he really wants to be doing Kate Hudson movies for the rest of his life and turns down the good roles, I'm not sure. But every once in a while he gets to really let loose like, say, in REIGN OF FIRE, and the guy is great. If you think he's what the kids call "a total douchebag" that doesn't even matter because this is the role he was born to play. His equally noble and retarded gesture of friendship near the end of the movie was one of the biggest laughs for me.

There's also a superstar actor who you wouldn't expect to do a movie like this, and I didn't even recognize him in his first scene. If you don't know about it try not to hear about it. It might be a calculated move to improve his image, but that doesn't make it not funny as hell. Good job, unnamed actor.

I generally hate reviewing comedies, because I kind of feel like discussing what's funny and what's not is for assholes. I mean how many debates do we need about whether Apatow movies are hilarious or not funny at all? How many people can we get in one talkback pretending that everyone else is stupid for laughing or not laughing at different things? Doesn't anyone feel weird about trying to explain "If you knew anything about film theory and criticism you would know that the one you said was funny is the one that is not funny, the one I think is funny is the one that is actually funny, fuck you you cocksucker, etc."?

But I respect this movie so I thought I should vouch for it. For me anyway it was alot of belly laughs and at times bordered on genuine brilliance. I was kind of in awe of the complex juggling act Stiller is doing as not just the movie-within-the-movie but the movie itself becomes a parody of modern movie styles, making fun of cliches other parodists aren't even smart enough to notice yet. The score is by some guy named Theodore Shapiro, who mostly does cheesy comedies. I sure hope the screening I saw was his score because it's perfect, hitting on every modern action cliche from the quiet exotic sounds during slow motion money shots to the rockin guitars during chaotic battles.

I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but when this comes out next month I recommend it if you like laughter and all that and if you have the same sense of humor as me, which you probaly do, because I don't know man, you seem pretty cool. I think you would like it.

thanks,

Vern
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Sounds pretty sweet.
by Cybyer
Jul 13th, 2008
04:55:28 AM
Can't Wait!
by Autobot Optimus Prime
Jul 13th, 2008
04:55:39 AM
And yes...
by Cybyer
Jul 13th, 2008
04:56:38 AM
First?
by the_scream
Jul 13th, 2008
04:56:54 AM
Yep it looks good.
by Redfive!
Jul 13th, 2008
04:58:41 AM
Can't wait to see this.
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Jul 13th, 2008
05:00:27 AM
7th!
by CaptainTripsUK
Jul 13th, 2008
05:06:39 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Jul 13th, 2008
05:10:36 AM
As someone who actually liked
by comedian_x
Jul 13th, 2008
05:19:47 AM
I Agree With Guy Who Slept Through Everything
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Jul 13th, 2008
05:24:40 AM
I've slept with Matthew McConaghey
by hiperaktiv
Jul 13th, 2008
05:34:44 AM
I'm gonna name my next son Alpa
by Diagnostic
Jul 13th, 2008
05:35:34 AM
This sounds great
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jul 13th, 2008
05:45:38 AM
Good review, but I already know I want to see this
by O_Goncho
Jul 13th, 2008
05:46:36 AM
MCMLXXVI
by SugaMouth
Jul 13th, 2008
05:52:50 AM
I also agree with Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Jul 13th, 2008
06:02:04 AM
Saw an early screening at the Landmark in Westwood
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Jul 13th, 2008
06:32:44 AM
p.s. Steven Coogan
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Jul 13th, 2008
06:35:45 AM
Cannot wait...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
06:57:34 AM
Fuck you, you cocksucker!
by merricks14yearoldson
Jul 13th, 2008
07:15:47 AM
Is there a single person...
by kgerm
Jul 13th, 2008
07:26:21 AM
Nick Nolte at the father of the baby in Juno?
by Lloytron
Jul 13th, 2008
07:29:22 AM
kgerm
by BadMrWonka
Jul 13th, 2008
07:34:53 AM
If Nolte was the Bodyguard in Dilbert..
by Zombieflicker
Jul 13th, 2008
07:45:07 AM
So it is shit and studio payed for the blowjob review?
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 13th, 2008
07:51:04 AM
w00000000000t
by WallyWonka75
Jul 13th, 2008
07:54:43 AM
Yeah!...all the things that you think are funny are the...
by FlickaPoo
Jul 13th, 2008
07:56:52 AM
billypilgrimisunstuck, Tristram Shandy
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 13th, 2008
08:00:09 AM
Oh, and hey Lloytron...
by FlickaPoo
Jul 13th, 2008
08:11:59 AM
kgerm
by cyrent
Jul 13th, 2008
08:13:17 AM
Steve Coogan
by nobletoast13
Jul 13th, 2008
08:31:30 AM
Anybody seen Richie?
by Motoko Kusanagi
Jul 13th, 2008
08:49:57 AM
Coogan's role is small....
by Jarek
Jul 13th, 2008
08:59:52 AM
Nice Carlin shout out
by Sebilrazen
Jul 13th, 2008
09:02:47 AM
RDJ
by Iowa Snot Client
Jul 13th, 2008
09:03:12 AM
Is EvilWizardGlick
by Laserhead
Jul 13th, 2008
09:22:47 AM
SugaMouth
by Knuckleduster
Jul 13th, 2008
09:28:49 AM
Vern
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 13th, 2008
09:29:10 AM
Forgetting sarah marshall...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
09:32:35 AM
maybe this will pave the way for my Michael Bay biopic
by Spandau Belly
Jul 13th, 2008
09:43:23 AM
I haven't read every word on this yet, but...
by posbasso
Jul 13th, 2008
10:00:25 AM
My favorite line from this review?
by JOHN CONNORS SKIN
Jul 13th, 2008
10:00:43 AM
Three Amigos
by Chakaconair
Jul 13th, 2008
10:09:06 AM
"equally noble and retarded gesture of friendship"
by Autodidact
Jul 13th, 2008
10:14:48 AM
Three Amigos?
by dignan26
Jul 13th, 2008
10:19:07 AM
Nick Nolte and Gary Busey Together in One Movie
by Autodidact
Jul 13th, 2008
10:19:20 AM
The reason I don't see a lot of comedies in theatres
by Autodidact
Jul 13th, 2008
10:25:07 AM
Greatglam.com ad
by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro
Jul 13th, 2008
10:26:51 AM
Is this something like Three Amigos 2008?
by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro
Jul 13th, 2008
10:31:55 AM
Reign of Fire is totally underappreciated, IMO.
by theredtoad
Jul 13th, 2008
10:50:42 AM
The Vern
by teddytanner
Jul 13th, 2008
11:15:17 AM
reign of chaos
by ValMcKee
Jul 13th, 2008
11:18:44 AM
50 Cent is a metaphor
by smackfu
Jul 13th, 2008
11:31:38 AM
"Peaked My Interest"
by Autodidact
Jul 13th, 2008
11:35:23 AM
There's not enough complaining in this talkback
by ebonic_plague
Jul 13th, 2008
11:52:29 AM
Mmmmm
by BDT
Jul 13th, 2008
11:55:02 AM
The tone of this sounds like Stiller's TV show
by wash
Jul 13th, 2008
11:55:12 AM
smackfu I'd like to smacku
by wash
Jul 13th, 2008
11:56:38 AM
Someone send Mr/Mrs smackfu to the naughty corner.
by palimpsest
Jul 13th, 2008
11:58:03 AM
Sorry
by smackfu
Jul 13th, 2008
11:58:13 AM
Autodidact
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 13th, 2008
12:09:42 PM
smackfu
by Vern
Jul 13th, 2008
12:46:01 PM
IAmJack
by Vern
Jul 13th, 2008
12:49:16 PM
Kinda off-topic, but...
by DerLanghaarige
Jul 13th, 2008
01:03:20 PM
"Maybe he really wants to be doing Kate Hudson movies for the re
by Voice O. Reason
Jul 13th, 2008
01:04:40 PM
Chris Rock basically agrees with smackfu...
by cool_britannia79
Jul 13th, 2008
01:05:15 PM
Oh, and while we are talking about dumb rap-names:
by DerLanghaarige
Jul 13th, 2008
01:07:04 PM
I love...
by Neil_the_Sheep
Jul 13th, 2008
01:19:48 PM
Down and Out in Beverly Hills
by Mr. Poohgas
Jul 13th, 2008
01:27:26 PM
Fur Q - Uzi Lover
by cool_britannia79
Jul 13th, 2008
01:28:44 PM
The Chris Rock bit....
by tbransonlives
Jul 13th, 2008
01:32:32 PM
anchorman sucked
by DavidDunn
Jul 13th, 2008
01:33:16 PM
David Dunn
by cool_britannia79
Jul 13th, 2008
01:34:10 PM
To Kalon Reza
by tbransonlives
Jul 13th, 2008
01:34:48 PM
This sounds like the funniest movie ever made.
by HoboCode
Jul 13th, 2008
01:36:58 PM
DavidDunn...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
01:42:00 PM
WALK HARD Was Fucking Great
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
01:55:02 PM
wash you pretentious douche
by LARDASSESREVENGE
Jul 13th, 2008
02:01:36 PM
Vern: You're confusing "Spoof", "Parody" and "Satire"...
by BurnHollywood
Jul 13th, 2008
02:10:23 PM
Tom Cruise Should Play A Closet Homosexual Cult Member
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
02:11:07 PM
Parody vs. Satire
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
02:19:54 PM
In Other Words, Sounds Like TROPIC THUNDER Is Parody
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
02:24:14 PM
BurnHollywood
by caruso_stalker217
Jul 13th, 2008
02:25:17 PM
I think that...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
02:35:20 PM
Funny vs. Not Funny.
by micturatingbenjamin
Jul 13th, 2008
02:35:23 PM
I'm sticking with TROPIC THUNDER being satire...
by BurnHollywood
Jul 13th, 2008
02:49:36 PM
I also enjoyed WALK HARD
by caruso_stalker217
Jul 13th, 2008
02:54:56 PM
three amigos
by I.P. Awnu
Jul 13th, 2008
02:55:28 PM
parody or spoof...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
03:03:50 PM
...so this is satire...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
03:04:28 PM
I just can't take Stiller as the "tough guy action star."
by GQtaste
Jul 13th, 2008
03:08:10 PM
PANDA JERK!
by cool_britannia79
Jul 13th, 2008
03:11:41 PM
here's the thing about racism
by Kloipy
Jul 13th, 2008
03:15:02 PM
EvilWizardGlick - Cock and Bull Story
by mooli_mooli
Jul 13th, 2008
03:16:17 PM
John C. Reilly Is Much Funnier Than Will Ferrell
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
03:20:09 PM
in response to merricks14yearoldson
by applescruff
Jul 13th, 2008
03:29:40 PM
C. Reilley, Ferrell...
by davebaxter1989
Jul 13th, 2008
03:29:46 PM
Brevity Is The Maiden's Head Of Wit?
by LaserPants
Jul 13th, 2008
03:34:24 PM
Night at the Museum 2?? Really??!
by Touche_Douche
Jul 13th, 2008
03:47:21 PM
Tough action star?
by antonphd
Jul 13th, 2008
04:00:06 PM
antonphd you forgot one thing
by Kloipy
Jul 13th, 2008
04:01:36 PM
EvilWizardGlick
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Jul 13th, 2008
04:08:44 PM
great review, " you you cocksucker, etc."?
by pipergates
Jul 13th, 2008
04:10:17 PM
parody v. satire
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Jul 13th, 2008
04:19:50 PM
MCMLXXVI - eat a fat fuckin dick
by Lamerz
Jul 13th, 2008
04:29:56 PM
Vern, what rapper endorses Hitler?
by ganymede3010
Jul 13th, 2008
04:43:22 PM
Vern used the R-word!
by Iowa Snot Client
Jul 13th, 2008
04:59:33 PM
Yeah, cat's out of the bag on the "unnamed actor"...
by DarthCorleone
Jul 13th, 2008
05:09:09 PM
UNNAMED ACTOR
by alice 13
Jul 13th, 2008
06:13:50 PM
Iowa
by Vern
Jul 13th, 2008
06:41:29 PM
You should see me right now.
by Garbage
Jul 13th, 2008
07:16:00 PM
I can't wait
by Glamour Fairy
Jul 13th, 2008
07:19:41 PM
I wish Reilly would get out completely.
by Balcony Fool
Jul 13th, 2008
07:36:11 PM
The Good Thief was a good Nolte film. Also Vern is N#1 Reviewer
by Stormwatcher
Jul 13th, 2008
08:01:34 PM
Vern, if you don't want to say retard
by Chicken Thunder
Jul 13th, 2008
08:02:42 PM
Of course Downey is Jewish.
by GQtaste
Jul 13th, 2008
08:20:09 PM
To Kalon Reza
by tbransonlives
Jul 13th, 2008
08:42:26 PM
Actors aren't necesarally Jewish in Hollywood
by I Dunno
Jul 13th, 2008
09:14:22 PM
Downey is half Jewish
by waites
Jul 13th, 2008
10:26:39 PM
PLANTY MCPLANT
by hatespeech
Jul 13th, 2008
10:39:02 PM
hatespeech
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 13th, 2008
11:05:53 PM
you must be bored
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 13th, 2008
11:06:07 PM
still
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 13th, 2008
11:07:07 PM
Matt McConaughey
by unclefishbits
Jul 13th, 2008
11:22:29 PM
I told you all this was a good movie
by BrightEyes
Jul 13th, 2008
11:48:46 PM
Why is Cruises' cameo a big surprise?
by TVguy4566
Jul 13th, 2008
11:52:15 PM
So all it takes to improve your image is....
by Han Cholo
Jul 14th, 2008
12:09:06 AM
Instead of retard, just say mong
by Chicken Thunder
Jul 14th, 2008
12:46:03 AM
Instead of retarded, just say Disaster Movie!
by otm shank
Jul 14th, 2008
01:26:53 AM
TV guy and others
by Vern
Jul 14th, 2008
02:05:48 AM
i for one cannot take seriously anyone who
by kamar
Jul 14th, 2008
02:09:40 AM
Vern
by Project424
Jul 14th, 2008
02:12:20 AM
I for one think names are supposed to be capitalized.
by Vern
Jul 14th, 2008
05:04:47 AM
And still no mention of Galaxy Quest.
by DerLanghaarige
Jul 14th, 2008
05:10:23 AM
Yeah, I think if I would intend to come up with...
by DerLanghaarige
Jul 14th, 2008
05:12:53 AM
Vern
by TVguy4566
Jul 14th, 2008
08:53:31 AM
If you thought the end of Rambo was funny...
by NiceGuyEddie19
Jul 14th, 2008
08:59:19 AM
Looking forward to this one
by finky089
Jul 14th, 2008
11:56:55 AM
Wow! What a bunch of douche bags...
by TheBigLebowsky
Jul 14th, 2008
01:06:24 PM
for the record
by nobletoast13
Jul 14th, 2008
02:09:09 PM
nice e.e. cummings reference, vern
by irrelevntelefant
Jul 14th, 2008
06:04:29 PM
this does sound like the first REAL ben stiller film...
by duanejones
Jul 15th, 2008
01:02:21 PM
Looking forward to this.
by Ellipsian
Aug 6th, 2008
10:58:18 AM

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