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Hercules Has Seen All Seven Episodes Of GENERATION KILL, The New HBO War Series From the Creators Of THE WIRE!!

Published at: July 13, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!
Based on Rolling Stone reporter Evan Wright’s acclaimed book about the earliest days of Operation Iraqi Freedom, “Generation Kill” is now a seven-episode miniseries from David Simon and Ed Burns, the writer-producers behind HBO’s “The Wire.” Its sprawling cast includes James Ransone (Ziggy Sobatka from “The Wire”), Lee Tergesen (Tobias Beecher from “Oz”) and Robert John Burke (the replacement Alex Murphy in “RoboCop 3”). It’s a fast-moving, addictive series, difficult to switch off, it turns out, even when an unread copy of Quentin Tarantino’s hilarious and riveting (and thick) “Inglorious Bastards” beckons from a corner of one’s desk. On the morning of 9/11 and the days that followed, I’m guessing a lot of Americans shared my angry fantasies of enlisting in the U.S. military to help mete out a little payback. “Kill” will make you pity plenty the lost kids who actually volunteered and wound up assigned to Iraq. The commanding officers who oversaw the initial effort are portrayed as self-serving, reckless and/or slow-witted. The show helps us imagine the hell of risking one’s life in such dismal conditions in the service of these jerks and halfwits. The biggest annoyance this series indulges is its casting of too many talented actors who look too much like their talented castmates when wearing giant standard-issue helmets and chinstraps. Is that Bravo Platoon 2 leader Nate Fick talking in the shadows over there, or is it Team Leader Brad Colbert? Is that Alpha Company captain Bryan Patterson lurking about in the dust or dim Bravo Company captain Craig “Encino Man” Schwetje? You sometimes want to make like “The Office” manager Michael Scott and distinguish these lookalikes with a big felt-tip marker. USA Today gives it four stars (out of four) and says:
… an honest, barely adorned, sometimes painfully vivid representation of life as we live it now. It's journalism converted to art, with both benefiting. …
Entertainment Weekly gives it an “A-minus” and says:
… one wild, cliché-busting trip.…
TV Guide says:
… riveting … The journey is often mordantly funny when it isn’t nerve-rackingly intense.…
Time Magazine says:
… combines bone-rattling action, lacerating drama and comedy as dark and dirty as a nighttime sandstorm. … As the stoic enigma and the hopped-up smart-ass speed through the desert landscape, you could almost take Kill for a surreal road comedy. The drama of this outstanding miniseries, and its horror, comes from knowing where that road leads.
The Wall Street Journal says:
… a work exceptional for its up-close view of these Marines (played by actors) and the action on the road to Baghdad. …
The New York Times says:
… bold, uncompromising and oddly diffident. It maintains impeccable dignity even as it tracks a group of shamelessly and engagingly profane, coarse and irreverent marines … “Generation Kill,” which has a superb cast and script, provides a searingly intense, clear-eyed look at the first stage of the war, and it is often gripping. But like a beautiful woman who swathes herself in concealing clothes and distracting hats, the series fights its own intrinsic allure. …
The Los Angeles Times says:
… although I am not informed enough to say how closely Simon and Burns' vision of the war resembles the real thing, I do know that it's all the unreal stuff -- the persuasiveness of the filmmaking, the grace of the acting -- that makes "Generation Kill" work as a TV show. …
The Chicago Tribune says:
… as addictive and absorbing, in its own way, as “The Wire.” Both programs stick around in your brain long after the credits roll. Both shows are deeply compassionate toward people on the front lines of complicated conflicts, and make you think hard about difficult questions that it would be more convenient to ignore. …
The Washington Post says:
… grippingly powerful … The point here also seems to be that war is stupid, this one more so than many others, and that the higher one goes in the hierarchy of command, the stupider the commanders tend to be. …
The San Francisco Chronicle says:
… less a war movie than a character study of a motley assemblage of soldiers and their commanding officers. The dialogue and scenes are constantly riveting. …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
… stark, often profane and utterly believable …
The Miami Herald says:
… With a cast of outstanding if mostly unknown actors, it offers an unapologetic grunt's-eye view of the military, in which a brass hat is less a symbol of authority than an indelible mark of stupidity, cupidity or both. …
The Orlando Sentinel says:
… Vivid storytelling, superb acting and a frank approach make this a TV landmark. …
The Boston Globe says:
… remarkable … Laser-lit and sand-blasted, "Generation Kill" defines a new kind of hell. …
Variety says:
… HBO nails the target with "Generation Kill" -- a raw, gritty, so-real-you'll-forget-it's-drama miniseries … like the intractable drug war that Simon and company waged on "The Wire," it is, indeed, a sight to behold. …
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… an unsettling, distinctive, utterly riveting seven-part miniseries that captures the surrealistic nuts and bolts of launching a war better than any project in recent memory. …
Ain’t It Cool News says:
… If you want to step into the shoes of real-life killers fighting for their country, if you want to know how a soldier deals with killing the enemy and innocent civilians caught in the crossfire, if you want to see life unfold before your eyes in vivid exciting detail, check out the book and the show.
9 p.m. Sunday. HBO.

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  • July 13, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    first is dumb.

    by bonecrushersmith

    .....

  • July 13, 2008, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Second is where it's at :)

    by LIFESUCKS

  • July 13, 2008, 4:09 a.m. CST

    My Comment

    by LIFESUCKS

    I'm looking forward to this, hope it has substance HBO needs something to bring it out of mediocraty

  • July 13, 2008, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Let's prey it can live up to the buzz

    by ev1ldead

    and that some day HBO will produce regular series from this caliber again. R.I.P. Deadwood, Carnivale, Rome, Oz, Sopranos, The Wire. Go fuck yourself SATC clones and britcom remakes. AMEN

  • July 13, 2008, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Explosive Bed Farts

    by juwamba

    in the Holiday Inn of your choice

  • July 13, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Simon and Burns

    by NudeandAroused

    I am hearing very strong reviews about this. Anything by Simon and Burns deserves attention. I will certainly watch it.. Though I agree, HBO has slipped significantly in terms of quality.

  • July 13, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Rape, theft, racism, murder, Truth of those

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I wonder if it will cover the rape of not only Iriqi women but women serving in the military. <p> I wonder if the theft of Iraqi property by US sildiers will see the light of day. <p> I wonder if overt and casual racism of US soldiers toward the Iraqi people will be addressed. <p> I hope the illustrate the continual murder of innocent civilian women, children, and men. <p> If you think any of the above is made up or propaganda you haven't read the news for the last couple of years. Nor have you seen the Winter Soldier hearings. <p> Even better that weakness of the voluntary military was pointed out in Buffalo Soldiers. At least with a draft you had the chance to recruit the best and brightest and those with a strong moral compass. Now you get gang members and those who rape the fellow soldiers. <p> Gone are the social examinations we saw with Viet nam movies. Now the military has veto power on scripts and themes.

  • July 13, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Probably the only thing on HBO I give a fuck about this year...

    by Sledge Hammer

    Definitely looking forward to this one. It's just too bad that HBO hasn't got too much else to look forward to these days.

  • July 13, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Hey EvilWizardGlick

    by Milton Waddams

    I truely feel sorry for you. Enough said.

  • July 13, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Black Hawk Down

    by Symposium

    You couldn't tell who was who in that film either. They solved it by making a shit film so it didn't matter. It doesn't sound like this is using the same technique.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I'm so glad george Carlin passed away

    by Kentucky Colonel

    I dropped HBO after THE WIRE shut down...but when HBO announced they were going to run all of his stand up specials the Wife got us HBO for a month. Well, now that she's seen all the positive press (and the clips) we're gonna keep it for a month or two more. <p> Pussy whipped...hell yes I am! You should be so lucky as I, fanboy! <p> See y'all after 10 tonight to judge reaction!

  • July 13, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I miss the Busted T chicks

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Those Great Glam girls are too glam. All titty, no substance. BFD...bring back the cute girls next door!

  • July 13, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Character confusion...

    by tonagan

    I had the same problem keeping characters straight in Band of Brothers. Hope this is as good as John Adams (which I really, really liked.)

  • July 13, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    TOO SOON!!!

    by Pageiv

    The book was great, and I even received a couple emails from Evan Wright after I wrote a review of GK for my college paper, he seemed like a fair person and I found the book very pro military. What I found distressing was a producer saying the movie, "Doesnt take sides." WTF? You going to make a movie where radical killers target children and civilians to reinstall a dictatorship or Islamic Republic on one side and the USMC on the other and "Not take sides"? Pathetic, last couple of generations have no idea what it means to be an American and what patriotism means. It's sad you cant have a movie about the military without throwing in dival about "right and wrong" or whether leaders "lied". Like I said Americans arent taguth history and what they are taught it paints America as the bad guy.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    David Simon is the shizz

    by Charlie Murphy

    I've been eargerly awaiting this, and his new orleans pilot. I believe this is the only thing i'll watch on hbo until True Blood premieres.

  • July 13, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    That's nice HBO...

    by OBSD

    Now where the fuck is the Preacher series you promised?

  • July 13, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Pageiv

    by shodan6672

    You do realize there is something call moral ambiguity? Not everything is black and white. While I side firmly with the culture of the US, there is denying that both sides have done horrible things in this war (that never should have been started in the first place).

  • July 13, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Get after the freedom haters!

    by Judge Briggs

    Oh shit- I am going to Iraq? Shit- no freedom haters there... oh wait, they don't hate us for our freedoms? Really? But Fox News is always accurate and Bush & Cheney wouldn't lie to us!

  • July 13, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    "Doesn't take sides"

    by Chewtoy

    Do you think maybe that was a statement about whether or not this war should have been started in the first place, rather than taking sides between the combatants in the war itself? Or would that require more than a knee-jerk reaction to a sound bite?

  • July 13, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Whoo We look at all the socialist Papers lovin this!!!

    by picardsucks

    Amazing how they all( and presumably with no actual military experience themselves) are all jumping onboard and saying how honest and truthful this is as a portrail of the war and those waging it. Any chance to slander the young men over there and the socialists just glom on while still of course wearing their yellow ribbons and saying how they suuport the troops.These shitheads are the same ones that threw shit at our returning Vietnam vets and called them baby killers and couldn't wait to pump up John Kerry into some voice of truth and morality without actually first checking the facts or those that served with them. All those anti-war (But equally anti-military personal) films that made a combined $5.00 at the box office. But of course they support the troops too. See of course the truth as they see it is that anyone who joins the military is either a dumb uneducated hick or some poor taken advantage of minority. How fucking elitist and insulting. There are too dumb to know better???? I have a couple of veteran friends who recently got back. Both college educated. One being one of Chicago's top civil engineers and the other a decorated Chicago Cop whom I went to college with. I really hope we do bring back a draft and the first ones to go are the Eastern European socialist anarchists in the New York, L.A. and Frisco Media, the next can be the legislators and there sons and daughters who would wage war cavilierly and finally the little faggots who think they are in UFC but not actually in UFC by getting a buzz cut and some bad tribal tattoos and wear a tapout shirt. All those mentioned get mine removal duty. Fucking A-Holes!!!

  • July 13, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Fuck all your mothers

    by ebonic_plague

    Picard rules.

  • July 13, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    I'm going to watch the fuck out of this show

    by wash

    In the words of the lovable US Prez, "Bring It On"!.

  • July 13, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I'm as anti-American as the next European but...

    by I Hope You Die

    "The point here also seems to be that war is stupid, this one more so than many others, and that the higher one goes in the hierarchy of command, the stupider the commanders tend to be." That just sounds juvenile.

  • July 13, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Picardsucks...

    by BangoSkank

    ...has a stick shoved so far up his ass, that everytime he farts, he coughs up bark.

  • July 13, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Hope You Die

    by HoboCode

    How does that sound juvenile, you fucking limey? Sounds like real life to me.

  • July 13, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Has anyone torrented them then ?

    by dj_bollocks

    *ahem*

  • July 13, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Where is the new Big Brother 10 talkback? It's

    by GQtaste

    coming on tonight on CBS and later on Showtime for people who didn't know.

  • July 13, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Wire guys are Gold

    by Larry of Arabia

    I would watch anything they do based on the track record they have. The Corner, Homicide:Life on the Street, The Wire, and now Generation Kill. Talk about a model of consistently riveting and uncompromising TV.

  • July 13, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    simon and burns are the most talented duo on tv

    by bacci40

    everything they touch is gold

  • July 13, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    picardsucks....the first to go should be the bush twins

    by bacci40

    as bush had no prob in starting an illegal and immoral war, as long as his own kids werent forced to go...force jenna to leave her family behind for a year...then lets see what happens when she returns home with a severe brain injury...fuck the criminal enterprise that is the bush whitehouse

  • July 13, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Anti American?

    by Larry of Arabia

    Are we still at the point where any criticism of the military and war are still considered Anti-American? When, after 8 years and a trillion dollars we still don't have Osama? When oil, which everyone in the administration said would be safe, secure, and around $20 a barrel due to this war is 7X that? When we've gone from being a bastion of freedom to having legal wiretapping of US Citizens without a warrant? When we've gone from a fighter for human rights to using ideas from the worst days of Communist China to get information? When we've lost credibility on all these issues in the world? When the average income in the US, adjusted for inflation, is lower than it was 8 years ago? I think we had to do something, but we didn't do anything the right way. We can't talk about these things in a movie or tv show, the news or a talkback because our freedom to criticize the government, as stated in the Constitution, is unamarican? Sorry, you lost the argument on September 17, 1787.

  • July 13, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Meatbiscuit, you didn't like it...

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    ...because it was a show about history and not about shiny things, explosions, and loud sounds. So your attention was instantly lost. Go back to fingering yourself in your asshole as you watch Michael Bay movies.

  • July 13, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    IAMJack'sUserID made me spit up my milk

    by Touche_Douche

    Thanks for the funny!

  • July 13, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Are the Marine Commanders who recommend GK "socialists"?

    by G100

    I see there are a the usual Douchebags who don't have a clue what the book is about whining about unamerican defeatist leftist propaganda and showing their ignorance for all to see.<p> <p>Despite initial doubts, Marine commanders later encouraged the officers of 1st Reconnaissance to read the book and the articles to get an insight into the reality of war.<p> <p>Does that sound like it's some "socialist" "unamerican" political tract or that it shows the unvarnished reality of the chaos of war and it's effects ?<p> <p>Can't wait to see how some of the characters are portrayed and without giving awway one of the books biggest shocks I wonder at what point the mini-series will divulge to the Marines what the REAL nature of their mission is.<p> <p>HBO may well be in trouble but this is one of the high points this year.<p> <p>Screwby!<p>

  • July 13, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Just more propaganda..

    by banditmania

    ..they should have hit the House of Saud.

  • July 13, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    "Vial for your thoughts"...

    by DanielKurland

    And I always liked Ziggy Sobotka.

  • July 13, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    DirkBelig,,,patton was not portrayed as heroic

    by bacci40

    in fact, he was portrayed as an arogant ahole who loved the concept of sending men to their deaths in some perverse idea of glory...and we won the iraq war, i wish you wingnuts would get that through your thick skull...we are losing the occupation...no country has ever won a hot occupation...just as we never could "win" in vietnam, as by the time we left, even the people we were alledgedly there to fight for, hated our guts...this was and remains an illegal and immoral military action, and bush, cheney, rumsfeld and others should all be tried for war crimes

  • July 13, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Moron

    by dahveed1972

    Um Dirk, have you actually seen the movie Patton? Also, none of the guys I know who have served in Iraq (I work at a VA hospital) would EVER want to be portrayed as one dimensional heroes/martyrs for the sake of so-called pro-American propaganda. And as stated above, many vets (enlisted men and officers)have praised the book for its honesty and accuracy. So unless the miniseries veers off drastically , which apparently it doesnt, they should dig it.

  • July 13, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    pro-american war movies

    by dahveed1972

    Also, theres no shortage of pro-american war flicks. Rambo 2 and 3, the Missing in Action series, Iron Eagle (ok thats a stretch), Hamburger Hill, Aliens (imagine the bugs are Commies or Al Qaida), Starship Troopers (again, use your imagination and ignore the irony). Kidding aside, how about Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers?

  • July 13, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    cont...

    by dahveed1972

    And we had 2 pretty decent war movies from Eastwood recently.

  • July 13, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    You KNOW DirkBelig...

    by KazamaSmokers

    ...went through a whole bottle of Jergens writing that hysterical diatribe.

  • July 13, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    DirkBelig, Picardsucks sucks, and Others

    by hebrokeaway

    I'm in my sixth year with the USMC. I'm proud to serve. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think most of the people here in this TB have experienced it first hand. I've done two tours of Iraq and our unit is headed to the desert again next year. I bring this up to tell you that you are objectively full of shit. If you think we are being told to hold back and not fight, then please leave the country because you are not worth our sacrifice. It's insulting to come on here and have some idiot tell us that we're not "winning" because the President is bowing down to three liberal celebrities...or whatever your inane post said. I assure you that your type of political "discourse" doesn't exist over there. We're more worried about staying alive and fighting so you can all enjoy your comfortable lives arguing on the internet. Picardsucks: I assure you the events recounted in GF are not an isolated incident, and I don't think it's slander to point it out. Your mileage may vary by your ignorance, however.

  • July 13, 2008, 6:13 p.m. CST

    dahveed1972...flags of our fathers wasnt postive

    by bacci40

    in fact, it showed that even during ww2, the administration was not adverse to using vets and then not providing them benefits...its message was, you are a hero until we dont need you anymore...and i recall that clint was ripped over letters from iwo jima for attempting to humanize the japanese

  • July 13, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    hebrokeaway

    by NudeandAroused

    Well said. Keep you head down and come home safe. Thank you.

  • July 13, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Picard sucks

    by wash

    "There are too dumb to know better????" THERE ARE TOO DUMB???? You are too dumb, you hysterical chicken-hawk gasbag!

  • July 13, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST

    PLEASE, I BEG YOU

    by King Kull

    Will someone beat EvilWizardGlick with a stick. Now. Before it breeds.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:18 p.m. CST

    excellent

    by NudeandAroused

    Looking forward to more.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Well THAT sucked

    by Mister Pink

    What a let down. The characters are all assholes. The constant racism got on my last nerve. Same with the gay bashing, the liberal bashing and the rape jokes. The first episode did not instill sympathy. The only character I liked was that officer who kept yelling at that douchebag to shave his fucking porn-stache.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Mister Pink

    by HoboCode

    So you say you were let down because all the characters were assholes but then you liked the biggest asshole on the show? Gotcha.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST

    It was a great beginning. Great show,

    by HoboCode

    It's very in keeping with the original articles in terms of tone. Well balanced, entertaining, and thought provoking show. I'm sure it won't be successful but the good thing about HBO and this being a miniseries is that it doesn't matter what morons will think. Bless you HBO.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    The dialogue was really entertaining

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    consistent with the other works associated with David Simon. I'll enjoy watching this unfold, and I'll probably watch this first ep. again on demand. The dialogue is uncompomising. Reminds me of early Mamet.

  • July 13, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Well, Gracious

    by MarkWhittington

    The Marines are all a bunch of kill crazed, racist, sexist, creeps, except for the officers who are incompetent. The war is evil and pointless. Bush is Hitler. Cheney is Hitler. Blah, blah, blah. How many more of these anti war, anti soldier, anti American pieces of dreck will Hollywood try to inflict on us until they get the message?

  • July 14, 2008, midnight CST

    Fuck you, Dirk...

    by BurnHollywood

    "McCain sucks ass"...y'know, I don't want him to be President, and I disagree with his flip-flopping and present political company, but you've got a few tours to do in Iraq before you can say that about a bona fide, American hero...<p> Step to it, little girl...the recruiting sergeant is waiting.

  • July 14, 2008, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Meatbiscuit has stated the stupidest statement

    by GQtaste

    i've ever seen on here. And thats saying quite a bit.

  • July 14, 2008, 12:38 a.m. CST

    People like Dirk and Mark...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...don't want to see anything that is going to contradict the John Wayne movies that comprise the worldview, even if it does show people in the military, y'know, as they actually are. Shades of gray are un-American, and they'll be damned if they have to compromise their mythology for anyone's harsh reality, including the people actually living their naive fantasy. It's too bad you guys don't have the same condescending hard-on for glorifying cops, you'd probably hate The Wire, too.

  • July 14, 2008, 1:07 a.m. CST

    I Agree with critics

    by Tocksick

    I've seen the first five episodes of the mini-series. And while I thought it started off a little slow for my tastes, once I got used to the soldiers I started to forget that I was watching was fiction. The characters remind me so much of the average guy in my high school who went off and joined the Army. They have respect for their country and their job but they also just love to talk shit and be in the moment. The documentary-style approach helps blur the line of fiction and the soldiers duty to your country versus the duty of one human to another - no matter what country you belong to. I'm not normally a fan of raw, realistic war films but General Kill slowly grew on me and I definitely recommend you check it out.

  • July 14, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST

    DirkBelig, you really are a stupid fuck

    by bacci40

    there is so much wingnut bullshit you are slinging, but since this is an entertainment website, lets stick with the patton description...of course patton wasnt slandared, the movie was based on actual events...and it wasnt just the public slapping of a soldier that caused him problems, it was blatant disregard for the suthority of the supreme commander...as for the rest of your assertions, they totally disregard every other aspect of history, but at least you aint blaming clinton...oh, and i was around during the carter years...my parents could afford to send 3 children to private school on one salary, take family trips, send the kids to summer camp, and help us all pay for university...this on a retail salesman's salary....know anyone like that today?

  • July 14, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Very realistic show

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Never went to war, but spent time in the desert in the Army and this is the most realistic movie about being in the modern military I have ever seen. The banter, the sexist homophobic comments, lol--definitely true to life.

  • July 14, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    "The show won't be renewed"

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    I've seen two people say this. Um, it's a MINISERIES, you fucks. No, it won't be renewed. It's seven fucking episodes TOTAL in its ENTIRETY. Why is it that every single day on this site at least 100 people have to prove that the Mike Judge film IDIOCRACY is coming true? Damn.

  • July 14, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    seriously

    by cocolopez

    There are some dumb motherfuckers here. The clowns who say it won't be renewed and the same whiny bitches who say they're gonna cancel HBO right after whatever high quality show is currently airing on it. Blowtime has ONE quality show- that's Brotherhood and the order each season gets shorter and shorter. Dexter season II was getting pretty bad with the whole Lila crap and Bullshit! has run past it's prime. HBO has Big Love, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Generation Kill, David Simon's next hourlong, Flight of the Conchords, The Pacific, True Blood, David Milch's cop show, the best documentary series around, Bill Maher, etc. - and you still have all these tired ass bitches complaining every season how HBO is falling off. Lol. There's not enough big red ball noses for all of the clowns here.

  • July 14, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    ginrei724

    by HoboCode

    I'm sure this is a needless request as no woman would touch you, but don't breed. Thanks.

  • July 14, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    EvilWizardGlick is a moron

    by ZO

    .

  • July 14, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Great show

    by wash

    A lot more funny than I thought it would be. Tone wise it felt a bit like Full Metal Jacket though. Better than I was expecting, even though I love The Wire.

  • July 14, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Slow first episode, but promising

    by Mullah Omar

    I've worked in a lot of trouble spots alongside military guys from the US and several other countries, and the trailers gave me a lot of hope that we'd get a nice peek inside their world. For me, the best parts of the trailers have been the humor - during the long periods of inaction or routine, war zones offer HUGE potential for absurd comedy, and I'm glad that someone else both saw this and was not afraid to address it. It doesn't always have to be reverent like EVERY other WWII flick or tragic like EVERY other Vietnam flick. I was hoping for some kind of modern CATCH-22. <br> <br> And having seen the first episode, I am cautiously optimistic. Yeah, it was a bit slow, but the trailers alone make it obvious that this will stay lively. I haven't read the book and I haven't looked into the background, so I don't even know the span of time that the 7 episodes will eventually cover, but the feedback above (thanks for not overtly spoiling things, by the way) makes it seem like it's worth staying for the rest of the ride. <br> <br> Aside from liking it, count me as someone else who had a LOT of trouble keeping track of the characters. The buzzcuts and generic accents make it tough to distinguish about half of the guys from one another. <br> <br> As for the issue of balance, I think the first episode already showed what the team meant by that - you get good people and bad people at all levels. Some commanders are obviously not cut out for their jobs, others are very protective of their soldiers. Some soldiers are racists and homophobes, others are decent and conscientious. The way the end plays out is as realistically balanced as you can get - you have a decent commander giving an immoral (and illegal) order, a reporter seeing it happen and hesitating, and another decent officer obeying the order and telling the reporter to go ahead and report what he saw. There is a lot of gray area in just that single scenario. I hope to see more events like this portrayed. It's not rah-rah at all, but it's not an indictment, either, unless you simply want to quote lines or situations out of context (which is easy but unfair). The characters who stood out in the first episode were distinguished by their complexity and humanity. Good job, producers.

  • July 14, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Wash

    by picardsucks

    Does the aids infected lump if bloody shit in you ass tingle??? You fuck!!! I'm not a chicken hawk nor am I in support of this war or the way it has been waged. I am however angered by certain aspects of the media that gleefully attack the men and women serving our country in this war all the while saying how much they love and support the troops. That really pisses me off as much as a bunch of businessmen cooking up a reason to go to war for geo-political- financial reasons. Hammering us constantly with every minute negative of our troops conduct while ignoring their bravery, nobility and all the good things they have been forced to do is horseshit. I was pleased by GK last night in the portrail of the Marines, I found them to be noble, sypathetic and very nuianced.

  • July 14, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    picardsucks

    by HoboCode

    Tell me who is "gleefully attacking the men and women serving our country." That is such fucking HORSESHIT. That shit is cooked up by the Republican spin machine to slander liberals and Democrats. If you can provide me with one example of an "aspect" of the "media" you think is happily bashing our troops I'll cut off my balls and hand them to you.

  • July 14, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    It's NOT fiction. Jeeeeesus ! Great so far though.

    by G100

    All the people portrayed in the series are real Recon Marines from Godfather to Colbert to Person. The reporter is the reporter who wrote the book, hence the series FROM the book.<p> <p>It's closer to the book than I thought it would be but it does diverge slightly in places. THe one thing I was worried about was scale but none of it seemed "fake" to me and I have high hopes for th urban encounters if they keep this level of authenticity up. And BTW things get full on fairly quick so this isn't like Jarheads it's the polar opposite.<p> <p>Some of the characters are startlingly close to their real life counterparts and Fruity Rudy IS the REAL Rudy Reyes !!!<p> <p>You WILL get to distinguish the characters and the likes of Trombley and Person etc. will soon be well established. Likewise Captain America will soon be making people gasp with his sheer fucked up stupidity.<p> <p>Actually some of the dialogue seems toned down at the Mo but no doubt we may yet hear much more of Person in full hilarious flow.<p> <p>Those who think this will be a one sided portrayal of rampaging unthinking Marines are waaaaaay off the bat as there acts of real heroism and acts of startling humanitarianism amongst the carnage. And those who think it's going to skirt the civilian deaths and some of the darker side of the invasion are equally wrong.<p> <p>If some of the colossal dumbasses spouting off about "Hollywood" can't handle the fact that this isn't the kindergarden black and white view of the world they themselves are limited by then I recommend they watch Hogans Heroes instead as that seems ideally suited to their intellectual and emotional level.<p> <p>And before the Douchebags accuse the reporter of being some kind of bleeding heart wimp he was in the lightly armoured HumVee with the Marines when all this went down.

  • July 14, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Finally, a fair portrail of the war!

    by Luscious.868

    I've avoided all of the Hollywood turd fests that have dealt with the war up until know because I knew what they were mostly liberal crap, just like I've avoided Fo New's special reports on the war because I knew they'd be conservative crap. This series, however, follows the book closely and the book paints a very fair and accurate portrait of the initial invasion and some of the men who took part, warts and all. It isn't black and white folks, there is plenty of grey area here and guess what? That's real life.

  • July 14, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    John Adams was overly theatric, but JohnAztec...

    by Brians Life

    ...is a fuckin' idiot!<br><br>Does he realize he claimed he could show how gay SOME ONE ELSE is by wishing he could ram his balls in their mouth!?!?!<br><br>Dude, you're either 14 or a fucking moron...either way, do us a favor and take a fucking class!

  • July 14, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Hahaha, Brians Life beat me to it.....

    by BangoSkank

    You want to force someone to suck your dick to show them how gay they are? That's fucking brilliant man. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I specifically held off ..

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    commenting until after I had a chance to view. After watching ep.1 Get Some last night, I can confidently say that I will be tuning in for the remainder. <p> To all you shitponies who were calling this "lib propaganda" BEFORE IT HAD EVEN AIRED, check your bullshit at the door. It portrays war as it is, as it has been and as it always shall be: shades of motherfucking grey. <p> I know, I know - you want black & white becasue it's so much easier to digest through your red, white and blue brain/colon, but there's 'reality-as-portrayed-through-your-favorite-fair-and-balanced-news-outlet' and then there's actual reality. History will tell the tale.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    But the dude from Inside Man was annoying as fuck.

    by GQtaste

    The dude who played steve or steveo or stevey. You know, one of the bank robbers? Last night he got on my nerves.

  • July 14, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Also [(very) minor spoilage]

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    I loved the incoming SCUD/potential gas-attack scene that had Mr. Rolling Stone swallowing his dip as he struggled with his protective suit. Funny shit.

  • July 14, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    No love for Ziggy?!

    by HoboCode

    I didn't read the book, but I did read the short story-length original Rolling Stone articles, and Person was that obnoxious. Ziggy from The Wire couldn't have been better casting.

  • July 14, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    It's real

    by MrMojok

    I was in the Marine Corps for about ten years, during the late 80s-late 90s. This is how they act. This is how they talk. There is nothing in the show that is unrealistic whatsoever. Good day, sirs.

  • July 14, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    THis show is FAIR and BALANCED

    by Dogmatic

    (not the Fox News definition either...) <P> I tuned in expecting to tune out for episode 2...it started off being the Marine testosterone fest that I thought was gonna sadly be but then when they left Camp Mathilda it got decidedly real....I realized the first half they were just focusing on the soldiers that are war junkies in the first 30 minutes. <P> This show is great b/c it shows that all the soldiers are different with different perspectives and views and the war plays out in front of us through their eyes. It is pretty great to watch actually. <P> We get to see the racist mofos that like to make fun of the the surrendering Iraqis who can't understand them....and we get to see the Marines who are disgusted that they have to turn said captives away back to Saddam's death squads instead of helping them (nice touch that they encountered such a death squad earlier and had good intution about them but were ordered to let them pass...geez!) <P> So, yeah this series is gonna rock if it keeps up with this kinda multi-spectrum approach.

  • July 14, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Fruity Rudy is simply "body conscious" drturing

    by G100

    In the book it acknowledges he's not gay in the sexual orientation sense but the Marines call him Fruity Rudy because he's so beautiful. Simple as that.<p> <p>BTW he wants to move to San Francisco because "there's no fat people there" and "Chinese martial arts are very much part of the culture."<p> <p>He IS a Warrior though and you will see this. He is the units best martial artist & one of the strongest Marines. He lived in a Dojo and used to compete Nationally in Karate and Tai-chi as well as fighting in exhibitions with the Chinese National Team.

  • July 14, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST

    the reason wingnuts attack anything about iraq before it airs

    by bacci40

    is because these fucking dirtbags, these fucking traitors to our country, these fucking reaganzombieites,know that there is no way to portray the war in a positive light...it is called cognitive dissonance...if they ever woke up from their collective stupors, then the scenes from the happening would be occuring in real life...led by fat el druggo taking a header off the eib building

  • July 15, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Pretty dang spiffy so far.

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    Lived pretty damn close to Camp Pendleton for most of my life and have worked on base, and the kids in Iraq are just like the Marines I've known. Felt like I knew where half of the episode went just because of conversations I've had with peeps who did tours of Iraq. Looking forward to the rest of the series. <p> <p> And really, the whole line about Saddam and the pussy infrastructure in Iraq was as classic as anything in this week's Venture Bros. episode...

  • July 15, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Excellent first segment...

    by morGoth

    ...and I'm betting it will only get better over the next six. I was interested enough to watch it again last night.<p>One thing I didn't see, thankfully, was any sort of political side-taking. I like the fact that it's just the soldiers in combat and no subtext attempt or any other biased blathering in either the right or left direction. Can't wait until Sunday!

  • July 15, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    As for the dialogue...

    by morGoth

    ...it sounds pretty much like a typical Talkback {[:^)