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Moriarty Visited Rob Cohen On The MUMMY 3 Sound Mixing Stage To See How The Film’s Shaping Up!

Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here. I remember when the idea of a post-production visit for a reporter was a fairly unusual thing, at least for online writers. But in the last few years, many of the studios have embraced the idea of doing very controlled “editing bay” visits, where you sit down with the director or the producer or both or the star or whoever, and they show you a clips package on a soundstage. It’s like what I did for THE INCREDIBLE HULK a few months ago. And it’s an interesting way of giving the filmmaker a chance to sort of lay out his version of what film he thinks he’s making. It’s part of the marketing plan now, with more and more sites being invited to the visits. What it’s not is spontaneous, and despite them calling them “editing room visits,” it’s pretty rare to ever see anyone editing. So I was a little surprised by the approach that Rob Cohen and Universal took when they invited me out to Santa Monica to the sound mixing stage where they were tweaking the opening reel of Cohen’s new MUMMY sequel. And while I was there, he did indeed go through the reel with his sound mixing and effects mixing teams, tweaking and fine-tuning, listening to this effect or that hiss or that pop in the dialogue track, making sure everything was sugar-sweet. It’s the same sound mixing stage where I saw the first rough assembly of the opening to TEAM AMERICA, while Matt and Trey were still shooting. It’s a pretty great space, and I’ve got a list of about 50 movies I’d like to screen a Dolby surround print of in there. The first reel of the film deals with the legend of the new villain, Emperor Han, based on the legends about the first real Emperor of China and his quest for immortality. Here, he makes a deal with a witch named Zijuan, played by the eternally-elegant Michelle Yeoh. When he crosses her, she curses him, and thus is born the Terra Cotta army, as every man under his command shares his fate. One thing I’ll say for the opening legend... a lot of it is location work, and Cohen’s absolutely crazy for China. He’s got a love for what he’s shooting, and it’s pretty obvious in how he shoots it. It’s a greatly romanticized take on the Far East, and a sharp left turn from the Egyptian theme that defined the first two movies and the SCORPION KING spin-offs. “But I got some Egypt in there,” Cohen insisted. “John Hannah’s got a club now. Imhotep’s. Egyptian-themed, so it’s in the film, but we’ve been able to really exaggerate it.” If you think it might be vaguely reminiscent of Club Obi-Wan, you would not be wrong. But don’t think Cohen’s unaware of the looming presence of that other archaeologist this summer. I told him how strange it was to see a post-MUMMY movie starring Indiana Jones, and how much it felt to me like Spielberg knew he was making a new Indy film in a digital Hollywood, and he made a really unhip version of one. And in doing so, I’m sure he looked at some of the movies that have really embraced it, like the two MUMMY movies. Going into this summer, I’m sure Universal and Cohen were hoping they could just make their movie well, release it well, and hope no one screamed at them for trying to steal Indy’s thunder. Now, though, since the general response to IJ&TKOTCS has been so tepid, it almost feels like the right end to the summer would be another version of the same film (old bull/young bull, a theme shared by both the Indy film and the Mummy film) that actually delivered on the fun and the thrills. And I’ll be damned, but it looks like that just might be the case. I am on the record as being a big, big fan of Rachel Weisz, both as an actress with a great deal of range, able to play dramatic roles of complexity and depth and also sweet silly comedy roles and even overly-sincere studio SF/action fare, and also as an all-around super-hottie. I absolutely miss Weisz in the footage I saw, although I am glad, having seen THE BROTHERS BLOOM, that she opted to do that film instead. It’s some of her best, most enjoyable work in any film. Besides which, Maria Bello may turn out to be an inspired replacement. Once I got my head around Rachel being gone, about halfway through Maria’s first scene, I realized how glad I was they picked another substantial actress to pick up the part, someone who does consistently interesting and real and challenging work. Even if I don’t love every film she’s in, Bello has always struck me as someone with real taste and who makes the most out of anything she’s given to play. She’s also strapping enough to be able to stand toe-to-toe with Brendan Fraser, who is really the one returning headliner. They’ve done their best to subtly age him up, but he’s still the perpetually youthful Fraser. In the reel-one stuff I saw, they make an interesting couple, having reached a point in their marriage where they are together out of habit rather than passion, and both of them are itching for the sort of adventure that brought them together in the first place. Rick (Fraser) spends his days pursuing one new hobby after another, abandoning each as soon as he starts, while Evelyn (Bello) has managed to become a romance novelist. Her two books, THE MUMMY and THE MUMMY RETURNS feature lurid covers and breathless descriptions of the life she left behind as a mother. The first MUMMY film was a mere nine years ago, but in the movies, over 21 years have passed. Their son Alex has grown up and is away at college when the film begins... ... or at least, that’s what they think. Truth is, Alex (series newcomer Luke Ford) is actually on a dig of his own, uncovering the tomb of The Emperor (Jet Li) and setting events in motion that eventually return his parents to the field, reconnect his family, resurrect two full armies of the dead, and somehow include some serious Yeti action. All of which sounds big and pulpy and fun. I’ve seen some design work for the Yetis and the other monsters in the film, some of it scratching an itch that was left when Cohen dropped out of Sony’s SINBAD project. Aaron Sims may not have the same namebrand cachet as Rick Baker or Stan Winston, but he studied under both of those guys, and he’s a pretty outstanding creature designer and creator in his own right now. I’m happy to admit that I’m most interested in the monster sequences in this film. That’s what THE MUMMY does differently than the INDY films... the supernatural is overt from frame one. They live in a world where the dead can walk the earth and curses work and magic is real and love is this giant thing that plays out over centuries. Like I said... pulp. I’ve only seen the first reel, like I said, which was all set-up. Fourteen minutes. The legend of the Terra Cotta Army takes up a good chunk of that reel, too, so I’ve seen very little of the rest of the film. No more than you guys have with the trailers. I was sent the ART OF book, which basically walks you through the whole movie in images, but with this much kinetic action, it’s ludicrous to think you’ll get any idea how the film works by looking at still photos. I like the look, the choices they made about how much CG to use. I want to see this stuff in motion. I hope the chemistry between Bello and Fraser works in the film, and even more importantly, I hope the chemistry between Ford and Fraser works. When Cohen and I stepped out of the editing room to take a seat for a few minutes and talk, the first thing I wanted to ask about was shooting in China with a film that leans on Chinese mythology so heavily. He told me how Universal co-produced the film with Chinese money, and how he hasn’t felt any direct pressure from China regarding the content of the movie, but how the real trick is getting a Western film approved for general release in China, which is something that only happens with a handful of movies a year. That sent us chatting about the burgeoning Chinese cinema industry right now, and how international film movements seem to erupt in different countries every few years, and next thing you know, we were chatting about Italian neo-realism and modern Korean cinema, and this guy, so roundly lambasted by fanboys sometimes, demonstrated a real casual, relaxed way of setting his Big Popcorn Movie into a context that is both deeply self-aware of what people expect from him as a director (he never once tried to sell me on this film as anything more than a big adventure film, and he didn’t dodge the notion of this as a sequel) and also determined to pay suitable tribute to something that’s very near and dear to his heart: China. Like I said, he’s a practicing Buddhist, and his time spent in China when shooting DRAGON, the Bruce Lee biopic in the ‘90s, not only left a mark on him but on his son, who is now studying abroad in China. Cohen has a home in Bali now, and he has to fly through Asia to get there, so spends much of his year in that part of the world. The first question I had for him about how much of the film is drawn from real Chinese mythology, sent him off on a (no-joke) 17 minute explanation of the real Terra Cotta warriors and the story of the First Emperor of China and his quest for immortality, and the way he told the story to me, the sort of intensity with which he recounted it and filled in the details that interested him the most... this is a guy who’s got a serious love of the subject. And say what you will about Cohen’s filmography, but it strikes me that his best-liked movies are films that have real passion behind them. DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY was so obviously, amazingly in-love with Bruce Lee that the affection rubs off on the viewer. And when we talked about shooting the racing sequences in FAST AND THE FURIOUS, Cohen revealed his inner gearhead, the motivation to actually get inside an engine during a race. More than that, though, that movie was a Hail Mary pass. “I really thought that was gonna be my last movie,” he confessed. “I had just turned 50. I was making this little car movie in the Valley. The studio didn’t pay any attention to us because no one cared.” And that realization set him free. He figured if he put every idea he had up on the screen and it failed, at least he put it all in the movie. He was obviously pleased with the way people responded to the movie, to the fact that it sparked a franchise for the studio that couldn’t even be bothered to visit the set when he was shooting, although he doesn’t sound like he was particularly pleased with either sequel to his film. That’s one of the things that’s sort of bizarre about him doing a sequel to someone else’s film for Universal. Then again, STEALTH was a setback for him. He was supposed to make SINBAD, but as he put it, “Amy lost faith in me after STEALTH, and she cancelled the movie.” He was already working with Keanu Reeves, who was going to star, as well as his effects and design teams. When he was offered THE MUMMY 3, one of the first things that attracted him was the chance to use some of the prep he’d just done, turn that energy into something similar, something that dovetailed neatly with his own interests. Stephen Sommers handed this film off to him pretty much entirely. Sommers and his partners are producers on the movie, but they didn’t push their vision of the film on Cohen. Instead, they let him make his own movie. Cohen’s been an early adapter for CGI, using it extensively in photo-real sequences in FAST AND THE FURIOUS and STEALTH, but on this film, he’s pushing back in the other direction, trying to do things on-set, practical as much as possible. He was desperate to shoot live stunts and real locations and giant sets for this film, and CGI is more of a finishing tool, something to augment what can’t be done for real. More and more, we’re seeing filmmakers take this stance, push in this direction. It was the same thing when I was on the set of TERMINATOR: SALVATION last week. “Practical” has become an industry buzzword, and that’s exciting. Cohen pushed Fraser to do as much of his own stunt work as possible, and then really pushed the sleight of hand to sell the idea that Fraser was the guy doing everything. He’s particularly proud of the six-minute chase through Shanghai, which he says was done by only the real actors for the entire sequence. His secret weapon on the film may surprise and shock INDIANA JONES fans. His second-unit director was the legendary Vic Armstrong, the guy who helped define the action sensibilities of the Indy films. He was Harrison Ford’s stunt double, for god’s sake. He’s a huge name in this business, and the way Cohen tells it, Armstrong wasn’t invited to work on INDIANA JONES & THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, and was actually quite hurt by the slight. When Cohen was looking for a second-unit guy, he just assumed Vic was booked for the year until he was told, “Not necessarily.” The result is an emphasis on finding new ways to shoot physical gags that you could combine with CG elements to create scenes that feel like they’re genuinely dangerous, even with unreal elements involved. I’m excited to see how the scenes came together, because it certainly sounds like they’re trying some radical, wild things. One of the last things ahead of Cohen when we spoke was the PG-13 dance he was in the midst of, and he was definitely having to lose some of the details he enjoyed in the film. There’s a moment in the first part of the movie where someone gets drawn and quartered by horses, and in the first cut, you actually saw the limbs come loose and bounce away along the dirt. Not in the version I saw, though. Cohen was irritated to have lost it, but he was also well aware that the eventual DVD release will feature any footage he has to lose in these last weeks before the theatrical release. I have to say... if nothing else, I walked away from my morning in Santa Monica with a new respect for Cohen’s love of his job. I’ve met filmmakers who are much more “geek approved,” and they struck me as guys who were almost tortured by the job. Cohen’s the opposite. He’s thankful for every single time he’s allowed behind the camera, and I think he’s throwing everything he’s got at this movie. I’m seeing it Sunday night so I can interview the cast next week, and I’m genuinely looking forward to it. It’s got to be an improvement from the second film, which was wretched. I figured that was a given when I walked into this conversation with Cohen, but walking away, it sounds like he feels like the film he made stands on its own, and I find myself curious to see if he’s pulled it off. In a summer this good, with this many good films out there right now, I hope this becomes one more pleasant surprise.

Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • July 12, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for this one...

    by Finding Forrestal

    It will make up for the Indy debacle.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Could be fun...

    by Charlie & Tex certainly couldn't be any more insipid than the last one. We hope that it does turn out to be more popular with the public than the last Indiana Jones movies, as it will be a way of Vic Armstrong getting his own back on Speilberg & Lucas for fucking him over...

  • July 12, 2008, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Mori, you're right about Cohen...

    by Finding Forrestal

    I've been following his MUMMY 3 making-of blog and, to my surprise, he comes off a lot better than expected. He's made some real stinkers but he seems intelligent and is genuinely in love with films and filmmaking. I'm hoping he knocks it out of the park with this one.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:42 a.m. CST

    I dunno...

    by HBO

    I still have mixed feelings about Mummy 3..

  • July 12, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST


    by drew mcweeny

    ... I do, too. I'm just saying that I'm certainly more optimistic than I was previously. Cohen's made a lot of right choices here, but the proof will be in the film itself, of course.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST


    by ButtfuckZydeco


  • July 12, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    My chief complaint...

    by Nordling

    about the MUMMY films is the jokey, almost postmodern vibe of these films which doesn't work for me against the 1930s backdrop. Some of the dialogue lines are just clunkers when applied to this setting. I actually preferred THE MUMMY RETURNS to the first, and the action sequences are really well-shot, it's just this modern attitude that permeates the first two films that keeps them from being timeless to me. It's difficult not to compare them to RAIDERS, which is the obvious inspiration for these movies, and how the dialogue was meaningful and not just being clever for the sake of clever.<p>I'll say that this movie is looking better the more imagery I see from it. I'll likely see it.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Oded Fehr's gotta eat

    by SoupDragon

    No Sallah in Indy and now no ...(Whatshisnameagain?) in Mummy 3. A bad year to be the Arabic sidekick.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Hey Mori...

    by Seany-Wan

    What can you tell us about Terminator? You luvky dog!! Cheers.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Third Cohen movie with DRAGON in the title...

    by palimpsest

    Let's not forget DRAGONHEART, y'all. Actually, yes, let's do just that. Cohen's a competent director of forgettable entertainments, like Stephen Sommers and Chuck Russell. Ill end up seeing this, because I likes me some Mummy movies, and there's rooom this summer for the flick after the damp squib of IJ.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Naaa XXX 2 was Lee Tamahori

    by palimpsest

    Cohen did the first one. File Tamahori also under "competent director of forgettable entertainments", though ONCE WERE WARRIORS was awesome. Plus he's one of the few Hollywood directors who looks good in a dress, wig and killer heels...

  • July 12, 2008, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Jet Li

    by deanbarry

    As a butt kicking mummy? I'm there.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:31 a.m. CST

    More so than Rachel Weisz...

    by Finding Forrestal

    ...I'll miss the contribution of the late, great Jerry Goldsmith. His brilliant score for THE MUMMY transformed a "good" film into a "great" one, IMO.

  • July 12, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    "...since the general response to IJ&TKOTCS has been so tepid...


    Just wondering... Is "tepid" a euphemism for "a severely disappointing stinking pile of shit"?

  • July 12, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST


    by HBdoubleJ

    I'll take Mummy 2 over Transformers. I'll take Rob Cohen over Micheal Bay. With my low expectations, I actually think I might enjoy this movie.

  • July 12, 2008, 7:36 a.m. CST

    The first two were embalmed tosh


    So the third one can't be good and doesn't even have fucking mummies!?<P>The trailer with the shootout in some asian town and a plane going down with no chutes is more than a little bit Temple of Doom<P>I thought the new Indy was piss poor but the mummy movies are just total shite!

  • July 12, 2008, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Has Cohen

    by kwisatzhaderach

    ever made a good movie? The guy is a total hack. Too bad Armstrong wasn't invited back on Jones though, the fight sequences were the lamest ever.

  • July 12, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones raped my summer

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    That is all.

  • July 12, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Lee Tamahori gotta eat

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Hence the whole blowjobs for money thing.

  • July 12, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Wait, Bello is playing Weisz's character?

    by newc0253

  • July 12, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST


    by Redfive!

    Im really hoping this film is much better because there NEVER should of been an INDY 4.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Another thing about Cohen...

    by Redfive!

    he did produce The Monster Squad,The Running Man and The Legend of Billie Jean.3 great 80s films.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    It's going to be hard believing

    by BurtGummer

    that Fraser and Bello have an adult son, but i'll give it shot.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I really enjoyed 'Stealth'...

    by J.B.M.A.

    I saw a lovely HD version of it and though the script was all over the place, the film was incredibly well directed. The dog-fight sequences are quite remarkable - streets ahead of Cohens work on his other movies.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the nice piece Moriaty

    by heyscot

    I enjoyed Indy 4 although I freely admit it didn't have the chemistry moments between Indy and Marion that I expected. I felt like she wasn't given anything in the script. I also didn't care too much for Shia as the sidekick, but I liked the general idea of the plot, and the one moment I absolutely loved was the look on Harrison Ford's face when he sees Marion for the first time. That was worth the price of admission to me. I'm looking forward to the Mummy movie now more than ever and will see it in the theaters because I trust Cohen's Mummy movies and enjoy the spectacle. I'm worried about Bello because Weisz is simply so awesome. If I were Cohen I would've waited until Weisz was free but the whole thing was probably beyond his control. And Bello's pretty good so we'll see.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Rob Cohen

    by rogueleader66

    Has made a lot of movies I really enjoy, so I am confident this new Mummy movie will be good. Stealth was merely ok, it was "Short Circuit" without the comedy. Dragon:The Bruse Lee Story was very good, and I liked Dragonheart a lot as well, I am an old D & D geek, so it was cool seeing a Dragon portrayed in a D & D'ish type manner. I will see this when it comes out.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Monkey butt - Response Tepid means...

    by critch

    Apparently "Tepid response" means it'll be the highest grossing movie of the year with good drops every weekend. Only on the internet is it hated.

  • July 12, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST



    Not one person I've spoken to has said KOTC is a great movie. They either hate it or say it was "OK I guess". People (like me) only saw KOTC because of the previous movies. Have you looked up the grosses for the Star Wars prequels? How many people do you know would call them good movies? Are you saying that KOTC deserves its box-office gross from its own merit?

  • July 12, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    by AllieJamison

    So ..will the rather surprising but understandable "it won't be as bad as the last one (and the one before and the one before the one before)"-buzz prove true? This appears to become a summer of actually decent till great blockbusters. I guess I'm still too shocked about the weird concept and perception of what Indiana Jones should do/be exposed to in a film baring his very name, the Berg, Lucas and Ford have developed over the years that I can't decide wether the film was decent or just really bad. <br> Interesting that Armstrong hadn't even been ASKED to work on KOTCS. (Well, at least he didn't have to act as Spielberg's literal 'partner in crime' in doing those mostly uninspired action set pieces.) But didn't he work on WOTW? Did Spielberg realize that he's no good anymore during that shoot? Or were they just too enchanted with Dan Bradley?

  • July 12, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I want this to be better than Indy 4...

    by BrooseTheScharuk

    ...Not just because Indy 4 was so crappy (fuck nostalgia, it was garbage), but because I want to see a grade B director come along and show Spielberg and Lucas up for the lazy, self-important, out of touch studio executives they've become. They should both just pack it in and devote their time to planning their trips to annual Bilderberg meetings with Tom Hanks or whatever it is those fucking power whores do with their spare time.

  • July 12, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Weird, especially as Armstrong has doubled for Ford

    by palimpsest

    since RAIDERS in loads of movies (PATRIOT GAMES, even SABRINA). There's a passing mention to not working on CRYSTAL SKULL on Armstrong's website (but nothing contentious)...

  • July 12, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    The "Rock Scorpion" in The Mummy Returns...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    ...remains one of the fall-down funniest horrible CGI effects in recent memory. I was literally HOWLING with laughter when that popped up.

  • July 12, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Indy response tepid?

    by Wormie1

    Indy 4 is the highest grossing film of the year so far. The reviews were generally good. It's ludicrous to imply the film has not been successful. Personally, I don't give a fuck about Harry Potter or Shrek, but only a moron would say they are not successful movies.

  • July 12, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by RogerConverse

    I think the reponse to Indy 4 was tepid. A lot of the money Indy 4 was from people who were reluctant to see it because of bad word of mouth, but had to anyway out of love for the character. This movie had the potential to make tons more money than it did, I think they squandered it away with scenes like the nuclear fridge incident, which insults the audience. And honestly, the plot with the aliens, just terrible. They should have done something else. No suggestions there though, they are supposedly the great storytellers. This particular story sucked.

  • July 12, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Go see Hellboy 2

    by Sparhawk38

    That's all you need to know.

  • July 12, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    And for 5 mins worth of internet mooching

    by palimpsest - Vic Armstrong's promo reel, cut to some vintage Rolling Stones

  • July 12, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by g-ride9000


  • July 12, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    From the trailer:

    by comedian_x

    "We're going to do this my way -- I've put down more mummy's in my time than you." <p> "ONE mummy dad"<p> "Yeah... ONE mummy -- TWICE!" <p> The action doesn't worry me, Moriarty (and never did) it's the in between bits that Cohen has been known to ruin.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    i cant wait.....

    by j2talk

    seeing the trailer infront of Hellboy on Friday, you could hear people in the audience saying variations on -This is what Indy should have Been !!!! I think they have got a winner here

  • July 12, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Looks good to me.

    by mr.brownstone

    As soon as I saw the giant white snow ape I was sold.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by mr.brownstone

    you made me do a spittake all over my screen. hilarious.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST


    by mr.brownstone

    I hate Mummies too. Their attitude fucking sucks. Why won't they stay DEEEAAAAAAAD!!!!

  • July 12, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    g-ride is obviously 10

    by Ladonite

    and jealous of the younger models.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Did you suck his dick too, Moriarty?

    by Nate Champion

    He loves Italian neo-realism and contemporary Korean cinema but he's making Mummy 3... why am I not impressed?

  • July 12, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Mo mummy mo problems

    by Vern

    I had to sit out part two because I just can't take another fucking Stephen Sommers movie. He's not as crazy as Michael Bay but he has the same part of his brain missing where he does not know that pacing or rhythm even exist. He literally does not know what they are. I heard the insurance companies require him to wear special earplugs on set because if he heard the sound of a metronome or ticking watch he would explode.<p> Rob Cohen also makes alot of crappy movies but for my tastes they're way more watchable. Sommers makes bad-stupid, Cohen makes good-stupid. All the stupid shit in THE MUMMY grates on my nerves, but in STEALTH they have an exchange like "He's downloading MP3s from the internet." "How many?" (typity typity type) "All of them!" and I get a kick out of it. That's some funny shit.<p> So I am semi-excited for this one. I saw the trailer and thought Jesus - Jet Li, Michelle Yeoh, an army of terra cotta warriors, an army of zombies, a three-headed dragon, at least one Yeti, and not directed by Stephen Sommers... even in a summer with actual good movies I'm not gonna miss this ridiculousness.<p> There is a catch though... why couldn't Brendan Fraser be the one that left? I realized while watching the trailer that I kind of hate that guy as an actor. Nothing against him personally, I'm sure he's a nice guy. He must be to become so successful while rarely making a good movie and in those ones only being praised for not sucking. Check out in the trailer when the pilot laughs about how he doesn't know how to land or something like that. Fraser gives a sarcastic laugh and then says "Why am I laughing?"<p> Buddy, are you for real? I didn't see the script but clearly the idea is that you laugh along with the guy and then catch yourself laughing. The sarcastic laugh does not work here. *Man* do I hope Jet Li wins.

  • July 12, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 response 'tepid'?

    by Dangkok_Bangerous

    $738,920,965 worldwide and it only just fell out of the top ten.

  • July 12, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST



    Just because a shitload of people saw it, doesn't mean they liked it.

  • July 12, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Indy 4

    by Ted Brautigan

    What the fuck were you people expecting? The second coming? Seems like expectations are the key for me anymore. I went into KOTC knowing this was the same lame Lucas who made the SW prequels. I liked it. So did 90% of the people I've talked to about it. It wasn't perfect but it was certainly better than last years highly anticipated Shia movie. And I got no problem with Michael Bay. I like 'splosions, sue me.

  • July 12, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    For the record

    by vadakinX

    I loved Indy IV, favourite film of the summer so far. That movie is just too damn fun not to like.

  • July 12, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Pedantic as Fuck but -

    by Samson_K

    Isn't this film only set about 10 years after the last one?<BR<BR>Sorry that's really fucking pedantic yet I still can't stop typing<BR><BR>HELP ME!

  • July 12, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    by ButtfuckZydeco

  • July 12, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Stop Throwing Numbers for Crystal Crap!

    by Sidepocket

    To off-quote Kevin Smith. "Its Indiana Fucking Jones! It could be a turd in a bowl but if it said Indiana Jones on it, thing would make 8 billion dollars in 3 hours." The key is to make a good amount of money AND get amazing reviews. Indy obviously would get the money, but the people were mixed and left this one cold. Meanwhile Iron Man did well and got critical acclaim, and Dark Knight is going to escalate that into un-fucking-believable levels.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    In fairness to Stephen Sommers...

    by palimpsest

    ...and there's a phrase I'd never thought I'd type in my life...DEEP RISING is a fun movie, and Treat Williams is splendid in it. The first MUMMY was OK, the sequel was dire and VAN HELSING managed to take a genius premise and ass-rape it with a malformed cock.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    And not in a good way.

    by palimpsest

    In case the above required clarification.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Rob Cohen is a nice guy

    by geraldbeans

    I've seen some of his "making-ofs" and the guy is so cool. I'm glad he got a paycheck but The Mummy?? Why are we still making these films? They're so dumb.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Box office numbers

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Indiana Jones has taken $309 million stateside in 51 days. Iron Man has taken $313 million in 71 days. Indiana Jones will overtake Iron Man this week to become the most successful movie of the summer. It'll be interesting to see how The Dark Knight stacks up. Batman Begins made it to $205 million back in 05. And before you ask, yes, I am bored.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Dragon the Bruce Lee story...

    by Tarl_Cabot

    completely ignored his closest friend,training partner and CO-FOUNDER of Jeet Kune DO, Filipino Kali master Dan Inosanto, the guy whom Bruce Lee entrusted to teach his art while he pursued a career in the movies. That was unbelievably poor taste to leave him out of the movie...

  • July 12, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Vic Armstrong Was Doing I Am Legend!!

    by genrefanboy

    That is why he was not invited to do Indy4 as they were filming at the same time and needed someone few months before to prep. Spielberg even mentioned this somewhere when asked about it in the making of Indy4 web videos.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I bet Vic regrets that! I Am Legend was woeful.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Gods & Monsters

    by MasterBateman

    That movie shows that Brendan Fraser is capable of delivering a good performance under proper direction. I don't usually care for Brendan, but Gods & Monsters is truly one of the greatest films of the past quarter century.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Weisz > Bello.

    by Raymar

    Maria (henceforth EINO) is just plain fugly. Also, Free Tibet and boycott Mummy 3! (and the Olympics!)

  • July 12, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Same two or three people with numerous alts

    by wash

    spamming "Nuking The Fridge" = does not get old!!!!

  • July 12, 2008, 6:32 p.m. CST


    by drew mcweeny

    ... I know when I AM LEGEND was shooting, and I know when INDY 4 was shooting. That story strains credulity a bit...

  • July 12, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST


    by RogerConverse

    tepid means lukewarm. Batman and Robin's response was not tepid, it was absolutely horrible. Indy wasn't that bad, I never thought I'd be saying this but I thought it was great aside from the plot.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I like Maria Bello

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I think she's being unfairly treated in this film's marketing. If you've seen the trailer, and if you blinked, then you might have missed her appearance in it. It's like they're trying to hide the fact that Rachel Weisz isn't in this.

  • July 12, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Rob Cohen.....

    by rben

    didn't he direct the first x-files movie and now the new one? or am i thinking of someone else?

  • July 12, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST



    I hate to veer off topic, but I would really like to know the real reason Vic didn't work on Indy.. <p> Anyone got the inside scoop?

  • July 12, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST



    I think Vic wasn't used on Indy IV because from what I could see, there wasn't one fuckin' real stunt in the thing. It was one big CG crapfest.

  • July 12, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST

    What? Moriarty is reviewing fucking 15-25 minutes of a movie -


    they reviewed whole fucking movies on this site? I don't know how these hacks get off seeing footage that none of us have seen then telling us their opinion of it. Who the fuck are they? I wish they went back to just pure innuendo and rumor - cuz actually seeing stuff is fucked up. FUCK YOU MORIARTY and that fatard friend of yours!

  • Everyone is just going to use the release of this movie to lazily pile on Lucas and Spielberg and bag on IJ some more. People will be loving yetis and hating gophers.

  • July 12, 2008, 10 p.m. CST

    I thought it was 10 minutes...

    by Mace Tofu

    BTW Vic kicked butt in INDY 1

  • July 12, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by Nasty In The Pasty

    ...that's Rob BOWMAN who directed the first X-Files movie (but not the second, that's Chris Carter).

  • July 12, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by j2talk

    why are they making these moveis? Because people like them....lots of people whould much rather sit thru movies like the Mummy than sit thru another Sideways or There Will be Blood...there is always going to be a market for these movies....and if i remember correctly- we are going to get 2 more after this one....

  • July 13, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST


    by quantize

    wake me when the mummy movies are gone

  • July 13, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Sweet outfit!

  • July 13, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    It's pieces like this

    by ButtfuckZydeco

    that make me want to break out my HD-DVD player to play some Gods of War.<p> It left me feeling like I?ve read a puff piece that I was the star of, a great story that also features really involving action

  • July 13, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    The Mummy Movies

    by ROBEZOB

    I've always been a big fan of the mummy movies. they're carefree and silly. I can't wait for this new one, and I don't know why everyone craps on mummy returns. it was awesome.

  • July 13, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Fraser was pretty good...

    by REDD

    in "The Quiet American".

  • July 13, 2008, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Bashing someone based on rumors

    by AlwaysThere

    Can't go wrong with that kind of logic, or can you?

  • July 13, 2008, 8 p.m. CST

    Met Bello, she was very nice. Our Chef wouldn't make her a burge

    by Stormwatcher

    Was kinda a dick move on his part. Especially since she ordered a 250 bottle of red wine.

  • July 13, 2008, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones is overrated

    by Prossor

    must of gotten swept in it to automatically think it's great with family and friends, anyway i could give a shit less about ANY of the movies, yea theyre interesting fluff but they never clicked the way the original Star Wars trilogy did for me. the original became a bland twat-fest after they lelft the jungle, with sappy spielbergian shit and stupid cutesy shit. "do you know what you did to my life? " BLEEEH awful stinky poop. also ford is an actor in general is fucking overrated. the same ol' gee-whiz mellowness everyman-persona is NOT FOR ME. thats why i liked the original star Wars trilogy which divided up the screentime to different characters instead of relying on one, and Hammill is a more likable lead than pissy-Ford. if i could i'd put a bullet in the heads of all the IJ movies, and throw them in ditches ASAP.

  • July 13, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    KOTCS Got a Tepid Response????

    by robotdevil

    WTF planet are you living on Mori? IJ made $750,000,000 worldwide and is the highest grossest film of the year. By what convoluted, self-determined, think youre too good for everyone else, measure can that possibly be considered "tepid"?

  • July 13, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Sidepocket and Kevin Smith...

    by robotdevil

    Yeah, wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped throwing numbers in face when it comes to Indiana Jones. I mean, without the, you know... objective numbers, it's just so much easier to go around pretending like your personal opinion is a mass reaction. Damn evidence! Getting in the way of your self-celebration. Oh well. And as for Kevin Smith, his point is as stupid as his movies. Indiana Jones was guaranteed a big opening weekend, but it was not guaranteed 750 mil worldwide and the biggest gross of the year. If it really sucked as bad the haters wish it did, it would have fallen of just like every big-opening but ultimately shit quality movie rather than... you know, nearly doubling the haul of Iron Man.

  • July 13, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Mummy Franchise Vs. Indy Franchise

    by BYOBkenobi

    I don't like where Moriarty is loading this new Mummy film to be some sort of response to Indy4....and how it may fill the void Indy4 left for some of its audience. Mummy will never be anything like Indy on it's best day. Indy is revered and has WAY too much history and sentiment than Mummy ever will. Indy4...I JUST saw it on July 11, 2008 with my wife. I can't say it was everything I hoped it would be, I did however enjoy the shit out of only complaints were the heavy handed reactions from Ford to Shia when Shia did anything remotely "intuitive or intelligent"...Indy had absolutely zero control of the outcome, and the film just felt a little out of place from the other 3 previous films, but not because it was because it felt too modern and by modern I mean not in the 40's and it's setting being almost 1960. Other than that, I can't complain too much. I enjoyed it and will many more times on DVD.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Hate to say it...

    by conspiracy

    but the trailer for this thing is more fun than Indy IV was. Pure Popcorn fluff, no expectations beyond 2 hours of Mummy stupidity.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:52 a.m. CST

    And as Far as Indy 4's boxoffice...

    by conspiracy

    it is like the upcoming election, announce it and they will come vote..even if the choice is between shit and puke. Put the Lucas/Spielberg name on a film of Jet Lucas masturbating for 2 hours to a picture of Carrie Fisher back in her crack whore days and it'll turn in 9 figure totals, guaranteed. Really...people are programmed like a room full kids at the L.Ron Hubbard school for issue laden retards and celebrities; "oooohhhh Spielberg/Lucas Film....Must see." I'm actually of a mind that Indy 4's numbers are Very Very low all things considered....300M tells me everyone saw repeat business; just like the damned Sequels. If people actually liked it, and went twice, as with the original Raiders or SW trilogy..this thing would be doing much higher dollar amounts. Do the'll see.

  • July 14, 2008, 3:10 a.m. CST

    And yes.....after 19 fucking years..

    by conspiracy

    I was expecting the motherfucking second coming. 19 years to get a 2 hour story right and the best they could come up with is overdone aliens, nuked fridges, half assed CGI and a army of Monkeys lead by a B actor? Where were the checks and balances..could SOMEBODY have just told George "No" when he blew these ideas out his bloated ass? Is it so hard to stand up to the guy? Or is it more important to just get the product to market, hype the shit out of it, promise great things, then after you have relieved the masses of their hard earned $12 bucks and given them something just a small step above a Sci-Fi channel Movie of the week go on to claim.."Well you expect to much." At least this Mummy shite isn't pretending to be anything other than what it is..fluff.

  • July 14, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    For what it's worth....

    by godzillasushi

    I always thought after the first Mummy they might try to remake all the old Universal monster movies with new and interesting stories. And I thought that was a good idea if only because The Mummy was so cool at the time. I figured if they made them like that, then CftBL would be equally great building a mythology around them. I'm kind of dissapointed that it never happened, as sad as most remakes have been lately. But aside from that tangent I am happy to see another Mummy movie. Why not? In the big picture it doesn't do any harm to give us some cool stuff to watch. The second Mummy movie was just that, some cool stuff to see. Even with the movie being so lackluster. A blimp? Come on! Its almost come full circle now because part of me wishes they would keep the franchise going by exploring other types of mummies around the world. Delve into other history. Not Inca's or something as overdone as that. But maybe Native Americans, or the Crusades. Have his son continue the series like Indy is supposedly up for. But I only hope to see those with somebody capable of making a solid movie. I'm not talking Sci-Fi channel Sunday afternoon movie directors or anything as bad as that.

  • July 14, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Thank you conspiracy....

    by RogerConverse

    Aliens, nuked fridges, etc... could someone have just told Lucas no? These are terrible ideas and exactly the reaction I had to the film. There wasn't the repeat business like they used to get. They left a lot of money on the table. I don't know about worldwide gross, but here in America Iron man has gross 312 Mil so far, and Indiana Jones gross 308 mil... Double the gross? Not even close.

  • July 14, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Vic Armstrong and 007

    by Seacor

    Vic Armstrong was Stunt Coordinator and Second Unit Director for numerous James Bond films going back to The Living Daylights through Die Another Day. He was stunt double for Ford in Raiders, stunt arranger for Doom and stunt coordinator for Crusade.

  • July 14, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Sorry, this needed Weisz...

    by tvspace be anything even remotely interesting. We simply want Rachel. Why is it we get "hard core" reviews until the reviewer gets close to the director or producer? Then it becomes Fanboy heaven! The effects should be okay. The story will be average.

  • July 14, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    PS. Indy raped my summer too.

    by tvspace

    I still haven't recovered from that digital pile of moviemaking poo.

  • July 14, 2008, noon CST

    Saw it

    by GopherTrace

    The Hymalaya gun battle with the yetis is really cool.

  • July 14, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Raiders is one of the greatest


    Movies ever, but Indy 4 sucked. Sorry. I tried to like it, almost forcing myself to, but it was a piece of shit. If it was even fun, i would've given it a pass, but it wasn't; i've never groaned more at a movie. Transformers was bad, but at least it was fun. Mummy 3 looks to have that fun factor Indy lacked.

  • July 15, 2008, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Looks like a fun popcorn movie to me

    by Glamour Fairy

    Cohen makes entertaining films most of the time. And yes Indy 4 was a disappointment. Except for seeing Shia in leather, it just didn't do it for me. Blah!

  • July 16, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST


    by pearlanddean

    Batman & Robin took £235M at the box office. Just because lots of people go out and see a film, doesn't make it good. No matter how many bad reveiews Indy 4 got, most fans (myself included) wanted to see it for themselves. It's only then the true horror dawned. I'll read every argument there is, you can't make me like that film.