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Yet another episode explores the untidy legacy of Jonas Venture as Brock and Rusty get trapped in different parts of the family compound's vast and forgotten basement. Homages to “The Shining,” “Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome” and probably lots of other ‘80s movies I just didn’t notice await. See it on Cartoon Network Sunday at 11:30 p.m. or just watch it here and now.

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  • July 11, 2008, 9:19 p.m. CST


    by ebonic_plague

  • July 11, 2008, 9:20 p.m. CST

    wow I'm second and I don't care

    by darthbauer

    watching spiderwick with the kiddos and waiting desperately for Dark Knight....yawn, I love summer

  • July 11, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    The Prodigy and The Art of Noise.

    by fiester

    Heh. Too funny how they like to incorporate bands into the show as characters. <p> "I go where the blacktion is."

  • July 11, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    "Now I got the Blue Balls in my Blood Eye"

    by woggerman

    Love this show! Can't believe we are more than halfway through the season!

  • July 11, 2008, 10:36 p.m. CST


    by wyvern

    JUst had to remind me that were halfway through you bastard.Good episode.There was even talk of french toast but their was none to be had.

  • July 11, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    pure genius....and fuck colbert

    by bacci40

    ya, i know the dude won the peabody, but when they forget their roots, you know their is no hope for a there any doubt that venture bros is the best animated show ever on tv...well maybe number 2, after the mighty fact, although out of their age range, would love to see the venture dudes take on that classic toon

  • July 11, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST


    by Gearfree

    Ya got me thinking man. Recently I managed to finally see the remake of Get Smart(it was ok). What hit me half way through the movie was how Carell sorta sounded like colbert as impossible. Hell, the guy could possibly even give the guy a little bit more range. Warburton has been getting great lines this season though. Yada yada, screw the Canadian embargo. Although I was surprised on how the commentary for the fith wasn't blocked.

  • July 11, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST


    by woggerman

    That was my second favorite line. As for the season being half over. Let's start praying now that the 4th season doesn't take as long to premiere as this season did. Though you can't rush genius.

  • July 11, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Oh snap doc are you ok?!

    by coolhanderik

    They also fit in a dude dressed as David Bowie from Ashes to Ashes. Good ep, not as good as last weeks but definitely up there. Loved The Shining reference.

  • July 11, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST


    by digitalcos

    Art of Noise, War Games, Resident Evil, Alien, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, The Shining, Journey to the Center of the Earth... crazy.

  • July 11, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST


    by Films_Not_Movies

    Great episode!

  • July 11, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST


    by stickmangrit

    and yeah, already got my TDK midnight ticket bought and paid for. it's Nolan's summer, we're just living in it.

  • July 11, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST


    by stickmangrit

  • July 12, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    he wrote a little poem...

    by Napoleon Park his dollies.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST

    those poor bastards

    by BrainFart

    being raised on vh1 classic. they pulled a good 180 on me, could have sworn they were going with an Avengers themed episode.

  • July 12, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Turn on the night vision.

    by Mockingbuddha

    Then Mr. White pushes the kleenex box away. Eh? Eh? YOU know what I'm talking about! Kleenex is SUCH a slut! Awesome. Hellboy II and a new Ventures in the same day! Plus I found out how to increase the disc space and speed of a Mac laptop by firewiring a bigger hard drive to it! Sweet day! Plus a weekend so no work tomorrow! Wheee!

  • July 12, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST

    I can't believe how great this season has been...

    by Kelvington

    they are really firing on all cylinders here, and have been all season long!

  • July 12, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    Jonas Venture is turning out to be a son bitch.

    by th1nk

    At first he was built up to be some mythical cannot be touched or soiled figure. But with this, Mother, and possibly fathering a child with Col. Horace Gentleman's wife. I think by seasons end, we're going to get a major reveal about Jonas.

  • July 12, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    So wonderful...

    by DanielKurland

    The Shining reference to the guy in the bear costume looking up was superb. And yeah the shit Jonas has done is really really terrible. I was happy to get an Orpheus heavy episode.

  • July 12, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST


    by eyeman

    VERY GEEKY, but my favorite part was when the Blackula hunter tells Orpheus "I bet you didn't know I also train carrier pigeons on the roof!" SWEET!

  • July 12, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    "I'll check if there's any Blackulas...

    by DanielKurland

    NOPE. No Blackulas." The hints of backstory and character we got with Jefferson Twilight were wonderful, as well as the callback to no black English vampires.

  • July 12, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    He's Not Just a Firestarter...

    by Aquatarkusman

    ... he's a TWISTED firestarter!

  • July 12, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    That Reminds Me of My Other Favorite Obscure Mid-90s Reference

    by Aquatarkusman

    When on that quadruple date in Season 2, Monarch mentions that Dr. Girlfriend used to look like the chick from Republica.

  • July 12, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    The theme of secret parentage

    by Laserhead

    A lot of characters in the show have murky parental origins, at least one due to Jonas Venture's sexcapades. Brock doesn't know his real father. So I just want to throw this out there: Has anyone pointed out that Brock and Jonas Venture have the same face? Could this be part of the show's overall story, and part of the reason much of this season deals with the de-idealizing of Jonas Venture-- everyone is a Venture Brother?

  • July 12, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Jonas Venture fails at Life

    by BonafidePaterFamilius

    What a sack! Little did we realized Rusty lives up to his father's legacy far more than Jonas Jr. does. And the Order of the Triad really came into their own in this one, especially Action Blacktion aka Jefferson "Rough Hands" Twilight. I think this was the best episode since "Ghosts of the Sargassum" or "Tag Sale" in the first season. Hammer and Publick can do no wrong and should be given a government grant to just sit around and think crap up all day to entertain us.

  • July 12, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Actually DanielKurland...

    by digitalcos

    To clarify, he never said there are no black English vampires. He said he called black vampires "blackulas" and not "African/American" vampires because that would be stupid. What if they're in England? Cause, England isn't you know... America.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    glad I didn't read the talk back

    by Loosejerk

    the prodigy/art of noise 1, 2 punch was brilliant. The stance of the girl from the art of noise video was perfect.

  • July 12, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Rusty and Monarch look alike too

    by magic_ninja

    Just saying...

  • July 12, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    I only have basic cable...

    by Napoleon Park

    ...but some higher channels leak through. I get a crappy, snowy signal on Cartoon network/[adult swim], though, so I'm really glad I can watch this online on my nice crisp 20.1" monitor about two feet in front of my face (and actually read signs, subtitles, etc.)<p>People talk about Lost, Dexter and the hip show du jour Mad Men being the Best Shows On TV and I honestly don't see why The Venture Brothers isn't included on that short list more often. Best cartoon show since "God, The Devil and Bob" or "Clerks," whichever one aired last. No, wait, JLU.

  • July 12, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Some artists draw everyone alike

    by Napoleon Park

    even the greats (Kirby) and near greats (Byrne). But the characters on the Venture Brothers are all so distinctive you have to wonder when they resemble each other.<p>Jonas Venture has a similar face and build to Brock Samson, who seems may have his own juvenile delinquent/bully illegitimate offspring. And Jonas Jr. has his dad's face but a dwarfish body.<p>Thaddeus "Rusty" Venture clearly resembles his archer The Monarch and also shares a similar appearance and identical hair color with Dr. Quymn. Her twins (do we still think Drew Quymn may be a transvestite?) vaguely resemble Dean Venture. Dean seems to take after Rusty while the buffer Hank takes after his likely mother (Rusty's former bodyguard). Last year we learned that many of the key characters attended college together, not we're getting hints that they may be related. Though I wouldn't go so far as to say "everyone is a Venture Brother," but it certainly is one big hyper-dysfunctional family.

  • July 12, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    And all those kids were from an orphanage...

    by Laserhead

    who's their dad? Just saying.

  • July 12, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    From Jackson Publick's Livejournal:

    by coolhanderik


  • July 12, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    yeah, that Prodigy joke

    by necgray

    My jaw dropped and then I laughed for the entire rest of the show. It's the literalist in me, I think. I was still laughing about it this evening and I watched the ep yesterday afternoon. I love it because it takes the premise of that video seriously. What if there really WAS a crazy punky British guy running around the sewers yelling, "I'm the firestartah!!"

  • July 12, 2008, 11:07 p.m. CST

    coolhanderik...just dont tell me we have to wait till 2011

    by bacci40

    hope they are allowed to stay on sched and come out in 09

  • July 12, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    con panels fully adult swim or venture bros?

    by bacci40

    seems like lots more comic related stuff and lots less entertainment junk...maybe hollywierd is souring on the con...goody...oh and bad news for heroes fans...maya is coming back, she is on the heroes panel...oh, and no lost panel this year

  • July 13, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Reviewing the theme of failure as it sits now

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    It's becoming apparent that Rusty keeps living in his father's shadow, but he's probably a far better man than his father in many ways; He generally acknowledges his failures (unlike Jonas who hides them: the kids left underground; the abandoning/sealing of the E-den), and I think he is actually a better father. It's subtle (and debatable, I'm sure), but at least Dr. Venture wears his heart on his sleeve and interacts with his kids on all levels (albeit usually to his irritation), while Jonas seemed to use Rusty as a vehicle for his own success and notoriety (while at the same time keeping up a wall of emotion). Lastly, mark my words: don't be surprised if it turns out some of the great inventions of Jonas Venture were not of his origin, but of another who was also manipulated for Jonas' gain.

  • July 13, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Bacci, YOU'RE irritated about con panels?

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    Not a single guy from Adult swim is yet signed on to show up for Dragoncon, and they and the fucking convention are located in ATLANTA. I'm just praying they're being their usual pothead selves and taking their sweet time to make the arrangements.

  • July 13, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Close to the Edit!

    by ZeroCorpse

    I knew the little girl the moment I saw her! It WOULD be intimidating for the crew from "Close to the Edit" to show up in the real world, odd weapons in hand. What a jam-packed episode.

  • July 13, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    I don't think I can love this show more

    by David Cloverfield

    Too bad we're halfway through the third season. Giving real world sensibilities to the Hannah Barbera sunday morning cartoon world... It's amazing. Is that true that the 3th and 4th series were produced back to back?

  • July 13, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Shut the Fuck up Donny...not irritated

    by bacci40

    just pointing out a fact...and they should show up to their hometown con...maybe nyc con burnt everyone out...the only thing im irritated about is that gerber isnt getting a memorial panel, but evanier emailed me and said that was because everyone would want at least 30 more memorial panels for those who have left us in the past year...but i disagree...if there was one man who had the biggest impact on current comicdom, it is moore, gaiman, miller, etc...the first artist to go out on a limb regarding creator rights, only to get burned by his fellow creators...i think it is a shame...and shoot, what would be wrong with having 30 memorial panels...replace the dc direct one...who the fuck cares what new dolls are coming out this year...

  • July 13, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Bacci, therein is the problem arising

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    with the bigger conventions: the money aspect is starting to weigh too much in in director decisions. Yes, there should be 30 memorial panels if the attendees want to see that. Plus, I'm sure there are plenty of friends and professionals of those who have passed that would love to speak at a few (Evanier would probably speak at half of them, alone!). But, toys gotta sell and vendors gotta wanna come back to pay for booth space. I'd like to say that Dragoncon isn't like that yet (and still keeps the fuck-it-all, we'll throw a bunch of panels up and see what sticks), but even I see they are losing some of their organic nature.

  • July 14, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Genius!! And how did Keith from Prodigy end up in there?

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Funny as fuck. Love the fact the adults all left the kids down there lol

  • July 14, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Cramming more references than 1 brain can stand

    by skimn

    Did I see a signpost that read Sealab (to the left), Colossus (AKA:The Forbin Project, to the right)? This show continues to amaze.

  • July 14, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    The "Close (to the Edit)" homage was fucking brilliant

    by SpyGuy

    Here's hoping for an Adam Ant-looking guy called The Highwayman or a guy who looks like Sting in the "Synchronicity II" video.

  • July 14, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Jonas Venture

    by sevenrivera

    I do not believe we're going to see anything like Brock being related to the Ventures or Rusty being related to the Monarch, but I really do love the theme of tearing down the myth of Jonas Venture. Suddenly, he's not the super hero father we all thought we knew. He's pretty much a scumbag. I also like that we don't know how he died. Remember the Monarch asked the Guild how it happened? I think that's going to be the finale this season, the truth about the death of the original Dr. Venture. I can't wait. Great development of Twilight by the way, such a great episode.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    More crackpot theories...

    by MCVamp

    Jonas Venture was a weapons supplier to the Guild of Calamitous Intent. OSI gave the kill order and instituted "Rusty's Blanket" out of a guilt. - Dermott, who was hinted at being Brock's son is actually HANK'S son from a time-travel adventure that's not remembered by the current Hank-Clone. - Pete White, Billy Quizboy, Brock, and the Triad will take on the moniker of "Team Venture" for at least one adventure. - Hank will die again. Dean will not. - Sgt. Hatred will be tricked by the Monarch into breaking "Meghan's Law" with the Moppets as bait, freeing up Rusty's arching spot. - Kano will be the one to air out Jonas Venture's dirty laundry to his family.

  • July 14, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    the funniest thing about the scene when guy dressed up as

    by RaveX

    keith flint first showed up was the fact that I didn't see it coming. <p> not by a long shot. <p> until he was standing in front of rusty, and I was one part laughing my ass off, one part having a seizure due to 90s flashbacks...

  • July 14, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST


    by sevenrivera

    I figure they gave Brock "Rusty's Blanket" because they wanted him out of the way. He was the only one at OSI that believed in the Guild, plus he is a badass. But I love the idea of an episode wherein one of the boys dies and the other doesn't. What do they do in that instance? Kill the live one so they reboot together?

  • July 14, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST


    by MCVamp

    Interesting thing you reminded me of...since Brock was purposely handed "Rusty's Blanket" by a guy who turned out to be Sgt. Hatred of the Guild, perhaps there's a deeper reason to it all. Why would the Guild want Rusty Venture protected by an unstoppable Swedish murder machine? Unless the Guild wants to keep Rusty alive for some unknown reason? Maybe something to do with the secret of Jonas Venture's death?

  • July 14, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST


    by sevenrivera

    That's entirely possible. I was thinking it was to keep Brock out of any real action, but it could be a deeper plan. Was that corrupt OCI guy really a young Sgt. Hatred? Didn't catch that. "Wonderful, that's one for us and 5 billion for the Apocalypse." "I can't help but think that Rusty would have wanted it that way."

  • July 14, 2008, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Fantastic ep.

    by Resurrected

    While most of the refrences were over my head this season hasn't had a bad episode yet. And I almost got to see some original Team Venture action, something i've been waiting for since they were introduced.

  • July 14, 2008, 8:50 p.m. CST


    by Gearfree

    Yeah, the name of the officer who assigned Brock to his mission was a Sgt. Haine(a french noun for hatrid). The primary(and most likely logic wise) suggestion was to get the two men(Samson and Gathers) out of the way for when the guild decided to make its return. From the information presented from these last episodes it is assumed that between the continuation of operation "Rusty's blanket"(by Brock, taking over for Myra) and the Berlin Incident that the guild returned to the public eye.

  • July 15, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    So if Brock recognized that

    by Napoleon Park

    the little guy was "like the Ant-Man from that Marvel comic, the Avengers" then how did they not recognize the Impossibles as the Fantastic Four or Orpheus as Dr. Strange? Not looking for real world logic here, but isn't that a little inconsistant?

  • July 15, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Napoleon Park

    by thelivingsunset

    I am pretty sure the impossibles won with a costume contest as the Fantastic Four in one of the episodes.

  • July 15, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I hear ya JT

    by sevenrivera

    I've never been the same either, since my mom was taken by a group of rogue blackulas.