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MAD MEN Showrunner: Draper's Destination Is 1969??
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ORIGINAL POST:
The Television Critics Association press tour is underway, and “Mad Men” creator Matthew Weiner has outlined his long-term gameplan for the AMC flagship:
* The series is designed to run five seasons.
* The show will skip long periods of time between seasons. (Season one concluded in late 1960; season two, premiering July 27, picks up in early 1962.)
* The series is expected to take the employees of Sterling Cooper (Draper Sterling Cooper?) at least to 1969.
Which means we’ll probably see Don Draper switch to turtlenecks, drop acid and put the bone to a few damn dirty hippies!
UPDATE:
The Hollywood Reporter, which broke the story, added this Wednesday night:
Correction: The matter of setting an end date for AMC's critical darling "Mad Men," prompted by a quote by creator Matt Weiner at TCA about his "five-year plan" for "the life of the series," seemed clear when the story was published yesterday afternoon. From a lengthy exchange discussing Weiner's quote with AMC: "So to be clear, [Matthew Weiner] plans 5 seasons, covering 10 years, with jumps between each season." AMC: "Yes!"
But AMC now says Weiner never meant to reveal a specific timeline for the show. He meant that he plans to continue having timeline jumps between the seasons.
Find the Reporter's story here.
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But AMC now says Weiner never meant to reveal a specific timeline for the show. He meant that he plans to continue having timeline jumps between the seasons.
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He'll probably be running the company by the end.
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I can't stand the hippie mentality. Damn straight it's easy to be "peaceful" when you're high or drunk 24/7. Draper stays intoxicated, yeah, but he never wavers - keeps a good eye on things. Took a while to get used to the show, but I'm looking forward to seeing how the characters handle the Kennedy years. Would love to see Don competing for Marilyn Monroe - or maybe tied to her death somehow. LOL
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It will be cool to see them as hippies. Don's wife is hot. Wasn't she the daughter on "West Wing?"
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I don't care what year it is.
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season 3 will be set in 64 so hopfeully they will capture that unique mood of that year (something which i've read the bond flick goldfinger does )
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What will it be the next time I refresh? :P
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Looking forward to seeing how this show unfolds.
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love every minute of the show.
Any News on Breaking Bad Herc? -
Cuz I'd watch that.
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I don't believe DirecTV caries AMC in HD. Looks kinda crappy without. I'll wait for Blu-Ray I guess. Looks like an awesome show
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I will continue to say that in any post that mentions this show.
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Is the show, in fact, worth watching?
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It's currently the best thing going on TV (IMO). Since The Wire has ended, anyway.
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a whole year between seasons one and two? that's kinda cool, and i'm sure weiner and co. will make it gold.
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Out of sheer boredom me and my girlfriend watched the first episode because it was on demand and ended up watching the whole season in 2 days. The episodes get better as the season progresses and now I can't wait for season 2.
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Wash, my fave shoes are Lost, BSG, Damages, Dexter as well as many others: House, Firefly, Chuck, Pushing Daisies, Entourage, Six Feet Under, Damages... i could really go on... and I liked seasons 1 and 4 of Desperate Housewives. Mad Men is more of a character study and there is a background plot regarding the mysterious history and backstory of the main character, Don Draper and how he's not exactly what he appears to be. I would suggest watching it from the first ep and hanging on until ep 6 or so to start to get a feel of Don's story. It's sorta of how like in House, the main focus is the episode's crisis (House's patient and Sterling-Cooper's client) but you learn more about the characters slowly as well.
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Must everything be "amazing" these days? The word has zero meaning from its rampant overuse. Everything from this morning's taurine cocktail to whatever slam-bang blockbuster flick of the moment one's just seen is friggin' A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. We need an indefinite moratorium on this "nothing" adjective. Like pronto.
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mostly with the kids shown on the show...drapers kids have to become teens...both will get mixed up in the anti war protests and will turn their back on their bs dad...draper will probably end up divorced as will most of the cast...and it will be interesting as they show the changes in the ad game, and the firm will finally be able to celebrate nixon winning
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This and Breaking Bad are so so good.
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No, his wife was not a daughter on West Wing. Peggy, the new secretary that has a fling, played youngest Bartlett daughter Zoey.
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I've been watching the blu-ray's of season 1 all week. I had watched it on AMC, but in HD it's even better. This isn't a show for you CSI/Law and Order types. It's more for the Six Feet Under, Lost type fan who loves rich character. This is a must see and season 1 is probably one of the best seasons of 1 hour drama done anywehre.
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It's "terrific" then.
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Jul 10, 2008 1:37:09 AM CDT
I just finished Season 1 and was very impressed. Fantastic Show
by bungion boy
I wrote this show off last summer. I'm not sure why. The structure is somewhat familiar. You can tell it was created by people associated with The Sopranos, but the acting, writing, and especially the art direction is superb. The setting feels so authentic and detailed without ever getting too showy. I don't think I had ever seen John Hamm in anything before but he is the perfect center for this universe. January Jones and Christina Hendricks are so lovely and offer a really nice balance to the male-centric world. And I love seeing Robert Morse (of How To Succeed in Business Without Really Trying fame) playing essentially the boss character from his own famous show. This is an amazing show that I hope people discover and watch, just to ensure this does last for the 5 seasons it deserves. Can't wait to see what happens in season 2.
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Showtime both passed on it. I'm annoyed AMC isn't available in HD. I'm also excited about the second seasons of Damages and Breaking Bad. Did Breaking Bad ever get a TalkBack page on this site?
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fascinating characters on TV. I'll guess season two takes her character to some very dark places. January Jones does a great job.
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How much of this show's appeal is that it encourages people to laugh at racism and misogyny. 100% pro penis all the way (so long as it's white). I don't agree with everything being sanitized and overly PC, but I also don't agree with such disgusting treatment of people being glamorized and made fun. Feels like a big step backward for the sake of entertainment.
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incredibly complex characters. smart TV
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i always thought setting the first season in 1960 was a deliberate setup to show the changes across the 60s.
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i watch a couple of the beginning eps and felt it kinda went off the boil, returns to watch the final eps a moth or two later and it picked up its rhythm again. Well worth watching. and the theme tune is excellent!
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so what's wrong with laughing at racism and misogyny?
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why was i not told earlier about this cool news?
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This is a very, very good show. Addicting. Great cast, excellent writing. I'm looking forward to every episode I see.
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Otherwise, where's the talkback for today's second season premiere?
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Yeah the males on the show are cast in such a flattering light! Anyway, nice turn of phrase.
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...I used to worked in advertising and just don't care to watch the 1960's versions of the same f**kin' backstabbing assholes I had to put up with all those years, so I just can't bring myself to watch Madmen on a regular basis.
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Hell yeah, Burn Notice is fucking sweet. A lot better then I thought it would be. When I first saw the previews for it last year, I thought that the main guy looked like a prick and unfunny. Way wrong, his deadpan style of delivering his lines is great. Also its Bruce Campbells best role in years, it should be required veiwing to be part of this site. Campbells character could've easily been Ash back in the day, but not in the OH Bruce is just being Bruce, but in back in his hayday he would've been an Ash type of Spy.
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Has been void of anything good on TV, and I am a huge reality show watcher. But man reality TV shows only have a 2 year life span on me. I was so into Hells Kitchen when I caught it season 2 now I pretty much only watch just to see how wins. BUT! This Whipeout show, even though its the knock off of Takeshi's Castle, I love it. I'm really excited to see how this dog competition show turns out, see if my dog could compete (he's the most talanted person I know). Also this, I Survived a Japanese Game Show is TERRIBLE! It should've been like Whipeout, instead they made it some lame ass survivor/road rules knock off. And no Rescue Me? I mean we get the mini episodes, but man. Rescue Me is the best show on TV.
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Is sometimes diverting, but it's about as sophisticated and deep a show as old MacGuyver reruns.And stargirl-- you are a PC nazi. Turn off your fucking television and continue plotting the extermination of all people who don't think the way you do.
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One of the (many) reasons I dig this show is the fact it doesn't pull any punches about the blatant sexism and racism of the time. Its honesty is refreshing.
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saying something to the effect of..."Oh man, I wish I was around back then. You could totally hit on your secretary and not get any heat from Human Resources!"
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How do these channels exsit? Really, who watched AMC before Mad Men and Breaking Bad? And why can't FX air anything besides VERY OLD reruns of the Practice, and King of the Hill? It would be nice to see them air shows that got cancelled before anyone knew about them, besides the fifth showing of I, Robot this week. Or more reruns of FX shows.
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My favorite shows are Lost, BSG, The Wire, 6FU, Deadwood, and Mad Men if that helps. Although I didn't find the first few episodes "hollow" in the slightest so take it for what it's worth.
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I find this derogatory term very snide and unnecessary, and yet it's uall over this site. It's very offensive.
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I, Robot every day...let's not forgot they air original programs like Rescue Me, Damages, The Riches, The Shield and Nip/Tuck. I'd mention Dirt but it was recently cancelled.I watch AMC so infrequently that I sometimes have difficulty finding it when surfing! Question: Who on earth watches movies that have been edited for content?
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I really enjoyed the first season of Mad Men, but for me it went from good to amazing (yes, amazing...A-M-A-Z-I-N-G) when Don Draper gave his carousel pitch. I had to rewind and watch that scene three times. It was so heartbreaking to see Draper desperately trying to cling to the good times while his marriage and home life were slowly dissolving around him. Great stuff.
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Pretty much. Midge, the artist chick, is a hippie waiting to happen. I just hope this season has my man roger Sterling making a comeback:
(Takes a belt of whiskey) "Ahh...that's where you've been." -
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MAD MEN = Great fucking show and one of the best programs to have hit the airwaves in awhile.And a 10 year timeframe makes it sound like the characters will be experiencing some cultural attitude changes for sure. I'm definitely looking forward to July 27th.JOOOAAANNN!!!
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Cheers. Creme de Menthe?
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Thanks but I'll stick with whiskey. Or maybe a 7-8 Martini lunch ala Roger Sterling.Cheers!
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"I want to stand up and salute that. Anyone mind if I take my pants off?"
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I almost made I through the first episode. Almost. Not my kind of thing. Haven't seen Brotherhood. Not really into gangster/mob stuff though. Big Love I find myself continually watching for some inexplicable reason. The second season was much better than the first. I'll probably keep watch the first runs but I don't have any desire to watch it more than once.
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My two roomates. I've caught them numerous times watching movies on AMC and TBS. I was like...really? WHY? Lets just say they own mustangs and like UFC and either were are still are in the military and think you can't top Bud Light. Bud light goes well with an hour and a half version of Terminator 2.
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At first I agreed. I thought it was interesting to see that they didn't gloss over the true attitudes of the time. But after four episodes (I think that's how many I watched, the whole first disc anyway) it started to feel less authentic and more gratuitous. To the point where someone seemed to be having a really good time getting those little stabs in every few minutes. It's not the overall themes of the show that bother me, rather the almost subtle jabs at people that permeate into almost EVERY conversation. What should be a "Holy crap, that's horrible (therefore funny)" response eventually gets whittled down to straight laughter. "It's FUNNY to degrade women! Let's all do it!" I guess I'm afraid that the attitudes are being pushed towards acceptable when it should be the complete opposite.
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That's an outrageously underrated show. Things like Californication, Dexter and Brotherhood kinda make it worthwhile hanging onto Showtime. Is there going to be a third season of Brotherhood?
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You've raised an interesting point. At times it does seem like the writers are have TOO MUCH fun writing the sexist dialogue. My father watches the show too and he's verbally confimed many a time that the casual racism and sexism displayed on the show is absolutely authentic...based on his own experiences in a similar setting.
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You do make a fair point. But then again I'm a felandering, letchurous, sexist, racist, homophobic, antisemite...so I LOVE it!
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Here's something my 70 year old father has said about the whole PC thing..."It's pretty funny that the people most outraged by political correctness are white males! There was a time in this country when some really unspeakably awful things were done and said to women, gay people and non-whites. If political correctness makes a person stop and think for second before deciding to insult someone because of their race, gneder or sexual orientation, then I'm all for it!"Personally, I think The Right has done a fantastic job of leading everyone to believe political correctness is this awful, oppressive entity robbing us of the right to speak our minds.
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I love this show but I hope they don't resort to clichés when they get to the later 60s….you know what I'm talking about…Draper drops acid for the first time and as soon as it starts to take effect, cue "Inagadadavida"…..but I doubt this show would do that. I also love the fact that there is an end date...every serialized drama should have one.
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Really.
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I've watched MadMen and it's a compelling show. Yet it gives me pause whenever some person says "Oh it's unapologetic in it's racist or myogynistic-driven dialogue." Like you're worthy of an Emmy Award because some schmuck in a 1960s business suit says ni@@er or kunt 12 times.
Overall I barely ever hear anyone black, red, brown or yellow, or a woman say that bigotry or misogyny is refreshing.
Yeah, it is the 1960s; yeah, white guys did have 99 percent of the power at that time; and yeah, I'm probably gonna get shit because most talk-backers think only white guys have an appreciation of classic cinema and television. Well MadMen would get more of my support if they showed the entire spectrum of the 1960s - like for one the Civil Rights movement was in full steam, and more people were becoming aware what that would mean for the future of the United States. The year 1960 was more than just cigarettes, fucking secretaries, and three-martini lunches.
But then again you guys don't give a shit - you'll call me an "angry black man" who only yells at the movie screen during films, (another stereotype I might add). -
Either that or a cult. She just get's more and more unhinged. It's awesome. Was 1969 was also the year of the Stonewall gay bar riot? Peggy might go to Woodstock and they'll watch the moon landing. Salvatore is probably going to get caught up in that event.
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I hope they DON'T attempt to clumsily insert the characters into too many of the iconic 60s events. Peggy at Woodstock and Salvatore at Stonewall is a little too heavy handed. I trust the writers are smart enough to avoid a kind of Zelig/Forrest Gump thing as the show continues. I adore the show and honestly don't want the story to open up too much as it continues. Showing the "entire spectrum of the 60s" wouldn't feel natural. I hope they don't do it.
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The show is called "Mad Men" not "1960." It's about a select group of assholes in Manhattan at a specific time and how they viewed and influenced the world. I think they do pretty good job of showing how marginalized black people were at the time considering that. Hell the first scene of the entire show is Draper asking a Black guy about his preferred brand of cigarettes and the guy's prick of a manager asking Don if the guy is bothering him. Not to mention the hushed silence whenever they get on an elevator with a Black operator. Black peopel are represented as much as they actually existed in the specific microcosm of the show--the Manhattan business world and the sheltered suburbs.
The show probably will touch on the issues you speak of more as it goes on, if it goes on. It is only 1960 after all. The issues you speak of, while in full swing, have not permeated into the protected world these people have built for themselves...yet. -
And I do admit that (thankfully) Draper is one of the more reasonable characters of the cast. And although it would look too forced to have certain cast members - oh I don't know - meeting Abbie Hoffman, or spilling a coke on Malcolm X; I would like to see more of a gradual understanding that the world of these executives was changing.
One of the shows that use to really piss me off in the 1990s was "Friends." Apparently 6 college friends lived in this parallel universe of Manhattan that had no Latinos, very little if any African Americans, only educated and successful Asians and didn't experience 9/11. I mean, what the fuck - THEY LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY! -
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And were also able to live in giant non-existent Greenich Village lofts on the salary of a coffee waitress and out-of-work chef. Friends, although set in NYC, was clearly a fantasy. I don't mind Friends not touching on 9-11. A lighter comedy hasn't existed then that show. Let's face it. Any response they would have had to that actual incident would have probably only been insulting. And there was the "Too Soon!" factor. People wanted a break from reality at that point. Nobody watches breezy sitcoms to see them touch upon national tragedy. But I do agree the show was noticeably lacking in racial diversity and honesty.
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go away.
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Did you misunderstand my post or is that sarcasm?
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In fact, I hereby claim that talkback for discussion of tonight's second season premiere.
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White males who complain about reverse racism/sexism aren't victims of the PC Patrol, they're whiney pussies who don't realize that they have more POWER than other races or sexes. It's about power, not skin color or sex.
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January Jones that is.
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Does Peggy creep anyone else out?
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And she could give two shits and a fuck about anyone who can't do anything for her and that includes especially you "adoring fans." What a crock! So the Dairy Queen has good looks. Big deal. Make me a shake and I'll be impressed. Looks fade with time. Personality lasts forever. How do I know this? I used to live next door to her. Not a nice person. Shallow, self-absorbed, arrogant, looks down on "de common folk" let her dog Samy die, I could go on. Hell, Josh Groban didn't even have the manliness to get out of his Porsche and open the door for her for her to get in when they were dating. She's a lot different in person than she is on the screen.
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I mean sure, they have a hard time getting decent jobs and all, but having the Supreme Court appoint a short bus President was the A.A.M.R. going too far with the whole positive discrimination in the workplace idea.
Now the A.A.R.P. are trying to do the same thing by covering a sad, frail, very elderly man with makeup and marching him from TV studios to very draughty town halls all across the U.S.
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I mean sure, they have a hard time getting decent jobs and all, but having the Supreme Court appoint a short bus President was the A.A.M.R. going too far with the whole positive discrimination in the workplace idea.
Now the A.A.R.P. are trying to do the same thing by covering a sad, frail, very elderly man with makeup and marching him from TV studios to very draughty town halls all across the U.S.
That poor old geezer would clearly be happier sitting in a deckchair in his yard shouting at the kids to get off his lawn before bothering all the neighbours with his "stories".
Let this man have his diginity back! It's Political Correctness gone Mad. -
was ridiculously perfect. Maintaining that level of quality isn't going to be easy.
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Yeah the competition between the young turk and Draper as well as no doubt increasing marital tensions will keep things moving but season ones big reveal was Drapers "secret" and it will need something else to drive the plot along this time.
It IS superb TV though with acting, dialogue and set design of the highest order. -
I just watched the entire Season 1 and I don't think I heard the word "nigger" once in any episode. If I missed it, fair enough.
I think your criticism is unfounded. The show tries to accurately depict the times (1960) and does so brilliantly. The contrast is often shocking in demonstrating how much this country has changed. As for it's handling of the civil rights movement--the entire focus of the show was 1960, so maybe that plot point will arise later. But I hope the show does not become and "issues" show like "American Dreams". I prefer the antics and storylines they are already invested in and I don't think they need to stoop to that kind of nostalgic didactic gimmickry to sustain this show. -
And you have a creator/writer with a short attention span. they were fine in the early 60s. the whole "stock up" atmosphere was great
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Jul 13, 2008 9:28:30 PM CDT
that red hair curvy secretary is the sexiest woman in showbuines
by chien_sale
BY FAR. Everything about her is sexy from her body to her personaliy. if only all women were like that.
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