“Today's vote reflects the ability of AFTRA members to recognize a solid contract when they see it. Despite an unprecedented disinformation campaign aimed at interfering with our ratification process, a majority of members ultimately focused on what mattered -- the obvious merits of a labor agreement that contains substantial gains for every category of performer in both traditional and new media.”An AMPTP statement:
“We appreciate today's vote of confidence by actors in the agreement we reached with AFTRA, and hope that it demonstrates to SAG's Hollywood leadership that there is support for the new economic relationships we have built with writers, directors and actors -- and not much support for a strike, whether de facto or real.”SAG president Alan Rosenberg:
“Clearly many Screen Actors Guild members responded to our education and outreach campaign and voted against the inadequate AFTRA agreement. We knew AFTRA would appeal to its many AFTRA-only members, who are news people, sportscasters and DJs, to pass the tentative agreement covering acting jobs. In its materials, AFTRA focused that appeal on the importance of actor members' increased contributions to help fund its broadcast members' pension and health benefits.”Daily Variety:
“[SAG] now faces the unsavory prospect of AFTRA signing up new shows shot on digital - an area of shared jurisdiction - with the new contract.”The Writers Guild of America and the Directors Guild of America made their deals with the AMPTP earlier this year. SAG expects to respond to the AMPTP’s June 30 “final offer” Thursday. Whether SAG accepts the new AMPTP contract or not, the AFTRA vote would seem to further diminish SAG’s ability to win the 75% membership vote that would permit it to strike anytime in the near future. And that now makes it easier to the studios to greenlight new movies. Read all of the Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here. Read all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
July 8, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST
July 8, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST
So that is the climax of my sad life. It is all epilogue now.
July 8, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST
It was a 62.435421223212332421312 Margin, But who is counting?
July 8, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST
What the fuck are you waiting for?
July 8, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST
So alone, where o where is everybody to honor my achievement?
July 8, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST
And mine become one. Good job, Maceox. Well done.
July 8, 2008, 10:22 p.m. CST
Maybe now they can actually get some good and honest work done.
July 8, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
As long as I get my Fantastic Four 3: Electric Boogaloo. And get Jessica Alba to go topless in this one.
July 8, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST
July 8, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST
A once promising idea has become corrupt and self-serving. SAG no longer serves the people it reps. I'm glad AFTRA made a deal, instead of trying to bully like SAG is trying to do. They know better. Times are tough and they're only getting harder, so who has time for a strike.<br><br> GODDAMN! I CAN"T WAIT FOR TDK TO COME OUT!
July 8, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST
I come to site a few hours ago and there was nothing but old articles about the Star Wars prequels and such on the main page. Was the site hacked or was it just a really late april fools joke? I demand answers!
July 8, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST
the lowest paid member of sag gets right around $800 per DAY (i think it's $769 + some % for taxes, but don't quote me on that). boo fucking hoo, your lowest paid members make more in a day than most of america makes in a week and you expect anyone to sympathize with your cause?
July 9, 2008, 12:01 a.m. CST
While we can rail all day against the paychecks that entertainers get, it is their product that keeps us coming back for more. If you don't agree with the compensation SAG members enjoy then...tough shit. They make way more than I do, but I never hesitate to plunk down ten bucks to see a movie I've been looking forward to.<P>Do their activities warrant the obscene salaries? Probably not, but I'd rather next summer be filled with quality films than have those same projects halt production because of some strike.<P>What am I saying? Fuck the greedy bastards.<P>As you can tell, I'm conflicted on this one.
July 9, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST
source that insane figure you douche. this whole thing is very suspect, nobody I know voted against this strike.
July 9, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST
your slut of a mother.
July 9, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/6l693l <b> Principal Actors = $759/day <b> I don't know how accurate the figures are on that site, but they seem legit.
July 9, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST
2003 rates (you KNOW they are higher now!) [b] http://tinyurl.com/64a545 [b] Under terms of a joint SAG and AFTRA contract covering all unionized workers, motion picture and television actors with speaking parts earned a minimum daily rate of $678 or $2,352 for a 5-day week as of July 1, 2003. Actors also receive contributions to their health and pension plans and additional compensation for reruns and foreign telecasts of the productions in which they appear.
July 9, 2008, 12:31 a.m. CST
I forgot how to do line breaks here. <br> How about this?
July 9, 2008, 12:37 a.m. CST
759/day for PRINCIPAL actors. The reality is most members of SAG are not prinicpal actors and are not working with enough frequency to have what they do make count. These actors are the gears that make the machine work, and I'm surprised that people are siding with AMPTP, who collect the real profits. I would imagine that people would be surprised to know just how many people are SAG members and just how little this "contract" does for them and how much it does for producers.
July 9, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST
by The Marquis de Side 3
looks like the crap will get greenlit now boys! starring wee-little Armie Hammer sperm-spit as The Batman...get ready to puke... =0p
July 9, 2008, 12:45 a.m. CST
by the podosphere
right above the talkback section of the page. I realize jonzin' 420'erz will chow just about anything, but really???
July 9, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST
Steady work is a bitch, while pay is close to amounts you suggest, the vast majority of SAG actors only work two or three times a year (or not at all) for limited amounts of time. I've personally worked seven times at a total of something like 18 weeks in the past 12 months, do the math with your numbers. Any and all residuals I receive go to groceries and gas, and thats a small amount. This is the reality that SAG members deal with. Compare that to studio profits.
July 9, 2008, 1:19 a.m. CST
The Film Actors Guild? Way to go FAG! America!!! FUCK YA!
July 9, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST
so lets hear from the wga...will they allow themselves to get fucked up the ass?
July 9, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST
HAROLD GUYS FRAKIN HAROLD!!!!!!!!!! the ad on the right. YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE AD OR I WILL PERSONALLY EXECUTE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.
July 9, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST
not that it matters...the suits have won...the unions in hollywood now have no power
July 9, 2008, 3:04 a.m. CST
most duel members of these unions voted for the strike . simple fact is it just doesn't effect actors but also stunt folk who sometimes need that dvd resid to help make it to the next job . not everyone is a full time actor and about 73% of the SAG memebers out there earn less than 5,000 a year . they do it for the joy it brings and for the possible chance to do something that they love for a living . all the union haters can get fucked like they normally do at the non union job they probably work at now .
sorry ...correction , didn't vote to strike but voted NO on the AFTRA deal .
July 9, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST
same way that i feel for the majority of aftra and sag memebers who got fucked by this deal...and will really feel the pinch when they find out just how much the studios have been making from online content...when will someone stand up at a meeting and ask...if online content is basically worthless, why is viacom bothering to sue google? why are the studios pushing the different goverments to shutdown sites like tvlinks?
July 9, 2008, 5:23 a.m. CST
I had to laugh. :D
July 9, 2008, 5:24 a.m. CST
A lot. That is all.
July 9, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST
Glad that many do it despite the low pay. It is for the love. I understand that. But in all honestly how many people out there simply think they are that important enough or that good at it to be doing it full time. How about getting a full time job with acting on the side. How about getting a part time job along with their acting career. I really cannot feel that bad for indivduals who get in this business thinking it will be their sole support. After all is it true that only 10% of all so called actors actually working? Not a good percentage. Good luck.
July 9, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST
We all need it.
July 9, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST
sag paychecks aren't regular? actors don't work every day? whose fault is that? i'm sure most actors will blame it on their manager or agent, if they even have one. an actor who isn't working isn't really an actor, are they? trying to be a successful actor (i.e. able to make ends meet by your acting paycheck) is like sitting around every day and playing the lottery, hoping you're going to win. it's no one's fault but their own that they chose this path in life, now they're complaining that the lottery doesn't pay enough when they get lucky enough to win. p.s. principal actors in terms of the sag deal mostly means someone who is on screen and is a principal fixture of a shot. that waiter who walks on screen and takes the main characters' orders and is never seen again gets paid the 'principal actor' rate for the day.
July 9, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST
Film Actors Guild?
July 9, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
blow me, you nasty piece of shit. most (over 80%) sag and aftra members make less than 20k per year acting and that's the fact.
July 9, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST
If you've seen Team America:World Police, you'd get the joke.
July 10, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST
No, I'm someone with a steady job in the film industry, someone whose steady job would be affected by a SAG strike. When actors bickering over a penny here and a penny there affects MY job and the jobs of the 300+ staff and crew with whom I work, forgive me for not shedding any tears for their cause. I don't give a fuck if 80% of their members make less than 20k a year. If that's the case, maybe they should look into another profession.
July 10, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
I'm not even gonna argue with if the current SAG leadership are idiots (they are) who completely screwed up this negotiation (they did). But when you come on here throwing around those numbers, which you obviously understand, and that you know full well most of the people on here will not be able to understand out of context, then you're just a hate-mongering little troll. My guess is a frustrated perfomer who had to settle for a lower-paying production job. Like I said the first time: blow me, you nasty piece of shit.
July 10, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
You've admitted that your p.o.'ed because your income would be directly affected, but isn't that your 'fault' for choosing the line of work you chose? I'm an industry accountant and would also be directly and adversely affected, but I appreciate the issues on the table and can think for myself, instead of just parroting the same stupid and demeaning 'talking points' that the producers want to feed us. You've obviously been eating them right up. Here's why the whole "plumber" analogy is completely asinine: As a producer, you hire people to write, direct and perform because you cannot do those things. Their CREATIVE contributions shape and inform your product, which would not exist without the combined CREATIVE talents, experience and education of these people. If you continue to make money from that creative product, then so should they: they created it for you.
July 10, 2008, 11:16 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
SAG is an idiot, who have fucked up this negotiation beyond all reason, but that doesn't mean that their demands are wrong. The free clip clause that AFTRA agreed to is a terrible mistake. But we all know that there's not going to be a strike. SAG hasn't called for a strike vote because they are afraid they won't get it, and the producers won't lock them out because they don't want to galvanize the guild (this last bit from today's Hollywood Reporter). A few things are for sure: they'd best just cut their losses or this will really get stupid; SAG's West Coast (non)leadership has to go; SAG and AFTRA have to get their shit back together; and then maybe they will have a better shot in three years. Oh, yes, and blow me, you nasty piece of shit.