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UPDATED! Stop the Goddamn Strike! Tarantino's INGLORIOUS BASTARDS Is Out to Studios!
Beaks here...
Update: Nikki Finke is reporting that Tarantino is courting Brad Pitt to star in INGLORIOUS BASTARDS! She's also revealed which studios are being targeted: Universal, Sony, Warner Brothers, Paramount and Cannon.
BTW, I've received one script today and it wasn't INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. Let's do something about that, studio assistants. Fuck your job, I need to read this shit.
Finally, I don't care if William Smith is 74. He could still whip your ass.
You know what this means? There's .pdf copy of INGLORIOUS BASTARDS making the agency/studio assistant rounds as we speak, which should put a draft of the script on my hard drive by... the end of the day? Drip forth, oh leaky USS Hollywood!
But will it be financed outside of The Weinstein Company? And what does that mean for Harvey? It'd be interesting to see a Tarantino film go out under a studio logo, but let Nikki Finke worry about that; I just want the fucking movie made, man.
It's taken the better part of this decade for Tarantino to beat his "men on a mission" screenplay into shape, but the wait will undoubtedly be worth it if BASTARDS builds on the movie-movie brilliance of his previous two pictures. Frankly, I'm glad Tarantino didn't rush into this project back in 2000; with KILL BILL and DEATH PROOF, he was able to gradually expand his visual vocabulary to the point where, now, no one can possibly question his ability to pull off a full-on combat film. He's ready to make war, baby!
Timing is everything, and it surely can't be a coincidence that Tarantino is gearing up for INGLORIOUS BASTARDS at the exact moment that the Enzo G. Castellari inspiration is heading to DVD (better order that three-disc pronto!). If this strike nonsense gets settled soon, INGLORIOUS BASTARDS should be ready to rock-and-roll before the year is out, which means we'll finally get to see if QT can make good on his promise to bring together Sly, Bruce, Arnold and every other classic action hero from our childhood. I'd love to see the rest of the cast filled out with guys like Bo Svenson, James Ryan and the great William Smith. For starters. Vern would probably ask that you make room for Seagal, too.
BTW, I've received one script today and it wasn't INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. Let's do something about that, studio assistants. Fuck your job, I need to read this shit.
Finally, I don't care if William Smith is 74. He could still whip your ass.
But will it be financed outside of The Weinstein Company? And what does that mean for Harvey? It'd be interesting to see a Tarantino film go out under a studio logo, but let Nikki Finke worry about that; I just want the fucking movie made, man.
It's taken the better part of this decade for Tarantino to beat his "men on a mission" screenplay into shape, but the wait will undoubtedly be worth it if BASTARDS builds on the movie-movie brilliance of his previous two pictures. Frankly, I'm glad Tarantino didn't rush into this project back in 2000; with KILL BILL and DEATH PROOF, he was able to gradually expand his visual vocabulary to the point where, now, no one can possibly question his ability to pull off a full-on combat film. He's ready to make war, baby!
Timing is everything, and it surely can't be a coincidence that Tarantino is gearing up for INGLORIOUS BASTARDS at the exact moment that the Enzo G. Castellari inspiration is heading to DVD (better order that three-disc pronto!). If this strike nonsense gets settled soon, INGLORIOUS BASTARDS should be ready to rock-and-roll before the year is out, which means we'll finally get to see if QT can make good on his promise to bring together Sly, Bruce, Arnold and every other classic action hero from our childhood. I'd love to see the rest of the cast filled out with guys like Bo Svenson, James Ryan and the great William Smith. For starters. Vern would probably ask that you make room for Seagal, too.
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...like hancock?
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and all first posters. i normally don't care but i have an extra five minutes of my day to reflect on how pathetic he and all others who cry first actually are.
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where's Roger Avary when you need him?
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Would be great. But I'm not getting my hopes up.
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hard
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What else is there more to say?
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http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/williamsmith.html
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...good stuff. Carry on!
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"Ooooo, Navy SEALS!"
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And I think the Sly, Bruce and Arnie idea sounds better in our heads than in actual reality. It would be cool, but it would get in the way of the movie. We'd keep thinking "Damn, thats Sly, Bruce and Arnie......coooooool" everytime they'd show up on screen, instead of investing in their characters.
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but how about Wings Hauser?
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I bow to your firstness! Don't ever change, and don't sweat the haters. They're just jealous they didn't get firsties. In other news, I'm a lot more interested in seeing this and reading this. And I've got nothing against Sly, Bruce and Arnie, but it ain't gonna happen. I'd bet dollar to donuts it won't even come close to happening.
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true romance, reservoir dogs, pulp fiction, natural born killers, from dusk till dawn....but that's where it ended...he's past his prime and fading away now.
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Pulp Fiction was his last great movie. Believe it. The rest is Q's own brand of head-up-his-ass cinematic drivel.
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QT debunked that a few weeks back.
That would be great however, Sly, Bruce, Arnie and company on a mission. A dream come true.
As for the "WWII done to death" opinion, Tarantino adressed this by saying that he hated the miserable visual tenure of the WWII flicks, that "DTV feel" 95% of them share, even the most recent/prestigious ones (I mean, Saving Private Ryan may be a fan favorite, but the photography and sets are far from being top notch). I have high hopes for that one. Fingers crossed. -
Jul 08, 2008 2:00:49 PM CDT
"expand his vocabulary" yeah, you could say that
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
Nothing like hearing a group of annoying, shallow cunts rant on and on for an hour and a half
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the best team ever... you know it's true.
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...this will surely revitalize their careers, as Quentin has done for so many others. Fuck the haters. Quentin has never mad a bad movie, and I'm so ready for his next epic, in the line of Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill!
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WHAT?!?! Saving Private Ryan's photography is far from being top notch?? You may not like the way it LOOKS, but you have no clue what you're talking about. The doc-style and rough look took WWII out of Hollywood gloss and added grit. It also was referencing the photos of Robert Capa, a war journalist who was THERE and took photos of D-Day. Because it was so low light, he had to slow the film speed which caused the smeared photos. You're welcome to your opinion. But it is an ill-informed one.
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is if you look closely before she finishes off Stuntman Mike, you can see some of that glorious hairy taco. I shit you not.
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Get ready for disappointment with a film that has been overgeeked for years. As much as I would love for this film to rock, I fear that it will never be as cool as the concept.
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Fuck this hack. Every time a Tarantino or Rodriguez article is posted, a brain dies. Alright?
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I completely agree. Saving Private Ryan looked and felt so realistic. It remains one of my favorite movies of all time.
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DUN.
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Yeah, the Rules of Attraction definatley beat out anything QT has ever done... NOT
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Far from top notch? I think the very idea of shooting documentary style is what made that first sequence as amazing as it is! So the ending is a bit Spielbergish, but so what? After the first 22 minutes I didn't care what the hell happened afterwards. That set the tone for the rest of the movie.
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I want to buy it!! Hello...
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That William Smith website was the epitomy of gay. Good thing nobody else was in the room.
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QT Better Find Him. Before Chuck Does.
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should all get a role!
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Greatest Villian Ever!
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could be awesome! Oh, and Michael Cane as Bill
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film. That would be a heck of a lot more interesting than WWII movie number 5 million even if it is from Tarantino.
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With a mega flop like GRINDHOUSE behind QT, he would be smart to go after Arnie, Sly and Bruce. Fans would anticipate the film on the level of EPISODE ONE or INDY 4. Did you read that QT and Harvey Weinstien??? What filmmaker/studio would want to pass up an R rated EVENT film like that? QT needs to make a war film that finally lives up to Spielberg's PRIVATE RYAN. Lets face it, BLACK HAWK DOWN is shit compared to RYAN!!! I'm sure Arnie can do small roles even as governor...there is no law that says he can't still act. Sly and Arnie are best friends right now and they would love to make a real bad ass action film together. Add John "Willis" McClain and the film will make certain ammounts of money for any studio. Not to mention Eddie Murphy and Adam Sandler bringing in more box-office loot. Come on QT, don't pussy out and not try to get STALLONE & SCHWARZENEGGER. The legend of this cast is too great to not try to bring together! Don't be a pussy dude, please!
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Hollywood strikes???? Dalton Trumbo must be rolling in his grave about now.
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more blah for your buck! i hope it isn't a blab-fest like death proof
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Starring Christian Slater and Balki.
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play one of the Germans.
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Vincent, maybe put Ralph Maccio into it as well... and then let them GO BATSHIT CRAZY, but make it intense, Please?
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that Nazi tank guy from Kelly's Heroes.
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Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Chuck Norris, Kurt Russell, Dolph Lungren, Steven Seagal, Mel Gibson. then you get Kurtwood Smith in there. Done.
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Alright?
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Good call on Rutger Hauer
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This movie needs ninjas!
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for that Starship Trooper feeling.
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Or has that been canned?
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All those guys. They don't have to be the stars if the studios won't go for it, but at least give them cameos. They need this... we... need this.
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Ripley - yes Sigourney Weaver, she could hold her own with everybody else mentioned for the cast
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How could notmal guys like us talkbackers get to see the script? I know I am a totaly noob or whatever, but there is a whole lot I wouldn't mind doing to get to read that.
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Bringing back Srgnt Tree from 1941! -
and don't you forget it!
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Jul 08, 2008 2:57:27 PM CDT
These are soldiers, not fucking pensioners.
by the gospel according to bastardface
Seriously, name someone under 55 please.
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Jul 08, 2008 3:00:56 PM CDT
Richard Dreyfuss, Ian McKellan, F. Murray Abraham, Nathan Lane!!
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Tom Cruise???? He can mix drinks and hang from ceilings with the best of them, plus he can make everyone take vitamins when they start feeling blue.
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had a small role in Ryan..remember? The wrong Ryan..?
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Your "acting" services are needed. Quick, to the Jar Jar mobile!
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Come on, that would be... the stupidest movie ever, don't do it.
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Everybody has been waiting for a Willow reunion! Who wouldn't want to hear Tarantino's long winded pop culture dialogue spouted by Wicket himself?
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Can you AICN losers get Tarantino's cock out of your mouth for ten seconds and realize that the asshole has not made an actual, non-retarded big-boy movie since 1997? Everything post-JACKIE BROWN has been like a big-budgeted version of those youtube tribute videos that dorks make of their favorite TV shows. WE GET IT! You like shitty old movies that none of us have ever seen. Great. NOW MAKE ANOTHER ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE!
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You're just as racist as Clint Eastwood. Where are the black actors? Don't you know that blacks were part of every company and regiment in the war? Seriously though, I'd like to see Eddie Murphy in this too.
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Why is everyone so geeked about Tarantino getting people who can't act? OK, Stallone is fine, but Arnold? Come on! His two good roles were Conan and Terminator. Kurt Russell has skills, but Van Damme and Lundgren were out acted by Stuntman Mike's CAR. If Pacino and DeNiro can't manage to make a decent flick together, what makes anyone think these guys can do any better? I like the idea of Tarantino getting folks who can actually do the job
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I can't wait for him to say to a German, "Can you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth???"
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Let him play a big singing German Fraloine.
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not soldiers - well - they're ex-soldiers that were off to be executed - hit by a nazi ambush - trying to fight their way through Axis and Allies to get to Switzerland. At least if it is anything like the original. So them being older, isn't a problem. WWII had men of all ages fighting, not just babyfaced teens-twenties.
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And have Tarantino add in a 15 minute CGI dinner scene where Lee Marvin and the boys talk about the Andrew's Sisters and Howard Hawks films.
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Forget this post, I wanna read that awesome spoiler filled review they just pulled of Russell Crowes new movie, a perfect mind, damn studios taking stuff down before we can finish reading it!!!!!! F U Michael Bay!!!
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Even if it's Tarantino, WWII as a backdrop has been done to death in film. Hopefully he actually brings something new to the table. I wouldn't care for it if it's a post-modernist genre meditation like Kill Bill and Death Proof.
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...Deathproof sucked ass.
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Right-o you are
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that yelled at a reporter when his girlfriend was being interviewed. He wrote or said some unflattering things about him. Anyone recall this?
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Come on, that kid playing a shaking-nervous crazy ass killer would be awesome. Am I the only one who has thought about this? If so, I want credit when he does so and gets an Oscar and everybody goes apeshit.
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Steve Buscemi could add some humor. Have him be the only one carrying simply a 9 mm pistol. He's cranky, tired, and hilarity ensues. Also, Clive Owen would be great. Michael Madsen would rock. He could fit that Tom Sizemore kind of role and be the ball-breaker.
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Kurt Russell, Bruce Willis, Josh Brolin, Michael Madsen, Willem Dafoe, and Matt Dillon.Just from the top of my head.
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how about the whole team is seagal, and you drop the pluralizing "s". Inglorious Bastard! and make it about saving pandas.
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Love that music.
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Talkin about what pretty shit the are in.
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Can't forget Bruce Campbell and of course you must cast the legendary Franco Nero to be taken seriously.
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As far as casting young, you better find some mooks instead of some of the pretty-boys around.
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I kinda doubt Zod had any racist intentions. Frankly, Sam Jackson has been cast to death, so that would probably just get obnoxious, and I'm not sure Eddie Murphy would fit in with the mood of this movie. What about that guy who plays the president in the Fifth Element? Or Carl Weathers? Now that would be pretty fucking cool. Chris Tucker was cast in a Tarantino movie before, so that might be interesting, if he can chill out a bit.
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Ext. Germany - night Kramer stumbles into a foxhole where Jerry and George hide. Kramer--Nazi's. They're everywhere! George--Oh my God, the Nazi's! Jerry-- Nazi's. Why do they call them Nazi's? George--I don't want to die. I still haven't found a woman who lets me do anal! Jerry-Do they call them Nazi's because they say "no" all the time. If they were more agreeable would they have been called "Yes-sies"? And what's with this Hitler guy and that mustache? Kramer--You know my friend Bob Sacamano had a mustache like that. Maybe he was a Nazi! George -- Do you think they have better food than we do in the prison camp? I'm thinking of surrendering.
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that's just a really bad idea
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would be perfect for this. and maybe Michael Biehn
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it'll have nazis. how can this fail?
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He needs to be in this. - No, I don't work for him.
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I'm hoping QT will get plenty of old skool 'exploitation' stars into IB, as well as a grizzled mob of heavy hitters for the Bastard line up (I doubt Arnie will make it in there though). I'm one for seeing the likes of Clancy Brown, Mike Beihn, Bill Paxton, Bo Svenson, Tim Roth, Steve Buscemi, Mike Madson, Kurt Russell, Sly, Carl Weathers, David Keith etc in the mix.
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Uncommon Valor. It was the first rated R movie I ever saw.
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But not in the way you think. I was going to address the bitter, snarky comments that typically appear here but since it's my first post, I'll refrain. Pulp Fiction was a revelation for me and I can't believe that Inglorious Bastards may see the light of day. I won't defend Death Proof because it don't need defendin' and personal taste is relative, the sum total of the intellectual and emotional experiences of an individual. But if you haven't seen any of the "shitty old movies" how can you comment on what you don't know? All this being said, Tarantino brought dialog back from the dead. Alright, bring the pain...
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SLY/ARNIE rocking out the spread gun with 30 lives
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Search your feelings...you know this to be true.
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You know, I was thinking the same. I realize they're supposed to be criminals, but seriously, are they going to be vets from WWI? And exactly how long have they been sitting around, just waiting to be executed? The "80s action star dream cast" would've been perfect back in the 90s, but it's just a little too late for a 2010 film. Not only would you constantly be wondering, "Why are these soldiers so old?", but you'd also constantly be saying, "Hey look, it's so-and-so!" QT should've made this movie years ago.
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Then go from there. It aint happening w/ Sly,Arnold, et al. Maybe Willis but I doubt it since he's supposed to do Pinkvile w/ Stone.
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Baby, you've got a stew going.
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anything but a huge letdown.
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I don't care for the split into two movies thing he did with Kill Bill. With proper editing, he could have chopped Kill Bill down to a single movie.Wanna bet a lot of the length in this flick will be the back stories of the crimes each guy committed? I'm not saying it's not interesting, but neither is it vital for the story. Still each one will get substantial cinematic treatment probably.
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Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill Pt 1. = Good Fun. Jackie Brown = SHIT. Reservoir Dogs = Horribly overwritten and badly directed. Kill Bill Pt.2 = Is he such a hack that he needs over four hours to tell a story, that frankly - other than the over-the-top gore that he stole from Lone Wolf and Cub - was stupid as all fuck. And the list goes on...
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Jul 08, 2008 4:29:09 PM CDT
C'mon guys! No Old Farts - it will become a silly parody!
by lanemyersclassic
You got to go with new blood - usher in a new era of fucked up criminals form today's fresh crop of actors. They don't have to be completely fresh, like say you could have Crispin Glover as some pyscho older guy. But leave yesterday's action heroes in the past and create something fresh.
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...is the most interesting development I think; this will be the first non-Weinstein backed Tarantino effort since Reservoir Dogs and to date Tarantino hasn't gone with any of the majors so it'll be interesting to see if they give him the leeway he previously got; my guess is that there is either some left over animosity regarding Grindhouse between Tarantino and Weinstein or perhaps Harvey simply can't take the financial risk again (the article does say that he may be invovled in a producer capacity) - still it'll be interesting to see if the studios let Tarantino be Tarantino or whether we get another beast entirely (who knows, maybe curbing some of his indulgent tendencies could work in the film's favour?)...
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Once again, a misnomer. Since when does the length of a film determine the ability of a director? Lawrence of Arabia, at 217 minutes is a masterpiece. You can't fuck with David Lean.
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...to wonder if QT's next movie will bewpeth actually parting money for after his last few disappointed and annoyed the hell out of me, my time be patience having to sit through endless smart ass yak yak scenes. From what little I know of this new scenario, it sounds like a dumb ass idea some first year scriptwriter might come up with. And if you think WW2 has been done to death, there's a boat load of real stories and angles that have never been told. No need to go making up some dumb ass caper movie for an excuse to run around and shoot Nazis. THAT'S been done to death. Guy needs to grow up and make a real movie with some emotion instead of the usual predictable schtick. Seriously, talk about flogging areas horse, QT. Enough already.
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I will pay $9.50 for that!
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a dead horse. damn predictive iPhone text piece o' crap!
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He would be perfect as Batman in Dark Knight Returns too.
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Throw in Michael Chiklis, Vincent D'Onofrio, James Woods, Nick Nolte, Brian Cox and Bob Hoskins at the screen. I demand manly men alternately shouting and whispering manly things at each other. In uniform, goddammit.
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Jul 08, 2008 5:03:54 PM CDT
Um, anyone thinking about a freaking BUDGET for this movie?
by wookie1972
Willis, Travolta, Jackson and Thurman all took pay cuts to make movies with QT because they believed in him. I seriously doubt Stallone, Arnie, or any of the other guys you're dreaming of will take a drastic cut for this movie. Face it, this is a pipe dream.
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I have had my fill of Tarantino after Death Proof. He really has a lot to prove right now, and I think going smaller and lower budget would be better than doing this vanity project.
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I want one scene with Sly, Arny, Bruce, and the other icons: Our young heroes, all cocky and full of themselves, run up against a unit of American Rangers, made up entirely of old action movie vets. After an intense staredown, the new heroes back down and carry on their way.
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Here's some of my suggestions:
Ryan Gosling for the crazy one
Matthew Fox
Josh Holloway
Vin Diesel (he'd chew some Tarantino dialogue)
Clancy Brown
Dude who played Keamy on Lost
The Rock (you know he has the potential)
Michael Clarke Duncan
Alec Baldwin
Andy why not - Harrison Ford
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Sorry about the lack of commmas, I forgot you can't list things here.
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because that's just as likely as any of the other suggestions made here.
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Jul 08, 2008 5:28:24 PM CDT
Arnold, Bruce, Sly, Segal, Van, Chan, Rourke,
by dracula_wants_the_amulet
Williamson, Russell, Ferrigno, The Barbarian Bros!
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I find the prevalence of user names which are spelled thusly: CAPITAL_UNDERSCORE very tiresome. Entirely too much aping of one DGDB.
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I mean Germans. He really wants to be one.
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Man, wouldn't it be awesome if Tarantino hung up his own scripts and re-did Robocop? I mean, someone is going to -- might as well be him. Or, even better... Robert Rodriguez. =]
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I agree. I've said this before, but Jackie Brown was more or less a movie for grownups. QT got scared when it got a less-than-stellar reception and regressed into the idiot-savant fanboy that people wanted it to be.
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Really the last few things he has done have not been all that good..Kill Bill SHOULD have been GREAT, but dragging it out for 2 movies was simply silly. Have not seen Death Proof..nor judging by reviews/talkbacks will I.
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Although I think the idea of bringing these 80's action stars together is a bit of a stretch, and I doubt QT is even considering this. The Govenator just can't go off and make movies, he's got a freakin' state to run. They're 65 years old for Christ sake. QT has said that he doesn't write for stars, but has and will find the best actor for the part: popular, once-popular, whatever. I think it will be a mesh up of some of our best character-actors working today, some very well known stars, and some stars of yesteryear. You won't see any pretty boys in this film. He's looking for his Dirty Dozen. Oh, and the film should be estrogen free. Unless, it's a chick getting banged in a flashback or something. Ya know, in good taste.
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Snipes is off making movies in Thai-Land, pending his appeal.
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even if you count Kill Bill as one. Try as he might, he can't get rid of My Best Friend's Birthday. Also, you're not counting the atrocity he did for Four Rooms.
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than see another self-important, over-written, under-edited movie from QT. He's a one-trick pony. Enough, already. Now, fuck you.
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Got a copy. Not sure if it was the one that got sent to Beaks. If it's real, apparently QT thinks "Bastards" is spelled "Basterds." You'd think he'd have looked it up some time in the past decade.
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with KILL BILL and DEATH PROOF, he QT "was able to gradually expand his visual vocabulary to the point where, now, no one can possibly question his ability to pull off a full-on combat film." Yeah, we can, because "Kill Bill" and "Deathproof" were both fucking nearly unwatchable. There is no defense for the over-written boredom that was "Deathproof." Absolutely none. And anyone thinks so needs to get off QT's crack pipe.
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Will Damon and Clooney follow behind?
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I love WWII movies as much as the net guy and I certainly will go see this (assuming it ever gets made). But is it true that this is a remake? He's taken god knows how many years to rewrite someone else's creation? Okay, I get it. He likes crappy 70's B-movies. Can't he come up with something original for a change? Pulp Fiction had an original vision to it even as it drew from so many pop culture references. Everything else has been a sad attempt to make a "fake B-movie". It's as if he's become a parody of himself. I was encouraged by the news so many years ago that he was working on a WWII flick. Now that I hear that he's ripping off someone else's creation YET AGAIN I must admit that I don't feel any excitement for it.
Also, enough with the wet dreams about Stallone, Arnold and every other fifty or sixty year old former action star. That would be the lamest thing ever. Give us good character actors who would be the right age for a combat infantryman. The entirely under appreciated Michael Shannon from the movie BUG would get my vote. -
should be "I love WWII movies as much as the NEXT guy"
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and the guy who played the straight son in Birdcage. Oh, and Fred Thompson. I should be a motherfucking casting director!
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I'm not excited because 1) it's probably not going to happen and 2) there are other, better directors who are actually making movies while QT is talking about his.
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Uh, haven't they been gone for years now? Oh, and please, let's not overhype or blow Tarintino out proportion here. He's not *that* great.
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Force 10 from Navarone. Him, Harrison Ford, Richard Kiel (Jaws from the James Bond flicks). This was a great movie. "Where'd you learn to do that," soldier to Weathers after he kills a Nazi with a knife throw. Response "Harvard U man."
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Jul 08, 2008 6:32:41 PM CDT
Sean Bean, Rutger, Shatner, Buscemi, Michael Berryman
by dracula_wants_the_amulet
Walken, Angus Scrimm, Jeff Goldblum, Christopher Lee, Kevin Corrigan, Warwick Davis, James Woods, Marilyn Chambers, Peter "Give him an Oscar Already" O Toole, Dan Haggerty, Hector Elizondo, Charles Martin Smith, Meg Foster, Tom Noonan, Ernie Reyes Jr., Jesse Ventura, Burt Young Andrew Robinson, Keith Gordon, Roger Moore, Kim Myers, Jerry Reed, John Waters, Udo Kier, Danica Mckella, Nick Nolte, Lee Arenberg, Mark Hamil, Abe Vigoda, Dee Snider, Dom DeLuise, Richard Tyson, Geoffrey Lewis, Richard Lynch, Helen Slater, Robert Davi, John Neville, Keith David, The Frog Bros, Paul Rubens, Judd Nelson, Pauly Shore, Short Round/Data, Jaleel White (Urkel,) Soleil Moon Frye (Punky Brewster), Tyler Perry, Deep Roy...
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does anyone seriously think Arnie could play an Ameican GI?
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Come on man... Think! He needs to play a villain once more.
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no one wants to see a movie about a bunch of old men. Brad Pitt plays younger...make Ashton Kutcher his sidekick and the movie will make bank.
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Yeah I know I said he is over, but he's over like Prince or Springsteen or any other artist who peaked in the stratosphere earlier in their careers. At least give the mofo props...he directed Res Dogs and Pulp Fiction. No one can call Pulp Fiction crap or totally unoriginal..just no way. That movie never gets old. So yeah, IB will probably suck, but Taratino will always be the bad mofo.
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I see where youre coming from - but that doesn't mean I have to get excited when he just talks about a project. The Coens don't talk up their movies, they just make them.
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I see where youre coming from - but that doesn't mean I have to get excited when he just talks about a project. The Coens don't talk up their movies, they just make them.
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Jul 08, 2008 6:48:19 PM CDT
I liked the QT Four Rooms segment the first time I saw it...
by wookie1972
When it was on Alfred Hitchcock Presents. (Actually, I saw the remake from the 1985 show, but still...)
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Too many big name action stars, even hasbeens from the 80's, and it'd turn into the sort of mess that would make a good tell-all book 15 years down the line.
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Should be in this. AND, Fuck the AICN Army of QT haters! Go circlejerk-off to superbad, knocked up and drillbit.
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Might work although I always prefered him as a supporting character.
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So deal with it.
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QTs best films, in addition to being well written narratives with inventive camera work and great dialogue (all of which Kill Bill had), are built around a set of great performances. Not so with Kill Bill, really. Beatrix Kiddo was supposed to be the ringleader of that show, and she never really came alive as a character... Uma wasn't *bad* in the role, but she also wasn't classic or even that memorable. She seemed kind of vacant, and perhaps a bit confused about what she was doing there... it wasn't her fault, really, she was just slightly miscast. Uma Thurman does not really = vengeance and anger. A young actress with more fire like Jennifer Jason Leigh, Sean Young, or heck, Michelle Pfeiffer in Catwoman mode would have been better. Uma just couldn't sell the lethal rage of that character... that's why the film has faded somewhat in the minds of fanboys.
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Yeah, that's the major problem with these WWII ensemble pics, TOO MANY REACTION SHOTS. Hell, the Dirty Dozen is like 85% reaction shots. It's like... Line of dialogue, followed by shot of Lee Marvin lookin' at Bronson. Shot of Bronson lookin' at Borgnine. Borgnine lookin' at Cassavetes. Cassavetes lookin' at Jaeckel. Jaeckel trying not to look at Kennedy. Kennedy glancing at Ryan. Ryan scowling at Meeker. Lopez trying to keep a straight face as he nudges Savales. Sutherland grinning as he looks around at everyone. Next line of dialogue... rinse and repeat.
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Saving Private Ryan has my least favorite series of reaction shots ever. During the part right after the Abraham Lincoln quote is read for the first (!!!!?!?!) time. Weak.
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Jeroen Krabbe and Tim Roth. And Christopher Eccleston. And Ken Branagh and Joseph Fiennes. And Ben Foster, Rutger Hauer, Ed Norton, Terence Stamp and Ian McNeice. You know it.
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shia(t) lebouf
justin long
one of the jonas brothers
that "your getting a dell dude" guy (career revival casting) the tall guy from "big bang theory" and as the lead Neil Patrick "ww2 didn't have 'don't ask, don't tell' policy" Harris (name above the title for doogie) gotta get that tween demographic
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He's all used up. He's a bore. Get him a job back at the video store and tell him to shut up with that whiny voice.
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It was a great 100 minute film crammed into four hours. Self-indulgent toss of the highest order. If QT loves exploitation cinema so much, he should go to Roger Corman, get $750K and make a movie the proper way in 30 days. Ten years to write a "guys on a mission" movie? The dilatory cunt.
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this is actually a flick that would really benefit from the B-movie character actors Tarantino loves so much. Pitt's cool sometimes, but still... Meh...
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Fuck yeah!
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Damn You Michael Bay
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New Rule: Shitting on QT just to look hip and less gullible now makes you a jerkoff. Honest criticism = acceptable. Thoughtlessly tossing off words like hack, has-been, ripoff-artist, etc = You're a jerkoff.
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Saw him dance to Tom Jones. That guy has all the moves.
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Jul 08, 2008 7:59:07 PM CDT
Also, it's hard to write a guy off over one or two movies
by gilbertrsmith
...that you subjectively don't like. QT has yet to release an across the board failure on the level of Jack or Hook, so it's laughable to try and write him off so quickly, and generally comes off as either misinformed, or an attempt to look cool. Ever since Pulp Fiction, people have been calling him a hack who got lucky and peaked too soon, but it's fact that every single one of his movies wins over a dedicated cult following.
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You know all of the suggestions of older actors you guys have made are much more encouraging than reading that Brad Pitt is in the running. I have plenty of 40something A-listers I could think of too, but they're just not that wonderful. I swear my favorite suggestion so far has been Mr. T.
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It's still pretty FUCKING GREAT in my memory.
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I'm watching America's got Talent right now, and this martial artist used the song from the Kill Bill trailer as their background music, then this trailer for a local law office came on and they used a cheap knockoff of that song, and then a Kung Fu Panda trailer came on using that song. It's kind of stupid to argue that the movie hasn't left a mark.
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Worked on a project with William Smith a few years ago. The man has Alzheimer's. Seriously. He was reading me his poetry in that cool raspy voice of his and then about two minutes later he read the same poem. He did this several times, each time first telling me the same background story about the forthcoming poem. It was really heartbreaking. Sad thing is, he's still doing films WITH ALZHEIMERS. Granted, they're bottom of the barrel flicks, but it's kind of a shame to sort of prop the old man up and have him talk in front of cameras. (He can't remember any dialogue.) Another time I saw him at a convention. A fan brought him a poster of one of his biggest hits and Bill says, "I'm not in this movie! I've never heard of this movie!" It was truly a sad sight to behold.
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Have sex. Pay for it if you have to. Then watch it again. Plus IB should rock no matter the actors. I just hope half the movie is the soldiers factory workin' wives at home sitting around a nineteen forties kitchen talking a bunch shit about their gimp foreman. Just to spite the Death Proof haters.
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Saving Private Ryan rocked the shit. I think that and Platoon are the two most realistic American war films ever made.
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sounds fucking amazing!
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I know this isn't a gossip site (and god bless it for that) but does anyone know if this is an official divorce? Or is it just becoming an open relationship maybe?
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...if you're fucking with us or not, but if you have a copy of that script, what favors (sexual or otherwise) does a brother have to do to get the proverbial hook-up?!
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I like the man, but you and all the other QT fanboys need to back off the gas. QT *can* be an original, brilliant filmmaker, but I think it's a valid complaint to say that he too often relies on the talents of those who've gone before him. He does too many remakes and pastiches for some people. I'm okay with it, I think he's pretty great at what he does, but you HAVE to admit that what he does is limited. Which is reason #1 that I'm also in the "Inglorious Bastards? Who cares?" camp at the moment. I also was greatly disappointed at Death Proof. The Stuntman Mike stuff was killer, the long car chase with Zoe Bell on the hood was a hell of a lot of fun, but I was ready to fall asleep during those interminably long stretches of "dialogue". Which were really QU monologues stuffed in the mouths of various hot chicks. I like talky hot chicks, I do, but man did they all sound like QT in drag...
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PTA, Spike Jones, Fincher are at least on par and I think PTA is the finer filmaker. And of course you got the brothers, Coens bringing it every time except for two. i.e. Ladykillers. Hell, I'd put the man who wasnt' there up w/ anything he's done since Pulp. Hell even David O Russell has the same amount of talent. He might be the biggest asshole in directing but I"d put Three Kings up against QT's past. And of course I"m forgetting Alexander Payne
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Jul 08, 2008 10:05:12 PM CDT
Bill Duke, Crispin Glover, Richard Lynch, Michael Parks, Brian D
by miss_marples
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death proof was indeed great -- and will still be watched 100 years from now... a.d.d.-addled haters, name your favorite film from 2007 and we'll see if that's the case.
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Oh fuck, PG-13, edited to shit, CGI!!!! NOOOOOOOO
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Jul 08, 2008 10:31:30 PM CDT
"but the wait will undoubtedly be worth it if BASTARDS builds on
by aeghast
..oh really?
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..builds on the movie-movie brilliance of his previous two pictures"
sorry--cut the post
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First of all, way to predict the future. Did you get the flashlight under your face, too, just like Conan O'Brien? Second of all, here are just a few 2007 films better than Death Proof: Ratatouille, The Bourne Ultimatum, The Assassination of Jesse James, Black Snake Moan, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Juno, Knocked Up, Lars and the Real Girl... I mean, the list could go on and on. I thought Planet Terror was the better half of Grindhouse itself. Death Proof looked prettier and had more potential, but Planet Terror actually felt like it got the premise and had more fun with it.
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Starring Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal! Rudyrusso, I've been on the boards a lot tonight and I'm re-discovering the hilarious fallacy of trying to argue with a fanboy. It's fucking impossible. You said, "one good reason" and I gave you one, and all you can do is accuse me of jealousy. I don't want Tarantino's life nor his career. What he does isn't much different than an adaptation, I agree. Okay, hooray. I even said I like the man's work. BUT it's derivative. Nothing wrong with being derivative. But if you're someone who is disinclined to enjoy derivative work, if you hunger for originality, you're not going to like Quentin Tarantino. And it's okay. You're perfectly within your right. You can love the shit out of him, rudyrusso, but you have to back off on these fucking absolutes. "better than anyone". "no two ways about it". "categorically incorrect". Just cut it out. The absolutes from the QT haters are ridiculous, but so are your absolutes.
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If you don't think the final climactic scene in Mexico with Bill, Beatrix, and Bebe is touching, scary, and heartbreaking all at once, then I feel sorry for you. Come on, that last shot of Bill taking the five steps has got to give you chills! Fuck, and another thing, Tarantino movies are LONG people. He lets his characters breathe. Would you call Glengarry Glen Ross too "wordy?" If the first group of girls in Death Proof hadn't talked about guys for half an hour, I would have never got to see that they were all pretty cool and would definitely not have cared when the hot Latin one got her face sliced off. I would have never learned the secret meaning to "Like a Virgin." I would have never learned how Christopher Walken was determined not to "let the slopes get their greasy little hands on the boy's birthright." Every long monologue is an enriching story unto itself. I hate all of you.
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I completely disagree on Grindhouse. Planet Terror felt like an homage or tribute to Grindhouse movies - it was always winking at you. Tarantino actually made a grindhouse film. He took the assignment seriously and didn't worry about hitting all the fanboy notes just right - instead he shot the film fast, dirty, and without a lot regard to the ending, which was perfect. It was a grindhouse movie through and through - reckless, shoddy, visceral, and ultimately A THROW AWAY MOVIE. That's the key - it was never meant to be a masterpiece. It was meant to be a shitty but fun double feature. And in that sense, the film was flawless.
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Jul 08, 2008 11:46:51 PM CDT
I love how Quentin has to re-prove himself on each new film....
by ribbitking
...and that's because he's not trying to repeat himself over and over... been awhile since anyone in a black and white suit has shown up.
I remember after Jackie Brown everyone said he lost it,... most misunderstood that Jackie was his version of an Elmore Leonard novel. So then he had to prove himself with Kill Bill. Then comes Death Proof, which i love, but even though most agree he proved himself as an action director... alot of people thought the movie sucked. Idk what my point was, but watch T reprove himself again. -
First of all, stop foaming at the mouth and falling over backwards and read my fucking post. I LIKE QT. I THINK HE'S GOOD. But I'm not going to metaphorically suck the man's dick and I'm not going to ignore what are LEGIT complaints about his work. That's what a TOOL would do, you friggin tool. Second, who has whose head in whose momma's ass, with an absolute utter bullshit statement like that? Single most influential??? Reservoir Dogs, his first REAL film (done in 92, so he's shy of the 20 year mark by 4 years) was an "homage" (his own word) to Kubrick's "The Killing" and the film "City on Fire"! If anyone was a f'n influence in the "last 20 years", it was Ringo Lam! So let's ignore John Hughes, Steven Spielberg, Ridley Scott, David Lynch, David Cronenberg, Sam Raimi, Stanley Kubrick, John Carpenter, Wes Craven, The Motherfucking COEN BROTHERS, the list just goes on and on of influential filmmakers of the last 20 years, any of which could be considered at LEAST equals of Tarantino, most of which could be considered FAR more influential than QT. Let's ignore them. Because that's what a crazy fanboy does. And by the by, fanboy long ago evolved past usage as strictly a comic-book geek identifier.
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But even I can't defend the self-indulgent crap that was death proof. I wanted to love it but just couldn't get past the excessive pop culture dialogue. I actually went back and rewatched the "extended cut" on DVD and the film was even worse. Besides the last 20 minutes the movie is an overlong bore. I have high hopes for IB and hopefully it is a creative reawakening for QT but that is going to require him cutting down his dialogue scenes and keeping the plot moving.
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Jul 09, 2008 2:24:18 AM CDT
Won't QT have to join Director's Guild to take it to a studio?
by greenflame0
If the project is too expensive for the Weinstein company, wouldn't that mean QT would have to join the Director's Guild, as isn't that why he hasn't been offered studio directing jobs
(for not being a DGA member).
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that is, of course, PULP FICTION. DEATH PROOF was fun (somehow), the rest is horribly overrated. Especially the two atrocious KILL BILL crapfests.
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Is Pitt's whole Soderbergh-Clooney-Etc crew going to follow him to this film?
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good point, but he slowed the shutter speed... not the film speed.
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Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are classics.
Jackie Brown and Kill Bill 1 are excellent.
Kill Bill 2 is good.
Death Proof is pants, apart from the car chase and the cinematography. I see a trend here and I hope Quentin bucks it. Everyone loves a comeback.
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Jul 09, 2008 4:19:24 AM CDT
Tehre's an underlying element in these posts that he needs the s
by zapano
That's ridiculous. Apart from Deathproof, all his movies have been strong financial successes. He needs to go back to casting excellent actors and none of these second rate wananbes that ruined deathproof. Thurman and Carradine was bad casting as well that severly undermined the Kill Bill films.
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Frank that is.
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Correct sir, Zodiac is a new classic
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::ugh:: I'm delusional. Still burping up a premio sausage sandwich from shea stadium yesterday
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Dark Knight. Cause thats whats important right now.
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So sexy. And yes, I'd prefer it to be one solid movie rather than a long movie cut in two. They got away with it with Kill Bill, but let's not make a habit of it.
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Can we get Swazye (before he dies) and Charlie Sheen in this as well for a mini-Red Dawn reunion?
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People are turning on Mr. Foot Fetish blabber movie maker like they did with M. Nighttwistaylan.
WWII seen it too many times.
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one of the best movie-going experiences I've ever had. I loved it both times I saw it on opening weekend! Overall it was my 4th favorite movie of the year (Grindhouse as a whole) behind No Country, There Will Be Blood, and Gone, Baby Gone. To me, Quentin has never had a mistep. Not ever movie is going to be the same. My favorites are his epics (Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill), but I several people who prefer his smaller movies (Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, and Deathproof). I have never seen so many haters on one message board. Hate all you want, but Inglorious Bastards is going to rock!
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So it won't make much sense to have a squad of 50 year old soldiers will it?
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T is for talentless. Can't act, certainly can't direct and can't write. Please will somebody put him out of our cinema going misery...I swear I'd rather watch Matrix 3 than on of his films..
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mind you I'm not so good at typing.. :) Doh..
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...Tarantino should definitely go nuts with the casting and get some "greatest hits" types in there. My only reservation is that, as fun as it would be to see Arnold in one last good film, he pretty much nailed the "Inglorious Bastards" role in "Predator". Unless Tarantino casts Schwarzenegger on the NAZI side. That would be pretty wild, but only if he surrounded him with people like Udo Kier and Sebastian Koch and some other badass German actors I don't know about yet.
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Yeah, The RZA and Robert Rodriguez provided some original score cues on both volumes of Kill Bill, but I can't imagine Tarantino's penchant for "hip", forgotten songs from the 60's and 70's attached to a WWII flick. Q should get a great composer who's shamefully underemployed and give him a Travolta-like "comback" score, like Fincher did with David Shire on Zodiac.
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Alright, who wants to hook us all up with some nice summer reading? Fenton Crisp?
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...he doesn't grow some fucking balls and get SLY and ARNOLD to commmit to this project. If he can do that, he will get all the financing he wants!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I remember QT talking years ago about how he would like to use songs by Edith Piaf on the soundtrack...that would make a lot of sense, actually.
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Jul 09, 2008 12:05:30 PM CDT
Brian Dennehy, Max Von Sidow & Clarence Williams the 3rd!
by ganymede3010
Now that's an A list cast;)
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Jul 09, 2008 12:23:54 PM CDT
I think QT should use only actors who have actually served time.
by lanemyersclassic
To lend some authenticity - I guess that means Sizemore, R. Downy Jr., and Nick Nolte are in it for sure. OJ as a Nazi sympathizer???
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I know, not much of a stretch.
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Seems like a Wild Bunch remake would be up his alley. And it could be the project for Stallone and Schwarzenegger...
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idea and not based on something that has been already done before. ALl of his films, the exception is true romance, are reworkings of other books or films. Is QT capable of making an original film now there is a question. HIs first three films were homages/reworkings of The french new wave and elmore leonard. Kill bill vol one and two were honmages to the Shaw brothers. death proof and planet terror were homages/reworkings of grindhouse.
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http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/weve_got_quentin_tarantinos_in.html remove the spaces
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ok here is my wish list.
The perfect guy for this film and its not gonna happen is Mel Gibson as a grizzled old squadron leader . He looks the part and has that thing about him that lends itself well to this film , but it will be way too distracting to have him fighting Nazi’s, it might become a side joke that takes away from the film. Although maybe killing Nazi’s is a good way for him to show how sorry he is for what he said
Clive Owen ( the coolest new actor out there )
Arnold - (as a giddy crazy ass Nazi general , whose always smiling with a cigar in his mouth )
Jason Statham ( just great )
Kevin Durand ( keamy from lost This man has to be in this film)
Patrick swayze ( hurry and cast)
rutger haur ( another great Nazi )
Will smith ( a great what the fuck casting moment playing a Jim brown fred Williamson role)
Ice cube ( i picked will first only because it would be such a clusterfuck to have him in this movie, but ice cube would do a better job )
Michael pare ( he needs a comeback )
Sean Connery ( a small cameo )
Clint eastwood ( same thing)
This film also needs to cast a stand up comic playing against type kinda like don rickles did in Kelly’s heroes . I heard Adam sandler was gonna be in the film, so maybe -
let me know. So we can sit down in the classroom and I can read you the entry for "influential". Kay, little pardner? Now you can listen to a half hour of that emo music you kids like so much but then it's off to bed. You've got Remedial Film School for Pathetic Fanboys in the mornin.
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KB2 was a western of sorts
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Tarantino is a genre filmmaker. Period. But the life and imagination that he infuses his scripts with surpasses 75% of his colleagues out there. Name me another filmmaker that has more engaging dialogue working today. Do it. Name another writer that has a better ear for the female voice than Tarantino. Do it. Name another director that can make "FUCK" sound sweeter than chocolate. Name another director that can have an off-screen voice talk for five minutes while another character looks at the camera and still make it interesting. I defy you.
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I was just sort of expecting him to go super western with cowboys and indians and Mexicans and stuff. Maybe he could remake Posse instead...
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Tarantino could have been remembered as one of the great directors of all time, I really think he could. But his output hasn't been high enough (5 films so far, I don't count KB as two films, just one big self indulgent wank, pretty good wank tho). I really hope Inglorious isn't split in two and that someone helps him to rein himself in and distill it all down to one amazing film.
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First of all, you've got to differentiate between Tarantino the director and Tarantino the writer. The "more engaging dialogue" is due to his work as a writer. But if you want to compare the dialogue of writer-directors, I'd say Kevin Smith is up there. David Mamet. Spike Lee. The Coens. Woody Allen (still making movies). PT Anderson. Wes Anderson. I mean, it's like the list I wrote for rudyrusso. Is QT good? Sure. But he's not the greatest. A writer with a better ear for the female voice? Well, gee, how about at least half the working women screenwriters? Not that you'd know any of them because they're generally not writer-directors. I'd say Callie Khouri has a WAY better ear for the female voice, and she's an Oscar winner. Nora Ephron. Sofia Coppola. Those are just the more famous ones. "Fuck" sounding sweeter than chocolate is so subjective as to be laughable, but again I have to say Kevin Smith does "fuck" pretty well. Spike Lee writes a mean "fuck". And can you deny the awesomeness that is the "fuck"itude of The Big Lebowski? And finally, it's again highly subjective that an O.S. voice talking for 5 minutes is "interesting", but I'd say the section of Unbreakable wherein we slowly dolly in to look at Willis whilst doctors and patients are talking all around him is pretty impressive. I also think the scene in Magnolia when John C Reilly is talking to his girlfriend is fascinating, and the camera stays on her the whole time. Again, QT is a damn fine filmmaker, but get off the man's dick.
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QTs female dialogue is as stylised and unrealistic as his male dialogue. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's part of his style, but he in no way writes a genuine female voice.
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