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Alleged Story On Movement on SUPERMAN movie
Ok folks... This sounds like the biggest load of malarky I've seen in a long long time, but... And I'm going to say this once... The only backing I can give this is that it did appear in the Melbourne Sunday Herald Sun. Did they do their research? I don't know. This just sounds unlikely as hell, but I've had a good 40 folks from Melbourne send this one in to me, and I am familiar with some of them as supplying truthful reports. SO yes, I believe this was in the Sunday Herald Sun... But do I believe the story? Well, this is a case where... Wait and see what appears in the trades. Till then... hope that well... Given we really don't have enough information to form an opinion on whether or not we want this to be true or not... Just assume it's BS till proven fact.
G'day Harry!
Do you know this already?
Today's (June 6th) Sunday Herald Sun newspaper in Melbourne contains a
report suggesting that a new Superman storyline is being considered by
Warner.
Twenty-year-old Luke Leeson from Oxenford, south of Brisbane, was flown to
LA after negotiations which resulted in "an offer rumoured to be more than
$500,000." That's Aussie dollars, presumably.
More from the article:
"He had no previous experience in the movie industry, let alone written a
big-budget movie storyline.
A long-time comic book reader and Superman fan, he produced 42 hand-written
scenes on about 20 pages and gave tham to a friend's cousin who had contacts
in Hollywood."
"Mr Leeson, who was consulting entertainment lawyers, could not speak about
the plot because of a confidentiality agreement.
But he did reveal his story took Superman 'back to his roots'."
The article says Leeson wrote the storyline during a "two-week break."
That's all I got for ya.
No Bothans died for this, 'cause I just pilfered it from the paper.
Oh, and if I hafta have one of those nicknames, call me ... Todd Anderson!
(Which doesn't sound like a nickname at all, really!)
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Oh sure. And I told this one guy on AOL one night that I just signed a deal to SKG to produce a six-picture package of sequels to Armageddon, Independence Day and Godzilla. I set it up through this guy who knows this person who supposedly knows this janitor who once had to clean out the private bathroom of Jeffrey Katzenburg's office when it over-flowed because some Australian moron dropped his huge 32oz can of Fosters in the damn thing whilst setting up a deal for a new Superman feature. Pardon me, but I think this guy needs some more Lithium or Durizac 16-- anyone?
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it'll probably turn out to be bullshit, but hey, its nice to think that us small folk can make an impression from time to time....it don't matter anyway, it would be criminal to film another script ahead of kevin smiths brilliant one, up, up and away!!!!
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Are you serious??????
This sounds so much like messy fanboy dreams that I couldn't even BEGIN to take this seriously! I mean, who doesn't want to write the next Superman movie?? Things like this do not happen in Hollywood that much...
Now about that X-Men movie I wrote... -
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The best part is the line about 'taking Superman back to his roots.' Yeah, that's just what Warner is looking for- a Superman for the '30s.
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I checked out the Sunday Herald Sun website (sundayheraldsun.com.au) as well as the other News Corp papers in Oz, and couldn't find the alleged article to which this spy refers. It looks like the web site doesn't have all the tiny articles in the paper, but even so, it seems unlikely that this article really exists.
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I'm an Aussie who thinks that this is the wish of some fanboy Superman wannabe.
Isn't it a bit too convevient that the guys name is comprised of some Star Wars actor's/characters name (Luke + Liam + Neeson = Luke Leeson)??
Perhaps with all the Star Wars hype lately, it has taken over the hoaxers mind.
If Mr. Leeson lives just "south of Melbourne", then why on earth was it reported ONLY in the Melbourne Sun Herald?? These 2 captials are in opposite directions as capitals can get. Heck, they're on opposite ends of the country!! (Look at a map if you don't believe me...)
Harry, has anyone from any other _state_ in Australia besides Victoria (Melbourne's state) contacted you with this information?
Perhaps, a bunch of people from Melbourne got together and decided to email you numerous times...
I might check out the Sydney Sun Herald and see if the article appears...
And why would anyone offer a guy a scripting role who has had *NO* PREVIOUS experience in the film industry? By damn, I may as well be directing the next X-files movie...
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I would shock me if (whenever in the vast continuim of time this project ever takes off) Kevin Smith's script wasn't eventually used. I read it for the first time about a month ago, and I must say, the story left me pleasantly suprised. I can really see this thing being a big-budget Warner's vehicle. I can easily see Cage, Chris Rock, and Spacey all having a turn at this thing. But that's all a long way off. As far as 'said-mystery-script' rumor here goes, all I'll say is crazier things have happened in the movie industry.
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Give me a break. 'nuff said.
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Pretty lame if you ask me. Not a real entertaining read. I think the new Superman project is best left drifting further out to sea. But here's the link anyway-
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I live in teh Dallas area and I'm ready to make movies! If interested write "eammonskitchen@juno.com"
Superman:
They need it to start with the demise of the man of steel and get Chris Reeve to do a death sequence. Then they can go with a loose version of the comic. -
Hey mate, Warner Brothers has already spent close to 20 million on sets and costumes for a flick that will NOT BE MADE!! Get it? This flick had a hit-miss director(Burton), a hit-miss star(Cage) and a bad script attached to it. The last Batman cost the studio a fortune and reaped nothing. Actually, that sounds like the story for WB for the last 2 years. Basically, the studio cut their losses---the film is dead.Studio heads Semel and Daly run away to fight another day.(singing) Bravely ran away, bravely ran away, away!!...
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The next Superman will actually be called STEEL WHEEL SUPERMAN to be directed starring Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder an Richard Pryor reprising their roles with a wacky re-appearance of the late George Reeve who challenges Marlon Brando to a Pasta eating contest. All to be directed by the deranged vision of David Lynch. this is all true and God strike me dead if otherwise!
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gimme a friggin break people! how the hell can you have a superman movie without christopher reeves???? hes the superman we've all come to love and respect in the film world! and besides, he makes a perfect superman...to even think of casting someone else as superman is crazy! it just wouldnt work!! and was nick cage really supposed to play superman a while ago? if he was, then whatevr fool who came up with that idea should be shot! chris reeves is the only superman. there can be no other.
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Jun 07, 1999 10:58:43 AM CDT
I WROTE A FEW IDEAS ABOUT THE NEXT "BATMAN" FILM ON A COCKTAIL N
by janedoe33
My name is Liam Skywalker and I have a great treatment for a Batman sequel called "Batman V: Batman Raises the Roof, Homeboy". Of course I can't give too many details on the plot, but it does involve Batman teaming up with a big, smelly Saint Bernard and fighting crime. Any agents or managers interested in shopping my napkin around? Serious offers only, please.
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honestly, why is everyone so excited about a Superman movie? Superman is cool cuz he was like a "first." He's an icon, but not that interesting of a character. And why the hell doesn't anyone think of DEAN CAIN when thinking of a Superman movie. He was only the best Superman ever!!! That show was very interesting. Instead of stooping to an unnecessary low like The Flash and Generation X seemed to do, L&C went a different route and worked well on many levels. Why not make a movie version of LOIS AND CLARK??? after Warner does Gremlins 3 of course...
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I agree with you that Christopher Reeve should play Superman. Now they can do 2 things. Rewrite Superman as a paraplegic hero, or use CGI to make Chris Reeve walk again. The first idea would be almost like stealing from Damon Wayans....remember Handi-Man? The second would be like a superhero version of Jar Jar Binks except with Chris Reeve's face attached. And may get greenlighted too.... as long as the movie execs smoke some of the same shit you've been smoking, Dark Horse... pass the pipe.
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Im sorry but that all sounds like BS to me, when have movie studios, execs, or anybody in the business entrusted a script into the hands of a nobody. And a comic book nerd nobody at that! Don't believe this thing for a second guys, besides as we all know Australia was started as a prison colony, which is one more reason why we can never trust anything that comes out of there.
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Harry, you disappoint me. Haven't you heard how studios won't accept unsolicited material. You need an agent. Handing it to your Hollywood buddy does not count as solicited. Sounds like someone similar to the Pelican Brief.
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I've read the Kevin Smith treatment, and it is WAY overhyped. Several parts of the film were horrible, including a totally unnecessary Braniac/Luthor amalgam villian. I don't like the idea of Kevin doing any comic-to-film material other than Daredevil, and maybe not even that. He put his own Catholic spin on the character that made it interesting. Otherwise, he needs to stick to what he knows. Obviously, Superman is not a blood and guts Wolverine type character. Look at both Superman and Captain America...they are basically portrayed morally as squares in the comic books. I like it that way. Kevin Smith's version had Supes carrying on a affair with Lois, something the original Man of Steel would never have done. There's zero sexual tension in the script, which is the whole hook for the Lois Superman/Clark relationship in the first place, and worst of all, Lex Luthor is reduced to a pawn. Folks, Luthor is the premire Superman villian. The cool thing about him is that he's a mere human who is capable of taking this otherworldly man down. I say throw it out, set the film in the '40s or 50's and give it to someone who is proven to write EPIC screenplays. Start at the BEGINNING for pete's sake. Why are they starting at the end with a balding, middle-aged man? Yeah, Nic's going to hold up real well over possible sequels. And just because Lucas was successful doesn't mean you can start telling stories in reverse WB!
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Glad to see good 'ol jelloboy around. I agree with you man, let the Animated people handle it. They know what they're doing. Why the WB hasn't figured this out yet is beyond me. The viewership for Batman Beyond and the Adventures of Batman/Superman must have at least 50% adult viewership. They're probably afraid it won't translate well to live action. Yet, they will let Akiva Goldsman write three Batman movies. Who is this guy blowing?
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His initials are LL, it must be true!
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Jun 07, 1999 3:51:39 PM CDT
I wouldn't put it past Sony to give away money, Peters and Guber
by paragonian
Sony attracts more rotten people than the prison institutions and organized crime put together.
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Jun 07, 1999 4:01:25 PM CDT
UPDATE ON MY "BATMAN" TREATMENT. I'M GOING TO BE RICH...RICH!!!
by janedoe33
Good news my fellow jerks. Immediately after I posted my announcement (see above post), I got calls from seven different agents and three different managers. They all wanted to represent me and my "Batman" treatment napkin. I went with the biggest name of course - a super agent at one of the most powerful agencies in town. (I'm not going to mention the name, but the company's initials are C.A.A.) Anyway, my agent immediately sent out a faxed copy of my ideas. Well, suffice to say it started a major bidding war among several companies. We went with the best offer of course, one that allowed me to direct the project and oversee the casting and soundtrack. I think I'll put my own band on the soundtrack. We're kind of a ska-country group with a little bit of hip-hop for extra "dopeness". Anyways, so much has happened since then. George Lucas (that's right - THE George Lucas) called and wants me to help him write the next Star Wars movie. I'm like "George...let's get it straight. I'm into the whole collaboration thing. If I'm gonna be on this project, I'm doing it my way." Of course, Lucas was like "Whatever you say - you're the boss." What a guy. Now, I'm still in kind of the "ideas" stage of the script, so any ideas from you AICN readers would be most appreciated. Here's a vague outline of what's going to happen though...
WARNING! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
It starts off with Obi-Wan teaching a young Anakin Skywalker learning how to use a lightsaber. Anakin's a novice of course, so he accidentally slices Jar Jar's head off. And then he'll say something like "Uh-oh! I fucked up!" And Obi-Wan will just be laughing. Then Yoda comes in and he's all high on cocaine. He's like "Yo-yo-yo! I came here to party!" And Obi-Wan (he's seen this before) just rolls his eyes. Obi-Wan: "Yoda, you crazy bastard! Get the hell out of here!" And then Chewbacca will come in and he'll be like "What's up dudes? I'm taking the Falcon out to cruise for female aliens. Anyone wanna come with me?" So they all hop in the Falcon and go to Mars. There they find a magical crystal or something, which accidentally releases a really big space creature. And so then the creature starts chasing after them and stuff. So they have to kill the creature and save the universe before the creature can mutate into an even bigger creature. It's going to be "the bomb", I'm telling you. Hollywood here I come!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
I live in Ballarat, about 90 mins from Melbourne and I have read this report. Gotta say though Warners must be having trouble with their script if they're seriously looking at a contribution from a nobody from the hick capital of Australia.
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Let's be honest, folks. If Burton and Peters are allowed to make a Superman film their way, it will bear no resemblance to the character we've known and loved for the past 61 years, and it will flop. Why? Because Superman is an icon! You cannot mess with him without destroying his integrity. Burton has no respect for teh character, and would only force him to conform to the cookie-cutter goth freak xerox that Burton loves to repeat endlessly. And Peters? I could go on for years griping about him. WB, do us all a favor and get Paul Dini to write the script. Get Donner, McTiernan, Campbell, Leder, or even Spielberg to direct. Make a Superman film that fans will like, not a piece of crap by hacks like Burton-Peters.
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Jun 07, 1999 5:38:46 PM CDT
How 'bout Superman as an old guy, a la Dark Night Returns?
by naturalselection
No more praise heaped upon Smith's Superman Lives script please. It puts the character in a lame situation where he has lost his identity for a hefty portion of the picture (see Judge Dredd also). Ended up being as lame and flawed as Chasing Amy. AND YEAH....what is it with the letter L in the Superman universe. Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, Lana Lang, Kal-el etc
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Isn't Chris Reeve making progress? What if he WAS able to walk again? I mean, someday. If he could walk, you could do the rest with stuntmen. Imagine- SUPERMAN LIVES STARRING CHRISTOPHER REEVE! Keep the name, lose the Smith script. The dialog was OK, but the action, or lack there-of, stunk. Have Supes die, just bring him back differently, and with NO TECHNOBABBLE. It would kinda represent Chris Reeves in a way. Rebirth, strength, you know. Lex could encase him in a prison of Kryptonite! There could be a touching scene where Lois watches him die in his green tomb, unable to do anything. He would be dying, they could try to speak to one another, but unable to hear each other. They could play "Can you read my Mind?" at a very slow tempo, entirely with strings. That's right, WILLIAMS IS BACK. Here's how to get Williams on PRONTO. Go up to him, and say, "Chris is doing well, but, we need YOU to make Superman fly again." John would run right to the piano! Anyway, then Lex would shoot Superman, still encased in Kryptonite, out into space! Then, a group of people manning a space station could crack him open, let him drift in space to absorb the full power of the sun! As each portion of his body twitched back to life, the music would play a few bars of the Superman theme. Kinda like "Dum... dum da dum dum.... Dum dum dum.... Dum.... dum da dum dum.... DUM DA DA!!!!!!" and the his arm moves, etc. Anyway, he comes back to life. Zooms down to Earth with a huge, cresendoing sonic boom. The music's like "Dum da dum da da... dum da dum da da dum da!" you know, the part where it builds up. Then, as Superman flies over the city, the music hits its full stride ("Dum da-da da dum! Dum da dum! Dum da da dum dum! DUM DA DUM!!!!") the citizens of Metropolis look up, see him and CHEER, and the he kicks some MAJOR BUTT!! He crashes into LEX'S EVIL LAIR. And Lois (held captive) says, with shock and affection "Oh my God!" and Lex says "Oh, shit". Butt kicking, kissing, the end. The PR alone would send this film through the roof. Think of it - "Superman actor crippled.... fights to regain strength... walks again, IS SUPERMAN AGAIN!" Dear Lord, who WOULDN'T go? And for pete's sake BRING BACK HACKMAN! I mean, really. The guy's looked the same age for the last 20 years, why NOT have him be Lex again? Spacey's OK, but when I think Lex, I think Hackman. Ok, Margarot Kidder can go, I'd put in Catherine Zeta Jones. Wow. Screw this Sandra Bullock crap, she's old news. Oh, and Chris Rock? DUMP HIM. He's got one note- ANNOYING. Get some dopey kid, anybody would do. Maybe even..... BRUCE!!! Campbell, of course. Hey, he did it in Hudsucker Proxy. Anyway, if they made SUPERMAN like this, it'd be huge. Just gigantic. And who knows. Maybe someday they'll be able too... GO CHRIS!
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Jun 07, 1999 7:20:49 PM CDT
I thought Sony was making this but I guess Warners has the right
by paragonian
The Smith script sucked almost as bad as Mallrats, but Clerks and Chasing Amy were great and Dogma's gonna be awesome.
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Contrary to others opinions, I don't think Tim Burton is a hack, but I don't think he should ever direct Superman either. Batman only worked because Burton's style fit the project, just like Schumacher's didn't.(IMHO) But then, I don't think Nic Cage would make a good Superman either. I haven't really liked him in a movie since Face/Off and I have a feeling Superman would be a mixture of his performances from City of Angels and Con Air, neither of which I enjoyed.
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What the hell movies are you watching. Burton is one of the greatest visionary's hollywood has ever seen. As for maintaining the character I think he could do it to a tee...imagine for a second the inverse of Edward Scissorhands, instead of one dark element in a light society we put one light element into a dark society. KEVIN SMITH'S SCRIPT SUCKED pure and simple, wether it was peters fault or not remains to be seen but the script was juvenile and lame. I want a story with some heart and grip to it. The problem is that nowadays writers treat superman too much as a perfect Icon, He's not supposed to be....Superman is a niave Kansas boy who only sees good in everybody, Superman stories begin to suck once he seems to know what he is doing, Superman is all powerful to make him all knowing on top of that takes away any shot of defeating him hence any risk to his actions. As much as I love everything he has written, I cannot believe the childish actions Kevin Smith has portrayed when it came to this fiasco, I lost all respect for him, and alot of my respect for Warner. God I am glad Tim has gone to Columbia for Sleepy Hollow.
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Guys I have plenty of experoence in subbmting material to studios while you can submit material to studios with out representation in SOME cases A high profile project like this would not accpet materials from an unknown unproven person....
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I must concur with those of you who didn't dig the SMITH SCRIPT! It wasn't bad, but to me
it didn't have enough pizzaz ...
it didn't seem EPIC enough! I
think you should make it a 3-parter! Besides, TRILOGIES are
IN these days when it comes to
big-budget fantasies! You need to be nostalgic when it comes to the SUPERMAN legend but you have to do it in a forward way or it gets REAL STALE!! What these people
should understand is YOU GOT LIKE
60+ YEARS OF COMICS TO GET YOUR MATERIAL FROM!!! Don't be so limited! IMMERSE YOURSELVES IN THE WORLD OF SUPERMAN! Here's something I just whipped up:
You could have SUPES kick off in the opening credits of the first flick. Have the JUSTICE LEAGUE featured in the movie just to PROVE they DO exist in the MOVIE-SUPERMAN's world. They can give SUPERMAN a first-class funeral and then be destroyed in a cold-and-calculating way by the same all-powerful foe who was behind BLUE BOY's dirt-nap ... I suppose BRAINIAC (although, maybe you
should call him by a more sophisticated name, at least in the beginning. BRAINIAC's a pretty
cheesy title for an extra-terrestrial life-form. Maybe
VRIL-DOX - like in some of the
comics.) Anyway, BRAINIAC makes
a deal with LEX LUTHOR, whose
corporate empire, LEX-CORP(as well as LEX's secret affiliation with the super-terrorist org. THE
LEGION OF DOOM) gives BRAINIAC access to all the computers on the planet. BRAINIAC creates a tidal-wave-like virus that swallows the entire planet with
circuitry ... making it his own
realm in which to rule. He makes LEX his lackey, but LEX has plans of his own, of course. He just plays along with BRAINY until the
time is right. Years pass, and the only place on Earth that hasn't been contaminated by the BRAINIAC VIRUS is SUPERMAN's
FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, because it's
advanced technology is too sophisticated to be detected. It turns out that all the robots there have been working overtime since SUPEY's death 20 years ago
to zap him back to life. They
manage to retrieve his body from the SUN, where the JLA launched it, and convert the solar energy that's been stored there into life-giving energy. It brings him back ... but he has no powers! I'd say get a young,thin dark-haired, blue-eyed UNKNOWN actor and train him as the trilogy moves
along. (Without his powers would
he really be that muscular?!!?)
He's all bummed out, of course, because the world's turned to shit, and worse yet ... no LOIS!
He tries the whole freedom-fighter
thing for a while against BRAINIAC's cyber-forces but realizes that he has to go back and set things right before all this bad stuff happened. After a heart-to-heart talk with LOIS as CLARK KENT in the FORTRESS's holo-
chamber, SUPES gets determined!
Powers or no powers, he's fixing things! Now, dramatically donning
his SUPERMAN costume (he was wearing the BLACK GARB when they re-animated him!) SUPES has his robots remodify his KRYPTONIAN
STARSHIP into a warp-drive vehicle
fit for time-travel through the only available doorway ... THE PHANTOM ZONE!!! Just as SUPERMAN's ready to leave on his odyssey through time and space,
the FORTRESS is ambushed by BRAINIAC. SUPERMAN escapes in his star-ship through the ZONE, but BRAINIAC sends his CYBORG assassin (partially-formed from
SUPERMAN's DNA) along for the ride. The confrontation between
SUPERMAN and his CYBORG opponent
forces the STAR-SHIP to warp out
of the ZONE too early and SUPES
ends up lost between time and space without his powers!!! You could make the rest of this movie
like HOMER's "THE ODYSSEY." SUPES gets tossed around one planet to the next with the CYBORG in hot pursuit the entire time. In a funny scene, he could
end up on BIZZARO-WORLD. Then, in an action-packed scene, he could end up on MONGUL's WARWORLD in some cool space-gladiator battle.
The first film would end with SUPERMAN back to full power and
destroying the CYBORG! But there's work to be done. He's still lost and he has to get back to save the EARTH ... and LOIS, from BRAINIAC all over again.
The second film will be DARK as SUPERMAN encounters the same nightmarish creature that killed him in the first place ... DOOMSDAY!!! It also touches on
the whole parallel universe motif that a comic-book flick hasn't touched on yet. SUPERMAN actually meets different versions of himself. (NOTE: ALL YOU CG-FREAKS OUT THERE, PICTURE THIS ...
all of the ACTORS who appeared as
SUPERMAN could make a cameo in this scene!) SUPERMAN meets his ancient embittered older self who's turned his back on those he once swore to protect and now roams through space like a Flying Dutchman. To make a long story short, this OLD SUPES is the most
POWERFUL one yet! HE's the guy who finally punches DOOMSDAY's ticket in. He sacrifices himself to save OUR YOUNG SUPES by flying HIMSELF AND DOOMSDAY into the END of TIME. MR. MYXZTPLYK (however ya spell his name!) also figures
prominently into this, as well as that warrior space-babe from a couple o'comics ago, MAXIMA!
OK, OK, almost done. FILM #3! Naturally, SUPERMAN makes it back just in the nick of time to
save LOIS, the JUSTICE LEAGUE, METROPOLIS, and the whole rest of the freakin' planet from BRAINIAC and LUTHOR. Y'SEE ... it's one big honkin' circle. I haven't figured out a good climax yet. I think working LUTHOR's planned double-cross of BRAINIAC somewhere into it would be a cool twist. Or for all you liberal folks out there, maybe have SUPERMAN die all over again in some CHRIST-LIKE fashion to save everyone, but then Lois gives birth to a superpowered tyke at the very end, who's given over to the JUSTICE LEAGUE (namely, Wonder Woman and The Batman) for training. Maybe that could even be foreshadowed in the second movie when SUPERMAN meets all his doubles.
Y'see all the possibilities that these Hollywood eggheads, who never picked up a comic in their life, are missing!?! Sure, these would be expensive as hell, but if you maybe only hire like one big-name actor and put the rest of the budget into the movie, it could work!!!!!
SO SPEAKETH SPITCURLBOY ...
PS
Please don't steal these ideas if if they're GOOD, please don't laugh at them if they're NOT!
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