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Sci-Fiers FRINGE, 11TH HOUR & LIFE ON MARS Likely Top-Rated New Shows?? Low Expectations For The New KNIGHT RIDER??

Published at: July 8, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules
Will science fiction rule this fall? Fox’s “Fringe,” CBS’ “11th Hour” and ABC’s “Life On Mars” -- sci-fi freshman all -- are likeliest to be the coming season’s top-rated new shows, according to Horizon Media, an entity that handicaps such things for ad buyers. The firm has “low expectations” for NBC’s “Knight Rider,” however, according to The Hollywood Reporter. This despite the huge ratings the "Rider" TV-movie pilot scored earlier this year. Horizon predicts “90210” as The CW’s top-rated new show. UPDATE: James Hibberd, who wrote the Reporter piece, indicates that Horizon's track record is imperfect:
Now-canceled shows such as Fox’s “K-Ville,” “New Amsterdam” and “Back to You” and CBS’ “Cane” and “Viva Laughlin” and NBC's "Life" and "Journeyman" were predicted to lose their time periods in the demo against major competitors. Yet ABC’s returning “Pushing Daisies” and “Private Practice” were expected to win their slots. Slips: CBS’ “Moonlight” was thought to become CBS’ highest-rated show on Fridays, Fox’s renewed “Kitchen Nightmares” was foretold to perform at CW-like levels and ABC's "Carpoolers" was expected to shine. Keep in mind, such early forecasts cannot take into account how a show evolves after its pilot episode.

Last season’s new shows, ranked by Nielsen's 18-49 demo ratings: The Moment of Truth (Fox; ranked 7 among all shows) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox; 19) Bionic Woman (NBC; 26) Samantha Who? (ABC; 27) Private Practice (ABC; 27) Oprah's Big Give (ABC; 31) American Gladiators (NBC; 34) Chuck (NBC; 39) Pushing Daisies (ABC; 45) Here Come The Newlyweds (ABC; 45) The Big Bang Theory (CBS; 49) Big Shots (ABC; 54) Life (NBC; 59) Dirty Sexy Money (ABC; 62) Don’t Forget the Lyrics Thursday (Fox; 62) Kitchen Nightmares (Fox; 64) Lipstick Jungle (NBC; 64) New Amsterdam (Fox; 64) Eli Stone (ABC; 69) Journeyman (NBC; 69) Dance War (ABC; 72) Cavemen (ABC; 83) Kid Nation (CBS; 83) Back To You (Fox; 87) Cane (CBS; 87) Phenomenon (NBC; 87) Cashmere Mafia (ABC; 87) Unhitched (Fox; 96) Welcome To The Captain (CBS; 98) Moonlight (CBS; 102) The Singing Bee (NBC; 102) Dexter (CBS; 106) K-Ville (Fox; 106) My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad (NBC; 106) Carpoolers (ABC; 115) Women’s Murder Club (ABC; 115) Don’t Forget The Lyrics Friday (Fox; 123) Secret Talents of the Stars (CBS; 127) Amnesia (NBC; 131) Canterbury’s Law (Fox; 131) Just For Laughs (ABC; 131) Power of 10 (CBS; 131) Next Great American Band (Fox; 139) Monk (NBC; 142) Reaper (CW; 142) Gossip Girl (CW; 142) Return of Jezebel James (Fox; 142) Viva Laughlin (CBS; 142) Psych (NBC; 149) Duel (ABC; 149) Farmer Wants A Wife (CW; 151) Nashville (Fox; 152) Crowned (CW; 157) Aliens In America (CS; 158) Life Is Wild (CW; 159) Online Nation (CW; 160) CW Now (CW; 160) Last season’s new shows, ranked by Nielsen's total viewer ratings: Moment of Truth (Fox; ranked 13 among all shows) Samantha Who? (ABC; 25) Oprah's Big Give (ABC; 30) Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox; 34) Private Practice (ABC; 34) Dance War (ABC; 42) Bionic Woman (NBC; 43) Pushing Daisies (ABC; 49) Cane (CBS; 55) American Gladiators (NBC; 55) New Amsterdam (Fox; 55) Women’s Murder Club (ABC; 58) Chuck (NBC; 59) The Big Bang Theory (CBS; 63) Don’t Forget the Lyrics Thursday (Fox; 64) Dirty Sexy Money (ABC; 69) Life (NBC; 69) Here Come The Newlyweds (ABC; 69) Eli Stone (ABC; 69) Kid Nation (CBS; 78) Big Shots (ABC; 80) Moonlight (CBS; 81) Journeyman (NBC; 84) Dexter (CBS; 87) Lipstick Jungle (NBC; 87) Back To You (Fox; 92) Phenomenon (NBC; 92) Cavemen (ABC; 95) Viva Laughlin (CBS; 98) The Singing Bee (NBC; 98) Welcome To The Captain (CBS; 102) Kitchen Nightmares (Fox; 107) My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad (NBC; 107) Canterbury’s Law (Fox; 107) Cashmere Mafia (ABC; 116) K-Ville (Fox; 118) Monk (NBC; 122) Power of 10 (CBS; 123) Carpoolers (ABC; 123) Amnesia (NBC; 129) Just For Laughs (ABC; 131) Don’t Forget The Lyrics Friday (Fox; 132) Unhitched (Fox; 133) Secret Talents of the Stars (CBS; 133) Psych (NBC; 139) Duel (ABC; 140) Return of Jezebel James (Fox; 143) Next Great American Band (Fox; 146) Reaper (CW; 148) Nashville (Fox; 149) Gossip Girl (CW; 150) Farmer Wants A Wife (CW; 153) Aliens In America (CS; 155) Crowned (CW; 155) Life Is Wild (CW; 159) Online Nation (CW; 160) CW Now (CW; 160) Interesting, no, how NBC’s top-rated new show “Bionic Woman” got the boot after only eight episodes? Read all of The Reporter’s story on next year’s rankings here.

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  • July 8, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST

    still missing Journeyman

    by Regenhund

    *sigh* and first to say so here.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    some NBC brass musta hated Bionic Woman

    by lynxpro

    Bummer...guess they were pissed off that Michelle Ryan wouldn't shag them.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Bionic started huge ...

    by Hercules

    ... but bled viewers as it went along. They kept replacing showrunners, and then there was a strike ...

  • July 8, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Pigphart5000

    by ShogunMaster

    I'm willing to supply the pig that will fuck you. Just send me your location and I'll have him sent there ASAP. <p> Thanks and all the best...

  • July 8, 2008, 1 a.m. CST

    Sorry..

    by ShogunMaster

    It seems an active movement to remove his comments is afoot. Thanks Herc!

  • July 8, 2008, 1 a.m. CST

    This despite the huge ratings its TV-movie pilot?

    by mistergreen

    The Knight Rider movie did good? Seriously? That was a piece of crap if I ever did see one. So good Ratings has nothing to do with how good a show is... So stop canceling good shows with poor ratings!

  • July 8, 2008, 1:26 a.m. CST

    What is 11th hour about??

    by Mezzanine

    I haven't heard a fucking word about that show. And yes, I am too lazy to look it up.

  • July 8, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    I miss Journeyman too.

    by Mezzanine

  • July 8, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    I miss Journeyman too.

    by Mezzanine

  • July 8, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Fammit!

    by Mezzanine

    My computer loves my opinion so much, it double posted!!

  • July 8, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    The US Life on Mars is going to blow...

    by AnnoyYou

    ...simply by virtue of the fact that there is no substitute for the great John Simm. The US version of "State of Play" will also blow for the same reason (well, that and a crummy American adaptation).

  • July 8, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    90210??

    by bacci40

    buzz on the show is that it blows..and life on mars could be great...but they will pc it to death

  • July 8, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    When is FOX going to start running promos for "Dollhouse"?

    by Rinse

    It runs promos for "Fringe" every friggin' night. It's a nice promo, but geez, we get it already!! :P

  • July 8, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Dollhouse is midseason.

    by Hercules

    Fringe is autumn.

  • July 8, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Mezzanine since you asked so politely

    by Xiphos_2

    Eleventh hour, if I remember corectly, is about a goverment scientist trying to correct evil goverment experiments gone wrong with a hot side kick.<p>I'm guessing its like a stand alone nonalien episode of the X-Files. Freaks and muties and such things every week.

  • July 8, 2008, 4:20 a.m. CST

    dont worry herc, they all star WHITE PEOPLE

    by BlackJackBauer

    you should be okay, no african american stars here, fat man.

  • July 8, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Saw Fringe, enjoyed it.

    by Kubla_Khan

    Lots of potential, good character dynamics, and if you ever wanted to see Dr Zarkov in his own series, then you've got your wish. And the lead girl is way pretty. When can I see more, hmmm? Also, I was watching Buffy the other night, and I was thinking: SMG, honey, that career ain't looking no better - surely now is the time for a Buffy movie????

  • July 8, 2008, 5:35 a.m. CST

    They did have a substitute lined up for John Simm ...

    by Shan

    ... It was John Simm. <p> (Sensibly he turned them down).

  • July 8, 2008, 6 a.m. CST

    Fringe...the bastard child of Scully and Mulder

    by Shub-Wankalot

    Read that on the back of a cereal box. Go figure.

  • July 8, 2008, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Whores!

    by redfist

    Just had to be said.

  • July 8, 2008, 6:12 a.m. CST

    rip journeyman

    by Mr_X

    and fuck you nbc!

  • July 8, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    I'll be waiting until these shows reach Season 2...

    by KillDozer

    before investing anytime. I'm sick of getting into a new show and having it suddenly canceled. I tried watching shows from the start and that didn't save them, so maybe this will (somehow)<p>Also, there's no way I'm watching a show that was partially created by the "writers" of Transformers. That movie was like a gigantic billboard screaming "Stay away from our future projects!".

  • July 8, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    I will definetly be tuning into Fringe

    by MRJONZ72

    The promos has really got my interest very high, I personally havent seen much if at on Life of Mars or 11th Hour so I'm not that interested yet.. I guess Ill have to go look them up to get more info on them.

  • July 8, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Maybe Somebody's Brought this Up Before

    by Aquatarkusman

    Life on Mars was also the name of an unaired pilot about coffeehouse slackers (before Friends ever aired) with involvement from a lot of people that went on to do Mr. Show.

  • July 8, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Watched Fringe myself....

    by fishpillow

    and it blew dogs in the moonlight. Kubla_Khan must have seen a different show than me as his opinion is the exact opposite of mine. It took me 3 days to watch it as I kept fallig asleep. Wooden acting with NO chemistry between the leads. Horried "Special" effects, "twists" a blind deaf mute could see coming, and hey! since it's JJ Abrams there a "mystery" just for the sake of being one. Lance Reddick is wasted here. They make hime a hard SOB (like Sloan), and I'm sure they will try to eventually make him "good" (like Sloan). Even tho it sucks ass, I'm sure it will be a hit, so wake me when it's over. Yawn!

  • July 8, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Fringe might be good

    by V'Shael

    But after Alias and Lost... do we really want to wait 5 years for answers that will never come? <p> Anyone going to bend over and be JJ's butt boy for another 5 year stretch? <p> Not me.

  • July 8, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by fishpillow

    I couldn't agree more. And from the Pilot you can all ready see it coming.

  • July 8, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Shocking News: Knight Rider will suck!

    by Darth_Nader

    Film at 11. Yawn. I can't wait to see how NBC tried to cram this steaming pile down our throats. KITT and whoever the driver is are going to be cross promoting everything. I'm predicting Deal or No Deal will give away a 'KITT' by September.

  • July 8, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Life on Mars pilot sucked

    by Frontman242

    the unfinished pilot that leak on the net, sucked I really thought this show was going to be good...Love time travel I thought the new show Leverage was really good...

  • July 8, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    No, see...

    by Christopher3

    In "Fringe," the no-nonsense FBI woman has blonde hair, rather than red hair, and the know-it-all kook is a schizo old dude with an estranged son, rather than a cynical young dude with a missing sister, and the gruff but grudgingly respectful boss is a bald black guy, not a bald white guy, and there's a sinister one-armed woman lurking around, not a sinister one-armed man lurking around.

  • July 8, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Why is Herc's racial preference all of a sudden in question?

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Did I miss something during the morning role call?

  • July 8, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    SkidMarkedUndies, read the Heroes TB...

    by ComputerGuy68

    Your answer is there.

  • July 8, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    KNIGHT RIDER starring FAT GUY STUCK IN INTERNET

    by Squashua

    Bionic Woman and Journeyman were good stuff. I enjoyed both. Knight Rider was a terrible made for TV movie.

  • July 8, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Fringe - This Year's "Threshold"

    by Squashua

    Here's hoping they avoid blatant midget abuse. Anyone ever notice how Data looks like a much older Logan Echolls?

  • July 8, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    @ComputerGuy: Oh now I see.

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Wow, I never thought Herc was a racist. I'm kinda down over that one. He just seemed so jovial. Never saw him as a biggot... until now. I shed a tear for lost innocence. I shed a tear for Herc.

  • July 8, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    KillDozer, you're going to miss some good shows

    by jim

    Sadly the shows that get cancelled after only a handful of episodes (that aren't called Bionic Woman) rarely get released on DVD. So your only chance to see them is when they air. 1 (half) season of Journeyman is better than none. 6 episodes (or was it 8) of Raines is better than 0. <p>But I get where you are coming from. It can be frustrating to find a new favourite show only to tune in the next week and find yourself watching a rerun of L&O. Or see some crappy wedding prank show. Or be subjected to a news magazine program breaking the "news" of Paula Abdul sleeping with an AI contestant.<p>Thanks to my DVR I record the first few episodes of every new show that I think I might want to watch, excluding only those whose very existence offends me (ex. Moment of Truth). I watch the first few episodes and if I like it I keep watching. Those that don't click with me I drop. I would not have discovered Journeyman without this system. The promos did nothing for me but I recorded it anyway. I had 4 episodes recorded before I took the time to watch the first. Watched 3 episodes that day, the fourth the next, and watched episode 5 as it aired, and I almost never watch live tv anymore.

  • July 8, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    LoM

    by Savage Lucy

    I've seen the UK and US versions of the LoM trailer and neither one was that great. Both were pretty entertaining, but nothing spectacular. Much better than the US Office pilot, but that isn't hard to accomplish.

  • July 8, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Journeyman was amazing

    by zacdilone

    I haven't grieved over a TV show like that in a long time.

  • July 8, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Kid Nation question Herc....

    by Atomica

    Kid Nation was awesome; My wife and i really enjoyed it and I thought it was the best reality show concept since Survivor. I know they had some legal heat with waivers and such because technically the kids were working by doing challenges, but Herc have you heard anything about a renewal for a second season? The viewership seems like it was fairly high. I saw casting notices for season 2 awhile ago but have heard nothing since. It'd be a shame for such an amazing show to not be allowed to continue.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Life on Mars

    by aversiontherapy2

    From the pilot the producers/writers just had no clue about what made the original so successful. This will bomb if they can't change that.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Unless they do a complete reshoot...

    by Kelvington

    of the US version of Life On Mars, it's not going to last three shows. I could barely get through it.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Bionic Woman

    by fiester

    It did start good...but then, yeah, confusion set in on show direction and then came the strike. It also suffered from some poor casting decisions. The lead was just not compelling enough. The villain, Starbuck, was so compelling she blew the lead off the screen whenever she appeared.

  • July 8, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    No Burn Notice????

    by tagkc

    Epic fail of a list

  • July 8, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Bionic Woman & Journeyman

    by The Ref

    Bionic Woman was dog trash. Journeyman was tits.

  • July 8, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Carpoolers

    by Dasinfogod

    13 episodes of pure gold; I'm glad I ported this one over to DVD for posterity 'cause Disney ain't likely to ever let it see the light of day again. <p> "Dasher is a STUPID name; my name is Marmaduke!"

  • July 8, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Watched Fringe

    by lfhlaw

    I saw the fringe and it was interesting though about half way through i expected FBI agents Mulder and Scully to show up. In fact, they would fit right in...in a Cameo appearance if they did it and the actors would do it. But overall, as far as creepy factor it misses a lot of the X-files background. The characters are very shallow, but perhaps with time, they'll develop. They've already set up stuff for background story.We'll see where it goes and how long they get to play considering Fox likes to pull the plug early on series.....

  • July 8, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Bionic Woman was a mess

    by TVguy4566

    Anyone remember how they set up the main villian in the pilot and he was never heard from again. It would have been like having Darth Vader in that first 20 minutes in Star Wars and never show him again. <br><br> I never got that. They set up this big theme of this evil organization that is led by the designer of bionics technology and then abruptly switch to small scale capsulated episodes. It was almost like they were setting up major story arches and then were told that it would not allow new viewers to jump in, but all it did was lose then entire audience.

  • July 8, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    And Knight Rider will be an abomination

    by TVguy4566

    The only way this show will survive will be to make some minor changes like everything. Someone should tell show runners that just because the lead has a threesome or is a lesbian, it doesn't actually count as character development. Even geeks aren't going to fooled that a crap script is good with a little girl-on-girl or guy-on-girl-on-girl action.

  • July 8, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Are those averages or peaks?

    by supertoyslast

    Because if those figures are averages, then NBC musta been pretty damn stupid to cancel Bionic Woman. But it should be noted that the new top brass at NBC are trying to take the network in a different direction these coming seasons by announcing schedules more than a year in advance. We'll see how long that strategy lasts in an industry where reacting quickly to the tastes of the public is all-important.

  • July 8, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah Life wasn't canceled.....

    by Cash907

    It was just sent to Friday night programming hell, where it will most likely be canceled. Maybe someone should tell whomever wrote this article.

  • July 8, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Did someone up there just use the term "epic fail"?

    by slone13

    Moron

  • July 8, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    The original Knight Rider...

    by bRoc

    ...was a steaming pile. The only defense of the show is, "but it was on TV when I was a kid. Remember?" Sorry, but the fact that you remember a TV show from your childhood does not make it good--chances are the only thing you truly liked about the show was the theme song. I defy anyone to make it through an entire episode of The Dukes of Hazzard, The A-Team or Knight Rider. Guess what? They suck.

  • July 8, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Unless they changed the lead, the U.S. LIFE ON MARS is toast

    by SpyGuy

    I have sock lint more interesting than that piece of wood.

  • July 8, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    I hope Horizon media offers refunds

    by elab49

    Life on Mars? Did they watch the pilot?

  • July 8, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    New Amsterdam is cancelled??? What the hell!

    by Philvis

    I might just quit watching network tv. Everything I pick is canned, so either I have really bad taste or the damn Neilson viewers do. First there was Journeyman which I really dug and now New Amsterdam has been axed? I thought that show was great. I was enthralled as much as I was for Journeyman. I think I am better off just not watching tv anymore.

  • July 8, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    I also thought CARPOOLERS was pure gold.

    by SnapT

    I hope we get a feature film of THAT show.

  • July 8, 2008, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Fringe is the shit!

    by goingsomewhere8

    The pilot episode is available online. It was what I need out of a super natural show. Believable science mixed with super natural fucked up shit. Added bonus: a strong dose of my favorite drugs, LSD and Special K :)

  • July 8, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Finge IS shit!!

    by TheHichhiker

    I am sorry, but its a day late and a dollar short. Seems like a mediocre copy of a dozen good shows - trying to cram it all, badly, into one show - not an original thought or idea in whole pilot. And don't get me started on those really cheesy 3-d titles. Looks like a 12 year old with ancient copy of WordArt was let loose on it. Though I am holding out hope that those are placeholder graphics until they get real special effects in.

  • July 9, 2008, 1:38 a.m. CST

    NBC would get higher ratings if

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    they stopped broadcasting so many shows in widescreen.

  • July 9, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    wtf?

    by wyvern

    what do you mean throwme?Showing them in widescreen and hd?

  • July 9, 2008, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Is Rob Thomas still involved with 90210?

    by lord_zedd

    Or did the CW stop returning his calls because they got scared he would (try to) make an intelligent show out of it?

  • July 9, 2008, 6:42 a.m. CST

    so we ALL have low expectations for Knight Rider then

    by the power of GREYSKULL

    including the networks - so why bother? Because they already built the car? They already cashed Ford's cheques maybe? <p> <p> The British Life on Mars was pretty cool - although I found the resolution a little disappointing, in the end. <p> Verhoven gave Total Recall (a film about life on Mars, coincidentally!) an excellent little PhilDickian twist at the end with "what if it really IS just all in your head??" - it's the kind of question that can potentially wreck your ending, no matter which way you answer it - and it takes BALLS to leave it unanswered. <p> If the American Life on Mars has writers who understand this delicate balance, then it could still work - unfortunately, it sounds like the writers don't understand DICK (pardon the pun)

  • July 9, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST

    I can't think of anything that worked in KR

    by The McPoyle Clan

    Going by the movie, there's not even the slightest glimmer of hope that the series is going to be anything but a POS. KR and 90210 will join Bionic Woman on the scrap heap.<br><br>You know what else is disturbing? Even though the new season of 24 is set in D.C., we won't be rid of Morris!? Aaaghh!

  • July 9, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed Journeyman when it was called Quantum Leap

    by Faust_8

    and Voyagers before that

  • July 9, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Faust_8, don't forget Time Tunnel

    by jim

    and 7 Days, and Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, and Peabody's Improbable History.<p>That's like saying "I liked NYPD Blue when it was called Hill Street Blues". Sure they have a common theme but are very different shows.

  • July 9, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    It was a pretty crappy season all round...

    by Paul T. Ryan

    ...But the writers strike really screwed the momentum of most of the new shows. If the strike hadn't happened, who knows if some of the cancelled shows might have been saved and vice versa. At least Boston Legal didn't get canned. I also thought Heroes' second season was very underrated.

  • July 10, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I think if it wasn't for the strike

    by jim

    NBC probably would not have aired the last few episodes of Journeyman. But I think even as early as a month in they were feeling the pinch.

  • July 10, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Crossing my fingers

    by Spank

    That that Journeyman dvd set hits soon. I need a quality gift to give my friends @ Xmas. Just like my Firefly set it'll get loaned out to all my buddys who were stupid enough to avoid the series when it was on, just like the idiots above who compare it to Quantum Leap- THAT show was actally a pale, PALE forerunner to Journeyman. Now let's see someone "Americanize" Dr. Who! I still say Anthony Geary and a porta potty for the Tardis.

  • July 10, 2008, 7:32 p.m. CST

    The Tardis will be product placement

    by jim

    so it will need to be something they can sell. I think it will be a fridge. That way they can also make an Indiana Jones reference, maybe even do an Indy-themed episode to help promote Indy 5 ("Mutt and The House of Hula-Hoops").

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