July 4, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST
I so can't wait for this series finale!
July 4, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST
by Johnny Smith
Anyone else getting a sort of Y: The Last Man feeling right now?
July 4, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST
the mainstay of more futuristic movies and series than I can count.
July 4, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST
July 4, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST
by Leto III
...But seriously, I'm curious to see how this scene fits into the latter, post-Earth fourth season. Another near-death induced flashback for Laura?
July 4, 2008, 2 p.m. CST
Doesn't Roslin die? Or can it be "all has happened before and will again" play itself out?
July 4, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST
I don't know how this is gonna play out or if I'm gonna like it but it's a frakkin' great ride! Bring on the final season...
July 4, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
This show is so retarded. It skimps on wardrobe, having guys walking around with suits and ties and briefcases on spaceships, but it goes all out for baby carriage? Really stupid looking baby carriages at that? The damn things look like bigwheels that I had as a kid.
July 4, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST
They featured in the original miniseries. Caprica Six bent down and snapped the neck of a baby lying in one of these prams, so my guess is that this is a flashback.
July 4, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST
"toaster baby carriages" these jogger baby carriages were in the shots of Six on the waterfront in the Miniseries, were she breaks the babys neck and meets up with someone
July 4, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST
Too much oil?
July 4, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
A cylon broke a baby's neck in the miniseries?
July 4, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST
maybe at the end of the series they go through some kind of time bubble back to the day of the attack on caprica and just keep reapeating it over and over. this fits with the whole "it has happened before and will happen again" thing. i would be pissed if that happened, though.
July 4, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST
It's either a flashback, a projection, Roslin's near death experience or the next cycle. Think that pretty much covers every option.
July 4, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST
...yep, you even got the hear the kid's mom wail in despair. <p> To be fair, season one was pretty edgy and suspenseful.
July 4, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST
Flashback obviously, ffsake
July 4, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST
July 4, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST
i'd probably snap a babies neck for some Roslin action.
July 4, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST
...oh no, hopefully they won't introduce a character that turns out to be the kid's mom.
July 4, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST
Where has all the news gone, guys? ...And yeah, I realize it's the fourth of July. I don't expect to see anything new here on a holiday weekend. But granted that, the lack of news posted on this site -- much less original scoops -- is sad compared to the peak of AiCN, circa the Y2K.
July 4, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST
What if Cally was the other "Final Five" Cylon? Wasn't she on anti-depressants and other meds leading up to her death? Maybe that blocked the signal that set off the other Four. That would make Tyrol and Cally's child pretty special, being the offspring of two Final Fivers.
July 4, 2008, 4 p.m. CST
Now that's an impressive set of rock and balls
July 4, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
...In an episode during its first season -- the 10th episode, I believe. (God, I don't know how I remember this; I'm not really a fan of that show.) The scene was Deep Throat overturning the decision of an FBI bureaucrat to shut down the X-Files unit.
July 4, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST
by Leto III
...if'n I remember correctly.
July 4, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST
Didn't RDM say that we would see the originals again after Razor, before the series ended?
July 4, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST
in season 5 as the setting for Tollana. Yes, I know my Stargate. Huzzah.
July 4, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST
Why did the phrase "in season 5" come out twice when I only typed it once? WTF?
July 4, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST
Ok gang, I found a good book for us to read: Stone Gods by Jeanette Winterson. You'll find some real similarities to the show.<p> Oh, and robot lesbians (It *is* a Jeanette Winterson novel), so there's really something for everyone.
July 4, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST
I doubt this will be a time loop. We're gonna see the scene exactly as it was in the miniseries except they'll pan off to the side or something and we'll see a character who was there all along and it'll be a total mindfuck. Maybe the final Cylon, whoever that may be, was there. PLEASE don't let it be time travel!!!
July 4, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST
We never found out who Six met that day in the park after she left Baltar, correct? Maybe that's the purpose the flashback serves...it's Rosalyn remembering finally who she was meeting.
July 4, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST
is very cool but was used every where. plus isn't BSG overdoing the whole being relevant and serious thing.
July 4, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST
either Roslin's idea of heaven includes weird baby carriages and giant balls or....The Cylons and Humans learned to live together, love one another and have cross-multiplied and bred with each other in order to create a new race of human looking computers....
July 4, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST
...humans and Cylons ultimately return to Caprica and live happily ever after? Of course, that would have to follow the Cylon Civil war where humans are drawn in, take sides and most die.
July 4, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST
But Caprica Six is giving me blue balls. YOWZA!
July 4, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST
there will be another in a series of pre-attack flashbacks for Roslyn
July 4, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST
July 5, 2008, 12:12 a.m. CST
It could very well be a flashback which sheds light on what REALLY went down at the beginning.
July 5, 2008, 12:13 a.m. CST
... I want some fucking resolution in this finale. I don't want the show to end with the whole fucking thing happening all over again. Life is hard enough already, Ron Moore. Throw us a frickin' bone and end the show with some damn hope!
July 5, 2008, 4:54 a.m. CST
this is gonna tie into the original series. Also the tidbit someone mentioned above about RDM saying we will see the old toasters once again adds some fuel to the fire.
July 5, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Don't you be talking smack about those baby carriages!
July 5, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST
before they reached earth? The priestes who danced with a mine grenade on Cobolt said so, so did Pythia.
July 5, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...regarding the finale. Upon reading the scripts, she/they were so moved that it made her/them revisit the mini-series in order to appreciate just what an amazing job RDM & Co. had done in bring the show to its end.<P>Seeing these images, I wonder if there is something in the mini-series that's going to come full circle for us...
July 5, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
I don't know what it is but lately, I can't seem to type.
July 5, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST
by Sans Souci
I agree with Alientoast. I think we're finally going to find out who Six met up with after she and Baltar parted company. Could be someone Roslin only recognizes years after the fact? A bit far-fetched, but this is BSG after all. <p> More likely, but rather nasty, perhaps Roslin is the person Six met with. If not a Cylon, some kind of collaborator/sleeper agent? Her later religious visions could be Cylon programming meant to guide her on a path of their choosing so they could have time to find the Final Five and learn how to successfully breed without having to mating with humans.
July 5, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST
A boy can dream...
July 5, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST
It just said a "new" or "promised" land
July 5, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST
The new series will not tie into the origianl series...the original series has not recieved the slightest acknowledgement from the new series...give it up, guys.
July 5, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST
Come on AICN! Some of us are huge fans of this show and we don't want spoilers! Unfortunately, all I had to do was look at the main AICN page and BAM, there's a spoiler regarding what could be a major piece of the series finale. Please take a little more care to warn us of spoilers. Thank you.
July 5, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST
baby carriages constitute a spoiler? what part of the TB title on the main AICN page is spoilage? even the pics in the thread reveal nothing significant (unless you consider futuristic and strange baby carriages crucial information)
July 5, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST
Mary McDonnel wakes up in a teepee next to Kevin Costner, and says "Oy! I need to lay off the peyote!"
July 6, 2008, midnight CST
This isn't the first time AICN has posted a spoiler in the HEADLINE of an article, but this one is pretty fucking major. Having a little "spoiler!" logo next to the spoiler in question hardly does anyone any good now, does it? I've avoided reading this article because I don't want to know any more about the SERIES FUCKING FINALE of Battlestar Galactica than I already do thanks to your brilliant ass, but I think this one's given me ample reason to boycott AICN altogether, at least until I'm not in the middle of any series that I don't want spoiled for me by some genius posting details on the site's MAIN PAGE. Christ, first you dumb fucks blow a major plot element for Doctor Who on AICN's homepage, and now this. Fuck you, AICN. I'm done. Adios.
July 6, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST
A picture of some baby carriage baby and Mary being made up. <p> What a scoop! Really Herc, I mean it sincerely. <p> No really it's so cool.
July 6, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST
Brian De Palma to direct an episode; he could have one of the carriages roll towards and airlock in slo mo, a la "The Untouchables". Yeah, yeah, it was an homage (or stolen from) Eisenstein.
July 6, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST
... the headline DID constitute a spoiler. If you're going to post set photos, then say you're posting set photos and let people decide if they want to click to view the photos. ESPECIALLY when the photos are from a series FINALE. I would equate a series finale to the final moments of a feature film. Let's just roll the clock back to around 1941 and make the headline: "Childhood Sled Named Rosebud: Photography from the Set of Citizen Kane". Okay, maybe that's reaching. But still... It's not like they're posting photos from the series finale of Desperate Housewives. For a site that's heavy on science fiction, super-heroes, and such, I'd expect a little more consideration on the home page. Bury the spoilers behind a link or two.
July 6, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST
for the people who didn't get that this article might contain spoilers. I 'aint the sharpest tool in the shed and I knew what to expect. And for the people whose only taste resides in their mouths, too bad you missed out on all the greatness that is BSG. I hope they fill the rest of the season with sex, twists, space battles, revelations, and sex.
July 6, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST
It's not that the article contains spoilers; hell, that's 75% of what's posted on this site. The problem is that the HEADLINE for this article contains a spoiler. You see the problem? Why not have a "SO-AND-SO IS THE FINAL CYLON!(SPOILER!)" headline? Telling the readers that WHAT THEY JUST READ is a spoiler does not constitute a spoiler warning -- it's just being a dick to your readership.
July 6, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST
I said it before - Caprica Six is gonna have to get past her infant-neck-breaking habit if she's gonna have any shot at being a mother...
July 7, 2008, 1:22 a.m. CST
I can see it your way. But honestly, there is Tyrol and Callie's baby, Boomer and Helo's baby, and Six pregnant by Col. Tigh. So the prospect of baby carriages making an appearance in an upcoming episode of BSG, let alone the finale, shouldn't come as a shock.
July 7, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST
Shock, no. Spoiler, yes. It doesn't belong on AICN's main page. <br><br>Like myself, there are many, many people who both read this site AND don't want to know any spoilers about their favorite shows. This site has blown it for me in a boneheaded fashion more than once, now. That's enough for me, so I'm not going to visit this site anymore after this thread comes to an end. <br><br>The last time AICN ran a big spoiler in a headline, there were multiple cries of "change the fucking headline, you idiots!" in the talkback. The headline was never changed, despite the fact that it kept on spoilin'. Looks like nobody's going to bother changing this one, either. <br><br>Thanks a lot, assholes.
July 7, 2008, 5:30 a.m. CST
First, I'm going to indulge in a quick thread hijack. Just saw Transformers on dvd, that movie is horrible. About the baby carriages, on the commentary for the mini series, they said they actually hated the design of the carriages and wish they hadn't used them. It's funny that they're now forced to reuse them.
July 7, 2008, 6:42 a.m. CST
With me sitting on faces on 2 each #6, one licking my brown eye and the other suck me balls. A boy can dream.
July 7, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dude...there is NO WAY you can possible be this worked up about this. Are you frakkin' serious?!?!
July 7, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST
damnit, I'm sure gonna miss Tricia Helfer. I guess Playboy will have to do
July 8, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST
I'm totally fascinated by chumpmonkey's anger. I keep trying to figure out how the mention of a baby carriage would spoil anything. I don't understand it, and yet I can't look away.
July 8, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST
It's very simple: I don't want ANYTHING spoiled for me, unless I choose to seek out said spoilage. AICN has made a habit recently of posting spoilers in their HEADLINES, making that decision for me. To add insult to injury, they post these spoiler headlines with a little "Spoiler!" emblem next to it, as if that could somehow stop someone from reading the headline first. <br><br>Was it always likely that there would be baby carriages in BSG's ending? Sure. Was it definite? NO. How were we to know, before this, that BSG would even end in the same timeline, where babies would play an important part? How were we to know, before this, that ANY of the series' child characters would survive the series? Now, as a viewer, I won't be guessing -- I know for certain that Moore and company will not throw us a curveball (something they've done repeatedly throughout the series, mind you) with regard to the storyline about the importance of children and babies -- it's all been laid out for us by AICN's nonexistent sense of responsibility to its geek readership. <br><br>I didn't WANT to know anything about BSG's ending until it airs next year, but AICN has stepped in and took that choice out of my hands. If the headline for this piece had been written by someone with the intellect commensurate with the opposable thumbs granted him by evolution, it would have read something more like "Pics From The BATTLESTAR Finale! Spoiler!", but instead the headline INCLUDES the spoiler. "Space Baby Carriages!" -- oh, that's neat! Thanks, AICN, for just offhandedly mentioning something that DEFINES where the end of the series is going to go -- indeed where it MUST go -- in a place that is pretty impossible to miss if you visit the site, regardless of whether your readers want to know the spoilers. <br><br>AICN is run by a bunch of unprofessional fanboy fuckups who fancy themselves intrepid reporters, and this latest example of their ineptitude as 'journalists' simply showcases how far off the mark they are when applying that moniker. Like many readers of this site, I have the ability to EXTRAPOLATE from the spoilers herein, and that's diminished the surprises I was looking forward to next year, when this episode airs. I have a good idea of where it ISN'T going now, and it's all thanks to AICN just randomly informing me. THAT'S why I'm upset. Why is that so difficult to grasp?
July 8, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
It's difficult to grasp because you are completely overreacting. First of all, these "space baby carriages" have been, in essense, already seen in the mini-series. (You have seen the mini, right?) Second, in no way do these carriages or shots of Caprica "define where the end of the series is going to go". That's an assumption on your part. Third, I fail to see how "Sci-Fi Baby Carriages!" even constitutes a spoiler when read at face value.<P>Basically, what I'm trying to tell you is that there is nothing new to see or read here. Your tirade seems completely misplaced and unwarranted in this case.<P>I appreciate your desire for wanting to keep your experience of the BSG Finale as pure as the driven snow. (Believe me, I do.) But AICN's reputation is built on trying to generate and break these types of stories.<P>So, I think a little more levity would be appropriate in this instance.
July 8, 2008, 9:20 p.m. CST
and complaining about the titties. Or sort of like suing Mickey D's because the coffee is hot. Try this: Don't even look if it has red flags near it. I can't speak for anyone else, but the red flags are quite obvious and make it easy for one to look away. Leave if you must, but it would be a tragic loss to us all if we were denied the contributions of someone with such a nifty screen name.
July 8, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST
Man, if you consider ANYTHING to be a spoiler, what are you even doing here? Not trying to be Snarky, but seriously: There will be a finale, the actors on the show will appear in it, and there may be a flashback or tie-in to the mini-series, They may use the same baby carriages they used then, the actors will wear the same clothes....<p>I mean, if you really don't want to know ANYTHING about it, you need to be offline from now until then. You sure don't need to be looking at the front page of AICN, much LESS entering ANY BSG talkback.<p>During the season, I don't read the weekly TB until after I see the episode, because real spoiler will be present. But random speculation and innocuous images that reveal NOTHING about the story or plot or conclusion do not constitute the normal definition of spoilers. If they are part of your definition, though, I can respect that, but not your coming onto AICN and complaining about "SciFi Baby Carriages"
July 8, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST
It's very simple, and I've explained it as clearly as I can already: ANY spoiler, including details as small as those about props like "SciFi Baby Carriages", does not belong on AICN's main page. Otherwise, the "Spoiler!" emblem incorporated here a few years back serves no purpose whatsoever. <br><br>There's two options, here:<br><br> A)these spoilers are relegated to the body of the article, in which case a "Spoiler!" emblem can be tagged onto the story's headline, and those readers like myself who choose NOT to participate in 'spoiler culture' can be assured that visiting this site is not going to blow anything for them.<br><br>Or: <br><br>B) The site can forgo "Spoiler!" warnings and post whatever information they see fit in the headlines, and readers such as myself can rely on other sites that are more friendly to our 'no spoilers' preferences.<br><br>The thing is, AICN apparently wants it both ways -- I'm sorry, but you can't post a spoiler in a headline, and then run it with a "Spoiler!" emblem -- that's just flat-out idiotic. If the info has already been spoiled, WHY would you tag the article with a warning? Too little, too late.<br><br>More than anything, I'm upset by the fact that this is TWICE in recent memory that AICN has posted a spoiler in a headline that I personally have taken issue with (who knows how many they've posted regarding shows I'm unfamiliar with), and this one is actually the lesser of the two offenses. Without giving away the spoiler in question (and risk spoiling for other readers what was spoiled for me), I will say that AICN posted a headline a few months ago about a popular SciFi show; the headline gave away that an actor who had portrayed a major, departed character would be returning in the following season, even though that actor's character had been pretty definitively written out of the show previously. Given the nature of that show, it was clear that this character would be returning, and so it was a MAJOR part of the mystery of that season that AICN ruined for who-knows-how-many fans. <br><br>The Talkback on that article was composed greatly of people demanding that the headline be changed, and that this was WAY too big of a spoiler to be posted on the main page. I mean, there were DOZENS of people demanding that the offending info be removed from the headline -- nothing. Nada. No one from the site even so much as offered a response to the Talkbackers, let alone made an effort to fix the problem -- meanwhile, anyone who was a fan of the show and read the headline (like it or not) had a REALLY BIG piece of information handed to them, along with the aforementioned "Spoiler!" emblem (which did everyone a fat lot of good, since the spoiler was IN THE HEADLINE). <br><br>Two strikes is enough for me; I don't want to encounter anything close to as major of a spoiler as that last one, and it's clear that nobody at this site is going to keep readers like myself in mind and make sure not to give anything away on the home page. <br><br>I understand that some of you don't get it, or think I'm overreacting, or see me as someone who just wants to bitch -- if that's you, I have a feeling I'm not going to convince you otherwise, so I won't attempt to do so -- I've made my point, and I feel that if anyone from AICN is reading this and they'd like to discuss it, they can email me. Beyond that, I can't summarize my argument any more succinctly than "spoilers on the main page are a dumb idea, and doubly so when accompanied by a 'Spoiler!' warning". If you can't process that, I can't help you. Sorry gang, I'm outta here. Namaste.
July 10, 2008, 10 p.m. CST
Sorry to see you go simian.