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Val Kilmer and Xzibit Enlist in the Crazy Party That Is Werner Herzog's BAD LIEUTENANT!

Beaks here... I don't know where the subtitle went either. But did you really think you'd see PORT OF CALL: NEW ORLEANS on your local megaplex marquee? Does you local megaplex even have a marquee? I'm still not sure what to think of Werner Herzog's BAD LIEUTENANT remake. Up until 2005's fascinating GRIZZLY MAN, it seemed like Herzog was winding down as a creative force: he hadn't made a truly vital film since FITZCARRALDO (MY BEST FIEND and LESSONS OF DARKNESS are worthwhile, but minor compared to his 70s output), while his appearance in Zak Penn's LEGEND AT LOCH NESS revealed a disappointing predilection for self-parody (ever since then, I've had a difficult time taking Herzog at his word - though it does appear his getting zinged by an air rifle during a BBC interview was genuine). But the strangeness of GRIZZLY MAN effectively rekindled the cult of Herzog - which is great if it gets kids watching AGUIRRE, STROSZEK, FATA MORGANA... hell, even HEART OF GLASS; if they dig that stuff, maybe they'll try the other German masters of that era (Fassbinder, Wenders, Straub, Schlöndorff, etc.). Unfortunately, the newfangled Herzog worship tends to stop at RESCUE DAWN - and the fact that he's so unflappable and German! And yet I'm encouraged by the casting of Val Kilmer as Nicolas Cage's partner in BAD LIEUTENANT 2009. That's a lot of crazy for one film to handle. Shit, at this point, you might as well throw Michael Wincott and Tom Sizemore into the mix, and see if you can make it through principal without a fistfight breaking out every single day; that way, you get a fucked up film and a classic documentary in one fell. Still, I'd rather see Abel Ferrara contend with these beautiful lunatics than Herzog; Werner's just not that interesting when he's tending to fictional narratives nowadays. His heart's clearly in non-fiction. But, hey, maybe Ferrara's death threats have rekindled Herzog's ardor for the medium. Keep off those New Orleans streetcars, Werner! Oh, right. Xzibit. The PIMP MY RIDE host and xXx: STATE OF THE UNION co-star will play "Big Fade" in this goofy non-remake remake. Dig it.

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  • July 3, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    DAMN YOU M. NIGHT. SHYAMALAN!

    by --- Emperor ---

    Damn you to hell

  • July 3, 2008, 12:54 a.m. CST

    First FIRST Post for me...

    by --- Emperor ---

    I broke my First Post Virginity... Damn, I feel different already... :-)

  • July 3, 2008, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Herzog is hilarious in "The Grand"

    by Jarek

    The Loch Ness team made another movie, a really good one, called "The Grand". Herzog plays the scary german that has to kill one cute and cuddly animal a day as an addiction.

  • July 3, 2008, 12:56 a.m. CST

    First post POWERS.....

    by --- Emperor ---

    Oh powers that be...FILL ME WITH YOUR INSPIRATIONS OF GREATNESS...FILL MY BLOOD WITH EVERY DROP OF YOUR DIVINITY....

  • July 3, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Why?

    by Nuking the Fridge

    Too many re-makes. Not much else to say about re-making this. What is the point? There is just nothing else to say. And after Rescue Dawn, a fucken PG-13 Vietnam War movie. I have no desire to see this filmaker's view on an already classic 90's film.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Although.....

    by Nuking the Fridge

    If they were to throw in Michael Wincott, and Tom Sizemore, I would indeed be very tempted to see this.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Damn you, George Lucas!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Damn you to hell!!!

  • July 3, 2008, 1:20 a.m. CST

    I Find It Impossible To Not Love Herzog

    by 33.3rpm

    His dues are paid in full. He's a legend. Hey kids, want ten years worth of Film Theory class in fifteen minutes? Watch Les Blank's "Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe". Every word out of his mouth is fucking gold. Holy War, indeed...

  • July 3, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    The mythology of Bad Lieutenant

    by JediRob

    That's the kind of malarky they're going to feed us, with this non sequel non remake, sequel remake

  • July 3, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST

    This is becoming the most bizarre film ever

    by Gozu

    Will it be good? Probably not. Will it be interesting? Oh hell yeah. Also, I don't really understand Beaks' slamming Herzog. Now that officially his work is experiencing a resurgence you feel the need to shit all over it in order to look cool?

  • July 3, 2008, 1:59 a.m. CST

    I effectively said the same thing in the last Herzog talk back..

    by blckmgk13

    ...glad to seek you share a similar sentiment Beaks. But you put it much more eloquently. It isn't hate so much as apprehension and the fact that unlike some people, I don't adhere to the idea that Herzog can do no wrong. I can't help but think that those who do think he is some sort of deity must be first year film students still trying to earn their movie "cred".

  • July 3, 2008, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Val Kilmer to be Batman again!

    by Prossor

    after Bale finishes, how screw ywould it be for Kilmer to get in that suit again? yikes!

  • July 3, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST

    I HAVE A WERNER HERZOG T-SHIRT

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    I got it at the video store next to the NuArt in LA. It's designed to look like an old Danzig Tee, but instead it says, HERZOG. They have a whole bunch of different European filmmakers names in 80's metal logo style.

  • July 3, 2008, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I fear the SNAKES ON A PLANE effect

    by Mullah Omar

    Seriously, there is NO FREAKING WAY that this film can be as bizarrely cool as it is shaping up. I'm worried about the SNAKES ON A PLANE effect where the idea of the film ends up being better than the final product.

  • July 3, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    This article belongs on CHUD, Mr. Beaks

    by Gwai Lo

    By which I mean it's a tad snarky and attempts to place some sort of distance of credibility between you and your readers. Maybe "your readers" isn't exactly an accurate term for what you and most of the CHUD staff seem to imagine is a swarming horde of kids with no film education who are discovering all your favorite films at an alarming rate, but only for the purposes of name dropping them. The "You've Got It All Wrong" series was a good example of this, as legitimate arguments were sidelined to take cheap shots at the fanbase for the film being discussed. Read this sentence, please: "Unfortunately, the newfangled Herzog worship tends to stop at RESCUE DAWN - and the fact that he's so unflappable and German!" This is what I'm talking about, conjecture that is only in your writeup to prove you are in the cool kids club. Part of the reason why I kind of prefer AICN to CHUD is that everyone around here is so positive all the time, and you really get the sense that the contributors love film. I stopped getting that at CHUD recently, if you want my opinion summed up better than I can muster read Vern's thoughts on your Indy 4 tag-team post mortem throwdown or whatever. They can be found in his Indy 4 review. Quint's Movie A Day, Moriarty's One Thing I Love Today, Harry's orgasmic reviews, these guys all love to share their appreciation for the treasures they find and the classics we should already know about. You're a good writer, I just find the whole "I'm more knowledgeable than you" critical stance really obnoxious. Just some constructive criticism for you there Friendo. P.S. while most of his best films (some of which I consider among the best films of all time) were pre-Fitzcarraldo, I'd also call Cobra Verde, Dark Glow of the Mountains, Wodaabe, Lessons of Darkness, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, My Best Fiend, Invincible, Where the Green Ants Dream, Rescue Dawn, Grizzly Man and by the looks of it Encounters at the End of the World "worthwhile". And there's still a handful of his work in the last 25 years I haven't gotten around to seeing yet.

  • July 3, 2008, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Will it be bad?

    by DocPazuzu

    More than likely. Will it be as bad as the rumored Tarantino Faster Pussycat remake starring Tera Patrick? Not very likely.

  • July 3, 2008, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Give Abel a couple of...

    by Cagliostro

    bags of dope and I'm sure he'll embrace this. Shit, he'd probably work the camera.

  • July 3, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST

    Needs more Michael Ironside

    by dejectedgeek

    I think it would do a lot of good.

  • July 3, 2008, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Bad Director

    by kafka07

  • July 3, 2008, 6:37 a.m. CST

    A Tarantino Faster Pussycat?

    by Fixthe Fernback

    With Tera Patrick! I'm there!! (just as long as it is after Inglorious) And your spot on Gwai Lo, though other AICNers are guilty of this on occasion *cough* Grindhouse *cough*

  • July 3, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Impossible is possible in some way!

    by sugarbess

    hmmm, I am not that surprised at all. I just saw her profile and sexy photos on the celebrities and millionaires dating site wealthybeauty.com last week. It's said she is now interested in dating wealthy young guys on that site!

  • July 3, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Mr. Beaks and the decline of Mr. Herzog

    by Coma Baby

    I hate these "you all should temper your enthusiasm" articles. What's the purpose, other than to say, "Pipe down you - I was here first and anyway you don't understand?" Are there other narrative films that you're talking about other than Rescue Dawn (which I haven't seen yet)? I gathered that since Cobra Verde (awesome) he's been making documentaries and sometimes acting. I haven't seen all of his recent docs but Little Dieter Needs to Fly, White Diamond, and Grizzly Man, are all great. Certainly people are enthusastic about him because of his personality, and his obvious love of cinema (which he shares with lots of people on this site). But once they dig deeper into his films there are some gems to be found even in his later stuff. From what I've seen, I'd argue that his later documentaries are at least just as good if not better now.

  • July 3, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    This just gets better and better

    by Spandau Belly

    You get James Woods in there and I'll die a happy man right now.

  • July 3, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    What Would Dolemite Do?

    by darquelyte

    I think he'd say: Lieutenant, move over and let me pass 'fore they have be to pullin' these Hush Puppies out your muthafuckin' ass!

  • July 3, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    This Definitely Needed a Remake

    by Aquatarkusman

    Why not just do Reservoir Dogs with Anthony Michael Hall and that actor who once played "Young Sherlock Holmes"? BTW, can't WAIT for Cage-penis.

  • July 3, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    A Dolemite Quite is never old

    by MRJONZ72

    Thanks darquelyte

  • July 3, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    what could dolemite think?

    by sugarbess

    what a joke! Someone just photoshoped his pictures to some hot ones and then uploaded them to the online service 【wealthybeauty.com】.. you know the site is a rich men seeking hotties site.. so he is looking for a hottie there!

  • July 3, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Anyone else see the original with the Schooly D - Led Zep song..

    by LaneMyersClassic

    In my mind, that made the fucking film. I heard there was legal action and they pulled that song in subsequent releases. Travesty! I identify Bad Lt. with that song.

  • July 3, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Re: Val Kilmer as Batman again....

    by Rameses

    Have you seen him lately?You'd have to do some serious *letting out* of bales costume!Val's more in line to play the penguin these days.

  • July 3, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage full frontal???

    by skimn

    Please God no. Between Walk Hard and Sarah Marshall I've had enough dicks parade across the screen, thank you.

  • July 3, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    leave Ferrara's work alone

    by jrcash

    Instead of remaking this, why not give a chunk of money to work with Ferrara for his next film? His work is way more original than anyone else and one of his more recent films, Mary (with Forest Whitaker and Juliette Binoche), is extraordinary.. why not take this money and put it towards a re-release of that film? Why not upgrade The Addiction on DVD?

  • July 3, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Who's going to play Harvey Keitel's Penis?

    by One Nation Under Zod

    ...That was a very important role in the original...

  • July 3, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Herzog isn't what worries me...

    by Gozu

    It's the fact that it's produced by Millenium Films and starring Nicholas Cage. Anyone remember the last remake starring Nicholas Cage produced by Millenium? "Wicker Man," which was also directed by an arthouse director (Neil LaBute) who seemed to be an odd yet possibly inspired choice. On the other hand, Herzog generally self-finances and produces his films, so I don't know if they'll give him some room to breathe or try to micromanage him, in which case we might be reading the headline "Werner Herzog Feeds Avi Lerner to Bear."

  • July 3, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    That is a lot of crazy

    by CherryValance

    Val Kilmer is still my favorite actor and I've always thought highly of Nic Cage so this just became an absolute must for me. In a strange turn of events I've only really seen Herzog's fictional stuff, mostly with Klaus Kinski, who I also love. So the man knows how to harness crazy or better yet set it off. I'm suddenly very interested in this movie although I can't imagine it been anything like or having anything to do with the first, which I also thought was great.</p> btw, what is this jambocast stuff? It's annoying.

  • July 3, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Positively negative

    by Harry Weinstein

    "Part of the reason why I kind of prefer AICN to CHUD is that everyone around here is so positive all the time" I assume you mean the AICN staff writers - the AICN talkbacks are a veritable sewer of every imaginable sort of negativity and hate.

  • July 3, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Why not ban the spam guy already?

    by liljuniorbrown

    That is getting really old really quick. I never thought I would miss the old talkbacks full of bickering about pointless shit. Now all we get are "here's my new catchphrase,i'll post it every day" or "Yeah i know that remake is going to suck,you should go to mynewebsite.com right now". Oh well i guess i'll be pig fucked damn you micheal bay at seekingmillionareswhonukethefridge.com

  • July 3, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    screw ...

    by DeadPanWalking

    ... tom sizemore, this film needs Michael Wincott and Peter Greene.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Keitel was robbed!

    by Hudson Cock

    of an Oscar, at least a nom. His work on that film is utterly brilliant and heartbreaking and brave.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    LaneMyersClassic

    by Hudson Cock

    YES! Saw it at the Nuart in L.A. when it first played. NC-17 cut. They played that track as Keitel walked through the hospital in slo-mo after the nun was raped. F'in brilliant. Guess Schooly got sued or something 'cause I've never heard that track since.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Just don't touch Ms.45!

    by Hudson Cock

    I could see it now, the Rat doing a PG-13 Ms.45. You'll know then, that the end of days is upon us.

  • July 3, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Schooly D got sued by Jimmy Paige

    by Gozu

    Turns out his producer didn't have the rights to "Kashmir" after all. It's a really good song though and stands heads and shoulders above P. Diddy's "Come With Me."

  • July 3, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Fuck Gummo

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    Remake Julien The Donkey Boy

  • July 3, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Herzog's rationale for making this

    by PotSmokinAlien

    is that he wanted to shoot in post-Katrina New Orleans. I read about it in an interview a couple weeks ago. He's not taking the piss out of Hollywood by making something 'crazy' or satirizing the remake plague-- this was offered to him and he thought it would be an interesting project. That's pretty much it.<P>Now, if there was any justice as far as the casting, they would give Nicolas "Bear Puncher" Cage the axe and make Val Kilmer the sole protagonist, but I'm not holding my breath.

  • July 3, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    benditlikelucas, I'm not saying I agree with the lyrics, or the

    by LaneMyersClassic

    rest of the fucked up shit that went down in the movie, but the song completely worked with the movie because of the raw, flithy lyrics. Coupled with the hard-driving Kashmir sample, it set the mood in at least 3-4 scenes that I remember.

  • July 3, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Harry Weinstein

    by Gwai Lo

    Yeah, I meant the AICN staff writers, haha. Everyone knows the talkbacks are the raging id of the universal collective movie geek.

  • July 3, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    I think I know what Nic Cage is going to do

    by Gwai Lo

    He's just going to do Bringing Out The Dead Nicholas Cage again. This movie is just weird. On one hand I have total confidence that Herzog will make an interesting movie. On the other hand I have zero confidence that Nicholas Cage will be good in it. I just can't get choice parts of Wicker Man out of my head like HOWDITGETBURNED!HOWDITGETBURNED! and that scene where he steals a bicycle with his sidearm drawn. Or judo kicking Leelee Sobieski across a room. Maybe this movie will be awesome actually..

  • July 3, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Why not just call it something else?

    by PumpyMcAss

    It seems easy enough. Just do another story about a corrupt cop. It's not like this movie is going to make a mint on people loving and remembering the original. What is the point? And this could be good anyway. The original isn't a perfect film as far as I'm concerned. There is room for improvement but I still think it's all just weird. I don't get what the point is at all.

  • July 3, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Michael Wincott!

    by IamZardoz

    an outstanding suggestion!

  • July 3, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    It sounds like one of those things

    by Gwai Lo

    Where some dudes approached Herzog at Cannes and asked him if he wanted to do a Bad Lieutenant remake and somehow this made some sort of sense to him in a James Bondey New Orleans Port of Call type way that none of us understand yet and now he is going to do whatever the fuck he wants regardless of what anyone says. Anyone includes the dudes that approached him at Cannes, Val Kilmer, Nicholas Cage, Abel Ferrara, Mr. Beaks or whoever. I assume that's what's going on. Unless this is in fact going to be a Zak Penn movie about Herzog making a Bad Lieutenant remake starring Nicholas Cage, which would in fact make more sense. Whatever happens I have a feeling that once the movie comes out people will stop complaining that it's a remake and wonder why it even shares the same title.

  • July 3, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Point Taken, Gwai Lo

    by mrbeaks

    Thank you for that. I'm not trying to be contrarian or elitist or anything like that; I'm just tired of encountering young movie fans who blindly worship Herzog as an idea rather than an artist. It's great that he's still around making movies (mostly documentaries) that matter to him, but the work's gotten chillier and chillier as far as I'm concerned (GRIZZLY MAN aside). I guess I should be encouraged that RESCUE DAWN was at least engaging (when INVINCIBLE and the sci-fi movie were lifeless and mediocre), but the beauty of Ferrara's BAD LIEUTENANT is that it's punk rock. And Herzog's non-documentary features are so rigorously conventional anymore. Here's to being surprised! (BTW, nothing I can do about the tenor of the reviews of late. I've been underwhelmed by most films this summer. Still gushed pretty good over HELLBOY 2, didn't I? And a second go-round w/ WALL-E wiped away all the caveats I'd voiced after my initial viewing. I have a heart, damn it!)

  • July 3, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Beaks

    by Gwai Lo

    Thanks for the response, I think I was a bit harsh but it was mostly just to get your attention. I feel where you're coming from, because it can be sort of annoying when the uninitiated pick up on something obscure and start championing it without much knowledge. I just find it almost equally annoying when people adopt the attitude that they found something first and it's spoiled if other people find out about it. I know that's not you, in your writeup you said it's great if people discover the old Herzog stuff, and I agree with that. I just really prefer the approach Quint seems to be taking right now, which is more like "hey, check out all this old forgotten stuff, isn't it great?" He's admitting the gaps in his film knowledge and encouraging his readers to discover stuff with him. There's no judgement passed on anyone's credibility, aside from a few ass-hats in the talkbacks. Which is kind of cool, in my opinion. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you have to be positive about everything. I don't mean positive in the sense of your reaction to specific films, if they deserve heavy criticism then fire away. I have no interest in Wanted or Hancock, so your reviews kind of confirmed the vibes I got from the trailers. I haven't seen Wall E yet and I want to so I haven't read your review. Same with Hellboy 2. I didn't mean to make it sound like I didn't enjoy your writing on CHUD, either. But it's getting crotchety over there, and it started before you left. I also happen to completely disagree with your assessment that Herzog has been mostly irrelevant in between Fitzcarraldo and Grizzly Man, but my main issue was with the mostly irrelevant discussion of Herzog's fanbase in your article. I actually liked Invincible and thought it was at least worth a watch, because it was an interesting story and I hadn't really seen anything like it before. I assume the sci-fi movie you're talking about is The Wild Blue Yonder, which I will agree was lifeless and mediocre, certainly not his best work but I would argue it has enough interesting moments to be worth at least one viewing for a Herzog fan. I'd say that about a lot of his output I didn't mention as well, such as Bells of the Deep or Wings of Hope or Echoes From a Sombre Empire. In fact there are only a handful of Herzog films I've seen that I would recommend avoiding completely: Huey's Sermon, God's Angry Man, Jag Mandir. Probably a few more I can't think of off the top of my head. You have to admire his dedication to providing new images and new stories, exploring weird corners of the globe in a constant effort to capture "the ecstatic truth". I have no idea what to think of this Bad Lieutenant thing he's doing, who knows how it will turn out. But I think the man's career speaks for itself, and I don't think he's so much winding down as a creative force as experiencing highs and lows in subjects that interest him. He loves film, that much is clear, and it shows in everything he does. OK, so he hasn't made a Fitzcarraldo, Aguirre, Stroszek, Nosferatu, Kaspar Hauser, Fata Morgana or Even Dwarves Started Small in a while, but honestly who could keep up a track record like that?

  • July 3, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    "throw Michael Wincott and Tom Sizemore "

    by DrunkByNoon

    "Shit, at this point, you might as well throw Michael Wincott and Tom Sizemore into the mix, and see if you can make it through principal without a fistfight breaking out every single day; that way, you get a fucked up film and a classic documentary in one fell. " <p> Beaks, that's the funniest fucking thing I have heard all day

  • July 5, 2008, 5:51 a.m. CST

    I Would Wet Myself If They Put Tom Sizemore In This

    by pr1c3y

    I know I might be alone but I love the guy from his Pacino impression in Robbery Homicide Division to his crazy whackjob ambulance driver in Ambulance Driver (What Bringing Out The Dead should have been called) or in his own home made crazy antics Sizemore is somehow likeable to me, I want to see him make a comeback let's hope Tarantino squeezes him into Inglorious Bastards.

  • July 5, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Just Wanted To ADD

    by pr1c3y

    Who would smile if they heard Abel Ferrarra took Nic Cage out with a sawed off shotgun and fucked him with a crucifix?, Val Kilmer would be terrified.

  • July 5, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    The Naughty Copper

    by mrbong

    Bad Lieutenant - that was the one where Mr White threw the bottle of whisky at the hallucination of Jesus and called him a "wrecked fuck", wasn't it?

  • July 5, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    PR1C3Y

    by Project424

    Ambulance Driver is great. I love the "I'll fire you tomorrow" scene, especially.

  • July 6, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Project424

    by pr1c3y

    Yea great movie I love the actor who says those lines something Nascarella. I love the "I am a Japanese sandman♫" scene.