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Massawyrm Worships The Ground WALL-E Treads Upon!!

Published at:  Jun 27, 2008 8:36:40 AM CDT

Hola all. Massawyrm here.



You have never, never ever, ever ever ever seen anything like Wall-E. Ever.



Okay, wait. I’m lying. You’ve seen movies LIKE Wall-E. But they never managed to get quite as far as Wall-E does. Contrary to what you might think, this isn’t another of Pixar’s cutesy family stories with oodles and oodles of heart. It’s kind of got that going on, but sans all the goofy sidekicks, the moronic best friend and the Randy Newman song. No, Wall-E was born not in the 90’s at the fateful meeting that is talked about in the initial teaser trailer, but in the hardcore eco sci-fi of the 1970’s.



Wall-E is the direct descendant of Silent Running. Of Soylent Green. Of Logan’s Run and THX 1138. It is a film conceived and executed by someone who, like many of us as children, saw the inside of the Jawa Sandcrawler in Star Wars, watched all the robots futz around back and forth, and dreamed of what a movie just about THAT would be like. And while it plays around with a lot of very blatant references that even the most barely literate of film viewers would catch, its heart and soul is in those films of the early 70’s when we really believed the world was coming to an end and only Charlton Heston could save us. Or Bruce Dern. Or Michael York.



I would say that Pixar had never attempted anything this grandiose before, but really, I can’t think of anyone that has. It is a singularly perfect endeavor, a monument to what can be done both in terms of animation and storytelling. It is genius. Absolute genius. And it is adorable as all hell.



Wall-E is without a doubt a message film, but one that has been carefully honed to deliver razor sharp observations and profound assessments on the nature of our society. Now I’m on record as hating the living hell out of Happy Feet, a film I find to be representative of everything that is wrong with modern animation wrapped into one frightening 90 minute singing, dancing propaganda extravaganza. It takes its message with one hand and holds your child’s mouth wide open with the other as it stuffs its ideology down their eager little throats. And Wall-E is its antithesis. It is satire, wrapped in speculative fiction, told through the wide, curious eyes of a child – portrayed here as a lovable little Robot named Wall-E.



Most importantly, while it satires modern life and attacks a number of issues – from our rampant consumerism, our growing obesity problem, our slow progression towards a big box/one corporation world, and of course our blatant disregard for the beauty of the world around us for the sake of all those other things – it does so lovingly and through humor. It takes the problems to ridiculous levels so we can laugh at them while finding the truth ourselves. But it draws no conclusions. It is a film that says “Hey kids, here’s what your parents are leaving you. When you grow up, you might want to think about that.” It isn’t about solutions. It doesn’t try to get you to act. Like all good speculative fiction it gives you something to think about – and something for your kids to mull over as they grow up with that message buried deep inside of them



Meanwhile, the beautiful, sweeping story grips you to every frame despite its sparse and rarely direct dialog. It takes you to a nightmare world of the future and walks you through it letting you peer at it through the eyes of a character absolutely fascinated by its past. Never does it dwell on the horror – only the beauty buried beneath – and that one fact is what truly allows this formula to work. It is not a vision meant to terrorize you or your child, but rather to gaze through the looking glass at our own twisted reflection and laugh at it instead. And pine for our own world even as we spend time in Wall-E’s.



And dear god did they pull one hell of a brilliant snow-job with the marketing. You think you know what this film is about? Think again. The trailers encapsulate the first act of the film with small fragments of the second. This thing goes places you did not imagine them going and the result is nothing short of pure magic. An eloquent, lyrical poem about a world we could create if we’re not careful, but most importantly one about an unlikely hero who exists entirely upon the notion of unconditional love.



This is nothing at all like anything Pixar has attempted before. I would say that it’s Brad bird good, but really, this is even better than that. Wall-E is in a class by itself, a nearly indescribable masterpiece of epic proportions that will, regardless of commercial success, be regarded in the film community as one of the very best films in the history of animation. This will no doubt be spoken of in the future alongside such works as Fantastic Planet andFantasia. It is arguably the best thing Disney has ever had their name on and clearly the best with the name Pixar. It will take the Academy Award for best animated next year without anything resembling a fight and will no doubt be on almost every Top ten list you read at the end of the year.



If you have in any way written this off or decided to wait until DVD, you desperately need to reconsider your opinion on the matter. I spent my childhood dreaming about a movie like this. And finally it has come. You really have no idea what you’re in for.



Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.

Massawyrm



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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:38:43 AM CDT

    1st

    by pendergast

  • Jun 27, 2008 8:39:54 AM CDT

    looks good

    by pendergast

    I'm there

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:42:02 AM CDT

    not too bad

    by that 70s venom

  • Jun 27, 2008 8:42:36 AM CDT

    i won't read this.

    by gatsbys west egg omlet

    more that DK, i want to see this movie.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:43:11 AM CDT

    and the sandworm

    by gatsbys west egg omlet

    is just plain weird.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:44:19 AM CDT

    YAY.

    by zarles

    7 hours and counting. A theater seat, my ass, digital projection, and Wall-E.Can't. Wait.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:44:56 AM CDT

    Well-written review. I'm not much for what are

    by creasybear

    ostensibly kids-movies, but I may have to see this now.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:45:09 AM CDT

    If this gets hyped too much before I see it, I swear...

    by tonagan

    I will never forgive any of you. Ever!!!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:48:15 AM CDT

    Thank God no Randy Newman song...and I...

    by flickapoo

    ...mean it. God...if you exist...thank you.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:50:04 AM CDT

    Why do all of the Pixar movies

    by that 70s venom

    get insanely good reviews as opposed to live-action films? I mean... seriously. Go onto www.rottentomatoes.com and check out the scores for Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Monster's Inc., Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, etc. And now look at Wall E's score. Now... let me just say that I have seen these movies and they are good... but not THAT good. Each of these Pixar films is worthy of a 95%+ and in some cases a 100% review rating? These scores compared to live-action films are fucking nuts. What is it with all these critics who masturbate over Pixar's films? I love Pixar's work... but I would rather watch a good live-action film over a good all-CGI film any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:50:29 AM CDT

    i had no interest at first

    by zom-bot.com

    the commercials do what you describe no justice. they show no story. all i saw was fat guy and clunky robot. there is NO HINT of plot really. from what i've read here, i'm really interested. thanks for the review with all of the nods to 70's sci-fi. that sealed it for me.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:55:11 AM CDT

    Im seeing this is Digital Projection...

    by redfive!

    in exactly 2hrs and 7mins...

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:58:47 AM CDT

    Nods to 70s sci-fi??? WTF zom-bot.com???

    by that 70s venom

    See dude this is exactly my point, and this shit pisses me off. All of these Pixar flicks get lauded by everyone and their grandma's blow-up doll because of the pretty graphics and the "clever" adult-aimed humor. Meanwhile the ADD-saturated kiddies that are brought along to the theatre have no fucking clue as to what is going on in the story or the metaphor that the movie subtly delivers. They are just there for the pretty graphics that Pixar covers up the "important message" with. I'm sick and tired of this shit. If all it takes to get you people to enjoy a movie are references to pop culture or 70s sci fi or some other shit and a few adult jokes tossed in for good measure to satisfy the adults in the crowd then I have got to say that modern cinematic tastes have really slipped way below the threshold of quality that we used to demand of filmmakers. This is fucking bull shit. By the way I'm gonna go see this movie later today with my brother. Mother fucking Pixar... they always get my money.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 8:59:16 AM CDT

    Leaving work early

    by kentucky colonel

    so i gotta run. Don't tell the boss!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:00:36 AM CDT

    "It draws no conclusions"

    by darth bald

    Whew! I love all of Pixar's work, and I was very worried I was going to get another lecture from socialist environmentalists about man-made climate change, blah blah blah...If I want propaganda, I'll watch the turd that is "The Day After Tomorrow" or "Happy Feet", or just sleep through Al Gore's preachfest.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:00:47 AM CDT

    Later Kentucky Colonel

    by that 70s venom

    tell me how it was when u get back. im gonna go see it a couple hours after u get back.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:05:53 AM CDT

    If the worm says so I'm there

    by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks

    not that I wasn't anyway.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:08:20 AM CDT

    So... you LIKED it, right, Massa?

    by speed fricassee

    Kinda hard to tell.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:09:24 AM CDT

    WOW. Sounds Iron Giant good.

    by felix_happer

    I am truly excited by this review.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:13:51 AM CDT

    No Surprise!

    by filmfunk

    And you used my worm pic too!Pixar movies get great reviews because they're great movies. More than just candy coloured for the kids they're actually worth re-watching over and over because they are so perfectly honed for everyone! My kid watches anything and we're off to see Kung Fu Panda tomorrow which I hope is at least good and holds his interest, but Pixar are his favourites, the look on his face and all his friends reacting to a movie like Toy story is priceless, like they get it on their level and are so excited by it speaks volumes to the quality of their films and he's only 3! you don't have to worry about their next movie being good!may Pixar reign supreme for a long time to come.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:19:13 AM CDT

    And one more thing...when the second season...

    by flickapoo

    of WEEDS started with Randy Newman singing Little Boxes I almost poked my eardrums out with a mechanical pencil. Then they went on to have someone different every episode...so that was sort of OK. Still, nobody like Malvina Reynolds. Point is...Pixar needs to ditch Randy Newman for good. OK, I'm done now.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:33:54 AM CDT

    No Newman, but Peter Gabriel

    by technodawg

    Saw this movie last night, and it's definitely something you want to see on the big screen. If you see it on DVD, you will miss out on its surprisingly epic scope.

    Not only is there no Randy Newman song in its midst, but there's a pretty solid new Peter Gabriel song at the end. I sat through the credits just to listen to the tune and enjoy the usual credits silliness.

    I devoured every film trailer or video of this before seeing it and it does go in a direction different from what I expected.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:37:50 AM CDT

    Peter Gabriel....

    by flickapoo

    ...I don't know if it's just because I was stressed out at the time...or the red wine talking, but Peter Gabriel's score at the end of Rabbit-Proof Fence had me crying like a little girl...truly. It was unacceptable...

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:46:27 AM CDT

    FILMFUNK... so, by your rationale

    by that 70s venom

    a movie is only as good as the extent to which our children enjoy it? I'll tell you what says volumes about our moviegoing culture today is the fact that the way that we measure a film's worth these days is by how our kids react to them. Fucking pathetic man. Why doesn't Pixar start making movies ONLY for adults? If they would quit catering to the "parents and their kids" crowd maybe they could unleash a hardcore fucking all-CGI ninja movie about a ninja warlord who goes on a rampage and slaughters his entire ninja clan only to be thwarted by a wandering ronin who wields the legendary Katsushimo blade (which, of course, carries mystical powers).

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  • Jun 27, 2008 9:50:06 AM CDT

    Pondscum... you have a good point but

    by that 70s venom

    Pixar is not the only good studio in Hollywood. Moviegoers have just been duped into thinking that Pixar is the greatest shit to ever hit the big screen and it's simply not true. I enjoy Pixar's films but I will always stand by and champion the greatness of live-action film.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:03:15 AM CDT

    I'm may be the only person

    by series7

    Who feels that Randy newmans sonogs in Toy Story can't be beaten. But Gabriels song is very good. I am amazed at how well the voice acting Pixar does, even though it was almost like a minor point in the movie, but having Sigorny Weaver and Jeff Garlin as those roles were perfect. I love how in Pixar movies, there are no side characters that are just there.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:08:01 AM CDT

    70s Venom

    by medianerd

    You're too concerned about the medium used. Live-Action, CG, 2D, it doesn't matter. Its about the performance and the story and this one hits all the marks!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:11:12 AM CDT

    That 70s Venom

    by shatterglass

    Why has it become a contest for you? Why do you actually care that CGI films from a studio get higher ratings than a live-action film. That seems like the biggest waste of thought I've ever heard. It doesn't and shouldn't matter.

    The beauty of an animated film is that the work of hundreds of talented and skilled technicians and artists created it out of nothing. It's one thing to go out and film with a camera a cool action scene or epic scene, but to actually create it out of thin air using only your imagination is something totally different.

    But it doesn't even matter. There's no contest here. At the end of the decade they're not going to hold an awards ceremony and say, "Well, folks, it looks like CGI movies generally got better reviews than the live-action ones so the CGI movies win. Sorry live-action movies, you shall cease to be made. Long live animation!!"

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:12:11 AM CDT

    Shouldn't Massawyrm find this movie "communist?"

    by hobocode

    The way it dares to slander unchecked capitalism? I'm confused Wyrm.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:13:47 AM CDT

    Environmentalist Propaganda

    by thebearovingian

    'Hey kids, look at how shitty your parents are. They're killing the Earth/ Universe that YOU live in. Don't they care about YOU? They'll die soon enough from their sins but you'll be left having to clean up their mess.'I really hope that's just Massa's interpretation. "Gotta get 'em young!"

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:20:29 AM CDT

    That 70s Venom

    by series7

    Name one other studio that only releases quality work, and nothing else?

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:20:29 AM CDT

    MediaNerd and Pondscum

    by that 70s venom

    MediaNerd, it's not just the medium, though. I can imagine a live-action Wall-E being just as saturated with pop-culture bits and elitist, hippie humor. The medium does factor into it, but not enough to make the medium the core of the problem. For example, I saw Kung Fu Panda and it was better than a lot of the Pixar shit I've seen simply because they didn't try to force-feed chuckle-humor to the parents in the audience. It just came naturally and didn't feel elitist. By the way, Pondscum, I actually enjoyed Beowulf personally and I hope more movies are made similar to that, but I hope that next time the animators and CGI artists use anime-inspired choreography and artwork to translate a vision in the balls-to-the-wall CGI medium. Pixar has the ability and the money to pull off a bad ass mother fucking adult film but they keep shoving this insulting, hypocritically-aware-and-active, cotton-candy-cream-filled horse shit down our throats and we just eat it right up, bit by bit. And by the way, ninjas are fucking hardcore even today. Check out Ninja Gaiden 2 on the XBox 360. It just came out a while back.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:28:34 AM CDT

    Just wait

    by series7

    One day there will be a Pixar movie coming out under the Touchstone banner of Disney. I won't be R, shit Beowulf wasn't even an R and it was more violent (and better) then 300. Plus look at the head of Pixar, John Lasseter, yeah he's probably got a dark side to him. But I'm pretty sure he enjoys the lighter side of life. Also when has Pixar ever tried to force-feed chuckle humor?

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:28:55 AM CDT

    People who complain about Pixar not making adult films...

    by nordling

    are probably not adult themselves.It's science. You can do nothing. Einstein and Newton agree with me.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:29:26 AM CDT

    shatterglass, I hear where you're coming from but

    by that 70s venom

    it still irks me. Maybe it's because I don't share the enthusiasm that the pro-Pixar demographic does. I don't see myself giving a lot of these Pixar films a 95%+ rating. When I watch the Pixar movies, I don't really feel much for them. It doesn't matter how much heart and soul they ostensibly pour into the project, it is a lot more difficult for me to relate to the characters in these films than it is for me to relate to live-action characters. Maybe I'm just oldschool like that, I don't know. And I know I'm putting pressure on the medium here, but like I said the medium isn't the main problem. I would love to see a CGI epic and I KNOW Pixar can make one that is better than Dreamworks' Beowulf.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:32:07 AM CDT

    Series7

    by hobocode

    How about the studio that produced your namesake? Focus Features. Yeah it's owned by Universa, and they're not perfect but they're damn close and have made ten times better movies than anyhting Pixar has shat out.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:32:18 AM CDT

    nods to 70's sci - fi

    by zom-bot.com

    i'm not praising that it may make ham fisted references to particular 70's sci-fi movies, what made me glad to hear was that Massa basically said that it had the same FEELING as such flicks like silent running, etc, which at the time were just promoted as sci-fi/space fluff but usually had deeper context in regards to humanity and our often futile and confusing place in the universe. so chill man. i'm sick of pop references too

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:39:12 AM CDT

    we need to educate the children

    by zom-bot.com

    or else humanity's looking fucked. at least pixar teaches human morals and interpersonal relationships to kids instead of shit like pokemon. nothing wrong with a smart kids/family movie

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:39:26 AM CDT

    Series7

    by that 70s venom

    When has Pixar ever tried to force-feed chuckle humor? Are you fucking kidding me? Maybe I'm the only one who notices the parents in the audience who force a little chuckle out so they can attempt to impress the other parents in the audience or at least so the other parents can acknowledge that they are intellectual and new wave enough to "get" the subtlety of the jokes that the kids think are funny simply because of the slap-stick humor going on in the background. Parents feel obligated to show that they "get it" and that it's not just a kid's movie. Look at what our society has been transformed into. Our filmmakers coat our social commentary with expensive computer-generated cartoons so the soccer moms and mom-and-pop internet entrepeneurs can have a nice laugh while their kids' brains rot on ADD medication that is far more pharmacologically potent than is necessary for kids so they will sit still long enough to watch the talking CGI fish (the little guy) try to find his son Nemo (his peace of mind) in the great big blue ocean (modern society).

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:43:23 AM CDT

    Point taken, Pondscum, but

    by that 70s venom

    what about movies like Braveheart and Gladiator where there were no guns? All Pixar would have to do is make a movie that takes place a long time ago when there were no guns invented yet and just have ninjas going hardcore at each other and throw in some samurai for good measure and an awesome revenge plot and you've got a box office success on your hands. Sure, you will leave the kids at home for the film, but adults need movies too!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:45:19 AM CDT

    zom-bot.com, i apologize

    by that 70s venom

    my bad man. i misinterpreted what u said.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:47:25 AM CDT

    "Adult" films?

    by leopold scotch

    No offence to That 70s Venom, but films that can be described as "badass motherfucking adult films" probably appeal to real adults far less than films with depth which appeal to multiple demographics.People who look at Pixar films and see only "cotton-candy-cream-filled horse shit" and overt preaching are missing out on a lot. The appeal of Pixar films is never about the lesson of the day or the "adorable" characters (though if I read another Walle review which uses that word again, I may go mad): it's the visual beauty, the original premise, the characterization, the universal themes, etc. Some of my friends sit in silent embarrassment for me when I say that I'm really looking forward to Walle (and I don't get to see it til mid-July: dammit!) or that I absolutely love The Incredibles. They think that films can only be enjoyed on one level and that Pixar films aren't intended for me. They're way too self-conscious in that regard, and its their loss.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:48:46 AM CDT

    HoboCode

    by series7

    Focus features is a distributor mainly. And movies like Waist Deep, Scoop, Catch a Fire, and Dan in Real Life aren't good. And movie that they produced The Ice Harvest, Assault on Precinct 13, The Hitcher, The Other Boleyn Girl and They are proof that they make movies mainly for money. What did Focus have to do with Series 7? That was an independent movie. Yeah they may have Ethernal Sunshin, The Pianast, Mean Creek, Brick, Shaun of the dead and the DVD rights for Orgazmo. But most of there movies won't be talked about outside of the year they were released.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:53:39 AM CDT

    70 Venom

    by filmfunk

    I didn't say that! I said they are more than just kids films! They are concidered films for kids but they are first and foremost great movies. It's wonderful to see my kid sit for 2 hours absolutely glued to the screen when he's watching a pixar film much like I was with Starwars or Ray Harryhausen rather than getting itchy at shit like Alvin and the Chipmunks or completeley bored to tears by Nims Island, in my opinion this proves that Pixar are master movie craftsmen! whether you like kids films or not(and I don't concider them exclusively for kids especially The Incredibles) as rather for the kid in all of us! Sounds like you might have lost yours. At least you have a Ninja Panda film to watch, although, look out! it might just be, you know, for kids!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:55:59 AM CDT

    Leopold Scotch

    by that 70s venom

    I respect what you said, but make no mistake, I do not shun Pixar films because of some kind of tough guy, too-cool-for-school attitude where I feel like I'm too old to enjoy a CGI cartoon. I enjoy the movies to an extent, but Pixar's schtick, if you will, has run it's course. With all due respect to the creative minds that conjure up these films, it's just not doing it for me anymore. I was digging it for a while with the 2 Toy Story movies and then after the first 4 or 5 CGI films it started to drag a bit and now it's just getting worse for me. I just want Pixar to do something different. I want them to change it up a bit and do like a dark film or something. I don't mean "adult" as in it HAS to have beheadings and blood-spatterings and pixelized titties flopping around on the screen, but a little less slap-stick humor wouldn't hurt and humanoid characters would be nice for a change, and I don't mean humanoid like the misshapen characters from The Incredibles but how about characters that sort of resemble how the characters looked in Disney's oldschool Sleeping Beauty or something like that.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:00:21 AM CDT

    Planty

    by redfist

    preachy eco crap! J/K, I am down for this movie, but my wife is taking me to see KITE RUNNER!!!!!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:00:21 AM CDT

    Getting kids to sit still.

    by hobocode

    so this has become the litmus test for good filmmaking? Whether or not a film can suppress a child's natural desire to play and move around. Awesome.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:01:20 AM CDT

    RE: FILMFUNK

    by that 70s venom

    No way man my inner child is still very much in my soul. That's why I'm looking forward to The Dark Knight so much and that's why I enjoyed the new Indy film (although it could have been better obviously). Kung Fu Panda had some pretty good moments in it, I don't know if you saw it or not. But at least it wasn't laced with social commentary throughout. All I am saying is that the whole "hey let's disguise this as a family film" thing is getting old.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:02:27 AM CDT

    and btw good point HoboCode

    by that 70s venom

    very good point. the kids that sit still long enough to watch the Pixar films are the ones who are given their daily dose of Adderal before they leave their house for the theatre, obviously.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:05:55 AM CDT

    70's Venom...

    by jerseycajun

    Maybe it's just my skeptical nature but that's a helluva psychoanalysis you're able to do in the dark, in a movie theater filled with lots of families. Makes one wonder just how much of the actual movie you're able to absorb yourself, with your attention being so diverted with how other people are watching the film.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:13:04 AM CDT

    Humanoids and CGI

    by leopold scotch

    Aside from how expensive it is to create more realistic human characters through CG, I think one of the main reasons this isn't done is that they end up looking slightly off, like kinda creepy. I think that's why they took the direction that they did for The Incredibles. The better option would probably be to integrate CG into live action. As such, I suppose the Pixar heads would be worried about what such a project would mean for them as a studio widely perceived to be unique in its endevors and successes. There may be no reason to assume that they couldn't make a successful live action effects movie, but the same can be said of any big studio.I know if I was an exec at a studio which has attracted the devotion and adoration of multiple demographics and critics (as well as having LESS feature films that haven't won Oscars than those that have), I would shy away from producing something that is already so pervasive in the industry right now.Why doesn't Aardman studios make a porno? Why doesn't Woody Allen direct Neurotic Comedian Movie for next summer? Why doesn't Myazaki do a romantic comedy?Because the world is already flooded with these on a constant basis. Sure, it would be interesting to see the twist or the identity that these artists lend to their takes on the genres, but then there's the risk that they're abandoning whatever distinguishes their projects from everyone else. And since it seems that only a minority have a problem with Pixar as it currently stands, there's no need for them to jump into the pit with everyone else.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:13:39 AM CDT

    jerseycajun

    by that 70s venom

    Of course my mother-fucking attention is diverted!!! Because I'm the only son-of-a-bitch in the whole theatre who didn't have Adderall mixed in with my oatmeal before I drove to the theatre!!! You just proved my whole point!!! THEY'RE BRAINWASHED!!! THEY'RE ALL FUCKING BRAINWASHED!!! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!! PIXAR IS TAKING OVER!!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGHHH!!!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! *jumps in front of a train*

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:14:27 AM CDT

    *realizes

    by that 70s venom

    that the train isn't even in motion* phew

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:18:55 AM CDT

    Touche, Leopold Scotch

    by that 70s venom

    You've sold me on your point, actually. I was actually somewhat critical of how Beowulf looked, but not entirely. The characters did look kind of... strange. But I bet a nice balance can be struck between the design of the ultra-realistic Beowulf characters and the design of the disproportionate The Incredibles characters that looks great.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:20:36 AM CDT

    And...

    by jerseycajun

    I'm really looking forward to "The Dark Knight" as an adult movie goer looking for a mature take on the Batman's with the crime-drama sensibilities woven in, but I'm under no illusions that it's going to appeal to my inner child. Who's inner child craves those kinds of dark themes the film seems poised to project on screen?

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:26:29 AM CDT

    Yeah I can't remember where it was

    by leopold scotch

    I think it was on the DVD extras for The Incredibles where someone (maybe Bird himself) said that making photorealistic humans through CGI yields unsatisfactory results as well as being extremely expensive.Haven't seen Beowulf yet.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:28:10 AM CDT

    jerseycajun...

    by that 70s venom

    dude, if it was 10 years ago and The Dark Knight just came out and I was 14 years old again I would be frothing at the mouth and clawing my way through the crowd on opening day to see that shit. 14-years-old is still a kid in my opinion. I know some of you folks who had the tough-love parents were forced to go get a job when you turned 14 but as for me... well I don't think I was even in highschool back then.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:33:05 AM CDT

    FIREPROOF IS A GENIUS

    by that 70s venom

    LISTEN TO HIM. Fucking brilliant speech man. Fucking brilliant. I soaked it up. Every word.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:33:35 AM CDT

    *terrorist fist pump to Fireproof*

    by that 70s venom

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:37:40 AM CDT

    re: Fireproof

    by felix_happer

    then ride a motherfucking bike to the theatre.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:38:29 AM CDT

    I still say TOY STORY 2 is the best thing Pixar has done

    by zeke25:17

    There is nothing in the WALL-E trailers that even hints at what Massa states in his admittedly well-written review. In fact, all I remember is the scruffy little droid getting smashed up against a glass window by a mess of shopping carts. Whoo, HILARIOUS! Gotta be first in line to see that, right? It wouldn't have killed the marketers to hint a bit more at whatever's in that film that caused this reviewer to proclaim it Pixar's best. Instead, it seems we're supposed to go AWWWwww every few minutes because the robot squeaks or gives us a puppy-dog look.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:42:31 AM CDT

    Zeke

    by that 70s venom

    very well said my friend. and u got a good point too Felix I guess.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:44:29 AM CDT

    Yeah lack of drilling is why gas is expensive. (rolls eyes)

    by hobocode

    STFU Fireproof. Couldn't be the quagmire in the Middle East could it? Couldn't be our unwillingness to adequately fund developments of alternative renewable energy sources instead of handing out corporate welfare checks to the coal and natural gas industries. couldn't be the powerful pro-Israel lobby in this country harming our relations with the suppliers of oil. Couldn't be the recession Bush and Co. have created that has caused nearly everyone to not to be able to afford gas prices. Nah. None of that. It's the the hippies blowing up bull-dozers. You're right.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:54:49 AM CDT

    Environmentalism and Wall-E

    by leopold scotch

    I haven't seen the film (nor, I imagine, have most of the critics here) but from reading the reviews, I'm gathering that the film isn't an explicit environmentalist propaganda piece. Instead, like all worthy sci-fi, it takes relevant issues and explores them, often setting them in the background of the main plot. It seems to me that the film is criticising human indulgence at a general level. This has physical implications for the environment and for humanity as a race. This is how sci-fi works. Was Orwell a hypocrite because he didn't offer an ideal solution to Oceania's dystopia and yet proceeded to criticize existing power structures?Even if Wall-E does overtly criticize society directly for destroying the planet, are we supposed to accept that issues related to the environment, despite their growing relevance, should be out of bonds for film and literature because of the amounts of paper and power consumed in their production? Should environmental topics only be spread by word of mouth from now on?

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:58:16 AM CDT

    bounds

    by leopold scotch

    out of bounds. my keyboard is crap.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:04:49 PM CDT

    Cannot believe it

    by tk 421

    When people call the concept of global warming "propaganda". The fact is that it's actually happening. You can argue how much humanity impacts global warming and to what degree we can reverse it. It's possible that we can't and we're just fucked. But to say that global warming isn't happening is dishonest and disingenuous and naive. Argue all you want about what causes it, but don't be a moron and deny it exists.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:16:44 PM CDT

    "Couldn't be the quagmire in the Middle East could it?"

    by chrth

    Actually, it couldn't. Iraq is currently exporting oil at the same rate it did before the invasion.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:34:06 PM CDT

    chrth

    by hobocode

    Yes, when they should be exporting twice as much now that Saddam isn't tight fisting and a supposedly American-friendly regime is in place.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:40:38 PM CDT

    Massa, the review was spot on,

    by shut the fuck up donny

    but I still thing it deserves even MORE praise. I told my wife while I was watching it, "this is one of the most important film I've ever seen." It sounds so hyperbolic, but for me it resonated so deeply with both my inner child an adult: it was able to surround me with a sense of wonder I have not felt in a long time, while at the same time comforting me in knowing that I'm not alone in king "something's not quite right in society today."

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:42:25 PM CDT

    ugh, shitty typos

    by shut the fuck up donny

    *inner child AND adult; **I'm not alone in THINKING---Not that anybody really cares what I have to say to ponder the typos in the first place, but I apologize.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:52:29 PM CDT

    Is anyone else...

    by parabola99

    kind of excited that we're having a discussion on movies? No real flaming, just heated discussions on movies. Even the global warming/oil tangent hasn't degenerated into "yo mamma" jokes. Excuse me. I have to wipe the tear from my eye.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 12:56:32 PM CDT

    I think I came a little

    by abominable snowcone

    Good review. That bit about imaging a movie concerning what goes on in a Jawa sandcrawler was a dead-on accusation for me, because hell yeah I entertained those thoughts in 1977.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 1:07:31 PM CDT

    Oil prices

    by big jim

    one reason why they are so high is investors who were buying US dollars as investments have stopped due to the weakening of the $ and have gone to other items, like gold and oil. More investors are buying oil, creating a higher demand for the commodity and raising the price.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 1:38:55 PM CDT

    Abominable

    by atari

    Great tag line,

    "Wall-E, so good it'll make you cum!!"

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  • Jun 27, 2008 2:32:17 PM CDT

    Parabola99

    by killertomato

    Wait, Talkbackers are having a rational, intelligent, adult discussion of both a movie and larger social issues?! Fuck! Can't have that..... *ahem*

    Fuck you, you crying faggot pussy! Yo mamma so fat, she went to the movies and sat next to EVERYONE!

    Actually, I'm glad to see it, too. For once...

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  • Jun 27, 2008 2:34:28 PM CDT

    Well, crap.

    by killertomato

    There was supposed to be a /sarcasm> in there after "everyone." I FAIL.

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  • I thought that was pretty funny.I think it's important to note that this is also a more relevant to the times Pixar film instead of the nostalgia of Toy Story and Cars.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 3:50:03 PM CDT

    It BETTER not be too all cutesy and stuff...

    by monstermaniac

    ...not really in the mood for another of those right now. I'm getting excited about this one BECAUSE I'm hearing it's not. I mean, all these SOYLENT GREEN, LOGANS RUN, 2001, SILENT RUNNINGs references, and "epic masterpiece" talk... I don't know man... it better not be all gay-cutesy! (Even though these Pixar movies almost always are, no matter how many people tell me they're not. The commercials kind of look like that.)

    Something with an "edge" and more grown-up "epic-ness", to match those stunning looking visuals I'm seeing, would really be nice for a change from Pixar. Without too much of the cuteness and silliness stuff.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 5:01:35 PM CDT

    The REAL reason US gas prices skyrocketed

    by puddleglum

    Big Jim is right on when he said: "More investors are buying oil, creating a higher demand for the commodity and raising the price." For anyone that doesn't understand the economics at play here, Wall St needs to keep trading to survive. WHen the commercial mortgage market crashed last spring, it set of another chain of events that fully triggered the US economic slowdown that was already in play, but not being fully recogized. Traders know that when the market is volatile, you start looking at commodities - tangible items like gold, diamonds, corn, and GAS. Well, out of all the commodities, our society is infinitely dependent a=on gasoline, so it seems pretty safe bet tht the value of that commodity ain't likely to fall significantly in the short term, if ever (when have gasoline prices ever fallen much for years at a time? Never, that's when. You think anyone's worried about gas falling back to $1.00 /gallon again?) So, commodities traders started bidding on gas futures. Then, more did, and more, and more, and the bidding price continued to climb, climb, climb. When you hear about the price of a barrell of oil going up, BLAME COMMODITIES TRADERS. They are the ones bidding up the prices. Sure, there's an inherent problem with the finite supply of oil which relates to the price. It's the finite characteristic which gives anything its value. But, the fact is that commodity traders have been bidding up the price of oil, which directly affects how much a gas station owner has to pay for each gas shipment they recieve. Which is why the cost shoots up at the pump almost immediately - they can't buy more gas if they are selling the gas they have for less than the new gas will cost. The weak US dollar also plays into this problem. My understanding is that barrels of oil are priced in US dollars. Well, when you are a country whose currency is valued higher than the US Dollar, it makes buying commodities priced in dollars cheaper. So, foreign investors see a great pick-up on the commodities market. Add to that the increasing prices and you have toms of wealthy investors who have traders bidding the fuck out of oil futures! In conclusion, insist somebody investigate commodity traders for fraud and stop the ridiculous oil speculation that is bidding up prices.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 5:03:46 PM CDT

    PS- FUCK HANCOCK! & FUCK WILL SMITH!

    by puddleglum

  • Jun 27, 2008 5:21:48 PM CDT

    Damn You MCMLXXVI

    by theycallmemisterbay

    Damn You MCMLXXVI

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  • Jun 27, 2008 5:23:58 PM CDT

    Happy Feet

    by mooli_mooli

    Is the most offensively shite film I have ever seen in my entire life. Ever. Ever ever ever.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 6:45:20 PM CDT

    This film has nothing to do with Global Warming

    by gornpirate

    It is a great film and I suggest it for anybody who likes the prior Pixar films. It does have a very deep message about how we treat our enviroment and how we have let our lifestyles not only consume our planets natural resources past the breaking point, but our very humanity. We are so busy trying to buy the next gadget, the next quick fix of pleasure, and to avoid thinking about the consequenes for any of it by escaping into our virtual worlds like the internet/media we are losing what makes us human and our connection to th natural world in the process. It's an amazing mix of a simple humorous love story mixed with this deep undercurrent that so speaks to where we are as a species and our relationship to our world.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 7:32:17 PM CDT

    Here, Here Puddleglum

    by gringostar

    I concur.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 10:40:46 PM CDT

    Funniest moment:

    by nasty in the pasty

    The spork.

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  • Jun 27, 2008 11:58:59 PM CDT

    Funniest moment:

    by duke santos

  • Jun 28, 2008 12:59:47 AM CDT

    But is it as good as The Matrix?

    by fawst

  • Jun 28, 2008 7:22:38 AM CDT

    My Friends...

    by savoir_faire

    Massa is correct.

    I mean, DAMN! He is correct.

    I'm pissed. That's how good it is.

    Wow. Kudos to the Pixar squad. This is crack cocaine for the sci-fi brain.

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  • Jun 28, 2008 11:29:52 AM CDT

    very nice review

    by purplepurple

    i wasnt going to see it. From what I saw, all it seemed to be about was a cutesy robot who had some ipod looking robot girlfriend. If its really as complex as Massa puts it, it should be very interesting.

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  • Jun 28, 2008 11:10:29 PM CDT

    They'd BETTER do a 2-disc DVD this time...

    by nasty in the pasty

    ...instead of cheaping out with a shitty 1-disc release like they did with Cars and Ratatoullie. Seriously, Pixar films used to get the BEST SEs, and now they get SHIT. Wall*E is so gorgeously designed I want HOURS and HOURS of behind-the-scenes material, not a crappy, 20-minute EPK featurette and some storyboard-only deleted scenes.

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  • Jun 28, 2008 11:24:07 PM CDT

    Adult Films from the 70's

    by grand_wizard

    Ahh who can forget those celluloid masturbatory masterpieces the Mitchell brothers, Seka, Marilyn Chambers, Desiree Cousteau, Annette Haven, Linda Lovelace and Lisa DeLeeuw. When I think of 70's Adult that's the image that comes to mind, so Masa you can take your little pretentious nostalgic references and put them on times garbage heap, movies like Deep Throat are the only things worth watching from that era.

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  • Jun 29, 2008 6:38:19 PM CDT

    Wow!

    by filmfunk

    Pixar does it again! I now have a new favourite movie of 2008 and unbelievably my new favourite Pixar movie! Incredibles was safe I thought but 70's sci-Fi and the best short before hand made for a perfect afternoon!Pixar, once more Showing All other animation studios how it's done.

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  • Jun 29, 2008 8:54:34 PM CDT

    Massa

    by antz

    Interesting how I have read other reviews that say this is 10 x worse than Happy Feet at shoving a message down your throat, yet you like this.

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