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No Love For GALACTICA!! Or Imaginationland!! Emmy Finalists Announced!!
I am – Hercules!!
“Ugly Betty,” “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Family Guy” made the Emmy finalists but not “Battlestar Galactica” or “South Park.” Huh!
(No love for “My Name Is Earl,” “The Shield” or “Californication” either.)
From 20 shows, 10 will earn proper nominations.
Top 10 Comedy Series Finalists
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Entourage
Family Guy
Flight of the Conchords
The Office
Pushing Daisies
30 Rock
Two and a Half Men
Ugly Betty
Weeds
I believe I would winnow these down to:
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Entourage
The Office
Pushing Daisies
Weeds
Top 10 Drama Series Finalists
Boston Legal
Damages
Dexter
Friday Night Lights
Grey’s Anatomy
House
Lost
Mad Men
The Tudors
The Wire
And I would winnow these down to:
Damages
Friday Night Lights
Lost
Mad Men
The Wire
The Office 4.x
Pushing Daisies 1.x
Pushing Daisies 1.x (Blu-ray)
Lost 4.x
Lost 4.x (Blu-ray)
Mad Men 1.x
Mad Men 1.x (Blu-ray)
The Wire 5.x
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Entourage
Family Guy
Flight of the Conchords
The Office
Pushing Daisies
30 Rock
Two and a Half Men
Ugly Betty
Weeds
Boston Legal
Damages
Dexter
Friday Night Lights
Grey’s Anatomy
House
Lost
Mad Men
The Tudors
The Wire
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u clearly didnt watch the previous seasons of weeds or entourage as they sucked ass
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Am I first?
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i was actually first
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Second and Lost is terrible.
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Did Shatner get nominated????
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Jun 26, 2008 8:00:36 PM CDT
Californication and Battlestar are really good.
by stereotypical evil archer
But people already know this.
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"The Shield" is one of the best series on TV, but last season (IMO) was weaker than the previous five plus it was way too short. Better luck next year.
Concerning BSG: The show deserves no honors. It had (again, IMO) a great first season and a pretty decent second season, but things went way downhill after the FTL atmo-jump. -
Best show on TV, and a brilliant 5 season arc. Would have liked to see BSG but this year was Lost's year if you're talking genre. I really dug 30 Rock too, but I'm not an Emmy voter.
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the wire actually made the finalist cut. let's see if they give it a nomination (and eventually an emmy).
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...is why Herc would shorten those lists down to his choices in the vocal styling of a horse?
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No contest.
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The Wire won't win shit.
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The Shield isn't eligible this year. No episodes aired in the window.
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The Wire won't get nominated, and let's face it the 5th season was the worst by far (you know it's true).
I wouldn't complain if it won based on the first 4 seasons though.
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what's the cut-off date for eligibility?
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Seriously, are you smoking crack? Entourage and Weeds had what were easily their worst-ever seasons. Throw the Conchords a frickin' bone, would ya?
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Wasn't Galactica's best year. They'd better win big for their last season, is all I'm saying.
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The shows's fine, but next to The Wire it looks like Renegade with Lorenzo Lamas. Get a grip.
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That is a fucking fact. Entourage = dudes hanging out and banging hot girls. 30 Rock = takes an I.Q. to understand jokes and gags.
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Robbed
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They could win as a "lifetime achievement" sort of thing, but I think they will get just a consolation nomination. The win goes to Mad Men or Damages.
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the first half was crappy, but it was worth sitting through just to hear nancy say "he taught me how to drive-by"
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And Go Family Guy! Fuck you, haters.
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Seriously, are you shitting me?
(I like FG, but a potential Emmy nominee for Best Comedy? I'll let someone else think of some of the classic sitcoms never nominated for Best Comedy Series. I'm still in shock.) -
The Emmys need to get their shit together because with this lazy & myopic selection, they'll as pointless as the fucking Grammys.
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Closest competition is "Curb," but that show's run this year was more hit-and-miss than usual. And, "Two and a Half Men" is considered a comedy?
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...are simply astounding. both of them deserve the highest awards possible. Lost too but that was always gonna be the case...
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Just sayin'.
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Could someone point me to the complete nomination list? Thanks in advance.:)
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It's season ENDED last November.
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The acting finalists might be out by tomorrow, hopefully.
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http://tinyurl.com/5kusoh
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that show isn't even worth watching
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-Dexter--House--Lost--The Wire--the other spot can go to no one, since it belongs to BSG
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Had an awful season. First half was good, but every episode post-strike was nearly unwatchable.
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Cable TV shows almost never get the recognition they should from Emmys. BSG, Deadwood, Rome and Dexter should have all gotten Emmys for best Drama series. Shows like Lost and 24 aren't even half as good as these shows.
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I don't care that it didn't get nominated. And I don't think The Shield was even on this year to qualify.
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Of course BSG isn't going to get Emmy love.
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Didn't me to be a tease,sorry.Thanks for the info Pennsy.I guess I should get better at proof reading my posts...
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But Two and a Half Men gets a nod? Seriously?
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the looks on Trey and Matt's smug, comedy-elitist faces. Every time those guys slam Family Guy, I just shake my head sadly and wonder what happened to make them such bitter dicks. Don't get me wrong, they're right about the very random jokes on FG, and SP is a much smarter show. But I still laugh an awful lot during FG...
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that you didn't just diss Lost. Don't make Ben extend the Collapsable Ugly Stick...
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It played out in season 3. Now it's just a gimmick show. Better than 24, but after eight years 24 is like a music box that's starting to wear out.
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pay off the committee for this shit?!
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That was one of the best Losts ever. They should win for that one.
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Everyone is always complaining about everything being a spin off or remake... well Pushing Daisies is pretty damned original, stylistically at least. "Amelie" is really the only thing I can think of to compare it to. Besides, Kristin Chenoweth really needs an Emmy to go with those two fantastic Golden Globes...
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Very consistantly strong season, the Writer's strike may have just saved the series by forcing them to cut out alot of the drawn out BS.
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Family Guy is for retards.
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on either list. And I like most of those shows.A co-worker and i were just talking tonight about how superior The Wire is to everything else on TV. If nothing else it deserves a writing WIN for "-30-"
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Jun 26, 2008 10:13:23 PM CDT
Okay Herc: Start watching Dexter, your starting to piss us off
by stormwatcher
Cuz I mean really. Dexter Season 1 and 2 are just about freaking perfect. Californication not so much, Weeds yes. Oh my yes.
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Oh wait, this is the Emmys? Nevermind, whichever show HBO paid them off for will win.
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and each time he does, my thoughts dwell on making a small incision at my ankle, and pulling a vein like a thread in a blanket all the way up my body until I die.
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(terrorist knuckle-bump)
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He's the coolest guy on earth. This asshole could make OJ Simpson repent just by staring at him. If you came home one night, and the house was all dark and the lights didn't work...and you knew something was wrong...and all of a sudden Robert Blake popped out of your closet wearing clown makeup...if you were Lance Reddick, you'd just stare at him and he'd slowly back into the closet while you waited for the cops to arrive.
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Jun 26, 2008 10:23:27 PM CDT
BSG writer David Weddle CASTRATES Emmy voters in SyFyPortai Q&A
by pennsy
Destroys them. Money quotes:
"Well, we're in the sci-fi ghetto still...We're still a science-fiction series, and the vast majority of voters don't understand the show or haven't even seen the show. But I would love to be surprised."
"I think this will be remembered and watched and lived for many decades to come when a lot of Emmy winners of the present day will be forgotten. That's as it should be."
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Jun 26, 2008 10:27:43 PM CDT
tme2sb, not as much as Mr. Michelle Pfeiffer paid off the voters
by pennsy
for Boston Legal's continued, mystifying Emmy success.
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if family guy makes it to the final noms and FOTC doesnt, Im gonna be kinda upset. And I am not even one of those FG haters. It just isnt one of the best comedies on right now. I know neither stands a chance of winning, so i will be happy if FOTC and Pushing Daisies both get noms.
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It's got spaceships and robots. Of course they won't nominate it. Has BSG replaced Buffy as the new "shocked it again is not nominated" series? It ain't happenin'. The last Wire season was the weakest, but still pretty dang good.
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BSG is different than buffy, in that it is actually respected by all of the critics as well as fans. Buffy got good reviews and tons of fans, but the mainstream media avoided it like the plague. Therefore, the Emmys avoided it like the plague. IT isnt quite as embarassing to like BSG as it is to like Buffy. And for the record, Im not bashing Buffy. I mean, just look at my name.
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30 Rock and The Wire are clearly the best in both categories. Give it to Mad Men next year but you'd be an utter fool to try to argue that The Wire wasn't the best dramatic series (even though they deserved it even more after season 4.)
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And Rhys Darby for Best Supporting Actor
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And no Breaking Bad? The article headline isn't even accurate. Just because South Park isn't nominated for best series, doesn't mean it can't win for writing. And isn't it in animated series anyway?
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With the office and Flight of the Conchords as the main rivals. For drama, I agree with the guy above who singled out The Constant.
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All the menopausal academy members can fucking shove it.
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It's shit. I mean, really, WHO is watching this? CUT IT OUT!!! Turn on Venture Bros instead, you insipid morons!
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what about robot chicken? and if the wire loses, im fire bombing all the voters houses
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and no, they aint emanuel chriquis tits...they are piven and dillon...outside of that, its insipid and boring
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Is that it lacks charm and humor and portrays women in an unrealistic way. These are the stereotypes of Sci Fi, and the show plays into them.
Lost is a Sci Fi show too but it has lots of charm, humor and with one or two exceptions (namely Kate's backstory) generally portrays women much more realistically. BSG could learn a thing or two. -
Damn you to hell!
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The AMC series about a chemistry teacher turned meth dealer was incredible.
Every episode blew my mind. The show was consistently adult, funny, deep and affecting and deserves any award that can be given.
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I know it doesn't have the geek factor of BSG and Lost and all that, but the writing, the mix of comedy and drama (and, arguably, it should be in the comedy category), its entertaining and thought-provoking dialogues about political and social issues...it's just a very well done and consistent show.Not that I'd pick it over some of the others like the Wire, FNL, Lost, Damages, Dexter. But its inclusion on the short list is warranted.
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Figured Heroes would be in Best Drama. Whether you liked it or not, it was the darling show last year and seems strange they wouldn't put it out again. No excuse for Entourage being included, horrifically smug show.
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Hey I watch the show but I don't think it's the greatest thing since splitting the atom. Which some of you seem to equate it. The only thing great about BSG is the SFX. This could've taken so many more interesting paths but didn't.
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Comedy - Office, Daisies, Conchords, 30 Rock, Curb (haven't seen S6, but it's fuckin Curb). Unfortunately Conchords' 2nd half was kind of weak, so winner goes to Daisies.Drama - Lost, The Wire, Damages, and based on fanboy appeal I'll include Mad Men and Dexter (hopefully I'll be watching them both very shortly). Winner Damages, with The Wire winning best writing and directing for "-30-", despite the previous episode, "Late Editions", being the best of the entire series.
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Lost season 1 won Best Drama and wasn't even nominated for season 2. Probably because it ditched character development in favor of sci-fi. Also, Heroes season 2 was complete and utter ass.
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I disagree with on the 'complete and utter ass', but defend your right to say it. Mostly because I think Lost S2 was bowling-show bad, and I understand the annoyance that comes from hardcore fans yelling YOU ARE WRONG every ten seconds. But... well, I can't rationalise Heroes not getting a nom. Maybe it's my intense Entourage hatred. And I know they're in different categories, but damnit... superheroes need some love.
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on the drama list. I think you can guess what they are.When the actors' lists show up, Emerson and Cranston better appear.
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Even though it wasn't quite up to season 1 standards, it was still better than everything else on.
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they are the hip darlings at the moment. I don't think they will win but they will get a nom and play a song at the show.
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it will get FNL's spot. House will get The Wire's. Hope Entourage gets ignored, that whole Medellin storyline sucked ass
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Dexter, the friendly neighbourhood serial killer should win.
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*shrug*
must be one of those racist, motha-uking New Zealand-haters, man.
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I'd bump Friday Night Lights from Herc's top 5.
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Obviously it is the clear winner. And they hate genre stuff so not a surprise, unfortunately.
Comedy - all they care about is success. 2 and a Half Men will be in the final list and 30 Rock will probably will. FLight of the Conchords should be in - as should 30 Rock. Pushing Daisies shouldn't and nor should the last series of Weeds which went way downhill. Too late to big it up now Emmy people.
Drama - Dexter and The Wire are the only real standouts. Mad Men had moments and Damages was just dumb - oh who could have done this? Glenn CLose? No?!?! Oh look - something else happened. Who could have done this - no, not Glenn CLose again?!?!? And something else - etcetc Amazingly cackhanded scenario with clearly the dumbest people on the planet with memories to put goldfish to shame.
Unfortunately it will probably win.
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is the best thing on TV (along with BSG:)
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'cause you're in for the best season long story arcs since DS9, Angel, Buffy, Prison Break and... umm, I didn't actually mean to make this such a long list). Thinga about Dexter is, however, there are no 'filler' episodes. It's attention grabbing and sustaining for the whole season - amazing.
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most things are funnier than weeds
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It's FUNNY! Duh. You haters are morons.
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Its been fairly critically-acclaimed throughout its run, and this was by FAR the funniest season so far.
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Venture Bros should have the slot that Family Guy took in the category: smart writing and elaborate story arcs make it as compelling as many of the live-action shows on tv--and certainly light-years beyond Family Guy. But then again, I wonder if the guys on that show (or Adult Swim for that matter) really give a shit to lobby for this stuff? They're too busy actually making entertaining shows.
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...was the most logical, adult, and easily approachable sci-fi show on tv last season. It had characters you actually cared about! It was 12 (?) perfect episodes! Just because it was canceled doesn't mean that it wasn't quality.
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Then it's not going to win for anything else most likely. Even a lot of people who dislike the new BSG as a whole agree that "33" was simply outstanding as a piece of relentless tension building fiction in general (let alone science-fiction).
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from Weeds, was one of the funniest things of the past season. There should be a best comedy song Emmy given for that.
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What a piece of shit show. I can't even stomach 1 minute of that trash while waiting for Lost to come on. Usually I'm sitting there flipping back and forth between ABC and another channel, hoping I don't absorb a single drop of that inane fuckshit into my brain.
The Wire deserves to win it though, and the snubbing of that show for 5 years is embarrassing. Dexter and Lost deserve nominations though, dunno why Dexter never gets any love on this site. -
Yep, that's about it. Jack shit.
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That line alone warrants a nom for Michael Emerson. Also when he sees Alex die. Pure CLASS!
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the best tv on tv.
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Or last year for that matter.
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But season 2 did have problems. A new female lead wooden as a wooden thing really didn't help what was already a difficult story. Carradine was good - his storyline wasn't. Hopefully they'll sort things out for season 3. But it is so much better than most anything else on TV that even with those problems it still walked all over them.
But in a system where quality is key it should be Dexter vs The Wire vs BSG and not kak like Lost and episodic crap like Gray's Anatomy and House (no matter how good Laurie is it is the same damn thing every week). But then - when have the Emmys ever cared about seriously good writing? Like Pratchett says - paraphrasing - you can create the most incisive satire of modern life going - but include one lousy dragon and the critics write you off. BSG - like Buffy - will never get Emmy love. -
Damages
Friday Night Lights
Lost
Mad Men
Although Lost had its heydey.
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South Park was submitted in the Best Animated Series category while Family Guy was submitted in Best Comedy Series category. Thats why The Simpsons didn't win best animated in 93 and 94 (maybe it was 94 and 95), the creators submitted it in Best Comedy Series. Also final nominations won't be out for a while these are just the top 10 popular vote getters.
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And I'm a BIG earl fan, but I've got to say Earl did not deserve it either... this was the weakest earl season so far. The last couple of episodes were decent, but the whole 'Earl in a Coma' plotline was a dud for me.
I disagree with your drama picks -- House will definitely be in the final list based on the season finale, which was totally kick ass.
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FUCK THOSE GODDAMN DOUCHE BUCKETS FOR NOT ELECTING BSG AS BEST SHOW IN HISTORY AND GIVING IT THE GODDAMN MOTHER FUCKING AWARDS IT DESERVES!!! I LOVE THE SHOW AND WANT TO FUCK AFTER SEEING IT!! I LOVE IT TO DEATH!! REALLY, BEST SHOW AFTER LOST, MOTHER FUCKERS SO PISS THE FUCK OFF AND DIE LIKE BEATEN BITCHES YOU BASTARDLY FUCK ASSES!
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dont they realize Belushi still has the polaroids?
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Go LOST. And I really should try and watch The Wire...i hear its quite good.
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The Wire is a great show but the Shield is just as good but in a completely different way. The Shield is as good as TV gets and is probably better than the medium it occupies. There's no need to bash it just to make your personal favorite seem better; that's fucking weak.
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Fanboys who argue that it's the best show in history look like idiots. I'm all in favor of BSG getting an Emmy nomination... in a year when it actually deserves it. But this sure as hell wasn't it.
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Are just making a fool of themselves.
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except for Grey's Lobotomy of course. Jesus that show has people fooled.
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Jun 27, 2008 12:25:26 PM CDT
FINALLY!!! GALACTICA GETS THE RESPECT IT DESERVES: NO RESPECT
by kenichi tanaka
It's About Time that Moore's bastardized version of Battlestar Galactica got the respect it deserves ... NO RESPECT!!!
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Easily one of the top 5 comedies on TV. Too irreverent for Emmy, perhaps?
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At least the acting is good/great
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They nominated these pieces of shit and ignored South Park and BSG? Its official. The world has lost its head.
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Although I agree that the 5th and final season of The Wire was probably the weakest, it was still better than everything else on the list. And I thought the finale rocked! Sorry "Shield" fans, but as much as I enjoy that show, it's not even in the same league as The Wire.
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Imagination land was great, but I may be a little biased since Stone and Parker threw in so many tidbits from my youth like Rom Spaceknight, Mordred from the movie Excalibur, and Snarf, Snarf, Snarf.
As far as BSG goes, well I've watched the miniseries and all of the episodes, and I just don't think that this show deserves as much praise as is given by the hardcore fans. The word "brilliant" has been used to describe this turd so often that it has been rendered meaningless. -
All the way. But they're two shows that in all likelihood really don't seem to stand a chance. And besides ... I'm undecided if I would actually be happy or not if The Wire won an Emmy this year. It's kind of too late after it not being given the Emmy for seasons 1 or 4. But hey, whatever. Some respect is better than none, I guess. It just seems like ... well, I have this friend who can't stand The Wire but every time he's around people he thinks of as 'smart people', he will profess a love for The Wire ... because he fears that people will think he's an idiot if he admits that he doesn't get it or like it. That's how the Emmy voters would seem to me this year if they gave the award to the Wire -- just kind of like a bunch of pretenders, lying to try and pretend they have a shred of credibility.
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I thought this season was terrible. I keep watching, in the hopes that someday I will be like ... "OH! That's why this show is great!" But, sadly, the day never comes. BSG is only okay.
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To be completely honest I dont think that its that great. Ive watched every episode and i think its just ok. Weeds, curb, south park and even Entourage (Not the greatest show ever, but its just flat out entertaining) are all better imho. FOTC was funny at times and I really enjoyed the overall production and feel for the show but some episodes were good and others kind of sucked. Really excited to see what they do for next season though because it has a lot of potential. And one day i would love to see some love for Its always sunny in philadelphia because i think its the funniest show on tv. And the office can be ok but its formula has run a little stale i think.
As for drama, Dexter and LOST are my favorites. And why the fuck is Greys anatomy on the list? Im not going to go to much into this but the people who select shows are barely ever going to get it right. Not to jump on the band wagon but i really hope that next year BSG at least gets a nomination -
Well, actually FNL will lose, now way it pulls an emmy. Like almost every show not named Lost last season the Strike really hurt its flow. That and a bad story line choice for a few episodes. Still, FNL is a great, great show.
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damn camera wont slow down. The camera flit speed is such, that I cant follow any of what is going on. Sky One has been showing repeats. mid morning.
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And I don't give a rat's rectum about the Emmys, or about retarded fankiddies who are outraged that people don't agree with their opinions. Never have and never will.
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Battlestar Galactica was on in like THE SEVENTIES. How the HELL would it get an emmy nomination now?
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I mean really, does anyone really give a shit about these things anymore?
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BSG deserves Emmys in so many catagories, it's a damn shame they get no recognition. Yet another example of how the Sci-Fi genre gets no respect. In completely unrelated news, (unless you count the 'quality TV show getting the shaft' angle) I again make the hapless plea to anyone out there who may have the NEWER Fantasy Island with Malcolm Mcdowell on DVD. Or if anyone knows about a commercial release date of such. Thanks!
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It is amazing to me how many people watch ENTIRE RUNS of shows, literally HUNDREDS of hours, but aren't fans. If you think something is just 'ok' or you don't really like it, just move on to something else. You're not required to watch something that you don't like. It is mystifying to me why someone would watch something if they aren't a fan.
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Damn You MCMLXXVI
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Two and a Half Men? WTF, shouldn't sitcoms that need a laugh track be automatically disqualified?
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Hey, I didn't say that it was genius. It isn't. Unless you compare it to most of the other nominees, then the word genius isn't too far off the mark.
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but will agree it had a hit and miss season this past year. Its seems its was funnier when it was flying under the radar, but now its trying a bit too hard. I have found the little seen TBS 10 Items Or Less to be the more consistent comedy this past year.
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And I've thought of some great comedies never nominated for Best Series Emmys:
Green Acres (you heard me)
The Simpsons
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I recall not a single music or song nomination for Once More With Feeling, which was reviewed as being as good as anything on Broadway.
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..Breaking Bad's Bryan Cranston, Pushing Daisies' Chi McBride and Weeds' Kevin Nealon..
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It's Always Sunny deserves a nod. How I Met Your Mother deserves a nod. I've never really liked putting the hour long "dramadies" into the comedy section, but I guess that's the only place shows like that can go. Hopefully Pushing Daisies gets some love. As for the drama side, while the Shield is worthy, did they even air any new episodes this past season? same with BSG. I think that's the only reason for the snubs...
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She deserves it.
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Yes, there were a few good ones, but they spent too much time on "outside the premise" episodes. Pre-strike we had Earl in prison. Post-strike we had Earl in a coma. The "classic sitcom" dream scenes were not particularly funny and not even very good parody. Still love all the characters, though.
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I've been saying this for a long time.
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AGAIN?!?!?! Every year they have a chance to nominate the best show on TV for the last 3 years. Everytime they drop the ball. Frak this shite! Whoever wins the Drama Emmy is a sham!
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...at this late date in this final season may have hurt the Emmy prospects and impacted everything else. Understanding the show puts all the performances in perspective. For example, you wouldn't understand why Mary McDonnell is so Emmy deserving if you did not get the dying leader, Opera House visions, search for the Final Five and transformation from air locking Cylons to accepting a Cylon truce developments.Fans get it, but I wonder about others as it pertains to Emmy consideration.If nothing else, that the Earth scenses, along with the tracking shot at the end of Revelations should have garnered something for music, effects, acting, etc.
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Dexter realy is a great show. Im surprised it hasent gotten much love. Its one of the few things I have seen that feel truely original. Its not some recycled show.
Speaking of recycled shows, BSG is actualy prety good but its starting to feel a bit like LOST. But in space.
Humm..
theres an Idea for a truely great original new show...
LOST:in space..
about a group of people that survives after thier space ship crashes on this weird planet whare strange stuff keeps happening to them.. Its gold I tell you!
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IIRC, that had more to do with misunderstandings on what/ how to submit things for nomination. I know there was at least one season where Whedon himself said he boned it up in the submission area and that's what happened. I *think* it was for "Once More..."
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I loved the first season of My Name is Earl...stopped watching about halfway through the second season....Man that show got off the rails quick!! There are only so many ways you can do the same joke over and over again, and I think they must've run out.
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30 Rock doesn't get enough love. I think they had one episdoe this year that left me thinking they whiffed on their three swings, but most of the time that show hits for the cycle. My favorite line of the year from Lemon's boyfriend...."The New York City firefighter test is biased against the Irish." adn the all time best in the background on Lemon's radio...."A tornado hit Detroit and put out a lot of fires." Genius.
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I seriously could give a stinky shit which shows win or don't win Emmys. The spectacle of winning an Emmy is fun for the show's makers, I'm sure, and brings their project industry benefits, but for me as a fan it matters not a lick.
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Jun 28, 2008 9:21:32 AM CDT
Let me be your 411 on the actors' semifinal 10 this weekend...
by pennsy
And a name has leaked out from the voting panels - Bryan Cranston of Breaking Bad in Best Drama Actor.
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Even if I were to take at face value that the show had a so-so season, a so-so BSG still runs up the score on The Tudors, Damages, Boston Legal, and Grey's.
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I don't understand why people clearly lie and say they watched every episode of BSG and hate it. So you have some problem with it and then say you've watched it all just so it seems like your criticism is justified? If you think it sucks why would you keep watching it? It's okay to not like something you saw once, just say you saw it once and didn't like it. It is really obvious that you are bullshiting when you talk trash and say "and I have watched every episode", because clearly you haven't. I for one think it is one of the best shows I have ever seen, but I will HONESTLY say that I am only on season 3 and havent seen any of 4. So I won't say whether or not it deserves a nomination because I have nothing to back that opinion up. I am guessing I would think it does, because I love it, but again I won't because I just don't know. Honesty guys, be honest, you are commenting on a god damn website. Grow up, you don't need to act like you are an expert on everything if you're not.
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Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the show--so much so I think it frightens other people who just can't "get" how I could like it so much--but season 4 was a plummet in terms of quality. If it does get nominated, it will be for the last two episodes alone (which where amazing, some of the best the show has done yet). The preceding episodes were a massive misfire. The "survivor" doctor elimination arc dragged on far, far too long, threw the show into a conceptual tail-dive, and muddled each episode with so many extra characters and sub-plots that the show's driving premise, House and his mysteries, took an unwelcome backseat.
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Jun 28, 2008 12:42:57 PM CDT
Oh, and Hugh Laurie deserves best dramatic actor this year. . .
by jimmay
Just like the last three years. Sadly, just like the last three years, he'll be denied. At least Sopranos won't spoil the race for everyone this year just so everyone can wish it a fond farewell, and ignore the fact that it had long ago peaked and ebbed.
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No buys!
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Entourage is like a male version of Sex in the City, only more shallow, if that's possible. This season 30 Rock turned into one of the great TV comedies of all time. No shit.
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Transmetropolitan, sorry to burst your bubble, but people don't need to "clearly lie" in order to not think that BSG is an example of great story telling. I continue to watch this train wreck because science fiction is my favorite genre and there simply isn't very many scifi series to choose from on television.
I thought that the BSG miniseries was a little boring, but the Sharon reveal at the end was intriguing and made me want to tune in for season one. I LOVED season one and consider it to be close to perfect for a television season. I enjoyed it more than, for example, my first viewing of season one of my favorite science fiction series, Babylon 5. Season one of BSG was award winning material, IMO.
I like most of BSG season two, but I had problems with it. Most notably, I don't think that they spent enough time to setting up the "religious prophecy" aspect of the story and as a result those aspects often came across as a somewhat cheap story gimmick to move things along instead of feeling like a more natural progression of story telling. Plus, the higher episode count of season two unfortunately resulted in more filler than the lean season one. I still enjoyed the season, but not as much as season one.
Except for Bill Adama's pornstar mustache (this show's answer to Lorne Greene's beard in Galactica 1980, I guess) and Lee Adama's fat suit, I even liked the first few episodes of season three. The Galactica must have been required to plot its course around a large, finned object when it did the FTL atmo jump at the end of the "New Caprica" arc, though, because things really started their downward spiral for me in the very next episode. There have been a lot of cool moments since then, but not very much sustained quality story telling. The show has become a series of cool CGI effects tied together by overly pretentious story telling, illogical character actions and motivations, and unlikely plot points. There wasn't even any real setup for the "big reveal" of four of the final five Cylons at the end of season three (I won't spoil their identities for you since you may not have gotten that far, yet). Show creator Ronald Moore said in an interview that he didn't pick those four until shortly before the reveal ( http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.stm ). You can't go back and watch the previous two-and-a-half-plus seasons and see that part of the "drama" unfold because nothing was set up that would implicate those four characters. The basically random reveal of the four was handled poorly in a dumb episode at the end of what had become a crap season of television.
For me, the episodes of season four thus far aired have continued down the same broken path traveled by most of season three. From the pointless ("Razor"), to the weird (invisible in-head Six physically picking up Baltar in front of people), to the illogical (the Cylon's single-point-of-failure rebirth hub architecture), and continuing to the odd mid-season finale when the Galactica's crew doesn't even think of scanning for life forms, radiation signatures, or for communication broadcasts before going somewhere (again, I won't really spoil things since you haven't seen it), this season (and series) has become a textbook example of failed story telling and missed opportunities.
Now, obviously, all of that is my opinion and can't be argued as fact (well it is fact that Ron Moore pulled the final four out of his @$$). Everyone enjoys things differently, and if you like this show then more power to you. But, someone doesn't have to "clearly lie" in order to express an opinion that is contrary to your opinion. -
I always get confused as to what qualifies for the emmy season. The run where Earl was in prison was fantastic, and the job he got before prison was also pretty good despite a terrible run before it, but I stopped watching the Earl in a coma/sit-com and even when I checked back after the coma the show was still bad. That show can go from great to horrible and back again pretty quick, but it shouldn't be rewarded when it dumps so much shit each season.
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Ashok0, while I disagree with your assessment, thank you for your facts... I mean your opinion.
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to get to the tootsie-roll center of an emmy award?
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Callis and Hogan. But we'll get to see the umpteenth nomination for James fucking Spader for dressing down the Supreme Court (BL's series submission was The Court Supreme) and William Shatner farting throughout the episode.
Boston Legal sucks a cow's cock. -
That is all.
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I mean, "Battlestar Galactica" will be remembered as one of the best television shows of all time with or without a stupid trophy to show for it.
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A sitcom that draws a single digit Nielsen rating but no love for SOUTH PARK? ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT was cancelled--zip renewal, zero ratings--but somehow 30 ROCK (sub-zero ratings) survives. And I think Tina Fey is the new millennium's Nancy Kulp.
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As soon as the buzz started after the first half of season one, it felt like Tina Fey and the writers knew they were cool or something and that definitely showed in the second sucky ass season 2 which had only one decent episode. If they win anything it will only get worse because Tina Fey is coming off like a real media whore and to top it off she can't even deliver her lines with a straight face.
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It's about 100x better than any of the nominees in the comedy category
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The shows are startlingly similar in some facets. Yes, South Park has shown its capacity to be much smarter entertainment, but for every brilliant satirical episode of South Park, there's just as many "Shit on X Celebrity" or "Fart Joke" episodes.
Matt and Trey have become comedy elitists because they don't realize how often they cling to lowest common denominator comedy and how uneven the quality of South Park is.
When an entire episode is devoted to Cartman pretending his hand is J.Lo, I don't think you should be allowed to talk shit.
And for the record, before Family Guy came back from the dead, it was a hilarious show. I know it's trendy to hate (and with the shit poor quality of the new episodes, it's not surprising), but once upon a time that show really had a lot going for it.
That's it. And as for the list above, I hope Curb Your Enthusiasm finally gets the recognition it deserves. -
Anyone have any idea when Season 4 is coming out on DVD? Are they going to split it like they did Season 2? I don't want to wait until the end of 2009 or 2010 to own it. To all you BSG haters, go suck Spock's cock!
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Leon also deserves at least a nomination for best supporting actor in a comedy. He added quite a bit of the spark to a great revived season.
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Newark Star Ledger blog, and here's what he had to say about yesterday's screenings in alphabetical order of the drama series semifinal 10:
"At least a 3rd of the group was old, and I'm pretty no more than one or two panelists were under 35."
"Old people seem actively disinterested in urban drug dealers (The Wire) and spurting blood (Dexter, House)."
"After watching 9 other dramas, the last thing anyone wants to do is watch a 75-minute series finale of The Wire, even those of us who love the show. (Today's panels screened in alphabetical order, tomorrow's will reverse it.) Besides the onset of deep vein thrombosis, panelists unfamiliar with the show will just scratch their heads at the final appearances of Michael, Cheese, Carver and many, many others."
"They're still screening on beta SP. Memo to the Academy: it's long past time for HD screeners."
Looks like The Wire and Dexter are toast, if we're to take this panelist at face value. -
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Emmy voters should be locked into a room and forced to watch season box sets. If a show gets nominated in its 3rd season, they should be forced to watch every season if they haven't already so they know what the fuck is going on and they understand the meaning and emotional impact of the otherwise random scenes they are watching. This is particularly true with shows ending and doing callbacks to earlier seasons. You really can't watch most of today's best shows by just jumping on board. Sure you can watch a CSI type show and follow the mystery, but both of Dexter's seasons are a complete story from first episode to season finale, and you really need to see Season 1 to get Season 2. I can't even imagine what you would get if you just tried to jump into Lost. Even comedies like Arrested Development and Curb are like that now, where many jokes come from callbacks to previous episodes and if you just jump in you will never "get it". Part of what makes the shows on now so great compared to TV from the 80s is that the shows actually go someplace. Characters actually grow, and stories actually evolve. Emmy voters lose out on that when they see a couple of episodes a year, and they're really doing a disservice to their job as an emmy voter.
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Good show? Yes. Funnier than Entourage? Fuck no!
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I agree with the talkbacker who always points it it is just a shallower version of Sex in the City for boys.
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Pushing Daisies is a comedy? Yeah, I guess, I just don't think of it that way. It's more like an adventure. Still I love it very much so I'd be shocked to see it win. As for drama's I'm also surprised to see Dexter up there, but it is a near perfect show. All of my favorites shows have at least a few episodes I don't care for but I can't say that about Dexter. I loved every single episode. And even though it did decline a bit in season 2, my excitement for it actually increased during that time. The Wire is a fine show and it would be nice to see it win. I guess I wouldn't say it had any bad episodes, it just didn't always excite me like Lost (which finally made a S4 comeback) or Dexter.
MisterE already nailed the decline of BSG perfectly. I agree with every point he made. And B5 was a great counter-example on how to do an arc right. Despite a little cheesiness, no show has ever been more faithful to it's arc. And all of these new arc-driven shows that people love here owe their very existence to B5s success. B5 was up there with Farscape as the best Sci-fi ever, IMO. There are only a handful of people here who will even defend BSG anymore, despite there being a time when everybody loved it.
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Anyone who claims that "MILF Island" is unwatchable no longer has a relevant opinion. The last half of 30 Rock's season was some of the show's best work. The season in general was superior to any other show on that list, comedy-wise, though the last 2 minutes of the Curb finale deserve special mention.
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