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A truly lucky and blessed bastard has seen THE DARK KNIGHT and damn... I'm so frickin' jealous!

Published at: June 25, 2008, 2:38 a.m. CST

Hey folks, Harry here... On the other side of WALL*E... for me the film I'm geekin' hardest for is THE DARK KNIGHT. I watch the TV spots relentlessly. The new glimpses at Heath's performance are both hearthbreaking & illuminating. And every nuance of that performance feels like a revelation.... and I absolutely can't see a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen. This review avoids major spoilers but does reveal the basic framework - so if you don't like to know a thing... why'd you even click here. The word is... the film is GREAT. You can leave now. But if you can't - nothing major will be destroyed for your virginal screening romp... BTW - most IMAX theaters are selling their midnight screening tickets - I bought my tickets - did you?

Hi Harry and the rest of the crew, Just after watching The Dark Knight. I see no reviews are online so I thought Id send you my review. Ive kept this review as spoiler free as possible as I dont want to ruin anything like someone did recently with another Christian Bale movie!!! Ill start by saying that I was a fan of Batman Begins and am a huge admirer of Christopher Nolan's body of work. I had my faults with BB mainly to do with how they shot and edited the fight sequences but felt it was a great start to a much larger story and I jumped with joy when Gordan pulled out the Joker card at the end. The Dark Knight opens with a bank heist sequence that highlights how the joker is always one step ahead of the criminals he is working with and the police who are after him. Numerous men break into a bank controlled by the mob wearing clown masks and comment on how The Joker has put the whole thing together. This is the catalyst for which the rest of the events in this movie takes place. The heist does not go to plan well at least not for all the gang. Its a great set up and payoff and a unique way of introducing the ace in TDK'S whole or in this case its Joker. Heath Ledgers performance of the joker is truly one for the books. A man of no remorse or morals who simply wants to see things burn. There is no back story or establishing the character. He is fully formed. He does have some dialogue scenes that reveal a bit of his background. Lets just say he has some issues with his father and that smile of his is rooted in a gesture of love. He is far from a caricature and has depth . He realises that without Batman he would not be. The Joker is almost more of a terrorist than criminal. He is not motivated by money. He wants to see people suffer. Its a damn shame that this was Heath Ledger's final major performance as it shows a whole different side to him as a performer and I now know that he was endlessly talented. To watch him walk away from an exploding hospital dressed as a nurse is probably my favourite moment Ive seen on film so far this year. Also look out for when he makes a pencil disappear such a cool moment! Best supporting Oscar anyone? Gotham is still engulfed by crime. Falcone's reign as the head of the mob is over and that seat has been filled by Salvatore Maroni played by Eric Roberts. What becomes clear is that there are also numerous other gangs within Gotham. Its no longer just one syndicate. They are all in some way in cohoots but the arrival of Batman has made it harder for them to operate. Batman has inspired the city officials particularly Harvey Dent. The DA for Gotham city. This is really his story. The rise and fall of the white knight. He is Bruce Wayne's hope for Gotham City. A hero who doesn't have to wear a mask. A man who can inspire hope in the masses. If BB was about fear then TDK is about hope and is relevant in today's times. Harvey Dent is a good honest man who is willing to bear the weight of bringing down all the criminals on his shoulders and what that means for his own life and those he loves. In terms of his transition to Two Face all I will say is that everything online that Ive seen is fake. The moment we first see him in hospital when Harvey Dent asks Gordan what his nickname used to be in Internal Affairs and Gordan says Harvey Two Face and Harvey turns to him . Such a clever way of establishing the character. Even down to his double sided coin. Lets just say Aaron Eckhart puts Tommy Lee Jones to friggin shame! The film feels more like a crime drama in a grand city scape than a typical comic book movie. It feels like Heat except Batman is Al Pacino and The Joker is Robert De Niro and just like in that film we have a great scene between Heath Ledger and Christian Bale across a table. There is also an element of a Greek Tragedy.. There is a vast sense of morality at play within the film. Dent is trying to bring down the criminals and wants to bring them in under a RICO charge. To do this he needs Batman's help as he has to bring in the man who takes care of all their money. A glorified accountant as Rachel Dawes puts it.Think Al Capones accountant in the Untouchables. So Batman ventures to Hong Kong. It adds to the idea that this is very much set in the real world and its not just Gotham that Batman can access. This all happens within the first third of the film. The run time is two and a half hours. It doesn't feel that long as there is so much going on within the film. Ive always felt Christopher Nolan was able to handle pacing unlike many movies that are over two hours these days. This is also his first entirely linear film and he proves himself to be a gifted storyteller and a master of utilising film as a visual medium. He fills each frame with so much scope and detail. You can tell he is enjoying himself with the amount of money he is being allowed to play with and wants to better himself and the franchise. Although this movie doesn't feel like an instalment in a franchise. The best thing I can think of for comparison is The Godfather Part 2. There is no sign of the Batcave in this film. Although Alfred does make mention of it saying how he looks forward to it being finished. Bruce now lives in a pretty sweet penthouse apartment and his new batcave is in an underground layer in the docks. Bruce and Lucious Fox have been working on the suit and toys although to my surprise the Batpod was in BB and nobody spotted it. It'll put a smile on your face when it makes its introduction. Christian Bale owns this role. He is Bruce Wayne and he is Batman. He is also a third character in some regards as there are almost two sides to Bruce Wayne. The public figure, a playboy billionaire who knows how to spend his money and the Bruce Wayne behind closed doors who only Alfred and Rachel get to see. A man covered in bruises and wounds who desperately wants be free of Batman but is compelled to make a difference as no one else can. He can play the villain to be the hero as he does. The second third focuses on the capturing of The Joker. The city is living in fear as he makes threats on national television that he always follows through with. You simple have no idea what he will do next. There appears to be no reason to his madness although that proves to not be the case. I don't really want to give away anymore. I will say there is death but not in the way some of the fan boys who have watched the trailer are thinking. There is a prestige moment within the film that is a true Chris Nolan moment. The scarecrow is in the film but has a very minor role. Just go see it on opening day in a room full of fans. Ill be doing the same and have no doubt Ill enjoy it even more the second time round. Enjoy. Tim Bisley

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  • June 25, 2008, 2:39 a.m. CST

    First!

    by TheAtomicCow

    Woo Hoo!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Tread softly Nolan, you tread on my dreams

    by IndustryKiller!

    It really sounds like this is gonna actually come together to create something truly amazing. i cannot remember the last time I had these kinds of expectations for a genre film. Let alone a sequel to a film I wasn't really in love with. July 18th can't get here fast enough.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Second!!!

    by odo19

    Whoo!! Hooo!!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    IDONTWANNAREAD

    by Fineus Fog

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  • June 25, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    I want to know the running time

    by lavatory love machine

    some people have said 165 minutes

  • June 25, 2008, 2:45 a.m. CST

    lavatory love machine

    by Stollentroll

    Reading - have you heard of it?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Stollen Troll

    by lavatory love machine

    the guys says 2 and a half hours, that could 135 minutes, 145 minutes, 165 minutes, it also depends on usually 10 minutes of end credits and that you never know if they are including that or not

  • June 25, 2008, 2:52 a.m. CST

    I heard it was 152 minutes

    by Ditch Brodie

    But I guess we shall see.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST

    JEALOUS

    by Errockk

    Really, I am.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    I've just cum in my own mouth. Soooo excited!!!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    This film will be THE film of the decade!!! Cannot wait!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    ooo

    by red_weed

    i was hoping for a return of scarecrow, i felt like they just set up his character in this film but he never got a chance to do anything as scarecrow

  • June 25, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Godfather 2 eh?

    by ChiefRoberts

    This film, motherfucker's, is gonna be special!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    i just want

    by juice willis

    one scene with a bruised, bandaged bruce wayne tooling with some test tubes while he deduces something in an ingenious way.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:08 a.m. CST

    That review was HORRIBLY written.

    by mr_macphisto

    Having said that, this move still sounds badass.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:08 a.m. CST

    holy shit.

    by theBigWasted

    that's all i can say. please please please please please please please please please please please please please live up to my expectations. godfather 2? heat? jesus. let wall-e and the dark knight be two of the best films ever made. let the summer of 08 be one to speak of for evermore. amen.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:10 a.m. CST

    okay

    by whatyoufear

    this "review" reveals nothing new. anyone following the development of the dark knight could have written this shit half drunk. what a waste of time.. shame on you for posting this bullshit.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    sounds fantastic

    by tomdolan04

    and cannot wait to see this on IMAX. <p> I'm curious - when a fairly non-specific review like this comes in (good and well written) surely they have to provide you with proof of how and when the screening went down, even if that info isn't published? <p> There isn't really any information in the review that couldn't be cribbed from the endless promos released for this bad boy. <p> Bring it on regardless.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Godfather 2?

    by Lost Jarv

    Hold on a fucking second. Let's rein ourselves in a bit. While I am positive that this will be good, that's a pretty big claim.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Good sweet christ

    by Virtual Satyr

    Just when I thought I couldn't get more jacked up for this movie..bam, I read this review. JULY 18th NEEDS TO GET HERE FAST!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    This is pretty much unbelievable. It seems AICN is more focused on the cred of having had published the very first internet review of TDK than actually showing us fans something that ANY SINGLE ONE OF US could have sent in to Harry THREE MONTHS AGO.. seriously.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:24 a.m. CST

    the review isnt that badly written...

    by themagus

    at least i dont think it was? anyway...there's a new Batman movie? another comic book movie? jaw breaking yawn.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    when do Catwoman & Poison Ivy appear...

    by Boomers_Lips

    in one of those Batman REBOOT movies?? Uma Thurman should play her role of Poison Ivy again. Jessica Biel as the new Catwoman!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Rachel McAdams or Amy Adams as the new Catwoman!

    by Boomers_Lips

    YES!!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    just saw Batman Forever last night on TBS...

    by Boomers_Lips

    Nicole Kidman was kind of hot as Dr. Chase Meridian.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I'll be the first. FAKE

    by the_scream

    Was there anything in the review that we don't already know??

  • June 25, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST

    what

    by ragingdrunklove

    this review is just repeating things that have been known for ages....i really dont buy it. the only "new" thing is the joker backstory idea, which i dont buy either.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    and...

    by tomdolan04

    if you'd been online saw no full reviews were on the ENTIRE internets, you'd be at least a little savvy to the cynicsm and drop in non-specific spoilers such as 'the scene that follows the bank is X, with Y and Z as a few lines of dialogue that havent been included in the trailers'. <p> The whole 'i dont want to spoil it for you' is a fair point, but just to say 'It was great' over several paragraphs isn't far removed from just saying 'IT WAS AWESOME' and nothing else. <p> And that would just be a bus load of daftness...

  • June 25, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    this "review" is anal wind

    by Prossor

    pieced together from other coverage and saying this shit is great (godfather 2? thats fucking hilaroius!)

  • June 25, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Rose McGowan (yea her) as Harley Quinn in the new Batman movie!

    by Boomers_Lips

    she is a hottie!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    L.A. screening THURSDAY!

    by UMAGA

    "Super secret" according to Attack of the Show's Olivia Munn. So secretive she told everyone!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST

    FAKE

    by darth_hideous

    This is fake, and the "new" stuff mentioned is just lifted (poorly) from the review posted in the Rotten Tomatoes forum

  • June 25, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST

    give this man a job

    by hoisin

    a better review than Harry's recent dick suck fests...

  • June 25, 2008, 3:57 a.m. CST

    proof that review is a fake...

    by pradeep1980

    In the latest Issue of Empire Magazine the film is described as being the Heat of comic book movies where Batman and Joker are the Pacino and De Niro characters. This is just a pieced together review with very little specific info - hence it is marketed as "spoiler free" which basically means they haven't seen it and are generalising based on numerous pieces of info about the film that we already know.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    something new that was mentioned

    by two fathoms deep

    ...was two face not looking like anything online. of course, he didn't say one word about what he DOES look like. i guess we'll all know sometime around 2am on the 18th.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    I know the running time of any film is...

    by depalma25

    not very important. But I'm relieved to see that we're not given another "Incredible Hulk" where the character developement isn't left on the cutting room floor in sacrifrice for action. Many consider Spider Man 2 the best comic book adaptation so far. Some feel Iron Man got just about everything right. Well, I'm predicting folks that the Dark Knight will be not just a good "superhero" or "comicbook" movie, but a god damn cinematic masterpiece.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Oh God......

    by Han Cholo

    I hope some idiot doesn't make comparisons to Empire Strikes Back. I remember everyone saying Spiderman 2 was the equivalent to ESB. Sadly, no film has touched either ESB or Godfather 2. I'm just expecting to see a great movie.

  • So I'm guessing the Joker has some sort of clone. Thanks :(

  • June 25, 2008, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Plant

    by James Westfall

    And this version of the Joker has little to do with the 'real' Joker. I'll pass.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:49 a.m. CST

    FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE

    by Mike_D

    The film only screened once so far and that was to a room full of studio execs last month (otherwise there would be a shit load of reviews online by now). Half of this review was taken from shit that we already know and have seen in the trailers (not to mention fanboy speculation). Even "the 3 sides of bruce wayne" was taken from what Christian Bale said about the character back in 2005. FAKE.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    "Aaron Eckhart puts Tommy Lee Jones to friggin shame!"

    by Mike_D

    I dont know, thats some pretty big expectations to live up to... <br> bwhahaha.

  • June 25, 2008, 5 a.m. CST

    Imax - Woo Hoo!

    by masteryoda007

    I just booked my tickets for the for the 23rd of July at the Imax in Glasgow......hell yeah!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:18 a.m. CST

    "a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen."???

    by Windowlicker74

    hearthbreaking?? Harry please hire some one who can write to do your job for you

  • June 25, 2008, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Harry has written his glowing review already...

    by Merriman Lyon

    WITHOUT having seen the movie....but I'm going to wait till I see the movie before I judge it. So far, the signs point to a few problems, namely:<p>1. The approach they've taken with trying to set it in the 'real' world - a big mistake; it didn't work in the first film. It just makes the movie tedious.<p>2.Batman Begins had a few good ideas and some good moments, but overall was like watching paint dry. The Dark Knight is made by the same people.<p>From the trailers, Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker is over-acted and otherwise unremarkable. He's giving exactly the kind of performance I would expect from ANY actor playing a supervillian in a comic book movie. No more, no less.<p>This reviewer compares The Dark Knight to 'Heat' - one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Like Batman Begins, it's an over-long, pointless movie that's like watching paint dry. I wish Harry would tone down his own hype and take a balanced view of these movies.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Merriman Lyon how does it feel

    by the_scream

    To be one of the small minority of people who aren't looking forward to TDK? Must suck for you. :)

  • June 25, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    I think it's real

    by lb

    and I am very excited to see this movie although I do think people's expectations are way too high

  • June 25, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Like the review;

    by joergn

    and all those trashtalkers can die trying to come up with something constructive at least for once in their miserable, shiteating lives!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    ha, godfather 2, expectations, etc.

    by foree forehead

    first one was horrible. weepy synth-strings and liam neeson spouting vacuous profundities atop a snowy mountain does not make you kurosawa for fuck's sake. i'd rather watch something campy like robocop instead of this rubbish. comic book fans, broaden your horizons please or else we'll keep getting this mediocre, uninspired drudgery. won't be watching this one after the terrible batman begins.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Wow Merriman- do you get excited about anything

    by Lost Jarv

    you're one misreable bastard. Seriously, are you a traffic warden?

  • June 25, 2008, 5:59 a.m. CST

    that reminds me

    by Lost Jarv

    FREE XIPHOS! <P>and ban Memories. Memories is a cock. Xiphos isn't.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Must be a fake because...

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    ...the writer mentions how much he dsliked the fight sequences in Batman Begins, then completely fails to address how Nolan tackles them in The Dark Knight. If that was your ONE issue with a movie you would comment on how it was addressed in a sequel. Unless you had pieced your review together from an issue of Empire Magazine, interviews with the actors and what's available online. This is bullshit...still can't wait for the movie, though.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Reading Merriman's post

    by Virtual Satyr

    is like watching pain dry.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:11 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by palewook

    we speak your name.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Why is it that people who get to see films early can't write?

    by Trazadone

    Seriously, does anyone go to school? Christ, I'm always so embarrassed for people. This was so poorly written that I couldn't get through it. Also, despite stating that this was a spoiler-free review it was clear that he was giving a book report (e.g., "And then this happened. And then this happened"). Harry, just because someone sees something first does not necessarily mean that you have to post poorly written prose. Have some standards.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    This is a review or a synopsis??

    by quamb

    Shit.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    surprise, surprise....Merriman doesn't like

    by just pillow talk

    yet more films.<p>Duck-men from Mars!<p>FREE XIPHOS!

  • June 25, 2008, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Sounds good

    by bellwether

    I cannot wait to see this. Not too many spoilers either. I could barely make it through the review though: the ace in the whole; helpless punctuation cast screaming into the void; the brutal torture of innocent sentence structure. Wouldn't you at least run it past someone literate before posting it in public? Sorry dude, but it's true. Maybe in future AICN could post a version that's edited for clarity so my eyes don't bleed all over my keyboard.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Merrimen - Why so serious?? Ha ha.

    by HarryBlackPotter

  • June 25, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    This is not a review...

    by Lemming

    it's a plot synopsis. One day AICN may figure out the difference...

  • June 25, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Jarv - 2for2true sightings

    by just pillow talk

    Threads 37202 (at the 12:45:38 PM mark, 6/24) and 37204 (at the 12:43:59 PM mark, 6/24). And POOF!....he's gone!

  • June 25, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Spoiler free reviews don't get better than this

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    It sounds like to give a more in depth review he'd have to give away too much of the plot. This gives us a good taste of what is to come. Well done.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Glued from trailers, leaks, rumors...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...and some guesses of the, uh, "viewer" who sent this. I don't follow all news on this movie - still waiting for a Joker as good as Jack Nicholson's, because Marilyn Manson in a coat is certainly not the Joker, and while sheep may believe so, the fact remains that the death of any actor who plays any character does not magically and automatically improve said character in any way - but I'll bet 99% of what this guy writes can be found online. <p>Method #3 of writing fake reviews: "I will not mention any spoilers in this review..." (because I don't know any)

  • June 25, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    I saw him pillows

    by Lost Jarv

    he tends to pop up in coaxial, share some true words of changian wisdom and then bugger off.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    What did he say, he wouldn't put too many spoilers in?

    by Dragon Man

    Geez, don't ruin it for everyone. That had more spoilers than most of the reviews I see on here.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Yawn

    by brobdingnag

    "The film feels more like a crime drama in a grand city scape than a typical comic book movie" Exactly why I won't be paying to see this. The first film was poorly paced and boring as hell. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    once of these days he will respond to a warciple

    by just pillow talk

    and when that day comes, the heavens will open up and a golden light will encompass all of us....

  • June 25, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST

    one, not once

    by just pillow talk

    Forgive me my lord 2for2true....

  • June 25, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    So the Joker kills Rachel Dawes? No wonder Katie Holmes didn't c

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    Egads!

  • June 25, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST

    The review was fine

    by cripeman

    I got alot of info I hadn't seen before. good job

  • June 25, 2008, 7:08 a.m. CST

    ***WARNING*** DARK KNIGHT SPOILERS ***WARNING***

    by That 70s Venom

    ***WARNING. I AM WARNING YOU RIGHT FUCKING NOW. DO NOT READ BELOW THIS IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE DARK KNIGHT SPOILED FOR YOU. THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT.*** Rachel Dawes dies. The Joker dies. Two-Face dies. Batman and Alfred cry like babies while hugging each other. Jim Gordon kills Two-Face. Batman kills The Joker after The Joker learns his identity and threatens Alfred's life. The Joker drops Rachel Dawes out of a window but she only breaks one leg and both arms but then the Joker stabs her in the heart (literally) later right in front of Batman. Bat Girl is introduced (sort of, it's actually Barbara Gordon, Jim's daughter, but no mention of Bat Girl really). Clayface is introduced at the very end of the film in a very strange way so he will probably be the main villain in the 3rd film. There is an actor on TV who has a "bizarre skin reaction" to a cosmetic skin cream which made his hands "like melted caramel" according to a doctor's report. That's about it, folks. The movie fuckin rocked. If you can see it in IMAX, THEN GO FUCKING SEE IT IN IMAX!!! THE ACTION SCENES ARE FUCKING BRILLIANT!!! Best movie of the year by far.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Brobdingnag

    by JimBobCooter

    Shame on you indeed. ;-) <p> I won't argue over the merits of BB. But to say Nolan's movies aren't intense and engrossing is missing something spectacular. <p> I watched Batman 1989 again and Nolan's scope is just so vast. In the previous Batmans you can see soundstages and perfectly lit chase sequences with no suspense whatsoever. And I think Nolan's realism fits Batman more than other superheroes because he has no super powers and is just trying to make Gotham better one criminal at a time.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Godfather 2

    by JimBobCooter

    And it's funny that in the same breath the "synopsiser" says this is Nolan's first linear movie -- and then compares it to Godfather 2, which is nothing but flashbacks. I guess he means there is similarity with Al Pacino's intrigue portion, but that's funny to me.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:18 a.m. CST

    LMAO! Mike D

    by MRJONZ72

    I was kinda thinking the same thing when I saw that in the review.. I was like um putting Tommy Lee Jones version of Two Face to shame...I dont think that would the hardest thing to do.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Anthony Michael Hall

    by ciroslive

    Do we have confirmation yet on who plays in the movie or is that a spoiler?

  • June 25, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Godfather 2?

    by RedHHades

    As if the original Batman was anything close to Godfather... gimme a laugh please. It was good, not great, I still trying to figure out what Ken Watanabe was doing in it and why... what a waste. Maybe this one is great, but I think that because of Ledgers's death judgement on it will be always a bit biased. Even if his performance is lesser than Nicholson's, people will always give him more credit than for the former. Early death has that strange effect, to transform people in more than they really were. Whatever.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Heath Ledger will get the Best Actor Oscar posthumously

    by That 70s Venom

    for this film. He had some huge balls to approach this role the way he did. Fucking amazing performance... one of the best I've ever seen honestly. He is the very definition of insanity.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    So I guess we can expect

    by Series7

    Sofia Nolan in Batman Begins with a Vengence?

  • June 25, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Just a thought. . .

    by @gape

    I am a die-hard for continuity. I hate when series recast; it seems almost better to write a character out. If the Dark Knight turns out to be an exceptional film, does anyone think Nolan should remove Katie Holmes from the original film? Should they refilm the scenes between Christian and Maggie. I mean, really, how many scenes were there between the two characters of Bruce and Rachel. Or digitally replace Katie with Maggie, via the George Lucas "Sebastian Shaw" technique? Your thoughts?

  • June 25, 2008, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Some people just want to sit back...

    by bingcrosbyb

    and watch the Dark Knight crash and burn. Like me.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Yack - because that's what he does

    by just pillow talk

    And may I ask why you would wish such a thing bingcrosbyb? Let me guess: because this doesn't fit your "vision" as to what Batman should be like?

  • June 25, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Hong Kong, eh? Maybe Batman will compete in the Olympics?

    by Rickey Henderson

    Overall, this sounds fun--there's definitely a whole lot more to this movie than the trailers have shown us... Not sure where all the vitriol comes from: it's a goddamned Batman movie people, get with the program already people.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Ugh... I don't want to tell you too much but...

    by MJAYACE

    Let me explain the whole friggin story to you! I agree this review was crappy. How about a "the movie was exceptional, and doesn't suffer the tired sequel syndrome of so many other films"?

  • June 25, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    "Vision" of Batman...

    by Otter

    To respond to "just pillow talk", "new" is not always BETTER. Just because this "vision" of the Joker is new, it doesn't mean it's better. This Joker is a terrorist, and doesn't resemble ANY previous incarnation of the Joker in film, animation, or comics. I don't want the Cesar Romero Joker, and I don't want the Nicholson Joker, even though both of these Jokers had "roots" in their original comic persona. I actually LIKE the visual "look" of this Joker, but I have a MAJOR issue with the "applied" makeup and no backstory for the character. If Nolan wanted to have "Ichi The Killer" in the movie, he should have created a totally new character with no reference to a standard & canon Batman character. I'll probably see this movie, but as a download or bootleg: I don't intend on giving WB, Nolan, or DC any of my money for fucking with my well-loved characters.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    when will we learn?

    by fireclown

    I want to keep my dreams and expectations low for this one, I really do. But I just can't. It's part of our nature in the information age, I guess. We build up movies beyond all reality, and bitch about them forever after. Even the ones we love. Heck, I still biatch about some of the LOTR stuff. And I'm still right. There wasn't no elves at helms deep.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    TDK Spoilers

    by preacherhunter

    Okay.......I have a very good inside source who has seen a 98% complete cut of The Dark Knight and has given me some key plot points.......read ahead at your own risk....... spoliers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . In my contact's honest opinion the film will satisfy just about every fan of the first film. It develops the themes of Batman Begins logically and earnestly. Here are the key points: 1. Joker's plan is to "kill Batman" as he opines in the trailers we've seen......but his greater plan is not to just kill Batman but discredit him as a crimefighter. Law enforcement's trust of Batman, and specifically Gordon's relationship with the Dark Knight is the reason that organized crime is on the ropes at the start of the film. Joker begins to discredit Batman, not only by openly attacking him, but creating Two-Face. Two-Face goes on a murderous rampage in this film, brutally murdering many of the crimelords that hired the Joker. By the end of the film, law enforcement, and Gordon, no longer trust Batman or any vigilantes, and Gordon's fear of escalation rings true. 2. Many have asked why bring back Rachel Dawes? Rachel is Wayne's only connection to a normal life and the happy memories of his childhood before his family's death. SPOILER: Joker kills Rachel Dawes by tossing her off a rooftop when he discovers her connection to Batman (though he never discovers that Wayne is Batman, he does figure there is some connection through doing his homework on the events from the first film.) Wayne, as Batman, tries to save her in freefall (as was done heavily in the Burton/Schumacher films) but is unsuccessful, this crushes Wayne and by the end of the film, he contemplates giving up the mantle of the Bat for good, which brings us to point three...... 3. We discover, very late in the film, that Dawes has a cousin.....Richard Grayson, who lost his parents early in life in a freak accident and sees Dawes as a parent figure. Dawes' death serves as a catalyst that will drive him toward becoming a vigilante. Supposedly, the third film will focus on Wayne as he takes Grayson under his wing in hopes of healing and preventing him from making the same mistake.........(this is the big Spoiler not on display in anyway in the trailers) The film is likened to Empire Strikes Back. It is the middle part of a trilogy. At its conclusion, Wayne/Batman is on the ropes, Gotham doesn't have a defender, and Joker is still on the loose. How they will handle Ledger's absence in the next film has not been determined, but the discussions surrounding the third film deal with healing (Gotham's and Wayne's) and reconciling Batman as a vigilante and a hero. As I said.....read at your own risk.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    indeed Yack...

    by Rickey Henderson

    ...the bickering is beyond comprehension. Here's how it breaks down:<br> <br> I HATE BATMAN! why do you hate Batman? BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE LOVES IT! maybe there's a reason for that...? NO, EVERYONE IS WRONG BUT ME! er, why is that? BECAUSE I AM A BEAUTIFUL SNOWFLAKE WITH ORIGINAL OPINIONS ON THE SUBJECT OF MEN WHO DRESS UP LIKE GIANT BATS!

  • June 25, 2008, 8:16 a.m. CST

    "I don't intend on giving WB, Nolan, or DC any of my money for f

    by Silverglade

    Well I guess anytime anyone makes a film adaptation or interpretation of any comic, someone out there's beloved characters are being fucked with.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait!!!

    by LaserPants

    Gotham Knight should tide me over till then.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    preacherhunter

    by @gape

    Preacherhunter, thanks for the scoop! We'll see if it pans out that way. However, I still have concerns with the Rachel Dawes character. I do not fault Nolan for keeping her character, but I do think he needs to re-edit Batman Begins for continuity's sake. There will be little emotional connection to her death because we are so used to seeing Katie Holmes in that role. (In fact, some people might even cheer for her death, which is probably not the response Nolan wants for the audience.) Hence, my original point of reshooting.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Batman goes to Hong Kong?

    by Slippy

    Does he order the Cream of Sum Yung Guy??? HAW, HAW, HAW!!! Ladies and gentlemen, try the veal!

  • June 25, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Hey, reviewer guy.

    by Mosquito March

    If you're on the level, tell us if there is an improvement in the fight scenes. You pointed that out as one of the things you didn't like about BB, and then didn't say a word about the action in TDK in your review.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Batman Presige moment. . . .

    by krullboyisback

    David Bowie makes an appearance as a 115 year old Nicola Tesla, Batman's next foe in the 3rd film

  • June 25, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    sarah jane dunn...

    by zom-bot.com

    so who's she play then? <P>and you have to tell us, because if you don't then we know it's a certain lady psychiatric doctor. if you can say 'sal maroni's girlfriend' then do so, even though that role is already listed as another woman.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Hong Kong? ASIAN NOISE!!!!

    by James_O'Nasty

    "Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh!" He did mention the first dud, "Speed Racer," so not a plant, why would a plant be sent to big up the movie's release? And has anyone seen "Hellboy 2" yet?

  • June 25, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Fucking Talkbackers

    by gregniz

    Jesus christ you people. You can't complain about the movie because it's good, so you complain about the review and the reviewer! Are you assholes ever happy or only happy when you can bitch about shit that doesn't matter. you guy can all blow me!

  • June 25, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    AMH rumor

    by zom-bot.com

    i also heard that this sorta ends with obsessed investigative reporter mike engel drawing a 'big question mark' on a picture of batman, before cut to black. true?

  • June 25, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    @gape

    by Series7

    FARRRTTTT. I guess your not a fan of the Batman movie series. Every Batman movie has had a new love intrest. Basinger, Pfeiffer, Kidman, O'Donnell, Holms, The uglier Gyllenhaal. You I'm glad she dies, she deserved it. I hope they fucking just get rid of the whole love story with Batman for Batman Begins Forever. I bet comic book movies have a hard time keeping actresses on because they all know what happened to Margot Kidder. And it looks like Kirsten Dunst hasn't been getting many good roles since old Tobes came along.

  • June 25, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson, I love you

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    "BECAUSE I AM A BEAUTIFUL SNOWFLAKE WITH ORIGINAL OPINIONS ON THE SUBJECT ...!" is the perfect summation of so many trolls' opinions on whatever is vogue on this site. Well done.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by @gape

    Series7, the difference is that those other actresses played OTHER characters. Besides, you prove my point. No one will connect with Rachel Dawes death because of the connection to Katie Holmes. It will be laughable. Like you, I prefer batman without a love interest, but Nolan felt her necessity. My suggestion of reshoots seems plausible if this film becomes the masterpiece everyone claims it to be. Is it a minor gripe? Yeah. Will I enjoy the film regardless? You betcha!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Tim Biselys Review

    by Duffer63

    Juice Willis You get your scene. We see more detective work from Batman in this film. What You Fear The review does reveal new things or atleast hints at things. Reread it TomDolan04 Did not reveal info behind screening for a reason. Lost Jane The reason I make comparisons between this and Godfather part 2 is because I feel its one of the best sequels ever made and was not made with the idea of it being a part in a trilogy but the best film they could possibly make. TDK feels very much the same way. Tim Bisely is Simon Pegg's character from Spaced. Kudos to you sir. Im not Mori though. Hoisin Thanks Id like one. Righteous Brother Thanks thats exactly what I was trying to do. Depalma25 I think your right. MikeD There are sceening's outside of California. Trazadone I wholeheartedly disagree Bellweather Ill run my review by you next time. Okay by you? Grammaton Cleric Binks Thanks Jackpumkin Had Your right 99 % of it is online. Who am I to ruin the other 1% for everyone. Cripeman Thanks Jim Bob Cooter Glad I could amuse you Ciroslive AMH plays a tv reporter. Small role but has a crucial role to play in the climax. Preacher Hunter. You are way off!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Please don´t kill the Joker

    by CuervoJones

    Again.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    reading merriman's post

    by kamar

    is about as enjoyable as what i imagine eating a shit sandwich would be like

  • June 25, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Whether this review is legit or not...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...it sounds great. I'm so stoked for this movie. I have to believe that if anything can wash out the incredibly bad taste of the all too disappointing INDY 4 from my mouth, it's going to be THE DARK KNIGHT.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    joker doesn't die- don't worry

    by zom-bot.com

    nolan ain't gonna pull that shit. the only reason ra's seemingly died was because in comics, he does and comes back again and again. everyone wants to see the joker get put away and that's what we'll get. rumors that they shot two endings- a joker death and a joker in arkham- and that now that heath's dead they're using the first one- are batshit.<P> still, sarah jane dunn? <P>anybody?

  • June 25, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Merriman Lyon = Joy Killer

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Have you met I am Batman?

  • June 25, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I am Batman

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    BOO-HOO!!!<P> E<P>E<P>Y<P>O<P>R<P>E!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    *SPOILER* batmans leg attacked by rubber shark!

    by Groothewarrior

    batman needs robin to pass down the bat-shark repellant!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    SPOILER FREE, HUH?

    by BurgerTime

    It's basically a beat-by-beat summary of the main action in the film. Now it's likely bullshit, but c'mon guys, if it's anywhere close to spoilerific can you let us know?? Some of us ARE only interested in the guy's opinion of whether he liked it or not and could do without the juicy details.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    STFU Donny

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey loves you too. Most of all, Rickey loves a kick ass, dark & brooding Batman movie. Dressing up like a bat and fighting crime is a psychotic decision and so far, Nolan's been the perfect guy to bring that to the screen. Even better, somebody said this was the "Empire" of Nolan's Batman series--Rickey's extremely stoked for that idea.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    i wish this place

    by zom-bot.com

    was moe about reviews an spoilers and theories and opinions...but every freakin' talkback becomes a fight over..nothing..by like the same 5 or 6 people every time. i need to find a new place. when i refresh or come back i want to see new info, but end up scrolling through 20 posts of the same tired insults. gay. we get it. your mother. we get it. parent's basement. we get it. <P>can we talk some batman now?

  • June 25, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Bad_Wolf

    by ironic_name

    watchoo got muthafuckuh? <P>i', kingkong in this muthuh!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    This Movie Can't Come Out Any Sooner

    by fassbinder79

    THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    If what preacherhunter says is true...

    by hank henshaw

    I wonder how will Robin look like in a Nolan movie. Maybe there'll be a Dick Grayson, but no Robin. Maybe Robin's costume is just Dick in his circus costume (just no bright colors) and a mask.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    nolan said no robin.

    by zom-bot.com

    although he also said no harley quinn, and that's up in the air at the moment. perhaps, in cruel joke, showing dr. quinzel isn't the same as showing harely quinn, and maybe mentioning an orphan kid isn't the same as having a robin...<P>although in everything i've ever read, Nolan is pretty serious about just not wanting to go the robin route. it's too early in batman's career.<P> everyone forgets that kid with fighting parents in BB that batman gave a nightscope to, was with racheal in the narrows, and who the police at the end of BB said 'his parents are missing'.<P> sounds like a set up to some sort of a robin to me. but probably hinting at possibilities of a batman future we'll never see in a nolan trilogy.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Ending leaked???

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Looks very familiar, but I suppose the content is less important and maintaining realism was the point. After all, this is indeed, realistically, what would really happen in a real world of realistic realism. http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSiocfFmMGo <p> REALISM! (Sound of horses neighing)

  • June 25, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    IM KING KONG IN THIS MOTHER FUCKER, BITCH

    by That 70s Venom

    RECOGNIZE

  • June 25, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    King Of The Gypsies

    by fassbinder79

    Eric Roberts being in this makes me so happy. He is one of the most underrated actors in the history of movies. Roberts as a mob boss in a Nolan film is like putting ice cream on sushi and I LOVE BOTH. Its simply going to be too much to handle. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE!!!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    KING KONG AIN'T GOT NOTHIN ON ME!

    by Saluki

    THIS AIN'T NO BANK ROBBERY!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    BUT IF THEY DID HAVE ROBIN...

    by One Nation Under Zod

    They could cast the kid from Malcom In The Middle. He could play the role as a child for 15-20 years more at least.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    That 70s Venom

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    While I did my best to avoid reading the entire contents of your ***SPOILER*** post, I sincerely hope you did not just drop a genuine spoiler bomb in this thread.<P>Damn.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    23 days

    by zom-bot.com

    three point something weeks. it seems so close and yet....<P>i just remember last year when the first viral teases hit it seemed like it was still years away. it's been a fast 6 or 7 months...but will probably be one long last month.<P> overhyped? overexcited? nah. my geek sanity doesn't hinge on it, and if i end up underwhelmed, whatever. But it's one movie in a long time i will risk $10 on, and the long running time NOT being trimmed by studios says alot to what they have come to appreciate about nolan's vision for it. 2 and a half hours of escapism? i could use it.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Cool article! And spoiler-free too!

    by Aethyrr

    Thanks, thanks a lot for this one :D

  • June 25, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Batpod in Batman Begins

    by The Biomind

    You see Batman on the Batpod in BB when he (later Gordon) bends over to fire rockets.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Heath Ledger is OVERRATED

    by BobParr

    The guy was a pretty good actor and it's a shame that he died but let's not fool ourselves and say he was the next great thing. He would have had a good career but it wasn't any kind of huge loss to the world of film. He is replacable as an actor.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    indeed Yack...by Rickey Henderson

    by nerosday

    LOLOLOLOL!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    preacherhunter is incorrect

    by Saluki

    None of that happens. Sorry. And yes, the movie is 152 minutes with credits.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    BobParr

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Geezus! Have a heart, fella.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    all actors are replaceable, bobparr

    by zom-bot.com

    but i think the basic concensus you get when you scrape off everyones' over exuberance about his role, is that he gives a surprising performance, and that he dug really deep and became the character he was portraying. Nolan said in a Wired article that when heath was describing the voice he would find- 'like a ventriloquist- kinda high and low at the same time' that even then heath sounded a little nutso....and the fact he could no longer sleep after the movie, kept a creepy diary....phew.<P>nolan and warner will never admit it, but we will be witnessing an actor going over the edge to become a character, and we know how that ended up. that's not why i'm going to see it, but it should be interesting.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    BobParr, replaceable by who?

    by Saluki

    I think he was slowly hollowing out his own niche.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Agent Johnson, not true

    by Saluki

    You'll see it for a few seconds on HBO as you flip past. They'll be playing this one a few hundred times just like Begins. Muahahahaha!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    PLANT

    by tme2nsb

    Who says "Friggin" ?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    the heath/joker diaries

    by zom-bot.com

    maybe one day, years from now, they could be released in print if the family hasn't burnt them already. I's love to see those doodles and sick jokes he reportedly did. As an artist, scribbler, and semi-insane person myself, that would be a fascinatng read.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Hey BobParr...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Know what else is overrated? OXYGEN! yeah, it's nice and everything, but it's easily replacable by another element.<br> <br> Know what else is overrated? THE SUN? Sure, it's the giver of life and whatnot, but let's be honest here, we could make do without it.<br> <br> You know what else is overrated? ORIGINAL THOUGHT! Sure, it's the mechanism by which mankind has evolved and progressed and everything, but let's be honest know, it's also easily replacable.<br> <br> Is there anything you do like, you joyless fuck? Just curious.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    zom-bot.com, your pushing it

    by Saluki

    I think the "Batman killed Health" angle is simply untrue. Everyone on set said he was perfectly stable and funny. His death happened four months after his work on the film was finished. Nor do I think his work on Gilliam's film did him in. It was a medication overdose, he should have smarter, yes, but it really isn't anything to make out more than it is.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    "The Joker would find AIDS to be funny."

    by Saluki

    Yeah, OK, I wanna see this diary.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    Holy shit, you're right about that Robin set up. I never even thought about that. That kid WAS featured repeatedly in BB.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    its Batman...

    by j2talk

    this film is once again bringing Batman to the big screen, It will get my $5...and I'll enjoy it....just like i enjoyed all the other films- yes i did say ALL, each of the pervious films and there positives and negatives- some more than others...but in the end I am sure I'll not feel like I wasted 2hrs inside on a friday sfternoon....

  • June 25, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Robin won't be in Nolan'

    by Saluki

  • June 25, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Robin won't be in Nolan's Batman

    by Saluki

    If he doesn't return for the next one, then it is anyone's guess, but Nolan & Bale are not interested in Robin. Sorry. Will be interesting to see a director go for three Batman movies for once.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    the poor kid in BB

    by zom-bot.com

    is probably as close to robin as well see with nolan. I think that was his nod to it, and that's all we'd get.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Did Jay Leno setup this screening?

    by Saluki

    Apparently it was in Burbank. The Two-Face role is a BIG reveal, and Nolan really tinkers with how the movie ends. Word of mouth out of the screening is astronomical.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Has anyone heard ....

    by Damage_Inc

    About the release date for part 3? Did they film them back to back? Anyone? If they have already filmed it, they should pull a Matrix or Pirates and release it like 6 months later.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Remember how funny it was...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...when I Am Batman used be known as moviemack? And how he bitched and wailed for months before BB opened? And how he suddenly vanished after BB came out, only to resurface, very low-key, on the tail end of talkbacks about other subjects just before they fell off the front page? <p> Yeah, I remember that too. One of the great STFU moments in AICN history.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Merriman

    by DocPazuzu

    You are about as joyless as I Am Batman/moviemack and ringwearer9.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Damage_Inc

    by nerosday

    no, they didn't film them back to back, and there is no release date set. Ledger's death throws a serious kink into the plotting of 3 because all sources say Joker lives thru TDK and the conflict between Two-Face and Joker was really supposed to carry over into the next movie from what Nolan has hinted at. He has also said that he can't think of recasting Joker, so I have no clue how he's going to explain Joker going into hiding or simply stopping... Joker just doesn't do that.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    I am Tim Bisely

    by Duffer63

    No Jay Leno didnt set up this screening! Refer to my last post.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    ***WARNING*** MORE TDK SPOILERS ***DO NOT READ***

    by That 70s Venom

    ***SERIOUSLY FOLKS, I JUST SAW THE MOVIE LAST NIGHT ON A HUGE IMAX SCREEN AT A SNEAK PEEK IN DOWNTOWN L.A. DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER*** If you guys want to know how The Joker and Two Face die: The Joker wounds Batman badly by shooting him in the shoulder and the foot with an antique tommy gun but Batman disarms the Joker with some kind of elastic military gripping wire and the Joker runs to an armored car where he has Alfred tied up in bubble-wrap and he puts a knife to his throat and threatens to kill him but Batman uses a gadget that Lucius Fox gave him that sends out a piercing high-pitched sound that only crazy people can hear and it fucks the Joker up bad and he grabs his head and starts crawling on the ground but it also effects Batman because they're both insane. Batman turns the gadget off and jumps onto the Joker and they beat the crap out of each other until Batman finally gets the upper hand gets ready to break the Joker's neck when the Joker starts crying like a maniac and convinces Batman's sane side to let him live while Afred is trying to tell him something but his mouth is covered with tape but then the Joker pulls out a pistol and tries to shoot Batman in the head but Batman dodges at almost point-blank range (somehow) and Batman ejects a blade out of his wrist and plundges it into the Joker's throat. The Joker chokes on like a fucking gallon of bubbling, saliva-mixed blood while taunting Batman with half-baked anarchist philosophies and trying to punch him until he dies in Batman's arms. Two-Face is arriving at a mob boss's mansion when Jim Gordon confronts him and tells him that he is under arrest. Two-Face laughs and taunts Gordon and runs into the mansion while he motions to his cronies to fire at Gordon. They spray at Gordon but Gordon runs and ducks behind his car and uses his door for a shield. He shoots and kills one of the thugs but then he runs around the back of the mansion and climbs in through a window and the thugs don't see him because it's so dark outside. Gordon finds Two-Face inside the house after he has strangled a mob boss in his own bathtub. Two-Face is standing over the tub when Gordon is standing outside the bathroom and they have a conversation about justice, corruption and the future of Gotham for about a minute until Gordon realizes that Two-Face will never be the Harvey Dent persuer of true justice he once knew. Two-Face turns around to charge Gordon and Gordon pops off 2 shots hitting Two-Face in the chest. Two-Face falls on top of Gordon and screams right directly in his face. Most of it is inane jibberish but he tries to make a point about the good people of Gotham or something. Two-Face wraps the strangling cord around Gordon's neck and his face turns blue but Gordon is able to shoot one more bullet up through Two-Face's chest, through his jaw, and out of his eye. ***SPOILERS ENDED***

  • June 25, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Oh, GOD. Is THAT who he is?!

    by Saluki

    I thought it was odd that someone called "I Am Batman" would show up in unrelated talkbacks and just bash The Dark Knight. Now that we know it is moviemack... Pathetic.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    And what is the Prestige moment?

    by Damage_Inc

    Is it when all of the other "Batmen" show up like the one that was hanged in those leaked pics awhile back?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    nerosday

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, that's a good point. Guess they'll have to lock Joker up in Arkham for all time or something.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Prestige moment

    by Duffer63

    Its a key plot point towards the end of the film. It concerns someones death.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    70s Venom

    by Saluki

    You have a very interesting imagination. =D

  • June 25, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    That 70s Venom...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Assuming what you're saying is legit, how in the hell is this movie not rated R? That's some seriously awesome & fucked up shit going on in your synopsis...

  • June 25, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson

    by That 70s Venom

    after you see Two-Face's face, you will wonder how the movie is not rated R on that principle alone. That's what I wondered.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Prestige moment?

    by Damage_Inc

    Does anyone know where to find those leaked TDK images with the Joker as cop and nurse and the hanged Batman?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    70s Venom

    by Jason B. Swaim

    "but Batman uses a gadget that Lucius Fox gave him that sends out a piercing high-pitched sound that only crazy people can hear" Do I even need to comment on this?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Things we didn't know before this review

    by Oski

    Joker has daddy issues (here's a tissue), cryptic explanation for the chelsea grin, disappearing pencil trick, Dent going after the mob under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, Two Face reveal in a hospital from Gordon's POV, the temporary batcave is under the docks, Rachel doesn't die when she is dropped out the penthouse window, but maybe later on, and the film is linear, no flashbacks. These are the things to look out for in other reviews or when the movie comes out.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Oski

    by Duffer63

    Thank you for actually reading the review.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    RE: matalo

    by That 70s Venom

    dude... Lucius words it in a different way. He goes on about something to the effect of "this device is capable of disrupting the brainwave thought patterns of the mentally and emotionally disturbed. I suggest you see your shrink before activating it." Then Wayne grins slightly and nods.

  • June 25, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    If that was real, it was still poorly written

    by Charlie Murphy

    Everything in there has already been revealed. When he makes the Heat reference, that's where I kinda go "okay, this guy's full of shit, or, if he's telling the truth he doesn't have an original thought in his head". Nolan has been saying that Heat stuff for forever.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Charlie Murphy

    by Duffer63

    Read Oski's comment.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Alright, why don't you tell us some more. What about the moment that concerns someones death? Or the fate of Joker.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    If...IF... they recast Joker for 3, who do you like?

    by nerosday

    I know casting discussions are annoying, but in this case I am curious. I don't think they will do it myself, the death of an actor is always a much more touchy thing than recasting due to "scheduling conflicts" AKA my "hubby's wacko and says I can't come out of the basement brainwashing center long enough to film it." Or the ever true, "My performance was so bad the director received death threats so I was recast."

  • June 25, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Nice synopsis, though I agree

    by BLEST

    with those who say that it could've been written from magazines/trailers/interviews.<p>TDK will own everything out this year.<p> End of story.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    joker recast in 3

    by zom-bot.com

    ..sam rockwell? steve buscemi?(his speaking voice is pretty close to heath's forced one, though he may look TOO grotesque!)<P> -or i think it would have to be someone out of left field, that we would never expect, and i guess we'd just have to leave it to nolan.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    So how bout it? If you are for real, why don't you tell us something else that may be cool about the DK. I really doubt that anyone reading this talkback could care less about spoilers anymore.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    BTW

    by Damage_Inc

    steve buscemi could have made an awesome joker. That's an actor I never even thought about.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    In other news...

    by Thrillho77

    Anybody see Iron Chef America the other night? The secret ingredient on which the chefs crafted their succulent variations was "Chocolate Covered Pussy Juice." Mario Batali spanked the competition, as there is nobody that knows their way around Chocolate Covered Pussy juice than morbidly obese, red heads. And now, I say to you, in the words of my uncle... Alles cuisine!!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER. The Joker is still alive at the end of the film. He is literally left hanging from a thread! I dont want to say who the death is as it hasnt been reported anywhere. The person jumps infront of a bullet to save someone elses life. They dont set up a third like they did with the first. Bruce creates a machine without Fox that Fox says he will quit over when he realises what it is capable of doing. Want to know more?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    I guess all these guys are right and you are just a fraud/plant. Too bad.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Yes, tell us more, and disregard that last post. I was just trying to motivate you to spill.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    70s Venom's imagination....

    by O.D.B. Mike D

    Call me a liar all you want, but I happen to know for FACT that there was never a screening in IMAX in downtown LA. So really, how did you see this?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Damage_Inc offer him alot of money or drugs

    by g-ride9000

    then he'll tell you so much you wont even WANT to see the film.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    how do you know Dirt Mcgirt Dimond?

    by g-ride9000

    are you the chair of IMAX or the screening scheduler's boyfriend?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    g-ride9000

    by Damage_Inc

    If I knew every single detail of this movie, I would still go see it. I think most others are the same way. That's why I don't think we need to worry about spoilers anymore.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Was excited already

    by moviemaniac-7

    Now even more. Come on July!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    preacherhunter/ 70sVenom

    by Charlie Murphy

    are you guys full of it or what? you do realize emotions are fragile and that you should not mess with them? Preacher's "spoilers" sounds more plausible than Venom's but I question both of their validity. If Joker and/or Two-Face kick the bucket in this movie, I will go nuts. worst mistake ever. And I kinda suspect Two-Face won't be a huge huge presence in the movie (in two-face form)... probably just near the end of the movie... the Richard Grayson bit made me smile and I think I'd love to have that little nugget in the movie, but it sounds... too perfect. Anyway, if either of you speak the truth, or neither, I am looking forward to this movie like no other this year.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    I dreamt buscemi died

    by ironic_name

    so don't offer him the role.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    I find it so amusing that so many people either call me a plant or a fake with this review. Ive had reviews up before where people just excepted that I had seen the film why not now? Just because Im lucky enough to get to see it doesnt mean Im a plant or telling lies. You ask me a question and Ill answer it although keep in mind I am wary of spoiling it for anyone else.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I agree to trust in Nolan.

    by nerosday

    I remember the bitching when Ledger was cast, some from me as well, but from what little I've seen so far I think it was an inspired choice. The hard thing will be finding an actor that is willing to follow a final performance, or rather a final completed performance. There will be a lot of baggage and room for comparisons there. The character would never truly be your own.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight looks pretty good

    by DirtyDingusMegee

    I'm looking forward to it, but my expectations are low because I've been disappointed by superhero movies so many times. I liked BB though. Indy 4 ate cock (no other way to spin it). Iron man was good, not great, not mediocre. But I didn't think it was the second coming. I hope Watchmen is good, thats my favorite comic book, and it could easily end up being the worst movie ever made. But I'm giving it a chance because its never been translated to another medium.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    oh and Duffer

    by Charlie Murphy

    I think you should lay on as many spoilers as you can think of.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    like how late does Havey become Two Face

    by Charlie Murphy

    is it only a few scenes as two-face?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    That's cool, I appreciate that you don't want to spoil it for others, but they can leave if they want to. What is the deal with the multiple Batmen?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Damage_Inc have your sarcasm-o-meter checked

    by g-ride9000

  • June 25, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    If Nolan is seriously concerned about continuity for Batman 3...

    by Mostholy

    ...he should cast Joshua Gordon Leavitt as the Joker. The guy looked eerily like Ledger anyway. Otherwise, Adrien Brody's still waiting by the phone, and let's not forget Ray Winstone as Oswald Cobblepot.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    G-Ride....

    by O.D.B. Mike D

    How did I know the second I finally started posting something after 9 years of reading this site someone would have to attack. I think this is why I never post, coz talkbakcers are so quick to be haters. I have ins, you don't. Don't hate, appreciate. I'm just calling someone out on something I know for fact to be bullshit.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    g-ride9000

    by Damage_Inc

    What do you mean?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Charlie Murphy

    by Duffer63

    It is only a few scenes. I will say how he gets the scars is done quite well. On an emotional level he becomes Two Face because he has lost his family as he calls it. The scene of Two Face that was revealed on whysoserious is when he starts to go a bit awol and SPOILER SPOLIER SPOILER He does die at the end. You have to put that death in context of what that means for the city and what Batman decides to do at the end of the film to keep the memory of Harvey Dent and what he meant alive. Keep the qs coming. Just admit that you no longer think Im a bloody plant!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    The multiple Batmans are just a bunch of civilians who take to dressing up like Batman to hunt criminals. You only see them in the beginning with Batmans introduction. They are trying to fight Scarecrow and fail miserably. It sets up a laugh for when Batman does arrive on the scene and makes his intriducion all the more powerful.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, I believe it. How does Dent get scarred? Acid in face in courtroom or industrial accident in warehouse?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Dick Grayson's intro scene! Spoilers!

    by greenstyle92

    Batman finds Dick and brings him to the make-shift Batcave for his own protection. Batman reveals he's Bruce. Joker and Two-face start some shit, so Batman's like "I gotta go!" and Dick eyes a special RED BATMAN COSTUME that Bruce was tinkering with and says, "Next time, Baby!" <br> <br> And Stay after the credits, because Sam Neill makes a cameo as Maxwell Lord to recruit Bruce for the Justice League initiative! Then Bruce goes and talks to Amanda Waller at a run down bar and says "I heard you had a little problem!" and Waller goes, "What about YOUR fucking problem!" THAT is the way to make a comic book movie, gentlemen!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    New TDK clip- spoilers

    by batjac

    I think this says it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH7vZCyC61E

  • June 25, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    70s Venom

    by Jason B. Swaim

    Now that sounds more realistic. <p> Was not trying to troll you but it did seem a little far fetched. Thanks for the response.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Highly looking forward to this!!

    by Darth Macchio

    Altho I still don't like turnip head Maggie Gyllenhall I must say that I'm completely psyched to see this!<p>Might even suffer whiny kids, talking adults, and the rank cumulative public BO and see it in the theater!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    recruit Bruce for the Justice League initiative!

    by Damage_Inc

    Fuckin great.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Also...

    by greenstyle92

    Matt Hagen is an actor who sees Batman and becomes obsessed by him, and wanting to challenge him to a fight. He tracks down Dr. Langstrom and has Langstrom give him a shot of Bat-steroids, to make him stronger and faster. Hagen challenges Batman but almost dies. So he tracks down Roland Dagget and says he wants his power, and Dagget is like, "but it looks like you've got a little man in you already! the mix could be a clay Aiken-esque abomination! Sure enough, Dagget becomes a huge clay monster but has to lose his wiener and balls as a side effect.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    Neither. Why do you want to know every detail? You will enjoy it so much more going in blind. I had watched that scene on why so serious and the 6 minute clip on youtube and wished I hadnt. Thats why I really tried to give away as little as possible.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Well, you just said "Keep the qs coming". So spill. How does he get burned/scarred?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    RE: Matalo

    by That 70s Venom

    no prob.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    sarah jane dunn

    by zom-bot.com

    i'm still askin'. who does she play?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    SPOILERS

    by Thrillho77

    I heard there's one part where Batman tells everyone to flee for their lives, because he's holding a bomb. Then he runs out into the street, but he keeps running in to passersby after passerby. Then he finally gets to dock over the water, but there are DUCKS there!!! He can't throw the bomb there! Then, in the movie's greatest one-liner that people WILL be talking about as they're walking out of the theater, Batman says...get this... "Somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb!" Oh man! That one's going to KILL opening night.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Two Face / Harvey Dent

    by Duffer63

    It concerns the climax of the film. Harvey and another character have been kidnapped and placed in two different locations. Batman has to choose he rescues. Dent falls out of his chair and knocks over a barrel containing flamable liquid. He soaks half his body in it. When the building expoldes he is outside but the flame reaches him and he ignites in flames. His double sided coin also gets burned on one side.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to see it!

    by BigCZee

    Never had any doubts that this movie will suck. Now i am even more sure that it wont. I have waited ever since the end of BB to see The Joker's trimphant return to the big screen. It will be fucking glorious!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    That 70s Venom...

    by Silverglade

    That plot summary you posted is so funny I am still rolling. I am at work too and everyone near me was watching me laugh like crazy and they kept saying "what?!" to find out what it was.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    "Harvey and another character have been kidnapped and placed in two different locations. Batman has to choose he rescues." Don't tell me it's like the end of Batman Forever.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    You morbid fucker

  • June 25, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    Its nothing like Batman Forever!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Or come to think of it, the end of Spider-Man 1.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    And another new classic has to be:

    by Silverglade

    "..while taunting Batman with half-baked anarchist philosophies..."<p> I almost choked on my vodka after reading that line.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    OK, what about the Harley Quinn cameo? Is there any truth to it?

  • June 25, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Otter

    by oisin5199

    Not sure if anyone's responded to your comment, because I've been skipping the spoilers, but the vision of Joker is new for screen but NOT for the comics. Nolan borrowed from the first ever appearances of the Joker in the 30s, before the Comics Code pussification of DC, when violent crime comics were still the thing. Joker was a cold-blooded killer who would mess with the authorities. Read Batman #1, Joker says he's going to kill a certain person at midnight, and he does, despite all the police protection in Gotham. And he does it through tricks, disguises, and sometimes, gas. He does it a few more times before Batman can catch him. So this is the ORIGINAL Joker vision, but through a modern anarchist sensibility.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    No truth to it.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    THE REVIEW

    by timmer33

    Uh ... I skimmed it to avoid spoilers, but is it just me or did the reviewer not actually say whether it was worse than, the same as, or better than Batman Begins? So he gave a "review" which was basically a synopsis of the film with no mention of rating, quality, or how much he enjoyed the film. WTF? So why was this posted? Just to spoil the movie for fans who can't resist reading a "review" and don't actually get anything out of it except plot details??? Is it just me on this or what? To all future "reviewers": please state what you liked about the film, what you didn't like about the film, provide a rating, and avoid discussing plot details that have no relation to the actual review. Thanks.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    There are so many spoilers in that review

    by ZeroC

    Why the hell would you preface your review with "I will try to keep this as spoiler-free as possible" only to proceed into an 8 paragraph description of what happens in the movie? Did I want to know why Dent decided to call himself Two Face? No. Did I want to know why Batman's in Hong Kong? No. Did I want to know what the "best" moments in the film were? NO! Fuck you, reviewer.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    After reading the Rotten Tomatoes review..

    by Oski

    in their forums, I think this guy just cribbed the Rotten Tomatoes review. The guy over there will answer questions of spoilers when asked, but he's keeping some things he doesn't want to spoil, like how the Joker escapes from Jail to himself for your own sake.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    What about the whole Joker in a body bag thing? Did they keep that part in the movie?

  • June 25, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Spoiler Free my arse! You spewed MANY SPOILERS!!!

    by hatespeech

    jerk

  • June 25, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    bright star's final burst of light

    by zom-bot.com

    yeah. i'm against the rampant homojokes here, but that was pretty gay. gayer than gay, like concentrated gay from the sweat of a gay guy fucking his own clone slowly gay.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    "Heat" comparisons

    by Mr. Profit

    Anyone who has seen "Heat" can make the comparison based on watching the Bank Robbery sequence alone. I went to see "I Am Legend" purposely on IMAX just to see the sequence and when I left the theater I said the same thing. It looked like "Heat". So I don't think the reviewer just stole that line from a magazine. Anyone can see how it looks like "Heat" for themselves.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    gayer still

    by zom-bot.com

    sorry, i did'nt go into depth quite enough how gay "a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen." was. <P>the gay clones are in bed, facing each other during sex and mumbling to each other through soft but sloppy kisses. it's raining outside, and a lot of candles are lit. someone left SADE playing in the living room, but you can just make out the bass coming through the walls.<P>that's how gay that was. if you have to make a gay joke here, you should at least explain it.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Re: the "Heat" comparisons

    by Rickey Henderson

    not sure where eveyone's getting that from because everything Rickey has heard seems to make TDK sound more like "Milo & Otis"

  • June 25, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Damage_Inc

    re: "And I can just picture Harry bursting all over himself at that very moment....." Don't forget crying and trembling.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    milo & otis ftw

    by zom-bot.com

    although i was feeling some strains of Ernest goes to jail, with hints of GOTCHA! from TDK. amazing what we interpret.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    You still here?

  • June 25, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    harryisms

    by zom-bot.com

    someone needs to compile them and get that book printed before he does. chocolate dipped pussy juice burting on the screen and all.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    ejaculates a tiny little dot of cream

    by zom-bot.com

    stop it danny! my fucking cheeks, jaw and ears hurt from laughing quietly at work!!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    Sadly I am but not for much longer.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Hey, I was going to ask you, what is that Busted Tee petition you guys have been talking about?

  • June 25, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Wow, I thought they banned you or something. I wouldn't put it past Warners to try. So what about the body bag thing? I can't stand the suspense.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    nothing compares to you

    by zom-bot.com

    that's what he starts stroking to, but ironically by the time he pops, iTunes has already moved on to chumbawumba or some other 90's electro pop..any ideas?

  • June 25, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Just to Clarify

    by Alex Childress

    If you read a review of TDK and get mad because the reviewer included spoilers, you're a fucking idiot. It's like blaming McDonald's for making you fat.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    benditlikelucas

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Your anticipation / experience of the first Burton "Batman" was much the same as my own--only I was around 17 at the time. Although I thoroughly enjoyed the movie at the time, I do agree that it is, put bluntly, "boring." The fact that I've not returned to watch it in like fifteen years is evidence enough of that. I have no urge to see Basinger and Wahl sit in their newspaper office wondering who the Batman is, nor do I care for extended sequences of Bruce Wayne doing little more than brooding. Don't get me wrong--I think Keaton did a GREAT job, and I like the brooding Wayne. But there was TOO much of it and not enough action to offset it.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    One of the few films

    by ewokstew

    I didn't need to wait for a positive review on. I knew it was going to be good.

  • June 25, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Nolan really MICROWAVED THE WATER!

    by greenstyle92

    Fuck "Nuked the Fridge!" "Microwaved the Water!" is the new fanboy redundant meme!

  • June 25, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    Some of the criminals put a price on The Jokers head and a bunch of vigilantes say they have killed the The Joker and they bring him in in one. Havent been banned just yet. Dont think they could be bothered. Damage Inc. Just go see the movie when it comes out. Id be willing to put my leg out and say its the best comic book film ever made certainly the best sequel.

  • June 25, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Abominable Snowcone

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, you're right. Remember when they were all climbing to the top of the building at the end? I honestly thought I would die of old age before they got there.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Further Clarification

    by Alex Childress

    Foree Forehead, if you thought Batman Begins was terrible, if you prefer only either high (Kurosawa, Fellini, Bunuel, Welles) or Low (Verhoeven), then my question is what the fuck are you doing in the talkback of a sequel to a movie you hated?

  • June 25, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    The tagline for all TDK posters should read

    by Abominable Snowcone

    YOU'RE GOING TO COME

  • June 25, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Yeah--"bats in the belfry." Get it? Bats...and he's batman. In the belfry. Ah heh heh...nice one Tim Burton. But seriously, yes, it took an eternity for Bats to climb those stairs. And we all knew he did it because he wanted some of that Basingvaginer.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    It does sound like it's going to be best comic book film ever made, at least the most anticipated. One more question. Is Dent married to Gilda like he was in the comics? Or is it just the love triangle crap? Guess that's two.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Abominable Snowcone-

    by greenstyle92

    How about a poster that looks like steam-fogged glass and the Joker on the other side writing "Why so Serious?" in cum from the tip of his penis on the glass!

  • June 25, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Verhoeven? Low?

    by zom-bot.com

    i think you mean Bay(low). i just rewatched robocop and starship troopers and enjoyed both quite a bit. The bugs in Troopers STILL look better than 90% of CG creatures since!

  • June 25, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    And yes, I have gone insane.

    by greenstyle92

    I've spent other talkbacks explaining why Begins is overrated, (Boring, unsubtle and obvious, overblown, lame action, and a Bale's Batman is lazy and kind of whiny.) So I'm just making stupid meme jokes this time out until I can get a Moriarty review! And yes, I will be at TDK on midnight the 18th because Batman is my all time most beloved character and I pay to go see even the stuff I don't like!

  • June 25, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Zom-bot

    by Alex Childress

    Don't get me wrong, Verhoeven has made a few entertaining movies. I was never blown away, in awe, or even impressed (except for Robocop, which I would attribute more to Frank Miller's influence). My point is, if that guy would rather watch Robocop instead of TDK, he should watch Robocop instead of making asinine comments. I've got a headache today, and I'm a little surly

  • June 25, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by Duffer63

    He is not married. Its just the love triangle crap as you called it. It is so much more than that as Rachel Dawes is a substantial ingrediant in Harvey becoming Two Face and also who Batman and Bruce become at the end of the film.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    dannyglovers

    by zom-bot.com

    i heard harry stole the joker costume from the prop dept to get some of that heath b.o.<P>he tried it on, but could only fit the green vest like a bra. <P>they say that every year, on july 18th, he stands in front of a full length mirror with the vest/bra on and his junk tucked, grunting- 'what doesn't kill you- makes you horny.'

  • June 25, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Did you really contact Busted Tees about this? That's awesome.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Speaking of nuking the fridge...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Correct Rickey if he's wrong, but didn't Batman literally jump the shark in an old comic book story? Rickey has vague memories of Batman riding a shark...

  • June 25, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    joker's daddy issues

    by zom-bot.com

    i think that's a metaphor...?<P>but i HOPE this doesn't mean the joker tells batman 'you created me......DADDY' like in batman dead end. bad bad bad

  • June 25, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Bottomless Busted Tee Girls

    by Damage_Inc

    Why aren't there more signatures??? SIGN THE PETION! http://tinyurl.com/48zw9y

  • June 25, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    if Harry loses weight, gets haircut

    by zom-bot.com

    that banner animator is gonna be out of jokes.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Whoops, I meant....

    by Damage_Inc

    Why aren't there more signatures??? SIGN THE PETITION! http://tinyurl.com/48zw9y

  • June 25, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    verhoeven

    by zom-bot.com

    yup. even when he gets it totally wrong (to source material:starship, total recall) it's still totally right..<P>BUT back to what was said- if someone doesn't like the movie being discussed in a talkback, i don't see the desire to stay in there and berate it. go find the one about southland tales or somethin'

  • June 25, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    How much of this movie would you say was influenced by The Killing Joke?

  • June 25, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    DGDB I signed it, of course

    by Abominable Snowcone

    There's no way to sell a T-shirt than to put one on a healthy, fit, attractive young woman who is not wearing a matching bottom, but rather is displaying her lithe legs and freshly shorn (or at the very least, neatly trimmed) monkeys beaver badge

  • June 25, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    There's no better way

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I meant to say. Duh on me.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Fuck, what happened?

    by Damage_Inc

    Did everyone run to the great Transformers/Beetlejuice story or something?

  • June 25, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    SPOILER (assumption)

    by zom-bot.com

    why would Batman take the public blame for the death of certain people two-face may or may not kill, when they should be able to blame it on the Joker, who is already guilty for a TON of shit, and even if he was incarcerated at the time, could have had things arranged to happen?

  • June 25, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Did they really say they would consider it with 100 signatures? If so, that should be our goddamned mission in life.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Damage_Inc

    Are you still here?

  • June 25, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Snorg Girl > Busted Teed Girl

    by Rickey Henderson

    Yeah, Rickey fucking said it. DO NOT DEBATE RICKEY ON THIS.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson

    by Damage_Inc

    Does that mean you won't be signing the petition? BTW, I'm glad to see that you are referring to yourself in the third person again. I thought you were sick or something.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Rickey will sign the petition...

    by Rickey Henderson

    But Rickey's just sayin'... this low rent busted tees chick that appears on AICN pales in comparison to the awesome hotness of the snorg girls.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    That review is fake as fuck

    by AlwaysThere

    Any member of the AICN crew could right that now and pass it off as legitimate.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    dannyglover

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey will let the Snorg Girl speak for herself: just google "snorg girl" sometime. Trust Rickey, you will not be disappointed. They're the original "hot girl t-shirt company" that Busted Tees is ripping off.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com...

    by greenstyle92

    well, it's easy to say, "If you don't like Nolan Batman, why are you here?" but how much does that actually happen at AICN? I know there were huge talk backs about Indy 4 that most people kept ragging on it and saying it sucked. would you have said to them to just not show up? I mean, if you didn't like the movie and didn't comment on it in the threads, fine. Good for you. If you did, you are a hypocrite.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I CAN NO LONGER WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    to deliver upon my mind TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE REVIEWED THE FILM

    by eric haislar

    http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight 3 1/2 stars

  • June 25, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    danny--yes it is

    by Rickey Henderson

    and most worth it.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    TDK + TFD

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    do you see the connection? i knew that you would. TDK will deliver TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    how many tim burton movies end with...

    by zom-bot.com

    how many tim burton movies end with- or have some climax in- a tower,tall height, or attic, anyway? complete with floors or roofs collapsing, etc?<P> first three that come to mind are batman, edward scissorhands and sleepy hollow....are there anymore? c'mon movie sleuths.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    This will be worse than Indy 4,

    by strosmer

    but better than Iron Man. No way it will be as good as Speed Racer. Hellboy 2 will rule the summer. My prediction - $400 million.

  • June 25, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Idon'twannareadthisIdon'twannareadthisIreallydon't

    by JDanielP

    I'm still trying to convince myself. (Okay, it's GREAT. That's ALL I need to know.)

  • June 25, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE REVIEWED THE DARK KNIGHT

    by eric haislar

    http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

  • June 25, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE REVIEWED THE DARK KNIGHT

    by eric haislar

    http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

  • June 25, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE REVIEWED THE DARK KNIGHT

    by eric haislar

    http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

  • June 25, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE REVIEWED THE DARK KNIGHT

    by eric haislar

    http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

  • June 25, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    strosmer

    by just pillow talk

    Are you saying that Indy 4 was better than Iron Man? For real? And Speed racer? Dude, you're outta your mind.

  • June 25, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Rickey, Fred wants to Snorg Girl

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred would very much enjoy doing that.<p> Free Freds balls!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by eric haislar

    Why would it be bullshit? You think Rolling stone Post fake movie reviews? Maybe just Maybe someone hacked there website. But i doubt it. That's a pretty big hack. I work in IT and that's not something you can just do like that.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    rolling stone review

    by zom-bot.com

    ...well, it verifies what we have heard, says a little bit more, but also keeps its mouth shut on spoilers as i'm sure warner bros doesn't want a detailed review before july 18th. bullshit?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Deac wrong, Glover.

    by Mostholy

    First off, Peter Travers isn't going to just up and make up a review for RS. Second, none of the dialogue referenced by Travers is in any of the teasers, trailers, or TV spots. So, you're dead wrong.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    that really is a shitty review

    by Rickey Henderson

    Travers isn't exactly small potatoes either. Sounds like Warners made him say very little about the flick.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    that really is a shitty review

    by Rickey Henderson

    Travers isn't exactly small potatoes either. Sounds like Warners made him say very little about the flick.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    "Dark Knight soars on the wings of untamed imagination"

    by Rickey Henderson

    yeahhhhhh... can we maybe get someone who doesn't like dudes to share their thoughts on TDK?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by eric haislar

    Get over it. It's a real review. There is dialogue in Travers review that is not in any teasers, trailers, or TV spots. Peter Travers would not make shit up.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    fucking plant

    by BendersShinyAss

    i stopped reading. seriously, who in the real world writes shit like this???? <p> I don't care how good a film is or how crammed full of stuff it is, if a film is over 2 and half hours you not only notice it, but you feel it!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I BELIEVE THE ROLLING STONE REVIEW

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    because i believe this movie will deliver TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.<P>joker: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION<P>batman: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION<P>morgan freeman: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION<P>alfred the butler: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION<P>tumbler battank mobile: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION<P>so what you are looking at here is a movie that is going to deliver a lot of hot TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by strosmer

    Do you mean to imply Indy 4 was a terrible disappointment? Why, if Dark Knight is half as good as Indy 4, it'll still rank as one of the top 3 movies ever made. 3) The Dark Knight 2) Indy 4 1) Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend

  • June 25, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    JPT

    by strosmer

    See above post to M-O-M. Still think I'm out of my mind?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Ra's Al Ghul?

    by somethingcool

    Is there at a least a nod to him in this film? Because he was supposed to be immortal, right?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Fred think review is read deal

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred can't get too excited though, because Freds balls are in a jar. <p> Free Freds Balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    strosmer

    by just pillow talk

    Yes.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Fred meant real deal

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Freds balls cant type.<p> Dickblood should not insult Cerebus Most Holy. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    no, somethingcool

    by Rickey Henderson

    Sorry, but Lazarus pits aint exactly commonplace in the Nolan created Batman universe.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    somethingcool

    by eric haislar

    In begins the mention that Ra's Al Ghul has many faces. It's a name that one person uses until they die then someone else becomes Ra's Al Ghul. That's how they deal with the immortal part. Ra's Al Ghul is immoral in theory.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Dickblood. [SPOILERS from RS review]

    by Mostholy

    Actually, Fuck You.<br /><br /> "I don't want to kill you. You complete me." NEW.<br /><br /> To the clown prince of crime, a knife is preferable to a gun, the better to "savor the moment." NEW.<br /><br /> "What doesn't kill you makes you stranger." From the IMAX 6-minutes.<br /><br /> "Hello, beautiful," In the trailer.<br /><br /> He's right when he compares himself to a dog chasing a car: The chase is all. NEW.<br /><br /> Plus, pretty much anyone who doesn't have their head up their own ass knows Peter Travers isn't going to start making up fake reviews at this stage in his career. "I choose chaos," NEW.<br /><br /> "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain." Trailer.<br /><br />

  • June 25, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    And sorry about the screwed-up formatting.

    by Mostholy

    Hey, AICN, 1996 called. They want their forum software back.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Fred believe the Earth Pig Born - Most Holy

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred not want to spend eternity snorting hot lava through nostrils. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Tarim blesses you, Fred.

    by Mostholy

    Talk to Astoria about the balls.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    How many more third person talking fuckwits are there on AICN?

    by Rickey Henderson

    Goddamn you copycats to hell--Rickey's been here for ages now and you fuckers are stealing his shtick!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer praise makes me sad.

    by greenstyle92

    It seems like I'm seeing more and more praise from the talkbacker internet for Speed Racer and how it was a surprise hit for them. I think I started seeing it around the time Sex and the City hit, as geeks could finally take another week off and catch up on some things like Speed Racer. And I think, "That's nice and all, but where were all you guys on May 9th? How am I supposed to get Speed Racer 2 with After-the-fact praise?" I guess on May 9th two things happened: Geeks went to see Iron Man again because they missed the Sam Jackson cameo the first time and everyone else didn't want to spend the gas money to go back to the theater.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    You know...

    by Damage_Inc

    With all the talk about summer movies, I'm surprised no one is Hulk bashing yet.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Rickey...

    by just pillow talk

    You and another third person are very disturbed by this new development of 3rd person talk.<p>M-O-M, that is what I believe to be the case as well.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Has no one here learned

    by BendersShinyAss

    A film is not good until you actually see it and you actually enjoy it. <p> christ, has no one been burned before?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    It was Astoria who took Freds balls Most Holy

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    The Moonroach is guarding them - and Fred not have enough heavy pike to take on that loon.<p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    No one is Hulk bashing because ...

    by BendersShinyAss

    ... it was a fucking champion film!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    But anyway...

    by greenstyle92

    This "Alfred harbors a secret that could crush Bruce's spirits" seems like news to me. Was Thomas Wayne a drunken Womanizer and Mrs. Wayne would sometimes turn to the hired help to console herself ERGO Alfred is Bruce's Real daddy?<br> <br> btw Rickey stole his schtick from Jimmy on Seinfeld anyway.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson

    by Damage_Inc

    Give the man a break. His balls are in a jar.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    That Rolling Stone review

    by Colonel Activity

    Is legit. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a butthole.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Damage_inc

    by greenstyle92

    I'll step up to the plate! I found incredible Hulk boring and plotless, and ultimately only on par with the Ang Lee version. Not worse, but certainly not better...

  • June 25, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, I agree. I think it's about as good as a Hulk movie could be.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Damage_Inc

    by Rickey Henderson

    Ok, but so what? The dude's balls are in a jar and he talks in the third person. How does that make sense? How long did the guy spend thinking up that handle? A day? Two days? A week? It doesn't even make any fucking sense...

  • June 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Harry, this review is FULL of spoilers

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Please tag it appropriately. I stopped reading once I saw all the cats this guy was letting out of the bag, but I inadvertently read some things I wish I hadn't read. <BR><BR>Harry, I strongly recommend you hire an editor to review your articles before you post them. And I state that with love.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    I thought this movie was a side story to Monty Python's Black Kn

    by The Dum Guy

    The Black Knight that always triumphs.<br><br>If this is a Batman movie (I won't be convinced until I see it) then what is the next one going to be called?... The Caped Crusader.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Hey pillow..

    by Rickey Henderson

    ...how about them new look Mets?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    WHAT IS ALFRED'S SECRET!!??!!??

    by greenstyle92

    .COM

  • June 25, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Fred imitate no one. Fred suffer traumatic injury

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred actually Fred's balls in mason jar, not real Fred. So, Fred balls must talk in third person, but real Fred is Fred, not Freds balls. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    childress

    by foree forehead

    so, you're complaining... about me complaining about wanting better product for superheroes i actually like, yes? begins was wank, and therefore i only like kurosawa and verhoeven, bingo. the point is 'batman begins' was aiming somewhere between those two types of movies and turned out to be exactly that: middle-of-the-road. next you'll be giving it that tried and true tb favorite, "it's not meant to be shakespeare..."

  • June 25, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Alfreds Secret???

    by eric haislar

    Joker is bruce's brother????

  • June 25, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Damage inc

    by BendersShinyAss

    No one dare bash it after Quint prefered the original over it. you dont see much of him these days, have you noticed?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    The other review said joker had daddy issues

    by eric haislar

    So you never know.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I can't wrap my head around...

    by Colonel Activity

    someone claiming that Peter Travers would simply make up a review out of whole cloth. Say what you will about Rolling Stone and/or Travers, but both are nationally known and more-or-less respected. It isn't FOX News and Sean Hannity, for chrissakes!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Dum Guy...

    by greenstyle92

    They are obviously setting up the usage of "Dark Knight Returns" for a later film. Although, I think that would be best handled as a 20 years later 4th-quel like Rock Balboa, Rambo, Live free Die Hard or Indy 4. And only half adapt the original comic, put in a lot of new ideas.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Rickey

    by just pillow talk

    By new look you mean the same shitty team that they've put on the field since late last year? <p>Dreadful. Pathetic. Horrendous. Bunch of drippy little whores they are.<p>I will be seeing their incompetence first hand Friday night. It'll be the battle of "how to waste hundreds of millions of dollars and still get a shitty ballclub" night.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    fuck Fred, and fuck Fred's balls

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey once stayed awake for three days straight doing blow with Heath Ledger but you don't hear Rickey bragging about it, do you?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Duffer- about Two-Face SPOILERS

    by Charlie Murphy

    SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER is the way two-face... you know... is it a sure thing or could he return for the next movie?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, I'm not sure if I have seen Quint lately. But I must have missed the review you are talking about. Do you have the link?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    dude, pillow...

    by Rickey Henderson

    you too? Rickey also has the unique misfortune of being at Shea this Friday night as well. God help us both. Ugh, and this is the second game in one week for Rickey... You should've heard the crowd so silent Monday night after Felix hit that grand slam. It was like a tomb.<br> <br> Yeah, they're the same team as last year. Rickey guesses that Jerry Manuel threatening to knife people can't change all that much...

  • June 25, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by Damage_Inc

    WORSE than Ang Lee's? Why do you say that?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Fred would liked to Fuck, but Freds balls in jar

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred liked Speed Racer too! Good flick. Fred would like love, but sadly Fred has no balls. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by strosmer

    Here's my rankings for the summer so far: 1) Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend. Oops, wait, that was summer of '85, no spring. Start again.<p>1) King Kong Lives<p>Shit! Hold on, hold on. Okay, now I've got my bearings. Here we go, here we go. Ok, best movies of the summer thus far:<p>1) What Happens in Vegas<p>That's it. That's the only good movie I've seen so far this summer. That's the only movie I've seen this summer. The last movie I saw was...I can't remember. Had a girl riding a horse or something. Anyway, Dark Knight should rule the summer - but only until a better movie comes out. Yes.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    strosmer

    by Damage_Inc

    Dude, you forgot the Happening as the best movie of the summer!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    ooooohhh, that would have been a rough game

    by just pillow talk

    to be at. Thanks David. Way to be a money pitcher Johan. Thanks.<p>And I swear, Perez just doesn't even try. <p>Dump Delgado, Castillo, Perez for a warm six-pack. Pay their contracts to play somewhere else, and bring up some young snots from the minors. I don't care if they suck, they can't be any worse than these overpaid buffoons.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Who doesn't love Eric Roberts' work?

    by tvspace

    I never miss the annual loser actors' weekend on Cinemax. Puuuulllleeeaaassseee. At the risk of being flamed, Batman Begins was BORING. I can't get by Bale's LISP. I'll see the movie because of the scope of the film but this hardly goes down as a classic.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Real Review on Rollingstone.com

    by WickedJester

    http://tinyurl.com/5fleqb <br> Now that's a review.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    M-O-M and JPT

    by strosmer

    You guys had me worried there for a moment. I haven't even seen Speed Racer. I thought Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend was a dead giveaway that I was goofing. Thanks for humoring for a bit anyway. Cheers!

  • June 25, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    The Happening is too obvious

    by Rickey Henderson

    if you're going to make it funny, it's got to be a goofy movie that no one on AICN would ever see. Like "THE WATERHORSE: LEGEND OF THE DEEP!"

  • June 25, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Incredible Hulk

    by Damage_Inc

    Has anyone heard anything about that 70 additional minutes that will be included on the DVD release?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Fred says AngLee Hulk had better CGI - but new Hulk gooder

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred watched Anglee Hulk recently, fell asleep at times, but Fred liked CGI. Still think poodle very dumb.<p> New Hulk moved faster, more entertaining, but cartoon CGI. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by strosmer

    No apologies, dude. Thanks for humoring me too though. I just get bored sometimes, you know.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by Damage_Inc

    I have to agree with the CGI and Liv Tyler. Though I think Hurt was better than what I expected. But I just can not buy Edward Norton as a brilliant scientist.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    The amount of people talking in the 3rd person

    by WickedJester

    on this board is unacceptable. It is not funny and hasn't been since George did it circa 1995.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Damage Inc

    by strosmer

    It was a toss up between The Happening and Vegas to be sure.

  • June 25, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    WickedJester

    by Damage_Inc

    George who?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Fred say people who say unacceptable should suffer

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Traumatic injury to their nether regions and see if they can talk in first person! <p> Free Freds Balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Costanza

    by WickedJester

  • June 25, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    ALFRED's SECRET

    by zom-bot.com

    1)bruce was adopted. his parents couldn't have kids, and adopted an orphan baby from one of dr. wayne's 'bad neighborhood' clinics. 2)Dr. wayne treated a child with a suspiciously similar mouth injury, but could not do much to help it. 3)alfred is dying of cancer...etc... 4)him and rachel are bro and sis (eeew)but orphans raised by different families<P>all of which suck and would fuck with every bit of comic history.<P>my bigger question is what does bruce want to make that pisses lucius fox off? the wayne/big brother satellite?

  • June 25, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Fred say - you try to be funny with balls in jar

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    It not easy making ha-ha, when balls are in enbalming fluid. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Fred

    by WickedJester

    '...talk in first person'? Are you the producer for Fast and Furious, removing the THE(s) from everything?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    I guess where there's balls in enbalming fluid there's dickblood

    by WickedJester

  • June 25, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by Damage_Inc

    I heard that it will be an extra 70 minutes added to the movie itself. That would make it about 3 hours long. Apparently, they cut it all to shit because they didn't want all the drama and talking that Ang Lee's had. Didn't you hear about how Norton got all pissy and wouldn't even promote the movie? That's why. So they are putting all of it on DVD to make him quit whining.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Fred can't produce or re-produce. Fred's balls in jar

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred likes 'The's'. Fred not like self appointed TB police though. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    is this the batman thread, or....?

    by zom-bot.com

    the one-note first-person talkbackers say their catchphrase while other people talk about hulk thread? it's amazing how quick this place swings if you leave to take a dump.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Hey, Little Rickey!!

    by BobParr

    I just got back from an appointment and read your witty response. I wasn't going to reply because it was hours ago and I assumed you had some kind of life to get to or something. I was way off about that theory*** Anyway, Did you compare Heath Ledger to "The Sun" ans "Oxygen" in your idiotic response to my post that Health Ledger is replacable. Was Heath like the sun and oxygen to you? So how many times did you jerk off to the fantasy of him face-fucking you? Just because the guy died doesn't make him a great actor. He was pretty good but he certainly wasn't unique. There was never a movie he was in where anybody said "only Heath could have played that role". I'm sure if Jake Gyllenhal got hit by a bus tomorrow closeted homos like yourself would talk about what kind of huge loss this is to Hollywood.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    That actually made me laugh...

    by WickedJester

    I'm not a TB cop, I just can't stand trying to read people's comments and consistently having to read 'Fred say this' or 'Ricky say this' or 'Damn you Michael Bay'. <br><br> People bitch on here about Hollywood being unoriginal, yet out of 100 talkbacks 1 in 3 are exactly the same.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    stengah- per perez

    by zom-bot.com

    so, what were you doing over there at perezhilton.com then, tushpusher!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    catchphrase o rama

    by zom-bot.com

    talkbackers don't have enough character to warrant catchphrases or require welcome back ceremonies, so let's get this shit out of our system real quick: TOTAL-FUCKING-DAMN-YOU-MICHEAL-BAY-STRUCTION-RICKY-HENDERSON'-SDICKBLOOD-BALLS... <P>phew okay, let's talk us up some batmanz again plz.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by eric haislar

    I never thought i would ever say this to you But you earned it. Bravo!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    BobParr

    by Rickey Henderson

    Welcome back and thanks for your bigoted drivel! In response to your query, Rickey was being rather glib in poking fun at you. What Rickey's getting at is that you sir don't seem to enjoy much of anything at all. Cheer up a bit. Life aint so bad, you know? No need for rancor. Presumably, you've got two legs and two arms. What's with the need to piss all over everything?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    ZOM-BOT.COM

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    how about a nice, steaming hot cup of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Fred has interesting things to say

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    If some people would get over their phobia of Freds balls being in a jar and just listen. Fred laugh at people who think that majority talking in third person more original than Fred! <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    maybe my old 'gayer than' post

    by zom-bot.com

    will tick off perez & co and they'll hack and crash my website. i could use the psuedopublicity from the psuedofamous web celebrity.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Here's the thing, fred...

    by greenstyle92

    You may have interesting things to say, but in order to read them I have to shift through bullshit about balls in jars spoken third person. So, it ultimately doesn't seem worth it to me.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Perez Hilton is Gayer than AIDS

    by WickedJester

  • June 25, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Perez linking to the FAKE review

    by AlwaysThere

    instead of the real one Travers posted? go figure.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey's name is spelled with an 'e.' If you're going to spell Rickey's name, Rickey politely demmands that you do so in proper alphabetical fashion.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    perez worse than micheal bay

    by zom-bot.com

    the fact that you can become a celebrity by being an overweight, catty queen who reposts gossip from other websites and does no real journalism, whose very NAME is reliant on the pop madness is worships/tears down...damn, i just wish i had thought of that first.<P>on second thought, aren't perez hilton and hairy knowles just opposite sides of the same coin? one couldn't get laid and geeks out to nerdtainment, while one fucks around and geeks out to celebtainment?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    I... Just don't get Perez Hilton

    by greenstyle92

    He has name that sounds sort of like Paris Hilton and he posts celebrity gossip that anyone with a triple digit IQ would have grown tired of long ago. "Britney's new Look!" WHO THE FUCK CARES? HONESTLY?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by WickedJester

    Point taken. But the rest still applies. Or let me be clever, "Jester no like people talking in third person, no matter how many bases they stole or how long their balls have been in a mason jar.'

  • June 25, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    we may not agree dannyglover,

    by zom-bot.com

    not on everything, but damn you are on fire today.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    dannyglover

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey Henderson politely demands that you return to your regularly scheduled afternoon of autoerotic asphyxiation. Cheers!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    travers' review

    by juice willis

    has me geeked.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    i do not recall the person to whom you have referred. but he sounds like a real dink. chances are, he received TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Go figure...

    by WickedJester

    You can spell asphyxiation (gotta love google, huh?), but not demands :-P

  • June 25, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Rickey?

    by BobParr

    I don't seem to enjoy much of anything? Do I really post that much that I've formed a pattern? My comment about Heath Ledger wasn't a slam against him. I've repeated that I thought he was a pretty good actor and maybe would have been a very good actor one day. He just seemed to get 10 times better after he died. As for what bothers me on this site: I don't like Harry's 5th-grade-level writing (both content and grammar), his extremely compromised reviews, or the incredibly boring, unsolicited details about his life. Did you know that he took his cousin to Wal-Mart before they saw TRANSFORMERS??!!*** I ALSO HATE THE FACT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INDENT A NEW PARAGRAPH ON THIS SHITTY, TALKBACK FORMAT!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    zom-bot doesn't feel so good

    by zom-bot.com

    zom-bot thinks the third person disease is contagious, and although zom-bot wants to talk batman, no one else will, so zom-bot has to conform with all the other non-conforming talkbackers. this makes zom-bot sad. <P>zom-bot.com:illustrator for hire

  • June 25, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    For PEREZ HILTON

    by Damage_Inc

    We chew and spit you out/ We laugh, you scream and shout/ All flee, with fear you run/ You'll know just where we come from

  • June 25, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    I've always been curious, TFD...

    by greenstyle92

    What is the thresh hold for TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION? Must it be 100% destruction within a certain area? Or would 97% destruction do? And how thoroughly must a thing be destroyed before the TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION tag is warranted? Until it is inoperable? until it is unrecognizable? until it is atomized? And when we just get down to it, is TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION even possible? Matter, as you know, cannot be created or destroyed. so when you "destroy" something or someone, it's more like you are scattering the thing in question rather than destroying it. So, in that case, shouldn't your name be TOTAL FUCK DIASPORA?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    Alright, go ahead. Start a new Batman topic. I'm out of ideas and bored as shit.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    ZOM-BOT.COM

    by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION

    since none of us have seen TDK, there really isn't a whole lot more we can discuss concerning the batman. in the meantime, i guess you'll just have to enjoy some more TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Alright, I have one.

    by Damage_Inc

    Who is the main character who dies in TDK?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    nothing left to say

    by zom-bot.com

    yeah i guess there isn't much left to say until some new leak, spoiler or tease drops. I just know we have to stop talking about the Hulk in here. anybody got any good harry jokes?

  • June 25, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Back to DK

    by WickedJester

    RS.com review has my more stoaked, if that was even possible.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    greenstyle92

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred appreciate any constructive comments that promote happy healthy TB'ers with with balls. Fred's 'catchphrase' is really a cry for help because Fred's balls are in a jar. But Fred makes sure he put the interesting things, like comments on movies Fred has seen, first. Then the cry for help. Wouldn't you cry if your balls were in a jar? <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Bill Murray has a rather grotesque death scene

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, I'd pay to see that.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Mr. Dickblood

    by BobParr

    Thanks for the tip but I think I'll just skip using your tip and keep my mouth balls-free. Paragraphs aren't that important to me.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I'll donate my dog's balls to you Fred, if you go one TB without

    by WickedJester

  • June 25, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Is there anyone here .....

    by Damage_Inc

    who hasn't signed this yet? SIGN THE PETITION! http://tinyurl.com/48zw9y

  • June 25, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    ...mentioning yours.

    by WickedJester

  • June 25, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Wow, Look at all the lame Batman fans.....

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ....jumping all over Merriman's case, just because he doesn't think Batman Begins/Dark Knight is the greatest thing since sliced brad or worse, he wouldn't blow his load all over a review. A REVIEW!! Lame-O. All of youse. You're all almost as bad as Transformers fans. The truth is, even by DC's miserable standards, Batman is pretty lame for a Superhero.... I mean, what's his power? A utility belt on steroids? Oh geeez, how exciting. Oh wait, it must be his super-powered Trust fund/bank account. Right. Of course Marvel already have done the billionaire playboy superhero schtick and they did it way better. In addition to being an actual genius, a real playa with the ladies, and with a way cooler pad (and wheels), Iron man actually has a super-powered suit, and which actually flies and with the new vision that Marvel has for their franchises, there's way more to look forward to with IM sequels than for the borefest known as Batman. Search your hearts; you all know this to be true. Speaking of which, I can safely guarantee that this Batman movie will not make anyway near as much as Ironman did (simply because of when DC with all their legendary brilliance decided to position it in terms of it's opening date. Opening a week after Hellboy and 2 weeks after Hancock, can you all say with me "Stolen thunder". That's right; there's no way it's going to be able to pull in enough crowds while competing with those 2 movies (and don't forget Wanted and Wall-E) for the same demographics. Yet another coulda-been blockbuster consigned to ho-um territory. Anyway, go ahead and jump all over my post with your lame responses and alleged insults. Go on, you know you want to.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Only 49 signatures?

    by Damage_Inc

    I'm fucking ashamed of all talkbackers right now.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Dickblood and Jester

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    While Fred appreciate the suggestions, Fred gotta be Fred. Not Fred Ward. And only balls Fred will ever lick are Freds own balls - now currently residing in a mason jar. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra

    by Damage_Inc

    OK, here goes. The last time I checked, Iron Man had only reached the $300 million mark. That's a joke for a "blockbuster" Do you honestly believe TDK won't make that? Shit, it will probably make that in it's opening weekend.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    perez is harry knowles without a soul

    by Prossor

    brrr....

  • June 25, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    we don't sign the petition

    by zom-bot.com

    'cause i'm sick of the banners here.i like AICN to be fairly work safe.<P> and if i want to look at porn, there's plenty of free porn out there. i also do t-shirt work for luckythreadz.com and threadless.com and don't really care much for snorg or busted tees.<P>so yeah.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Anyone using the phrase-

    by greenstyle92

    "Search your feelings, you know it to be true" should be shot. <br> <br> And even the shittiest of Batmans is better than anything Iron Man. Iron Man is just another Superhero. Batman is a Superhero/ pulp crimefighter detective fusion and has way more interesting characters. What's Stark's power? that he gets laid? ooh, I'm shaking. Ever here of a guy named ADAM FUCKING WEST? The guy got more pussy than Tampons!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    without a soul and also gay

    by Prossor

    BRRR!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    fred ward's balls wouldn't fit

    by zom-bot.com

    in a mason jar. even individually, in two seperate jats. you'd need those big industrial mayonaise jars just to contain one tightly curled iron-like pube on fred ward's balls. You might could haul one ball in the back of a toyota tacoma.<P> REMO!

  • June 25, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Bale's bat voice

    by Prossor

    i'm hoping his batvoice doesnt sound like it's a chainsmoker talking who has explosive diahrea constipation and has a mouthful of gravel this time....

  • June 25, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    BobParr

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey agrees with a helluva lot of your sentiments--all this Hollywood talk of a posthumous Oscar for Ledger seems like nothing more than one big circle jerk. But this really does look like a terrific last performance from the guy. Calling his work overrated on a movie no one has yet to see is pushing things a bit too far.<br> <br> But as for all your other gripes (the lack of comment editing, Harry's general man-child shtick, and the wide variety of sociopathic behavior on display in the comments section) definitely do hold merit.

  • June 25, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    fred ward as kraven in spiderman 4

    by zom-bot.com

    search your feelings, you know it to be true.<P> shoot me!

  • June 25, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Since everyone in predicting game. Fred make one

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    60 million opening weekend. 30 Million second weekend. Topping out at 290 million. Overseas numbers for Indy will push it beyond Iron man, but just barely. Iron Man will be second most profitable movie of summer. Wall -E will dominate. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Harry better never die

    by zom-bot.com

    I can't imagine the hate that will flood his memorial talkback. <P>harry- go walk a bit- cut back on the fucking soda, and make this site disappear before you die. Link up some heart monitor/site destroy mechanism ala' Kearmy on LOST

  • June 25, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson - DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    I don't know how you come up with that. Look at SM3 and Pirates 3. Both of those movies grossed a billion dollars in domestic theaters alone. And that's billion with a "B". Both of them were also turds that were just going on the popularity of the previous movies. A lot of people think that TDK is one of the most anticipated movies of all time. Add that to all the press they have gotten about Ledger's final performance and the people who will now see it only out of morbid curiosity, and I think you'll be surprised at how much money it makes.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    55 mil opening

    by greenstyle92

    220 mil total domestic. Sorry, but the mass audience hasn't suddenly decided that this is the new Spider-man.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    my actionsthf define me

    by zom-bot.com

    batmanth lishfp comth from the pfact that hish faceth wath schmathed into that tiny pfuckink mathk in BB. It amplipfied bale'th normal lithp.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by BobParr

    Fred Ward is 78-years-old. Remo Williams is an old, skinny man now.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    kids mean money

    by zom-bot.com

    the only parents bringing kids to TDK will be completely oblivious, horrible parents, or parents that talk to their kids and know they can handle it. the rest all know this isn't exactly a kid's movie. i think if anything dulls the edge on TDK's totals, it will be the kid factor.<P>then again, are we having a pissing contest based on box office equalling a better movie? i thought we were better than that. I'm sure Bio-dome grossed more than slingblade, but which is better? c'mon!

  • June 25, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MGMLXXVI

    Damn you Michael Bay...<br> <br> Oh fuck it. I give up. For over two years I've been doing this shit and where has it gotten me? Nowhere. You fucks can't imagine the zen like concentration it takes to come here to AICN every single fucking day and post "damn you Michael Bay" and say nothing more. It's eating me alive inside. I must break free. I guess what I'm getting at here is...<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry<br> <br> All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom<br> <br> Just shake your rump Harry

  • June 25, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    zom-bot, I can see it now.

    by greenstyle92

    Harry's final moments, (which sadly, are going to be sooner rather than later) play out like Dyson's in Terminator 2. Arteries reaching near total occlusion, Harry forces out each and every final breath to hold as long as he can. But finally, the light leaves his eyes, the breaths stop, and his hand slams a detonator for a small thermonuclear device he has attached to the AICN servers. Like that, Austin disappears in a flash. Fortunately, Moriarty has the good sense to hide in an old frigidaire when the bomb goes off, insuring talk back will continue in one form or another...

  • June 25, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    THWEAR TO MEEEEEE

    by zom-bot.com

  • June 25, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    About Alfred's secret...

    by dihay

    I believe it was mentioned that it had to do with a death(s), not going to go back to verify. If this is the case I believe that maybe Racheal was pregnant when she jumps in front of the bullet to save Bruce. Bruce of course believes the baby to be Dent's because of their recent relationship yet Alfred knows that the child was indeed Bruce's as Racheal previously confided in him. Therefore Bruce feels responsible for not only his parent's death but also Racheal's and his own son's as well. Greek tragedy indeed.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Wall -E will be highest grossing movie of summer

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Pixar rep, combined with kid friendly movie, combined with parents looking to entertain kids for few hours, combined with what looks to be a very good movie, make this mortal lock. <p> Free Freds balls

  • June 25, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson - DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, those are good points. On the other hand, I think BB was really welcomed by the public, in other words, the non geek audience. That's not saying much though, Fantastic 4 and SR was pretty much liked by audiences, too. It will be interested to find out how well it does.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    harry harry harry

    by zom-bot.com

    i feel like i can rib harry because i knew guys like him- while working at movie theaters, ironically. so i mean no distrespect when i say he looks like brady bunch's cousin oliver got raped by malachai from children of the corn. His pic after his surgery showed a man far too oily for this world. I sincerely wish him the best because i know the wolves in talkback will tear his pasty, greasy, recessive gened corpse apart.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Holy Mother of Fucking God!

    by Damage_Inc

    MGMLXXVI speaks!

  • June 25, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    by MGMLXXVI

    It's been been a long haul, these past few years for me. I've lived a spartan life, posting little and yet maintaining a strict policy here on AICN: to only post "Damn you Michael Bay." And it has repressed me. I guess what I'm trying to say is...<br> <br> Check, Harry, check, Harry, 1-2-3-4<br> Check, Harry, check, Harry, 1-2-3<br> Check, Harry, check, Harry, 1-2<br> Check, Harry, check, Harry, 1<br> <br> It's called rump shaker, the piece is like sweeter than candy<br> Harry, I'm feelin' manly and you say it's comin' in handy<br> Slidin' my claws from New York down by N. Virginia<br> Ticklin' you around Delaware before I enter<br> Total seduction, from face, hips, to feet<br> A wiggle and jiggle can make the night complete<br> Now since you got the body of the year, come and get the award<br> Here's a hint, it's like a long chop sword<br> Flip town, so let me see you shake it up like dice<br> The way you shake your rump is turnin' mighty men to mice<br> But A+ got a surprise that's a back breaker<br> Now let me see you shake your rump like a rump shaker, Harry!<br>

  • June 25, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    How fucked up is it that Harry marrried a 21-year-old?

    by BobParr

    Do you think she fantasizes about Justin Timberlake as she's riding the big man?

  • June 25, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Fred thought he was supposed to be MCM not MGM

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred thinks you been duped. <p> Free Freds Balls

  • June 25, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    harry married a 21 year old?!

    by zom-bot.com

    i knew he just got married, but damn. if she's a geek, and she has sex with harry, she probably has to imagine she's being mounted by Ludo from labyrinth or snuffalufagus or something. what are geek girl fantasies like anyway? i just remember that last recent pic of him, he was glistening, skin stretched tight and shiny. looked like a sweaty baby- y'know how lil' kids just metabolize sugar all day, and get clammy and sticky to the touch? you could throw one on a wall and it would stick.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    There was a time when Adam West WAS Batman

    by greenstyle92

    to an entire generation. That doesn't really exist anymore though. Keaton, then, Kilmer, then Clooney, and now Bale... why get attached? The closest thing is Kevin Conroy, who to a whole generation is the VOICE of Batman, but even then that's not really the same...<br> <br> If they announced a Batman Beyond movie with Adam West playing the elderly Bruce Wayne, THAT would get butts in seats. (not that I'm pushing for it...)

  • June 25, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, you're right. I do get the feeling that a lot of people see this as Batman Part 6 instead of the second movie in a new series.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    the BB tv spots

    by zom-bot.com

    are horrible- to me anyway. all the dumbed-down choppy cuts and one liners, hopefully the only ones in the movie. when the joker says 'i love this job' to himself, i cringe.(and i really want to like this movie)

  • June 25, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Harry's wife

    by BobParr

    I read one of her posts once where she mentioned she was 21 or 22. She could have been fucking with us but I assumed it was true. Getting past Harry's appearance the guy is a total man-child so it would make sense that he would hook up with somebody young. I don't think there are many 35-year-old women who would be interested in a guy that owns a Jar-Jar Binks mask.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson

    by tvspace

    That's a fair comment. And the earlier observations about the revolving Batman door (Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, etc.) are dead-on. Burton's Batman got attention because he did something new with Keaton and Nicholson. Bale doesn't show men anything new and the writing was pedestrian, although I will say the early moments of BB were somewhat interesting. The postings about Michael Bay could be mirrored with "Damn you Joel Schumacher" for taking an interesting franchise and killing it for a new generation of Batman fans.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Why is Harry's sex life so important to you?

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    That is directed at all of you who talk about it. Almost like you are jealous. Fred is jealous -cause Fred get no sex - Freds balls in masion jar. But Fred not want to talk about Harry's sex life. <p> Free Freds balls.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Harry and his wife

    by Damage_Inc

    http://tinyurl.com/5leafr

  • June 25, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Audience awareness for TDK

    by Colonel Activity

    is 100%. 81% of males polled June 10-15 said they were going to see it opening weekend, 66% of women. Audience awareness three weeks before The Incredible Hulk was 49% and 36% for Iron Man. The Dark Knight is supposed to challenge last May's Spider-Man 3 opening. This is according to a site that tracks Box Office, The Weekend Gross. Other reasons why it's opening is going to be huge: Ledger's death, people's generally favorable opinion of Batman Begins, and the fact that Iron Man is a really good movie (gives comic book movies more cred). To think that The Dark Knight will perform like The Incredible Hulk or finish fourth in the Box Office is just fucking stupid. The only movie that has a shot at beating TDK is Wall*E. That's it. Deal with it.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Michael Keaton was all wrong

    by BobParr

    I never understood the love for Tim Burton's BATMAN. It doesn't hold up at all. I don't care how much "intensity" everybody claimed Keaton brought to the role. Bruce Wayne is not a short, skinny, balding man. Stupid rubber muscles!!

  • June 25, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD riddle me this...

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ....well, considering the fact that you're still here - if all the real Batman fans are gone what does that make you? You who's still responding to me, the asshole, and reading his posts to boot? I'm guessing somewhere way waaaaay below, me, an asshole and much much further below a Batman fan (- also more generally known as a loser). Hey look, you're even still reading this post. Yep, loser!

  • June 25, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Fred Balls

    by BobParr

    Perhaps if Harry didn't talk about his personal life all the time we wouldn't feel a need to comment on it. Capone could be getting more ass than Tom Byron but I wouldn't know about it.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST

    colonel, show your work.

    by greenstyle92

    I'd like to discuss this with you, but I can't find the site you claim is called "The weekend gross." Url, please.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    I dont think he meant it's AS GOOD AS Godfather II

    by DoctorWho?

    I think he meant it's the equivalent in terms of a sequel or next chapter. It succeeds as an extension of the first film in the same way. Damn you fanboys are sensitive.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Ah, okay, weekendgross.blogspot.com

    by greenstyle92

    research in progress.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    i meant the TDK tv spots

    by zom-bot.com

    are weak. the only good trailers are in theaters or on the web. 90% of movie going america isn't even hip to all the cool viral stuff batman has done. the stuff on tv is totally cut to cater to them in this last month, and that's really sad. all i can say is thank god there is no mcdonald's tie in like back in the old days of a crystal mug with jim carrey on it. TDK has moved on to classier things like resse's choclate and domino's pizza. (giggles a bit).<P>but in all, the tv spots are cut to make the joker look like a one-lining boob, laughing and driving like that old on-star commercial.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Unknown user, are YOU FUCKING KIDDING me?

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    There are *some* similarities, but your reasonings are laughable. The Joker in the comics has controlled the media before Batman 89. "Joker fucked up his new girlfriends face in 89 and he does this to dent in the new one." First of all, the two events couldn't be more far from each other, and secondly Joker does NOT fuck up Dawes's face. "Batman detroys/burns all the money the Joker stole from the mob and stashed away to control the mobs, and in the trailer you can see that this act pisses the Joker off royally, and thats a lot like Batmans attack on Jokers smiley factory. " UGH. Again, you're making the events sound similar, but they are not at all. You could take Schindler's List and compare it to The Love Guru and come out with the same vague similarities that you have just done here. <p></p> And your conclusion that Nolan is intentionally making references to B89 -- despite being totally wrong -- is laughable because they are adamant about staying as far as possible away from Burton's mess.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Too many spoilers!

    by Wolfman Nards

    Usually I can read just the bottom paragraph in these "reviews" to find out if it's good or not. The obvious answer is the guy says it's good... but HOW good? Rolling Stone Mag gave it 4 1/2 out of 5. But we all know that nobody from Rolling Stone actually saw it.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:54 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser

    by Damage_Inc

    I also noticed similar things in BB. Like "I'm Batman" and also when he was in the Batmobile outrunning the cops while taking the girl to the batcave.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    I think the colonel's statements may have been aimed at me.

    by greenstyle92

    He's had it in for me since that one time I made a credible argument for Burton's Batman, specifically Batman Returns.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    I think he's talking about the pic right after surgery. It's something human eyes should never see.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Colonel Activity

    I forgot to mention the (likely) fantastic reviews it's going to get or the word of mouth. Once again, 55 million is just plain stupid. If a movie about Iron Man can make 98 million opening weekend, a movie about Batman, which will (probably) receive rave reviews, featuring a Joker whose performance is already creating Oscar-buzz for the deceased actor portraying him, and has been marketed for over a fucking year will make...well, you decide. And if you come up with 55 million dollars opening weekend; find the receipt for your brain and exchange it for a hamster's. You got ripped off, bro.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    The article is sort of self defeating.

    by greenstyle92

    audience awareness was greater for Hulk but Iron Man did better? by that logic, Dark Knight will do the worst! --or, more realistically, these numbers are as predictive as the blogger hopes they are.

  • June 25, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    GLOVE: per harry's pic

    by zom-bot.com

    it was in some thread about him recovering from surgery. he was sitting in front of a computer (big surprise there) lifting his shirt to show his belly bandaging, and he just looked all pink and shiny and swollen all over, like a premie baby with thin skin barely holding in the blood and water. but he was grinning like a loon and giving a thumbs up or something. it's probably too archived to go diggin' for.

  • June 25, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser

    by Damage_Inc

    Oh yeah and the corrupt cop who was a fat slob was similar too.

  • June 25, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    Used the 55 mil figure, confirmed it's aimed at me.

    by greenstyle92

    Batman Begins only made 48 mil. But that's Joel Schumacker's fault, isn't it? I'm speaking from experience. Back in the day, I hoped Begins would have a triple digit weekend. It didn't. And it wasn't that good anyway.<br> <br> You dripping cunt ball. Again, nothing personal.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I might that

    by Colonel Activity

    55 million is a stupid projection. You people need to look at the big picture. How many people actually remember Batman and Robin? It's ten years old. How many people even know who Schumacher is? You guys are thinking in fanboy terms only. It myopic and, to be truthful, a bit pathetic.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    greenstyle92

    by Damage_Inc

    Dude, I remember that argument you made for BR. I forgot about that.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    TDK will make money.

    by zom-bot.com

    lots and lots of money. more money from one theater in town in one night than you make in a year.<P> more money from the theaters in your area in the first week than many of you will make in your life.<P>more money nationwide than you could ever hope to win in the lottery.<P>how does that make you feel? pretty shitty, huh?

  • June 25, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST

    hey, I just cribbed on of your arguments

    by greenstyle92

    I seem to recall you shouting til your were blue in the face that the reason that Begins' numbers weren't-so-stellar was because it was hurt by B&R. That's what I was referencing. you chocolate and almond encrusted turd. (nothing personal.)

  • June 25, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    TDK

    by Damage_Inc

    No one can argue that Elfman's theme wasn't totally better than anything we've heard in the Nolan series. One of the best and most iconic themes ever.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com, meh, it might.

    by greenstyle92

    It's certainly in the realm of possibility. And I'm already dealing with people thinking Nolan is the second coming, so it can't make my situation much worse...

  • June 25, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Great logic, Greenstyle.

    by Colonel Activity

    Since Iron Man outperformed the Hulk, yet had lower audience awareness, than Batman will rake in less. Never mind the superior brand recognition, the superior marketing, the superior cast...no, The Dark Knight will surely drop from its 100% awareness. 81% of those polls will decide that your logic wins out in the end. Or, just maybe, even MORE people will want to see it in the upcoming 3 weeks, as the marketing will really ramp up. Maybe that's what happened with Iron Man. Not sure. I'll go with your line of thinking. Asshole.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    makes me feel shitty too though

    by zom-bot.com

    it wasn't meant to bash all your box office predictions, but to step out of it and realize how crazy the big picture is, and how it sucks to be one of the peasants that helps fund the out of control entertainment monster.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by Damage_Inc

    That's an unfair comparison. Iron Man has been out for 3 months, Hulk has only been out 2 weeks.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Definitely opening over $120 million....

    by wildphantom07

    It is going to be insane. If Warners get this out in 4,200 theaters they really could challenge Spidey's record. <p> Right now the only movie that could possibly top it at the box office come the end of the summer is Wall-E as DK is gonna storm past $300 million.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Off to work!

    by greenstyle92

    I love me a Batman Talk Back. This is all I've been doing all day, but sadly work beckons.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Come to think of it....

    by Damage_Inc

    What the fuck is the big summer movie for the 4th of July weekend anyway?

  • June 25, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    iron man had lower audience awareness?

    by zom-bot.com

    do you mean the public's initial lack of knowledge about iron man? because Iron man was a teaser/preview/tv spot juggernaut WHORE. i couldn't step outside without hearing a fucking bird chirp 'iron man iron man'. while the hulk wasn't even advertised on tv until like two weeks before release, and showed the majority of web clips AFTER the release. Hulk was underpromoted, more people thought it was a sequel to ang lee's which they didn't remember fondly, not a reboot. iron man was showing so many clips of the movie you could have compiled them into a bootleg dvd.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    damage i believe...

    by RKO2285

    that would be Hancock..

  • June 25, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    RKO2285

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, that's what I just thought about. That's kind of funny that TDK gets a mid July release while Hand on my Cock gets the big movie weekend. Maybe Nolan was scared of little Willy.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    I've seen it too...

    by frozensnake

    This guy, obviously not Tim Bisley from Spaced, has seen it alright. I did feel it was a little long however this may have been that the screening was at 9am! Again without giving away too much, there are actually a couple of deaths in it, not counting cannon fodder. Enjoy it when its out. Cant believe I've to wait a month to see it again!!!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    The biggest similarity between Burton's and Nolan's Batman movie

    by Mosquito March

    ...is the fucking suit. I wish they had found a way to make some practical body armor that doesn't just look like the same black rubber suit from BATMAN '89. I'm all for the real-world concept, but the execution looks like it still isn't there. I love BEGINS and I'm looking forward to TDK, but goddammit - Nolan did nothing to Burton's outfit but get rid of the yellow bat symbol and add a bunch of straps and shit. Otherwise, it's just as awkward looking. And I still don't see why he can't be black and gray. If he needs to "disappear" in the dark, he's got a giant black cape. Oh, well - at least they do away with the "panther neck" cowl in this one. Maybe Bale can turn around without the sides of his mask pushing his face around.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    my ass

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    This is a movie that I'm really excited about. In the end, it's a fucking Batman movie. Superhero movies can be great fucking movies. Some of them will someday be called classics. Some of them already are. But for this fucking plant to compare it to the Godfather Part II? Give me a fucking break. Most would agree that Godfather II is one of the ultimate masterpieces of cinema. It's personally my favorite movie. I never pass it up when it's on, no matter what my plans are. Will the same be said thirty five years from now about TDK? It's a fucking Batman movie you over the top plant fucker!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    more reasons iron man beat hulk

    by zom-bot.com

    character design was released really early. not to mention clips. did i mention clips out the ass? also buzz about robert downey jr really nailing stark. and clips. like 3 new clips a day. a commercial every commercial break on every channel. so even people who have no idea about a marvel comic called iron man, at least saw all the promotions and thought - that looks like a fun movie.<P>hulk had alot against it. a misunderstood reboot of a movie barely 5 years old. no hulk images released until right before the flm drops- probably because they anticipated heated debated about cg looks, comparisons to last movie, etc. then the only real press on it was that norton wasn't happy with it. why would people want to go see something that the main actor was seemingly turning his nose up at? even if it later turned out to be not the case, it tainted it.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    I'm not gonna waste time in a hancock TB

    by zom-bot.com

    it'd be like sitting around over describing how a turd is brown and smelly and analyzing all the little nuts and bubbles in it when you should just flush it and forget it. seriously, not worth the time, though i'm sure it will be colorful and fun.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    frozensnake

    by Damage_Inc

    If you're telling the truth, tell us who the major character deaths are. All the geeks are gone, no one here gives a shit about reading spoilers.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    It's screening tomorrow at 10:30AM in NYC, too

    by slone13

    Just sayin'...

  • June 25, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    Come on, they would never do that in only the second movie.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:34 p.m. CST

    frozensnake

    by Damage_Inc

    So how bout it? Spill.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    hancock will still make loads of money..

    by RKO2285

    no matter how bad it is... I actually seen people excited over this movie.. good lord

  • June 25, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by Damage_Inc

    What site did you see that on?

  • June 25, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    gordon's son? killed?

    by zom-bot.com

    because this is only his first wife, barbara hasn't even been born yet, and i don't remember him having a son, though he's described as having some scenes in this flick.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    can't wait for parents to explain

    by zom-bot.com

    what hancock is shooting through the walls of his trailer in the sex scene. i mean i might go sit in a showing just to see the family discomfort.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    RKO2285

    by Damage_Inc

    No shit. It must be the "brilliant marketing". That holiday weekend seems to be the only thing going for it.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    ah spoilers!

    by RKO2285

    "trying to avoid all of this but I can't"

  • June 25, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    damage

    by RKO2285

    lol yea... Im really hoping that movie bombs

  • June 25, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Harry's wife fantasizes about...

    by yoko knowles

    Alain Delon, James Mcavoy, Herc, Shia Labeouf, Scarlett Johansson, Stephen Colbert, Robert Redford. and Richard Kelly.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    "MGMLXXVI" is not the real "Damn you, Bay" guy

    by finky089

    The original "Damn You, Michael Bay" guys was "MCMLXXVI". Maybe he chanegd his handle, but I doubt it b/c I just saw him in a TINO Talkback in the last week. Hell, he's probably in the most recent one, but I haven't looked. <p> Accept no imitations!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    yoko knowles

    by Damage_Inc

    Does Harry know about this?

  • June 25, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    surprisingly good interview

    by zom-bot.com

    with the dude playing the crime lord 'gambol' here<P> http://www.blackfilm.com/20080620/features/mjwinterview.shtml<P> he talks about how heath sometimes wore the costume on days where he wasn't even filming joker scenes. remember what i said about going too deep? <P>ALSO- snap! busted by mrs. knowles! ha ha and only like 40 minutes later. tee hee. hey what's up.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Dickblood

    by finky089

    Nice roll you were on today. See ya 'round.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    Damn, will you post that again with tinyurl? It's so long I can't even find all the spaces.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    He's aware

    by yoko knowles

    He likes it best when I moan "Herc" real soft like.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    here ya go

    by zom-bot.com

    http://tinyurl.com/42jqho

  • June 25, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Ewwwwwwww

    by Damage_Inc

    Too much information!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    moaning 'herc'

    by zom-bot.com

    because it's the only way he can focus on herc during his own fantasy

  • June 25, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Dannyglovers

    by yoko knowles

    Come clean my house for me before Harry gets back from London, and I'll see what I can do.

  • June 25, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    does harry make you wear...

    by zom-bot.com

    a leia slave outfit ever? or any batgirl/harley/wonder woman or otherwise comic or movie fetish gear? if not, then i have lost any respect i had for him.<P> if you do, then rock on harry!

  • June 25, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Heath

    by Lance4431

    Heath's death....it really, really sucks.

  • June 25, 2008, 6 p.m. CST

    A one-eyed AMH?

    by a rolling stone

    I've watched the Mike Engel bit where AMH reports on Batman, but c'mon!! This is the role that's supposed to be an anti-Batman, million dollar secret? I feel like it's a red herring. I feel like AMH has more going on in this film than the role of a nobody reporter...and I can't get that Slade Wilson action figure out of my mind. I know, I know--I'm reaching, but dudes. How cool would it be if Slade popped in for a fight-scene? I'd be happy.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    harry owns novelty underwear

    by zom-bot.com

    adult underoos. he has to.i mean come on. again, if he doesn't, there goes another respect point.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Dannyglovers

    by yoko knowles

    You have like 4 hours.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    i'd be happy if...

    by zom-bot.com

    AMH/mike engel drew a big question mark on a picture of batman at some point.i just need me some riddler, somewhere at some point, in a serious manner (not hammy). although this 'reese' kid that supposedly breaks into wayne's penthouse for mike engel seems odd. <P> last name reese. <P> Mr. reese. <P>mysteries?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    a cameo of shia labeouf as dick grayson!

    by wattos new hat

    OMG, did i read that correctly?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST

    No kids allowed

    by a rolling stone

    I'm glad this thing isn't kid-friendly. Gotham isn't kid-friendly. The Joker isn't kid-friendly. Two-Face isn't kid-friendly. Art should not be sacrificed for finance-a mistake Hollywood continues to make.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    Thanks, that was a pretty good interview. I think Ledger went a little bit mad while he was filming it.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    DANNY the GLOVE

    by zom-bot.com

    ask her about that autographed ledger photo with the solitary drop of man love on it, since she seems to respond only to you.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    zom bot

    by a rolling stone

    Yeah, I'd take the Riddler, too. But you're right. No corny Riddler. A real hustler who plays Batman and the cops like a chess game. That'd be cool. I just freaked when I saw the Deathstroke action-figure, since he would fit with the mood and tone of what's going on, plus he would do mob hits. He works. Probably a red herring, though.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    damage inc

    by zom-bot.com

    yeah that interview was like, the best i've read from those involved. i got more from that guy than oldman or eckhardt have let slip. i really do think the role changed heath. it can't be denied. while i don't blame the film for his death, you can't deny it really sounds like he was affected. and that speaks volumes of his hidden abilities, as well as the power of the joker character.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    What are you even referring to with that? And we need to know, did Harry really tremble and cry during Indy 4? If so, was it scary?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Hilarious reading all these loser Batman fans...

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    .......deluding themselves of $120 million opening weekend gross' and shit like that. What in Jack Nicholson's medicine cabinet are you guys smoking? LOL! Kinda reminds me of a couple of years ago when Firefly fans kept deluding themselves that Serenity was going to be the new Titanic, in terms of the B.O. gross in was going to make. Or a couple of years ago when another set of deluded DC fans sold themselves on the grand hallucination that Superman Returns would do "Spidey-like numbers" at the Box Office on its opening weekend. Massawyrm actually wanted to challenge me to a fight, when I pointed out just how daft and idiotic that was; even in theory. It's just too bad reality prove me wrong as SR barely sputtered and stumbled to its $200 million "production budget" long after 6 months after its release. And now it looks like it's the turn of the Batman fans to make fools of themselves. This movie will be lucky to even make $50million, much less the $80 that Iron Man did; without competition the likes of Hellboy 2, Hancock, Wanted, Wall-E et al.<p>$120 Million - My ass. What. A. Bunch. Of. Morons. ROFLMAO. This should be fun.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Zom-bot

    by yoko knowles

    Address me. It helps.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    I mean the autographed ledger photo with the solitary drop of man love on it

  • June 25, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    yoko knowles

    by Damage_Inc

    When does Harry get back?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Harry gets back

    by yoko knowles

    soonish.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:17 p.m. CST

    damage

    by zom-bot.com

    dannyglover made great reference to a crying harry dropping load on a heath pic earlier today. it was disturbing yet hilarious. <P>yoko, i prefer to speak to you through my interpreter/counsel, DGDB for legal reasons.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    my god i've been on here all day

    by zom-bot.com

    it got me through work but now i'm home. time to make some dinner. later kids. zom gotta eat!

  • June 25, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Did someone say HANCOCK? FUCK THAT SHIT!!

    by Puddleglum

    Will Smith is an attention-whoring no-talent asspickle. BOYCOTT HANCOCK!

  • June 25, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Damage_Inc

    Yeah, I remember that but I thought it was a reference to something else.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    BOYCOTT HANCOCK!

    by Damage_Inc

    I second the motion.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    BOYCOTT HANCOCK! BOYCOTT HANCOCK!

    by Puddleglum

    That fuckin movie looks SO bad it makes my eyes bleed. WHy does everyone yuck it up whenever a trailer appears. It looks utterly TERRIBLE and unoriginal. <p> PLEASE STOP GIVING WILL SMITH YOUR MONEY! <p> Unless he goes old school and makes another Fresh Prince/DJ Jazzy Jeff alblum.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Hi Mrs. Knowles

    by Puddleglum

    Please tell me at least you aren't "looking forward" to seeing Han-fuckin-Cock. <p> PS- zom.bot, I heard it was HARRY who wore the slave Leia outfit in the marriage. Yoko, can you confirm?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:26 p.m. CST

    harry was leia, yoko was jabba?

    by zom-bot.com

    well, reversal is a form of role play too.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Hancock

    by yoko knowles

    Not sure what to think about it honestly. I've heard mixed stuff.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    What has been your gut reaction to the trailers?

    by Puddleglum

    It just seems so self-important and stupid. I'm not sure what is a more distrubing sign of the (movie) times: people laughing out loud at Hancock trailers or those laughing outloud at the Love Guru trailers? <p> I think they all need to be removed fro mthis planet for the good of humankind.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    AICN hacked

    by Jason B. Swaim

    Has this site been hacked or what?

  • June 25, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra...

    by Dark Knight Lite

    You're delusional if you think TDK will make less than $80 mil it's opening weekend. Awareness + curiosity about Ledger's performance + Begins stellar performance on video will equal possibly the biggest opening of the year. Check back with me on July 21. One of us will have a crow sandwich waiting. Dark Knight Out.

  • June 25, 2008, 6:48 p.m. CST

    TDK will own.

    by BLEST

    As one who works with youth group teens aged 12-21...trust me. <p>They ALL want to go see it. <p>It's all over myspace and stuff when you log in. We know that EVERYBODY in the geek community is going to see it, the general public is aware through ads/trailers and unfortunately because of Heath Ledger's passing, it's listed as "most anticipated" on all kinds of mainstream media (EW weekly, MSN movies, etc...)and it will have all the fans who made it break dvd records coming back for more.<P> 85-100 mil opening weekend, easily. 325-350 domestic, 150-225 foreign = 425-575 world wide.<p> Conservatively. It may well be more.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:04 p.m. CST

    The 50 million range

    by Colonel Activity

    Is just stupid stupid stupid. If The Incredible Hulk makes 50 some million opening weekend, TDK will make over 100 million...I'm going with 120 million for opening weekend. That's a low estimate.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    thank u...

    by RKO2285

    saying TDK is going to make less than $80 million is asine... this movie is anticpated for a lot of reasons and will no doubt be huge.. and I also want to say that I also boycott Hancock.. fuck that movie

  • June 25, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Yoko, you gonna start reviewing stuff on here?

    by terry1978

    May as well, I know they're gonna haze you eventually.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST

    TDK tv spot 6..

    by RKO2285

    anybody seen this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=n4BjTDvJ6wQ

  • June 25, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Mrs. Knowles!!

    by BobParr

    If you somehow swing a 3-way with you, Harry and Scarlett Johanssen I am going to have to shoot myself. Please have Harry call her a shitty actress while he's mounting her. He could just say it was "dirty talk".

  • June 25, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    thanks for breaking up the beatles!

    by Prossor

    and then covering it with the wafting rotten cunt stench of a a "natural" and "eventual" breakup. oh and i am the walrus. koo koo ka joo.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    120 million

    by Damage_Inc

    Nothing less. I'd bet on it.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Still laughing......

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ...uproariously. At you batfans. Now we all know where the prhase 'batshit crazy' comes from. RE: Batman Begins:- "It did well on Video". Now where else did I hear that one before? Oh yeah, Serenity. Now, what other crap did I hear from the whole Serenity bandwagon, - which is being spouted all over again here as well? ......."possibly the biggest opening of the year"....... yeah, we and all know how that worked out for Serenity at the end. Now I'm not saying TDK will be anywhere as abysmal or ludicrous as Serenity was in terms of the hype that the fans fed themselves, but it certainly isn't the Citizen Kane that you nitwits are trying to make it out to be. Here's another one for you guys. If Sex and the City couldn't break $60 Million, then there's no way this movie will either. YES, I just compared TDK to SATC - sounds about right. Keep dreaming fools.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    no dissing of lord of the rings?

    by zom-bot.com

    good point, i wonder.<P> i can't think of a movie in the past 10 years that didn't disappoint in some way or other, though.<P> some people would bitch that heaven was too bright or perfect. <P>some people just want to watch the world burn.<P> some people just need to get laid.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:38 p.m. CST

    hey jett

    by zom-bot.com

    BOF, right? always good to see you drop in the bat talkbacks and state facts

  • June 25, 2008, 7:41 p.m. CST

    I'll wager $115 million opening weekend...

    by The Dum Guy

    At least $40 mil on Fri.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    serenity/batman = apples/pussy

    by zom-bot.com

    not even the same thing. serenity...most people didn't even know what it was. firefly and serenity only had the whedon geeks going for it. I didn't see much firefly, but i caught serenity on cable, and yeah. i wish firefy had caught on more. but don't compare serenity dvd sales to batman sales.<P> ask a 5 year old what serenity is. ask a 30 year old woman. ask an old man. now ask anyone on earth what batman is.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Long Live Ledger.

    by BrightEyes

  • June 25, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    benditlikelucas

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ...not the movies, but rather the pre-release hype in proportion to the general delusion suffered by each respective set of fans. In both cases you actually have the fans referencing and talking about Titanic like numbers. What does that tell you? Any Studio exec will tell you straight up now that Titanic's success at the B.O. will likely never be replicated thanks to how cost of ticket prices, the way movies are released a nowadays and also the unique nature of Titanic's core demographic. And yet, geniuses here are talking about $160 Million openings, with consecutive $50 Million day takes. In what Universe? And the justification for this? Apparently because Batman Begins "did well" on video. Whatever that means. You'll have to ask Serenity fans about that one as well. Like I said before, the only other time I ever witnessed this general level of delusion (and frankly speaking, moronosity) was prior to Serenity's release and then again prior to Superman Returns release. Both those movies where, objectively speaking, shit sandwiches. One of them likely re-lobotomized a franchise after a 20 year long coma. If Superman, who is a much bigger name and way bigger hero than Batman, and which had a way higher anticipation level than this Batman movie, couldn't pull more than $100 million on its opening weekend, what gives anyone the license to hallucinate on $160 Million openings for a second tier "super" hero?

  • June 25, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST

    benditlikelucas

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ...not the movies, but rather the pre-release hype in proportion to the general delusion suffered by each respective set of fans. In both cases you actually have the fans referencing and talking about Titanic like numbers. What does that tell you? Any Studio exec will tell you straight up now that Titanic's success at the B.O. will likely never be replicated thanks to how cost of ticket prices, the way movies are released a nowadays and also the unique nature of Titanic's core demographic. And yet, geniuses here are talking about $160 Million openings, with consecutive $50 Million day takes. In what Universe? And the justification for this? Apparently because Batman Begins "did well" on video. Whatever that means. You'll have to ask Serenity fans about that one as well. Like I said before, the only other time I ever witnessed this general level of delusion (and frankly speaking, moronosity) was prior to Serenity's release and then again prior to Superman Returns release. Both those movies where, objectively speaking, shit sandwiches. One of them likely re-lobotomized a franchise after a 20 year long coma. If Superman, who is a much bigger name and way bigger hero than Batman, and which had a way higher anticipation level than this Batman movie, couldn't pull more than $100 million on its opening weekend, what gives anyone the license to hallucinate on $160 Million openings for a second tier "super" hero? Again I laugh; laugh loudly and uproariously at these fools in their fits of delusion and stupidity.

  • June 25, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    .......so right I had to post it twice.

    by Kai_Mah'gra

  • June 25, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Wait a minute. Batman is a "second tier super hero"?<P>You're an idiot.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    superman/batman- who's better to public?

    by zom-bot.com

    i wonder who sells more underoos, videos, dvds, toys, comics (heck who has more comic branches- batman!) superman is the most well known, because the the original, and god-like. but who is the most popular? i'd say no contest, batman.most kids would rather be batman with all the cool shit and disguise than superman with all the powers. superman's media peak was the 70's and eighties. but ever since batman was reinvented as a darker, more troubled person,and erased the camp 60's stuff, he's taken the lead. kids still like superman because of flying and the primary colors, but every kid i know wants to be batman. i'm sure there's fascinating research on it, if not there should be.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:09 p.m. CST

    furthermore...

    by zom-bot.com

    people can roll call batman villians like nobody's business. ask anybody on the street and they can name at least three. joker. penguin. catwoman.if they are crafty, riddler and two-face.<P> ask the same random person for superman villains and they'll say lex luthor. most don't know braniac, bizarro, solomon grundy...heck i can't even name any more.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Couldn't get past this line:

    by Howling_Fantods

    "and I absolutely can't see a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen." I mean, I thought I knew what you were trying to say, but then . . . what?

  • June 25, 2008, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Sex and the city compared to TDK..

    by RKO2285

    What? how can u compare the two... TDK has a much broader appeal than sex in the city... the only people seeing that shit fest were women..

  • June 25, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    batman's appeal

    by zom-bot.com

    is that he's human. not kryptonian. not amazonian. not martian. not a hawk person. doesn't have a space ring.<P> he's just someone we could all be if we took a negative and turned it into a positive and became all that we could be.<P> we's inspired generations of people to become policemen, soldiers, paramedics, inventors, artists...superman is good in a mythic sense, but no on can relate to him. he's basically a space jesus...but his reasons for doing what he does is weak. he protects us because he feels sorry for us? batman wants to protect the little guy,but follows a human set of laws. superman feel it's his duty and only he can save humanity from itself, and when he can't, he gets all moody. If the two were forms of government, batman would be a libertarian and superman would be communism....which is what made some of those dark elseworlds (or whatever) stories so good- how easily superman could be corrupted into a strict, dictatorlike force.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    HE'S inspired generations.. i meant

    by zom-bot.com

    and by HE i meant batman.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:44 p.m. CST

    by hulkbuster

    why does every good review about a movie people are excited about equal a plant to half you morons

  • June 25, 2008, 8:49 p.m. CST

    wow

    by Colonel Activity

    Batman is far more popular than Superman. In under 20 years, there have been 6 Batman films. Superman? 1 movie. The hype for this film began last spring. The marketing has been ingenius. The positive buzz is overwhelming. Batman Begins did better on video/DVD than in the theater because people didn't know the quality of the film. After a poor initial opening, word of mouth led to 205 million domestic. An opening of 48 million turned into 205? Great word of mouth. The Dark Knight will pull in 120 million.

  • June 25, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Ledger must win the Oscar

    by pipergates

    he must

  • June 25, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    batman/superman and the female audience

    by zom-bot.com

    some more psychology for ya:<P> batman attracts a larger female fanbase (maybe too strong a term, might should be 'women willing to see a batman movie with their boyfriends) -becasue batman is the bad boy loner. the wounded, quiet, mysterious rebel that they want to try to heal or change. he could leave at the drop of a hat for something more important, but he's very passionate. as bruce wayne he offers the security of wealth and glamour. he may be a bit of a jerk sometimes, but he's the richest guy in town!<P> superman represents the 'nice guy', who, while even very attractive may be too clingy or 'too perfect'. he is willing to do anything to please you, and can and will, but gets taken for granted. he is the good friend that a woman doesn't ruin a friendship over. he's the guy that the woman complains about her other relationships to. he's the classic 'nice guy'.<P>this is no better represented by the treatment of clark kent- who is constantly brushed off by lois lane.<P> long story short, women are a factor to consider in batman sales more than any other superhero.

  • June 25, 2008, 9 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS DICK

    by Sicuv Uyall

    I think your making a great effort on your petition to make the girls on Busted Tees bottomless. I hope that will fill in the void in your life, as well as the other countless 15 year old perverts here on the internet. Remember, keep it off the streets, Dickblood!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Has everyone seen

    by Colonel Activity

    the TV spot where the Joker says, "Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order. Well, then everybody loses their minds!" The last line sounds absolutely psychotic...

  • June 25, 2008, 9:05 p.m. CST

    i like the joker line

    by zom-bot.com

    (and i paraphrase) when the chips are down- these people will eat each other- i'll show ya.. <P>very true. i believe it too. i'm awaiting the riots in the streets of a societal collapse at some point. high gas, high food, joblessness, it's coming.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Alfreds Secret

    by Duffer63

    It concerns a letter that Rachel gives to him that she she says to give to him at the appropriate time. He says how will I know. She says its open. Its been fun reading all the comments to my review and it amazes me how fast it has spread across the interweb. Perez Hilton WTF? Its this simple folks it is in my opinion THE BEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE EVER FILMED. If you disagree its also this simple you cant because you havent seen it. Chris Nolan and Chris Bale are 3 for 3 and I cant wait to see what they do for their fourth.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    I have faith

    by a rolling stone

    After seeing everything I've seen, my hopes for this movie are high. Nolan respects continuity, tone, mood, and plotline. And I've always felt the villain makes the movie. Doesn't look like this movie's lacking in the bad guy department.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    You can't tease us like that. Please tell us what the letter is all about.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    It conserns who she has decided to be with in terms of the love triangle. Chris Nolan again proves himself to be a great writer with how he decides to use it.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Come on. At this point I'm sure nobody cares about spoilers.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Thanks.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    My pleasure. Trust me , your going to love it. Its very rare that I actually love a movie. I always get way too excited and build up the expectations so high that I just get let down. Id imagine that it is like that for a lot of people on this site. This one is different and I am bloody grateful for that. I look forward to the talkback on opening day.

  • June 25, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    One more question. Do you see anything in TDK that makes you believe that the third one will be as good. (actors, plotline, cliffhangers, etc.)Or might it be your typical crap third movie in a series. Of course we all know about Dent, but is there anything else?

  • June 25, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Are you still here?

  • June 25, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    just curious

    by juice willis

    do you fucksticks who continually try to equate box office performance with quality do the same with music and other media? itunes chocked full of pop princesses and over-produced spanker rock? realize that the tastes of the average western filmgoer/media consumer are questionable at best.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    In my opinion with the talent that is involved with this film and the way they speak about it they will make a great third film. Saying that there is no way of knowing. I think it will be a few years off no matter how much money this makes.They dont set up the third film like they did The Dark Knight with the introduction of The Joker. He is still alive as is the Scarecrow at the end of the film. I imagine that before Heath Ledger died that he and the Scarecrow would have been invloved in some way in the third.There is one character within the film who threatens to reveal Batmas identity but who Bruce saves who could go onto become someone. Infact now that I think about it they could be perhaps setting him up as The Riddler. The franchise is in very capable hands though so fingers crossed we finally get a comic book trilogy that gets better with each one.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Iron Man did $98 million opening weekend, right?

    by tbransonlives

    $100 million easy for TDK.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I just responded

    by Colonel Activity

    to that weirdo who thinks that TDK will do the same box office as The Incredible Hulk. That shit is too stupid not to comment on. As far as BO equaling quality, I have one word: Transformers. Nuff said.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Cool. Someone asked you a question a long time ago and I didn't read far enough ahead to find your answer. Are you familiar with The Killing Joke?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    I hope

    by Colonel Activity

    that Calender Man is the villain for the third film. That would be brillant. Maxie Zeus makes a cameo appearance.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    Didnt see that question. I am familiar with it.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    adam west=sean connery of batman

    by Prossor

    greenstyle you wrote: "to an entire generation. That doesn't really exist anymore though. Keaton, then, Kilmer, then Clooney, and now Bale... why get attached? The closest thing is Kevin Conroy, who to a whole generation is the VOICE of Batman, but even then that's not really the same... <p> If they announced a Batman Beyond movie with Adam West playing the elderly Bruce Wayne, THAT would get butts in seats. (not that I'm pushing for it...)" <p> i agree he IS the most iconic to portray to this day. Not only that he is the original in spirit just like Sean Connery was the original Bond, of course there was someone to portray batman during WWII to fight those evil japs, but he's some fuck nobody. Just like there was a TV movie of an actor playing Bond in the 50s no one knows about. West's combined screentime outweighs the combined screentime of any of the other actors mere movies. something else i noticed is the law of the role-owning where someone will always be seen more strongly as that character and vice versa if their claim to fame is that one role. by that i mean adam west has no real other standout roles but batman. he IS batman. the rest of the actors however you immediately think abou something else they've been in, like keaton is beetlejuice, then it gets worse with kilmer, he IS chris shirherlis, he's iceman, he's in that ZAZ movie, true romance. and cripes for clooney who's trying to drown out his bat role with many more highprofile things, christian bale is already stamped into our minds as patrick bateman, equilibrium, john connor, and now freakin robin hood. The point is whenever you see them in black cape the power is diluted because you can picture them as other well known character, NOT SO for Mr. West, who achieved minor cult status in b-fare like Crusoe on Mars, or Zombie Nightmare and other TV, but he IS the onscreen Batman and Bats is he. now cripes i'm guessing this has turned into a giant wall of text by now.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:18 p.m. CST

    agent johnson

    by juice willis

    i'm not saying a film has to tank commercially to validate itself artistically? far from it. but why should I as an individual give two shits what the average joe/modern audience member thinks? especially when I am fully aware of my tastes in film/music/art and where they fall in regard to "popular" tastes. that being said, i really want to see this movie.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    So does TDK follow the storyline of that comic in any way? That's something people have been talking about for a long time.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Going spoiler free on this one

    by zooch

    Not going to read a single thing til I see it for myself. Talk to me after July 18th.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Hey Duffer63

    by Colonel Activity

    Is the Joker pissed at his daddy? Both you and Travers mentioned it. Also, do we see the Joker as seen through the eyes of someone on fear gas?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    ROLLING STONE has a review...

    by JackIsLost

    Stopped just short of declaring it the greatest movie ever. I'm psyched for this one!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    best of both worlds

    by zom-bot.com

    the first two spiderman movies, iron man, debateably batman begins, and now it would seem TDK prove that there can be an adaptation that fanboys or purists, as well as the 'dumb average audience' both like. nothing wrong with that. it's progress.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Dance my puppets....dance!!!!!

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ......just look at them get all worked up into a frenzy simply because someone dared to point out the obvious to them. I say again:- What. A. Bunch. Of. Losers. It must really reaaaally suck to know that your Batman isn't going to do anywhere near the numbers of a potential suckfest movie like Hancock. (it probably sucks more to be a Batman fan, period, but hey) Yeah, that's right. Will Smith is GUARANTEED to uber-outgross Bale even with a suckfest of a movie in Hancock. That's like getting your ass bitch-slapped by a guy with his hand tied behind his back. So just to re-cap TDK will not be the number one Superhero movie of 2008 (it's still a toss-up between Iron Man and depending on whatever Big Willie can pull in on the 4th of July Weekend); TDK will not be the number 3 superhero movie 2008 (Likely to be Hellboy2), TDK will probably most likely not even be the number FOUR Superhero movie - that's right, it probably will get it's butt handed to it by Incredible Hulk. IF we even consider Indiana Jones a hero of sorts you can go ahead and drop that Batcrap all the way out of the top 5 hero movies of 2008. But that's okay folks, it will do well on DVD and video sales. Rrrrright. Just like Firefly......er...... I mean Serenity, and.....um... Superman Returns. Again I say: I laugh at all your sorry asses. Laugh hard. I mean, I'm really really reaaally trying my utmost to conjure up some sympathy and feel sorry for you losers, but all that comes out is this merciless, uproarious and hearty laugh. Loud too. $100 Million. HA!!!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST

    The craziest aspect of the TV show

    by Colonel Activity

    villains was that would always have overside shit just laying around to kill and/or turn people into food with. Why not just kill 'em? What a bunch of crazy fucks!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:26 p.m. CST

    zooch

    by Sawney Bean

    Sorry dude, but you're in the wrong talkback for staying spoiler free.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    You can tell it was a source of inspiration for The Dark Knight. The Joker is far more focused on bringing down Harvey Dent than Gordan though. His motivation is still the same though. I think I could be on to something with The Riddler though. I cant find the actor on IMDB and he has a large enough role to play within the film. He is an employee within Wayne Enterprises who doesnt like Bruce Waynes flamboyant lifestyle and when doing accounts discoverers over spending for Wayne Enterprises and also blue prints for the Batmobile. He threatens to blackmail Bruce for ten million a year. Fox tells him this isnt a good idea. He then goes on national television and says he will reveal who Batman is. Its kinda of simillar to The Riddler's story isnt it? I cant remember the characters name.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST

    that should be

    by Colonel Activity

    "they would always have"

  • June 25, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    losers?

    by zom-bot.com

    why am i a loser because a seemingly good movie may not make as much money with the retarded normals as hancock will, which you must already have your ticket for or something. TDK could make 2 dollars and i wouldn't give a shit. why is this place always about comparisons?<P> oh shit, i know, too many tiny dicks in here.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by Duffer63

    He makes only one reference to his father but the way Heath delivers it you can tell he has some serious issues. He does an impression of how his father used to speak to him and his voice is fucking scary when it changes. You dont see The Joker through any fear gas. You dont get that point of view at all within the film if I remember correctly.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Did you see my questions Duffer?

    by Colonel Activity

    Hmmmm? And that Kai whatever guy has got to be joking...

  • June 25, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    the blackmailer is named REESE

    by zom-bot.com

    and i would assume is a mister. mister reese? mysteries? sounds like a start. i thought reese was a detective or reporter for mike engel, but being a rat for waynetech sounds good too.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Are you talking about Anthony Michael Hall, the guy from The Dead Zone TV Show Series?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Right on

    by Colonel Activity

    What are you projecting as far as word of mouth and/or box office for this flick. Take in consideration Iron Man...

  • June 25, 2008, 10:34 p.m. CST

    anthony micheal hall is Engel

    by zom-bot.com

    reese is played by joshua harto, some newb nobody.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    WAIT!

    by Colonel Activity

    I can't believe I haven't asked this: just how bad is Dent's scarring?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    johnson

    by juice willis

    good luck with the speed racer sequel. for the record i dug it as well. think it was just a matter of "feeling" what they were going for with it. i'm still waiting for my flash gordon (1980) follow-up using the same production design, soundtrack, etc. <p>Duffer63 - you've been a gentleman and a scholar in your handling of this talkback...but, I think you need to cut these guys off.</p>

  • June 25, 2008, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Not AMH

    by Duffer63

    He plays a tv reporter whos show airs footage of The Joker and who has the employee on his show. Maybe it is Reese but IMDB says he is playing a detective and that threw me a little but I did think it was that actor when I saw his photo.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Juice Willis

    by Duffer63

    Thank you. I do agree with you. It amazes me how much people want to know about this film. They want every detail which will only hinder their experience of the final product. I already feel like Ive pandered to the masses far too much and have given away more than I should but I figure at this stage its only people trawling for spoilers in a talkback with this many posts in it.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to this.

    by mrfan

    Just as I did with Iron Man and the Hulk. Love the superhero movies. Also looking forward to Hellboy 2

  • June 25, 2008, 10:41 p.m. CST

    no more spoilers, yeah

    by zom-bot.com

    i think anybody smart enough has enough to go with for the next month, thanks!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    So with all these plots and subplots going, this movie doesn't seem crowded at all? Does everything fit together?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I just want to know

    by Colonel Activity

    about the Dent scars, man! Tell me the extent! Good God, MAN, TELL ME!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    There is a hell of a lot going on but it all fits together. It all adds up to make something special. You have nothing to worry about. I think Im gonna call it quits. Ill answer one more q if any of you have any before I hit the hay.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    SCARS!!!!

    by Colonel Activity

    What about the SCARS!

  • June 25, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    BTW,I know you don't want to be giving everything away but for some of us, spoilers won't hinder our experience of the final product. You should be proud. This TB has reached 750 posts and counting. I'll tell you something else cool about it. I don't think anyone has seriously insulted anyone here all day. Don't know how much you know about the talkbacks, but I can't remember the last time that has happened in a TB with this many posts.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Damn You MCMLXXVI

    by TheyCallMeMisterBay

    Damn You MCMLXXVI

  • June 25, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by Duffer63

    His scars are all over one side of his body. His suit is burned all on one side. Its pretty sick and also surprisingly realistic. Lets just say you get to really look into the man. Its also far better than the stuff online although they were heading in the right direction.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Batman fanboys aren't the total demographic...

    by somethingcool

    I know I'm late to this, but I'm in the "teenager demographic" and everyone I've talked to at my school wants to see this movie opening weekend.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    OK. Last Question. Remember the leaked pic of scarred Two Face that hit the net a while back? Was that the look for Dent in this movie? Or was it a shopped job?

  • June 25, 2008, 10:51 p.m. CST

    he answered that

    by zom-bot.com

    it was close but not exact... relax man- it'll be good! :)

  • June 25, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    And...

    by somethingcool

    Speed Racer was amazing. The problem is NO ONE FUCKING SAW IT. My cynical old dad even liked it.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    This one http://tinyurl.com/56ggvz

  • June 25, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    Thanks for that but a few people didnt like my writing and many people thought I was either a plant or it was fake.Not many insults thrown my way. Just people either saying too many spoilers are not enough. You really cant please everyone! Even more amusing for me was how people thought I was Mori. You cant please everyone when you voice your opinion. That I know. I dont normally spend so long in the talkbacks and none of my other reviews have come close to this many posts. Its been fun.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Sawney Bean

    Anyway, thanks for the cool review and for joining our talkback.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    Its very close alright but not the final product.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Absolutely right..

    by somethingcool

    When I talk to my dad about this he asks if Jack Nicholson's in it.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Sawney Bean

    by Duffer63

    No worries mate. I have a couple of other big ones lined up. So hopefully if I havent blown my cover you will be hearing from me again soon.

  • June 25, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Wait!!!!!!!!! Duffer63...

    by somethingcool

    I know I asked this already but you've seen the movie so......... RA'S AL GHUL? REFERENCE? WILL LIAM NEESON RETURN FOR BATMAN 3????????

  • June 25, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    GOD

    by lucky slevin

    i never believed in him until now.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Something Cool

    by Duffer63

    No reference to him. I dont think that in this Batman universe the idea of an immortal would really work. Its grounded in too much reality. Somebody on here do some research and try and find out if there could be any truth to my riddler theory. I cant seem to bloody pull myself away from here! Sad as I have bloody seen the thing!

  • June 25, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Anyone who hates BATMAN

    by BrightEyes

    Hates life, its that simple.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Okay..

    by somethingcool

    Well, at least I wasn't sitting through the whole movie waiting for one. Thanks.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST

    somethingcool

    by Duffer63

    No worries.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Batman Comics these days - any good ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Been a while since I have read a comic, and a little longer since I have read a Batman comic. So just wondering if they are any good these days. <p> For me Batman is the most interesting comic book character ever. As a kid always wanted to be Superman, but really he is too powerful, and frankly too perfect, doesnt have the flaws like Batman. Always thought Batman's Rogue gallery was also very impressive and interesting.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST

    LETTERMAN has seen TDK

    by iwontwin

    he said it was good, but there was a lot of "hey theres batman!"....lol there were three things he liked 1. Absolutely everyone dies at the end. 2. the motorcycle 3. Heath Ledger's performance he said its going to be a blockbuster for sure... just so you know...and leno sucks.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Duffer63 POSSIBLE SPOILERS

    by Charlie Murphy

    if Two-Face does SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER bite it at the end of the movie, is it definite or is it left open so he could return?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    Anyone who puts box office numbers over the overall quality and heart put into the making of a film can go suck a fucking diseased cock. I don't care about how much money TDK will make on its opening weekend- we all know it's going to own our asses. My gripe is towards the fake ass bullshit "reviewers" that pipe up to tell us they've seen the movie nearly a full month before it comes out in theatres and expect us to BELIEVE them, when they've given us nothing to even believe them when they've said they've attended a special screening. Fuck you. And as much as it pains me to say it, thank GOD for the Rolling Stone review, at least we know for sure that someone who has ACTUALLY SEEN THE FILM is throwing out their two cents at this point.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    Duffer63 is a lying piece of shit

  • June 25, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Charlie Murphy

    by Duffer63

    Its a closed casket on that one Im afraid.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    whatyoufear

    by Duffer63

    So Im a lying piece of shit. Go back and read everyone of my posts above. Then come back to me. I know it must piss you off that I got to see it so much ahead of you but there is no need for your above posts. Pointless. Ask me anything if only to amuse me.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:53 p.m. CST

    OK...

    by somethingcool

    Watchmen is coming out next year. Why are you even comparing it to the dark knight?

  • June 25, 2008, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by odo19

    How much screen time does Scarecrow get in the movie? Sorry if this has already been asked.

  • June 25, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST

    odo19

    by Duffer63

    He is only involved in one sequence right at the beginning of the film. He is barely in it.

  • June 26, 2008, midnight CST

    by whatyoufear

    okay, Duffer. You're on an AICN talkback, and here's your chance to achieve ULTIMATE INTERNET GEEK CRED: What is Alfred's "secret". Spill, or get the fuck out of here.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by odo19

    Oh okay. Thanks man.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Mark my words - Watchmen will disappoint

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Hate to be a pessimist but for anyone who loved the comic book ( or for those worried about how they are perceived, graphic novel), my feeling is after we watch the movie we will all be thinking I wish they never made it.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra

    by Dark Knight Lite

    I grow weary of your flamebaiting. By calling Batman a "second tier superhero" you have shown your hand. Whether you like it or not, Batman, Spider-Man, and Superman ARE the first tier. If you don't believe it, just go up to a 90 year old man or woman and ask if they've heard of those three characters. Then ask if they know who Wolverine is. There is no character in popular fiction better known than Batman. That sir, is a fact. You sir, are just being foolish due to the anonymity afforded you by the internet. Dark Knight Out.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Lite - no point arguing with stupidity

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Kai is definetely baiting. <p> My only thought is that perhaps Superman would be the most well known, with Bats second.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by somethingcool

    So does unexpected death mean Rachel doesn't die????????????

  • June 26, 2008, 12:12 a.m. CST

    re: Most well known character?

    by Colonel Activity

    In popular fiction? Batman? Yeah right. Ever hear of Jesus?

  • June 26, 2008, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Adam West is the only true Batman!!!

    by RicardoMontalban

    Just joshing. I love Christian Bale too. But Adam West was hilarious! hey Bat fans, check out this great new blog... it's called thebitterproducer.blogspot.com

  • June 26, 2008, 12:15 a.m. CST

    whatyoufear

    by Duffer63

    Here is my chance to get ULTIMATE INTERNET GEEK CRED. Sweet! Let me spill my beans for you. U my good sir are a DICK! Clearly you didnt bother to read my previous post. It simply said READ MY OTHER POSTS! Seeing as how you are a lazy SOB Ill spell it out for you. Alfreds secret which I posted about earlier in a post entitled AFLREDS SECRET is a letter that Rachel Dawes gives to him. In it she says she has decided to Marry Harvey. She tells Alfred to give it to him when the time is right. He asks how will he know and she says its open. Alfred decides to not give it to Bruce and burns it after certain events take place. Now tell me who was it who is full of shit.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Colonel Activity - ha ha agree

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    think you are right on the mark Jesus, though maybe God is the most well known character in fiction.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    whatyoufear

    by Duffer63

    Perhaps its you who should get the fuck out of here as you so elegantly put it!

  • June 26, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    children settle down please

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • June 26, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    just kidding - who doesnt love a good fight

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • June 26, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Duffer63

    by Colonel Activity

    Does the Joker have any friends in the movie? How much of a dick is he? And how crazy? Does he kinda have a man crush on Bats?

  • June 26, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by Duffer63

    Does he have a man crush on bats? Thats the first q to make me laugh all day. He has a group of vigilantees which keeps on growing throughout the film. People on the brink of sanity are drawn to him. I wouldnt say he has any friends in the film though. He is an absolute dick. Completly psychotic. You literally have no idea whats coming next as he could do anyhting. The final climax he sets up is just so clever. No man crush on Bats but at the same time he does say you complete me. He knows that without Batman he couldnt have stepped over the edge and he very much likes being there.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Damn it!

    by Colonel Activity

    I was looking forward to a little clown on nocturnal flying rat action...I bet if the Joker had a shoulder to lean on (Edward James Olmos from "Stand and Deliver" maybe?) he'd be just fine. Is he funny at all in the movie?

  • June 26, 2008, 12:36 a.m. CST

    colonel Activity

    by Duffer63

    Sadisticly funny. You laugh because your watching someone who has clearly lost it but is just enjoying it so much. He doesnt crack any jokes as such. Its more his actions that make you laugh. His pencil trick is awesome. The way he walks I loved. Him in the nurses costume is pretty funny.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Duffer 63- Any setup for the Penguin?

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    Any character that could be hinted at as a back ground character as the penguin?

  • June 26, 2008, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Particularly hard name to type at this hour

    by Duffer63

    No, no character set up or introduced as the penguin. Perhaps the riddler but I could be way off on that one.

  • June 26, 2008, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Duffer63: Does this listing on ebay for an unreleased tumbler to

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    http://tinyurl.com/58lyn2

  • June 26, 2008, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Duffer63 part duex

    by odo19

    I forgot to ask, but does Scarecrow look the same? Or does he have a new costume?

  • June 26, 2008, 1:56 a.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    Duffer- I'm not questioning whether or not you've actually SEEN the film or not. If what you've said is true, I'll be the first to congratulate you on spreading the word.. if not, well, YOU, sir, are a dick. PS- is that REALLY Alfred's big secret? If so, that's lame. So fucking lame.

  • June 26, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    odo- scarecrow looks the same as he did in Begins. Go to superherohype five months ago if you don't believe me.

  • June 26, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    by whatyoufear

    Duffer- what the FUCK is up with this "pencil trick" you keep talking about? it's obviously so amazing that you make it the focus of every Joker/Heath reference you decide to go on about. Take it from OUR side, the common, everyday July 18th moviegoer, and EXPOUND already. We're on an AICN talkback. Spill your fucking beans, if you're legit. Spoilers be damned!

  • June 26, 2008, 2:37 a.m. CST

    tick.. tock.

    by whatyoufear

    Exactly. Duffer can rot in his diseased cunt Hell. Another case of "I gotta be hot on the Internetz" gone sour. A word to the enlightened: watch the movie for yourself, and give nothing to these fucking fakes that fake and starve for YOUR attention.

  • June 26, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Unfuckingbelievable

    by mefrog

    I can't think of the last pre-release positive review that has been posted on AICN that the talkbackers haven't branded a fucking plant. Holy shit. You guys are complete morons. Not every positive review is a fucking plant. Jesus, I'm fucking done with talkbacks. Some of you need to grow the fuck up.

  • June 26, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    pencil trick

    by darth_hideous

    i heard from a reliable source that he jabs it into his ear, spurting fake blood everywhere, then it's gone, presumably in his head (but not really cuz it's a magic trick). it shocks and disgusts the mobsters, but joker thinks it's pretty funny. it's kind of like penn & teller's old gag of cupping a half and half creamer in your hand, holding it over your eye, then poking it open with a fork, making it look like you're jabbing your eyes out

  • June 26, 2008, 4:14 a.m. CST

    mefrog is a PLANT

    by Prossor

    clearly some executive inserted a double agent in here for some reverse psychology to call us out as crazy when in reality they are all SUNLIGHT EATERS.

  • June 26, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    MAJOR SPOILERS IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHO DIES THEN DONT READ

    by frozensnake

    So if you really want to know who dies, what pisses off Lucious Fox, and if batman still speaks like a chain smoker, read on.......... Batman uses cell phone technology to set up a 'bat sonar' device that uses the people of gotham's mobile phones as a kind of tracking system. Basically he has a huge monitor thing that he can spy on everyone with. Lucious says, as long as it is at Wayne Enterprises, he wont be. Deaths are Rachael, which is a bit of the reason Harvy goes nutso, and then two face dies too, falls off some scaffolding. Gordon has a fake death, and batman takes the wrap for any murders Dent committed to keep Dent as a symbol of hope for the city. Joker is alive at the end, and left hanging upside down waiting for GCPD to take him into custody. Oh, and batman still has the same voice.

  • June 26, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST

    CLAYFACE INTRODUCED AS MAIN VILLAIN FOR 3RD FILM

    by That 70s Venom

    ClayFace is going to be the main villain in Batman 3. Cole Hauser will be playing the role of Matt Hagen/ClayFace.

  • June 26, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    whatyoufear

    by Duffer63

    Are you an idiot? U are indeed questioning whether or not I have seen the film. Rot in my cunt hell? Nice , did you think of that yourself. The way you write takes my breath away. You should write a script. Hot on the internetz? Sad whatyoufear , very sad. To answer your question though the pencil trick is something The Joker does when he walks into a room full of the criminals who are all pissed at him for stealing their money and announces "Does anyone want to see a magic trick? Ill make this pencil vanish" and placees it standing up on the desk. One of the criminals charges at The Joker and he forces his head down onto the pencil. It all happens within a few seconds and is just so friggin cool. Oh and PS Yeah that is Alfreds secret. Oh and I believe Im owed a congratulation. I want it only from you. U R A DICK!

  • June 26, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    irc-hollywood

    by Duffer63

    Travers says the smile isnt related to his father as it has been in previous Jokers. I say the Jokers smile is rooted in a gesture of love. I dont say its a gesture of love towards his father because in this case its not. Oh and he does have father issues. This review came out before the rolling stone one.

  • June 26, 2008, 6:55 a.m. CST

    IF YOU WANT SPOILERS

    by Duffer63

    Then read Frozensnake above. He is the first person on here who has either seen the movie or knows someone who has. Details galore up there.

  • June 26, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Sunlight eaters... I fucking wish

    by mefrog

    If only we could photosynthesize.

  • June 26, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    70s Venom

    by Jason B. Swaim

    That would be an interesting casting. Loved him in Higher Learning. Not so much in F&F2 though.

  • June 26, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    The only real question I have about this film

    by PumpyMcAss

    is whether or not Nolan learned to film action since the first movie. Seriously, confusion and quick cuts does not a good action scene make. Nearly killed the whole movie for me.

  • June 26, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Pumpy-editing

    by g-ride9000

    Lee Smith, the editor of BB, is editing DK and showed some restrain on "the prestige" I think his action editing is OK and sometimes to quick. It might be a coverage issue, witch is Nolan's fault. Mabye the coverage is sparse and Lee Smith is makeing the most of it??? Anyway it could'a been tighter and with more exhibition. Let's hope for superior editing.

  • June 26, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Yeah - hated all the whirling dervish shit in BB.

    by Ghostball

  • June 26, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    DGDB, I want to seeee the action

    by g-ride9000

    and some of BB editing was perfect for me. I think it's about balence....ohh and I'm not 86, i'm 31 and look 25. BUT I FUCK LIKE A GRANDPA yea dog!

  • June 26, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_RICH_GAY_UNCLES_DIC KBLOOD

    by g-ride9000

    your a weirdo, stay the fuck away....your name isn't funny or ironic or cute.....its boring like an andy warhol film.

  • June 26, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    to the real dickblood

    by g-ride9000

    Are you saying that BB put you to sleep, cause that's some funny shit.

  • June 26, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Dude I feel you

    by g-ride9000

    I was on your side...accept for I think BB is OK. I can watch it and not cringe. I am a sucker for Gary Olman, but really liked him in his drinkin' days. I now hate Tim Burton, but the Batman 89' argument you got is solid. <P><P>ps what's up with the online stalkers? what's next Dannyglover's-dickbloods-mom;s-orgies-bloodygash-stepson's boyfriend? wow look at me I'm like makeing fun of you and sucking your dick at the same time!!!

  • June 26, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Thanks Duffer, I must say I'm bummed about

    by Charlie Murphy

    Two-Face. Not just a little upset, but really upset. Offing characters is one of the dumbest things in superhero movies.

  • June 26, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Batman Begins

    by hank henshaw

    Wasn't good or bad, merely ok. I think it is waaay overrated. I don't understand how this version of The Joker (in TDK) is anymore faithful to the comics than the rastafarian monkey in The Batman cartoon. Ok, ok maybe TDK's is closer to that of the comics... but not by much.

  • June 26, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    So looking forward to seeing this!

    by Yeti

  • June 26, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Danny boy

    by just pillow talk

    Time to declare pencil jihad on the imposters.

  • June 26, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    It disturbs me

    by Abominable Snowcone

    that shitheels are impersonating the genuine DGDB. The blood will run red from the gaping lacerations in their necks once the pencil jihad occurs

  • June 26, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    hmm,

    by Lost Jarv

    I feel imposters are a sort of lesser infidel and only worth a flying possum attack. <P>It's sort of sad really.

  • June 26, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    caps and _

    by HANSOLOS_CARBONITEFROZENPENIS

    is the new trend

  • June 26, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    PETER TRAVERS LOVED IT!!!

    by HoboCode

  • June 26, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Link

    by HoboCode

    http://tinyurl.com/5fleqb

  • June 26, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    BB was boring...

    by Braffed

    I totally didn't catch the lisp on Bale, but now I can't get it out of my head. Leaf Hedger was a medeocre actor. period. This movie will never be as good a Burtons

  • June 26, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    BB was remarkably average

    by Mattyboy122

    So I fully expect, sans Goyer, for this film to exceed BB. Oh, and Heat is only about 8000x better than BB could ever wet dream about being.

  • June 26, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Does Anybody Remember Christian Bale as the Bad Guy in Shaft

    by Grand_Wizard

    and Shaft was played by Samuel L. Jackson who was a former crack addict and used to live in the N.Y. city subway tunnels. How the fuck does a guy go from being a crack head to Shaft and a guy go from being a bad guy in Shaft to being Batman. Someone tell me because I don't want to die untill I've tasted the fruits of success and lay exhausted and spent between Angelina Jolies legs.

  • June 26, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Braffed

    by One Nation Under Zod

    You are a fucking fool. BB towers over Bat '89.

  • June 26, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Grand_Wizard, it is called acting.

    by Saluki

    BB is the best comic book film until July 18th.

  • June 26, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Three cents

    by The Octagoner

    Begins is a good movie. It doesn't reinvent the genre or anything, but it's the first Batman movie that's actually ABOUT Batman, not about The Joker, or the Penguin, or The Riddler, or Robin, or nipples. As far as movies about billionaires who dress up like flying rodents go, it's very good. Burton's Batman is a piece of fetid shit: dull, absent of all logic, with the hyper-annoying Robert Wuhl and Fat Nicholson as the movie's real main character, an undriveable batmobile, a tiny little dude in a sculpted muscle suit that renders him immobile... etc. "But, but," say the felch-sucking queers, "it LOOKS so, so GOTHIC..." Big fucking deal. Tim Burton can't tell a story worth a damn. Even though Ed Wood and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure are good films, for the most part Burton's movies show that he should be an art director, not a film director. Nolan's no cinematic god, but he knows something about storytelling and characterization. The Prestige was awesome, and by all indications TDK is going to ass-to-mouth face-fuck every other movie this summer.

  • June 26, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    RE: Octagoner

    by Colonel Activity

    You hit the nail right on the head: Batman Begins sucked because it wasn't about nipples.

  • June 26, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    RE: "This movie will never be as good a Burtons"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You're right. It's going to be SO. MUCH. BETTER.

  • June 26, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Long running time + good story=

    by AntoniusBloc

    my kind of film. Hope the story delivers

  • June 26, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins

    by AntoniusBloc

    was a great film. Could have been a little more creative with the final action scenes, but overall, this was the best Batman film since Burton's Batman's didn't have great action either. I loved Elfman's themes and Keaton as Batman who pretty much set the standard for playing him in the Batsuit. Everyone pretty much seems to do the same voice, or try to.

  • June 26, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    SHH reporting sold out midnight screenings and

    by BLEST

    theatres having to add 3 am shows!<p> Fandango and other pre-order sites are getting sold out! <p>Just waiting for the spin from the schmucks above who think that the general public doesn't want this film, and that it won't easily clear 100 mil the first weekend. Link: http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7406

  • June 26, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    this review has even reached athens!

    by greekgoddess

    nice work tim, worldwide coverage there. i thought you showed a humble yet assured knowledge throughout your review leaving enough up to my imagination. your gonna give harry a run for his money, or maybe perez!! hehe! the anticipation is mounting.........

  • June 26, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Does anyone think that TDK will be any good?

    by strosmer

    Please, discuss.<p>God, I hope I haven't missed out on opening weekend tickets yet. What BLEST just posted scares me, and gets me excited, but I'd hate to miss opening weekend. This movie will own all over the place. The general public will eat it up, kids and adults alike. I love it.

  • June 26, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Strosmer

    by BLEST

    Indeed! I'm rushing to get my tickets now. They're still available, but then...we haven't even gotten to July yet! I was going to wait another week, but now I don't think I'll chance it.

  • June 26, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    I cannot wait.

    by mrfan

    The only fear I have is the time that the movie runs. Hope that their isn't a lot of filler. Want a tight movie. The previews look fantastic.

  • June 26, 2008, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Heres a link to Rolling Stones review

    by stinkyfingerz

    Man this movie can't come out fast enough... http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

  • June 26, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Grand_Wizard

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    We don't have any indo here! No Chronic!

  • June 26, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    just watched BB opening on FX

    by Prossor

    that young wayne, i thought i was watching secret garden or great expectations or some shit. is this a drama or a fucking comic book movie? boy did nolan fuck it!

  • June 27, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Damn you, George Lucas!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Damn you to hell!

  • June 27, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Smoking Aces is not a good movie

    by just pillow talk

    The only good thing about that movie is Ben getting plugged early on. Not that I don't like Ben, but I thought that was rather amusing.

  • June 30, 2008, 3:31 a.m. CST

    NEW RULE: I'd rather watch Alicia Keyes in a leotard than Batman

    by Bill Maher

    But then, unlike all you big fat fags who are already beating off over the idea of Christian Bale prancing around in a leather bodysuit, I'm HETERO-sexual, which means I'd rather look at Alicia Keyes' ass. So fuck anyone who didn't like Smokin Aces. By the way, since when are dudes who run around in capes and leotards, fighting crime meant to be taken seriously? Do you 400-pound permavirgins realize how fucking stupid you look when you demand that COMIC BOOKS be made into serious films?

  • June 30, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Smokin Aces: Alicia Keyes In Hot Pants! YEAH!

    by Bill Maher

    The best thing I've seen in a movie in a long time!

  • June 30, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by just pillow talk

    You have rescinded your right to call anyone out on any movie.