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Stallone. Schwarzenegger. INCREDIBLE LOVE (!?!?!?) Coming Soon!!
Merrick here...
Just like the headline says. Literally.
The two will appear alongside the Bollywood stars Ashkay Kumar and Kareena Kapoor in Incredible Love, the story of an Indian stuntman who takes Hollywood by storm but cannot find true love there.
The film will be the first Indian production to be shot at Hollywood’s Universal Studios and will have the highest budget in Bollywood history: more than £11m.
...says THIS ARTICLE at Timesonline, which goes on to discuss Bollywood's increasing influence on the U.S film industry (including DreamWorks' affiliation with Bombay billionaire Anil Ambani - an arrangement which may facilitate the entity's departure from Paramount).
No word on how either Sly or Arnold will be utilized in INCREDIBLE LOVE; although it seems likely they'll play action stars...possibly even themselves...shooting a movie that our protagonist stuntman is working on. This is just conjecture, though.
For decades, many of us have imagined what a project featuring Stallone and Schwarzenegger would be like...although most of us probably weren't envisioning something along these lines. Still, it'll be great fun seeing them in the same film, even if it's not in a buddy capacity, or (my favorite notion) in a Sly -vs- Arnold free-for-all.
And ABking spontaneously detonates into an ELS (Extinction Level Sploogasim)...
The two will appear alongside the Bollywood stars Ashkay Kumar and Kareena Kapoor in Incredible Love, the story of an Indian stuntman who takes Hollywood by storm but cannot find true love there.
The film will be the first Indian production to be shot at Hollywood’s Universal Studios and will have the highest budget in Bollywood history: more than £11m.
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Which had them in that British movie, this is what this movie will be like.
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Even more so than the first poster
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Stallone is doing Bollywood? I can see Arnie (to gather up electoral votes) but not Sly. Desperate fuckers...
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this is.. going to be epic.
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between the two of them. Damn.
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Just wanted to make that crystal clear.
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Best comeback in HISTORY.....Ever still be reeling over that years to come..hmm but back on topic if this has that Aishwarya Rai frolicking nekkid then maybe but I see this being as cheesy as the Indian Superman(youtube it)may be a big hit with the curry folk but nowhere else.
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anyways... the Family Guy episode where Stallon and the Gubernator are in a boat, confessing their love for one another? Soon as I read the headline that's what I thought of. Then I laughed my ass off.
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They've made a ton of money now that we've outsourced all of our companies to them - now they're going to try to plant a flag in Hollywood. The studios will welcome them with open arms (right now) but ten years from now - with a couple of blockbusters under their belt, they'll flex more muscle. What kind of restrictions will they put on the filmmakers of the future when they hold the purse strings? Guess we'll have to wait and see. Remember - these are people who still believe in class systems and arranged marriages. We may be looking at a whole lot of bad singing and dancing in our movie-going futures. Fuck.
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Isn't he the frickin' Governor of California?
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Was that even Bollywood? Did I mention I only saw it because of Heather Graham's cans?
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how much money are these fucks investing into our local economy...i want to open a call center for indians to call into...i want to put them on hold for 45 minutes, then ask them inane questions, then pretend to misunderstand them, then hang up on their asses...and that fucking indian billionaire became a billionaire at the cost of thousands of american jobs....fuck him...and thats right...im a racist
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They dont even show cleavage let alone heavy petting of any sort, as for Dreamworks well they will milk this for all they can. Kinda reminds me off the Entourage episode with the crazy arab wanting to invest in a hollywood movie. I could understand if there was some actual interest like with other asian films but Bollywood is just awful and always seems to be about 15 years behind the West.
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How there is a market for this shit (even in India) is beyond me.
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NO part of your post was racist until you chose to mention the fact yourself.....just saying is all.
Aishwarya Rai is married so wont be available for nekkidness as her inlaws would have her burnt or some shit...what about Shilpa Shetty she almost tongued Richard Gere and if shes willing to do that I say she prolly a game girl? -
Protecting local jobs, instead of heartless corporations that want to save money/make more money? That's sounds like communist talk to me...One day Indians will complain about all their jobs going to Africa...
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that i have never once in my entire lifetime ever even tried to imagine what a project featuring stallone and schwarzenegger would be like.
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I want AvS. That might be the best idea I've ever heard. Cobra vs Commando. Terminator vs Rambo. Kimball vs Rocky. I just picture alternating shots of both of them standing in a street emptying clip after clip of machine gun fire at one another and yet each and every round misses. Maybe Arnold gets grazed on the shoulder by a bullet. But it turns out to be...just a flesh wound.
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She has a very domineering mother who wont let her do naughty scenes and the whole Richard Gere thing was more him molesting her apparrently.
I give up just make this a Gay Gangbang Hardcore Fest or some shit with Shiite LaBeouf and Michael Bay the fluffers.
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Check out Benny Lava on youtube, you won't regret it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw
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To pursue a more modest career of threatening nurses and teachers and waffling on prison reform in the state with the third highest prison population in the world.
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to US! What goes around...
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Why does Jerry Goldsmith have to be dead. Why couldn't Sly and Ahnold have made this happen 10 years ago. Were they busy? Really? After Heat brought mob-movie icons De Niro and Pacino together it was time to do the same with the big two action icons.
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otherwise I don't know that I care. Nice that movies from other countries are coming here to shoot.
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That's it. Ring the bell. The end of the world is nigh.
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Ever seen Tango and Cash? Imagine that piece of crap, but with even less chemistry or meaning; that's what I imagine all the weirdos who get starry-eyed over a Sly/Arnie matchup want to see. At least that atrocious rumor of them appearing in Inglorious Bastards together has been put to bed. I'd rather, you know, see good actors put together in Quentin Tarantinos' next movie.
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How hard is it to get a decent comment system up in this bitch! Reddit is open source, take it from them!
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After 20 years in the ass-kicking business, Sly and Ahnold team up in... a Bollywood love story? Um... yeah.
One question: who's got photos of the stars dressed up as cheerleaders boinking underage Vietnamese prostitutes? Because it sounds like someone's got something on them. Something huge.
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For those who don't follow every tiny move that happens in Tinsel Town, the trio of Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg...in other words DREAMWORKS...has been trying to get away from its purchase by Paramount and to reform itself as a separate entity once again, where most likely they will strike a deal with Universal to distribute their end product since Spielberg has always had a good relationship with them and still maintains offices on the Universal lot.So that said, what does that have to do with Bollywood being at Universal? Simple: the half BILLION or so in cash that the 3 Amigos needed as start up capital is coming from...yes, you guessed it...India. So I'm guessing that this project -- a big high profile thing that might have Stallone and Arnie together for the first time -- might be one of their initial development projects or deals to start allowing more cross work between Bollywood, it's money, and Hollywood. Here, you can read Nikki Finke's article about the Dreamwork's financing deal...http://tinyurl.com/5dfzru
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If you read that link I just gave in my post above, in addition to getting a half BILLION or so from Indian investors, can you imagine the amount of money Speilberg will walk off with as his buy-out price OR that he'll get ANYWAY from Paramount projects for simply moving on? Man, you gotta hand it to the guy: he sure knows how to structure a business deal! As the article notes...But what hardly anyone knows is that Spielberg has the right to elect to be involved in any project that DreamWorks has developed at Paramount. As an ex-Paramount business affairs source once told me, Steven's so-called "Amblin deal" would apply even if he chooses to leave and is no longer under contract. He'd still make 7.5% of the gross and 50% of the profits to cash break. And if Paramount decides the projects won't be made, they have to be offered to Spielberg in turnaround. So this means Paramount may have to fork over major moolah. Or the likeliest scenario is that Spielberg uses this huge leverage so that Paramount and DreamWorks wind up horse-trading some key development projects.
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Jun 21, 2008 11:40:06 PM CDT
this is what it took to get them together? Amitabh Bachan thinks
by jugdish
What a Fucking Joke!
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...that's all this will be. It'll be just like the crappy An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn, complete with pointless Stallone cameo as himself, only this time instead of a Jackie Chan cameo along side him it'll be Schwarzenegger instead. And their combined screen time will be lucky to be able to fill a trailer. It'll just be a walk on single scene kinda deal. You just wait and see. So no, this isn't cool. At all. Unless you're a hardcore Bollywood fan I guess.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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He said, "Hruh!"
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Aren't Sly and Arnie both like 100 years old? Just wondering.
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Really, fuck that shit. "Oh boo hoo, I'm filthy fucking rich and my son is the POTUSA, but my wife doesn't really love me!" Yeah, whatever. Shut the fuck up, you spoiled fucking whiny bitch. Do what the rest of us do and lower your fucking standards. I swear, this shit is like watching a movie where some damn multimillionaire bitches about how he wishes that he was a billionaire. Fuck those people. Bitch has a hot wife who's really not that bad, a huge fucking house, kids who have the best education money can buy, and you're gonna bitch and moan about how you "haven't found true love"? Yeah, well fuck you. Your life is pretty fucking good. If you're gonna waste it being a little crybaby bitch about how you haven't found a "perfect" woman yet, then I hope you die alone in a ditch.
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but there was a time when made in america meant something...and both republicans and dems cared about that...and ya, i know that the industry is global and that everything is global...but christ, when did i wake up and find myself on the real live set of network...IM AS MAD AS HELL, AND I AINT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE...and if some fucker decides to remake that movie, im gonna find him and gut him and make him eat his own insides
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until I saw that youtube mash up edit. how fucking cool was that!?!
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... international commercials that so many movie stars do that they would never consider doing over here and that we never see. What a waste of a dream pairing.
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...a gay couple who chase each other around a tree, sing on a mountain top, dance in a grassy field, and lament their forbidden love while singing and dancing.
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Even if this movie is due to Spielberg's machinations to get Dreamworks and his ass out of Paramount, it will still be better than Indy 4. There, I said it, as it had to be said. Where is ABKing? You'd think he'd be all over this like Richard Gere on Shilpa Shetty...ba-dum-pish! Yes, I'd gladly bang Shilpa in multiple positions, as long as she promised not to sing... By the way, that video is fucking brilliant.
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So they could do cross promotion, don't ya think? Why don't they get Van Damme in this thing as well? Perhaps Van Damme will ask Shilpa to do a cameo in his movie...and promptly try to bang her on the first night or production...As she roundhouse kicks his ass back out of her trailer, he will mutter in his strange accent, "You killed my muscles from Brussels..."
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FUCK THI LOVE SHIT! or unless this is you sliding back in acting and prepping for KING CONAN... then otherwise i HEIL YOU my TEUTONIC SUPERMAN SUPERIOR!
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It's going to be a friggin' Bollywood flick with two second cameos by Stallone and Schwarzenegger. Nothing more. This is far from being a Sly & Arnold movie, so fuck this.
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..when people say: 'this is just like that time... the Family Guy episode did the same thing'?
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He's a piece of shit and you suckers that voted for him can kiss my ass. What a crook. He's lied about not taking special interest money (he set a record taking it) and how he was going to fix the budget by going through the books (nada) and he dropped the Enron lawsuit that would have revealed his sleazy criminal friends like Milken and Lay. Oh and he also pimped Bush. He's a scumbag. Our state is in a drought and falling apart and this asshole wants to make a Bollywood film. I dare any of you talkbackers who voted for this thug to defend your star-struck lunacy. I hope he never comes back in anything.
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of hollywood and bollywood..FAIL.
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She's the hottest piece of Hindi ass in the world! If anyone hasn't seen Ashoka yet, then they need their head looked.
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in Around the world in 80 days with steven Coogan and jackie chan. embarrasing.
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Every Bollywood movie has a number of songs and dance or else it's blasphemy
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Arnies political career will be over. regardless of who wins. This presidential race will be so unpredictable. Its going to be a hard one to call. Anyway Arnie has been out of the hollywood game for so long. that I doubt he has the magic anymore. his last couple of films were hardly great.
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we americans are now complaining about "our" jobs being outsourced as if these jobs are our god-given national resources. of course, we do it by blaming the people who are getting paid a quarter of what an american would get paid to do the same job. but who keeps the other 75% of the savings? the american and european stockholders, that's who. but let's not blame them or make fun of the way they talk. that would be unpatriotic. and let's certainly not bring up the actual natural resources like iron and copper that we've exploited from their lands for centuries now. OR the fact that we've forced many of these globalized countries to outsource their food supply and rely on overpriced, imported rice and genetically modified seeds, when they would otherwise have the natural capacity to grow their own food. but all of that's too complicated, so let's just blame indians for "stealing our jobs."
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and he said that Dreamworks were absolute mess.
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all could follow south parks example and the men could hold naked orgies....
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They both probably agreed to this so that once Arnold is officially out of office, that Indian Billionaire can fund a 200 million all out action-destruction-spectacular for them to star in :) At least I hope so:)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBsxqQIu_5s&feature=related
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I worked on a Bollywood about 4 years ago, and I know from experience that they will promote the most tenuous and tentative contacts as if it were a contract written in stone. I should imagine that Arnie and Sly haven't even heard of this project yet.
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Why make one big budget movie when you can make 5 low er budget movies? It certainly leaves more room for variety and taking risks with storytelling. Fat chance of that happening in corporate Hollywood. If only the Bollywood movies weren't all the same.
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20 years hollywood suits, directors, producers, studios, have been trying to get these guys together in a movie and the first time they do it it's for some Bollywood film?? Give me a break.
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Sure, from a cinematic perspective, Bollywood has some issues. There are however, a few rays of light within the industry. It reflects an entire culture. One that people across America have not only accepted with arms wide open, but with their checkbooks open too. And if you think it will take over cinema in general, then you obviously have no faith in Hollywood, or independent productions at all. Plus, it just displays your incompetence. As for outsourcing, India basically said, hey, check it out, we have cheap labour, and a shitload of people....AMERICAN companies and THE AMERICAN Government decided to go ahead and pay them for it. If people lost their jobs, blame your own government. Plus, if Indians didn't keep you on hold and apologize for it, you'd have bitchy hags from Iowa not giving a shit about your issues, and yeah, keeping you on hold for 45 mins too. You're not only a bunch of bigots, you're a bunch of ignorant cows.
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I thought that it was going to be like that "Family Guy" parody where Sly and Arnie are in a Merchant Ivory film...
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Jun 22, 2008 9:30:48 AM CDT
Tim Curry was originally to star, but he was cannibalized...
by cletus van damme
...as was Adrienne Curry. And Aquaman.
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If we're also "ignorant cows," then bow down and worship us already!
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i was once told by talkbacker that this section of the site was "satirical". The reaction to this film on the talkback will be bigoted and xenaphobic. I posted on another thread about dr who. if let some words out of the post by accident. and i got a typical talkbacker response that i am irish and therefore I am drunk. no true. if that is what passes for satire on the talkback then good luck. but then strangely I love the simpsons take on st patricks day. but then most americans believe that no other countries exists out side america. but then what does it say about a nation that elects a two term doofus as pres.
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Bollywood movies are garbage... I do however have a great affection for Indian food.
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Talk about an international incident. Now that was some funny tv in UK CBB 5 . She was all classy in UK CBB5, but lost all her class when she let that creep Gere get near her.
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Sigh...some people think they're entitled to a high paying job. Its a new world out there. You're competing against someone who is just as educated, more industrious and who will work for less. Instead of complaining about it get off your lazy ass...
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Jun 22, 2008 11:25:28 AM CDT
"the story of an Indian stuntman who takes Hollywood by storm bu
by aethyrr
Sounds like one hell of a comedy.. Uhm, they're making a comedy, right..?
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Jun 22, 2008 12:00:52 PM CDT
I Don't Care How Old They Are, I STILL Want Them In A Movie Toge
by kissman24
I like the idea.
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...with Brucie? That would be a worthier return to screen/team up than this. It dosen't sound like a good idea.
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well, that should cover Arnold's salary. I wonder if Sly's getting paid.
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Decides to do a musical version of The Stuntman. Blackmails Arnold and Sly to star in the O'Toole Railsback roles. Indian stuntman saves day when challenged to a fight by Boll. Boll dies, but everyone recognizes the genius of his vision and decide to finish the movie while keeping his death a secret.
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Is this movie being made for major US theaterical release? No, it's being made for Indian audiences as usual... So what the fuck's the big deal? It's not even for you! They just happen to be filming in Hollywood and having cameos by Arnold and Sly... Big fucking deal... And in any case, there are some genuinely great Bollywood movies that are straight up well done serious films with no singing and dancing in the rain... But of course let's chastise an entire industry we know nothing about, right America? It is true that 90% of it is the regular singing, dancing formulaic romantic stuff, but Indian audiences eat it up. So it's really no different than American audiences flocking to shit like Meet the Spartans and Love Guru. Except India actually has an excuse as the majority of people that see these aren't well educated, live in downright poverty and only want a few hours of happy love comedies and music to make them smile and dance steps to imitate at their weddings and local events, say what you will but they're a bunch of happy motherfuckers who appreciate the little things in life.
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I've been visiting this site for over ten years now and it really saddens me to read this talkback. The amount of ignorance, stereotyping, lame-ass jokes and the kind of xenophobia put on display... Look, I'll be the first to deride Bollywood films. But what do all these comments about call centers and jobs and rebirth and so on and so forth have to do with everything?
I live in New Delhi right now, just finished watching "The King oF Kong" and was getting on to read all those reveiews that I had seen here before. This is what I read instead...
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That crappy, curry laden Bollywood, where every Slurpie-jerk or camel jockey can hang with Rocky, hooray for Bollywood!
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and their children too muahaah!
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The amount of racism on this talkback astounds me.
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....When are we going to get Jurassic Park iv????
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I don't want to watch it.
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IF Arnie makes a comeback, it will be something bigger/better. At least I hope so
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But couldn't they have gotten better stars for their movie. Not only are they decades late, as of now I fear this may be a stinky gimmicky production.
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AFAIK Terminator 3 began the wave of 80s action stars giving their old schtick one more go.
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Jun 22, 2008 6:54:06 PM CDT
FUCK countries like India taking outsourced American jobs...
by big dumb ape
I love how some are (rightly) pointing out that some countries like India or China are trying to become economic powerhouses by taking on more and more outsourced American jobs, yet others here are (wrongly) then instantly calling them "racists" or making other bullshit statements. Yeah, nice way to try and deflect the argument away from the cold, hard TRUTH.Case in point, up above Bong -- who must REALLY be smoking some seriously strong shit today -- stated (and I quote): "Sigh. Some people think they're entitled to a high paying job. Its a new world out there. You're competing against someone who is just as educated, more industrious and who will work for less. Instead of complaining about it get off your lazy ass."You're kidding me, right? You're trying to take the issue of outsourced jobs and reduce it to the notion that Americans are NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH? That they need to get off their "lazy asses"? Well, here's my diplomatic response to that: Fuck you. About 2 years ago, I lost my job and had to restart my life (and the year before that, so did my brother) because both of our companies -- covering two different industries -- decided why pay American workers an honest day's wage when instead they could be paying outsourced workers overseas pennies on the dollar to do the same computer work.Bottom line: it wasn't an issue about our "laziness" -- though that's what management tried to laughably claim in shutting down my job and putting me and my co-workers out on the streets. In fact, we even brought in a Federal Mediator to try and resolve the deadlock, at which point the company said it wouldn't ship our jobs overseas so long as we...yes, wait for it...QUADRUPLED our daily computer workloads. They said that was the only way to make the company "economicially feasible" given how LITTLE they could hire people overseas, who could then simply transmit the data back. At which point, during a break in negotiations, even the Federal Mediator -- who by law is supposed to remain neutral and unbiased -- turned to us in private and said, "This is utter horse shit. Even I can tell these guys are just stalling for time to start shipping your jobs overseas. They're just dragging these talks along while they get their chess pieces in place so there's no disruption of cash flow. We're wasting our time here."So don't even try giving me that line that "Americans are just lazy workers" in a global economy. It's not about me getting up earlier or staying later at work. It's about the simple cold, hard fact that NO American worker can afford to compete against outsourced workers who are willing to do your job for fucking 50 cents an hour just to secure the work and THEN start to demand pay raises over time to escalate their standards of living. Hey, I understand where they're coming from. You now have college educated, computer literate grads in poor countries saying "Hey, I'll do it for a FRACTION of the money just to get ANY work at all" -- but that just creates bullshit economics because what American...blue collar worker or even in my case, white collar computer literate...can compete against slave labor rates? Hey, in principle I'm basically economically conservative for the most part, even I would recognize that at THAT point the U.S. has to start placing restrictions over "what" kind of work or services a company should be allowed to outsourced IF it means putting Americans out of work and out on the streets.
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Also, am I the only one who finds something laughable in having testosterone fueled stars like Arnie and Sly in this, given what happened over the Richard Gere and Shilpa Shetty incident that actually resulted in death threats for simply kissing her in public? I can already see it: while doing a press conference overseas, Sly or Arnie will flirt with and kiss the leading lady(s), which is exactly the kind of picture that the global press will most want to get since it symbolizes the new union of Hollywood and Bollywood......At which point India will erupt in riots. And of course, much like the Gere incident, once again India will blame it all on "ugly Americans" for being so morally bankrupt that we'd actually dare kiss a woman or show affection in public. So it just seems like a crock to me. How sex-driven Hollywood and sex-repressed Bollywood are supposed to work together long term is beyond me...
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Ultimately, if a company tells you're fired because they are going to take cheaper labour from overseas, who's to blame? The company and your government that supports this - or the overseas worker? Of course the former, but blaming the foreigner is a much easier thing to do, especially for the unemployed bums as they congregate in the local bar and drink their sorrows away while feeling sorry for themselves and make off-colour jokes about foreigners. Its much easier than criticizing your own government for fear of being seen as unpatriotic by a beerswilling moron sitting next to you on a bar stool who might decide to smash a beer bottle over your head. Western countries have been exploiting foreign countries for cheap resources for years. Its why people in the West have been able to enjoy everything from food crops, clothing, tech products, and other goods at affordable prices. Western corporations and governments eventually realized, 'Why not exploit those countries for cheap labour too?'. Now all of a sudden, the westerners affected start criticizing the foreigners for this. Globalization is a two-way street. You can't support it only when it works for you. At least Big Dump Ape lives up to his name.
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...Big Dumb Ape, not Big Dump Ape. Freudian slip, because he just layed a huge pile of bullshit.
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Jun 22, 2008 9:05:25 PM CDT
AICN: You are utter morons for printing this absolute BS story.
by rubiks doob
#1- Arnold is retired from acting, he's busy being gov. IF he were going to come out of retirement it would be for T4 not some low budget crappy Bollywood movie, which leads me right into
#2 11 million pounds is like $21 million. That's like beyond low budget for Hollywood and wouldn't even pay Sly or Arnie's catering budget.
#3- So what they are shooting at Universal Studios?! Guess what- those are stages open to the paying public. If you or I wanted to go film at Universal Studios tomorrow I could pay their rental fee and be in there by 9am. Probably in a better stage than the Bollywood shitbirds too because it would be an American production and we'd get more love.
#4 No quote of any kind from Sly or Arnold. I guarantee you 1,000% that if they ever even are told about this bogus rumor they will deny deny deny.
Argh- I am punching the walls reading this stupid story because now all the other movie sites are picking it up as fact too.
You see this is exactly why the fuckwads at Latino Review get zero respect from Variety, Hollywood Reporter etc. Journalism involves actually picking up the phone and checking a story out before printing a totally bogus(and obviously so) rumor. But noooo- all these dumbass movie sites do is cut and paste from other sources.
Shame on AICN, but more than anything shame on this bs Indian Production who just gamed all of you for free PR. Ahhhh Ha Ha HaHaHa HaHaH.
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Yeah, I read all that. And? What does any of that have to do with Big Dumb Ape saying "FUCK countries like India taking outsourced American jobs..." He blames foreign workers, not the US government or companies. The quote you posted affirms that Rappin Duke. If I'm gonna reply to you, make it worth my while.
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Its the free hand of supply and demand. Very simple. If economic conservatives are afraid of appearing hypocritical for wanting government intervention when they constantly throw around terms like Marxism and Commies at people on the left who support government regulation, its a hard bullet, but they're gonna have to bite it. And your apology is accepted. Thats why you'll never rise above the rank of Duke.
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Duke, when you're sucking on Big Dumb Ape's dick, make sure to pull back your mullet. Smell it, smell it, ..now take it. Thats for you. Goodnight.
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Rappin Duke, don't even try having an intelligent argument on global economics with Bobo. He betrayed his true beliefs and allegiances and even his biases on global economics the moment he based his entire stance on the notion "Western countries have been exploiting foreign countries for years." Because, you know, once again America MUST be the BAD guys in any and all economic equations.And as you rightly pointed out, Duke, at least in my post I FAIRLY acknowledged WHY a foreign worker is trying to steal and secure outsourced American work -- they're willing to take ANYTHING to start their own economic ball rolling, after which THEN they'll start to drive up prices right back up, feeling they can now manipulate the system to THEIR advantage. In short, and in fairness, they're only looking out for themselves. In fact, this was best demonstrated recently when the Indian Foreign Minister -- in a move that surprised many except those who understand basic human nature and greed -- said a very loud "Fuck you" to the environmental Greeneis of the world and to any and all possible climate change regulations, when he stated that NOTHING comes in front of India's efforts to industrialize itself into a modern economic powerhouse. So if that means buying up and consuming more oil and spewing out more pollution...so it can now rival America or China or the entire EU...so be it. Basically he said, "After we get it the way WE like it, THEN we'll talk. But till then, PISS OFF."But going back to my post, as I said -- and Bobo is truly an unintelligent Bobo worthy of his name if he can't understand this simple basic fact -- you CAN'T have American workers struggling away, where BY LAW a minimum wage has to be paid to them, competing against overseas workers willing to work BELOW said wage levels. Hell, not even below them, but at subterranean depths in comparison. And Bobo, you said (quote): "What does any of that have to do with Big Dumb Ape saying 'FUCK countries like India taking outsourced American jobs.' He blames foreign workers, not the US government or companies."Earth to moron who can't read: clearly I was criticizing the companies TOO, which is WHY I noted how even a Federal Mediator took note that the COMPANY was just stalling for time at the bargaining table while it got its ducks lined up. So in truth my post DID criticize BOTH ends of the scale, noting the company was wrong to sell out its workers AND that foreigner workers are also to blame for undercutting American workers in ways that no one can compete against, not if they want to actually be able to pay their bills.So in the end, Bobo, we've learned two things here today. First, you know squat about economics, or whatever you do know is based on an anti-Western sentiment. And second, Rappin Duke was right when he stated that you have such LOW reading skill levels that your pea-sized brain can't even understand the MAIN IDEA of a post.
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There is a lot of dumb shit in this thread. I think Bollywood movies suck, but who really gives a fuck if Arnie and Sly have cameos in a Bollywood movie - and what does this have to do with American job security?!? people lighten up a little... Xenophobia is not healthy , and it also appears (at least in this talkback) as thought it is not uncommon.
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I understand free speech. I also understand the right to be able to say whatever you want. But isn't there a balance with common sense, intelligence, or even decency?
I understand this is a movie/new talkback, and I have no problems at all with people talking about how shit Indian movies are by their standards or arguing the various merits (or lack thereof) of mass-culture moviemaking that relies on iconic (and flat) characterization with no nuance. If you want debate the notions of romance narratives versus psychologically "real" fiction etc.
But for a talkback that mentions India to feature so many "funny" comments about outsourcing, beards, turbans, eating babies/monkeys/whatnot, accents, surveys...I understand it happens, I'm just registering my sadness.
And point well made, Monster - I won't take some comments to represent an all - but the sheer volume of ridiculous (not to mention ill-informed) commentary is a bit disheartening, isn't it?
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cameo by these two. They won't get any serious screen time. Remember the movie "Twins" when Arnie passes by the Rambo poster and laughs at it? This will be barely more than that. In other words...why even bother?
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Its okay for AMERICA to buy up industry in India (Coke and Pepsi buying all drink manufacturers in India) but the other way around?...Nooo way. It's okay for AMERICA to do retail and services in India (Starbucks, MacDonalds, Pizza Hut, Nike, Microsoft, Hilton, Holiday Inns) but the other way round? Nooooo way...It's okay for the US finance houses to get into India but the...yeah you get it...Its okay for Hollywood to get into India (Sony, Dreamworks, Disney) but the other way round? Nooo way...What a bunch of whiny ass pussy double-standard racist wank fuckers you are!! You fat-arse lazy fuckers are losing jobs cos you're weak. India builds on call centres. Americans and Europeans whine like babies. Indians close down call centres cos of your whining - and move in back room outsource services - thats something called ingenuity...the great American people, worried about a few outsourced jobs?...weak....Indians, Chinese, they don't whine - they just get on with it...bottom line... Bollywood makes a movie in Hollywood - big fucking deal. They're not going to take over America. They're not going to take over American business. They're not taking over the film industry...But the fact that you stupid mofos think they will - are scared that they will - show you to be the weak fucks you are. If this is the American spirit - America is dead by afternoon tea time. And the dick that said India and China are killing the planet - where the fuck did you go to school. America and the West have already stuck the dagger into the heart of the planet. America by refusing to sign various plant-saving treaties still are...killing the world. And its rich, having made tonnes of money, having become developed nations after destroying the planet - its rich to then turn around to the developing world - who also want riches like America and the West - it's rich to say "We got money by killing the planet, but you shouldn't. Oh no, that would be wrong." Screw that double standard. YOU did it. Why shouldn't they. Instead of stopping them, why not lead by example? Why not offer Green alternatives to help the developing world...? Why not sign up to Kyoto? HAH! America leading by example? Big joke that is!!
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Arnie...Sly...cameos like in The Player...or Last Action Hero...not even worth the print the story was written with...a Bollywood song, they appear in the background...California gets ad time in India, more Indian tourists (Indians were the biggest spenders as tourists last year in the UK, Switzerland and three other European Countries) visit California...more money for the local economy...more jobs in the tourist sector...more money for America...swings and roundabouts...oh and one more thing, India...still a very poor country compared to America (and most other countries) donated $2 million as aid to America after Hurricane Katrina. It may not be a lot but as a gesture...it shows that India wants to maintain a two-way relationship with the States...shame the ingnorant white aryan resistance shits amongst you have no concept of what peace and cooperation means...
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the stones are mine!
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Jun 23, 2008 4:36:36 AM CDT
Not a racist, but does not give two shits about India and WIPRO
by stalkeye
who have taken plenty of American Jobs, especially in the Customer Service industry. Why is it when I speak to a Dell or Microsoft CSR, I can't understand what the fuck they are saying? and to sya "my name is Alice, how can I help you"? is even more insulting.I also hate the fact that they think they are superior to other ethnic races or cultures while so eager to embrace on particular race.(What's up with the dellusions of granduer?!?)Fuck Bollywood and triple fuck greedy American Corporations that are quick to export jobs overseas, while still charging high costs for their businesses.Oh and mutha fuck "Ahhnold" Schwartzenegger while I'm at it.
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...really are full of degenerates. All it takes is an article about a non-white director or a foreign film to bring out the rednecks in droves.
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What's with the generalizations? Where do folks get off making judgemental remarks about an entire populace? Less than 5% of Indians in India speak English (yes, and most of them work in call centers - ha, ha), so extrapolate from that who you even know or have encountered. In any case, how the fuck does a BS piece of news on purported cameos being hyped by the Bollywood machine even lead to such ignorant vitriol?
I'd like to know how many of you intellectuals complaining about outsourcing ever dreamt of working the Microsoft help desk. And why don't you guys complain about the terrible animation and rendering in Pixar movies and shorts while you're at it; a fair amount of that stuff gets outsourced here as well. -
"Why is it when I speak to a Dell or Microsoft CSR, I can't understand what the fuck they are saying?" - Um, because you are an uneducated intolerant being who hasn't travelled further than your own front yard (?).
"and to sya "my name is Alice, how can I help you"? is even more insulting.." - Know your subject before you criticise it. AMERICAN companies provide a brief for all Indian call centres to follow, which include: Follow the script(written by Americans). Do not deviate from the script. Do not engage in conversation with the customer. Just follow the script. Also, answer with a Western European name because Americans are so stupid, your 'foreign name' won't register. American poicy is to treat Americans like idiots. With you Stalker - that is the correct policy. Finally, there are 30 million...30 MILLION...Christians in India. So, you may indeed be speaking to someone called Alice. You fucking thick shit racist moron. Thank you. -
Will Stallone get to hit on Arnolds hot little sister?
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"As for the economics of globalization.....if defending americans and their jobs is redneck then so be it"...hehehe REDNECK.
Outsourcing works two ways. The US does benefit. That's why it does it. Anyway - you're telling me that US call centre folks are not skilled enought to work elsewhere? Damn that great American education system.
On to this news item - Bollywood is simply a different movie form...musicals...some of the movies are good, some are not...who are you to say it sucks...under a billion people watch it and enjoy it...they may have a different view...the fact that you aren't willing to RESPECT that view, shows you for the redneck you are....go take your gun, smash a beer can on your forehead and shout yeeehaw you right wing redneck.
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...disgusting talkback. Xiphos gets banned yet openly racist fucknuts can rant and cavort here freely.
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is great. America is home to great landscapes, exciting cities and a bunch of warm people. Celebrate that cos its something to be proud of....why insult India - I can't imagine any other reason than hate and racism.
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GM or Ford. Congrats to Bollywood. I look forward to a better movies.
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...from the title after the way "The Incredible Hulk" tanked at the B.O. and was tag team reamed by Steve Carell and a friggin' cartoon panda last weekend. "The Hulk movie you've been waiting for," indeed. Harry continues his penchant for remarkable predictions (chortle). I can just hear Ang Lee right now: "At least my Hulk not as lame as hacky French guy's Hulk."
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It doesn't take much does it?
And yet again I'm reading another racist talkback here on AICN... Makes me sick listen you fuckers crying about "Wah, wah the nasty Indians took my call centre job!" Listen, if your ambition in life constitutes seeing a call centre job as the be all and end all then you belong in your fucking trailer...
Bearing in mind YOUR country was built off the back of immigrants... Calm yourself down and think before you open your mouth!
I am sick of coming on here and reading this shit... I thought this was a movie website?!?!!?!?
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please do some actual investigating when you report stuff like this. Neither actor is being cast in this project. Permission is being sought to use portions of their work in the movie, specifically, scenes from Running Man and Rambo.
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on both sides too. They are both as bad as each other. they deny that they are bigots. then they will say something "homosexuality is an abomination" a presenter will say but doesnt it say that Jesus love eryone equally. these bigots respond by saying but in the bible it says homosexuality is a sin and so forth and go on to say that they would love to put people on a path to jesus. born againers are the worst type. The wife of the First minister of Northern Ireland is one such twit. While she was ramming her beliefs down other peoples throats a young man 27, was recovering in Hospital after being nearly beaten to death. For what crime. He was Gay. and he was a prodestant.
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Nothing is more offensive than racism folks..
My dad lost his job as an electrician because the company moved down to mexico...does that mean the Mexican people (or latino's in general) are to blame?..of course not..that'd be
ridiculous and insane....2 qualities that seem rampant here at the moment...
as for india, and bollywood in general, there's nothing at all wrong with working on a bollywood production...or tieing into one with hollywood stars...could be a neat collaboration....
some of you may doubt this, but world-wide, bollywood stars such as Sharuk Khan are waaaaaaaaay more famous than hollywood stars...personally i'd love to see a big production staring Sharuk and a similar star in hollywood..i think that would be great....
I may be biased, as i absolutely love bollywood movies, but i think some of you (actually a lot of you) need to check the racist garbage at the door and remember...we're talking about movies here....so chill the fuck out and relax.... -
When a man who was an indian showed his work to disney. disney is alleged to have thundered "get this inkspot out of my sight" after tearing up this artists work. and reduing him to tears.
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...because there's a lot of them, and they turn their homework in on time. Cope or choke.
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There are several very good reasons that call centers have moved to India. 1- India is cheaper (but not as much as you might think) 2- India has a powerful workforce in the IT sector, as opposed to the USA, where technological cluelessness is epidemic. 3- Customer Care is superior because Indians actually enjoy working in Call Centers, as opposed to Americans, who just complain and act like they are too good for the job. 4- You can hire a dozen Indians for every American, thus, there are more CSR available to service your needs and shorter wait times. 5- Americans are selfish and indifferent to the needs of the community and thus do not hesitate to spend their money elsewhere. 6- Republicans refuse to subsidize education and economic development and convince the rest of the country that it's a waste of taxpayer dollars (see 5). 7- Private healthcare costs stymie business grow and employment in the USA. The list can go on forever. You could, of course, move to India, where foreigners are in demand and hired at competitive salaries.
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I remember I reviewed Boormans film A tigers tale and sent it in. I am used to getting slated about my posts and my country on this site occassionaly. but this one posters reaction was openly racist. nasty stuff. The irish voted down a major Referendum two weeks ago called the lisbon treaty The no camp spread fear and did it very well. They played to our fears over abortion, tax and Neutrality. I voted yes. and as did a lot of people. Irelands and indeed the worlds economy is in a downturn. The fear of the future is a powerful weapon. A couple of years ago company called Irish ferries sacked thier irish work force and replaced them with cheap foreign labour. This brought the trade unions on to the streets and i did detect some racist rumblings. Irish ferries is owned by a group called intercontinental. its head was unrepentent. if the irish dont want the work. it is my right to get people who will. and from any country I like outside europe.
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you say "GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!" in indian?
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I know one of you fuckers speaks Hindi on here...
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Hibernian. has announced that it is laying off 580 jobs over the next three years. 80 of those jobs will be heading to bangalore, where Hibernians parent company called Avivra is based. Things in ireland are changing.
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Jun 23, 2008 1:03:36 PM CDT
"Ashkay" Kumar? what the fuck is wrong with you Merrick?
by still_rusted
Cant you buffoons cross-check the actor's name atleast? His name is Akshay Kumar. Yahoo! Movies reported the same story, and changed his name to "Ashray Kumar". Are you sick puppies involved in a massive conspiracy inside-gag? Or are you guys really dumb and ignorant about the rest of the world, just like everyone says?
By the way, Kambaqht does NOT mean Incredible. Its used as a swear and a catch-all phrase for irritating/annoying/stupid/unlucky. Ishq means love. -
whine away xenophobes...i find it amusing that you can sit there and blame Indians (and then defend others who do by approving of their racism) for "taking" your jobs. No one came to the US and held your employers at gunpoint. Ask the CEO's of the great American corporations who choose to shift jobs to poor countries to save a few bucks so that they can market products cheaper to you guys, while they get rich on higher profits. Its easy to blame a call center worker whos trying to communicate with someone from a different culture, but hard to admit that it might be one of your own whos choosing to fire your asses huh?
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Bring me Rambo 5 and Rocky 7
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ho jana ko vaha tukde-se
But then I am told you could actually say that in about 15 different ways..so I did a random pick of one of the shorter ones -
Get=ho jana
to=ko
the=vaha
chop=tukde
per=se
I do not think the last two words should go together (I made a new word) but as they are the closest thing to a direct translation of Chopper I will lobby all my dark friends to demand it is included in the next Hindi dictionary. -
Glad to make your day you overdramatic lil' bitch. What, did i say something too offensive that hurt your feelings? Sorry but your response has stooped lower than my level.I state the obvious from my and many others' experiences dealing with CSRs who happen to be Indian, this is not about racism or Xenophobia you sack of ass grease It's ok to bash American companies, but when I make a comment about India you call me a racist. just shut your fucking mouth and be grateful that you're miles away from me, meaning you wouldn't get away with that shit if you said it in my face "tough guy".With that out of the way, thanks Knucleface for providing a more detailed explanation of why call centers have moved overseas.And I concur with your reasons 5-7.It's however sad when so many Americans are losing their jobs due to the ailing economy and not to mention that unemployment extentions are very limited these days thanks to Bush and his goddamn vetos.Hopefully we will see better days ahead.
Obama 08!! -
God bless you.
"ho jana ko vaha tukde se!!!!"
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The tastes of India's 1 billion people reflect their socioeconomic status more than their culture.Bollywood has shit all to do with India. Their music videos and movies are racey in a different way than American movies. Take out the sex, take out any meaning or context, and have gratuitous softcore foreplay in the form of song/dance (Bollywood's changed in the last few years, if this sounds unfamiliar you might be remembering the '90s, '80s and earlier).Now someone tell me how the FUCK does this happen from a culture which sought to FINE Richard Gere for kissing that one actress? Nothing in those movies has any correlation to Indians or their lives, yet "Bollywood" somehow pumps out a million of these and they're tolerated by that culture which frowns upon everything else.So where the fuck did this crap come from? Because that's what it is, crap.This story means nothing. Arnie and Sly still haven't been in a real movie together.
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You are right that Bollywood videos are filled with sexualized imagery that conflicts with the more strict conservativism depicted by Indian news stories (ie Richard Gere). Unfortunately, religious fundamentalism exists everywhere, and in every belief system, and, like Bill Dobson in the States, the wacko fundie minority is always louder than the contented majority. Most Indians like their sexy videos and have no problem with them. But you don't hear about level-headed and sensible people in the news because sensibility doesn't sell. Make no mistake, India is a huge country filled with many different and often conflicting belief systems. The Hindus and the Muslims, in particular, have a lot of animosity between themselves. Pakistan and Bangladesh were once part of India, but separated when fighting between Hindus and Muslims were at their worst. Unfortunately, recent terrorism and historical amnesia are currently threatening to rip that old wound wide open once again. The good news for those of you in America who so desperately want your call centre jobs back: India could once again succumb to widespread sectarian violence due to a confluence of economic disparities and tribal rivalries. In that sad case, Western investments are likely to pull their industries out of India.
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One thing you wrote made me laugh: "I'm not opposed to some type of govt. regulation making American minimum wage mandatory for anyone competing with Americans for jobs". Dude, the American minimum wage is the lowest wage in the modernized world. What is it now, $5.75 an hour?! If that were really the issue, then why has so much work been outsourced to Canada, where the minimum wage currently stands at $9 p/h CAN... or roughly $9.20US right now.
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