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A New MUMMY Movie Test Screens in California!

Hey folks, Harry here - Well - it looks like the new Sommer-less MUMMY movie is indeed fun, still goofy, but fun. And I'm so excited about the Yeti. I'm a big fan of Yeti... and 3 headed Dragons. This just sounds like goofy fun!

Saw the new Mummy tonight… The big twist this time around as we’ve all been seeing in trailers, is that the story is about the supernatural mysteries of China rather than Egypt. One of the pleasures of the first Mummy was its travelogue quality, and its setting in a time where discoveries — and the consequences of discoveries — could be made. That whole feeling is very present here, and its simplicity energizes a story that is in many ways unremarkable... It was probably a safe bet on the part of the producers to base the structure of this film on the first one. We start with a prologue in ancient China where a ruthless warlord (Jet Li) has conquered most of China, ruling it with murder and fear. But he wants more and decides what he really wants is immortality (I think... this whole part is subtitled). He hears of a wizard who knows the secret of immortal life and sends for him, only to find that he is dead and his work has been taken up by his daughter (Michelle Yeoh). Jet takes one look at Michelle and realizes he wants immortality with a side of Yeoh, but she rebuffs him. She then falls in love with one of Jet’s lieutenants, and when Jet find out, he has the rival killed. Michelle takes revenge by pretending to give Jet a spell of immortality, but instead curses him to an eternity as a stone figure. The Emperor and his entire army – seemingly thousands of them – crack and bleed and are finally baked into the familiar figures of the famous Terra Cotta soldiers of China Great, great effects sequence. We skip ahead some 2,000 years later, when Alec O’Connell (who we last saw as a young boy in Mummy Returns), following in the footsteps of his antiquity-hunting parents, discovers the tomb of the emperor and his army and arranges for the find to be transported to Shanghai. We then catch up with Rick and Evelyn, who have retired from the adventurous life and are living in utter boredom on a huge estate in England. Their tea time is interrupted by an agent from the Home Office who asks them to travel to China to return a precious antiquity to its rightful resting place. They decline, but when they are told that Alex has discovered the tomb, they know that know good will come of it. Using the transport of the antiquity as an excuse, off they go to Shanghai. And off we go in the familiar tone of this series. They meet up with Alex and Evelyn’s brother Jonathan, everyone’s double-crossed, the Emperor is returned to life and the chase is on.... A chase through the streets of 1940’s Shanghai, across the Himalyas and into the remote deserts of China. Though resurrected, the Emperor needs to get to Shangri-La, where he ticks another step on the way to eternal life and acquires new powers: he can transform himself to a three-headed Ghidorah-like dragon and into one of those dragon dogs you see in museums. Michelle Yeoh turns up again and oh, and did I mention the tribe of Yeti’s that help our heroes escape an avalanche? Some of the logic is tough to understand (not helped by the occasional subtitles interpreting Chinese and Yeti), but the action is all staged on a huge scale and the visual effects are pretty spectacular (none of the wobbly stuff that marked the worst aspects of Mummy Returns). Some of it is very, very funny... and you realize how nice it is to see these characters again. Fraser and Hannah are great as they always are, and Maria Bello tries her best to make you forget that she’s not Rachel Weisz. Sometimes she succeeds, especially, when her hair is back. Jet Li is a great presence, and they’ve saved some terrific bits for him in the finale. There’s a point where you’re thinking, why did they need Jet Li for this role? The answers are in the final sequence. Very cool. Enough details. This is a fun, action-packed and visually spectacular with great momentum and great locations. I would not go so far as to say that it is the best of the three, but it is way better than Mummy Returns and a worthy follow-up to the first one WHICH I WATCH WHAT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DAMN SUNDAY ON STARZ OR USA whether I like it or not. That’s the best thing about Mummy films. You just like them, and I liked this one very much. K.B.D.
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  • June 18, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST


    by surprider

    yeah baby!!!

  • June 18, 2008, 1:38 a.m. CST


    by Fat and Curious

    How mundane

  • June 18, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    summer movies

    by surprider

    mummies,dragons,yeti and jet li...who needs logic?

  • June 18, 2008, 1:54 a.m. CST

    fifth or sixth

    by the podosphere

    Sounds like a fun popcorn romp.

  • June 18, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Awww, Brendan Fraiser...

    by David Cloverfield

    What a great captain planet you could've been :D. Seriously though, this movie seems to have everything.

  • June 18, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    I'm not usually bothered by CGI but...

    by Lyghthouse

    The Yeti in the trailer was "I Am Legend" bad. Terrible, terrible CGI.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Not the first

    by daisysyo

    My friends on always want to be the first one

  • June 18, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    good for the kids

    by Rupee88

    otherwise wgas

  • June 18, 2008, 2:08 a.m. CST

    This looks like lots of fun...

    by The Grug

    They've got my $16 (yes, seriously - that's how much a damn movie ticket costs in Australia these days)

  • June 18, 2008, 2:13 a.m. CST

    The Grug...

    by Charlie & Tex

    A mere $16? Here in the UK, the average price to see something in a multiplex is around the equivalent of AU$25.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    The First Mummy is Fun.

    by Redfive!

    Ill give this a chance and go to an early cant be any worse then Kingdon of the crystal skull.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Get out the fertilizer!

    by Dasinfogod

    ...'cause I smell me a plant! Sorry, had to put that it in, since nobody else has yet. Actually, it sounds like it might be fun as a good matinee on a hot day. I enjoyed the first flick and and the first half of the second one. Now, if only they could find a way to bring back the great Bernard Fox into the series...

  • June 18, 2008, 2:26 a.m. CST

    'a tribe of yetis'

    by bobaswart

    it's a must see now. movies need more yetis. they're real!!??!!

  • June 18, 2008, 2:26 a.m. CST


    by soup74

    why did they bother recasting rachel weisz's character.. they should have just written her out. I'm not a big fan of recasting (I'm gonna make an exception for Dark Knight though.)

  • June 18, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST


    by icen9ne

    How do you say "plant" in Egyptian?

  • June 18, 2008, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Weisz Isnt Ever Hot. Or A Good Actress

    by Frodo T. Baggins

    For me. She killed the Fountain, Constantine, & The Mummy Returns. When she was an unknown in the Mummy 1. Her shirt was see through when she got kidnapped. That was awesome. But shes a lil over actor/her american accent sucks assholes dry. Kinda like how in Saw 1 and Georgia Rule whats his nuts. (Robin Hood from Robin Hood Men In Tights) His American accent is far beyond ass. She is the SHE version of that dude. And she gives me diariah

  • June 18, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Good lord, what's with the Weisz hate?

    by Zeke25:17

    She's fucking ADORABLE. Nothing against Maria Bello at all; but I was kinda hoping they wouldn't recast Evelyn and instead create another character entirely. Oh well: I'll still see this, mainly because Fraser is a cool dude. But I'll still be missin' me slice of Rachel.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    I liked both mummies


    Sue me.

  • June 18, 2008, 3 a.m. CST


    by MaxTheSilent

  • June 18, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    Gotta be better than CRYSTAL SKULL

    by Mullah Omar

    I am almost - almost - embarrassed to admit that I prefer Indiana Jones ripoffs like THE MUMMY and NATIONAL TREASURE instead of INDY 4, which I loathed. But that's how it is.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Mullah Omar

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Don't talk shit. There's more filmmaking skill in the first 5 minutes of Skull than there is in Mummy and National Treasure put together.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Maria Bello is a hottie, but

    by V'Shael

    the Mummy hasn't been fun since the original. It has however, been major-league stupid. I'll be giving this a pass.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:23 a.m. CST


    by bobaswart

    ...but if filmaking skill can only put together 5 min for a 2 hour film that's weak sauce and piss poor filmaking

  • June 18, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST

    At least it'll be better than 'Crystal Skull'

    by Hooded Justice

    Amazing. The 'Mummy' franchise was originally an inferior copy of the Indy franchise.<p>And now 'Crystal Skull' is an inferior copy of the 'Mummy' franchise. Never thought that would happen. But it has.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Cary Elwes is the "Guy" Rachel Weisz

    by Goldfingah

    And yes, his American accent is awful. For my money though, the worst faux American accent I've ever heard was the one of Ioan Gruffudd in the first Fantastic Four movie! Ouch! I've seen the trailers, and well, this movie actually looks fun. I took some consolation from knowing that I at least Indy 4 better than the Mummy movies, but that might change with this... ...and to revive something brought up elsewhere: is Brendan Fraser's hair a wig or hair-weave?

  • June 18, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    I at least LIKED Indy 4 better than the Mummy movies

    by Goldfingah

    Damn it, my first post on this site EVER and already I yearn for a freaking EDIT button. Is it too much to ask...?

  • June 18, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Someone help this poor guy with the subtitles.

    by RedwingsHoolihan

    I think he's having trouble.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Wasn't a fan of the first.

    by Psyclops

    But I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the sequel. It was completely over-the-top but it felt like one of those crazy theme park rides. I'm not sure how this one will play out but the trailers look promising. To be honest, it's probably the last film on my "must see" list for this summer.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Can't be Worse than Indy 4

    by Captain RawBeard

    Indy 4 had tiny sparks of good bits but was surrounded by tons of shit. We had the Mummy 3 trailer when we saw Crystal Skull and my friends and me talked about that more than the film.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST


    by ChickenStu

    My oldest will probably want to see this so I'll take him. I'm not really excited about the idea tho. I loved the first movie, but I thought the second one was dogshit. The second one was even worse than the dumb spin-off movie that starred "The Rock".

  • June 18, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    I liked the first two

    by Kurutteru Yatsu

    This looks to be along the same lines so I imagine I'll dig it as well.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Why not buy the DVD?

    by MattInTheHat

    OK, $16 per ticket in Aussie, equivalent $25 in UK, so why bother going? Why not wait a couple of months and buy the DVD for the same price? I enoy the experience but it's now at about the same price point ($16 ticket + $10 food vs $30 for a new DVD).

  • June 18, 2008, 4:55 a.m. CST

    "The Mummy hasn't been fun since the original"

    by Big Dumb Ape

    What the heck does THAT mean? You make it sound like there's been a zillion sequels and none have lived up to the original. For crying out loud, there's only been two movies -- THE MUMMY and THE MUMMY RETURNS. So by saying "it hasn't been fun since the original", you're admitting that you LIKED the first one -- which means the movies are batting .500 for you. So why not give this one a try?<p>Ahhh, to each their own. Personally, I thought the trailer looked fun especially when they broke out the Yetis -- that sold me on the spot. THAT'S what a fun, doofy, summer popcorn movie to get out of the summer heat is all about, Baby! And for all the bitching that usually comes out where someone just feels compelled to yell, "But it looks like bad CGI! Bad CGI!", I thought things in the trailer looked okay enough to warrant seeing this on the big screen.<p>Another reason I'll check it out: my favorite movie of the summer so far has been SPEED RACER, the only other movie whose trailer made me think "Hey, you know, that looks kind of fun"...and it was.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST

    dogphart3000 is a cunt

    by masteryoda007

    nuff said

  • June 18, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Charlie & Tex

    by Pandas

    Good grief, where in the UK do you two live? It's about 5 and a half to 6 quid where I live, even in the "big name" multiplexes. That's about 11-12 Australian dollars.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:14 a.m. CST


    by Pandas

    No, just checked online, it's 6.75 now, but that's still under 14 Australian dollars.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST

    It's always amazed and sort of worried me

    by MrFusion

    how people use the wrong spelling of "no", EVER. From above: "...they know that know good will come of it."

  • June 18, 2008, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Yes goofy and fun, but without Rachel :(

    by XxSoulFlyxX

    she's hot. I will still go see it though.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Charlie & Tex


    Where are you going to pay £12 to watch a movie? It's around £5-6 where I live (also in the UK). I think I paid £5.60 to watch The Incredible Hulk on Saturday night.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST


    by BanAllFIRSTPosters

    a tree for Earth Day. It's never too late.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:31 a.m. CST

    I am surprised


    That plant has only been called a few times. Classic plant. Point out some negatives without going overboard, say what's good and rag on some other related topic that everyone hates. PLANT.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    by puzzledman69

    I always thought a better idea for the mummy sequel would have been to have Fraser fighting another type of monster, like the wolfman or some shit. Rather than crowbarring in a way for imhotep to return. Kinda like this I suppose. I think it's a mistake that too many films series make to try and make all the stories connect rather than having seperate adventures. I talking to you Pirates of the Carribean.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Looks completley over the top and a lot of fun.

    by Yeti

    Perfect popcorn flick.<p> And there are Yeti in it so i'm there. (I'm ready for my close up)

  • June 18, 2008, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Confused by Yeti subtitles?

    by Jonah Echo

    Okay, the review is fine. I don't think it's a plant. Sounds par for the course for a Mummy movie.If it tones down the video game feel of the second, it has a good chance of being a fun time. But, heres my question regarding the review. The writer says that the movie was harder to understand at places, and this might have been because of subtitles. Now, if he can't read english, that would something. And I understand potentially thinking that the subtitled translation from chinese to english might be off(unlikely since this was always supposed to be an english speaking film) but confusion over whether the Yeti subtitles were accurately representing the Yeti speech? As if the directors might have accidentally mis-represented what the Yetis were saying. <p> Can't wait to point out the inconsistencies in the theater. You see where it reads, "Noble Rick, we will help you on your quest". What that yeti is really saying is "Leave now or we will piss yellow icicles all over the one who looks like George of the Jungle."

  • June 18, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST


    by chipps

    I wonder, will there be the same copious level of rope cutting as there was in mummy 2? Whenever they set off in the ballon they cut the rope. How long did that fucking thing start off as. I was just waiting at the end, as they took off for someone to yell "quick, throw me a rope!" "sorry, we cut them all in half."

  • June 18, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST


    by chipps

    I wonder, will there be the same copious level of rope cutting as there was in mummy 2? Whenever they set off in the ballon they cut the rope. How long did that fucking thing start off as. I was just waiting at the end, as they took off for someone to yell "quick, throw me a rope!" "sorry, we cut them all in half."

  • June 18, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Free Xiphos from purgatory!!!

    by just pillow talk

  • June 18, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    You are RACIST!

    by TheBloop

    Have you ever been to ancient Chinese temple? Do you know anything about the place mummies hold in their culture? Did you know that gay mummies could wed in ancient China?.....there, we can now let this devolve like the Capone/Hulk talkback.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:08 a.m. CST

    aww crud.

    by chipps

    and for those of you who are always whinging about these movies: watch them drunk. It works till you have to pee.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Is there any point

    by Series7

    in arguing over this film? I am pretty sure the Mummy’s are movies you either enjoy or don't care for. I don't think anyone puts either of them in there top ten. So who cares if they replaced Alfred Newmans sister, this is George of the Jungles movie. If anything be upset they recast the mummy guy with someone other then Bruce Payne. But it sounds/looks like they decided to do something different rather then deal with the same mummy played by a different actor. If anyone is saying, OH I'm not seeing this because Mrs. Aronofsky is not in it, then they weren't going to see the movie in the first place. I mean all she did in the first two Mummy’s was stand there while Fraser ran around like a mad man, with a dumb grin on her face begging for me to score some extra points through those uprights.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Yes, looking forward to it.

    by DocPazuzu

    Even more so after the crushing disappointment of Indy 4. Never thought I'd admit it, but this looks like it could be more fun than KOTCS, which pains me to say more than you can imagine. <p> I wonder what the Bainbridge scholars have to say about that?

  • June 18, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    I remember a time

    by Series7

    when I though Mummy 2 was the most ludicrous adventure film I would ever see, then I saw nuke the fridge and it cremated Mummy 2 in its over the topness. But unlike Indy, I want over the top in the Mummy movies and Rob Cohen movies are meant to be seen on the big screen (and only once). All I can hope for in this movie is to have at least one (maybe two) good chair tosses out of Fraser. And its good to see Kate from Lost get acti...wait that’s not Kate from Lost, oh well that character doesn't matter anyways. <P> PART TIME!

  • June 18, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Once again, AICN gives airtime to an obvious PLANT

    by Merriman Lyon

    The plants are terrible - no clue about to how to write a convincing "review".<p>Having said that, as bad as the Mummy movies are, they are still better than the awfulness of Indy 4 (I mean, a "crystal skull"? Come on!) So the Mummy 3 gets a pass from me but I still won't see it.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Oh and...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I would drink Rachel Weisz's bath water.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Charlie & Tex...

    by The Grug

    That's brutal, however wages in the UK are for the most part substantially higher than their Aussie equivalents (at least they were when I was there) - so I think proportionally they probably work out fairly similar... at any rate we're both being stooged. :(

  • June 18, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Hurray Yetti Balls!!!

    by wowsucks

    It's a Disney thing.. ** **

  • June 18, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    While a crap movie...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I don't understand the hate for Mummy 2. It's awful, but not disappointingly so. No childhoods raped, etc. <p> Ricarleite -- Wild Wild West was excrutiating, much more so than Mummy 2. <p> Van Helsing, on the other hand....

  • June 18, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Is this the one in 3-D?

    by Series7

    2 yes count'em 2! Action adventure movies starring Sir Brendan Fraser are coming to explode our minds this summer. Thank god we live in this time.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    The Mummy vs Indiana Jones????

    by proton45

    Your joking right??? You guys can't really be arguing over which one is better...can you?!? This argument was settled a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... And besides...everyone knows that Capt Kirk can kick Jean-Luc Picard ass...

  • June 18, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST



    you can't call a movie fun. Fun is what old ladies call scrapbooking, or clothes from the quacker factory. Fun is also what they call something they don't quite like but are afraid to insult.<P> for instance their goth daughter walks into the room, and the mom nervously says her giant spiked platform boots look 'fun'.

  • June 18, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    I like the tongue in cheek feel of this series, though

    by terry1978

    Yeah, Indy was the first, but I liked what they did with these characters, instead of making them all too cliche, most of them are fully self aware and realize the stupidity of the shit going on around them, which makes it funnier.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Some of you are retarded.

    by Sailor Rip

    I'll never understand all the KotCS hate. People love to build things up just to tear them down.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Mummy 2 is crap

    by Lost Jarv

    and Camden Odeon is over £10 a ticket. Fuckers. The West End is even worse- I don't get how a 5 minute tube ride can add a couple of quid to the fucking ticket price. <P>FREE XIPHOS

  • June 18, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    Maybe, but there were some fucking dubious deliberate misspellings in there ("know=no" for example.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    All You Indy 4 Haters SUCK BALLS!!!

    by BilboRing

    Second best Indy movie of them all. The Mummy movies do not even compare. They compare more to National Treasure movies, which suck massive whale anus! The fist Mummy was decent. The second was terrible. Indy owns all the wannabe movies like these!

  • June 18, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Indy wins, hands down...

    by Lou Stools

    Was Crystal Skull perfect?...shit no. Was it entertaining and did it fit in well with the other sequels?...shit yeah! Look, I hated the monkeys and Prairie Dogs as much as anyone, but Jesus Christ on a transporter pad what a bunch of pissy whiners! And since Lucas has obviously gone out of his way to cinematically flip off the pimply-assed, finger-sniffing, crawl-up-the-laundry-chute-to-catch-a-glimpse-of-my-mom's-enormous-thatch-while-she’s-on-the-pot, emotionally pre-pubescent fanboy denizens of AICN, here’s hoping the inflatable neck goes back and digitally inserts UFOs all over the original trilogy! Oh, and here’s hoping he further twists your man tits by making the next flick take place 20 years on and opens with a recreation of the TOD club scene set in a roller disco with Mutt in a leisure suit!

  • June 18, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Prarie Dogs and Monkeys

    by BilboRing

    I thought they were major parts of the movie when I read the haters reviews before I saw the film. But they are just there. They were entertaining and not "in your face" trying to be cute. I didn't think they did anything to ruin the movie at all. And I hated the Lucas abortions that are called Episodes I, II and III.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    If by "retarded" you mean we're brilliant

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Because we're the ones who see KotCS for what it really is, a steaming pile of corn-filled camel shit that even dung beetles are embarrassed to be seen around, then yes, we're supremely retarded.<p>And yes, judging from the trailer, this might very well be better than Indy 4. Mummy Returns was better than Indy 4 and Mummy Returns was a stinker.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Better than the new Indie?

    by aversiontherapy2

    I think the first Mummy film, like the first PotC film, captured the sense of adventure that made the first Indiana Jones films so good, and was lacking so badly from the newest one. Perhaps this film will show Spielberg et al what they were missing.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    The Mummy movies...

    by Fortunesfool

    ...weren't fun, unless by fun you mean, dull, vacuous, badly written crap papered over with some 'cutting edge'? Cgi to make you think its good. Arnold Vosloo was the villian FFS!!!!!

  • June 18, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Weisz has a hot little ass....

    by classyfredblassy

    Did you see how hot see look in "Definitely, Maybe" with Ryan (deadpool) Reynolds? No, I didn't see the movie either, but she looked good in the trailers! Actually she was pretty good in "Constantine". I dug the whole movie an feel it is pretty underrated.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    But can it compete with an Alien & a Nuked Fridge?

    by Mr. Profit

    Kidding. Crystal Skull was fun, but it was more like TEMPLE OF DOOM Part 2. Outlandish action. But whatever, it wasn't a bad movie at all despite the many instances of "Shenanigans". Hopefully Mummy 3 is fun. This Summer movie season has been unexpectedly fun.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Rachel W.

    by Guy Gaduois

    Don't know if she's a fave, but my happy, pervy side really enjoyed her naked moon in 'Enemy at the Gates'. I really enjoyed that scene quite a bit.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST


    by Merriman Lyon

    I've read it - it sounds a lot better than the crystal skull movie.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    That's how I see it...

    by Lou Stools

    Crystal skull was a stylistic sequal to Doom, whereas Last Crusade was a stylistic sequal to Raiders. Simple as that.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Mummy Returns was NOT better than Indy 4

    by Lost Jarv

    Indy 4 was not bad enough to get worked up about and not good enough to defend. It's just sort of there- which is the worst things about an Indy film. <P>Mummy returns was appaling garbage that came complete with a vomit-inducing child. Horrible.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST


    by Nozoki

    I was hoping for the same thing after the first one. I really enjoyed that one, and I wanted Rick to work his way through all the old classic monsters. Werewolves, vampires, creatures from black lagoons. Why recycle the same bad guy, same plot, with some reincarnation shit shoe-horned in to make it try to fit. Part 2 had some fun moments, but not enough. Part 3 looks like we might be on track to get a little of what we want. Yetis and dragons are better than just more mummies.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    I love the Mummy films!

    by kafka07

    oh I hope they never stop making them BLEH

  • June 18, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    this should be fun

    by j2talk

    Can't wait.....This looks to have the elements that INDY 4 was missing (I mean the film was OK, but the alien temple was hokey) Now this one looks Fun....and I believe Rob Cohen has stated that this is the first of a trilogy ......Now if they'd just start working on the next National Treasure.........

  • June 18, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST


    by David Cloverfield

    I heard that he's a jerk before. It's weird, I can't imagine him to be the asshole many people say he is. Probably thanks to Blast from the Past. They even poked fun at it in Looney Tunes back in action, with the real BF being an enormous asshole.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST

    "I think... this whole part is subtitled"

    by RaveX


  • June 18, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay


    Damn You Michael Bay

  • June 18, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST


    by just pillow talk

  • June 18, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by Sailor Rip

    "Mummy Returns was better than Indy 4" <p> God help us all.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Objectively speaking...

    by DocPazuzu least as much as is possible, Indy 4 is a much better film than Mummy 2. <p> However. <p> I felt a lot worse after seeing Indy 4 than after I saw Mummy 2. The latter is shit, to be sure, but I was neither offended, bored nor disappointed by it, whereas the former left me feeling all three. <p> FREE XIPHOS!

  • June 18, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Hate locked him up...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...but man-love is gonna bust him out! <p> FREE XIPHOS!

  • June 18, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    -sigh- It's called a Hydra, and it's GREEK.

    by Anna Valerious

    This is why I'm objecting to this movie. If Sommers wrote it, this nonsense wouldn't be in there. At least he researches what he writes, and this error wouldn't be in there. I had an idea for a sequel where Rick and Evie wouldn't have been needed, as it would've taken place in 1977 where Alex is working at the Museum of Natural History and the King Tut exhibit rolls around. (You can probably tell what happens next.) Thus, I'm behind "G.I. JOE".

  • June 18, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST


    by just pillow talk

    Apparently Xiphos got banned within the last 24 hours in one of the obit threads. I cannot imagine Xiphos saying anything to get himself banned, especially with some of the past comments from BraneRobot and others.<p>FREE XIPHOS!

  • June 18, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Who'd win

    by Series7

    Prarie dogs or little mummy vodoo dudes from Mummy 2? <P> See Crystal Skull came off too much as a sequel to Mummy then Indie, thats probably be cause ever since Indie 3 all adventure movies have been out to out Indie Indie.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    gimme a break

    by seabiscuits

    mummy movies and national treasure movies are entertaining yes, but they don't have 1 thing that indiana jones 1,2,3 AND 4 has, a badass main character.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Sailor Rip

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Well, I only saw Mummy Returns once and I don't remember much about the movie. In fact, I forgot it had a kid in it. I can only remember my reaction walking out of it which was, "Boy that movie really sucked." But when comparing that reaction to the one I had walking out of Crystal Skull, "Wow, that dogshit was excruciatingly bad" then I figured the Mummy Returns was better. Either way, I'm not going to revisit it to find out. It was painful to watch the first time, life is too short to subject myself to it again.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by Sailor Rip

    Fair enough.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    *sigh* Anna Valerious

    by DocPazuzu

    Hydras don't only have three heads, but numerous noggins -- each of which is replaced by two if the original is chopped off. <p> In your endless zeal to defend your so-called "Sommersverse" you have entered the realm of Epic Fail. <p> Now go back to your LXG cosplay shenanigans.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by brassai2003

    Dark Horizons is reporting that the movie isn't even finished yet. N omusic, the effects are being finalized and there was nothing abou tthis in the review? Guys, c'mon, a screening in Cali. and only ONE person hits up AICN? you put up anything you get sent?

  • June 18, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Anna Valerious

    by Lost Jarv

    You complete fucking twat. You were thinking of cereberus. The Nemean Hydra started out with 7 heads (I think) and for every one Heracles cut off, 2 grew in its place. <P>Massive self-pwnage. <P>Funnily enough, Sommers only good film (Deep Rising)has a very Hydra-esque thing in it. <P>I wish I could still find that cosplay site as I'd post the link just for the sake of humiliating you.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Cereberus= Dog with 3 heads

    by Lost Jarv

    I know that before any of you question me.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Free XIPHOS

    by Lost Jarv

    CoC Does not approve of this banning. Pencil Jihad if you don't FREE XIPHOS

  • June 18, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST


    by Underoos Hero


  • June 18, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    Something has just occured to me- this film is very much an "adulthood rape" for Valerious. It's the equivalent of the Star Wars Prequels for her.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by Underoos Hero

    Read for yourselves!! http://www.robcohenthe scoring.php Damn I thought that us talkbackers were dragging this site down. No so, it's these hacks who run it. Please fill us in and tell me if I'm wrong. Hello? Harry? Anyone?

  • June 18, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    PLANT....This movie is NOT FINISHED!!!

    by Underoos Hero

    http://www.robcohenthe scoring.php

  • June 18, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST


    by Underoos Hero

    FINISHING AUDIO TOUCHES June 17, 2008 9:17 AM Dear Mummy Family-- I'm here at TODD-AO Dubbing Reel 3 (out of seven) up against the time line, as usual. The baby will soon be out for everyone to see on August 1st, but, in order to make that date with the 4,000 plus prints, everything, including the 949 visual effects shots have to be locked by July 3rd. Time is growing short. Dubbing is a fascinating process, a meticulous process by which the sound effects (tens of thousands of them), the music, and the dialog are balanced together to create the sound tapestry of the movie. If it's done well, the mix will deliver the excitement of the effects, clarity to the dialog, and the cohesion of the music--but all these elements have to share a common space in your local theater, even in 5.1 and that's the trick, to choreograph the three elements for maximum effect. Of course, that is a matter of taste. Some directors favor a vivid, almost naked sound effects and dialog approach ("No Country for Old Men"); other like to let the music dominate (like Terry Malick's film "Days of Heaven"). In the first two "Mummy" movies, Stephen Sommers did an excellent dub, balancing everything for maximum effect that made those movies extremely vivid. I want to deliver no less to you. The scoring in London went so well. Randy Spent ten days, two sessions a day, with the 105 piece London Symphony and the music is doing a great job giving the movie bravado, adventure, and thematic beauty. I'm not seeing much of my wife Barbara or my triplets these days as dubbing goes on ten hours a day, visual effects about five hours a day, and color timing another three hours from 10 till 1 A.M. It's a glorious process finishing a film, seeing it all knit together. I have completed 783 visual effects and have 196 to go. It will be a photo finish but I take a lot of pride and satisfaction in the quality and diversity of the effects. You've gotten a taste in the teaser trailer, which brings us to this... The full trailer will be attached to the head of "WANTED" coming out July 27th. But, of course, it will debut here first. I've attached a few photos for your perusal. In six weeks, you will be seeing 24 pictures per second for 1 Hr. 54 Minutes of "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" with all its bells and whistles blazing. Then, I'm going surfing!!!!! Bye, for now... Rob

  • June 18, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST


    by Underoos Hero

  • June 18, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    hehe- Meanwhile at Warner Brothers

    by Lost Jarv

    "Sir, panic, Sir" <P>"Settle down Philibrick, take a deep breath and tell me what's wrong" <P>"It's the AICN hordes again sir, they've, they've, oh sir, it's too horrible" <P>"COME ON Philibrick, spit it out" <P>"They've twigged our advance tumbleweed sir. You remember we thought we could sneak him through with a mediocre review and then disprove it later? Well they've busted him." <P>"GODDAMN IT PHILIBRICK, you know this kind of thing makes my balls hurt. How did they catch him?" <P>"Apparently sir, Cohen has a blog"

  • June 18, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    AICN is PAID to give airtime to obvious PLANTS

    by Merriman Lyon

    And as for Mummy 2 having an annoying kid in it.......<p>Isn't it true that Indy 4 features Indy's kid???!!!!!!! Which is more annoying? At least the Mummy franchise started out mediocre - it's got no legacy to flush down the toilet. The Indy franchise would have been much better off without 'Crystal Skull.' I say again: FILM THE DARABONT SCRIPT.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    That's true, and inherently sad on so many, many levels that I just want to go lie down for a while until the weariness passes.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Could they have screened an unfinished movie?

    by g-ride9000

    I've seen them, you've seen them.... wtf??

  • June 18, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Mummy Two: Rachel fights Patricia

    by zinc_chameleon

    There's a fight scene in ancient Egypt that I have to wear a bib for, when I watch it. Did everyone forget what a babe Patricia Velasquez is? Maria Bello and Michell Yeoh are just tooooo skinny to have that kind of scenic impact.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    We get it. You were right. <P>So tell me what to watch next, oh filmic nostradamus. <p>Or alternatively, stop being such a cunt.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    If you read the review........

    by Underoos Hero

    Just read the goddamn review of the movie and you can see how "general" the review is (it was fabricated up). It's obvious that someone surmised what the story would be about (then they generalized it), wrote a fake review and sent it in to Aint We Lazy News. HARRY?!! WTF?!! hahahah

  • June 18, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    I wish I could still find that cosplay link. <P>I wouldn't open it this time, it was retina burningly awful, but it's always good to share this kind of knowledge.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    fabricated up...?...hahahah

    by Underoos Hero

    I just sounded sooo tarded....aahha

  • June 18, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    In the first movie

    by bobjustbob

    Why didn't everyone just duct tape cats to themselves. I promise you that in Egypt there a plenty of cats to go around. Otherwise it was silly fun.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    This looks like Cohen is getting back

    by skimn

    at the failed Sinbad project, the one with Keanu and Harryhausen as an advisor, with all the CGI beasties. With this and Center Of Earth, Fraser is having one Velveeta Summer.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    I'm already half way through with the pre production

    by g-ride9000

    for the high 8, kid acted, shot in my backyard version of the darbont script. It will be "An adrenaline filled roller coaster ride you won't want to miss!"

  • June 18, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by Underoos Hero

    FINISHING AUDIO TOUCHES June 17, 2008 9:17 AM Dear Mummy Family-- I'm here at TODD-AO Dubbing Reel 3 (out of seven) up against the time line, as usual. The baby will soon be out for everyone to see on August 1st, but, in order to make that date with the 4,000 plus prints, everything, including the 949 visual effects shots have to be locked by July 3rd. Time is growing short. Dubbing is a fascinating process, a meticulous process by which the sound effects (tens of thousands of them), the music, and the dialog are balanced together to create the sound tapestry of the movie. If it's done well, the mix will deliver the excitement of the effects, clarity to the dialog, and the cohesion of the music--but all these elements have to share a common space in your local theater, even in 5.1 and that's the trick, to choreograph the three elements for maximum effect. Of course, that is a matter of taste. Some directors favor a vivid, almost naked sound effects and dialog approach ("No Country for Old Men"); other like to let the music dominate (like Terry Malick's film "Days of Heaven"). In the first two "Mummy" movies, Stephen Sommers did an excellent dub, balancing everything for maximum effect that made those movies extremely vivid. I want to deliver no less to you. The scoring in London went so well. Randy Spent ten days, two sessions a day, with the 105 piece London Symphony and the music is doing a great job giving the movie bravado, adventure, and thematic beauty. I'm not seeing much of my wife Barbara or my triplets these days as dubbing goes on ten hours a day, visual effects about five hours a day, and color timing another three hours from 10 till 1 A.M. It's a glorious process finishing a film, seeing it all knit together. I have completed 783 visual effects and have 196 to go. It will be a photo finish but I take a lot of pride and satisfaction in the quality and diversity of the effects. You've gotten a taste in the teaser trailer, which brings us to this... The full trailer will be attached to the head of "WANTED" coming out July 27th. But, of course, it will debut here first. I've attached a few photos for your perusal. In six weeks, you will be seeing 24 pictures per second for 1 Hr. 54 Minutes of "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" with all its bells and whistles blazing. Then, I'm going surfing!!!!! Bye, for now... Rob

  • June 18, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    by Underoos Hero

    http://www.robcohenthe scoring.php

  • June 18, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    the first thing said by a Universal executive when Cohen showed

    by DougMcKenzie

    The yetis aren't wearing any pants. True Story.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST


    by BilboRing

    Indiana 4 was a true Indy movie that rocked on every level that Indy should rock on! Action, stunts, the unknown, adventure, intensity, characters, a touch of fun and silliness, etc. All you Indy 4 haters are just dumbasses that no longer understand what an Indy movie is all about. I must admit however that TOD was not very good because of Kate Kapshaw.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST


    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    If there's a God in heaven (which there isn't) they won't film the Darabont script. As much as I disliked the Koepp script, that Darabont script was worse. The snake eating Indy, FOUR waterfalls, the shitty villains that were actually worse than the shitty villains in KotCS, Indy swinging from vines, drunken Indy stealing idols, drunken Indy instantly becoming sober Indy and dialogue known to cause cancer in lab rats.<p>I'm not shy about my dislike for Indy 4. In fact, good luck finding one guy on any TB that will disparage it to the extent I will. But that Darabont script? If I was on the toilet and the only two things within reach were the Darabont script and a sheet of arse would be bleeding from the grain.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv...

    by Merriman Lyon

    Well, I wish I could congratulate you for admitting I was right - but you PAID to see Indy 4 even though it was clear it was going to suck - so I'm afraid you made your bed etc.....In the end the only advice I can give you is: don't go to see the Mutt Williams movies; don't go to see the next Star Wars movies. But you will anyway, won't you?<p>You should check out The Diving Bell and The Butterfly. Totally different genre, I know - but amazing all the same. Think it might have won an Oscar...<p>Alternatively, you could read the Darabont draft of Indy 4. It's far from perfect, I admit, but it definitely looks better than what they ended up shooting.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Not big on Sarcasm are you?

    by Lost Jarv

    And ease of the gloating- I took the chance, paid my money and was massively disappointed. Was it Prequel bad? No. Would I see it again? No. <P>You were right, well fucking done.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I enjoy sarcasm as much as the next guy....

    by Merriman Lyon

    ...and have used it many a time here on AICN to put down Lucas-sheep such as yourself. Ah memories.<p>Now, where were we? Ah yes. Don't get angry at ME just because you lost on your gamble with Indy 4. After all, I was the one telling people NOT to go! If anthing, I'm on YOUR side. As for gloating, I'm afriad it's a HOLLOW victory that gives me little joy. So many people like yourself have PAID Lucas for his latest lazy-ass turkey that the way has been paved for yet more drivel from Lucasfilm. And of course, when other studios see the crap that people are prepared to swallow, they'll shovel out their imitation TRIPE too. And for that, you and your ilk will reward them handsomely, Lost Jarv.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    The Diving Bell

    by Series7

    While good, I didn't think it was anything amazing. It was amazing how you kind of got a glimpse into what its like to be like that. But there were WAY to many slow parts and and not enough explaining. Pretty much half of the movie was the guy in the bed. Good movie and all, but you needed to know more of the story to know what happened. <P> As for Krystal Skull, all I needed was one line saying. "Indie look the skull makes all those around it invincible!" then I can understand how 68 year old John Hurt can survive multiple water fall drops.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST


    by Wee Willie

    You're a real class act there, chief...

  • June 18, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Series7

    Are you mad that you wasted money on Indiana 4.0? Well I told you, you should've seen Speed Racer.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I'm not mad about it.

    by Lost Jarv

    It's my fault. I saw the signs, and naively hoped they were wrong. <P>I'm sick of merriman being smug about it. There is no less attractive phrase in the English Language than "I told you so" and he has been repeating variations of it every day since Skull was released. It's tiresome. <P>And no, I don't regret not seeing SR in the slightest. <P>Stop slagging off the Dread Pirate Roberts, bastards. Elwes will forever be a legend.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    the difference simply is that we have no real way of checking quaity before we go. We have other people's opinions. But that's it. <p>I prefer (with a few exceptions) to reserve judgement until I actually see something. <P>I don't regret spending the money- but I wouldn't see it again. If it had been great I probably would have before it's run finished. <P>So you can smugly proclaim "If you pay for it, you deserve what you get" but there is no way of being 100% certain of what we'll get. Especially with Indy, where the reviews beforehand from critics were mixed.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    You just like them?

    by TheWacoKid

    I thought both of this movies were garbage. If I see it on TV I immediately change the channel. I have no want to see either one ever again, and in fact, I will probably be a better man for it.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    ...what's up with the Cary Elwes hatred? Do you guys just pull random names out of a hat each week?

  • June 18, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    It does strike me as a strange one to hate.

    by Lost Jarv

  • June 18, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    When it looks like shit...

    by Merriman Lyon

    ...when it smells like shit, when it's made of shit, and when the trailer for it is shit...<p> it's because it's shit.<p>No excuses. I told you so. And even if I hadn't, you should have used your intelligence. It was glaringly obvious.<p>I WOULD like to be magnanimous - but now we're going to be getting Mutt Williams I, II, III, IV and V.<p>So fuck it. It's your fault and you've only yourselves to blame.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    on another note....

    by Lost Jarv

    Have you seen Indy 4 merriman? <P>This is a valid question, because the amount of crowing that you are doing suggests that you also saw it. Which makes you WORSE than us. We hoped it would be good, went in expectation of it being good. Got disappointed. You KNEW it would be shit. Paid money, despite KNOWING it would be shit, and are now PLEASED that you spent money on shit. <P>You have a terrible, misreable life don't you?

  • June 18, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    STFU, Merriman.

    by DocPazuzu

    I can't wait for the Duck-Men from Venus.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    I bet you;re a baliff

    by Lost Jarv

    or a traffic warden. <P>Certainly you enjoy misery to an unhealthy level.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    oh shit, I thought it was Duck-Men from Mars

    by just pillow talk

    It'll suck then cause how believable would duck-men be on venus.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    It should be Duck Men from Mars

    by Lost Jarv

    because everybody knows Duck Women are from Venus. <P>Thanks, you've been a lovely audience. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by kungfuhustler84

    Yetis??!!?? Yetis. Yetis. Yetis. Yetis.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I don't understand the people who hated the Indy 4 trailer

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I thought they cut an excellent trailer. It had me excited about the movie right up until the lights went down.<p>Unfortunately the movie didn't deliver.<p>And Cary Elwes needs to be offered better scripts than Saw. I've had a spot in my heart for him since The Princess Bride and Hot Shots.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST


    by kungfuhustler84

    I'm going now. I wasn't gonna, since Jet Li's track record on American films, is 0. Except for Unleashed, though it was technically released in Europe first and made by a French director. Yetis.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Yeti's rock.

    by Lost Jarv

    They aren't in enough movies. But they rock, and could tear a man in 2 just for shits and giggles.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST


    by kungfuhustler84

    How exciting!

  • June 18, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    In all fairness

    by Lost Jarv

    Saw 1 wasn't THAT bad. Well compared to Hostel and its sequels. It still wasn't very good though.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure I'm up for friendly Yetis though.

    by Lost Jarv

    That sounds a bit shit.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    man I fucking hate these sorts of reviews!!

    by BendersShinyAss

    Really, why don't you just recound scene for scene what happens, don't put any effort into it, just relay what you saw and let everyone know exactly what will be happening. <p>damit all

  • June 18, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Hmmm... interesting...

    by Merriman Lyon

    Well, I agree with you, Lost Jarv. After MONTHS of campaigning against the movie; having GIVEN up on it YEARS AGO due to what was being reported; having REFUSED to see the movie - despite the harranging I received from the blindfolded legions on this site, I would indeed be WORSE than the Lucas-sheep who ignored the signs over the last ten years.<p>But, as I've said many times, I stopped giving my money to Lucas after Attack Of The Clones. And yes, I WAS STUPID to pay to see that movie after the evidence of TPM. But in my defence, I DID get out of the loop.<p>But I was saying EXACTLY the same things about Indy 4 BEFORE it came out as I am saying NOW. If anything, I was condemning it in FAR STRONGER terms and in MORE DETAIL BEFORE it came out. I'm actually a good deal quieter now, because there's nothing more I can do. The damage is done, despite my best efforts.<p>I never NEEDED to see this movie to know that it was doomed. Do I really have to go over the years' worth of evidence AGAIN, having already done so umpteen times in the last six months...? Of course, by now I pretty much know most of what went down in the movie, having heard disappointed/enraged fanboys screaming about it on these boards. Plus I've heard the reports from disappointed friends and colleagues. To which I keep saying, "I know, I KNOW!" Of course I know. I knew all along and I told you so. Is there even any doubt?<p>And I'll be back saying the same things when the first Mutt Williams movie comes out. Oh, and by the way, I won't be seeing that one either. Why should I? I can just let mugs like you see it and whine about it afterwards.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Oh God...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I think I found the Valerious cosplay link.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST


    by Grand Moff Toht

    There will only ever be one mummy, and that is Boris Karloff. Sorry. These new, CGI-packed, frenetic spaz-fests get on my nerves. Actually I'm thinking more of Van Helsing. The gothic horror characters dont lend themselves well to this style of filmmaking. But the first Mummy with Fraiser entertained me in a Raiders of the Lost Ark kinda way. At the time I thought it was filling a gap left open by the absence of Indy from the cinemas. Now this year, we get Indy and an imitator. History will judge which is the better sequel...

  • June 18, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    Oh, you SO went and saw KOTCS. Your post reeks of it.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Shanghai 1940s

    by Grand Moff Toht

    Bad choice for setting. China in the '30s might have worked. Not during WWII or Mao. 1930s, warlords, war with Japan hadn't started yet... that's an easier setting for adventurer archeologists to run around in.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST


    by Merriman Lyon

    Ha ha. Nice try.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Actually, Toht...

    by DocPazuzu, pre-Communist China is a great setting.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    Methinkest thou protesteth too mucheth.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    The Grug

    by Ladonite

    Totally late on the reply with this one, but a membership at Dendy will get you a movie ticket for 9.50$ I don't go to Greater Union or Hoyts anymore, they smell and they're sticky. Plus, all the good stuff comes through Dendy anyway...

  • June 18, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    just curious, but

    by chiahead

    does anyone else resent the hell out of the second one for pretty much ruining the final showdown scene in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? I remember thinking "swirling vortex of plantlife... giant ziggarut going down in a whirlpool of foliage... this all looks vaguely familiar to me" I know, I know, Mummy 2 precedes Indy 4. But come ON!!! There's plenty of reasons to dislike Mummy 2. Why not add one more?

  • June 18, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    Actually, that sounds like one more reason to hate Indy 4, not the other way around.

  • June 18, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    All the Mummy movies have been utter shit

    by slone13

    Pull your heads out of your asses.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    What's a "poile"?

    by PwnedByStallone

    Y'all need a new spoiler tag that makes sense for single lines.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST


    by kungfuhustler84

    there's a yeti in the trailer. first time I ever saw it. The trailer that is. Not that exciting, but still okay. Can American filmmakers cast any other Asian actors in roles besides Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh? tony Leung s one of the best actors alive today. I don't know if he speaks English though.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    It's cool to hate Rachel Weisz now

    by MattmanReturns

    Guess I missed that memo too. Here I thought she was a beautiful woman and a great actress. Silly me.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Can someone water that plant?

    by Heckles

    Terrible. Still, the first two Mummy movies weren't total shit. Might see this one.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I couldn't agree more.<p>Rachel Weisz is smokin'. Just watched her in Definitely Maybe and was hoping for another shot of her sweet crack.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I loved Indy 4 except for the monkeys. The fridge was fine

    by Stormwatcher

    It was a total WTF moment and isn't any more unrealistic than every other Indy movie. I hate when people bitch about a sequel and don't realize how much it is like the original.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Welcome to the party, Danny

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Don't neglect the Ong Bak 2 TB. Still going strong.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Too many young adults on this site, not really Indy fans

    by Stormwatcher

    Who either haven't seen an Indy film in years, thus forgetting the cornball nature of the serie. Having seen TOD and LC in theatres as a kid I am very happy with what Spielberg gave us excpet for about maybe 5 minutes of the movie which could be edited out.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Where's Oded Fehr?

    by Kankennon

    It's not like he has anything better to do right now. Get this: I saw The Mummy Returns in the theater THREE TIMES and I'm still alive today to tell the tale. Now Scorpion King on the other hand, I barely survived seeing it once (cerebral dysentery).

  • June 18, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Hahaha I liked the

    by Series7

    Scorpion King. But then again I feel that Dwayne the Rock Johnson is flawless. He's just so damn entertaining.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    I went and watched the Indy movies before I saw 4.0 and I thought it fit in with the series. You just have to account for the fact that the Mummies and Treasures have come out since the last Indy. And Indy 4 had to make up for that.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    If that doesn't...

    by Animus

    ...scream PLANT, then I don't know what will.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST


    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Dannyglovers, just pillow talk and myself had dissected the differences between the practical physics defying effects in Raiders, Doom and Crusade and the CGI physics defying crapfests in Skull to no end in other TBs, notably the one that had to do with fan reaction. There is a huge difference, it has nothing to do with the age of the viewer and anyone who can't see that deserves to declared legally blind.<p>I have a friend who raises guide dogs. Care for his number?

  • June 18, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Whatever happened to

    by Series7

    That Pittfall movie? Eh I guess I should know by now that whenever I hear about Bruce Campbell doing something cool again that its never going to happen. Anyone remember that PS game?

  • June 18, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST


    by toadkillerdog

    That cracked me up! I might have to declare pencil jihad on the people who are staring at me for lauging so hard. Take it easy on ol Stormcatcher - he must have not read those TB's. Still, that was funny shit.

  • June 18, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    I wanna roll my eyes but...

    by Wandering_Prophet

    I can't help but admit that the first two movies were pretty damn fun. In fact I think they were more in the Indiana Jones spirit of adventure then the new Indiana Jones movie itself

  • June 18, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Thanks Danny

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I just didn't have the desire to type out another long explanation of the "hold onto your hat" differences between 1-3 and 4. You summed it up perfectly.

  • June 18, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    I've a soft spot for The 1st Mummy... but...

    by alucardvsdracula

    ... Mummy Returns was painful, so painful it made Indy 4 seen like fuckin Raiders in comparison. The only thing that puts me off this new mummy movie is the lack of a real Evie (Rachel Wheizy why no show bitch?) and that fucking annoying looking 30 year old 'son' of Brendan Fraser. WTF? I'll watch it though, probably on download - good ol Piratebay.

  • June 18, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Mummy movies are a pimple on Indy's ass

    by MattmanReturns

  • June 18, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    How to judge a PLANT's review:

    by emu47

    I've got a new method for judging how good a film is going to be based on a plant's review of it, and it's pretty simple: The more obvious the plant, the worse the movie will be. Therefore, I have concluded that this Mummy flick will be fucking awful.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Brendan Fraser honestly has not aged since Encino Man

    by terry1978

    And I'm not even trying to be facetious, look at the guy from back in the 90s and look at him now. There might be a couple wrinkles, but the dude still looks as he did back in the day. Whatever the fuck he's taking, I want some.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    The Mummy Returns

    by Mattyboy122

    Is hilarious. Hilarious in the same way Batman & Robin, Wild Wild West, and Van Helsing are hilarious. They're all so mind-bogglingly silly that whenever I catch one of them on TV, I almost have to watch. Truly bat-shit insane movies that just explode with ridiculous dialogue, action, special effects, acting, etc, all the while clocking in at around 2 hours. This is in contrast to films like the Pirates sequels, which were also bat-shit insane but took themselves so seriously, were so joyless, plodding and bloated that they just implode. Hence The Mummy Returns, Batman & Robin, Wild Wild West, and Van Helsing are hilarious train wrecks and the Pirates sequels are just bloated, masturbatory compilations of "what the fuck?" moments.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST


    by Mattyboy122

    If anything, he looks like he's getting younger! The first time I saw the trailer for the new Mummy I thought 'what the fuck? He looks younger than he did in Mummy Returns!' Maybe he's a real-life Benjamin Button. Or Walter Jameson. Or he gets a lot of botox. Who knows?

  • June 18, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Mummy movies are a pimple on the Indy 4 pimple

    by MattmanReturns

    of Indy's ass.

  • June 18, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST

    You might like them!?


    But One of the pleasures of the first Mummy was when it ended!

  • June 18, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Isn't a Yeti

    by bobjustbob

    Just a giant gopher-monkey hybrid?

  • June 18, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by brassai2003

    Lets get back on message. Why is AICN posting a questionable "review" when the director is saying the film isn't nayway near finished. This stinks. It's like the "novel" thread. AICN has published my reviews of a few films, so its not sour grapes so to speak. BUt that Mummy "review" is embarassing!

  • June 18, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Mummy 4: Jihad of Warciples

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Starring Kevin Bacon, Bruce Campbell, Michael Gross, Fred Ward, Tony Ja and a legion of other manly men.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST


    by slappy jones

    there is nothing in any of the indiana jones films as stupid as surviving a nuclear bomb blast by hiding in a fridge and being blasted 100 over a hundred feet in the air. There are things far fetched yes...and over the top but the nuke moment was stupid. as was the vine swinging and the monkeys. as was the waterfalls. as was the entire jungle chase. as was mutt. as was marion. as was cate blanchetts lame non threatenbing in anyway villain. as was ray winstine pointless character. as was the flying was john hurt embarrassing performance. as was the complete lack of any tension in any set piece. as the lack of difficulty in acheiving any of the goals they needed to achieve. its the worst film of the year. by a mile.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    remember those pigmy things in Mummy Returns?

    by kungfuhustler84

    yeah, those will be back. And there's also a cameo of Jackie Chan as a computer generated kung fu monkey to capitalize on the Chinese feel of the whole project. Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson will also come back as as a giant fucking spider-scorpion-obvious CGI-man. With a fu-manchu. This is in China after all people.

  • June 18, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I love my PLANT

    by bobjustbob

    I'll think I'll eat a hot dog now. Cheese and Crackers!!!! (BTW, my wife's Aunt called me a cracker the other day.)

  • June 18, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    please mummy movies are crap

    by cheifchirpa3000

    the 1rst one was such a dissapointment, it's bogus watered down, lame, they turned a cool horror movie into a dumb family friendly action comedy, the 2nd one was even lamer with shitty fx and was even more watered down , this one has yeti's but isn't that even uninspired i mean what's gonna be so different from this hairy monster than every other hairy monster, chewbacca, the hoth snow beast, harry and hendersons, king kong etc. all 4 indiana jones movies are far superior to mummy and the especially lame national treasure movies, and if you hate shia in indy 4, the side kick douche in nt movies is far worse.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    The Mummy 3: WE GOT YETIS

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    Shiny happy Yetis.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Messin' with Sasquatch: The Yeti Escapades

    by br1947

    Sasquach vs Yeti in an all out slug fest. They occationally stop fighting just long enough to scare some naked lesbian co-eds on vacation. Box Office Gold.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    The Mummy sucks balls

    by Bass Bastardson

    Seriously. Are you guys all fucking high? The Mummy? You like The Mummy? It was complete crap! "Oh no, fire is raining from the sky, let's all run inside and forget its happening! Whew we're safe! Wait, you say there is some sort of terrible plague infecting everyone in the land? Well then, it's a good thing we're indoors where it can't get us! Oh no it's a swarm of brain eating scarabs! Quick stand on that rock and they'll all go around you!" Fuck The Mummy.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    The "Rock Scorpion" in The Mummy Returns

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    = funniest horrible CGI character EVER.

  • June 18, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST

    It doesn't matter if it's a PLANT.

    by MR. MURDOCH

    This movie has absolutely no "buzz" anyway. Nonexistent on the cultural radar. Looks fun to me, they've got my ticket. First two don't really do anything for me, but I'll see anything with Michelle Yeoh... Universal flipped this with Hellboy 2 in terms of release dates, probably because they ended up spending more $$$$$ on The Mummy, and didn't want it tasered, ass-cracked, and shat upon by THE DARK KNIGHT ONE WEEK LATER. Sucks for Del toro, but he's got The Hobbit, so who cares... I'm literally so surprised we even got a second Hellboy movie...

  • June 18, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Fraser vs. Jet Li

    by andrew coleman

    That shit is going to end badly for Fraser. I'm seeing this because this just feels like a good summer flick.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    It'll be DVD unless we get bored one night

    by Antz

    The DVD is cheaper than me & the Missus going to the movies, and no annoying noisy buggers. There are always the late night screenings when all the obnoxious ones have gone to bed on a school night though I guess.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    PLANT! j/k, sort of...

    by tvspace

    The effects were crappy in the earlier Mummy because the effects were crappy. They stretched the available technology too far. Not to mention the story BLEW! I loved how he skipped right by the absence of Rachel Weisz. Sorry, that's a HUGE issue for me with this film. I'm sure I'll see it because I'm a fan of the first movie, but if the new Indy is any indication of what happens when you try to recapture the past fun, we're all in for a sad journey down memory lane.

  • June 18, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Weisz, Indy 4, um, plant?

    by QuietEnglishGent

    OK so I loved the first Mummy, still not seen the second - something holding me back, too many bad reviews... M3 looks like fun, but it will not make feel like I'm a geeky 13 year old again like Indy 4 did. Ms Weisz is gorgeous and a great actress (see: Constant Gardener) but she made some very silly comments about drink-driving a few years ago that some people including myself can't forget...

  • June 18, 2008, 6:13 p.m. CST

    This'll be fun, Indy IV is another level though

    by barnaby jones

  • June 18, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Mummy Returns may not be better than Indy IV...

    by The Grug

    But the original Mummy film sure as hell is.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST


    by depalma25

    ...I could use a fun adventure film that doesn't seem to be on auto pilot. I wonder of Spielberg was as bored making it as I was watching it. It's a sad day in movie land, when one is in anticipation of a Mummy movie, but Jeez, I got to get the bad taste of KOTCS out of my mouth. And, I still don't completely understand what the damn skulls are? I'm half joking by the way, for those of you just dying to explain it to me, right before calling me an idiot. Anyway, "From the produers of Mummy and Mummy Returns." Hehe, thanks for the heads up. Although I guess it's better than Movie Voice Guy saying, "from the acclaimed director of Skulls, Daylight and Stealth..." And come on let's face it, Weiz's career is going pretty well without spending five months of it making another Mummy movie. Maria Bello is hotter anyway.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

    ...I could use a fun adventure film that doesn't seem to be on a

    by eyegeeateheate

    well keep waiting cause the mummy 3 isn't it either.

  • June 18, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Eyegeeateheate, sadly i know...

    by depalma25

    ...but a guy can dream, can't he?

  • June 18, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Weisz in Constant Gardener = preggers pornlover's dream

    by JackRabbitSlim

    It had to be said.

  • June 18, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST


    by depalma25

    to have the word "dragon" in the title of three of his movies...

  • June 18, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Frodo T. Baggins

    by BadMrWonka

    good to hear someone spitting angry venom for a sweet and talented actress like's always fun to see brain donors like you (here's a hint, it's not spelled "diariah") try to get attention by picking someone unassuming and well-liked, and making up some awkward reason to hate them...<p>wouldn't be an AICN talkback without one asshat like you...

  • June 18, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    to be honest

    by mrevilbreakfast

    I didn't even know they had made another Mummy movie. Well, fuck.

  • June 18, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Entertainment Weekly...

    by wilbur gray

    ran a story on this a few weeks ago saying that Weisz said no to Mummy 3 due to the fact that the son was aged too much to be hers.Fraser countered that the older son gave a better source of conflict,with Alex having to earn the respect of his father.Wonder if Rick constantly calls his son Junior in this,compounding the "originality" of that father/son dynamic.

  • June 18, 2008, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Brendan Frasier is the new Queen of the B's

    by RicardoMontalban

    Jeez how many cheezy movies can this guy make? Hey check out this awesome new movie blog called

  • June 18, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Maria Bello > Rachel Weisz

    by GregoryHarbin

    So stop complaining.<p> The movie may be terrible, but I'll see it. I love this sort of film.

  • June 18, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    My compliments Mr. Wonka

    by shran

    for use of the word asshat. I hate hot chicks and all their stunning beauty.

  • June 19, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    "Some of the logic is tough to understand..."

    by jackofhearts29

    Yeah, that's cause it's CHINESE logic! Chinese MUMMY logic!

  • June 19, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST


    by Motoko Kusanagi

    "Sounds like goofy fun", Planty McPlant? Yeah, right.

  • June 19, 2008, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Crap... In A Different Country

    by brakula

    Another film that you've already seen. Why does this crap keep getting made?

  • June 19, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST

    the movie should be set in the 30s

    by chipps

    then they could bump into indy and get some lessons in coolness.

  • June 19, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    All I know is that when I saw the nuke go off....

    by Han Cholo

    And the fridge somehow wasn't vaporized and spinning at a velocity so fast that it would have killed Dr. Jones in a heartbeat and he was able to bust out of it without the fridge having melted at all, I was like "BULLSHIT!!" <p> On top of that, wouldn't Indy be off the meter chock full of radiation or radiation poisoning? Good movie but I think they went overboard with that bit. Maybe if the fridge didn't spin like a fucking tornado, my suspension of disbelief would have stayed intact for that scene.

  • June 19, 2008, 3:12 a.m. CST

    What I'd love to see ...

    by Spidergreg

    is that guy reviewing a foreign movie. I mean one which is not dubbed but fully subtitled. For example K.B.D reviewing REC: "This movie seem to be about zombies, but I can only guess because all people speak in mexican and the words at the bottom of the screen are moving way too fast for my poor brain to make any sense out of it"

  • June 19, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv


  • June 19, 2008, 6:56 a.m. CST


    by just pillow talk

    Why can't I have both and leave out Fraser?<p>FREE XIPHOS!

  • June 19, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Darabont script is the shit!!!!

    by just pillow talk

    They should have filmed that one instead, but only after filming Duck-men from Mars.

  • June 19, 2008, 7:18 a.m. CST

    "subtitles interpreting...Yeti"

    by GregoryHarbin

    Does anyone know what he means? Since when is 'Yeti' a language?

  • June 19, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Yeti is obviously a language

    by Lost Jarv

    it doesn't make sense to translate English into English. <P>Or maybe it should have been Yetian

  • June 19, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

  • June 19, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    possibly, or Yetese.

    by Lost Jarv

  • June 19, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Good day, CoC

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    So the AFI just released their top ten movies in each genre and the lists, mostly, are shameful. Some glaring snubs to be sure.<p>Not a single FLAMING LEG KICK to be seen anywhere.

  • June 19, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

  • June 19, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    You're right

    by Lost Jarv

    Those lists ARE pathetic. <P>The Western one is especially bad.

  • June 19, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    I know one thing about those lists...

    by just pillow talk

    The Yeti are not pleased. Not pleased at all.

  • June 19, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    That's funny

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Of all the lists, I was thinking that the western one was particularly rancid.<p>The Sports and Animation lists are crap, too.

  • June 19, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Gangster one is probably the best, albeit most

    by Lost Jarv

    predictable. <P>And how on earth did not one Leone film get in but cat fucking ballou and the unholy shitreel of Shane both did? <P>Not to mention that only a complete fucking retard would think Sleepless in Seattle is better than Some Like It Hot.

  • June 19, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    I haven't seen it in a long time...

    by just pillow talk

    But I remember really liking Eight Men Out. <p>And Sleepless in Seattle is crap. Hell, The Shop Around the Corner which we just saw is a lot better than that.

  • June 19, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Even Major League is better than Jerry Maguire

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Some Like It Hot is a glaring omission. Good call.<p>And the genre choices are laughable. Courtroom Drama? Ummm, how about just Drama? And Romantic Comedy? Just call it Comedy, folks.<p>I mean, those wanker genre categories don't allow the inclusion of Dr. Strangelove and that's criminal.

  • June 19, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Clockwork Orange is NOT sci-fi

    by Lost Jarv

    This pisses me off. It's the lazy critics way of classifying a masterpiece that doesn't particularly conform to genre.

  • June 19, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    LOL! Danny

    by Lost Jarv

    I thought she spoke porcine. Or alternatively, troll.

  • June 19, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    she would break your dick

    by just pillow talk

    You would be Yeti-ized.

  • June 19, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    If Yids speak Yiddish...

    by jackofhearts29

    Then Yetis must speak Yetish, right?

  • June 19, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    hit Queen Latifah?

    by Lost Jarv

    I'd rather fuck Lorena Bobbit and then beat her.

  • June 19, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Yes, but the Chinese Speak Chinese

    by Lost Jarv

    and isn't it set in China?

  • June 19, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    If it's even an ounce better than Indy...

    by ScottinDC

    then it will successfully remove the rancid taint flavor of that steaming pile of shit Indy movie from my mouth. What a suckfest...I still blame Harry for tricking us into seeing it (damn you HeadGeek!). This new Mummy movie does look like a fun guilty pleasure...reasonable trailer - decent effects. I dont know about Maria Bello playing Eve but the rest works.

  • June 19, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST


    by WickedChicken37

    Does someone who knows the secret to immortality die?