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Ridley Scott may direct Silence of the Lambs sequel, HANNIBAL!!!!
Man.... If this don't get your juices flowing... I'm sorry. I hope and pray everything goes SMOOTHLY on this film. Oh... I just realized that I haven't talked about it yet.
Ahem... According to Variety's Report on HANNIBAL, the sequel to SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, Ridley Scott is in negotiations to be the director of this highly anticipated film.
Personally, I'm dying to see GLADIATORS, the film Ridley is finishing now, and I hope it's a return to super form for Scott. Meanwhile..
Rumormills around the universe are fingering Jake Scott as a possible director for SPIDER-MAN. Hmmm... I don't know. Personally I'd want a more established director on that film, but one never knows. Right?
Personally, I'm dying to see GLADIATORS, the film Ridley is finishing now, and I hope it's a return to super form for Scott. Meanwhile..
Rumormills around the universe are fingering Jake Scott as a possible director for SPIDER-MAN. Hmmm... I don't know. Personally I'd want a more established director on that film, but one never knows. Right?
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I don't know any of the story behind this... well... story, so I am not sure if this is going to be a true sequel, also dealing with the other characters from Silence of the Lambs and including story aspects that relate to that book/film. If not then it would actually be the third book/film in the series, because Manhunter (film) and Red Dragon (book title) also had the character of Hannible Lector. I'm sure, though, that this story will deal with Hannible being on the lose after his escape, so it will really be a sequel to SotL. Ridley Scott? Cool! I just hope that isn't the final title because it just sounds like a musical to me. Hannible! the Tony Award winning Broadway sensation! Now on a nation wide tour!
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Jesus! Ridley Scott? This fucking moron. What has he directed in the last few years that was awesome? GI JANE? 1492? Yeah, he did BLADE RUNNER and the first ALIEN film (though ALIEMS was far superior in every way, thank you very much Mr. James "Egomaniac" Cameron!!!). If Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins have any integrity left (and judging from the trailers for INSTINCT and ANNA AND THE KING, they don't!) they will do the smart thing and get the fuck away from this project. Personally, I think that no sequel should be made. But, then again, I have a brain in my head. Oh well...
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Jesus! Ridley Scott? This fucking moron. What has he directed in the last few years that was awesome? GI JANE? 1492? Yeah, he did BLADE RUNNER and the first ALIEN film (though ALIEMS was far superior in every way, thank you very much Mr. James "Egomaniac" Cameron!!!). If Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins have any integrity left (and judging from the trailers for INSTINCT and ANNA AND THE KING, they don't!) they will do the smart thing and get the fuck away from this project. Personally, I think that no sequel should be made. But, then again, I have a brain in my head. Oh well...
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ive marked your words! your tremendously important and informed opinion will remain with me until...until i hit the post button.
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maybe mr. " i have a brain in my head " should wait until Ridley Scott actually makes the movie & then watch it before he trashes it. until then, how about putting that "brain" to work on spelling?
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personally, i'd much prefer to see him do 'I Am Legend' with Harrision Ford rather than this, that script(and the novel) had his name written all over it....
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Jun 03, 1999 5:23:44 AM CDT
Scott is a very good director...you just can't hit all your targ
by gsolo
A few things...How come Demme is not attached? I think Alien is by far the best Alien and I think Cameron turned it into a silly no brainer. I like Aliens but Scotts environment and performances make the King Of The World look pretty mediocre to me. I would love to see Scott reimerge into what he's best known for...solid films. I guess Gladiator will let us know. I also don't think it should be called Hannibal. I like Raiders Of The Lost Ark better than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Don't worry Hollywood, we know it's the sequel to Silence Of The Lambs...trust us.
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According to a post from Variety, "director Jonathan Demme bowed out a few weeks ago. It's understood that Demme felt the material was too violent and wanted to make changes, which author Thomas Harris would not allow."
If they change the name, that's fine with me, but the novel, which has already pre-sold about a million copies, is called "Hannibal" and I think that messing with that kind of name recognition is not something the studio will want to do. I also believe that the key is going to be who adapts this thing -- it would be great if they would get Ted Tally to do it again, or if Harris would adapt it himself. Ridley Scott could be hit or miss, but it will at least be interesting either way -- and better him than Tony Scott.
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The story is supposed to be about an ex-patient of Lecter's who'se out on revenge and tries to get it by using your favourite G-woman Clarice Starling as bate.
To Wittman: I do not agree, Alien I was far superior to Alien II, since you hadn't seen the creature before, the suspense was much bigger and Giger's set and creature designs were awesome. When I was in the cinema at the time at 15 years old, the suspense was to many people so unbearable, they started giggling just to kill it. Never seen a movie do that since. Alien II had to make good on the lack of surprise and worse script by pumping in more action and sending in the marines. It was okay and I enjoyed it but a far cry from Alien I and as most people will agree, after that it just got worse and worse (ah hell, Fincher I can forgive since the movies he's made since being Seven and The Game and the soon to come out The Fight Club) -
Can't wait for this movie man, can anyone verify if the script is crap or not? Is a release date even remotely close? Will it be on par with epics like Ben Hur? I'll see anything that Russel Crowe stars in, and Jaquin (typo?) Phoenix keeps getting better with each impending role. I honestly don't feel that psyched about the Hannibal project, mainly because I don't think they could capture the same magic as Silence, regardless of the talent involved. Need confirmation about Gladiator!!!! Is it going to be as cool as Lord of the Rings?
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Jun 03, 1999 6:38:34 AM CDT
How many directors make a return to form after 10-15 years of me
by bundren
Unlike many posters on this site, I'm not posing this question in a smart-ass, I-know-everything manner. I'm just wondering. None seem to be coming to mind right now, though I could be forgetting a number of exceptions. Anybody have any examples of this? I just finished reading Easy Riders, Raging Bulls, and the track record with people like Friedkin, Coppola, etc. in the Seventies doesn't bode well. I certainly hope all these directors do manage to return to their former greatness, but the odds seem stacked against them.
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First off, I'd like to know exactly how true this info is, but if there is any truth to it, then I don't think the jproject will skip a beat. Ridley Scott is a fantastic director. I was never one (and still not) to put him up in the ranks of Kubrick, Spielberg, and Stone, but, as a filmmaker, he's as solid as they come. Don't get me wrong, there's no one I'd rather see helm HANNIBAL than Demme. His style has the feel for what these movies are all about. But Scott excells (especially with his camera-work) with these kind of dark settings (the camera-work of ALIEN being a great example of this). However, Scott's son doing SPIDERMAN is another story. I'm sure skill runs in the family, but come on now! This is like choosing ME to start at quarterback in the Superbowl (well, maybe not to that extreme, but you get my drift). The ONLY thing that can save this "certain-to-be-doomed" project is the helming of an accomplished director (What happened to Ron Howard?). Anyway, I'll sleep well knowing my most anticipated films to see in the next three years or so (so far) will be X-MEN, EPISODE II, and HANNIBAL.
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or something else.Maybe a return to sci-fi.
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Anyone who claims that Ridley Scott hasn't made a good movie in over a decade is probably forgetting a wonderful film that came out in 1991 called Thelma and Louise. I may be in the minority, but I have seriously been in love with T&L since the first time that I saw it. I'm sure a great deal of the movie's appeal is from Callie Khouri's fantastic screenplay, but I'm sure that Ridley Scott was an important part of the collaborative effort. In my opinion, Ridley Scott has made three great films: ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, and T&L. And even when he doesn't hit greatness, he is at least very very watchable. All in all, one of the top 10 directors still working IMHO.
Just my $.02
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Ridley Scott is great news now that Demme has bowed out, but what's this nonsense I hear about Dino wanting to write Foster out of the project altogether because she's too expensive? Please tell me this is pure Barbara Streisand and not the truth.
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Let's not get carried away with this report.. yet.
After all, how many times have reports of "talks with [fill in the blank] to direct" have turned out to end in nothing?
My grain of sand: Although Scott has more than enough visual flair to handle any kind of film, I've found his story/emotion skills not to be at that same superb level. Mind you, I'm not saying he can -
Hey, Mr. I have a brain, what about Godfather 2, perhaps the best American movie ever made. But what do I know I, apparently, don't have a brain. Can anyone point me to Oz so the wizard can give me one?
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I've noticed a propensity for people to feel that either Alien of Aliens was the best in the series. I feel this is a mistaken approach to take. Alien was a wonderful suspense movie (much along the lines of Hitchcocks "10 Little Indians"), where Aliens was a out and out action film. Two different genres and therefore very difficult to actually compare. Also I'd read that the working title for the new book was actually "The Morbidity of the Soul" a much cooler title, but, alas, one with very little connection to the origional for the masses to latch on to.
To those of you lobbying for Mr. Scott to film "I Am Legend" kudos! This would be a brilliant paring. Perhaps replace Harrison Ford with Ed Norton or Russel Crowe and this movie would be incredible (no offense to Harrison Ford fans, I'm just a bit tired of seeing his name attached to so many projects).
At any rate, looking forward to "Gladiator" and I'm sure he's more than up to talking the inner psychosis of our favorite gormet.
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With regard to Harry's Spiderman snippit on the end of this story, anyone who is interested in Jake Scott should check out 'Plunkett and MacLane' (sp?) a period 'highwayman thief' picture that features a lot of flashy lighting and house music. Stars Robert Carlisle and Johnny Lee Miller (both from Trainspotting, of course) and Liv Tyler. Released in the UK last winter, in the USA this Summer (I believe). I thought that while it had good bits, it was on the whole very flashy and a little hollow, ie felt more like he was following in the footsteps of his Uncle Tony Scott. It did however have some cool comic campery with an outragously effeminate Alan Cumming (The Russian nerd bloke from Goldeneye), plus a really tense/cool 'execution-by-hanging' scene near the end (will he get rescued or not, that sort of thing). Overall a failure, but with some redeeming features and moderately entertaining. For a more positive review, go to the BBC's Film99 website and look at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/film99/plunkett.shtml
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You want the Wizard of Oz to "give you one"? Oooerrrr!!! Heh heh heh... :)
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Silence of the Lambs is almost a note-perfect work of art, so following it up will be a diffcult feat. But Ridley Scott is NOT the right man to do it. He does great visuals, but is not much of an actor's director, and has no subtlety, which is what Lambs had and what Hannibal really needs to even come close to the first film. I would just hate to see it become a stylistic, empty movie.
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Ok I have read these posts and am wondering of any of you people are even old enough to remember Legend an excellent example of a Ridley Scott film.
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Jun 03, 1999 9:06:43 AM CDT
Anyone know anything 'bout the "Hannibal" storyline? Also: Did D
by alexandra dupont
Lads, lads: Let's get excited about the BOOK before we drive ourselves all daffy over the MOVIE, shall we? Thomas Harris is an astonishing writer, and "Hannibal" the novel will be intriguing regardless of whatever past-his-prime, visuals-over-substance director they choose to adapt it. (I'm sorry, but other than "Blade Runner," "The Duelists," and MAYBE "Thelma and Louise," what has this man directed that is truly inspiring? "White Squall"? "Someone to Watch Over Me"? Good Lord-- "1492"?) Anyway, two things: (1) Anyone know of a good fan site out there with decent advance info on the "Hannibal" book -- perhaps even an excerpt? I know I'm being a bit spoiler-happy, as the book comes out next Tuesday, but still.... (2) There's an alternative view as to why Demme passed on the project, and it has something to do with the fact that DeLaurentis is rumored to be making some damned iffy choices -- e.g., dumping Jodie Foster, whom he refers to as "Judi." Want to read another point of view on this tragic mess? Go to http://www.salon.com/media/log/1999/06/03/demme/index.html
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.... Of course, I forgot to mention "Alien," that 20-year-old sci-fi classic, as one of Mr. Scott's quite decent works. But then again, I also forgot to mention "G.I. Jane."
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Come on, Alexander, who directed the first Aliens? -
I may be alone in this sentiment, but... THANK GOD JONATHAN DEMME IS OFF THIS PROJECT! You people who think Ridley Scott is overrated or past his prime... Chris, Ridley is Kurosawa next to Demme. Jonathan Demme is the SINGLE most overrated director in Hollywood, even more so than Ollie Stone. Let's look at his 'best' films, shall we? Silence: Jonathan rides two jaw-droppingly brilliant performances to the podium, even though he didn't do much other than stay the hell out of Jodi and Anthony's way. Look at how over-the-top Buffalo Bill was if you doubt me. Philadelphia: An atrociously bad directing job. The film rode a wave of political correctness and Hollywood guilt to the top, but Demme's direction is genuinely painful and ham-fisted. The scene where Hanks collapses in court is a noteworthy example of how AMATEURISH Demme's decisions are. Beloved: OK, the book was unfilmable, granted. But dear Goddess, did it have to be that bad? Oprah got no help even though she desperately needed it, Danny Glover wandered around looking lost, and Thandie Newton seemed to stumble into her few moments of near-brilliance by accident. Before Silence, Demme was an adequate Hollywood hack, with a few decent films under his belt- Something Wild, for instance, or even a quirky little thing like Melvin and Howard. But after Silence, Demme thought he was an ARTIST- and he has been awful ever since. Demme should drop the big event pictures and go back to what he does best- mediocre mafia comedies.
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...you may as well kiss a good film goodbye. Especially if they're looking for a screenwriter and not bringing Ted Tally back. If Foster & Hopkins were smart, they'd back out, which I predict they will. To have anything close to a decent sequel, you've got to get everyone come back, IMHO.
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What's all this crap about slamming Ridley Scott for his movies over the past 20 years? It seems that whenever a director makes a few films which fans consider epic (as do I) if nothing else lives up to them....people feel the need to ignore that work. I think you have to realize that many directors don't like to stick to certain genres. When Scott made Alien the last thing he wanted to do next was BladeRunner. Read the Making Of book, "Future Noir" and you'll see what I mean. Yet he made it anyway and sure enough, it rocked. Now many may say that it is because Scott is only good at dark Sci-Fi and that he should stick to that form from now on, but I don't agree. Sure, I would loved to have seen him do "I Am Legend" but I respect his choices because I am able to see his style in all his films. Look at the lighting and camera technique in both "Black Rain" and "Someone to Watch Over Me." It mirrors BladeRunner and Alien tremendously. Or the moving beauty of nature in "1492" and "White Squall." Or his hidden obsession with feminism and dominate female characters in "Alien," "Thelma and Louise" and "GI Jane." I think Scott knows exactly what he's doing and I'm sure "Gladiators" will touch upon the feel of his first film "The Duelists." Now before I get slammed by people who feel many of these films should not even appear in the same sentence, why don't you all actually go take a look at these films. You'll be suprised to find that all of them are very good. Except for 1492....it sort of bored me. Scott is, and always was, an auteur. He started his career in art and advertising. Therefore, he knows how to be subliminal. You have to LOOK for many of the clues that he leaves you in his films. Each one can be studied and something fascinating will be found. Just give it some time.
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Give Scott a good script, and we'll have a great movie to see. If either Hopkins or Foster don't sign on, do not make the flic, simple as that. (Right, it doesn't matter who directs, or is in it, the film will bring in serious dough) What's Demme's deal, after Beloved you'd think he'd jump all over this. Too violent?! Why, I ask anyone who might have an answer, why do good filmmakers soften, go weak, lose their edge and want to make fluff?
BELOVED was very violent and dark, how can he think the new "LAMBS" is too violent? Screw him, Scott will pull through. It all rides on the script and the original cast. -
Think about it. Manhunter was dang good, and wouldn't Hannibal be terrific if it used the music from Manhunter. "Heartbeat! Heartbeat! Listen to my heartbeat!" (not to be confused with the Don Johnson hit of the same year "Heartbeat, I'm lookin for a heartbeat.") Hell yeah. Silence of the Lambs was great and all, but it didn't have any Don Johnson-like synth-pop ballads. Hell yeah!
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Oh boy, we're talking about a sequel to my second-favorite film of all time. Ridley Scott--if he gets the project, I wish him well. I surely loved "Thelma & Louise," "Alien," and "Blade Runner," and I'm proud to have worked on "G.I. Jane." If he doesn't, someone please get David Fincher. Or Michael Mann, if Fincher isn't available. I'm scarfing up my copy of the book come Tuesday, next, and if Will Graham's back in the story, I say get William Pedersen back.
By the way, a superb site for "The Silence of the Lambs" fans to visit is http://complit.rutgers.edu/mwatts/ silence.html
This site approaches the novel as a major work of literature--which, in my humble opinion as an English lit major, it is. As a film lover and industry professional, I think the film is a damn masterpiece. No hack directors allowed! -
I think Ridley Scott is in the same boat with John Carpenter and George Romero. All of them have made movies I truly love (Carpenter: Halloween, Big Trouble in Little China, The Thing Romero: Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead Scott: Alien, Blade Runner) but have also made a ton of movies you can wipe your ass with (Memoirs of an Invisible Man, 'nuff said). Even though all of their careers have been spotty at best, because of the good films they have made, people think of them as these wonderful auteurs. I don't get it.
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Damn, you made me shoot water out my nose! That hurts like hell! Of course I only find it funny because I don't have a brain!
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Ridley Scott is a great director, don't get me wrong, but Jonathan Demme must direct this film or it shouldn't be made. Too violent? What was the first, a damn Disney cartoon? Demme must just be holding out for a huge payday. The only person in my mind who could direct the sequel on as good as Demme is David Fincher, but he's too creative to do another movie like Seven. By the way, can anyone tell me anything about Fincher's most likely next project, The Black Dahlia or something.
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Jun 03, 1999 4:16:04 PM CDT
New directors revitalize sequels!; "Hannibal" a bad investment?
by mrniceguy
While this isn't a particularly envelope-pushing opinion, I'm rather pleased that Demme isn't directing. It seems to me that where there is the possibility of creative stagnation in a series of films, a new director can infuse a series with new energy. There isn't much history to support this viewpoint (at least, not that I can come up with off the top of my head) -- I suppose I'm thinking primarily of James Cameron's "Aliens". Regardless, I think Scott would be a great director for the new film, though I'd rather see him do "I Am Legend". As others have said, I think the ideal choice would be David Fincher. Demme's made one great film and two good films in the 90s, but I don't think he has much new to offer the Lecter trilogy. I also hear that Demme's pretty expensive -- I'm sure Scott or Fincher would come cheaper. And if there's talk among Universal execs about not making "Hannibal" at all, they're probably wise in this instance. This would be a damn expensive movie. Once you sort out all the producer/director/actor salaries, you're probably looking at a movie that will cost over $100 million! (If "Meet Joe Black" cost over $80 million with lower acting salaries, a cheaper director in Brest, and no cash-sucking producer, "Hannibal" will be easily $100 million.) "Silence" grossed $130 million domestically. Sequels usually gross less. I think that given all the recognition the first one got, this one will be hard pressed to be it, so figure on lesser box office. It's very likely that "Hannibal" isn't a smart investment for a studio like Universal, what with all the losses there of late, and the subsequently "conservative" approach to green-lighting new projects. Maybe the success of "The Mummy" and "Notting Hill" will make them more aggressive. I sure hope it will -- I want to see this film as badly as the rest of you.
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The one that did the Road Warrior movies. Actually his best work probably was in Twilight Zone The Movie.
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Jun 03, 1999 6:28:17 PM CDT
You're all missing the point! (Well, maybe not you over there)
by darth_palpatine
Here's the deal... Demme wants to do this movie. My guess is that he wants it badly. But, this horrible hack of a producer, Dino DeLaurentiis, has rights to the film. He bought these rights when making Red Dragon (Manhunter, whatever). He didn't think SOTL would make him any money, so he waived his rights and let Orion pics do a one-time deal. He retained the rights for future movies.
Now this second-rate SOB is trying to control every aspect of the movie, pulling stunts like trying to write out the Jodie Foster/Starling role, and not wanting to pay for Ted Tally to write the movie. He is exerting so much influence over the movie, Demme KNOWS it will be a stinking pile of crap. So, instead of being made to look like a fool by the press (for pulling out of the film for not having control), he is bowing out gracefully, saying it's too violent. The truth is, you could get Scott, Singer, Tarantino, or Harry Knowles himself to make this movie, but with the influence of DeLaurentiis behind it, it's gonna suck.
Seriously, take a minute, and look at the article on the Salon website.
http://www.salon.com/media/log/1999/06/03/demme/index.html
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Jun 03, 1999 8:31:48 PM CDT
Ridely Scott directing SGT.ROCK and I AM LEGEND with Schwarzeneg
by abking
Harry or anyone, wasn't Ridely Scott going to helm SGT.ROCK with Schwarzenegger once? I hope he and Arnie team up for I AM LEGEND and SGT.ROCK. Though John McTiernan would be the best choice for the latter.
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I just finished the book a few hours ago(We got our copies in a few days ago), it goes onsale on Tuesday. This book is a sick
mind@*!@! Frankly, without major revisions,(removing or streamling a 100+ page sequence that takes place in Florence, drastically revising the ending, for starters)this book will never make it to the screen. While intersting, the book is disturbing, the writing is choppy and odd in many places, and after hanging around these characters for a few days, I feel like I have to skin myself to remove their stench from me. They are that amoral and unpleasant to be around. I am very interested in reading the mainstream reviews for this book and am interested in seeing how they will handle the screen adaptation. -
It's typical. Every time we get some good news, somebody let's there self serving pessimism get in the way and say 'This is going to suck.' While it's true that Ridley Scott has made some bad films, it's important to remember that he doesn't write his scripts. When a good script is put in his hands, he always does well with it. And even his bad films still look good. His stark sensibility would be perfect for a silence sequel, It's a pity that Jonathan Demme won't direct, although he hasn't made a good film since Silence. Let us remember that Thomas Harris has spent over TEN YEARS working on this sequel. If Ted Tally, returns to write the script, I think we're pretty much guaranteed a winner.
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Many people have stated that Alien and Aliens are great films. Two films in the same franchise, directed by different people. Much like Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. If Ridley Scott does direct "Hannibal" it will be different from "Silence of the Lambs." Director's have different styles. It will look different, unless Ridley uses Tak Fujimura as DP. I have faith in Ridley Scott. The man has talent. I really can't be too excited or hesitant until I see some footage. He may be off his game or he may kick out asses. We'll see.
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The Arnold Sgt. Rock project has been kicking around Hollywood for about 10 years. I'd be very surprised if it ever got made.
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With the big business that SAVING PRIVATE RYAN is doing domestic, worldwide and on video, Schwarzenegger, John McTiernan and Joel Silver could still make this kick ass war film. Do you know Silvers email or company address?
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