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Sam Raimi Picks A Showrunner For WIZARD’S FIRST RULE!!
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Writer-producer Kenneth Biller – whose resume includes stints on “The X-Files,” “Star Trek: Voyager” and “Smallville” – has been named showrunner on Sam Raimi’s coming syndicated series “Wizard’s First Rule,” based on the Terry Goodkind book.
The Hollywood Reporter describes the project:
"Wizard's" stars Craig Horner as woodsman Richard Cypher, who transforms into a magical leader and joins with a mysterious woman named Kahlan (Bridget Regan) to stop a bloodthirsty, sinister tyrant. The series has been cleared in more than 95% of the country for its fall launch. Twenty-two episodes will be produced for the 2008-09 season.
Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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the source material is pretty shitty. and it's syndicated. PASS.
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Or any of the other syndicated stuff Raimi was involved with in the late 90's?
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...the first three books anyways. And this is the first one, so great! As for Hercules and Xena, it'll be at least a little different, as this has a continuous storyline to follow.
...so what the heck is a showrunner? -
Standard sword and sorcery fare, with one new element in it... the maps and the coloured powder. I hadn't seen that anywhere else before.
But pretty much every thing else in the novel was familiar to any fantasy reader. -
These books were as about as bargain-basement fantasy as you could get. The fantasy world was generic with no original elements -- every part of it was borrowed from better fantasy works. And the author has an unhealthy obsession with rape. It is so sad because there are far more deserving fantasy series out there, one of which is Leiber's Fafred and the Grey Mouser.
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It doesnt just suck it blows ass too. Not as badly as Song of Fire and Ice though. Why does all the shitty fantasy get miniseries and the decent stuff get jack?
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is the shit! Put down the crack pipe and read more than the first page!
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Seriously this book was so pedestrian, so ordinary, that I fail to see why it was greenlighted. A waste of my precious book reading time. EragonLOL.
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Some idiot should pick up some of S Donaldson's work. Covenant will never be made due to the ring connection, but 'A Man Rides Through' was very original and quite entertaining.
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Bullshit books. Can't believe crap like this gets made. Can't believe Raimi has fallen this far.
Del Toro has mentioned that he wanted to do Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser. Let's wait for that and leave Raimi the fuck out of it. -
They should at least do a Tad Williams series (since HBO is doing Ice and Fire). He's kinda hit-or-miss sometimes, but he could take a dump on blank paper and end up with a better plot and characters than that Goodkind hack.
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An HBO series of Eye of the World would be amazing if it was done justice by tv hacks.
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Hands down the best of the genre thus far. Kick it into gear HBO! Actually HBO will watch and study Wizard's First Rule's production and learn from the mistakes they make. This will make A Song of Ice and Fire that much more successful.
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Love those books. But it would be really hard to get it right - there's just so much material.
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Well, I like all the books so far. I just started reading them about 2-3 weeks before AICN announced that Raimi was going to produce them. I hope the series does well. Although I liked David Gemmell's books more, I'm hooked on the Sword of Truth series.
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not the travesty with Tim curry, Gemmell first novel about Druss the Legend.
Connery out of retirement to play the Captain of the Axe -
Seriously - I've read just about every Fantasy series out there since Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings, and this is by far the most insipid, ridiculous, stupid, assinine, sloppy, derivative, retarded book I've ever read. I trudged through 2 of these books based on all the positive reviews before throwing my hands up in disgust. George RR Martin and Steven Erikson wouldn't wipe their ass with Terry Goodkind's homoriffic ponytail. Robert Jordan may have grown bloated in his later years, but the lint from under his ballsack has more writing talent than Goodkind. If anyone even thinks of watching this show, they should be shorn and left to rot in shame.
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What can I say other than you are 100% right.
Picked up the first couple of books and thought it had been written by a simple-minded 12 year old until the singularly nasty rape and torture cut in.
Shockingly Bad. Oh and I hope that somebody picking up George R R Martins series will encourage the begger to bloody finish this excellent series sometime soon. -
You want some good reading that should be a movie/ mini-series. Pick up the Black Company books by Glen Cook. anyone else read these?
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is great. I remember reading somewhere that Erikson of the Malazan series was a big fan.
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do it.do it.
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Nothing against Goodkind, but he is mediocre at best as a writer. I smell disaster all over this project.
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You can shoot it for a Xena budget. That's the only reason I can see Rami touching this one. Pretentious and infantile at the same time . . . like trying to write a thousand page philosophical treatise about the merits of a $3 pony ride.
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By producing Ice and Fire.
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While I loved the books, it has to be the most talky and intricate fantasy out there. Too difficult for a TV series (and you know HBO will bag it long before its finished). Plus, at the pace Martin writes, he will likely die before its finished. Sadly, it happened to Jordan and he was far younger and looked healthier then Martin. If you check out Martin's blog, he is always complaining about how sick he is, this flu, that flu... He seems to like the geek conventions more than writing as well as he is always traveling.I don't have a lot of faith it will be done. At least Goodkind kept his ass in shape and finished his books. I thought the series drug on a bit, but it definitely wasn't as bad as some of you make it seem. You just didn't like his objectivist rants. So he sleeps with Ayn Rand (in his dreams)? I liked the story overall... I wish the TV series wasn't sounding like Hercules and Zena though--the source material is much harder than that.
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... is a bad idea. Just really wouldn't work. Not enough fantasy elements to satisfy mainstream audiences, and the series is starting to get ponderous. As much as I like Martin, I'm getting put off by 900-page novels that only advance the overall plot by a hair. The guy needs to really get to the point. And yes, I too think Martin will die before he completes the series. He ain't getting any younger.
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wasted a week of my life
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... no one really cares about this series being made, which tells you something.
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Was the grittier take on some of the magic, and Richard's transformation into a magic usin' mofo with balls after his ordeal in captivity. By the way, are they going to keep the ten chapters of hardcore sadomasochism?
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Read the first book. It was kind of awesome. I liked how it was divided into sections devoted to their taking out one good guy hero at a time.
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...you know...to stay in sync with the books?
The material is "MEH" indeed. Not to spoil it or anything but...LUKE, I AM YOUR FATHER. Ahem. -
Song of Ice and Fire. Not Fire and Ice. Fire and Ice was a cheesy rotscoped 80s animated flick.
I disagree on Song of Ice and Fire. I think it's quite good for the most part. It's nice to see a medival setting that's not all fucking unicorns and puppys dogs with happy peasants and altruistic lords and other BS like that. It sucked to be a pesant and those books got it right.
And for folks who think the author is a hack, should read his collected shorts in "Dreamsongs" which are pretty enlightneing. He does bettter hard SF than fantasy. -
...I agree that Martin is probably gonna keel over before he finishes. He's a huge nerd literally and figurativly. He's a total CON geek and still hits many of them. He's a great guy, and a talented writer and hard wokring when he stays on-mission, but he's never goona finish if he doesn't buckle down and deliver before a pizza induced fatality takes him down.
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Jun 17, 2008 9:33:23 PM CDT
cant we get an Elric movie or good version of Nine Princes in Am
by groothewarrior
other good fantasy material would be Le Morte D'Arthur, Raymond E. Feists Krondor novels and John Normans Gor series IMO
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"Pizza induced fatality"... Love it. I concur that Martin's a fantastic writer,one of the best, but you and I are on the same page. He needs to just buckle down and get it done. Sometimes I wonder though if all the procrasitnating is due to he just doesn't know where he wants to take the thing.... Writers block perhaps?
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OK, mention of Song of Ice & Fire? Yep, Check. Mention of rape? Uhhh, yes. Check. Mention of Hercules & Xena-like production value. Check. So this talkback is as boring and useless as the last one.
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HBO and the BBC just agreed to team up to do Song of Ice and Fire. It's not officially greenlit yet, but it seems to be getting closer.
As for the health angle, Goodkind had major heart surgery whilst working on his books, so his health certainly wasn't fantastic (he has since recovered fully though). And Robert Jordan was the same age as GRRM, not 'much younger'.
I loathed the books but I'll watch the TV series if the Evil Chicken is in it. That shit is solid comedy gold. "In that instance Kahlan knew that the chicken wasn't just a chicken, it was evil incarnate." -
I've never read these books (fantasy fan, but didn't run into these), so please tell me that chicken line was actually in the book. That's the best/worst thing I've ever read.
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Can't say that its absolutely true because I gave up on these books long ago but the evil chicken does seem to have become a legend in its own lifetime.
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Thanks for contributing to our boring and useless thread.
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These books are really incredible. they have Sisters of Light and Dark, Zedd Wizard of the First Order, the Seeker and the Sword of Truth, Darken Rahl, Jagang the Dreamwalker, Drefan, the Mud People , Shota the Witch Woman, Quads, Conjured Spells, Nathan the Prophet, Nicci aka Death's Mistress, Oba, Nicholas the Slide, Brother Narev.. the events in this book are fueled by acts of Mass murder, conquest, rape and banishment. this has the potential to be absolutely breathtaking.
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Let's have someone do Moorcock's antihero Elric - a drug addicted albino with emo tendencies, and a sword that drinks blood. I'm there already. Instead we get crap like this...
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I am not worried about the finish of this series. He had said countless times that this last book was an incredible bear to write. Considering that the middle act of any story is where one gets bogged down, he should start to pick up the pace and begin resolving his plots. Act III is usually a rollercoaster ride to write, and these are by far his biggest moneymaker. I expect the last two books to come out in 2011 and 2012. That gives him four more years. . . he can totally make it!
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I am, for the most part, a fan of Goodkind's work. There is a lot, and I mean A LOT of filler, whole books of it in fact, but there was enough to keep my interest. Since the TV series is going to be based on the first book alone, there isn't a lot of the rape and torture you see in the later books when the Imperial Order show up. I am interest in seeing how they handle Richard's capture and torture at the hands of Denna, the Mord Sith, and when Nass is forced to cut his own ballsack off and eat it. Somehow I don't think those scenes will appear in Raimi's version. Oh, and the Chicken that is Not a Chicken doesn't show up until book 5, I believe, so it won't be in WFR.
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I would rather see Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos series on TV than Wizard's First Rule. It could probably be done for the same money and needs a lot less trimming.
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I read all the Black Company books years ago, and reread them last year. They are very, very good ... but I was a little disappointed with them on reread. Why ? Because I had read Erickson's Malazan series in the interim. He admits he was influenced by Cook, and there are shades of Cook all over his work, but Erickson's series is like Black Company times 1000. It seriously might be the best thing I've ever read. And unlike Martin, Erickson seems to have no problems churning out 1000 fabulous pages per year. It was an absolute bear to make it through the first half of the first book in the series (since it is so fabulously complex), but once you get into it, it just flies by.
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In case none of you gathered, I really dig this series. Next book is out in a couple weeks via Amazon.co.uk (US version a few months later ... but I just can't wait, so I bite the bullet and order from the limeys overseas)
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