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Are you ready to be Punished?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the trailer for the PUNISHER sequel, PUNISHER: WAR ZONE.
IGN has it, so click it here to head on over...
You might have to click the Frank Castle image in the upper right hand corner before if it doesn't play right away.
I hope the movie's fun... so far the only impression I get is that Ray Stevenson is trying really, really, really hard. Thoughts?
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They should just make a Titus Pullo movie.
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Hey, everyone, it's Steven Segal!
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Damn...looks dark, looks good.
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Simply, mind-numbingly terrible.
Why put the "War Zone" above the Punisher in the title? Is it Punisher: War Zone or War Zone: Punisher? Whatever. It is lame regardless.
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Suck ass player.
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It can't get any worse. Other than that I thought the last Punisher movie was solid through and through. Fuck you if you disagree.
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That guy was the only redeeming part of the first film. He's a nice guy who deserved to be in the sequel. Rumor has it he dropped out due to the awful script and production team. You know it's bad when the lead actor refuses to take part in the film.
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I liked Stevenson in 'Rome'.
I'll be waiting for the DVD rental on this one -
know Tom Jane, know Justice...ok that was bad, but realy Jane was really the only really just good, great, part of the most recent one
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It's really bad. Everything about this trailer/film screams "Direct-to-DVD". Why isn't it Direct-to-DVD, again?
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Damn typos
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Direct to DVD shit.
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Cameron!
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Who knows if it will ever surface. If it does it HAS to feature Vorenus and Pullo. Rome...fucking hell, talk about a classic series! It's incredibly sad how it couldn't come back for a third season due to how much the show cost to make. The exterior sets are still there, Doctor Who used them!!
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The reason Punisher is such a good comic-book is because it's like an action movie, but in the comic-book medium. Once you put it back into the movies, it becomes a totally run of the mill action flick, unremarkable in any way.
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Where have we seen that before? I'm seeing nipples
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Man, that Jolie works fast.
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Why is Frank Castle on a chandalier twirling around shooting at people? I'm no navy seal, but I don't think spinning around upside down is the best tactic for killing mobsters.
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That was fast.
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...What next, a Sex And The City sequel?
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Where's Tom Jane when ya need him?
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Ray Stevens tries really, really, really hard.
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Until the Punisher actually started to speak. Ouch.
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hmmm well... the hanging from the chandelier looks totally dumb. and the rest of it looks really fucking dumb... this movie will fail.
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Dunno what to say.
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THIRTEEN!!!!!!
I assume the movie will be awful and much much less than Ray deserves
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Both punisher movies have sucked. Granted they were not Ghost Rider bad, but pretty fucking shitty.
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hopefully he'll use his pony tail as a combat device this time if he hasnt already.
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... when watching this trailer I kept thinking that Thomas Jane could beat the crap out of this new guy?
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I mean seriously. Acting is more than just holding your shit...
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lol'd
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Director's Cut
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...this film will be great.
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Because if they have made one I certainly have never heard of it.
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just wondering? I think the flick looks okay, not too impressed with the neon colors, but I do like upside-down Punisher. Call me crazy.
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Caligula Edition
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After Iron Man (and others), why would Marvel sully their name by releasing this crap theatrically? I could see BEFORE, but not now, when they're on a roll. Cheers to Thomas Jane for knowing this was crap.
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But it would have to be really smart, ballsy, hard R-rated flick with Castle just destroying baddies.
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It's not Marvel's choice, nor is Marvel financing it. This is a Lionsgate movie, just like next year's Wolverine is a Fox movie.
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Did that look like crap!
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Haven't see a good gunfight in a movie since Heat.
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Jun 12, 2008 11:13:32 PM CDT
If they want to make Punisher work as a comic book movie...
by chishu_ryu
...Marvel needs to make it a comic book movie. Make the villains super-powered or costumed. Use Jigsaw or bring in the real Kingpin, GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS, something that makes the film stand apart from looking like a Transporter or Die-Hard remake. Oh, and get a real fucking director and a good screenwriter familiar with the source material.
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...sweet mother McCreedy - this looks like turd on rye.
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Is it too much to ask for a little continuity?? This one also looks extremely low-budge and cheesy as hell. This better be direct to DVD, or standards have just been lowered in a big way at the main stream box office!
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Granted, it's probably pretty easy to make an uninteresting Punisher movie, or rather, it's probably difficult to make an interesting Punisher movie that feels like a comic book movie...
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My one idiot friend who works in D.C. and loves every Jean Claude van Damme movie. He made me see Knock-Off in theater. This looks right up his alley.
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Haven't you guys seen Rome? He was fucking excellent and he's definitely a proper bad ass. If you don't think he has the chops you're insane. I don't see what the problem is here. It's got the Punisher killing a bunch of people in cold blood and an actor that actually looks the part. And if anyone starts saying that the last Punisher movie was good I'm going to have to fucking kill them, because it was awful and a bastardization of the material. Moreover, this has atmosphere which that john Travolta wreck was completely devoid of. And I'm a huge Punisher fan. When I started buying comics in 1990 as a kid Punisher was the first comic I bought in a little comic shop called "Same Bat Channel" in Plattsburg new York. I remember it like it was yesterday. I also own a copy of Amazing Spider Man 129 so I'm not just talking out my ass here. I can't believe I'm the guy saying this for once but what exactly is the issue?
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Or Bourne Movies.
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Are you guys the same ones that bemoaned the first Incredible Hulk trailer for no reason? Lets have a discussion of why you dont like it. I have some problems as well
NEGATIVES
1.I thought the lighting seemed way over the top. Full of neons and uber bright colors that just dont fit in the palette of Frank's Castle's world. I would go back and desaturate the colors throughout to feel very Bradstreet like (nice sign btw).
2.I am totally not buying the shot of the spinning acrobatics...just not Punisher's style. That shot feels stolen from Boondock Saints...where it worked because they were fuckups. Frank Castle isn't a fuckup. Thus it feels out of place.
POSITIVES
1. Really liked the costume. It feels appropriately armor based and still tactical. The voice also felt very intense. Maybe too much but we will see...
2. Alot of the action felt viceral and raw, like the fight scenes in Green Street Hooligans. Well played. I hope its not wirefu-ish {I'm looking at you chandelier) and very down to Earth and mean.
Either way there is no way this can be worse than the first 2 incarnations...no way possible.
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you don't like this trailer because a woman directed it. Just kidding. Looks mediocre.
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Jeez, the last Punisher movie was mediocre but Tom Jane was at least believable and likable as the character. This new nobody playing the Punisher looks like utter shite. Some studio flushed their money down the toilet financing this turd.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvDfsjIuf34
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Sadly, I'll still go see it. And then bitch about it.
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God help us.
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. . . .women can't direct action films period! I promise you that this movie will be filled with Cliché’shots and action.
Woman just don't have it in them!,br>
Now before any of you pussies call me a sexist or male chauvinist, you need to check yourself, cause all I've read about the director on these talkbacks is how hot she is. . .or should I say, how hot you think she is.
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looks anything less than great. First of all he looks like the character a great deal more than Thomas Jane, who wasnt bad, but got swallowed by a bad movie. Stevenson is a lot more rugged and intimidating. More shark like, which is how the Punisher should be considering he's more or less dead inside. And his voice is TOO LOW? What the fuck are you talking about? Frank Castle is RAGE incarnate. His voice should be barely above a rasp. And like I said if you've seen Rome you know that he is a good actor, period. He 's going to be excellent in the role even if the movie doesn't live up. There is no one I would rather have playing Frank Castle.
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didn't care for the last one (except for thomas jane). it felt like they couldn't make up their minds as to whether they wanted it to be a realistic action-type movie, or a comic book movie.
this looks at least as good as that one, although i don't like the hanging upside down thing.
i agree with antz- a hyper-realistic punisher movie (a la heat/bourne movies) would be great.
Chishu_Ryu- do my eyes deceive me or is that jigsaw in the white suit towards the beginning?
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Don't knock women directors. Without them we wouldn't have American Psycho. I don't care how many bad movies chicks make, American Psycho is perfect, and the fact that it was directed by a woman makes it even better.
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Haven't we all seen that little upside down move before, with the spinning and shooting. For the love of God i hope this is direct to DVD
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I loved Stevenson in Rome, I hope he can keep up his momentum with a hit. The trailer looks good, well made, but he seems to be body-armour man more than the punisher.
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And Ray Stevenson was so good in ROME, too.
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You sound like Brucie from GTA IV. So either you're the world's biggest rip-off or the world's biggest douchebag. Take your pick.
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That swinging down upside down and shooting with two guns and spinning. YUCK. NetFlix all the way!
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and prepare to be judged!!! ooops wrong movie? Its looks pretty good. i wish Jane stayed on, oh well. As long as bad guys get offed and shit blows up, I am there.
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Sadly, the same point has been made once again: a decent Punisher flick CANNOT make on a B-Movie budget. DVD rental at BEST. That said, it looks like Ray Stevenson will be the best Frank yet. By a mile.
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Funny story...I thought Tom Jane would suck in The Punisher,ao I skipped it in theatres. Then I played the PS2 game and was amazed at whoever did the voice for the character...then I found out it was,yep,Tom Jane. SO I rented the movie when it hit DVD and quite enjoyed it...except for the John Travolta parts. Tom Jane RULED as Frank Castle and it killed me when he passed on this one due to the script. Based on the trailer,it do indeed look very direct-to-DVD and Steven Segalish....maybe Vern can take a bullet for the team and review this one when it hits.
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....Wow, maybe I'll watch it after all...
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After seeing that, I sure wouldn't bet that this will actually make it into theaters. Stevenson doesn't look bad, but overall this looks like "Generic Action Film #7392001".
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...have too many wrong opinions.
The correct opinion is that this looks decent, and Lexi Alexander looks hot. ;)
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Whoever wrote that should be banned from ever winning, being nominated for, working with someone who's won and Oscar. He shouldn't even be allowed to watch the Oscars.
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Jun 13, 2008 12:21:46 AM CDT
Titus Pullo. Seriously if you don't go on that alone your a douc
by stormwatcher
Cuz you havent seen Rome. Or worse, for some reason your surrogate parents dropped you on your head and you didn't love Rome due to brain damage. Best 2 seasons of a show ever.
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No matter what no one will be happy. Always something to bitch about. I think the trailer looks interesting. Of course everyone's gotta hate to look cool...lol. Sure looks better than all the CGI shit out there. And Stevenson KICKS ASS...ROME ruled and he can actually act...and afterall its The Punisher...no some Oscar material flick...its fun action....nothing more. And Lexi Alexander...well I sure would...lol...she os cute....and anyway since when does a director's looks matter...cause alot of them are ugly as shit...hahaha who cares, thats why they are behind the camera not in front. Anyway it looks pretty good and if you hate don't go!!! Nuff said.
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Rome and both Ray Stevenson and Kevin McKidd were awesome in it. I gravely doubt if there has been a tv series in the last 30 years as well made and as well acted as that was. Talk about perfect casting, scripting and directing.
As I said Awesome.
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I dont know why but this trailer reminds me of "Shoot them Up" in the whole spinning thing...that and "Underworld"...and the weird outfits from Sting's "Dune" So far the film looks awesome and badass, but is the punisher suposed to scare me? He looks mean, like he wants to spank me for something i dont remember doing. This reminds me of the pre-beginings batman films, bit flashy over the top and cool at the same time... can anyone say coolest line ever "sometimes i'd like to get my hands on god" i got wet just hearing that...and the last frame sent me to the floor with spasm of goosebumps...so many chills that i wet my pants...
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I thought Thomas Jane sucked as The Punisher. Anything would be better than the last move. The fact this one takes place in New York is already an improvement. We will see if this one sucks less than the last one.
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Jun 13, 2008 12:29:05 AM CDT
why the Segal talk....let him disappear already...lol
by quartermass-87
Segal is crap...and Stevenson would have to gain...oh....50 pounds to look like him...hahaha..Under Siege 3 should be about the end of the world and Seagal steals all the food for his fat ass and the other survivours come after him to get it back. It ends with him eating himself to death.
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Yai!!! The punisher is gay.I wonder if goes clubbing after he kills people...or some secret scooby doo fan meetings [turtle neck] ^___^ Gay people amuse me.
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Cant these idiots figure out why non-powered comic characters are remotely interesting? Punisher is a simpler character who excels as a comic due to his ability to actually compete against super-powered baddies. With no super-baddies, it's just another Steven Segal movie as everyone is already pointing out. It's supposed to be a comic movie, not another action drama film.
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Jun 13, 2008 12:31:56 AM CDT
an informal survey...Who thinks Lexi Alexander is Do-able?
by quartermass-87
Give your opinions...lol
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because that's your only hope out of virginhood my man. yeah, here you're talking smack behind an alias, but there's no way you can hide your misogynistic BS from any woman, given time. BTW, Lexi Alexander is a former full-contact kickboxer. The only "bleeder" if you ever met her would be your own sorry ass.
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That guy's hilarious! "Oh yes they call it the streak..." Classic.
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Who said Rambo was going to suck? They should be hunted down and slaughtered. Oh and I don't think you can put this on the same level as Rambo.
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What's with the neck guard? Is he going to be wearing it through the whole movie? Is he supposed to look like a bomb tech or something? Cause it sure looks a bit silly to me.
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no doubting Seagal can kick ass...his acting...ummm nope...one skill don't make you good at everything.
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It sort of reminds me of Christian Bale in Batman Begins.
He'll fail or it'll work very good.
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Jun 13, 2008 12:50:01 AM CDT
i KNOW the joker is hiding somewhere in this film,...i saw the c
by angusthecow
That isnt the punisher, its batman with his mask...there was a heatwave in gotham.
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I dont know why but this trailer reminds me of "Shoot them Up" in the whole spinning thing...that and "Underworld"...and the weird outfits from Sting's "Dune" So far the film looks awesome and badass, but is the punisher suposed to scare me? He looks mean, like he wants to spank me for something i dont remember doing. This reminds me of the pre-beginings batman films, bit flashy over the top and cool at the same time... can anyone say coolest line ever "sometimes i'd like to get my hands on god" i got wet just hearing that...and the last frame sent me to the floor with spasm of goosebumps...so many chills that i wet my pants... ps - the tent is up
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Who's supposed to watch this crap?
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Not a good trailer, but maybe not indicative of the movie. I'm not liking the spinning Lara Croft antics. And what's with all the colors?? This movie should be grey and gritty.
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why is it so hard to make a good punisher movie?
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That is one TERRIBLE trailer...I actually had ideas that the movie might actually be good...but it looked like a student film version of the punisher..that trailer, is a very BAD first impression, nothing felt impactful at all, and I know the IDEA of him hanging from a chandelier shooting guns might be a good idea, but boy did it look stupid on film. I had hopes, not high ones, that this was gonna be good, but this trailer looks like crap. WOW...
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...people who waste money by making wack movies. I mean, really? This? The Punisher (the first one as well as the "real" first one with Dolph Lundgren) could have never gotten made and I would still be sleeping at night.
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and completely out of context. In the comics The Punisher says that after he takes out the parents of children they were filming involved in sex acts, and he says it to himself and it's supposed to be somber/dissapointed not blown out angry.
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who has written some of the best comics ever with his MAX run on The Punisher. The Slavers is one of the best crime stories ever written and a masterpiece in the medium of comic books. Up there with anything Cormac McCarthy has written.
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Stevenson is a good choice, he and McKidd were fantastic in Rome, the movie will be R, but the budget is even smaller than it was in the previous one, the chandolier bit is terrible, and so is the dialog.
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This is too bad. I actually liked the first Punisher, and really liked Ray Stevenson in Rome, and so was looking forward to this. As has been mentioned numerous times above, this trailer looks quite direct-to-dvd-ish. I'll say it's slightly better than your average d2dvd flick, but not by much. Man when you are selling an action movie, especially one with a no-name star, you need to have some serious money shots in it. Not some dude swinging from a chandelier firing guns. Sigh.
If you dont have the budget for Die-Hard-level money shots, then I woulda gone with more grit, less operatic theme music (reminded me of the Hitman trailers). Have some cool-ass shots of bodies flying out a window and down onto a moving truck or something where you hear the crunch of bones breaking. Maybe a close up of Frank putting his gun to a goons's face, then a cut to black as you hear the gun-shot. You know Frank's a take-no-prisoners bad-ass who will kill the bad guys in cold blood, unlike Batman or Spidey. Whatever, I think they blew their chance with this trailer. -
I don't give a shit what anyone says, this looks fucking awesome. This is what the Thomas Jane shitfest should have been to begin with. The rest of you joyless fucks can lick a dick while I'm there opening weekend giving you pricks the finger.
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What a progressive thinker you are! Using words like Faggot and Gay to describe people on a public talkback. Plus getting angry with people for not believing that Rambo was a "masterpiece(!!!)" is far from fair. The movie surprised us as to how good it was (which was not that friggin' much, mind you, but not bad either) and therefore many of us ate our words. But not whole paragraphs. And I don't know if you know this or not, but you telling people to stop bitching while you are actually doing the same thing makes you something.....annoying to be sure, but something else I just can't put my hypocrite on it. Ah well, it'll come to me.
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but the trailer doesn't look bad. It actually looks pretty good to me. I just wish Tom Jane had stuck around.
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Steven Seagal is a liar and a fraud. I'm an aikido practitioner myself, so I'm kind of speaking from inside knowledge as well as common internet knowledge. True, the guy does know aikido, but he got his 7th Dan from marrying his Sensei's daughter as well as promoting himself once he became Dojo-Cho. And all his talk of Special Forces service is baloney. Plus, his aikido isn't even that great. Too much upper-body strength, exemplified in his highly inefficient Kokyu Nage. I've been to one of his schools, and the style was Aikikai, which means to people who REALLY know street effective aikido, that it sucks. Conclusion: Steven Siegel (his real name) is a phony. But, he does know a little aikido...
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Well if the content fits the wrapper and you have an eight-sided dick, things could get interesting ya fuck.
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...with an ordinary aikido wrist lock. A 98 lb girl could severely damage a 220 lb guy's wrist if she puts her weight behind it, or lacks control. That Mr. Siegel broke Connery's wrist means Siegel's a fucking idiot with no control over his locks. 7th Dan, huh?
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If this movie has any redeeming value, or worth watching moments. It makes Wanted look all the better.
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The man has done fucking great Punisher stories.
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That would be a great Punsiher movie.
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This is common knowledge for people who've done aikido long enough and don't have posters of the pony-tailed bandit hung up in their dojos. Do a little in-depth internet research and you'll find the stories there, too. For instance, Seagal Sensei (I'll show some respect now) may have taught a Special Forces guy who happened to be a student in his class, but he was never hired by the U.S. Military to train Navy Seals, although Seagal Sensie would have you believe otherwise. My Sensei actually learned under O'Sensei for over a decade until his death and never recalled Steven Seagal ever being a student, which he still claims.
Steven Seagal's contribution to the art of aikido is that he made it, for a time, globally popular due to his movies.
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So ill go check this out because of the director.But im betting this is the last time we will see good old Frank on the big screen.
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It looks cheap, like it was ALL filmed on a sound stage, no sense of being outside on real streets or inside in real buildings. This guy playing Castle sucks the dry cheese of my helmet, what's with the constipated line delivery? The logo is perhaps the worst part wtf? Did a spasticated chimp knock that up with MS Paint? well, all be crying into our Blu-Ray copies of The Punisher hoping for the return of Thomas Jane before this shit excretes itself from the cinema.
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...including myself. Just to say that Seagal is human, and is as capable of a little untruth as any of us. Don't want to be a hypocrite here...
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or else you would know ray stevens...and please dont bag on him...if this film fails, it wont be his fault...he may sound constipated thanks to the direction he is getting...look, the director may be a hot chick known for action, but hot chicks dont read comics (hot chicks just shit on the guys who do) this looks to me like a throwback to the first movie, and the shitty arc where frank ran around with a mobile armory...fuckin fan boy shite...jane walked away from the project when he saw that the script was shit...stevens doesnt have that luxury...he is still an unknown to american audiences...but he deserves better roles than this...the guy proved on rome that he can do more than just action...although his pullo is the baddest character since rambo
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As always (disclaimer) I have to be fair and reserve judgement until the movie comes out in december(?)Steven would have made for a decent punisher back when he was much younger, but the guy is more or less a parody of himself that and his Akido moves are the same ol' shit.I'll bet my unsued Amazon credit card that wanted will be way better than this shit.And I don't see what's all the fuss about that movie either.
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I've got a lot of respect for the source material, I just am rarely able to bring myself to read a comic. For me, once they tske it to the big screen, it's time to stop whining about how much it is or isn't like the original comic, and start judging the film on it's own merits. I liked the last Punisher movie, knew virtually nothing of the comic (or the movie for that matter, happened upon it by chance on DVD) and actually found it rather enjoyable.
I don't often analyse stuff while I'm watching, but I'll just say that I was very aware that a lot of my enjoyment came from Thomas Jane's performance, so this sequel was pretty much dead to me when it emerged he had bailed. Now I've seen the trailer...I don't think there's much hope of me seeing this movie, ever. -
at no time could lundgren master the english language...so he never sounded like a former ny cop...he sounded like some swedish dude trying his worst at an american accent...and the dude lived in the sewers...but he amazingly had more weapons than the entire armed forces...and forget the entire plot line...total bs...but of course, to prove he aint no racist, he hangs out with a black dude...that movie was foul...i still dont get why hollywood doesnt trust comic book writers to write their own scripts...
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after such successes in serious adaptations of Iron Man and Hulk, they have now thrown all their newfound credibility and respect out the window with this turd that looks like the worst kind of direct-to-video crap.
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I'll put it to you this way in terms of action,a plot in which Castle is up against both the mafia and the yakuza, and creible acting at least from Lou Gossit Jr (as you call him "a black dude'.)Shit yeah Dolph's Punisher will remain uncontested. We all know Lungren couldn't master the queen's english, but neither could Ahhnold "get to de choppa..!!!' schwartzenegger.Atleast "Drago" has a Black belt in Karate which was a bos for a movie like the punisher,whilist the jane version was just uh, guns.I'm no fan of lundren, but i reinterate; His version is still the best even if it's a 90's B movie sans skull.with that being said,I gotta hand it to the poster (whinybitch I think) who reminded me of Jane's Castle breag up a marraige in a act movie.funniest comment thus far.As for the guy who calls women "Bleeders" it's obvs that someone is not getting laid atleast by a female. Where's Vern-Captain-save-a-Ho when you need him?(Inside joke for those in the know.)
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dolph was good but his was the best punisher movie because it was just pure 80s hard action. tom jane had the most potential but whoever wrote it sucked with the awful neighbors and john suckolta and etc. this one looks like shit BOTH ways!
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They should've just adpated the first arc of his MAX run. What an awesome book. That's the only way I would want to see Microchip in these flicks: getting his face blown off. That or the one-shot special he did where Frank gets himself sent to jail so he can take out the people behind thje death of his family. Fucking great stuff. I'm dropping Punisher when Garth leaves. As for this trailer? Meh. Bit too neon, and the hanging-from-the-chandelier is dumb (as Frank would ever do that, massive tactical boner). I will give the film a chance, though. It can't be any worse than that botched Thomas Jane nightmare (Florida??! Fuck off).
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I guess my lady is the exception that proves the rule.
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Visually I think Lacy mis-stepped, this movie is supposed to be dark and gritty, and all the candy colors in the trailer make it look like an episode of CSI Miami. That being said, Thomas Jane's Punisher was an emo punk.
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this is gonna be shit
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Hysterical. I love it when Talkbackers put stuff like this up.
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MAN ON FIRE, that film was more Punisher than the first 2 films AND judging from that trailer more Punisher than the third/
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Hey, that was my oportunity to flaunt and i took it!
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Stevenson looks alot better than I thought he would as Frank Castle. I really liked him in Rome. He was the best character on the show. Kinda looking forward to this now.
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So no one else thinks it is a little hot that a cute woman directed the flick? Plus isn't Julie Benz in this?...I think so and SHE IS SMOKIN'!!! And The Wire's Dominic West is in this damn good actors...and the whole spinning while shooting....people it ain't the whole flick...lol...just a scene....take a deep breath. Oh and the flare scene in the trailer...pretty COOL. Plus if you hate this movie so much go watch The HULK videogame...oops sorry....MOVIE...or see CGI Jones and the Aliens again....any flick that actually has "real" action is a plus. Like I said before...NO ONE will ever be happy...I remember people hating on Christian Bale when he was picked as Batman....where are those idiots now?...Hmmm oh yeah kissing Bale's ass...hahaha.
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she better have some talent.
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It wasn't the best trailer I've ever seen and the movie as a whole looks like a late 80s/early 90s low budget action flick BUT that would still make it the best Punisher movie yet. I'm a huge comic book fan and I love Ennis' run on Punisher, but the Tom Jane movie with Travolta et al was one of the worst comic book movies ever. It was atrocious from start to finish. Ray Stevenson was awesome in Rome and although his American accent leaves something to be desired he IS the best Frank Castle we've had yet and I think this movie will be solid enough if not brilliant in any way.
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I just find it really funny. It's one of the joys of an anonymous forum. She could be a stunning contortionist nymphomaniac with the temperament of an angel. Or she could be a minger with an attitude problem and a sex drive so low it puts Giant Pandas to shame. There's no way of telling.
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I don't give a shit what the movie's about as long as they cut him fully loose to spray some blood.
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The Slavers is one of the most emotionally brutal and well written stories ever. I don't think a single human being would not want those people killed. And what a brutally profound ending. Seriously, it is a masterpiece of crime and misanthropy. One of the greatest crime stories ever written.
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Why this pathetic fanboyish need to validate your fetish by comparing it to other established media? Are you that fucking insecure? If The Slavers is that good then it can stand by itself, it doesn't need some shrill fantard comparing it to McCarthy. Oh I forgot, you're the same dick that reckoned Smallville > The Godfather.
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ahh well.
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Suffers the same problem that Dardevil, Ghost Rider and both previous Punisher movies did: the look and the lighting are too clean for the material.
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that after a minutes worth of footage some people have already decided its rubbish... give it a chance! it definately feels more like the comic than the last film did. i do miss Jane though, but this guy does look the part a little better.
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Jun 13, 2008 5:52:09 AM CDT
Where's the 9 minute anal rape scene like Irreversible?
by stuntcock mike
Wait, that's in The Happening. Hence the R rating.
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the movie looks gay but this guy looks and sounds like i imagined frank castle from the comics would.
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This isn't even B grade. It looks like an F grade mess!!! Marvel save your money and go straight to DVD on this turkey!!!Give us a "Moon Knight" movie already!!!
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and Vorenus. Sons of Hades!
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wtf is this matrix wannabe cgi shit.
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Now there's a story they should film.
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Why the fuck are you fucking stupid, the cormac mccarthy comparison was done by other people who said the slavers was as good as no country for old men. and i never said smallville>the godfather. never said that. so shut the fuck up. do you only call me fanboy cos i know about comics? fucking hell. i'm tempted to go back to london just to beat you to death with a punisher trade.
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She´s a combination of both. When did you meet her???
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Cuervo- Ha! it's all in good fun. Messi- I call you a fanboy because that is what you are- you have a minority obsession that you push and push and push with the most pathetic WAAAAAAAH posts, and worse you will not accept/ recognise any other fucking argument especially one that points out how fucking stupid you are being. This is the internet- give me a reference to back up your laughable claim and I'll stand down. Until then, fuck you fanboy.
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I don't get what your problem with messi is, you call him a fanboy because he knows about comics? and you don't? as far as i recall weren't you the one making fun of sinestro corps war? who makes fun of sinestro corps war? I don't see anything wrong with messi promoting stuff he likes which is actually good(the slavers is indeed very amazing and the mccarthy comparison is apt, and the aforementioned sinestro corps war). I don't get it, he says the slavers is awesome and sinestro corps war is awesome. What's wrong with that? maybe you should read both stories.
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Jane got in great shape for the first one, but the guys a charisma vacuum. That film wasn't the Punisher. Nor does this new version appear to be. I don't know why Marvel doesn't revisit Mike Zeck's great original series. Why no Vietnam back story? At it's core, The Punisher is basically RAMBO vs. the mob. This looks so damn GENERIC ... I would've went in the opposite direction (less colored lights ... almost black and white) Too bad. Everybody loves a good vigilante tale and the Punisher has a lot of potential in the right hands.
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Wasn't bad. You know it. The director's cut was even better. Suck my balls haters. This looks like crap.
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I'll explain what my problem with him is- he makes ridiculous laughable claims that he can't back up and then turns around and calls other people "Fanboy Cunt". I don't give a fuck what his particular subject of choice is, I object to the hypocrisy. I also object to his sweeping generalisations, moronic attitude and pathetic need for validation. To be fair, I did take the piss out of the Sinestro Corps War- but I did it to bait him, and if it is good then I'll happily say so. Give me a link for the McCarthy comparison, and I'll let this one go as well. I won't read either story, because I do not have enough interest to go out of my way to buy them. And before you claim it is me being dismissive and ignorant- my argument is not that his obsession is good, it is that he is a shrill fanboy fucktard with a hypocritical streak a mile wide.
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Jesus... that movie was so bad. I re-watched it the other day and it was more stupid and nonsensical than I had remembered. Frank's 15 minute long "walk into building and have a showdown with two security guards" part, the fucking neighbors, the fucking idiot cowboy guitar player who plays a song for Frank and then attacks him with his car... it was just goddamn awful. I couldn't believe how wrong they'd gotten everything, what a pussy they'd turned Frank Castle into. Suck it Fellaters (opposite of haters). Hope this one's better.
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I can't believe they're fucking up my favorite comic book character FOR THE THIRD TIME. I mean, what the fuck is that chandelier shit? Why can't we have the stark brutality of something like RAMBO? That's what the character demands, not a bunch of over-cooked balletic Hong Kong action nonsense and Joel Schumacher colors. FUCK.
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And this looks really amateurish so far. The spinning upside down gun-show? "Sometimes I'd like to get my hands on God"? I think the Ennis MAX Punisher is one of the greatest comics series ever... why not just adapt one of those storylines (preferable, 'The Slavers'). Instant bad-ass film.
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As far as i recall they were on chud and other blogs. plus myself too. like i said the comparison is apt and people were only making the comparison because both are great crime stories. Your argument is pretty hypocritical too, really, because you call him for whatever it is he talks about liking yet then make the excuse that you have no interest enough to know what he's talking about. you could easily see for yourself why even someone like msyelf would make a comparison between the slavers and cormac mccarthy rather than just call him whatever for saying it. kind of a copt out. doesn't make much sense does it.
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I said not enough to go out of my way.
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ridiculously hyperbolic claim. That's why.
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oops forgot to log off his comp. ohh well argument still stands. but whatever. move on.
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Misogynists get the most pussy. And nobody's more misogynistic than women.
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so go and fuck yourself. I'll leave you alone till the next time you make a stupid claim
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how is it hyperbolic? i don't get it. you say it hyperbole but how do you know that it isn't. you don't and just say that you have no interest in finding out. you'd make a pretty awful lawyer. a few people on the chud talkbacks said the cormac mccarthy comparison. so there. by the way the violence was just a joke considering how silly this was getting, i have no idea who you are and i seriously doubt you would tell me so it's silly for you to take me seriously, besides taking me seriously that i would beat you to detah with a punisher trade or put my fist through your eyes(how is that even possible). someone needs a sense of humor.
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Hyperbolic because it's a pretty fucking ballsy claim. You also said it was better than Goodfellas which I find very hard to believe. Nice climbdown on the threat of violence. It doesn't make you look like less of a prick.
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woah i don't remember saying it was better than goodfellas. i don't really care if you think i'm a prick, makes no difference to my life. it's a talkback, who gives a shit.
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as much as I loved No country for old men, the slavers is a more enjoyable story and a bit more important in a sense since it covers something so horrible and realistic.
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Wow, what a shitty trailer. When I heard that Titus Pullo was going to be Castle, I didn't know what to think. Then, we got pics from the movie, and they looked alright. Now I get a trailer, and it totally looks like shit. Hanging and shooting? To quote Willem Dafoe from that Troy Duffy movie from ancient times, "That James Bond shit doesn't work in real life. Professionals don't do that."
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I can find hundreds of equally moronic claims of yours. Google is really not your friend.
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Theres a shot 8 sec into the trailer where frank is holding his dead son on a blanket (his wife and other child are lying on the ground beside him), this is the original (comic book) birth of the punisher, his wife and kids are gunned down by gangsters as they picnic in a park, as opposed to the wholesale slaughter of about 40 castle family members in Lions Gate's last punisher outing. So this is another origins film??
The first shot of Frank as the Punisher in the trailer (on top of the table with a flare) is very Punisher comic book and in particular very war zone, they nailed the body armor it looks great and Ray Stevenson looks and sounds the part. I really hope Lexi Alexander did a good job with this, it looks like there is potential here.
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I see you are playing with Messi today?
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One hell of a quote, right there!
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Battle of the HBO Stars
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Honest add a hood and Steven Segal(had to do it) is wearing a bomb squad uniform. This looks like shit, not speed racer shit, but shit either way.
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Not great, but pretty darn good.
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yup, he's being tiresome again. I'll get bored of crushing his pathetic arguments at some point.
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Jane was a awesome Punisher, shitty script and budget that should have been R rated. The First, ok second Punisher movie was just bad calls, I thought Jane rocked in that role minus all the cheese! :)
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There is an obscure California state law that says you are not allowed to make a movie anymore unless it's a remake, sequel, or based on a comic book, and you get a special certificate and autographed T2 DVD from Governor Schwarzenegger if it is all three, as in this case. So if this is what it takes to get some good low budget action movies going where it's about a bad motherfucker killing some guys instead of a magical or mutant guy in a colorful costume swinging around, then this will have to do. I'm sorry if your favorite comics strips and cartoons are collateral damage, but I for one am happy that they keep trying to make a movie out of this one.
I still say Dolph was totally wrong for that other one AT THE TIME (I think he could do it now) but it's kind of a fun, goofy movie. And I like the second one. Somebody was just criticizing the guitar playing assassin - that guy is one reason why I like that movie. It mostly plays as an old school action movie, but then every once in a while it has a weird touch like that. The guy comes in and sings a song about how he's gonna kill him, and Thomas Jane just sits there chewing his egg like "Huh. That was weird." Perfect.
I will miss Thomas Jane but this guy seems good. Not sure about hanging upside down, but otherwise this is a good down and dirty trailer and I like the tough guy line at the end, I don't care what you boys say. -
I like Tom Jane a lot, but the character he played in that movie was retarded. He sits eating in a diner while a man plays a song for him. He has a stand-off with two security guards where he gives them a chance to draw, then just walks away after. He USES A FAKE FUCKING FIRE HYDRANT TO MAKE A BAD GUY GET A TICKET. A stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid movie.
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It (cowboy singer) was some poseur, third-rate Tarantinoesque, senseless, oddball insertion into a movie where it didn't belong. I have noticed of late that you no longer strive for excellence, which is a shame.
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That I must echo the "soundstage" quality comments made about the filming. Look, this isn't hard okay? Even without Jane. You call in Punisher scribe to punch up the dialogue and that's about it. Why is this so damn difficult?
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Good Boondock Saints reference. I'm still hopeful, but I'm not really feeling it. I guess I want a Ridley Scott Punisher, but that'll never happen. I like Pullo as Punisher, and was never totally invested for Jane as Frank. Slavers is simply a must make comic film.
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...and in the Wal-Mart cheap-o bin a week later.
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Jun 13, 2008 11:23:31 AM CDT
I liked the trailer, but not the boondock saints shot
by stovetopstuffin'
They say don't redo anything if you can't do it better, and the boondock saints did it better. Sorry. But the movie looks good still!
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Kudos for Tom Jane bailing on this. Looks like DTV dreck...
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his country parody songs are HI-Larious!
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And neither is this guy. Looks almost as bad as the last one unfortunately.
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You took all my talking points! The Thomas Jane Punisher was NOT the Punisher. Lundgren's was closer to the source, even if they screwed up his family's names and the way they were murdered, at least they got the fact that he was totally devoid of mercy, and really didn't give a shit about anyone.
Ray Stevenson kicked MUCHO ass in Rome, so my only reservation is whether the writers and director had the guts to go dark enough. Think the newest Rambo, but with the Punisher, and you have it right. Deadly and mean, without wasting a single move to pose of make stupid one liners. Just go in, KILL EVERYONE AS QUICKLY AND BRUTALLY AS POSSIBLE, and then get out. Don't take chances, always have a backup plan, and always be one step ahead of the scum you are eliminating. THAT, my friends, is the Punisher! -
it would just be some lousy straight to video action movie at BEST
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They might as well, in that way everything can be salvaged! I wanna see Spidey and the Punisher and Wolverine in one movie!
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this trailer looks okay but that skull is so iconic, why fade it out and make it barely an afterthought?
and i agree with vern that the guitar playing guy was kind of cool BUT he was totally wasted in terms of actually fighting the punisher since all the punisher did was try to drive away, crash his car, and then luckily have a spring loaded knife to get himself out of his stupid failure to even flee. -
I'm not going to comment on Stevenson's work in Rome as I haven't seen it. Which I think grants me some objectivity that you seem to lack, being such a big fan of his work in Rome. When I listen to those line deliveries, I don't hear rage. I hear boredom. The pitch of his voice (low, high) and the quality (clear, gravelly) aren't the issue. It's the lack of anything behind them. You say he's filled with rage, but he delivers that "sometimes I want to get my hands on God" line like he's stifling a yawn.
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You have obviously never lost anyone important to you, or you would know how it feels to hate god.
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First off, this is just a teaser trailer so it's not going to show all the cards, calm the hell down.
The people complaining about no Jigsaw and no Microchip I guess you guys aren't following the production closely or spent a few seconds to go to IMDB.com and look at the cast list. Heck they even have The Punisher Task Force in this!
Ray Stevenson... if you haven't seen ROME I suggest you check it out and stop watching whatever bullshit you are watching now... LOST... HEROES...NIP/TUCK. Pay close attention to Ray Stevenson as Titus Pullo and bow to his awesomeness and tell me he wasn't perfectly cast. In the photos and footage we've seen, he looks like he walked out of a Bradstreet drawing. And it sucks to be you that the image of a guy with slicked back hair and a gun = Steven Seagal. It doesn't for me, and I've seen most of his movies. In the theater, even.
I agree with Vern, it's about time we get more low budget action movies, I don't want to see a 200 million dollar Punisher movie anyway. I'm neutral with this director, but at least she's young, hungry and indie and not Brett Ratner or Stephen Sommers.
Still worried about the screenplay? Well that movie you guys having been humping your pillow over, IRON MAN, well, those writers rewrote the script.
Oh, and that shot of the Punisher behind the wall with all the group of people with guns on the other? That reminded me of LEON : THE PROFESSIONAL
Anyway, enough of the B.S., hopefully 3rd time is a charm.
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"Well I am... over-fuckin-whelmed." Looks like the third time will not be the charm. Jesus tap-dancing Christ; how hard is it? You find the most hard-core of hard-core fans, ask him what's the best "Punisher" story, buy the rights to it, adapt it faithfully into a screenplay, and film it. I never cease to ponder how people who should be holding the stop/slow sign on a road crew end up in positions of power to make such dumbass choices. Blackmail is the logical answer, I think. Guess I'd better get some of those Spielberg-donkey pictures. Or the Bruckheimer-gerbil ones. I'd see if I could get my hands on the Lucas-Womprat ones, but I heard they're hard to even look at.
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actually more excited about this than boring ol retard hulk. this is more my style, not some bad cgi mini-monster movie, but a badass take down the badguys shoot em up!
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Already played the Punisher in an awesome little movie called Shoot'Em Up...ever hear of it?
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It sucked ass! if Stupid, non-realistic, WAY over the top action is your game, I suggest you go see "Indiana Jones and the Quest for more cash".
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That hanging upside down and shooting was awesome. I don't mind a tip of the hat to Boondock saints. That movie was fantastic, and if they make this one as good at boondock, then I'll be a happy camper.
The one liner was sweet too! escpially if its right before he kills a dozen guys with a rocket launcher or remote mines, or a grenade, or etc...
I also love the crazy neon lights. makes it look like a comic book, but not over the top like those Clooney batman movies. I think they are a sharp contrast to the darkness that otherwise surounds the punisher.
And as for his voice being too deep. It can't be deep enough. I think they should get satan himself to do the voice over for the punisher. This is the guy who can take out the whole marvel universe (effin sweet comic too!) so the darker and deeper the voice, the better! I'm seriously looking forward to this!
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That corny Gregorian chant chorus? God, has that gotten old.
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The Punisher is one of my favorite Marvel characters. Obviously the Dolph Lundgren adaptation was bad, but it looked like Citizen Kane compared to the Thomas Jane adaptation. That travesty was a trainwreck visible from the first images and teaser. It was like a person who had never picked up a comic book in their life tried to make a comic book movie. This one actually looks good. It looks like a Punisher movie. I am glad they did not go with any big stars for the film - I'd much rather see a low profile movie rather than directly pandering to the general moviegoing audience like the last film did.
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all that gun kata stuff seems totally out of place with The Punisher. the best thing about the last film was they kept him stripped down and raw, right down to his car. punisher is not supposed to be some slic, acrobatic ninja, for fuck sake. he's just a plain badass. this movie looks horrendous, there is NO WAY I will be seeing it in theaters.
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that song:Bodies.Hey Downing Pool gotta eat. "let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floooor.."!!
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The bitch.
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never saw the first one, but i hear its also pretty bad. maybe Punisher just isn't a cinematic character.
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As a Punisher fan with two dead parents, I can absolutely say that the line is ridiculous - coming out of Frank Castle's mouth, and with inflection he gives it. I'm a big fan of Ray Stevenson from ROME, and I think he's a great choice for Castle, but that line delivery was Hayden Christiansen-Anakin Skywalker bad. They need to use another take, at least.
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for watching that trailer!,to the $5.00 bin at wal-mart with you!
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I'm not quite sure exactly how you would like him to be delivering his lines, but I think it's spot on. I'm not sure if you not seeing him in Rome offers you more objectivity, or less knowledge as to his acting skill, I suppose it could be argued wither way. And considering some people are talking favorably about the last Punisher film, which was every bit as bad as Ghost Rider or Daredevil in how badly it butchered the material, I'm not sure many people here have any idea what they are talking about. Especially considering that this trailer is more of a teaser than anything else, if there is anything anyone should be bitching about it's what they DON'T show rather than what they do. There just isn't enough here to hate. If you think there is it's pure hyperbole.
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Hayden Christensen bad??? My god did Ray Stevenson fuck your sister or something? Because that's the most over the top thing said so far on this talkback in it's wild inaccuracy. If you're not a fan fine, but he's certainly not whining in the same way that Christensen (one of the worst actors of his generation) that makes you want to put your fist through his head. And as I said above I'm a Punisher fan to, Im willing to bet at least as big of one as you if not bigger, and that's exactly something Frank Castle would say.
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She's in this and SHE is HOT HOT HOT!!!! Plus the director is cute I know I keep saying it but hey I think there is something sexy about her...plus she could kick ass...so there is that too. And Stevenson Dominic West...fuck people what do you want....its a movie. An action movie pure and simple. You say cheap looking or whatever I say ahhh the glory days of action....80's style....action is supposed to be silly and fun and intense. And for piss sakes enough with the whole spinning thing....geez its like a scene in the flick....not the whole flick...LOL
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That will shut you bitches right the fuck up. Stevenson is an awesome actor that can play rage, sadness, frivolity, and change on a dime, or whatever the expression is. Case in point: he bashfully frees his cute slave so she can marry him. She misunderstands and thanks him for freeing her so she can marry her slave boyfriend. When the boyfriend walks up to thank him, Pullo (Stevenson) goes from hurt confusion to rage in 2 seconds and bashes the guy's head to a bloody pulp on a pillar. Then he realizes what he's done and actually tries to apologize to the woman. The guy's amazing. Don't let this lackluster trailer fool you. And talk about rampant misogyny and sexism. So for a female director to be taken seriously here, you have to determine whether or not she's fuckable? Nice. Lexi Stevenson would kick all of your asses and laugh while you cried for mama. Bitches.
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Ummm I said Lexi was cute...and could kick ass...and I take her seriously...damn I think making a flim and having people trash it while sittin on their fat do nothing asses sucks shit. I think woman can direct as well as men...fuck I don't care as long as the flick is good....I was simply saying....talent....and she is cute...nice package. So whatever. And its so funny what people like here....LOL...some actually stupid shit...lol....this flick looks good....I mean it ain't CGI filled garbage and it ain't the Oscar worthy Hulk screenplay....(sarcasm alert). I guess dialogue is good only if fanboys think it is.
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wasn't really referring to you dude. It was the other Bitches. Though I don't find it necessary to comment about a director's physical attractiveness at all. I can at least see why it's important for actresses (and I'm with you on Julie Benz, have been into her since Buffy), but with behind the scene folks, it doesn't even need to be brought up, as its irrelevant to their filmmaking.
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It looks like shit. Seriously. So much for the dark visuals, and gritty tone. The picture looks way too clean and DTV. And what the fuck with the colors? I don't feel Stevenson as Castle, but if he starts torturing people, then there may be some redeeming values in this crap-looking version.
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I don't see what there is in this trailer to make me sit up and take notice of the guy. If he's good in Rome, that's great. But this isn't Rome. I'm on your side in that you can't judge the guy's performance solely on the trailer and I hear a lot of good about him. But on the other hand, YOU can't judge his performance in this based solely on Rome, either. In this trailer, he's not impressing me. Could still be spot-on, but in what little we're given I don't see much to get excited about, performance-wise. In context, with more build up to those lines, the delivery might be a lot more acceptable. But cut up into a trailer? Nope. Nothing.
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Moon Knight kicks ass. They should adapt the "Bottom" storyline. It would be Great.
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.it was called batman. :P
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BOOSTER GOLD, that would rock!!!!!
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Gee, what a shock. Now Marvel's back to pounding out shitty movies again to make quick cash off their name. Wow, that looks CRAPTACULAR. Whoever said it looks like a direct to DVD Steven Seagal flick nailed it. They'd better cut a much better trailer than that or it IS going direct to DVD.
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#1 Moon Knight
#2 Quantum and Woody
#3 The Dark Knight Returns
#4 Cal McDonald
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Hanging upside-down, spinning, and taking out a room full of bad guys is a failed idea. It almost ruined The Boondock Saints, but at least that movie had all sorts of comic relief, so it sort of belongs in the context of the film.
In The Punisher, it will destroy whatever gravitas has been built.
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True....the only way that scene could work for me is if somehow (I don't see it though) he's not hanging there by choice.
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Punisher is simply the easiest super hero to do. Bad guys kill family -- Punisher kills EVERYONE. Where the fuck is John Woo? I love Thomas Jane don't get me wrong but that Punisher movie was a fucking comedy. John Travolta was soo bad! The part at the end where he tries to draw his gun and Jane shoots him then he does a little spin and makes a face. WTF! That's not how the Punisher would do it. Other stupid shit included the singing assassin who decides to wait till Jane is in his car before he attacks. Even though "Brought a knife to a gun fight" and then blade shoots out and stabs him in the neck scene always makes me laugh. But seriously Punisher should be done right... This doesn't look right. This looks stupid.
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Is this a remake to the one from the 80's or the one a few years back? Shit, this makes those to crap fests look like classics
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The first Punisher was ultra violent and I don't care if the story was lacking, they got the violence right. In the 2004 movie, it seemed like Punisher spent days fucking around with a fake fire hydrant so that Travolta would get a parking ticket so that his wife would get mad and...fuck I forget. The point is that it was fucking stupid. I hated that movie.
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Bring back Dolph! Verne Troyer may possibly be a better Frank Castle than this guy.
Yikes.
Let's hope Marvel Studios is able to someday take complete control.
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Finally NO Tampa Florida!
This and the dark tone in the trailer make me really looking forward to this movie. The line about god is exactly what the Punisher is about... so this movie seems like it nails the Punisher way more better than the last one.
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thats the problem they have have too much emo "help me lord!" type nonsense in the jane and this version, it all looks too clean and glossy with people overracting like they think they'll get an oscar. tired action as well. the 89 version was balls to the wall routine in body counting. for taht it knew its place and is still the best version.
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watch yet ANOTHER agonizing shitty version of a superhero; then not really. The trailer looks...uhm...I don't know. You want to have hope that its good, but from the get go there has been nothing but bad news. I'll cross my fingers and hope its at least decent but I'm not holding my breathe.
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Yeah, if he got his hands on one of them...And off that big ass pulled pork sammich. Dude, Tony Jaa would knee his smart balls up to the roof of his smart mouth.
Prossor...What the fuck? Punisher 89 was shitty. The Punisher would use KNIVES? KNIVES?!!?! NINJAS?! ! That movie was retardiculous. -
And Dolph really looked like someone who lived in a sewer.
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The Punisher was created as a comic 'version' of popular film characters of the time: Dirty Harry, Bronson in DeathWish, etc. Even more blatantly, Castle himself is virtual rip-off of Don Pendelton's EXECUTIONER novel franchise and its anti-hero Mack Bolan; popular in the lat '60s, 70s. If somebody made a Punisher movie then, it could have been interesting. Today, it's a waste of time. The character is a copy of a copy of a copy; interesting as a cinematic transplant into the comic medium, but completely redundant if returned to film. It'll throttle Ray Stevensons career. Too bad for that, but a bad move for Marvel overall. Who knows, though? It may surprise us like The Incredible Hulk did.
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...it's about taking the fight out of the person with as little damage as possible to that person. It surely is one of the most philosophical of the martial arts. "Aikido" means "way of harmony with ki." It's actually a very peaceful martial art, but it can hurt. What Seagal Sensei does in his movies is based on aikido, but it all definitely has a "take no prisoners action movie" twist to it, that it all ends up being less aikido and maybe more aikijitsu which is more about technique. For some other good cinematic examples of aikido-based moves, look at the Bourne movies. The main character uses aikido in almost every move.
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He's listed as such with the Aiki Federation, I just stated he got an incredibly easy road to a 7th Dan by marrying the daughter of an AIkido Sensei and also legally promoting himself. I'm just saying Seagal is a spoiled brat who was used to getting his way on account of his good salemanship. And yes, he does indeed know to a degree ( just not a 7th Dan degree imo) but he's not the baddest mutha on the planet, okay? I believe Jujitsu master Gene LeBell knocked his punk-ass out on one of his own movie sets one time cause he was acting like a punk and therefore needed to be punked. You don't mess with Gene LeBell...
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Thanks Santa, you're the best!
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Looks like it, at 21 seconds in, I'm sure those guys aren't just pointing their fingers at Jigsaw and his men.
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