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M. Night’s HAPPENING Tonight, And You Guys Are Weighing In!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
Not sure if they’re screening this for the Austin crew or not, but I’m going to pay to see it at the midnight show in Woodland Hills so I can review it tomorrow night.
Fox has been screening it a bit, though, and several of you have sent us reviews now, so it’s time to do a round-up of several of the best for you, with reactions all over the map.
Here’s Latauro with his take on things to kick us off:
I used to say that M. Night Shyamalan should be president of his own fan club. A recent interview in an Australian magazine changed my mind on this. I think he's overqualified for the job. He's got a lot of chutzpah to keep talking about how great he is, especially given that he gets louder the worse his films get.
I don't have any hate for the man, mind you. In fact, I've long been in his corner. I loved SIXTH SENSE and I loved UNBREAKABLE, and I was, for a short time, a SIGNS apologist. Then THE VILLAGE happened. I maintained that even though his scripts were getting worse, his direction was improving. In some ways, his filmmaking skills were improving with every outing. I continued this line with LADY IN THE WATER, even though his directing hadn't really improved since the last film. That didn't bother me much, though. It has a narrative to maintain, and that narrative involved searching for redemption within a career that was self-imploding.
THE HAPPENING destroys all this. It is by far the worst MNS film to date, as the direction has gone the way of the scriptwriting. I know it sounds like I'm reveling what is clearly about to be an evisceration, but I think he's got a lot of talent and I really hate having to talk about yet another failure in a long line of failures. God, I really hate it... but I gotta be honest.
Mark Wahlberg plays a science teacher. We know this because he keeps saying "science" and "scientific" a lot, words that are said a lot in films by characters who don't sound anything like scientists. His best friend, John Leguizamo, is a maths teacher. We know this because he keeps saying "math" and "statistics" a lot. He also uses mathematical riddles at inappropriate times, because he is Maths Guy, and this script is full of lazy shorthand.
Wahlberg struggles through dialogue ranging from supposedly complex scientific formula to "Oh no!". This is not the Wahlberg from THE DEPARTED. This is the Wahlberg from THE PERFECT STORM, hopelessly at the mercy of his script and director. Here, he plays a character we are completely unable to connect with. You know how MNS's previous characters (Willis in SIXTH SENSE, Willis in UNBREAKABLE, Giamatti in LADY IN THE WATER) were inaccessible, and that was the point of the character? It now seems as if he's just unable to write actual characters that we can feel emotion for. Or perhaps it was just a poor marriage of material and actor. I don't know. All I know is that Wahlberg's stiltedness is overshadowed only by Zooey Deschenal's stiltedness. Deschanel plays a character who is actually supposed to be stilted, and she clearly does a very good job at following the direction she's given, and, not surprisingly, it's the direction I'm calling into question. She's a muddle of a character, who seems to suggest she has an arc in there somewhere, even though we can't quite see it.
This film wants very badly to be WAR OF THE WORLDS, but misses every mark that WOTW hit. The "scares" are more comical than frightening, the characters are, without exception, unlikable, and the whole central idea of "It's the plants!" never progresses beyond the silliness it suggests. (For the record, I think "it's the plants!" could have been cool, but just isn't. The only way it could have been more ridiculous is if he'd had a talkbacker yelling "Plant!" a lot. Yes, go on, you know you want to.)
When greeted with a massive success so early on, I've noticed a lot of filmmakers begin to believe their own hype. MNS's fingers-in-ears approach to criticism seems to fuel this. A part of me believes this is the last film both written and directed by him that we'll see for a very long time, maybe forever. And yes, I'm reading the AIRBENDER stories alongside everyone else, but I can't picture anyone giving him a budget after this film.
Funnily enough, I actually think this is designed as a slow-burn comeback film. From the way he approaches the subject matter, it seems as if he really believes this -- or something very similar -- will happen within the next few years. It feels a little like it's supposed to eventually be a "See? He was right all along!" forcing us to re-evaluate our opinions on the man. (Of course, most of us will be walking backwards and committing suicide at this point, so it hardly matters.) Then, presumably, that will force us to re-evaluate his prediction from LADY IN THE WALKER: that he will one day be considered a man with world-changing talent.
It's speculation, of course, but if I'm right, it makes this utter disaster of a film even sadder than it was to sit through.
Peace out,
Latauro
AICNDownunder@hotmail.com
Yeeeesh. So far, I’ve seen some radically different reactions to this. Jeff Wells compared it to THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, while David Poland said it felt like watching someone’s career end before your eyes.
Let’s take another reader review, this one from a new semi-frequent overseas contributor, TheNorthlander:
Hey guys, The Northlander here.
Thought I'd send in my thoughts on M. Night Shyamalan's THE HAPPENING.
Now, Night is a guy I despite myself have immense respect for as a filmmaker. When I first saw THE SIXTH SENSE in theaters I was blown away by it and wanted to immediately go back into the theater and rewatch it again. I love that film. I love the way it makes you think it's a Supernatural Thriller/Psychological Horror while it really is a touching Drama but you don't see it before the second viewing. I've heard somewhere that it wasn't until like the 18th or something draft of the screenplay that it was even decided that Bruce Willis' character would be... you know.
I can't help to think that Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy, perhaps the most brilliant producer team of the past 25 years, had something to do with THE SIXTH SENSE's amazingness though.
I wish they'd have kept working with Night.
UNBREAKABLE... I understand why comic book geeks like it, and it deserves its spot in my DVD collection. Still, I've always felt like the problem with UNBREAKABLE is the same as the problem with every movie Night has made since SENSE; they're Gimmick Movies, and kinda pretentious.
But you all know this, you've seen them for yourselves, and the question on everybody's mind is: Is THE HAPPENING a change in this trend?
Well. It's not that bad. This is not THE VILLAGE. I haven't seen LADY IN THE WATER, it's the only one I haven't, but from what I've heard of it I don't think it's that either. It feels related to SIGNS in a lot of ways, and could be thought of as a companion piece. But I've always thought SIGNS failed where it tried to tell a story about a priest who lost faith but regained it through finding evidence of God's existance. That, if you think about it, really doesn't make any sense if the whole point of faith is to believe and not to know.
THE HAPPENING doesn't make that mistake. Like SIGNS, you can really get a sense of NIght's personal beliefs filter through the characters' dialogue and the theme of the story. In this case though it's more his idea about people instead of religion.
I can't say I always share his beliefs on a personal level but I respect the man for trying to say something with a story. The guy is a storyteller, no doubt. In THE HAPPENING, like with SIGNS, if you share his faith you'll probably like the story more and that's kind of the problem.
I don't mind films that explore a religious belief I don't share personally, but a story like that needs to invite the rest of the world. It could be a Han Solo character, a sceptic who says what the non-believers think, or it could be anything really to counterpoint the preaching. SIGNS didn't do that properly for me, but THE HAPPENING sort of did, I think.
So, in short, that's why I think it succeeds where SIGNS didn't.
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There's a point towards the end where the news broadcaster interviews some scientest who explains to the public what's been going on, and he says he thinks the reason this only happens in the northeast is because it's just the first sign of something larger to come. The interviewer cuts him off and says, if it was happening globally he might feel inclined to believe him, but since it was only in the northeast of the US he thinks the government is behind it or something. Like he makes up excuses for himself to not have to believe the end is coming. Shuts his eyes to it, sort of.
There are a few scenes like that in the film that speaks directly to the viewer, and that feel like Night's commentary on the human race and how we think. They're not completely on the nose, and in a way they sort of make the story more interesting in a Rod Serling kind of way and that's cool. I like that.
There are also at least one scene that's really suspenseful, the one I'm thinking about is where the fruit cup lady goes bananas. That was cool.
There are also a lot of shortcomings, like it's not really graphic enough sometimes. You see a harvester roll over a guy and there's not a drop of blood. This is the same movie where a dude shoots himself in the forehead, drops to the ground, and after a few seconds there's a beautifully gross squirt from the hole in his head. Then a pause. Then one last squirt. That was nice. The harvester... should have been more graphic or shouldn't have been there at all maybe. But that's my opinion.
That's about it.
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To summarize: Night Shyamalan is a really good director. I know that. He should just do something other than what he's doing, that's all. Maybe he should direct someone else's screenplay. Maybe he should save his own stories and write them as novels instead, or let someone else shoot them. Maybe he should get Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy to work with him again. Maybe he should re-write his screenplays 18 more times before shooting them and find that special thing to change and flip the story on its head. Maybe, they should let him make a miniseries or some Twin Peaks thing instead of feature films.
THE HAPPENING is an okay film, but as okay as it is, it still runs on the same gimmick as his other stuff, and after almost ten years I think it's safe to say that whatever it is he's trying to do - it's not working. Unless you feel "okay" is good enough.
Like I said in the beginning of this, I do have immense respect for M. Night Shyamalan as a filmmaker and I KNOW that he can do better than this.
He's just trying so damn hard to be really good that he forgets to be entertaining and interesting so his movies come off feeling kinda pretentious unfortunately. THE HAPPENING, as "Not That Bad" as it is, it's not that awesomely great either exactly. Go see THE MIST instead.
Well, that's about it. Oh yeah - and Wahlberg isn't as bad as is rumored all the time, but John Leguizamo is fucking brilliant all the way through. I don't think I've seen him pull off a performance that well before.
Until next time, this is TheNorthlander wondering if the plant monster thing from THE THING FROM ANOTHER PLANET is related to the Audrey plant.
It's nature so we'll never know...
And now one of TheNorthlander’s fellow countrymen with his take on the film:
Hi Harry and the AICN crew –
I just got home from watching Shyamalan's "The Happening" on its release here in Sweden, and I understand it comes out on Friday in the US and most other places. So, I thought I'd send you a review in case you want to run it. I went into this film thinking, based on the trailers, that whatever happens, however bad or good it is, at least it'll be interesting.
I'll cut to the chase:
I thought it was OK. The best thing about the film is the idea, and the worst thing is some of the execution. The best ranges from mediocre to awkward to beautiful to great. The film's opening 10 minutes are just like Harry described in his script review a while back. Brutal, fast, and nasty. A great opening. We are in the middle of what people think is a terrorist attack, and people are dying (killing themselves) everywhere. The most difficult part of the film for me were the next 20-30 minutes. The setting up of the characters is the weakest part of the whole film, and it doesn't do uneven actors like Mark Wahlberg and Zooey Deschanel any favors. That whole segment seemed very stilted, very controlled. What works in a quiet film like Unbreakable or Sixth Sense doesn't work here at all, because you can feel the words being scripted, the actors being moved around. Basically, I became aware of Shyamalan's hand forcing information upon me, and honestly I was hoping it would get better. And it does to some degree. There will be many that disagree, but I got accustomed to Wahlberg's odd characterization after a while, and both he and Deschanel became real characters halfway through the movie. Overall, though, this movie will get criticized for its acting, and it's unfortunate because I don't think it's the actors who are to blame here. John Leguizamo is the best of the bunch but that's not saying much.
So what worked? Well, as I mentioned, the opening, and James Newton-Howard's score is poetically fatalistic, but with that streak of romance. There are some really effective disturbing scenes, and my favorite part of the movie is in the last third of the film. It's probably the most out of place part of the story, but it gripped me. There was some nice and thoughtful symbolism, but in general, I wouldn't call it a scary or a frightening film. The biggest problem, from a popcorn-munching audience point of view, is that it's what I would call a 'message' film that constantly has its message posted on the screen. The personal story in "The Happening" isn't strong enough or engaging enough to begin with, so it takes a lot of effort to get invested in the movie (despite the 'shock' opening). The "what if this happened" part of the film worked well, but the story of Mark and Zooey, the glue that's supposed to bind the movie together and make the message seem
something inevitable, was awkward. It seemed rehearsed. But I do want to stress that there are some beautiful and some funny scenes, along with the disturbing ones and the occasional jump scare, and while they held my attention from the half hour mark until the end, they're not enough to make me feel like it's a movie that desperately needs to be seen again. Actually, thinking about it, it almost feels like a Paul Greengrass 'Bourne' or 'United 93' (more visceral) approach might have suited the script better. At least in the human story aspect.
I don't want to give away any spoilers, and I don't think I've mentioned anything that's not in the trailers (which, I was happy to see, have taken most of the memorable shots from the beginning of the film). I don't know how I've come across in my ramblings, but regardless, I came away from the movie satisfied, but far from wowed. We have high expectations when it comes to M. Night Shyamalan's movies (and he plays his part in hyping them up) but if this would have been his first film, I think we would be looking at it very differently. We might even think it's a great little art/independent sci-fi suspense film. And like I mentioned in the beginning, I thought it was interesting, and fairly entertaining. But seeing as how reviews are always intensely subjective, it's a film I'd recommend anyone to watch at some point, but don't go out of your way to see it now. Maybe catch a matinée. Something where you don't feel like you've wasted a ton of money,
because I do have a sneaking suspicion that this movie will have fewer defenders than 'Signs' and 'The Village'.
It's a far cry from perfect, and falls short of good. But I hope you enjoy it anyway. I did.
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I hate the disappointed tone in so many of these reviews. That’s such a drag. There’s nothing worse than reading the reaction of someone who really wanted to like a film, but just didn’t. That sort of heartbreak is becoming Shyamalan’s specialty, which is verrrry dangerous for a filmmaker.
Check this one:
Hi there,I don't know if you've received tons of these already, but if its of any use - feel free to publish this on your site.
So I saw The Happening recently. First, let me state I am a fan of M. Night's work. I thought Unbreakable was his best (and is one of my fave movies altogether), Sixth Sense was great, The Signs were very good and the Village and Lady in the water were flawed but interesting and enjoyable.Anyway, that is not important. Important is that The Happening is like it could've been made by anyone else but M. Night. If one was to disregard the mystery opening and the trailers, which are, granted, quite Shymalanian, the movie itself just... isn't. The inspired and innovative shots - are gone. Everything is directed by the book, like it could've been done by anyone.
Acting, which was perhaps never THE best aspect of Shymalan's movies but was always decent - here is truly awful. Very early on it gets evident acting is just way... something. Over the top, too weird, take a pick. That includes Mark Wahlberg who is, in reality, a decent actor. But here i seriously expected to see an explanation in the movie itself - why does everyone act so ...a bit off. That maybe bad acting is a part of the premise of the movie. But it is not.Maybe it's the dialogues, as there's a lot of cringe worthy lazy ass copouts and just lazy writing lines... A LOT of them. Much more than in other Shymalan's movies. As if he was writing it to get it over with. There's john Leguizamo's characther which is almost superfluous to the whole thing, they really could've went with a complete unknown for that role.
And then...there's the conceptual level of the screenplay. You know how in most movies there's the three act structure to the screenplay? The setup, the confrontation and the problem? Well, here it's more like we get the setup... and then the movie ends. That's it. Characters don't get involved in anything. They just go around...as stuff happens around them... they're unimportant, faceless, they're not part of even the smallest bit of the plot. And while that might be cool in some movies, here you don't get anything else but the already very weak plot. There's very, very little to hang onto here.On top of everything, production values are visibly lower this time around. While before Shymalan's movies could boast some nice images, expensive settings etc - the happening looks as if it was shot for a fraction of the budget Signs were made with. 90% of the movie we have people travelling on the road or in the fields... plus Wahlberg isn't what you might call an A list 20 million per play actor.
Anyway, there's very little to recommend here. I guess some of the most hardcore Shymalan's fans might be pleased but this time he went too far. I just didn't see any passion of his in this movie. Did someone put a gun to his head to make this?
Kind regards,
John Doe, Jr.
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mr_X. its not happening!
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The dance of the giant hogweed
Mighty hogweed is avenged.
Human bodies soon will know our anger.
Kill them with your hogweed hairs
Heracleum mantegazziani
Giant hogweed lives
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Not M. Night's career, someone stick a fork in this guy.
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The dance of the giant hogweed
Mighty hogweed is avenged.
Human bodies soon will know our anger.
Kill them with your hogweed hairs
Heracleum mantegazziani
Giant hogweed lives
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To keep it brief, this movie can be liken to the gun you have pointed to your head JAM when you squeeze the trigger while the zombies as feasting on your legs. If you ever felt like taking a dump during a movie while you've managed to hold out for others (excluding BLADE 3), this one is it.
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I'm pretty much the only person I know who likes his movies. My friends make a point to remind me how shit they think he is. There's a lot of people (and it's their right) who hate his work, don't get him or just don't like his style. I dunno. I'm going to check it out for myself.
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as in Not Even On Pirate Disc. just avoid this film. yes, it is THAT bad.
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can it?
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They don't know they're dead!
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This movie will go down faster than a tower in New York.
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I opted not to see "Lady in the Water" after the cinematic abortion that was "The Village." I was going to give Night another shot with "The Happening" but after reading these reviews I don't think I can bring myself to see it. I feel bad for the guy, to be honest.
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Although I hate agreeing with someone with the handle "mrbong," I have to say he's absolutely correct. I'm not even willing to waste bandwidth downloading anything from this fucking hack.
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...his talent.
I hope the movie is not as bad as I am hearing, but I do think he really has lost all his skill -
commit the ultimate film sins. I didn't hate them. I didn't love them. They just truely bore and patronise the audience to death.
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...Unbreakable. All his other films I found boring. But I do like the look of this one.
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Just throwing that out there.
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Jun 12, 2008 6:35:23 AM CDT
Nowhere near as bad as people are suggesting... Slight Spoilers.
by joey17
I honestly think the ending of this movie is highly, highly critical. And to me, resonating.
Yes, the script was weak. Yes, his directing has plummeted to the depths of Sodom (Surprisingly it also looks like Tak Fujimoto, a man who was the strength of the 6th Sensem, seems to not care). Yes, Whalberg sounds like Arnie with an American accent. But the criticised subject matter of the "its the plants!" is not terrible. We all (maybe) believe in Global Warming, yet nature turning its back on us seems only believable if we are to blame.
To me, this film says alot for the human race - We only care about the earth when it seems to not care about us.
If only he had pulled it off...
My major gripe with his directing is his poor, poor choice of what we see. The first shot of the film shows someone blatantly killing themselves. Suddenly all tension is removed from any scene after (even though he hides it in other various scenes). It made the film kitsch and broke the one rule of cinema tension - don't open the fucking door! -
Has now the coolest name.
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Hence the reasons some people hate the movie--too many coincidences. If you have faith, it all makes sense. If you don't, it's luck, but there's so darned much that in a movie, where we know it's fake anyway, that many coincidences just seems like lazy writing.
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That´s a great name. Anyway, Shyamalan can be a bad writer and a bad actor, but he is a damn good director.
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I saw this trailered on UK TV and unlike every trailer I've ever seen, this had the director himself telling us how great the film was. Is this guy obsessed with his own sense of deluded self-worth or what? Can someone please spoil this so I don't have to worry about seeing it? Plants make people commit suicide? Really?
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I dont have fatih but i still love that movie.
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Ýou should watch Hitchcock´s trailers.
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Poo Poo on him.
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Touche, although I think Hitchcock had a better track record.
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There is no suspense of fear in the whole movie because we are not dealing with zombies or any external threat that can create fear on screen. We only wait for the characters to STAND STILL..and then that means there gonna kill themselves. So I'm sure you'll all be in mega suspense of people ABOUT TO STAND STILL!! Anyone could see just from common sense that this concept could never form the structure of a horror/suspense.
If Night was smart he would try and build the suspense from humans causing threat to other humans (as was done in War of The Worlds). He tried to do this with the old lady at the end, but failed so so hard. I hated this movie with a passion. *beep* M Night. -
yes, i heard there's no m. night cameo in this film-- i guess miracles can happen... hey movie fans, check out this great new blog on blogspot. it's called thebitterproducer. spread the word!
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Maybe in an alternate reality. I have seen nothing which is that impressive to suggest he is a decent actor. THat Oscar was a crock of shit, he swears a lot! Wow when is Samuel L gonna get his oscar nod?
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And it sounds like that is the movie The Happening wanted to be. I feel like after reading those reviews, Dr. Steve Brule and the cast (and Director) of the Happening come on screen and talk to the audience about global warming and what you can do to prevent it.
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and regarding "Form is temporary, Class is permanent"- How do we know that the 6th sense wasn't the form and his post unbreakable output is his true class?
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I like this guy's reviews
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He was a flash in the pan. He had a couple of good movies (probably because of the producers) and the rest of his work has been crap. When will you people wake up and realize he is a one-trick pony?
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Boxing match. Two men enter, one man leaves. Both men should stop making movies.
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All the arogance aside, M. Night Shyamalan may have "Risked His Career on a Fairy Tale" but he's certainly betting it on a Happening. I must say I'm intrigued by this one. He's a good writer... let me emphasize that again... he's a good WRITER... but his directing has always left a little to be desired. Clearly "The Sixth Sense" was phenominal. The stilted camera work and stoic acting worked again in "Unbreakable" but after a while the same crap needs to change. Mix it up. If he's a self-described Spielberg, perhaps he should take some lessons. "Jaws" is nothing like "Raiders" is nothing like "Schindler's List" is nothing like "Minority Report". (yes, there are similarities, but that's another rant altogether.) Night needs to mix things up, or, if he's stretched himself to the limit, focus on EITHER his writing or his directing. But he needs to improve on both fronts. The film business, as I understand it, moves pretty quickly. He needs some time to rework some drafts of his screenplays. He needs time to learn a different sense of camera to vary his style. He needs to improve his work with his actors and explore characters, breathe life into them and explore more deeply than the written word (which goes pretty deep to begin with), and take characters on a journey rather than just gradually revealing them. He is very good at what he does, but he needs a chance to improve. This may not be it. He, unfortunately, may not get another (unless this makes some money, which most of his stuff does). But if he adds the right weapons to his arsonal, he could someday soon be a force to be reckoned with... and even live up to his own hype.
Robert McKee described a hack as someone who writes what sells rather than what's in your heart. What was in Night's heart, as I understand it, was "Lady in the Water". That worked as a story, (it really is a good, old-fashioned Grimm-style fairy tale) but would have been a bit better as a movie with a few more drafts. Now, it seems, he's back to writing what he hopes will sell... which is admirable to an extent, as he needs a comeback. But he needs a "Sixth Sense"-like comeback. Something that's from his heart. Something that he wants to see. Something a little more out of his head that we, the audience can sit back and watch without over-thinking. Mr. Shyamalan's not a hack, or hasn't been, but is risking becoming one staying with his heady-psychological-thriller-with-a-twist-ending-style. He's capable of so much more. Bet on yourself, Night. Learn, expand, and when you get back, pour your heart out and blow us away! -
u know its true
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Not that I would have see this obvious piece of shit, regardless, but I feel vindicated.
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You need to do it right my friend. PLANTS!!!!!!!!
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Return of the Rosie.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Sixth Sense wasn't even that great but the only one I'd watch again. If there was nothing better on TV. Which there usually is. I saw Unbreakable, Signs and The Village at the cinema and borrowed a friends DVD of Lady. Each time I've come away a little less satisfied.
The Happening seems to have had a really big marketing push over here in the UK but I just can't get excited over "yet another movie with a twist from the guy behind Sixth Sense".
All MNS films feel the same. Devoid of passion. There isn't a moment in any of the films where I've held my breathe or felt my pulse quicken. Some of the characters have been emotive - I'm thinking of the 2 kids in SS and Unbreakable - but there has never been a tear or a cheer raised by any of the leads. I can't help but think that MNS wants to see himself in his deep stalwart heroes but knows that he is in fact much more like his simple and confused kids.
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is just a publicity stunt for this movie?
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'Boogie Nights', 'Three Kings'... any time he attempts a character with an IQ over 100, it's cringe-worthy.
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I'm not going to see this movie because—like most people here—I know the twist and I really don't trust M. Night to pull it off with any amount of believability. But the thing I think is curious is the ads I keep seeing on teevee all proclaim this as his "first rated R movie". Now I know every talkback for every proposed movie has someone demanding the movie be a "hard R" because they want blood and tits in their Rainbow Brite re-imagining, but do most people really care what a film like this is going to be rated? I'm sure the film has earned the rating—it's no doubt got some gore (read the review above siting the spurting head wound) and the idea that everyone is killing themselves would be seen by the MPAA as too much for kids. (And it probably is.) But, really, that's how you're going to get us into the movie house? The best hook you've got is the rating?
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Speed Racer is actually the perfect summer movie. And at the very least you can say the Wachowskis tried to do something different. Shaymalan seems convinced that most people would be content watching paint dry on a humid day.
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Jun 12, 2008 8:31:24 AM CDT
Watch Night's filmography in reverse order of release...
by cloaker cobra
...and you'll see a remarkably talented filmmaker on the rise, as my friend also says about Tarantino.
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He utterly detests them in fact he despises them. He thinks they are weak. he thinks that they flip flop. One minute they hate his work. then one minute. they say seem to like it a little better. the more they see his films the more they like them. He thinks that critics are disengenous. There was interview with him and the man who wrote it said that beneath the sunny outlook is a granite exterior. Ie he is tough as hell.
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Yeah
Can you feel it baby
I can too
Come on swing it [4 times]
1-2-3 - Now we come to the pay off
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(Chorus)
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Body is healthy
My rhymes make me wealthy
And the Funky Bunch helps me
To bring you a show with no intoxication
Come on feel the vibration
Yeah
Can you feel it baby
I can too
(Chorus)
Now the time has come for you to get up
The rest had you fed up but Yo, I won't let up
On the rhythm and rhyme that's designed to
Make your behind move to what I'm inclinced to
Pure Hip Hop, no sell out
If you ain't in it to win it
Then get the hell out
I command you to dance
I wanna see motivation
Come on now feel the vibration
{Piano solo}
It's such a good vibration
Come on come on come on
It's such a sweet sensation
Feel it feel it
(Chorus)
{Piano - out}
It's such a good vibration
Come on come on come on
It's such a sweet sensation
Feel it feel it
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PLANTS FART
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Things like that makes those awards less and less important every single year, proving that it just needs some studio hype to someone to get one. I can't believe no other actor had better supporting work than Wahlberg that year. To get and award nod because you play a loud and full mouthed guy who has nothing more to say is ridiculous. BTW, The Happening looks like a X-Files episode.
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Unbreakable is a narcolepsy inducer. It took me four sittings to get through the entire thing. Signs, however, kept me revited throughout. Tremendous movie. I couldn't stand The Village and Lady in the Water. The Happening looks promising.
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before your salad eats you!
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Jun 12, 2008 9:03:11 AM CDT
'That, if you think about it, really doesn't make any sense if t
by sidburnd1
Um..not really. Faith can be affirmed with evidence from nature, etc.
I loved all of his films, except lady in the water which I will not see, and that goes for the happening too. I guess that makes me a Shamaylan apologist? Anyway I can't wait to see the happening on rifftrax in a year or two!
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Great acting. Good, slow build. It was the perfect superhero film at a time when there was no decent superhero movies. The only thing that sucks was the stupid "where are they now" summary at the end. That was lame and surely must have been forced onto MNS?
I'm sick of everyone talking about the Sixth Sense. Every review or talkbacker comment is so predictable. "He has been making progressively worse films since the Sixth Sense"...SHUT UP! Everyone has heard it a thousand times and it is simply not true. SS, Unbreakable and Signs were good movies that people enjoyed in the cinema. These three films received positive reviews, all over 60% at RottenTomatoes. -
And SIGNS was belly-laughing horrible. All it needed was gophers and Monkey Boy.
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But we communicate with each other via molested corn fields and baby monitors.And we are exhibitionists.
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I would not have seen "Lady in the Water" and thought I had just seen the work of a film maker with a lot of potential. I would have thought I had just seen a pretentious film school student given a budget way beyond his abilities. That's a flippin' horrible movie, in almost every way--not to mention the only interesting character was the "bad" guy--ergo, the critic. Everybody else was bad or meh, and M. Night's cameo was cringe-inducing, every moment he was on screen. I took the Village with a grain of salt and, with effort, managed to enjoy it. But Lady in the Water? I'd almost rather sit and watch some Uwe Boll. At least there's likely to be some boobs.Seriously, this looks terrible. I will probably catch in on DVD, via Netflix, just to see how horrible it actually is. M. Night is capable of some incredible work, and had the potential to be the next Spielberg or Hitchcock--and if he could just get over his own narcissism and solipsism (egotism doesn't begin to describe the M. Night universe of Me Me Me and Myself!), he could make some great films.
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Just don't drink the water!!!!!
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Is Shylammydingdong sucking his own dick... AGAIN ...
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...just off-screen. He 'cast' himself as the character texting his girlfriend throughout. Heh.
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and now he's rich and famous, ain't Amerika great ???
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I guessed that movie's ending during the trailer.. THE FUCKING TRAILER!!!
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style for the big climactic showdown between flora and fauna, then I'm not interested. From all those reviews, I never sensed a true conclusion to this movie.
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QUICK, hand that Roundup!! How pathetic, how sad... The plants are killing us, ~sigh~
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Signs was the first movie to show what was going to start going wrong with M. Night's movies. Aliens coming to our planet to kidnap people (with a natural anesthetic gas they emit from their wrists) . . . they are coming to a planet (via interstellar travel) that is 3/4ths water . . . and water kills them . . . and they wander around naked. And the aliens looks comical. It was silly, and needed work--but M. Night had become too good to take input on such foolishness, or give the script another pass with some question marks addressed.
He also cast himself in a critical roll that required better acting than he had to give it. I looked past it, because of 6th Sense and Unbreakable, but those things--especially the anemic aliens, being naked and yet killed by water--I mean, just a rev that gave them environmental suits that could be flustered by water would have been an improvement, and someone saying: "Hey, maybe someone else should play this role. There's a smaller cameo somewhere for you." Again, I liked The Village through sheer force of will and then despite my effort, M. Night spat on that goodwill with Lady In the Water (previous title: I Am a God and Everyone Else is Stupid. Worship Me, Filthy Swine!) . . . sigh. After first seeing The Sixth Sense, I had such high hopes. This guy is going to be one of the greats, I thought to myself. If this is where he's starting out, how much better is he going to get? I wondered.
Apparently, he wasn't going to get any better at all. In fact, he was going to go the other direction.
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he spirals... How low can he go ?? When will the money stop for his lameass scripts???
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You actually are M. Night Shamyalan! I should have known.
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and I liiiiiiikkkke him !! Yuch, get a clue !! He had maybe two good script ideas, and the rest have suckkeddd !!!!
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maybe he can just keep kissing his mirror all the time, telling himself what a genius he is ....
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When I heard it was called The Green Effect. Before the more pretentious "The Happening".The next M. Night Movie: "The Awesome Importanting". Then "The Annoying Self-Important Title". He'll be getting very meta by then.
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manufactured. With fully articulated mouth, and other naughty bits, so he can french-kiss himself and "make love to the most brilliant, important human being on the planet", in his words. True story.
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And Shyamalan never heard of Intelligent Design. (At least as applied to story telling."Wow! We just happen to have this book about UFOs written by some crazy Art Bell-wannabe. And everything in it is right! How convient!!!!"
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He just stands in front of his mirror allllll daaaayyy loooonggg ....
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Starring, written, produced, directed and catered by M NIGHT!fap fap fap fap FAP!!!!
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Shlammydingdong making out with a real doll Shlammy !!!
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Signs was rubbish, but I really liked the Village (I still don't understand the hate that film cops). It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
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disappear down the drain with this pathetic slop ????
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And he doesn't get my $10 either...
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THAT would be different .... NOT !!!
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>>"We know this because he keeps saying "science" and "scientific" a lot, words that are said a lot in films by characters who don't sound anything like scientists." So true. Just like with subjects: any subject with the word "science" in it isn't really a science (computer science, political science, etc.)
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And it's talking to me right now.
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He has the character keep repeating the word !!!
WHAT A HACK !!
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outside my window ???
IT'S A TREEEEEEE !!!
AHHHHHHHHHHH !! (I'm soooo scared)
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...We band together and hound MNS right out of the business! Get up geeks... we have work to do!
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
The grass is killing us !!!!!!!!!!
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Let's ride his sorry ass out of town, for EVER !!!!
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He nails SugarTits to the tree in SIGNS. He nails ScienceBoy's wife via cellphone in THE FAPPENNING. And he likes to play doctor.Discuss.
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I guess Night wants to do his films like he does. In that sense he is a European Auteur, and I bless him for that.
Somewhere during the film I had a feeling like with the french classic "Choses de la vie" - which most talkbackers would never watch or like - and it actualy ends in Paris' royal gardens, of all places. Sure, the acting is stilted, the characters are a few degrees off from the usual boring Bay-Awesome, no big stars to like (?) and especialy Leguizamo is creepy. But thats why he is there. Night wants to set off people, with strange deaths all around you and a disfunctional family.
I mostly agree with Mr. H's review, but would rate it higher.
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If Shyamalan had directed Scott Smith's "The Ruins" rather than this? I'm thinking that might have been a pretty cool matchup.
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Just ... talk... like... William ...Shatner
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Run Like Hell!!!!
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talk. THAT would be different. LOTR spoiled the talking tree thing. BUT talking grass, that would be scaaaaarrrryyyy !!!
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how bad does one of his movies have to suck until everybody quits showing up???
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how lame-ass he has gotten. People were saying he was great when Signs came out. Now they realize that movie actually sucked rocks.
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actually put up with ??? How friggin' bad does one of his movies have to be, before the morons stop showing up at the boxoffice??
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AHHHHHHH!!!!
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M. Night's films will stop when they stop making money at all....see the problem is, he doesn't spend very much cause everyone is just standing around outside. When your antagonist is some plants, that don't move. You save the studio money. They like that.
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"The "scares" are more comical than frightening, the characters are, without exception, unlikable".
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duhhhh
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ahhhhhhhhh !!! The flowers are trying to kill me !!!!!
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I wish I could retire like that at such an early age :(
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TAKE THAT!!!!
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It's the weeds giving off poison gassssss, ahhhhhhh !!!
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Al Gore will probably pay people to go see this piece of crap !!!
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Begonias? Is that it? Is that why the plants have it in for us? And what about rose bushes? Are they giving off toxic perfume???
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Should we use birds, or trees?? Hmmmm, trees are pretty scary. "The Trees" That's got a nice ring to it. Hmmmmmm ...
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"It's the plants!" too? i didn't see it.
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Just one site, yes, but still barely above the Mendoza Line.
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it sucked rocks through a flavor straw.
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When people at the studio should have more power to reign in the director. He's the perfect example of when total creative control is actually a mistake.
I hate saying it because 99.9% of the time I have the opposite opinion.
Shamalama needs to be slapped down, and the studio should get a final cut on his movies.
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That this guy has only ever made one decent film,and it wasn`t the Sixth fxckin Sense?
Go back and watch that film again and tell me it`s not the most over-rated pile of dog links youv`e ever seen?
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"to go to the salad bar."
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that this pile of shit is the final nail in the coffin of his so-called career !!!
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marcia gay harden and the last five minutes (poor execution and the music from gladiator) pretty much ruined that movie for me.
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We get the assholes who keep fucking over Ridley Scott, and get them with Shamalama.
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all over again, but not so funny this time ...
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...then "The Passion II" would be the perfect vehicle for him. Of course, it would be about Shyamalan rather than Jesus, but it already is so in his mind, so that wouldn't be a problem. He could play himself, since he has proven his excellent acting skills many times.
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He already did the savior of mankind story with himself in the lead role.
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Jun 12, 2008 11:50:04 AM CDT
Loved his first 3 movies, thought they were pretty much awesome.
by novaman5000
Sixth Sense is a classic for a reason. Unbreakable was slow, but still engaging, and Signs I just found to be immensely satisfying and a great twist on the alien invasion genre by keeping it personal.
The village was where things started to go downhill. I think part of the problem was that he lost the supernatural edge. The movie pretended to have one for a while, but it played it's hand way to earn and showed that the monsters were fake, which totally ruined the suspense of the rest of the flick. There were some solid sequences, though. The film overall had some great production values, but it couldn't save an overall weak story and the twist I guessed in the first 20 minutes.
Lady and the Water had the same production values but for a story about magic, there was NONE in it. It was boring, heavyhanded and obvious. Again, flashes of greatness can not save it.
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and it's freaking me out!
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I didn't think it was as good as his other films (tho the Village stank), but I did enjoy it.
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nothing scary happens, nothing interesting, nothing worthwh watching ...
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Critics liked his first 3 (sixth sense highest rated, followed by signs, followed by unbreakable)... Things just went downhill from there. The happening is his worst rated film at 17%. A shame. What are you doing to yourself, M. Night??
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I have friends who are usually so critical of films who totally dug that movie, while i just could not get into it.
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And I think that's ironic. Spoiled vegetables should love it! (I know, tomatoes are technically fruit.)
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only a true maschocist could sit through that shit. Ohhhh, hurt me some more Shlammy !!!
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The amount of pleasure you're taking from his failure is almost criminal! Keep it in your pants!
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He's so full of himself, such a pretentious IDIOT !!! Who could resist?? look at all the Talkbackers who think he SUCKS !!!
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That self absorbed, delusional monologue, "you people should kiss my brown ass for making such wonderful movies" Ahahhhahahhhah !! He's gone off the deep end !!!!
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wouldn't really hold up in a court of law. Being a jackass is kind of a pre-requisite to being a talkbacker... Hell hath no minor fury like a bored geek at work.
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Shlammydingdong soundalikes yet !! Shalamidingmydong, Sammysuckadingdong, Swammysuckdong ...
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... even a caveman could understand it.
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you will like signs. I'm not religious AT ALL and I still liked it. I think it's a bit shallow to think that if you disagree with a films message, you can't appreciate it as a film. Life and Movies are not the same thing. It's not hard to separate that for most of us.
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It fascinates me that so many people keep saying "I think MNS has a lot of talent, but..." NO he doesn't! "The Sixth Sense" was a fluke of a film. He so very luckily got all things right and hit big, but he will never capture that magic again. MNS is a hack writer and director with no talent and should be forced out of film and into local commercials. I can go on and on but we all get the point.
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It's a SIGN you might be retarded if you thought that was a good flick ....
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to bring up Hitchcock's trailers, in comparison with M Night's?? Hitchcock's were witty and Hitch's dry delivery almost undersold the movie. Hitchcock deserved the title Master Of Suspense. M Night is more and more looking like the Master Of Meh.
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It's 74% on RT. I'm not the only one who liked the film.
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That grab you and eat you? That would be cool ...
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an M Night Shyamalan movie with a decent and unique premise that is piss poorly executed and condescending or a Uwe Boll movie that takes a pre-existing IP that is beloved and completely farks it up? I'm not being argumentative, I'm taking a poll. I feel like with Boll I have no expectations except for it to suck, so sitting through one of his monstrosities might not be as bad. With MNS I want it to do well so when it inevitably doesn't, I get upset, pissed off, sad, then pissed off again and then I start asking useless poll questions.
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flaming red hot pokers jammed into my eye sockets ....
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I'd rather go see a Brett Ratner film.
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as 2 sides of the same coin. Both are far less talented than they believe they are. And they both have their apologists. Same goes with Bay.And I'm going to mention gophers and Monkey Boy for completeness.Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.
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I should have bit my tongue, now all these delusional fans of Ratner are going to come of the woodwork. Just kidding guys, can't for "The Incredible Shrinking Man"!
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Have you ever seen a Uwe Boll apologist? Ever? I think you're making it up. Say what you want about M. Night, but to put him on the same level as Boll requires logic twisting of such epic proportions that I'm surprised you didn't hurt yourself
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apparently it can.
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Yes, I have met Boll apologists. "It's just a fun movie. Yes it dumb but I enjoyed it." Just like a Bay apologist. And although they may defer in degree I stand by my assertion they don't differ in kind. Neither one is as talented as think think they are. No problem with logic there.
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I'm going to kill someone. "Signs" wasn't about an alien invasion you morons. Over analyzing movies like this is really retarded. "Signs" was the story of a family in crisis both internally and externally (but more the former). It's also creepy, tense, funny, thrilling well-acted and is M. Night's best movie.
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If you find yourself compelled to apologize for any of Shlammydingdong's movies, you're retarded !!
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IMO, SIGNS is the epitome of what’s wrong with M Night’s “storytelling.” Shyamalan’s shtick is to devise a gimmick to wrap a story around. There’s nothing wrong with that if it’s done well. It’s what he does. It’s all he does.
SIGNS fails because both the gimmick and the story around the gimmick fail. The gimmick is groan-inducingly silly and the story is lazy and contrived. I can hear God saying “Sorry ‘bout the wife, but I was really afraid I was going to lose you to Satan. Just remember that my son Jesus was nailed to a tree too and look how well he’s done. Plus your brother really wanted to use that bat again. SWING AWAY!!!!!”YMMV
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The Sucks Sense. Unwatchable. The Village Idiots. Signs (that this movie sucks). The lady in the Toliet. The Un-Happening.
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With this latest cinematic abortion M. Egotistical Shamalamadingdon's descent into direct to DVD quality cinema will be complete.
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I don't understand, Moriarty, why does the disappointed tone surprise you? The guy has made exactly one watchable film many years ago. It's like expresseing surprise that the latest Uwe Boll film was not well regarded. MNS is at the very least narcissistic and his inability to see that his ideas just aren't that great is laughable. Anyway, doesn't this just rip off Stephen King's The Cell?
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I still think The Village is M. Night's only good movie. Unbreakable had potential, but was horribly wasted... and I may be the only person on earth who hated The Sixth Sense (I had it figured out in the first 5 minutes). Signs was just bad storytelling and Lady in the Water was an exercise in cinematic masturbation. I think I'll just wait for the Blu-Ray and Netflix it.
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That should have been "The Crapening". Thank You, whoever you are ...
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I liked UNBREAKABLE but it felt like it had an ACT I followed by extended ACTS IIa and IIb. I assume this is because UNBREAKABLE was inteneded to be the opening chapter of a larger story.
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This color is wrong, this color is not permitted, this color blahdey bladehy Freakin' BLAH !!!
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fap fap fap FFAAAAPPPP!!!!!
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Ok, for all of us that don't have the need to analysis the deeper meaning of bad films, Signs is about a Alien Invasion, or its about M. Knight Salame’s attempt to drag a half hour twilight zone episode into a 2 hour movie.
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Signs that you wasted $10 on a freakin' lameass Movie !!!!
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1 Big twisty smash hit and he can't possibly keep it up! I understand why he thinks the sun shines outa his own A'hole! he did the biggest boxoffice in the world EVER! and has managed to garner a huge following but aint it about time The loyalty stopped and the Insane Fans and M (what's it stand for?) Night himself admit his later effort are utter dogshit!I will see this though for comedy value.
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Muh Genius, which is un-limited by mortals ...
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War of the World's was tedious. And every character in that movie was unlikable. Every one. It apparently succeeded on one level: I had a nightmare about tripods destroying the world. Which is unusual for me, to have a movie effect me enough that I have a dream about it. But I found the movie itself tedious and the characters unlikable and the scares more or less "meh". But I liked the sets and the cinematagrophy, so I guess that's what got to me.
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Jun 12, 2008 1:56:33 PM CDT
To the jerkoff saying Signs isn't about an alien invasion
by hawaiian organ donor
That's like saying the Iraq War wasn't about oil.Of course it's about an invasion. Just because laser beams aren't shown obliterating the White House doesn't mean it's not a full on invasion.M. Twilight goes to great lengths to tell us about lights above every big city on the planet.Just like that Darabont script for Indy, the more I think about Signs, the angrier I get.
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Expensive Twilight Zone episodes, but Twilight Zone episodes just the same. His films have more padding than a skinny man in a Santa suit.
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M. Night directs the Simpson's Movie. Now, that would be a match up. Ugh.
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I just looked at Uwe Boll's filmography and I don't know anyone who likes any of that shit. My apologies. (For some reason I thought he did the first AvP.)
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. . . recently. Light on the effects, often stilted dialog, often slow moving. But even these made-for-TV vignettes from the 60s are more interesting and better made than Lady in the Water. I'd watch a season or two of Twilight Zones before heading back to that self-absorbed piece of M. Night masturbation.
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Unfortunately he's the new NEW Speilberg and not the old Speilberg. I miss the old Speilberg.
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With no talent. It's amazing he can get this stuff off the ground, into theaters and onto DVD. And he did it without making some pretty good movies first--he's always made crappy movies. Although, in fairness, his crappy movies aren't thinly veiled paeans to the greatness of Uwe Boll.
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He had that potential. But, he's blown it. Completely. And unless he finally gets humbled and has to spend a decade in the wilderness, I don't think he's going to get it back.
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first he's the new Hitchcock, now he's the new Spielberg, who will he be tomorrow ???
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not a single one was even close to being 'good'. They all SUCK !!
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this one will tank soooo deeply that no one will give him money for another piece of crap !!! Maybe this one is the ONE !!
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M. Night could have made this a thriller, if he had worked out with a molecular biologist or a virologist how a plant could evolve such a defense, and how that defense could jump species. They almost had it in 'Reign of Fire'. It wouldn't be dragons that killed us, it would be their retroviruses.
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Birds was good, yes, nature turns on mankind, yes yes, nature, hmmmm. I've got IT !! Yes, plants turn on mankind !! I AM Genius !!!
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No one gives a shit about your repetitive, stupid fuckin' opinions about The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, The Village or Lady in The Water! Be here now. Do not emulate or imitate Harry, et al. Just review The Happening, OK?!
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Jun 12, 2008 2:14:03 PM CDT
The Clips Of The Happening As Shown On Letterman, Were Horrible!
by media messiah
The acting was inexcusably bad...from Mark Wahlberg to his female co-star. I have to blame this on the actors yes, but the director also has to take blame as it is his job to make sure that he cast actors who can authentically deliver his lines and good performances, therein...or correct them, either the scripted dialogue or the actors when they don't bring forth the intended mood. Wahlberg's performance was embarrassing to say the least...and I don't like attacking people anymore really, but I'm telling the truth.
An actor depends on his director to spot their flaws and mistakes and to step in to correct them...either M. Night can't direct actors if they are not fully developed, or he is afraid to direct a star, hence he is allowing them to go without any real direction. You can get away with that when dealing with a truly great actor, if not however, you are taking a big risk...and in this case, Wahlberg's bad performance and that of his female co-star should have been spotted in the dailies and dealt with immediately. Why the studio didn't order a re-shoot on these scenes and why they gave them to Letterman, considering how bad they are, I will never know...but it will serve to only harm this film at the box office??? -
Jun 12, 2008 2:14:34 PM CDT
The notices for this film are coming in from the other side of p
by emeraldboy
and they arent good. They range from appalling to dreadful, irish Crime writer Declan Burke of the website crimealwayspays.com said it was one of the worst films he has seen in years.
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his frickin' sorryass movies !!! It's too EASY !! Bwwaawwaahhaah !! What a piece of crap !! Next !! What another piece of crapola !!!
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of his career called law of dimishing returns.
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May He Rest In Peace
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Yet from clips it's like he thought Mark Whalberg was David Schwimmer.
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Yes, Shlammy is rich, but he's a LOSER in the talent department.
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That is a really weird sentence because he directed one of the biggest stars of the 1990s. Bruce willis. there seemed to be real tension. there because all the reports suggested that night was a dictator. all the cast were very afraid of him. Haley joel osment.where is he these days?
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Jun 12, 2008 2:24:37 PM CDT
"it felt like watching someone's career end before your eyes."
by knuckleduster
I am so watching this.
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when was the last great fox film?
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someone to the nearest Men's room ...
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unjustified people not in Hollywood. Pathetic, really.
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I saw a squirrel dart into a busy street and get destroyed by a car. Squirrels live in trees. IT'S CRAPPENING!!!
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I'll wait for cable. If even then. But I'm enjoying everyone's take on M Night and his body of work.
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Shlammy film ?? Anybody ever see one that DIDN'T suck ???
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To being the next anything. Mr. I will not do movies in Hollywood, I will only do movies in my hometown. Yeah because Pennsylvania has SO much to offer. Also can anyone name ONE director who's made movie after movie based off of an original script they wrote (even though you can't really call M. Knights original, I bet whoever has the copyrights to the Twilight Zone series is digging through law books trying to figure out a way to sue his ass).
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making me want to KILL Shlammydingdong, AHHHUGGHHHGGHH !!!!
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Where doesn't he suck ??? Go, tell us where doesn't he SUCK ???
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Didn't he have killer grass in his last movie too?And in SIGNS and UNBREAKABLE it was water that was the proverbial kryptonite. I'm Sensing a Sign from Shyamalan. I guess his next movie will have another evil lawn mower.
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as protagonists, as dangerous, WOW now that's DEEP !!!!
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It was showing that bad things happened for a reason, in this case, the reason was to put the characters in a position to stay alive when the invasion happened. The water the water refused to drink, the phone call from the driver showing the father was happening, the swinging of the bat, all things that would not have happened had the woman not died.
Granted, there was probably other things god could have done to get those messages across, but that's another story.
As for the people who bitch about the water, do you forget that HG WELLs classic story has pretty much the same ending twist. I've also always been of the mindset that it wasn't the water so much as the bacteria in the water that killed the aliens (seeing as how M Night himself said it was WOTW inspired).
The little girl says the water is "contaminated" and has "ameobas" in it. And that it "Tastes old". Anyone know what happens to a glass of water after you take a sip and leave it out for a week?
Regardless, though, water or germs, if you're gonna criticize the gimmick, criticize HG, too.
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If you didn't, tough shit.
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hmmmmm, water melt the witch, yes yes, good water melt bad aliens, I'm GENIUS !! Trees scare Dorothy, yes yes, trees scary, I'm GENIUS !!!
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on earth. They were coming to take people away. Perhaps they thought it was worth the risk.
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wicked witch, hmmmmm, let me see, YES water melt wicked aliens who fart with their hands !! Poisonous farts out of their hands YES I AM GENIUS !!!
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All of his films get made for $70 mil or less. Signs made 400 million worldwide. Even lady in the water, which didn't make back the cash in box office came close enough that every producer got paid profited on DVD sales. Quit your bitching and moaning (unless it's funny). If you hate the guy, don't give him your cash. I won't be. The Happening was made for 50 mil, it could have Speed Racers numbers and be successful.
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What engorged images of the female body will he exploit to relay to us how much he loved this movie?
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I'm too weak to go to the multiplex, ahhhhh, grass giving off poisonous farts ....
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The Dark Knight will rule all. The Dark Knight is the only summer movie that matters. I will not watch any movie besides The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight rules all. The Dark Knight is the only film that matters. I will not go to any movie besides The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight...
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Poisonous farts coming out of their hands ?? Get it?? Ahahahhah, what a genius, poisonous alien farts !!! What a frickin' GENIUS !!!
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The evil aliens come to Earth, but water make them disappear !! Get it?? I write that !! I am Genius !!!
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Suddenly everybody's too weak to tap their keyboards !! OHHHHH NOOOO it's the PLANTS !!!!
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Nooooooooooooooooo !!! Must keep moving fingers, uhhhhh, must resist urge to hit keyboard against my head, must resisssssssss
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if you dont think he is, then the idiot is you. he knows his craft, and the hitchcock's comparison(i'm talking about mastery of suspense here, not filmography) is actually warranted. while hitchcock is all technic with no heart - most of the time, his characters are just boring chess pieces, m.night's actually injects humanity in his films.
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But I expect he'll have to either except (much) smaller budgets or tighter studio control. This is under the assumption that THE FAPPENING will be the box office disaster that many are predicting. I expect $60 million tops.
IMO the Emperor has no clothes and he will have to adjust to a world that no longer puts him on a pedestal. Its now up to him to deflate his ego and come out of the delusional bubble his been living in for the better part of a decade.
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WRONGO !!! He ain't a pimple on Hitch's fat ass !!!
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i hate his twist endings! and i really reaaaaally hate the fact that everyone was talking about how 'cool' and 'original' the ending in sixth sense was when it came out.
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That when this one tanks, the studios will QUIT handing him money to piss away !!!!
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Get it?? He's dead !! He been dead the whole picture !! I fool you, eh? I GENIUS !!!
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the lack of boxoffice will burst his delusional bubble !! Maybe this will be his frickin' wake up call !!!
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hitchcock's charaters are cardboard cutouts. i'm pretty sure he'd be the first to admit that. his sole interest is creating suspense, everything else is secondary.
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And if he wasn't such a Douchey McDouche he would have kept a level head like Spielberg did. Look at his first six films: The Sugarland Express, Jaws, Close Encounters, 1941, Raiders and E.T. Of those only 1941 was considered a misfire and it's still a pretty good movie.Compare that to M. Night's first six films. He should have hung his ego at the door and directed other people's scripts.
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Suspense, what suspense ?? The suspense of how long will people put up with this ego maniac?? The suspense of when he'll finall crash and burn???
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It's gone quiet again !! Auughhh, must resist urge to kill egomaniac, stupid directors auughghghhghhghhhhhhh
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It's reaaalllly quiet, hmm, better stay indoors away from plants, hmmmmmmmmmm
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people have been saying that forever. i still believe in his directing skills, it's just his writing gets more and more retarded with each film. seems he's written himself into a corner and cant get free.
and spielberg did about 5 years worth of tv episodes before the studio let him do film. m.night's carrer skyrocketed much much faster. i'm not trying to defend him - he DOES have major ego problem. i'm just saying, if anyone here were that succesfull that young, would your head not swell to as well?
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ANY sort of perspective, but still ... The trailer with him telling us how fortunate we are that he's made another movie !! How delusional is THAT !!!
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spielberg may act humble in public, but how do you know if he's not jerking off to himself in the mirror every night?
some directors just hide his ego better than others, but you just know how much of a bigshot he realy thinks he is. lucas comes to mind. -
Don't say Lucas !!! Aughghghgh !! Now I said it !!! What an ego maniac !! What a jerk !! He stole my childhood !!!
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the size of Montana but he also has a body of work to back it up. With Shyamalan, not as much. Spielberg also appears to interact with others in the business and has had many succesful collaborations. Shyamalan appears to live in a bubble and does not collaborate at all.
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and enhance performances with editing, camera angle, cinematography and such (just like directors and editors are supposed to), but to call his characters cardboard?? Jimmy Stewart in Vertigo or Rear Window..Cary Grant in Notorious or North By Northwest..The brilliant way he makes the audience feel sad, anxious, scared of Norman Bates..
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he contributes to the scripts, but mostly sticks to the actual filming. Shlammy sets up shots that look like a first year film student at USC did them...
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so we can be put out of his misery. That guy was a one hit (if that) wonder and I am just PRAYING that Hollywood now sees what the rest of us already know. MNS is a fucking HACK! I hope a fucking tree falls on him and crushes him like a tomato. SPLAT!
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After Jaws, Close Encounters, E.T., three Indy movies, Empire of the Sun, Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, Amistad, Private Ryan, Munich and Minority Report, Spielberg can jerk off into a mirror all he wants. In fact, let him slam us in the ass without the courtesy of a reach around. Even taking WoTW and KoTCS into account, he's still earned it.And yes, the AICN guys have some very impressive egos which may eventually be their undoing.
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hehe... i think we can all agree that m.night's ego clouds his perspective. i actually dont mind when a director shoots his ego all over our faces, as long as he keeps delivering the goods. i mean, it's his works we(as lovers of films) should care about, right? that's what we're paying for, right? it's when his ego gets in the way of his skills is when it's getting frustrating to me. the same can also be said of tarantino.
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even give us a reacharound !!!
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Spielberg is fairly humble, actually. M. Night has a bloated ego that he hasn't earned. Spielberg never cast himself as a messiah, or addressed his critics on film.
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YOU little maggot, you make want to vomit !!!!
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i said "most of the time". but watch italian or french films made during that era, and you'll see how paper thin hitchcock's characters are. his films are suspense driven, and characters often function little more than plot devices.
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That flick was one of his best ... I guess the characters were somewhat thin in "The Birds", though.
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is VASTLY over rated !!! Without the lead actors he got, it woulda sucked !!!
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I'm going to kill someone. "Signs" wasn't about family conflict you morons. Over analyzing movies like this is really retarded. "Signs" was the story of an alien invasion both boring and unrealistic (but more the former). It's also shitty, long, unfunny, thrill less poorly-acted and a shitty M. Night's movie.
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Jun 12, 2008 4:11:02 PM CDT
what's happening? the happening's happening, THAT'S what's happe
by mr_macphisto
...where am I?
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There were aliens in Signs Yer Retardeddd?
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Logistically the invasion doesn't hold up. However an invasion that does hold up to scrutiny would ultimately end with our species being wiped out entirely. If anything the movie is manipulation at its best. How you feel about that is up to you. There are several moments in that movie that had me crawling out of my skin, which doesn't happen often, with the birthday party scene being the freakiest. Too bad I can't say anything similar about anything he's made ever since. Fortunately the solution to most of his problems is rather simple, let someone else write the script!!!
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It is ironic you mention the French, when Mr. Truffaut authored one of, if not the definitive book on Hitchcock's career. And Truffaut, who helped introduce the auteur theory, of which Hitchock is considered a prime example..And of course, by refining his craft within the parameters of the "thriller", his characters sometime did exist to propel the plot and nothing else. As beloved as "The Birds" is, I don't think anyone's running to give Tippi Hedren or Rod Taylor a retroactive Oscar.
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Where he was accepting of the "new Speilberg" label the magazine was giving him. This guy is not humble. Maybe after a few more bombs he will start telling good stories again. Who knows? He just comes off like an ass most of the time.
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There were moments in SIGNS that made my breakfast crawl outta my mouth !!!
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$60 Million and they'd be in the black, budget was like $57 or something...before DVD sales. The truth is his success rate is ridiculous. So studios will keep letting him make (already) tight budgeted movies in hopes that they'll hit and make 6 times their budget
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it seems that m.night's ego, more than anything, is what infuriates the geeks.
i agree with you that other far worse directors are not given due attention. and we should be directing less venom m.night's way, and more bay's/lucas's/the guy who did the mummy/the guy who did fast and furious/and a bunch of other hacks's ways -
The studios keep hoping that there's enough retards to show up for his flicks with Mommy's hard earned money in their chubby hand !!
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got lucky, that's all. Pure luck !!
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came out at the same time as The Phantom Smell, so it got the benefit of tons of butts in the seats ...
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i'm aware of the auteur theory, and yes i'm aware of the book on hitchcock. never read it. but if i'm not mistaken truffaut was one of hitchcock's biggest critic.
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I want me some Jurassic Park IV
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when I see one, that's fer damn shure ...
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there's been nobody since even come close ...
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it's the daffodils, they're giving off poisonous fumes, I mean farts !!!
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And each time it's on, I can sit through it, or let it run as background noise while I'm on the computer. It's not as bad as people make it out to be.
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it's not as bad as people say, IT"s FREAKIN' TEN THOUSAND TIMES WORSE !!!!
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It's the Petunias They're, well you know what they're doing !!!
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but he was one of his dectractor, and of the 'stagey' and 'phony' hollywood films at the time, hence the birth of the french personal films.
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until the ending reveals itself and turns the whole movie stupid.
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1. You keep saying "it's not that bad"
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Which come to think of it, was much scarier book than a movie. The triffids win in the book. Seawater kills them in the silly 1962 film. John Wyndham's estate should sue Shamalamadingdong.
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How much time do you have today? You're posting every three minutes and none of it has been interesting.
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and kill ??? If the flowers spit poison, that woulda been cool...
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to kick a RETARD when he's down !!! Bwawhahahahahah !! (Now THAT was FUNNY !!!)
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It's the Man-in-the-moon Marigolds !! They're farting poison gassssssssss
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But on an unrelated matter, whats the consensus here on the eating of pussy? Now me, I'm not for it, but I just had a co-worker go on a ten minute rant about how great it is. So let's get down to brass tacks: are we pussy-eaters on this website or are we not?
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It's thew Black Eyed Susans !!!
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Look at Rotten Tomatoes. Even the Philly critic doesn't spare him.BTW, thanks Salemslut for getting the facts straight on Hitch.
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It's the Weeping Willows !! They're farting poisonous gassssss
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Only chocolate covered...its an AICN thing.
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This movie was filmed literally five minutes from my house.
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as did EVERY critic that was forced to sit through this mess
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would keep filming in Pannsylvania !! He thinks he's Woddy Allen, with manhatton !!!
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It's the daisys !!! They're farting poisonous gassssss !! I want to kill myself AUGHGGHHHHGH !! Must resist urge !!!
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How touchingly ironic !! The tomatoes in the spew poisonous farts !!!
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The aliens invade a planet that is 70% water and they don't have protective suits against the water? But they have the knowledge to travel in space? I just don't get why people like signs at all. The story didn't make any sence and the tension/suspence wasn't enough to keep me from asking those questions. Night is so overrated.
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what a smelly load !! How anyone can defend that turd in a punchbowl is beyond understanding !!
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just saw a clip of this from Letterman last night. And guess what? SOMETHINGS HAPPENING! Lame.
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I meant to say EVEN IF Spielberg had an ego...
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spoiler filled review just the other day...and the so called "twist" (actually it's not really a twist) is just asinine.
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The Happening is that the freakin' audience goes out to the lobby for popcorn, and goes to a different flick !!!
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Click on the following... but warning...it's filled with spoilers.
http://www.collider.com/entertainment/reviews/article.asp?aid=7903&tcid=1
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the twist is that the entire audience groans when they realize two hours of their life is gone forever, spent watching this load of shit !!!
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It's a spoiler talkback. My bad. Yup that's correct...the plants on earth have decided to fight against mankind and have released neurotoxins. Yup, that's the movie.
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Expect reviews on this site to include stuff like "silly", "B-Movies", "tense dialogue", "solid performances, and "chocolate covered strawberries stuff in anus."The funny thing is I think I decided to watch UNBREAKABLE this weekend.
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That title pretty much sums up all his movies ....
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M. Knight's re-imagining of Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because that is when I assume that this site will get an EFFING EDIT BUTTON. And possibly a KILL button too...
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for an Ego Maniac Pompous Ass" !!
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Hope it gets an all time worst review rating !!!
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It's the dandelions !! They're farting poisonous gassss !! Must kill myself !! Must kill !!!
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It's the mushrooms !!! They're, wait a second, they're fungi, not plants, hmmmmmm, Fungi from Yuggoth ???
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This piece of shit, plus that Oz piece of shit equals short career arc ??
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only 324 posts ??? I can fix that !!! Ummm, Shlcammmydingdong ego maniac self deluded piece of shit movie, there !! Viola !! 325 !!
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but I hope this ends this ego nutbag's career for once and all !! Bollywood's calling, Schlammy !!!
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Boards gone quiet again ..... Must stay away from windows, must stay indoors, away from Multiplexes ...
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hmmmmm, Talkbackers must be sniffing the daisys ...
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give off toxins causing Talkback fever and talking to one's self.
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Jun 12, 2008 6:19:08 PM CDT
"His 1st RATED-R FILM!!1oneeleventy"
by fathermcgruderkicksassforthelord
After the marketing campaign, I'm glad to see this one fall hard.
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Jun 12, 2008 6:23:08 PM CDT
"M. Night Shyamalan used to have ...
by fathermcgruderkicksassforthelord
... a vast army of fans. Now he has a dwindling network of apologists."
From The Onion AV Club's review.
Have truer words ever been spoken? -
SWEET !!!! That totally sums it up !!!
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Bwahahahahah !!! Hey !! Sniff my finger !!! Hahahhhaah !! I touched the flowers !!! Hahahahha !!!!
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It's the Pot Plants, whhhhooopppps, they already give off noxious gassssssss !!
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They've sniffed the Poison fumes from the Ficus trees !!!
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It's the poison fumes from the Poison IVy !!! Oooohhoohooho, scary, scary, scary, I'm soooooooo scared !!! Must stay indoors and keep typing .....
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they've been gassed by poison plant farts !!! They've decided to expose their eyes to a horrible movie that will suck their life right out !!!
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Looks like the work of evil plants and trees !!
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let's see, I've ruined dead people, aliens,remote villages, hmmmm, religion, hmmmm, I KNOW!!! I'll ruin plants and trees !! Yeah, that's the ticket, I'll screw that up so bad no one will ever use it again !!! I GENIUS !!!
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three hundred and forty !!!
Bwahhahaahahahhahahah !!!
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It's a lot of freakin' work slamming Schlammy all day long !!!
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"Oh, god, they're before my eyes! How'd they get burned? HOWDTHEYGETBURNED? Aaah, my legs!" <-- the only way to save this movie.
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What a maroon !!! Hahahhaha !! Schlammy thinks he's a genius !!! This is the worst yet !!
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The trees are after you !!
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Doesn't she play "Poison Ivy" in "The Happening?"
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why you wasted 2 hours.
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...I vowed to never waste another penny on this twat. And let's see, The Village, LITW, and now an even more despised Happening. I feel like I invested $100,000 in Apple stock during its low point in the '90s. I told you so.
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I saw it in one of those lousy eat while you watch a movie places (The Granada in Dallas, which has turned into a great concert hall). In the middle of the movie, I wrote "HE IS DEAD" on my napkin with the pen that the waitress had me sign my bill with. I told everyone I knew the secret, and placed the napkin under my date's purse. I was so horrified that it was correct. And everyone praised me, but I felt so sad. There's a lot of people more clever than me. I so wanted to be surprised. Like when Keyser Sose's limp went away. But it was not to be. :(
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was the last Shyamalan film I paid to see too. My date was so pissed at me for taking her to such a shite movie she made me watch an Antonio Banderas movie with her the following week. I will never forgive M Night for this.
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Jun 12, 2008 8:49:32 PM CDT
Suicides are imitated every time they appear in film or on TV...
by lettersoftransit
...no matter how it's presented, as a good thing, as a bad thing, as painless and bringing on many changes, however. That's what the research says anyway. Can't help but wonder how many will do the deed after seeing this film.
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I liked it. And I really liked the talkback. End the silence, demand answers.
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If this guy gets to make another movie then we know he is blowing a slew of people in Hollywood.
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...take feedback from others when shaping his projects. He needs a good team to work with who can give him constructive criticism instead of blowing smoke up his ass telling him how brilliant he is. This won't end his career, he IS a talented director, but they really need to drop the whole ad campaign for Night's films where every trailer has the line, "From the director who brought you ______" His filmography is mixed, so that scheme won't fly anymore. He just needs to realize he's not invincible and change his current approach.
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It worked! By calling me a jerkoff I've come to your side! I hate "Signs"! I now distrust my own tastes! Thank you for showing me the way with your insightful correction!
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It's pretty interesting because after seeing the trailers in theatres I leaned over to my gilrfriend and said, "I bet it's the trees that are emitting a deadly gas or something..." Needless to say watch the previews, almost every other shot has trees or green foilage in a very "look I'm here", in the framing approach. I guess it's noble to try and make a movie about the most sentient and non-violent creatures on the planet being mankind's bedall -- but I think that once this is explained it will be harder to generate suspense. Hitchcock could do it. Maybe even a younger John Carpenter, but Shyamalan's VILLAGE fell apart after the twist and I have the feeling the same will happen here. He's been on the downward slide since THE VILLAGE (I know people hate SIGNS - but $227 million is pretty fucking successful) -- and this will probably be the end of his career. Should have stuck to directing others scripts.
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There are only about 36 reviews on there. I love when people jump in so early with RT statistics as proof their side of the argument is correct. Of course, I'm not saying I expect "The Happening"'s score to go up once more reviews appear. I expect it to go down, because I anticipate it to be a total turd of a film. But it's no use bringing those statistics to bear until we have more reviews.
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Or are you just going to slag it off based on preconceptions and what you've read? Even worse you'll probably be one of those who pretends they've seen it and compains and mocks scenes that they've read about in plot descriptions - you know, like 90% of the people who attack Speed Racer. "Oh, a film about plants killing people, that's STOOPID!! **lolz** I know, how many nicknames can we come up with for the director?" Christ, it's like a bunch of bitter, neglected twelve year olds in here. Of course you can't see it, it's rated R.
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I went to military school for college and I neither the time nor the inclination to see Sixth sense when it came out so my little brother picked me up at the airport for the summer and said, Oh dude you have to see the sixth sense its awesome it has a twist. And all id seen was the billboard and I told him Bruce Willis was dead he told me i was right and so I never even got to enjoy that M. Night movie. But seriously The Usual Suspects has a much better twist.
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Its sad that so many guys out ther that LOVEEEEEEEEEE this dush think "The hapening" is not good AND THIS GUYS LOVED Mnigthsgsheida lamadingdong`s movies so what can the people that think all his stuff is pretentious and boring spect? well i think il go see kunfu panda ones more and see how a REAL director dos a film
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... is the result of mating experiments between Stephen King and Deepak Chopra
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Jun 12, 2008 11:54:00 PM CDT
signs doesn';t have a twist. unbreakable doesnt have a twist
by slappy jones
why everyone goes on and on about all of his films having twists is beyond me. what exactly is the twist to unbreakable?? that sam jackson is the bad guy?? woah....no way? that changes the entire film that has come before it. um actually no it doesn't. there is a big difference between a twist and a reveal. finding out who the bad guy is isn't a twist. If we had been lead to believe that there was no way sam jackson could in anyway possibly be a bad guy then yes it would be a twist but that ending is hardly a twist. And Signs...what exactly is the twist there? that aliens are afraid of water..that water kills them? again not a twist. what was the twist in lady in the water? it didn't have one either. The Village has one and so does the sixth sense. So he has two twists out of how many films yet everyone goes on about him using twists everytime when he doesn't.
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and grass that would trip humans. im giving my houseplants extra water just in case.
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If the whole deal is with the trees why does the film's survivors are in a rural area while the casualties happen in the cities...unless the trees move...maybe it is just "Hellboy 2" faeries atacking yai! or worse Tom cruise.
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Funny you mention that, cause I will not watch this movie because it's about plant's randomly causing suicide while assuming that the movie is well made and entertaining. Yet, sadly, I can't get past how stupid the plot is... you know, the kind of extra special retarded that can only sit in the stands of the Special Olympics, retarded. And lame, so, so lame.
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I really got to edit posts better. Despite from syntax and such, yall get my point.
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I guess the marijuana plants were affected too. ass.
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they are not twists, they are clarifications. In the end...
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I loved "Sixth Sense" and "Village," so I'll give M. Night one more shot. Why not... it can't be any worse then "Indy 4."
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I thought he was dead?
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A critically acclaimed writer/director attempts to make his masterpiece which is so pretentious that by the end he dissapears up his own asshole. What a twist!!!!
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leave the bay thing alone dude....yes I know "fuck Bay" yes fuck him but gggggooooddd ddddaaaammm let's just concentrate on the fact that M night is trash from the breman class.
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What you always seem to forget is that there was a whole legion of fanboys who went to see TRANSFORMERS with the pre-expressed, written intent of hating it. You know what? A lot of them came out of the theater liking the movie. A lot of those same people admitted as much on THIS site. Much to your chagrin.Bottom line: Bay's movie entertained. For the most part, it achieved one of the Three E's of film (Enlighten, Educate, Entertain). If M. Night's film is incapable of doing any of that, then it stands be a failure.As a fan of M. Night's earlier work, I'm bummed that his film making prowess has taken a turn for the worse. And face it, the word of mouth on this thing is abysmal. And it doesn't bode well that his next film is AIRBENDER (!)...Make of that what you will, M-O-M.
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Jun 13, 2008 1:16:00 PM CDT
It aint the twists that Night gets right, it's the other stuff..
by lettersoftransit
His talents lay much more in the personal moments. That is what really made sixth sense work. I couldn't believe it when I saw that film and three minutes in I figured Willis was dead and I was only surprised because, at first, I thought, no it's just too obvious. Is this really leading toward a "whoops, I'm dead!" finale. (Harlan Ellison's phrase). Sure enough, the surprise for me was that he was going for the incredible SF cliche and that hardly anyone in the theater seemed to see it coming. Because there was so much nice emotional stuff along the way they didn't stop to think about the obvious conclusion. Each later film had essentially the same problems, only more so. And the audience, looking for twists in the later films, wasn't distracted by the emotional stuff, and too much of the emotional stuff was also tied in directly with the "twists" (I couldn't believe the audience tolerated "swing away" but, there, too, it was in the midst of one of the more relatably creepy moments in the film). With the village, it seemed that a lot of people knew the "twist" at the end long before the movie ended, but the performances were good and it was interesting to wonder what drove these people to create this environment. With that film, however, he crossed the line where the scary elements and the "twist" ending both decidedly became more liability than asset. He should set out to do something without any mystical elements and without any surprises, and he might surprise us and himself with something great.
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I never said nobody should see this movie. I simple said that everyone who knows "Plants killed everyone" is the end of this film, should go see it. hehehe
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Jun 13, 2008 1:57:36 PM CDT
"Which doesn't bode too well for the spieces, does it?"
by mr. nice gaius
Opinions, opinions. When will you learn to grasp the concept of other peoples opinions...And I too will not rejoice if M. Night fails. I'd rather have him succeed = I will rejoice when he succeeds.
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Quote: "I know fully well the concept of opinions."Well, some would argue that you only know full well the concept of your OWN opinion.Quote: "but if you ask me, i rather be with the bad news and know it by what they are, then to go live in a dream illusion build on lies."WOW. That's quite a ponderous statement to be throwing the way of M. Night or Mikey Bay. I think you give too much credence to both. No opinion there; merely a straight forward observation.Quote: "And that's exactly what i'm talking about here, or rather, what i'm not, which is, opinions."And I'm not sure this sentence even makes any sense...
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treaty.
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