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Quint arm wrestles with THE INCREDIBLE HULK... guess who wins...
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here, finally getting to my Hulk review.
I’ve commented on the movie from time to time as various trailers and stills… I believe the words I used were “it looks cool, but uninspiring.”
So that’s where I was when I saw the film. I liked Ang Lee’s movie, but as much as I defended it when it came out I can honestly say I haven’t had any desire to rewatch it, even though I picked it up on DVD. IRON MAN rocked my socks off and I was hoping I didn’t feel “meh” on THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
And I don’t feel “meh” on THE INCREDIBLE HULK. I actually feel pretty energized, still after nearly a week. Is it as good as IRON MAN? Nope, but it’s still pretty damn good. Edward Norton is great in the role, great enough, in fact, to sell the CG character when he appears.
As a reboot it’s a success. I spoke with Kevin Feige before the screening (look for that interview very, very soon) and he said that all over Marvel’s history you’ll find one-shots, different artists interpretations of character origins or specific moments within the history of a certain character, and that’s how they viewed Ang Lee’s movie going in and that’s how it feels.
The movie opens with a great credits sequence that gives you flashes of the origin before it drops you in the middle of a story already in motion. I love movies that do that and by viewing this film as a reboot they assume you get it and if you don’t , well… you get a recap during the credits, almost like an episode of Lost or 24.
What’s great in the opening is that they don’t blow their wad with a big CG sequence. When the experiment does go wrong and the Hulk appears, you see from his point of view, and you can feel the rage just in how the camera moves… and the destruction he leaves completely sets us up… You see General Ross terrified, you see Betty hurt… and now we know where Norton stands, where Betty stands and where General Ross stands.
What’s interesting to me with General Ross’ character is that you come to suspect that he is driven to capture Banner not out of any need other than to capture the being that dared put fear into him.
Louis Leterrier does a fine job of keeping the movie running, but taking time for the slow build. In a way, I wish they could have kept the Hulk out of the trailers because it does undercut the build a bit.
Norton spends the first part of the movie in Brazil, hunkering down, looking for a cure. He works at a bottling factory, which is a great set in the daytime and an even better set at night when we see the first Hulk out.
This was far and away my favorite scene in the movie. It’s not as big or flashy as the later CG rampages, but that’s what I love about it. Leterrier treats it as a horror scene. When the Hulk enters the scene, he’s kept in shadow. The soldiers and local roughnecks are terrified. You hear the destruction then you see it a second later, just missing Hulk in the act.
And the sound design… that’s what sells the scene. In many ways we are the eyes of Tim Roth’s Emil Blonsky for this sequence and just as he is awed by what is going on, so are we.
This is also the first time we hear The Hulk speak, but it’s very subtle, many in the audience not hearing it. It could have been the growl of destruction, but it very much wasn’t.
Loving this sequence doesn’t mean the CG is shitty. I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t a little cartoony when the big Abomination/Hulk battle rages in the final act, but honestly by the time we’re at that point we’re hooked. It’s the Spielberg JAWS theory at work. When he was confronted about the unrealistic ending of the shark jumping out of the water, onto the boat and exploding with a shot to an airtank, he responded that if he didn’t have the audience by that point, then there was no saving the film.
The reality is that Norton and Roth both play the hell out of the movie and have you invested in their characters so when they’re CG creatures you still picture Norton and Roth and carry that baggage with you.
Liv Tyler, William Hurt and Tim Blake Nelson are all strong in the supporting cast. There is a little King Kong or Beauty and the Beast to Betty and Hulk’s relationship… but there’s also an undercurrent of the abusive husband going on. Norton’s torn up, he’s driven to cure himself and control his anger by the fact that he hurt Betty when he first transformed.
She doesn’t look at it that way, but he sure does. It haunts him, it drives him. In other words, it gives him real character.
I think that’s the biggest surprise of the movie. We knew that Leterrier would bring the action. His work on the TRANSPORTER guaranteed us that. The worry was that after all the negative buzz with disputes between Norton and the producers that it’d just be a hollow shell of a movie… pretty, with good action, but empty. That’s not the case.
That said, I’m really damn curious about what these 70 missing minutes will be… Leterrier has said there’ll be 70 minutes of cut footage on the DVD and Blu-Ray releases. I recently toured the NY Marvel Comics offices and while I was there I saw a Hulk board with stills from the movie. Most of them were stills we’d seen before, but there was one of Hulk standing on an iceberg and a killer whale jumping at him, jaws open.
Having seen the movie… not only is that scene not in the film… but at no point is there snow or ice or anything like that. What the hell was that?!? Where the hell was that?!? Very curious.
Okay, rambling over… The movie’s solid, the movie’s fun and, the best part… you don’t have to check your brain at the door.
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com
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Can't wait to see this.
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By the way, I loved Ang Lee's Hulk movie, even though I understand why big Hulk fans would be let down.
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So were the cuts done after the cgi was rendered. The whale scene sounds like it probably never made it past the storyboard stage.
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What if the Eric Bana Hulk would meet the Edward Norton Hulk in a parallel kinda movie world. Would the universe explode like Doc predicts in Back to the Future?
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oh yes indeedy
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or something? it was in that latino review article the other day
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i tried to be first and failed miserably, seeing how one can look like an idiot doing it, i will never try that again
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Louis Letterier has it in him to make a better film than Ang Lee. Sorry.
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from all the reviews. I won't expect Iron Man level of goodness, but if this one entertains me, cool. My original plans were not to see this in the theater, but I may have to check it out now. Perhaps next week...
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It's certainly not in the same league with Jaws, but the principle is the same.kwisatzhaderach - I like them both for different reasons. This one is without a doubt the more accessible take on the character, though.
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Heh...I remember a flash in the trailer of someone (I assumed Banner) trekking through the snow. Maybe there's a whole side story left out of the final cut...pacing purposes, maybe? Impossible-to-finish-CGI-by-due-date deal? Be interesting to see what the DVD looks like...
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Hurt?? I cant see it. And the cgi looks crap.
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went to the "premiere" tonight.. im in new zealand..im not one for reviews, hell i can barely write.. anyway.. i rock up to the theatre.. was lucky enough to get a ticket through work.. anyway theres no one around.. i felt like joe pesci and thought i was going to get whacked.. anyway, some more people show up so its all good.
i really enjoyed the film. fuck the hulk can throw a tanty! his rage is amazing! hes fucking brutal when he hits things. liv tyler gave me the shits to start with.. wasnt looking that hot either.. but after she meets up with the hulk again, she won me over. great cameo by lou ferrigno.. hes still a huge man!!! tim roth plays a good part. fuck he looks weird standing next to william hurt.. the man has a huge head!!! anyway, ill stop my bumbling review so i dont laden it with spoilers.. to sum up, i was pleasently surprised.
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http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/11/terminator-4-teaser-trailer-attached-to-the-dark-knight/
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Latino review did say the snow scene was Banner in the Arctic Circle. It's a suicide attempt they left out because it's too dark. But in the Arctic, he somehow uncovers/crosses paths/finds Cap. I'm assuming a frozen Cap. I think they said it's supposed to be on the extras with the dvd. Who knows.
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Those can be very convenient, you know.
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Leterrier cut it out of the film. The snow scene also included the Captain America cameo. Here is a description from SOS Hollywood Interview....
“There’s a point when Bruce Banner gives up on his quest for the cure and decide to kill himself. So he travels far North and reaches the Arctic Circle. You might have seen bits of it in some of the promos. The result was a very dark and strong scene, which Marvel, me and everyone else’s considered to be too hard to young audiences to take, so we’ve cut it. Having that said, when Bruce arrives at his destination he meets up with Captain America! At some point this week, we will make it available on the internet – but I cannot tell you where or when – and the material will definitely be on the DVD.”
http://judao.com.br/blogs/hollywood/2008/06/10/exclusive-captain-america-on-hulk-the-real-deal/
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In terms of CGI, the still I saw was fully rendered... this was maybe back in April or May. So some work had been done on it.
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Jun 11, 2008 7:47:42 AM CDT
HULK HAS COCK WITH ELBOW, WHY ALL THE JOKES?
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
ALSO HULKS TAINT BLEEDS, WHAT BANNER UP TO?
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Is Liv Tyler as a cellular biologist, and William Hurt as a General. She's too weak and he's too introspective. They should have recast Jennifer Connely and Sam Elliot. That being said, I thought the film was a blast. I agree the final fight got a little cartoony, but I was smiling so much I didn't care because I was totally into the film by then! I can't believe at one point I was actually thinking, 'I don't know how the Hulk is going to beat this guy!'
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The question I have is how much more action is in this film than in the first Hulk movie. If that one had, say, 10-15 minutes of real action in it, does this one have double that, or triple that? It seems like it does.
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The whole Arctic scene. I'm sure they must have had similar scenes in terms of tone that were cut out then to lead up to that very scene in the first place.
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Very cool idea, reminiscent of the Frankenstein novel...and I'll have a review of the Incredible Hulk game over at playitreviewit.com in the coming days...plug-plug....under my nome de guerre 'alienmastermind'....check it out or not.Hey, they kept it in the video game...What I thought while playing it was: Holy shit. If this is what the movie's going to be like...I'm sold. Hearing that it's not in, kinda saddens me, but the scene is all CG in the video game and pretty cool.Banner's in the arctic, on his knees with a pistol. You hear the gun go off, and standing there a split second later is the Hulk, who spits the bullet onto the ice and says one word. "Banner"Cool shit.
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that the ANG LEE Hulk is definitely worth another viewing. There are some really clever subtexts going on that, when you're tuned in for them, really lift the movie. And if you stay on board for all of that, the 'hulk fighting lightning' finale will kind of blow your mind. The only mistake Ang Lee made was to not deliver the Hulk movie that everyone (including me) wanted. But none of that matters when you see it a second time.
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Now THAT sounds cool.
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Believe me, the being swept four games by the dreadful (and by dreadful, I mean fucking god damn dreadful) Padres, it matters now what happens the rest of the season. Season is finished.
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And I'm planning to watch it again within the next days.
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and they'd still lose every game, as long as Randolph insists on keeping his pitchers in until the 5th inning and tossing it over to the real Abomination - the bullpen.
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In fact, you are wrong. We would call up the Hulk from the minors for one game, one game.Against the Phil and he would SMASH the whole team. He of course would be suspended, and appeal. That way we can line him up for the next serious to SMASH one more team before he's banned from the game.While that would not secure the Mets a playoff spot, at least two teams would have been destroyed by the Hulk, greatly increasing their chances.
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No doubt, it will not be as good as Iron Man, but I've got my fingers crossed for some solid spectacle and big monsters fighting and whatnot.Also, I am looking forward to heading into the talkbacks and getting into pointless arguments with the CGI whiners. Man, I hate CGI whiners. Anyway, coming in here and talking a bunch of crap is half the fun of seeing these big summer blockbusters for me.
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So presumably that was cut as well? They probably went for the Frankenstein motive (when the monster takes refuge in the artic) but figured it was too cheesy and decided to cut it. Hulk fighting a killer whale does sound a little goofy to Rickey...
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cheap bastards
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I know that everyone hates him. He has a rep for being a micro-managing ass, re-writing stuff, changing stuff around, but the guy has shown that he has the insight. He is one of my top 5 in hollywood.
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OH MY FUCKING GOSH DOES HULK PUNCH A KILLER WHALE???!!!! because that would be fun.
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I was listening to a DJ talk about seeing a press screening and said there's a scene after the credits that's as good as the post-credits scene in Iron Man!!!! that's AWESOME (like I wasn't going to sit and wait anyway) but I'm surprised no one mentions it. I know people that saw Iron Man multiple times and were pissed they had never heard of the post-credit scene so they had never seen it. Talk about it, get it out there!
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yeah, cause it's not based on a comic about a giant, tantrum throwing green man or anything
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Hopefully he'll keep making solid action movies and take that spot left open by John McTiernan.
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isn't it obvious? he'll be frozen in the ice in the currently cut Arctic scene. It will be really subtle of course. Can't wait for the DVD, I guess
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Uh, you don't think the Hulk punching a killer whale is pushing things a little too far?
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but are you really saying you wouldn't want to see that?
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mets fans always suffer .......
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If anything, he should be punching the moon. He should get angry at the moon, leap 240,000 miles out of Earth's orbit, and punch the damn moon all the way out into space.<p.Only the moon is a worthy opponent for the Hulk.
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and this is one.
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That's all
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Rickey would view it as something similar to Indy surviving the nuke, but Rickey would watch it nonetheless.
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..where hulk killed the deer with a backhand?? ugh
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They give him a character rundown... think it's Ross who does it... anyway, he says he was born in Russia, but was raised in England. Explains Roth using his regular accent then, yeah?3rdrate - The review's not forced at all. That's exactly how I feel. I don't feel compelled to give this one a pass. That's how I feel. It's a strong flick, no pun intended.
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Blonsky is an English mercenary in this film, not a Yugoslavian (the character was never Russian) spy like in the comics.
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There was a shot in one of the trailers where someone was walking through snow. I hate when they show something in a trailer and then cut it from the final film.
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I've heard it explained that he is Russian born and British raised. I have friends that that actually pertains to. Peace.
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uh yeah, Rickey just said that 10 posts up. Welcome to the party bub.
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which was average at best? Maybe im alone but the bells and whistles werent enough to keep me interested. There was no 'story' as such, and the bad guy should have just been played that way from the beginning...oooo a corporate takeover, thats compelling cinema.
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"My eyes are open." BLAM!
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I want to see HULK take on a Great White and a Polar Bear...at the same time,bring it on.
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..is probably in the intro backstory sequence, where banner is trekking through south america. or not. but that was my initial thought
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on principal. As one of the few who actually enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk movie, I felt P.O.'d that instead of doing a sequel, they decided to do a reboot. (Whereas Superman Returns gets a sequel INSTEAD of a reboot. Where's the justice??). However, reviews that I've seen have all been very positive, so I think I will go see it. I just won't contribute to it's opening weekend box office. Take THAT Marvel. Pppppbbbbbtttt!!
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you obviously care something about the material, but have no real influence over what happens on screen and what doesn't. That responsibility goes to the film makers. So instead, you will just have to watch the hypothetical Hulk in the Arctic punch that hypothetical killer whale in the face. But here's where you get to make a decision. Do you like seeing that or not? You can complain about it, but that's not really getting anything done at all, and it certainly won't stop Shamu from getting what he probably had coming to him, so why not just laugh at it? After all, that sounds pretty fuckin' hilarious. Hulk will probably still in fact "SMASH" later on, so why not enjoy some good ol' fashioned endangered species-donkey punchin' while you can?
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Fuck Ang Lee's "Hulk".
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....might as well just go with the ride and laugh at the hilarity of it all. Rickey's just glad to be getting a comic book movie that actually does take itself seriously (TDK) this summer. Unless Nolan put in a scene where Batman wrestles with a walrus. Then Rickey would be pissed.
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If he isn't, it's not a real movie and it's not worth seeing.
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Liked it at the time, fair enough, enjoyed all the geek references - but really, if you thought Norton was on form yo' straight trippin' bo. That's called autopilot. Tyler was decent, Roth was fine but looked weird for a top soldier role (and if he's described as Russian born, British raised, why is he wearing a US Army uniform?) and Hurt wasn't a patch on Elliot. Still, the whole car-as-boxing-gloves thing was nice.
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Highlander Endgame. Not like I've expected great things, but damn, in the trailer they had the bad making copies of himself, the heroes jumping through energy portals and immortals using telekinesis. Then in the movie... nothing. Half the trailer was missing. WTF?
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Sorry about that. I must have missed your post about the arctic shot in the trailer. I tend to skip peoples posts when they refer to themselves in the third person...
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the first few reviews are always basically payola ones...Hulk will be "Rotten" by Friday or by Sunday at least....too bad, bt that's the way it is playing out. Make a better movie next time and reviews will reflec that.
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The fall from the helicopter, shooting himself in the head. Imagine the horror of it. Not only is this thing inside you, you hating it and it hating you right back, but it will not let you escape it even through your own death. You're just the vessel through which it comes into being and it will see to it that you survive so that it survives, it only needs to take over and when its done using you you're not only alive but healed of all injury... God it so twisted, almost like Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde meets Ground Hog Day.
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is absolutely no way to judge a film. Try seeing it and deciding what you think by your very own self before letting a bunch of critics decide for you. Being a comic book nerd myself, I seriously doubt I will have exactly the same opinion on Hulk as, say Roger Ebert. Our backgrounds are different so how our perceptions concerning a film may not be the same. Deciding whether or not to see a movie should really be a matter of whether it's something you are interested in or not, not whether or notpeople you have no clue about liked it.
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There's 15 reviews up.
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...and Hulk will rip it in two.
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sort of like what is your favorite Indy moment. Who would you most like for Hulk to punch?
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"the guy asking all the stupid, fucking questions," I'll just say this now, "ha ha, so funny, moving on."
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God I wish i could just NOT read stuff about movies that contain stuff that would be best seen for yourself and not spoiled!
I realise it's in the nature of you guys reviews to describe everything from going for a dump to what underwear you wore to the cinema but i think I will skip all reviews from now on til after i have seen the movie with my own eyes and formulated feelings about it for myself!Damn it's like crack though! I wish i could just say NO! -
Hulk should punch children. Stupid little children. Because they annoy me. and a killer whale. and Sam Jackson/Nick Fury in the eventual cameo. "I'm here to talk to you about the Aveng-WHAM!!!"
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By starring down whales and telling them Hulks weiner is bigger than their weiners. Whale gets mad, Hulk smash. Good place for this iceburgs
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...because they make shitty movies!
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Still not strong enough to quash such a head!
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And so does Al Gore...
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SWEDISH FURNITURE DEFINE HULK AS PERSONAnd that is the best description of Ang Lee's Hulk ever- a curiosity.
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THAT THINK SHALAYMAN TALENTED AUTEUR
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HULK CAPITALIST PIG
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HULK NICE LIKE THAT
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It was a Hulk-Salmon. You see, the first movie had Hulk-Toddles so they needed to keep consistence.
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give it a fucking rest already. we get the joke.
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The director said the cap scene was in the movie less than a week ago. So how do they cut the scene within days when all the reels are already sent out to the theatres? maybe just wishful thinking.
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Jun 11, 2008 12:02:59 PM CDT
Hulk smash moron Node32774 for pretentious, unfunny talkback thr
by whynot-bone
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The arctic scene was going to be the start - Banner going out to the artic (great nod to Frankenstein) where no one can possibly get hurt if things go wrong when he hulks out and tries to shoot himself - but the Hulk doesn't let him. Then it goes to a 'six months later' style thing and we are in South America as you know it. It was really compelling actually.
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If my daddy was here he would smack you in the face. He only does it to people who deserve it. LOL. I love you Daddy!!!!
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The Tomatometer is at 71 with about 20 reviews in. Not bad, if you ask me.
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..and call themselves "world champions."
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Jun 11, 2008 12:39:56 PM CDT
What color does Dickblood turn when it gets angry...
by sonofdannyglovers_dickblood
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Can only win if unite! hulk say this is so!
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Jun 11, 2008 12:55:12 PM CDT
Hulk not smash Clintons cause of good speech from Hillary
by the founder
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Hulk worry about about slick Willy's womanizing so close to election when Hillary is needed as VP.
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Jun 11, 2008 12:59:21 PM CDT
Hulk smash Obama for staying on national sercurity issue to long
by the founder
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Supposedly that's what's in the missing snow footage. Latino Review had an article stating that Banner decides to go and kill himself in the Antarctic or something. He comes across Cap, which he walks by or something. Anyway, I can't wait of the film, and I can't wait for the DVD with Norton's cut.
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Hulk mad at self. Destroys Hulk treehouse.
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Jun 11, 2008 1:23:11 PM CDT
Hulk Smash guys who post to pump the per-post payments
by lettersoftransit
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It's 2008 and you dont have the technical ability to keep an asshole like Node32774 off the site???....Just delete his EXTREMELY un-funny comments...How about "Hulk smash Node32774 for not even coming close to being even amusing"
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reason hulk not spell right
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although she could bitch slap the fuck out of you!....Why dont you just get off your parents computer..you pathetisad, lonely, never have never will touch a woman, loser....because you are just not funny...pathetic?...yes...sad?..GOD yes....Loser?..We are talking poster child proportions
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somehow, i think you need it. :)
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People have been banned for less.
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how, they can't even get a functioning search engine or spell check feature. This site is operating on two gerbils and a AA battery hooked up to a potato.
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it would be kind of redundant to call Node a fucking tool with way too much time on his hands...but I'll do it anyway.
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remakes, and 'based-on-TV-show' movies.
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Except for Hulk.
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Spoiler warning next time, for cryin' out loud.
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Damn shame it got cut. It would actually make the scene where Bruce gets dropped out of the helicopter make more sense-knowing the Hulk wont let him die. Plus...FROZEN CAPT. AMERICA!!!! How awesome would that be? The damn well better let us see that scene...too dark my ass. Damn pussy PC-coddled youngsters.....
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I haven't scrolled down a talkback so fast in my life.
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Just saw it tonight and I walked out more charged than when I saw Iron man. Story is fluid, no dragging moments. The final battle is what fans have been waiting for. I agree with Quint on how well each of the characters were developed. Solid acting all the way around. Marvel struck gold again.
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Jun 11, 2008 2:37:20 PM CDT
Hulk smash fool who wastes four hours writing 'Hulk smash...'
by workshed
Though i agree with 99% of Hulk's targets getting a good smashing. Smashing, or, as we say in Yorkshire, 'Get a life!'.
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at the Austin screening we will be seeing the ice scene VERY soon. He said that while the credits were rolling to half expected it to be the little bit at the end of the movie. Sadly nothing showed up. But from the VERY soon comment I got the impression that none of the pre-screening cuts were the final release and it would show up opening weekend.
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...FROM HIS OPERATION!
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What's up, yo?
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So why has no one mentioned that this scene that people are raving about sounds exactly like the scene in Batman Begins, where he first fights from the shadows and the viewer experiences it as a horror film. I'm sure it's a good scene, but it's hardly original, even in terms of superhero movies. Can't wait to see this, though
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Having the ice scene as the post-credits sting would work as well. Whatever it takes,that scene sounds awesome...hope it makes the cut.
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Ding Dong man don't scare Hulk. Hulk knows he makes poo poo movies. Hulk laugh at him.
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Couldn't resist.
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Jun 11, 2008 4:34:14 PM CDT
Hulk smash talkbackers with WAY too much time on their hands
by oisin5199
Not so catchy, but hey.
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No one gives a shit about this movie. Bring on the REAL comic book film of the summer!
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These talkbacks get ruined by morons? "Hulk smash this, Hulk smash that" Boring, stupid and a waste of space. That being said, every review on this site has been positive, so now I am really pumped to see this.
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He's out for tonight's game and might go on the DL again...if you can believe it.
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Jun 11, 2008 5:05:34 PM CDT
To Be Fair, It's Probably Really Easy To Correct The First Movie
by magic rat
Just add more action. The plot could be shit. The acting could be shit. As long as Hulk fights somebody good and the movie doesn't drag with useless exposition, it should be a good superhero movie.
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and think perhaps he should run for office.
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........Then Egamb goes on to fuck Node's obviously sexually dissatisfied wife..........since he can't be bothered to do the job himself........ since he's all over Hulk's dick......
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"You're no Chaffro, Brother!"
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I'm glad to see you had such a productive day, JACKASS. You started that crap during the 10 o'clock hour this morning. Listen up, ASSCRACK, Talkback is for commenting on a news story or adding opinion to a review, NOT FUCKING AROUND! Stay in your Grandma's basement a few more years until you grow up. Thank you and good day.
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Nice job, Quint. You and Mori are the reasons that I still frequent this site. Thanks.
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if, as you bashing said movie (Hulk, Iron Man, whatever is popular), that you could give us a frame of reference for what you consider movie excellence. It helps someone else to understand that, for instance, if you thought Balls of Fury was a cinematic masterpiece, your bashing of The Hulk could be put into better context. That is all...
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HULK WORRIED ABOUT THE SECURITY OF YOUR SHIT.
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He tried to smash Harry's fridge as well, and got smashed back.
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YIPPIE KI YAY MUTHASMASH
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They are all the same... loser gets special powers and decides to fight crime. Super criminal also manages to get similar powers and fights hero. Hero wins. Uggggh!
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features Betty revealing to Leonard Samson that she is pregnant in front of Bruce's cousin Jennifer. Just a guess...don't really know.
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Something tells me were I ever to have a "conversation" with Node he would irritate me to no end. On the otherhand, he did provide me with the most laughs I've had in weeks.
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...with an extended and awesome fight with the absorbing man before the cloud shit, most marvel comic fans would call Hulk a masterpiece. they only hinted at what could've been done when absorbing man turned into rock. he could have touched... wood and turned into Groot the Monster from Planet X who once, when controlled by Xemnu the Living Titan, fought hulk by shooting painful little splinters at him. he could've become water and mud and been a combo hydro- and sandmans. it could've been epic. weeds and moss equaling The Glob. Etc and etc with the army heading in with the gamma bomb to turn bruce into the Maestro or grey Hulk for the sequel. and maybe they should've used Hulk's ghost-vision powers to sort've "see" his violent past, instead of those over the top and hammy backflashes. someone, reboot this Incredible Hulk movie so that we Hulk 2 please.
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He brings a sense of gravitas and seriousness, actually the whole cast does, they really take this seriously and you can tell it works unlike say the spider-man series. Norton pulls off Banner who is not a nerd and feels like he has something heavy weighing on him, i also like that he gave this sense like the comics that banner isn't sad, despair ridden or angry about being hulk, but dissapointed. Though i'm sure the Norton cut was better.
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since hardly anyone saw the Nick Fury scene, they realized that they wanted people to see it. Really the Nick fury scene should have been on after the actor credits, ie cut back in. so people catch it, and not be seen by the many reports of a few people in theatres.
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seriously. The Gamma bomb and Banner trying to save Rick Jones is far more profound and iconic than sitting in a chair and blood goes wrong. Though I came up with a Retcon. The Gamma bomb did happen and he did save Rick Jones and it turned Banner into Grey Hulk, though only once and so they wanted to experiment to see what happened and then they did the credits sequence experiment which turned him into Green Hulk and so on. I am a genius. Hire me Feige.
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though ironically one of the transport managers was called Rick Jones.
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rather than 2. Hulk Smash and Betty is not enough. he should also have said "hulk stronger than puny human".
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there are plenty of other movies. there are generally 3 superhero movies a year, out of 400 ish released. you fucking idiot.
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FUCK!!!!!
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try puppykillers. that video's been all over the place.
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so is the reboot essentially only the intro credits?first movie = origin movie, ended with banner in brazil. second movie picks up with banner in brazil. how is this not a sequel that just ignores the original? (kind of like Superman Returns... except for the whole kid plot point).
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Jun 12, 2008 8:52:58 AM CDT
Smulk Hash salmonela tainted lack of action in Sudan's tomatoes
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 8:55:15 AM CDT
Smulk Hash Ann Coulter's fatty sugary processed chimp face
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:10:21 AM CDT
Smulk Hash people who Ruin government "treehugger" Starbucks
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:13:56 AM CDT
Smulk Hash people who bypass reality for hanging cluster suck
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:16:02 AM CDT
Smulk Hash polygamist Wal-Mart and intelligent Paris Hilton
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:18:16 AM CDT
Smulk Hash fatty Tucker Carlson who gets Spike Lee pregnant for
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:21:41 AM CDT
Smulk Hash Catholic culture of high calorie gay pornography
by greentealite
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We loveed this film, very enteraining, Character stuff was inviolving. We loved shield, Nick fury and Stark industries being all over the movie. The two endings were perfect and I just can't believe it's 2 years till another Marvel studios movie!
I just hope the fox don't sour people's opinions with a sub-standard wolverine movie, as I think a lot of people are into the Marvel Movieverse now, and won't see that the Fox movies (& to a lesser extent spiderman) are NOT of the same universe.
(ps i know there's a Punisher redo coming out, but I'm not sure that is "connected2 as Iron man T.I Hulk and the others are / will be. -
I guess this Node asswipe has not one intelligent thought in his head, because he is, by far, the most annoying, childish little fuck on this site. Sitting in his little computer room, thinking he is funny or clever, sipping on his Jolt cola, jerking off to the lingerie section of the Sears catalog. It's dumb motherfuckers like him that annoy everyone, that's why they have so much time to waste online, because being online IS their life. I like joking and kidding around as much as the next person, and even when I see stupid Damn you Michael Bay posts, at least it's just one or two times, not like this pathetic fuck. Grow up, stop sucking on your momma's tit and go get a life, leave the intelligent people alone.
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Jun 12, 2008 9:46:19 AM CDT
Smulk Hash rednecks that broke THE Ohio State University (It;'s
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:48:58 AM CDT
Smulk Hash pro-decapitators Alito, Krauthammer, Wolfowitz
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 9:50:17 AM CDT
Smulk Hash 'war on 24 rednecks' mindless family networks
by greentealite
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the last one is too easy
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Jun 12, 2008 10:11:02 AM CDT
Smulk Hash Pluto mafia for 6 year old Silvio Burlesconi
by greentealite
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Jun 12, 2008 10:13:03 AM CDT
Smulk Hash Italian Shiite union who say Paula Abdul not drugs
by greentealite
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This is, in my mind, my best work I've done this site, and I'll preserve it while it's good by discontinuing Smulk. Godspeed.
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This Node asshole can't say anything with one ounce of intelligence, thus proving my earlier comments that he is probably 12 years old and has no life and thinks he is being clever, when actually it is not even annoying, it's just pathetic. Come on Node you little pussy, say something other than your dumb Hulk smash shit, you can't, and you won't you dumb fuck.
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...should be closed, it's totally pointless now. Just an idiot saying Hulk smash, what a waste.
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you wouldn't like him when hes angry
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Dear Node32774I want to talk about the goddamn motherfucking Incredible Hulk and this is my only viable option, but you are ruining it with your asinine dribblings. Shut the fuck up, for fuck's sake. Go outside. Masturbate. Eat a delicious omlette. Anything. Just please piss off and let people talk about The Incredible Hulk.Thanks, buddy.All the best,Frank.
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people have been banned for less than this.
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If you do, I will come to your house and jerk you off if it will shut you the fuck up. That's a free handjob within a reasonable travelling distance I'm offering. I'll just close my eyes and imagine you are Rob Lowe.Come on, mate, give it a rest.
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Because he thinks he is clever, or annoying, or both. But he is none of those, he is just a dumb gutless pussy.
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Is that this moron is being allowed to keep doing this dumb shit. Ban him, close the talkback, christ do SOMETHING, or else it will just encourage other little boys to do the same dumb shit.
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Can it be true?Can I talk about Hulk now?
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Okay, I reckon Marvel Studios is 2 and 0 this summer. Two films, two thoroughly enjoyable blockbusters.I just saw it, and while I don't think The Incredible Hulk is quite as good as Iron Man, it's pretty damn close. I loved the nods to the series and to the other Marvel characters (SHIELD, Captain America, Iron Man, Avengers), and I thought Leterrier and his army of computer monkeys did a very solid job of giving us the type of Hulk film most people want to see - a film where The Hulk and another giant moster smash the living shit out of each other and everything around them. The CGI is, admittedly, on the cartoonish side, but the film was entertaining enough that I was prepared to go along for the ride anyway. Man, I just realised I sound like a plant. Ah, fuck it, who cares.Also, Omar out of The Wire was in it. Only for a split second, but I would recognise Omar anywhere. I love that amoral bastard.
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I love the duel meaning of the acronym of yer name. Is cap in the final cut of the film then?
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Jesus, I feel like the only nerd in the world who's seen this film.
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Just checking. I'll answer if you want.P.S. What do you mean about the acronym?
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why whatever do you mean? yeah i'm game for spoilers, it aint BSG is it? and the acronym can stand for Fuck The Mags. in fact when someone used it on a message to you the other day i initially assumed they were fellow makems *sigh*
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That's cool that you dig the Hulk. More and more I think I'll catch a matinee next week for this.
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The balls to you was a gentle ribbing for re-starting the Node nonsense. No offense meant, buddy.As to the acronym, I claim ignorance. It's just my name. Franklin Thomas Marmoset. Call me Frank, though. Everybody does. I'm not sure what Fuck The Mags means, I'm afraid, or what a makem is. Sorry about that.If you want spoilers (nobody read if you don't want spoilers because there are spoliers in this bit), General Ross mentions that the experiments Banner was doing were linked to 'Supersoldier' experiments carried out during WWII. I did not see Captain America himself. SHIELD is all over the film, and there is a nice cameo from RDJ at the very end (not after the titles - there's nothing after the titles) where Stark tells Ross he's interested in this Hulk fellow because he's putting a team together. No mention of whether he has Thor's mobile number or not.
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Mackem= Someone from Sunderland. Ignorant southern get.
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how they are gonna handle that whole 'thor is a mythical deity but all pantheons of the gods exist alongside each other'. do you think they could go down the ultimate route except make him an actual escaped mental patient? they have already got the ultimate nick fury after all
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If you liked Iron Man, jpt, I reckon Hulk is a safe bet for you. It's not quite as good, partly because the lead character doesn't have the same enjoyable charisma as Tony Stark, but I really liked it. You will have to be a little forgiving of the CGI, however, because it is on the cartoony side, especially toward the end. Still, the action side of things is nicely done, and it escalates well throughout the film. Stuff does indeed get smashed in this one. Lots of stuff, and I do not mean muscular poodles.
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What the hell do I know about football and Newcastle? I'm from Bristol. We have two teams and I don't give a monkey's about either of them, so I really don't care about anyone else's.I appreciate the information, though.
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You've got to be a fan of irrational xenophobia though...
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You had me until muscular poodles. Who doesn't want Hulked poodles in the movie? Right? Node? This summer is shaping up pretty nicely it seems...
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Who knows how they'll handle Thor. I've not read a comic in over ten years, so I don't know too much about this Ultimate business. I suppose it'll depend on what they do with Thor's own film, which seems to be slated for a release before they get around to The Avengers. My guess is they'll create a more human version of Thor, leaving out some of the more mythological elements. I can't see how he would fit in otherwise. Do you remember when Thor teamed up with the old Bill Bixby Hulk for a TV movie? Funny stuff. Funny, funny stuff. Hopefully, the new version won't be quite so daffy.As for irrational xenophobia, how dare you suggest such a thing! I am a nice guy, I reckon. I like all of our global friends, even Germans. Alright, maybe not Germans...
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i'm the one with irrational xenophobia. and i do remeber that tv ep. gosh, thor was done badly in that.
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Clearly you're a man with several meaningful human relationships and important, fulfilling work. Obviously you're not a pea-brained birth defect.
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The Hulk turns a car into boxing gloves! Boxing gloves!!! There's no need for poodles once you've seen that.
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the best bit is when Thor keeps asking Banner to "get his troll out" so they can keep fighting. Either that or when they go to the pubTruly hysterical
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nobody likes the Welsh. Not even the welsh. They're just one buggered sheep away from being darwinned.
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Oh, well. I'm off then. Enjoy the rest of the day, Ain't It Cool types.Not you, Node. You suck.
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had already smashed birth defects?
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HULK DOGS BEST FRIENDS TO HULK! HULK DOGS ONLY HURT HULK IN MOVIE! IT CALLED ACTING!
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Hulk? Node angry at good reviews of Hulk movie not Lee's? Node sad?
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HULK HATE RATS! HATE HULK RATS MORE!!
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WHALES MIND OWN BUSINESS, JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE LIKE HULK! HULK SMASH STUPID WHALING SHIPS! HULK SAVE WHALES!
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HULK LIKE DESERT, BUT HULK ALSO LIKE JUNGLES! HULK CAN HIDE IN JUNGLES! IF PUNY HUMANS CUT DOWN ALL TREES, HULK AND LITTLE MONKEY FRIENDS GOT NOWHERE TO HIDE! AARGH!! HULK SMASH PUNY HUMANS WITH CHAINSAWS!
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...CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HULK SMASH AND DIDN'T SMASH! BUT IF HULK IN DOUBT, HULK SMASH AGAIN! RAARGH!!
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HULK'S CARIBOU FRIENDS SCARED OF PUNY HUMANS AND THEIR STUPID MACHINES! HULK NOT SCARED! HULK SMASH! PUNY HUMANS WANT MORE POWER? HULK GIVE THEM ALL THE POWER THEY CAN HANDLE! RAARGH!!
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STUPID LITTLE BUSH MAN AND HIS PUNY BOSS CHENEY THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING! HULK SMASH PUNY HUMAN CORPORATIONS AND WINDFALL PROFITS! HULK SMASH PUNY HUMAN PROGRESS! HULK WANT TO GO BACK TO NATURE! HULK ONLY WEAR STUPID PURPLE PANTS BECAUSE PUNY HUMAN SOCIETY CAN'T HANDLE HULK IN THE BUFF! REEARGH! HULK SMASH...WAIT...WHAT HULK WANT TO SMASH AGAIN? NO MATTER! HULK SMASH!!
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That while Node32774 is spamming all of this. He is like crying. Not like aww a teardrop, but nasty snot all over his face just streams of water out of his eyes, bawling at the top of his lungs. So loud that his dog is barking at him and he gets pissed and punches the dog because he can't handle his emotions. Just all NO! I hate the HULK! No one can like the Hulk! Why won't he just die and leave me alone!
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STUPID ROCK MAN THINK HE STRONGER THAN HULK! STUPID ROCK MAN WRONG! AND HE MAKE STUPID JOKES! HULK SMASH THING INTO ROCK PILE! HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!
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WTF? Are you TRYING to get yourself banned? Or have you just lost your Nodemind? Cut the spamming out dude. It is beneath you.
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PUNY IRON MAN SAY HE FRIEND TO HULK! BUT IRON MAN FRIEND TO MILITARY! MILITARY HURT HULK! IRON MAN A STUPID LIAR, JUST LIKE ALL PUNY HUMANS! HULK SMASH IRON MAN!
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HULK GO WHERE HULK WANT TO GO! HULK A HULK OF THE WORLD! HULK NOT NEED A STUPID VISA! HULK SMASH VISAS! STUPID BORDERS! HULK HAS NO BORDERS!
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HULK'S MIND A BLANK! HULK'S HEAD START TO HURT WHEN HULK THINK TOO MUCH!
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it can be seen as a sequel or a reboot, but really it is a reboot, the origin is different, most things are different.
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MARVEL SAYING HULK NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN FIRST MOVIE! MARVEL SAY HULK STUPID! HULK SAY MARVEL STUPID! HULK REBOOT MARVEL!
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HULK BEAT PUNY HUMAN QUINT'S PUNY ARM WITH HULK PINKIE! THIS NOT EVEN A QUESTION! HULK SMASH ANYONE WHO QUESTION HULK POWER! HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!
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PUNY HUMAN NOT SAY "MEH" WHEN HULK SMASHES PUNY HUMAN'S FACE!
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STUPID HUMAN QUESTIONS! SHAMU FRIEND TO HULK! SHAMU IS HULK'S BEST FRIEND! "FREE WILLIE" IS HULK'S FAVORITE MOVIE! HULK NOT WANT PUNY HUMANS TO GET WRONG IDEA! SHAMU WHALE HULK'S FRIEND!
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HULK A TROPICAL HULK! HULK PREFER WARM JUNGLES AND DESERTS! HULK NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PUNY HUMANS WANT TO LIVE WHERE IT COLD! CANADIANS AND ESKIMOES STUPID! IT NOT MAKE SENSE IN NEW HULK MOVIE IF HULK IN SNOW BECAUSE HULK NOT BE THERE IN FIRST PLACE! STUPID HULK MOVIE WRITERS!
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HULK JUST JOKING! HULK COULD CARE LESS ABOUT PRICE OF GAS! IF HULK WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE, HULK JUST JUMP THERE! AND HULK NEVER RUN OUT OF GAS!
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HEH! HULK JUST JOKE AGAIN! HULK NOT CARE! HULK HATE TOMATOES! ALWAYS ASK BURGER KING TO REMOVE YUCKY RED THINGS FROM HULK-SIZED WHOPPER! AND HULK NOT KNOW WHAT SALMONELLA IS ANYWAY! THAT A KIND OF FISH?
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HA HA! YOU PUNY HUMANS SUCKER FOR HULK JOKES! HULK NOT CARE ABOUT TAXES, EITHER! NOBODY TAX HULK BECAUSE HULK NOT MAKE ENOUGH EARNED INCOME CREDIT LAST YEAR! HULK SAY "BAH!' TO PUNY IRS!
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it's not that easy being green
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Im at my shitty job laughing at this clown. "Hulk Smash cheap, abrasive toilet paper" Indeed.
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If Capt America was going to be in the Hulk movie, and Nick Fury was in the Iron Man movie, and Punisher had a brief background scene in Spiderman 2, and Spiderman was in a deleted scene from X-Men 1, then how does this help catch moose and squirrel?
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Ban this faggot Node already? Doesn't anyone who works on this site see what is going on here? Why would anyone let this dumb fuck keep doing this stupid bullshit? Anywhere else his mamma's boy pimply ass would have been banned ages ago, he doesn't even have the balls to try and justify his childish moronic actions. Oh, right, because he can't, or else his mommy might get mad at him.
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http://media.movies.ign.com/media/382/382367/vids_1.html
http://tinyurl.com/3grxcq
Let the battle of the reboots begin. Reboot Reboot coming soon. -
There really is going to be a Reboot Reboot.
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I will not read this. I am not listening. I just read the part at the end that indicated the movie was worth seeing. I need to go in as cold as possible to enjoy it. I am positive it will smash the piss out of Ang Lee's fuck up.
I have read nothing but good comments so far from comic and non comic fans. My reaction this weekend. I am pumped to see this superior requel. -
in terms of who's the better bruce banner there you have it.
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fat. Take that! Poop-a-tastic, my penishound choad worshipping butt pixies! Penisfrapple!
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Jun 13, 2008 12:00:33 AM CDT
smoke monster south america is where the similarities end
by slappy jones
in terms of linking the first film to this one. this has a completely different backstory. origin story than the other hulk film. This is definitely a reboot. not linked in anyway to the first film. In fact it feels like a sequel to a film that was never made.
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http://tinyurl.com/65goan
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I might have loved it, it was different then ang Lee's but much more badass and cool. Live and Edward were perfect.
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I might have loved it, it was different then ang Lee's but much more badass and cool. Liv and Edward were perfect.
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Keep up the good work, fine sir!
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7 years of bad luck
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I reckon I can make it by mixing instant mashed potato mix with either green food colouring or possibly chives or some other green vegetable.Mmmmmm, Hulkilicious...P.S. I just wanted to let Node know he's still an asshole. Hey, Node! You're an asshole!
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I know you're upset about the Happening, but this will lead to the ban hammer
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Maybe that Hulk Smash thing is too parochial a joke. I don't know. Maybe the English readers will like it.P.S. Hey, Node! Guess what?
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i'm impressed with nodes stamina
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Here's hoping Marvel gets all their properties back at some point and reboots them all.
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No mas. I give up. Also, I have been smashed, which it turns out is more embarrasing and itchy than painful.
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Go watch some shitty Ang Lee Hulk and give it a rest, yah noob.
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at least hulk didn't smash fiesta *ahem*
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"I stick with buttfuck cowboys from now on. Hulk no good for me."
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one will work, I promise
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I used to be underrated
Now I take iron, makes my s*** constipated
I´m more concentrated.
So on my day off,
With David Sonnenberg I play golf
Run through Crown Heights screaming out Mazel Tov -
Now my helmet's on, you can't tell me I'm not in space
With the National Guard United States Enterprise
Diplomat of swing with aliens at my feet
Comin' down the rampart through beam on the street
Obsolete computes, compounds and dead sounds
As I locate intricately independent
Economic rhymer got savoury store food
In Capsule D my program is ability
For a reaction and response to a no-one
Identification Code: Unidentified -
If you really wanna party with me.. In God We Trust (what?)
Yo it's a must that you heard of us yo we murderous (uh!)
A lot of niggaz is wonderin and they furious (what?)
How me and my niggaz do it, it's so mysterious (that's true)
Furious, all of my niggaz is serious (huh!)
Shook niggaz be walkin around fearin us (what?)
Front nigga, like you don't wanna be hearin us (no!)
Gotta listen to hot radio yo be playin us (ahh)
Thirty time a day shit'll make you delirious (what?) -
I been in this game for years, it made me a animal
It's rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual
A step by step booklet for you to get
your game on track, not your wig pushed back
Rule nombre uno: never let no one know
how much, dough you hold, cause you know
The cheddar breed jealousy 'specially
if that man fucked up, get your ass stuck up
Number two: never let em know your next move
Don't you know Bad Boys move in silence or violence
Take it from your highness (uh-huh)
I done squeezed mad clips at these cats for they bricks and chips
Number three: never trust no-bo-dy
Your moms'll set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodie to mask up, shit, for that fast buck
she be layin in the bushes to light that ass up
Number four: know you heard this before
Never get high, on your own supply
Number five: never sell no crack where you rest at
I don't care if they want a ounce, tell em bounce
Number six: that god damn credit, dead it
You think a crackhead payin you back, shit forget it
Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two dicks and no bitch
Find yourself in serious shit
Number eight: never keep no weight on you
Them cats that squeeze your guns can hold jobs too
Number nine shoulda been number one to me
If you ain't gettin bags stay the fuck from police (uh-huh)
If niggaz think you snitchin ain't tryin listen
They be sittin in your kitchen, waitin to start hittin
Number ten: a strong word called consignment
Strictly for live men, not for freshmen
If you ain't got the clientele say hell no
Cause they gon want they money rain sleet hail snow
Follow these rules you'll have mad bread to break up
If not, twenty-four years, on the wake up
Slug hit your temple, watch your frame shake up
Caretaker did your makeup, when you pass
Your girl fucked my man Jake up, heard in three weeks
she sniffed a whole half of cake up
Heard she suck a good dick, and can hook a steak up
Gotta go gotta go, more pies to bake up, word up, uhh -
As you call em, they call you when they need somethin
Trees for the blunt 'n, to g's for the frontin
I found a way to get piece of mind for years
And left the hell alone, turn a deaf ear to the cellular phone
Send me a letter, or better, we could see each other in real life
Just so you could feel me like a steel knife
At least so you could see the white of they eyes
Bright wit surprise, once they finish spittin lies -
...that South Korean boxer fucktard who refused to leave the ring after having his ass handed to him in the Olympics. He was still sitting there after they turned the lights out.
C'mon, Node. The revolution's over. You lost. Get over it. Maybe it will improve your taste in films. -
This is the weirdest talkback I have ever seen. Keep it up.
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Pretty please? ☺
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Jun 13, 2008 6:49:52 PM CDT
i admire nodes resourcefulness in coming up with so many hulk sm
by mr_x
good work sir
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I have absolutely no problem with any of the stuff involved with the 'reboot', in fact, I think it was an awesome idea. And I'm glad they didn't bother with an origin story.Because I still preferred Ang Lee's movie to most of the development of this. I was fond of all the more comic/TV-show references throughout, and this was hands-down Bruce Banner, but I thought Ang Lee's re-imagining of what went on to actually turn Banner into the Hulk inside his head was great and more interesting than the plain old Banner stuff in this film.The action, particularly the final fight in this, the villain was also much better. Although I actually dug Nolte's crazy dad character way more than Roth's Blonsky. But when they transformed, Abomination paid off and Absorbing Man was way too underutilized. Though the scene of Lightning-Absorbing-Man and Hulk fighting in the clouds was one of the most amazing 5 seconds I've ever seen.I think the perfect Hulk film would've been the ending of this one with the rest of the first one, because I preferred the Hulk's jumping scenes (why did they completely cut that out?) and fights with the Army in the first one, the sonic cannons in this one aside. But as is, I think these two films actually go together perfectly and have completely different strengths, which is attributed to the reboot factor of the second, which kind of does wonders for the first as a standalone 'different interpretation' of the Hulk, but also gives the second one the sort of importance that a first film in a series usually has.
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Now I'm angry. ANGRY LIKE HULK!
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Jun 18, 2008 12:13:43 AM CDT
My bastard child, Node32774, has been removed from the TBs.
by youareallmybastardchildren
His slut mother and I have revoked his internet privileges. He is my bastard child and that is my right.
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