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An Interesting Update On The New MUPPET Movie...

Published at: June 9, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
A while back, we learned that Jason Segel and Nick Stoller had teamed with Disney to bring The Muppets back to the big screen. Which, to many (including myself), is pretty rockin' news. Still, it was hard not to wonder how Segel and Stoller...whose R-rated FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL was released recently...would approach the project. After all, they didn't seem the most obvious choice to resurrect the franchise. Recent interviews have indicated the team was going for a surprisingly traditional Muppet movie. But, a new interview over at IESB reveals how traditional it'll be. And, for my money, they seem to be heading in exactly the right direction...
IESB: Do you think you will try to get Paul Williams back? JS: Oh yeah, absolutely. Those songs were the best. We've written temp songs but we'd like to fill them in with legitimate musician songs. IESB: And the hope is to stay 100% traditional with the Muppets right? JS: Oh yeah, absolutely. IESB: No CGI Muppets or some horseshit. JS: No, no, no. Hopefully it will fall right in the pantheon of The Great Muppet Caper, Muppets Take Manhattan, Muppet Movie, you know, we're trying to make one of those.
...says THIS INTERVIEW at IESB, which goes on to discuss a few more details (obliquely hinting at a PIGS IN SPACE appearance).

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  • June 9, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Tight.

    by mefrog

    Looking forward to it.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed Muppets in Space

    by Series7

  • June 9, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    second?

    by gregniz

  • June 9, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Muppets

    by Jawa 007

    rule. Hope there's a cameo/song by Weezer.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Sweet.

    by Anna Valerious

    He had also said in another interview that Statler and Waldorf have a huge part in it...

  • June 9, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    muppets take manhatten def. my fav

    by gregniz

  • June 9, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Forgetting Sarah Marshall = WAY overrated

    by odysseus

    I didn't see a lot of talent in the writing or directing of that film -- so it's hard to imagine them pulling off the wit and visual flair needed for a Muppet movie....

  • June 9, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    no cgi?

    by Bouncy X

    so kermit will still have those bars under his arms visible? damn.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Rainbow Connection

    by BRUTICUS

    that was a great song

  • June 9, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    I liked Muppet Treasure Island

    by chrth

    Except for when the Castrati sang. Ugh.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    And God said:

    by Therealumlaut

    Remake everything.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    You know

    by Series7

    I think Leslie Mann and her best friend should be allowed to reboot the Spiderman series. Since they liked the first ones and know how to spell Spiderman. Plus Leslie Mann's had Judd Apatows dick in her mouth on more then one occasion.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    jonah hill...

    by doodah

    looks like a fat frickin muppet, so he'll prolly be in it.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I fell asleep in a theater during Muppets in Space

    by INWOsuxRED

    I think these guys are taking on a nearly impossible mission, but I wish them luck.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    I like Paul Williams

    by unclemeat

    Even though he has some corny songs, his episode in the 1st season of the Muppet Show is one of my favorites. I've seen it countless times with my 3 year old daughter.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Shit, I was hoping Guillermo Del Toro was helming it.

    by Mosquito March

    Just imagine Beeker with no eyes, and a mouth in his stomach, and big floppy proto-wings hanging off his back.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    FIRST

    by nobletoast13

    to mention GONE?

  • June 9, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Series 7

    by offscauta

    Spider-man is spelt with a hyphen. This gets my pedantry out of my system for the day.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    There Will Be Muppets

    by IAmLegolas

    God I hope they stick with that found oil under the theater idea, and cast Daniel Day-Lewis... "Don't be thick with me, Gonzo."

  • June 9, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I would love the Muppets to regain some magic.

    by rbatty024

    It's an interesting approach, hiring these guys. I actually enjoyed Muppets From Space, so I think the bigger challenge isn't so much quality as it is marketability. Will people still go to the theater to watch puppets?

  • June 9, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    All FSM characters were dislikeable and unfunny.

    by MEGAN FOXX MALICIOUS SENSE OF IRONY

    I shudder to think how Miss Piggy will be portrayed... As stunningly dull as Sarah Marshall, whose only distinguishing characteristic is blondeness no doubt - to paraphrase Chris Tookey.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    They Need to Remember...

    by ZooTrain

    That the Muppets started out as being for adults. That was what made the Muppet Show great. That was what made The Muppet Movie and the Great Muppet Caper Great. They forgot that, and we got Muppets in Space and that godawful Wizard of Oz thing. They also need to remember that humans should not be the stars of the films. That's what ruined Muppet Treasure Island for me. It should focus on the Muppets with humans in cameo roles. And "Rainbow Connection" is one of the greatest songs ever composed for the screen. It's the theme song of my generation.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    I thought Paul Williams was dead.

    by tonagan

    Color me surprised.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Bring Tim Curry back!

    by CuervoJones

  • June 9, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Muppets From Space=Funkiest Film Ever

    by Massage...Bored

    The soundtrack saved that film from being DTV.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    cant wait for transformers 2

    by ingloriousjedi

    I'd like to see Kermit riding miss piggy. Not in a sexual way, but like how Stewie rode Peter. Perhaps on their way to a castle.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    i mean brian

    by ingloriousjedi

  • June 9, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Muppet Christmas Carol

    by Mithrandirrt

    The best Dickens incarnation on celluloid.

  • June 9, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Chris Tucker as Kermit

    by ChrisTuckersOnlyFan

  • June 9, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Dr Strangepork

    by Yeti

    or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and love Bacon

  • June 9, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Damn, that was harsh

    by Kentucky Colonel

    but pretty funny

  • June 9, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Well, on the bright side

    by chewyou812

    there shouldn't be any more appearances of Jason Segel's Wang.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    To Danny Glover

    by ZooTrain

    In its first four weeks of release, Forgetting Sarah Marshall grossed over $50 million. As of June 1, it has grossed $60 million. It only cost $30 million to make. I'm not saying that it's the greatest film, or the funniest film, ever made, but it was hardly a trainwreck. Speed Racer, in its first four weeks, only made $40 million. So, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, a movie with a relatively unknown cast, made more money than the special effects laden extravaganza Speed Racer. I think that's respectable.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    FSM considered a success

    by YouIgnorantGeeks

    Danny, where you getting that it tanked? As someone already said it made almost triple its budget (budget of 30 million, made 61 million in USA and another 24 million on top of that world wide) and odds are will do great on DVD... The movie came out on April 18th, and it has been a top 10 movie all the way until this weekend when it was bumped off. FSM one of the best movies of the year so far, and probably JUDDco.'s best movie. 40 year old virgin and knocked up were overrated and not as funny. Superbad was great... but FSM even better.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Muppets Take Manhattan

    by jabbayoda

    Muppets Take Manhattan is easily the shittiest Muppet movie I have ever seen.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I thought Paul Williams was dead...

    by Kid Z

    ...but maybe I'm confusing him with Dudley Moore.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    jabbayoda, watch the post-Jim movies

    by necgray

    Manhattan is my least favorite of the Jim Henson Muppet movies, but it's still waaaaay better than Muppets from Space, Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Wizard of goddam Oz. At least in Manhattan the Muppets were still the stars.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Franchise! Franchise! Franchise!

    by WS

    Since we've all started referring to a series of movies as a "franchise" (as if we worked for the corporations that funded those movies), why not go the extra mile and start calling movies "commodities". "I saw an interesting commodity the other day." "Oh? What's it about?" "What're you? Some kind'a homo? Who gives a shit?"

  • June 9, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Make it a sequel to Caper.

    by Nice Marmot

    And bring back Charles Grodin!!!!

  • June 9, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    freaking awesome

    by necgray

    Ah, I LOVE the CGI reply. I love that they're trying to get Paul Williams back. Talk of Pigs in Space. Using the words "very traditional". Man, I can't wait for this...

  • June 9, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Paul Williams is very much alive.

    by Lenny Nero

    He made an appearance in "Rules of Attraction," and then the next year I saw him at a Scissor Sisters concert in Los Angeles, where I told him how much I fucking loved "Phantom of the Paradise." So yes, the musical short man is still kicking. <p>And it's "Muppets FROM Space," thank you very much.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    absolutely, Marmot

    by necgray

    I'll sometimes throw that movie in just to watch the Grodin/Piggy singing number. "Fantasy, Miss Piggy..." That shit is funny EVERY time I watch it.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Anyone heard anything new 'bout Power of the Dark Crystal?

    by Shermdawg

  • June 9, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Well, Fireproof, since it's in production...

    by necgray

    I guess you'll have to get over your "hard time". Instead of doing my usual and getting pissed off at you because you're a naysaying douche, how about I reason with you? See, it doesn't make any sense to release a Muppet movie involving CGI because the Muppets are a brand. Strictly from a business POV, Muppets are a brand. And when you support a brand, you want to make it stand out from your other brands. What makes Muppets stand out? The fact that they are live puppets. Pixar is the CGI wing of Disney. If the Muppets have only a "very small group of online Muppet geeks", why did Disney buy them out? Oh, right, because they make money. And the "very small group of online Muppet geeks" would be taken aback by CGI Muppets. And probably by the removal of the sticks, though I suspect that would get overlooked quickly enough as long as the puppets were, you know, PUPPETS. And there's nothing "supposed" about Muppet purists, as evident by Segel's responses as well as the responses your sweet, not at all douchey self garners on these talkbacks. Am I going to have to put up with you every time some awesome new news comes out on this?

  • June 9, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Fuck the Sarah Marshall haters

    by Pennsy

    For once, for bloody once, a movie that lived up to the hype. May it get a crapload of Golden Globe musical/comedy nominations in December for Segel, Kristen Bell, Russell Brand and Mila Kunis. The movie, too. Yesterday was the movie's final matinee performance in the Philadelphia area. It was the little movie that could.

  • June 9, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Interesting

    by kafka07

    Well whadda ya know? That actually is pretty interesting muppet news.

  • June 9, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Muppet producers don't get it

    by BizarroJerry

    It seems to me that the more recent Muppet movies were looked at as kids' movies that adults can like, too. I know they're puppets and stuff, but the Muppets should be approached as movies for older folks, that kids can like.

  • June 9, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Muppet Treasure Island fucking ruled

    by SpyGuy

    If you don't like "Cabin Fever," you have no soul.

  • June 9, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Without Henson, it's not a Muppets movie

    by Sithdan

    All of the Muppet projects sucked ass since the untimely demise of Jim Henson. This movie will fail!!!

  • June 9, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I want to see..

    by Moviekiller

    ..Kermit give the pink sock to Miss Piggy

  • June 9, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    MUPPET-KATA!

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Please have Fozzie die, and show lots of Animal and the Electric Teeth Band. And leave Ms. Piggy completely out of it. Don't include her at all or acknowledge that she was ever in the show / series. And make Rolff be an alcoholic dog.

  • June 9, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Nosferatu

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It's okay, get a hold of yourself. I know that "Rainbow Connection" is a good song, but you need to secure that shit. After you're done reading this, punch the first person you next encounter, repeatedly, until they bleed, and until rainbows no longer have a place in your world of MANLINESS

  • June 9, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Mustache enthusiast

    by password.swordfish

    Robot Chicken's behind the music with the Electric Teeth Band was fucking hilarious. Man, I miss the muppets.

  • June 9, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    So Can We Expect...

    by Alen Smithee

    Full-frontal muppet nudity?

  • June 9, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    How 'bout a Seth Green Muppet movie?

    by bswise

    Count Blah says, "Blah!"

  • June 9, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    I loved the Muppets

    by rogueleader66

    The Muppet Show is such a classic, so many great bits. The one with Mark Hamill is hilarious..."I can gargle gershwin", great stuff. That is something I would like to see resurrected, although I couldn't see it being nearly as good with out Jim Henson. I hope that a new Muppet movie stays true to the characters, it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

  • June 9, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Spyguy, I actually DID like Cabin Fever

    by necgray

    Muppet Treasure Island came closest to the Henson films for me, and that number was one of the reasons. Still, there were far too many humans in critical roles for my liking. Particularly Jim. I like Kermit as the Captain, but the Captain was not the main character. Which should always be Kermit. Or at least a Muppet. Which is what Muppets from Space got right, but then they used unoriginal music (BAD!) and they explained Gonzo (supremely, borderline insanely BAD!).

  • June 9, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Speaking of puppets..that Hoth diorama

    by skimn

    .. is that the Marty Feldman Taun Taun?

  • June 9, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Fireproof, glad you addressed my points

    by necgray

    Ah, wait, you didn't. Nevermind.

  • June 9, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Brunomac re: appeal

    by necgray

    As Disney has discovered, the Muppets still have great appeal to kids. And as their DVD distributors have no doubt discovered, the Muppets still have great appeal to nostalgics. I got one word for you if you question the marketability of Muppets: Transformers. And the reason I'm so excited about Segel's attitude is that he, like me, feels that the Muppets are meant to be enjoyed by EVERYONE, not just children. Which has been my main complaint about Disney's approach to them. By the way, I definitely hold Kermit and Piggy and Gonzo dear. Am I easily amused? Depends.

  • June 9, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Brian Henson, get with the program!

    by Baked

    Approach a Muppet movie the same way you approach Farscape, man: puppets for adults with an insane number of pop-culture references and a PG rating so kids can come too. Luckily, he got some "mature" comedy guys to write it so at least he isn't setting the bar at kindergarten.

  • June 9, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Old School Muppets fuckin rock!

    by finky089

    Bring on some Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! <p> I wanna see Beaker lay some FLAMING LEG KICKS down on Bunsen for years of abuse, though.

  • June 9, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    actually, node, much to my chagrin

    by necgray

    Back when they did Muppets Tonite! there was a CG character who lived in a monitor. But it was a new character and not one that stuck around after the show went away. Of course, the prawn stuck around and I can't for the life of me figure out why...

  • June 9, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Bear right!

    by bobjustbob

    Frog left!<p><p>Muppets rule.

  • June 9, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    since the appatow people are involved...

    by Bouncy X

    will there be a scene with bert and ernie that goes like "oh ernie, your hands feel so soft on my muppets nuts" ?

  • June 9, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Baked re: Brian

    by necgray

    Unfortunately, Baked, Brian has no control over what happens with the Muppets at this point. Farscape was handled by Henson Creature Workshop, which is no longer affiliated with the Muppets. The Muppets are owned by Disney.

  • June 9, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    oh, goth. You're so funny.

    by necgray

    Even Iron Man got a couple of "shitty" reviews. The vast majority of critics liked FSM. And FSM was #1 for a while. It also had better-than-expected repeat business. So I guess what I'm saying is you're wrong.

  • June 9, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    CGI Muppets =

    by tk 421

    Nipples on the Batsuit, Flames on Optimus Prime etc. etc. etc. Just a bad, bad, bad stupid idea.

  • June 9, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    This movie will really suck...

    by one_crazy_nagger

    if they don't sing Rainbow Connection!

  • June 9, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I'll do you one better, Goth

    by necgray

    Here's the URL to the Rotten Tomatoes SLEW of reviews. 85%, by the way. Which isn't as high as Iron Man, but is waay far from "shitty". <p> http://tinyurl.com/3ma4k5

  • June 9, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT POWER OF THE DARK CRYSTAL?

    by JaPra

    This film is like the ugly step child that NO ONE wants to talk about.<br><br> Does ANYONE have any insider news about this film?

  • June 9, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    SUCCESS

    by TheDudeintheShadows

    that big naked dude has the right fuckin idea. good for him, he's funny as fuck. "and if i see van helsing i swear to the lord i will slay him! HAAHAHA, BLOOD will run down face when he is decapitated! HAAHAHA" cmon, brilliant

  • June 9, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    No fake orgasm, but Miss Piggy DID fake a sneeze...

    by Flim Springfield

    ...in a scene with Billy Crystal on "Muppets Tonight". That was a great show, too bad it didn't last.

  • June 9, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    2 things,paul williams..

    by chainsaw1974

    is great did a great job on the penquins's voice from batman the animated series and please let uncle deadly be in this one!(he was the blue goat like muppet creature always come around when they had the horror guest's like vincent price)

  • June 9, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    dannyglover re: segel

    by necgray

    When I found out that the guy who directed "Made", "Elf", and "Zathura" was directing Iron Man, I was really skeptical. And yet. So give Segel a chance. If he fucks up, he fucks up. But let's not hang the guy before someone has seen a script.

  • June 9, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I They Do a Good Movie That People Want to Watch

    by kevinwillis.net

    It'll do well. Most of the more recent efforts have been mediocre and best, but the right folks could probably make a decent movie. I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with, as new blood might do it.<bR><bR>Or might not. But I'm gonna give it a chance. Especially with Paul Williams working the score. Shweet!

  • June 9, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    And Not the Rainbow Connection isn't a Great Song . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    But what about "I Hope that Something Better Comes Along"? And Gonzo's "I'm Going to Go Back There Someday"--that song is briliant. I loved it 25 frickin years ago and I still love that song. And the ending piece? "Lives like a movie, write your own ending, keep believing, keep pretending . . . "<br><br> I'm just hoping that bring back Doc Hopper. That'd rock.

  • June 9, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    "Life is a movie, write your own ending . . ."

    by kevinwillis.net

    I meant to type. "Keep believing, keep pretending. We did just what we set out to do!" And the pan back with all the muppets ever (up until that point) in the shot . . . awesomeness on a stick.

  • June 9, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    JaPra...

    by Sith Witch

    I recently talked to Wendy Froud, who stated that some of the funders pulled out, but that the creative team is still at work on-and-off-again, waiting for new funders to step forward. She said it IS happening, but it could take a few years.

  • June 9, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    BizarroJerry nails it: "movies for older folks, that kids can li

    by The Wolf at the Door

    I was going to talkback some drivel, but that sums it up perfectly. Frankly, looking back at the old series and the first two or three movies (heck, even Muppets Christmas Carol), I think they have something of a deep, almost nihilistic, nearly cynical edge to them. I think about all the Muppets that eat other Muppets, sometimes at a whim, as well as all the random chaos that always threatens (or simply does) undermine the best intentions of Kermit and co. Kermit is at his best in my opinion when he's either the calm center of the madness or (maybe even better) teetering on insanity in the face of random catastrophes. <br> "It isn't easy being green," "Rainbow Connection," Gonzo's absolutely fantastic "I'm Going to Go Back There Someday" can come off as watered-down crap when they're set in some kind of sugar-high, super-fun-kid-friendly setting. <br> Play those same songs amidst the darkness of uncertainty and doubt, and they become powerful affirmations of the spirit in the face of adversity and doom. (How's that for drivel?) That's what I love about Muppets, and why I think it endures when all the other "you're okay, I'm okay" weak BS we otherwise feed kids won't survive the dispelling realities of growing up.

  • June 9, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Unfortunately Paul Williams is dead

    by MattHooper

    Sad that they don't even know that.

  • June 9, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Paul is NOT dead

    by darthvedder81

    Uh, no MattHooper Paul Williams is NOT dead. (At least according to Wikipedia). I hated "Sarah Marshall" but I'm still willing to give these two dudes a chance. They seem to have the right idea for the project and I'd really like them to get Jerry Nelson and Frank Oz back into the fold for one last go--that would be very special.

  • June 9, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    monster2bpitied...

    by Billy The Fish

    With ya, pal!. Janis, Zoot, Animal, Sergeant Floyd Pepper and Dr. Teeth.<p>Balls to the newly re-formed Police - THAT'S a supergroup!

  • June 9, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    JaPra re: Power of the Crystal

    by necgray

    The woman who is head of publicity for Henson Studios said in a recent podcast that they're moving slowly ahead. They're still planning on a theatrical release and they're still doing CG backgrounds with puppets and animatronics for the characters.

  • June 9, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Muppets Christmas Carol

    by Randall_Flagg

    Is one movie that you HAVE to watch each and every Xmas. Alongside Planes, Trains and Automobiles. Mnah mnah

  • June 9, 2008, 6:13 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by RobFromBackEast

    You're a thick cunt. $30 million budget - $62 domestic gross. Check your facts before posting stupid shit. FSM was funny as fuck. Now go grease up a spoon and eat my ass.

  • June 9, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by RobFromBackEast

    l Just read some of your other posts. You stereotypical, hating, talkbacking assclown. Hack? That's hilarious coming from someone who probably works in Forbidden Planet.

  • June 9, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    FSM made triple its budget.

    by Tourist

    Considering it starred basically unknowns and wasn't really that good, thats a pretty strong performance. Interested in an old school Muppet movie. Not enough to actually pay and go and see it. Thats for the kiddies. VERY interested in the Dark Crystal sequal that seems to have vanished from the face of the earth.

  • June 9, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Fireproof, that's because I haven't seen them

    by necgray

    in every talkback since the first story broke naysaying and talking shit and generally being negative. You, on the other hand, are a consistent DOUCHE. Which I didn't learn from a sock puppet on SNL, thanks. Oh, and would you trash-talkers decide if domestic box office or critical acclaim is the measure by which you're shitting on this and FSM? I'm tired of trying to keep up with your criteria of "bad".

  • June 9, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Actually Lenny...

    by Anna Valerious

    Not only is Williams working on the stage version of "Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas", he's rumored to have been working on a stage version of POTP. I'm guessing that working on the musical version of "Happy Days" has brought his songwriting side out again. Speaking of POTP, DePalma's writing the script for the remake, and I'd actually like to see Williams collaborate with some bands such as My Chemical Romance (Who take a line from "Beauty and the Beast" for their song "Sleep") for it...

  • June 9, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    I love me some muppets

    by jimmay

    Muppets take Manhattan is one of those films I used to watch over and over and over when I was a kid. The Great Muppet Caper, too (Charles Grodin was kind of cool until he started doing those colon-sucking 'Beethoven" movies). I even had a subscription to Muppets magazine. They had all sorts of faux movie posters in every month's issue, with muppets interjected into the lead roles of well known films. As a burgeoning cinephile, it made a connection with me. I guess that's probably one of the best things about the muppets, their comedy is predicated on a well-established and respectful knowledge, and admiration, of Hollywood's grand history.

  • June 9, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Paul WIlliams

    by rxse7en

    Did the original music for "Bugsy Malone" and those songs still haunt me to this day for some reason. That entire movie is available to watch on google video, btw. http://tinyurl.com/3gp9q5 That was a cool little movie when I was a kid as it was entirely casted by kids.

  • June 9, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Muppet Treasure Island + Christmas Carol

    by O_Goncho

    Are milestones of my childhood. They saw me through some rough times :'(

  • June 9, 2008, 9:18 p.m. CST

    dates for ya, Fireproof

    by necgray

    From Space - 1999 <p> Very Merry - 2002 <p> Tonight - 1996 <p> Wizard of Oz - 2005 <p> So of those four examples, only two were within this decade, and those two were TV movies. Any other non-points you want to make?

  • June 9, 2008, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Incidentally, Fireproof, Billy Goats Gruff want

    by necgray

    their bridge back.

  • June 9, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    I watched the original Muppet Movie the other day...

    by DanielKurland

    And I always had fond memories of it, but watching it again, it's definitely in my top five movies of all time. Not only is the film perfect in terms of the muppers, it raises the stakes in terms of doing a "movie" wonderfully and some stuff in it is just goddamn beautiful. That end shot of all the muppets standing in the rainbow beam doesn't even look filmed, it looks like a painting. I could go on and on about this thing for a while.

  • June 9, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST

    AICN hurt Sarah Marshall

    by therealkumar

    AICN was really obnoxious in pushing Sarah Marshall and a lot of people were equally put off by the smothering ad campaign... all those "I hate you Sarah Marshall" posters plastered everywhere. As a result, a lot of people stayed away.

  • June 9, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Please, dear Christ, NO CGI Muppets

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

  • June 9, 2008, 9:53 p.m. CST

    "Muppets" the worst thing about SARAH MARSHALL...

    by BurnHollywood

    For a romantic comedy, it was rolling along pretty good until that stupid puppet musical shit at the end...oh, golly, wasn't that just so lovably WA-A-A-A-ACKY?!

  • June 9, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Jason Segal -- Am I missing something??

    by RicardoMontalban

    Why would the Jim Henson company need a two bit sitcom co-star to resurrect the Muppet Movie franchise? Hey movie fans, check out this great new blog on blogspot called thebitterproducer

  • June 9, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST

    I think Pixar should do this

    by ebonic_plague

    Also there should be a CGI Marlon Brando in there somewhere.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Muppets: Behind the Show

    by br1947

    An R-rated unflinching look into the booze, drugs and sexual escapades of Gonzo and Ms Piggy that led to the cancellation of The Muppet Show. Kermit the Frog narrarates from his cell in the Happy Frog Rehabilitation clinic. "How did it go so wrong? It really isn't being green."

  • June 9, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    RicardoMontalban re: Jason SegEl

    by necgray

    First, the Jim Henson company doesn't need anyone to resurrect the Muppets because the Jim Henson company doesn't own the rights. Disney does. Second, Segel wrote Forgetting Sarah Marshall. So he's a two-bit sitcom co-star and the writer of a critically-acclaimed movie that did some good business. Third, he pitched a script idea to Disney. They didn't come to him. They liked what they heard and greenlit his script.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    I don't give a shit!

    by thebearovingian

    Bring on The Dark Knight! Ya know what I'm sayin'?! Fuck.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Muppet tentacle porn?

    by JKrow21

    I can see Kermit now.

  • June 9, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Fireproof, if it's bad, it's bad

    by necgray

    You seem to confuse me with an apologist. I'm not going to vehemently defend the movie if it's not good. If people REALLY don't care about "low-tech has-been foam rubber and English felt", then I'll accept it and move on. Based on DVD sales, memorabilia sales, and the fact that Disney DID greenlight Segel's script I think you're full of shit, but whatever. Apparently you can't take your own advice and "face facts". If Disney interferes and forces the film to be a kids-only suckfest, then yeah, I'll blame Disney for interfering. If Segel writes a shitty script, I'll blame Segel. IF the movie is bad, it's bad. BUT where you and I differ and where you piss me off (congratulations, troll asshole, you completed your task) is that you don't even seem to want to give the movie a chance. You're condemning it before a script is even written. If you were just some guy who never liked the Muppets, I'd understand. But you CLAIMED to have enjoyed the Muppets. So how can you not even give this a chance? How can you continue to badmouth this project in specific and Muppets in general? Are you secretly an ILM or WETA employee who doesn't want to admit that CGI isn't the answer to everything?

  • June 10, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    hey necgray

    by RicardoMontalban

    you missed my point entirely. i'm just saying, if you or i went to disney with a muppet movie proposal, they wouldn't even let us in the door. i'm just miffed that some sitcom actor can do a muppet movie without any prior muppet background -- it makes little sense.

  • June 10, 2008, 2 a.m. CST

    true enough, Ricardo

    by necgray

    but you could say that about ANY movie in Hollywood. How many armchair moviewriters who frequent this site wrung their hands in fury when Transformers was announced? And I think you're missing the point a little bit, too. It's not like Segel had never written a script. If he didn't have the script for FSM produced, I doubt Disney would have let him in the door, either. If you or I went to Disney with a Muppet movie proposal AND a produced script under our belt, they might give us as much of a chance as they gave Segel.

  • June 10, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    particularly if our produced script was currently

    by necgray

    in the top 10 at the box office. Stoller, the director of FSM, told Segel to pitch the script to Disney while he was riding some buzz.

  • June 10, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Muppets Vs Jason take Manhattan

    by pokadoo

  • June 10, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Cabin Fever!!!

    by pokadoo

    "We've got Cabin Fever...!"

  • June 10, 2008, 3:12 a.m. CST

    The first three muppet films are magic

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    but man I loves me some Feebles. <p> "Your that new boy here Aren't you?"<p> "Yes, I'm Wobert"<p> " Well you may be 'Wobert' to your fwiends, but your fly shit to me! Piss off."

  • June 10, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    necgray...

    by Tourist

    ...Bay had directed many large budget action/sci fi spectaculars prior to Transformers. Jason Segel has done exactly jack shit that qualifies him for a muppet movie. Nothing even close. However, I'd still like him to do it, because I like him as an actor, and fuck, looking at the last, what, ten or so Muppet related piles of garbage, even a talkbacker would be a step up in the creative department.

  • June 10, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Muppets

    by Cobbio

    This is some unexpectedly cool news. A new muppet movie, eh? With Paul Williams writing new music for it? I'll be there. So will more people than its producers expect. Especially if its done well, with good music, laugh-out-loud funny scenes, and Muppets as the stars.<p> I think what hurt "Muppets take Manhattan" a little bit was the young hipness factor. "Let's make it for kids, not for adults," the makers said. It wasn't a horrible film but compared to the Jim Henson films, it didn't quite reach the same plateau, in my opinion.<p> And boy, if Paul Williams can capture some magic by writing new songs as playful and moving as "The Rainbow Connection," that would great too.<p> This last part probably won't happen, but I'm happy they're making the film.

  • June 10, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    ricarleite...

    by Anna Valerious

  • June 10, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Rowlf gotta eat!!!

    by torpedoboy

    Well, he does.

  • June 10, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    ricarleite

    by Anna Valerious

    read my previous posts. It is indeed in the process of being remade. And I hope that our title character gets to sing instead of his teeth involuntarily yanked out...

  • June 10, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    necgray: True that, but...

    by RicardoMontalban

    i agree with what your saying, but it just bothers me that someone with no puppet experience can just come in and take over what many of us hold in high esteem. anyway, you should check out my friends new movie blog on blogspot. it's great. it's called thebitterproducer

  • June 10, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    I have a theory

    by password.swordfish

    People aren't happy unless their bitching. That's about the only thing that can explain the extreme hatred that is constantly spewed on this website about things on which we have very little information. FSM was not a masterpiece, but it made me laugh out loud several times, which was about all I wanted it to do. Am I somewhat skeptical that Segal and crew can pull this off? Yeah, but I love me some muppets, so rather than piss and moan, I'm going to hope for the best.

  • June 10, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    While I don't have necgray's faith,

    by password.swordfish

    I agree that not liking a movie doesn't make it a flop. FSM did decent business and got good reviews (especially for a movie of its kind). gotham, when PROVEN wrong about the critics, you couldn't even admit it, you just came back with some lame comment that was unrelated. Grow up, and accept that you're wrong about FSM (not that you think it was bad, which of course, you can have your own opinion, but in calling it a failure).

  • June 10, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Orson Welles

    by Grand Moff Toht

    was in the original Muppet Movie. For that reason alone, it will never be matched.

  • June 10, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem

    by Dr. Lisa Cuddy

    Would be one of the only reasons to see this movie.

  • June 10, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Gotham_night

    by ZooTrain

    I don't understand how you can say FSM got mostly negative reviews. It has a 67 on Metacritic, an 85 on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 7.8 on IMDB. cost $30 million to make and has, so far, grossed over $60 million domestically. I saw the film; it was good, not great. But Christ...it's not the shitfest you're making it out to be. And Jason Segel was fucking hilarious on "Freaks and Geeks."

  • June 10, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    come see my fight club parody STARRING SMURFS!!!

    by fatmoshe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9PzjUNIPrjU&feature=related

  • June 10, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FORGETTING MISS PIGGY

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • June 10, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Bring back Chuck Grodin!

    by RicardoMontalban

    There was no better human muppet co-star. hey check out this great new movie blog on blogspot. it's called thebitterproducer