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Pixar's John Carter of Mars becoming a reality?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Back when Harry was working on a John Carter project I dove into the Edgar Rice Burroughs series and fell in love with this universe. Bizarre, fantastic, huge...
There's a reason they've been trying to make this movie almost since the beginning of the artform. It's a massive undertaking, huge spectacle and it is unlike anything we've seen on the screen even still to this day.
It's been known that Pixar has had the rights to John Carter for some time now... we assume it's going to be animated, but Pixar's doing that live-action Brad Bird movie at some point, so could it be live action? We still don't have answers to these questions, but what we do have is our first indication that the project is moving forward.
WALL-E's Andrew Stanton let it drop to the Pixar blog that he is developing John Carter of Mars, writing it at this very moment no less.
Exciting times. I've been lucky enough to meet Stanton a few times over this last year, all connected to events surrounding Wall-E, and he's a genuine geek, like us. He's the real deal and Wall-E looks like it's going to be a worthy addition to the outstanding Pixar library. This is terrific news!
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...Tarzanman myself...
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No nudity = bad adaptation. And no more talking animals, thank you very much.
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Is Harry having health issues without health insurance and in need of extra cash? If so, for the sake of retaining street cred, they should say so. What the fuck is up with GONE?
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not selling out, but being sold. this has been happening lately as internet pioneers finally make it big enough to sell the farm and get out.
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Your so gay for selling AICN harry. Sellout.
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They don't seem to like sequels--which is fine since most of their movies don't need them (but I want my INCREDIBLES sequels dammit--and yes, that's plural!). John Carter's Barsoom took more than one book to cover, and it'd be very truncated to stuff everything into one movie. Also how greatly will the change things? They might make a very entertaining movie, but will they make John Carter as the franchise he should be? Tough questions, I'm still not sure if they'll do it right, especially since the live action question is still unclear. I'll give 'em this though, I don't think they'll give us the empty spectacle that every other studio would probably provide. When the best Hollywood can do is the staged posturing of 300, you know there's a problem.
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Two words: Toy Story.
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perhaps they could do the project justice.
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Someone posts a thought and others echo it as fact. Chill out FFS.
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been on the site a bit in the last 24 hours and ive not seen anything about it. Anything Pixar does is fine by me.
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I'm doing my reports just for you. If you sell it I'll stop doing them...and also stop wearing low cut tops. I know the deals already been put in place. I guess all those zero's on the check equal Harry's signature.
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REAL SHAME. IU guess my homepage will now be slashfilm.com
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Quint just confirmed it through his myspace page. Dam. That definitely is not cool news. Who's gonna gun it now, some suit working for Paramount.
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AWESOME!!!
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Jun 07, 2008 7:54:03 AM CDT
Expect comical Tharks and cute, talking baby White Apes & Banths
by grampageezer
Pixar's main market are children's movies. So expect John Carter of Mars to be exactly that - a movie made for kids.
They will probably do to Carter what Disney did to Tarzan and make it a touching little story with cute talking animals and slapstick humor scattered throughout. I'm sure Pixar will also over-exaggerate the characters features and bodies like they did in The Incredibles.
Don't get me wrong, I love Pixar's CG cartoons, but personally, I wish some studio would have the guts to do a serious live-action flick with CG Martian backgrounds in the vein of 300 or Sky Captain.
But you can bet after Pixar, John Carter will forever be labled as a "children's character' and no one will touch it.
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Dam you Harry. How much did you sell out for? Now what are you gonna do, watch porn all day?
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If AICN was sold to a corporation, expect more ads than it even has now. Especially the type of ads that load first so you have to watch them for a half minute before the actually page loads.
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That reeeeeks. If you're happy to sell at least inform the public that uses the site of such a hige development. If you have actually sold it but want to keep it everyone in the dark about such a move...
well.. that's not exactly cool now is it ?
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Harry's sold the site and vanished into thick air. If it is really sold, I bet Harry will stay on to run it. His reason for selling it will be that he made a ton of money and now he can get back to what he really likes to do--blogging and talking about movies. Some suit will be worrying about operations. This will be good for a few months until the suits decides to change the site to suit themselves. Harry will argue but it will be out of his control. Then he will realize he has lost the one thing he really loved. Then he will truly be gone. So sad.
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Just read this on Capones myspace. My God. Does this mean it's gonna be now AIPN.com aint it propaganda news dot com. I'm sure to buy an ad on this site wont cost too many thousands of dollars. Or maybe the add will be a new story of the day. A new "Harry's Review" I can just see the review for Beverly hills cop 4: HARRYS SAY'S AWESOME, GO SEE THIS MOVIE!
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to the Harry-Knowles-Has-No-Business-Trying-to-Make-Movies version of John Carter? Did Harry's complete lack of understanding and comprehension of the English language convince the other producers that they were in business with a simpleton? Just kidding. But what did happen?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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cheering us all up on this sad day for the site, btw, is anyone else having troubles loading IMDb? i haven't been able to get it for 2 days now
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Had to get that out one last time, if this is indeed the beginning of the end. The way the sites been going for the last year or so, is it any surprise that this would eventually happen?
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IMDb is down.
Well, I've lost lots of great sites this way. I remember when Upcoming Movies was a cool site to read. Long gone. AICN didn't die today, but it's been diagnosed with terminal selloutitis. Fatal in 100% of cases. So sad. -
The payday is enormous... Who would have thought Rupert Murdoch would put so much money into the deal to take over this site? Me, Harry and Mori are millionaires now!Seriously, guys... if Harry has sold this site, it's news to me. Sorry if I'm ruining your fun, but as far as I know the site is still 100% independently owned and operated.
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You might want to comment on this before speculation gets waay out of control. Spill some real "NEWS" on your news site, while it is still your site.
What does this mean for honest (and not so honest) film reviews. Will we ever see "Chocolate Covered Pussy Juice" in a review again? Have the balls been completely lopped off?
I checked out Quints myspcae, and Harry's - did not see any mention of this.
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There was a collective bunching of the panties going on here.
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The rumors of the site being sold to Paramount, UA or one of the other studios are true, but the "studio" involved is actually a shell for Homeland Security. Cheney got wind of the level of Dubya hatred that always erupted whenever a political film was TB'd, and decided to keep a gimlet eye on all of the "traitors". It's all part of the Neo-con plan. You don't actually BELIEVE they'll accept the results of a general election, do you? Prepare for a rash of "terrorist" attacks, a martial law clampdown and "temporarily resheduling" of the election about one week before it was supposed to actually take place. Freedom Of Speech, my ass.
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AICN is sold. But they don't want you all to know. That was part of 'the deal'. They want you to think the site is still independent. And then they can add 'reviews' of how much films like Terminator films are awesome when really they suck balls. Can we have some truth please Quint. This is more embarrassing (For yourselves) than 'They were just weather balloons'
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It'll be interesting to see what 'news' is posted here in the upcoming weeks. The sale has been confirmed by many people affiliated with the site.
SCOREKEEPER let this information out three days ago. Seriously WTF. -
Since the GONE fiasco began, this site's entertainment value just shot through the roof!
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A lot of the AICN faithful, including myself, would like to believe that statement, but it's awfully hard to so nowadays.
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I heard that UA was looking for a new Director of Publicity.
There WERE other ways of getting the job, you know..... -
Quint who we have got know in some degree over the years or some dude called 'Michael bay sucks awesome'...hmmm tough one that.
ok so they cut a deal to publish some pages from some dudes book. Yes it's another form of advertising. Big deal. You have the choice to read it or not. I'd much rather that than being forced to look at banner ads and videos.
Stop shit stirring because you have nothing better to do.
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"Gone" "14 days" Could the real reason behind that deal actually be a message to the AICN community?
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The problem I have with the GONE fiasco is that Merrick, and others, refuse to answer any of the questions put forth by us, the readers. You will see staff in otehr talkbacks answer to ther things, but they have all been blaringly silent when it comes to GONE. That, right there, pisses me off.
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Jun 07, 2008 9:49:42 AM CDT
My god, the pieces are all falling into place.........
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
Who do THINK paid for Harry's surgery? He has to be presentable when he's wheeled out to face the first stockholder's meeting.
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It is time to either pull GONE, post all 14 chapters at once, or, at the very least, answer thee questions about it and be open and honest about it. If not, for 12 more days the talkbacks on all of your articles will be filled with this. And I don't want that.
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As far as I can tell, there was no deal... I saw the publicist emails come in, offering this as a kind of outside the box bit of publicity, Harry seemed to like the book and now we have the chapters. If someone got a cut from it they sure as shit aren't sharing with me.
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I have got the confirmation by three non AICN informants that it is true. AICN is no longer independent. Not that I care too much but this saddens me. At least be honest with the sale and profits. The figures I am getting is 5 million for the site. In a way I cant blame you for selling out. For 5 mill I'd sell my soul..or atleast a part of my body....
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If it is sold or not - no news is completely without bias anymore, therefore if you think that by "selling" the AICN property, the opinions will be more colored that they already are, you are very naive. Once again who gives a shit. It is Harry's to sell (if that is even happening, which I doubt it is), so if you don't like it, start you own site. Tossers.
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I don't think it's anything more than what I posted above, but I have nothing to do with the publishing of those particular articles and haven't talked to either Harry or Merrick about them. I just saw the offer to post chapters come in from the book's publicist. I haven't seen the talkbacks on those stories yet, but I'm sure if the reaction is as negative as it seems to be, then Harry or Merrick will address it.Now how about that John Carter of Mars? This is too cool of a prospect to have almost no discussion about it in the talkbacks for the story.
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It's a book. Some dude wants to sell more. AICN took payment to promote it.
What questions have you got?
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Seriously, go fuck yourselves. Better yet, start your own movie site. In a few years when you decide that you're tired of having every sentence analyzed for grammatical errors. When you're tired of having to read constantly negative posts from movie consumers who despite have watched every behind-the-scenes DVD extra featurette,have no idea what really goes into the filmmaking process. When you've responded to the umpteenth post from a so-called movie lover that's never taken the time to see anything made before George Lucas and Ridley Scott came along and thinks that Rio Bravo is a brand of salsa. When you've been offered a handsome sum of money that can help you find your way throught this mess of an economy.
Then you can be a sell-out too and have to defend your actions against bitter, never had the balls or brains to be anything other than a spectator assholes like all of you complaining. One more thing: Qjuit thinking of yourselves and this site as being so damned important. Despite the constnt talk of suits and plants, you are a maybe a focus group for marketing purposes. Other than that you are ticket and DVD buyers only. That's where your relationship to the industry ends. -
I think peeps just want to see the fucking thing on the screen already :)
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It's no different than what goes on in Coaxial on a regular basis. It's not like this is the first time something like this has happened. Like Talkbacker with no name pointed out, it's advertising, and it's paying the bills. I'm used to it, and if you've been around long enough, you should be as well. If you don't like what they're pushing... ...IF ANY OF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE PUSHING... ...don't fucking click on it or post in the talkback. Y'all's bitching got that shit to the top of the "Top Talkbacks" list, and because of it, you guys gave it way more attention that it deserved.
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Yeah... Maybe try and sell me that along with the new Blueray edition of Rush Hour 3. What happened?
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Thanks for addressing it. Seriously. And if there way no pay-for-pay, then why doesn't Harry or Merrick come out and say that? That would kill 50 of the complaints.
As for John Carter of Mars, to be honest, I haven't read the series. I've heard the preimse and it sounds very cool. One of these days I'll get around to reading it. -
but have you read the talkbacks for GONE? That is the funniest read all day. Seriously. Especially the "fanfic" stuff.
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This thing is old and misses a lot of keystrokes. Sorry for all the typos.
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The idea of one of the greatest studios with the most flawless track record in the entire film industry taking on one of the most original, amazing and geek-sourced pieces of literature evar; well at the very least it should be cool and kickass, and it has the potential to be flatout awe-inspiring, mind-blowing and totally fucking awesome.
In other words, in talkback speak:
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Jun 07, 2008 10:10:55 AM CDT
Transcript of Harry Knowles pitching John Carter to execs:
by laserhead
"First, ever since I was a little kid, and my dad carted around... books... one thing--I always wanted--that I knew I would...CUM all--over myself, if there was, ever. Well, Edgar Rice Burroughs. This man had--a vision. Of. There was a soldier in the Civil War. And ... FUCKING MARS. I'd stare, the book cover. Of the PRINCESS...--Giant monsters. Four arms. Like-- I was... licking MY OWN BALLS. And IT'S A TRILOGY... I'm married. Someone has sex with me. So-- what do you think?" Execs respond with slack jaws and a look of puzzled disgust.
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We're all aware that you would sell any part of your body for any chance at the slightest bit of attention.
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I just don't buy the notion that Noah Wyle was an alien. Has the quality really dropped that much on E.R. that this is the best idea they could come up with for a spinoff???
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I swear to the nonexistent gods, Harry writes like a transcript of Shatner, drunk on absinthe, as produced by a second grade special ed student.
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I enjoyed Beowulf, but it would have been even better if they had just put the real actors in the CG environment, like they do on every other big movie. Please, Pixar folks, do a live-action John Carter of Mars. If Disney itself can do POTC, Pixar can do a live-action Carter.
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I'm glad to see this project moving forward again, but ever since I've heard of a film adaptation of the books I've wondered how the filmmakers would address the extremely prominent issues of race that permeate the series. It would be easiest just to focus on the love story for the film, but these themes are still quite obvious in the first three books. John Carter is a captain in the Civil War and embodies somewhat of a romanticized view of Southern ideals. The whole concept of the Green, Red, Yellow, Black, and White (am I missing any?) men of Mars and the conflicts between them seem to be heavily based on race (or at the least religious beliefs). The fact that John Carter is the caucasian savior of Mars could lead to a clusterfuck of Last Samurai proportions. At the same time, Carter's unification of the races and the moments when he changes his appearance to avoid standing out are too good to pass up. It's a tough thing to tackle, even if it is just going on the the background, but I hope Pixar has the guts to address the issue.
As to the style of the film, it will be interesting to see how the fight scenes and the visuals play out. I always imagined Carter's fights as some kind of Wuxia style battles, but I think that could end up looking pretty goofy on screen. And if anyone could come up with a unique visual interpretation of Mars, it would be Pixar, but I can't help but think that a Frazetta-infuenced style (much like Alan Lee's visual influence on the LOTR films), would be completely and absolutely badass. So many of these CGI world films fail because they lack consistency in their visuals, and the Frazetta style would be both a solid basis and a unique visual interpretation. -
Glad to see it's still on a to do list. Also I don't believe anyone is this TB. I've heard such bull shit over the years from people who post here: Blind hate for movies for no reason, TBers faking movie reviews when they haven't seen the movie. And loads other crap and lies. So when a hand full of ass holes claim the sites has been sold and have "insiders" I automatically roll my eyes. I'll wait till something is actually confirmed before I judge. Oh yeah go Pixar John Carter of Mars could be one movie that fans will dislike but we shall see.
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THere's been a bunch of recent attempts that didn't go anywhere. There's even some concept art online that Ninth Ray studio's did (a bunch of people that worked on the star wars prequel concept art mostly). I'd have to look for the links but it was certainly interesting. one was worked on between December 2004 – March 2006 for paramount with Director Jon Favreau (Iron Man) . Here's at least one piece of concept art: http://homepage.mac.com/damaggio/.Pi...0of%20Mars.jpg
and a storyboard: http://web.mac.com/dkrentz1/iWeb/davidkrentz/StoryBoards_files/34_pg4.jpg
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Believe it or not, I've never actually set down to read John Carter of Mars. I know, I know--I should just turn in my geek card right now.Still, being a tarzan fan, I can tell you that Edgar Rice Burroughs, being a product of his time, presented a lot of prejudicial, racist themes in Tarzan as well, to say nothing of the antiquated notions concerning aristocracy and familial traits. Still, they were able to white wash much of Tarzan in Greystoke: The Legendof Tarzan and the untold numbers of other adamptations. From what you have described about John Carter of Mars doesn't sound all that different from the myriad of "white aristocrat tames the black savages and the dark jungle" themes that were running through Burroughs' Tarzan novels. My guess is that one would just characterize the race wars in Carter as negative and Carter's desire to unite everyone as a positive thing. As for Carter being white, so long as its played down, ala Tarzan, I doubt most people, beyond the all-too sensitive "we are special people" groups, will actually even notice. They'll be too caught up in the "racism is bad" motiff, to say nothing of the awesome visuals and interesting setting.
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Bravo, man!
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But if they do it they're normal kiddie cartoon way not so sure. I bet it would still be worthwhile, but this is the right property for them to grow up on, go for a more realistic graphic novel style of animation...I can just imagine them doing Mars in a style like what Heavy Metal could have been. With all the Pixar atenttion to detail and character, that would be amazing.
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In League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the one they completely mucked up on screen. Artist O'Neill's martian monsters are perfect, and the arabic tents and waterpipes too. Frazetta would be a very necessary influence too of course.
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Your mission if you decide to accept it is to save AICN website.
To do so you may be required to oil down your beautiful breasts and give a five minute massage of them on this website..This will gaurantee a massive geek overload of hits and save this websites credibility for future studio use.
Of course as always if any of your cleavage is caught or killed the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions -
Can we get a decent search engine finally?
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I loved the Burroughs stories, but, sadly, this'l never work unless the guys at Pixar re-intrduce the books to the world...most folks over the age of thirty have never heard of John Carter (or think it's another Terminator movie done by someone who doesn't use spell-check).
These guys would have to ramp up the PR even higher than what Cameron has done with his forthcoming (and like, G&R's Chinese Democracy, in the seemingly endless limbo of perpetual pre-release) Avatar.
Don't get me wrong...I WANT Pixar to succeed at this...but I ain't holding my breath.
Oh, and about the 'Sale' of AICN, maybe, just maybe UA snatched it up to make 'IASN'.. It Ain't Scientology News.com, with all the updates about Valkyrie and Battlefield Earth 2: The Search For More Cultists. -
Amen.
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Just one good scene when we first see Dejah Thoris naked and she can be covered with a very, VERY tiny bikini for the rest of the movie. I admit it would be EXTREMELY distracting to have her half-naked otherwise!
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As I was saying, live action please. These days, it can be done. And special attention must be paid to the characterization of Tars Tarkas, the character with the most interesting arc.
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You is all my bitches now... Actually I bought it for 15 million, just so I could fuck with Herc. It is a lot of money, but damn am I going to make that monkey boy dance for me...
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Creepy!
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I'm 33 years old now. I'm no longer a "geek".
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...John Carter MUST be played by Billy Crudup. You all know you want this.
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And it's just as well since we'd have to deal with dudity as well.
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DO genuine geeks make the best movies? I don't know. Lately, and for the time being, I'm seeing them as making fun but ultimately unimportant movies. I was revelling in The Wild Bunch again last night and it cemented the fact that the era of the serious director is long, long gone. It's no longer an art form about pushing ahead, it's turning into (at least for the 35 and under crowd) an art form about outwardly cataloging your childhood VHS library. I defend a lot of these throwback movies because they're good watching, and I like that these guys have a real passion for genre and history that's definitely better than someone with superior contempt for the material, but where have all the Peckinpahs gone? Did they even really exist?
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Zemeckis' BEOWULF will be nothing in comparison. Bring it!!!!
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Sleight of hand...
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is NOBODY talking about John Carter from Mars getting made by Pixar? That is the coolest shit I have heard in a LONG while! Seriously, in a few years, there will be a John Carter from Mars movie!!! That is so exciting. Maybe I will have a kid then and I can take him to see it and it will blow his little mind wide. that would rock to see something like that as a kid?
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Now maybe this means Pixar will finally make this Mario Brothers movie I keep making up in my head. Come on anyone else think a Pixar Mario brothers movie would be sweet?
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nevermind. There actually are a few people that care about cool.
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Consider other great directors like Sergio Leone and Howard Hawks just to name a few.Still, you asked a great question. IMHO the other question to ask is: Where are all the great producers like David O. Selznick?
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Come on tell me something I didn't know.
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Jun 07, 2008 5:43:47 PM CDT
Wormie is 100% correct- Pixar is going to Screw this property BI
by 900lbgorilla
John Careter of Mars is never going to come close to it’s potential as a CG kiddie flick. Regardless if it’s got Pixar’s track record- I wouldn’t want many movies made by a kiddie CG studio- would anyone have preferred Aliens be a Pixar flick? What a damn waste..
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I don’t think its hard to tackle eat all….If they make the film good and follow the books people will love it….
We will always have some who will whine about Racism when a white guy is a hero outside a white environment- but those of us with an IQ over 73 will just ignore these asswipes and enjoy the flick.
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Dejah is a Hardbody in the novels….and Billy Crudup would outright suck as JC…I think I normally agree with you more (about movies)…. but oh well.
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"And the sight which met my eyes was that of a slender, girlish figure, similar in every detail to the earthly women of my past life. She did not see me at first, but just as she was disappearing through the portal of the building which was to be her prison she turned, and her eyes met mine. Her face was oval and beautiful in the extreme, her every feature was finely chiseled and exquisite, her eyes large and lustrous and her head surmounted by a mass of coal black, waving hair, caught loosely into a strange yet becoming coiffure. Her skin was of a light reddish copper color, against which the crimson glow of her cheeks and the ruby of her beautifully molded lips shone with a strangely enhancing effect.
She was as destitute of clothes as the green Martians who accompanied her; indeed, save for her highly wrought ornaments she was entirely naked, nor could any apparel have enhanced the beauty of her perfect and symmetrical figure."
Granted, that description leaves it open to a bit interpretation, but virtually every artist who's tried to illustrate Barsoom has portrayed the Martian women as very curvy. This holds true for Frank Frazetta, Michael Whelan, Frank Cho, Joe Jusko and all the comic books and model kits.
Any image search online using "dejah thoris" will yield results which bear this out in most cases.
And you're wrong about Crudup -- he'd be great (right age, acting chops and the physique) and he's the spitting image of the Whelan book cover version. -
until that dumb fuckin book is takin off the site, every talkback will be filled with this shit. hahaha, the people have spoken, and its dumb as shit
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Can we let him publish chapters of his novel?
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BTW, I am the only one but doesn't James Cameron's AVATAR borrow a little conceptually from JOHN CARTER - maybe just a bit?
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I dare you to tell me I'm wrong. If they're finally doing animation for adults they shouldn't half ass it. At the very least, they can Beowulf it and digitally insert the acting. It IS Pixar.
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Jun 07, 2008 10:01:36 PM CDT
Nice Doc- I like the direct text quote- though I still disagree
by 900lbgorilla
I haven’t read that passage in years- but remember it like it was yesterday when I re-read that post.
I still strongly disagree because Dejah is clearly described as having a “slender, girlish figure” and “her every feature was finely chiseled and exquisite”. This is not a Marilyn or heavily curved woman by any means - I think a young Sophie Marceau facially/carriage wise would be close….though maybe too tall. It’s not that I have anything against curvy women – heck Dejah could have a nice …uh chest – but she is clearly slim and regal appearing…and not a full figured sex bomb type. (Though it sounds like she has full lips).
Also Wheelan and Frezetta don’t draw her at all alike. Frazetta draws her like just about every other Frazetta girl- very very curvy- and not AT ALL like Burroughs describes her. Whelan draws her accurately- she is slender though with a nice chest.
On a sidenote I think most Barsoom art is rather poor- and certainly very inaccurate. Wheelan is easily the most true to the description – indeed really the only one who is even worth mentioning as such (and no wonder, he was a HUGE fan of the novels and was sketching this before college). Frazetta may not be “poor” as art (he is after all Frazetta), but he is completely inaccurate as I mentioned and frankly not nearly as inspiring as Burroughs own decriptions (again keep Frazetta in Conan where he shines)…and nearly everyone else is just bad.
On Crudup, maybe if he worked out…a lot, and they cast smaller men to play the Martians he would be OK- I’ll retract thw “outright suck” comment- that was admittedly overstated- and since I also admittedly can’t pick anyone that is inspiring to star as John Carter other than hoping for an awesomely cast unknown …or Michael Bay…I’ll leave that one alone.
Kudos again on pulling the quote right out of the book- especially when it was not a smoking gun for you- I admire the effort and commitment to accuracy in debate…nice touch. It’s also nice to not talk politics with you for once…
So cheers Doc.
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...Deja must be played by Salma Hayek.
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Nice body when she was young, but her head looks like a rock...
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Salma Hayek has only gotten HOTTER since she became a mother. Have you SEEN the size of her mammaries??? :O
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Yeah she has nice tits….she’s a pretty lady….I certainly wouldn’t kick her outta bed…but the “most beautiful woman on two worlds”
Not by a LONG-SHOT. Heck, I saw better looking women at the mall yesterday.
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So freak'n cool!
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Dunno if that was 24 hrs though.
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FUCKING LONG NAME WITH NOMORE IN IT TOOK MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BANG!
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I've been offered $20 million for this site 3 times now, and $32 million once. All 4 times I've turned it down. I am not a rich man. I live in a rented house.... my recent operation was 100% paid for by my wife's work's insurance company. I only had to pay a couple of $20 deductibles.
That said - I can say - absolutely that I will never ever sell AICN. I created it. And I can't begin to tell you how amazing it is to create something that I can see so many people every day of their lives... enjoy, abuse and be free to write what they wish.
I'm sure having millions in cash would be a great thing, but frankly - I love waking up each day knowing that I'm my own person - and that my co-editors and writers on the site can write with zero fear of being fired. AICN entertains purchase offers - so we can laugh at them. Fact is - I have the life I've always wanted... And its a life worth struggling a bit with. -
I wonder who Pixar is going to have voice Mario for their upcoming Mario Brothers movie.
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Could we get some quality control if your gonna do something like this. It's subpar man.
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Jun 08, 2008 2:51:25 AM CDT
Dammit I was so close to finishing chapter 3
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Synopsis: A nuke sounds and Quinn has to blow off Astrids' head because there is only room for one in a leadlined refrigerator.
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Dude pours out his heart for us on more than one occasion, then stacks up mad geek cred and total respect by stating he WON'T sell out, and you have the audacity to call him one of the dumbest people on the planet. Dude, all i can say to you is Stupid can be fixed...it's called an education; But asshole? Well you're stuck like that for Life. Freaking Punkass.
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the nonexistent edit button is the least of this site's problems, but it doesn't seem like you want to fix any of them
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To paraphrase Beadie Russell, there's different kinds of right.
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When you put money ahead of something you believe in, it's a lack of integrity. People generally feel one of the main problems of Hollywood is the lack of integrity and creativity that is why there are less quality movies. Making movies PG to appeal to teenage consumerism. Spending millions of dollars on special effects and stars salaries and chucking together a clunky script. Directors and writers agreeing to do another movie in a seriers that adds nothing of value but will bring in money. All these add up to putting money ahead of making something special. Money will always be important, but if people always put money ahead of their own values then what's left of society is screwed. I for one appreciate that Harry has turned down offers, because he know that it will destroy his site.
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My pleasure. Although I must say, my definition of a hardbody is not a woman with a nice, sizable chest (unless it's a San Fernando Valley porn skank with fakies). Slender is fine, as long as there are some hips and boobs in the equation. Someone with a bod like Diora Baird (the PERFECT Barbarella) would be awesome. I like Aria Giovanni, but she looks too soft, like she couldn't handle anything heavier than a pencil, much less a rapier (and probably can't act worth shit). Salma hayek, anno 1996's From Dusk til Dawn, is what Thoris should look like.
As for Frazetta, I agree -- although I enjoy his Tharks, Martian outfits and Barsoomian women, I really don't like his John Carter. Conan IS where he shines the most. -
Talkbackers: "Harry you fat sellout! Where's your integrity?"
Harry: "I didn't sell AICN despite oodles of cash thrown my way."
Talkbackers: "Harry you fat moron! Where's your fucking common sense?" -
It's not just selling a site - then going to create a new one. When you're dealing with that sort of money - you must sign an exclusive 10-15 year contract. Write on schedule & deadline about what "they" want. And the exclusivity would mean - no personal blog. Essentially... I'd have to work for "the man" and personally... fuck that.
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Jun 08, 2008 4:18:24 AM CDT
Harry will sell his site eventually and for a good reason...
by emeraldboy
if he and his wife decide to have children. Where is the income going to come from. If two people share a common interest and common passion fine. But somebody will have to bring home the bacon. I dont know how harrys wife fells about the fact that her husband turned down substantial amounts of money to buy his wesbite. Will he sacrifice his marriage for this site who knows?
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Jun 08, 2008 4:51:44 AM CDT
well said Xiphos, I woulda taken it in a second
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
But then again I have jewish heritage.
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Jun 08, 2008 4:57:25 AM CDT
Hey Harry, what happened to your dvd column
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
sorry to keep buggin ya, I just need to know.
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Harry you owe ME a dvd cloumn a week. Or are you not a man of your word? Yeah, cop that ya less-fat bastard.
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then I wouldn't feel so stupid.
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The artist who lives in paupery and penury, he is happy to bang paintins, or novels, or plays without seeing a cent or making one. The commercial artists are viewed by pauper artists as vulgar and grotesque types who have sacrificed thier souls for the corporate life.
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I would have sold ages ago.
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Turning these books into a movie would require an enormous amount of control of the environment it takes place in. I think animation can do that and do it seamlessly.
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that's the shit. All these fuckers. I agree with Krack. It's easy for people to talk about integrity with hypothetical dollars but when push comes to shove everyone wants to look after their health and their family. Ballsy. Never loose the anger. anger at the man.
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...without still having to write for it or be associated with it, I'd say, take the money and run. But if you have to be tied to a 15-year contract where you're a puppet to the company you sell to, then your reputation and soul is pretty much on line. If it were possible to negotiate for a half the price, say $10 million, for complete freedom from the site, I'd do it. If not, then you made the right choice.
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That's a LOT of money. What balls you have, Harry. Personally I'd sell one of mine for a paltry million, no questions asked
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Gone still stank.
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It's called integrity and yes, Knowles has got it.
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I just looked up John Carter of Mars on Wikipedia and I don't get why this is so hard to make an adaptation of. I mean its a story right? It has a beginning, middle, and end, right? Just like every other piece of english writing? The only thing I have ever known of this was through this site, and all I have read is how difficult this thing is to make. The first appearance of Carter was apparently in a comic/book/whatever called Princess of Mars. How about just making a movie about that? If there are origin stories about him, put that at the beginning and segue that into the Princess of Mars movie. What is the big freakin deal?
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One...two... Yeah i pretty much don't care if this site never changes. I hate all new web sites now. WAY too much flash player and blah blah. Also now that I've found a way to dig through the archives searching for old articles got a little better.
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If Harry is offered millions, I would do it. You only live once. Isn't he living in a trailer in South Austin? He has a wife, and will have a kid someday i'm sure. He's worked hard, done all the right things, and I say go for it. Yes I think he has a responsibility to keep integrity on the site, but family trumps all that.
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If Harry is offered millions, I would do it. You only live once. Isn't he living in a trailer in South Austin? He has a wife, and will have a kid someday i'm sure. He's worked hard, done all the right things, and I say go for it. Yes I think he has a responsibility to keep integrity on the site, but family trumps all that.
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I truely admire ya man. I would have given in.
Seriously thank god the site hasn't been sold! ... my initial thoughts were of sadness when I read the rumours of the site being sold. I still remember how good Coming Attractions use to be before Patrick sold it..and i'm not having a crack at Patrick, I'm just saying... -
but my contribution to the association that I am member of is. I was instrumental in helping them set up, the adult support group which I chair.
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I personal would take the money, but gotta have integrity too...I agree with you Harry.
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You say some ridiculous shit sometimes but your first post in this talkback was pure poetry. Thank you for creating this site, and thank you for having the integrity to not sell it out.
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You could have taken the scratch..
But you do love what you do and that makes up for a lotta shit..
I hope this is a wake up call to all the people that give you shit
for telling it like you see it..
Bravo Sir... -
Amen.
Cheers, Harry.
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I hope Pixar makes this happen. Pixar could do it but it’s got to be big, bold, bloody and half naked – sort of “Heavy Metal” with a cohesive story. Pixar has the storytelling chops and a certain Princess of Mars deserves to be treated with respect. I, for one, can’t wait.
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merge them together, paint her red and you have Deja Thoris... well, in my mind anyway. MAKE IT SO, PIXAR!
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... for good measure.
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As Harry clarified, if he sold, he'd have to sign a contract with soulless big media megalomaniacs who would demand he write on their favored subjects. For example, if whichever entity that won the bid had a vested interest in a Brett Rattner film, Harry would have to suck up not just his personal integrity, but everything that has gone into his understanding and love of film, and lie-which often takes a hell of a lot more talent than being honest, sadly-to everyone's face and say he's changed his mind about the Director. It's not just that Harry wouldn't do it, he, like any one of us that believes in anything, couldn't do it. It'd simply be too damn hard.
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just may take 20 more years, but he will certainly sell. Wait til he reaches "retirement age"......
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Curly: You know what the secret of life is?
Mitch: No, what?
Curly: This.
Mitch: Your finger?
Curly: One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and everything else don't mean shit.
Mitch: That's great, but what's the one thing?
Curly: That's what you've got to figure out. [Harry, it looks like your figured it out. Good for you!] -
Just curious!
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You don’t have to come here, unless you live in the town where the Hills Have Eyes took place, it’s a pretty safe bet that you can go to your own local mall to find a better looking woman than Selma!
…newsflash, her being in some movies doesn’t make her better looking than women who have nicer features than she does…and there are plenty o those….oh-and if you do live in The Hills town…I recommend that you move STAT!
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An “Exact” translation of almost any book would make a less than stellar movie because of the difference in medium… (For instance some key information in the Mars series...and many other books are told to us as almost asides or a steh main characters thoughts and thus outside the main narrative…which translateds poorly to film as it makes either scenes outside the narrative necessary or the use of another mechanism to relay the information)
…but to the main tpoint-the 1st 3 books were not “all over the place” and a competenmtly shot faithful adaptation would do FAR better among all but small children than a Pixar kiddification of a relatively adult book….Or perhaps you would like Pixar to do any future Conan films and believe they would have been better suited to invent the Alien franchise? If not your point is moot…some stories are perfect for Pixar- some are not…and John Carter is certainly NOT…Sorry Jack.
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...isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder anyway? That's like the ridiculous argument that Cate Blanchett isn't the most beautiful woman in the world (Whu? There's only one?!!) and therefore should not have been cast as Galadriel. Selma already has the skin tone and the curves..plus she ain't exactly hard on the peepers iffen you take my meaning. I find her quite beautiful.Right you are then ebonic!
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My heartfelt congratulations on your display of integrity...such a rare thing these days.
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Diora Baird? She doesn’t have a “slender girlish” figure….She is half boobs man! I mean Damn! Well OK you’re a boob guy- I don’t think that’s your Dejah, but I’ll go with you on the Barbarella comment…
And I have given Selma tons o crap over the last 4 posts in relation to Dejah –especially because facially she is not really exceptional at all and her carriage is all off for Dejah –she’s more feisty/bitchy than regal…but that said, I should clarify a bit-because her body in Dusk To Dawn was INSANE- and that was one of the most sensual scenes I have ever watched- heck its still the only real reason I keep the channel on when Dusk kicks in on a pay channel- I even got a friend who hated the movie and would never watch it through to stick around due to Selma- he had never watched that scene (he had seen much of before and after in parts & HATED the lame vampires) but I made him wait it out without telling him why…he went from sitting there annoyed in a chair to somehow sitting like a dog in front of the TV by halway through the scene and didn’t move for the rest of the movie…fricken pricelessly funny to see in person. Especially because for part if it he looked like s a slack jawed dunce…he probably drooled on himself at some point.
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You sometimes annoy the hell out of me with your politics, but turning down a lottery ticket in order to live the way you want to is a tough decision…always gotta respect someone who puts his money where his mouth is (especially to that extent) to be their own man….I hope it works out for you in the long run.
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Obviously with the majority siding on the side of Harry and his integrity. Sometimes money doesn't cover the cost of everything, namely self-respect and principles. Glad to see in this Age of Disloyalty that some people aren't willing to sacrifice their beliefs and ideals to Sell Out. That's why i've come to AICN since the beginning and will as long as the site it up. Mad props Harry. Respect knuckles ;)
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For the John Carter of Mars series? Like a first book, or a greatest hits sort of thing? For those of us not in the know. Also any news about the Pixar/Nintendo collaboration for the Mario movie?
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but I've got no integrity. Kudos, Harry. I missed the gone thing- I wonder how.
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I posted over on recount TB - bring it back to life
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Fuck it- we only need 30 odd. I'm going to go and do it.
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Jun 09, 2008 8:07:36 AM CDT
Jarv, there is another branedead poster on the generation kill t
by toadkillerdog
His name is Tophat. I had to use a No. 2 on him
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On the Recount TB
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Yes, I saw him. Words fail me sometimes.
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I've never read "John Carter" but have seen some of its classic artwork. It looks pretty tripped out, so I'd love to see Pixar do a film, live action or animated.
Animation might be a better (and cheaper) choice, though, to blow people's socks off with crazy Pixar renderings. I'm sure it'll be compelling either way.
Good luck writing, Andrew! -
to start reading the John Carter series start with book 1 Princess of Mars... the entire series is a great read..... short PULP novels that can be read and enjoyed in a couple of hours....
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I own a 9000 acre Ranch in North Texas with Oil and Crops and Cattle that pays a handsome sum 4 times a year, that I inherited from my Mother. So even if ad revenue began to dry up, I'd continue the site. Because I love it.
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Thank you, Harry! Despite our occasional bursts of rampant negativity, us talkbackers really appreciate your fire.
Good luck sloppin' hogs on the ranch. -
Seriously, the news was making me upset. How the hell did this rumour come about!?!
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...for 77 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_of_Mars_%28film%29
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