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Ratner Aiming For A Kinder & Gentler BEVERLY HILLS COP??
Merrick here...
There's a lot of talk out there about comments made by Brett Ratner regarding the recently announced BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 in a post at MTV's website.
When asked what is biggest challenge would be, Ratner seemed to indicate that his new film would be geared towards a very PG audience.
“10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’ So it’s an opportunity to make it new for kids,” Ratner said. “The same way it felt for me watching ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ when I was a kid, that’s what I want to do for kids today.”
...says THIS ARTICLE at MTV.
As much as I intensely dislike his film making, it should be noted that Ratner does not implicitly say BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 will carry a "safer" rating from its predecessors - although he certainly seems to imply as much. After all, he's talking about how he felt as a "kid"...watching films that were R rated when they were released. That's a wholly different vibe than a PG or PG-13 rating would bring about.
I'm not trying to make excuses for a film maker for whom there are no excuses...just trying to be fair, and suggest there might be a bit of misinterpretation afoot here.
This said, we need to remember studios' increasing reluctance to release R rated fare (LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, TERMINATOR SALVATION). Regardless of what Ratner meant to say, and considering who is directing it, it's a safe bet BHC 4 won't feel like its progenitors.
“10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’ So it’s an opportunity to make it new for kids,” Ratner said. “The same way it felt for me watching ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ when I was a kid, that’s what I want to do for kids today.”
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BULLSHIT!
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So having Axel dress up as a big fuzzy amusement park mascot in Beverly Hills Cop 3 wasn't kid friendly enough? They want to go even shittier, huh?
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LAUGHING. AT US.
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Everyone knew that this will not be rated R.
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What a film you'd have! I know I'd watch it - in ten years on tv!
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Jun 04, 2008 8:04:33 AM CDT
yet another movie series to be dug from the grave only to be bur
by wldmk
Is Hollywood seriously incapable of coming up with new ideas that they have to rehash everything?
This reeks of utter desperation more than anything else, and that's before taking into consideration that Ratner's a lousy hack. "...BHC 4 won't feel like its progenitors" - thats sure is an understatement IMO, especially given that as much as I liked 1 & 2, the third was just weak... -
Really. Did 2 feel like the original with slick-as-snails Tony Scott directing? Hell no. It was mediocre too, and the third one just sucked. What exactly is the pedigree we're seeking to protect here? Not to mention Ratner is a pretty good mimic, even if he's nothing special. Eh, this movie will be a bad joke no matter what. It's funny though cause it's going to take the adoration of seriously flawed original series to the next level: "Oh no! Ratner's destroyed the integrity of the Beverley Hill Cop franchise!!!" LOL
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Okey Dokey, Okey Dokey, Okey Dokey Okey!!!!
Hey that's not right! Thats not the Okey Dokey shuffle!!!! -
Balki and Serge finally meet face-to-face!
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The first 2 were very bloody in their gunfights.I'm sure the language will be toned down also.
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that's the dumbest thing I've read in ages
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The kid who played Short Round would be perfect! Him or Shia.
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Cos he's at his best when he's doing tame crap and not projects that actually have a pair.
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“10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’"
So what? Seriously, so what? How can he puff this up as something that needs to happen, acquainting kids with a somewhat successful series of cop movies from two decades ago?
What else are today's 10 and 12 year olds unfamiliar with? Taxi Driver? Casablanca? The Teapot Dome scandal? The Lindy? Studebakers? I could go on and on.
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I could give a monkey's if they make another BHC film but one for kids? Merrick is damn right when he points out that how the Rat felt about watching BHC as a kid was how a kid feels about watching an R. Hell, when i was a kid all the cool movies my friends and i loved where things like Predator, Aliens, Commando, Robocop, Beverly Hills Cop, Die Hard. We were young, we loved seeing those movies illicitly on video. To cater such films to a younger audience defeats the object. Growing up in England in the 80s we felt 18s (our R) were cool and less than 18 wasn't worth bothering. We grew up, tastes changed but that doesn't mean you take what you loved as a kid and redo it aimed at kids - heck, in reverse i don't want to see a remake of Jungle Book made as a vioent blood-bath!
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To think that this franchise is sacred in any way is delusional. The Beverly Hills Cop movies have gotten progressively worse with each incarnation. Only the first is a "classic" by any means. #2 was mildly amusing at best, and 3 was virtually unwatchable. Does anyone REALLY care what they do with 4?
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My sentiments exactly. (If I had refreshed the page before posting I would have seen yours and not bothered, as I pretty much paraphrased everything you stated.)
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Actually, perhaps we should.
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Jun 04, 2008 8:39:59 AM CDT
I'm going to go ahead and agree with Slone and Thunderbolt.
by rbatty024
It's a crappy franchise to begin with. No matter who was at the helm I probably wouldn't be interested. I enjoy the first one but that's about it. Ratner can fuck it up if he wants, it won't bother me. In fact, I think Ratner should take over all the tired old franchises. Maybe he can work on a follow up to Terms of Endearment/The Evening Star next.
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holly fucking wood sucks
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But I agree that this 'franchise' has pretty much died with BHC2. To echo a fellow talkbacker's sentiment, this feels like their digging the grave just to deface the rotted corpse of Axel Foley.
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Yup, bang on but it goes both ways. If I were Eddie Murphy I'd be begging them to make it an R so he can let loose and just make an adult ranging flick. He seems content to be making dire kiddy flicks - the wild eyed crack talking 80's wiseass surely must be alive in him somewhere.
As Thunderbolt nailed quite funnily though, its Beverley Hills Cop. Dude wheres my integrity? BHC and many 80's flicks were just vehicles for the star to let loose.
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is giving eddie career advice?
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Eddie hung it up years ago. To remake this with him being the focus is crazy. So I propose a change of the guard. Let's get a comic who is edgy like Eddie used to be. Katt Williams comes to mind.
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90% of the jokes, adult humor and situations went over my head. all the cop jargon, all the dirty stuff, etc. is THAT what he wants to make? either a movie that is lacking all of that? or does he want to make a version like he (and i) remember from childhood...namely the slapstick or vulgar humor moments, intense action, screaming, jokes, etc?
i want to make a beverly hills cop for kids the way i remember the movie from my childhood."
that's a scary statement.all that said, i have no love invested in this franchise, i figured it was already dead anyway. ratner's just fucking the dead horse that was killed in 2 and beaten in pt3. -
HEY ITS OAKIE DOKEY!!!..as long as THE RAT Brings back The Dokey im good.
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Beverly Hills Cop 3 was kinder and gentler than the previous two movies, and was also a piece of crap in comparison to the first two films. Didn't Foley have a gun that shot nets instead of bullets in the third movie?
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And if we're really lucky, Axle's cousin Norbit will join him in Beverly Hills as they both rely on their abilities to talk to animals to solve this latest crime.
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You just know it should happen!
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You just know it should happen!
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man i was just thinking about all the trash bin sifting and grave robbing these days for sequels, prequels and reboots. we're really at the point were, mainstream anyway, it looks like there are more sequels than original content. and it got me to think about the golden age of cinema, when a ton of original movies were made,(many of which we are remaking now in some form, surprised Bay hasn't remade casablanca yet, or rob zombie re-envisioning citizen kane)- and back when sequels were unheard of, or at the most had a totally different name and played like another chapter in a book (never had the death mark of a fat number after the title)...and if an actor was liked in a role, or two actors worked well together, it was okay to use them again for that chemistry in another, UNRELATED picture. And actors were better for it. they got to play different roles, show range. Now if we stumble upon a character or two that we like, it's just too easy to make a sequel so we can see them again, the same way, in a similar situation. and by the time pt 2 is done we realize they have worn out their welcome through repetition of what worked before. but then the box office numbers are in (because so many people turned out in hopes pt 2 would be the magic fluke that is as good as or better than pt 1) that the studios give 3 the greenlight to make more money.
by that time though, the public groans and the movie is a joke. in short BHC4 is the epitome of what is wrong with hollywood sequelism. -
This movie is going to suck shit anyway, so why bother posting news on it?
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If your idea of fun is anal gang-rape (though I KNOW some of you would love to be on the receiving end...) FFS how much pain do we have to suffer? Movies like this are killing the quality of filmmaking. Why go to the effort of producing a great movie when you can hire a hack to revive a long-dead franchise and slap a kiddy rating on it to ensure BO takings?? Fuck 'em all.
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I can see Eddie Murphy signing on for a family-friendly BHC, and if true, it is just another reminder that the guy has completely lost all cool points that he once had.
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yeah man, the swearing is what bade BHC 'fun' for us 80's kids. when we saw it on grandma's HBO or something it was like we were watching something we weren't supposed to or seeing a world we weren't meant to see yet...and we though oh, so that's what a cool, funny adult does.
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Jun 04, 2008 9:10:16 AM CDT
You didn't actually think EM was going back to making funny movi
by movietool
did you? Sesame Street has more edge than Eddie Murphy nowadays.
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He wants to make it the same for kids now as it was when he watched it as a kid, and is doing that by toning it down? Huh?
If the theatrical release of BHC was the censored one they show on TV then it wouldn't have been a success, and wouldn't have spawned sequels.
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Damn You Michael BAy
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...the 80's are over! And the BHC movies are as 80's as Miami Vice.
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raise your hand....
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...made good movies at first? eddie in ..shit..everything in the eighties... now we get cheaper by the dozen 5, and norbit. funny though how together martin and murphy came closer to their eighties, convoluted comedy roots in bowfinger, which was still crap but closer to the home formula than any of their family garbage
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One of the funny things about the Beverly Hills Cop movies was it's use of the F word. Remember Foley's boss Todd who kept referring to him as "fuckin' Foley"? How could you remove that from the equation? It wasn't the funniest thing, but it added character to the movies. Now Ratner wants to dumb down this and make a kiddie friendly version? Look, I don't have as much disdain for Ratner as many of you, but this pisses me off. My kid isn't going to see BHC4 no matter what it's rated, so make it a FUCKIN' R spectacle!
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is everywhere, especially Hollywood.
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And Whitemouse, I love those "Damn You Michael Bay" comments. I second that motion.
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i typed a crap ton more stuff. about how steve martin had the jerk, eddie owned the 80's, and now they give us family shit.yet when the two paired for bowfinger (which was still crap)it was closer to the old formula of the convoluted 80's ensemble comedy than theshitty sequels they churn out now
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Eat a turd, Ratner, you were 15 when the first BHC movie came out. Don't try to pass yourself off as some rebel little 10 year old who snuck into a theater to see it. Die!
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McG - Terminator Salvation! The Rat - Beverly Hills Cop 4! Paul 'the other one' Anderson - Death Wish remake! Len Wiseman - Underworld: Rise of the Lycans! All these films will suck!!! The cinematica apocalypse is upon us!!!
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Ratner- this guy is still finding work? Wow- I hate him more than Bay. Damn you Michael Bay! Fuck you Brett Ratner!
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He is relevant, as far as making kids movies that rake in cash. If I were to ask you what Eddie Murphy's last R movie was. I'm willing to bet you'll need a second to think about it. It was Life. Which came out in 1999!!! This whole gentler and nicer Axel Foley thing has to be part Eddie Murphy's idea.
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This is Murphy's chance and he is blowing it. Everyone loved his brother Charlie on the Chappell show...you know why? He reminded us of Eddie when he didn't give a fuck. Ok, Eddie, you got busted with a tranny. Own it! Use it! Richard Pryor went onstage and talked about how he used to fuck faggots and people LOVED him! Pryor had balls, Murphy is a coward. I guess that's why Pryor will be remembered as a revolutionary comedian and Eddie will be remembered as a pretender.
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not Death Wish. Not that it makes much difference.
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then I would rather jerkoff with a cheese grater and take my shredded cock and stick it into a pile of salt.
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can i get in the hot tub?
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Anyone else remember this joke from LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION?
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its all part of the re-package!
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in the audio commentary, Len Wiseman and Bruce Willis both agree that they didn't aim for any rating at all, they just tried to make the best Die Hard ever. while it may not have been the best die hard ever, they were surprised when they didn't get the R
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Hasn't made an R movie since 2002's Red Dragon. And before that, his only other R movie was his first movie (Money Talks), a true sign of taking whatever was offered to him.
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I guess that got lost in the shuffle with all this news about Beverly Hills Cop, The Incredible Hulk, G.I. Joe, Transformers 2, He-Man, and Death Race. Hey, at last they aren't reporting on Boll's movies anymore right. Now. What was the point of not reporting on Uwe Boll's movies again?
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The only reason Murphy should even be considering this film is to regain his credibility and bring back his adult audience after his decades-long string of shitty family films. BHC4 was a golden opportunity to revive him as a funny, foul-mouthed ADULT star. If they water it down for PG-13, they effectivey kil what chance he had to regain that credibility, as he would have just changed his most popular series to match his current shitty persona. Sorry Murphy. Looks like your career is over.
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Jun 04, 2008 9:39:48 AM CDT
I am pretty sure that the only person that wants this to happen
by series7
is Judge Reinhold. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got like 20 scripts already written from hard R to G. Though for some reason in all of his scripts he has the most lines???? Seriously who could give a shit what Eddie Murphy does, or Cuba Gooding while were here. Eddie is and always has been too cocky and full of himself. I bet if you ask him about Pluto Nash he'll tell you its a good movie and fuck you if you disagree. I personally would rather just see Eddie go back to doing stand up. The man is not meant for kids, he does fucked up shit in real life too. But you ever noticed that almost all the actors involved in making movies/TV for kids are all fucked up in real life. While all the big action/bad ass stars are doing good Arnold is almost president, Clint Eastwood probably could be president, Sly turned out to be a real director, Bruce Willis is still alive, Steven Segal is still alive as well, and Jean Claude looks like he finally ended up in a good movie (but he probably doesn't even know he's in it).
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Best reference of the day! It's gonna be tough to beat that.
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He remembers seeing Beverly Hills Cop as a 12 year old so why does the new one have to be a PG for today's 12 year olds?
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Or how about Warren Zide (Moriarty's buddy) making a new Zombie movie?
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He has this movie coming out called JCVD that so far looks pretty cool.
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I was a kid then, and loved everything Eddie Murphy did, then I saw Beverly Hills Cop, it was awful. Sure, Murphy adlibbed a few funny lines, and had charm and charisma to spare, but the movie was not good. There's a reason Stallone passed on the script, he made a lot of crap back then, and even he thought this was bad. I'm glad Ratner is doing this, maybe it will keep him off Iron Man 2 if Favreau gets sick or something.
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Indy IV was watered down (he didn't even shoot anyone and it felt like a theme park ride). Terminator IV sounds all gruesome with the ending scene, but will probably show nothing interesting with it's PG-13 rating. Wtf?
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They'll be remaking He-Man into a super serial LOTR style romp soo...
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ok...I'll take that as a no, then....
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Not literally... but why the fuck should a Beverly Hills Cop movie be toned down for the younger crowd? fuck em, they can watch Shrek 13 instead
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I think I like this game. Movies I would rather hear about: Burn After Reading, The Machine Girl (it's on DVD now by the way), The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus... I'm sure there are more but I'm going to pass out now. When I wake up, this shit better be amended ASAP. Seriously, I never wanted to be the typicall Talkbacker the gave this site shit, but if I see one more thread about Terminator Salvation: The Future Whatever, or That Fucking Ouigi Board Movie (Seriously! Come on, seriously?) I think it might be time for me to move on.
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bhc was one of THE movies when i was a kid. but that wasnt it the mindset of martin brest i am sure. he was just trying to make a cool movie, not a cool movie that kids will love too. i think there lies the difference, and probably the failure of this project
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Being on a boat, with a hole in it. Somebody pointed to the hole and they carried on. But the boat filled up with water and it sank. Vanpire in brooklyn stank. The last great eddie murphy film was bowfinger.
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Does a R rating really hold people back from seeing it? Something like Die Hard 4 or Beverly Hills Cop 4 being rated PG-13 is only going to cater to the over 30 crowd who want to think they are responsible parents and bring there kids to only PG-13 or less. Anyone who would be interested in seeing BHC 4 will be old enough to "sneek" into an R rated film. Also do movie theaters actually check to see if you are under 17? Because seriously fuck'em if they do. I don't think my parents ever gave a shit what the rating of a movie was.
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Fucking 10 & 12 year olds is illegal!
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I feel ashamed for Eddie Murphy, almost embarrassed.
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But this is FAIL. Oh well, was anyone chomping at the bit for a BHC movie?
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R/NC-17/18 cert balls to the wall action romps anymore. 300 and Sin City don't count, as they as highly stylized.
The likes of Die Hard/Predator/Terminator in their original grittyness have been consigned to the history books. From a business point of view considering what the 80's big franchises took the whole 'appeal to broad pg-13 audiences' is daft. Not once does this complete fucking moron ask WHY he was watching this film when he was 10, as opposed to 80's shrek or whatever the equivalent of bland sensibilities were pimping the kids in those days.
Actually scrap that - even then 'kiddie' films consisted of The Goonies, War Games and Ferris Buellers Day Off. Their middling low key flicks beat the crap out of our top efforts, and it's not even rose-tinted nostalgia glasses talking. -
and the way they strangled hollywood. BUsh passed into law the family film act. This has had the effect of blanding movies. Violence, Sex, bad language are removed to make films family friendly. and that is now the law. INdy 4 was so bad of a film it turned my friends brain to mush. I hated what they did to john Hurt. It wasnt as if Lucas, the berg and ford needed the money. Why did they agree to make this shoddy piece of shit.
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just asking as aside from the repeated FUCKS- and why the f should that earn an R anyway?- is there a reason that it got an R rating? or pehaps i am to jaded?
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gay gay ghay gey
what a stupid tool
does the opposite of what should be done
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Dude Rambo was balls to the wall hard R action movie. Doomsday kind of was as well.
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Eddie Murphy movie #396. He'll be unfunny, bored, wanting to get off the set and collect his paycheck just like all the other movies he's done for the past 5-6 years or more. I predict this will have a Donkey, a fat suit and a stupid space robot piloted by little tiny people. Go ahead and make your crappy movie Eddie, just don't expect me to watch it. Hey kids, a falling star make a wish!
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It'll keep him unavailable for a while from destroying any movies in development that I'm looking forward to.
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That'd be my only reason to watch this trainwreck.
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If you look back at alot of 80's films, they were never made for kids, they were made for an adult/older teenager, that kids could enjoy, but wouldn't get half of the humor/jokes. Look back at Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders, Back to the Future, Superman, Aliens, and comedies like Fast Times, Ghostbusters, Bev Hills Cop, Caddyshack, Stripes. All movies I loved as a 10 year old kid, and have all aged well as I still love them today. Todays movies cater to kids, and sure the kids enjoy them, but like Return of the Jedi is to my generation, we enjoyed it in 1983, but the Ewoks don't come off well on screen when your 30 years old.
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Has been playing that same character for ages now, I am starting to think that he really is just a bumbling old man. Or did you not like how they made him invincible?
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and theyre even advertising it proudly. take notes from that guy.
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All in the background, though. "What the GUNSHOT is this GUNSHOT, Axel?"
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...some moronic references to Shrek and donkeys in this?
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point taken, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule. The output of 80's and early 90's cinema that combined swearing and adult themes in often non-typical 'dark' films was very high. If you take Die Hard that had a fantastically wry, tongue in cheek sense of humour and an almost child-like glee in the violence. An adult Tom and Jerry if you will.
The sad thing about Rambo (in the UK at least) a few of the largest cinema chains refused to show it. I think I read that there was an ongoing dispute with the distributors, coupled with (get this) 'they'd prefer not to, as they were a family orientated chain' (im paraphrasing but the gist was there). This is dangerous ground. Naturally because they didn't show it it's profits were hit (badly, though even with minimum screens it hit the top 3 that week) and the headlines on big news sites (itn.com here) pretty much screamed 'Stallone just isn't big anymore, no-one cares about this kind of flick'.
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Because fucking adults don't want to go to the movie theaters anymore... because it was one thing when all you had to deal with was loud kids/crying kids who back then would get slaped by their parents. Now a days parents bring kids to theaters and don't give a shit what they do. I saw Speed Racer for the second time (best movie of the summer America) and it was just me and my girlfriend and some mom with three kids in the theater. It was like the 10pm ish showing of the movie. These kids were from 5-13. One kept getting on the phone, the other kept talking and the third one ended up sitting behind me a couple of times as he ran around the theater and kicked my chair. I turned around and looked at the mom and kid and they didn't do anything, I couldn't hit the kid I told him to stop but seriously. You can't fill the theaters with 25+ for a block buster like you used to.
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Fuck. That.
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All this remaking and restarting things from my youth is getting sickening, especially with the way things are getting watered down. Die Hard 4 was disapointing in the sense that it was not "Die Hard" it was a video game. The thought of a PG-13 Terminator sickens me. And after spending so much time on this site I know I am not the only one sick of super hero, movies, remakes, and restarts. I want some original movies god dammit. You can put things in IMAX, you can make things in 3-D, but I want something new. Don't get me wrong Iron Man was cool, in on the fence about the Hulk, because the first one was so shitty. Are we such a mindless public that we literally don't mind seeing the same movies over and over. Remakes of remakes. All the horror movie remakes are mostly crap, now we are seeing directors remake things from just 12-14 years ago that were excellent the first time (i.e. Bad Lieutenant)
James Cameron must be pissed the way hollywood is killing his original vision. Looks like it finally time to go back and watch some of the cooler, smaller films that I missed over the past few years, becuase at this rate the movie business is becomming what the music industry is, a sad retread of the same crap over and over. -
FUCK THE CHILDREN! We are all doomed anyways! I want to see Eddie Murphy as he should be. Not the family oriented stuff he does nowadays? The Pg-13 John McClane was awful...Please fuck the kids their taste in movies sucks anyways!!!
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Ratner is a souless piece of trash. He's not doing this for the kids. He's doing it for his bank account. He's making it PG or PG-13 so younger people can see it. He's also going to make the movie 90 minutes long. Remember I said that cause it's going to happen. Why make it 90 minutes? So it can be shown more times in one day and make more money. I don't want to hear this bull about kids not knowing what Beverly Hill Cop is. That's no excuse. First off, if a kid is an Eddie Murphy fan, the kid will look up other Murphy films. Also the Beverly Hills Cop movies are on cable or TV all the time. So kids will see them. And he just screwed up his own point. He wants to make the movie softer for kids, but he went to see an R rated movie as a kid. So why not make an R rated movie and if it looks cool, kids will want to see it. Rater makes me want to puke. He talks about being a fan of movies and how he loved all these movies as a kid. he also grew up loving the X-men and we know what he did with X3. He's just in it for the money. How can you love movies and then want to put out safe movies. He'll never make an original movie and he'll never make a good movie again. I wonder what franchine he'll ruin next? He ruined Rush Hour. He ruined X-men. Beverly Hills Cop is going to suck moose cock. Maybe one he'll look back and see all the shitty movies he's made and he'll make something good. Then he can die and rot in hell.
And for anyone who is going to say "why do you hate Ratner" or "why waste your time, he sucks." Cause we knew this was going to happen. When it was anounced that he was going to direct, we knew he was going to sell out even more and make fluff, safe fluff that families can go to. -
Seriously, that is as close to the good stuff as we'll be getting anytime soon unless Stallone writes and directs his Death Wish update,which I pray to God he will soon. Movies like the first BHC and 48 Hours are the reason i grew up thinking Eddie Murphy was the funniest guy alive, Ratner probably wants to turn it into Rush Hour 4. I'm not the type to rant but between this and the Terminator shit I am about ready to take a break from movies all together.
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Jun 04, 2008 10:39:17 AM CDT
"If you hurt her, I'll arrest you instead of shooting you"
by jack-torrance
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This news impacts my life not one iota. I laughed my ass off seeing the original "Beverly Hills Cop" in a theater, but I could give a shit what Ratner wants to do with it.
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The summer movies offer Zero these days, except mindless entertainment, and retreaded sequels. If you want someone to do a real sequel, just look at James Camerons work, he actually TRIED to make a better rather, rather then Spielberg/Lucas who know the name Indiana Jones/Star Wars will sell the movie itself. T2 and Aliens are two of the greatest sequels ever made, cause they tried to offer something different in terms of story, and didn't rely on 'bigger is better' although it did compliment the originals perfectly. Nobody in Hollywood takes a chance anymore, all we see is the same crap, as I am hoping that The Dark Knight will be the one worthy sequel to see. Where are the plot points like Spock dying, or Vader being Lukes father, or even Neo and Trinity both dying in the Matrix Revolutions. Whatever you think of those movies, they took a shot and didn't do a paint by numbers sequels like most sequels today.
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Jun 04, 2008 10:40:52 AM CDT
Where in the frigg did you get a truckload of cigarettes from an
by jack-torrance
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Proves that not every action star has given up. Anyone dissappointed with Die Hard 4.0 or Indy the invincible and you have yet to see Rambo, you are doing yourself a disservice. All those people that had the Best Week Ever attitude about how Stallone is too old didn't bother to see it, while showing up opening day for DH and Indy expecting something as good as their childhood will eat their words when they finally see Rambo. Seriously, if you didn't see Rambo in theaters but saw Die Hard and Transformers and Ironman and Indy and the Jason Boring movies in theaters your part of the reason hard R's aren't getting made. Rambo for the most part was an independent movie and while being a modest hit, it was not a mega hit like those other movies. So why would a big studio blow money on something that is not going to make them more money back?
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michael bay can suck a dick. movie producers and marketing groups can suck a dick.
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i saw BHC3 as a kid when it came out in theaters and i loved it. that was as tame as it should ever get.
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FUCK YOU BRETT RATNER
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What will the horrible storyline involve? Axel has a son? He's put in charge of the K-9 unit? The ghost of Paul Riser helps Axle solve his murder? Eddie has to done white-face and become Detective White? No guns, everyone will only carry walkie talkies? It turns out that Chris Tucker is a robot and Axle gets fatally wounded. So they peal Axle like a banana and put his skin over Chris Tucker's robotic skeleton?
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As do John Ashton, Ronny Cox,Bronson Pinchot And I'm sure Paul Reiser could use a decent meal.
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No visits to the titty bar with Judge Reinhold then?
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that it flops, and while Ratner is directing this it will take him away from raping another franchise in the meantime (though he's been know to make movies very fast).
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could care less about Beverly Hills Cop. They're too busy jacking cars and shooting thugs playing GTA 4.And all they know of Eddie Murphy is, "isn't he the guy that plays all those fat people?"
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After 2, 3 & 4 they could make it G for all I care. It's not like I was going to pay to see it anyway.
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I fear that I may be giving them an idea they'll use. Axel is now a calm, mature cop. He's teamed up with a young, loud, wisecracking female cop played by Raven, who reminds Axel of himself from younger days - minus all the swearing. They don't get on. They have to solve a mystery. And during the case they become friends, and he becomes a father figure to her, and at the end they capture the bad guys and put them in handcuffs. Theme song over end credits is sung by Raven. All in a nice PG-13 package.
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..and leave my fucking childhood alone!! Try making something original you fucking hack!!!
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Just confirmed, Judge Reinhold will not be in the new movie. His character will now be played by (Lil?) Bow Wow. In other news actor Judge Reinhold was found dead this morning. The actor hung himself last night leaving only a note that said "You'll get yours Bret Ratner".
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If Axel is fired from the force and he starts a day care center in his house with Rosewood and Serge. Think of all the hilarious hijinx that would ensure.
Oh wait! Eddie Murphy already did that movie.
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Is that whenever Ratner talks about his movies, he's always pumped up and smiling like a mental patient. Does he really think his last few movies were good?
I have heard a lot of people bash Quentin Tarantino about how he's unoriginal and steals from other movies. Ratner isn't fit to live in the same universe as Tarantino. And if Quentin did direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, it would be a 100 times better than any fuffy safe movie Ratner comes up with. -
You don't have to dumb down movies to be successful! Lord of the Rings should have proven that without a doubt. This is so ridiculous. I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't April Fools Day. I've defended Ratner in the past, but he's dead to me now.
Still, having said that, I have no interest in seeing another BHC movie anyway. part III was like a bad TV show anyway. It was horrible! That movie completely destroyed Judge Reinhold's reputation in my mind, too. I don't see this one being any better. -
after i finished vomiting from reading this article,i realized that with all the remakes an sequels to r-movies that are piss poor pg 13,we should all praise and talk in reverence about the one man who mad a sequel not only as good but better and More Violent then it's R-rated predecessors.Thank you Mr.Sylvester Stallone,and Fuck you to Eddie Murphy(who hasnt made a grown up movie since the tranvestite hooker bust)
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Well, ALMOST done. I'm down to only seeing maybe 6 "Hollywood" movies a year in the theater. I've been a die hard, hard-core fan of movies since I was 12 (1992), and treat knowing everything about them as my hobby, much like most people know everything about football players and their teams. But, now, I'm really losing faith in the industry and what it has become, even though they aren't doing anything different than they've done in the past (hasn't it always been about money?), but they just have no product and no talent to helm their 'mostly' shitty ideas. I miss 1995, when, despite the movies still mostly being cheesy, they were at least mostly original and entertaining. The only real sequel I remember watching that year was "Under Siege 2," and that was better than most of the SHIT I'm seeing today. Stallone is the underrated hero of Hollywood...ONCE AGAIN.
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That would definitely be PG material there. Why oh why do another one? Everyone do the Axel Foley 80s synthesizer theme: "Dum, dum, dumdumdumdum..."
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"When I was a kid"??? Brett you oblivious douche, since when was Beverly Hills Cop ever geared towards 12 kids? I guess it's fucking inevitable since Eddie Murphy went from one of the funniest comedians around to a half assed no talent washed up Disney posterbitch, that these two would hook up and shit on his franchise as well. Granted Cop 3 wasn't much of sequel but I shiver to think how much lower they can take it now. And while they're on a roll with PG-izing Mr. Murphy's credible movies, how about a fuckin Family Fun Sequel to Trading Places? We'll have Billy Ray Valentine & Hannah Montana get caught up in another bet by the Jr. Dukes. There you go Ratner, you fucking shmuck, add that to your list of ideas!
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And since he jumped the shark, he's neither teh sukk nor the sexiest tomboy beanpole or this year's little miss sunshine.
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The fact that this guy cant see the inherent flaw in his own statement confirms the idea that he's an idiot. I mean I loved watching Robocop when I was little cos partially I knew it was something I shouldnt be allowed to see-it had waaaay too much violence in it. So therefore in order to replicate this for a modern young audience I would have to make it just as violent and heighten the restrictions on kids seeing it.making a kids film out of it destoying the whole idea. Any braindead hick could figure that out one but ratner...I dunno...Empire did an article on him in defense of him where they followed about for the day and it was notable how their defence was that he was enthusiastic and really popular in LA at parties-never ONCE did they look at his filsm with any depth and they never rated them as good or bad. It had a real feel that he invited them out in order to get some good press going and the journalists had to dodge around the fact that his films are astoundingly crap
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"If you'd moved your fat FEET when I told you, we wouldn't be hip-deep in SNOW right now!"
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The only way to hurt Ratner is by taking a hit in the wallet. He prides himself on making so many successful movies. If this movie bombs, maybe hollywood will see he's a douche and he'll actually have to work at putting together a movie, instead of having garantees hits handed to him. Don't see this movie.
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I'm not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.
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"Too hot n tha hottub. Make me sweat. Owwwww!"
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It bothers me so much that he talks about how much he loves the movie as a child and wants to take out the best parts and make a shell of a movie. Right now I'd be happy if he just took the same plot of having Axel come to L.A. and get caught up in a crime and have to solve it. Like just a regurgitaion of the first two movies. But he's actually going to make a movie worse that part 3. He's clueless. Kids know what Beverly Hills Cop is and if they don't then maybe they'll stumble upon it one day. So does that mean any movie that came out before you were 12. The last Indiana Jones movie came out in 87 or 88, whatever it was. That's more than 12 years ago and a ton of kids saw that. He's just a money-hungry douche and he wants to make it PG-13 so it's open to a bigger audience and it'll be 90 minutes so more people can go see it in a day. If he's going to do this to a movie he loves, then he doesn't love movies.
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Excluding horror, part 4 is always the most family friendly and in turn the worst.
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...just to piss all over the corpse. As if Beverly Hills Cop 3 wasn't a bad enough insult to the series, they now feel they have to go even further in fucking up a once classic character and iconic Murphy role. I mean is there any other point to doing this? I mean if it was at least a foul mouthed r-rated bloody action comedy, whether it ultimately worked or not, it would at least have the point of showing us whether Eddie is still capable of doing and convincing in the type of film that made him astar in the first place, but this? Get the fuck outta here. I guess that fuckin' Foley really isn't in here after all.
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the beverly hill's cop animated series saturday morning's!look for the mcdonald's happy meal tie-ins!
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Parents...read to your fucking progeny. Now. Right now. And keep reading to them. Get them into reading. Make reading 'kewl'. Or lock them in a basement if they refuse. Something, anything. Once that is accomplished...the film geek world will no longer be held hostage by the delicate sensibilities and whims of your entitled progeny and the need to be puritanical goody-goodies in perpetual deferment to the product of your loins. I'm not saying this out of hope for any rated R Beverly Hills Cop movie in particular but for all movies in general.I think it is arguable that half of the ass cheese in these movies is some feeble attempt at making kids laugh and have a good time. Folks, these are people who will laugh if you simply say the word "fart" much less make the sound with your hand and armpit. Catering to them, unfortunately for the most part, is at the expense of catering to us. Which is fine when its SpongeBob or the rare crossovers we can all enjoy like 'The Incredibles' or 'Toy Story'...but this need to child-proof traditionally rough and gritty rated R movie franchises from the past is arbitrarily regressive at best and a shallow money grubbing vac-u-suck at worst. Granted, even watching the *scandoulous* director's cut of Live Free or Fuck Off wasn't an improvement overall and the damage was already done by all the bullshit hype of "No, seriously...we're stretching that PG-13 farther than we did with the first Die Hard and that was rated R!!!..it's going to be super badass, not at all watered down, and you're going to eat your words!!" (GUNSHOT)It's hot as heck in here!(GUNSHOT). What the HECK do you MEAN? I'm mad as HECK and I'm not gonna take it anymore!Who is this fucking HECK guy anyway? Did the guy who invented HECK also invent DARNIT? Or maybe SHUCKS? Dangit? Cause if that guy is still alive...someone please kick his ass and keep repeating the words 'FUCK' the whole time.
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...and stop Murphy picking up that Tranny, maybe if he never got caught doing that he wouldn't have gotten onto this Disney pennance kick of his, and we might have got some actual good, fun, kickass Eddie Murphy movies over the past decade plus, instead of the endless parade of kid friendly shit that we've had to endure. The real Eddie died at the time of that arrest, and look at what his unfunny, talentless, charisma vacuum clone has wrought in his stead...horrific. Truly horrific.
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Jun 04, 2008 12:21:37 PM CDT
Just face it - there are lots of idiots & boors in the world
by moa kaka
So movies like a PG version of Beverly Hills Cop make money. That's all studios care about. We (movie buffs) may not like it, but that's how the majority of the country/world is. After all, we put George Jr. in the White House twice. Those voters are going to the movies, too.
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SouthPark "hits" a lot more than it "misses". Unfortunatley North America is full of people who think if Junior hears one "fuck" they'll be emotionally traumatized for the rest of their days.
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it has Chumpston Willybonk in it, I don't care.
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Brilliant Lucas, just brilliant!! Hey if good old George & crew can wipe their geriatric senial asses with thier own iconic characters (because we waited 20 years for this Crystal Skull circle jerk) why cant Murphy & Ratner turn around and fuck Axel Foley in the ass? Let's put him in a pink tutu while we're at it! Damn this franchise dumbing down this is kinda fun!!!!
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BCH 3 was unwatchable. THis thing is begging to be a bomb.
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Was unquestionably the worst piece of vile, runny shit this side of The Phantom Menace. George Lucas is nothing more than a cinematic date rapist - he lures you in with all kinds of promises, and when the lights go down he fucks you in the worst way possible.
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A PG-13 rating now days is WAY more liberal than it used to be. Hell, back in the 80's Die Weak 4 would have gotten an R rating just for the violence. You can swear a fair amount in a PG-13 now, and can even say Fuck once, so it could still be okay...IF Rat-turd wasn't going to ruin it with his amazing...ly bad directing "skills."
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Jun 04, 2008 12:40:19 PM CDT
SINCE SHIT SEEMS TO COME IN 4'S, I SMELL BATMAN & ROBIN AGAIN
by riddleman1674
Alien Ressurection, Live Free Or Die Hard, Saw IV, Indiana Jones & The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, the impending Terminator Salvation, why not fuck up Beverly Hills Cop ala Shumaker "nipples on the Detroit Lions jacket" style baby! Oh yeah!
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Fat, greasy, hollywood slimeball, fuck. What the hell to 10-12 year olds have to do with this? Aren't there stacks of screenplays explicitly written for that age group? Why the need to retrofit something like BHC? Man, I saw the original with my old man when I was 9 and loved it, but it certainly wasn't marketed to my age group. It was my first exposure to bearer bonds, pretentious art dealers, U.S. customs, amd using coffee to smuggle narcotics. Not to mention the sublime funkyness of Harold Faltermeyer.
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Beverly Hills Cop ISN'T FOR KIDS. The first movie was R. I think they all were. Axel drops F-bombs right and left and people get shot. It is adult fare. And today's teens who DO see the movie won't respect you, or think your movie is cool, if you dumb it down from what it is meant to be. Namely, an adult comedy-action cop movie.
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I wasn't even expecting Crusade quality but 'nuke the fridge' aside...it is that bad really?And no argument about Lucas (hence my obvious ID) but isn't it odd how...at least from my take...it seems like Lucas gets angry at the fans? Like he's a petulant child who says "You don't like me going back and destroying the whole Han Solo 'pirate-to-ally' character arc with Greedo shooting first? Well then FUCK YOU!! It's MY movie and I can do whatever I want!!! FUCK YOU!!"? I don't know the guy so I can't say for sure but I've read stuff that seems to imply he's not really a friend to the fan...you know...us dispshits who only enabled him his fucking life as he knows it now. Yeah...fuck us...we suck.
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I wish we could show the studio that we want to see an R rated movie.
I just saw a commercial on TV for auto insurance where this blue smiley face said fuck. They bleeped it out, but you know that's what he said. And then he said "What, I you can't say fuck?" and bleeped him again. Rater doesn't give a shit about the kids. He knows if it's PG or PG-13, it'l make more money than an R rated movie. And he'll make the movie 90 minutes so it can be shown more times in a day and it makes more money. He obviously doesn't care about movies. Who would take a movie they loved and cut the heart out of it. What if Porky's was one of his favorite movies? 10 year olds don't know about Porky's, so let's make that and make it PG. It can be about a bunch of High School kids get into crazy hijinx like going to the malt shop and saying geewiz. I mean come on. You're allowed one fuck in a PG-13 movie, but not in a sexual way. You can't say "I want to fuck you." but you can say "fuck you." So two Fucks make a movie an R. All we want is Axel saying fuck a few times. We don't want hard violence or grphic nudity. It's crazy. So I guess we'll get the Get Smart, Austin Powers kinda of Axel Foley. Rater said that Axel is one of the coolest characters of all time. Well, you just cut his balls off. Please let this bomb and let people really hate this and bitch. I want Ratner to look like the fool he is. -
They read my post here and have signed up Raven to star as Axel's sidekick and to sing the theme song "Hangin' With Mr Foley."
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"...know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’"Then maybe they shouldn't be your target audience, dipshit.
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Axel will say "Get the fu-GUNSHOT outta here!"
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Did anyone see the documentary on the After the Sunset DVD where it was obviously very clear that Pierce Brosnan and Selma Hayek could not stand Ratner? This again proves what a total f'n idiot he, and if the PG thing is the case, Paramount are. If they're worried about the box office well...that's a moot point as well. "Sex and the City" opened huge last week. Ratings don't matter. If an audience really wants to see a movie they'll go, and I must add, I wouldn't want to see a PG BHC. The large nostalgia factor that will bring the audiences in who loved the earlier films will be instantly pissed away if they make this idiotic move!
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Yes, Indy is truly awful. Believe me, I went in with low expectations, and I was hoping to be proven wrong. I came out shaking my head in horror, and furious at having been tricked by Lucas once again. Download it if your curious, but by the love of god don't pay to see it.
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Jun 04, 2008 12:49:35 PM CDT
“The same way it felt for me watching ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ when I
by filmfunk
I seem to remember it being a strickly adult affair what with his partner getting executed and all the Fuckin Murphy swearing etc! Don't think this dickhead could have watched Bev Hills Cop when he was a kid!
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This wanting to appeal to a wider audience thing is fine, but making a kinder gentler BHC?????? WTF???? Who wants to see that??? I am starting to understand the frustration of all of my fellow movie geeks on here. I can tolerate a lot, i can handle change to a point, but making a nicey nice BHC? God please no!!!! Oh, of course i need to complain....lol.... why do we need to be reminded in EVERY SINGLE TALKBACK that people hate Michael Bay??? No matter the talkback we have to see Damn you Michael Bay!!!! Or Fuck Michael Bay!!!! Christ, enough already, it's just plain immaturity, if you have a comment on the topic at hand fine, but dumb ass dribble like that has no place in a talkback that has nothing to do with MB. God grow up it isn't funny.
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Oh, wait..
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Jun 04, 2008 12:51:38 PM CDT
Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG remake of The Conversation
by jack-torrance
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For Phantom Menace, Attack Of The Clones, even Sith and now this godawful Crystal trainwreck. He needs to just park his fat ass on his couch at Skywalker Ranch, grow an extra couple chins and let real filmmakers get the jizzmoppers in and clean up his redundent messes. What a slap in the face to fans. Power Rangers had more character and story depth than this bullshit! Oh wait, I'm sorry, it's a "Fun popcorn" movie. My bad........
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He saw the movie with his grandfather. He said on either the rush hour 1 or 2 commentary that his grandfather couldn't speak English and he would go to movies with him and explain what was going on. So he was with an adult and could get into R rated movies. He also said that that's how he learned about movies, by explaining them. Obviously he didn't learn good enough.
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with Nick Noltes son (played by Channing Tatum) teaming up with Murphy (who is now a rap promoter so plenty of opportunities for rapper cameos) to rescue Tatums girl friend (Heidi Montag) from some criminals Nolte put away and are now out of jail and looking for revenge. One of Murphys artists played by Lil Wayne also tags along to keep things street. Nolte will not be in it because old people are gross.
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Jun 04, 2008 12:54:44 PM CDT
Breaking News: Cuba Gooding to be comic relief in Cop IV
by jack-torrance
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why dont studios want to release R-rated movies? people over 17 go to the movies too y'know...I guess its cause once you are over 17 too many people are smart enough to know when a movie is a crap from the trailer.
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Jun 04, 2008 12:55:51 PM CDT
Breaking News: Gooding's plea bargain is to do Boat Trip 2
by jack-torrance
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Jun 04, 2008 12:56:40 PM CDT
Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG-13 Henry: Portrait remake
by jack-torrance
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Jun 04, 2008 12:57:16 PM CDT
Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG-13 Clockwork Orange remake
by jack-torrance
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I actually really enjoyed Indy IV.
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But unrated DVDs outsell the PG-13 version every time. The reason R rated movies don't make as much is some people (christians) won't go see an R rated movie. And teens can' t get into an R rated movie, so even if they see it, they have to buy a ticket for something else and sneak in. It's bullshit. We need a new rating. Or tweak Pg-13 some. LEt a little more cursing go through as long as there's not excessive violence and nudity. We hear cursing all the time on TV. I mean they bleep it out, but 10 and 13 year olds know what people say.
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Cop II, Cop III, Another 48Hrs, Nutty Professor II, Dr Dolittle 2, Shrek 2, Shrek 3, Cop IV
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Yep! It had its flaws but I liked it a lot. I feared a LOST WORLD type stinker but it wasn't.
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How is it that when I was a kid my friends and I managed to see any R rated movie out there. Yet the studios claim kids don't see R movies now. I don't buy that.
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Violent R rated movies aren't that violent. I mean the Unrated versions of some horror movies are nowhere near as bad as 70's and 80's horror movies. You hardly ever see nudity in a film. I mean you're starting to see more male nudity in a movie than female nudity. It's sad.
And why is it that if you smoke in a movie, it's automaticlly R rated cause they don't want to glorify smoking cause teens might do it. But evey teen party you see in a movie, they are drinking or doing drugs. What the hell is wrong with the MPAA? -
Will see it a third, then wait for the DVD. My main quibble was the lack of cool gore, like the other ones had. But that doesn't detract from the overall entertainment value. Spielberg can still outdirect his peers when it comes to large scale action sequences.
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Have you seen the language young kids use online? I mean thanks to the internet kids can curse all they want, see the most horrific things imaginable and look at all the naked people they want. A black man saying fuck isn't going to phase them.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:08:26 PM CDT
Ratner to direct PG remake of Beverly Hills Cop after IV
by jack-torrance
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Oh, wait...
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if the rules were changed so that NO ONE under 17 (or 18) would be allowed in. Movie-loving adults do not want to watch a movie with a bunch of ADD teenagers who think they can act in theatres like they do in their friends' basements.Back in my day, here in Canada, Rated R meant no one under 18 got in. Didn't matter if you were with an adult or even your parents, if you were under 18 you were denied entrance. My brother and I went to see BHC when it came out but I couldn't get in because I was still 17. I was pissed because I was turning 18 in less than 2 months. But I grew up with a respect for movies targeted to adults. It was a privilege to see an R-rated film. Sure, all I had to do was turn 18, but it had the same sense of being a right-of-passage as getting your driver's licence or being allowed to legally drink.
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I concur with that. Take an 80s PG movie like Conan the Destroyer. That would be an easy R today. Take a movie like Risky Business, parts of that would have to be edited to get an R today. There's a good Documentary called "Thinking XXX" that is about the MPAA. Basicly if a girl is "enjoying" herself during a sex scene, that scene better be so finely cut otherwise it's almost impossible to get an R.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:16:48 PM CDT
Foley in the same league as Dr. Doolittle and The Nutty Professo
by moshmasterd
Murphy as a legit and groungbreaking comedic actor is going WAY downhill.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:16:50 PM CDT
As AXEL has cut a hole in the cloth of the truck
by i started clapping and tears of fucking
– and sunlight blazes through it… he shoots Billy Rosewood a look… that look… that goddamn AXEL FOLEY look and he says in that voice… that world weary, seen everything, been everywhere AXEL FOLEY voice and he says, “Yeah, but they all had the same problem.” Billy says, “Yeah, what’s that?” And on his way to do shit that only Axel Foley could do – he says, “They weren’t you baby!” – and I started clapping and tears of fucking joy ran down my face.
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Why? give some details please. real actual details.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:19:49 PM CDT
Murphy signs on for TRADING PLACES 2: ELECTRIC TRANNYLOO
by jack-torrance
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Teapot dome scandal... hahaha... fucking priceless.
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Starring Ludacris and Nelly
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Right, if your still not convinced that Indy IV sucks plenty of dick, here's rundown of it's crimes -
1. CGI comedy gophers.
2. Magnetic floating gunpowder.
3. Ford's ventriloquist-like performance.
4. Fridge vs Nuke.
5. Ray Winstone's character.
6. Shia playing dress up like Brando.
7. Marion doing absolutely squat except turn every scene into a soap opera.
8. The quicksand/not-quicksand snake as a rope soap opera reveal scene.
9. Waterfall x3 - without a single scratch.
10. John Hurt.
11. Aliens. Crystal Skulls and Psychic Russians.
12. CGI CGI CGI.
13. The ending.
14. The wedding.
If you like watching iconic characters get parodied and turned into laughing stocks, you'll love Indy IV. If however, you'd like to remember Indiana Jones as he was - avoid it like the fking plague. -
...or better yet, make it all a prequel with an all-children cast; younger kids playing the roles! Cause nothin' effs-up the franchise or looks better on a Happy Meal glass than a cartoony, child-like version of the original! (Ala "Muppet Babies", "Tiny Toons", "Young Scoobie Doo", "Young Sherlock Holmes", etc...)
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CGI-enhanced Tarzan LeBeouf surrounded by an army of CGI monkeys.
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Make an R-rated movie that kicks ass but doesn't dominate the box office, or make a PG-13 movie that sucks ass but has a better chance of putting more asses in the seats?
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I'm trying to save you, dude!! Don't let that fat-necked money grabber have his nasty way with you!! he doesn't even lube up first!!!
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The Arab swordsman will shoot first
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because he enjoyed it when he was a kid....of 15, or 16, if he saw it on video, is retarded, because he was 15 or 16 when he saw it. Not 10 or 12. Those few years make quite a difference at that age. AND, I'm sure an important reason that it was so cool to see as a teenager was BECAUSE it was rated R for language and violence. So making this for "the kids" is the stupidist idea, and stretch of logic imaginable.
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Hopefully he keeps the whirlybirds off the set.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:37:18 PM CDT
69DUDE DONT FORGET THOSE FEROCIOUS RED ANTS..OH YEAH, IN CGI TOO
by riddleman1674
lol No shit dude!! The list just goes on and on! I think Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford and company had to have seriously bought a bad bag of shit to sniff during production. Cant explain that garbage they put out any other way
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Jun 04, 2008 1:37:30 PM CDT
Sallah will be digitally replaced by Hayden Christensen
by jack-torrance
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a bad idea made worse by having Ratner direct. Nothing good will come from this. Where have all the creative people gone? Cuz they definately aren't in Hollywood anymore.
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Jun 04, 2008 1:41:50 PM CDT
THIS JUST IN! AXEL FOLEY & THE SECRET OF THE OOZE HAS BEEN GREEN
by riddleman1674
While ur on a roll there Mr. Torrance ;)
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I think I saw him in McDonald's the other week, asking me if I want fries with my Big Mac
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Haha another good one!
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Axel finds out his son is Gary Coleman from Different Strokes, and tries to turn him to the darkside. Gary Coleman responds, "Whatchyou talkin about Axel?"
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More than ever, studios are worried about taking a chance on an unknown property that costs them any more than $40 mill. That's the reason behind all the remakes, PG-13s, and movies lacking any balls.
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but I think this one should have zombie ghosts. They go through walls and eat brains. Tasty warm brains.And monkeys.
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BH4: Get da fuck out of here!
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Silly rabbits, Trix are for kids--and George doesn't have any neck at all.
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Directed by Ratner starring Seann William Scott and Edward Norton.
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You know...for Kids!
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who wouldve fucking thought?! this is fucking bullshit im so sick of these SOBs watering down every thing they touch. STOP BEING ASSHOLES YOU ASSHOLES.
First indy, now this? , actaully, first everything else, then this? why do they do this? I Adore beverly hills cop. I can handle some shit, but not this. Just stop beating a dead horse. I hope and prey that some marketing jerk for the studio is reading this, and takes this comment into consideration. STOP!!!!
STOP STOP STOP. WTF? seriously. I JUST GOT THROWN OUT A FUCKIN WINDOW AND YOU'RE ARRESTING ME? OH YOU'RE NOT GONNA FALL FOR THE BANANA IN THE TAILPIPE? i UNDERSTAND I HAVE SOME VACATION TIME COMING UP. HEY LETS STEAL A CAR.
we are not animals. We are people with human emotions and when you cut us, we bleed. Now i know what a postal package feels like. I need medical attention, just like Judge in BHC 3. This is bullshit. I want swearing and "herpisimplex Teeeen" and surprise inspections on honest workers who are only doing their jobs. I dont want a swear-less die soft with man-vs-battle jet. Ok? you got that? Is that too much to ask against? This sucks this sucks this suuuucks!!! i knew they would do it. They should call it daddy day camp goes to beverly hills. And i the "how i felt as a kid" thing is not open to interpretation...it means PG soft and boring. -
That Ratner is going to direct an updated remake of the entire Berlin Alexanderplatz saga set in the urban street of New York and will only be an hour and 20 min! Chris Tucker will star if they pay him more money then last time because he is that big of a star.
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And he said that him and hollywood want to turn AICN into a more family friendly place and are going to install one of those fucking cuss word moniters that other sites have so there will be no more bad language. And the words Bret Ratner will be changed to David Fincher from here on out. OH but there still won't be an edit function!
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Does anyone know if Michael Bay is working on anything right now?
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One of THE BEST opening scenes in any movie ever.
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Maybe that's why Eddie wants to work with him.
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Indy IV was like deleted scenes from Indiana Jones: The Ride. Ok, the real films had an amount of cheese, but they were still great movies (old school fx and all).
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...is this really a surprise?
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everything he touches turns to shit. eddie hasn't made a good movie since bowfinger. can't wait for this one. should be a real doozy.
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I think you're being too nice to Ratner. He said he wants it to be PG, right? Well if thats not a FOR KIDS rating then I don't know what is. Either way Ratner has officially lost any respect I had for him. He obviously doesn't understand what made these 80's films cool to us when we were kids. They were "R" rated with a juvenile sense of humor. Thats why as kids we liked them.
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in bikinis just so Ratner can nail the extras. Ratner makes movies so he can get laid. I forget, did any of the previous movies do a bit at the Playboy mansion? Seems like a natural choice for a Ratner set-piece. Maybe, if we are really really lucky, we can have a cameo by Kendra (and her crazy hyena laugh). Which reminds me, Joel Mchale was on the Late Late Show last night. Mchale rules!
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But didn't Eddie Murphie have a bastard child and he went on TV saying he wanted a blood test, because that spice girl chick was a whore? How can he go back to doing "doctor doolittle" shit after that? He should be finished with that! We need a movie executive to come in and say "Eddie Murphy? He won't go over well with the Family croud. Let's make it R." What the fuck is wrong with society?
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BHC2 was way better than BHC1, and I say this as someone who saw them at about 12 years old.
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And man, my arse is sore!
Damn, dirty pig fucker. -
he's busy destroying another aging film "franchise" at the moment
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...and look how good that one was.
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McG and Ratner? Because as mentioned, they both seem to be good at destroying things.
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If Murphy is deemed "Family Unfriendly", they won't abandon the idea of the a money-grubbing, opening weekend is all that counts, damn the critics and fans full steam ahead, PG13 film. They will simply recast. Maybe Cuba Gooding Jr. Or Martin Lawrence. Or Will Smith. Or some reject from Last Comic Standing. Or (mix it up a bit) Dane Cook. The possibilities are endless.
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FATHER GOOSE. That will have a kinds of stink on it.
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the Xenu club yet?
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in Camp Candy re-imagining.
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Wasn't that the movie about the love between a boy and his car? Starring Monkeyboy? Didn't it also have some crazy shredded Chevy running around peeing on people? Damn whoever directed that!
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First Judge Reinhold...now Camp Candy!!!! There's too many good references in the same TB.
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Why make a dumbed/ kid friendly down version of Beverly Hills Cop? Who the fuck thinks this is a good idea?
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Directed by the Rat Man!
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FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL
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I, uh, I kinda prefer BEVERLY HILLS COP 2.
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AHHH YES AWESOME! I don't care about Tony Scott, I want to see Brett Ratners re-visioning of Top Gun! Where there is not Ice man, because he was too cool, and the Bret man can't be havin NOBODY cooler then himself in his movies! And the movie has all the original songs remixed by lil'jon, and Ice Cube is the bad ass piolet. And Gary Glitter will have a cameo since Bret likes to cast pedophiles.
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thats what hollywood need to get through their heads with these types of things. they make an r rated film - kids find a way to see it and love it. so then they go and start watering the sequels down and making them FOR kids and then no one gives a shiot because adults are fucked off that they are now kiddie friendly pieces of junk and kids don;t want to see them becuase they were only interested in the naughtiness of it all to begin with.
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Actually that didn't occur to me, but now that you mention it, they have the same set-up. I was riffing on the fact that BHC and Midnight were from the same director and lucky for us, Rattner's directing a remake of the lesser of the two (IMHO).
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Maybe Eddie will curse at him about Indy IV, then shoot him.
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Lucas himself isn't even human right? He's the first free floating CGI homo sapien.I remember reading about him critiqueing Ridley Scott (which is enough to make my left eye turn demon red and shoot lasers at bunnies and hummingbirds) during the making of Gladiator saying, when on the set of the Colliseum (which was real up to the second layer which was CGI from there) that he'd have saved a ton of money and created a fully CGI Colliseum. I am not going to even explain the sheer asshattery and fucking stupidity of that statement. But I will say that I'm astounded that this guy isn't the film-geek equivalent of "The Emperor wears no clothes!" Seriously....thinking of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back as flukes...how do>Don't base it on sales, etc...I'm talking as an autuer...a filmatist...a storyteller and more importantly...a director (of which he is obviously unqualified). He is a great storyteller...or was but my real question is this...Did Tarzan LeBouf bust out a Tarzan yodel like that rascally Chewbacca did at the end of Jedi? You remember the part right? It's where Lucas bashed your head out of that magical 'suspension of disbelief' and told you "Hey! I'm a funny guy! I can make an monkey-like alien yodel like Tarzan! My grand-newphew laughed so hard he pee'd in his footsie pajamas!!!!!"?
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SCENE: PARAMOUNT SHAREHOLDERS' MEETINGSHAREHOLDER: What's the absolute biggest guaranteed return on our investment?
STUDIO EXEC: Sequels, but they're killing the golden goose. Eventually, people will get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, and our business will die.SHAREHOLDER: Sorry, I stopped listening after the word 'sequels'. -
And Lucas should help him. Gophers can swim? Right?
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Back to the Future 3 - Marty travels back in time and prevents 9/11. PG-13 Fun!
Ghostbusters 3 - Venkman/Murray's search for his pre-nuptial in Hell. PG-13 Fun! -
You are right. I get all my sequels mixed up....lol
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stick a banana in a tail-pipe in a PG film?
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Next they will change his name to "Excel Fully" to encourage kids to do their best.DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY AND GEORGE LUCAS!!!!
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And Lucas should help him. Gophers can fly? Right?
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Shia Labeef should play the gay guy in the art gallery. What was it again? Serge? Seriously, let us all rejoice. Another of our beloved Eighties classics is about to be gangraped by a bunch of studio executives. I mean, is Beverly Hills Cop really Beverly Hills Cop without the swearing and all? Oh way, I guess they already answered that question with Die Hard 4.0. And the audience will follow, like a bunch of sheeps. MMM..BAYYYYYYYYYY. BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Funny, sounds like Michael Bay. Fucking sheeps.
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...in glorious, glorious PG-13. Or maybe, if we're extra lucky, in PG, because let's face it, PG-13 is a little bit too hardcore.
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Who knows what they are actually planning, but this is yet another case of some blogger taking one quote, interpreting it in ways it was clearly not intended and then everybody else repeating the made up parts as scientific fact.
The one part you are not fair on though is saying it's clear it won't feel like the other ones. Brett Ratner is the perfect guy to direct this because 1) his best movies are rip-offs of old Eddie Murphy movies and 2) he's a hack, just like the dude that directed BEVERLY HILLS COP.
I mean your mileage may vary but I have watched that movie in recent years and I firmly believe it doesn't hold up. It's not a well directed movie or one that stands the test of time. Eddie is kind of funny in it, but mostly just compared to the garbage he does now. I don't think 48 HOURS fully holds up either but at least it's really well directed and has a great feel to it. BEVERLY HILLS COP - you had to be there. And nobody ever liked the sequels, so let's not pretend there is something to live up to here. The guy you gotta worry about is not Ratner but Murphy. Can he be funny again? Can he be likable? Does he remember how to say motherfucker? -
IF, this is aimed for a younger audience, I hope they have the Care Bears and the Teletubbies have a gangland shoot out and that they shoot out jellybeans. That would totally rock! Then Donkey from Shrek comes around a corner, sees the carnage, looks at the camera smiling and says "I'm making waffles!"
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...ASSHOLE!
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Midnight Run is fan-fucking-tastic. Anyone who doesn't love Midnight Run has no soul, heart or brain.
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Just spit it out in time and on budget. Exactly what the studio needs from this movie.
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Has anyone seen the edited for TV version of Beverly Hills Cop 1? Instead of saying "Foul mouth?... Fuck you man," Axel tells Taggert "You have a face like a pig!"
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I had to look it up to find out it was rated R, but from what I remember that film was a huge departure from the grittiness and realism of the action in the first two films.
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There really doesn't seem to be any interest at all in developing new properties, just remakes and sequels. At some point, people will lose interest. Probably around the time "Beverly Hills Cop 4" comes out.
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"...Ratner does not implicitly say BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 will carry a "safer" rating from its predecessors - although he certainly seems to imply as much."what?
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But GIGLI beats them all.
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if they must be doing all these remakes, then why not remake TPM, AOTC and ROTS.those are some films that *need* the full-scale re-imagining treatment if ever there were any. and keep Lucas away from 'em - hire McG or someone.
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Jun 04, 2008 6:19:04 PM CDT
Let's remake The Phantom Menace. SHia LABEEF is Darth Maul.
by fenrisulfr
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The Beef would play Obi-Wan. Beef with an English accent. Hells yeah.
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why not, we seem to have reached a new low point in cinematic development all the indy houses are downsizing or going away and this shit resurfaces?
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How is Martin Brest a hack? Midnight Run makes up for a million Giglis and Joe Blacks
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swear right out of the womb and watch inter-porn from their cribs at night. they watch real life war footage and email each other pictures of their private parts. i don't think we need to keep making these pg-13 shitfests because people are worried about mcclane saying "mother fucker". seriously. get some balls hollywood. buy some w/ all that money you soak up.
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we need rambo to take apart ratner's coke mansion with that jeep machine gun, film it and put it in the theaters.
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This is nothing without Gil Hill. And hey - is there any way to tie this in with Mock Trial with J. Reinhold?
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And seriously, how else can you interpret what Ratner said? Why is AICN rushing to defend Ratner? I really don't understand this. It sounds like we're going to get a whole lot of near-cussing and then later, they'll release an uncut/unrated DVD with two or three "fucks" and that's about it. I didn't go see Die Hard 4 and now I sure as hell won't go see Beverly Hills Cop 4. Thanks for saving me $7.00 admission, Ratner. Guess I can apply it toward gas or something.
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...I'd just as soon watch Fletch again. Actually, I may just do that.
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of how awesome and shocking the violence in movies was in the 1980's and argue that we are worse off for the lack of it in todays movies. I also use Kindergarten Cop. Now we get torture porn and watered down action movies. Seriously, don't these movie studios get the fact that we want to watch our hero's seriously fuck people up after they've been beat down? (ala John McLane and "Yippie Ki Aya Mother....")
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I saw the actor's studio Eddie murphy episode and he said the last Beverly hills cop sucked so bad he wouldnt want to go the pg13 route again . Instead he exlpained hed do it if they went back and made it edgier like the first two...and I agree, its already been attempted and it didnt work so why make it even softer?? Seems hollywood is slow to learn.
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*IF* they make a PG rated BHC, they might as well make a "G" rated robocop remake, a "PG" rated animal house remake, a "PG" rated "48 hours" and continue on until all R rated staple movies/characters are fucked up beyond all repair.
Kinder, gentler my ass. It's a sad state of affairs when you "pussy down" a franchise.
DIE HARD 5: The pillow fight. GMAFB already. -
just let me know when the hulk reviews come in from tonights screenings
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MEH!
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Thanks for clearing that up, octagonproplex. I wondered how you could think the death scene was unintentional, as it set up the premise for the whole movie.Not sure if you are serious about Gigli. I wouldn't go so far as to call it great but I do agree it is unfairly treated. I honestly believe it should be studied in film courses because, while it is often a terrible movie with a razor thin plot that has more holes than my underwear, you can at times see a glimmer of what could have been a good movie. Not sure if it was the result of too many rewrites (to make it a rom-com) or not enough. But I think it would make an interesting case study of how a movie can go wrong. And I have to say you have to applaud any movie that, marketed as a romantic comedy, has a gory scene of brutal violence (How much screen time was there of the brains on the fishtank?)
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Will always be Eddies finest comedy movie .
BHC4 is just another pointless sequel and will bomb.
Just let your soul glow. -
and their grandparents.
Wait for it. -
for Goofy!
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And a nice fuck you to Eddie Murphy for not doing hardcore comedy anymore. He's the suck now.
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It's tickle torture!
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EVERYTHING HE HITS, HE DESTROYS.
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It was the Dukes! It was the Dukes!
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The security of Israel is sac ... sacro ... sacrosa ... this is sum bullshit right here man! What's this fucking word? Ain't no brutha gonna say shit like that! Yo get me anotha writer, dis bitch is crazy!
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This shows our difference in generations and what we allow ourselves and the people we raise to be susceptible to. Ratner made the most hypocritical statement by saying he wanted to "cater to the kids today that were my age when I saw the first 'Beverly Hills Cop.'" He saw it, apparently, at the age of 10-12 with all the R-rated glory, so why change that experience for the 10-12 year old crowd today? Today's generation of kids are going to grow up being the biggest raging pussies on the planet. They are going to hear the word "FUCK" and piss there pants, crouch into the fetal position, and have a shit-filled pants-inducing seizure.
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Doesn't seem real, does it?
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Cause that seems to be the latest trend...
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This time, the chick just takes some Prozac and writes some lame poetry.
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What if Uwe Boll directed X-Men 4? Just hand him some comics, give him $200 million and let him loose.I think I'd actually pay to see that. It'd be more like a Wrestlemania event than a movie but hey, that makes money.
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Jun 05, 2008 1:45:05 AM CDT
ISNT THERE A PART IN BEVHILLSCOP EDDIE ACTS LIKE BIG HOMO
by groothewarrior
TO GET PAST SECURITY HE PLAYS GAY CLAIMS HE GAVE A DUDE HERPES AND HAS URGENT TEST RESULTS...oh sure lets push this on the kiddies...please
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Jun 05, 2008 1:52:47 AM CDT
yeah Axel Foley from the slums of Detroit the new young icon
by groothewarrior
i bet any hood from urban Detroit would mug Murphy so fast in real life he would be begging for his sunset boulevard transvestite hitchhiker
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Jun 05, 2008 2:01:26 AM CDT
who seen "Best Defence" the ultimate money grab he made
by groothewarrior
he rode around in a phony tank for a couple hours and adlibs baloney, he was in most of the trailer was onscreen very little, Murphy will do anything for a buck
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Ruined Die Hard 4. FUCK IT AND THE BASTARDS WHO PERPETRATE IT.
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If Axel Foley isn't Raw, Axel Foley isn't Axel Foley.
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Memories- You cunt. Midnight Run IS NOT OVERRATED. Gotham Night- That was me, and I would explain why if you weren't such an obvious waste of the time your "father" spent wanking into a plastic cup. Gigli was fucking horrible. "Gobble Gobble". Have you all forgotten?
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... when Foley says "Are you *gunshot* kidding me?"
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How come they need a frickin jungle-combine-harvester machine to gouge out a road but then after it's put out of action, they can continue to have a chase through the trees? Why bother cutting a road in the first place? Oh and did anyone really think the Tarzan/monkeys bit was a good idea? Seriously? A snake as a rope? What? If this is the best that they can come up with after several years of script tweaking, they shouldn't have bothered. I'll bet the Mummy 3 will be better than this.
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Fun you, you cake sucker.
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with Axel telling Bronson Pinchot to "Get da fuck outta here," some bananas in tailpipes, and some shooting and I'm there. None of this PG shit. BHC is NOT a kid's series. Go rewatch the first one, Ratner. See Mikey get shot in the head? See Axel take a bullet in the arm with blood smeared on the wall? See Victor Maiteland get blown away? This isn't for 10 and 12 year olds. I don't know where the hell he got that idea.
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This Midgard serpent of remakes/reboots can only go on so long. We used to make real movies. There are a million scripts out there. Let's make a few. Buy some scripts, use second tier stars (a whole lotta talent out there for cheap) keep costs down, make some money.
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You're right. There are GREAT actors in the world, but when you come down to it, it's still just PLAYING PRETEND, and I'm sure many others of us with "real" working jobs could do a fair job of it, given the chance (or inclination to move to LA and slum it out for a couple years). Acting: still beats working for a living.
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KERMIT AND FOZZY DIE IN FIRST 30 MINS. ANIMAL (a bit watered down though) MONOPOLISES FILM AS CHARACTER TESTED WELL WITH AUIDENCES IN PREVIOUS FILM. RATNER SAVES FRANCHAISE FUCKED UP BY SINGER. SINGER CHOOSES TO MAKE LONG, MELANCHOLIC, SLOW, DULL, OVERLY DOOMED ROMANTIC SEQUEL TO ELMO SAVES CHRSITMAS. SPACEY HAMS. BOSWORTH SHITE WITH NO TITS. ELMO DEPRESSED.
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no, not you ratner, the other guy, any guy (other than mcg, not that eiter of them are really guys, they're robots, and not cool robots, like c3-p0's but worse)
it could be like indy 4, it's 19 yars later, and eddies characters too old for this shit but he returns anyways for another aventure! -
That's right, Todd is dead. He died from having a piece of his ass bit out of him. Just LOOK at THAT--you can SEE he got a BIG BITE TAKEN OUT OF HIS ASS!!
Seriously, I think he died in BHCIII. I can't remember though, because that one wasn't worth remembering. -
Jun 05, 2008 11:15:23 AM CDT
cause that's why people hated the third one, setting it
by crichtonastronut
in fluffy bunny land made it too hard edged.
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wow this would make a great kids movie.
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anyone who says that, I would respond with an Axel Foley, "Git da fuck out of here!" So to Ratner, I think I speak for many when I say, git da fuck out of here.
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a strip club. Or the Hefner Mansio, and Axcel proving he wasn't always a cop. That's what the Beverkly Hills Cop franchise is all about. PG Beverly Hills is like a Christmas without Santa Clause
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when he made BHC. Yet he conveyed the wit and police skills of someone several years older. And his performance was great. I can't think of any 24 year olds who can carry a movie alone today, with that kind of personality. No one, where you say "I don't care what it's about--it's the new Eddie Murphy movie. I'm seeing it"
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Now he just wants to give criminals a hug.
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loved BHC I and II and the 48 Hours movies. Trading Places is one of my all time favorite comedies. That's Why Eddie Murphy should stay away from this movie. He was also awesome in Dream Girls.
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Get pushed into doing kids movies? Even Sly got sucked into doing Spy Kids 3-D? I wonder how long it will take for Jason Staham or Clive Owen to jump on the kiddie boat.
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It happened to the Rock and Vin Diesel. ALthough I must admit I took my kid to "Game Plan" and we both liked it a lot. Even Arnie had Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All the Way (but he's not American)
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While we're on the subject, who is working on Mad Max 4? Will they simply title it "Max," or perhaps "Rockatansky?"
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Films aimed at kids rake in huge amounts of dollars, and generally cost less to make. It also 'softens' the stars image, and generates younger fans.
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had been made to cater to the PG crowd, would they have been as popular back then as well as 20 years later? And would Murphy still be working, or would he have Judge Reinhold's career?
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I have not read this entire TB, so forgive me if I am restating an earlier point, but Murphy's career took a monstrous nose dive, until he turned completely to more family orineted fare i.e The Nutty Professor. Also, let me clarify, I was not saying that Murphy going the PG route with this movie is a good choice, I was responding to Abom's response to Series 7 - I really should have made that clear! I think it is unwise to turn Cop 4 into Diehard 4. But hard R movies do not generate the box office that PG movies do, and maybe he wants to protect his image investment as well. Although, I think his movie out this summer is R rated. It looks like a monstrous flop though.
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Larry Gigli: If by some fuckin' miracle long shot you haven't heard of my reputation let me tell you who the fuck I am! I am the fuckin' Sultan of Slick, Sadie! I am the rule of fuckin' cool! You wanna be a gangster? You wanna be a thug? You sit at my fuckin' feet and gather the pearls that emanate forth from me! Because I'm the fuckin' original, straight-first-foremost, pimp-mack, fuckin hustler, original gangster's gangster!
Thats funny and if you don't agree go take a sugar coated flying fuck off a cliff. -
and have Steve Martin as Bowfinger direct it...and have Eddie play Jiff as well...now THAT's a movie!
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What the fuck has Brett Ratner done that was good? No really? Can some one tell me, I haven't got a clue and still this scrotum of an elephant is like Bay!!! How can that be?!?!
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I mean, the only good 'Cop movie was the first one. I cannot stand 2 or 3, and this is just another in a long line of failed attempts (Nutty Professor 2, Norbit, Vampire in Brooklyn) to resurrect Murphey's career. Arguably, so was Coming to America (though I love that movie). How can Murphey be so funny still in the Shrek role, but not live action?
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SUPPORT THENIPPLESOFGOD!
WAS WRONGFULY BANED FOR SAYING NUKED THE FRIDGE! -
Jun 05, 2008 10:42:01 PM CDT
bev hills cop 3 was like die hard on an amusement park
by sylvester stabone
actually it was like live free or die hard in an amusement park, meaning both movies kinda suck. though i have more respect for bhc3. what wass john landis thinking? or was it the george lucas curse?
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and will Axel fuck a tranny hooker?
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