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Ratner Aiming For A Kinder & Gentler BEVERLY HILLS COP??

Published at: June 4, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST

Merrick here...
There's a lot of talk out there about comments made by Brett Ratner regarding the recently announced BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 in a post at MTV's website.
When asked what is biggest challenge would be, Ratner seemed to indicate that his new film would be geared towards a very PG audience. “10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’ So it’s an opportunity to make it new for kids,” Ratner said. “The same way it felt for me watching ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ when I was a kid, that’s what I want to do for kids today.”
...says THIS ARTICLE at MTV. As much as I intensely dislike his film making, it should be noted that Ratner does not implicitly say BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 will carry a "safer" rating from its predecessors - although he certainly seems to imply as much. After all, he's talking about how he felt as a "kid"...watching films that were R rated when they were released. That's a wholly different vibe than a PG or PG-13 rating would bring about. I'm not trying to make excuses for a film maker for whom there are no excuses...just trying to be fair, and suggest there might be a bit of misinterpretation afoot here. This said, we need to remember studios' increasing reluctance to release R rated fare (LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, TERMINATOR SALVATION). Regardless of what Ratner meant to say, and considering who is directing it, it's a safe bet BHC 4 won't feel like its progenitors.

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  • June 4, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    GET THE HECK OUTTA HERE!

    by dekionplexis

    BULLSHIT!

  • June 4, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Kinder and gentler???

    by Bobo_Vision

    So having Axel dress up as a big fuzzy amusement park mascot in Beverly Hills Cop 3 wasn't kid friendly enough? They want to go even shittier, huh?

  • June 4, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay..

    by Whitemouse

  • June 4, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    They are laughing at us

    by youhatestarwars

    LAUGHING. AT US.

  • June 4, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Nothing new here...

    by m_reporter

    Everyone knew that this will not be rated R.

  • June 4, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Pair Ackwel up with Chris Tucker!

    by Kubla_Khan

    What a film you'd have! I know I'd watch it - in ten years on tv!

  • June 4, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Is Hollywood seriously incapable of coming up with new ideas that they have to rehash everything? This reeks of utter desperation more than anything else, and that's before taking into consideration that Ratner's a lousy hack. "...BHC 4 won't feel like its progenitors" - thats sure is an understatement IMO, especially given that as much as I liked 1 & 2, the third was just weak...

  • June 4, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Won't feel like its progenitors?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Really. Did 2 feel like the original with slick-as-snails Tony Scott directing? Hell no. It was mediocre too, and the third one just sucked. What exactly is the pedigree we're seeking to protect here? Not to mention Ratner is a pretty good mimic, even if he's nothing special. Eh, this movie will be a bad joke no matter what. <p>It's funny though cause it's going to take the adoration of seriously flawed original series to the next level: "Oh no! Ratner's destroyed the integrity of the Beverley Hill Cop franchise!!!" LOL

  • June 4, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Bill Cosby is Cliff Huxtable in Beverly Hills Cop 4

    by ev1ldead

  • June 4, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Look it's Okey Dokey!!!!

    by ChiefRoberts

    Okey Dokey, Okey Dokey, Okey Dokey Okey!!!! Hey that's not right! Thats not the Okey Dokey shuffle!!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Bronson Pinchot in a dual role

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Balki and Serge finally meet face-to-face!

  • June 4, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Anyone remember the violence?

    by harosa

    The first 2 were very bloody in their gunfights.I'm sure the language will be toned down also.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    What the fuck is wrong with him

    by Lost Jarv

    that's the dumbest thing I've read in ages

  • June 4, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Re: Teen sidekick

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    The kid who played Short Round would be perfect! Him or Shia.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Just what Eddie Murphy needs.

    by SoWasRed2012

    Cos he's at his best when he's doing tame crap and not projects that actually have a pair.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    “10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids"

    by Trazadone

    “10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’" So what? Seriously, so what? How can he puff this up as something that needs to happen, acquainting kids with a somewhat successful series of cop movies from two decades ago? What else are today's 10 and 12 year olds unfamiliar with? Taxi Driver? Casablanca? The Teapot Dome scandal? The Lindy? Studebakers? I could go on and on.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Ratner aiming for a good kicking

    by filmcoyote

    I could give a monkey's if they make another BHC film but one for kids? Merrick is damn right when he points out that how the Rat felt about watching BHC as a kid was how a kid feels about watching an R. Hell, when i was a kid all the cool movies my friends and i loved where things like Predator, Aliens, Commando, Robocop, Beverly Hills Cop, Die Hard. We were young, we loved seeing those movies illicitly on video. To cater such films to a younger audience defeats the object. Growing up in England in the 80s we felt 18s (our R) were cool and less than 18 wasn't worth bothering. We grew up, tastes changed but that doesn't mean you take what you loved as a kid and redo it aimed at kids - heck, in reverse i don't want to see a remake of Jungle Book made as a vioent blood-bath!

  • June 4, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Let's be honest here

    by slone13

    To think that this franchise is sacred in any way is delusional. The Beverly Hills Cop movies have gotten progressively worse with each incarnation. Only the first is a "classic" by any means. #2 was mildly amusing at best, and 3 was virtually unwatchable. Does anyone REALLY care what they do with 4?

  • June 4, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Thunderbolt Ross

    by slone13

    My sentiments exactly. (If I had refreshed the page before posting I would have seen yours and not bothered, as I pretty much paraphrased everything you stated.)

  • June 4, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Let

    by Trazadone

  • June 4, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Let's not forget the old bananna in the tailpipe gag

    by Trazadone

    Actually, perhaps we should.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I'm going to go ahead and agree with Slone and Thunderbolt.

    by rbatty024

    It's a crappy franchise to begin with. No matter who was at the helm I probably wouldn't be interested. I enjoy the first one but that's about it. Ratner can fuck it up if he wants, it won't bother me. In fact, I think Ratner should take over all the tired old franchises. Maybe he can work on a follow up to Terms of Endearment/The Evening Star next.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    fuck

    by kamar

    holly fucking wood sucks

  • June 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    The first one was great.

    by argonaught

    But I agree that this 'franchise' has pretty much died with BHC2. To echo a fellow talkbacker's sentiment, this feels like their digging the grave just to deface the rotted corpse of Axel Foley.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Nosferatu

    by tomdolan04

    Yup, bang on but it goes both ways. If I were Eddie Murphy I'd be begging them to make it an R so he can let loose and just make an adult ranging flick. He seems content to be making dire kiddy flicks - the wild eyed crack talking 80's wiseass surely must be alive in him somewhere. <p> As Thunderbolt nailed quite funnily though, its Beverley Hills Cop. Dude wheres my integrity? BHC and many 80's flicks were just vehicles for the star to let loose. <p> They'll be remaking something like Commando next and rant about 'staying true to the artistic vision' lol

  • June 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    what moron

    by ZO

    is giving eddie career advice?

  • June 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Damn. Say it isnt so. I call a foul!

    by Mr402

    Eddie hung it up years ago. To remake this with him being the focus is crazy. So I propose a change of the guard. Let's get a comic who is edgy like Eddie used to be. Katt Williams comes to mind.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    when i saw these as a kid...

    by zom-bot.com

    90% of the jokes, adult humor and situations went over my head. all the cop jargon, all the dirty stuff, etc. is THAT what he wants to make? either a movie that is lacking all of that? or does he want to make a version like he (and i) remember from childhood...namely the slapstick or vulgar humor moments, intense action, screaming, jokes, etc? <P> i want to make a beverly hills cop for kids the way i remember the movie from my childhood." that's a scary statement.<P>all that said, i have no love invested in this franchise, i figured it was already dead anyway. ratner's just fucking the dead horse that was killed in 2 and beaten in pt3.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    THE RETURN OF OAKIE DOKEY!!

    by Redfive!

    HEY ITS OAKIE DOKEY!!!..as long as THE RAT Brings back The Dokey im good.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Beverly Hills Cop 3 was kinder and gentler...

    by MisterE

    Beverly Hills Cop 3 was kinder and gentler than the previous two movies, and was also a piece of crap in comparison to the first two films. Didn't Foley have a gun that shot nets instead of bullets in the third movie?

  • June 4, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    What the? Donkey is playing a cop?

    by theycallmemrglass

  • June 4, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy has no soul

    by chewyou812

    And if we're really lucky, Axle's cousin Norbit will join him in Beverly Hills as they both rely on their abilities to talk to animals to solve this latest crime.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Cube Gooding Jr. to star as Axel Foleyi n BHC5!

    by Nico Toscani

    You just know it should happen!

  • June 4, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Cuba Gooding Jr. to star as Axel Foley in BHC5!

    by Nico Toscani

    You just know it should happen! *This time with corrected typing!*

  • June 4, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    sequels, reboots, etc...sigh

    by zom-bot.com

    man i was just thinking about all the trash bin sifting and grave robbing these days for sequels, prequels and reboots. we're really at the point were, mainstream anyway, it looks like there are more sequels than original content. and it got me to think about the golden age of cinema, when a ton of original movies were made,(many of which we are remaking now in some form, surprised Bay hasn't remade casablanca yet, or rob zombie re-envisioning citizen kane)- and back when sequels were unheard of, or at the most had a totally different name and played like another chapter in a book (never had the death mark of a fat number after the title)...and if an actor was liked in a role, or two actors worked well together, it was okay to use them again for that chemistry in another, UNRELATED picture. And actors were better for it. they got to play different roles, show range. Now if we stumble upon a character or two that we like, it's just too easy to make a sequel so we can see them again, the same way, in a similar situation. and by the time pt 2 is done we realize they have worn out their welcome through repetition of what worked before. but then the box office numbers are in (because so many people turned out in hopes pt 2 would be the magic fluke that is as good as or better than pt 1) that the studios give 3 the greenlight to make more money. by that time though, the public groans and the movie is a joke.<P> in short BHC4 is the epitome of what is wrong with hollywood sequelism.

  • June 4, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Shitty movie with a shitty Director and shitty star

    by pomophobe

    This movie is going to suck shit anyway, so why bother posting news on it?

  • June 4, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Sounds like it could be fun

    by performingmonkey

    If your idea of fun is anal gang-rape (though I KNOW some of you would love to be on the receiving end...) FFS how much pain do we have to suffer? Movies like this are killing the quality of filmmaking. Why go to the effort of producing a great movie when you can hire a hack to revive a long-dead franchise and slap a kiddy rating on it to ensure BO takings?? Fuck 'em all.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    G-rated Axel Foley?!?

    by Mullah Omar

    I can see Eddie Murphy signing on for a family-friendly BHC, and if true, it is just another reminder that the guy has completely lost all cool points that he once had.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    the swearing

    by zom-bot.com

    yeah man, the swearing is what bade BHC 'fun' for us 80's kids. when we saw it on grandma's HBO or something it was like we were watching something we weren't supposed to or seeing a world we weren't meant to see yet...and we though oh, so that's what a cool, funny adult does.<P> and goddamn if we don't all fuckin cuss like a bunch of motherfuckin sailors now. is ratners gonna be full of the classic murphy swearisms? probably not.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    You didn't actually think EM was going back to making funny movi

    by Movietool

    did you? Sesame Street has more edge than Eddie Murphy nowadays.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    WTF?

    by Lloytron

    He wants to make it the same for kids now as it was when he watched it as a kid, and is doing that by toning it down? Huh? <p>If the theatrical release of BHC was the censored one they show on TV then it wouldn't have been a success, and wouldn't have spawned sequels. <p> Having said that, BH3 was an abortion so maybe it would have been a good thing.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Damn You Tomboy Beanpole

    by DamnMichaelBay

    Damn You Michael BAy

  • June 4, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    BHC 4 won't feel like its progenitors, because...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...the 80's are over! And the BHC movies are as 80's as Miami Vice.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    anyone think eddie murphy is still relevant?

    by bingcrosbyb

    raise your hand....

  • June 4, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    remember when breakthrough comedians..

    by zom-bot.com

    ...made good movies at first?<P steve martin in the jerk.<P> eddie in ..shit..everything in the eighties...<P> now we get cheaper by the dozen 5, and norbit.<P> funny though how together martin and murphy came closer to their eighties, convoluted comedy roots in bowfinger, which was still crap but closer to the home formula than any of their family garbage

  • June 4, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Ratner you fuck

    by Ferf Muckmeyer

    One of the funny things about the Beverly Hills Cop movies was it's use of the F word. Remember Foley's boss Todd who kept referring to him as "fuckin' Foley"? How could you remove that from the equation? It wasn't the funniest thing, but it added character to the movies. Now Ratner wants to dumb down this and make a kiddie friendly version? Look, I don't have as much disdain for Ratner as many of you, but this pisses me off. My kid isn't going to see BHC4 no matter what it's rated, so make it a FUCKIN' R spectacle!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    The nanny state

    by kwisatzhaderach

    is everywhere, especially Hollywood.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Whitemouse

    by Ferf Muckmeyer

    And Whitemouse, I love those "Damn You Michael Bay" comments. I second that motion.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    damn all my shit was lost

    by zom-bot.com

    i typed a crap ton more stuff. about how steve martin had the jerk, eddie owned the 80's, and now they give us family shit.<P>yet when the two paired for bowfinger (which was still crap)it was closer to the old formula of the convoluted 80's ensemble comedy than theshitty sequels they churn out now

  • June 4, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    "when I was a kid"

    by RenoNevada2000

    Eat a turd, Ratner, you were 15 when the first BHC movie came out. Don't try to pass yourself off as some rebel little 10 year old who snuck into a theater to see it. Die!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    The Hack Pack Strikes Back!!!!!!!!

    by kwisatzhaderach

    McG - Terminator Salvation! The Rat - Beverly Hills Cop 4! Paul 'the other one' Anderson - Death Wish remake! Len Wiseman - Underworld: Rise of the Lycans! All these films will suck!!! The cinematica apocalypse is upon us!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    so stupid

    by Judge Briggs

    Ratner- this guy is still finding work? Wow- I hate him more than Bay. Damn you Michael Bay! Fuck you Brett Ratner!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    bingcrosbyb...

    by ZoeFan

    He is relevant, as far as making kids movies that rake in cash. If I were to ask you what Eddie Murphy's last R movie was. I'm willing to bet you'll need a second to think about it. It was Life. Which came out in 1999!!! This whole gentler and nicer Axel Foley thing has to be part Eddie Murphy's idea.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    *Facepalm*

    by Binkysguy

    This is Murphy's chance and he is blowing it. Everyone loved his brother Charlie on the Chappell show...you know why? He reminded us of Eddie when he didn't give a fuck. Ok, Eddie, you got busted with a tranny. Own it! Use it! Richard Pryor went onstage and talked about how he used to fuck faggots and people LOVED him! Pryor had balls, Murphy is a coward. I guess that's why Pryor will be remembered as a revolutionary comedian and Eddie will be remembered as a pretender.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    That should be Death Race

    by kwisatzhaderach

    not Death Wish. Not that it makes much difference.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    If this rumor is true

    by Slippy

    then I would rather jerkoff with a cheese grater and take my shredded cock and stick it into a pile of salt.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    James Brown Celebrety Hottub Party

    by g-ride9000

    can i get in the hot tub?

  • June 4, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    "Finally! A LETHAL WEAPON I can take my kids to!"

    by Darkman

    Anyone else remember this joke from LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION? <br><br> The prohpecy has been fulfilled. (Different franchise, but you get the gist.)

  • June 4, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Axel Foley: white investment banker

    by g-ride9000

    its all part of the re-package!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    studios didnt try to make Die Hard 4 PG13

    by palooka_boy

    in the audio commentary, Len Wiseman and Bruce Willis both agree that they didn't aim for any rating at all, they just tried to make the best Die Hard ever. while it may not have been the best die hard ever, they were surprised when they didn't get the R

  • June 4, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Now that I thought about it Ratner..

    by ZoeFan

    Hasn't made an R movie since 2002's Red Dragon. And before that, his only other R movie was his first movie (Money Talks), a true sign of taking whatever was offered to him.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    How 'bout that Bnjamin Button trailer.

    by hamslime

    I guess that got lost in the shuffle with all this news about Beverly Hills Cop, The Incredible Hulk, G.I. Joe, Transformers 2, He-Man, and Death Race. Hey, at last they aren't reporting on Boll's movies anymore right. Now. What was the point of not reporting on Uwe Boll's movies again?

  • June 4, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy Completes His Career Suicide

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    The only reason Murphy should even be considering this film is to regain his credibility and bring back his adult audience after his decades-long string of shitty family films. BHC4 was a golden opportunity to revive him as a funny, foul-mouthed ADULT star. <br><br>If they water it down for PG-13, they effectivey kil what chance he had to regain that credibility, as he would have just changed his most popular series to match his current shitty persona. <br><br> Sorry Murphy. Looks like your career is over.

  • is Judge Reinhold. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got like 20 scripts already written from hard R to G. Though for some reason in all of his scripts he has the most lines???? <P> Seriously who could give a shit what Eddie Murphy does, or Cuba Gooding while were here. Eddie is and always has been too cocky and full of himself. I bet if you ask him about Pluto Nash he'll tell you its a good movie and fuck you if you disagree. I personally would rather just see Eddie go back to doing stand up. The man is not meant for kids, he does fucked up shit in real life too. But you ever noticed that almost all the actors involved in making movies/TV for kids are all fucked up in real life. While all the big action/bad ass stars are doing good Arnold is almost president, Clint Eastwood probably could be president, Sly turned out to be a real director, Bruce Willis is still alive, Steven Segal is still alive as well, and Jean Claude looks like he finally ended up in a good movie (but he probably doesn't even know he's in it).

  • June 4, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    JUDGE REINHOLD!!!

    by ZoeFan

    Best reference of the day! It's gonna be tough to beat that.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    what good movie is jean claude in?

    by zom-bot.com

  • June 4, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    He's not even making any sense

    by I Dunno

    He remembers seeing Beverly Hills Cop as a 12 year old so why does the new one have to be a PG for today's 12 year olds?

  • June 4, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    hamslime

    by Series7

    Or how about Warren Zide (Moriarty's buddy) making a new Zombie movie?

  • June 4, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Series7

    He has this movie coming out called JCVD that so far looks pretty cool.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    The original was terrible too.

    by canopus

    I was a kid then, and loved everything Eddie Murphy did, then I saw Beverly Hills Cop, it was awful. Sure, Murphy adlibbed a few funny lines, and had charm and charisma to spare, but the movie was not good. There's a reason Stallone passed on the script, he made a lot of crap back then, and even he thought this was bad. I'm glad Ratner is doing this, maybe it will keep him off Iron Man 2 if Favreau gets sick or something.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    What's with the family friendly crap?

    by bingcrosbyb

    Indy IV was watered down (he didn't even shoot anyone and it felt like a theme park ride). Terminator IV sounds all gruesome with the ending scene, but will probably show nothing interesting with it's PG-13 rating. Wtf? I may bring a gun to the opening of BHC4 and show people what the real Foley would do....

  • June 4, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Jaysus

    by tomdolan04

    They'll be remaking He-Man into a super serial LOTR style romp soo...<p> Aww crap

  • June 4, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Has anyone seen Eddies New film...

    by emeraldboy

    ok...I'll take that as a no, then....

  • June 4, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Fuck 10 & 12 year olds!

    by Marxeffect

    Not literally... but why the fuck should a Beverly Hills Cop movie be toned down for the younger crowd? fuck em, they can watch Shrek 13 instead

  • June 4, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    Series7

    by hamslime

    I think I like this game. Movies I would rather hear about: Burn After Reading, The Machine Girl (it's on DVD now by the way), The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus... I'm sure there are more but I'm going to pass out now. When I wake up, this shit better be amended ASAP. Seriously, I never wanted to be the typicall Talkbacker the gave this site shit, but if I see one more thread about Terminator Salvation: The Future Whatever, or That Fucking Ouigi Board Movie (Seriously! Come on, seriously?) I think it might be time for me to move on.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    i get what he means

    by Basehead

    bhc was one of THE movies when i was a kid. but that wasnt it the mindset of martin brest i am sure. he was just trying to make a cool movie, not a cool movie that kids will love too. i think there lies the difference, and probably the failure of this project

  • June 4, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy said Making BHC 3 was like

    by emeraldboy

    Being on a boat, with a hole in it. Somebody pointed to the hole and they carried on. But the boat filled up with water and it sank. Vanpire in brooklyn stank. The last great eddie murphy film was bowfinger.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Series7

    Does a R rating really hold people back from seeing it? Something like Die Hard 4 or Beverly Hills Cop 4 being rated PG-13 is only going to cater to the over 30 crowd who want to think they are responsible parents and bring there kids to only PG-13 or less. Anyone who would be interested in seeing BHC 4 will be old enough to "sneek" into an R rated film. Also do movie theaters actually check to see if you are under 17? Because seriously fuck'em if they do. I don't think my parents ever gave a shit what the rating of a movie was.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    You are a sick fuck, Marxeffect!

    by Razorback

    Fucking 10 & 12 year olds is illegal!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    FUCK BRETT RATNER

    by ingloriousjedi

    I feel ashamed for Eddie Murphy, almost embarrassed.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I defended Ratner at first

    by dr sauch

    But this is FAIL. Oh well, was anyone chomping at the bit for a BHC movie?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    There just aren't ANY...

    by tomdolan04

    R/NC-17/18 cert balls to the wall action romps anymore. 300 and Sin City don't count, as they as highly stylized. <p> The likes of Die Hard/Predator/Terminator in their original grittyness have been consigned to the history books. From a business point of view considering what the 80's big franchises took the whole 'appeal to broad pg-13 audiences' is daft. Not once does this complete fucking moron ask WHY he was watching this film when he was 10, as opposed to 80's shrek or whatever the equivalent of bland sensibilities were pimping the kids in those days. <p> Actually scrap that - even then 'kiddie' films consisted of The Goonies, War Games and Ferris Buellers Day Off. Their middling low key flicks beat the crap out of our top efforts, and it's not even rose-tinted nostalgia glasses talking.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    blame the bush administration

    by emeraldboy

    and the way they strangled hollywood. BUsh passed into law the family film act. This has had the effect of blanding movies. Violence, Sex, bad language are removed to make films family friendly. and that is now the law. INdy 4 was so bad of a film it turned my friends brain to mush. I hated what they did to john Hurt. It wasnt as if Lucas, the berg and ford needed the money. Why did they agree to make this shoddy piece of shit.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    would BHC be R rated today???

    by j2talk

    just asking as aside from the repeated FUCKS- and why the f should that earn an R anyway?- is there a reason that it got an R rating? or pehaps i am to jaded?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    brett ratner is gay

    by cheifchirpa3000

    gay gay ghay gey what a stupid tool does the opposite of what should be done hope he gets raped by a german shepphard and a pitbull

  • June 4, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    tomdolan04

    by Series7

    Dude Rambo was balls to the wall hard R action movie. Doomsday kind of was as well.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    so in other words it'll be...

    by Datascream

    Eddie Murphy movie #396. He'll be unfunny, bored, wanting to get off the set and collect his paycheck just like all the other movies he's done for the past 5-6 years or more. I predict this will have a Donkey, a fat suit and a stupid space robot piloted by little tiny people. Go ahead and make your crappy movie Eddie, just don't expect me to watch it. Hey kids, a falling star make a wish!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Thank god Brett Ratner's attached to this

    by IAmLegolas

    It'll keep him unavailable for a while from destroying any movies in development that I'm looking forward to.

  • That'd be my only reason to watch this trainwreck.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Movies geared for kids never age well

    by romanocc

    If you look back at alot of 80's films, they were never made for kids, they were made for an adult/older teenager, that kids could enjoy, but wouldn't get half of the humor/jokes. Look back at Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders, Back to the Future, Superman, Aliens, and comedies like Fast Times, Ghostbusters, Bev Hills Cop, Caddyshack, Stripes. All movies I loved as a 10 year old kid, and have all aged well as I still love them today. Todays movies cater to kids, and sure the kids enjoy them, but like Return of the Jedi is to my generation, we enjoyed it in 1983, but the Ewoks don't come off well on screen when your 30 years old.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    john Hurt

    by Series7

    Has been playing that same character for ages now, I am starting to think that he really is just a bumbling old man. Or did you not like how they made him invincible?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    m night shylamalam's new movie is R

    by cheifchirpa3000

    and theyre even advertising it proudly. take notes from that guy.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    There will be many gunshots in the movie.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    All in the background, though. "What the GUNSHOT is this GUNSHOT, Axel?"

  • June 4, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    By the way, who wants to bet that there will be...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...some moronic references to Shrek and donkeys in this?<p> Or do 11-year-olds, i.e. Ratt's target audience, consider Shrek not cool anymore?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    series7

    by tomdolan04

    point taken, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule. The output of 80's and early 90's cinema that combined swearing and adult themes in often non-typical 'dark' films was very high. If you take Die Hard that had a fantastically wry, tongue in cheek sense of humour and an almost child-like glee in the violence. An adult Tom and Jerry if you will. <p> The sad thing about Rambo (in the UK at least) a few of the largest cinema chains refused to show it. I think I read that there was an ongoing dispute with the distributors, coupled with (get this) 'they'd prefer not to, as they were a family orientated chain' (im paraphrasing but the gist was there). This is dangerous ground. Naturally because they didn't show it it's profits were hit (badly, though even with minimum screens it hit the top 3 that week) and the headlines on big news sites (itn.com here) pretty much screamed 'Stallone just isn't big anymore, no-one cares about this kind of flick'. <p> With this mentality we were lucky to see Rambo - and you get the feeling it was only hard R because Stallone REALLY pushed the issue.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Movies are geared toward kids now

    by Series7

    Because fucking adults don't want to go to the movie theaters anymore... because it was one thing when all you had to deal with was loud kids/crying kids who back then would get slaped by their parents. Now a days parents bring kids to theaters and don't give a shit what they do. I saw Speed Racer for the second time (best movie of the summer America) and it was just me and my girlfriend and some mom with three kids in the theater. It was like the 10pm ish showing of the movie. These kids were from 5-13. One kept getting on the phone, the other kept talking and the third one ended up sitting behind me a couple of times as he ran around the theater and kicked my chair. I turned around and looked at the mom and kid and they didn't do anything, I couldn't hit the kid I told him to stop but seriously. You can't fill the theaters with 25+ for a block buster like you used to.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Kindergarten Cop?

    by henrydalton

    Fuck. That.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Crap it's all crap

    by Jabroni

    All this remaking and restarting things from my youth is getting sickening, especially with the way things are getting watered down. Die Hard 4 was disapointing in the sense that it was not "Die Hard" it was a video game. The thought of a PG-13 Terminator sickens me. And after spending so much time on this site I know I am not the only one sick of super hero, movies, remakes, and restarts. I want some original movies god dammit. You can put things in IMAX, you can make things in 3-D, but I want something new. Don't get me wrong Iron Man was cool, in on the fence about the Hulk, because the first one was so shitty. Are we such a mindless public that we literally don't mind seeing the same movies over and over. Remakes of remakes. All the horror movie remakes are mostly crap, now we are seeing directors remake things from just 12-14 years ago that were excellent the first time (i.e. Bad Lieutenant) James Cameron must be pissed the way hollywood is killing his original vision. Looks like it finally time to go back and watch some of the cooler, smaller films that I missed over the past few years, becuase at this rate the movie business is becomming what the music industry is, a sad retread of the same crap over and over.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    FOR FUCKS SAKE!

    by BigCZee

    FUCK THE CHILDREN! We are all doomed anyways! I want to see Eddie Murphy as he should be. Not the family oriented stuff he does nowadays? The Pg-13 John McClane was awful...Please fuck the kids their taste in movies sucks anyways!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    "Get the frigg outta here!"

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    It's all about money

    by Cobb05

    Ratner is a souless piece of trash. He's not doing this for the kids. He's doing it for his bank account. He's making it PG or PG-13 so younger people can see it. He's also going to make the movie 90 minutes long. Remember I said that cause it's going to happen. Why make it 90 minutes? So it can be shown more times in one day and make more money. I don't want to hear this bull about kids not knowing what Beverly Hill Cop is. That's no excuse. First off, if a kid is an Eddie Murphy fan, the kid will look up other Murphy films. Also the Beverly Hills Cop movies are on cable or TV all the time. So kids will see them. And he just screwed up his own point. He wants to make the movie softer for kids, but he went to see an R rated movie as a kid. So why not make an R rated movie and if it looks cool, kids will want to see it. Rater makes me want to puke. He talks about being a fan of movies and how he loved all these movies as a kid. he also grew up loving the X-men and we know what he did with X3. He's just in it for the money. How can you love movies and then want to put out safe movies. He'll never make an original movie and he'll never make a good movie again. I wonder what franchine he'll ruin next? He ruined Rush Hour. He ruined X-men. Beverly Hills Cop is going to suck moose cock. Maybe one he'll look back and see all the shitty movies he's made and he'll make something good. Then he can die and rot in hell. And for anyone who is going to say "why do you hate Ratner" or "why waste your time, he sucks." Cause we knew this was going to happen. When it was anounced that he was going to direct, we knew he was going to sell out even more and make fluff, safe fluff that families can go to.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Every film maker today should rent Rambo

    by liljuniorbrown

    Seriously, that is as close to the good stuff as we'll be getting anytime soon unless Stallone writes and directs his Death Wish update,which I pray to God he will soon. Movies like the first BHC and 48 Hours are the reason i grew up thinking Eddie Murphy was the funniest guy alive, Ratner probably wants to turn it into Rush Hour 4. I'm not the type to rant but between this and the Terminator shit I am about ready to take a break from movies all together.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    "If you hurt her, I'll arrest you instead of shooting you"

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Don't care

    by Cobbio

    This news impacts my life not one iota. I laughed my ass off seeing the original "Beverly Hills Cop" in a theater, but I could give a shit what Ratner wants to do with it.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Totally agree Jabroni

    by romanocc

    The summer movies offer Zero these days, except mindless entertainment, and retreaded sequels. If you want someone to do a real sequel, just look at James Camerons work, he actually TRIED to make a better rather, rather then Spielberg/Lucas who know the name Indiana Jones/Star Wars will sell the movie itself. T2 and Aliens are two of the greatest sequels ever made, cause they tried to offer something different in terms of story, and didn't rely on 'bigger is better' although it did compliment the originals perfectly. Nobody in Hollywood takes a chance anymore, all we see is the same crap, as I am hoping that The Dark Knight will be the one worthy sequel to see. Where are the plot points like Spock dying, or Vader being Lukes father, or even Neo and Trinity both dying in the Matrix Revolutions. Whatever you think of those movies, they took a shot and didn't do a paint by numbers sequels like most sequels today.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Where in the frigg did you get a truckload of cigarettes from an

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    "What's your freaking side of the story?"

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    "Shut the frigg up!"

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Rambo

    by Series7

    Proves that not every action star has given up. Anyone dissappointed with Die Hard 4.0 or Indy the invincible and you have yet to see Rambo, you are doing yourself a disservice. All those people that had the Best Week Ever attitude about how Stallone is too old didn't bother to see it, while showing up opening day for DH and Indy expecting something as good as their childhood will eat their words when they finally see Rambo. Seriously, if you didn't see Rambo in theaters but saw Die Hard and Transformers and Ironman and Indy and the Jason Boring movies in theaters your part of the reason hard R's aren't getting made. Rambo for the most part was an independent movie and while being a modest hit, it was not a mega hit like those other movies. So why would a big studio blow money on something that is not going to make them more money back?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    brett ratner can suck a dick

    by mthrndr

    michael bay can suck a dick. movie producers and marketing groups can suck a dick.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    fuck ratner. fuck him.

    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    i saw BHC3 as a kid when it came out in theaters and i loved it. that was as tame as it should ever get.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    FUCK YOU BRETT RATNER

    by vini77

    FUCK YOU BRETT RATNER

  • June 4, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    YAWN.

    by Tony Is A Little Boy

  • June 4, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Now that we know the movie is going to be for kids

    by Cobb05

    What will the horrible storyline involve? Axel has a son? He's put in charge of the K-9 unit? The ghost of Paul Riser helps Axle solve his murder? Eddie has to done white-face and become Detective White? No guns, everyone will only carry walkie talkies? It turns out that Chris Tucker is a robot and Axle gets fatally wounded. So they peal Axle like a banana and put his skin over Chris Tucker's robotic skeleton?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Judge Reinhold gotta eat!

    by jim

    As do John Ashton, Ronny Cox,Bronson Pinchot And I'm sure Paul Reiser could use a decent meal.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    So this means...

    by BGDAWES

    No visits to the titty bar with Judge Reinhold then?

  • June 4, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    There is one good thing that can come from this

    by Series7

    that it flops, and while Ratner is directing this it will take him away from raping another franchise in the meantime (though he's been know to make movies very fast).

  • June 4, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    10 and 12 year olds

    by skimn

    could care less about Beverly Hills Cop. They're too busy jacking cars and shooting thugs playing GTA 4.<p>And all they know of Eddie Murphy is, "isn't he the guy that plays all those fat people?"

  • June 4, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Axel teams up with Raven Symone

    by jack-torrance

    I fear that I may be giving them an idea they'll use. Axel is now a calm, mature cop. He's teamed up with a young, loud, wisecracking female cop played by Raven, who reminds Axel of himself from younger days - minus all the swearing. They don't get on. They have to solve a mystery. And during the case they become friends, and he becomes a father figure to her, and at the end they capture the bad guys and put them in handcuffs. Theme song over end credits is sung by Raven. All in a nice PG-13 package.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Stick With Rush Hour 4

    by fedrich519

    ..and leave my fucking childhood alone!! Try making something original you fucking hack!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Get the freak/frigg/hell outta here!

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Nope

    by Series7

    Just confirmed, Judge Reinhold will not be in the new movie. His character will now be played by (Lil?) Bow Wow. <P> In other news actor Judge Reinhold was found dead this morning. The actor hung himself last night leaving only a note that said "You'll get yours Bret Ratner".

  • June 4, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    You know what would be cool?

    by TVguy4566

    If Axel is fired from the force and he starts a day care center in his house with Rosewood and Serge. Think of all the hilarious hijinx that would ensure.<br><br> Oh wait! Eddie Murphy already did that movie. <br><br> The more I hear about this movie, the more I think it will be a disaster.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Bring back RONNY COX

    by la_sith

  • June 4, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    What's really sad

    by Cobb05

    Is that whenever Ratner talks about his movies, he's always pumped up and smiling like a mental patient. Does he really think his last few movies were good? I have heard a lot of people bash Quentin Tarantino about how he's unoriginal and steals from other movies. Ratner isn't fit to live in the same universe as Tarantino. And if Quentin did direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, it would be a 100 times better than any fuffy safe movie Ratner comes up with.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Bret Ratner chooses teh suck. Here's why.

    by la_sith

  • June 4, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Haven't the studios learned??

    by Acappellaman

    You don't have to dumb down movies to be successful! Lord of the Rings should have proven that without a doubt. This is so ridiculous. I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't April Fools Day. I've defended Ratner in the past, but he's dead to me now. Still, having said that, I have no interest in seeing another BHC movie anyway. part III was like a bad TV show anyway. It was horrible! That movie completely destroyed Judge Reinhold's reputation in my mind, too. I don't see this one being any better.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    by FuryofthefilmFan

  • June 4, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    thank god for Stallone

    by bauer316

    after i finished vomiting from reading this article,i realized that with all the remakes an sequels to r-movies that are piss poor pg 13,we should all praise and talk in reverence about the one man who mad a sequel not only as good but better and More Violent then it's R-rated predecessors.Thank you Mr.Sylvester Stallone,and Fuck you to Eddie Murphy(who hasnt made a grown up movie since the tranvestite hooker bust)

  • June 4, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    I'm done with Hollywood...

    by kuldan

    Well, ALMOST done. I'm down to only seeing maybe 6 "Hollywood" movies a year in the theater. I've been a die hard, hard-core fan of movies since I was 12 (1992), and treat knowing everything about them as my hobby, much like most people know everything about football players and their teams. But, now, I'm really losing faith in the industry and what it has become, even though they aren't doing anything different than they've done in the past (hasn't it always been about money?), but they just have no product and no talent to helm their 'mostly' shitty ideas. I miss 1995, when, despite the movies still mostly being cheesy, they were at least mostly original and entertaining. The only real sequel I remember watching that year was "Under Siege 2," and that was better than most of the SHIT I'm seeing today. Stallone is the underrated hero of Hollywood...ONCE AGAIN.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    I say send the BH cops to Detroit...

    by EriamJH

    That would definitely be PG material there. Why oh why do another one? Everyone do the Axel Foley 80s synthesizer theme: "Dum, dum, dumdumdumdum..."

  • June 4, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    RATNER SKEETED ON X3, RH3 & NOW COP4

    by riddleman1674

    "When I was a kid"??? Brett you oblivious douche, since when was Beverly Hills Cop ever geared towards 12 kids? I guess it's fucking inevitable since Eddie Murphy went from one of the funniest comedians around to a half assed no talent washed up Disney posterbitch, that these two would hook up and shit on his franchise as well. Granted Cop 3 wasn't much of sequel but I shiver to think how much lower they can take it now. And while they're on a roll with PG-izing Mr. Murphy's credible movies, how about a fuckin Family Fun Sequel to Trading Places? We'll have Billy Ray Valentine & Hannah Montana get caught up in another bet by the Jr. Dukes. There you go Ratner, you fucking shmuck, add that to your list of ideas!

  • June 4, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Brett Ratner GOTTA EAT!!!!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    And since he jumped the shark, he's neither teh sukk nor the sexiest tomboy beanpole or this year's little miss sunshine.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Ratner needs a kindler, gentler kick up the arse

    by RockLobster800

    The fact that this guy cant see the inherent flaw in his own statement confirms the idea that he's an idiot. I mean I loved watching Robocop when I was little cos partially I knew it was something I shouldnt be allowed to see-it had waaaay too much violence in it. So therefore in order to replicate this for a modern young audience I would have to make it just as violent and heighten the restrictions on kids seeing it.making a kids film out of it destoying the whole idea. Any braindead hick could figure that out one but ratner...I dunno...Empire did an article on him in defense of him where they followed about for the day and it was notable how their defence was that he was enthusiastic and really popular in LA at parties-never ONCE did they look at his filsm with any depth and they never rated them as good or bad. It had a real feel that he invited them out in order to get some good press going and the journalists had to dodge around the fact that his films are astoundingly crap

  • June 4, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    "At least I'm thinking, DAMN-dammit!"

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    "If you'd moved your fat FEET when I told you, we wouldn't be hip-deep in SNOW right now!"

  • June 4, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Boycot this movie

    by Cobb05

    The only way to hurt Ratner is by taking a hit in the wallet. He prides himself on making so many successful movies. If this movie bombs, maybe hollywood will see he's a douche and he'll actually have to work at putting together a movie, instead of having garantees hits handed to him. Don't see this movie.

  • June 4, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    But will it have a funky synthesizer theme song?

    by Drunken Rage

  • June 4, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    PG Beverly Hills Cop? Sorry Ratner....

    by Dr Gregory House

    I'm not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Oh.....and.....

    by Dr Gregory House

    "Too hot n tha hottub. Make me sweat. Owwwww!"

  • June 4, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    I got douche chills

    by Cobb05

    It bothers me so much that he talks about how much he loves the movie as a child and wants to take out the best parts and make a shell of a movie. Right now I'd be happy if he just took the same plot of having Axel come to L.A. and get caught up in a crime and have to solve it. Like just a regurgitaion of the first two movies. But he's actually going to make a movie worse that part 3. He's clueless. Kids know what Beverly Hills Cop is and if they don't then maybe they'll stumble upon it one day. So does that mean any movie that came out before you were 12. The last Indiana Jones movie came out in 87 or 88, whatever it was. That's more than 12 years ago and a ton of kids saw that. He's just a money-hungry douche and he wants to make it PG-13 so it's open to a bigger audience and it'll be 90 minutes so more people can go see it in a day. If he's going to do this to a movie he loves, then he doesn't love movies.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    The Vegas Vacation rule of thumb

    by Frightreviews

    Excluding horror, part 4 is always the most family friendly and in turn the worst.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    So basically they are digging this back up...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...just to piss all over the corpse. As if Beverly Hills Cop 3 wasn't a bad enough insult to the series, they now feel they have to go even further in fucking up a once classic character and iconic Murphy role. I mean is there any other point to doing this? I mean if it was at least a foul mouthed r-rated bloody action comedy, whether it ultimately worked or not, it would at least have the point of showing us whether Eddie is still capable of doing and convincing in the type of film that made him astar in the first place, but this? Get the fuck outta here. I guess that fuckin' Foley really isn't in here after all.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    coming this fall to cw11

    by chainsaw1974

    the beverly hill's cop animated series saturday morning's!look for the mcdonald's happy meal tie-ins! geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Mumford Phys Ed department....

    by Darth Macchio

    Parents...read to your fucking progeny. Now. Right now. And keep reading to them. Get them into reading. Make reading 'kewl'. Or lock them in a basement if they refuse. Something, anything. Once that is accomplished...the film geek world will no longer be held hostage by the delicate sensibilities and whims of your entitled progeny and the need to be puritanical goody-goodies in perpetual deferment to the product of your loins. I'm not saying this out of hope for any rated R Beverly Hills Cop movie in particular but for all movies in general.<p>I think it is arguable that half of the ass cheese in these movies is some feeble attempt at making kids laugh and have a good time. Folks, these are people who will laugh if you simply say the word "fart" much less make the sound with your hand and armpit. Catering to them, unfortunately for the most part, is at the expense of catering to us. Which is fine when its SpongeBob or the rare crossovers we can all enjoy like 'The Incredibles' or 'Toy Story'...but this need to child-proof traditionally rough and gritty rated R movie franchises from the past is arbitrarily regressive at best and a shallow money grubbing vac-u-suck at worst. Granted, even watching the *scandoulous* director's cut of Live Free or Fuck Off wasn't an improvement overall and the damage was already done by all the bullshit hype of "No, seriously...we're stretching that PG-13 farther than we did with the first Die Hard and that was rated R!!!..it's going to be super badass, not at all watered down, and you're going to eat your words!!" (GUNSHOT)It's hot as heck in here!(GUNSHOT). What the HECK do you MEAN? I'm mad as HECK and I'm not gonna take it anymore!<p>Who is this fucking HECK guy anyway? Did the guy who invented HECK also invent DARNIT? Or maybe SHUCKS? Dangit? Cause if that guy is still alive...someone please kick his ass and keep repeating the words 'FUCK' the whole time.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    I wish I could go back in time...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...and stop Murphy picking up that Tranny, maybe if he never got caught doing that he wouldn't have gotten onto this Disney pennance kick of his, and we might have got some actual good, fun, kickass Eddie Murphy movies over the past decade plus, instead of the endless parade of kid friendly shit that we've had to endure. The real Eddie died at the time of that arrest, and look at what his unfunny, talentless, charisma vacuum clone has wrought in his stead...horrific. Truly horrific.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Just face it - there are lots of idiots & boors in the world

    by Moa Kaka

    So movies like a PG version of Beverly Hills Cop make money. That's all studios care about. We (movie buffs) may not like it, but that's how the majority of the country/world is. After all, we put George Jr. in the White House twice. Those voters are going to the movies, too.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Most 10 & 12 year olds have major potty mouths anyway

    by Yeti

    SouthPark "hits" a lot more than it "misses". Unfortunatley North America is full of people who think if Junior hears one "fuck" they'll be emotionally traumatized for the rest of their days.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    As long as...

    by 69DUDE

    it has Chumpston Willybonk in it, I don't care.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    AXEL NEEDS TO HIDE IN A FRIDGE AND SURVIVE A NUKE

    by riddleman1674

    Brilliant Lucas, just brilliant!! Hey if good old George & crew can wipe their geriatric senial asses with thier own iconic characters (because we waited 20 years for this Crystal Skull circle jerk) why cant Murphy & Ratner turn around and fuck Axel Foley in the ass? Let's put him in a pink tutu while we're at it! Damn this franchise dumbing down this is kinda fun!!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    strange, BHC 2 was the first rated R movie i ever saw

    by BMacSmith

    BCH 3 was unwatchable. THis thing is begging to be a bomb.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull

    by 69DUDE

    Was unquestionably the worst piece of vile, runny shit this side of The Phantom Menace. George Lucas is nothing more than a cinematic date rapist - he lures you in with all kinds of promises, and when the lights go down he fucks you in the worst way possible.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    The only thing I think is...

    by 2dope

    A PG-13 rating now days is WAY more liberal than it used to be. Hell, back in the 80's Die Weak 4 would have gotten an R rating just for the violence. You can swear a fair amount in a PG-13 now, and can even say Fuck once, so it could still be okay...IF Rat-turd wasn't going to ruin it with his amazing...ly bad directing "skills."

  • June 4, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    SINCE SHIT SEEMS TO COME IN 4'S, I SMELL BATMAN & ROBIN AGAIN

    by riddleman1674

    Alien Ressurection, Live Free Or Die Hard, Saw IV, Indiana Jones & The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, the impending Terminator Salvation, why not fuck up Beverly Hills Cop ala Shumaker "nipples on the Detroit Lions jacket" style baby! Oh yeah!

  • June 4, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Ratner sounds like a studio press secretary

    by juice willis

    Fat, greasy, hollywood slimeball, fuck. What the hell to 10-12 year olds have to do with this? Aren't there stacks of screenplays explicitly written for that age group? Why the need to retrofit something like BHC? Man, I saw the original with my old man when I was 9 and loved it, but it certainly wasn't marketed to my age group. It was my first exposure to bearer bonds, pretentious art dealers, U.S. customs, amd using coffee to smuggle narcotics. Not to mention the sublime funkyness of Harold Faltermeyer.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Hasn't anyone told Ratner

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Beverly Hills Cop ISN'T FOR KIDS. The first movie was R. I think they all were. Axel drops F-bombs right and left and people get shot. It is adult fare. And today's teens who DO see the movie won't respect you, or think your movie is cool, if you dumb it down from what it is meant to be. Namely, an adult comedy-action cop movie.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Indy that bad???

    by Darth Macchio

    I wasn't even expecting Crusade quality but 'nuke the fridge' aside...it is that bad really?<p>And no argument about Lucas (hence my obvious ID) but isn't it odd how...at least from my take...it seems like Lucas gets angry at the fans? Like he's a petulant child who says "You don't like me going back and destroying the whole Han Solo 'pirate-to-ally' character arc with Greedo shooting first? Well then FUCK YOU!! It's MY movie and I can do whatever I want!!! FUCK YOU!!"? I don't know the guy so I can't say for sure but I've read stuff that seems to imply he's not really a friend to the fan...you know...us dispshits who only enabled him his fucking life as he knows it now. Yeah...fuck us...we suck.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    I wish we could start a petition

    by Cobb05

    I wish we could show the studio that we want to see an R rated movie. I just saw a commercial on TV for auto insurance where this blue smiley face said fuck. They bleeped it out, but you know that's what he said. And then he said "What, I you can't say fuck?" and bleeped him again. Rater doesn't give a shit about the kids. He knows if it's PG or PG-13, it'l make more money than an R rated movie. And he'll make the movie 90 minutes so it can be shown more times in a day and it makes more money. He obviously doesn't care about movies. Who would take a movie they loved and cut the heart out of it. What if Porky's was one of his favorite movies? 10 year olds don't know about Porky's, so let's make that and make it PG. It can be about a bunch of High School kids get into crazy hijinx like going to the malt shop and saying geewiz. I mean come on. You're allowed one fuck in a PG-13 movie, but not in a sexual way. You can't say "I want to fuck you." but you can say "fuck you." So two Fucks make a movie an R. All we want is Axel saying fuck a few times. We don't want hard violence or grphic nudity. It's crazy. So I guess we'll get the Get Smart, Austin Powers kinda of Axel Foley. Rater said that Axel is one of the coolest characters of all time. Well, you just cut his balls off. Please let this bomb and let people really hate this and bitch. I want Ratner to look like the fool he is.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Breaking News! Raven Symone cast in BHC IV

    by jack-torrance

    They read my post here and have signed up Raven to star as Axel's sidekick and to sing the theme song "Hangin' With Mr Foley."

  • June 4, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    “10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really

    by jim

    "...know the old ‘Beverly Hills Cop.’"<p>Then maybe they shouldn't be your target audience, dipshit.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Bow Wow will be Raven's boyfriend

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    And like Live Free or Die Hard

    by jack-torrance

    Axel will say "Get the fu-GUNSHOT outta here!"

  • June 4, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct The Godfather Part IV

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Box Office- what's the problem?

    by Ed Okin

    Did anyone see the documentary on the After the Sunset DVD where it was obviously very clear that Pierce Brosnan and Selma Hayek could not stand Ratner? This again proves what a total f'n idiot he, and if the PG thing is the case, Paramount are. If they're worried about the box office well...that's a moot point as well. "Sex and the City" opened huge last week. Ratings don't matter. If an audience really wants to see a movie they'll go, and I must add, I wouldn't want to see a PG BHC. The large nostalgia factor that will bring the audiences in who loved the earlier films will be instantly pissed away if they make this idiotic move!

  • June 4, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Citizen Kane II

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct E.T. Part 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct E.T. Part 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Darth Macchio

    by 69DUDE

    Yes, Indy is truly awful. Believe me, I went in with low expectations, and I was hoping to be proven wrong. I came out shaking my head in horror, and furious at having been tricked by Lucas once again. Download it if your curious, but by the love of god don't pay to see it.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG-13 Exorcist remake

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct remake of Breakin' 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Electric Boogaloo

    by jack-torrance

  • I seem to remember it being a strickly adult affair what with his partner getting executed and all the Fuckin Murphy swearing etc! <P>Don't think this dickhead could have watched Bev Hills Cop when he was a kid!

  • June 4, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Shawshank 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Iron Man 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    More nonsense

    by rogueleader66

    This wanting to appeal to a wider audience thing is fine, but making a kinder gentler BHC?????? WTF???? Who wants to see that??? I am starting to understand the frustration of all of my fellow movie geeks on here. I can tolerate a lot, i can handle change to a point, but making a nicey nice BHC? God please no!!!! Oh, of course i need to complain....lol.... why do we need to be reminded in EVERY SINGLE TALKBACK that people hate Michael Bay??? No matter the talkback we have to see Damn you Michael Bay!!!! Or Fuck Michael Bay!!!! Christ, enough already, it's just plain immaturity, if you have a comment on the topic at hand fine, but dumb ass dribble like that has no place in a talkback that has nothing to do with MB. God grow up it isn't funny.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Manhunter remake

    by jim

    Oh, wait..

  • June 4, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct The Hobbit 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG remake of The Conversation

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct G remake of Psycho

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG Saw VI

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Rush Hour 4

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    And Rush Hour 5

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct INDY V

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    69DUDE WELL SAID. LUCAS NEEDS TO BE BITCH SLAPPED

    by riddleman1674

    For Phantom Menace, Attack Of The Clones, even Sith and now this godawful Crystal trainwreck. He needs to just park his fat ass on his couch at Skywalker Ranch, grow an extra couple chins and let real filmmakers get the jizzmoppers in and clean up his redundent messes. What a slap in the face to fans. Power Rangers had more character and story depth than this bullshit! Oh wait, I'm sorry, it's a "Fun popcorn" movie. My bad........

  • June 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    FILMFUNK

    by Cobb05

    He saw the movie with his grandfather. He said on either the rush hour 1 or 2 commentary that his grandfather couldn't speak English and he would go to movies with him and explain what was going on. So he was with an adult and could get into R rated movies. He also said that that's how he learned about movies, by explaining them. Obviously he didn't learn good enough.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Raven Symone to write Cop IV script

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Bow Wow to exec produce Cop IV

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    They should make a PG-13 48 Hrs sequel

    by mr.brownstone

    with Nick Noltes son (played by Channing Tatum) teaming up with Murphy (who is now a rap promoter so plenty of opportunities for rapper cameos) to rescue Tatums girl friend (Heidi Montag) from some criminals Nolte put away and are now out of jail and looking for revenge. One of Murphys artists played by Lil Wayne also tags along to keep things street. Nolte will not be in it because old people are gross.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Cuba Gooding to be comic relief in Cop IV

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    R rating

    by redkamel

    why dont studios want to release R-rated movies? people over 17 go to the movies too y'know...I guess its cause once you are over 17 too many people are smart enough to know when a movie is a crap from the trailer.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Cuba Gooding shoots his agent

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Gooding's plea bargain is to do Boat Trip 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct Boat Trip 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG-13 Henry: Portrait remake

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Breaking News: Ratner to direct PG-13 Clockwork Orange remake

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    octagonproplex

    by jack-torrance

    I actually really enjoyed Indy IV.

  • June 4, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Pluto Nash 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Holy Man 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Studios don't want to make R rated movies

    by Cobb05

    But unrated DVDs outsell the PG-13 version every time. The reason R rated movies don't make as much is some people (christians) won't go see an R rated movie. And teens can' t get into an R rated movie, so even if they see it, they have to buy a ticket for something else and sneak in. It's bullshit. We need a new rating. Or tweak Pg-13 some. LEt a little more cursing go through as long as there's not excessive violence and nudity. We hear cursing all the time on TV. I mean they bleep it out, but 10 and 13 year olds know what people say.

  • June 4, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Cop IV will be Eddie's EIGHTH sequel

    by jack-torrance

    Cop II, Cop III, Another 48Hrs, Nutty Professor II, Dr Dolittle 2, Shrek 2, Shrek 3, Cop IV

  • June 4, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    octagonproplex

    by jack-torrance

    Yep! It had its flaws but I liked it a lot. I feared a LOST WORLD type stinker but it wasn't.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Metro 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Showtime 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Best Defence II

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Bowfinger 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I get a lot of things, but I don't get this

    by ZoeFan

    How is it that when I was a kid my friends and I managed to see any R rated movie out there. Yet the studios claim kids don't see R movies now. I don't buy that.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    R rated movies aren't even R rated

    by Cobb05

    Violent R rated movies aren't that violent. I mean the Unrated versions of some horror movies are nowhere near as bad as 70's and 80's horror movies. You hardly ever see nudity in a film. I mean you're starting to see more male nudity in a movie than female nudity. It's sad. And why is it that if you smoke in a movie, it's automaticlly R rated cause they don't want to glorify smoking cause teens might do it. But evey teen party you see in a movie, they are drinking or doing drugs. What the hell is wrong with the MPAA?

  • June 4, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Meet Dave 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Norbit 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Haunted Mansion 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for I-Spy 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Brett Ratner to direct remake of Last Action Hero

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    octagonproplex - Seen it twice

    by jack-torrance

    Will see it a third, then wait for the DVD. My main quibble was the lack of cool gore, like the other ones had. But that doesn't detract from the overall entertainment value. Spielberg can still outdirect his peers when it comes to large scale action sequences.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    young kids and cursing

    by Cobb05

    Have you seen the language young kids use online? I mean thanks to the internet kids can curse all they want, see the most horrific things imaginable and look at all the naked people they want. A black man saying fuck isn't going to phase them.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy signs for Beverly Hills Cop V

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG remake of Beverly Hills Cop after IV

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    McG to direct PG-13 Terminator 4

    by jack-torrance

    Oh, wait...

  • June 4, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG Die Hard V

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Raven Symone to direct Beverly Hills Cop V

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    More adults would go see R-rated films

    by jim

    if the rules were changed so that NO ONE under 17 (or 18) would be allowed in. Movie-loving adults do not want to watch a movie with a bunch of ADD teenagers who think they can act in theatres like they do in their friends' basements.<p>Back in my day, here in Canada, Rated R meant no one under 18 got in. Didn't matter if you were with an adult or even your parents, if you were under 18 you were denied entrance. My brother and I went to see BHC when it came out but I couldn't get in because I was still 17. I was pissed because I was turning 18 in less than 2 months. But I grew up with a respect for movies targeted to adults. It was a privilege to see an R-rated film. Sure, all I had to do was turn 18, but it had the same sense of being a right-of-passage as getting your driver's licence or being allowed to legally drink.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    R rated movies aren't even R rated (Part 2)

    by ZoeFan

    I concur with that. Take an 80s PG movie like Conan the Destroyer. That would be an easy R today. Take a movie like Risky Business, parts of that would have to be edited to get an R today. There's a good Documentary called "Thinking XXX" that is about the MPAA. Basicly if a girl is "enjoying" herself during a sex scene, that scene better be so finely cut otherwise it's almost impossible to get an R.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Foley in the same league as Dr. Doolittle and The Nutty Professo

    by MoshMasterD

    Murphy as a legit and groungbreaking comedic actor is going WAY downhill.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    As AXEL has cut a hole in the cloth of the truck

    by I started clapping and tears of fucking joy ran down my face

    – and sunlight blazes through it… he shoots Billy Rosewood a look… that look… that goddamn AXEL FOLEY look and he says in that voice… that world weary, seen everything, been everywhere AXEL FOLEY voice and he says, “Yeah, but they all had the same problem.” Billy says, “Yeah, what’s that?” And on his way to do shit that only Axel Foley could do – he says, “They weren’t you baby!” – and I started clapping and tears of fucking joy ran down my face.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Ain’t that the truth.

    by I started clapping and tears of fucking joy ran down my face

  • June 4, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Not a fan of ratners filmmaking style

    by BendersShinyAss

    Why? give some details please. real actual details.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Murphy signs on for TRADING PLACES 2: ELECTRIC TRANNYLOO

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Hey Trazadone

    by Alkeoholic77

    Teapot dome scandal... hahaha... fucking priceless.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Murphy signs on for Ratner's RED DRAGON 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Murphy signs on for Ratner's FAMILY MAN 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG remake of The Shining

    by jack-torrance

    Starring Ludacris and Nelly

  • June 4, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG Predator 3

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG Alien V

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Octagonproplex

    by 69DUDE

    Right, if your still not convinced that Indy IV sucks plenty of dick, here's rundown of it's crimes - 1. CGI comedy gophers. 2. Magnetic floating gunpowder. 3. Ford's ventriloquist-like performance. 4. Fridge vs Nuke. 5. Ray Winstone's character. 6. Shia playing dress up like Brando. 7. Marion doing absolutely squat except turn every scene into a soap opera. 8. The quicksand/not-quicksand snake as a rope soap opera reveal scene. 9. Waterfall x3 - without a single scratch. 10. John Hurt. 11. Aliens. Crystal Skulls and Psychic Russians. 12. CGI CGI CGI. 13. The ending. 14. The wedding. If you like watching iconic characters get parodied and turned into laughing stocks, you'll love Indy IV. If however, you'd like to remember Indiana Jones as he was - avoid it like the fking plague.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Introduce his illegitimate kid for that family crowd...

    by EriamJH

    ...or better yet, make it all a prequel with an all-children cast; younger kids playing the roles! Cause nothin' effs-up the franchise or looks better on a Happy Meal glass than a cartoony, child-like version of the original! (Ala "Muppet Babies", "Tiny Toons", "Young Scoobie Doo", "Young Sherlock Holmes", etc...)

  • June 4, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Oh my god, I can't believe I forgot this...

    by 69DUDE

    CGI-enhanced Tarzan LeBeouf surrounded by an army of CGI monkeys.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG remake of Money Talks

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct PG Money Talks 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Ratner to direct Beverly Hills Rush Talks Money Cop 17

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Arnie to do Collateral Damage 2

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Hey, Hollywood, I've considered your dilemma.

    by Baked

    Make an R-rated movie that kicks ass but doesn't dominate the box office, or make a PG-13 movie that sucks ass but has a better chance of putting more asses in the seats? FUCK YOU! THERE IS NO DILEMMA, YOU FUCKS! MAKE A GOOD MOVIE!

  • June 4, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Directed by Lewis Teague

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    octagonproplex

    by 69DUDE

    I'm trying to save you, dude!! Don't let that fat-necked money grabber have his nasty way with you!! he doesn't even lube up first!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Andrew Davis to direct SAW IX

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    George Lucas to release special editions of INDY I-III

    by jack-torrance

    The Arab swordsman will shoot first

  • June 4, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Ratner making Cop for 10 - 12 year olds

    by skimn

    because he enjoyed it when he was a kid....of 15, or 16, if he saw it on video, is retarded, because he was 15 or 16 when he saw it. Not 10 or 12. Those few years make quite a difference at that age. AND, I'm sure an important reason that it was so cool to see as a teenager was BECAUSE it was rated R for language and violence. So making this for "the kids" is the stupidist idea, and stretch of logic imaginable.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Mola Ram will be remastered in CG

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Ratner's the new John Landis

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Hopefully he keeps the whirlybirds off the set.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    69DUDE DONT FORGET THOSE FEROCIOUS RED ANTS..OH YEAH, IN CGI TOO

    by riddleman1674

    lol No shit dude!! The list just goes on and on! I think Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford and company had to have seriously bought a bad bag of shit to sniff during production. Cant explain that garbage they put out any other way

  • June 4, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Sallah will be digitally replaced by Hayden Christensen

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Well of Souls will be digital set

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Belloq will have new scene as digital character

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    The Ark will be played by Ahmed Best

    by jack-torrance

  • June 4, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    BHC 4 is a bad idea...

    by Icht Buff

    a bad idea made worse by having Ratner direct. Nothing good will come from this. Where have all the creative people gone? Cuz they definately aren't in Hollywood anymore.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN! AXEL FOLEY & THE SECRET OF THE OOZE HAS BEEN GREEN

    by riddleman1674

    While ur on a roll there Mr. Torrance ;)

  • June 4, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen Ahmed "Jar Jar" Best lately?

    by jack-torrance

    I think I saw him in McDonald's the other week, asking me if I want fries with my Big Mac

  • June 4, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES & THE QUEST FOR GEORGE LUCAS'S BRAIN

    by riddleman1674

    Haha another good one!

  • June 4, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Beverly Hills Cop Episode IV: A New Hope

    by romanocc

    Axel finds out his son is Gary Coleman from Different Strokes, and tries to turn him to the darkside. Gary Coleman responds, "Whatchyou talkin about Axel?"

  • June 4, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Icht Buff...

    by ZoeFan

    More than ever, studios are worried about taking a chance on an unknown property that costs them any more than $40 mill. That's the reason behind all the remakes, PG-13s, and movies lacking any balls.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    I haven't seen any of the BHC movies

    by bobjustbob

    but I think this one should have zombie ghosts. They go through walls and eat brains. Tasty warm brains.<p><p>And monkeys.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    The subtitle should read

    by Abominable Snowcone

    BH4: Get da fuck out of here!<p> But after they dumb it down, it will be about a married Axel, who has kids, and is trying to help an orphanage get back their stolen basket of puppies

  • June 4, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    69 Dude and Octagon

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Silly rabbits, Trix are for kids--and George doesn't have any neck at all.

  • June 4, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    At least it's not a Midnight Run remake

    by Wee Willie

    Directed by Ratner starring Seann William Scott and Edward Norton.

  • June 4, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy: Delerious 2 - Kindler & Gentler

    by pokadoo

    You know...for Kids!

  • June 4, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    they're gonna piss on it?

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

    who wouldve fucking thought?! this is fucking bullshit im so sick of these SOBs watering down every thing they touch. STOP BEING ASSHOLES YOU ASSHOLES. First indy, now this? , actaully, first everything else, then this? why do they do this? I Adore beverly hills cop. I can handle some shit, but not this. Just stop beating a dead horse. I hope and prey that some marketing jerk for the studio is reading this, and takes this comment into consideration. STOP!!!! STOP STOP STOP. WTF? seriously. I JUST GOT THROWN OUT A FUCKIN WINDOW AND YOU'RE ARRESTING ME? OH YOU'RE NOT GONNA FALL FOR THE BANANA IN THE TAILPIPE? i UNDERSTAND I HAVE SOME VACATION TIME COMING UP. HEY LETS STEAL A CAR. we are not animals. We are people with human emotions and when you cut us, we bleed. Now i know what a postal package feels like. I need medical attention, just like Judge in BHC 3. This is bullshit. I want swearing and "herpisimplex Teeeen" and surprise inspections on honest workers who are only doing their jobs. I dont want a swear-less die soft with man-vs-battle jet. Ok? you got that? Is that too much to ask against? This sucks this sucks this suuuucks!!! i knew they would do it. They should call it daddy day camp goes to beverly hills. And i the "how i felt as a kid" thing is not open to interpretation...it means PG soft and boring.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    I just heard

    by Series7

    That Ratner is going to direct an updated remake of the entire Berlin Alexanderplatz saga set in the urban street of New York and will only be an hour and 20 min! <P> Chris Tucker will star if they pay him more money then last time because he is that big of a star.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Harry just got off the phone with Bret Ratner

    by Series7

    And he said that him and hollywood want to turn AICN into a more family friendly place and are going to install one of those fucking cuss word moniters that other sites have so there will be no more bad language. And the words Bret Ratner will be changed to David Fincher from here on out. OH but there still won't be an edit function!

  • June 4, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by bobjustbob

    Does anyone know if Michael Bay is working on anything right now?

  • June 4, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    The opening to BHC 2 is...

    by ZoeFan

    One of THE BEST opening scenes in any movie ever.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Ratner's Tranny Story

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Maybe that's why Eddie wants to work with him.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Damn you George Lucas

    by 69DUDE

    Indy IV was like deleted scenes from Indiana Jones: The Ride. Ok, the real films had an amount of cheese, but they were still great movies (old school fx and all).

  • June 4, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    After the George Lucas cameo in 3...

    by DarthCorleone

    ...is this really a surprise?

  • June 4, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Ratner is a douchbag.

    by dirty john

    everything he touches turns to shit. eddie hasn't made a good movie since bowfinger. can't wait for this one. should be a real doozy.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Uh...Merrick?

    by fassbinder79

    I think you're being too nice to Ratner. He said he wants it to be PG, right? Well if thats not a FOR KIDS rating then I don't know what is. Either way Ratner has officially lost any respect I had for him. He obviously doesn't understand what made these 80's films cool to us when we were kids. They were "R" rated with a juvenile sense of humor. Thats why as kids we liked them.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    There will be a scene with a hundred models

    by jim

    in bikinis just so Ratner can nail the extras. Ratner makes movies so he can get laid. I forget, did any of the previous movies do a bit at the Playboy mansion? Seems like a natural choice for a Ratner set-piece. Maybe, if we are really really lucky, we can have a cameo by Kendra (and her crazy hyena laugh). Which reminds me, Joel Mchale was on the Late Late Show last night. Mchale rules!

  • June 4, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Where are the asshole movie executives when you need them?

    by punto

    But didn't Eddie Murphie have a bastard child and he went on TV saying he wanted a blood test, because that spice girl chick was a whore? How can he go back to doing "doctor doolittle" shit after that? He should be finished with that! We need a movie executive to come in and say "Eddie Murphy? He won't go over well with the Family croud. Let's make it R." What the fuck is wrong with society?

  • June 4, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    also

    by punto

    BHC2 was way better than BHC1, and I say this as someone who saw them at about 12 years old.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Ratner raping my childhood

    by darquelyte

    And man, my arse is sore! Damn, dirty pig fucker.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    What, was McG busy? Yes actually

    by Samuel Fulmer

    he's busy destroying another aging film "franchise" at the moment

  • June 4, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Wasn't BHC 3 PG-13?

    by The Dum Guy

    ...and look how good that one was.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Who would win in a fight between

    by ZoeFan

    McG and Ratner? Because as mentioned, they both seem to be good at destroying things.

  • June 4, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    punto, that won't help

    by jim

    If Murphy is deemed "Family Unfriendly", they won't abandon the idea of the a money-grubbing, opening weekend is all that counts, damn the critics and fans full steam ahead, PG13 film. They will simply recast. Maybe Cuba Gooding Jr. Or Martin Lawrence. Or Will Smith. Or some reject from Last Comic Standing. Or (mix it up a bit) Dane Cook. The possibilities are endless.

  • June 4, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for the remake of

    by bobjustbob

    FATHER GOOSE. That will have a kinds of stink on it.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Has Will Smith joined

    by Samuel Fulmer

    the Xenu club yet?

  • June 4, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    CGI John Candy

    by Samuel Fulmer

    in Camp Candy re-imagining.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Transformers

    by bobjustbob

    Wasn't that the movie about the love between a boy and his car? Starring Monkeyboy? Didn't it also have some crazy shredded Chevy running around peeing on people? Damn whoever directed that!

  • June 4, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Camp Candy??!!!!

    by ZoeFan

    First Judge Reinhold...now Camp Candy!!!! There's too many good references in the same TB.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    FUCK THIS. AXEL FOLEY IS NOT A PUSSY

    by DARTH VOODOO

    Why make a dumbed/ kid friendly down version of Beverly Hills Cop? Who the fuck thinks this is a good idea?

  • June 4, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Coming Soon PG-13 Showgirls 2

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Directed by the Rat Man!

  • June 4, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    bet you he'll get rid of the original theme song too

    by turketron

    FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL

  • June 4, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST

    BRING BACK TONY SCOTT!

    by caruso_stalker217

    I, uh, I kinda prefer BEVERLY HILLS COP 2.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    caruso_stalker217

    by Series7

    AHHH YES AWESOME! I don't care about Tony Scott, I want to see Brett Ratners re-visioning of Top Gun! Where there is not Ice man, because he was too cool, and the Bret man can't be havin NOBODY cooler then himself in his movies! And the movie has all the original songs remixed by lil'jon, and Ice Cube is the bad ass piolet. And Gary Glitter will have a cameo since Bret likes to cast pedophiles.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    kids wanted to see BHC because it was R rated

    by slappy jones

    thats what hollywood need to get through their heads with these types of things. they make an r rated film - kids find a way to see it and love it. so then they go and start watering the sequels down and making them FOR kids and then no one gives a shiot because adults are fucked off that they are now kiddie friendly pieces of junk and kids don;t want to see them becuase they were only interested in the naughtiness of it all to begin with.

  • June 4, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    octagonproplex

    by Wee Willie

    Actually that didn't occur to me, but now that you mention it, they have the same set-up. I was riffing on the fact that BHC and Midnight were from the same director and lucky for us, Rattner's directing a remake of the lesser of the two (IMHO). Any yes, Rundown was kind of apleasant surprise, lots of fun.

  • June 4, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Will Lucas show up in BHC4?

    by bingcrosbyb

    Maybe Eddie will curse at him about Indy IV, then shoot him.

  • June 4, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    69DUDE...you do realize that...

    by Darth Macchio

    Lucas himself isn't even human right? He's the first free floating CGI homo sapien.<p>I remember reading about him critiqueing Ridley Scott (which is enough to make my left eye turn demon red and shoot lasers at bunnies and hummingbirds) during the making of Gladiator saying, when on the set of the Colliseum (which was real up to the second layer which was CGI from there) that he'd have saved a ton of money and created a fully CGI Colliseum. I am not going to even explain the sheer asshattery and fucking stupidity of that statement. But I will say that I'm astounded that this guy isn't the film-geek equivalent of "The Emperor wears no clothes!" Seriously....thinking of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back as flukes...how do>Don't base it on sales, etc...I'm talking as an autuer...a filmatist...a storyteller and more importantly...a director (of which he is obviously unqualified). He is a great storyteller...or was but my real question is this...<p>Did Tarzan LeBouf bust out a Tarzan yodel like that rascally Chewbacca did at the end of Jedi? You remember the part right? It's where Lucas bashed your head out of that magical 'suspension of disbelief' and told you "Hey! I'm a funny guy! I can make an monkey-like alien yodel like Tarzan! My grand-newphew laughed so hard he pee'd in his footsie pajamas!!!!!"?

  • June 4, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Almighty Euro

    by YakMalla

    SCENE: PARAMOUNT SHAREHOLDERS' MEETING<p>SHAREHOLDER: What's the absolute biggest guaranteed return on our investment?<p> STUDIO EXEC: Sequels, but they're killing the golden goose. Eventually, people will get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, and our business will die.<p>SHAREHOLDER: Sorry, I stopped listening after the word 'sequels'.

  • June 4, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Spielberg should remake JAWS

    by bobjustbob

    And Lucas should help him. Gophers can swim? Right?

  • June 4, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    I can see it now....

    by bingcrosbyb

    Back to the Future 3 - Marty travels back in time and prevents 9/11. PG-13 Fun! Ghostbusters 3 - Venkman/Murray's search for his pre-nuptial in Hell. PG-13 Fun!

  • June 4, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    gotham_night,

    by bingcrosbyb

    You are right. I get all my sequels mixed up....lol

  • June 4, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    can you

    by calvinballs

    stick a banana in a tail-pipe in a PG film?

  • June 4, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Fuck this!

    by br1947

    Next they will change his name to "Excel Fully" to encourage kids to do their best.<br><br>DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY AND GEORGE LUCAS!!!!

  • June 4, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Spielberg should remake HOOK

    by bobjustbob

    And Lucas should help him. Gophers can fly? Right?

  • June 4, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeef as the gay guy in the art gallery.

    by Fenrisulfr

    Shia Labeef should play the gay guy in the art gallery. What was it again? Serge? Seriously, let us all rejoice. Another of our beloved Eighties classics is about to be gangraped by a bunch of studio executives. I mean, is Beverly Hills Cop really Beverly Hills Cop without the swearing and all? Oh way, I guess they already answered that question with Die Hard 4.0. And the audience will follow, like a bunch of sheeps. MMM..BAYYYYYYYYYY. BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Funny, sounds like Michael Bay. Fucking sheeps.

  • June 4, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for Beverly Hills Cop vs Predator..

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...in glorious, glorious PG-13. Or maybe, if we're extra lucky, in PG, because let's face it, PG-13 is a little bit too hardcore.

  • June 4, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    thanks Merrick

    by Vern

    Who knows what they are actually planning, but this is yet another case of some blogger taking one quote, interpreting it in ways it was clearly not intended and then everybody else repeating the made up parts as scientific fact.<p> The one part you are not fair on though is saying it's clear it won't feel like the other ones. Brett Ratner is the perfect guy to direct this because 1) his best movies are rip-offs of old Eddie Murphy movies and 2) he's a hack, just like the dude that directed BEVERLY HILLS COP.<P> I mean your mileage may vary but I have watched that movie in recent years and I firmly believe it doesn't hold up. It's not a well directed movie or one that stands the test of time. Eddie is kind of funny in it, but mostly just compared to the garbage he does now. I don't think 48 HOURS fully holds up either but at least it's really well directed and has a great feel to it. BEVERLY HILLS COP - you had to be there. And nobody ever liked the sequels, so let's not pretend there is something to live up to here. The guy you gotta worry about is not Ratner but Murphy. Can he be funny again? Can he be likable? Does he remember how to say motherfucker?

  • June 4, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Idea for Beverly Hills Cop 4. . .

    by Violator90

    IF, this is aimed for a younger audience, I hope they have the Care Bears and the Teletubbies have a gangland shoot out and that they shoot out jellybeans. That would totally rock! Then Donkey from Shrek comes around a corner, sees the carnage, looks at the camera smiling and says "I'm making waffles!"

  • June 4, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Achmel.... Achwel....

    by DocPazuzu

    ...ASSHOLE!

  • June 4, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    M-O-M, you tasteless imbecile.

    by DocPazuzu

    Midnight Run is fan-fucking-tastic. Anyone who doesn't love Midnight Run has no soul, heart or brain.

  • June 4, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    well ratner is the best director for this

    by BurgerKing

    Just spit it out in time and on budget. Exactly what the studio needs from this movie.

  • June 4, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    You have a face like a pig

    by therealkumar

    Has anyone seen the edited for TV version of Beverly Hills Cop 1? Instead of saying "Foul mouth?... Fuck you man," Axel tells Taggert "You have a face like a pig!"

  • June 4, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Beverly Hills Cop 3 already felt PG13

    by dauphin534

    I had to look it up to find out it was rated R, but from what I remember that film was a huge departure from the grittiness and realism of the action in the first two films.

  • June 4, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    The real problem is...

    by Gozu

    There really doesn't seem to be any interest at all in developing new properties, just remakes and sequels. At some point, people will lose interest. Probably around the time "Beverly Hills Cop 4" comes out.

  • June 4, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    wtf are you talking about?

    by ikkyu

    "...Ratner does not implicitly say BEVERLY HILLS COP 4 will carry a "safer" rating from its predecessors - although he certainly seems to imply as much."<p>what?

  • June 4, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    MIDNIGHT RUN beats BEVERLY HILLS COP

    by caruso_stalker217

    But GIGLI beats them all.

  • June 4, 2008, 6:13 p.m. CST

    about these remakes.

    by ikkyu

    if they must be doing all these remakes, then why not remake TPM, AOTC and ROTS.<p>those are some films that *need* the full-scale re-imagining treatment if ever there were any. and keep Lucas away from 'em - hire McG or someone.

  • June 4, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Let's remake The Phantom Menace. SHia LABEEF is Darth Maul.

    by Fenrisulfr

  • June 4, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    No, no...

    by caruso_stalker217

    The Beef would play Obi-Wan. Beef with an English accent. Hells yeah.

  • June 4, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    HE JUST WANTS IT TO MAKE MORE MONEY

    by i kick tits

  • June 4, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    WHEN IS BREWSTER'S MILLIONS COMING BACK!!!

    by unoball

    why not, we seem to have reached a new low point in cinematic development all the indy houses are downsizing or going away and this shit resurfaces?

  • June 4, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Vern.

    by pr1c3y

    How is Martin Brest a hack? Midnight Run makes up for a million Giglis and Joe Blacks

  • June 4, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST

    kids today

    by El Borak

    swear right out of the womb and watch inter-porn from their cribs at night. they watch real life war footage and email each other pictures of their private parts. i don't think we need to keep making these pg-13 shitfests because people are worried about mcclane saying "mother fucker". seriously. get some balls hollywood. buy some w/ all that money you soak up.

  • June 4, 2008, 7:46 p.m. CST

    oh and RAMBO FUCKING RULED!!!

    by El Borak

    we need rambo to take apart ratner's coke mansion with that jeep machine gun, film it and put it in the theaters.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Fuck you, Foley!

    by hktelemacher

    This is nothing without Gil Hill. And hey - is there any way to tie this in with Mock Trial with J. Reinhold?

  • June 4, 2008, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Ratner is obviously not the man for the job...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    And seriously, how else can you interpret what Ratner said? Why is AICN rushing to defend Ratner? I really don't understand this. It sounds like we're going to get a whole lot of near-cussing and then later, they'll release an uncut/unrated DVD with two or three "fucks" and that's about it. I didn't go see Die Hard 4 and now I sure as hell won't go see Beverly Hills Cop 4. Thanks for saving me $7.00 admission, Ratner. Guess I can apply it toward gas or something.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    If I wanted a PG BHC type movie...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...I'd just as soon watch Fletch again. Actually, I may just do that.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I always use Beverly Hills Cop as an example..

    by TragicComic

    of how awesome and shocking the violence in movies was in the 1980's and argue that we are worse off for the lack of it in todays movies. I also use Kindergarten Cop. Now we get torture porn and watered down action movies. Seriously, don't these movie studios get the fact that we want to watch our hero's seriously fuck people up after they've been beat down? (ala John McLane and "Yippie Ki Aya Mother....") That said, the new Rambo movie delivered that in spades.

  • June 4, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    eddie murphy n bhc

    by huggerorange

    I saw the actor's studio Eddie murphy episode and he said the last Beverly hills cop sucked so bad he wouldnt want to go the pg13 route again . Instead he exlpained hed do it if they went back and made it edgier like the first two...and I agree, its already been attempted and it didnt work so why make it even softer?? Seems hollywood is slow to learn.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I'll use some "R" rated words

    by Powerring

    *IF* they make a PG rated BHC, they might as well make a "G" rated robocop remake, a "PG" rated animal house remake, a "PG" rated "48 hours" and continue on until all R rated staple movies/characters are fucked up beyond all repair. Kinder, gentler my ass. It's a sad state of affairs when you "pussy down" a franchise. DIE HARD 5: The pillow fight. GMAFB already.

  • June 4, 2008, 9:20 p.m. CST

    by huggerorange

    just let me know when the hulk reviews come in from tonights screenings

  • June 4, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    BAH!

    by BringingSexyBack

    MEH!

  • June 4, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    "unintintionally funny Pitt death scene"

    by jim

    Thanks for clearing that up, octagonproplex. I wondered how you could think the death scene was unintentional, as it set up the premise for the whole movie.<p>Not sure if you are serious about Gigli. I wouldn't go so far as to call it great but I do agree it is unfairly treated. I honestly believe it should be studied in film courses because, while it is often a terrible movie with a razor thin plot that has more holes than my underwear, you can at times see a glimmer of what could have been a good movie. Not sure if it was the result of too many rewrites (to make it a rom-com) or not enough. But I think it would make an interesting case study of how a movie can go wrong. And I have to say you have to applaud any movie that, marketed as a romantic comedy, has a gory scene of brutal violence (How much screen time was there of the brains on the fishtank?)

  • June 4, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Coming To America

    by pumaman

    Will always be Eddies finest comedy movie . BHC4 is just another pointless sequel and will bomb. Just let your soul glow.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST

    "Apocalypse Now" to be remade as PG comedy for kids

    by kabong

    and their grandparents. <p> Wait for it.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    RATNER TO DIRECT CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST, RATED G

    by BringingSexyBack

    for Goofy!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    well so much for that idea.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    And a nice fuck you to Eddie Murphy for not doing hardcore comedy anymore. He's the suck now.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST

    RATNER TO DIRECT TORTURE PORN, RATED G

    by BringingSexyBack

    It's tickle torture!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    RATNER IS LIKE DRAGO, OR UWE BOLL--

    by heyscot

    EVERYTHING HE HITS, HE DESTROYS.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT TRADING PLACES 2: THERE AND BACK AGAIN

    by BringingSexyBack

    It was the Dukes! It was the Dukes!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    EDDIE MURPHY AS BARACK OBAMA!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    The security of Israel is sac ... sacro ... sacrosa ... this is sum bullshit right here man! What's this fucking word? Ain't no brutha gonna say shit like that! Yo get me anotha writer, dis bitch is crazy!

  • June 4, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    This shows our difference in generations...

    by kuldan

    This shows our difference in generations and what we allow ourselves and the people we raise to be susceptible to. Ratner made the most hypocritical statement by saying he wanted to "cater to the kids today that were my age when I saw the first 'Beverly Hills Cop.'" He saw it, apparently, at the age of 10-12 with all the R-rated glory, so why change that experience for the 10-12 year old crowd today? Today's generation of kids are going to grow up being the biggest raging pussies on the planet. They are going to hear the word "FUCK" and piss there pants, crouch into the fetal position, and have a shit-filled pants-inducing seizure.

  • June 4, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST

    RATNER TO DIRECT AN X-MEN MOVIE!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Doesn't seem real, does it?

  • June 5, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Why not put a fucking chimp in it and make it PG?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Cause that seems to be the latest trend...

  • June 5, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Ratner set to direct Audition 2

    by Dr Gregory House

    This time, the chick just takes some Prozac and writes some lame poetry.

  • June 5, 2008, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Uwe Boll... that makes me morbidly curious.

    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    What if Uwe Boll directed X-Men 4? Just hand him some comics, give him $200 million and let him loose.<p>I think I'd actually pay to see that. It'd be more like a Wrestlemania event than a movie but hey, that makes money.

  • June 5, 2008, 1:45 a.m. CST

    ISNT THERE A PART IN BEVHILLSCOP EDDIE ACTS LIKE BIG HOMO

    by Groothewarrior

    TO GET PAST SECURITY HE PLAYS GAY CLAIMS HE GAVE A DUDE HERPES AND HAS URGENT TEST RESULTS...oh sure lets push this on the kiddies...please

  • June 5, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    yeah Axel Foley from the slums of Detroit the new young icon

    by Groothewarrior

    i bet any hood from urban Detroit would mug Murphy so fast in real life he would be begging for his sunset boulevard transvestite hitchhiker

  • June 5, 2008, 2:01 a.m. CST

    who seen "Best Defence" the ultimate money grab he made

    by Groothewarrior

    he rode around in a phony tank for a couple hours and adlibs baloney, he was in most of the trailer was onscreen very little, Murphy will do anything for a buck

  • June 5, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    FUCK PG-13 RIGHT IN THE EAR

    by Steve Rogers

    Ruined Die Hard 4. FUCK IT AND THE BASTARDS WHO PERPETRATE IT.

  • June 5, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Damn Market Analysis

    by a rolling stone

    If Axel Foley isn't Raw, Axel Foley isn't Axel Foley.

  • June 5, 2008, 4:03 a.m. CST

    From the top

    by Lost Jarv

    Memories- You cunt. Midnight Run IS NOT OVERRATED. <P>Gotham Night- That was me, and I would explain why if you weren't such an obvious waste of the time your "father" spent wanking into a plastic cup. <P>Gigli was fucking horrible. "Gobble Gobble". Have you all forgotten?

  • June 5, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST

    BHC4 nuked the fridge ...

    by bender7

    ... when Foley says "Are you *gunshot* kidding me?"

  • June 5, 2008, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Indy 4

    by pearlanddean

    How come they need a frickin jungle-combine-harvester machine to gouge out a road but then after it's put out of action, they can continue to have a chase through the trees? Why bother cutting a road in the first place? Oh and did anyone really think the Tarzan/monkeys bit was a good idea? Seriously? A snake as a rope? What? If this is the best that they can come up with after several years of script tweaking, they shouldn't have bothered. I'll bet the Mummy 3 will be better than this.

  • June 5, 2008, 6:06 a.m. CST

    PG Axel F

    by pearlanddean

    Fun you, you cake sucker.

  • June 5, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Just give me a cop movie

    by Abominable Snowcone

    with Axel telling Bronson Pinchot to "Get da fuck outta here," some bananas in tailpipes, and some shooting and I'm there. None of this PG shit. BHC is NOT a kid's series. Go rewatch the first one, Ratner. See Mikey get shot in the head? See Axel take a bullet in the arm with blood smeared on the wall? See Victor Maiteland get blown away? This isn't for 10 and 12 year olds. I don't know where the hell he got that idea.

  • June 5, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Is new material THAT hard to create?

    by fireclown

    This Midgard serpent of remakes/reboots can only go on so long. We used to make real movies. There are a million scripts out there. Let's make a few. Buy some scripts, use second tier stars (a whole lotta talent out there for cheap) keep costs down, make some money.

  • June 5, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Fireclown

    by Abominable Snowcone

    You're right. There are GREAT actors in the world, but when you come down to it, it's still just PLAYING PRETEND, and I'm sure many others of us with "real" working jobs could do a fair job of it, given the chance (or inclination to move to LA and slum it out for a couple years). Acting: still beats working for a living.

  • June 5, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Ratner Remakes The Muppets Take Manhattan

    by I AM ROCKO

    KERMIT AND FOZZY DIE IN FIRST 30 MINS. ANIMAL (a bit watered down though) MONOPOLISES FILM AS CHARACTER TESTED WELL WITH AUIDENCES IN PREVIOUS FILM. RATNER SAVES FRANCHAISE FUCKED UP BY SINGER. SINGER CHOOSES TO MAKE LONG, MELANCHOLIC, SLOW, DULL, OVERLY DOOMED ROMANTIC SEQUEL TO ELMO SAVES CHRSITMAS. SPACEY HAMS. BOSWORTH SHITE WITH NO TITS. ELMO DEPRESSED.

  • June 5, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Lt Todd isdead

    by cheifchirpa3000

  • June 5, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST

    make another golden child

    by cheifchirpa3000

    no, not you ratner, the other guy, any guy (other than mcg, not that eiter of them are really guys, they're robots, and not cool robots, like c3-p0's but worse) it could be like indy 4, it's 19 yars later, and eddies characters too old for this shit but he returns anyways for another aventure!

  • June 5, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Chiefchirpa

    by Abominable Snowcone

    That's right, Todd is dead. He died from having a piece of his ass bit out of him. Just LOOK at THAT--you can SEE he got a BIG BITE TAKEN OUT OF HIS ASS!!<p> Seriously, I think he died in BHCIII. I can't remember though, because that one wasn't worth remembering.

  • June 5, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    cause that's why people hated the third one, setting it

    by CrichtonAstronut

    in fluffy bunny land made it too hard edged.

  • June 5, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Who the hell watches Beverly Hills Cop and thinks

    by CrichtonAstronut

    wow this would make a great kids movie.

  • June 5, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Crichton

    by Abominable Snowcone

    anyone who says that, I would respond with an Axel Foley, "Git da fuck out of here!" So to Ratner, I think I speak for many when I say, git da fuck out of here.

  • June 5, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Over the top violence, crude humor, and a scene at

    by CrichtonAstronut

    a strip club. Or the Hefner Mansio, and Axcel proving he wasn't always a cop. That's what the Beverkly Hills Cop franchise is all about. PG Beverly Hills is like a Christmas without Santa Clause

  • June 5, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy was like 24 yrs old

    by Abominable Snowcone

    when he made BHC. Yet he conveyed the wit and police skills of someone several years older. And his performance was great. I can't think of any 24 year olds who can carry a movie alone today, with that kind of personality. No one, where you say "I don't care what it's about--it's the new Eddie Murphy movie. I'm seeing it"

  • June 5, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Dirty Harry. The therapist years.

    by CrichtonAstronut

    Now he just wants to give criminals a hug.

  • June 5, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy was a genius in the eighties

    by CrichtonAstronut

    loved BHC I and II and the 48 Hours movies. Trading Places is one of my all time favorite comedies. That's Why Eddie Murphy should stay away from this movie. He was also awesome in Dream Girls.

  • June 5, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Why does every big actor in the states

    by Series7

    Get pushed into doing kids movies? Even Sly got sucked into doing Spy Kids 3-D? I wonder how long it will take for Jason Staham or Clive Owen to jump on the kiddie boat.

  • June 5, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Series 7

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It happened to the Rock and Vin Diesel. ALthough I must admit I took my kid to "Game Plan" and we both liked it a lot. Even Arnie had Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All the Way (but he's not American)

  • June 5, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Fourth Installments

    by Abominable Snowcone

    While we're on the subject, who is working on Mad Max 4? Will they simply title it "Max," or perhaps "Rockatansky?"

  • June 5, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    It is a smart move Abom

    by toadkillerdog

    Films aimed at kids rake in huge amounts of dollars, and generally cost less to make. It also 'softens' the stars image, and generates younger fans.

  • June 5, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    True, toadkillerdog, but if Murphy's 80s movies

    by jim

    had been made to cater to the PG crowd, would they have been as popular back then as well as 20 years later? And would Murphy still be working, or would he have Judge Reinhold's career?

  • June 5, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Big Jim

    by toadkillerdog

    I have not read this entire TB, so forgive me if I am restating an earlier point, but Murphy's career took a monstrous nose dive, until he turned completely to more family orineted fare i.e The Nutty Professor. Also, let me clarify, I was not saying that Murphy going the PG route with this movie is a good choice, I was responding to Abom's response to Series 7 - I really should have made that clear! <p> I think it is unwise to turn Cop 4 into Diehard 4. <p> But hard R movies do not generate the box office that PG movies do, and maybe he wants to protect his image investment as well. Although, I think his movie out this summer is R rated. It looks like a monstrous flop though.

  • June 5, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Gigli was enjoyable.

    by pr1c3y

    Larry Gigli: If by some fuckin' miracle long shot you haven't heard of my reputation let me tell you who the fuck I am! I am the fuckin' Sultan of Slick, Sadie! I am the rule of fuckin' cool! You wanna be a gangster? You wanna be a thug? You sit at my fuckin' feet and gather the pearls that emanate forth from me! Because I'm the fuckin' original, straight-first-foremost, pimp-mack, fuckin hustler, original gangster's gangster! Thats funny and if you don't agree go take a sugar coated flying fuck off a cliff.

  • June 5, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    KIT RAMSEY AS AXEL FOLEY

    by stuatfunnyordie

    and have Steve Martin as Bowfinger direct it...and have Eddie play Jiff as well...now THAT's a movie!

  • June 5, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Brett Ratner is the what Jonah Hill will become!

    by Violator90

    What the fuck has Brett Ratner done that was good? No really? Can some one tell me, I haven't got a clue and still this scrotum of an elephant is like Bay!!! How can that be?!?!

  • June 5, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    It's not a big deal...

    by brodiebruce_405

    I mean, the only good 'Cop movie was the first one. I cannot stand 2 or 3, and this is just another in a long line of failed attempts (Nutty Professor 2, Norbit, Vampire in Brooklyn) to resurrect Murphey's career. Arguably, so was Coming to America (though I love that movie). How can Murphey be so funny still in the Shrek role, but not live action?

  • June 5, 2008, 6:32 p.m. CST

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  • June 5, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Billy

    by sylvester stabone

  • June 5, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Billy! we have to solve the alphabet robberies!

    by sylvester stabone

  • June 5, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    bev hills cop 3 was like die hard on an amusement park

    by sylvester stabone

    actually it was like live free or die hard in an amusement park, meaning both movies kinda suck. though i have more respect for bhc3. what wass john landis thinking? or was it the george lucas curse?

  • June 6, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    is progenitors a word?

    by hoisin

    and will Axel fuck a tranny hooker?