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There's A Huge GRAYSKULL: THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE Script Review Online!! Will Justin Marks & Joel Silver Make It Work??
Merrick here...
El Mayimbe over at Latino Review has a massive look at Justin Marks' script for GRAYSKULL: THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE currently being developed by Joel Silver.
He loves it...the really loves it...and their review has made me so horny to read the script that I'm about to cream my keyboard.
It's an extensive & agreeably detailed write-up, including quotes from the mighty document itself. Like this prologue...
At the beginning of time, the blacksmith Eternus forged the Sword Of Light, a blade so beautiful that its spark created all life as we know it. After the blacksmith saw what perfection he’d built, he tried in vain to duplicate his mold. Eventually he fell into madness. Angered by his failure, he forged one last blade before he died. The mirror opposite of its original. The Sword of Darkness.
Both blades, being born of magic gave amazing powers to anyone who held them. And so they were sought after.
Over thousands of years, the swords faced each other army times…
…until one battle changed it all.
...offers the article, whose entirety you can read HERE. There's a ton of info in the article about the script (keeping in mind this is one of many possible screenplay iterations) - I highly recommend you check this out.
This isn't the first time MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE was adapted for the big screen - in 1987 director Gary Goddard brought us a live-action feature starring Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella, Robert Duncan McNeill (who went on to play Tom Paris on STAR TREK: VOYAGER), Chelsea Field (who was up for the role of Kathryn Janeway in STAR TREK: VOYAGER), Courteney Cox, and Meg Foster. Billy Barty and James Tolkan were also in it, along with the under appreciated Jon Cypher. The film, reviled in Talkbacks to this day, looked like this:
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He-Man Rules!!!!!
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my kids deserve better than watered-down versions of the stuff their dad saw as a kid, and which wasn't always good in the first place. Aren't there ANY original ideas in tinseltown? YAWN!
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For its budget, "Master of the Universe" isn't bad (I'm a little surprised Gary Goddard didn't get more work off of this film; he certainly made the most of a pitiful budget). Certainly, it's aged better than the cartoon.
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It could be sweet.
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Just kidding of course :-D
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all of them will sport black leather. You'll see
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More nerdy films. Have we seriously become the target audience for everything?
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... apparently the producers wanted to do a New Gods movie, couldn't get the rights and used the MOTU property instead to make a NG type film. He-Man is Orion, Skeletor is Darkseid, and there are other analogues for Highfather, Kalibak etc. Also, there are Boom Tubes. I guess a new MOTU could be good. But I'd love to see a proper New Gids movie too (either stand alone or incorporated into a Superman/JLA film).
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Yeah! Maybe they'll take it back to its essence, like in the little books you used to get with the first wave of the original toys, where He-man was just a wandering Conan type character, before Filmation and DC got hold of it and gave him the Prince Adam alter-ego and shit.
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...he raised his sword and said..."by the power of Grayskull...I HAVE THE POWER!!" I always wondered...what are the odds?...was it random? What if he had raised his sword and said "...goddam I could go for a bowl of PacMan cereal right now!"? Would the world be without a He Man? What if he had raised his sword and said "...by the power of Grayskull...I feel well rested and FULL OF ENERGY TODAY!!!"? What then? What if he had said the proper Grayskull thing but didn't raise his sword?....I don't know man. The whole thing just seems unlikely...
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June 3, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST
Flames on Optimus = Termie-ater in John Connor
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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fact
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I HAVE THE POWERRRRRRR... <P> Seriously htough, his was ok for a kids 80's cartoon, but a movie will probably be shocking, I wonder if the message, like "always tell an adult before you go somewhere" will be in the movie? <P> Ah a simpler time... I remember my younger cousin used to say "By the power of playschool". She thought thats what they were saying, he he. <P> Oh and you actually spell Grey...well Grey by the way
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YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! <br><br> Lujho, the New Gods thing has been somewhat dismissed. Check the link following. <br><br> Here is the relevant link to semi-support claims: http://tinyurl.com/43kc8l
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... what's up with all the dyslexia? <br><br> At least this might help to support that whole two-part sword thing that He-Man and Skeletor wield that all of the supporting material (comics, cartoons, etc.) seems to ignore.
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...much of anything and then experimented with different dramatic phrases...who knows what amazing powers I might have but will never discover for lack of the correct raised object and shouted sentence combo...
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After the alter ego of Battle cat. <P> However when I pinted a dinner knife at him and said the wrods he did not turn into battle cat, instead he rubbed himself off my leg and went for a sleep...Go figure. <P> My current cats are called Chewy and Gizmo, by the way...because you all wanted to know that
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Because I just wanted to say that again, LOL. <P> How did Skeletor move about and talk and stuff, when he clearly has no muscels or moving body flesh in anyway, would ne not simply fall apart. <P> Oh and why was castle Greyskull more evil and dark looking than Skeletors Snake Mountain. Bizzarre. <P> and with characters such as Evilynne, (what a name)how can you go wrong
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. . . Just about every man and man-beast had the exact same size and muscle-tone as He-Man, but he was like 100 times stronger.
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I remember a few years back there were rumours John Woo was gonna direct one.
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I love that movie! It's not great, but it's still a fun flick. And Frank Langella was legendary as Skeletor. The director, Gary Goddard, went on to create one of my favorite TV shows (and toy lines) from the '80s: "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future."
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That absolutely rules. I've been dreaming of a He-Man sequel ever since the day I left my VHS copy of the original MOTU movie running after the ending and discovered the "hidden footage" of Skeletor claiming he'd be back. You can imagine my disappointment when I learned Skeletor was almost certainly not coming back. But now this project has resurfaced and it keeps popping up every few months. I really hope this actually gets made.
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Frank langella was fantastic as Skeletor in the 1987 film. seriously. everything else about the thing was awful but Langella lifted the whole thing, in my opinion. He got rid of the campyness that could have been, intensified everything and made skeletor an actually threatening, power hungry maniac, suitably overblown for the kind of material he was dealing with. C'mon you know Im right,some of those monologues he spouted were great-that bit where he turns into a God? "Of what consequence are you now? this planet, these people-they are NOTHING TO MEE!!The universe is POWER!! Pure, unstoppable POWER!! AND I AM THAT FORCE I AM THAT POWER!!" Thats good stuff, seeing as were dealing with He man here, not Beckett or David Mamet or something. While I think this script sounds alright (I dont get why we need an other origin story for another character-seriously guys you can just throw us in the middle of the story and we'll get by! Thats how we used to do it!)they should seriously consider getting Langella to voice the (presumably) CGI Skeletor...or at least get whoever is to look at the guy for notes. Anyone with me?
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You know, all the criticism that Harry gets about his fanboy enthusiasm getting the better of him when he reviews certain things could equally be thrown at the guys over at Latino Reviews. I find their stuff to be a tirture to read.
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but "torture to read."
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What Dipshit steroid junkie wrestler will be attached to the role first??? I say The slightly wooden actor who plays Anders- lon on Galactica has the basephysique (Raid the cast of 300's medicine cabinet and 20 lbs later he'd be perfect) and I suppose enough acting ability to pull it off. Plus he is young enough and suffiently Aryan looking enough
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...present certain hygiene problems. Fur is definitely going to retain moisture and bacteria, and if it's 'dry clean only' then no way you're paying for that more than once a month tops. No good can come of that...
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If you give the "At the beginning of time, the blacksmith Eternus..." the kind of reading Harrison Ford gives during the Ark/FBI scene at the beginning of Raiders, it sounds ace. Give it a Cate Blanchett LOTR reading tho, and it's utter gash. Weird!
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...sound so good to me. I like that he's taking the world seriously, but the whole Batman begins element to this, killing Randor, the history of the power swords. I don't know, it sounds too convoluted to me and I really don't like giving Adam the Batman background (and him turning into a 21 year old badass warrior, no, that's not Adam... the whole point is that without the sword of power, he's a geek re: Prince Adam No More). Oddly, it sounds like he just took the old series, the new anime series, Batman Begins, and LOTR and tossed it into a blender and a big weird mess poured out. But who knows, maybe these guys are right and the script is amazing. I'm not going to get my panties into much of a twist over a He-Man movie... hell, I even liked the Dolph one, and that was a horrible film.
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y'know, the whole cgi actor thing-makes sense when you consider they would have to change adam from a 14 to 21 year old and then from guy into he-man...Im almost guaranteeing they'll do a beowulf on it. which isnt necessarily bad-I would like to see that technology used on a good film for once!
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A friend of mine was friends with Frank Langella's son, and claimed that in the Langella household, no one could speak about Masters of the Universe. NO ONE. It simply wasn't household conversation. But I was always a fan of the '87 movie - it was the first PG film I saw as a kid, and despite the cheesiness now it was mindblowing in theaters, basically stealing from all the right movies I already loved and cranking up the volume to disguise the low budget and oddly unfaithful-to-the-show storyline (the fish out of water plot seemed strange to me even at the time, but worked for me). If anyone owns the DVD, and it is worth owning, watch it with the Gary Goddard commentary on, and you'll hear some pretty amusing anecdotes, not the least of which was his involvement in an early 80's CONAN stage show at Universal Studios (anyone see that?).
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Probably the funniest talkback I've ever read. Well done.
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Yes, I'm with you, and you know what? Langella played Skeletor EXACTLY the way Dr. Doom should have been played in FF.
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...Mullets of The Universe sucked farts from dead asses.
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seriously... He-Man. Totally gay. Gives straight boys hard ons at age 6 when they're playing around with ripped muscular half-naked macho hombre figures dressed in leather straps as if at a bondage club in Chelsea. Wake up people! =0)
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....easily produced enough organic matter to meet everyone's nutritional needs. They didn't need peasants.
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It's a LION! It's HUGE.
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I'm waiting for my nineties nostalgia already. Where's my Exosquad movie? Hell, that cartoon was better than most of the crap hitting theaters today.
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i also always pictured Prince Adam as a big bumbling dork and then when he becomes He-Man he HULKs up and is a badass! Adam is like a Peter Parker/Bruce Banner combo. And I enjoy the humor of the cartoons. Skeletor calling BeastMan a 'nin-com-poop' and He-Man a 'muscle-bound brain'! Priceless shit. I am optimistic and would love a kickass He-Man movie.
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They made with Dolph Lundgren, I hated the fact that they were on Enternia for about 5 minutes then just happen to find their way to Earth, lame. The only good thing about that movie was Frank Langella as Skeletor. The cartoon Skeletor was wimpy sounding, Langella made him a real bad guy.
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How are they going to get a hip hop reference into this project because we both no it's whirling around in their little hollywood minds as we speak. 50 cent or Dr. Dre for Man At Arms???
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Im not into He-Man at all but i have to say that what i read was cool & has my interest. Its a shame that it'll get raped & become a shitefest of cheese by the time we get to see it. Or am i too cynical?
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Just wondering
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<p>As Darth Scourge stated above, the He-Man "story" that was around BEFORE the awful Filmation cartoon was far superior. The blend of hi-tech futuristic weaponry and ancient sword and sorcery was great and there was no Orko, no Cringer, no Prince Adam. None of that hokey crap.</p> <p>Unfortunately, most people's first awareness of Master of the Universe is that "By the Power of Greyskull!" shit.</p>
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valid. Anyone who claims to be a prince but has no subjects and lives on an uninhabited planet is kind of a douche. Why just a 'prince'?...why not 'Emperor for Life'?...who's going to argue?...
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Im sold...Please let this happen!
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Frank Langella was an awesom Skeletor, and the Bill Conti score is much better than it had any right being...And you gotta love those mongoloid expressions Dolph Lundgren makes during the action scenes.
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Clearly were the model of some of the early video heroines. Of cartoons of that age, though, I always liked "Pirates of Dark Water." There's probably a spec script somewhere right now.
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But that script synopsis sounds pretty damn good. I can't stand this "80's nostalgia get the geekboys money" thing Hollywood's doing but this script sounds pretty interesting. And I never even liked He-Man as a kid. I thought it was incredibly gay but I love the idea of seeing a technologically advanced civilization that still uses magic. The visual possibilities are endless and you got to admit, it's something we haven't seen before. I love the style of the storytelling in that synopsis. It sounds like an old style 80's fantasy film told in slight pulp comic style but without the 80's cheese. I'm thinking Milius' Conan meets Star Wars. If it doesn't get raped by endless rewrites, I may see this.
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There were plenty of people living on Eternia. In the Filmation cartoon, Prince Adam/He-Man's mother, Queen Marlena, was actually a space-pilot from Earth who had crash-landed on Eternia some years before the present time of the series. She fell in love with the ruler of Eternia, King Randor, and decided to stay on Eternia instead of returning to Earth, effectively making He-Man the son of an Earth woman and an Eternian man. Yes, I'm a fucking nerd.
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Was at a TV show recording recently (QI) and the warm up guy (Rufus Hound, tosser) said that his wife was the coolest person on the planet because, when they got married (in Vegas), she had paid the person conducting the ceremony to replace the phrase "By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you man and wife" with "By the power of Greyskull, I now pronounce you man and wife"
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The movie "Cyborg" with Jean Claude Van Damme was really the sequel to MOTU...but they decided to change things around and make it an unrelated movie.
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In the spirit of the LOTR films, this could be bad ass. Sprinkle some Conan on top and I'm so there.
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make it happen. And nude sunbathing and cunninglingus. Make it happen.
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June 3, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST
"If you've been touched that way, don't be ashamed. Tell someone
by Grayskull
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what if the person you trusted was the one who touched you? Damn.
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And will Cortney Cox reprise her break through role?! I NEED TO KNOW!!!
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There is no chance that this will work as live action. Not a chance.
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"The script has ZERO CAMP or CHEESINESS. NO FUCKING ORKO EITHER! The writer takes the MOTU mythology very seriously. Whatever made the cartoon corny is not in here at all. In fact, there is not a single beat of comedic relief in the script." Wow, a movie that's had all the fun sucked out of it! Awesome! Sounds like an angry miserable nerd's wet dream.
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June 3, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST
Does anyone have info on the He-man playing footbal sequel?!? :)
by typingaway
THat sounds awful!! :) However this script review doesn't. I hope they make a really cool fantasy film out of this world. I found out that Skeletor has been around, but not doing so well : www.myspace.com/unemployedskeletor
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There is a difference between taking a source material serious and TOO serious and from what I've read, this script seem to get one step too far. (Of course I may be wrong and the review just made it look like that.)<br> I don't want this to be a pseudo-smart borefest like Batman Begins or Battlestar Galactica. He-Man was (despite it's Barbarian-ish theme) always bright and colorful fantasy. Of course I don't mean that I want this to be like Batman Forever or even *gasp* Batman & Robin, but something like...let's say X-Men 2. A movie that has lots of dark moments and treats its silly concept serious, but also is some damn good entertaining.<br> Oh, and I hope they keep Zach Snyder far away from this.
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I get a weird kind of nostalgia thinking back on he man and thundercats...
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so much gayness written over He-Man!
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Yep, that was a pretty horrendous time for them. Other than Lifeforce and Runaway Train, there's nothing in their output that I'd rewatch.
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In the 80s, shows like He-Man were referred to as "program-length commercials" - the show existed to sell the toy, nothing more.<p>I guess He-Man could pull a Pirates - make a good movie out of a product. But admit it: search your feelings, you know it's going to be craptacular.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ceERPc3pyw
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Holy mackerel, that's craptacular. I actually did see the movie when it came out. I'm embarrassed to say.
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YakMalla - I feel you, but PIRATES did bring a great first movie out of a shit rollercoaster ride. Granted, the seques sucked donkey balls, but the first still stands. This script sounds amazing - taking this franchise seriously is the only way to make a viable movie that would launch a franchise. Cheese = box office death.<P> But stop comparing everything to BATMAN BEGINS, dudes. It really wasn't all that...
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Enter the Ninja takes the cake. There is none better.
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You dumb fuck.
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...what's next? The sons of Sam Jones and Jocko in The Highwayman: The Next Generation? ( I should win some kind of award for the most completely obscure 1980's references contained within a single sentence.)
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...as the voice of the magical, floating-pink-nightgown, no-face guy wearing Carmen San Diego's hat (whatever his name was). Joe Pesci or Gilbert Gottfried, whichever one jumps at the offer first.
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Dude... Revenge of the Ninja is the SHIT!
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Paul Chadwick, of "Concrete" fame, worked as an art director on the Masters of the Universe movie. He even used his experiences in a storyline in Concrete wherein Concrete gets a job ding FX for a fly-by-night, low budget studio doing a sword-and-sorcery film.
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remember.. gray is the color... grey is someones last name usually. idiots
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Has one of the best speaking voices on stage and screen. He was always the best thing about so many films he was in. Especially so for MOTU. Sword and sorcery films can really benefit from not having a campy approach, but He Man can never credibly be the basis for a serious sword and sorcery story. Shows what a professional Langella is that he gave that film 110 %.
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..and AGAIN with the stupid colon-infested titles! AAARRRGH!
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grey is the English spelling. As in REAL English. Not your adopted yankee shit.
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make a badass hema movie and i won't have t kill your children. also make a dungeonsand dragons film based on the cartoon s ell as galaxy rangers and ulysses 31.
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And should be treated as such.
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I just came across Red Sonja (2010) at IMDB... and Megan Fox is apparently being considered for the role. She's hot and all, but goddamn she's like the female Shia that Hollywood wants to shove down our throats.
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...wasn't all that bad when you were seven. But, even then, when my brother and I watched it in the theater, the first thing we asked each other was, "When the hell were there lazer guns in the cartoon?" Any-who, the musical score was cool.
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June 3, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST
Check this out -- kinda He Man related, though not really
by Grand Moff Toht
http://www.themovieblog.com/page/6 scroll down until you hit "Conan Update from Sweden". Thoughts???
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Apologies for direspecting the POTC ride. I've never actually been to the US and am basing my opinion on what I've seen on TV over here of the ride, which didn't look earth-shattering, but obviously has a very affectionate place in many of my Stateside friends' hearts. So please:<P> Forgive the Spud. His English heart is very, very sorry.
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...I feel the need to point out that no one has mentioned the ultimate 80s action film: the one and only Gymkata.
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Have you got your period? Jeez, dude, you tetchy tonight.<P> Take two tissues, this Megan Fox link ( http://tinyurl.com/52slxc ) and go work out your tension. You'll feel better. Hey, pretend you're in a truck stop ;D
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as far as films go. resevoir dogs, usual suspects, seven, fight club, dances with wolves,saving private ryan, jfk, magnolia, pulp fiction. c'mon dude.
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They can shove Megan fox down my throat all day long. All the fucking way down, all the livelong day.<P> She's not just "hot". This is a whole new level of hot that science can't quite handle yet. I'd lick DGDB's balls for a piece of that... and Smashing will tell you, I don't swing that way!<P> That's how desperate I am for that woman. I'd lick a hormonal talkbacker's sweaty, pasty balls for a piece of that. I loathe myself.
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NINJA III: THE DOMINATION.<P> Lucinda dickey as a nightclub breakdancer who, at night, is possessed by the spirit of dead ninja Sho Kosugi, who wreaks revenge on those who killed him: the California PD, who apparently have to deal with clans of evil ninja all the time. Fuck HIGHLANDER - REMAKE THIS SHIT YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!!!
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My point was that Pirates, even though it was based on a ride at Disneyland, turned out to be a pretty good movie. The MOTU cartoon, used mainly to sell toys, MIGHT be turned into a good film like Pirates, but I doubt it. I see it drowning in its own homoerotic cheese.
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You flat out cannot trust them. Every 80's property script that comes down the pipe is praised beyond any sort of fairness. Remember that old GI Joe draft that didn't have Cobra Commander in it? BRILLIANT! The new GI Joe draft in which Cobra Commander is Dukes best friend and the Baroness's brother? BRILLIANT. FUck these guys.
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You're seriously comparing dated fluff like Pulp Fiction against classics like The Octagon that film school students will be studying 50 years from now?
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Is it wrong I'm actually starting to look for him in every talkback?
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Read a phonebook. Look under GRAY. You'll find more than a few. Now go back to school.
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The 80's started corporate fluff. That's where your culturally bankrupt hollywood was born. And so what if it's sci-fi, a comedy or a drama. The last time I checked, a good movie is a good movie. I'll give you Pulp Fiction but what about the other films I listed? Fight Club, Dances with Wolves? Oh, they're not going to be studying those movies 50 years from now. The Octagon? Really? lol.I also find it funny that a guy defending 80's movies is telling me to go back in a time machine. Fucking hilarious. But i don't need to anyway. I was there for both decades. So sci-fi: The Matrix. Comedy: There's Something About Mary. Okay then.
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I hope they make it work!
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I think the revamped cartoon that CNW canceled was pretty good at that. Except the whole acid in Skeletors face thing. He doesn't need an origin. His appearance should tell you everything you need to know. Also, Adam was pretty gay in the 80's show. I wonder if they'll go with the younger version of him and an older He-man. It would actually be difficult to tell they are one in the same that way.
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There's also Terminator 2, Seven, Goodfellas, Schindlers List, American Beauty, Fargo, Forrest Gump, LA Confidential, The Shawshank Redemption, Silence of the Lambs, Swingers, Dazed and Confused, Austin Powers, Boogie Nights, Clerks, Millers' Crossing, American History X, Tombstone, Army of Darkness
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to do to get some original ideas again? Are there no more new Beatles, Transformers, Metallicas, Jimi Hendrixes, etc etc. Stop rehashing old and good ideas and come up with good new ideas. It would really suck to be a youngster in these days. No fond memories to look back on !
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Sleeptones, 'grey' is the UK spelling, but is acceptable (although less common) in the US as well. (Well now. I sure feel like a wordgeek.)
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Back to the Future is waay better than Transformers but so is a steaming pile of dogshit.
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"Holleey Shit! I have 'THE POWER', you Cock-Juggling Thunder-Cunt!"
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Trainspotting, The Big Lebowski, The Hudsuker Proxy, The Game, Go, Election, the X-files movie, Star Trek: First Contact
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One of the reasons why movies in the 70s were cool was that none of the studios were afraid of downer endings. Think about it -- One of the hallmark features of 1970s films was the downbeat ending. In fact, it's hard to think of a film from the seventies that ends with the protagonists' success. Ratso Rizzo dies, Apollo beats Rocky, McMurphy gets murdered, Butch and Sundance jump off the cliff, the killer gets away in Chinatown ... heck, even the Bad News Bears lose. (I know there are exceptions. Brody gets the shark, Ripley gets the alien, and Newman and Redford win in THE STING. But still.) In my view, two of the surest ways to begin a new "golden age" of film is to (a) bring back original ideas and (b) bring back the downer ending.
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June 3, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST
So because they're sequels they don't count on their own merit?
by seniorspeilbergio
Army of Darkness was the best one of the trilogy anyway. And yes American Beauty, Fargo and Forrest Gump are better. Aliens and Die HArd are good but Robocop and Scarface? Please. Have you watched them lately? And how do those movies fare against Fight Club, Shawshank Redemption or The Matrix. Can't ignore those forever.
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I know it's not for everybody, but for me it seemed like an honest to goodness 80s style movie trilogy. It's amazing how fast Jack Sparrow became an iconic character. The other thing I liked... the movies were not lazily made. A lot of heart was put into the effects, sets (REAL sets!), characters, and dialogue. And I certainly think it finally broke the "make two sequels at the same time" curse that Back to the Future started and Matrix continued. The sequels had guts and rather than simply doing the same thing over, the decided to flesh out the characters. And the ending was not at all typical. But that's just my opinion. Sorry to keep disagreeing with you on movies, Danny! I'm sure we'll agree on something someday... hopefully Dark Knight...
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Didn't mean to jump on you. I live like 20 minutes from Disneyland so it's a big part of our culture out here. We all grew up on that ride.
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Heathers, Repo Man, Rumble Fish, Brazil, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, BeetleJuice, The Unbelievable Truth, Raising Arizona, Blood Simple, Paris Texas, Lenongrad Cowboys Go America, Do The Right Thing, She's Gotta Have It, Down By Law, Stranger Than Paradise, Mystery Train, Blue Velvet, Rivers Edge, Manhunter...
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because it had a story, characters and a heart.Transformers is a cynical, calculated money grab with explosions and special effects instead of plot or characters. That IS the problem with movies today. BTTF had those things too but it supported a great story and characters you cared about. The 90's are not today but 8 years ago. After the brief reneissance of the 90's, movies started there downward spiral again in 2000. It's gotten worse ever since. But I would agree that compared to the 80's and 90's, the 70's are still untouchable. Yes, the down/ambiguous ending was great. "That's Chinatown, kid." Fucking priceless.
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I love how after the end credits in the cannon movie, Skeletor's head pops out of the soup and he says "I'll be back!" Fucking liar!
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Lord, some people are freaking idiots. I bet you trolls think it should have been set in 1984 and every tiny detail should have followed the toyline. Give me a freaking break. Was it perfect? No, but it was an awesome popcorn flick that put butts in the seats. Flames on Optimus? Who gives a crap? My only complaint was it did focus on the humans a bit too much. I hope the sequel has more of what a movie about giant transforming robots at war should be. Giant transforming robots at war. Anyway I think done right this could be great. Leave the 80s cartoon in the 80s, stay true to the source material but make it relevant for today's audience. Take comics for example the Batman of 1960 would not work today, just as the He-Man of 1982 would not work today. Don't screw up the source material i.e. make Teela and Evilynn lesbian lovers, although on some level that would be awesome, but make it relevant a concept most of you have no clue about.
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I'm looking forward to a new "Masters of the Universe" movie, and this script sounds very promising. I just hope they change a few details. First of all, Keldor's skin starts to burn off starting with his hands? Ummm.....Skeletor's face was the only part of him that was boney. Also, he's going to be wearing the "chrome mask of a skull"? I don't like this either. What's up with killing King Randor? You can't kill off Prince Adam's father.....and where's Queen Marlena? LOVE the little touches from the comics, though...(ie. Keldor turning out to be Randor's brother). I'm anxious to see how the final product turns out. We shall see.....hopefully.
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listing all those movies to support my opinion. lol. Yes I think Fargo is a better movie than Aliens or Die Hard. Foreest Gump I don't know if I would say is better but definately just as good. And I would rather sit through the Vietnam sequence in Forrest Gump any day before sitting through Scarface again. Besides the violence. it's an over bloated snoozefest.
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I think the Sparrow on the ride should be temporary. It's cool for now, but I think it should go back to normal in a couple of years. My problem with it is Sparrow looks TOO realistic, and everybody else on the ride is kinda cartoony, so it just doesn't gel. Oh well, I'm glad Haunted Mansion bombed, cuz if not we'd have Eddie Murphy on it. "HEHHH HEEHHHH HHEEEEHHHHH". That would be pretty scary, though.
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I mean, it started with Raiders of the Lost Ark and ended with Batman. Best decade for action movies, hands down.
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June 3, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST
"My only complaint was it did focus on the humans a bit too much
by MattmanReturns
I'm sure you'll love Transformers 2 then. There's like fifty transformers in it. And probably more explosions, so your a.d.d is placated.
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But then I guess that's about the only way you could sell a true MOTU movie now to both studio pinheads and mass movie going audiences. However, only two swords? Still not leaving room for She-Ra? That's like making the Six Million Dollar Man and leaving out the Bionic Woman or Hercules without Xena...oh wait...
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That script was amazing I want this movie pronto!! BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!!!!
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As with He-Man, Transformers was a movie based on a cartoon based on a toy line. Considering the source material, I guess we should be grateful that it wasn't any worse than it was. And, despite my misgivings, maybe He-Man will be OK (MORE than ok if we go w/ Geekhaterssuck's excellent suggestion that Teela & Evilynn be carpet munchers).<p>Back to the Future, I believe, was an original screenplay. Transformers was an OK popcorn flick, but it'd be tough to argue that it was a better plot-and-character-driven film than BTTF.
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When I said The Octagon was a classic compared to Pulp Fiction, I was holding down the ALT-IRONIC button on my keyboard.
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... from what I've read in that review, that script sounds like garbage. He sees his father get killed by skeletor and escapes miraculously as a kid? Then later we find out skeletor is his uncle? ORLY? I don't expect some great plot from a he-man movie, but this sounds like the stupidest, most cliche ridden thing ever. Only interesting thing about it is the universe, with the sword and science setting. But this nano-tech mumbo jumbo really seems to be on a good way to screw that up also. I really got excited when I read the title to this "report", cause I loved the cartoon as a kid, but after reading that script review I realized 2 things: 1) the guy that reviewed the script knows nothing of good movies, and 2) most people on this site who got excited about the script are either stoned, or did not read that review. Find yourself there, if you cant, then you go together with the latino review guy in no.1.
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Bay couldn't make a decent Transformers film if he tried, and he's going to try twice! It would have been vaguely OK if they'd kept the designs recognisable and got a decent script, it could have been OK. But changing pretty much everything just made it a generic robot film with lots of brain dead badly cut together tripe. Why make a Transformers film if all you're going to keep is the names of the Transformers? Just make a generic robot movie (or a Gobots movie) if you don't like the original TF designs and story!<br><br> As for a new He-Man film, I always quite liked the '80s live action film, so I'd be keen to see another take on it, hopefully closer in look and story to the cartoon. Question is, will Skeletor be as gay as he is in the original cartoon?
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The script description has got me jazzed! MotU was the ultimate toy in the 80's bar-none (sorry Transformers, GIJoes, Thundercats, Voltron)! Look, you got these Swartzeneggar (in his prime) juiced up galactic gladiator hereos fighting equally powerful Hideous space monsters in the ultimate fushion of pure science fantasy geek radness!!... Come on Hollywood this is Star Wars meets Conan, how can this NOT work? Oh yea, Dolph Lungren... If Hollywood could resolve to find someone with an inherent respect and nostalgia for this property (some kid from the 80's), it'll be an ATM machine for any company willing to take it on. It'll be impossible not to make like a zillion dollars with this property. That is, if it's done the the right amount of love and attention that it deserves. By the Power of Graykull! I have the Power!!!
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were 80 to 82. It felt like the 70's still and it falls into the period of genre filmmaking I call "Magic Hour" (which makes sense if you know the filmmaking term). It starts in '78 (the summer after Star Wars) and ends in '82 (the year before Jedi with the Ewoks is released). This period was great because Hollywood started to bankroll High Concept films before they understood fully how to exploit them. All they knew was that anything with fantastical elements made money. Therefore they started to green light all kinds of crazy shit. Think about it: Conan, Quest for Fire, Close Encounters, The Thing, Excaliber, Outland, Alien, Tron, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., Poltergiest, and the granddaddy of them all, Blade Runner. These weren't commercial blockbusters so much as they were art films disguised as genre films. But then by 1983, Hollywood figured out how to test market and sell theses kinds of movies and started changing the scripts to suit there own bottom line needs. As far as I can see, you'll never see sci-fi/fantasy done quite like that ever again. Maybe every once in a great while you'll get a Matrix or Lord of the Rings but sadly, Magic Hour is over.
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I thought the reviewer said the script has ZERO CAMP or CHEESINESS. I mean, you might as well throw Snout Spout in there as well.
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80s: Lighter, more original stuff, more cheese, more models<p>90s: Darker, more remakes, more deconstructionist navel-gazing, more CGI
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you must have a mac.
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than the nineties but yeah darker, technically more remakes, deconstructionist? eah, just like the 70's. More CGI? Obviously, considering when CGI came about. If it was invented in 1968, it would be all over 70's and 80's movies too. And the 90's still had the best use of CGI in Jurassic Park. They'll never top the realism of that T-Rex attack but that's because they had to match it to the life size puppets that were actually there with the actors.
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ginrei724 I totally agree.
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Back the Future 4, with Doc Brown and Marty McFly (and everything else) made completely out of CGI. It's what Zemeckis has been building up to with Polar Express and Beowulf. And, as it turns out, this time they end up back in 1485! Plagues and beheadings! Hilarity ensues.
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How could it be? They don't look anything alike.
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Monchichi The Movie followed by Punky Brewster Extreme starring Megan Fox.
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There could be a terminator cross over. I joke, but now that I think about it, that would actually be cool. Terminator vs. He-Man: Insert Unnecessary Desriptor Here
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YOU'VE GOT THE POWER...of GREYSKULL! Yeah!
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June 3, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST
Langella's Skeletor = David Ogden Stires' J'onn J'onzz
by Cletus Van Damme
Discuss
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army is many misspelled
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I'm just sayin'.
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The cast is comprised entirely of American Gladiators. I nominate Titan for He-Man and Venom for She-Ra. Wolf can play the kitty.
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Don't forget Pacino biting it in Serpico.
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I just want to see some of the evil henchmen done right on the big screen. Beast Man, Mer Man, Trap Jaw, Tri Clops and the yellow chick.
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Theyu put Depp in the POTC? Ah man. That's just plain fuckin' WRONG.<P> A ride inspiring a movie that then remakes the ride...<P> **spud's head explodes in a very mashed-potato fashion**
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95% where like Masters of the universe very cheesey, Yea every so often you would get a Back to the future, Ghostbusters or Terminator but for the most part they were all cheesey if you think about.
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This is waaaaaayyyyyyyy back in the thread, but the dork in me needs to point out that Butch and Sundance survived their cliff dive. They probably died in the Bolivian shootout, but the freeze frame at the end makes it sort of debatable. Totally agree on the whole downer ending thing though. "That's what life is, a series of down endings"
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Not sure the Mel Gibson thing would work. I mean, where in the Eternia mythos can he blame the Jews for killing Randor and creating Skeletor?<P> Not seeing it, people. I'd love to see Del Toro do it, but he's kind of tied to THE HOBBIT right now...
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This is the crucial thing that makes the non-classics of the 80s still awesome: they were CHEESY! Great cheese goes a long way. I mean, what the 90s and 00s substitute for cheese is post-modern irony, which has never worked in any other movie than SCREAM ever. No, not even the sequels.<P> We need a proper infusion of non-apologetic, honest-to-God decent cheese to make the movies of the 00s pop like the 80s did. But as movies go, that was one kick-ass decade. The 90s weren't even close.
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June 3, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST
God, are you guys talking about the 90's movies or grunge music?
by seniorspeilbergio
The 90's weren't all post modern irony. Shawshank Redemption? Forrest Gump? Legends of the Fall? A River Runs Through It? And cheese doesn't make a good movie. It just means the film is so outdated and a slave to the trends of the time, it's funny or in retrospect. The classics of the 90's weren't accidents. The filmmakers were trying to make good movies and they did. But I guess the nostalgia factor is in play as usual. It's 20 years after the fact right? So i guess we have to wait another 10 years for the 90's to get there proper due.
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I DRINK HER MILKSHAKE! I DRINK IT UP! DRAAAAAAAAAINAGE! DRAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIINAAAAAAAAGGE!!!
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I drink your milkshake too. DGDB just won it with that whole KURT 80s VS KURT 90s - one BIG TROULBE IN LITTLE CHINA > LEGENDS + RIVER RUNS, and 1000 GUMPS do not equal one THING or ESCAPE FROM NY.<P> And don't get me started on Bruce Campbell. EVIL DEAD II > THE ENTIRE OUTPUT OF THE 1990s. FACT!
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jeebus, he-man the movie was the first movie i ever rented out on videotape. if they're going to rape an element of our childhood. a) thundercats b) dungeons and dragons
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You think you can settle this with an actor who did better work in the 80's because he wasn't over the hill yet? Give me a break. We're talking about the entire output of the two decades here folks. Kurt Russel didn't make many movies in the 90's period. And that was because he got tired of the grind. Go ahead. Ignore all those movies I listed. Pretend like I didn't write them and settle your lame argument with the output of two over the hill actors who just don't give a shit anymore. So i guess that means the 90's are definately better than the 00's because Brad Pitt worked more. Priceless! Really!
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Frightening Frank! And Weirdo Wolfieeeeeee!<P> GROOVY GHOULIES. Genius. Get Jack Black acting and Ben Stiller directing, we have comedy gold right there. THE HAUNTED MANSION for 2009!<P> Mr_X: They did DUNGEONS & DRAGONS already. You had Riff Raff as the King of Thieves, Jeremy Irons as the most disinterested villain EVER, Thora Birch as Padme Amidala, and some dude I don't remember as the hero. Marlon wayans played the sidekick. I SWEAR this is not a fucking joke...
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I drank your milkshake the moment you mentioned FORREST GUMP. The most over-rated movie of the 1990s: FACT.<P> Besides, some of us aren't taking this entirely seriously :p
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Fact. And get your own milkshake you bastard in a basket.
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but with a slightly more commercial bent. I just like how experimental the films of '78-'82 felt.
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<p>Seriously, man. The cartoon camera was always right up in Teela's ass. Not that I blamed them. She had the best ass in all of cartoondom. It still floors me to think of it.</p> <p>Then again, there isn't a chance in the world that I'll watch this. The movie industry should file for creative bankruptcy already. What's next, the Great Spacecoaster and New Zoo Review, coming to a theater near you?</p> <p>As for the best, recent decade for movies, each decade was distinct. 70s had good stories. 80s was the decade of the blockbuster (pre CGI, when stunts still wowed us and the scores were incredible). 90s was great time for experimental movies. And this decade has sucked ass for movies, music and books. The only thing we got going now is much better TV. God damn, do movies suck these days! Why is nobody competing with Hollywood while they're down?</p>
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EPIC FAIL! Cutting Orko out of an MOTU picture is like eating a pizza with everything on it but cheese. Sure, it'll be good, but it'll also be lacking something.
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Didn't it win Best Picture? I mean, since we're talking "facts" here. How can a Best Picture be under-rated?
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Pulp Fiction was.
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... I've never seen an episode of the series. Never played with the toys. And I've got GRAYSKULL sitting here on the desktop, ready to be read. I'll be looking at it simply as a story, and I'm curious. Any questions before I dig in?
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... know this: they are aiming very high with directors. If they get the guy they want, it's a big, big, big, big name.
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No one trusts the best picture. It burns your credibility. And if we're talking good Kurt Russel movies what about Breakdown? You guys have got to give me Breakdown. He rocked in that. Russel versus J.D. Walsh. Gold.
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You nailed it on every point, although there's some good sci-fi and fantasy novels out right now but few and far between.
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I want(NEED)to know everything that involves Mekanek from this script.
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My only questions are, 1. Does it offer up any fairly fresh imagry as far as the high tech/fantasy world angle goes? And 2. If it wasn't a He Man film is it good enough to stand on it's own merits as a film with interesting characters and an involving, somewhat fresh story? That's all I got. Anyone else?
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Let us know the characters that they are going to use. Even the obscure ones. That'd be great. Who do they want to direct?
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Your logic just made my brain bleed. Thanks.
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June 3, 2008, 6:41 p.m. CST
The only wrestler that should be cast is Mickie James as Teela :
by Dolmes
It would satisfy my own, personal geeky fetish, so there!
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Dark Jedi might be on to something. Maybe you can tell us about the vehicles they plan to use, too.
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Could this movie really be as epic as they described it? And if so, would it work as live action or would they have to Beowolf it, as suggested earlier?
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Especially this. None of these remakes are a bad thing. Most of them are of long dead series that wouldn't have been brought back to life otherwise, at least a new generation can experience them. If you think these movies will ruin your childhood or something, then don't see it! Simple as that. Even if the movie's bad though, I personally want to see the characters brought to life on screen with today's technology. If it's bad, oh well, I still have the memories of the good show. If it's good, it's awesome to relive something that impacted me in childhood.
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I knew I spelled that wrong.
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Does this have the potential to turn into Transformers?
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The Cartoon Network version of He-Man from a few years back was actually pretty good. Kept the original 'toon's premise but matured it a bit. I was always surprised that wasn't more popular.
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I wonder why people seem to think He-Man is a good idea for a live action movie? I was a kid who wanted he-man toys instead of star wars toys as a kid (cut me some slack, I was five) and I have no desire to see this is a movie. The character design for skeletor could be kind of bad ass, but come on, "By the Power of Greyskull, I have the power" isn't exactly going to win you any golden statues. I hope the script is good, but I think the problem with adapting He-man is there aren't really any interesting character ideas there like you get with a good comic book origin story, only a series of blank slate characters. The script will have to completely make up anything interesting, and at that point why not just make something new.
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Is it a secret?
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is the name "He-Man". Seriously, that name is ridiculous.
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Think about it. Chicago. A beautiful Mind. Titanic. The English Patient mixed in with Return of the King, American Beauty and Shindlers List. With such a mixed bag how do you really know if any given movie that wins is really all that. It's inconsistent to say the least which means, worthy or not, people are going to look at with a weary eye. It's usually known as hype backlash. There. Does that help?
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Whenever I hear about these remakes, I wonder, why not make it a cartoon? It's ok to remake something for kids, right? Just seems to me many folks complain that American animation is all for kids, as opposed to Japanese. Why not try some action/adventure toons? The other option, which I think could wokr for comics, too, is the Sin City, 300 styles.It's live action but still allows for some over the top stuff.
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Nudity?
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Terrence Malick?
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Wouldn't you still want to see some of those characters on the big screen? They've got tons of them to choose from. It's at least possible that they could be done justice. I'm convinced that there are at least a few people in Hollywood that aren't completely insane yet.
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Yes. Skeletor and Battle Cat.
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Yeah, you're right. They would have to do something about that.
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...either goes to<p>a) The PC flavor of the week (e.g.: Dances with Wolves), or<p>b) The director who got screwed because of a) (e.g.: Dances w/ Wolves screwing Goofellas = Best Pic to The Departed)
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Now I'd pay to see that.
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Yeah exactly. Just like the Return of the King Best Picture was actually for Fellowship of the Ring.
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Are there actually people out there who think that the world of He-Man and Skeletor is not campy and ridiculous by definition? People so deep in denial that they cannot differentiate between which things they loved as kids were really good and which merely have nostalgia value? People who think a hard PG-13 bordering on R "He-Man" movie has the potential to be cool, instead of just inane, homeoerotic AND bloody? "Master of the Universe" was dorky when it was created, and it always will be. No level of violence or intesity can make this property cool. Hollywood seems now to be only interested in making movies Gen X and Gen Y people who never actually grew up.
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He-Man's boots, speedo and wristbands should be black molded urethane. His bandoleer thing should be black rubber with a tiny titanium X-shape right in the center. And don't forget the black sunglasses. Also his head should be shaved clean and his face should look like The Rock™.
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Even though I never liked "He-Man", like I never much cared for "Transformers", I'll prbably end up seeing the movie. And I ended up enjoying "Transformers".
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He was clearly a simple Jewish boy destined for greatness...just like his friend, Peter Spiderman.
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Thank you. Cheese with a hard R and a $200 million budget and Scorcese directing and Sean Penn as Prince Adam is still cheese.
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it was just a good movie. Just because it's about American Indians doesn't make it PC but yeah, your assesment is pretty accurate. You want to talk about a movie that didin't deserve it, what about A Beautiful Mind? What the hell was that? And yeah, the Departed wasn't that fucking good. Also, I thought LA Confidential was a lot better than Titanic. And I would take There Will Be Blood over No Country For Old Men as well. I drink your milkshake indeed.
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...so why would I pay to see a "grown up" Masters of the Universe movie?<p>Scratch that. I would pay good $$ to see a hard R Care Bears.
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...but are you suggesting that it was better than Goodfellas?
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Indy 4 owns.
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Back in 2001, I was prepping a spec idea to relaunch the series and put together the proposal, all ready to show Mattel folks at Comic Con. My Answer to the silly name idea was that they were Pit Fighters (Gladiators) and those silly names were their stage names.<p> There would have been a couple of fights to set things up, then a quest to find The Castle, with the young man who has been fighting under the mythical name He-Man discovering he is the lost son of the king and queen, and the prophecied warrior to find the Castle...<p> Pretty basic stuff--but I wanted to do what Justin Marks is doing...letting the idea grow up. Of course, when I get over to the Mattel area of the Comic Con, they had a huge tarp and the relaunch of the toys ready to go...talk about bad timing...
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wouldn't the Care Bears stop caring? "They're called the Care Bears but they just don't give a fuck anymore. Rated R." Okay, i'd see that.
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Too bad he couldn't act worth, otherwise he'd be cleaning up today. We would have had our Thor.
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No, I can't claim that. That's just crazy.
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Susan Sarandon's booked for quite a while.
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Anyone remeber them running a contest where the winners got to be in the MOTU movie - and all the characters would be played by children? Or are the evil overlords at my office pumping hullicegenic chemicals through the AC? <p> I swear that was the plan, and they actually started filming at a place called Craters of the Moon in Idaho (near where I live), but it was like 110 degrees outside, which gets amplified by the fact that Craters of the Moon is all black, lava rock and the kids were like constantly passing out and they had to scrap it, too bad they wasted money on that crapola 1st. <p> Fond memories of MOTU, though. Of course I never watched the cartoon and didn't have any of the toys, so it might as well have been letter of the law canon as far as I was concerned. I thought Beastman was the coolest thing in the history of cool back in the day. <p> Not sure I would pay for this today, though.
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since the 80's gave us a Twilight Zone movie, how about an Outer Limits movie? And not like that crappy relaunch series but like the original show.
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Mori - I'm a big fan of MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, and I do have a big question for you about the script. One of my favorite elements of the original first MotU materials was that - before the animated series - Eternia was clearly shown to be a world that had once been technologically advanced but had descended into chaos thanks to Skeletor et al. I wonder if the new script shows any signs of the post-Apocalypse tone that the original toys and materials showed. That, and please tell me Teela's in it and kicks ass.
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Script thief Bagginses, we hates it.
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A can of red hair dye, and you're all set.
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Seriously, He-Man is hardcore ultra gay. Butch, arguably, but gay. Greased down speedos gladiator movie for kids 300 gay.
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Just like with Transformers but Epic ? Really ? Hmmm... This sounds suspiciously like He-Man meets Conan.<p> <p>I would like to see a very cool Battle Cat though.
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Knowing todays audience they'll be begging for WILL SMITH as He-Man or something. Oh and get ol' Dolph to play Red Skull in the Cap movie.
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the actor that played him in the Cartoon Network version was gay, that is.
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Was that a joke reference to Flash Gordon? Because there are a lot of other similarities.
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Moriarty, tell us who the big, big, big, big name is please. Not trying to be a dick, but it's frustrating to get these nuggets dropped and then nothing. Either tell the whole story or don't bring it up.
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I am a...GOD!!! <P> Seriously, Frank Langella was great in that old film, and I still love his make-up. Too bad everything else in the movie was awful. Still, part of me enjoyed it back when I was five.<P> Fan as I am of all the 80's nerdy kid stuff. Do we really need to keep going back to these properties? <P> Any of you guys who lament He-Man's 'original' story from the animation being changed in the old live-action should check out his true roots. The character went through many iterations. If you can find his first comic appearance, its a hoot: http://www.leftybrown.com/supesheman.jpg
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Here we go again. You suckers for nostalgia are foaming at the um...mouths again. They could get Spielberg AND Coppola to direct and it would still be a shit sandwich. I'd rather see a Scrappy Doo and Captain Caveman movie directed by McG. That's how much I loathe the idea of any more digital tape wasted on another warmed-over pile of cat vomit like this. If I'm wrong when this comes out and it's Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Empire Strikes Back rolled into one, I'll eat the damn cat vomit with a Harry piss chaser!
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Orko was the main reason I watched the show. If you can't make a weird-ass floating elf who does magic poorly work for you, you don't deserve to write HE-MAN. (Also, something called HE-MAN should not have a deadly serious, humorless execution. Ugh.)
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Is it set on Earth? Because if it's a reworking of the first movie, fuck it!
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June 4, 2008, 12:58 a.m. CST
A Big Big BIG Name Director!? Holy Fuck It's Jesus!
by georges garvaren
Breaking news again, AICN boys.
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June 4, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST
If it's anything like the NEW MOTU cartoon from a few years ago.
by BendersShinyAss
...then it could well be the greatest film ever!!!!!
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Yup With Nipples!
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Transformers, GI Joe, Masters of the Universe...What a joke.
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I feel better now
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The whole MOTU thing here got me googli´n. http://bp1.blogger.com/_VbOSG4e49Lg/SDxmMd7myfI/AAAAAAAAAYo/qzCv2PpEb9E/s1600-h/Motu_baddie_card_rgb_final_sm.jpg Sorry for the non TinyUrl Url. You know what ? Now..everyone is against the 80s nostalgia..but secretly..im totally cool with it because...lets face it..the generation born from 75 to 85 is a generation that doesnt want to grow up..so...instead of sitting in front of the tv on a saturday morning watching stiff images of he-man with the same scenes over and over...stuff will get weta or dreamworks treatment and we get to see the transformation from Cringer into Battlecat in HD. I mean..why not ?
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it is a vile, poorly acted, overlong, dull, nasty piece of propaganda that if it had been made in the 1930's by Goebbels you would be denouncing. <P>Do not defend it. As to the rest of that list- Dances with Wolves is dull, overlong oscar bait, Austin Powers? get a grip- I could go on with this for a bit but there's not point.
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And they do it right, it could be epic. Nostalgia aside.
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They were both superb decades for movies. Star Wars, Crystal Skull and Death Proof aside, it's Y2K that needs to be fucking curbstomped.
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but the 80's had better genre films. It's a bit of a ridiculous argument as essentially you are arguing different things. <P>I'd take both decades over the shit that this one has turned out though. <P>BTW- The 90's had much, much better music. That's beyond question, and the 80's is the decade that taste forgot. Seriously- watch Pretty Woman or WOrking Girl.
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Getthefuckouttahere. Star Wars? AKA the biggest fucking disappointment of my film watching life?, Death Proof? Awful, awful shite that emasculated OUR Kurt. I don't want to see Snake Plissken/Macready/ Jack Burton get his ass handed to him by 3 Women and then CRY. And Crystal Skull was just "meh". <P>This decade has been dreadful, bar a few highlights and is the one that reanimated Torture Porn, took Gross-out Comedy beyond the Pale, gave us PG13 Action movies (John McClane can't swear. FUCK THAT), remake/ crossovers galore and made FUCKING ALIEN PG13. Bastard.
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You're not a fan of big hair then? The decade that taste forgot indeed. I'd pound Julia Roberts in PRETTY WOMAN until she couldn't stand any more...<P> Was that too much? Oh.<P> STAR WARS?!? YouHateStarWars, are you clinically fucking insane?!? Those movie barely qualified as fucking MOVIES, let alone Star Wars movies, and as classics? FUUUUUCK YOOOOOU!<P> I will NEVER accept those movies as canon. FUCKING NEVER! Midichlorians. Skywhinger. Windu going out, indeed, like a bitch. Fucking CGI saber battles for the greatest Hammer actor who ever lived. Fucking General *hack* Grievous *hack - that's my unique selling point, my HACK cough sampled from The Gizzard himself**. Robots killing clones 'cos Lucas is too fucking pussy to have people killing people!! GAAAHHH!!! Do NOT get me started on those FUCKING PREQUELS! Do NOT!!!<P> And I second Jarv: CRYSTAL SKULL was meh, unforgivably so, and he's also right about DEATH PROOF. Seeing one of the greatest action heroes EVER crying like a bitch? That's not post-modern satire, that's Kurt fucking Russell crying like a bitch for fuck's sake! The only reason that movie wasn't destroyed after I saw it was the fact Vanessa Ferlito is the hottest thing since Megan Fox. Oh, the lapdance sequence...
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I like bits of this screenplay but then other parts really bug me. First the bad parts, the beginning just seems lifted from LOTR it really weakens the premise, they need something more original, also the keldor/skeletor thing has been done Skeletor should be a straight out devil like demon give him a new backstory with absolutely no element of humanistic nature just an unquenchable thirst for power, finally Adam doesn't need to be a brat come warrior, if they really want a fairytale element give him a Captain Marvel like story, Shazaam and he becomes He Man! Without his sword he learns gradually how to become a man using courage and responsibilty, not boot camp military training with Zodac. Now on to what I like, Like the incorporation of King Grayskull and the Legend that he was a "He Man" I think they should make him alomost a demi god like figure, think the whole technology and use of existing characters in the MOTU Universe is great, along with the Sorceress and the hidden and almost mythical shrine that is Castle Grayskull where Adam must go to retrieve the sword which emodies the power of King Grayskull/He Man. Also we need Cringer and battle cat! Cringer should save Adam when he is on the run froma pack of wolves etc. and he just kind of tags along with Adam on his journey, like his faithful friend...This film will make tonnes of money though along with the deluge of merchandising it would make. Also so much room for a trilogy!
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June 4, 2008, 4:50 a.m. CST
The Script Doesn't Work For Me--Not A Good Show To Begin With!!!
by Media Messiah
Thundaar is the show to make into a movie. It's Lord of The Rings meets, The Road Warrior, meets Planet of The Apes, meets Star Wars, I Am Legend, and The Terminator.<BR><BR>The animated series takes place in a post doomsday world where a comet has split the moon in half and transforming the world into a jungle filled no man's land where magic and science have risen as weapons of war for high tech and lord tech war lords. The world is teeming with mutants, more alien than anything else, and humans survivors of the apocalypes, who are often slaves and worshippers of high tech wizards and warlords.<BR><BR>Thundaar, a Conan, The Barbarian like character, along with his female companion, a sorcerous, and a mutant creature similar to Chewie from Star Wars ride across the now alien land of Earth amid city scapes of destroyed civilization, battling the high-tech Warlords, Wizards and mutants that threaten the world.<BR><BR>The show is really take no prisoners kick-ass and is everything that he man could never be as He-Man was made to be nothing but a toy line. Thundaar is really an amazing untouched property, that puts Masters of The Universe aka He-Man to shame!!! Note To Studio Executives: Check it out on You Tube for yourselves!!!
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June 4, 2008, 4:55 a.m. CST
Re: The Script Doesn't Work For Me--Not A Good Show To Begin Wit
by pradeep1980
They should make the following cartoons in no particlar order - Dungeons and Dragons, Mysterious Cities of Gold, Jason and the Wheeled Warriors, Galaxy High, Thundercats, Centurions, Mask to name a few! After all those of us who watched such cartoons are old enough to go with our children/nephews/nieces and reintroduce them to what we used to watch.
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funny, funny shit.
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long time ago...check object of power ...check proleptic battle light vs. dark power at the beginning...check king dies ....check prepubescent boy with a future mission ...check superhero bullshit overcoming of egotism and learning of selflessness ...check for the good of the people ...check check please... the cliches are too many.
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aaaaaaah, Big hair, shoulder pads the smell of Christian Dior Perfume...... <P>Fuck no. I stand by my original statement: The 80's were the decade that taste forgot.
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June 4, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST
"I will NEVER accept those [new star wars] movies as canon"
by youhatestarwars
Well that's too bad, because they are :)
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but they still suck.
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and I think they're some of the best films ever, definitely on par with the originals. Opinions opinions...
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...and he's the Creator.<p>The fact that they're canon doesn't make them any good.<p>There actually were some good ideas in the Prequels - the nature of evil, society losing its way, etc., but the execution was just terrible. Horrible pacing (1/4 of the movies could have run on C-SPAN more comfortably), terrible casting/motivation for both Anakins, a climax in Sith that was old news in 1983 - oy.
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Thundaar wouldn't ever be included in the long list of cartoon remakes to be made, because no one knows what the hell it is. No audience, and they are taking a big risk on something that has no installed consumers already.
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A shaven headed Hillary Clinton. I for one think the casting in this script is dead on.
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"Republican Space Rangers"... Been playing GTAIV, eh?
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it needs to have a lot of blood and violence. A cross between Braveheart and Dune. If we get to see He Man then the actor who plays him will need to be someone who has the physicality and presence that makes him look as if he could rip off the head of a man with his barte hands. Outside of the WWE wrestling roster, there is no one in Hollywierd of carrying it off. Sorry. Has to be said.
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One of the best of the 80's
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Man at Arms does Teela. Somebody commits suicide. To be directed by Todd Solondz.
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I didn't hear any mention of beastman in the script?
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Mary Kate sitting on Ashly Olsen's shoulders, in a fur suit. Voice by James Earl Jones and MoCap of Tony Ja for the fight scenes.
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Bought that outfit, used, in a thrift store while vacationing on sunny Tatooine. The original owner said she didn't have time to have it dry cleaned, and it might smell a little like "dead slug". Whatever that means???
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I never saw any of the MOTU cartoons or movie. But this talkback reminded of my nephew. When he was younger he use to run around with a plastic sword yelling "I have the POWER!." And then he would hit people. Remembering that made me chuckle.
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Are you sure it was football and not baseball? I could really see He-Man playing a pitcher with Orko being his catcher. Thank you folks! I'm here all week!
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lemme guess, whoever pitched this idea was responsible for Beastmaster 2 : Through the Portal of Time right?
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Transformers was an exercise in life as an ADHD kid. <p> But tacky? Did Optimus were white sox with black dress shoes and I just missed it? <p> I'm not being an ass, I just really want to know why that adjective?
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June 4, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST
As bad as the movie was, Frank Langella was magnifiscent in it
by TheSecondQuest
Seriously, he had some of the best villain dialogue ever and put on one hell of a performance to rival Ian as Emperor Palpatine. Skip the rest of the movie and just watch Skeletor's scenes. It'll be a hard performance to top. His monologue as he becomes a god still gives me chills.
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Considering The Hobbit doesn't begin pre-production until next year doesn't that leave del Toro with a window to shoot Greyskull this Fall?? Or what about Jackson himself???
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get a grip. The worst movie ever made? Give me a break. I guess you've never seen Battlefield Earth or Glitter. Yes, there are better movies than Gump, no doubt but it's poorly acted? So, you think Sally Field and Tom Hanks were slumming it? Like the scene where Hanks asks Jenny if his son is smart or dumb? Yeah, real slumming. And yeah Dances is done at a deliberately slow pace as the story demands. It's not an MTV inspired action piece. But please, go on about the rest of my list. Why does Shawshank Redemption, Seven, Fight Club, Magnolia, Boogie Nights, The Hudsucker Proxy or The Big Lebowski suck? I mean I'll give you Austin Powers. It's okay but as for the rest, please explain. I'm all ears.
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Couldn't agree more. Both had great work and it is 2000 and beyond that is truly deplorable. I would write a list of all the bad movies over the last 8 years but I would get carpal tunnel syndrome by the time I'm done. Dicksblood, Yeah I love Breakdown. It's Kurt's most underrated film. I love the scene where he forces J.D. Walsh into the basement at gunpoint and Walsh turns around to threaten him one last time like every villain has to do in every movie like this and Kurt, instead of letting the guy say his piece; just kicks him down the stairs. Sweet.
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I just watched that Milius film last week, and I'll agree with DGDB on that one.
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Point taken. I gotta agree more or less with your points. Although I will say, as vomit inducing as his quick cut tether ball cam is, the man can shoot a hell'uv an explosion. <p> Perhaps that's Michael Bay's hell, just shooting explosion after explosion for all eternity. No breaks in the action for the exposed midriffs.
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Damn Buttons! Anyway. I hope they go for a more violent and mature He-Man. The way Hollywood is shitty on popular cartoons, hell might as well fuck it up right! Have He-Man and Skeletor fight it out Conan the Barbarian style! Blood! Violence! SEX! Damn! That would actually fuck rule! Fuck the kids and family friend attitude! Give me a mature and graphic movie!
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Okay, youhatestarwars, Sith witch and all you other prequel apologists: apparently this means that EWOKS: CARAVAN OF COURAGE and EWOKS: BATTLE FOR ENDOR are also canon. As is the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL.<P> Yeah, defend THAT, you fucks. I'm dying to hear this shit.
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I just could not believe the tension in that movie. It was fucking terrifying. Possibly one of Russell's finest performances; certainly one of the best movies he's ever been in. T3 haters - ease up on Mostow, 'cos he gave us BREAKDOWN, and even having U-571 and T3 on your CV doesn't diminish the greatness of BREAKDOWN. The perfect thriller.
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It sucked. But MASK has merit.
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June 5, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST
Thundarr Although Showing Its Age...Has A Better Premise!!!
by Media Messiah
To: Happy Bunni<BR><BR> I looked at Thundarr on You Tube last night, and its age if showing, complete with the bad score and voice overs, but the concepts, the visuals, and production design as a whole is really somethign special. If executed correctly, it could be made into a hot property. First, I would advise doing a remake of the cartoon, producing 13 new episodes along with an accompanying toy line. If the launch is successful, follow it up with a movie. The show has great merits, again froma visual aspect. Watch the opening credits on You Tube and just imagine what this would look like in with live action photo-realistic special effects?
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"He got my respect after that." *high five*
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Yup. I said it and I think it. It is a morally bankrupt, appalingly acted, trite, pathetic loathsome piece of propaganda. <p>I'll stand by the statement because it is about context. Gitter and Battlefield Earth were undoubted shit, but neither of them is as downright evil or overrated as "the Gump". <p>Ooh- You don't conform, woman, well here's a dose of AIDS for you....
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June 5, 2008, 4:09 a.m. CST
"Yeah, defend THAT, you fucks. I'm dying to hear this shit."
by youhatestarwars
Ultimately it's Lucas who decides what is and isn't SW canon, and I'd imagine that he'd leave pretty much everything that isn't the six Star Wars movies off that list.
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with dyed red hair and ponytail. Matthew McConnaughy(sp?) gets my vote to play He-Man, but who would play a younger Adam. Lundgren would be awesome as King Randor.
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Instead of hurling insults, how about you actually defend your position with examples. In the scene we were talking about we were discussing performance not the scene itself or is that too complex for you? And how about my list? Still waiting to hear why those movies are so bad. Don't dodge, just ante up.
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"A He-Man film without Battle Cat? Sacrilege! If memory serves, a sequel was briefly pondered that would've brought He-Man back to Earth & placed him on a football team. Sublime. Gotta love those Cannon Films." It's a toy advert! If you don't see it as ridiculous from the get-go, you don't DESERVE a good movie.
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Too soon?
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"BY THE POWER OF GAYSKULL!"<p> Odds are someone's done that joke, but not for two years.
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It needs some PSA's!<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvAOQdDWvro
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