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We've got a 1940's Picture of THE MINUTEMEN from WATCHMEN - and tis exclusive for all yous!
Hey folks, Harry here in LaLaLand - I know, I know - 6 days ago I was under the knife - and now here I am after a day of air travel relaxing in my room writing a story about something awesomely geeky cool. If it helps any, I have been having a bitch of shoulder pain - damn co2 bubbles! Anyway - that's not why you're here. Zack Snyder and crew decided that the day after MEMORIAL DAY was probably the most awesome day ever to remember and to expose some of our most awesome heroes of yesteryear. And I say AMEN to that. In the brilliant WATCHMEN story - there's a history - a universe and a specific world that the characters exist in. That's what makes it so great, so thorough and something to pour over. What we have below is a photo that the Minutemen took - Who are the Minutemen? Well in WATCHMEN - it was the first TEAM of superheroes that formed in 1939 and pulled a BEATLES in 1949. In the pic below you'll see the classic SILK SPECTRE and NITE OWL... you'll see CAPTAIN METROPOLIS, MOTHMAN, SILHOUETTE, COMEDIAN, DOLLAR BILL and with the noose... HOODED JUSTICE. I love this photo... just look at those costumes, the hairstyles and makeup. Isn't that classic? It's that attention to detail that I think bodes very well for this project. Cuz with WATCHMEN, the devil's in the details. It is the most richly textured and nuanced comic story ever completed - and this is yet another reason to be excited!

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this looks good. got my fingers crossed that this film won't suck.
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Watchmen is basically the only graphic novel I've ever read, but I loved it to pieces. That said, I thought it would be impossible to make it into a successful movie, and this picture demonstrates why: It's a very serious story that no member of the general public unfamiliar with the source material is going to take seriously...not with those costumes. It may be a good, faithful adaptation, but I can't see how this won't bomb.
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Is a tiny red x.
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why are the 80s costumes so late 90s?
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It looks like a bizarre fan convention. those guys look so hot in tights.I'm so jazzed for this!
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Is all I can see too.
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The comic implies he's a circus strongman. That guy looks anorexic.
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..but Hooded Justice looks brilliant haha.
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fucking cool.
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is sadly what i see also. damm these interwebs
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doesn't look right. <p> also, you can't tell he's gay.
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I just had to use Firefox. Dunno why but IE just doesn't like the picture.
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But I absolutly love it because THOSE ARE THE MINUTEMEN.Im so glad there apart of this movie,I was afraid they werent going to be.KUDOS Zack.
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May 27, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST
Sad losers in silly costumes - Awesome for Minutmen
by David Cloverfield
Snyder is going to pull this off.
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I'm very excited about this movie (the images released thus far are very encouraging) and seeing a pic like this just makes me giddy. I sure hope Snyder pulls this off in a big way.
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At first glance, I thought it was a joke or some kind of lame fan-made thing. But upon closer inspection... yeah, they got it just right. Me likey. Me really, really likey.
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Or at least it LOOKS like he's got some kinda leggings thing going on.
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Which is GOOD. That's how someone would look if they had made their costume themselves after work in the 40's.
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May 27, 2008, 4:21 a.m. CST
Also I Still Have Very Little Confidence In Synder...
by TroutMaskReplicant
...To get anything but the visual elements to work. The more I think about 300, the less I think of him as a story teller.
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I like what they made with Comedian yellow costume, now it less like a pajamas
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well I don't really like the original material,but this is looking good
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May 27, 2008, 4:24 a.m. CST
I think we won't see much more of the minutemen though
by David Cloverfield
No flashbacks, just photographs and black and white films. I hope at least.
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is the extremly Snyder in terms of motion
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is the extremly Snyder aesthetic's in terms of motion
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The film needs the encounter in the trophy room and the ill-fated Crimebusters to make Laurie's arc work.
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He does look pretty gay.
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May 27, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST
Oh dear... ANYONE ELSE GETTING COLD FEET ON THIS..
by greigy just wanted to say
They've done a beautiful job... just a little too faithful... I can't get past an Adam West batman feeling to it.
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Looks like cosplay. Cold feet? I got frostbite so bad I'm about to do a Sir Ranulph on my toes.
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It looks like a bunch of people doing ironic vintage cosplay. Played for laughs, it could work. But I don't remember Moore's Watchmen being about comedy, really.
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On it's own it looks pretty dorky, but in the context of the movie in a 1940's flashback it will look pretty good.
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This is so cool I have used it as my background pic. And the earlier post is correct firefox shows the picture, IE does not. Its good they look silly, because although it is not meant to be a comedy, Moore's book does imply the sheer silliness of the whole idea of grown men and women dressed up in costume to fight crime.
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it looks silly or stupid. That's the point. These are costumes some guys in teh 1940s made from whatever material they could get there hands on. This isn't spiderman style *suddenly i have an amazingly perfect outfit that's appeared out of thin air even though 10 minutes ago i was in a wrestling match wearing a pullover and gloves*.
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They look really goofy, which is fine by me. You're meant to get the feeling that the Minutemen were mostly just chancers who dressed up stupidly and got famous, rather than serious crime-fighters. Hooded Justice should be massive though... maybe they're going to leave his story out, so it's not important for him to be huge any more?
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AllSeeingEye is right. IE just doesn't like the pic.</p><p>That picture looks perfect in context of the story. I have faith that Snyder will make the adaptation faithful to the book. But I just don't know if he can handle simple subtle symbolism. That's what this film needs. He hasn't made a film yet that requires that kind of artistic expression, so hopefully, he's been saving up.
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I still maintain that Watchmen is unfilmable. Unless its a hardcore 18 certificate, bone crunching, blood letting, sex scenes not cut out, minimum of 2 1/2 hours orgy of violence with the ending exactly like the book, then its not going to be very good. I love this picture, I love the set design and the costumes for the modern hero's but all the obvious love for material been lavished on the film by the cast and crew is going to mean fuck all if the script and story isn't done with laser like accuracy. I liked 300 a lot. Snyder did a great job with that but the original story was featherlight and thin compared to Watchmen. I just dont think he's up to it terms of telling the story. I really hope I'm wrong but I I'm more nervous about this film sucking than I've ever been about any other film.
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I wish they'd been this "authentic" when it came to the modern Nite Owl and Ozy costumes. I'm sick to death of "body armor" and sculpted muscles. And, frankly, how are we going to get the beer gut Dan Dreiberg sports when it's encased in body armor?\n What's so great about this shot is just how lame they all look. These were regular people, fighting crime in homemade costumes. They were goofy and silly, but sincere. It makes the appearance of an atomic god like Dr. Manhattan all that much more dramatic.
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And it's an easily fixable problem. So please fix it.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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May 27, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST
I agree with Shermdog! YOU fgix the problem! e can't see it!
by silentbobafett2
Can't imagine logging onto another decent site and them saying: "It's your fault you can't see the picture" lease do something very simply: GET THE PICTURE TO WORK IN IE!!!!
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May 27, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST
the LITTLE RED X is very faithful to the source material!! cant
by Mike_D
its true.
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The people complaining are those types that found a thread where Zack Snyder was mentioned and they feel the absolute need to say something bad about him. <p>So please, keeping going on about how "he doesn't have the vision" when you know that the Minutemen couldn't have been done in a better way.
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well now, while i'm sure this works fine within the context of the movie. it at least shows how cheesy someone like batman would look in a cloth costume in a live action movie. if anything, this shows why "rubber suits" are the way they usually go.
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some people think the graphic novel is a masterpiece, man it wont be pretty to see what the disappointed people have to say when they finally see this. it'll probably make the Indy talkback seem short and very friendly. because when you hold a property in such high esteem, there's no way any movie adaption will live up to anything you hope/imagine. these are the times i'm glad i'm not a comic book geek, i have no connection to the source so i can enjoy or not enjoy the movies based on their own merit. plus if they suck, i dont freak out and take it personally. lol
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is the one of the four horsemen, bring about the end of cinema. Couldn't be less excited about this.
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Go waste your life watching your Transformers DVD for the 100th time.
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And I have to add: There are some real dopey morons replying in this thread.
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I don't think anyone said that. The real test of Snyder's skills won't be vision, but his ability to do the "calamari" ending and not have people who haven't read the book saying WTF?!
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we're not all raving fanboys who are impossible to please. I'm cautiously optimistic, but if the film doesn't live up to the book or is changed so much that it jars for me, then I won't cry over it, the book's still there. By all means you should enjoy the movie (or not) on its own merits, but I still can't recommend highly enough that you find a way to read the original, even if you're not a comic reader otherwise (hell, I wasn't a comic reader until a couple of years ago). It's not the alpha and the omega as some tout it to be, you're correct that that kind of worship and putting it on a pedestal just leads to disappointment, but it *is*breathtakingly good.
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when Firefox is a better program?<p>and yeah, this photo looks good.
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I've an array of vintage photos from my grandfather's era and the "authentic" appearance of this photo is too "digital" to buy outright. I would think that in context this will be easier to take, and as an original Watchmen reader with the books safely tucked away in mylar in a ph-controlled box in the back of a dark and humidity controlled closet I look forward to it.
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Sounds gross
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Without people saying "WTF?!" I had to read it again to get all the hints that were dropped about this thing being created by the author of Tales of the Black Freighter on a remote island.
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& this movie will not disappoint.
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*SPEACHLESS* This Pic makes me wish I liked 300 and Dawn Of The Dead Remake
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Is it the new Stan Lee reality show..? Just kidding X)
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On the other hand, it...looks just like the comic.
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I love it.
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funny stuff, there.
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In the original, this pic only appears in the Under the Hood excerpt. How will it be incorporated in the actual movie? Someone flipping through the book and seeing the pic? Something hanging on the wall of Silk Spectre's retirement home?
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As always she does. Any other big names in this picture?
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They'll start with the taking of the picture, after the flash show this, then after a beat or two, everything goes back to color (unless they do the entire scene in b&w or sepia) and we get Comedian and Silk Spectre's climactic scene as part of the sequence.
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I have no idea what the Minutemen are, but this looks absolutely perfect! Can't wait for 1940's-era dialogue to go with this!
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I have mad respect for Snyder, and Moore, but I'm a little sketched out by that pic.
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... after listening to his commentary on 300. He sounds stupid. So if he can manage to turn Watchmen, the Citizen Kane of comics, into a good movie, I will personally suck him off.
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...to be a teenager in the 1940's... looks like he's pushing 60! WTF? And why does this actor look like frickin' Schneider from One Day At A Time?
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not very good as a movie, but good in that novel 'hey that happened in the comic' way. And they'll please the crowd that hasn't seen it by very rapid cutting, slow-motion, and really gay music.
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Or the Comedian is pretty big... also, Hoode Justice is definetely a white guy.
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It isn't actually a website issue, it's something to do with a compatability issue caused by Windows Media Player 10. I know i've got WMP10 on this PC so i can assume it's that and a very net savvy tech who works here tells me its the same for all users. Apparently, MS are "looking into it". Gotta admit tho, its pure lazyness that stops me from using firefox all the time..if only i could be bothered to make a shortcut to the desktop...
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May 27, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST
Well I suppose there's a good WTF? and a bad one...
by TroutMaskReplicant
The Surfing sequence in Apocalypse now or ending of Doctor Strangelove are probably examples of good WTF?! moments. Bad WTF?! Hmmmmmm Indie climbs into the fridge and...
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How do I fix that?
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Actually, the photo popped up twice during the story, both times with Sally. The first was early on (second issue?) the second was near the very end with Sally at home after the "quick visit." (I'm being vague for the uninitiated.) So there is a reason for the photo to exist, and yes, it does have to do with what happens after the photo was taken. In other news, expect this to own, bitchez!!! :D
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The man has yet to deliver a solid story. I have yet to see anything really interesting come out of this production yet. So I think I will just have to be content with owning the comic.
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Get Firefox. Problem solved.
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Lately, the site has been fucking up pix links, or Harry's not entering them correctly. Right-click on the red X, go to Properties. Copy the URL and paste it into another page/tab on your browser. in the middle of the URL, delete /node from the URL, and the picture will load.
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To be specifically nerdy, Nite Owl I also has a framed print of the pic in his home. As for the "real deal" it looks awesomely pathetic and ironic. While I hate the film version Nite Owl II costume so far, maybe it'll look better onscreen. Medium hopes at the moment.
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Just get FireFox. IE blows.
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If everyone's paying closer attention, HJ is not some shrimp. He's a head taller than everyone else in the pic except Dollar Bill...and since DB is a throwaway character, it makes sense that they'd just throw in whoever answered the casting call that read "6'5'' Super-Hero type needed for upcoming film. Small role but high visibility." Hooded Justice is at least that tall, especially considering Sally Jupiter's probably at least 5'10'' in those heels.
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There isn't anything 1940's about that pic aside from the banner that tells me it is. They really should have looked at old movie serials for inspiration. Still I’ve heard (yes from sources) that everything else in this film is going swimmingly. Most every fan of the books should be satisfied.
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I'm kinda glad the pics Harry posted are down for some of us. I just did the same for the screwed up pictures in Harry's surgery story which were broken as well, and wasn't expecting that second one at all. Heh. <br><br> By the way big guy, I hope you're recovering well.
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I have a feeling The Comedian is going kick some serious arse in this film.
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Jesus-I dont know what the hells wrong with some people. there is seriously just NO pleasing some of you. Had they gone down a different route the shit storm it would have brewed would have been overpowering....I personally love the pic. when you see the Minutemen in the comic, they all kinda look "gay" and stupid, and thats whats acheieved here-they're supposed to kind of look old and silly. The only minor problem is that Hooded Justice should look a little more built and badass, but its no biggy. I have high hopes myself, due to Synders faithfulness-Watchmen has a fixed storyline, the narrative of the comic is its most important aspect, unlike, say Batman where you can do whatever you want and create new origins and new designs every few years, and its good that Snyder is sticking to the established material so much.Otherwise something will most likely get lost in the translation- There are panels in Watchmen that are so perfect and filled with subtext and meaning that to translate it anyother way for THIS PARTICULAR book, a lot would get lost me thinks.
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Rrrrraawrrr. Seriously.
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Everybody looks great. My only slight nitpick would be that the Comedian looks a bit too old (I think he was supposed to be like 16-18 in those days).
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Perfect interpretation of that classic golden age Watchmen line-up. Snyder's the man!
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My God... how incredibly delicious...
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I've liked what I've seen so far, but that photo just looks daft. Hooded Justice looks like some giant retard, his stance is all wrong. Still hopeful that the film will be great though.
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I would've released another pic with this one, with updated, completely redesigned costumes just to fuck with the lot of you. Too faithful? Un-fucking-believable.
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Good old fashioned fabric costumes that make them look like idiots. Awesome. Carla Gugino is UNBELIEVABLE. [Drools]
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My only beef is that the quality of the image does not look vintage. I hate it in movies and tv shows where they show a photograph that is supposed to be a candid photo taken by a regular camera and the photo clearly looks art directed (or like a professionally shot 8 X 10 portrait), or when, as in this case, the image is supposed be from an earlier era, but aside from the b&w/sepia tones, it looks like it was taken with a digital camera. When the photos aren't convincing, it's like bad CGI, and it takes me out of the movie. It's disappointing that Synder didn't distress the image to make it look old, or better yet, use a vintage camera to take the photo. <br><br> My standards are high for this -- I liked the comic very much.
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fingers crossed about this one.
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it DID look silly!
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whats he pointing at?
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which would have made me very sad. But they are! YAY! Those look excellent too. They're supposed to be goofy. You gotta be a little fucked up in the head to want to be a superhero so it only fits that their costumes are a little goofy too.
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he's pointing to an obvious spot on his trousers. Looks like it could be a coffee stain or something? Does he have a sloppy coffee hand in the comic or something?
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or from a Professional Wrestling convention.
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yes, he's the tallest guy there, but he has skinny arms and no pecs. Maybe it's an unflattering costume, but I just thought he should be more imposing. I wonder if they will wuss out on the rape scene. It's pretty essential to the plot.
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you can see the smiley face belt buckle! although i thought in the comic it was a pin. still pretty cool
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The Tick late for the photo shoot?
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I just read that on Rotten Tomatoes. A 3 hour Watchmen movie? Wow. I'm really rooting for Zack on this one.
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What a great, silly, goofy pic! I love it!
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Nuff said. For realz, THIS is what I want from a Watchmen movie. I'm not saying it will CERTAINLY be good...I'm just saying everything so far has inspired confidence...
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absolutely perfect....thx zach
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...does the Comedian change identities? Like, does the guy in that picture die, and then Jeffrey Dean Morgan takes over? Because that looks nothing like him.
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...that picture looks perfect. I have enough faith in Snyder respecting the source material that there is no way this can be bad, because the source is so good. Right? I sure hope so.
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zach stated that this movie would also be a sendup/deconstruction of the movie superhero....which is fine
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Mothman was a flying superhero, right? All of the Minutemen look great, but shouldn't Mothman's wings be bigger and sturdier?
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This could be an interesting movie
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The picture is fine, nothing is ever "perfect". The day I see more positivity than negativity on these boards I will shit myself.
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I already had faith in Snyder et al, but this nails it. Go for it!!
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This is the pic that Silk Spectre kisses at the end. And I do believe they transition from the taking of the picture to the discussion afterward to the Silk Spectre/Comedian climactic scene. So I was positing a memory.
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I hope this is like, a background set photograph, and get's 0.1 seconds of screentime, IF THAT.
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was the bodybuilder. IIRC, there's never proof.
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...are simply magnificent. Wow. Even in a group shot, those girls are eye-catching.
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Did he even have it in Vietnam? Of course, if it's the Have a Nice Day pin, it didn't even exist until the 70s iirc (thanks to Forrest Gump)
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No wait, different movie
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I personally liked 300 quite a bit but those slamming it should blame Miller, not Snyder. Snyder made an incredibly accurate translation of the graphic novel. Also, with all due respect to Romero, I liked Snyder's Dawn remake better than the original.
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I'm at work and I am not allowed to use Firefox at work. All I see is the tiny red x.
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explain to him/her that while firefox cant be controlled, it also doesnt get as many viruses and spyware and is preferrable to use over ie...shit, let me talk to the stupid sob
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I have IE and can see it fine. Try this tip from Raschied:<p> Lately, the site has been fucking up pix links, or Harry's not entering them correctly. Right-click on the red X, go to Properties. Copy the URL and paste it into another page/tab on your browser. in the middle of the URL, delete /node from the URL, and the picture will load.
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Dudes junk is prevalent.
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...I'll just leave that out there for the fans to have fun with
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from the end of the book :'( <p> http://tinyurl.com/5chxac
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That picture is picture perfect! Most of you meaning prob ain't read the book! That is respct to the original. Can be seen as campy... but by knowing the book you know it ain't! Well done snyder! :-)
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Looks like a cut scene from one of Harvey Birdman's daydreams.
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Not to add to the roving cast of serial whiners, but this honestly looks very bad. Very, very bad.
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this is why they don't go for that direction, because it looks silly, but it will work for this movie.
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The "Under the Hood" portion will be on a direct-to-DVD disc that will be released the same day as the movie is released to theaters. The same disc will contain an animated "Tales of the Black Freighter" story. TotBF will not be in the theatrical edition of the film. This is confirmed.
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It would have been nice to see some film grain... anyone know if they are shooting on video or film????
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... shopping at Spencer's Gifts in the mall?
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The Minute Men are SUPPOSED to look stupid and goofy...they WERE a bunch of 1940's cosplayers who became famous for no reason. Imagine if Paris Hilton put on a cape and started beating up homeless people...thats who the Minute Men were. And then it spiraled out of control and you had guys like Doctor Manhatten and Rorschach and The Comedian and everything went to hell. Thats...kinda what the books about folks. The Minute Men have ALWAYS looked like rejects from the Adam West Batman.
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I think I see Carla's nipples.
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Looks a bit like a bunch of frat boys messing around. Except they wouldn't be seen dead in those costumes so forget I said that.
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If there were actual superheroes in costumes like this, this is EXACTLY how it would look. Do you think if Superman was walking down some street, and some dude had no idea who he was, he wouldn't be calling him an idiot based on how he was dressed? Snyder hasn't proved on past work that he can handle this text, but what I've see so far looks good. I don't know if anyone would be able to adequately tell this story in 2 hours and change though.
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Maybe that'll get me more excited about this pic.
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Not a complaint, mind you. I imagine he'd rather have the Comedian as his last major role rather than M. Bison.
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If you're talking about the actual photo in the book, it's B&W but it's also OLD. The comic art gets that across. The flashback scenes are in colour, so if this was a scene, it shouldn't be sepia/B&W. It does bother me a little, keeping the full magic away. </p> Still, I'm nitpicking. But I understand what the others have said about distressed and aged print. It's very good, but I agree with brunomac that they weren't all goofy - they could fight crime. "Except who knew what the fuck was up with Mothman" - priceless!
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I am also nervous. I hope this flick kicks ass like the comic did.
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Let's please stop bitching about the lack of graininess or distortion to the picture. Frankly, the resolution is too high for the photo to have been taken on a period-appropriate camera. It seems to me that Zack Snyder and/or his minions wanted to give us a taste of the period costumes of the Minutemen, and they chose to do this by revealing them through a faux-authentically antique photo. Take it for what is is and not what it's not. The cry may have gone out, if they had chosen to make it appropriately unfocused and aged, that Snyder wasn't showing us enough detail in the design of the heroes. Personally, I'm intrigued with what I see and am anxiously awaiting the first trailer that will give our first real indication of the visual aesthetic and rendering of the graphic novel.
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accepted the nit pick as such in a positive post about a geeky detail in a geek-fuelled exchange of personal opinions. Hardly bitching, just engaging in levels of conversation reserved for such arenas and unacceptable in meeting rooms and such. </P> Also, may I comment on beret-wearing french middle aged Comedian?</p> Easy, now...I know it ain't a beret and i think it's a great pic and I bet you a hundred bucks it's aged/disteressed in the movie if it is B&W. Relax, dude.
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...the oldest and most powerful of the Denarians. Don't worry though, all you gotta do is grab the noose and choke him with it... it's the only thing he's vulnerable to.
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May 27, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST
Well, I get it, most people here will get it, but...
by poeticwarriorIII
general audiences will sit and wonder if they've just wondered into a film about homemade Halloween costumes or a sequel to Trekkies.
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Had the issue of DC WHO'S WHO with the Minutemen entry so I scanned the photo to give a comparison. http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19885_Comic_book_Minutemen_team_photo_122_794lo.JPG
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I've been properly sedated, Abhimanyu. The quality of the photo seemed a silly point of argument to me, so I pointed that out. Frankly, I'm just tired of being fed little bits of scraps from the table. I'd like some really like some appetizer-sized portions of "Watchmen," please, preferably in the form of a trailer.
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Can you blame the Comedian for wanting a piece of that azz? MY GOD!
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was kinda getting pissed I couldn't see it earlier
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Looks cheap. I don't like it.
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like when they have the "real" Harvey Birdman.
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I can't say I remember much of the comic so I'll have to read it again. Another website is reporting that the pirate story is going to be released on dvd five days after the movie is going to be released. So snyder is looking at three dvds, one with just the pirate story with Gerard Butler providing a voice, another of just the film that was released and another, I'm guessing late 2009, with the pirate story, the film (unedited) and the backstory as presented in the comic with those text stories at the end of each issue.
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Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. This makes me feel good inside. Imagine if Snyder doesn't fuck this up? I mean, he probably will, but this picture is decieving the shit out of me. Great, great picture.
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The New York newsstand, the Comedian costume, Night Owl's upgrade looking good, and now this. I love this picture... it really seems to nail the style of the book.<br> <br> If only Moore would stop bitching for a second, he would realize that maybe this is going to be a terrific, faithful adaptation and not another V for Vendetta.
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Knock on wood
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WOW!! I HAD NO IDEA!! WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME?!?!?!? Awesome pic.
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I've heard rumors that there are people on this Earth that believe the original Indiana Jones trilogy is better then the original Star Wars trilogy. I know, I know its hard to believe, but this rumor came from a reputable source. So in the interest of all that is right in the world, I've come up with 3 reasons Star Wars is better Indiana Jones:<br><br> 1. This first and probably easiest case to make is - that the three Star Wars movies are just plain better movies. You have the 1977 episode that changed cinema forever. You have 1980's Empire Strikes Back that on its own, is one of the best movies ever made in the 80's. Then in 1983 Jedi came out and cleaned things up nicely. On the opposite end, 1981's Raiders is one of the best movies made in the 80's as well. I give it up to Raiders, it is a classic. But then in 1984 Temple of Doom came out. ugh, what happened? Horrible leading Lady. Annoying Side-Kick. A bad Indy. No Nazis. The only redeeming value is "Ohhh...Snake Surprise." 5 years later (kinda long for a trilogy to get finished if you ask me) Last Crusade came out. And while it did have Nazi's, it played like an T.V episode - stale, safe, by the numbers, nothing new.<br><br> 2. Star Wars has more cultural significance then Indiana Jones. From "May the Force be with you", to Darth Vader, these movies have become folklore. We reference Star Wars in our everyday lives. How many times to we say "Snakes. I hate Snakes"?<br><br> 3. The Star Wars movies pushed the envelope in special effects. It paved the way for better and more realistic effects. It allowed storytellers to not be limited anymore in what they could show on screen. Now, thanks to Star Wars, anything you can think of can be rendered on film and look cool.<br><br> Case closed. <br><br> -Erik
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I'm going to go ahead and be hopeful about this. I'd like to see a good Watchmen movie and if Snyder can make it, fine. <p> Maybe nitpicky here, but is it just me or does that photo look too glossy to be "real"? It just looks like a sepia filter on top of a desatured digital photo. Seems like they could have done better, but oh well.
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That is all.
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But what does that have to do with the Watchmen or the pic above? just wondering.
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No one cares what you think
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I'm going to fucking hang myself. At first, I was like 'HAHAHAHA! That's great, it looks just like the comics!' And then I thought about normal non-comic dorks like myself seeing the fucking boy-junk on Nite Owl and the cheesy fucking Schneider from One Day At A Time grin on the Comedian...and said...Fuck me running backwards with a chainsaw two inches from the fucking television set.<p>This guy has GOT to have bucket seats, because THAT fucking picture, shown to AICN Talkbackers takes MONUMENTAL FUCKING BALLS.<p>Looks like the comic...and I wish I were that guy who looks like Black Strong Sad with a Noose Around His Neck.<p>"I'm SAD that I'm in this movie...:("<p>Seriously, though, way to make it look JUST like the book. Damn.
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size of Night Owls dick!!
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I mean, the material looks like it wouldn't work for a motion picture, too cloth-like. But it looks exactly like what they would have made their costumes out of in that era. Similar to how Superman as Christopher Reeve was cottony costumed, opposed to todays Supe.
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That will be printed and framed and show up on a wall in one shot. You can't make too much of how the costumes will look 'in action' because there will be very little of these costumes 'in action' in the finished film. Let's be honest, the Minutemen flashbacks in the GN will be the first thing cut from the film.
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You care Bilblow. Search your feelings. you know this to be true.
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I hope to god we gets to see at least some quick flashbacks of these guys in action! Aside from the plot driven Comedian stuff, which HAS to be in there. Reminds me a little of The Tick.
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May 27, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST
Yep, this is what superheroes would look like in the real world.
by alienindisguise
Like complete and total dorks.
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who did The Wire do Alan Moore's Top 10 as an HBO series. I've been reading it and loving it for like the eighth time. "What part of ARF don't you understand?" Also might be funny to see Lost Girls on the DizNee Channel. (Not really).
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some of these guys and gals in action with their tights riding up and picking out wedgies during a battle, I'm not being ironic or cynical, I would Love, Love, LOVE that. Also, like getting punched and the masks fall and cover their eyes while they triy to get up so they get kicked again while their down. A realistic scene that shows what a battle would do to the state of these costumes, and not in some torn latex Spiderman way either.
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God I can't wait for this movie.
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obviously doesnt know shit. HAVE YOU EVEN READ IT??? what the fuck are 1930's costumed adventurers supposed to look like if not this- which is exactly what they look like in the book? there is a reason zack snyder and co. are making a living doing awesome shit like adapting possibly the greatest and most pertinent graphic novel of all time and you (and i'm talking to the morons who think this looks cheesy) are home living in your parents basement with dorito cheese on your dick cuz your too dumbfuck lazy to wash your hands in between jerk off sessions. go accomplish something other than hating on another persons hard work
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I am VERY excited about his flick. So far, everything I've seen/heard has been very encouraging! The attention to detail is great...love the look of everything/one. Overall, I'd say you geeks have nothing to complain about (yet).
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This is the anti-McG-MINATOR because every step has been solid. I am going to try to not get my hopes too high but so far, visually, this has been an excellent adaptation.
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people complaining about dorky costumes...hilarious<P> it's the 40's. it's what they had to work with. have you also never seen a comic book before 1990, kids? this is how costumes LOOKED. and how they WOULD LOOK if someone had made them IN THE 40'S. <P>jeesus sometimes i feel like i'm in a room full of children. <P>anyhow, i'm psyched. this picture just sold another copy of Watchmen as i drive to barnes and noble tonight. <P>the stache and cigar on this early comedian is wrong though. and the dude does look like johnny Knoxville playing Raul Julia playing robin in this pic.
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And that's as it should be. No rubber body armor, either. Kudos for taking a chance on the real look!
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They are goin for the detailed universe in a big way but the chances are this was done as the flashback was shot. And as has been said the Comedian flashback is pretty essential even if it is done on mere seconds.<p> <p>Moore simply thinks Movies are not Comics and he persuaded Terry Gillam NOT to do Watchmen years ago by telling Gilliam there are things in Comics that Movies simply CAN'T do that's all.<p> <p>Doesn't mean there can't be a great Movie from a Comic source but it won't be the Comic. Simple as that. Moore has decided to keep his expertise to the Medium for which he is justly respected and leave Movies to Moviemakers.
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snyder is great because he respects the material. good for him.
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May 27, 2008, 7:01 p.m. CST
and if one more retard mentions "cosplay" i will barf
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
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I'll have me a thick slice of that thank you mockingbuddha. If fucking only...<p> <p>Ahh well... Simons Generation Kill is still looking like it could be some of the best TV this year at least.
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Volume two is simply outstanding and pisses all over every other Martian Invader scenario form a great hieght. Retro yet the complete apex of cool.
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I stand on the fact that these guys look like cheesy bullshit, but even in the comic, when they look back at it it's kind of with that same 'Man, why did we ever do that?' attitude. Fuck, Snyder loves him some comic books. First he brings 300 to the screen and while thin on plot, visually WAS the comic to a T...and now this.<p>I'm on this like Harry on a treadmill, guys. (Way to go Harry, BTW, keep it up!) Rorschach looks fricking amazing, and that's all that matters. And yeah, it's goofy, but if I think of this being in that jittery silent newsreel footage, it will be truly badass and faithful to the comics. Good work, but damn, the Hooded Justice guy looks like he's got a bag on his head.
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Dr. Metropolis' balls off screen. ;)
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he's cheezy enuf to fit in
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Snyder did all right by Dawn of the Dead...Running zombies might not be your thing, but after seeing the opening scene in Night of the Living Dead where Barbara's brother is chasing her car with a drunken staggering gait, I can see why Snyder thought 'shit yeah, freshies can RUN.' And that is terrifying. The two things we got on the Zs is SPEED and BRAINS..Now we just got BRAINS.
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While, in theory, a filming something frame by frame by the source material may seem like a good idea, but it's very possible that it can backfire completley. Isn't that right Gus Van Sant's Psycho?
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...is that speedo painted on? I can clearly see his doodle.
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Cause I want to watch the premiere episode! (looks cheap & kinda silly) I don't know anything about The Watchmen, so it could be a comedy I guess.
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Difference is Psycho is a bonafide classic that is already on film so WHY anyone Greenlit that is still baffling.
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Take a look-- they looks like costumes made for the movie serials---cheap and easy. Captain Krypton
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...this is a pic a bunch of friends and I took fucking around at ComicCon last year.
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This looks fantastic! True to the source! Inspired! Come on guys.
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looks cool though.
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If Rorschach is depicted in all his crazy glory including the unforgettable fridge (see how it's REALLY done Indy !) scenes, the kidnap inestigation and the prison confrontation those alone will fill theatres but you then have Manhattan the Comedian, Nite Owl, Ozzy and "THAT" ending, it will seriously turn heads.<p> <p>Besides, Spiderman 3 packed em in remember. ;)
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the happier you will be. Just do it now. You will not see Watchmen as Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons created them. You will see something similiar that may not completely betray the source material and may be an interesting companion piece to the graphic novel. But the definitive version has been done. There is no way to improve upon perfection. Keep repeating this until this film unspools before your eyes and you'll be much, much happier. Really.
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I think it suits it well.
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May 27, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST
This has the stank of Mystery Men upon it . . .
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
. . . or the live action Tick. Ack! Too! Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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what? Oh I didn't drink any haterade first? Ok, one sec - gluuggg....<br><BR> HA HA WTF IS THAT SHIT IT LOOKS LIKE A COS-PLAY CONTEST AT COMIC-CON ROTFLMAOPBJLSD ALSO GAY
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seriously. get it. do you even understand time periods, comics, history, ironic differences between modern and 'classic' outfits, and the cheesy, happy seeming (yet ironic) innocence of the photo, in context to the book? if you don't 'get' the watchmen, why are you even posting in here?
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Hooded Justice looks... not good. He looks like some dumpy dipshit just standing in the corner without any idea what is going on.
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People still use Internet Explorer? You realize that the thing you're using is called a computer, right? Damn republicans ant their internets. Do you have The Google as your home page and MusicMatch jukebox to play the mp3's you bought off Yahoo Music? How many toolbars are on your screen? Do any of them have the word "Poker" in them? Did you punch any monkeys? Home Computers have been -widely- used for over a decade now. You should know how and what to use by now. Oh wait. You own an iPod? Well, never mind then... You're obviously a tech guru.
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But I keep it updated, and mine runs fine. Bad surfing makes for a bad browser, you install willy and nilly, you get faulty browser.<p>Saying IE is bad is like saying a car is bad because the person driving it has no idea what they're doing.<p>And, my only thing with this movie is that I hope they do Rorschach right, and if they do, I'll REALLY like this movie. I want to see the hacksaw scene and the food line scene...Shit, all of the prison stuff....Man I can't wait to see what they do.
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Ign has a great story. They plan on releasinig an animated version of Tales of the Black Freighter, four days after the Watchmen theatrical release. Also, there's going to be an attached documentary called Under the Hood. Which as any of you who read the comic knows that it based on the autobiography that the original Nite Owl, Hollis Mason, wrote. That's just cool. The movie wouldn't work with all this stuff crammed into it but it's fantastic to know that all this content will be in our hands in less that a year. I hope Snyder pulls this one out, it's going to be tough.
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i love this picture, but Nite Owl looks wrong. look at the comic and he's actually a handsome rugged guy. this Nite Owl looks like a dork. I know, I know, they're all supposed to look like dorks, but the guy doesn't even look like Stephen McHattie, the older Hollis Mason, and Stephen McHattie is perfect for the role. Also, someone earlier said the Minuteman photo was only used once or twice in the book. I haven't read the book in ten years and I can remember that photo being used everywhere in the book. Rorshach rifling through Blake's closet, there's the photo. Hollis Mason's house, there's the photo. Sally Jupiter's place, there's the photo. When Hollis Mason (SPOILER) gets beaten up by the knottops, there it is again. Also, someone said Mothman's wings should have been bigger because he flew. In the book, someone says that it was rumored that Mothman could fly, but he mostly ran around shooting crooks with a gun. Oh, yeah, and Hooded Justice, yeah, I would have preferred a massive bodybuilder type like the comic, but if you look at circus strongmen of the day, they all had pretty fat guts like this Hooded Justice. and he does come off creepy, like a retarded rapist kind of way, so it could work that way. still, all and all, this picture looks fucking great and I can't wait for this movie!
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oh, yeah, another thing about Nite Owl's costume that's kind of off, the horns, or I guess owl ears, on his cowl. I guess that's supposed to show movie audiences why he calls himself Nite Owl, but then you lose the nod to the 1940s Blue Beetle look of the original comic design. If Dan Dreiberg is Ted Kord as the sixties Blue Beetle, then Hollis Mason is the Dan Garrett Blue Beetle of the forties. Oh, well. can't wait to see these characters in color.
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So fuckin cool!!! WB, let Snyder fulfill his vision on this film. Runtime, ending, whatever. Hand over the reigns, because this man is gonna make a MASTERPIECE!
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You are right. I do care. But everyone else does not.
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The overuse of a term I don't understand is aggravating. I'm assuming this is a term combining "costume" and "play" in reference to the adults who go to comic book conventions and dress in costume? Is that it?
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May 28, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST
My comment wasn't directed at the minutemen pic . . .
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
. . . but the movie as a whole. I've seen plenty of character/live action shots and it still looks like a bad Nick Fury tv movie staring the hoff. Nuff said.
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to pore is to examine...you always do that Harry. STOP IT.
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I hope Zack pulls this off so that Alan Moore can officially shut his Hagrid-looking piehole and finally get over himself.
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The layman will boo the hell out of this when the trailer shows, and it'll be lucky to pull in 10 million on opening weekend. The use of authentic costume was a mistake, and there's a reason they are rarely used or changed in some way. Spider-man can pull it off because they found the right fabric and look. This is just plain corny and in a bad way.
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"In the book, someone says that it was rumored that Mothman could fly, but he mostly ran around shooting crooks with a gun." Nope, that's not in the book...the only shots Mothman ever took were of the whiskey variety.
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...is that some kind of fetish thing where someone can only get off while watching reruns of The Cosby Show or something?
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Exactly. And due to this fact....it could go either way, although it'll be very difficult if one is referring to the upward direction....in a 2-hr film that is. Still...once again, I'll reserve judgement until we have a product to judge. Frigg....that's startin' to be my catch phrase...that and Uwe. Boll.<p>Although..."too faithful"??? Oh please. I mean...fucking REALLY.<p>Oh, and Human2...it's probably a lost cause trying to inform Harry that he repeatedly uses incorrect grammar/syntax/spelling. I've been trying for years to tell him that there's no such word as "noone" (it's "no one" or "no-one")...unless you're talkin' about Peter Noone.<p>"...noone will see this"....heh. Hey, if the lead singer of Herman's Hermits is down with it, I'm all over it.
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will be releasing a DVD animated version of the Black Freighter just four days after Watchmen is released theatrically, along with a documentary style film called "Under the Hood" about all the superheroes. Then after Watchmen is released on DVD, they will release a new version of it spliced with that material. Come on AICN, get fuckin with it! This was in the New York Times!
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Everything about this looks like SMART movie making.
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that looks horrible like other have said its looks like some cheap cheezy costumes from saturday morning kids shows i hope thats not going to be in the movie
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I am a HUGE Watchmen fan, and I will run to see whatever Snyder ends up with. I might love it, I might not, but I have ZERO expectation of seeing the entire novel on the screen. Hollywood decided...by trial and error...that 2 hours is about the max time to put someone's butt in a theatre seat. Oh, people have tried to film an entire novel and in fact succeeded, only to have studio execs balk and cut and cajole until it was around...2 hours. Case in point...Erich Von Stroheim. He started out working with D.W. Griffith on "Intolerance" and went on to film "Greed", based on the book "McTeague" by Frank Norris. The result was a NINE HOUR MOVIE. Yes, he got the whole book on film, but no one would show it, even with multiple intermissions. It was repeatedly cut, and eventually got close to 2 hours and was shown, but by then, it's creator had disowned it and moved on to making "conventional" films. The 6-7 hours of footage that was cut was destroyed by the studio and is lost forever. Reportedly, it was actually pretty damn good at 9-plus hours, but no one alive now ever saw that version. The LOTR films were, for me at least, pretty good ADAPTATIONS of the original material, but even at almost 11 hours for the Extended version trilogy, it's nowhere close to "the entire book(s) to screen". I think the approach of releasing "Tales Of The Black Freighter" and "Under The Hood" as separate pieces may work. We'll see. Oh, as for the picture...absolutely works for me!
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There just isn't anything else to say about that pic.
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Because she's smokin'!
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you may be right. I seem to remember Mothman being described as a non-powered gun-toting crimefighter in one of the Hollis Mason 'Under the Hood' excerpts but now that i think of it, i may have actually read it in one of Alan Moore's backstory notes in the Graffiti special edition Watchmen book (now the Absolute edition) or the backgrounds and timelines in the Moore approved Mayfair Games role playing supplements. I have the Graffiti edition handy but the Mayfair supplements are buried in boxes somewhere in a closet. I'll check on it later.
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everyone keeps asking why the release isnt until march 09...that is why...maybe the theatrical release will suck...but that will be because the suits got their hands on it...but the zach version will definitely be on dvd
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everyone keeps asking why the release isnt until march 09...that is why...maybe the theatrical release will suck...but that will be because the suits got their hands on it...but the zach version will definitely be on dvd
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he has stated quite clearly that he doesnt care if any of his work is successfully translated to screen...he believes that comics and film are different mediums...and he is right...the experience you get from watching the movie will no way equal the experience you get from reading the comic
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only worse
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but then given the fact that I didn't like 300 or the Dawn of the Dead remake, I'm not all that surprised. Still, this will be a good excuse to revisit the comic.
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LOOK at the earliest Golden Era Comics, go on. See the costumes ? The naive looking portrayal of villains and heroes ? THAT is what Moore and now Snyder are getting at.<p> <p>Moore has obsessively studied and then written in the style of ALL the comic book eras in a great many of his comics. Portraying them with wit and humour but also a great deal of affection.<p> <p>They are not MEANT to look like slick 2008 Superheroes. Understand ?
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anyone else thinks he looks like Borat?
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It just seems that anyone who has read it and understood what it was about would get why these costumes are great the way they are. <p>Whether or not the general public, whose first exposure to Watchmen will be the trailer, will go see the film will rely heavily on the trailer's ability to express what the movie is all about. The picture above, out of context, looks ridiculous. Hopefully the studio doesn't simply hand the film over to the marketing department to cut a trailer. If they market this as a straight-up superhero movie the trailer will be laughed off the screen. Seeing that people will expect to hear "from the makers of Epic Movie and Meet the Spartans".
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From Dodgeball?
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The example I cited..."Greed", quite literally had EVERY line of dialogue and EVERY scene from the source material book, "McTeague". That's an extreme that no one else has attempted, to be sure. I think there's little chance of that happening with "Watchmen" or any modern film, because of the "2 hour rule" that Hollywood insists on. More than one critic/pundit decried the first LOTR film for being over 3 hours long. I think there's just too much going on in Watchmen to get the whole thing translated to film. OTOH, if the reports of the animated "Tales Of The Black Freighter" and another release with "Under The Hood", a lot of the novel will done...but in 3 separate pieces. I don't have an issue with that. If the movie doesn't blow chunks, I absolutely want to see the DVD and hope it has "more stuff". Regardless, I'm looking forward to whatever Snyder comes up with. Hopefully, the DVD will have the "unrated" or even an NC-17 version of the movie. Given some of the book's scenes, it'd almost demand a super hard "R" rating for release, with the MPAA cuts absent from the DVD.
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I love this photo. Love the tits off it. And we get three hours too? Zack, you the man!
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I'm nervous about this, I have to say. While I think that the above image (and indeed all the material I have seen pertaining to the Watchmen film thus far) looks great, I still think that Watchmen is unfilmable without ripping the guts out of the story. The book itself is an incredible mosaic where every panel is a vital componant of the story. It was a story specifically desgined for the medium of comics and when you take that story to another medium, you lose what makes it so special. I appreciate that I sound like one of those fanboys who has a lot of incomprehensible and petty prejudices about the way his beloved comics are portrayed on screen. I do actually in fact believe that a great deal of comic book translations to the screen have been very competantly done (Batman, Spider man, Supes...even Wonder Woman at a stretch). Alan moore's work is a very different kettle of fish. I would also make the same argument for the novel-- the recent adaptation of Phillip Pullman's The Northern Lights was a failiure because it shied away from or could not imitate the heart and structure of the book. I think Watchmen will be, at best, an elegant if watered down version of the tale like V for Vendetta. At worst it might be bloated and incoherrant like Dune or Southland Tales.
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Over on comics2film.com Snyder said that, as it currently stands, the film will run about 3 hrs.
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Dude has to work it into this one somewhere. It would provide continuity with his other films. There's that moment between Wonder Woman and Portly Owl Man where it could work. Zak should do it for his loyal fans, who are clearly nerds, and thus need help wowing the chicks in the sack. Reverse Cowgirl is also good.
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And stop his whining about adapting his comic books to the big screen. Call his bluff.
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If Zack Snyder does this movie right, it will not do big box office at all. It will turn a lot of people off. Comic book movies do well when they have lots of teenagers and young adults going to the theater. This will do about as well as V for Vendetta, at best. It may be a great film, but it's not going to be a hit.
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Let the brain-dead morons fill the studio coffers by flocking to see whatever the Epic Movie guys next fish out of their toilet, and I'll go see Watchmen with people who appreciate a good movie. Believe me, the crowds that make a film popular usually aren't the people you want to watch a movie with.
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if its not 3hrs long there isnt much point in my book, even though i'd bet the look will be on point, look at what snyder did for 300, there story needs to be able to linger to have a shot of being a solid sense of the book. i remember being 12 and spending an hour reading through the notes on dr.manhattan and "under the hood", we all know its a lot to cover... can skimp on that.. btw If you haven't heard there's a youtube contest to create commercials for Veidt products with the best possibly ending up in the film. here's mine for Nostalgia and Veidt Airlines, the commercials are to be set in 1985 so what do you think of my 80s retro feel? http://tinyurl.com/48xwuq Wondered what you all think:
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Hopefully it will be the movie you have been waiting for to see. Screw everyone else. Have a great time.
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That's enough to get me to watch.
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There will be a Watchmen trailer with The Dark Night Returns. Also, they are officially doing the Black Freighter in 2D cel for the DVD...
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