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Niz looks at SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER, UNCUT (the movie)
I've never really been a huge fan of SOUTH PARK, though almost everyone else here at Geek Headquarters (save for my father and Robogeek) seems to be. In fact there is rarely a 5 minute period where Quint won't do one voice or another from the show.... And Tom Joad's computer is loaded up with soundbytes from South Park for nearly ever minor problem. It drives me insane. BUT... hey... I do laugh alot at THE SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS and at the episode with the satelite up the ass, and the Jay Leno super chin thing. Hell, I'll admit it... I don't have cable, so I can't really talk about SOUTH PARK... The movie will be my first real introduction to them. BUT... why is there a SOUTH PARK movie, and no SIMPSONS movie? I mean... Come on.... Don't you want to see a SIMPSONS movie? Me too.... Oh well, here's Niz and his review.... (Some Spoilers are contained)
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
A review by Niz
I recently had the chance to view a post-production VHS copy of the eagerly awaited South Park movie. The film is in the final stages of
post-production: some frames of animation are not yet completed (they are replaced by a series of stills) and some of the dialogue track is to be
redubbed. Otherwise, the film is pretty much ready for release - the story is clear and all the dialogue is present, voiced by all the correct actors.
[This paragraph contains spoilers]
So, how does it fare? It kicks off in style as Cartman and the gang sneak in to the brand new Terrence & Philip movie. This film-within-a-film
("Asses of Fire") is a hilarious excuse for offensive bad-language (not bleeped!) and vulgar toilet humour. It contains a brilliant musical number
containing nothing but four-letter words, clearly a celebration of the new-found freedom SOUTH PARK's creators have found with an 18
certificate ('R' in the US). Naturally, the South Park kids are impressed, and are soon repeating the swearing at school. Soon, the news of the
kids' foul mouths filters through to the teachers and the parents, who are up in arms. The film then turns into an unsubtle attack on a society of
censorship, as the parents point the blame at Terrence & Philip themselves, putting them on trial, sentencing them to death, and declaring war
on their homeland (Canada).
[Spoilers end]
So far, so good. There are some brilliant gags and one-liners (as you'd expect) and the relationship between Satan and Saddam Hussein is
possibly the sickest thing I've ever seen - so the film must be doing something right.
Unfortunately, it seems that the natural length for SOUTH PARK is half an hour. The film simply can't sustain the cartoons simple one-note
inanity for the full running time of the feature. All the best ideas are in the first half-hour, after which SOUTH PARK begins to slide into
repetition and tedium. There is no denying the thrill of hearing the South Parkers swear for real, but basing an entire film on this premise
suggests laziness. Certainly, its watchable and enjoyable enough (as any average episode of the TV show is), but you get the feeling that
SOUTH PARK has possibly exhausted its format with this movie. There is very little left to explore, meaning the film has to resort to cliched
fantasy and war sequences.
The most irritating aspect of SOUTH PARK THE MOVIE is undoubtedly the boring musical numbers. There are far too many of them, of which
only one-or-two are remotely amusing. They exist only as filler, padding the story out to reach feature film length. Equally tedious is the
sub-plot involving Kenny's death (yes, he dies - no spoilers there).
SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER AND UNCUT is a fan's film. It is good to see that the creators are not compromising their vision in an
attempt to draw in a more mainstream audience: this is as acerbic and cruel as any TV episode. Unfortunately, as a fan's film, it follows the strict
formula of 'more of the same'. There is nothing particularly special here to distinguish it from the TV show other than the swearing, some poor
songs, and some snazzy animation sequences. Building it up as an 'event movie' is possibly a mistake: it would be more at home as a
sell-through video release.
This film's potential under-achievement, combined with the TV show's dwindling audience figures in the States, could well spell the end of the
SOUTH PARK franchise. This may be a blessing in disguise. Parker & Stone are undoubtedly talented people, and it may be time for them to
move on to projects new: the clear parallel is with a similarly controverial cartoon, BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD, which ended with a major motion
picture, to be replaced by the more emotionally rich and mature KING OF THE HILL.
So, in conclusion, SOUTH PARK THE MOVIE just about stands on its own merits, and all fans should certainly see it, not least because it may
be the last you will ever see. It was fun while it lasted, but no more SOUTH PARK please.
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I agree, South Park is not what it used to be anymore. There's just no way to keep a show like SP funny and interesting for more than two seasons (even though i have to admit I really liked "rainforest"). Ending it with the movie (before the show REALLY starts to drag) is not a bad idea. I'd really like to see what Trey and Matt do next.
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hmm, a Simpsons movie...now THAT would be cool!!
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I know it was on the 18th for a while, but now, i have heard that they have fear of Tarzan's potential success. In fact, i think this movie will suck. While watching the show is just ok, (one time in a year), i will never pay 7$ to see it on the big screen. i mean, what will there be more to see on the big screen? The sucking-is-the-word animation? Oh, yes, we'll listen to the stupid jokes in Dolby Surround, but as for me, I am more waiting for this ballsy animated feature that Tarzan is.
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You are right, South Park has been on the decline since the brilliant first season, but it is still one of the best shows on television. This was the creators chance to pull all punches and restore the ratings for the television show, and I thought this might be the funniest film (live action or animated) in recent years. Could this be the end or the rebirth of South Park? I still will be the first in line on June 30.
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you know, if you go see tarzan, you're only encouraging disney to shy away from creating any real animated films. they'll realize that they CAN please everyone, and they CAN fill what could be a serious attempt at film with cutesy characters and cheesy songs, and american animation can stay in this rut indefinately. i'm really looking forward to iron giant, but you people have to realize that films like it have incredibly hard times getting off the ground because of this disney business.
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Is there anything wrong with me? I'm a twenty-three-year-old American male and....I DON'T LIKE SOUTH PARK!! My God, is that even LEGAL?? Where I live, we didn't get Comedy Central until May 1, 1998, a little over a year ago. Of course I'd heard of the show, saw the merchandise in the stores, etc. So when our slooooow cable company finally got around to installing Comedy Central in our area (love WIN BEN STEIN'S MONEY, by the way), I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about. The first episode I caught was the one where a certain individual gets his kicks by screwing chickens. Okay, I admit it: I laughed a couple of times, but by the end of the episode, the premise ran out of gas (heh heh). It wasn't long (at least one more complete episode) before I realized that the show recycled the same gags and humor over and over again. And now we get the feature film. Ninety minutes of profanity, vulgarity, and violence, too strong for the small screen. Sometimes I don't know how shit like this gets made. This is the same Hollywood that made Orson Welles an outcast (who ended his brilliant career by doing voices for a TRANSFORMERS movie), and green light such bottom of the sewer tripe like this, RINGMASTER, A NIGHT AT THE ROXBURY, IT'S PAT, and the like. I bet more people saw A NIGHT AT THE ROXBURY than Altman's SHORT CUTS. What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
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No, I'm not a "humorless moron" as a poster suggested we that hate SOUTH PARK are. I love comedy, such as THE SIMPSONS, the works of the Farrelly Brothers, SNL 1975-1980 (the only cast that mattered), Steve Martin, Jim Carrey, and, if you want to go back further, Laurel & Hardy, the Marx Brothers, Buster Keaton. What I absolutely LOATHE is comedy that beats you over the head with repetitive gags that practically scream to the viewer: "I'm doing something funny! Please laugh at me!!" This list includes SOUTH PARK, Adam Sandler, Mike Myers and the whole Austin Powers thing, Chris Farley, BASEKETBALL, which was a pitiful waste of celluloid, and FAMILY GUY, which doesn't have an original idea to save its life, except to rip-off THE SIMPSONS. For me, the funniest movie of 1998 was Terry Gilliam's brilliant FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS. Now THAT was a movie I saw twice in the theater, only because I was laughing so hard the first time (and no, I don't think drug abuse if funny--the movie was just so ludicrously over the top with consumption and excess that I couldn't help myself).
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so you don't like south park - well, good for you. now (unlike a certain poster) i don't neccesarily think you are a humorless moron but please accept that a lot of people who like sp aren't either. let me assure you, it is possible to love robert altman's films (or the hilarious fear and loathing) and at the same time laugh about south park or austin powers.
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I wish I could remember the product, but some time in the late sixties or early seventies there was a very succesful series of commercials featuring some cute little boy. I don't remember the product but what I do remember is that the little boy died. As a result the commercials were pulled out of respect for the boy's family. Can You imagine that happening today ? As a kid I used to think it would be hilarious if the adults on T.V. talkshows were to break out into shouting matches and fistfights. Be careful what you wish for ? I never DREAMED that such a thing could actually happen let alone become a common occurance. We seem to have turned into a society with no boundaries. No sense of cooth. While I am oppossed to censorship I can see the handwriting on the wall in the wake of The Columbine Massacre. In the area of skyrocketing divorce and duel income families children are raising themselves and they don't seem to be doing a very good job of it. Who can blame them? We can all debate the merits of SOUTHPARK and BEAVIS&BUTTHEAD but is there anyone here who will deny that these are clearly ADULT CARTOONS? Nothing wrong with Adult Cartoons.But adult cartoons are not for children that's why they are reffered to as adult cartoons.The cruelty and edge of these shows are very funny to some adults but most children DON"T GET IT. They simply learn that cruelty is funny. ie They learn to be callous.I'm hoping to see the death of SOUTHPARK along with the end of JERRY SPRINGER and THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER because I'd like to live in a world where people are NOT callous and desensitized. If this stuff was kept away from children I wouldn't mind so much but their distributers lack the good taste to do this. SOUTHPARK merchandise is actually geared TOWARDS children. In arcades and 7-11s. Billboards for the movie are all over town. Posters and banners are strung all over the theatres and the trailer has been shown at most screenings of THE PHANTOM MENACE. Growing up in the 70s I remember Adult Animation
(that I couldn't see because they were rated 'R')such as FRITZ THE CAT, HEAVY TRAFFIC, HEY GOOD LOOKIN, etc. I don't know about anyone else who was around back then but I don't recall seeing trailers for these films when I went to see PLANET OF THE APES or the original STAR WARS. I don't recall Ralf Backshi merchandise being targeted toward my particular demographic...kids. What the hell kind of a fucked up world are we living in now ? While I admit to detesting SOUTHPARK I actually do like BEAVIS&BUTTHEAD....but NOT(!!!)for kids. For all of you other SOUTHPARK haters I should point out the happy news that Parker&Stone have had not one,not two but THREE bombs (BASEKETBALL,CANNIBAL THE MUSICAL & ORGASMO) in the last year. If SOUTHPARK bombs as well this might actually be their last hurrah. One can only hope. -
For those of you who think South Park is just "toilet humor" and devoid of intellegence, you should take another look at the series. In a decent number of episodes, there's a message of some kind behind the story being told. And while people will attack three of their movies for being bombs, how many times do good movies do well commercially? I noticed Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas mentioned a lot here... how much did that do in theatres, again? I think we can all agree movie grosses don't equal good or bad movie. As far as the argument of how films like SP, Austin Powers, etc. are bad... you can't grade all these films on the same level. Compared to other satires, Austin Powers is wickedly funny, and quite superior. And finally, as far as Orson Welles' career ending with being in Transformers: The Movie... hey, that was a better flick than Phantom Menace. =p
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They did not write Baseketball. So I would not blame Baseketball on them anymore than I'd blame Bruce Willis for DieHard3 sucking so hard.
South Park is consistanly funny. I laugh harder everytime a new episode airs. I can't wait for the movie.
Another flick they did was Orgasmo . Orgasmo was funny as hell. If you haven't seen it, rent it or something. It's almost like a liveaction southpark type of universe.
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I was never a South Park Fan until I saw the fucking hilarious and much maligned ORGAZMO. When people tell me to watch PHANTOM MENACE through a child's eyes (where am I gonna get a pair of those they ain't easy to come by) -- I turn around and tell them "see ORGAZMO through the eyes of an idiot". That's what I did and it wasn't hard since I am an idiot to begin with. Now I love South Park and wallowing in all it's resplendant glory of stupidity. Glad to hear there's allot of musical numbers in the film. Trey Parker is the Gershwin of moronic idiots and the stoic flag bearer of musical numbers into the next millenium. Don't beleive me? See CANNIBAL THE MUSICAL by said ingrate, and marvel at show tunes like "Shpidoinkle Day", "When I'm on top of you" and "Let's Build a Snowman". I'm soooooo hungry -- Hey I've got FUDGE!
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I'm willing to invest $4 to see a matinee of any movie that contains a good penis reference in the title.
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Thank God Darth Siskel doesn`t make movies our we`d all be subject to stuff that sucks hard.
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WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY doesn't anybody make a 2hour computer animated film based on the TRANSFORMERS universe, the series may have been for children but TRANSFORMERS THE MOVIE was great, because it was created by japanese animators (AKIRA ? ANYONE ? GHOST IN THE SHELL ? RING ANY BELLS ?) plus the idea of giant robots that can change into things like cars and planes etc. is great...oh and after all they made godzilla !
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The last one made me cry.
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For all of the fart jokes and vulgarities found in SP, what really makes me watch every episode more than once is the way the show is always poking fun at popular culture and the society that makes it. Trey and Matt have created the ultimately politically correct cartoon. Instead of not using stereotypes, they stereotype everyone and everything. No one is above good satire and no one gets off (except the Cure.)
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people bring columbine into everything w/out knowing the facts, the boy left a friggin note explaining himself, it wasn't southpark or the games or the matrix or leonardo or jar jar it was that he was a lil nutty these boys grew up well in a rich school and they got the shit end of the stick and couldn't take it anymore and the gunshows helped them get guns and they used them, they shouldn't have, it was sad but it had NOTHING to do with pop culture so give it a fucking REST!!!!
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I am not going to tell everyone what I like to watch as this is a subject that has been beat like the proverbial dead horse. All I want to say on the subject is who are we to tell each other what to watch or not to watch, if you dont like it turn the dial or do not plop down your $7 bucks. It IS that simple.
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I'm not sure a Simpsons movie would be that great an idea. I love the show, but part of what makes it work is its absolute mastery of the 30-minute format: it's perfect and compact and leaves you wanting more. i can't quite imagine a 60-minute episode, much less a 90-minute movie. i'm sure it could be done and be quite funny, but more might paradoxically be less satisfying. i think of it as a classic sitcom more than as a piece of animation; imagine trying to transform a live-action sitcom into a movie, and you'll see what i mean.
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May 31, 1999 12:58:26 AM CDT
Beavis and Butthead was acually smart where as South Park is not
by wanker
Yes you read that
right. Beavis and
Butthead was a very
smart show. After
they ran out of ideas
(which was very soon) they actually changed the concept of the show. It was no longer about these two stupid teenagers, but rather how they fit into society, and how society had to deal with them. The show quickly went from stories about them alone in a field hiting frogs with a bat, to them having to go into a store on an erand and interact with the other people in the town. The other background characters is where the intelligent humor came from. South Park o the other hand just relies on simple things like swearing and gimmicks like Kenny dieing. I liked the first few episodes, but after that it just didn't go anywhere. Personally I start to lose interest when they do things like actually just reuse word for word jokes that were used in previous episodes for no comedic reason. I think that the most clever thing that they have done so far was the April fools trick, but surprise, surprise. It pissed off a lot of "fans". Did anyone actually care about finding out who Cartmans father was? do peole really watch South Park for the gripping cliff hangers? Its not like they said "April fools! here's a repeat!" They still showed a new episode so who cares! I thought that was a great joke to play on their fans, but I guess the "fans" just don't like a "good" joke. I still watch the show sometimes, ut it really isn't that good and I don't see the movie being any good either. B and B on the other hand was strong through ut its run, and the film was great. Also Tarzan looks like a fucking joke. I just can't stand that new Disney computer animation being pawned off as regular animation. Doesn't artistry matter anymore? -
Looks like the new Jack Ryan film wont be called The Sum Of All Fears instead it looks like it will be called Debt of Honour if anyone want to read more about this news the web addrees http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/sumofallfears.html
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god i think i wanna start shooting you people in the head, all you people that are like err south park is stupid it s declining, ohhh i only like simpsons cause its "not vulgar and not violent", i haaaate beavis and butthead their sooo mean, and tarzan ruulllles, yay, disneys absolutely briiiiliant, the south park movie will be stuuupid, im too good for this kind of humor. all you people are idiots. south park rules, simpsons rule, beavis and, or butthead rule, ren and stimpy ruled, and disney can impail themselves on a nail.
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I was a Transformer fanatic when I was around 10 or 11 and still remember the tv show fondly and wonder why it is not on Cartoon Network. The tv show had a human element that appealed to kids, remember the father and son. And then the movie came out and it was dark to the max, Transformers dying left to right and moving the setting from Earth to this electronic planet. Kids stayed away when the series adopted this setting and style.
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dont give me any of that snl 75-80 was the best evvverrrr, yes it was funny, but the damn shows been on for like 30 years, their is better seasons then the first one, not all of them sucked. stop being a slave to the first 5 seasons, they were maybe innovative and great back then, but they arent that good anymore. give it up you slaves!!!
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I agree, South Park's creators are doing in pure vulgar humor. So what ? Aren't you people tired of watching TV shows always trying to be politically correct, valorizing purely American values. Believe it or not, it's exactly Simpson's case. I know most Americans don't see it but it's true. I
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I've seen episodes of SOUTH PARK. Frankly, I'm at a total loss. What is so funny about it? It's just vulgarity, gross-out stunts, and shock value; there's not one single speck of humor in the whole thing. Outside of anything made by Tim "I'm the undisputed king of self-important hacks and proud of it" Burton and Jon "I'm a moron, so bow down before me" Peters, I've never seen anything as pointless, quality-deficient, and unfunny as SOUTH PARK. Kill Kenny? I have a better idea: kill the whole show and ban Parker and Stone from Hollywood forever.
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You can't say that South Park is devoid of wit, just as you can't say that it's some kind of moralic (w?) social satire and "Trey and Matt" are geniuses. After the initial shock-value of the first 6 episodes, "Trey and Matt" have cluttered the show with what reall y are funny references... Styx, Come Sail Away? Isaac Hayes? the VERY fact that he's Isaac Hayes? And these references will generally fly right over the heads of most audience members-- who will continue to insist it's all just toilet humor. I wonder if the people who say that Austin Powers (a satire of EVERYTHING James Bond) and Family Guy (a satire of television and tv lifestyle) suck, just because they're too young or "uncultured" to understand the pop-satire that saturate these presentations. But the question here isn't about the funniness of the show, but the originality of the ideas. You only have to see a handful of episodes of South Park to get every laugh out of the primary jokes that you'll ever get. It's a dragged out premise. Even the movie is just a rehash of the first season episode dealing with... ironically, Terrence and Phillip. The whole moral of that episode is, "hey, it's okay that we're doing what we're doing." Which seems like self-preservation or self-sanctification instead of actual social commentary. And besides, the "look we can swear in our new format" joke is the most overused bit for format changes, an idea without any creativity or wit. In the end, it's just as Nix said, and I ask, How long can you stretch the premise of South Park?
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I have a problem with the fact that young kids love this show and repeat the language and vulgarity from the show. I am by no means a prude, if you had a camera behind me following me around for the last 24 hours the material would surely be rated X. I personally don't care for South Park (obviously) but believe that if you are an adult you can hopefully understand the supposed irony and subtexts in the show. Unfortuately, most 7 to 10 year old kids are not picking up on that stuff, they are only finding out new ways to insult each other and growing more desensitized by it every year. There's a huge difference to me over two boys calling each other "asswipe" on Beavis & Butthead and a grandpa calling his daughter's child "son of a whore" on South Park. I hope this movie is the end of this francise as others have stated.
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Okay, so we will never see this review of a South Park movie; "Once in a generation, a motion picture transcends expectations and creates a following in the hearts and minds of all who see it. This movie is South Park. A movie which makes you laugh, cry, fart...a movie which, much like Star Wars or Titanic, is destined to become a watershed moment in 20th century film history."
People either understand Parker/Stone humor, and laugh like maniacs, or you don't. Pure and simple. BASEketball was hilarious to me, as the Waterboy was pure torture. BASEketball failed to garner the money, Waterboy makes $150 million domestically. I just saw Orgazmo, and laughed throughout the whole movie. And I have every South Park DVD. It is simply a matter of what makes one laugh. I can appreciate and love my DVD copy of Lawrence of Arabia or The English Patient, but it is nice to be able to just be a kid again, and laugh at Cartman, Kyle and Stan. And for those purists who REALLY believe that kids did not used to curse and laugh at such humor, or that they should not "understand" it now, you are livin in a fool's paradise. -
...the show will be gone by this same time next year, it will be as old as yesterday's Mr. Hanky and when you're able to find all of the South Park merchandise in the shitty discount bins, THEN you can laugh yourselves silly. I know I will.
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it's not! and argh watch a few shows before you say anything! it uses vulgarity and irony to teach good lessons ok so maybe that's not it's primary goal but it comes across, like the big gay al episode and tolerence, or the underpants gnome episode and why not all big businesses are completely evil and the jesus v satan episode which points out how disloyal most people are and how easily people are swayed and the episode where they try to get rid of terrence and phillip and leave the kids alone to go get rid of the "vulgar" show and the kids have worse things happen while they're away and how stupid blaming the shows are and the anti assisted suicide show and jews at xmas show and the anti cloning show and thanksgiving show (briliant ;D) where they switch cartman and starvin marvin and point out how greedy americans are and how fat sally struthers is i mean everything that the shows are based around are some sort of societal issue coated in potty humor which i think is better cuz people see after school sappy specials and laugh going "ha right! pfff! that's soo stupid" but southpark you get the tolerence idea and go ha yeah we are like that! but are kept interested, i'm not saying it's perfect but it's NOT crap and it'll be around for awhile, i for one will keep it going =)
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While not always hilarious, SOUTH PARK is always interesting and creative, and those of you who stereotype it as "fart jokes and vulgar humor" either have your eyes closed or are just plain stupid. Also, I think the idea of Terrence and Philip being put on trial and sentenced to death at the beginning of the movie is worth the price of admission alone.
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Am I the only one that sees the parellel between what is happening in this TalkBack, and what (supposedly) happens in the SP movie? Parker & Stone are making fun of people that condemn shows and movies for things like vulgarity. They know people are going to make a big deal out of it, so they turn it into a satire. They take it to an extreme and poke fun at it in an attempt to show how unproductive it is to get bunched up about such things. Unfortunately there are always people who don't understand the satire, or ignore it in order to make a point. It's just entertainment--it's something to watch when nothing better is on. I like SP. I think they can be very clever at times (and not-so-clever at others), and the one-liners can become joke fodder between me and my friends, but it doesn't go much beyond that. I don't try to take some philosophic lesson from it (positive or not), because I don't see one to take. If you do...that's great, but do you have to have everyone else agree with you?
There is a quote from an old special on the making of MST3K back when it was still on Comedy Central that I think summarizes my point well. Joel Hodgson(sp?) said, "We don't worry about writing jokes that a lot of people will get, because we know that the RIGHT people will get our jokes." (or words to that effect)
As for the issue with kids...the rating systems in both film AND TV were created for a reason. A TV-mature or an R rating means kids shouldn't watch it. It's that simple! If you have kids, and you find the show offensive--DON'T LET THEM WATCH IT!! They'll probably watch it at a friend's house (a la one ep of SP), but that is your problem, not society's. Be a strong parent and deal with it, but stop bitching at us. If you don't have any kids, and you STILL have a bug up your ass...well...that's YOUR problem, but don't spoil it for those of us who are mature enough to enjoy it as entertainment and humor. I don't mean just South Park, but everything you that might fall in your crosshairs.
Someone mentioned the South Park toys being marketed at kids. I'm willing to bet a month's salary that there will be at least one joke about merchandise tie-ins in the SP movie. That's one thing I find hilarious about Parker & Stone. They work within the system to make fun of it. Chances are Parker & Stone have little or no influence on their products and how they're marketed.
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You know, some people wonder why there isn't a Simpsons movie. I attribute it to two factors. The first is the reason why Niz here is saying that South Park isn't good. The fact of the matter is The Simpsons as well as South Park are half-hour TV shows that often struggle to expand themselves into feature length films. Often, the formula works for the first third, but then lapses into repetition and ultimately is disappointing. I think Beavis & Butthead were pretty successful in making a feature length film that was enjoyable and funny. The second reason is that there isn't anything that the Simpsons could do that would be big enough to warrant a feature lenght motion picture. Think about some of the episodes they've had. Homer goes into outer space; Homer goes to hell; Bart sells his soul; Mr. Burns gets shot; the Simpsons go to Itchy and Scratchy Land. Please, someone tell me a plotline that would be big enough for a movie.
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I don't want to get into a big debate on Columbine or guns or anything, but the kids there did not get their guns at a gun show. They got an older girlfriend to buy them legally from a store. That's why some people are saying that passing the new restrictions on gun shows are just to make people feel good, but will actually accomplish little.
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I happen to think SP is pretty damn funny, but that is beside the point of my posting. What I don't understand is why so many people believe that a strong social message = a good show. Posters keep saying it's not just potty humor, it teaches valuable lessons about gun control, bigotry, environmental protection, etc. So what? Like that is supposed to escalate the value/worth of the show? Some of the worst POSs in history (anyone ever see Mac N' Me?) had "important messages." Can you say Waterworld? What made Just Cause (w/ Sean Connery) so great is that it seemed so predictably "message oriented" that the viewer was shocked when the story went the other way. Why should a message make one show better than another? Your homework tonight is to compare and contrast Seinfeld with Captain Planet. Have fun.
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is upset and when Mr. Bigglesworth is upset people die!
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Okay people. South Park has always been a show you either love (like I do) or hate (like my brother-in-law does). No name calling is necessary. Humor is a subjective thing. I personally never liked Beavis & Butthead (I thought it was derivative of Ren & Stimpy which I loved in the earlier years), but I really like King of the Hill. If all people all loved the same thing, life would be rather boring.
I'm looking forward to seeing the SP movie. I should have been this excited by Phantom Menace, but I wasn't. I thought it was an okay movie, but not the second-coming that advertisers and magazines made it out to be. I was hyped to death, and that might factor into my lukewarm appreciation of that film.
I know sustaining any television show into a full-length movie has its pitfalls (I loved the X-Files movie, but it felt a little long in places), so I come to expect that in anything that attempts the transition of tv to film (Now, if they only would make a HOMICIDE movie) ...
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. If you watch it and it doesn't suit you, you have learned that you should avoid it.
Television the internet, music and movies are not made to be the baby-sitters of the children of the world. Unfortunately there are "adults" out there who feel that it is their right to neglect their children and let the entertainment industry raise their children. These same "adults" are the first to condemn the entertainment industry when an incident like Columbine occurrs. South Park didn't pull the trigger, a person did. The internet didn't make the bombs and place them in the school, a person did. If there was a caring parent paying attention to the activities of their child prior to this event, then it may not have happened. Hindsight is 20/20. And to paraphrase a line from "Parenthood": You need a license to have a dog, but anyone can have a kid.
Things have changed. Married people on television do not sleep in separate beds. Fights are staged, or happen on talkshows. If you don't like it, don't watch it, but don't make the sweeping comments that the entertainment industry is causing the moral decay of society.
Baseketball was made (written and directed) by someone else, Parker and Stone only acted in it. The other movies are their own...and I happen to think they are funny. When I am down, all I have to do is pop in a tape of theirs and I am laughing in mere moments. That is my opinion.
That's the thing....we are all entitled to our opinions...to have them, and share them...not to get righteous and shove their opinions down a persons throat. -
For whatever it may be worth, I saw Star Wars 1 at New York's Ziegfield Theater Friday night (had to buy a ticket a week in advance to get a decent seat, yes they have assigned seating the bastards), and the audience ROARED at the South Park trailer. They laughed and laughed and buzzed to their friends for a solid 30 seconds. Total approval of the concept. Caveat: they also applauded wildly! when the Lucas Films logo appeared on screen in SW pre-credits.
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Just because people see things on TV doesn't mean they will go out and do it. If someone did what they saw on south park and then did what our president has done with interns, who is worse. I have seen a lot of South Park (a funny show) and also a lot of news. The only difference between the two is that South Park is a fake cartoon and the news is what is really happening in our country today. The same type of events conspire in both programs.
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well i say that southpark is one of the greatest shows off all time and the movie will rock because it's southpark, just like beavis and butthead, the only other shows that might or is better then southpark would be news radio, sliders, the simpsons and maybe king of the hill
and for the who don't like any of these movies can just "suck it"
southpark will be on forever
also if anybody disagree with me then send my an email because i might not ever be back here
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First off, to all who are against SP--You have a remote, change the channel. People understand that not everyone enjoys the same things in this world. You do not need to force your opinion upon everyone else.
Second, to all who are SP fans--We have our opinions as do the people who do not like the show. They are entitled to voice their opinions any way they wish. I don't believe that we are going to sway their opinion in any way by arguing with them and complaining about what they write.
Finally, on a personal note, I do not believe that sending messages (some of which, both fan and non fan, are as littered with as much vulgarity as the show) back and forth to argue with others will accomplish anything. Everyone has their own opinions and let's leave it at that. Stop the needless argument. I learned a long time ago that everyone believes different things and that people rarely change their beliefs when someone else disagrees with them. You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, but we need not argue about them. -
Probably the biggest piece of shit that passes for entertainment these days.I can't believe it's coming from the same mind that gave us Beavis & Butt-head.I have been unable to watch more than 2 seconds of this show since it aired.If you wanna torture me to death,make me watch an episode of king of the hill!
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ok, if you dont like south park why the heck are you you here reading about it! he didnt say that it sucks just that its a fans film. i personally dont think the show has lost it magic, each show is better than the next. im proud of the show cause it is good enough and it actually can come up with a story thats long enough for a movie! i dont see the simpsons doing anything like that! i personally was a simpsons fan, i have sen EVERY a episode and there new episodes suck! they have stupid characters! so take that! south park is good because of its wide cast of characters that are so good you want to watch them over and over and that
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"south park" is not matt and trey's best creation ..a lot of people have mentione BASEketball (which they only acted in..this has been pointed out many times by now so one would think it would start to sink in) and Cannibal the Musical (which they filmed in college one year during spring break..what were some of YOU doing during your spring break) and orgazmo..which they also made before this whole south park thing..but the truth is matt and trey have a plethora of other stuff that most people have never seen..its good stuff too..if you are one of the fortunate people to have seen "your studio and you" for example..than you know what i am talking about..if the truth be known i'm not all that worried about matt and trey if south park soon comes to an end..they do have talent (whether you like it or not) and they will continue to make some people laugh and irritate and disgust everyone else for some years to come..
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I can see why people hate this. They think that all this swearing and stuff is bad for children. Wel get this, most children already know every cuss word alive at early ages. They can get this stuff from a lot of places like the internet and movies(Parents neglect is bringing more and more children into R rated movies). So their is no use in going into South Park teaching kids bad language. Another thing is that people are concerned about the violence. If you want violence out of your life then you better start fast. 1st: throw out your TV set, pratially everything on TV is or has been involved in some kind of violence. 2nd: Don't subscribe to anything, newspapers have some violence in them and so do most other stuff. There is pratically no way to get away from violence and bad language. Don't get me wrong, I think everyone is also entitled to their oppinon and I respect that, but before you start blaming tv shows or movies or even games for encourging this stuff, look at the basics and then decide.
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In my point of view South Park is the funniest thing on T.V.
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I must say that some of SP's recent episodes have been a little dumb but it is still an
hilarious show.It still makes me laugh my head off and most of my friends and family as well. But for everyone who hates the show and thinks the movie will suck, its very simple. You dont have to watch it or pay to see it in the theatres. So quit bitching about how much you dislike it. No ones forcing you to. As for me I think it is a great show. -
OK - I'll admit it. I'm 29, a mom with a young child to watch out for, and I'm Canadian. And I adore South Park. I still can't bring myself to take my Chef Aid CD out of my car. If South Park ever ends - I hope that the creators go on to bigger and better things.
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sp is one of the best tv-shows ever !!
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I do see the point with some of your comments about the movie... I don't agree with some of these responces though. The creators of this show have done a great thing to television, and making this movie was a good move on thier part. This movie has a great message that all parents should pay attention to. Most parents disreguard this show , and write it off as a sick cartoon made by perverts... but have you actually watched the movie and seen what it is saying?? Parents should listen to thier children, and not look for a deeper meaning in what their children do... Stop blaming the creators of this show for you childrens flaws... every time I went to see this movie ( 3 ) there was a set of 2 or more children under 10 accompanied by thier parents... I don't agree with the parents decision to bring thier kids and I hope they are ready for the consequences. And as for your bashing of the musical numbers, I think you seriously need to take a look at them again, they are well orchestrated, don't listen to the words, listen to the music, they are something to be admired... the movie has the makings of an actual broadway musical, minus most of the jokes, and language... but you get my point. If there's a comment or problem with what I've said... feel free to email me at
squirrel@dvnc.net
thanks
Jay
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