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THE INCREDIBLE HULK smashes online with furious anger...
Hey folks, Harry here... Very shortly I'll be introducing a screening of THE INCREDIBLE HULK on June 4th with Louis Leterrier, Tim Roth, Gale Anne Hurd and Kevin Feige all attending... And we've got some great ALAMO style fun to be had at that event... but I'm not quite ready to start that up yet. Meanwhile - today - we've had 3 clips from THE INCREDIBLE HULK hit online. My favorite is this clip that YAHOO got. It's HULK beating the teeth out of ABOMINATION with... well you should watch it. It's hardcore.
Then there's this one from IGN - where HULK fights Pre-Abom / Super Soldier Serum Injected Tim Roth:
Then as a follow-up clip to that is this clip that MTV debuted today. One of the key things that we're seeing here is that the HULK is thinking about what he does, before he does it. And is making use of his environment... savagely. I really like that! And I can't wait to see this sucker!
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May 23, 2008 6:28:54 PM CDT
thats what i want to see in a superman movie
by lloyd bonafide the korean war veteran
sadly, we get him lifting stuff.
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I gotta say that street fight sold me. I wanna see shit get broke. I hope the sound is good too. I want thunder with every footstep.
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the action is top notch.. I can hear Michael Bay fapping in envy even now
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news at 11. ha.
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Not that that it means anything. I can watch bad effects if the story is good.
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Thank fuck for that.
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Might this thing ACTUALLY be good? Roth fight and Abomination fight both impressed me. With Ironman and Hulk, it's nice to see that some superheroes actually bleed. Yes, I'm calling you out Peter Parker...you lil vag you!!!
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Almost...not better than Hulk...
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May 23, 2008 6:40:15 PM CDT
So is that how we can expect Captain America to fight?
by blindambition238
Looks about right.
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looks cheesy as hell. This might be a video rental.
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That looks like a lot of Matrix moves...and that Hulk, horrible...
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Come on, this movie will suck...it already does with that scene, worse than McLane jumping 'the plane' in Die Hard 4.0...
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In defense of this new hulk I have nothing but a good drinking pic. How's the happening going on right now Harry?
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HOLY HULK NUTS!!!
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That voice is straight demonic, but it suits him.
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May 23, 2008 6:50:31 PM CDT
the look they went with for this incarnation of hulk...
by jimmyjoe redsky
is silly - "hey, lets make hulk kinda handsome and lean... with a hip haircut... the 18-34 crowd will love it" - ang lee's hulk looks so much better - and he actually looked like "the hulk" - now that ive seen these clips i have to ask, why was this movie needed?
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Marvel figured out that the first Hulk movie was pretty lame. So they threw out the garbage and went back and started all over, this time doing it right. WB will make another Superman movie just as stupid as Superman Returns, in an attempt to prove why they were right the first time.
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Must he be mute? Can they not have him say anything? Without Hulk displaying some intelligence he's sorta a non character. I mean I could care less about Banner.
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Cool enough. First things I've seen by the movie that make me want to see it, really.
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But only a few times, I guess to not make it so goofy with constant dialouge of "Hulk feel this, Hulk feel that."
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Tony Stark is in this film. BadASS! Back on topic, I think the CG of when Abom says "Is that all you've got" is spot-on perfect with regards to the facial movement.
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...in the clip where he fights Hulk. So his superhuman fighting skills are explained in that context. I was shitting on this movie after the first trailer, but I thought this all looked well-choreographed and shot, and the attitude was spot on.
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Little Hulky is THINKING.. How adorable. And making use of his surroundings too! They grow up so fast
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Starting to look better.
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Why everyone is dumping on this fucker is beyond me. It looks great, bad ass villian, cgi looks fine to me, acting is strong. roles look well cast. Hey sign me up. all the fanboy fags tore up indy 4 for months and its bad ass by most acconts. (havent seen it yet, but will soon)
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his acting looks cheesy, not the fight or the effects.looks like a foregone conclusion that abomination's gonna resort to lame one-liners at the end, like iron monger did.the cgi does look worse and more jarringly out of place than the first movie's. how's that possible? can suspend disbelief for that tho.
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Why are most CGI movie fight scenes sooo fast? I can't tell what's going on half the time. Worst perp of this was Transformers--I had no clue who was smacking who and how.
Just slow it down a bit.
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wheres benjamin button?!?!?!? my mancrush on brad is complete
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Remember Edward Norton is having nothing to do with this. Does not bode well.
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i mean i was going to see it anyway, but then im a comic dork. i think the success of iron man is making people forget about the "hey didnt they just do a hulk movie?" and get more excited about ..hey..comic book movies are getting pretty cool. and as much as i liked the x-men movies, if marvel starts getting things right, i would love an x-men redo also. yeah it sounds cheesy to start redoing all of the movies, but they do that shit in comics all the time. actually i take that back, before redoing the x-men movies, redo spiderman.. i can believe those movies are revered by so many, while 'haters' seem to be the only distractors..the spiderman movies were not good. in fact, ill go as far to say spiderman 3 wasnt even the worst in the bunch..they were all pretty bad. there were way to many parts that made me groan in all three of them... spiderman 1- when he's fighting green goblin on the bridge and the people starting throwing garbage at him saying "youse mess wit spidey, youse mess wit all us new yawkahs!"..that shit was worse than the disco peter parker scene in 3 that gets so much vitriol. and the worst thing about all the spider man movies.. there were no real bad guys, and spiderman never really beats the bad guy .. green goblin was a good guy driven mad by his 'formula' and the only way spiderman beats him is by jumping out of the way of GG's own sled..lame. Doc oct was a good guy driven mad by the robotic arms, and the only way spiderman beats him is that doc oct 'wakes up' and kills himself..lame. Sandman was a 'goodhearted' criminal that was driven to steal for his family, and he pretty much gives up at the end of three.. in fact, the only real bad guy in the movies..venom.. is the guy who should have been the misunderstood character, driven mad by his skewed view of 'justice'. at least spiderman actually fights and beats venom in 3, which he wasnt able to do in spiderman 1 or 2 (which is probably why i didnt hate 3 as much as everyone else.) but all three of them were just not fun. get peter's emo, sad, rough life bullshit out of the way in part 1, then have some fun with him.. thats why so many people came to love the spiderman comic. ugh, i know i went off on way too many tangents, but i felt like venting. i just really hope marvel keeps up the good work they started with iron man.
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Is it just me or does the Hulk CGI seem to look even worse than the Ang Lee Hulk CGI? This movie better have a great story you can really sink into because that Hulk looks just awful.
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You guys wrote "Super Soldier" in the article. Is that because he happens to be jumping around like we would expect serum-taking Captain America to jump around? Or is Tim Roth's character totally human, and we're just supposed to believe he can actually do that serum-free? I know it's a comic book movie, but no one expects a human to hop around like a superhero, elite soldier or not. That was some straight-up Matrix rip-off shit, and unless he's enhanced, it's stupid. Maybe if you had an actor known for kung-fu stuff, we'd suspend disbelief like Jackie Chan or even Van Damme...but not Bob the Bellhop, Tim Roth.
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doc ock..oops..what kind of a comic geek am i?
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But Hulk will be far superior to Indy 4! But this will probably be a let down too! Come on Nolan your my only hope left! save us from the shitfest movies that are making us all wonder why we pay to see the crap they put on the screen these days! I know you can do it Nolan!
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the inclusion of the super soldier serum in the plot should help to flesh out the Marvel Universe even more!
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well either of them. why the hell do his pants never get ripped to shit?? and where is brad-jemin button?
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Just added this to my "MUST SEE" list!!!
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He could at least show up, even if he didnt get his way. Movie looks fine, what it needs is a trailer like that russian Wanted trailer.
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Hulk design is so much cooler than previous massive lump
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The trailer looks promising but Hulk looks live he stepped out of that final fantasy advent children movie. He doesn't look "real" enough. and does the fucker finally get to talk. Leave the mute shit to snake eyes I wanna hear "Puny humans, Hulk smash"!!
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But the action on diplay here appears inventive, bad ass, and in good supply. And the guy talking about "real bad guys" (ie, unrealistic evil for evil's sake just so the good guy can bust em up) suck. If you can both empathize with them/believe their role and acknowledge they need to get whats coming to them they are a far more well crafted villain.
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there has never been a good superman movie. i know some of you want to yell, SUPERMAN 1 AND 2! but they're not good either. Maybe superman 1 was passable, but go rewatch superman 2. it survives being loved in the same way a lot of movies from our childhood survives.. i didnt think ewoks sucked back in 83, but now i can admit, yeah, they were made to sell toys. (and i had all of them, i remember being the first kid around the have the ewok figures, that was cool) anyway (i have a problem with tangents) superman 2 did have some good parts, but the bad parts were REAL bad. i mean REAL bad. (and do go only blaming richard lester.. donner's version had just as many things wrong with it) but jesus, the forgetting kiss? the giant growing celeophane "s" crest from his chest? shit.
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if not, then I don't buy "normal human" Roth as Neo.
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no YOU suck. (said in an over-the-top-way on purpose, because jesus..name calling?) so you think every bad guy should have a 'good' reason for turning bad? yeah i can see it a few times.. but EVERY time? fuck, these are comic book movies. im not saying they should be stupid, but fantasy stories like these survive because people are drawn to, and enjoy fantasic tales of good against evil. not 'good against the misunderstood person driven mad, or to desperate measures by society' ESPECIALLY not three fucking times in a row.
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But 40-50 years from now, directors and writers will STILL be using Donner's Superman: The Movie as a reference. He really made some magic there. But I am all for new Supes as long as Singer is not attached. Anyway, back to the Hulk, why is Norton sulking again? He was all about being in this and was proud of it, now he is sulking? I missed something. Damn vodka.
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seems to think he must still be working with Jason Statham. Is there some reason 40+ year old Tim Roth does a cartwheel flip, can avoid getting hit by the hulk... repeatedly, and then get kicked fifty feet by a foot that could smash a tank and walk away with little more than a couple of broke ribs. BULLS@#*!
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Hulk slowly suffocates and dies! Superman flies over earth and smiles. Roll credits!
Superman 1 is the best superhero film of all time Hands down.
Superman 2 is pretty good too!
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carnage would be the 'misunderstood' serial killer. (not that sam raimi would ever do carnage, because he doesnt 'understand' characters like venom..as he's said so himself in countless interviews before spiderman 3... my take, if a studio is giving you MILLIONS to make a film, and have a whole giant franchise depending on it, take some fucking time, do a little reading, talk to the fanboys, and MAKE yourself understand him.)
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...and Supes would own the Hulk after about 30 minutes.
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sorry, im using this talk back for my soapbox, but only because i care.. if you think im full of shit, then dont read my rants.. BUT, while it might be easy to say, i really believe Batman Begins is the best superhero movie made yet. with Iron Man a close second. I dont agree with the detractors who say, "you only like it because he tried to make it 'real.'" It's not that. he put it in a 'real' setting (like iron man did) and made a wonderful story in that setting. thats what comics do, thats why people love comics. in 'real' life people dont have awesome gadgets and dress up like bats to fight crime, so its not 'real.' at the same time it doesnt patronize comic fans by making a 'fake' fantasy world. chris nolan understood that.
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fine, i'll answer my own godamn question. hulk's pants never get ripped off cuz his giant green dick would get tangled in his fat fucking green feet and he'd probably crush the shit out of it, forever rendering him sterile and leaving him with nothing more than a penis that would look like a hot dog when you put it in the microwave for too long and the end explodes. and norton is pissed cuz he realized that no one wants to tackle the real problems of the movie like this. you give me and ed some real life hulk nuts, and we'll go see the movie.
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Avarage superhero movie. although better than daredevil wich might be better than Indy 4
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yeah, you're right, (no sarcasm)i should give donner more credit for creating that world in the first place. at the time he was closer than anyone else has ever gotten. okay.. superman 1 doesnt suck (even with the flying around the world and turning back time part..uh.. come on, it kind of sucks for that.)
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just kidding i'll still see this.
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the simple answer is, the hulk's pants dont rip because in all comic book stories you need to have a level a suspension of disbelief. nobody really turns into a giant green monster from exposure to gamma rays. unfortunately you need to add another layer of disbelief to this, because nobody wants to see that giant green monster's giant green dick hanging out the whole time.sorry if thats too literal, but yeah, it's time to just accept the fact that the hulk will always have magic jeans.
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while im monopolizing this talkback (i apologize, i swear im reading everything else poeple are writing) im gonna make another controversial statement.. the Daredevil director's cut.. not that bad. not great, but ive seen worse. better than the punisher and his 'goofy-you-go-now!-john-pinette-hack-stand-up-comic' neighbors.
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May 23, 2008 8:04:58 PM CDT
If I had a green 2 foot dick I would want my pants to rip off
by thenipplesofgod
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I bet you love one thing about Supes 1: John Williams' score. ;)
Back to the the big green man, I used to complain about lack of media or advertising for this thing. But they have really made up for lost time with these clips. Iron Man had a huge leg up though with even a teaser in the last Super Bowl. I just hope the word gets out and there is enough hype in time for some big returns, leading to more Hulk. I want this to succeed. -
I get the idea that the Hulk gets a lot more pissed off and a shit load bigger and stronger. Fucking brilliant, Marvel Studios is the future!!
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i used to run around in a fake cape pretending to be superman humming the superman theme. in fact, i used to pretend i was indiana jones while humming the indy there.. and the star wars theme.. well, thats a given. it kind of goes without saying..john williams is a God.maybe he should fight the hulk.
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...an Alamo screening guarantees that there is no way Bowles won't like it. Even if he has to spend ten paragraphs fawning over the end credits, by god, he'll step up and do it.
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Makes me respect the work done on Ang Lee's Hulk even more. Suppose it's largely budgetary...
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while looking up the punisher to make sure i spelled 'john pinette's' name correct, i came upon pictures of Laura Harring (she plays john travolta's wife in the movie) damn..she's 43/44 in this pic http://tinyurl.com/5fd7a6 damn.
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Fincher and Pitt, together again! So fucking awesome.
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Seriously i can't believe there's some people thinking he's meant to be a normal human who can do super flips, we've heard enough about the film to know that Roth is given some cheap version of the super soldier serum, that's the entire reason they send him in alone to fight the hulk 'cos he's super serumed.
Anyway these clips have completely sold me, a film i wasn't that bothered about just shot up my list of films to see. Love that we'll get to see a super soldier up against hte hulk. -
but then again i said that about the original one.crossing fingers...toes....nose hairs..etc..etc.
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Still have yet to see anything that makes me want to see this. Banner gets angry...HULK SMASH...interlude...Banner gets angry...HULK SMASH. Yawn!
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Its JUST A MOVIE. A freakin' movie made from a kids comic book. Lighten up. Looks fun to me.
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Early Hulk cartoon, probably from the 60's. Fawning over Silver Age art.Bixby/Ferrigno Hulk episode, most likely the one where Hulk fights the "other" Hulk.Ferrigno will appear, possibly in Hulk makeup just to make an ass out of him.Harry will reiterate the "I met Lou in Hulk makeup when I was a youngin" story for the twentieth time.Letterier will spout a few geek words that will be highlighted for credentials.Finally, Harry's review will somehow, someway, bend over backwards to favorably compare Ang's Hulk and Norton's which will verify what the doctors found out this week - Harry has no spine, making him a mutant from the genus homo sapien jellyfish, a species that flees from making judgments like bats do from light.This has the promise of being a cluster of Godzilla proportions.
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Roth looks like he's moving on wires (which he is, but which shouldn't be apparent). Cap'n A should move in a way we haven't seen before. Cross gunkata with Daredevil with Spiderman with the Mach 5 and that's how Steve Rogers should move. Like a frickin superhero. Not like a wire-fu wushu dude and not in "dramatic" slow-mo.
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Have any of you "haters" in here ever even read a comic book?? The dialog is so insanely cheesy and over-the-top 90 percent of the time it is ridiculous, and almost always the villian spouts off lame-ass one-liners during the final battle. As for the CGI, having done a shitload of VFX work myself, I would pay to see any of you 'experts' do a better job than what's being done here. It looks damn good. And that Hulk-Abomination fight looks seriously kick-ass! Man...I feel like there are only 5 other people on this site that understand these little facts...
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i really would have loved to be a fly on the wall at the marvel studios meeting where someone said, "you know, people seem to like these movies, and they're making some money..lets quit being assholes and start to inject some continuity in these." that being said.. i read (in this talkback, so who knows the validity) that ed norton is distancing himself from this flick..is that true? i mean.. i dont want this continuity to get messed up already by some actor cheeseing out already.
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The skin of Hulk anyway. Oh well, I do like the action choreography -- and of course, like the predictable geek that I am, I'll be there on opening day. Sigh. I'm such a cliche.
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the fuckers at paramount are quick. i missed that trailer by mere seconds. and you know you've been suckin down waaaay too much hulk jizz if you think the ang lee version was anything but a giant steaming pile of meadow green hulk shit. poor bana. LONG LIVE HECTOR
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I didn't "hate" the Ang Lee Hulk like a lot of people, but I did agree that 1/2 of it was boring as fuck. This looks like a cool rush of Hulk-smashing badness. Gotta have more action than the Lee "artsy-fartsy" Hulk.
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gamma rays are like steroids, they shrink the hulks peen
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The production design, not the CGI, is what's killing this for me. All of these locations are vague and anonymous (i.e. Canada). They could be fighting anywhere. There's nothing visually interesting or inventive about the design of the sets, shots, anything.
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I've been an animator for 14 years and if there's one thing that they have been getting wrong in the last 20 CGI movies like this it's a sense of WEIGHT.
Having those two massive character move like fucking ninjas on meth completely kills the sense of realism. Slow that shit down.
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...about seeing this movie are gone.
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I second that -- though one team that seems to have gotten it right is Weta Digital. Those giant elephants FELT heavy. Shit, Gollum had more mass than Hulk.
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in the bedroom. Who has it the hardest? Betty? or Lois? What happens if Bruce gets angry while in the act? You've all read the article about supes losing muscle control at climax.
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Tim Roth fight Edward Norton than that CGI bullsh*t.
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was sort of resigned to it being mediocre. After these clips I'm a little more interested, but not convinced. Action is sort of ho-hum. So far, the best cinematic Hulk is the very first Ang Lee trailer. Remember with Bruce looking in the mirror? And he says "what scares me the most, is that when I really lose control, I like it." And then it's a cut to the exploding house--THAT's the story in the Hulk.
It's OK. Went into Iron Man with low expectations and was pleasantly suprised. I won't see it a second time, but I had a good time while I was there. Expect pretty much the same with Hulk
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it was a good movie. The problem was the nostalgia for Donner--made us all wish the movie were the Superman III that Donner never made. I think the next one Singer makes will be good.
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That's about as much as I'll be seeing of that movie.
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name a few things you liked about superman returns.. im just curious.. here, ill start you off.. 'that saving the jet scene was pretty cool'.. okay, sorry i took that one.. now you continue..
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I think everyone will be seeing TDK. Not just us fans, but everyone. Both Downey Jr. and Favs said in like 3 separate interviews that they modeled their approach off of Batman Begins. People tracking "how comic-to-film success is done" are going to want to see how the Nolan guy does Part II - ESPECIALLY with that now stressing expectation that part 2's of comic film's series are normally the best. They may not admit it, but EVERYONE will be watching TDK.
But hey I hope it delivers, like I hope Hulk delivers. I want all comics films to be done well and provide the goods; to become timeless classics like Superman 1 and.. Batman Begins. yeah, i ain't scared of the BB detractors, though their right to dislike it is fine with me. -
Hulk smash puny Roth.
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Most CGI creatures composited into live action scenes tend to look fake, not so much due to the lighting and rendering, but instead because they seem to move too fast and in unrealistic ways.
I'm no CGI expert, but I believe it's to cut costs to save a few bucks (less frames to create and render) and to hide some flaws that we would otherwise have time to examine if they were to move slower.
If you need proof, just watch a nature show and the way large animals like rhinos and elephants move. Because of their size, even when they're running full tilt, they lumber around and aren't very nimble.
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there, although not in English and in sucky Youtube quality.
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but it looks REALLY REALLY MEDIOCRE. Better than Indy? HA HA fucking ha. Now I see where you Indy 4 haters are coming from, the land of retarded retards.
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any ideas why i can never get the yahoo links to work? they do on other sites. every other link seems to work on aicn.
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any ideas why i can never get the yahoo links to work? they do on other sites. every other link seems to work on aicn.
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wasn't that the highlight of the last hulk video game? or was it also in a comic before that?
either way, still nothing blowing me away.
why all the punching? i'd grab abominations face and gouge his eyes out, and rip his jaw open king kong style.
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Let me guess, they're casting Keanu Reeves for that one.
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Cartoons and people!!! What was that horrible wire flip? I rarely post when I have something negative to say but that was BAD.
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Chishu_Ryu
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Just can't produce any interest in this. Don't know why.
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May 23, 2008 10:45:02 PM CDT
"youse mess wit spidey, youse mess wit all us new yawkahs!"
by j-dizzle
NEW CATCHPHRASE!!!!!!!
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...sticking out of it. If you see this movie, please don't admit it.
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My thoughts exactly.Who writes this crap dialogue, and who okays it? I know it's a comic book movie, but...come on. Is that all they've got?
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Actually got me excited about not only the HULK film (which I've been poo-pooing until seeing that clip), but more importantly, the Captain America film coming down the pipe!THAT'S how I'd love to see Cap move in a fight with the Hulk: ducking, flipping, sweeping and pretty much being an agile pain-in-the-butt, all the while planning exactly how he's gonna take Banner down.Granted, I'd expect Cap to look much BETTER than Roth, due to his training, but that clip gave me the first real hope that Marvel's plan to tie these films coherently together might actually be box-office genius! :)They'd better just include some line in the film about how Roth's Super-Soldier serum was first used during WWII, but the original formula (and its subject) were subsequently lost...
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Hope the rest is good.
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May 23, 2008 11:26:06 PM CDT
Would've paid for a sequel to Ang Lee's HULK...
by premiere warlord bush
But not for this.
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and the real hulk woulda crushed his puny skull...marvel needs to give up on this franchise...they cant get it right
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@gotham_night:
Well, the Handgun depends on the Technology, it uses.
If you would happen to use that Gun from the Anime Outlaw Star, the Hero is using, then it would do some damage.
But since he won't get such a thing, the Handgun was seemingly only for distraction or he was simply in despair, trying to use everything he has.
However, Hulk seems quite more intelligent in these Clips, than he ever was before, therefore it could work that way, that Bruce might be getting some slight Control over his AlterEgo - well, at least, he might Control who to attack...
Well, also I hate those "the CGI looks Crappy"-Annoyances. - Yes, we know, that CGI-Humans still look like CGI, even tough the Makers intended to make it look like real.
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May 24, 2008 12:04:48 AM CDT
I'M MIGHTY SICK O HEARIN ABOUT THESE Q&A SESSIONS AND . . .
by filmrage
. . . and not getting to see them. Don't you film them even if you can't vid the actuall screening. Put a link to them on youtube or something so we can all see them.
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I'm holding you to that.. i better read that somewhere else.
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hulk punching the car with fists that are stronger than metal, creating metal boxing gloves instead of using his own stronger-than-metal fists against abomination?? grurrh that was fine in the video game but just stupid here. speaking of gruurh, how did i know abomination's voice would come straight out of the "Creature FX Turbo 3.0" software program. and that pathetic scene with liv tyler asking, mystified, "bruuce??" eh yea bruce was also a big green monster back when you were jennifer connelly so the delivery of that line is shite too. funny i see her, i think a weaker connelly, i see hurt and i think a weaker elliot. this movie will be as enjoyable as a cold bag of vomit.
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without having read any spoilers, i can tell you that this scene is after emil blonsky is injected with super hulk serum. he just hasnt changed into the abomination yet, but cleary he is way more badass than a regualar human.
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http://tinyurl.com/46l4wl...http://tinyurl.com/3jkwrj
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That is actually how I thought some one on the super soldier serum would move. Hmmm? Is Marvel fuckin' with me!?! First a totally competent Iron Man (realy? IRON MAN!?! Who the hell ever thought that'd get a big budget treatment) and this actually makes me wanna see a Hulk movie again.
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14 yrs ? and ur posting on here why ? cuz ur a out of work, cant hack it animator ? or maybe u have an etch-a-sketch animator ...u people make me laugh, im an animator, im a screenwriter, im an actor.... the only sense of weight in question is how much u weigh from all the pizza and beer u chug in your moms basement while u play with ur etch a sketch.... hahahah
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alright. It looks a lot better than IJ4.
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Yes?
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Dunno where the hate is coming from. This is what Hulk is supposed to be like.
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will be okay. Better than Daredevil and Punisher.
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Apparently there's a scene where Ross tells Blonsky about a project in the 40's dealing with a Super Soldier Serum and they inject him with it, he hits Hulk but not enough, so they go further and incorporate the Gamma Rays that made Banner Hulk out...da-hoy.
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sorry has to be said but the CGI is nowhere near the standard set by Ang Lee. If they dont soprt it out before release then they are fucked!
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Hate to say it, but Superman would kick the crap out of the Hulk and even has a few times.Let's just look at pure strength, per the Marvel Guide Books the Hulk can lift around 250 tons on a good day...The Superman Sourcebook (post-Crisis) says that Superman maxes out at approx 800,000 tons. He can move a small planet. And if we're talking pre-crisis Superman than forget it, that dude would only get a headache from an A-bomb and could will himself through time. If it's the 1938 Superman, than Hulk might have him...as the height of his strenght is depicted on the cover of Action Comics 1 lifting a car.I'm gonna go make love to my wife!
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But now I'm kind of looking forward to this - what the hell is Blomsky that he can move like that??
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this is actually looking like it might be OK!! There is a definite tone in this that suits the Marvel universe much better. Yes the CGI isnt thrilling, but then the CGI in the Iron Man trailers was dubious also..who knows, in context it might be fine.
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Anyone preferring Ang Lee's movie or even his look of the Hulk over this one simply doesn't know diddly Squat about the Hulk, how he's supposed to look or how he's supposed to act. Ang Lee gave those guys a "lost & confused child" looking green guy and had him get mildly upset a few times with an unforgettable fight with a pitbull, a bulldog and a Poodle.. :( THIS IS THE HULK AS HE IS IN THE COMICS! The rage, the destruction, the rampaging beast. We have a proper opponent and we even have the introduction of their attempts to replicate the Super-soldier serum that made Captain America. We have everything a Hulk movie should have had and more, yet people are focusing on the level of CGI reality rather than on the actual film!!! Well sorry CGI-spotters but there are not Poodles for you to cross off your reality check list this time around, just a good Hulk film we the fans have deserved for a long bloody time. And finally, no level of CGI is gonna make a huge green guy look real, you have to bring something to a fantasy movie and that something is an open mind. For christ sake just get over that Ang Lee presentation and let it go, it was not a fair representation of the character, his world or the comic anyway near as this movie will be. Either Prepare to get a true insight into the Hulk or keep your heads in the sand while the rest of us enjoy the bloody movie!
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That was demonstrated in World War Hulk when the Sentry (basically Marvel's version of Superman) was ALMOST able to beat the Hulk, but lost in the end.
Also, Brians Life-- You're wrong. Hulk's strength is not "250 tons on a good day", but as listed in the Official Marvel Wiki:
"The Hulk possesses an incredible level of superhuman physical ability. His capacity for physical strength is potentially limitless due to the fact that the Hulk's strength increases proportionally with his level of great emotional stress, anger in particular."
So while Superman DOES have an upper limit to his strength, The Hulk doesn't. The more Superman hurts him, the stronger Hulk gets.
During the Secret Wars, the "Professor" version of the Hulk (Banner's mind in Hulk's body) was able to hold up an entire mountain, and THAT was the absolute WEAKEST version of the Hulk there is! The non-angry, Banner-mind wasn't able to reach anywhere near the levels of strength, speed, and endurance the savage Hulk can muster.
The savage Hulk isn't completely stupid, though. I picture the battle raging for days, with the Hulk never tiring and Superman trying desperately to avoid civilian casualties, but lamenting the fact that nothing he does seems to hurt the Hulk. Finally, Superman would hit his limit...
You see, Superman DOES require energy to fuel his powers. Solar energy, to be exact. When he expels a lot of power he needs to recharge. If he can't recharge, he loses his powers and eventually falls unconscious and then comatose, into a hibernation-recharge state. This is what happened when Doomsday "killed" Superman, and then the people of Earth were stupid and buried the Man of Steel where he couldn't easily absorb the sun's rays.
After his energy started to wane, the Hulk would continue to hit Superman with heavy objects, and all it would take would be dropping a mountain or skyscraper on him when he needs to recharge, and Superman would be down for the count.
The Hulk has no such upper limit. He just keeps getting stronger, more damage-resistant, more durable, and more dangerous. Superman MIGHT be able to win if he can knock the hell out of the Hulk with the first few punches, but if he holds back AT ALL in the first critical moments of the fight, Superman will lose.
He only won in the "Marvel vs. DC" books because it was a stipulation of the collaboration: Superman was not allowed to lose his fights. (neither was Batman, Spider-Man, or a few other "tentpole" characters.)
In an honest contest, the Hulk would beat the Man of Steel-- Although I'd wager that he'd be pretty beat up by the end of it.
Now, Doctor Strange, on the other hand, would beat Superman almost immediately. Superman is as vulnerable to magic as anyone else, and Doctor Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme of this dimension. It would be a slaughter. Superman would have to cry out for Dr. Fate to help him, and Fate's not particularly interested in helping ANYONE if it doesn't suit him or affect the multiverse in some spectacular way. -
Ang Lee's Hulk is the Hulk for people who never read the comics or cared about the character before. I think the people who worship that trainwreck of a movie are just rabid Ang Lee fans who cannot admit that their idol could make a bad movie.
I personally hate most of Ang Lee's movies. I think they're all pretentious pieces of fluff for the arthouse crowd to ooh and ahh over.
Since I don't have role-colored glasses in regards to Ang Lee's career, I see his Hulk as the atrocity it is. Boring, preachy, slow, ridiculous, uninteresting and just plain balmy. It displays all the love for the character of someone who only ever watched the TV show, and thought they could improve it with more back-story about Banner's life before being the Hulk.
See, the comic is called "The Incredible Hulk" and not "Bruce Banner's Whiny Tales of Being an Unloved Child Before He Finally Turned Green and Fought Some Green Dogs."
I swear, it's like Ang Lee read Dave Pelzer's "A Child Called 'It'" and decided that he'd make his Hulk movie based on that book's premise and general sullen feel.
The Hulk isn't supposed to be a sullen sad-sack who bemoans his childhood. He's a brilliant scientist who takes the whole Jeckyl & Hyde idea way too far, and becomes a weapon of mass destruction in the process. -
so the copyright says it's only good enough for america to see the clip? fucking bs.
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Who honestly believes Superman's going to get into a boxing match with the Hulk? Superman's smarter than the Hulk, and has a wider range of ways to use his powers.The whole Doomsday matchup was retarded since they intended to have Superman get killed right from the outset. If they had tried to stay honest with the character, Superman should've emerged all right from that.Also, Superman was pressed for time in trying to save civilians from Doomsday. The Hulk isn't as rabid about killing civiilans.I can easily see him tricking the Hulk into a position where he can just throw him off the planet, into the sun, wherever. Hulk isn't completely a dumb brute, but compared to Superman (or most other heroes), he might as well be.Hell, Supes may even bring out Betty and stop fighting the Hulk himself. Call off the army, whoever, and Hulk calms down and turns back into Banner. Conflict resolved in line with Supes' principles.Not to mention we know what happened when they did actually fight.And within the Marvel Universe, Thor and Silver Surfer could take down Hulk. Strength wise, it's the same deal. He can kick ass in a fist-fight, but those two have such a wider range of ways to use their abilities. And I'm pretty sure Surfer can take anything the Hulk could possibly dish out. When you start getting into the cosmic characters, Hulk's at a distinct disadvantage.I wonder if there's clips of that Hulk TV movie guest-starring Thor online anywhere.
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geeks...
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From Wizard #70 (1997):
http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm
Not taking into account the insane number of metaphysical/cosmic/abstract beings/entities in the Marvel Universe. -
When you dick get hit with radiation and you change into a 10 foot green 1000 pound man your dick shrinks to 2 centimeters long, it's common math, that's how the pants work
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10) Hulk
09) Firestorm
08) Professor X
07) Spawn
06) Dr. Strange
05) Flash (I was surprised by this)
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why does the hulk need boxing gloves?
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Harry, can you ask Gale Anne Hurd when we'll be getting a proper DVD release of The Abyss? Perhaps next year for the 20th Anniversary?
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I was sort of meh on the trailer. Than saw the trailer before Iron Man and was impressed. Now I see these clips and yeah this looks like it will be a fun. Oh and fuck Indy IV. Garbage.
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Check out those tippy-toed acrobatic skiils. That's not a soldier's moves- that's a man in tights hired to be Tim Roth's stunt double.
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When the guy was jumping around....on wires???.....SURELY NOT
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in my opinion you got that observation backwards - ang lee's hulk felt and looked like a silver age marvel hulk comic - back when (stan) lee would wright scripts and kirby or buscema would draw - the stories would teeter on deep and operatic - like ang lee's movie (cheesy as it may be, it mirrored the cheese of the comics during their heyday) - and the hulk in ang lee's movie looked like the hulk i remember and the hulk i prefer - not some slim handsome green bodybuilder with a cool haircut and big hands and feet - this new one is is just the tv show plus the pizazz of later or current hulk comics (which are way more stylized and over the top as far as drawing and set pieces go... "world war hulk") - i genuinely like ang lee's hulk, while i acknowledge what others dont like about it - its those very things that make it a great comic book movie (for comic book readers, like me) - this new one will have lots and lots of action and fights etc. - it will be dizzyingly kinetic - like most summer genre movies, "speed racer" - but thats about it - doesnt it strike anyone else here as a bad sign that the movies writer , star and former spokesman has all but abandoned it? - did the studio panic when they saw norton's favored cut? - "oh no... more pathos and character development... like the last one" - snip snip - something tells me this will be all sound and fury and not much else - i hope im wrong and im pleasantly surprised - but so far, from everything ive seen and heard, it feels like a studios attempt to cash in rather than deliver something original and memorable (like, imo, hulk 2003)
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that this, their movie, is greatly influenced by the old bixby tv show... watch the comicon interviews - the tv show's theme "the lonely man" is even hinted at in the movie's score - ang lee's hulk was all comic book (back when they were cool, imo) - the only connection to the tv series in hulk 2003 is the cameo by ferrigno - so, ZeroCorpse, you are wrong on the point of inspiration and influence for either hulk movie
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superman would win... all he wuld have to do is get the hulk in orbit... zero g and air... then fly him to the sun and let the sun's gravity do the rest
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actually looks pretty sweet. Well done action, imo the best part is *you can actually follow the action* instead of it being a blurry, noisy ADD mess of camera work.
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One supersonic flight into deep sapce later, Hulk no breathe. Hulk die.
This movie looks like a 2 bucket special. Ya gotta cram yer hole with poppycorn to get yer mind off the effects. But the actors are into it, and the Hulk looks plenty pissed, so I'm there without hesitation. Let's go M Studios. 2 fer 2. -
which is a mediocre Effects company. the direction is pretty damn good as is the physics of abomination and hulk, the way they move, but the lighting is completely off. Weta should have done this, they're the only ones who can do big organic CGI like Hulk and make it look real.
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finally a hulk smash movie!
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I didn't see your post above, but that's exactly how to do it. Thought the same thing. Cheers
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not a good superman movie and not a good movie. Superman 1 was half a real good movie then half a joke. And superman 2 is just awful.
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Not a bad way to go. Embrace it. People loved it world wide.
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Tim Roth??? doing wire fu???
From that one clip this looks utterly stupid.
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Maybe at the final screening he had a revelation that Ang Lee got it right the first time? Maybe he realized that this movie, whose script he worked so diligently on, has degenerated into a senseless fanboy action movie for the masses?
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Could be a nice popcorn movie, but it's a really bad script.
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...and yeah, that does look like wire fu he's doing. Can we get a bullet time shot, too? I bet we will. This is the sort of weak derivative shit you'll get with a hack director like Leterrier or whatever his name is...
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ulk's muscles are only so big! There are rules of physics/biology to think about, for the Hulk at least, being of this world. Muscle size/weight ratio= lifting/leverage power, laws of mechanics etc etc, wtf do I know, I don't own a Nobel prize, but to say there is no upper limit for the Hulk is just obviously dumb. Geek rant over!
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May 24, 2008 5:59:33 AM CDT
I hope this is rated R, otherwise I don't give a damn.
by motoko kusanagi
I'm sick and fucking tired with all this PG-13 pc bullshit.
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Only way I could explain is exemplary heroism in that scene! A true, true American Freedom Lover! God bless! -Brought to you by Fox News.
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http://tinyurl.com/6k5cmn
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Sent out to all studios from universal. working with Ed Norton is asking for trouble. he will walk all over your film because he believes he has that right. which he doesnt. I understand that sometimes actors want and demand to see rushes, get script changes etc. I cant think of a single actor whos demands are as unprecendented as norton. demanding access to the editing suite? that is a new one to me. his demands for the final cut are notorious. we all remember tony kayes american history x. If this movie bombs and who can say really if it will or not. will this damage norton's career and will universal have to hire another actor. Will they want to work with him again. who knows.......
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Looking forward to this one - hope it delievers.
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May 24, 2008 6:50:32 AM CDT
actors as producers who have their production companies is
by emeraldboy
nothing new. and within that you can undertand how actors demand certain things. but norton is an odd one.
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When it is in fact their 3rd (maybe even their 4th) Man-Thing anyone???????????
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while this movie just has failed CGI.
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And fuck their lousy video player.
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It always amazes me when people say 'the CGI sucks'. My response, compared to what? A DRAWN picture of the Hulk? Would you rather have the King of Queen's neighbor painted green instead? I think when people post that the CGI sucks, they should include a scan of their Graphic Design diploma...
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marvel studio's wiki
http://tinyurl.com/63ttpk
and nope the ashcan films of the 90s aren't on that list b/c they didn't come from "marvel studios". they came from Neue Constantin Films. 1994's Fantastic Four cost a total of 1.4 million to make, shot in around 25 days, and not available on dvd. -
true, when people post their opinions here about something subjective like visual art, they should have to post their academic credentials.
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Good scene. Yet Hulk still looks too muddy. Not fleshy enough. Yet alot better than the original teaser. I do like seeing Hulk grab stuff and belt people with it.
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made me smile and think of Wet Hot American Summer's "You're doing it! You're really doing it!" I support any film where Tim Roth does anything. But where were these skills during that recent home invasion?
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Yes he was. From wikipedia: (Superman's creators) "Siegel and Shuster were both Jewish...
"Superman's Kryptonian name, "Kal-El," resembles the Hebrew words קל-אל, which can be taken to mean "voice of God."
Also, if there's nothing wrong with it, why are you bothered by it? Sigh. I accept your comment as the talkback standard of being funnily, incredibly offensive or ironically so. If we find Bryan Singer and get him to read the words "Superman looks like a jew," I bet we can get him to remake X2. -
...This is some impressive stuff. It looks like this HULK film is going to have the kind of action in it that Ang Lee's HULK debacle should have had.
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dunno, its sorta funny and he only does it once per TB. not like he's spamming it 100x per tb
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Lets see you do any better. I dare you!!
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About people who actually like Ang Lee's Hulk not knowing squat about Hulk: Bullshit. Anybody knows anything about Hulk knows that the Hulk comics are more susceptible than most other series to become fucking dull - Smash, smash, smash 'Hulk Smash' and more smashing. After a while you start to understand how Hulk gets his way out of every problem. 9 times out of 10, it involves punching something REALLY hard. That's not interesting. So forgive Ang Lee and co. for trying to inject some actual personality and depth into the character, he's clearly not about to make the same mistake twice. Ooh look! Hulk vs a free-runner! I wonder how he's gonna get out of this one?! (In his defence he does mix it up a little with a kick to the chest) And there! Hulk vs. Abomination! Is he gonna punch him? Nooooo, that would be toooo easy and, let's be honest, a cliche! No, he's gonna rip a poilce car in half and use the two ends as boxing gloves and THEN punch him! Ha! Didn't see that coming, did ya?!
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... he's going to have a real problem with adversaries over 140lbs. no? This movie is fucked.
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It's not all smash smash smash. Most of the time, that's all you get of the Hulk in OTHER comics, but in his own comic you get a lot of dialog and a lot of plot.
Comics that are all "smash" don't run for over 500 issues.
Whether it be the Peter David story that was bastardized and simplified for Ang Lee's Hulk, or the Joe Fixit storyline, or the World War Hulk series, or the current "red Hulk" series, Hulk has always had decent stories, and the solution is usually a scientific one, not a "smash" one. Hulk doesn't usually win because he's stronger-- He wins because Banner's inside that noggin.
To use your sarcastic tone: Oh look! No Hulk for half the movie! And then Hulk dogs! After that do we finally get a villain? Noooo, that would be toooo easy and, let's be honest, a cliche! No, he's gonna get his DAD trying to abuse him again and becoming something just short of a villain that lasts all of five minutes.
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Isn't it in the Studio contract that he has to do PRESS for the films he's headlining? He cashed the check, right? He CLAIMS he rewrote the film. His awkward retreat from the movie has REALLY damaged the credibility (I thought he was an inspired choice for Banner) I respect his artistic integrity, but if I was a studio head, I'd probably sue the shit out of him.
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What the fuck are you all arguing about?!?!?!?!
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The Hulk HAS beaten the Silver Surfer, and although it wasn't in the 616 universe, it's still canon and shows what the Hulk can do.
In Marvel Zombies, the Hulk beats the Silver Surfer by BITING HIS HEAD OFF.
So don't count the Hulk out. He HAS been thrown off the planet a few times (by Spider-Man as Captain Universe, and by Sentry, and by a few others, and that's not counting his exile by the Illuminati which only resulted in the Hulk coming back with an army and nearly conquering Earth.)
Your "bring out Betty" scenario is the smartest thing said yet on the subject of Hulk vs. Superman. Yes, the Hulk would probably calm down if Superman got Betty to help him-- The question then becomes: "Who is the invader/bad guy here? Superman or The Hulk?"
The answer to this would probably determine who wins. If this were Superman invading 616 Marvel (or, worse, Ultimate Marvel), then the Hulk would win because everyone would perceive it as the Hulk fighting off the villain, and nobody would help Superman (or know who he was). If it were the other way around, the Hulk would probably lose because Superman would be the hero in that situation, and people would accommodate him.
Bear in mind, though, that it all depends WHICH Superman and WHICH Hulk are fighting.
616 Hulk last year was damn near unbeatable, and he's trained in warfare, weapons, and had an army to back him up. Red Hulk seems pretty tough, and has a working brain, and doesn't mind using guns. Professor Hulk would get his ass kicked by Superman because he's just not as tough, as would Joe Fixit. Ultimate Hulk would probably stomp all over Superman AND Metropolis, killing millions of people in the process while screaming about his sex drive. Marvel Zombie Hulk (pre-cosmic power) would bite Superman's head off and devour the Kryptonian as a light snack. Marvel Zombie Hulk (with cosmic power) would just destroy Superman and eat the pile of ashes that remained.
Likewise, Superman's different personas would make a difference. Earth-1 Superman, Earth-2 Superman, Superboy, Post-death Superman, etc. . . It all depends on who is fighting who, and WHERE they are fighting.
Let's just agree that whichever Superman and Hulk fight each other, the rest of the world would lose. The damage they would do-- even if Superman were trying to minimize it-- would make 9/11 look like a papercut. They would do Hiroshima-level damage to the world. -
May 24, 2008 11:21:17 AM CDT
HULK COMING BACK WITH ARMY AND CONQUERING THE EARTH?!?!?!?
by bringingsexyback
Damn, I haven't read a Hulk comic in a hell of a long time. WTF?
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I believe it's called Is-Rael.
Seriously, though, Superman was invented by Jews, written and drawn by Jews, and has a lot of Jewish references in his story (names and words, legends, etc.) so one could safely argue that Superman is a fairly Jewish character... But he is not a Jew himself.
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He'd be Supermeng.
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ROLFMLOL!!!
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They may have been Jewish but their character in the way he landed in the heartland and wore the Red, White and Blue ... is the quintessential AMERICAN hero. S & S are true patriots.
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HULL are in the Premier League, so fuck Hulk, fuck Batman, fuck Indy, fuck everything! let's hit Barron's, Hull's 4th best nightclub, and get pissed!
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And Yeshua was Jewish too. What's my point you ask?
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Comics that are all 'smash' DON'T run for over 500 issues, you're right, that's why his series kept getting cancelled and why Greg Pak made a big fuss when his current run saw the series achieve a #100 issue for the FIRST TIME.
Planet Hulk - every single enemy they ever threw at him, he just kept punching it until it died or stopped. Wait, look! They've thrown the Silver Surfer into the mix! A guy with the power cosmic! How long will he las- oh, Hulk's just punching him repeatedly. Ok. World War Hulk: Blackbolt, the 2nd most powerful being on Earth. We didn't see it, but you can bet Hulk punched him. Iron Man gets his most hectic armour ever out, Hulk punches it, and levels a couple of buildings in the process. Great. I stopped reading after that (I like some story in my comics), but I gather he punched some more people, and then he and Sentry punched each other so hard that they both reverted back to their alter-egos (like a super-powered Rocky 2). And Red Hulk? Again, haven't read it, but I gather they're keeping you interested in all the punching by not telling you who the new Hulk is. Whoopee do. Ang Lee's Hulk made the right choice in focusing on the more interesting character: Banner. In doing so they made a movie that means something. This new one, admittedly I'm looking forward to it, but on the same level that I'd look forward to a District 13 sequel, dumb and hopefully fun, but mostly fluff. -
It was called World War Hulk, and it was a major Marvel event.
Basically, the Illuminati (Mr. Fantastic, Tony Stark, Prof. X, Black Bolt, Doctor Strange, and Namor) voted to remove the Hulk from Earth by tricking him into "repairing" a space station, and then shooting him into deep space, to what they thought was an uninhabited planet. Unfortunately for them, The Hulk (now FURIOUS because he'd been betrayed) ended up on a warlike planet and became their leader in short order due to his being the most powerful warrior they'd ever seen. He had a relationship and ruled them, and remained the Hulk the whole time he was there. All the time planning to get back to Earth to deal with those who had betrayed him. He deals with a lot of political intrigue, and basically unites the aliens he now leads into one powerful kingdom.
It should be noted that Namor would have no part of the plan, and left the Illuminati when the plan came up. (IIRC Doctor Strange also hated the plan).
So The Hulk comes back to Earth with his army, and they KICK ASS. They proceed to flatten everyone who gets between them and the Illuminati. The Avengers (both Mighty and New), most of the Initiative, and pretty much every hero who tries to stop the Hulk gets beaten down. Now, bear in mind this is the Hulk wearing armor, and wielding weapons, madder than he's ever been. He just decimates everyone, until Senty (Marvel's neurotic version of Superman) shows up and tries to stop him-- The Sentry almost destroys everything, but the Hulk defeats him before that happens.
It finally takes the power of every defensive satellite in a special emergency S.H.I.E.L.D. network to subdue the Hulk (who then finds out that he's been used by some of the aliens he was leading).
Currently, Banner has been sitting in a cell deep below the desert, while another Hulk-- a red one-- has been rampaging around, killing old enemies (he SHOT and killed the Abomination) and trying to get at the Hulk. Meanwhile, Rick Jones has become the new Abomination, but he's a savage beast and basically got beat by Red Hulk.
Speculation is that Red Hulk is Ross, but we'll see.
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Have you seen Assassination of Jesse James? I watched it last night and LLLUURRVVEED it from beginning to end. Amazing film. I think Brad Pitt should play Captain America.
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Wow. I haven't read comics in a long time due to the expense and waning interest but damn that sounds pretty tasty ... Maybe I can pick up an anthology on CD somewhere.
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I'm not wrong..you're just taking your info from a different source. yeah, they've always unclearly stated "hulk gets stonger as hulk gets madder"...but 800,000 TONS!?!?! THAT has NEVER been depicted. My estimates were the Official Marvel Cards that came out in the 90's which listed the characters attributes on the back. In some of the series the Hulk is clearly listed as only being able to MAX OUT at 175 tons.Also, I think that it's fair to say that the Hulk has NEVER been depicted as being strong enough to, let's say, move the Earth.Also, let's take into consideration that DC's heroes have always been grander and more powerful than Marvel's non-cosmic roster. As is, I'm standing by my assertion that Hulk's strength would never approach that of Superman's.Obviously, you have a different take...
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What the hell is a "Jewish look"? Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. If there was a Jewish look, it stands to reason you could tell if someone were Jewish by how they look. Yet the fact you think Routh "looks Jewish" when in fact he isn't shows this isn't true. What is true though is that you sound like an idiot.
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between Norton, them and Marvel and the director. Norton has ideas above his station. it seems that he pretty much bullied everyone to get this film and then bullied everyone who worked on the film.
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This is how the summer will turn out:
Iron Man rules the summer
followed by Indiana Jones and Dark Knight
Box office disappointments BUT still hold their own will turn out to be:
Prince Caspian
The Happening
WallE
Outrageous flops will be:
Speed Racer
Incredible Hulk
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are we sure he's distancing himself from this film? i mean, just cause he doesnt show up to one of harry's partys doesnt mean he didnt happen to already have a prior engagment. i think we started the 'norton isnt talking the hulk!' rumor right here on this talkback.
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..with Emil Blonsky still in "human form"--Tim Roth rules you all
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..if that cannon-thing-whatever didn't do anything, why shoot mere bullets at the HULK..? Heh
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I think this will do well in the box office. Why? Young boys will see this over and over. Why? Because things get fucking smashed. Chimps I agree about Dark Knight not smashing the box office because I think that movie will be too dark. Women won't want to see it because either how dark it looks or the fact Heath was in it and now he has passed on. It still will do well though. I have a feeling movies like Get Smart will do really well and possibly WallE dominating the summer. All I hope for though is Wanted and The Happening to do well because we need more R rated movies out there especially Wanted because R rated action movies need to make a come back.
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Most versions of Superman beat most versions of the Hulk.
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I know Marvel probably wants The Incredible Hulk to stand on its own, but Iron Man is approaching $450M worldwide. If more people knew that Tony Stark will be in the movie, it could only help. On a side note, if you buy any season of the old television series, you get a free movie pass to see the movie.
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you either have very small hands - or you have been fisting very large women, or other mammals - or all of the above - bravo
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i disagree on norton - in this case anyway - it was clear from day 1 that he was more pumped about this than anyone - his enthusiasm and involvement got it made - if the studio and director had any class or respect for the fact that norton was the real reason this movie got made, they would have let him see rushes and sit in the avid room - norton is a huge talent, and a huge hulk fan - if the studio fucked him over as far as his involvement and where he saw this movie going, then they (studio) deserve the turkey theyre stuck with - i was not keen on this reboot, and still aint all that much... but norton's involvement and love for the characters and comics had me wantng to see this - but now he's been shut out - so lets see what this thing is like now
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i hope yore right - i hope its a rumor and norton is still pumped about this movie - if thats the case, then i hope this will be something ill want to see more than once
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I knew that characters like Doc Sampson and The Leader are going to be in it, but I didn't know Stark was as well.
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Designer insignia, formal cloak, royal blue body suit and really groovy boots. Hulk has purple pants. No contest. Come on, purple and green clash, for cryin' out loud.
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the fact that you complain that routh looks too jewish to play superman says a lot about you - i always tought he looked like a weaker chris reeve - hers a question for you... do you think there are any jews in the world that look anything like ed norton or tim roth? - if so (yes, there are), are they too jewish looking to paly banner and blonsky... wait, "blonsky"... a polish jew maybe? - my point is, who cares? - go fuck a hole in the wall
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occurs after the credits and has iron man landing telling banner to, "come with me or there will be trouble."
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by looking at some super low rez clip off yahoo? Isn't that a bit like putting a semi-transparent sack over your head and looking at the blurry shadow of some super hot chick and saying "Yep, she's fuck'in ugly man!"
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HOPE IT'S MORE THAN JUST A TRANSFORMERS STYLE cg FEST!
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http://tinyurl.com/6k5cmn
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the action in this movie is better than in ANG LEE's HULK. my issue with this is, why do CGI at all? get a 5'5 bodybuilder who weighs like 260 and film him like Weta did with gandalf in hobbiton. build all the sets in 1/2 scale and full scale. put the guy in the small versions of the sets and use forced perspective and camera tricks. then all you would have to do is digitally paint him green. low-tech. more convincing. use somebody like lee priest, who knows if he can act. who cares? all he has to do is be pissed off and flail around like a maniac.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1640/lee priest2mg.jpg
take that guy, now double him 5'4 x 2 =10'8 and that guy has perfect proportions to be the hulk.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/gal lery/data/552/lee1.jpg
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I'm pretty sure of that.
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What a suprise!
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I looked him up in Who's Jew.
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I DO NOT want to see Cap doing wire fu, thank you very much.
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I bet circumcision was a bitch.
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Are we all clear on that?! Now back to business!
Now if the rumors of Norton not having anything to do with the movie will kill it for me officially. I really am hoping that it does well. Speed Racer tanked and now Indy getting bad reviews. Its not looking good so far its shaping like this for summer GOOD/BAD 1-2. IRON MAN-SPEED RACER, INDY. Damn it. Do I have to see Narnia just to get a cheap feeling of goodness? -
I'm with the Green King. Fuck this shit about which one and where. I'm talking about the Hulk NOW! and the Superman NOW! fighting in the fucking Mojave Desert. My money is with Hulk. The Hulk has NEVER been like this. And yes the Hulk DID hold a planet up (actually he was holding Saakar together) but there you go! Hulk is more taktical in fighting then Supes. Yes Supes had his share of fights and wars but Hulk is trained. So Hulk wins, but by no means would it be a complete landside. Still Hulk wins. Hail the Green Skar!
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I think this tanks at the box office for the simple reason that we just had a real shitty Hulk flop a couple of years ago. I think this movie will be the Last Action Hero of 2008. I think Dark Knight will perform well enough to generate another sequel, but I think it will perform less than expectations - for the reason you cite - its going to be way too dark for most people. I think Price Caspian is suffering the same fate. I think its too dark for the families that flocked to LW&TW and its got a stigma of being LOTR lite (which is probably undeserved). Again though, it will be enough to push a third movie. Hulk will kill future hulk movies for decades.
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..gets better and better. You gotta think that for Norton, or any big name, to get involved they'd have to know they were delivering something better than Ang Lee, or at least something so different as to make those so horribly scarred by Lee feel not-so-very bad. The CGI is strange, but you can't argue with that kick-ass action sequence. I say the movie will struggle but not be a failure, there will be many who will think it's much better than they expected while all will hail it as superior to the first Hulk movie. Not as good and solid as Iron Man but with far more action, might even totally kick ass and surprise everyone.
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Bruce Banner turns into a GREEN monster (which is cool) but some of you guys can't let go of the fact that his pants still fits him? It's called artistic license stop being gay about his dick ripping through his pants. Oh yeah, that fight between the Hulk and Abomination looked better than anything in the whole of the first Hulk movie. Hulk puppies? Were they shitt'n us?
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Superman can simply pickup the Hulk and throw him or fly him into the sun.
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Not Jewish.
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Like that fucker can jump around like that and still shoot. He showed more super powers then the Hulk.
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This one looks like they are getting the attitude right. Simple formula to great hulk flick. Bruce and Betty meet again. Government as usual are dicks and follow Betty to get to Bruce. Betty screams and Bruce hulks out smashing stuff left and right insert CGI fight scene of Hulk doing his thing. Defeated military gets super powered something. Insert any you wish at this point alien, super soldier it doesn't matter as long as it can stand toe to toe with the green one. They fight smashing the piss out of whatever city you wish them to be in. Once again insert CGI fight scene. Super being at first is whipping Hulk good until Betty is threatened and then Hulk gets super pissed and whoops the shit out of super being. After which Betty sooths the savage beast. Bruce and Betty escape off into the sunset for more great Hulk movies. The end. See if they stick with that formula you cant lose. That's where the first one failed regardless of better CGI hopefully this one succeeds with tried and true Hulk storyline.
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Zerocorpse was talking about.
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May 24, 2008 8:08:00 PM CDT
Terrible. This will make LESS money than Ang Lee's THE HULK
by proman1984
Too bad.
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Metal making metal-on-metal noises even though it's metal-on-air as he swishes around! Hey I know there's a lot more latitude and a lot less actual logic in sound design (which is why a sword drawn from a leather scabbard makes a metal-on-metal sound and lightning and thunder are actually synced to each other), but that's pretty fuckin' hilarious. Maybe this will be fun after all - to laugh at.
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You are thinking Judaism.
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I guess we should've expected this from the director of the awful Transporter 2. Originally, I thought there was a chance I might see this. After seeing that clip of Tim Roth fighting the Hulk, I'm now in "wait to rent the DVD" mode. Wow, that was truly stupid. In a scene with a giant green computer animated character, Tim Roth's fighting is what is preventing me from suspending my disbelief. Sad. Don't know what Marvel is thinking when chosing directors for its properties. This guy was the wrong choice to re-launch this franchise.
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Too idiots who still don't know, Roth is injected with super soldier-serum at the point in the movie where this clip takes place. That's why he goes in by himself and everybody hangs back and observes.
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The scenes look pretty entertaining to myself, but the terrible low-quality CGI really just takes me out of it. Sounds like I'll be relying on reviews and good word of mouth before I see this in theaters.
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IM cred, pay Robert Downey Jr. to film more crossover scenes and for IM suit CG, to lure attention toward this film.
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most CG looks videogame quality on computer screens that are way higher res than viewing it on the silver screen, unless one is at an IMAX screening.
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Ok, I was unsure before. After seeing the new fight clip, this movie will be 100 times better than nutsack Ang Lee's crappy version.
The Hulk has always been about property destruction, not silly-ass giant dogs. They picked the perfect villain. Ed Norton will *own* as Banner. -
Pretty cool clip. Will Sam Jackson be inviting Banner to join the Avengers at the end of the flick? And BTW, I'm pretty sure Popeye could take the Hulk.
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Is the Hulk's member really big? Or does his wang get bigger the more pissed off he gets? If it's green, what color are the veins. What about his nutsack. Jeezus, that fuckin' thing must be like a gunny sack or somethin'. And where does he shit? Wouldn't that be a little hard to hide. Does anyone have his phone number or e-mail address? I need to know this stuff. Those faggots at Marvel Comics won't tell me. Everytime I call and ask, they hang up on me. What's their problem anyway. You can't tell me that they didn't think about this shit when they were drawing the character.
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Man, could you picture them making a porn flick with this green fucker? If he shot his wad in some bitches face, it'd blow her face off. If he back-doored some broad, it'd rip her in half. Is there a porn starlet around who could take his big green man-meat into her mouth and give him a proper BJ. The possibilities are endless. He was created by radiation...does that make his nuts glow in the dark? Maybe they use his spunk to make those glow-sticks.
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...I'm guessing you were born in 1984? Well, don't worry, the brain still grows until you're 25. Maybe at that point you'll understand my post. OTOH, you just might be a permanent cretin and SOL. So let me put it into baby words for you... nah, I won't bother. Just scroll up and reread my original msg until you go blind, or see the light.
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Edward Norton and The Hulk are the same guy.
Jack's Incredible Green Spleen, or something like that.
VIVA FIGHT CLUB!!! -
Is that we can fuckin TELL!!! Animators...get over your "it's just better to hand animate" bullshit and MO-CAP that stuff. WE CAN TELL. That's why Golum looked incredible, and these guys don't.
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unauthorized Hulk dolls with penises. Some unsuspecting British six-year old won this doll as a prize, according to this article:
http://tinyurl.com/5cmggh
http://tinyurl.com/65amxd
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this movie turns out to be, it'll still do well at the box office, because of The Hulk character's name recognition. Being crappy didn't destroy Spidey 3.
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Damn you IndustryKiller
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You're totally right. Routh does look Jewish. I had him confused with Larry David, that's how Jewish he looks. Ariel Sharon, too. He looks like Ariel Sharon. Moron.
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May 25, 2008 4:35:42 AM CDT
At some stage Gale anne Hurd is going to have to put a she hulk
by emeraldboy
into production or at least introduce the character in the third hulk. this would set up a tie in for the upcoming for the avenrgers movie.
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The more I see of this film, the more Edward Norton as Banner worries me.
And I think they're going to kill the film in ads. They're going to hype the end and then people are going to go in expecting action when in reality the majority of the film is going to be about Edward Norton running away from the government.
I'll be seeing it, but I really don't expect much. I don't even expect more than Ang Lee at this point.
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They should change the name of this site to Ain't nothing but bitching going on nothing cool about it.com. I would hate to know 99% of the people on this site because they do nothing but bitch. It must be miserable going to the movies with you people. Haven't you people figured out that comic book movies are not Shakespeare. That's because Shakespeare sucks and comic book movies kick ass but they have their flaws but I am just so fucking happy that they continue to make them because I want to see Hulk Smash, Avengers Assemble, Batman's Utility Belt, and Spidey slinging webs. The CGI in the new Hulk looks a little weak but HULK SMASH!! and Hulk didn't do enough smashing in the last movie. I didn't understand the ending at all...was he fighting a cloud that was really his dad??? Anyways, quit with all the pissing and moaning and try and enjoy yourselves you miserable fucks!
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Smooth skin wrapped over tender meat. Delish!
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Too Sunni!
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Yeah, I know they made it all look more realistic with the Batman origin and stuff, but that didn´t felt like Batman at all. Gotham looked like a freaking Manhattan-ripp off. Burton´s Batman felt way more like the comics if it comes to the visuals and the overall vibe.
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clips looked good. Don´t think fightscene looked like like Matrix at all and come on, stuntmen using wires for flips and stunts since like...ever.
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in the clips. Remind of old Godzilla-movies. :) Yeah, that haven been fun times.
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I have a feeling this movie is going to rock. And with the rumored Iron Man cameo? Holy sh*t Marvel owns the summer. Although, for me, SPEED RACER is my fave thus far, it clearly failed with the mass audiences who didn't both to see it cause SPEED RACER is a more of a cult thing.
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As in: Anyone who sits through this willingly is an...
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Yeah, it sucked for the most part but it was not a Speed Racer level bomb by any measure.
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that would make sense if Siegel or Shuster were practicing Jews, but they weren't. The best argument that can be made is that certain things have a Jewish underpinning because of their heritage, but nothing was done on a conscious level. About 90% of the creators were Jewish, yet you wouldn't know because very few were of the faith. And that the time, the 20's and 30's, there was no cultural distinction between Judaism and Jewish, especially for children of immigrants, like there is today. If anything, Siegel and Shuster wanted and were pushed into assimilating as many American norms and practices as possible. They didn't create Superman as some homage to being Jewish.
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According to box office mojo the 2003 Ang Lee Hulk made: = Worldwide: $245,360,480
That's not bombing, The production budget was $137M.
That being said, bitching about a movie based on unfinished clips or a slice of the movie seen on a PC out of context is stupidity.
If I had a dollar for every time someone reacted like a 12 year old crack addict BEFORE actually seeing the movie, I'd be rich enough to make my own version. -
...after Iron Man's success he's not distancing himself, but he's also not going to be a cheerleader. If he shows at Alamo, I'd be shocked because that's hard-selling a movie which he's nver been comfortable doing. Keep in mind that Marvel is the company to work with right now, so for Norton to get all bitchy will cost him with other studios who want to ride the wave.
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The crib that most VFX houses rely on is motion blurring. One one hand, it creates a smoothness to the effect by erasing the stiffness. On the other, it's easy to go overboard with because it hides mo-cap and matte issues. Spider-Man 2 is still one of the worst offenders.
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Ang Lee's Hulk wasn't bad because it was a bomb. It was bad because it absolutely sucked. It was worse than Batman & Robin and Batman Forever combined. It was worse than Captain America. It was a shitty cartoon looking video game of a movie which seemed like it was made for children who aren't very smart. If you had to watch one movie over and over again for eternity and your choices are Ang Lee's Hulk or Gone Fishin' what would you choose? I would be watching Joe Pesci and Willie Nelson's laugh fest infinitely.
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But they could have created Superman as a homage to their experience of assimilation. The Clark Kent alter ego is often interpreted as that. And it's arguable what was conscious or not.
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I agree... rather than limit by physical construction budget, use CGI. I'd rather see a photo-real Beowulf-like adaptation than another X-men or fantastic four that simply failed to capture the team.
I don't want to see the Avengers watered down like a TV show just to fit a live action budget. There is too much going on.
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nothing ironic about that post of yours then.
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I don't know how much of that was Lee's fault though. I mean, I'm assuming he made the script they gave him--which was terribly. Three different size Hulks (including one bigger than a fighter jet)? Hulk fighting gamma-radiated poodles? The final fight against a cloud or something that is supposed to be his dad? It was just a friggin' mess.
Superman Returns likewise was a clusterfuck script. Supes has a kid! What the fuck was that? Assinine. And Lex Luthor again. With yet another plot to move some piece of land somewhere. Boring. Cripes, when you consider the roster of villains you can pull from with Superman mythology somewhat ought to be shot for coming up with that shit script, which was more concerned with being a love story than a kick-ass superhero flick.
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...is a proper villain. I don't need another Hulk movie where the scariest point is when soldiers shoot industrial strength glue at the poor motherf@#%ker. I like my superheroes smacked around a bit like my man Peter Parker. We have to feel like there is even a remote possibility the guy will lose his life. And Edward Norton is an over-rated dickhead. You can always catch him "acting". He has this glint in his eyes like look at me acting. You can tell he's not there in the moment sometimes. American History X is the only work I really respect of his. I mean, Fightclub and The 25th Hour were really good films but not because of anything he did. Too much winking to the camera.
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you know the one? where you say "that film was shit" or "fuck the effects the terrible the film was awful" and someone comes back with "i'd like to see you make a better film. make your own film and then lets talk" so until you make a movie of your own you have to like everything?? is that the rule is it? I can only assume that people who use this argument like every single film they see or that they are in fact film makers. such a fucking lame way to defend a film or debate something. so please stop it.
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Is the crummy re-imagining of The Abomination character. The original comic design form the 60's through the 80's was cool enough. Big, scaley with a bunch of mushroom shaped bumps on it's head and big "Gorgo" style ears. This new design looks like some third rate Japanese anime character. And the cliched cookie monster voice is the cherry on the top of this shit monster sunday.
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What was ironic about what I said? Check the definition of the word ironic and then apply it to my comments...are you trying to say that because I said I didn't understand why Hulk was fighting a cloud, I can't complain about all of the bitching on this site? That's not irony. perhaps the word you were looking for is hypocritical but that doesn't apply either...so what are you talking about?
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Maybe the new design will grow on me. But I too prefer the bat-eared, heavy-browed large-fanged original Abomination. He would have been more intense to look at. The comic version appears more reptilian.
That being said: I remember a similar issue people had with Hugh Jackman as wolvarine. "What? wolvarine is short! And stocky! This guy is tall and slimmer! No way!"
All that went away as soon as it was clear Jackman totally owned the character.
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shows he has no imagination. He thought there was no realistic reason why Blonsky looks reptilian. Apart from the incongruous demand for "realism" regarding a superhero milieu--well...come up with one, you stubborn idiot! How fucking difficult can that be? Say they mixed reptilian DNA in the super-soldier serum in an attempt to give Blonsky a limb-regeneration factor. There--done.
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to assume he is a better designer of comic book villains/monsters than Jack Kirby.
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Superman wins but not by much. He'd figure out "Hey this guy is getting stronger" and finish it fast. He learnt that from fighting Doomsday X number of times. Superman (movie) V Hulk (movie), No contest. Hulk gets his ass handed to him. Superman (TAS) V Hulk (now), Superman gets his ass handed to him. And on and on. Plus, if you want to beat Superman FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT THROW HIM INTO THE SUN. No good will come of it...
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http://tinyurl.com/5du26w
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It's 2008 Now! COME ON!!!!!
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I agree, all it is , is a cop out. A lame excuse. Did it save budget? Doomsday was mentioned. Like doomsday, Abomination should have the comic look to look a little less human and more nightmarish.
Jack Kirby knew what he was doing, and they should have followed his vision closer than this. They were even worried that "Abomination" was "too silly" a moniker.
It's the comic universe as made by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. It should not be re-imagined. They re-imagined Hulk before and what did we get? a 15' tall king kong. , not the comic book hulk.
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It beats me--that one scene, that one movement they made.. agh, I hate that part of the clip. It's totally uncalled for
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Hopefully it will be a nice surprise like IRON MAN.
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What's the matter with liking the Sound of Music?
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Abomination, but the point still stands.
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clean that up and and i can get on board with this... otherwise... meh
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out of the game....cool I guess? The game was good at least...
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Is that all of Lou Ferrigno's early work was overdubbed due to his vocal development from being deaf (see "Hercules", etc). Same thing for Arnie ("Hercules in New York" altho from accent and not deafness). I think it's great they're using Lou's voice and if you haven't seen the guy lately, the talk ain't bs...he's a monster...freakin huge...much bigger than Arnie ever was (for some irreverent fun, watch that doc with Ferrigno and Arnie, 'Pumping Iron', the competition for 1970-something Mr. Universe; very interesting stuff).All that said, I must say the more I see of 'TIH' the more I'm looking forward to seeing it. "Transporter (1&2)" were both fucking stupid and tedious but I really liked "Unleashed" (aka 'Danny the Dog') and even being a big fan of Lee's "Hulk" I'm still psyched for this...always plenty of room for all good comic book movies!
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form. Hurt looked more Gen. Ross like than I would have thought. I am very encouraged. Though I'll still miss Sam Elliot and Jennifer Conelly as the Ross family. And till klinda wished it'd be a sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk, this could be very fun and good. It's got Ed Norton and that's a big feather in its cap. Good to se their working in the Avengers arc here too. If it's on par with Iron Man I'll be thrilled and kiss all my earlier reservations goodbye. I'll still love Lee's Hulk though. It's the Rodney Dangerfield of Superhero movies.
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May 27, 2008 6:38:59 PM CDT
Loved Unleashed Jet Li showed some great range there
by crichtonastronut
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I enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk, thought it was a bit drawn out but in a strange way. There was not too little drama or too little action. He just does not know how to deliver it in the proper amounts for a Summer blockbuster like the Hulk. Batman Begins, although a different type of comic book character altogether, was able to weave both the heavy drama and spectacular action. The Transporter films were mindless, but I am not sure that this director is unable to direct a comic book movie. Hell, we gave Lee a chance and his shit was always so depressing and heavy. Unleashed showed Jet Li's range and Letterier's range, too. Morgan Freeman and Bob Hoskins presence in the film didn't hurt either. I am not saying this movie will rock. I want it to. But so many bitch about the CGI (for fuck's sake, Ironman CGI was good, but he was metal, and the CGI was a bit flawed at certain points too). Perfect CGI does not make a movie more acceptable. Transformers was impressive when it came to CGI, the transformations from actual truck to Optimus Prime is breathtaking. Then the story takes a shit in your mouth. Man in Suit/CGI, I don't care. Get a comic book version of the Hulk on screen that also pays homage to one of my favorite TV shows at the same time, I am there. Tim Roth with super soldier serum flying around like Zhang Ziyi FUCK YEAH!!! This is a comic book movie and this is the shit I expect to see. Especially from a Hulk movie. Also BSB IS S FUNNY MOTHERFUCKER. I laugh out loud at 90% of your posts, brother.
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than it did in the stills. That said, I agree as long as the story and the acting are solid CGI shouldn't be the deciding factor on whether this is good or not. The thing I liked about Lee's Hulk and for that matter Lee's Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, is that they distanced us from the expectation of physical logic. These aren't worlds governed by physics, they are lands of myth giving form to the subconcious. That's why gravity is a matter of training and attitude and the Hulk just got stronger and stronger the more he was hurt, both physically and emotionally. In that setting, green CGI skin is just part of that mythic world and fits. There's no temptation to make a sort of practical sense that is probaly missplaced in a movie setting anyway.
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haven't yet read all above, but from day 1, seeing the Crappy CGI this is a crying shame. They obviously took every element that sucked Donkey Ass in the first film, and redid it from the ground up. You now have an actual story, great actors, looks to be a solid director and fine action shots. You have the lonely man theme, and Bruce on the run. Everything is as it should be---but the "Money Shot" of the Hulk in CGI - hey, the whole reason to be here - looks like he wearing a dry rotted rubber suit. The Muscle lines are where it dry rotted and ripped apart. Its amazing that no one stepped back and said "Huh. that looks like shit! Better fix this a bit" and Shazam! A perfect film!
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Fuck! First Speed's a "bomb" (though I think its not really that bad compared to others cough*bayformers*cough)then Indy 4 is a BIG TIME disappointment and now Hulk looking like a cheap student film. Damn! I really do hope Hulk does leave an ass-tastic taste in my mouth.
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... kinda makes sense, but it's beyond technical. It's actually pretty annoying. The movie's concept overall is begging us to suspend disbelief on so many levels, they didn't have to adhere to one such technicality. Especially if that one thing is pissing off some fans and detracting from the one true Hulk villain we finally get to see realized on screen. And had they kept the ears, they wouldn't need to worry if people would be so terribly confused and turned off by the fact Emil wasn't spliced with any Reptile DNA, all they had to do was visually explain it in his first transformation scene into Abomination. The ears wouldn't even need to be 'ears', they could have been more mutated bones protruding from the head area, or some stretched and torn skin, pulled out and left there after a violent transformation sequence. Whatever... it's so frustrating. But I actually love these clips and can't wait to see this.
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