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Warners Issues An Official TERMINATOR 4 Press Release That Touches On Plot Stuff!! + John Connor's New Woman Is...

Merrick here...
Warners has issued a start-of-production press release for McG's TERMINATOR film. It brings us an officially sanctioned (but odd) plot synopsis for the film. I'm assuming (although it may be foolish to do so) the movie itself will make more sense than the press release. Here's what the release had to say:

In the highly anticipated new installment of The Terminator film franchise, set in post-apocalyptic 2018, Christian Bale stars as John Connor, the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet's operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind.

"But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part?" "Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past." Shrugs.
The release also says that Charlotte Gainsbourg will play Kate Connor....
Presumably this is the Kate Brewster character, now married to John. The role was originated by Claire Danes in TERMINATOR 3.

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  • May 23, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST


    by FirstManReturns1


  • May 23, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay


    Damn You Michael Bay

  • May 23, 2008, 8:15 a.m. CST

    sure am glad...

    by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    i have the ability to compartmentalize my fanboy feelings about shit. otherwise, i could see this really upsetting me.<p>oh, also:<p>Damn You Michale Bay!!!!

  • May 23, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    They should save the money..

    by ChrisTuckersOnlyFan

    and put it into the TV show which was awesome.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Does anyone care?

    by FordPerfect


  • May 23, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    "Highly anticipated new installment"...

    by irritable

    ... after T3? <p> You are sadly mistaken, Press Release drone.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    PG13 Terminator.....

    by MolaRambo

    I've already switched off.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Sounds fun!

    by mowgli77

    <p>I want to know the terrible secret now!</p> <p>No really, after suffering through the miserable T3, the Sarah Connor Chronicles has revived my interest in the Terminator franchise. And Bale is an excellent choice for the adult Connor.</p> <p>Wow, I'm actually excited for this.</p>

  • May 23, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Sounds like The Matrix: Reloaded

    by Zino

    They will get to Skynet and be greeted by an old guy (Arnie) in a chair who tells Bale that he is a mathematical reminder or some shit.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    lol irritable

    by irvy101

    the tears are beginning to form in my eyes. and what is this about pg13. please, its not going to be a pg13 is it?

  • May 23, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    The terrible secret will be . . .

    by kabong

    something stupid that screws up the canon continuity.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Did George Lucas write this?!

    by pancomplex

    Might be good with some CGI Prarie Dogs.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    the Incredible Hulk Game in the corner

    by just pillow talk

    Certainly looks like the Hulk could be smashing some terminator dudes. Conner should just go back in time and bring the Hulk to the future. Problem Solved. Case closed.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Terminator Overload

    by ricardomontalkhan

    Enough with "Terminator," it's sequels, it's TV series and even more sequels. It's been played out already! Hey check out this great blog on blogspot. it's all about sci-fi tv/movies. it's called thebitterproducer

  • May 23, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Terminator Overload

    by ricardomontalkhan

    Enough with "Terminator," it's sequels, it's TV series and even more sequels. It's been played out already! Hey check out this great blog on blogspot. it's all about sci-fi tv/movies. it's called thebitterproducer

  • May 23, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Just keep your expectations really low...

    by tonagan

    then when you finally see it, you can say "that wasn't so bad".

  • May 23, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Bale's gonna be the new Christopher Walken

    by rev_skarekroe

    A very talented actor who'll appear in any awful movie for a buck or two.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Put John Connor in a fridge

    by MolaRambo

    and have him survive a nuclear blast. That'll sell it to me. Prairie Dogs and swinging vine Terminators too please. Psychic Terminators. With swords.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    i had to read that sentence several times to understand it.

    by Cotton McKnight

    i am no english major but i had a hard time understanding... the future that john connor is raised to believe in is altered.... who writes this stuff?

  • May 23, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    I'm right with you, irritable!

    by Miami Mofo

    I absolutely loved the original Terminator and liked T-2 a lot, but T-3 irritated me beyond belief!

  • May 23, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Terminator Wackiness

    by parabola99

    I smell wacky time-travel plot paradoxes coming. Like in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure when they were in jail and then had the future thems put the keys to the jail in the bushes for the present thems. Then suddenly, the keys were in the bushes. But with Terminators instead. Station!

  • May 23, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST


    by MolaRambo

    So true buddy. So true. I think Bale is only as good as the script. I've heard he is quite stiff in TDK too. Hopefully not.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Harrys Review

    by MolaRambo

    I wonder if Knowles will right a 10,000 essay on how The Terminator shaped his childhood before telling us the movie is amazing when in fact, 90% of this board will hate it. Sorry Harry but you're a fucking hack and it's an insult to have you listed as a critic.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Bah, this is easy.

    by Fawst

    The dude is just a highly advanced Terminator. Skynet is using cybernetic implants on pre-J.D. humans who have been "timenapped." While not as powerful as a full-on Terminator, they can pass 100% for being a human, because they ARE human. This guy with memories of death row just happens to be either a failed conversion to the new model, or ... something ELSE!!! (dun, dun DUNNNNNNNNN!)

  • May 23, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    i highly doubt

    by ZO

    we'll be getting raves from the AICN team about this project. they have been shittin on it for months

  • May 23, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    i liked t3 better than t2

    by Cotton McKnight

    sorry, but i do. it has a more coherent storyline and as i have said in at least two dozen other talkbacks, it clears up the mess that t2 left behind. if you search your feelings and get past the james cameron lovefest, you know im right. t2 had plot holes. it contradicted the first movie. i get that it was a landmark film and blah blah blah, but im speaking just in terms of story. its simply a better, more coherent story.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Who's the last cylon again?

    by hairlesspet

    Could be Bale...he does look somewhat robotic at times...

  • May 23, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST



    I wouldn't like to think the last Terminator is part of this... LET'S ROCK!!!

  • May 23, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST


    by MolaRambo

    I'd rather see a Uwe Boll directed effort with a script written by David Koepp rather than McHollywood Hack, McG. Why can't they just take the dog that is the terminator franchise out to the coal shed and unload several rounds of a 12 gauge into its head to relieve it off the misery of T3 and the TV series. If WB aren't willing to push the movie to a 15/R rating, it's not worth the admission price.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST

    But the real question is...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...why isn't Shia LaBeouf in it?

  • May 23, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    so it's like terminator meets 12 monkeys

    by StovetopStuffin'

    with Marcus being made to go back in time to save JC, rather than be executed? I wanna see the rubber skin terminators. The first ones.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    This movie is the phyical re-embodiment of the 'Take-a-shit' guy

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    FLUSH! Yes, it is 2006 again.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • May 23, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST


    by MolaRambo

    deserves to be R rated. Everyone is so bloody sensitive these days.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Time space continuum and all that shit. Just give us a fucking human vs. robot war dammit. Dammit!!!!!!!!!

  • May 23, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    She looks like Sinead O'Connor!

    by Judge Briggs

    Doesn't she? Also, this movie better not suck. I hate you Brett Ratner.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Hoping for the best,

    by Supes4949

    But expecting the worst....

  • May 23, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Bale's awesome, but this...

    by cdubbs727

    ...This sounds utterly terrible. First off, the first three films were called "Terminator" because they were about...a terminator. Without Arnie in it, can it really be called that? Why don't they just call it "John Connor's no good, horrible very bad future?" I like Bale, but I think he's seeing dollar signs more than anything. The idea of stopping the war against machines would make for a good story, but that story is being told on TV. How many alternate realities do we need for a series that is wheezing to begin with? I didn't think T3 was awful, but it was definitely running out of steam.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    So let me guess...

    by auraboy

    Since this is a trilogy, and is basically going to look and sound just like the Matrix but with less Japanese influence on the visuals, they'll set off on a huge epic, LOTR quest to get to the heart of Skynet (which they already did to send Michael Biehn back in the first film, but anyway...) and then they discover's the end of part one and we'll have to watch two more movies to see that there is a plot by the machines to annihilate mankind. Which given they started a nuclear war and created things called hunter killers and terminators, you kinda assumed they were doing already. It doesn't even have the quasi-religious Matrix stuff, or the need for the machines to extract energy from humans. They just want to kill us all. Which is fine, but what's the big surprise gonna be?

  • May 23, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    do i think t2 is better in every other way? of course.

    by Cotton McKnight

    better directing, better special effect, better bad guy. but the story and plot holes were ridiculous. example: the story makes a big whoop about the new terminator being liquid metal. well why doesnt the terminator turn into a sphere or something when chasing connor? wouldnt that be faster than turning into a human and running on foot? i know it would look stupid but thats far more logical than what we got. and thats what t3 is, logical. the story makes sense. everything that happens in it is either consistent with the first film or clears up something from the second. i didnt like linda hamilton in that movie either.

  • May 23, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    "The Governator"

    by Uncapie

    Terminator becomes elected official of sovereign state of Karlifornia.. Destroys state's economy with other eletred officials from "They Live."

  • May 23, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Batman marries Sinead O'Connor!

    by geodesigns

    Only in a Terminator future can that make sense

  • May 23, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Directed by Jon Favreau. <p> Did y'all just cream your pants?

  • May 23, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Google = Skynet

  • May 23, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • May 23, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    "highly anticipated"

    by mefrog

  • May 23, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Fucking hate Marketing whores

    by Lost Jarv

    It's like they only know a couple of adjectives and feel a need to use them all every time. Someone buy them a thesauraus.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    more like "PG13 shitfest"

    by mefrog

  • May 23, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    lol at everyone in this talkback`

    by ArcadianDS

    who is pooping on four sentences worth of this movie's premise, and declaring it poopy.<p> tools. Indy on Imax tonight at 9pm! got my tickets printout out right now.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST


    by auraboy

    Logical, well, if logic means ignoring the second film, then sure. Obviously a liquid metal being is a silly stretch, but turning into a sphere of equal size wouldn't do much logically, unless John Connor was always running away down really steep hills. Legs have propulsion and grip. Balls need pushing. So maybe it could have turned into a sphere with a leg that emerges every now and then to give it a running start and then steer it occasionally. Hmm. <p> Logically however, maybe T3 was spot on. I can't remember as it was such a badly acted, plotted, cast, scored, lit, CGI'd piece of daytime soap bollocks I couldn't really hold onto the logic.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    It's always worth shitting on

    by auraboy

    marketing bumpf.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight

    by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    you are insane. plot holes or no, T2 is one of the best action/sci fi movies ever made. T3 was a cheap, cop out, cash in, ripoff. but, you know, i respect your opinion on the matter.<p>you're just insane is all.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    and launch itself towards them and in mid-air, turn into a multi-tipped arrow?

  • May 23, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Pow! Pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow!!!!!

  • May 23, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    blonde midget marketing whores are the worst

    by just pillow talk

    Though on the plus side, they fit nicely in my bottom drawer.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    i thought they meant "the future Connor"

    by mansep

    as in, a version of Connor from the future.... yeah that's a really badly written release. i had to read it twice and eventhough i now understand the sentence structure i don't really get any sense of what they intend to do. If you're not going to release something that we can understand and get behind then don't bother releasing anything at all.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    t3 is NOT consistent with t1

    by veebeeyes

    Example 1: The T-X goes back in time with a list of targets to kill, and ACTUALLY KILLS THEM! How is that consistent with The Terminator, in which EVERYTHING that happens is leading towards the future that The Terminator is trying to change? If the T-X killed its target, how the fuck was it supposed to know that that was who to kill?

  • May 23, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Coming soon

    by auraboy

    We had the terminator, a robot disguised as a human, albeit one with a weird austrian accent and the social skills of hitlers retarded uncle, one, looking identical, because frankly if you didn't spot Arnie the first time around, why waste all that flesh? Then the Termanatrix, a blonde with a nice ass, to distract the humans from the mindless plot surrounding her cybercunt (which probably had little whirring razor blades in anyway). Next it's the Terminoid. A robot disguised as a giant CGI killing machine. Because clearly people are just dumb.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    Blond Midget Marketing Whores are bad, But PSYCHO BLONDE MIDGET ARMED WITH KNIFE MARKETING WHORES are much worse. <P>Especially those that hang around with 3 breasted martian women.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Jarv - I'll take my chances if the marketing whores

    by just pillow talk

    are hanging around three breasted women. 2 hands and 1 mouth = WIN.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg

    by Parallax

    I'll see this flick just for her. I've had a massive crush on Charlotte Gainsbourg ever since "The Science of Sleep."

  • May 23, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Marcus Wright is...

    by Rei-Ginsei android, with a bomb in his rib cage!<p> Anybody else remember that one?

  • May 23, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST


    by PedroM

    Beautiful girl! <br> You guys should listen to her album, 5:55. Great songs, great voice on her!

  • May 23, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    What was wrong with Claire Danes?

    by photoboy

    Gainsbourg ain't exactly the hottest woman they could have hired.

  • May 23, 2008, 10 a.m. CST


    by DaBUU

    "where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind." What secret can be worse than ANNIHILATION OF THE HUMAN KIND? Smells like cheese, I'll pass.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST


    by MolaRambo

    surviving judgement day, in a fridge, with Blakey, his little pet prairiedog.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Can't a Terminator film exist without time travel?

    by Lucasblows

    Just tell a fucking war story!

  • May 23, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Kate Brewster character is in it . . . so I'm out.

    by kabong

    T3 was enough soap opera. <p> Also, it smells like they're transforming Terminators into Cylons.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by seagrass

    What an ass he is. I bet he FUBAR's this good and proper.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Mcg is an amazing director...

    by listo65

    I saw this expirimental film that he did a few years back, it was a hairy turd floating around on screen for an hour and a half. It was held up by a fishing line. There were also lazers and I think cameron diaz was in it.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Skynet has been working on it for a while...

    by SenatorNado

    ... our end:

  • May 23, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    So John Connor marries Sinead O'Connor

    by kafka07

    my guess is he goes back in time to get her, or else she's gonna be like 50 in 2018.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    But does John Connor encounter aliens and a UFO?

    by SpyGuy

    Hell, throw in a psychic Russian chick as well. And anyone who doesn't like it will quickly be denounced as a Hater that doesn't know how to have fun.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST


    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Seriously.<p>And DAMN YOU, George Lucas! Damn you to hell!

  • May 23, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Seems Overthought to the Point of Boring

    by cowboyone

    When Cameron was running the show, he had the right idea. A great BACKSTORY to EXPLAIN the killer robot ... but keep the focus on the cool-ass killer robot. All this new gen Terminator shit is missing the point. Too bad.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    The plot sound GREAT

    by Sithdan

    My kind of movie. I can't wait.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by The Marquis de Side 3


  • May 23, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    PG13 McG FÁ

    by David Cloverfield

  • May 23, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Cairo

  • May 23, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    Total bullshit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Fuck those two Halcyon guys.

  • May 23, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    omg Charlotte

    by Holgi65

    can't believe it, someone pinch me...

  • May 23, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    It's gonna be better than Indy, that's for sure

    by performingmonkey

    I can't get the sour taste out of my mouth after seeing Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The last 20 minutes of the movie...I want them erased from my memory forever!

  • May 23, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    But don't forget, the film has COMMON!

    by BLEST

    See, doesn't that make the nonsense story, PG-13 rating, and McGhey directing all better now?<p>Seriously, I'd love this to be good, but the project sounds doomed. C'mon Arnie, if Sly can do it, Bruce can do it (though he's a little younger), and Harrison can do it, you can do it. Get out of office, slap these punks around, and get a proper T4 made. <p>You know, like you did with T3.....oh. Hmm...

  • May 23, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    I always thought the Matrix

    by CherryValance

    had to have been inspired by the Terminator movies. It always seemed to me that it was their version of what happened between the events of the films and the first Terminator being sent. Isn't the whole backstory on how Zion and all that crapped happened something about a war with machines who had taken over? I'd say these movies would have to be close to the Matrix in some way. It can't be helped.

  • May 23, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    The terrible secret behind the annihilation of mankind

    by moondoggy2u

    Judgement Day was really Skynet's cold, logical attempt at creating one cohesive front against the future ascension of Ape Overlords.

  • May 23, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST

    What was wrong with Claire Danes? Well, I'll tellya...

    by Zeke25:17

    Imagine a future in which you can have any android you desire made for you...attractive, intelligent, very humanlike in all respects; but there's still that sensation that you're dealing with something ultimately as plastic and cold as a mannequin. Maybe it's her eyes or something...but I've always got that vibe off Claire, even though I did kinda like her in T3. Now Charlotte, on the other hand, can spin her web over me whenever she wants!

  • May 23, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg

    by malpaso

    Lookie like Hell.

  • May 23, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Let's See

    by nicegoogly

    No one has to worry about the paradoxes. All three films are replete with them. Every reviewer that gave a positive review (especially for T-2) acknowledged the paradoxes but still enjoyed the film. It is entertainment and some of us should lighten up on that issue. Remember, flames on Optimus was not what made Transgenders a terrible movie. There was a lot of assholes responsible for the shit along with Michael Bay. This is just filming now and we have a cryptic (read as crappy) sentence about what this movie will be about. I am not saying it won't be shit, the PG-13 might as well say there is some corn in this turd, but I hope this turns out well (I can't bring myself to expect greatness out of this, as much as I love Bale).

  • May 23, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg

    by Don Lockwood

    They had to search to find such a crappy picture of her. It was on the second page of a GIS. She's not bad looking really and I understand she can actually act which is usually a plus, but in this movie will probably only serve to cause her more pain as she delivers her lines and wonders what the hell she got herself in to.

  • May 23, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Marcus? Gears Of War Much.

    by spidermanfreak20

    Marcus Phoenix is a Gears of War character...Sigh. I have a feeling Sarah Connor is alive and Linda Hamilton will make an appearance at the end of this. We never did see her body in the coffin. She probably went into the future to fight alongside her husband and John.

  • May 23, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    I bet Bale's just cashing in

    by abcdefz7

    In an interview regarding THE PRESTIGE, Jackman said Bale pulled him aside and asked how he renegotiated his contract as Wolverine after the first X-Men. I'm betting the real payday is promised in the second franchise (WOLVERINE or TERMINTATOR, as the case may be).

  • May 23, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by Sithdan

    The brilliance of the Terminator movies is that everything that transpired in those movies is coming to pass. We are relying on technology more and more. Because human beings are fallible, so is its technology. Just recently a computer defeated one of the world's greatest chess grandmasters in his own game. Already machines have the ability to strategize and contemplate. I think it's only time before we create a "Frankenstein's monster" and it costs us big time.

  • May 23, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    The Terrible Secret is...

    by Chanoc

    Arnold as T-800 telling Connor: "John, I am your father"

  • May 23, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by hollywoodsummers

    and it sound like this probably will too.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Hated Matrix 2 more

    by Sithdan

    What was the point of Matrix Reloaded? If you think about it, it was all filler. Most of the characters (the ghost twins, their boss) vanished in the third movie, and when Neo's girlfriend dies, she's resurrected only to bite the bullet again in part 3. Her death seemed repetitive. The second Matrix was just a two-hour advertisement for the third film. The W. Bros. had enough material for one film but wanted to round it out with a trilogy and fluffed up part 2. If I recall, Matrix Reloaded didn't even have a climax. It just ended right in the middle of the action and said "to be continued." What a letdown. At least the third one had closure, but the original is still the best.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I never thought of it that way, Sithdan

    by Cotton McKnight

    because I have always thought the Matrix 2 and 3 were terrible. But if you condensed them into one movie, it wouldn't be THAT bad. The second one has so much filler it's ridiculous, and the third is basically an action picture. In any event, 2 and 3 are terrible successors to the original, no matter how much editing and condensing you do. To this day, I find it extremely peculiar that all of these fights happen within the matrix (such as that freeway chase in part 2), and yet NOBODY is affected by it. There are no signs of chaos or "end of the world" prophecies. The oracle says "all those stories you hear about vampires and ghosts? Those are errant programs" or whatever. Well why not show how people are reacting to that within the Matrix? Because to them, all holy hell must be breaking lose. Keanu is flying all over the place..

  • May 23, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    About the terminator sphere thing..

    by Cotton McKnight

    I think if a terminator gets a running start and then turns into a ball, then it would work. Momentum carries them the rest of the way. The point is, for something that is liquid metal, the terminator is extremely limited in what it chooses to do. Kind of like how all star trek aliens have weird foreheads. I understand that there are special effect restraints but THEY brought it up as a plot point, so I as a movie watcher am left to think about things like that. T2 was "cool" but T3 actually moved the story forward.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST


    by random dude

  • May 23, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    and whoever said that the terminator should be a spring..

    by Cotton McKnight

    that's a good idea. that's kind of funny.. and disturbing. Seriously though, why the hell not? Why is it always human? Oh boy, his arm turns into a giant knife. That's the best you can do? Why not just envelope John Connor (Or Arnold) and crush them to death. I would think that liquid metal could do that.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Highly Anticipated?

    by otm shank

    Not if it's PG-13 it ain't.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Wait, is this a musical???

    by Mecha Gene Shalit

    The dude from Newsies, the chick from Serge, the director from Charlie's Angels and the plotline from me noggin.

  • May 23, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Straight to DVD

    by Giant Ape Balls

    Or at least it should be.

  • May 23, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I'm not going to let this die...

    by The Eskimo

    Get rid of old Arnire and make Vin Deisal the new terminator prototype of whatever. Or it could be someone else. All I'm saying is that a Bad Ass, ripped-muscles killing machine was the whole reason the franchise was successful in the first place. Why was the Sarah Conner Chronicles so well receive...for the acting. NOT! For the hot-ass bad-ass terminatrix. This franchise needs some fresh faces. Getting Bale is a good start, and Vin would be a good fit for the role. Old Arnie not so much anymore. I could get excited about this if they seroulsy were going revamp the thing.

  • May 23, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Yet another franchise dies a horrible death.

    by DarthScotland

    I hope to be pleasantly surprised but this is gonna suck balls.

  • May 23, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Okay logical T2 balls

    by auraboy

    I'm not convinced of the logical ball theory of T2 lameness. I mean, let's forget the poor logic of having made a robot that looks like as conspicuous as Arnie for a start (logic isn't exactly the franchise selling point admittedly), the T-1000 couldn't expand or reduce it's mass, so, logically, the amount that made up a Robert patrick size individual wouldn't make much of a sphere in size and the logistics of it's slow metamorphosis would mean it'd still have to have long run ups all the time before gaining anything like the momentum for a metal sphere to roll around, and again, a perfectly smooth sphere would have no method of control or directional ability so again it'd require John Connor to only ever escape down perfectly smooth straight corridors with no turns to be effective as a killing technique. It'd still need to develop legs now and then. There's a reason most land animals evolved limbs - they're the most useful solution to moving at varying speeds over varying distances. I get the logic might seem dictated by the needs of the plot, sfx and having cast an actor but, seriously, if you're going to be seriously nerdy about it, the human design works out. Maybe turning into a Cheetah or something would have made more sense, but I'm not sure how thundercats would have gone down with the killing machine crowd. <p> But hey, I really have plenty of time on my hands clearly to even think about something as pointless as that! Sufficed to say T3 was a bad episode of some lame tv series masquerading as a film. There wasn't a single line of dialogue or quality acting, sfx or cinematography in it. And T2, for all it's many, many flaws, had some hardcore epic photography and even acting in it. A sense of something a little more going on. T3 was just like a bad film students attempt to make a terminator film aged 12. <p> So really, this new trilogy desperately sounds like it wants to be more Matrix than terminator. If it somehow turns out great, hell, I'll watch it. I think Bale is great and there are few sci-fi mythos that are worth a bit more investigation than the Terminator. But if it ends up as a Machines secret plan versus last stand of humanity epic adventure, it's basically admitting it wants to be The Matrix with a little LOTR three film quest blather thrown in. I think we all got burnt when the Matrix sequels turned out to be wandering filler. It's not even the PG-13 thing that worries me so much, it just sounds, even at this early stage, to have put it's hands up and said, 'I want some of that trilogy money please.' I'm not remotely in favour of fan-boy geeks (er like me I guess) bitching about everything before it's even made, but if there's absolutely no excitement in the premise, it doesn't bode well for the films. It doesn't even seem like these can be a let down, because nobody even seems to care at this stage. <p> I know it's geekdom to want it, but surely a bloody, nasty, dystopian vision of mankinds last stand in the future, an Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia of total self annhilation, humans living off rats and desperately staying awake and distrustful of eachother as they wonder who will suddenly stand up and start slaughtering children without emotion seems like the sort of film that could actually be visually great and maybe even say something about war, survival and hope amongst bleakness... <p> Wow. I need to stop drinking so early. Fucking hell.

  • May 23, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST

    John Connor psychologist

    by auraboy

    So John you have father issues? <p> yeah, I gave my Dad a picture of my mom, sent him back in time and made sure he didn't have any condoms, with the cryptic message not to cum on her face but get the whole load in there, as I only get one chance. <p> Poor fuck. That's therapy for life right there.

  • May 23, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Concept art

    by chuffsterUK

  • May 23, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    The Conundrum

    by Giant Ape Balls

    The wierd thing is I'm intrigued as to the history and stories of John Connor and the human resistance. However, I know it can't live up to what I'd imagined. I'm not saying my idea is better, ut it's jus not what going to be what I would hope. It's the lesson I learnt from the Star Wars prequels.

  • May 23, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg Needs a Sandwich

    by TheBladehelm

    Can Harry send some of his extra food he won't be eating because of his surgery to this chick, man she looks like a stiff breeze would snap her in half. Yuck!

  • May 23, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST


    by Giant Ape Balls

    I'm obviously drunk.

  • May 23, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    what the fuck?

    by BurgerKing

    Since when could people come from the past into the future in Terminator world? The idea of Connor not fully trusting this new guy is interesting and him being from either past or future is definitely cool, but takes the story too far away from what we want. FUCKING TERMINATORS.

  • May 23, 2008, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Terminator-Arisen Son the video game.

    by theonecalledshoe

    That's not intended as an insult either.

  • May 23, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST


    by TheDudeintheShadows


  • May 23, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    what the crap?

    by BadMrWonka

    christian bale signs onto this turd salad, and now a respectable actress?<p>god, money really is the root of all evil...

  • May 23, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Might as well call this flick

    by xX_BlackThorne_Xx

    Terminator 4: The Search For More Money

  • May 23, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    McG? T4? Why????????

    by romanocc

    The series ended on a good note with T2 in 1991, why this franchise was resurrected I will never know. Cameron knows how to pull off these big budget movies, cause he still pays attention to characters, and still does the explosions, action, CGI to appease the ADD crowd. McG will make this a cheesy movie, and the characters will be lame, and it will be another forgettable summer movie. Come on Hollywood, SW, Indy, Terminator were all great film series, let them rest in peace with some dignity.

  • May 23, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Harry declares T4 reminds him of his childhood

    by EbertsFatThumb

  • May 23, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    T3 ruined the franchise

    by Bat185

    Terminator 3 ruined the franchise by screwing up the continuity. The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgement Day both stated that Skynet was a defense system. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines stated this at the beginning but by the end of the movie it said that Skynet was a software virus. Also, this "virus" did not start the war. It was the TX. T3 was the one with the plotholes, NOT T2. The only thing that T2 got wrong from the first movie is when Sarah carved "No Fate" on the table and John said it was part of a speech that he had Kyle recite to Sarah back in 1984. Kyle never said "There is no fate but what we make for ourselves." That's the only mistake T2 made, but it didn't take away from how great the movie was. T3 was OK, but not great because of all the changes, plus Arnold's corny one-liners.

  • May 23, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    so if the lord of the ring's movies were...

    by chainsaw1974

    about walking.then it's safe to say the terminator movies were about running?

  • May 23, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Too much prejudice

    by mowgli77

    I don't understand why everyone doesn't just ignore Terminator 3 and pretend it never happened. It's that easy. <p>See, now Bale's Terminator is a lot easier to digest.</p>

  • May 24, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Time Travel Creates Multiple Timelines

    by bswise

    So, yeah, eventually, there will be robots and humans going back to, and returning from, the past and future every few minutes. They would duplicate themselves exponentially along the way as timelines crossed and tangled, which would ultimately lead to robots and humans emerging at Every Frakking Point In Time! At this point of quantum singularity, Our Reality will collapse, triggering a massive energy wave that will cause the union of biological and artificial intelligence, as well as other untold evolution/creation in our little solar system.

  • May 24, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    It dosen't sound like 3 movies worth of plot

    by pokadoo

    I don't like the sound of this 'stranger' crap. Just wanna see John Conner & Kyle Reese blasting Terminators, Hunter Killers etc. The flash-forwards in T & T2 (& Sarah Connercles) were always very cool.

  • May 24, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Hm...I'm totally unenthused.

    by Sithtastic

    The terminator series is supposed to be something of an adult "B-movie" grown up into a violent blockbuster. What it definitely isn't is a PG-13 "let's tie in with the Summer Glau wank fest tv show" vehicle.

  • May 24, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Shit Sandwich

    by Skraggo

    Jesus, this sounds like a shit sandwich. This once great franchise is about one sequel or spin-off away from turning into the fucking fiasco that is the Highlander universe. Enough with the time travel!!!! And we certainly don't need this death row character. It's fucking simple! John Connor, Kyle Reese, and the human resistance fighting the machines! That's the only sequel/prequel in this series that any of us have wanted to see since T2. And really, only Cameron is qualified to make it. This shit is what fucking happens when you contrive a movie by committee.

  • May 24, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg???

    by SpencerTrilby

    That's an odd choice... I hope she's picking her american projects better than her husband Yvan Attal who played in masterpieces like The Interpreter or Rush Hour 3... Those are two of the most talented French actors, let's hope she won't tarnish her reputation in a shameful flick. Fingers crossed.

  • May 24, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Charlotte, ma cheri!

    by MilesGloriosus

    Holy merde! Charlotte Gainsbourg, absolutely the smokin-hottest actress in the French cinema, is going to grace a blockbuster American movie? Drew, Leelee, and Love Hewitt got nuthin' on Charlotte. Check her out on the Web if you don't believe it. Charlotte, dump that Yvan Attal guy and come to Miles! :-) Kiss kiss ...

  • May 24, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    So Claire Danes is now French?

    by army_of_me

    Pretty odd... then again, Charlotte is definitely crushworthy... except in that picture (yikes)

  • May 24, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    I hate press releases

    by disfigurehead

    They hype up crap. I work at Di$ney I should know.

  • May 24, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    so he discovers the Statue of Liberty in the sand

    by Maniaq

    in the end, huh? <p> DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!

  • May 24, 2008, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Bat185... no fate is in deleted scene

    by MurderMostFowl

    Reese talking about "No fate but what we make" is in a deleted scene from T1 after they hide out in the storm drain. Of course, even without the deleted scene to back that up, did you really think it was out of place from Reese's character? It makes sense in T2, even if we didn't see hiim say it "on screen". I couldn't stand T3, and I might give this one a chance. The TV show seems to have done alright with their storyline so far. So... meh... why not?

  • May 25, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Why would Bale do this?

    by kevred

    It all seems so third-rate. This is like something from an alternate-reality Bale who never did Batman. "Starring the washed-up actor who was once in American Psycho."<p>Hope it's great and he does well, but it's all kind of a mystery at this point. It's gone from two successful movies to a tired, forgettable third movie to a mediocre TV show, losing all of its stars...and NOW it's a film again?

  • May 25, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Damn you IndustryKiller!

    by IndustryKillers Bain

    Damn you IndustryKiller!

  • May 26, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Charlotte Gainsbourg is ugly as FUCK.

    by Galactic

    That bitch looks like buttsex personified. They couldn't even get a hot chick for this movie? The first time I saw her horseface in Science of Sleep I was like "God damn I hope she's not in this movie for long." Unfortunately she played a huge part in that otherwise cool movie.

  • May 26, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    I love Charlotte Gainsbourg!!!

    by BV

    Fucking awesome!

  • May 26, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Just give us...

    by Perro_Maldito

    the damned battle between the terminators and humans that we've been waiting for years FFS and CUT THE CRAP!!!

  • May 28, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Getting back to "Bowling Ball T2"

    by irritable

    ... instead of auraboy's solution (legs that intermittently come out the side and help it over rough ground) T2's genitalia could telescope out into a huge Pogo Stick - that way T2 could cover uneven ground quickly and still be Cinematic and Badass in the best way.<p> Just a thought.