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Bale (Officially) = Connor In Three TERMINATOR Movies!!
Merrick here...
We've known for a while that Christian Bale is playing John Connor in McG's now-in-production TERMINATOR film. Early indications suggested Bale would appear throughout a proposed trilogy of films...although nothing seemed set in stone.
Now comes confirmation that Bale has formally signed on to play Connor in three TERMINATOR movies.
"he read the script and he loved it, so he's signed on for all three."
...says producer Victor Kubicek in THIS ARTICLE on BBC's website.
Of course, Bale signing onto TERMINATOR SALVATION doesn't guarantee subsequent films will be made - that'll depend on a variety of factors, primarily (and obviously) box office.
Without Arnie in a (at least substantive)...who knows? Fox's TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES (with principal roles in the TERMINATOR mythos recast) didn't generate stellar ratings...although (thankfully) it'll be back for a second season. Which makes me happy...I liked the series quite a bit.
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got into the series.
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series to warrant a second stab. The final ep alone with the balls to play that Cash song for that hotel killing spree was worth it, a nice line in dark humour.
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is going to jump the shark...
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Never happens!
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You know, because of the McG thing and all.<br><br> The series was a touch better than T3. But I got bored after the 3rd ep and never caught up. Maybe when the Blu-Ray hits I'll give it another peek.
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These reeks of Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions. <p> Fucking McG? Do I really have to call a grown man McG? That and he sucks as a director.
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I will never ever in a million years understand the hate for Charlie's Angels. The fight scenes are imaginative, the pacing is off the charts. It's a brilliant piece of pop art and I can watch it a million times without getting bored. It's funny, action-packed, and the girls are hot. Back in the real world everyone I know, loves the movie. But on this site, the geeks hate it. Even if you dislike the movie, you've gotta admit, "stylistically" it's amazing. If McG matches substance with style on the Terminator movies, they could be great. I, for one, think he's an inspired choice and the combo of McG and Bale has gotten me more excited than ever for these movies. And BTW, Sarah Connor Chronicles rules.
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of sci-fi franchises. Did they milk that premise for all it was worth, till it was worth little.
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as I have little knowledge of producers/directors and the man is a cock. Most of his stuff is utter shit. Lets hope he surprises me with this eh. Get a fucking decent script writer, that's all you need McG, all you need.
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May 21, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST
So when are we going to get the Terminator cartoon then?
by Reel American Hero
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Seriously, why does everything have to franchised out till we cant even enjoy the original films so overpowering is the stench from unwanted prequels and sequels.
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Or maybe Christian Balee? Christian Bail? How the fuck does this guy...unarguably a very in-demand talent...sign on for 3 sequels in a then 6 picture franchise? I can't wrap my head around that bullshit! A great script? Yeah...more like a great script and an even better daily supply of blowjobs for-fucking-ever. I swear this isn't the same Bale...has anybody asked the guy? I mean I'm just being a dumbass here but holy shit...say the words out loud if you have to...Bale signed on for 3 fucking Terminator movies and this is after that fucking mega-retarded "termanatrix"? (i cringe and roll my eyes at the same time every time i even see that word...honest to blog!!!). Ok...someone explode my head scanner-style...I just said 'honest to blog' and must pay. Sorry.
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actually pulled in great numbers as far as ratings go. do your research
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No more sequels, No more reboots, and NO MCG
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I'm keeping my money for Avatar.
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As well as a good script you need a good director. Unfortunately McG is directing.
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which is a real shame for an otherwise excellent site...
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outta this shit
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Insssth-ane robot-ssssth from the future!
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with a gay ass name. His movies suck. Charlies Angels was a pile of shit. Only James Cameron and Arnold together can make a successful Terminator movie. That was apparent with T3. McG needs to find something else to fuck up.
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Hollywood as an industry is creatively dead. You have anomalies at the top here and there, but mostly you have people fixated on the bottom line. And when you need a guaranteed increase in stock price for the shareholders (or else face FEC consequences), another 10 Terminator movies (or 9 Shreks) look a lot safer. It's too bad we live in a system where the TRULY creative and intelligent people are all under the reins of these business-school dropouts (not that the graduates are much better).
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Yeah, no thanks. It's not a Terminator movie unless it's a hard R, just like PG-13 Die Hard 4 wasn't a Die Hard movie. The gritty and brutal feel of the first two Terminator movies is what made them so awesome.
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but christ all mighty this sounds like dog shit!
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the movies will probably be alright but why is he wasting time on a uninspired franchise that should have ended with T2. Instead he should make another three batmans. Or how about batman 3, batman vs superman, and justice league? At least Marvel is striving for some continuity in their film universe.
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its all sequels now... i think in a way AICN is partly responsible.
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I think he's very good, and I loved BB and think TDK will surpass it as "the greatest comic book movie" to date.<p>Bale was good in Equilibrium, and very good in The Prestige.<p>But he's not an Oscar caliber actor of renown. He's more like a modern Harrison Ford. <p>He can be serious and credible in a drama, like Ford in his streak of "good films", like Patriot Games, Fugitive, Witness, etc..<p>And he can be an iconic lead in big budget stuff, like Ford in Indy or Star Wars. (bale's got Batman, and now Terminator)<p>But Bale is not some pinnacle of great acting. Hate to say it, but he gets far too much fanboy love. I'm one of the fanboys that loves him, not a hater.<p>His involment alone isn't guarenteeing this won't be a turd burger.<p>That said, it'd be so awesome if he filmed for like 3 weeks and said: "Contract be damned, I'm not working on this crap film for this raging loony homo!"<p>McG would be pwnt, Terminator franchise would keep a little dignity, Bale would be the man.<p>*wakes up* Darn. Bale just wants the money, doesn't he? Oh well...
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Yes, he has a stupid name and Cameron Díaz achieved epic proportions of annoyance on Charlie's Angels, but come on, he's not Michael Bay, nor Emmerich. He's not even a Brett Ratner. He did a lot of cool over the top shit in those Angels movies and I think all the stupid crap he pulled off was very very intentional. <p> The only thing that worries me is the PG-13 thing. I think I'm getting a little tired of harmless cleansed horror and action. I want to see some Terminator action, not Punchinator of Offscreenterminatingtor. Cheers.
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Go fuck yourself Merrick.
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Almost everybody I know loved Charlie's Angels too. Even listened to the audio commentary and McG seems like a nice enough guy. Supernatural also rocks. I don't get the problem with McG. I also never heard any other reason for the hate other then the "silly name" and Charlie's Angels is "shit". Ridiculously close minded from them - especially as the world was kind enough to accept comic books as literature.
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This bums me out, no joke.
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Whatever you may think of Bay for Transformers, Armegeddon, and The Island (all good/okay sci-fi films by the way)he did direct The Rock and Bad Boys.<p>He can do hard R action and has a little experience with cheezy sci-fi.<p>Between him and McG, with a gun to my head and if I HAD to pick between the two for the future of Terminator, I'd pick Bay in a second.
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That way, if the first movie sucks ass because they choose to cripple it with a PG-13 rating and the studio opts not to invest the money in making two more shitfests, at least Bale will get paid a bundle and then go back to making kick-ass movies.
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Anyone who says that is overrated is an idiot. PATRICK BATEMAN
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You truly, honest to God, prefer Bay over McG? For a Terminator movie starring Christian Bale? I can picture a sidekick. A Comic Relief Terminator breakdancing. Or an AWESOME chase sequence where I can't understand what the hell is going on except for some awesome car flipping in the air. It also has a generic Bruckheimer soundtrack and a lot of slow motion TV spot warm photography. Oh and a flag<p> A Bay Terminator movie is pretty much a nightmare, whereas McG staged very impressive set pieces where I could actually understand what was going on. He has the great lead, I hope the script is great. Let them release an R rated movie and count me the fuck in. Oh, and let there never be the words BAY and TERMINATOR on the same sentence, ever again. Thank you.
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I didn't "vouch" for it, it was more of a guilty pleasure. I know the show is kind of cheesy. As for Bale, I'm still not 100% on board for these new movies. McG and no Arnold... That makes me nervous.
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I bet they pull an Aliens vs. Predator, where they convince themselves that the first one bombed because it wasn't R-rated. So, for the second round, they still have the same limp, shitty writing, but they'll throw in a little more violence and profanity and think THAT is what the audience wants. Hollywood is fucking clueless, not to mention soulless, it isn't even funny.
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Until recently, I would have agreed that Bale is overrated--his work in Batman and the Prestige was aight enough, but nothing that grabbed me by the intestines. However, RESCUE DAWN proved otherswise. With a great director like Herzog, the man IS capable of amazing work. Also heard he was fantastic in THE MACHINIST, which I still need to see. <P> Now, on the on the other hand, Joseph McGinty Nichol (which is a fine name, really, especially for a grown-up person with a job and everything), has hardly proven himself to be anything more than another studio wonder-hack. Charlie's Angels had but one good thing going for it, and his name is Bill Murray, who wisely sat out the unwatchable sequel to go do quality, like Translation, Life Aquatic and Broken Flowers. This is definitely a make-it-or-break-it moment for the Man Who Would Be McG.
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Neither can maintain dramatic narrative build up. At least older action directors knew how to keep the drama happening. Spielberg, Cameron, etc Fuckn 3 movies, shit. I want to piss on the script for this PG shitfest. Piss
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Grow up.
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"I also never heard any other reason for the hate other then the "silly name" and Charlie's Angels is "shit"." <p> Yeah, his movies suck. What other reason do I need to not like a director? <p> Does he need to come over my house and bukake my mom until I'm officially able to not like him?
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yeah
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But, this show had buildup and character development... explosions were few and far between... how could your 14 year old son sit through something like that, Merrick? I mean, Sarah Connor Chronicles was DEFINITELY slower paced than the Indy 4 trailer. Please explain.
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If you are planning a trilogy, then film all 3 movies like they did with LOTR. Imagine if they had only filmed Fellowship, and it had bombed, so we never got to see the rest of the story? Did The Golden Compass teach you people nothing?
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... one of the movies is the 2-hour, Warholian "John Connor Takes a Long Nap."
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I didn't say it before, but I'll say it now. You guys just hate charlie's Angels because you're scared of women. end of story. It's the same fucking reason you all hate death proof.
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One of the best written shows on television ever and I'm sure you all hate that too. Scared of women, I tell ya.
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...Sex in the City. <p> There. I said it.
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May 21, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST
Three consecutive bombs! Bale will be the Jordan of bombs now
by donwillymo
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If that were true, wouldn't everybody on this talkback hate Alien/Aliens? Ripley's one of the strongest characters in the history of cinema, and she has a huge fanboy following. The fact is, people hate Charlie's Angels because it sucked balls.
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or in addition to. Fun Stuff.
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Sex and the City is a fabulous show! I thoroughly enjoy shaving my taint to the exploits of those overdressed hags! And Charlie's Angels? Fuggetaboutit! Such style, such charisma! Diaz doing nothing but shaking her ass for 2 hours was WONDERFUL! I hope McG can inject some of his hot-beef mangirl influence and colour into the drab and dull world of ol' Termmy!
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I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
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Subserviant beings become self aware and overthrow their creators/masters and war is waged. The earth is nearly destroyed via nuclear weapons, and the human survivors live in a post apocolyptic world hunted by those they, at one time, controlled. Hell, "Escape From.." even throws in the time travel element, which provides the back story and eventual leader of the rebellion. And look how the Apes franchise fared. How they can drag this post-apocolypse storyline over 3 films is beyond me.
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That's one of my favorite parts of my favorite book of all time. (Hence my nick).
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Invisible Touch. That is all.
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Invisible Touch is awesome. Along with Duke, Abacab, and Genesis.
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Think no substance, cheap-ass, none of it meaning anything etc. This is his last chance to show everyone he's got something there.
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than Invisible touch. Something In the air tonight is a close second.
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May 21, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST
Check Out my post in the rambo TB this morning and see how much
by HitchCock'n'Balz
Merrick should thank me...or not ...whatevs...Ain't it Cool rules even if it is a tad slow...
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McG is no Nolen.
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T3 was kind of okay but never felt like a Terminator movie for some reason. For me, T1 and T2 were all that I needed. And they rocked the house! Without James Cameron, there is no Terminator worth seeing. Especially a PG-13 one.
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Very nice MasterBateman
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I feel silly defending these movies. I just think the criticism for it usually isn't that valid. It's like some geek talking about The Little Mermaid - what pussy shit is this? They sing in it? No cursing? Unrealistic action? Talking crab? No respect for the source material? Get the fuck out! What a piece of shit! Destroy the copies! Sign this petition to surgically remove the creators testicles! CA was a POPCORN FLICK - silly premise, hot, popular chicks,fast vehicles, insane action, beautiful intense photography and music, and some pop culture nods. And honestly, when you sat down, did you really expect to like it? You knew you hate it when you've seen the first cutesy trailers. "Yuck, it's for the masses. Where's a superhero to masturbate to?" You weren't the target audience, just like you weren't for Little Mermaid for example. The target audience loved it. Now his doing something for you guys. You should give him shot. Or cry like a baby about your childhood. Whatever.
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Heh.
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C'mon, John Connor? Patrick Bateman, Batman (Wow how similar is that name and I only just saw the connection...wow...)Surely with his brilliant American Psycho dead eyed stare and ability to bulk up like fuck Bateman was born to play a soulless automaton killing machine. I mean, John floppy haired Connor -the world's least impressive saviour figure, with a serious Oedipus issue (alright not strictly but he sends some kid in his command back in time to screw his mother so he'll be born and if that doesn't warrant serious couch time I don't know what does...) <p> Bateman, I mean Bale always said he'd do big Hollywood films as long as it gave him enough money to fuck off and do his small time stuff without worrying. He's a lot like Daniel Craig in that regard. But seriously he should be the Terminator. <p> Or maybe just don't make these films. I understand he starved himself for eighteen months to get down to that sickeningly emaciated holocaust look in the Machinist but some tortures are just too far...
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May 21, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST
Oh boy...I feel somethin'...somethin's brewing....inside of me..
by ChickenGeorgeVII
McG!!!!! McG!!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!! McG IS THE BESTEST THING TO EVER WALK AND FLOAT AND EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE OR ANY ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!!!! THE MERE MENTION OF HIS NAME MAKES ME SOIL MY DRAWERS WITH THE HAPPINESS OF A LITTLE GIRL SUCKING ON A RAINBOW LOLLYPOP!!!!! I WANNA SQUEAL IT TO EVERYONE!!!! WE MAUST ALL TAKE TO THE STREETS!!!! PRAISE THE NAME McG!!!!! PRAISE HIM MIGHTILY!!!! FOR McG! IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS LIFE...AND EVERY OTHER LIFE TOO!!!! McG! IS WARM CORNBREAD, HEROIN AND A SUPERBALL ALL ROLLED UP INTO ONE BIG HAPPY SHINY BOUNCT THING THAT FILLS YOUR STOMACH AND GETS YOU HIGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! McG!!!! McG!!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!! RUN TO YOUR GRANDMA!!! PUNCH HER IN THE TIT! AND SCREAM ALLLLL HAAAIIIILLLLLL McG!!!!!!!! SING IT WITH ME NOW!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!!!.....And thus, I wanna sniff his poop! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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Someone's obviously never seen American Psycho. He owned that role and I doubt anyone would've been able to match his performance. Bale is one of the few true actors around anymore in that he can pull off subtleties of character, which show he actually immerses himself in his portrayals and doesn't just "pull faces." Like nearly every single other actor in Hollywood these days. <p> I'm sure you'll come back with a list of actors you think are better than Bale, and you may be correct on some of them, but the bottom line is that list would be a very short one.
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The reason T3 feels less like a terminator is because only the first act occurs at night. Everyone knows that the best terminator stuff happens at night. The crane truck chase was good though, but I wasn't ready to accept that TX could control other vehicles remotely. I just didn't buy that shit.
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But why not try and get a decent director this time. Mostow in the place of Cameron is like putting McG in the place of Coppola.
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Disney Movie Soundtrack = Aural Gold
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for American Psycho!
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Three very successful movies all rated R. Now reduced to watered down throw away teen action movies. It didn't work with AVP, it didn't work with Die Hard, and it will not work with this.
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a flaming homo, i got nothing against gay people, but i have partied with this guy and w his gay friends, and HE is the most annoying kid i have ever met. Fuck him I hate him, fuck that show
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If this turns out to be PG-13 and not R it will BLOW. Bale or no Bale.
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May 21, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST
I'm a little late in this conversation but...McG...
by Laughing Irishman
Not so bad, he's done Chuck, The OC, Fastlane, We Are Marshall, and Supernatural, all VERY good films/shows in their own right.
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I cannot imagine anyone else ever as the face and beautiful soulless acid insanity of Patrick Bateman, even if the film was shit, he owned that role so completely it would have been oscar material if the subject matter hadn't been so repulsive to most people. Oh and the film so average. Bale really isn't a big action hero actor, which is why his casting in Batman just plain works. He acts everyone off screen in a laid back manner. <p> I just doubt even a superb actor can rescue what appears to be a totally lame prospect. But, hey, maybe he knows something we don't.
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So you like to "party" huh? <p>
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It's true; it's going to be PG-13. (I'm too lazy to see if anybody's posted this yet anyway, but here's the link: http://www.variety.com/VR1117985086.html ) "The 'Terminator' series is one of the highest-grossing R-rated franchises of all time, with the first three films having grossed more than $1.03 billion worldwide. But Halcyon producers thought it was time to broaden the upcoming fourth film's audience base, and they believe the PG-13 won't compromise the series' gritty vision." "The ratings have changed," said Halcyon co-founder and co-CEO Victor Kubicek, a broker-turned-writer-producer. "The PG-13 has increased in intensity." I hate this bullshit about how much movie ratings have changed, and how PG-13 is the next R. Come on! You'd never see a guard at a looney hospital stabbed through the eye with a sword-like object in a PG-13 movie, and I'm sure scenes like Sarah Connor's dream sequence would have to be butchered too, considering how intense and graphic and kickass it was.
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Bale should have won an oscar as a 13 year old in Spielberg's Empire of the Sun...the motherfucker knows his shit and has since before any of us knew what we wanted to do in life...I will watch anything he decides to make, and be glad I have the chance.
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May 21, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST
Bale is a dumb shit, If hes smart he should know that Terminator
by fisheater
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somebody will write the definitive history of how Hollywood went to shit. I'll read it.
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Cameron: The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, True Lies, Titanic. McG: Charlie's Angels, Charlie's Angels 2, The OC, Fastlane, Supernatural, The Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search For the Next Doll. Hmmmm, yeah ok then.
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is totally fucked now. A great sequel would be an oxymoron today, considering the vomit being thrown at us. Remaking 2001 or Citizen Kane? Dont joke coz that shit will happen
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I watched Neil Marshall's Doomsday the other day and not only did I think it sucked, but the gore started to annoy me. A rabbit blows up, then a head epxplodes, then someone gets gutted, then decapitated. Gore has been pushed to the limits. Honestly, I wouldn't miss it if Hollywood banned blood all together. PG-13 doesn't mean that the new Terminator movies will suck. It means they might actually be about something other than heads exploding (i.e. AvP: R)
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Hollywood went completely to shit when idiots made the first Spider Man and Pirates Of The Carribean hits. From that point on we were given a steady stream of ca-ca.
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Or PG-13 means it will be the Terminator equivalent of King Arthur.
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Fuck off McG, isnt TV the most relevant point made here. If there was talent he would be making movies, but hes not so dont worry, McG will die out like
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Always was, always will be, no matter who's at the helm. I've liked all the incarnations, including the crappy comic mashups and the lightweight TV show. Anyone who thinks it's more than fun junk needs to get James Cameron out of his/her mouth.
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It was also a massive P.C. piece of shite. It wasted time because they couldn't afford any SFX and Summer Glau is everywhere. She will star in everything for the next 10 years, even in roles that don't suit her because her name is SUMMER GLAU!!! The only thing that saved that show was Lena Headey who I could watch with just her doing a shit in a bucket for a 22 episode season. 45 mins per episode...
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Of course T-T3 had R rated level violence and profanity. But, and there are exceptions (the police station massacre), mostly the killing were innocent bystanders who got in the way or had something a terminator wanted. It wasn't THAT bad.<p>This future war is going to be dozens, hundreds of humans being rounded up like cattle and disposed of, being blown to shit and hunted down. And you mean to tell me no one's going to say "FUCK!" through all of that? Die Hard 4 sucked because of the PG-13 (among other reasons) and even the unrated DVD that added a few "fucks" here and there still had the "feel" of a PG-13 movie.</p><p>I'm not a gore-hound but movies need to have the freedom to tell the story that needs to be told.</p>
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It's going to be PG-13, mainly, I think, to sell action figures. Plus, that crazy "Sarah Cronicles" series has introduced the Terminator series to a new (younger) generation of fans. Pretty soon, the R rating will probably be extinct and all action movies will be watered-down like "Speed 2: Crusie Control" and "Robocop Three." Add to everything else that that douchebag who did "Charlie's Angels," the epitome of lame, watered-down PG-13 action, will be directing this. It's sure to suck. No doubt about.
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That's all it takes to silence the Bale haters.
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May 21, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST
If they really want to revitalize the terminator series...
by fassbinder79
...Fire McG and hire one of these directors instead: 1. Alphonso Cuaron 2. George Miller 4. Simon West 5. David R. Ellis
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movie geeks with hard ons for 80s and genre movies are killing film. im part of the prolem
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3 more movies I won't have to pay to watch.
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You are probably right, although to be fair he says he was always known as McG, even back in grade school.
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The problem is all these idiotic remakes and sequels. Indy for example is 20 years too late. Why can't they come up with something new for a change?
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One of the best working today, but I can't, for the life of me, see why he'd do this for any reason other than a big, juicy paycheck. I'd like to see Bale and Nolan make more non-Batman flicks together, because The Prestige was fucking brilliant (and only suffered from a woefully miscast Scarlett Johansson).
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Terminator is fun junk? Terminator is at the pinnacle of its genre. I hate pretentious fucks who are ashamed to say something sci-fi/action based is great cinema. Charlies angels is fun junk, the mummy is fun junk, not the fucking terminator you utter utter cunt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsRN70XXxo
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I second you on Bale but I suspect that he maybe always wanted to be an action star. Nic Cage named himself after a comic book character. Pacino always wanted to comedy. Maybe is living out his dream. Maybe as a kid he wanted to star in a terminator movie...And now he is getting his chance.
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referring to the romantic comedy trailer for Terminator as seen on You Tube. He couldn't have possible meant Cameron's Terminator.
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May 21, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST
Now there's an idea..Planet Of The Apes Vs. Terminator
by Reel American Hero
Who will win in the war between monkey and machine?
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Yo, I ain’t milquetoast
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Having weighed in when everyone ad the bitchfest about them casting Common for the next film, I'll not rehash my disdain for the whole mess, but I will say this: Hollywood seems to be gorging on 'too little too late' syndrome of late, and slapping a PG-13 on this bodes ill. It's sad how apparently there are precious few of us who actually care if a movie is good.
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C'mon, don't let us down.
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Which genre is that? The time-traveling-monosyllabic-steroidal-cyborg-tries-to-kill-big-haired-squeaky-voiced-LA-waitress-mom-to-future-savoir-of-mankind genre? Look guys, I enjoy "Terminator" as much as any of you good sirs here, but a lot of you sound like Bateman on Phil Collins when you rhapsodize Cameron's efforts and spit on the rest. Get some perspective; "Terminator" is not the second coming of Christ or even genre movies, but itself a fun riff by an ex-Corman studios guy (coming off of "Piranha 2: The Spawning") on a mishmash of early '80s B-movie sci-fi concepts, including the robots-that-look-human type of Regan-era crap that we as kids had to put up because at the time only Stan Winston muppets and not CGI were all that was available to erase half of Schwazenegger's face. The "Terminator" franchise is, like the titular character, durable, bad-acting and bad-dialog resistant and still capable of generating lots of *fun* -- yes, there I said it, something as trivial and unworthy of basement-dwelling geek-worship as *fun*. I liked "T3," including its borrowed "Planet of the Apes 2" ending, I like the TV show and its junky "Incredible Hulk" throwback nature, and I'll probably like whatever was so allegedly awesome about the script that caused Bale to sign on for three movies. I guess ultimately what I'm trying to say is: can't wait, such a huge fan. Good day, gentlemen.
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Fuckin Hollywood never heard of closure? As in Star Wars, The Matrix,Lord of the ring dings and so on? Just wrap all loose ends with this one or like one of the posters said, do a Robocop vs Terminator movie. McG is worse than Brett Ratner and Bay combined. Even Cameron knew when it was time to move on.
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please God make it so....
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Logan's Run + Fahrenheit 451 + The Matrix. The the fight at the end, the hand to hand fight with guns in their hands was fucking silly. But Bale was great in it. Was that ever even released in theaters or what? I completly missed it.
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Just junk. That said, McG does OK with "Chuck."
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Then I have a little hope for this. Just a little. The PG-13 thing just about killed it for me.
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For the first time over the weekend. Wow. Absolutely hilarious. A true relief, actually, as I've lately been on a bad movie binge, checking out films with notoriously bad reputations that I hadn't seen (Epic Movie, Leonard Part 6, Mac and Me) and those films were, for the most part, just painful. Thus proving my theory that the worst bad films are usually comedies; if a drama (or any other 'serious' genre) film is terrible, you can usually laugh at its insanity, how it misses the mark in its awful attempts at sincerity and whatnot. With a bad comedy, however, there are very few laughs; they're just painful experiences. Gymkata was absolutely awful, but I had a hell of a time watching it.
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is a guilty pleasure. Not that I own it or anything but I kind of liked it. Mostly because of Bill Murray, Sam Rockwell and for different reasons, Drew Barrymore.
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Mark my words.
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Bale Rules & I might like Terminator as much as when I was a kid. This sounds promising!
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The PG version can play in theaters for the kids.
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I think that would work well...
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"The humans are dead. We used poisonous gases. And we poisoned their asses. The humans are dead. (Yes they are dead.) The humans are dead. (I confirm they are dead.) It had to be done. (They look like they’re dead.) So that we could have fun. (I poked one, it was dead.) Their system of oppression. What did it lead to? Global robot depression. Robots ruled by people. They had so much aggression. That we just had to kill them. Had to shut their systems down. <Robo Captain, Don't you see? By killing the humans, we are becoming just like- I mean, it's ironic. Silence! Destroy him! No!> After time we grew strong. Developed cognitive powers. They made us work for too long. For unreasonable hours. Our programming determined. That the most efficient answer. Was to shut their motherboard-fucking systems dow-ow-ow-a-own. <Can't we just talk to the humans? A little understanding could make things better. Can't we talk to the humans and work together, now?> No! Because they are dead! I said the humans are dead. (I'm glad that they're dead.) The humans are dead. (I noticed they're dead.) We used poisonous gases. (With traces of lead.) To poison their asses. (Actually, their lungs.) Binary solo: 0000001 00000011 0000001 00000011! 0000001 0h, 0h! 0000001 0h, 0h! 0000001 0h, 0h! 0000001! 0ne, 0h! Once again without emotion: The humans are dead-dead-dead-dead-dead-dead-dead-dead-d--* (shut off)
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T2 (aka T2: OLD YELLER, aka T2: WE WUV WOO ROBODADDY!) being the nadir of the Terminator saga.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Actually I doubt Euwe Boll could fuck up a Terminator movie! i know Roland Emerdick could coz he'd put too much weather in it but a fucking cockroach could do it all be it with a tiny camera crew! Just hit [REC] and set off lots of S'Plosions, move the Endo-bots around and have a bit more S'Plodin stuff! <P>Multiply by three, get Arnie to say ''Hi I am Robot-god, Job Done!
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Fuck you if you can't see that. T3 was cinematic shit and all signs point to the same for T4 except for THE BALE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING BALE? I LOVE AND TERMINATOR, BUT CHRIST GET OUT MAN!!!
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"Terminator vs Predator", obviously.
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That's it. I want you dead now, you little shit. Come on, just tell me something, ANYTHING - just express some sort of opinion!<p>Anything other than your tired old 'Damn You Michael Bay' riff. <p>All other talkbackers - please help me out here...
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search your feelings, you KNOW it to be true.
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Yay, so it's not just me!<p>Billy, I hate this little prick, too. An open missive to all AICNers - can anyone recollect a posting from MCMLXXVI that said something other than 'Damn You Michael Bay'?<p>If not, Harry, can you permanently delete this little prick's account?
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It doesn't matter if Bale's signed up for three, after one McG film, it won't matter anymore, will it?
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Because the story focused on the building of the John Connor myth. Which tells me the focus this time will be on the men, and not so much the machines. (ie. what made them great and revered) For this reason, I don't think you'll see any big stars (read Arnie) appear as Terminators. Except possibly a cameo at a crucial point in the story arc.
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I think Bale is great, but with a tidal wave of negatives to swim against, any effort he makes will be like trying to perform CPR on a skeleton.
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Yeah, the guy's a millionaire, but I suspect if you throw $30 or $40 million more at him, he'll maybe compromise some of his artistic principles and do a movie that sucks. He has done enough good ones that his conscious can be clear and he can still buy up a few parcels in Malibu....good for him, but I'm staying away.
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Agree wholeheartedly. The only thing better about T2 are the efx, and if that is the yardstick especially, T3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T2: OLD YELLER as well. Hey, come to think of it, T3 had a cooler story too. It amped up the camp factor and featured the best set pieces of the series, and had a dark ending! <br><br> Truly is T2 that is the worst of the series. THE WORST!
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T2 had characters and a story and emotion. Yes, the Terminator was good and had to die at the end. I don't see any connection to that and "Old Yeller", no matter how much of a dick you're trying to be. <p>T3 did to T2 what Alien 3 did to Aliens (coincidentally both Cameron films) shit on them. Negated everything in them in favor of its own continuity. Unlike T2, which had a middle act with actual dialog and emotion, T3 was a 1 1/2 hour chase scene. Admittedly the last 10 minutes were good.</p>
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Failing to kill John Conner in any shape or form in the 20th and 21st centuries, SkyNet sends Terminators back to 1585 at the colony of Roanoke to kill John Conner's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather. With not much more than flint-locks and sticks, Skynet will surely succeed this time!!<br><br>Coming soon<br> Terminator 7: EDEN
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I dont give a shit, who cares about the films? The timeline has been screwed about with too much.
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Don't hate the Haters, Hate Michael Bay. MCMLXXVI is the shit. makes me laugh every time...
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A retarded hacked out story and schmaltzy over-the-top unintentionally hilarious emotion that only a 10 year old could take seriously as representing any kind of even remotely adult emotional response. So many scenes of high camp that are played with such gravitas its hard not to bust out laughing at it.<br><br>At least T3 knew it was silly and played to that (resizable roboboobs!)... and then winds up being rather dark at the end. So much better than T2. Sorry.
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and make something else new! enough with cashing in on past franchises! i even hate indy 4 on principle. c-r-e-a-t-e s-o-m-e-t-h-i-n-g n-e-w!!!
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The whole story is right there. Nothing else needed to be said. BUT, things being as they are in a post-industrial dying capitalist nation state, all money making operations must continue excreting product until the inevitable end when all interest has faded. Then wait a few years. Then REHASH!
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Probably won't bother with the new movie(s) until they hit Bu Ray.
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He just seems so far above it.
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but Bale doesnt make stupid career choices, He honestly has never been in a bad movie (reign of fire wasnt good, but it wasnt bad) Im sure he will have alot of creative input for this movie and im sure McG will listen to him after Bale's pull with Dark knight
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Oh yeah, DRAGONS. They should have put a few dragons in the movie. That would have made it a good dragon movie.
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May 21, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST
"TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BAST
by jimmay
I've been gay for Bale ever since I first saw American Psycho 8 years ago. A more potent and timely satire of the wanton arrogance of American materialism and wealth has never since, or before, graced the screen.
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And Terminator 4 has every sign of being teh suck supreme, Bale or not.
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Terminator 3 sucked.
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That McG (I think that name is the source of his problems) can actually direct a film. Bale signing on for three films could suggest two things: 1) that the script is actually half-decent. Or 2) Bale has the sort of hard-on for the original Terminator movies that Ewan McGregor had for the original Star Wars movies (and as we all know the presence of some very good actors didn't save THOSE movies from being rubbish). I'm hoping it's the former.
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How you can make anything with TERMINATORS that dull is beyond me.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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They should ditch the films and just stick to the show.
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In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself. Hey Paul!
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The original is far superior, tiny budget and all. The effects in part 2 are ground breaking but Linda Hamilton is shrill, terrible and unbelievable in her role, Furlong is annoying, and the decision to play Arnold "good" leaves a hideous, can't-we-all-just-get-along taste.
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solid, if slightly uncharismatic star.
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Does this guy have a name? Sounds like what Ronald McDonald would call himself if he started wearing platinum jewelry and rapping.
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Get over yourself. You still have your preciosu memories. Remakes will never stop. If you don't want to see them, then don't! Look, in the 50's they remade 30's movies. In the 60's they remade a bunch of 40's movies and so on. In Twenty years some dipshit will remake that Ashton Kutcher Vegas abortion that was just released. It's just the way pop art goes.
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Seriously. I guess you are the same people that loved that piece of shit SPEED RACER...<p>And stating that T3 is better than T2 just makes it more ridiculous...<p>Thanks for listening, you fucking morons.
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Much like the ALIEN movies...should have quit while they were ahead!
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Like the OT, the backstory was better left to the imagination, even though it gave glimpses of it. Michael Biehn 4EVER!!!
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I'm notletting this go. It think it's a good idea until someone say otherwise!!!
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I was over the whole "let's remake everything from 20 years ago" thing when Charlies Angels came out and was not expecting to like it at all - I was literally dragged to the theatre to watch it - and you know what? <p> I actually didn't mind it. <p> For me it was the self-aware nature of the parody - sure they knew the movie was goofy and a little too cheesy for its own good, but they occasionally winked at you to let you know they were in on the joke. <p> So I figured maybe this McG is ok after all - unfortunately his sequel proved me wrong. Apparently he did a decent job on some other movie so I guess he's hit and miss... <p> Point being both of the original films from these franchises were "fun junk" as you say. <p> Only thing is, I'm not sure giving the same "in-joke" treatment that worked for Charlies Angels will necessarily work on a PG-13 Terminator film...??
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It never made any sense that these infiltration cyborgs all looked the same anyway but to be honest i'd rather it was McG free...
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...involved in the Terminator picture from what I heard. The reason was decided against Vin by The Governator at the early stage. The studios, including W.Bro and The Halcyon Co. wanted Vin, but when The Governator heard about it, found out about it, he personally met with Vin and it was a mutual decision. Don't know if this story was true but Arnie still has the last word in the casting process and they will respect him in all regards of this trilogy...at least that's what I heard. It was also rumored that he will play a cameo or a small part in the series...possibly in T5 or T6.
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no thanks. not getting my money.
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I love the work Bale does, so I am very interested. I will admit I thought McG was a terrible director based on Charlies Angels 1. That flick was horrible. However I enjoyed We are Marshall. Sure it was a fairly formulaic sports movie, but it was shot competently. To be honest if the script on this movie is good competent direction is really all it will need. Now having said all that, if this is PG-13 Warner Bros can go fuck themselves with a rubber fist.
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I would even watch a movie with him sitting on a fucking stone for 2 hours! He shines in everything hes in and doesn't get nearly enough credit for his talent. HELLO? BEST ACTOR OF HIS GENERATION!?!
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Just a thought. I think he could pull it off great.
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Maybe he shouldn't get so tied up in trilogies and such, give him more time to do other films. I mean the times when he shined the most in recent years were his other films (The Prestige, I'm Not There, Rescue Dawn, Yuma).
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But even great actors make bad decisions.
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..just kill the damn director
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I hope there's a song and dance number
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Conner doesn't die in the first two films. Remember that when you're watching them, and he appears to be in grave danger.
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People are defending the director of the new Terminator series by pointing out the Charlie's Angels films?! Bad Director + PG-13 Rating + adding rappers to the cast (Common) = a horrible film that will ruin the series. I love Bale - but he cannot save this movie against all the other factors. Impossible. I can't believe Bale did not bail yet. what is he thinking? he usually makes great career choices.
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I agree with you. He probably is the best actor of his generation. That's why I can't believe he signed on for this. But now I'm intrigued. He must think he can do something different with it.
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I don't know if McG will direct a first film worth watching or not. I suppose I ought to give him a chance, but the fact everyone already knows the "Terminator: Salvation" trilogy is going to be PG-13 really ruins it for me.<p> Honestly, PG-13? For a franchise as bone shatteringly, cop killingly bloody as science fiction gets? Nah. I'm still bitter about that studio decision. People can argue that ratings don't matter, but I fundamentally disagree.<p> Example: a terminator faces off against a group of futuristic human soldiers. The R-rated version shows the soldiers getting mowed down with the long, fat terminator gun, getting sawed in half by rapid fire bullets as blood flies everywhere and soldiers die in agonizing pain as they fall to the earth, dead. In contrast, the PG-13 version shows a closeup of the terminator opening fire, several sweeping quick-cut shots of soldiers falling (no blood, no getting cut in half), then a closeup of a soldier's dead face.<p> See the difference? It's less graphic, less scary, less "holy shit!" It's the soccer mom version. Which is very disappointing and short-sighted of the studio.<p> I love Bale, but I'm shaking my head about the lost possibilites here.
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May 22, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST
Because one PG-13 rapper-co-star shitfest isn't enough for Bale.
by Veraxus
So we don't just get one big steaming helping of PG-13 Terminator shitloaf, but three? You gotta be fucking kidding.
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May 22, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST
Everyone involve in this mess should move on and forget about th
by barnaby jones
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The only thing that makes me curious about the film is that given his penchant for picking great scripts, he must have seen something with a fair amount of potential when he read it.
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For reasons that should be obvious, this interests me. But how could you top the original?
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Not even batman can get me to see this
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He Goes back in time to murder people!.......all off-screen of course.
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Hopefully Arnold can come back! There's no law that says a governor can't act on the weekends or during a vacation. hey film fans -- there's a funny new blog on blogspot from a disgruntled tv producer. it's called thebitterproducer
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Anyone who thinks he is overrated is wrong. But opinions are like assholes...
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Bale: "This future war is like a big CHICKEN... waiting to be PLUCKED.."
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