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Well, we've seen quite a bit of bad buzz of DEEP BLUE SEA, and that poster from DARK HORIZON wasn't too... encouraging. The first trailer just didn't do it for audiences (at least the ones I saw it with). But... Ya know what. I hadn't seen this shark yet, and ya know... It looks really cool here. I ain't saying that it'll kick our ass, that the sharks are friggin awesome or anything like that. I'm just saying that... In the following picture... The shark looks awesome. I hadn't seen this image before, but if you have seen it elsewhere, post it in Talk Back, and when I see it, I'll update here. But until then I have to thank, Jenz... the man with the coolness.
Ya know... So far, in Renny Harlin movies, My problem has almost always laid with his villians. They just didn't work for me. But... maybe these sharks will. I'm holding off till we hear from Test Screenings.... Here ya go...
Apparently this pic first appeared in the latest issue of EMPIRE magazine. An excellent British movie mag, check it out!
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This pic was in the latest (July 1999) issue of 'Empire'. It's a British movie magazine, and the issue with the pic in was released a couple of days ago. The picture's on P105, in their preview of the movies out in the remainder of this year.
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Or did you and Jenz pirate it?
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.......whether they got permission or not. What, are you gonna turn them in for a spot in the next Star Wars movie ?
You're looking at my new screensaver here !!!!!!
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May 30, 1999 8:28:00 AM CDT
This scene is from When anamatronic sharks go bad volume 3 on FO
by spike lee
All jokes aside, this film has top talent all around, so it might be a decent film, but just don't compare it to Jaws.
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Makes me crave for a Jaws Special Edition with a realistic (CGI or otherwise re-composited) "Bruce", aka the floating turd.
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I've seen this in tons of mags already. whatever
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I have a friend working on this film and happen to know that as we speak, the people in post have been ordered to revamp this movie so that it gets a PG rating. Apparently, the producers believe that this is something that must be done in order to get the audience they need to get their money back. I know how I feel about this, but I'm wondering if anyone else out there has any comments regarding this mutation.
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As a Warner Film, aren't you obligated to like it?
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OK, it's time for me to come out of the closet. I've always... well, y'know, really, he's... aw hell. I'll just say it. I LIKE RENNY HARLIN MOVIES. Die Hard 2 was OK (even though the least of the three). Cutthroat Island was actually kind of fun. Long Kiss Goodnight rocked. The guy was married to Geena Davis, so he must have been doing something right. And now he's doing a full-out, Jaws meets Aliens goofy monster flick. Good! Most posters on this site bent over backwards to give the Mummy the benefit of the doubt (and were rewarded in the end), and all Sommers had on his resume was Deep Rising! So why not Renny and Deep Blue Sea? C'mon people. Let's give the ole Viking one more chance.
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after all, I was bitten in half by a 25 foot Great White.
Anyway, I am looking forward to this film. Yes, Jaws is my favorite movie. No, I don't think this film will even compare. But I'll be damned if that isn't an awesome pic up there. As for the poster that said it was being cut for a PG rating... Jaws was PG, but PG in '75 is much different than PG nowadays. That was back before the PG-13 rating and it's amazing what you could get away with while still using the PG rating back then. I've seen so many '70s horror trailers that go something like, "See acts that will make your stomach crawl... if you dare! See sadistic torture, see wild mutilations the likes of which will haunt your nightmares for the rest of your natural life. Coming soon to a theater near you. Rated PG." If Jaws was made today, the exact same movie, it would be R. Cussing, nudity and gore. I mean, when they show it on TNT it has a TV-14 rating! A TV-14 rating on a PG movie!!! After they cut out all the swear words!!! Are they fuckin' stupid?!?!? So, I think that cutting the gore and cussing and nudity out of this film to garner the PG rating would be a huge mistake.
When do I get to use my harpoon gun on the guy/gal who said that Bruce looked totally fake in Jaws? I mean, it looks friggin' awesome! Plus do you honestly think CGI would make Bruce look better? I think not.
Anyway, this is AICN's resident crusty seaman signing off for now.
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May 30, 1999 2:29:40 PM CDT
This movie sounds incredibly corny, especially the PG rating, if
by paragonian
The only good thing about Deep Rising was the violence, this sounds like a Jaws 3 and 4 combined with Deep Rising without the violence, you can count me out. Samuel L. Jackson's in it though and Cliffhanger's one of the greatest action films ever, but LL Cool J's in it too and Harlin also made Nightmare on Elm Street 4, so it'll be close. PG and PG-13 is for kids and really stupid adults which doesn't include me. By the way, I also really want a special edition dvd of Jaws, CG would've ruined that movie like it ruins most of todays. Another thing I was wondering is if Akiva Goldsman (or whatever his name is) is the producer that wants a PG, what a SCHMUCK!
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I'm betting this is gonna suck. I've developed a skill for telling how good or bad a movie will be by judging it's trailer, and the first trailer was plain old wack!
With the exception of CuttThroat Island (one of the worst films ever) I liked most of Harlin's flicks. He's actually dropped the ball less times than McTiernan now, so.. we'll see if this Jaws 5 is any good. The new trailer will decide it for me.
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I saw a new trailer the other day and this looks very jurrasic park, a PG rating would suck as I think this movie could be cool. I have seen a picture with definite bloodshed and footage of peop;e getting bitten by sharks so who knows
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Jaws 5? I suppose by virtue of having sharks in the flick, 'First Strike' might be called, what, Jaws 4 1/2? I don't see much else that Jaws and DBS have in common save for sharks and water. Maybe I need to develop a stronger sense of myopic cynicism in order to properly view the connection.
I haven't seen a trailer for this yet, but the images are quite exciting. The storyline? Eh, I could take or leave it. (let's enhance the brain of a predator that peaked in its evolution millions of years ago, and study it in a submerged environment where it is adapted as opposed to an inland research laboratory. What could possibly go wrong?) Not sterling writing, but I can't get over the awesome animatronic sharks in this one. Plus, I enjoy watching animal-research advocates gobbled up by their own tortured subjects. Woo hoo! Now someone needs to write a movie where Proctor & Gamble engineers are trodden on my immense, Night of the Lepus size bunnies.
Anyway, this one's really up in the air. Renny's hit or miss. I'll probably see it regardless of the press it gets. I have faith that sharks will cause more than a handful of damp theatre seats.
I've seen sharks while diving & snorkling in the ocean. Even a while after they had disappeared and I was heading for the boat...brrr, those last few feet before I was out of the water became extremely tense. I dunno. I know sharks aren't really mindless eating machines, but I always feel like food when in the water. -
May 30, 1999 4:52:34 PM CDT
Does the shark have frickin' lasers on its head? No? Not inter
by bundren
By the way, that's Thomas Jane, aka Todd from Boogie Nights (the guy who comes up with the idea for that robbery) in the picture there. Supposedly, he did some shots with real sharks and blood in the water.
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Well, i myself am looking forward to see DBS, since i am and have always been since my childhood a big shark fan, especially Carcharodon Carcharias (Great White) sharks and the extinct Carcharodon Megalodon (the ancesstor of the Great White and much bigger than a Great White).
Jaws is one of my all time favs too.
I like the Idea of Genetically mutated Sharks breaking loose in an underwater lab, although it kind of reminds me of some elements of Jaws 3D. However, if this movie is to succeed, they should stick to the gore and violence in the movie. A PG rating is not a good Idea.
There is another Jaws-ripoff movie coming soon called "Lake Placid" , that has what seems to be a giant Baracuda/Eel-looking creature (In non-salty waters?). Kind of like an Evil Lochness monster. I downloaded the Trailer from Dark Horizons, and it looks like a popcorn movie, but it looks a bit cheezy. For Instance, they ripped off the Helicopter Attack from Jaws 2, it seems. Also, the whole setting of the movie , the Lake itself reminds me of "The Raft" story from CREEPSHOW 2. Hmm...i'll have to wait and see.
Another, movie that i am patiently hoping to see is "MEGALODON", if it is able to get out of the water.. ;) Its GIANT Jaws movie..sort of like Jurrasic Park meets Jaws (a huge prehistoric shark)?? I read somewhere, i can't remember exacly where, that in the initial script the openning sequence shows a T-Rex standing near a beach (millions of years ago), maybe drinking or something..not sure...and then suddenly, it gets mauled and eaten by a Megalodon shark. I like that...its kind of like T-Rex is like food to a Megalodon. I just hope this movie gets made, and its all dependant on whether the new Shark-movie, Deep Blue Sea, brings in cash!! I sure hope so.
Later,
SCORPION
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I saw the poster for Deep Blue Sea on Dark Horizons and that has to be THE WORST DAMN POSTER I HAVE EVER SEEN. I understand that sex sells but when you have people like Sam Jackson in the cast, put him on the damn poster. Not just some stupid cleavage showing picture of Saffron Burrows, an actress nobody's ever heard of anyway. The shark alone would be better. Warner Bros., if you have any marketing sense left, change the damn poster NOW!
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I think Renny Harlin is one of the best action directors working today, far better than fucking Michael Bay anyway, but who isn
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Will you stop harping on about Bruce being shite? "Jaws" featured one of the most realistic looking creatures ever put on film. Absolutely nothing was wrong with it at all. At least it didn't look like a shimmery, glistening hunk of spunk, which is how all CGI effects look today (yes, even Jar Jar((ESPECIALLY Jar Jar))). Computer effects haven't moved an inch since "The Abyss".
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It's ABking's time to talk. First, DEEP BLUE SEA is going to "KICK major ASS". It's going to be a BLOCKBUSTER. The teaser trailer ROCKED (I don't know what the hell all of you are talking about). The new 2 minute trailer will be even better. I think the poster looks COOL (sex does sell). Renny Harlin is one of the BEST action directors in the world and he has made three of the GREATEST action films ever with CLIFFHANGER, DIE HARD 2 and THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT. A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 4 was AWESOME and CUTTHROAT ISLAND was fun to watch (not the greatest film in the world but not the worst). When THE MATRIX and THE MUMMY were coming out, all I heard was how bad they were going to be. Now all I hear is how great they are. When DBS comes out, it will shut people up because it will be one of the best thrill rides this Summer, possibly ever. That's all I have to say for now.
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This is from the WB Deep Blue Sea web site: http://www.wb-deepbluesea.com/img/dbsteaseronesheet.jpg
That would be the crappy poster, and I have to agree; it looks pretty lame judging just from the one-sheet (haven't seen the trailer yet).
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Earlier, someone said they were looking forward to "Megalodon." All I have to say is, be careful what you wish for; you just might get it. The book, "Meg," was one of the worst things I've ever read in my life! It's one of those "How come this guy got a book deal and I can't?" type of books. Really.
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The Long Kiss Goodnight, Cliffhanger both have GREAT VILLIANS. Cutthroat, die hard 2 villians are ok.
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As one example, I suggest the pro-Bruce team re-watch the scene where Bruce jumps the boat and starts chomping away at Quint. Bruce is very rubbery and bouncy in that one. There was even a joke about "The shark still looks fake" in the Amblin'-produced Back to the Future II, so you can all start harpooning Spielberg while you're all at it. The legend of the rubber shark exits because...surprise...it's true that in a number of shots he looks fake. Bruce looked good enough for its time....now I want a real-looking Bruce!
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A great white has short, broad equalateral serrated triangles for teeth. The ones in the picture are too long, and have a sideways bend in them - like a mix between two other species. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference, really.I intend to see this movie despite the glaring dental inconsistancies. I agree with Majorhavok about Bruce, but Jaws was a great movie for reasons other than big rubber fish. 'MEG', however was the biggest turd I have ever had the displeasure to read. If you have to read a story about a Megalodon, try finding a copy of 'Extinct'. It's absolute hackwork and completely tossable, but it's a shining beacon of literacy in comparison to 'Meg'.
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i found this pic last week on dark horizons its a little smaller but it is there.
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They're not supposed to look like great white shark teeth because the sharks aren't great whites. I've heard that the sharks in DBS are mutant mako sharks.
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In the picture above, the teeth resemble those of a Mako shark. However, the Body of that Shark is a Great White sharks body. Mako sharks have bright-silvery bellies, but Great Whites have that creamy-white belly. It is unique to Great Whites only. I have seen other DBS shark pictures and they all look different than this picture, they look like a cross between a Mako and a Great White. What i mean is that they have the form of Mako (though weird looking ...hence mutated), and the colors of a Great White. But i have read that the DBS movie has both Great Whites and Makos, not only Makos throughout the movie.
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In other words, they look like a whole new species- exactly what you'd expect from a mutated animal. This kind of attention to detail is what makes me go all tingly inside. Deep Blue will rock! Just you watch.
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May 31, 1999 6:02:16 AM CDT
*ahem*(this is the subject line I use when I don't know what to
by stardust8
I'm going to attempt to respond to all the posts here(all the ones with any respectably important content at least)
Yes, the picture looks friggin awesome. No, having both water and sharks does NOT make it a Jaws ripoff. Yes, Bruce looked positively fantastic, and if the sharks in DBS all look like the picture above, then they will certainly be liegible for comparison to Bruce. No, this should not be rated PG, because if they're trying to be like Jaws, they're doing a really awful job;Jaws would be "R" if it were released today, as Quint(whose post was by far the most intellient) stated. Just look at the gore, the violence, the nudity(there's actually not that much), the profanity. Geez. If they're TRYING to make their movie like Jaws, they're certainly not doing the grandpa of all shark films justice by rating it PG. Yes, Renny Harlin's films, when all they're quality is averaged out, are okay. not bad, not good, but okay. Maybe this film will tip the scale in the more positive direction. Who knows. And, I will deal with the one issue that annoyed me most right now..IT'S SPELLED LOCH NESS MONSTER, TWO WORDS, NOT ONE, BOTH CAPITOLIZED!! AS A LONGTIME(since first grade) RESEARCHER OF AND BELIEVER IN THE MONSTER, I FIND THIS VERY ANNOYING!! thank you. and no offense to whoever wrote it as "Lochness"(grrrrr...). Also, lake placid is about a giant crocodile, not an evil Loch Ness monster. --star -
Great concept, good visual opening attack, T-rex versus giant shark, shittiest book ever, did this guy do any research? Avoid this stinker like a plague-infected Hudson's Bay blanket given to you by a French guy! It's awful!
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After making one of the GREATEST action movies in the world together, Renny Harlin and Stallone should team-up and make more. They both did that when they made CLIFFHANGER. Cliffhanger was a non-stop, over-the-top stunts and special effects driven masterpiece (the first 10 minutes are still WILD to this day). I think Sly and Renny should re-make GET CARTER together. Everyone says the Michael Caine original is a classic and I think Stallone and Harlin are the perfect people to re-make this film into a new action classic for the turn of the millennium. I wonder if Sly and Renny will ever make a sequel to Cliffhanger. They were going to at one time make the sequel called THE DAM: CLIFFHANGER 2. I think it fell apart. Stallone and Harlin have been linked to a lot of movies together including FREQUENCY, FORMULA ONE (I hope they team to make this race car EPIC), GALE FORCE and JUDGE DREDD (I wish to god Harlin had made this movie. Then it probably wouldn't have turned out to be such a crapfest). I can't wait to see DEEP BLUE SEA. I know that movie will deliver the goods. Harlin spent 100 million to bring this sci-fi action-horror thriller to the screen and I know it will KICK ASS.
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May 31, 1999 1:07:18 PM CDT
All that guy has to do is hit it on the nose and it'll go away.
by paragonian
With a PG rating that's probably what happens.
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What about John Lithgoe in Cliffhanger, if you think he isn't a good villian than you must know some pretty damned scary people.
As for DBS, give it a chance, that shark gives me the sh**ts and even if Harlin has done half a decent job the film should be cool.
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I know everyone's tastes are there own (i.e.: I enjoyed ID4) and I have watched some BAAAAAD movies in my day, but there are only 2 movies (in recent memory) i've had to stop the video because i couldn't handle watching them for ONE-SECOND-MORE, as i think there might have been a point where my intelligence actually may have been insulted to death.
Cutthroat Island
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The (really painfully) Long Kiss Goodnight
It was actually fairly recently that i found out they were both directed by Renny. Now, I recall cliffhanger bieing decent for a Stallone movie, so i doubt he's a total hack, I remember that movie having one of the LAMEST climactic death scenes ever, though... So the guy may not be a total hack, but I really found those to films agonizing to watch.
I'll probably wait for the video...
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Is it true that Renny's sharks have been experimented on in the hopes of finding a cure for Alzheimer's disease? That's so cool. I see all these toothless sharks swimming around saying to Samuel L. Jackson and co., "Which of you guys was I supposed to bite?"
Only Renny Harlin could think of snazzing up _Jaws_ by combining it with _Cocoon_. The man's a genius.
(Does anyone remember the 'Pathetic Sharks', by the way?)
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"Meg" is one of the worst books I have ever read -- I hope whoever edited that book was fired and never works in the industry again. (I can't blame the author, as he clearly doesn't know any better. Did anyone else see his letter to the NY Times complaining about the shellacking his book had taken?) I shuddered to hear that a movie might be coming out based on the story. I agree that "Extinct" is trash but a much better read -- although the ending with the 200' mother shark was a little tough to swallow. Just because "Meg" is about megaladons doesn't mean that a megaladon movie has to be based on "Meg", does it? God, I hope not. With respect to "DBS", "Jaws 3" and "Jaws: The Revenge" cured me of any hope that another shark movie could even come close to "Jaws." Please Steven -- no CGI "enhanced" versions!
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I like Michael Bay movies and i think Renny Harlin movies are a piece of crap.I liked The Rock and Crimson Tide and in it's own way even Armageddon was good in some parts.Besides in summer movies you aren't supposed to use youre brains just watch the effects thats what i do.
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I think Renny Harlin is one of the best action director in Hollywood besides John Woo. As proved from Cliffhanger and Die Hard 2. His technique includes using slow motion and camera angle to shoot the action scenes pretty careful, similar to John Woo's flick. I don't see this kind of scenes in Spielberg or Lucas' films! And I also remember that siskel and ebert gave Die Hard II 2 thumbs up, besides the other two Die Hard films for 1 thump up. Thus I may belief that DBS will either become a blockbuster or else a modesty hit just like Paul Verhoeven did for Starship Troopers ! Oh yah, I almost forgot to mention that Deep Blue Sea is rated R, cause I saw the trailer on tv yesterday as well as on the DBS web site. Ok, I still have one more thing to say ; I hope DBS will be a mega hit, cause I liked Renny Harlin.
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I GOT EATEN BY A SHARK, MOTHAFUKKA!
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