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Learn The All-Star Cast Of DC Universe Supervillains With Which Oliver Queen Must Contend In SUPERMAX!!
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Green Arrow is framed for murder and tossed in Amanda Waller’s metahuman prison with all the superpowered enemies of Superman, Batman, The Flash, The Green Lantern and even Swamp Thing.
That’s the starting point for the script of “Supermax,” the big-screen superhero saga written by Justin Marks and produced by David Goyer (the “Blade” trilogy, “Batman Begins”).
El Mayimbe over at Latino Review has read that script, and offers many details here.
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Unless this thing is being planned or picked up for release in the later future, the Joker and Lex cameos suggest that DC isnt trying to go the new marvel route and establish a shared universe between movies.
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Here's an idea: Why don't you call it Green Arrow and have it not set in a prison.
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How in the hell are they going to get the Joker to be a prisoner?I bet him and Lex get 86'd from the shooting script.
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should please wait until the Nolan/Bale trilogy is completed. Those two are currently making a series so dramatically satisfying, emotionally gripping and philosophically dense, that it would be a shame to not let them finish it unmolested. Then we can engage in this tomfoolery, which I admit does sound fun...
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So this project will suck too.
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Thread over.
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May 19, 2008 10:34:49 PM CDT
dramatically satisfying, emotionally gripping and philosophicall
by proman1984
Are you fucking kidding me?
Batman Begins was NEITHER of those things (and probably mostly because of Goyer). -
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That's all.
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I hope it's the former very much.
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but I don't know if philosophically dense is exactly applicable, though TDK could be a different animal. To each their own though.
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May 19, 2008 10:44:13 PM CDT
Goyer does indeed suck shit through a twist straw but
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
At least this is an attempt to do something interesting. Enough of this same old bullshit. Let Iron Man be the last of that, please. It did it well enough now lets move the fuck on.
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I mean, we're dealing with a story about a guy named Oliver Queen getting thrown into a maximum security prison. Makes sense to me, anyway...
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Won't happen. Won't happen. Won't happen.
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I have some serious doubts about that bit of casting. About the whole project really - I'm getting a Val Kilmer Batman meets Face-Off meets Oz vibe..
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May 19, 2008 10:51:25 PM CDT
Guessing this might set up a Suicide Squad film
by spifftacular squirrel girl
I'm just going to assume that Waller will be impressed by some of the inmates abilities to break out of Supermax and offers them a job.... wham bam, Suicide Squad.
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i loved hanging out there whenever i went to visit my folks in san francisco....who cares about a script...and i like some of goyer's stuff
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ala 'The Cell' (the Punisher story and not the Tarsem movie), that is a no brainer recipe for success.
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May 19, 2008 10:57:07 PM CDT
If DC had a Punisher he woulda killed these lame villains years
by groothewarrior
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he does not need a movie. what about green lantern instead? i don't even know what green lantern does but it could not be worse than green arrow. who shoots arrows with a bow, and does nothing else.
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would know that Green Arrow is far from suck.
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May 19, 2008 11:14:25 PM CDT
Interesting idea, but not the film that will bring.....
by crankyoldguy
the hardcore comics/GA fans in. Maybe some of them, but not as many as the producers probably think. And Goyer sucks, huh? Which of you have sold a screenplay this month? This year? This decade? It's not like he's that hack Akiva Goldsmith.
Goyer's Blade was solid and Batman Begins did a good job drawing from various areas of source material (though Ducard as Ras or visa versa...eh....guess they thought an immortal with Lazarous pit would be too much. yeah, probably for the mass audience). I'd rather see a Green Arrow film of some kind., but even i"m not sure it that would work. On a side note, last year, with my wife and little boy, we saw Justin Hartley from Smallville with his wife and little girl, all of us coming from Enchanted. My son said 'you're Green Arrow' and he said, 'yes I am and talked to me a bit." That impressed me even if his young GA isn't the late 30s to early 40s Ollie I want to see. -
No one outside of comicdom even knows who the hell Green Arrow IS, and they're making a movie about him being in prison with a slew of OTHER heroes villains, whom are ALSO completely unknown to the movie-going public???SHEESH... if Hollywood has THAT much extra cash they need to dump down the toilet, why didn't they just call me and send it to my PayPal account?! >:(
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That he's not a strong enough character for a standard superhero franchise. I mean, he's just a guy who shoots arrows. Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark have cool costumes and toys to play with. I like the overall reasoning behind the Supermax screenplay, but feel that there would be a better concept for the Green Arrow character.
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May 19, 2008 11:19:17 PM CDT
I Like How It's Not A Traditional Superhero Movie...
by troutmaskreplicant
With a supervillian coming up with a nefarious scheme in some big city and then a third act denouement on top of some tall building. But other than that who knows how it'll turn out. Goyer (along with Zak Penn and David Hayter) are go to guys when it comes to comic book adaptations, but they always require co-writers. But who's Justin Marks blowing to get all this work?
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May 19, 2008 11:23:14 PM CDT
Actually Reading Down Through The List Of Villians...
by troutmaskreplicant
It seems more like an X-Men movie in Prison...even though it's D.C. I suppose the X-Men universe is still freshest in my mind.
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May 19, 2008 11:24:24 PM CDT
The only thing that would make this film WORSE is...
by theghostwholurks
If Judd Winick was writing it. Then we'd get 2 hours of Ollie protecting his sensitive — and of course, completely innocent — gay cellmate, The Pied Piper from the likes of Gorilla Grodd and Solomon Grundy. >:P
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Just not a Green Arrow movie. What does WB have against their super heroes being..you know, super?
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It's perfect that they use someone like Green Arrow for this. Apologies to Green Arrow fans aside, but he's a throwaway character. You can fuck with him all you want and nobody will cry 'bloody murder'
The cool thing is it will appeal to a broad audience because it's not a Green Arrow movie, it could be any super-hero. Heck they could just make up a superhero and pull this off.
It's a fun concept story that takes place in a superhero filled world where they can totally fuck with the hero and but hom through some situations you could never get away with with a Batman or Spider-Man.
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and not just some random prison break thing. hopefully they change the title. "Supermax" sounds really dumb.
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Perhaps The name Green Arrow isn't enough to draw huge crowds on name recognition alone, but I hope they retitle this as something other than 'Super Max". That said, this could be good.
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I think Elaine Benes said it best: "I don't care for jewelry on men."
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"Hey, here's an idea! Let's make a Green Arrow movie, except he doesn't shoot any arrows after the first ten minutes, and he doesn't wear a green costume. In fact, he doesn't wear a costume at all!""I dunno, can we sell toys of a lead character in regular street clothes?" "Sure -- we did it with Smallville, didn't we? Just slap on a comic book title, call it a "collectible", and the fan-boys will shell out ridiculous amounts of cash for a wad of plastic. We can't lose!"
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Unless they do a half-assed attempt, like the proposed Jack Black vehicle from a few years back. To me, Green Lantern should be made into a trilogy. First, Emerald Dawn: Hal Jordan rises to become the greatest Green Lantern ever. Emerald Twilight: Hal confronts the Corps and the Guardians after the destruction of his city. Emerald Night (or something): with Jordan gone insane it falls to Kyle Rayner to put an end to it. Of course there could be a second trilogy where Hal Jordan gets redemption. Now, about Supermax, most of those villians aren't even C-listers. Why cant Warner just be faithful to the source material? Nolan's Batman is okay, but it's not incredibly faithful to the comics... not to mention Superman Returns.
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WB is clearly clueless on what to do with their property
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8foottall has it spot on.
Everyone complains about superhero origin films essentially having the same plot points and action beats. Here we're handed an original sounding superhero concept and people start to complain. As 8foottall said, GA is cool and all but he's not got as wide a fanbase or as interesting character that a standard origin film would most likely be mediocre. So we get a prison break out film as well as a superhero film, plus we get a shit load of B and C list villians. Who doesn't love the sound of that? with all these superhero films you get the feeling whilst superheroes are always being created there's rarely any supervillians. Here we'll finally get to see a world where supervillians are as common place as superheroes)
Yes it'll be a shame we won't get to see GA in his suit that much and using his bow and arrow (though come on obviously third act after break out he'll get back into his suit and bow) but if it's in exchange for an original and fantastic sounding superhero flick i'm ok with that. -
Well, hopefully. I'm getting quite sick of origins. Lets do something new.
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If supermax gets the greenlight i'm thinking that'll be a launching point for a the flash script and green lantern script to get a go ahead as well, and they'll all be conected as part of the same DCU. Whilst the batman and supes film universes will stay seperate for now. Like how Spidey will stay seperate from Marvelfilm U due to sony having the rights. That's what i'd do if i were DC anyway.
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Wah-wah-wahhhhhh...
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I hope some of the villains still look abnormal without their costumes (like Solomon Grundy, Killer Croc, etc). I mean, if the baddies are all standard fare underwear models like on Smallville, I'm gonna throw a fit.
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rather than goyer? I'm sure all previous stuff i've read about supermax hasn't mentioned Goyer and has just been saying how Marks is hollywood's new wonderboy and is coming out with great scripts for supermax and voltron etc.
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It's fucking Star Wars meets Superheroes. You don't make a superhero movie, you make a space opera movie whose main character is a superhero. You get Geoff Johns and Dave Gibbons to write it, Johns because he is the only human who has made Hal Jordan interesting and a mythic hero and Gibbons because he writes supporting characters as memorable as any from Star Wars plus he has a great grip on the world/universe aspect of Green Lantern. What you don't do is get the writer/showrunner of Brothers and Sisters to direct the movie. The guy who says anyone can wear the ring, when we know that people are chosen by their ability to overcome fear.
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You guys do realize no one knew who or what Indiana Jones was before Raiders came out. If movies got made based solely on strength of source then hardly any movies would be made.
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Maybe you should read some of the Green Lantern books out now ehh before shouting a stupid opinion. If you read it you might realize it could be the next Star Wars along with it being the best book out now along with Immortal Iron Fist and Captain America.
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you know why they changed his look in Smallville? because the original one looks stupid. he wore the original one in the show as a little in joke at a costume party. Sometimes things have to be changed, unless you're one of those dumbasses that still wants a cloth suited Batman with trunks. The Smallville suit of Green Arrow is about as close as you can get between plausibility of a vigilante and a comic book costume.
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If Nolan's Batman was very faithful to the comics it would suck ass. There was the fantasy side of Batman already, let the real grounded take happen now. Sorry but I don't want to see a cloth suited batman taking on killer croc or clayface going back to his perfectly made cave, that's just retarded.
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arc of last year, written by Ed Brubaker, in which Matt Murdock/DD was sent to prison.
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Mike Grell's run on the book would be preferable.
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Whilst Spidey 1, Spidey 2, Iron Man were all real good movies, they were comic book movies, with comic book movie conventions and beats etc. Batman Begins fucked with that and instead did a Crime Drama with a superhero in it which is what shoudl happen from now on. X-men 2 wasn't much of a comic book movie either and those are the best types.
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Green Lantern is what we need. and the first film based Emerald Dawn is a good idea. Second film, though should bring in Stewart, Gardner and even Kyle at the end. have to question Parllax and rebirth and all working with a mass audience for film; it may just be too convoluted, complex, etc. Yes, John and Gibbons, with a pitch-in from Denny O'Neil who deserves the bucks from Hollywood. And if they wanna toss in Green Arrow in the second film and do a little 'hard travelin'' -that would work. NO Common as Stewart and someone early to mid-30s at least as Hal Jordan, then he can age a bit and Kylle can be the CW-young 20s kid type. A decade ago, Dennis Quaid could've pulled off a Guy Garner, but now...? Anyone have any ideas? For Jordan, I was thinking (as others have) Nathan Fillion, though Matthew Fox might work; the Racer X thing turned out to be not so high profile. It's all about the Green. Lantern over Arrow. Of course, there was the Green Lama back in the Golden Age, even way before crankoldguy's time and get this - A Buddist in the original pulp magazine stories.
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May 20, 2008 12:50:34 AM CDT
Green Arrow's quiver is like MacGuyver's swiss army knife
by liquidken420
Cool thing about using Green Arrow is that he's the sort of character that can pull off a bunch of MacGuyver style shit to escape. I mean, the dude has like 140 different types of arrows in that quiver of his, and always seems to pull out the right one for any given situation. That's the mark of a pretty darn resourceful guy.
Don't tell me that, even without his bow & arrow, he couldn't apply that sort of resourcefulness to escaping from this uber-prison. He may not be genius-guy like Batman or whatever, but he's no dummy and he's pretty resourceful.
I'm sure Goyer came up with the concept and story first, THEN decided on which character to use, and decided Green Arrow was the most appropriate choice. Given the fact that a person is gonna have to pull of some big-time MacGuyver shit to escape from this prison, I'd say Ollie is as good a choice as any. -
He hasn't delivered anything yet and he's getting project after project. I think he's some sort of con-artist.
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Still,this could be good. They REALLY need to base it more on the comics. Throw in Black Canary or Speedy and for Grodds sake,cast anyone other than Matt Damon. I wish more SuperHero movies would abandon the tired "origin story set-up". If they ever do a Flash movie,his entire backstory should be told in a 30 second speedforce flashback. The worst part of Batman Begins,for me,were the endless shots of Heres where he got the car,Heres where he got the suit,Heres where he makes his batarangs....that shit should have been a one minute montage and not 40 minutes of the fucking movie.
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May 20, 2008 1:17:33 AM CDT
They need to start a movie division for DC characters...
by prof. pop-cult
Marvel Studios was created to shepherd Marvel characters to the movies. I think the same needs to happen for DC: Time Warner should start a division ("DC Studios") that is focused only on developing, and overseeing, DC properties as live-action movies and TV shows. "DC Studios" should be staffed in the upper, creative decision making level by at least a significant number of DC Comics people.Ideally, DC Studios should be started right after Christopher Nolan does one more Batman movie. (And after that, the Nolan-Batman series should come to an end, as a neatly wrapped up trilogy.) The first project for DC Studios should be a Justice League movie.
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May 20, 2008 1:23:49 AM CDT
Clicked the link, read the review, actually sounds like a good m
by happybunni
Hope it gets made!
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Cause nobody at that studio has a fucking clue. DC Comics has some great characters and some great ideas,but by the time it all gets filtered through 50 levels of suits,a screenplay about Aquaman that started out awesome now features him as a whacky single dad living in the mid-west...or Jack fucking Black as Green Lantern.
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May 20, 2008 1:26:04 AM CDT
Kinda funny how most people agree Begins script sucks
by blindambition238
but Begins is still considered a good movie, which I think it is. But how rare is it to hear, 'yea the movie was good, but the script/ dialog was pretty bad'. One would think that a bad script would inevitably lead to a shitty movie no matter what. I guess thats a credit to Nolan and crew. Glad that him and his bro did the TDK script since I really enjoyed The Prestige.
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That's my point about Time Warner needing to start a movie division (an in-house subsidiary of Warner Bros. Studios) solely focused on DC (and Vertigo) properties. I imagine there must be someone among the DC Comics ranks who would be most qualified to lead such a division. The suits at Warner Bros. simply do not have the know-how and singular focus to greenlight most of these DC-related project.So I say they need to put all these projects on hold, gather up all the scripts so far (including Super Max, Green Lantern, Justice League, Wonder Woman, Man of Steel, Supergirl, etc.), and then pass them onto a newly formed "DC Studios" division to suss through. All DC and Vertigo related movie ideas should be put on hold until such a new division is started up (the exception would be a third Nolan Batman movie).But I think they can start DC Studios as Nolan is shooting his third Batman. (And as much as I enjoy Nolan's take on Batman, I think it would be best to retire his vision after a third movie. Nolan is sticking to a "realistic" take on Batman. So I think rebooting Bats for a Justice League movie, after Nolan finishes a trilogy, would mark a good start for DC Studios, and the Batman and Superman characters.)
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Based solely on the fact that it WASNT Schumacher's Batman. That franchise had been raped so hard,most folks were just glad to see it treated seriously again. But Begins is not an entertaining movie...its downright boring in a lot of places. Heres hoping TDK fixes that.....
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Begin's greatest accomplishment was not sucking.
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I'm not saying that. It just drags in a lot of places. They're certainly on the right track and I have high hopes for TDK. Please dont kill me....
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I thought he just had good aim and lots of gadgets...
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I caught it again recently on Spike. It doesn't hold up too well on repeat viewings. The dramatic vibe is so ponderous that the pacing of the plot moves like a rock. We gave it a pass because it was the first Batman movie to treat the character seriously, and we were thankful for that.
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Somehow I doubt this will see the light of day. That and I'm not impressed when Goyer is in charge. I sort of like the idea though.
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I loved it. Thought it captured the elements of Batman I thought most important. But I can understand why some don't enjoy it like I do. The action was lacking and some plot point trodded on a bit. I'm sure others would've rather less focus on the crime drama elements and more comic book movie like beats. It's easily one of MY favorite comic book movies. It was also just a GREAT movie...acting, drama, Tom Wilkinson,.....GLAD we lost Katie holmes (hate that twitchy faced bitch)
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It's almost too easy. How many of the super villains wind up being gay? Or does Green Arrow discover he's gay?
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seriously.
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He's going to seem so random to the non-geek audience.
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..using wardrobes decisions in Smallville to bolster ones opinion is kind of dubious. It's smallville. I'm sure they paid a buck fifty for costume party version on purpose...or hell maybe not, it's smallville. What, you saying the flashes hoody is the best version possible? My rebuttal: Superman and Spider-Man. Pretty much 100% translation. Oh, i guess we can add Iron Man to that list.
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May 20, 2008 2:51:26 AM CDT
sounds like a Smallville episode, or an Aquaman-level pilot
by calico pete
I'd much rather see Justice League. They proudly talk about how they'll stick a bunch of B and C grade villains in the movie? Yeah, that's what I want. A movie with leftover baddies, and a hero who might as well be Joe Shmoe because whatever separates him from the rest of the action-heroes in moviedom has been stripped away. This is Green Arrow, a world-class Justice League-level superhero. We deserve something incredible; if WB has $70M extra sitting around, or whatever this is going to cost, then make something more fantastic, more crazy, more *out there*. Why the need to make what'll amount to *just* another action movie?
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First it's "superstar" talkbacker messi. I have no idea what triggered you to respond violently to me just because I happen to know something about comic books, how does myself suggesting a few things from comic books piss you off. I don't understand. Second please stop raping spanish with your shitty use of it and your shitty central american style swearing. South Americans are cooler because we can say shit like recalcado hijo de mil putas, la concha de to madre que te repario. Plus we can actually play football which is actually important. Sorry but football>vato gangs. And I don't look like Comic Book Guy, I look more like Lionel Messi and I happen to read alot of comic books. What's wrong with that. Unless you're one of the screenwriters on Green Lantern.
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First most people loved Batman Begins and the origin was the best part, take some ritalin. Second DC don't need an Avi Arad, they need a Kevin Fiege, Avi is the business/rape/corporation side of Marvel, Kevin Fiege is the creative guy who keeps things in line, he's not perfect but he's something, something that actually holds a marvel creative committee to go over each movie, said move was where they got rid of The Mandarin in Iron Man and beefed up Obadiah Stane due to Mark Millar's assesment of the script. DC do have a movie guy, it's Gregory Novak, but he has little control and he has no idea what he's doing, Batman Begins was all Nolan.
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a few geeks on two movie sites saying a script sucks is everyone? Literally count the people on aicn, that's nothing compared to those that loved the movie.
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you're wrong man, alot of people loved begins for it's filmmaking, if you thought it was boring, stick to big brother, take some ritalin and shut the fuck up. because you make it sound like what you say is fact when it's clearly not true. it has little to do with it being better than schumachers. people are realizing now what a great film it is in of itself.
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most people don't consider it slow, they love it and it many more people than you 3 fucks think it holds up on repeat viewings. in fact on this very site far more than you 3 people were saying just how much better Begins got on repeat viewings.
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maybe you should see the episode dumbass. but superman's costume is iconic, spidey's is iconic and translatable. Green Arrow's is not, in the episode he does wear the original suit, dominao mask and all and it looks fucking retarded, which is why he uses the hood and lenses instead.
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I can't wait. A new spin on a comic book film. Without having to go through another B-Grade origin story.
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I just don't see this getting made. Why would Warner make a Green Arrow movie with no Green Arrow in it? And "Supermax"? Lame.
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However the fight scenes was poorly done.And it's Bruce who should have dumped Racheal, not the other way around.Goyer for the most part is a good writer with exceptions like the Nick Fury tv movie,Zig Zag and the attrocity that was Blade Trinity.Compared to the guy who wrote Superman returns, I'm not one to easily critique Goyer's work.And yes Supermax sounds like a name for a tampon.Bloody fun.
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Because making a superhero movie out of Green Arrow wouldn't work and wouldn't sell, mixing it up with a different take would get a Green Arrow movie made.
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I didn't see it as rachel dumping bruce, if anything he has that small sliver of hope that maybe he would rather let everything go, but she says she can't be with him not because he's crazy or the nrmal superhero thing of protecting her, but because he's not even human any more.
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This one must be really laborious to draw for the Comic Book artists.
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this could be ok if they stick to making it more hard core than most comic movies. i mean it is set in prison so it would be cool to get oz type content and not prison break. hopefully they'll keep matt damon away too and get viggo mortensen, maybe make the character late thirties instead of early thirties. either that or get him for ultimate thor which is the way it seems marvel is going with their movies.
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...would work best introduced in a Justice League flick. An origin story movie would be too lightweight and familiar(he is afterall, very similar to Batman and the creators admit they needed a less "darker" non powered costumed hero. Perhaps they should just wait, introduce him in a JL movie (if it ever gets made!) and then perhaps if necessary he could have a spin off. This movie sounds like a sequel to spin off GA movie, and any non fan boys reading that article would find it baffling. Warner Bros. must take a lesson in how Marvel is handling its characters and proposed spin offs.
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I always liked the Longbow Hunters version of GA best, when he just used regular hunting arrows, nothing else. Didn't bother with a mask, the hooded coat was practical for the weather, and he was willing to put an occasional arrow through someones eye if they needed it. I haven't met anyone yet who does not think BB is the best batman film.
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Goes to show Goyer's ignorance in matters comic. Swamp Thing is pretty much nature personified, dork, and would just grow a root and move out of there. That does not bode very well for the rest of the concept.
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Start out with Emerald dawn, expand the the Galactic Corps, introduce Jon Stewart & others in the 3rd act. Let's face it, it would be a merchandising dream, and a great series to naturally go bigger and bolder with each story.
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As far as i know Green Arrow has no superhuman powers. Just a lowly vigilante with a cool & silly outfit and a good aim.
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He's a Liberal; thus he's more than capable of saving the world. :rolleyes:
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This really sounds cool now. Haven't seen Buddy Hackett in years.
"Ollie returns to civilization full of principles and vision per the words of his buddy Hackett who is honoring him at an opulent dining hall with other society types after the opening scene."
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May 20, 2008 7:13:54 AM CDT
GIVE THE HOT GOTH CHICK FROM NCIS HER OWN SUPERHERO MOVIE....
by mrsentinel
Just fricken do it!!!!
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Archer-Enemies.
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Isn't Green Arrow like a B or C class DC hero? And they're making a movie about him in prison with the villains of other A and B class heroes? Damn, that's like...that would be like throwing Ant Man in jail with Green Goblin and Magneto. Might be fun, but we'll also be watching waiting for the 'cool' heroes to show up
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...isn't everyone essentially in solitary? That would make for a pretty boring movie.
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to deal with all the more implausible and embarrassing DC characters in one movie...Like Green Arrow.So you're Robin Hood...whoopdeedoo.
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sound lame. hopefully those are big cameos for the better known ones.
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Say what you want about his ability, but you have to give him credit for his creativity. At least he is trying something different. He’s giving the movie going public the credit of dropping us into the middle of a character and story and saying, “Here, now go with it and catch up,” instead of another plodding origin movie. The idea is sound for marketing too. You have to admit, selling the Green Arrow is gonna be tough, no matter how great of a character he is, and he is. Most noncomic folk would look at a solo GA movie and go, “eh, no superpowers and he shoots a bow in arrow and dresses like Robin Hood. I’m gonna pass.” My wife did when I mentioned it to her. The idea however of anchoring it with not only our hero, but also the fact that it a show case for vast numbers of DC’s villains, that might serve as a larger drawing point. Top that off with the fact that people will leave knowing what a cool character Ollie is, it could really help pay off for DC too, as due to the cloistered nature of the Superman and Batman franchises, the DC Movie U doesn’t have the feeling of a whole world unto itself yet the way the Marvel Movie Universe does, especially after Iron Man. I would pay to see this, just don’t make it too soft.
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It makes sense then.
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I think I might have a minor geekgasm if they had a bald Clancy as Luthor. To me he always nailed the voice at least. That's a character I have never been happy with in his film incarnations. Hackman, great actor he is, just hammed it up, and Spacy again was over the top instead of low key. But, man, Clancy's voice; that sly drone, as if the entire world bores him in his megalomania. I love that take.
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With the right director and Brad Pitt as Oliver Queen, this could potentially turn into something special. Brad just needs to bulk up a bit (as he did for Troy) and grow that GREEN ARROW trademark facial hair. Spot on perfect casting and a new challenge for Pitt.
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Just saying.
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My sources say that during the surgery, a curious nurse checks and determines that the carpet does indeed match the drapes. Ironically, SHE's the one that ultimately goes blind!
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May 20, 2008 9:25:22 AM CDT
Ummm... pretend that previous post was on the surgery talkback
by rockround
Heh heh... long time reader, first time poster and all that... heh heh... hmmm...
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why does hollywood think they can do better then the comicbook writers? shit....take a poll,find the best story...then film it....
...Mike Grells The LongBbow Hunters....would make an excellent film....as would many other comic strories, why if the source matterial is good enuff to make a movie do they feel the need to "fix" it ?!?!?!? happpens all the time....option the book or the script that "every one loves" then when the finished film comes out it looks nothing like it....SOMEBODY explain it to me and why the "stars" or directors STAY with the project that moves so far from the film that they signed on for????????????????? -
Just hope they're not planning on making it too low key. But kind of starting from a quasi realistic ground level and then add comic book elements and super-abilities in bit by bit could certainly prove very interesting...if in Very Capable Hands! after Blade 3 and other misses, they better not let Goyer direct. And Spacey, that wimp killed SuperReturns.
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i've been thinking the same thing. he's the one that wrote that allegedly badass voltron script, right?
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but I find Bale's raspy "Batman voice" is just ridiculous. "It's not who I am underneath...but what I do...that defines me". For some reason it worked for Keaton, but not Bale. I think even West could have delivered that line better.
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"Warner Bros. must take a lesson in how Marvel is handling its characters and proposed spin offs."
Fuck that. Marvel has done everything by the numbers so far(good:spidey bad:FF). "supermax" doesnt sound like its run-of-the-mill formula bullshit. And who doesnt love a good prison movie, for fucks sake? This sounds awesome.
All this talk of Brad Pitt/Matt Damon is just fucking extra-retarded. Matt fucking damon? Im amped to see this made, but I wont show up, if they pick either of these ass hats.
And all you numbnuts bashing Goyer just on his name, what the fuck? Batman Begins was more than competent. You fuckers act like its Uwe Bolle or something. I know all you fucks have hard-ons only for Iron Man and Indiana Jones right now, but trust me, its gonna wear off.
This project sounds awesome, and like the man said above, every who posted here is gonna be there.
And Matt Damon? Rememer a little bomb called daredevil? Do you really need something like that again?
TEAM America voice: "Matttt Damon!!!"
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I was against this until learning more, and I have to agree, the standard Superhero template is getting old in the tooth. This is unique, and if Justin Hartley is involved, all the better. He makes Ollie pretty hip.
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bushy beards and pastel shirts unite!
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heck, that's the only villain I recognized. I'm more of a Marvel guy who happens to love Swamp Thing. I still think they need to establish a DCverse first before they try something like this. I just can't see it working.
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This should be a really cool way to introduce a hero not many people know in a way that will grab their attention. He may not be well known but I seriously doubt audiences will avoid it because it's an original film. I don't know why there are so many people so sure this will fail. I am personally very excited for the project (if it's even coming out) and I hope it does well (if it does).
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...now that i have your attention, maybe you should take some of that ritalin you prescribed earlier. I don't remember being offensive in my post, so i don't know why you decided to be prickish. Anyway, i did see the episode in question. Here's a thought. Perhaps they didn't spend too much creativity in making the homage to the original costume look good because they WANTED to play up the revised costume. Y'think? Did the electric company Spider-Man costume look good? No it did not. But the costume from the modern movies does look good and it's basically the same. There are aesthetic differences between the Reeve Superman Costume and the Routh one, but it's basically the same. Yet people fall on either side of the fence on that one. essentially, they gave GA a cheesy variation on purpose and you're using it as an example. I'm just calling you on that.
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That this doesn't start a trend of superhero movies in name only. Same characters, same powers, but no costumes or colorful names, because I guess that's 'silly'. Imagine like a JLA movie done Heroes style. 'Bruce, get Hal and Oliver on the phone, some criminals are attacking our HQ. Get our team down here, stat.'
This works for how it's done in the setting, Green Arrow in Lock Up 2, but I hope that it's done well and the trend isn't taken too far. -
That this doesn't start a trend of superhero movies in name only. Same characters, same powers, but no costumes or colorful names, because I guess that's 'silly'. Imagine like a JLA movie done Heroes style. 'Bruce, get Hal and Oliver on the phone, some criminals are attacking our HQ. Get our team down here, stat.'
This works for how it's done in the setting, Green Arrow in Lock Up 2, but I hope that it's done well and the trend isn't taken too far. -
about time some people know what should be done. this is a way to actually get a green arrow movie made. a green arrow movie like iron man would never happen.
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Rosenbaum's Luthor on Smallville is the best incarnation of Luthor even better than the comics, what he did with that character was so amazing that he put him up there with Michael Corleone and Daniel Plainview in fascinating characters who slowly fall to greater evil.
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Ok I get what you mean but how do you make that costume not look silly? I just look from the point of view of the general public who would be thinking "what?", the design looks silly within the comics itself which means it needs to be changed for the screen. It was voted one of the worst costumes in the DCU in a few internet threads, along with Black Canary.
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Putting Lex Luthor in the same sentence as Michael Corleone, let alone the inference that the actor playing him over seven years, is worthy of being mentioned for his skill compared to Pacino who created the greatest transformation from good to evil ever filmed, in under three hours, that is positively ludicrous.
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Yep. It's all quite fishy.
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*SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!*My day is made.
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i know it's all opinion, but what makes Green Arrows costume any more silly than Spider-Mans, Supermans, daredevils, Electras, Ghost Riders or any other super hero who has made it to the screen? The general populace has been willing to accept them, why not GA? And saying Black Canary was voted in aninternet poll as having one of the worst costumes proves my point. The woman wears a one piece black corset and fishnets. That's freaking mundane. That's like voting Zatanna as having a bad costume. I can find a million more zanny unbelievable costumes watching a real life fashion show. And that thought makes me laugh anytime i here about "silly superhero costumes". I have no doubt talented costume designers could make a tradtional GA costume work with little aesthetic changes.
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You're an idiot. And you have a little bit of Goyer juice on your chin....
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GET OFF YOUR ASS WB AND MAKE THIS MOVIE!
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Blackest Night!
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You really are one pathetic Fanboy cunt of the lowest order. Lex fucking Luthor in that wankfest Smallville is up there with Michael Corleone? Dumbest fucking thing I've heard in ages.Fool.
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...into Pacino in Scarface?
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It is too late to retract that sort of statement. It should never have been thought of, let alone typed.
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The shite that is smallville having a performance that is up there with Corleone. You truly have become totally insane . . .or you are actually showing your age - which I estimate to be about 12
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Green Lantern will OWN all your asses, and you know it!Who's this Green Lantern anyway?
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A completely buffed out Jimmy Kimmel. Better start training now.Matt Damon will be "green" with envy. And Sarah Silverman will see the error of her cheatin' heart...
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I've lost faith in DC putting out any movies not called Batman.
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May 20, 2008 12:30:14 PM CDT
Wow, it sounds like that book "Corrective Measures"...
by grantchastain
Which is coming out from Arcana Comics this fall. In fact I think you can download the entire first 6 issue set on Wowio.com. (Hint. Hint hint.)
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He's up there with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash. It seems a bit strange to do a Green Arrow movie without that title and without the costume. This just smacks of the crappy old low-budget/TV versions they did before X-Men. I did actually like Justin Hartley as Ollie. Perhaps if they did a movie, they could use him. I doubt we'd see Luthor or Joker in it though. Anyway, Warners has yet to do anything with their huge DC library outside of Supes and Bats. It baffles me that Marvel has made a slew of mostly successful movies out of their A, B, and even D (Blade!) characters, and Warners has yet to respond to that beside resurrecting their two big franchises.
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I do believe you got pwned like a motherfucker by messi just now... and it was fuckin hilarious. and comic books are great. your comments were completely uncalled for, shouting at a comics fan for stating some opinions, wtf?
And no changes to the Green Arrow costume please. Pretty much every superhero costume is ridiculous, and I think most audiences have accepted that, so I doubt it will hurt the movie's success at all. You have to be pretty crazy to be a superhero, so having a crazy costume makes sense -
he was such an obscure character to most people at the time, so they could take in his story without question and just have fun without constantly questioning things. Plus the movie was treated in a very mature manner and it worked tremendously. If Supermax deals with its material along the same vein, this could be something really incredible
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Get Christian Slater as Green Arrow, he's gotta eat.
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Hey, Floronic Man was played by John (Lionel Luthor) Glover. Perhaps they should tie in to that. (OK, maybe not!)
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actually sounds pretty cool. I can totally see it. But I'm all for hiring a more obscure actor. This will help to establish the character rather than a movie starring playing a superhero. Hancock might as well just be called Will Smith's Superhero Endeavor
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I clearly stated in my previous posts and the post you were calling me out for that I like Batman Begins. I was just pointing out the fact that while it is a good movie, many people have noted that Goyer's script was the weak link in the movie, specifically the pacing in some parts, the formulaic third act (microwave doomsday device and Gordon in the tumbler), and awkward dialog ("Why do we fall?", "Its not what I say that defines me..." "Didn't you get the memo", "Yes!!!", "Nice coat", Rachel's speech in the car, and the way "fear" is repeated ad nauseum by everyone in case we can't figure out the 'theme' of the movie). However, as I clearly stated, while these things would usually be enough to ruin a movie, somehow Batman Begins manages to be a great film thanks to its excellent cast and direction. Hope that clears things up for you. Also, as a fellow comic nerd, I'm sure you have some pretty passionate and interesting opinions about this stuff, but seriously, immediately referring to me as a 'fucker' for not agreeing 100% with you about a movie isn't just rude, but also makes any argument you have seem less credible. I'm sure you can do better man.
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That guy who played Russel Crowes 2nd in command in 3:10 to Yuma should play Green Arrow. He's intense, he can act and he's obscure enough that the movie will be about the character and not the actor.
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I think they should go the route of Robert Downey Jr. and Micheal Keaton. Hire an actor who can actually act, not some A List action star.
Brad Pitt is rumored for Thor isnt he? Him or HHH.
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That is inspired casting, I like it.
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I think it's great that this story picks up in the middle and sprinkles origin flashbacks among the present-day action. Good idea, and hopefully it avoids the typical first-half setup that bogs down the initial episode of superhero flicks.
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Bring it on
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But this sounds fucking awesome to me. I mean to take Green Arrow (Basicaly Bruce Wayne/TonyStark) and throw him in prison with some super pissed Supervillans,it just sounds cool. I would like to see Captain Cold played by Robert Patrick being all "Hannibal Lector" and kind of helping Ollie out while pulling the strings for his own escape the whole time. Take out some of those shit villans and give us Grodd,Grundy,Captain Boomerang...some that I actually remember. I'm opposed to a Joker cameo but a Luthor cameo would own. Just get Clancey Brown.
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written all over it.
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Paul Reubens, Dwight Yoakham, Lucy Lawless, The guy from Batman Dead end who played the joker. Perry
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He already played Green Arrow once before in Reign of Fire.
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if they ever make another origin story, i'd kick some nuts. i thought was watching batman begins all the way through ironman. it's basically just two sides of the same coin, structurally speaking.
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Though you know you're dealing with a questionable stable of characters when you've got that many "names" in it and the film isn't named after any of them.It'd really be something to see if done right, but is DC really willing to blow most of their villain store on one oddball film, when, let's be honest, they don't really have that many good characters to begin with (in my opinion)?
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Wow, this is unexpected. And unexpectedly cool! I dunno, though, this does feel somewhat risky... Do regular non-geek people know Green Arrow?
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If they had, I think we'd all be looking forward to it more than we are, no?
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Not that Green Arrow himself would be a stoner, but with MM playing him, the character could become a new stoner icon. Or code word. "Dude, when you come to the party, be sure to bring Green Arrow with you."
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If they did the Wolverine story like that, I think it would be a guarantee sell to anyone. Now that I think about it, I'm actually surprised the comics haven't tried that recently.
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If they ever make a movie of Bongo Man who wears his birthday suit as a superhero or while in his secret identity, but other than that McConahey would be wrong for this role. I want someone edgier.
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Someone inform his mother before he hurts himself.
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I saw it suggested elsewhere and it is genius. Also, David Wenham, Karl Urban, or Viggo Mortensen would be great. Also, if they go for a younger Green Arrow, Justin Hartley would acceptable.
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That whole argument is so retarded. ZOMG THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW GREEN LANTERN / GREEN ARROW / METAMORPHO.
Who gives a fuck? Guess what: no one knew who SNAKE PLISSKEN or LUKE SKYWALKER was till those movies came out because they didn't exist. That argument is wholly redundant and it's advocates even more so.
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Is perfect casting.
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I can't ever see this getting made into a live-action flick.
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AND THE MOVIE ITSELF.
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I don't retract my statement, because I believe that you guys are assuming he isn't up there with Michael Corleone since I know you've probably haven't seen the transformation. If you actually watch from the start how Lex unravels over the seasons to the episode Descent where his obsession leads him to kill his father, then maybe you'd agree with me. But somehow I know that you guys are just thinking that it's not possible without actually investigating. Also just because Michael Corleone turned from good to bad in under 3 hours doesn't make it good, alot of people turn from good to evil over a long long time like Lex and you can see it in the show, the way that Clark is creating him indirectly and Lex is creating Clark indirectly too. Infact Michael turning so fast and easily makes him seem dumber than Luthor and also makes the change less dramatic because not everyone changes so quickly. Whilst it was realistic it's not as epic, because Michael basically had a bad streak in him and just decided to kill the guys who killed his father and then the ball rolls. Kind of simplistic but still realistic. But so is Luthor where only in the past 3 or 4 episodes has he become the Supervillain he is in the comics. And mrjjonz aren't you the brit who wants a cloth suited batman? and Lost Jarv who some people said was pretty ignorant for his comments on green lantern.
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He's gotta eat.
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I said the same thing. by that assumption Indiana Jones should have been a failure. I thought everyone knew not every movie is based on source material.
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that is the dumbest fanboy statement that has ever been written on here. And that's saying something.
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"dumber than Luthor" because of the fast turn you have absolutely no understanding of the Godfather and should never, ever, venture an opinion on it again.
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would look as Green Arrow. Besides if he does this maybe just maybe that will keep him away from Captain America.
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Whoever she is, she should be hot. You know, cause in the comics, she's hot. Yes, I'm sexually aroused by female comics and cartoon characters. Oh, like you're not! Christina Ricci as Trixie is the babe of the season. Instant hard-on. Too bad SPEED RACER bombed cause it was great. So, who do you think could play Black Canary?
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Re- Green Lantern:I am totally ignorant about this, but feel no shame in admitting it. You on the other hand, are a drooling fanboy that cannot see that you state some of the most ridiculous fucking things about your pet subjects. I can be pretty fucking dogmatic, but would never dream of saying something as half-witted as the tripe that comes off your semen encrusted keyboard. And no, I don't want a cloth suited Batman, before you say anything.
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I can see Matthew McConaughey as either CAPTAIN AMERICA or GREEN ARROW. Brad Pitt, for some reason, seems better suited for GREEN ARROW, from my perspective. If Pitt was actually signed for CAPTAIN AMERICA, he would just have to make the part more his own, in adding that more lifelike "ULTIMATES" feel. (That opening sequence of Captain America in the "ULTIMATES" during WWII would rock. And I could see a buff Brad Pitt in the classic gear kickin' Nazi butt, with really cool artistic vision from the right director.)
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If these guys are interested in these movie projects (the least little bit), then I strongly suggest they hit the weights...HARD...and get on the right training program, if they haven't already. (They don't want the suited Tony Stark to put them to shame, do they?)
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May 21, 2008 9:21:06 AM CDT
If I was in their shoes, I'd be more interested in CAPTAIN AMERI
by jdanielp
Just thinking of that opening "ULTIMATES" sequence with Captain America and how the character could be represented on screen, as a character of his time, gives me freakin' goosebumps...because of how GREAT it has the potential to be...leading into an ULTIMATE AVENGERS flick with IRON MAN!! Who would NOT want to be a part of that?! (--With the right director, obviously.) Seriously, I'm getting chills! Heck,...."I" want to make this, dang it. This could be so incredible. Hollywood people have GOT to know this!
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Dreaming. Just dreaming. Waiting for the reality.
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Would be perfect as Oliver Queen. Just sayin'
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Apparently some of you 'geeks' don't know your comics as well as you think they do. GA was one of the Original Members of the Justice League and pretty close to be Hal Jordan (the bassass green lanterns) brother. I'm a little dissapointed with the premise of this movie seeing as how they have an assload of material from the Grell series which, IMO was one of the better written comics in the 90's. It outdid Marvel in grittiness. This movie could rock, and it could suck.
As it's been said, they should do the Longbow Hunters or the Kevin Smith revamping of Green Arrow, but that one is definately aimed at Green Arrow fans.
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It focused on the character of Bruce Wayne and what drove him to the extreme of becoming a vigalante.
Most first films of comic book adaptations have little action because of budget. Compare the action between Spiderman 1 and 2, or X-Men 1 and 2. There's a marked jump in action in the 2nd films. There's not a ton of action in Iron Man and you can bet your bottom dollar there will be twice as much in the sequel.
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