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UPDATED!! Is McCain Funnier Than Obama Or Clinton?? Steve Carell Hosts The Last SNL Till September!!
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* Steve Carell, who did not cross the picket line during the writers guild strike, returns to host “Saturday Night Live” tonight.
* John McCain, who crossed that picket line to appear on Jay Leno’s supershitty “Tonight Show” in January, becomes tonight the last of the remaining major presidential candidates to appear on “Saturday Night Live.”
* UPDATE!! Ricky Gervais cameos.
* The A-Holes made it at least as far as dress rehearsal.
* It looks like we’re going another week without “TV Funhouse.” We’ve had only two this season, the fewest since they began more than a decade ago. We got eight last season. Seven the season before that. Eight the season before that.
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no wonder he's gay
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that season 3 cover really takes on a whole new meaning now
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Will be like the other candidates on the show. . . . made out of wood and smiling like a serial killer with no pants on. That's one skit we can chalk up as "unfunny."
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I really hope they make it into the final show this time. I think it's my favorite recurring sketch they've got now.
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Go Johnny, go go go!
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Was pretty funny. Seems like he has a good sense of humor
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Carell is only funny on non live TV. His skits were just OK. The only thing that made me laugh was when they did a Mark Whalberg skit. It was random and the impersonation was dead on. I also so something with a goat. Thank God for the live feeds at my job.
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Would the behind the scenes people who work for talk shows have been without any work if people hadn't crossed the picket line to appear on the shows?
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Playing doctor, boys?
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Oh geez, another week of douchebaggers whining about how bad SNL is. Apparently that on/off button on the remote is still a huge mystery to some people. -
May 17, 2008 6:40:28 PM CDT
seen exactly 0 episodes this year...so far its been a great year
by jugdish
I'm glad I've got this terrible show out of my blood stream..first got rid of Earl 2 years ago - nowI've kicked SNL for life...I'm a new man...a happier one at that cause this show stunk like a bag of shit for too many years
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Because I think he would be pretty good.
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At this rate we will have seen the end of TV Funhouse by 2011!!!
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I wouldn't sweat it. Herc is easily the worst writer on AICN and has awful taste in everything. He loves defending things that everyone hates on (i.e. the Justice League movie) because he has a reflex to love everything that sucks, such as SNL. I'm a little angry that he totally dissed the Sarah Connor Chronicles and gave it basically zero coverage on the site, but mostly he's just the one part of AICN that I hate. Ok, I'm done.
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Huckabee's Obama Assassination Proclamation - http://tinyurl.com/69p62o
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Ha ha!
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Just cause. Maybe I'm biased on account of one of my favorite english teachers in high school was Mr. Moriarty.
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I remember when he hosted four years ago or so. He was okay I guess. I remember this skit where they asked him if he was going to run for president in '08. He declined, saying he'd be too damn old for the job.
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So he's not the last of the presidential candidates to show up (unless you qualify it with 'this election season')
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The plugs for Amazon should really be restrained to product that actually pertains to the article at hand. But his writing is hardly the worst. That honour goes to Merrick.
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All of the goddamn exclamation marks Herc uses. That is kind of shitty.
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do people still watch TV? do people still wipe their asses with toilet paper?
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May 17, 2008 10:10:44 PM CDT
I loved McCain singing the Streisand songs. That was gold.
by flim springfield
Especially the album cover wearing the Superman tee.
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well, it is less messy than using your hand. As to SNL, i think i'll finish reading The Stars, My Destination. That Gully Foyle is one crazy mother fucker!
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Oh crap. Hasn't even aired yet. My bad.
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Look how fun this is.
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where he played the general
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May 17, 2008 10:36:59 PM CDT
Okay that was pretty much one of the best sketches ever
by supersonicbaby
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...I've never seen anything Carell's been in.
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Political cold openings are so overused. This was hacky...but Carell sold the names well. I liked it.
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i hate all old people...they need to all die...when i turn 70...its time to take the pipe
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Remember her brilliant "belligerent churchgoer" character? You shouldn't. She was fired after one season.
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I haven't watched in a few weeks, so I don't know how it's been going on the show, but the monologue and this political skit were pretty good.
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Yeah.
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May 17, 2008 10:45:54 PM CDT
Howie Mandel should kick Fred Armisen's ass 4 piss poor imperson
by err
Howie Mandel should kick Fred Armisen's ass 4 piss poor impersonation
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May 17, 2008 10:46:11 PM CDT
Howie Mandel should kick Fred Armisen's ass 4 piss poor imperson
by err
Howie Mandel should kick Fred Armisen's ass 4 piss poor impersonation
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May 17, 2008 10:47:21 PM CDT
Howie Mandel is my favorite Armisen character next to the Update
by supersonicbaby
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May 17, 2008 10:51:00 PM CDT
Okay my remarks may be off cause I had to pause my TiVo
by supersonicbaby
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cue first "Get Smart" promo
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Bitching about SNL's quality has always been a pointless exercise to me. I'm old enough to remember its PREMIERE, ok? And going all the way back to that...no matter how much you like to look at certain cast periods through rose colored glasses...there has always been one true constant. Namely, the show has always been up and down in quality from week to week.Which frankly always surprised me as the years went on. I mean when it first launched it was one thing to argue that it was a "new" show that was trying to find its voice, but all these years later -- and after all the success and stature it has gained -- you'd think that Lorne Michaels would literally have the pick of the litter at finding all-new, all-brilliant writers looking to break into TV. So to that end I've never understood how such a successful LONG RUNNING show never got better on a more CONSISTENT basis.As for Herc, Devilcat called it. McCain wasn't a WGA member or even a member of a standing union, so stop being such a tool and trying to make it seem like McCain did anything wrong. Why is there even a need to point out that McCain did the TONIGHT SHOW? As others have noted, where did it say in the WGA strike rules that UNSCRIPTED GUESTS had to stop appearing on the show? Why should McCain be held under the spotlight versus any of the actual fucking CREW that was still actively putting out the show at the time? Or even the audience members who kept filling the seats? Was McCain the ONLY person who appeared on the TONIGHT SHOW when the writers were out? Fuck no. And while we're at it, are you at least going to be fair and name EVERYONE who crossed the line and guested on the TONIGHT SHOW?This is where Herc's politically tool-like head will soon explode. One day soon he'll be posting one of his already pre-written, all-kiss ass and glowing reviews for Whedon's new DOLLHOUSE show, and yet that week it will turn out the guest star was someone who likewise appeared on the TONIGHT SHOW during the strike period too. And do you think Herc will point THAT out in his review? Will he bring up the fact that his beloved Joss employed an actor who crossed the line to sit on Jay's couch? Ha! Don't bet on it...
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So good!
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HOLY SHIT!!
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"It's funny because it's racist!"
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even more so. and that digital short pretty much sucked.
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But yeah, sketch was far too long. We got the idea.
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...but his hands look gnarly as fuck.
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not a federal responsibility.
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So hot.
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That means I won't have to see any of the fucking advertisements anymore.
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You ain't president yet Bitch
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Mccain calculated that appearing on SNL and making fun of himself for being old would pull the rug out from others why try to do the same, thereby stealing their thunder. Did he succeed? Not really. That monologue was sleep-inducing, and I felt like he was going to nod off as well. Doesn't build confidence.
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Did he drink 6 Red Bulls too?
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May 17, 2008 11:12:27 PM CDT
McCain trying to appeal to younger voters by goin on SNL?
by orionsangels
Yeah right, no one watches SNL. Let alone younger people. The only reason he goes is because media outlets, like CNN & Fox will report on it. What's next McCain on TRL?
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There were funny moments, but I lost concentration after a few seconds.
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Seriously.
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Seriously.
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May 17, 2008 11:13:33 PM CDT
Just do the moonwalk already Usher Raymond!
by itto ogami loses daigoro
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Bland, arrogant R&B singers make my life complete!
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when is the guy with the cane gonna run out and push him off the stage
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Back before he was a freak, that is. Same moves and the music owes more than a little to him too.
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Trash an american hero! All the kiddies are doing it!
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made me prefer to go into the kitchen and unload the dishwasher. A new record in TV boringness
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Fuck you Justin Long
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Trash Americans! All the kiddies are doing it.
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are you down with it? are you hip?
No actually. Not liking McCain for me anyway, comes from the fact that he represents more of the same. more bush. more war. more republican bullshit. we need a change a BIG CHANGE! -
a few years ago I heard these teeny boppers talking about the texas chain saw massacre remake about how true it was. "They even had the video at the end!"
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Losing interest quickly
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they'll give him more stuff to do on the show.
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.. but this sketch is prolonged torture too
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May 17, 2008 11:21:49 PM CDT
UGGHH TOO MUCH MCCAIN!!!! IT'S 'SCANNERS' ALL OVER AGAIN!!
by supersonicbaby
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lol funny because Mccain is more of a democrat than Obama or Clinton, but i wouldnt expect people who just want to waste their vote on black jesus because it's the cool thing to do, hey if you like facism and socialism, go for it. nothing like a welfare state, where having more baby daddies than teeth, and having more kids than bowel movements is the cool thing to do, cause hey the democrats will just keep giving you money while overtaxing working people
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McCain just kept hanging around... "Hey guys, you need me in another sketch? You sure? I can just be an extra or something... I don't mind! Got nowhere to go!"
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Democrats tax because somebody has to pay the trillion dollar bill/deficit of the Bush Administration. Repubs spend and the Democrats are left paying the bills.
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Just had to say that. F SNL. :P
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You are in for a rude awakening...it will be business as usual. Just like it always is.
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I don't like any of the candidates. I'm probably not voting in November. I just know I don't want Republican in the White House anymore. You bitches had your chance for 8 years now. Time for the redneck racist anti-gay christian family value obsessed closet homosexual minister pedophile conservatives to step aside.
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There was a commercial for some drug Abilify. it increases the risks of death, stroke, and suicide....
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As long as it's not a Republican
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He's having fun and doing a good job with these roles, but it's just that 10 seconds into a sketch, it already feels tired.
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May 17, 2008 11:35:07 PM CDT
If Obama loses, I'm REALLY going to laugh my ass off...
by big dumb ape
Hating on McCain's age IS the hip thing for the Left, make no mistake. You know, I said this in a recent political talkback and I'll say it again: for all the Obama Messiah love (which frankly does get out of hand and ludicrous at times) I see NO sign that our country is coming together, and I actually predict this coming election will be one of the ugliest EVER. Even worse, when it's done I think we'll actually be even MORE apart.That said it should be the Democrats year. They have everything going their way, so now I'll wait to see if another Reverend Wright type thing does come along to blow Obama out of the water OR if overconfidence will be the Dems undoing in November.In fact, along those notes, the other night I got a great laugh watching some Democratic Strategist bag on McCain on some talk show. The host noted we haven't even gotten out of the nominating process yet and to the "Big Game" (ie. the actual run-off for President) at which point the female strategist got all cocky and said "We're going to DESTROY McCain. There will be nothing of him left standing. You are right. Right now Obama is still in the AFC playoffs and we haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet where we will OBVIOUSLY win."So here's a small footnote in history to Dems or at least to that overconfident strategist. If you're going to use an analogy like football and talk about how UNBEATABLE Obama is and then literally cite the AFC playoffs, you might want to pick another example given that last year's AFC champs were the New England Patriots who went 18-0 and for having gone the whole season unbeatable were predicted to win the Super Bowl in an easy way......At which point they choked in the final big game and the Giants shocked the world by being the come from behind underdog winner.So like I said, with all the O-Love that it seems you just can't escape since the media keeps ramming it down our throats, I really am going to laugh if Middle America gives the Obama loving media and all the pollsters and all the pundits the finger next election day and DOES elect McCain instead...
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I drink your milk shake
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The polls, superdelegates, popular vote, etc. are all sewn-up. That's the good news.
The bad news: tonight's SNL sucks (though McCain--so self-deprecating--is actually funny). -
im not a republican douchebag, im a registered independant and i consider myself a constitutionalist politically, but to burst your bubble, as much as i dislike all 3 candidates, mccain is the lesser of all evils in this election, and the only thing republican about him is the r next to his name. im for getting rid of both parties, im for low taxes, a strong military, and the government completely the fuck out of the rest of my business
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Think about what happened in that last episode. Carell walks through walls and comments on how he lost 200 lbs. That just AIRED on television.
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He'll be the first President of the United States that doesn't make our country look like it's represented by a white racist redneck. Which alienates us from other countries. This angers the ignorant white God followers. Who were raised with the notion that whitey should always rule this country.
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May 17, 2008 11:39:21 PM CDT
All candidates should take a constitutional quiz on live tv
by thundercats73
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good for us!
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not... another classroom sketch...
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that we're actually losing the talkback to another political rant
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May 17, 2008 11:44:03 PM CDT
I don't even know how they rehearsed through this show...
by danielkurland
For example, the only joke in this sketch is the blood, and in rehearsal, the blood wouldn't be runnning, so it must have just been boring. I'm normally not this critical of episodes, but besides moments of the opening sketch, I haven't enjoyed any of this.
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The defibrillation scene. Unfunny ending.
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Orionsangels, if THAT'S your reason for WHY we should all vote for Obama this time around, please feel free to distribute it through as many emails, flyers and bumper stickers as you can.Comments like that, much like Obama's infamous "people hold on to their guns and religion because they're bitter" comment, will certainly seal the deal with Middle America about who they should now vote for -- and I mean FOR McCain.
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Yeah, she's hot. But, by my own estimation, she's been in about 200 movies during the past year. And all were flops (Alba is the direct-to-DVD diva. Her films are barely in theatres for a weekend; 72 hours later, they're cluttering Blockbuster shelves). I'm surprised that SNL (really lame shit tonight) didn't focus on Hillary Clinton's KKK rally (West Virginia). Personally, I'm elated to watch the old douchebag go down in flames. Viva Obama! As for McCain, he qualifies as a SNL regular (Jesus, replace Keenan with this guy).
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seriously
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Obama is black. No vote. End of story.
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Sad to say but McCain had the funniest bits of the night. The gaydar jamming, the Arizona roads, the John Edwards "you might want to kick the tires on him one more time", etc. Usher sucks, too. Did someone die before the show started? Rough crowd (including us at home)?
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we the jury do pronounce this SNL as guilty of being the lamest of the season, with or without McCain
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This season is a major improvement, but this episode reminded me too much of last season.
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May 18, 2008 12:01:07 AM CDT
Admitting it was a doll ruined what little bit that sketch had g
by jackie boy
It's much better when you looked at it like it was real.
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May 18, 2008 12:01:41 AM CDT
Weak season overall. SNL needs another "star" player.
by flim springfield
SNL needs cast members like Eddie Murphy or Will Ferrell who can make even a weak sketch funny. There was no saving the bad skits this season.
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Like, look at it this way. The end of that sketch was like if Leo Dicaprio got up after he got popped in the Departed and said, "Well, it's a good thing that was fake, wouldn't it suck if that really happened?"
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what happened to Showtime @ the Apollo?
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i think it's time to reboot the cast and the writers, i wouldnt be surprised if they have 3 or 4 new cast members in the fall, my guess is that seth meyers, amy poehler, fred armison, keenen thompson, and possibly darrel hammond may not be back. at least 3-4 of that group will be gone
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May 18, 2008 12:07:05 AM CDT
Tonight wa sso bad I don't even have the energy to stay up and b
by jackie boy
Happy trails talkbackers
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BTW, thanks for the nice compliment earlier. Hope things are going great in Latveria!
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Before Carell and McCain shook hands?
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the writers must have been high when they wrote the CPR sketch. one of those that starts off with a simple, not that funny joke and just trails off into something absurd and not funny at all. yeah. they were high.
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Middle America made their vote a long time ago?
You do realize Obama is the Senator if ILLINOIS right? My state is pretty damned middle american buddy. Glad to see some people enjoy grouping as many people into one stereotype as possible though. -
Which I just figured out today . . . I think the Republicans know they're going to lose. Instead of building up and wasting some fresh Republican talent, they dust off McCain to fill an unwinnable spot on their ticket. Perhaps they are hoping they can repair some of the damage and find a way to compete in 2012. It's like trading down for a great draft pick, as if they now consider the current season to be a "rebuilding year." Then again, Mccain could surprise us and find a way to appeal to the ignorant lower to middle class shitkickers who STILL insist Obama is a muslim and that an illegal immigrant has more power over their state of employment than a multinational corporation that keeps its wealthand its productivity overseas (you know, to avoid all those pesky liberal issues like safe working conditions, consumer advocacy, and a decent wage). Yup . . . good luck McCain, the game ain't over till its over.
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as long as he never, ever, ever discusses an issue. Foreign policy? Education reform? Balancing the budget? No . . . better stay focused on remind everyone that Obama's elitist, weak, and black. Good old fashioned Ad Nausem logical fallacies. . . . repeat it again and again, until everyone just accepts it as fact. Fox News, and the Bush admin, have been doing it for years . . . don't forget that the liberal media is biased, and that bias now extends throughout all accepted history, including FDR, Hitler, WWII, forgeign policy int he 70s and 80s, and just about everythign else. It's an important point, and McCain better not forget it if he wants to stay competitive.
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cater to the religious nuts.
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It's nice to, for the first time in my life, actually have to make a hard decision over who's the BEST candidate, rather than every other election in which I had to pick who was the lesser of two evils.
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It will be a nice change of pace to despise a President I DIDN'T vote for.
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...from a Rowan Atkinson sketch. Almost identical premise: headmaster calling names in a school. I'm a SNL apologist, but... wow.
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Myers kind of freak out a little like he thought McCain was going to shake his hand or acknowledge him before he walked off? Maybe I imagined it.But man, do I ever hope that that was THE LAST Poehler/Myers Weekend Update. Get rid of them or just give it to anyone else but Keenan.And for all her Hillary supporting, does anyone else get that Poehler just hopes she wins because it's 8 years of job security for her.
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Check out the Atkinson version on UTube: http://tinyurl.com/2yqn6g. Same premise, funnier jokes. "Herpes. Still with us, I see."
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If you don't want a Republican elected, shouldn't you then vote Democrat (holding your nose if you think that's necessary). Or at least vote for the other elections (Senate/Congress/etc) if you can't stomach any of the Presidential Candidates?
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The problem even if you think McCain is 'more democrat' than the Democrat candidates is that unfortunately he comes with a whole bunch of other Republicans as his cabinet. Given that their choices have been so dreadful for the best part so far, I shudder to think as to what's left in the talent pool.
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Time for Lorne Michaels to step down. It is time for new blood at SNL. That show is rotten at the head.
You get a young and talented producer in their and let him hire his own writing staff and I think this show can be funny again. They have some talent on the acting side, but the writing is still attrocious. Not as bad as the Jimmy Fallon/Horatio Sanz years, but still pretty bad. -
May 18, 2008 10:29:28 AM CDT
The season's over and Satan fulfilled his part of the bargain
by mr incredible
I'm glad I missed SNL last night, and pretty much the whole season. I second it: Lorne Michaels needs to get the pink slip.
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I'm not as hard to please as some of you guys, but Christ, other than the A-holes I don't think I laughed out loud once the entire show, with only a few giggles at update ("he envisions a world where everyone can kill themselves like this.")
As for Funhouse, good riddance. That means we only got 2 guaranteed laugh free segments all season instead of 7 or 8.
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all stereotypes spot on, even the crazy random regis commercial. being stoned helped too lol.
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but I think the main reason we haven't had any t.v. funhouse is because they're all written by Robert Smigel. He just finished post production on Don't Mess with the Zohan, so that probably took him a while.
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Funny how many little douches who don't actually vote cause well you know Playstation N shit. Parrot the Daily Koz. I actually like both McCain and Obama. Though I think I will vte for McCain because Obama is a bit too socialist for my likeing and unlike many of you I have a job that isn't at a retail electronics chain, make quite a bit of money and don't want to give even more of it to the government to be pissed away. You don't have to like his politics but the guy maybe the most heroic politician we have had since JFK. I love the net as well but don't get your history or news from it because both sides are tainting it. It's all about power and moving chesspieces. Both parties see us ass the chesspieces and this idea. See with your own eyes, the war, taxes, greentech, oil, all of it. And Jamming Gaydar was the funniest line of the night.
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Mccain is Bush's bitch. Those who have failed to learn the lessons of the last two failed terms are doomed to repeat them, unless smarter minds prevail.
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"It's all about power and moving chesspieces. Both parties see us as the chesspieces..." And after the past 8 years, how the Republicans handled power, and how they used us as "pieces", you want to enable at least another 4 years of that? Sigh. I'd certainly consider McCain more of a hero if he didn't vote against the CIA torture ban recently.
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WOW, To call Mccain Bush's Bitch shows an incredible level of ignorance even for this talkback. Do you keep up with polotics at all? Bush and Mccain are rivals going way back, they had an incredibly bitter and hard fought campaign for the nomination in 2000 rivaling this years Obama hilary bout. They have also frequently clashed over policy while Bush has been president. In fact due to Mccains frequent lack of towing the party line it has been often rumored he was switching parties. It is also a concern of the Mccain campaign that they will not get enough hard core republicans votes due to his more center of the road views.
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Bag him a gig as a regular on SNL; he'd be funnier than 85% of the cast. When a self-deprecating Cain talked about "old", I thought the same description applied to Lorne Michaels. And, please, why why WHY is Amy P in every sketch? She was okay as last week's Hillary Cinton (closet racist/douchebag, along with her husband) but, Jesus, the show is her valentine.
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when all the 'liberal hippie nut jobs' were telling us that both global warming and fuel crisis were both looming on the horizon and we needed to start planning for it and making very minor changes in our lifestyles and looking into alternative fuel technologies? and every last one of you goddamned motherfuckers put your fingers in your ears and said 'nope, nope, nope'? (and I can't speak for other liberals, but to me the strangest thing was how you actually seemed to get personally offended and defensive by even the suggestion that these problems either existed or would exist very near in future). You faggots actually *politicized* issues that we were genuinely concerned about and bucked against them simply out of spite for the other side. And now, here they both are, global warming and energy crisis. And John fucking McCain giving speeches about how dedicated he is to both issues. What utter bullshit. My point is, you guys are obviously counter-productive as a party in general. You inexplicably buck against ideas and proposals that are beneficial to the US and the human race in general simply because your 'enemy' the liberals proposed it and not admitting that side can be right about anything is more important to you than the welfare of your country. I think if I were you guys, I'd take a long hard look at just how much you were wrong about the biggest issues facing us this decade, Iraq, global warming, and the upcoming need for alternative fuels solutions, and how we were *right* about all these things to the point that most republicans are now coming around to our position, and give us the benefit of the doubt for a while, before you backwards nutjobs completely ruin this country beyond the point of repair.
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Here's a really straight forward analogy. There's a dam right by our town and if it ever broke, we'd all drown. One day I see a weird looking spot on the side of the dam, and I propose we re-inforce it, just on the offchance it really is a defect. I mean, it's just a little bit of work, and there's no reason NOT to do it right? Because if I'm right, we've still re-inforced the dam, right? That's still good...in terms of positive and negatives of what I'm proposing, the negative being it was unnecessary and the dam was fine...we've STILL MADE IT STRONGER. There's no logical reason to not make our dam a little bit stronger if we can, if it spares us grief down the rode. And if I'm right, it is weak, and we don't fix it, we all drown next time there's a big storm surge. So if whether my theory is right or wrong, if we act on it we benefit in the long run. And if we don't act on it, and I was right, we die.
Now the worst part, is not only are you refusing to believe it's even possible the dam could break, you for some crazy reason actively prevent me from trying to get it fixed up. Like, you're going to dramatic lengths to prevent any action that would reinforce that dam. It's crazy. It's absolutely demented. if you don't believe there's a problem, then fine. Don't try to help, watch tv. But don't you realize how absolutely insane it is to try to stop the people who believe there is a problem from taking steps to fix it? Out of what...spite? Because you hate the guy who is trying to fix it, and you don't *want* him to be right? -
No, we're not. So why would anyone vote for four more years of BushCo?
On an entirely unrelated note... shouldn't we be seeing some pics from the Trek movie at this point?
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I remember the race in 2000 (Death Race 2000), where Bush attacked McCain in a vicious manner which the Democrats never would. He even put out ads implying that Mccain was mentally unstable because of the years he spent in a prison war camp, and was thereby unfit to be a leader. So the Republicans now, who get mad at people for criticizing Mccain, did you get mad at Bush too back then? If not, then its just hypocrisy. The bizarre thing was, Mccain didn't get mad either, and he followed the party line and supported most of Bush's failed policies and political stunts to follow. Even as recently as this Friday where Bush called people who want to use diplomacy with our enemies equivalent to appeasers like Chamberlain who appeased Hitler. Mccain followed with a speech where he agreed with Bush's moronic statements and went as far as to name Obama. Anyone who knows anything knows that diplomacy and appeasement are not the same things. Chamberlain allowed Hitler to take territory in Austria and Czechoslovakia hoping that it would satisfy him and prevent full-scale war - that is appeasement. It is not the same as speaking to your enemies. Those are just a few reasons why Mccain is Bush's bitch, but sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words: http://tinyurl.com/6zv629
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Funny how your analogy fits perfectly with Clinton doing almost nothing about the terrorist problem before it got out of control. In the 90's there was this guy named osama Bin Laden who blew up our embassy in africa, blew a hole in the cole, attacked us in somalia (aka black hawk down) & finally attempted to bring down the world trade center but only killed about 10 people and turned the lower levels (parking garage) into a massive crater causing millions perhaps billions in damage. hundreds would have been killed had it not occured so early in the morning. For some reason very little was done about all this. So when Clinton had a chance to put a finger in the dam why did'nt he? Of course this was left to be cleaned up by the next president. I think he did nothing because he knew that it would be unpopular and would tarnish his legacy. Bubbah has gotten very angry when this has been brought up to him over the past few years. I guess the truth hurts.
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Was i mad at bush back then over his campaign? Nope. Am I mad at anyone now over their campaign? Nope. It is dirty politics, it wins elections and anyone that wants to win does it. I am sure bush and his people were smart enough not to have his name attached to any ad that distasteful though. Usually it is an organization supporting the candidate but not directly affiliated to them that slings the really nasty mud. that way they can easily come out against the ad if theres a public backlash.
And you give one wafer thin example as to why they are in bed together? Geez even you can surely do better than that. The guys do not like each other, its a fact. just because they agree once in a while means nothing. -
Obviously if Mccain wants to win, his strategy will be to try to prove he is different from Bush and does not support the same policies. But he supports a failed war, tax cuts for corporations and oil companies, has no universal health care plan, and believes in the same hard-headed foreign policy as Bush as evident by his comments on Friday, and numerous speeches and comments prior. And the more he tries to shift to the left to prove he's different from Bush, the more wishy-washy he proves to be as he keeps flip-flopping. One strategy would be to adopt all identical policies as Obama, and then just put out a campaign that says "We're identical on the issues so vote for the white guy". In America, given the reality of the views in this country, that just might work. But he would have trouble still calling himself a Republican.
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Why on earth would Mccain copy Obama? That guy wants to cut and run from Iraq asap. That will just leave the whole region an unstable mess with Al-Qaeda running iraq just like they ran afghanistan. With a new safe haven to operate in and a lot of free time, what do you think Al-Qaeda will do? take up farming? Even Hillary knows better than to let this happen. yeah lets get Obama in there so we can take the pressure of Al-Qaeda and they can get back to the buiness of blowing shit up all over earth. Maybe next time they will get a hold of a nuke and really have some fun.
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SNL will have three half hour episodes of Update in prime time during the Thursday night comedy block starting in mid-October and for the three weeks leading up to the United States Presidential election in November. Those should be amusing because politics and politicians always make for a ripe target for satire.I call Obama-Edwards vs. McCain-Rice with the feminist vote tipping it to the GOP on the assumption that McCain can't possible live eight more years.And Clinton in 2012.
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If anyone has seen him on the Daily Show he can be as funny as Stewart. And Napoleon, if you think that Rice wants to be VP. you're nuts. Her personal life will be under a microscope and she doesn't want anyone finding out those things about her
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...shows that his time in a prison war camp taught him to submit and give up his dignity and principles in order to survive, and he does the same thing politically today as he weathers the tactics of his own party. Just as he supported Bushes veto on a ban on CIA torture, even though Mccain (a torture victim) claimed to be against torture. Mccain is clearly a man with a broken spirit. Do war veterans deserve to be honoured? Sure. Give them benefits, respect, and remember them on Memorial day or whenever you feel like honouring them. But does that mean shell-shocked war veterans deserve to take the highest seat in office? Not really. The two job descriptions aren't equivalent.
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The two dems have no chance against him. American whites and many hispanics will not vote for a black man. I think there is even less of a chance that Americans will vote for a woman. So, McCain has this in the bag.
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Obama would never Y. Of course, Clinton's known for supporting Z, which is funny considering her stance on Insert National Concern Here.
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http://tinyurl.com/639zy3
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The reason it's worth pointing out that McCain went on a talk show during the writer's strike is because it was flagrant thumbing of his nose at a union. Even if he's not a member OF that union, it's still worth noting that he went AGAINST that union. It's a little thing we call politics.
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Somewhere between then and now he lost his fucking mind! Obama in 08.
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they shoulda had him be the musical guest to do his rendition of bomb iran...shoulda had huckabee there to redo his joke about the nra pointing guns at obama....how about putting rush on the show so that he can tell the world how he destroyed a 10 year old paper about the depression....written by a 10th grader...ya, the wingnuts sure are funny people
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they shoulda had him be the musical guest to do his rendition of bomb iran...shoulda had huckabee there to redo his joke about the nra pointing guns at obama....how about putting rush on the show so that he can tell the world how he destroyed a 10 year old paper about the depression....written by a 10th grader...ya, the wingnuts sure are funny people
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Watching. Really good episode, minus the fact that the audience was laughing so god damn much and loud I missed half of the jokes, especially the office were it was prerecorded and couldn't pause while the audience shut up. Anyone else have that problem? May be my system?
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May 19, 2008 7:37:26 AM CDT
Re: "American whites and many hispanics will not vote for a blac
by stalkeye
If true, then it shows how far this country has "progressed".Many Hispanics are not even in power when compared to Blacks and those same whites who wouldn't support the idea of a Black Prez, definatley would far less likely vote a Hispanic in Office.There's your reality check Razorback. XD
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That was Farah Aidid.
And it was Bush Sr. who intervened in Somalia.
YOU.
Are a fucking IDIOT. -
Deal ....
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of Hillary Clinton that McCain would have thought twice before two two separate bits on the show AND hanging out to wave it out.
Still, I say let McBush have his fun. He's going to get his hat handed to him in November. -
doing two separate bits
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It's time for Hillary Clinton to take the high road and bow out of the election and let Obama focus on November. Hillary supporters will have no choice but to hold their collective noses and vote Obama if they have any shed of decency.
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I am a fucking idiot? Wow you got the nerve to say that and you don't even know who was president during the Black Hawk down Incident. Do you have google? 30 seconds of research would have saved you from looking like such a tool. Also, Bin Laden has been linked to this incident by numerous reports, I saw a documentary that said it was believed that Al Qeada trained troops in Mogadishu to bring down US helicopters by firing Grenades at the rear propellers. Al Qeada has been linked to the incident in many ways just do a little research before you mouth off. Simply type things like Bin Laden Farah Aidid into google and see what you get.
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a year ago I would have completely agreed with you. Now that opinion seems naive.
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melting turtle that he is
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May 22, 2008 9:19:25 AM CDT
Political discussion in AICN talkbacks = Nipples on Batman
by blanket-man
Enough already! Show of hands: How many of you have had your point of view/political leanings changed because of something you read here? Let's get back to important stuff, like damning Michael Bay!
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